> Markdown version of [/events/world-congress-2026-europe/sessions/948-fireside-chat-with](https://www.wearedevelopers.com/events/world-congress-2026-europe/sessions/948-fireside-chat-with). Every page supports `.md` or `Accept: text/markdown`. Links point to the HTML versions so they work for humans too. Agent guide: [/agents.md](https://www.wearedevelopers.com/agents.md). --- # Fireside Chat with Julia Kordick, Sr. Software Global Black Belt - **Date:** Wednesday, Jul 8, 2026 - **Time:** 12:30–13:00 (30 min) - **Room:** Airstream 2 - **Event:** World Congress 2026 Europe ## Speakers ### [Christian Heilmann](https://www.wearedevelopers.com/@christian-heilmann) Open first, great comes later ### [Julia Kordick](https://www.wearedevelopers.com/@julia-kordick) Senior Software Global Black Belt at Microsoft ## Related talks at this congress - [Teaching GitHub Copilot COBOL: A Practical Guide to Agentic AI Legacy Modernization](https://www.wearedevelopers.com/events/world-congress-2026-europe/sessions/1242-teaching-github) — Julia Kordick, Laetitia Maar - [The best SDLC is the one you build yourself: Why orchestration changes everything](https://www.wearedevelopers.com/events/world-congress-2026-europe/sessions/1064-the-best-sdlc-is-the) — Jovana Dunisijevic - [Checkmate: 5 Real Incidents That Can End a Software Company](https://www.wearedevelopers.com/events/world-congress-2026-europe/sessions/1442-checkmate-5-real) — Jasmin Azemović - [Fireside Chat - Why the future is built on “AND”](https://www.wearedevelopers.com/events/world-congress-2026-europe/sessions/1040-fireside-chat-why) — Jürgen Hartwig, Rudi Bauer