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389
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<00:17:11.265>And <00:17:11.392>to <00:17:11.519>double <00:17:11.646>down <00:17:11.774>on <00:17:11.901>this <00:17:12.028>one, <00:17:12.155>we <00:17:12.283>also <00:17:12.410>see <00:17:12.537>the <00:17:12.665>surge

390
00:17:13.885 --> 00:17:17.165
<00:17:13.885>of <00:17:14.085>small <00:17:14.285>language <00:17:14.484>models, <00:17:14.685>which <00:17:14.885>can <00:17:15.085>work <00:17:15.285>offline,

391
00:17:17.165 --> 00:17:18.365
<00:17:17.165>which <00:17:17.435>can <00:17:17.704>work <00:17:17.974>on <00:17:18.244>mobile.

392
00:17:18.865 --> 00:17:23.605
<00:17:18.865>And <00:17:18.992>I <00:17:19.119>think <00:17:19.246>that <00:17:19.374>evolution <00:17:19.501>of <00:17:19.628>what <00:17:19.755>we <00:17:19.883>can <00:17:20.010>do <00:17:20.137>on <00:17:20.265>ai,

393
00:17:24.235 --> 00:17:25.965
<00:17:24.234>it's <00:17:24.584>just <00:17:24.935>so <00:17:25.284>incredibly <00:17:25.635>fast.

394
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<00:17:25.964>There's <00:17:26.396>an <00:17:26.829>exponential <00:17:27.261>curve

395
00:17:27.405 --> 00:17:29.885
<00:17:27.405>of <00:17:27.605>what's <00:17:27.805>happening <00:17:28.004>right <00:17:28.204>now <00:17:28.405>in <00:17:28.605>the <00:17:28.805>industry

396
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<00:17:30.115>because <00:17:30.538>of <00:17:30.961>the <00:17:31.384>situation.

397
00:17:31.545 --> 00:17:33.245
<00:17:31.545>And <00:17:31.778>we <00:17:32.011>also <00:17:32.245>talk <00:17:32.478>about <00:17:32.711>data <00:17:32.945>lakes.

398
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<00:17:33.305>So <00:17:33.505>if <00:17:33.705>you, <00:17:33.905>if <00:17:34.105>you <00:17:34.305>go <00:17:34.505>from, <00:17:34.705>uh,

399
00:17:35.505 --> 00:17:36.845
<00:17:35.505>if <00:17:35.706>you <00:17:35.907>go <00:17:36.108>away <00:17:36.309>from <00:17:36.510>a <00:17:36.711>consumer,

400
00:17:37.025 --> 00:17:39.445
<00:17:37.025>and <00:17:37.180>if <00:17:37.336>you <00:17:37.491>go <00:17:37.647>into <00:17:37.802>enterprise <00:17:37.958>space, <00:17:38.113>then <00:17:38.269>we <00:17:38.425>see

401
00:17:39.445 --> 00:17:42.005
<00:17:39.445>that <00:17:39.645>enterprise <00:17:39.845>actually <00:17:40.044>develop <00:17:40.245>their <00:17:40.445>own <00:17:40.645>data <00:17:40.845>lake.

402
00:17:42.005 --> 00:17:43.645
<00:17:42.005>They're <00:17:42.238>very <00:17:42.471>protective <00:17:42.705>of <00:17:42.938>their <00:17:43.171>own <00:17:43.405>data.

403
00:17:43.675 --> 00:17:45.525
<00:17:43.675>They <00:17:43.875>ensure <00:17:44.075>that <00:17:44.274>they <00:17:44.475>have <00:17:44.675>layers <00:17:44.875>of <00:17:45.075>security.

404
00:17:45.545 --> 00:17:48.165
<00:17:45.545>We <00:17:45.685>already <00:17:45.825>talked <00:17:45.965>about <00:17:46.105>that. <00:17:46.245>And <00:17:46.385>then <00:17:46.525>they <00:17:46.665>take <00:17:46.805>the <00:17:46.945>either

405
00:17:48.165 --> 00:17:50.445
<00:17:48.165>large <00:17:48.398>language <00:17:48.631>model <00:17:48.865>or <00:17:49.098>small <00:17:49.331>language <00:17:49.565>models

406
00:17:50.745 --> 00:17:53.125
<00:17:50.745>and <00:17:50.978>run <00:17:51.211>very <00:17:51.445>deductive <00:17:51.678>on <00:17:51.911>the <00:17:52.145>data

407
00:17:53.475 --> 00:17:57.925
<00:17:53.475>that <00:17:53.708>surface <00:17:53.941>they <00:17:54.175>business <00:17:54.408>needs <00:17:54.641>without <00:17:54.875>exposing,

408
00:17:58.545 --> 00:18:00.045
<00:17:58.545>you <00:17:58.770>know, <00:17:58.995>the <00:17:59.220>data <00:17:59.445>of <00:17:59.670>the <00:17:59.895>users.

409
00:18:00.595 --> 00:18:02.045
<00:18:00.595>Okay. <00:18:01.030>Yeah. <00:18:01.465>And <00:18:01.900>just

410
00:18:02.045 --> 00:18:04.005
<00:18:02.045>to <00:18:02.200>add <00:18:02.356>the <00:18:02.511>data <00:18:02.667>point <00:18:02.822>in <00:18:02.978>hanging <00:18:03.133>phase, <00:18:03.289>right <00:18:03.445>now,

411
00:18:04.005 --> 00:18:07.005
<00:18:04.005>you <00:18:04.355>have <00:18:04.705>700,000 <00:18:05.055>different <00:18:05.405>models.

412
00:18:07.865 --> 00:18:09.485
<00:18:07.865>So <00:18:08.145>what <00:18:08.425>we <00:18:08.705>see <00:18:08.985>is <00:18:09.265>more

413
00:18:09.485 --> 00:18:12.885
<00:18:09.485>and <00:18:09.625>more <00:18:09.764>you <00:18:09.905>take <00:18:10.044>the <00:18:10.185>model, <00:18:10.324>you <00:18:10.465>fine <00:18:10.604>tune <00:18:10.745>the <00:18:10.885>model,

414
00:18:12.985 --> 00:18:14.205
<00:18:12.985>or <00:18:13.351>you <00:18:13.716>through <00:18:14.082>rack,

415
00:18:14.265 --> 00:18:16.125
<00:18:14.265>you <00:18:14.465>change <00:18:14.665>the <00:18:14.865>model, <00:18:15.065>you <00:18:15.265>keep <00:18:15.465>it <00:18:15.665>locally.

416
00:18:16.385 --> 00:18:17.405
<00:18:16.385>So <00:18:16.614>you <00:18:16.844>keep <00:18:17.073>the <00:18:17.303>cost

417
00:18:17.865 --> 00:18:19.805
<00:18:17.865>and <00:18:18.098>you <00:18:18.331>create <00:18:18.565>your <00:18:18.798>own <00:18:19.031>personalized <00:18:19.265>models.

418
00:18:19.945 --> 00:18:23.725
<00:18:19.945>So <00:18:20.120>what <00:18:20.294>we <00:18:20.470>see <00:18:20.645>in <00:18:20.820>the <00:18:20.995>future <00:18:21.169>is <00:18:21.345>millions

419
00:18:24.145 --> 00:18:28.365
<00:18:24.145>of <00:18:24.345>large <00:18:24.545>language <00:18:24.745>models <00:18:24.945>adaptive <00:18:25.145>to <00:18:25.345>particular <00:18:25.545>needs.

420
00:18:28.585 --> 00:18:31.085
<00:18:28.585>Mm-Hmm. <00:18:28.865>Rather <00:18:29.145>than, <00:18:29.425>yes, <00:18:29.705>it's <00:18:29.985>true

421
00:18:31.085 --> 00:18:33.365
<00:18:31.085>that <00:18:31.260>there <00:18:31.435>will <00:18:31.610>still <00:18:31.785>be <00:18:31.960>some <00:18:32.135>very <00:18:32.310>big <00:18:32.485>models

422
00:18:33.545 --> 00:18:35.805
<00:18:33.545>and <00:18:33.700>that <00:18:33.856>is <00:18:34.011>going <00:18:34.167>to <00:18:34.322>continue, <00:18:34.478>but <00:18:34.633>we <00:18:34.789>see <00:18:34.945>more

423
00:18:35.805 --> 00:18:38.725
<00:18:35.805>and <00:18:36.005>more <00:18:36.205>companies <00:18:36.405>creating <00:18:36.605>their <00:18:36.805>own <00:18:37.005>private <00:18:37.205>AI

424
00:18:39.265 --> 00:18:40.365
<00:18:39.265>and <00:18:39.430>how <00:18:39.595>they <00:18:39.760>are <00:18:39.925>going <00:18:40.090>to <00:18:40.255>do

425
00:18:40.365 --> 00:18:42.045
<00:18:40.365>that, <00:18:40.598>probably <00:18:40.831>that <00:18:41.065>is <00:18:41.298>the <00:18:41.531>trend. <00:18:41.765>Okay.

426
00:18:42.045 --> 00:18:43.405
<00:18:42.045>But <00:18:42.219>that's <00:18:42.394>kind <00:18:42.569>of <00:18:42.744>the <00:18:42.919>BIS <00:18:43.094>model <00:18:43.269>from

427
00:18:43.405 --> 00:18:44.485
<00:18:43.405>MIS <00:18:43.648>trial <00:18:43.890>as <00:18:44.134>well, <00:18:44.377>right?

428
00:18:44.485 --> 00:18:47.365
<00:18:44.485>They <00:18:44.718>combining <00:18:44.951>open <00:18:45.185>source <00:18:45.418>AI <00:18:45.651>models, <00:18:45.885>uh,

429
00:18:47.465 --> 00:18:50.525
<00:18:47.465>and <00:18:47.665>only <00:18:47.865>using <00:18:48.064>them <00:18:48.264>while <00:18:48.465>orchestrating <00:18:48.665>them <00:18:48.865>somehow.

430
00:18:50.635 --> 00:18:52.885
<00:18:50.635>Yeah. <00:18:50.775>Okay. <00:18:50.915>So <00:18:51.055>how, <00:18:51.195>how <00:18:51.335>does <00:18:51.475>it <00:18:51.615>open <00:18:51.754>source <00:18:51.895>come <00:18:52.035>in?

431
00:18:52.885 --> 00:18:55.525
<00:18:52.885>Because <00:18:53.025>of <00:18:53.165>course <00:18:53.305>there's <00:18:53.445>a <00:18:53.585>fear <00:18:53.725>of <00:18:53.865>of <00:18:54.004>of <00:18:54.145>open <00:18:54.285>AI

432
00:18:55.525 --> 00:18:58.005
<00:18:55.525>or <00:18:55.725>others <00:18:55.925>dominating <00:18:56.125>field, <00:18:56.325>you <00:18:56.525>don't <00:18:56.725>see <00:18:56.925>that?

433
00:18:58.275 --> 00:18:59.725
<00:18:58.275>Well, <00:18:58.536>I <00:18:58.797>mean, <00:18:59.058>it's <00:18:59.319>not <00:18:59.580>fear.

434
00:19:00.035 --> 00:19:03.685
<00:19:00.035>What <00:19:00.190>we <00:19:00.346>see <00:19:00.501>is <00:19:00.657>that <00:19:00.812>in <00:19:00.968>the <00:19:01.123>large <00:19:01.279>language <00:19:01.435>models,

435
00:19:03.755 --> 00:19:06.685
<00:19:03.755>what <00:19:03.895>you <00:19:04.035>have <00:19:04.175>is <00:19:04.315>always <00:19:04.455>the <00:19:04.595>open <00:19:04.735>options <00:19:04.875>are <00:19:05.015>the <00:19:05.155>close

436
00:19:06.685 --> 00:19:08.445
<00:19:06.685>options, <00:19:07.034>but <00:19:07.385>exactly <00:19:07.735>the <00:19:08.085>same

437
00:19:08.445 --> 00:19:10.005
<00:19:08.445>as <00:19:08.645>in <00:19:08.845>the <00:19:09.044>rest <00:19:09.245>in <00:19:09.445>the <00:19:09.645>software <00:19:09.845>industry,

438
00:19:10.105 --> 00:19:12.165
<00:19:10.105>you <00:19:10.455>have <00:19:10.805>the <00:19:11.155>open <00:19:11.505>possibilities,

439
00:19:12.265 --> 00:19:14.165
<00:19:12.265>and <00:19:12.498>then <00:19:12.731>you <00:19:12.965>have <00:19:13.198>the <00:19:13.431>close <00:19:13.665>opportunities.

440
00:19:14.525 --> 00:19:16.765
<00:19:14.525>I <00:19:14.725>mean, <00:19:14.925>we <00:19:15.125>consider <00:19:15.325>that <00:19:15.525>they <00:19:15.725>will <00:19:15.925>coexist.

441
00:19:17.315 --> 00:19:19.925
<00:19:17.315>What <00:19:17.455>we <00:19:17.595>put <00:19:17.735>the <00:19:17.875>focus <00:19:18.015>on <00:19:18.155>is <00:19:18.295>mainly <00:19:18.435>on <00:19:18.575>the <00:19:18.715>innovation

442
00:19:19.925 --> 00:19:21.645
<00:19:19.925>that <00:19:20.158>the <00:19:20.391>open <00:19:20.625>source <00:19:20.858>is <00:19:21.091>bring <00:19:21.325>in

443
00:19:21.705 --> 00:19:23.205
<00:19:21.705>and <00:19:22.042>has <00:19:22.379>been <00:19:22.717>bringing <00:19:23.054>basically

444
00:19:23.205 --> 00:19:25.445
<00:19:23.205>because <00:19:23.438>everyone <00:19:23.671>can <00:19:23.905>do <00:19:24.138>whatever <00:19:24.371>they <00:19:24.605>consider

445
00:19:25.445 --> 00:19:27.925
<00:19:25.445>that <00:19:25.561>they <00:19:25.678>want <00:19:25.794>to <00:19:25.911>do, <00:19:26.028>and <00:19:26.145>then <00:19:26.261>the <00:19:26.378>community <00:19:26.495>is <00:19:26.611>going <00:19:26.728>to <00:19:26.845>say

446
00:19:27.955 --> 00:19:29.645
<00:19:27.955>that <00:19:28.155>is <00:19:28.355>a <00:19:28.554>good <00:19:28.754>feature <00:19:28.955>or <00:19:29.155>is <00:19:29.355>not.

447
00:19:29.785 --> 00:19:32.165
<00:19:29.785>Mm-Hmm. <00:19:29.985>I <00:19:30.185>think <00:19:30.385>that <00:19:30.585>they <00:19:30.785>have <00:19:30.985>been <00:19:31.185>coexisting

448
00:19:32.165 --> 00:19:33.205
<00:19:32.165>during <00:19:32.399>the <00:19:32.633>last <00:19:32.867>20 <00:19:33.101>years,

449
00:19:33.265 --> 00:19:34.885
<00:19:33.265>and <00:19:33.420>I <00:19:33.576>don't <00:19:33.731>think <00:19:33.887>that <00:19:34.042>that <00:19:34.198>is <00:19:34.353>going <00:19:34.509>to <00:19:34.665>change.

450
00:19:35.265 --> 00:19:38.445
<00:19:35.265>So <00:19:35.392>you <00:19:35.519>will <00:19:35.646>still <00:19:35.774>have <00:19:35.901>the <00:19:36.028>open <00:19:36.155>ai, <00:19:36.283>the <00:19:36.410>atrophic, <00:19:36.537>et <00:19:36.665>cetera,

451
00:19:38.445 --> 00:19:40.965
<00:19:38.445>in <00:19:38.600>the <00:19:38.756>closed <00:19:38.911>model, <00:19:39.067>and <00:19:39.222>you <00:19:39.378>will <00:19:39.533>have <00:19:39.689>the <00:19:39.845>rals

452
00:19:41.425 --> 00:19:43.685
<00:19:41.425>or <00:19:41.625>the <00:19:41.825>granite <00:19:42.024>from <00:19:42.225>IBM <00:19:42.425>on <00:19:42.625>the <00:19:42.825>open.

453
00:19:43.905 --> 00:19:48.045
<00:19:43.905>And <00:19:44.021>I <00:19:44.138>think <00:19:44.254>that <00:19:44.371>they <00:19:44.488>coexist <00:19:44.605>just <00:19:44.721>to <00:19:44.838>close <00:19:44.955>on <00:19:45.071>that, <00:19:45.188>on <00:19:45.305>IBM,

454
00:19:48.045 --> 00:19:49.805
<00:19:48.045>they <00:19:48.220>are <00:19:48.395>putting <00:19:48.570>a <00:19:48.745>lot <00:19:48.920>of <00:19:49.095>focus <00:19:49.270>on <00:19:49.445>granite.

455
00:19:50.305 --> 00:19:52.605
<00:19:50.305>So <00:19:50.460>I <00:19:50.616>think <00:19:50.771>that <00:19:50.927>one <00:19:51.082>of <00:19:51.238>the <00:19:51.393>key <00:19:51.549>elements <00:19:51.705>that,

456
00:19:52.605 --> 00:19:54.885
<00:19:52.605>the <00:19:52.745>key <00:19:52.885>question <00:19:53.025>that <00:19:53.165>is <00:19:53.305>going <00:19:53.445>to <00:19:53.585>be <00:19:53.725>is <00:19:53.865>about <00:19:54.005>transparency

457
00:19:55.235 --> 00:19:56.725
<00:19:55.235>because <00:19:55.681>of <00:19:56.129>legal <00:19:56.576>requirements

458
00:19:56.725 --> 00:20:00.205
<00:19:56.725>and <00:19:56.880>specifically <00:19:57.036>coming <00:19:57.191>from <00:19:57.347>here, <00:19:57.502>the <00:19:57.658>ua, <00:19:57.813>uh, <00:19:57.969>I <00:19:58.125>mean,

459
00:20:00.205 --> 00:20:03.605
<00:20:00.205>they <00:20:00.321>are <00:20:00.438>going <00:20:00.554>to <00:20:00.671>put <00:20:00.788>a <00:20:00.905>lot <00:20:01.021>of <00:20:01.138>focus <00:20:01.254>on <00:20:01.371>is <00:20:01.488>this <00:20:01.605>transparent?

460
00:20:03.855 --> 00:20:06.885
<00:20:03.855>Where <00:20:04.055>is <00:20:04.255>the <00:20:04.455>data <00:20:04.655>coming <00:20:04.855>from, <00:20:05.055>is <00:20:05.255>legally

461
00:20:07.405 --> 00:20:08.525
<00:20:07.405>compliant <00:20:07.741>with <00:20:08.077>the <00:20:08.413>industry?

462
00:20:09.005 --> 00:20:13.965
<00:20:09.005>I <00:20:09.112>mean, <00:20:09.220>that <00:20:09.328>is <00:20:09.435>going <00:20:09.543>to <00:20:09.651>be <00:20:09.758>one <00:20:09.866>of <00:20:09.974>the <00:20:10.081>key <00:20:10.189>elements <00:20:10.297>that <00:20:10.405>is,

463
00:20:14.305 --> 00:20:17.245
<00:20:14.305>uh, <00:20:14.460>do <00:20:14.616>you <00:20:14.771>know <00:20:14.927>where <00:20:15.082>OpenAI <00:20:15.238>is <00:20:15.393>having <00:20:15.549>the <00:20:15.705>data

464
00:20:17.425 --> 00:20:19.565
<00:20:17.425>or <00:20:17.705>where <00:20:17.985>they <00:20:18.264>have <00:20:18.544>extracted <00:20:18.825>data?

465
00:20:20.435 --> 00:20:24.085
<00:20:20.435>Okay. <00:20:20.590>Yeah. <00:20:20.746>But <00:20:20.901>still, <00:20:21.057>I <00:20:21.212>mean, <00:20:21.368>we <00:20:21.523>are <00:20:21.679>in <00:20:21.835>Germany,

466
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467
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<00:20:28.005>and, <00:20:28.145>uh, <00:20:28.285>who's, <00:20:28.425>who's <00:20:28.565>owning, <00:20:28.705>uh, <00:20:28.845>the <00:20:28.985>future <00:20:29.125>in <00:20:29.265>the <00:20:29.405>end?

468
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<00:20:31.265>Um, <00:20:31.405>all <00:20:31.545>these <00:20:31.685>runs <00:20:31.825>on <00:20:31.965>the <00:20:32.105>cloud <00:20:32.245>and, <00:20:32.385>and <00:20:32.525>cloud <00:20:32.665>providers.

469
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<00:20:34.845>I <00:20:34.972>looked <00:20:35.099>it <00:20:35.226>up, <00:20:35.354>uh, <00:20:35.481>at <00:20:35.608>the, <00:20:35.735>the <00:20:35.863>first <00:20:35.990>quarter <00:20:36.117>of <00:20:36.245>2024,

470
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471
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<00:20:40.785>So <00:20:41.065>Azure, <00:20:41.345>Google, <00:20:41.625>and <00:20:41.905>A <00:20:42.185>AWS.

472
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<00:20:43.245>So <00:20:43.594>it's <00:20:43.945>a <00:20:44.294>huge <00:20:44.645>purge,

473
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<00:20:45.005>and <00:20:45.205>the <00:20:45.405>others <00:20:45.605>are <00:20:45.805>very, <00:20:46.005>very <00:20:46.205>much <00:20:46.405>smaller.

474
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<00:20:47.665>Do <00:20:47.805>you <00:20:47.945>see <00:20:48.085>any, <00:20:48.225>any <00:20:48.365>well <00:20:48.504>monopoly <00:20:48.645>in <00:20:48.784>the <00:20:48.925>cloud <00:20:49.065>space?

475
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476
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477
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<00:20:56.585>or <00:20:56.701>is <00:20:56.818>that <00:20:56.935>Well, <00:20:57.051>a <00:20:57.168>different <00:20:57.285>to, <00:20:57.401>to <00:20:57.518>the <00:20:57.635>past <00:20:57.751>where <00:20:57.868>you <00:20:57.985>said,

478
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<00:21:00.005>well, <00:21:00.199>the <00:21:00.393>winner <00:21:00.588>takes <00:21:00.782>it <00:21:00.977>all.

479
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<00:21:01.805>I, <00:21:01.960>I <00:21:02.116>don't <00:21:02.271>think <00:21:02.427>there <00:21:02.582>is <00:21:02.738>a <00:21:02.893>such <00:21:03.049>a <00:21:03.205>thing

480
00:21:03.685 --> 00:21:04.765
<00:21:03.685>as <00:21:03.879>a <00:21:04.073>winner <00:21:04.268>takes <00:21:04.462>it <00:21:04.657>all.

481
00:21:04.765 --> 00:21:07.805
<00:21:04.765>Because <00:21:04.920>what <00:21:05.076>you <00:21:05.231>just <00:21:05.387>referred <00:21:05.542>to <00:21:05.698>is <00:21:05.853>what <00:21:06.009>we're <00:21:06.165>talking

482
00:21:07.865 --> 00:21:11.205
<00:21:07.865>as <00:21:08.040>a <00:21:08.215>physical <00:21:08.390>infrastructure <00:21:08.565>availability <00:21:08.740>at <00:21:08.915>a <00:21:09.090>large <00:21:09.265>scale.

483
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<00:21:11.705>And <00:21:11.832>at <00:21:11.959>the <00:21:12.086>cost <00:21:12.214>of, <00:21:12.341>of <00:21:12.468>this <00:21:12.595>scale <00:21:12.723>is <00:21:12.850>effectively <00:21:12.977>comes <00:21:13.105>down

484
00:21:15.065 --> 00:21:18.485
<00:21:15.065>to, <00:21:15.240>uh, <00:21:15.415>the <00:21:15.590>general <00:21:15.765>public, <00:21:15.940>the <00:21:16.115>users, <00:21:16.290>the <00:21:16.465>enterprises.

485
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<00:21:19.565>I <00:21:19.740>don't <00:21:19.915>think <00:21:20.090>there <00:21:20.265>is <00:21:20.440>a <00:21:20.615>monopoly <00:21:20.790>on <00:21:20.965>AI

486
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<00:21:21.165>because <00:21:21.398>every <00:21:21.631>single <00:21:21.865>person <00:21:22.098>of <00:21:22.331>15,000 <00:21:22.565>plus

487
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<00:21:24.665>who <00:21:24.840>walking <00:21:25.014>these <00:21:25.190>holes <00:21:25.365>are <00:21:25.540>the <00:21:25.715>people <00:21:25.889>who <00:21:26.065>develop

488
00:21:29.105 --> 00:21:30.765
<00:21:29.105>the <00:21:29.385>real <00:21:29.665>cases <00:21:29.945>for <00:21:30.225>the <00:21:30.505>future.

489
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<00:21:31.145>And <00:21:31.320>frankly, <00:21:31.495>most <00:21:31.670>of <00:21:31.845>the <00:21:32.020>companies <00:21:32.195>aren't <00:21:32.370>work <00:21:32.545>well,

490
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<00:21:34.555>will <00:21:34.905>have <00:21:35.255>double <00:21:35.605>crawl <00:21:35.955>strategy.

491
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<00:21:37.075>Some <00:21:37.275>of <00:21:37.475>them <00:21:37.675>will <00:21:37.875>have <00:21:38.075>single <00:21:38.275>cloud <00:21:38.475>strategy.

492
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<00:21:39.145>And <00:21:39.463>with <00:21:39.781>Kubernetes <00:21:40.099>and,

493
00:21:40.385 --> 00:21:43.725
<00:21:40.385>and <00:21:40.560>Dockers, <00:21:40.735>you, <00:21:40.910>you <00:21:41.085>can, <00:21:41.260>you <00:21:41.435>are <00:21:41.610>always <00:21:41.785>portable.

494
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<00:21:43.745>So <00:21:43.919>I <00:21:44.094>don't <00:21:44.270>think <00:21:44.445>there <00:21:44.620>is <00:21:44.794>such <00:21:44.969>a <00:21:45.145>thing

495
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<00:21:45.405>as <00:21:45.605>a <00:21:45.805>monopoly <00:21:46.004>in <00:21:46.205>terms <00:21:46.405>of <00:21:46.605>the <00:21:46.805>potential

496
00:21:48.465 --> 00:21:49.565
<00:21:48.465>and <00:21:48.712>the <00:21:48.960>future <00:21:49.207>of <00:21:49.455>ai.

497
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<00:21:49.765>I <00:21:49.998>think <00:21:50.231>there <00:21:50.465>is <00:21:50.698>a <00:21:50.931>healthy <00:21:51.165>competition,

498
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<00:21:52.945>and <00:21:53.120>let's <00:21:53.294>make <00:21:53.470>sure <00:21:53.645>we <00:21:53.820>stay <00:21:53.995>in <00:21:54.169>healthy <00:21:54.345>competition

499
00:21:55.405 --> 00:21:58.165
<00:21:55.405>and <00:21:55.545>we <00:21:55.685>work <00:21:55.825>on <00:21:55.965>transparency, <00:21:56.105>and <00:21:56.245>we <00:21:56.385>work <00:21:56.524>on <00:21:56.665>responsible <00:21:56.805>ai.

500
00:21:58.525 --> 00:22:02.965
<00:21:58.525>I <00:21:58.680>was <00:21:58.836>actually <00:21:58.991>deeply <00:21:59.147>impressed, <00:21:59.302>uh, <00:21:59.458>when <00:21:59.613>we <00:21:59.769>announced, <00:21:59.925>uh,

501
00:22:02.965 --> 00:22:06.245
<00:22:02.965>3.2 <00:22:03.314>billion <00:22:03.665>investment <00:22:04.014>in <00:22:04.365>Germany.

502
00:22:06.425 --> 00:22:09.045
<00:22:06.425>We <00:22:06.658>had <00:22:06.891>Brad <00:22:07.125>Smith <00:22:07.358>and <00:22:07.591>on <00:22:07.825>stage,

503
00:22:09.625 --> 00:22:11.005
<00:22:09.625>and <00:22:09.935>I <00:22:10.246>remember <00:22:10.556>Brad <00:22:10.867>said,

504
00:22:11.145 --> 00:22:13.645
<00:22:11.145>we <00:22:11.345>just <00:22:11.545>signed <00:22:11.745>up <00:22:11.945>on <00:22:12.145>a <00:22:12.345>re <00:22:12.545>responsible

505
00:22:13.745 --> 00:22:17.765
<00:22:13.745>and, <00:22:13.919>um, <00:22:14.094>responsible <00:22:14.270>AI <00:22:14.445>act <00:22:14.620>across <00:22:14.794>the <00:22:14.969>entire <00:22:15.145>industry

506
00:22:17.765 --> 00:22:20.365
<00:22:17.765>with <00:22:17.940>ral, <00:22:18.115>with <00:22:18.290>open <00:22:18.465>ai, <00:22:18.640>with <00:22:18.815>Google <00:22:18.990>was <00:22:19.165>Amazon

507
00:22:20.705 --> 00:22:22.045
<00:22:20.705>to <00:22:21.006>prevent <00:22:21.308>the <00:22:21.609>deep <00:22:21.911>fakes

508
00:22:22.065 --> 00:22:25.005
<00:22:22.065>to <00:22:22.240>have <00:22:22.415>this <00:22:22.590>responsible <00:22:22.765>AI <00:22:22.940>across <00:22:23.115>the <00:22:23.290>entire <00:22:23.465>industry.

509
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510
00:22:28.625 --> 00:22:32.405
<00:22:28.625>we <00:22:28.825>talking <00:22:29.025>a <00:22:29.225>responsibility <00:22:29.425>towards <00:22:29.625>the <00:22:29.825>human <00:22:30.025>race

511
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<00:22:32.785>to <00:22:32.985>make <00:22:33.185>sure <00:22:33.385>that <00:22:33.585>the <00:22:33.785>technology <00:22:33.985>we <00:22:34.185>develop

512
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<00:22:35.225>has <00:22:35.504>its <00:22:35.784>upsides <00:22:36.064>and <00:22:36.344>his <00:22:36.625>downsides.

513
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<00:22:37.185>And <00:22:37.325>we <00:22:37.465>work <00:22:37.605>on <00:22:37.745>this <00:22:37.885>downsides <00:22:38.024>together <00:22:38.165>to <00:22:38.304>make <00:22:38.445>it <00:22:38.585>really

514
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<00:22:40.755>safe <00:22:41.105>and <00:22:41.455>secure <00:22:41.805>for <00:22:42.155>everybody.

515
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Okay.

516
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<00:22:44.425>You <00:22:44.673>were <00:22:44.921>talking <00:22:45.170>about, <00:22:45.418>I <00:22:45.667>think

517
00:22:45.805 --> 00:22:48.285
<00:22:45.805>that <00:22:45.960>he <00:22:46.116>was <00:22:46.271>talking <00:22:46.427>when <00:22:46.582>we <00:22:46.738>were <00:22:46.893>preparing <00:22:47.049>this, <00:22:47.205>remember

518
00:22:48.285 --> 00:22:50.845
<00:22:48.285>that <00:22:48.460>he <00:22:48.635>was <00:22:48.810>talking <00:22:48.985>about <00:22:49.160>putting <00:22:49.335>layers <00:22:49.510>on <00:22:49.685>top

519
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<00:22:50.865>of <00:22:51.565>the <00:22:52.265>infrastructure?

520
00:22:53.225 --> 00:22:55.045
<00:22:53.225>Oh <00:22:53.380>yeah, <00:22:53.536>for <00:22:53.691>sure. <00:22:53.847>I <00:22:54.002>mean, <00:22:54.158>I <00:22:54.313>think <00:22:54.469>whether <00:22:54.625>it's

521
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<00:22:55.045>infrastructure, <00:22:55.511>you <00:22:55.978>know, <00:22:56.445>um,

522
00:22:57.225 --> 00:22:59.485
<00:22:57.225>or <00:22:57.425>even <00:22:57.625>like <00:22:57.824>the, <00:22:58.024>the <00:22:58.225>open <00:22:58.425>source <00:22:58.625>ecosystem

523
00:22:59.485 --> 00:23:02.445
<00:22:59.485>around <00:22:59.659>the <00:22:59.834>AI <00:23:00.010>things, <00:23:00.185>like, <00:23:00.360>it's <00:23:00.534>really <00:23:00.709>interesting <00:23:00.885>time.

524
00:23:02.585 --> 00:23:06.205
<00:23:02.585>So <00:23:02.785>take <00:23:02.985>things <00:23:03.185>like <00:23:03.385>application <00:23:03.585>hosting <00:23:03.785>and <00:23:03.985>compute.

525
00:23:06.705 --> 00:23:09.085
<00:23:06.705>Uh, <00:23:06.938>we're <00:23:07.171>in <00:23:07.405>a <00:23:07.638>really <00:23:07.871>interesting <00:23:08.105>time

526
00:23:09.175 --> 00:23:11.285
<00:23:09.175>where <00:23:09.408>there's <00:23:09.641>a <00:23:09.875>lot <00:23:10.108>more <00:23:10.341>to <00:23:10.575>play

527
00:23:11.285 --> 00:23:13.205
<00:23:11.285>with <00:23:11.425>than <00:23:11.565>if <00:23:11.705>you <00:23:11.845>would <00:23:11.985>ask <00:23:12.125>me <00:23:12.265>10 <00:23:12.405>years <00:23:12.545>ago, <00:23:12.685>like,

528
00:23:13.205 --> 00:23:16.125
<00:23:13.205>where <00:23:13.360>are <00:23:13.516>you <00:23:13.671>gonna <00:23:13.827>have <00:23:13.982>like <00:23:14.138>a <00:23:14.293>one <00:23:14.449>click <00:23:14.605>deploy

529
00:23:16.125 --> 00:23:17.245
<00:23:16.125>from <00:23:16.461>your <00:23:16.797>GitHub <00:23:17.132>repo?

530
00:23:17.245 --> 00:23:19.325
<00:23:17.245>Like <00:23:17.419>I <00:23:17.594>might've <00:23:17.770>said, <00:23:17.945>yeah, <00:23:18.120>I'll <00:23:18.294>probably <00:23:18.469>use <00:23:18.645>Heroku.

531
00:23:19.625 --> 00:23:21.325
<00:23:19.625>And <00:23:19.858>Heroku <00:23:20.091>is <00:23:20.325>still <00:23:20.558>definitely <00:23:20.791>an <00:23:21.025>option,

532
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<00:23:21.325>but <00:23:21.535>these <00:23:21.745>days, <00:23:21.955>like <00:23:22.165>I'm <00:23:22.375>playing <00:23:22.585>around

533
00:23:22.725 --> 00:23:23.765
<00:23:22.725>with <00:23:23.037>services <00:23:23.349>like <00:23:23.661>render

534
00:23:24.065 --> 00:23:27.045
<00:23:24.065>or, <00:23:24.192>um, <00:23:24.319>I <00:23:24.446>don't <00:23:24.574>know, <00:23:24.701>like <00:23:24.828>fly <00:23:24.955>io <00:23:25.083>or <00:23:25.210>something <00:23:25.337>like <00:23:25.465>that.

535
00:23:27.145 --> 00:23:30.085
<00:23:27.145>And <00:23:27.285>it's, <00:23:27.425>it's <00:23:27.565>really <00:23:27.705>fun <00:23:27.845>to <00:23:27.985>see <00:23:28.125>that <00:23:28.264>energy <00:23:28.405>in, <00:23:28.545>in

536
00:23:30.085 --> 00:23:31.445
<00:23:30.085>that <00:23:30.697>level <00:23:31.309>again.

537
00:23:31.665 --> 00:23:35.965
<00:23:31.665>Uh, <00:23:31.805>so <00:23:31.945>when <00:23:32.085>it <00:23:32.225>comes <00:23:32.365>down <00:23:32.504>to <00:23:32.645>the <00:23:32.784>core <00:23:32.925>major <00:23:33.065>clouds,

538
00:23:36.265 --> 00:23:37.725
<00:23:36.265>I'm <00:23:36.484>not <00:23:36.703>sure, <00:23:36.922>but <00:23:37.141>at <00:23:37.360>that <00:23:37.579>level

539
00:23:37.815 --> 00:23:40.405
<00:23:37.815>where <00:23:38.015>maybe <00:23:38.215>when <00:23:38.415>you're <00:23:38.615>starting <00:23:38.815>a <00:23:39.015>new <00:23:39.215>project

540
00:23:40.625 --> 00:23:42.845
<00:23:40.625>or <00:23:40.825>you're <00:23:41.025>just <00:23:41.225>starting <00:23:41.425>to <00:23:41.625>get <00:23:41.825>scale, <00:23:42.025>that's

541
00:23:42.845 --> 00:23:45.005
<00:23:42.845>where <00:23:43.000>you're <00:23:43.156>gonna <00:23:43.311>end <00:23:43.467>up <00:23:43.622>spending <00:23:43.778>the <00:23:43.933>time <00:23:44.089>instead <00:23:44.245>of,

542
00:23:45.225 --> 00:23:48.565
<00:23:45.225>you <00:23:45.365>know, <00:23:45.504>kind <00:23:45.645>of <00:23:45.784>driving, <00:23:45.925>driving <00:23:46.064>stick <00:23:46.205>shift, <00:23:46.344>if <00:23:46.485>you <00:23:46.625>will.

543
00:23:48.595 --> 00:23:50.045
<00:23:48.595>Like, <00:23:48.812>when <00:23:49.030>you're <00:23:49.247>not <00:23:49.465>quite <00:23:49.682>there <00:23:49.900>yet

544
00:23:50.105 --> 00:23:51.405
<00:23:50.105>to <00:23:50.339>need <00:23:50.573>to <00:23:50.807>spend <00:23:51.041>that <00:23:51.275>time.

545
00:23:51.665 --> 00:23:54.365
<00:23:51.665>Um, <00:23:51.805>these <00:23:51.945>value <00:23:52.085>added <00:23:52.225>services <00:23:52.365>that <00:23:52.504>we <00:23:52.645>can <00:23:52.784>play <00:23:52.925>with <00:23:53.065>now

546
00:23:54.365 --> 00:23:57.925
<00:23:54.365>that <00:23:54.598>are <00:23:54.831>finely <00:23:55.065>tuned <00:23:55.298>to <00:23:55.531>the <00:23:55.765>applications

547
00:23:57.925 --> 00:23:58.965
<00:23:57.925>that <00:23:58.112>we're <00:23:58.299>building <00:23:58.486>and <00:23:58.673>make <00:23:58.860>it

548
00:23:58.965 --> 00:24:00.125
<00:23:58.965>super <00:23:59.139>easy <00:23:59.312>to <00:23:59.486>get <00:23:59.661>up <00:23:59.835>and <00:24:00.009>running.

549
00:24:00.545 --> 00:24:02.565
<00:24:00.545>Mm-Hmm. <00:24:00.778>It's, <00:24:01.011>it's <00:24:01.245>super <00:24:01.478>fun <00:24:01.711>to <00:24:01.945>play

550
00:24:02.565 --> 00:24:04.245
<00:24:02.565>around <00:24:02.845>with <00:24:03.125>it <00:24:03.405>right <00:24:03.685>now. <00:24:03.965>Okay.

551
00:24:04.625 --> 00:24:06.845
<00:24:04.625>And <00:24:04.800>I <00:24:04.975>think <00:24:05.150>returning <00:24:05.325>to <00:24:05.500>your <00:24:05.675>question, <00:24:05.850>I <00:24:06.025>think

552
00:24:06.845 --> 00:24:10.605
<00:24:06.845>that <00:24:06.972>right <00:24:07.099>now <00:24:07.226>instead <00:24:07.354>of <00:24:07.481>monopoly, <00:24:07.608>what <00:24:07.735>we <00:24:07.863>have <00:24:07.990>is <00:24:08.117>a <00:24:08.245>chaos.

553
00:24:11.715 --> 00:24:14.685
<00:24:11.715>Okay. <00:24:11.915>So <00:24:12.115>right <00:24:12.314>now, <00:24:12.514>one <00:24:12.715>of <00:24:12.915>the <00:24:13.115>biggest

554
00:24:14.695 --> 00:24:16.365
<00:24:14.695>Productive <00:24:15.161>or <00:24:15.628>unproductive <00:24:16.095>chaos,

555
00:24:17.025 --> 00:24:18.025
<00:24:17.025>It <00:24:17.250>is <00:24:17.475>what <00:24:17.700>it <00:24:17.925>is.

556
00:24:18.195 --> 00:24:20.405
<00:24:18.195>Okay. <00:24:18.544>So <00:24:18.895>basically <00:24:19.245>everybody's <00:24:19.595>asking

557
00:24:21.195 --> 00:24:22.805
<00:24:21.195>what <00:24:21.544>model <00:24:21.895>I <00:24:22.245>start <00:24:22.595>with.

558
00:24:23.115 --> 00:24:25.365
<00:24:23.115>Okay. <00:24:23.315>And, <00:24:23.515>and <00:24:23.715>we <00:24:23.915>are <00:24:24.115>helping <00:24:24.315>the <00:24:24.515>customers

559
00:24:25.365 --> 00:24:28.965
<00:24:25.365>because <00:24:25.565>they <00:24:25.765>literally <00:24:25.965>have <00:24:26.165>so <00:24:26.365>many <00:24:26.565>options <00:24:26.765>that

560
00:24:29.765 --> 00:24:32.245
<00:24:29.765>I <00:24:29.920>don't <00:24:30.076>think <00:24:30.231>that <00:24:30.387>monopoly <00:24:30.542>is <00:24:30.698>a <00:24:30.853>concern <00:24:31.009>right <00:24:31.165>now

561
00:24:32.245 --> 00:24:35.325
<00:24:32.245>because <00:24:32.478>okay, <00:24:32.711>even, <00:24:32.945>even <00:24:33.178>in <00:24:33.411>the <00:24:33.645>cloud,

562
00:24:35.325 --> 00:24:37.685
<00:24:35.325>things <00:24:35.500>are <00:24:35.675>much <00:24:35.850>more <00:24:36.025>clear <00:24:36.200>depending <00:24:36.375>on <00:24:36.550>what <00:24:36.725>type

563
00:24:37.685 --> 00:24:39.165
<00:24:37.685>of <00:24:38.129>service <00:24:38.572>you <00:24:39.017>want.

564
00:24:39.305 --> 00:24:42.805
<00:24:39.305>You <00:24:39.445>will <00:24:39.585>go <00:24:39.725>to <00:24:39.865>Google <00:24:40.005>Cloud <00:24:40.145>or <00:24:40.285>more <00:24:40.425>to <00:24:40.565>Microsoft <00:24:40.705>Azure

565
00:24:42.825 --> 00:24:46.205
<00:24:42.825>or <00:24:43.058>to <00:24:43.291>AWS <00:24:43.525>in <00:24:43.758>right <00:24:43.991>now <00:24:44.225>in

566
00:24:46.385 --> 00:24:48.205
<00:24:46.385>ai. <00:24:46.851>It's <00:24:47.318>a <00:24:47.785>mess.

567
00:24:48.715 --> 00:24:51.405
<00:24:48.715>Okay. <00:24:48.948>So, <00:24:49.181>no, <00:24:49.415>I <00:24:49.648>don't <00:24:49.881>think <00:24:50.115>that

568
00:24:52.015 --> 00:24:53.015
<00:24:52.015>Would <00:24:52.165>dominate. <00:24:52.315>I <00:24:52.465>want, <00:24:52.615>I <00:24:52.765>wanna <00:24:52.915>come

569
00:24:53.015 --> 00:24:54.845
<00:24:53.015>to <00:24:53.365>the <00:24:53.715>last, <00:24:54.065>uh, <00:24:54.415>trend

570
00:24:54.945 --> 00:24:59.005
<00:24:54.945>or <00:24:55.100>discussing, <00:24:55.256>uh, <00:24:55.411>which, <00:24:55.567>which <00:24:55.722>I, <00:24:55.878>uh, <00:24:56.033>put <00:24:56.189>up <00:24:56.345>right

571
00:24:59.005 --> 00:25:01.245
<00:24:59.005>before <00:24:59.238>the <00:24:59.471>beginning <00:24:59.705>shortage <00:24:59.938>of, <00:25:00.171>of <00:25:00.405>developers.

572
00:25:01.265 --> 00:25:03.205
<00:25:01.265>And <00:25:01.498>how <00:25:01.731>do <00:25:01.965>you <00:25:02.198>judge, <00:25:02.431>uh, <00:25:02.665>uh,

573
00:25:03.205 --> 00:25:04.925
<00:25:03.205>that <00:25:03.360>I <00:25:03.516>think <00:25:03.671>you've <00:25:03.827>already <00:25:03.982>coming <00:25:04.138>from <00:25:04.293>the <00:25:04.449>open <00:25:04.605>source

574
00:25:04.925 --> 00:25:08.045
<00:25:04.925>community, <00:25:05.100>Matthew, <00:25:05.274>I <00:25:05.450>think, <00:25:05.625>uh, <00:25:05.800>you <00:25:05.975>have <00:25:06.149>some <00:25:06.325>things

575
00:25:08.045 --> 00:25:10.805
<00:25:08.045>to <00:25:08.245>say <00:25:08.445>about <00:25:08.645>are <00:25:08.845>we <00:25:09.045>really <00:25:09.245>experiencing <00:25:09.445>one

576
00:25:10.825 --> 00:25:14.045
<00:25:10.825>or <00:25:11.058>is <00:25:11.291>it <00:25:11.525>somehow <00:25:11.758>stopping <00:25:11.991>the <00:25:12.225>digitization

577
00:25:14.045 --> 00:25:15.805
<00:25:14.045>or <00:25:14.245>is <00:25:14.445>it <00:25:14.645>not <00:25:14.845>as <00:25:15.045>important <00:25:15.245>as <00:25:15.445>Yeah.

578
00:25:16.065 --> 00:25:17.885
<00:25:16.065>And, <00:25:16.298>and <00:25:16.531>we <00:25:16.765>were <00:25:16.998>talking <00:25:17.231>about <00:25:17.465>that

579
00:25:17.885 --> 00:25:20.685
<00:25:17.885>because <00:25:18.165>it's <00:25:18.445>a <00:25:18.725>shortage <00:25:19.004>of <00:25:19.285>developers.

580
00:25:20.825 --> 00:25:22.885
<00:25:20.825>We <00:25:21.000>don't <00:25:21.175>think <00:25:21.350>that <00:25:21.525>it's <00:25:21.700>a <00:25:21.875>shortage <00:25:22.050>of <00:25:22.225>developers.

581
00:25:22.945 --> 00:25:26.925
<00:25:22.945>We <00:25:23.085>think <00:25:23.225>it's <00:25:23.365>a <00:25:23.504>shortage <00:25:23.645>of <00:25:23.784>acquisition <00:25:23.925>of <00:25:24.064>new <00:25:24.205>talent. <00:25:24.345>Okay.

582
00:25:26.995 --> 00:25:29.125
<00:25:26.995>That, <00:25:27.274>that <00:25:27.554>applies <00:25:27.834>to <00:25:28.114>developers. <00:25:28.395>Mm-Hmm.

583
00:25:29.385 --> 00:25:30.605
<00:25:29.385>So <00:25:29.751>we <00:25:30.117>have <00:25:30.483>been,

584
00:25:30.665 --> 00:25:32.605
<00:25:30.665>and <00:25:30.840>especially <00:25:31.014>a <00:25:31.190>company <00:25:31.365>like <00:25:31.540>re <00:25:31.715>hat, <00:25:31.889>I <00:25:32.065>mean,

585
00:25:32.865 --> 00:25:35.965
<00:25:32.865>we <00:25:33.065>have <00:25:33.265>been <00:25:33.465>working <00:25:33.665>with <00:25:33.865>Java, <00:25:34.065>very <00:25:34.265>technology

586
00:25:35.965 --> 00:25:38.045
<00:25:35.965>that <00:25:36.139>has <00:25:36.314>been <00:25:36.490>there <00:25:36.665>for <00:25:36.840>the <00:25:37.014>last <00:25:37.189>30 <00:25:37.365>years.

587
00:25:38.585 --> 00:25:40.565
<00:25:38.585>And <00:25:38.740>the <00:25:38.896>challenge <00:25:39.051>is <00:25:39.207>always <00:25:39.362>when <00:25:39.518>you <00:25:39.673>have <00:25:39.829>these <00:25:39.985>type

588
00:25:40.565 --> 00:25:42.885
<00:25:40.565>of <00:25:40.720>developers, <00:25:40.876>it's <00:25:41.031>difficult <00:25:41.187>for <00:25:41.342>them <00:25:41.498>to <00:25:41.653>learn <00:25:41.809>new <00:25:41.965>things

589
00:25:42.885 --> 00:25:44.485
<00:25:42.885>because <00:25:43.165>they <00:25:43.445>are <00:25:43.725>super <00:25:44.004>expert <00:25:44.285>on

590
00:25:44.485 --> 00:25:45.685
<00:25:44.485>what <00:25:44.701>they <00:25:44.917>are <00:25:45.132>doing <00:25:45.349>right <00:25:45.565>now.

591
00:25:46.065 --> 00:25:49.485
<00:25:46.065>So <00:25:46.220>the <00:25:46.376>challenge <00:25:46.531>is <00:25:46.687>always <00:25:46.842>to <00:25:46.998>recycle <00:25:47.153>what <00:25:47.309>you <00:25:47.465>know

592
00:25:49.505 --> 00:25:50.765
<00:25:49.505>and <00:25:49.788>start <00:25:50.072>learning <00:25:50.355>new <00:25:50.639>things.

593
00:25:51.025 --> 00:25:54.045
<00:25:51.025>But <00:25:51.165>again, <00:25:51.305>it's <00:25:51.445>happening <00:25:51.585>in <00:25:51.725>my <00:25:51.865>team, <00:25:52.005>in <00:25:52.145>my <00:25:52.285>own <00:25:52.425>team,

594
00:25:54.365 --> 00:25:57.325
<00:25:54.365>I <00:25:54.520>just <00:25:54.676>received <00:25:54.831>an <00:25:54.987>note, <00:25:55.142>I <00:25:55.298>need <00:25:55.453>to <00:25:55.609>learn <00:25:55.765>this.

595
00:25:57.545 --> 00:25:59.765
<00:25:57.545>And <00:25:57.745>I <00:25:57.945>am <00:25:58.145>like, <00:25:58.345>yep, <00:25:58.545>you <00:25:58.745>need <00:25:58.945>to

596
00:26:00.075 --> 00:26:02.165
<00:26:00.075>because <00:26:00.308>you <00:26:00.541>are <00:26:00.775>super <00:26:01.008>expert <00:26:01.241>on <00:26:01.475>this.

597
00:26:02.165 --> 00:26:04.765
<00:26:02.165>But <00:26:02.320>now <00:26:02.476>the <00:26:02.631>customer <00:26:02.787>is <00:26:02.942>asking <00:26:03.098>about <00:26:03.253>that <00:26:03.409>intra <00:26:03.565>lab

598
00:26:04.765 --> 00:26:07.685
<00:26:04.765>that <00:26:04.905>is <00:26:05.045>the <00:26:05.185>last <00:26:05.325>thing <00:26:05.465>that <00:26:05.605>we <00:26:05.745>launched <00:26:05.885>two <00:26:06.025>months <00:26:06.165>ago,

599
00:26:07.705 --> 00:26:08.725
<00:26:07.705>and <00:26:07.858>you <00:26:08.011>need <00:26:08.164>to <00:26:08.317>do <00:26:08.469>a <00:26:08.622>session.

600
00:26:09.185 --> 00:26:10.445
<00:26:09.185>So <00:26:09.468>again, <00:26:09.752>it's <00:26:10.035>not <00:26:10.319>something

601
00:26:10.445 --> 00:26:13.605
<00:26:10.445>that <00:26:10.620>is <00:26:10.794>affecting <00:26:10.970>developers <00:26:11.145>only, <00:26:11.320>it's <00:26:11.495>across <00:26:11.669>the <00:26:11.845>industry.

602
00:26:13.835 --> 00:26:15.765
<00:26:13.835>Guys, <00:26:14.535>welcome. <00:26:15.235>Reinvent.

603
00:26:16.195 --> 00:26:19.165
<00:26:16.195>Okay. <00:26:16.350>So <00:26:16.506>the <00:26:16.661>part <00:26:16.817>of <00:26:16.972>the <00:26:17.128>shortage <00:26:17.283>is <00:26:17.439>maybe <00:26:17.595>that,

604
00:26:19.165 --> 00:26:22.925
<00:26:19.165>that <00:26:19.340>companies <00:26:19.514>are <00:26:19.690>always <00:26:19.865>looking <00:26:20.040>for <00:26:20.215>really <00:26:20.389>specific <00:26:20.565>kind

605
00:26:22.925 --> 00:26:25.685
<00:26:22.925>of <00:26:23.158>developers <00:26:23.391>instead <00:26:23.625>of <00:26:23.858>being <00:26:24.091>more <00:26:24.325>open-minded

606
00:26:25.785 --> 00:26:28.125
<00:26:25.785>and <00:26:25.985>saying, <00:26:26.185>well, <00:26:26.385>of <00:26:26.585>course <00:26:26.785>we <00:26:26.985>can <00:26:27.185>specialize,

607
00:26:28.185 --> 00:26:30.525
<00:26:28.185>but <00:26:28.534>first <00:26:28.885>habit <00:26:29.235>developer. <00:26:29.585>I

608
00:26:30.525 --> 00:26:31.525
<00:26:30.525>Dunno. <00:26:30.825>Yeah. <00:26:31.125>I <00:26:31.425>mean,

609
00:26:31.525 --> 00:26:33.605
<00:26:31.525>it's <00:26:31.725>just, <00:26:31.925>I <00:26:32.125>just <00:26:32.325>trying <00:26:32.525>to <00:26:32.725>keep <00:26:32.925>up

610
00:26:33.605 --> 00:26:35.125
<00:26:33.605>with <00:26:33.800>all <00:26:33.995>this <00:26:34.191>stuff <00:26:34.386>too <00:26:34.582>is <00:26:34.777>really <00:26:34.973>tough.

611
00:26:35.185 --> 00:26:37.525
<00:26:35.185>So <00:26:35.325>I <00:26:35.465>think <00:26:35.605>a <00:26:35.745>lot <00:26:35.885>of <00:26:36.024>times, <00:26:36.165>I <00:26:36.304>mean <00:26:36.445>there <00:26:36.585>used

612
00:26:37.525 --> 00:26:40.245
<00:26:37.525>to <00:26:37.700>be <00:26:37.875>this <00:26:38.050>classic <00:26:38.225>example, <00:26:38.400>let's <00:26:38.575>call <00:26:38.750>it <00:26:38.925>again,

613
00:26:40.245 --> 00:26:41.605
<00:26:40.245>something <00:26:40.448>like <00:26:40.653>eight <00:26:40.857>to <00:26:41.061>10 <00:26:41.264>years <00:26:41.469>ago.

614
00:26:41.705 --> 00:26:45.245
<00:26:41.705>By <00:26:41.821>the <00:26:41.938>way, <00:26:42.054>I <00:26:42.171>love <00:26:42.288>your <00:26:42.405>take <00:26:42.521>that <00:26:42.638>Java <00:26:42.754>died <00:26:42.871>13 <00:26:42.988>years <00:26:43.105>ago.

615
00:26:45.575 --> 00:26:48.245
<00:26:45.575>Super <00:26:45.730>hot <00:26:45.886>take <00:26:46.041>at <00:26:46.197>the <00:26:46.352>last <00:26:46.508>talk <00:26:46.663>at <00:26:46.819>the <00:26:46.975>event.

616
00:26:48.385 --> 00:26:51.285
<00:26:48.385>Um, <00:26:48.560>but <00:26:48.735>same <00:26:48.910>way <00:26:49.085>when <00:26:49.260>Swift <00:26:49.435>came <00:26:49.610>around, <00:26:49.785>one

617
00:26:51.285 --> 00:26:53.405
<00:26:51.285>of <00:26:51.460>the <00:26:51.635>classic <00:26:51.810>jokes <00:26:51.985>was <00:26:52.160>like <00:26:52.335>everyone <00:26:52.510>was <00:26:52.685>looking

618
00:26:53.425 --> 00:26:54.845
<00:26:53.425>for <00:26:53.680>developers <00:26:53.936>with <00:26:54.191>like <00:26:54.447>eight <00:26:54.703>years

619
00:26:54.845 --> 00:26:56.085
<00:26:54.845>of <00:26:55.124>experience <00:26:55.403>in <00:26:55.682>a <00:26:55.961>language.

620
00:26:56.085 --> 00:26:58.285
<00:26:56.085>Yeah. <00:26:56.285>That <00:26:56.485>had <00:26:56.685>been <00:26:56.885>around <00:26:57.085>for <00:26:57.285>two <00:26:57.485>years.

621
00:26:59.265 --> 00:27:03.005
<00:26:59.265>Uh, <00:26:59.381>and <00:26:59.498>I <00:26:59.615>think <00:26:59.731>you'll <00:26:59.848>see <00:26:59.965>that <00:27:00.081>in <00:27:00.198>the <00:27:00.315>AI <00:27:00.431>space <00:27:00.548>as <00:27:00.665>well,

622
00:27:03.135 --> 00:27:07.045
<00:27:03.135>where <00:27:03.275>just <00:27:03.415>trying <00:27:03.555>to <00:27:03.695>keep <00:27:03.835>up <00:27:03.975>with <00:27:04.115>this <00:27:04.254>stuff <00:27:04.395>is <00:27:04.535>like,

623
00:27:07.105 --> 00:27:08.165
<00:27:07.105>no <00:27:07.295>one <00:27:07.486>can <00:27:07.677>do <00:27:07.868>it <00:27:08.059>really.

624
00:27:08.425 --> 00:27:09.605
<00:27:08.425>And <00:27:08.779>maybe <00:27:09.133>that's <00:27:09.487>okay.

625
00:27:09.985 --> 00:27:13.325
<00:27:09.985>Uh, <00:27:10.125>but <00:27:10.264>I <00:27:10.405>think <00:27:10.544>there <00:27:10.685>are <00:27:10.824>those <00:27:10.965>of <00:27:11.104>us <00:27:11.245>who <00:27:11.385>love

626
00:27:13.325 --> 00:27:14.605
<00:27:13.325>to <00:27:13.555>drink <00:27:13.785>from <00:27:14.016>the <00:27:14.246>fire <00:27:14.477>hose.

627
00:27:14.825 --> 00:27:18.605
<00:27:14.825>I'm <00:27:14.941>one <00:27:15.058>of <00:27:15.175>those <00:27:15.291>people. <00:27:15.408>And <00:27:15.525>then <00:27:15.641>I <00:27:15.758>like <00:27:15.875>to <00:27:15.991>find <00:27:16.108>the <00:27:16.225>stuff

628
00:27:18.605 --> 00:27:20.365
<00:27:18.605>that <00:27:18.805>I <00:27:19.005>find <00:27:19.205>is <00:27:19.405>going <00:27:19.605>to <00:27:19.805>be <00:27:20.005>relevant

629
00:27:20.365 --> 00:27:21.925
<00:27:20.365>to <00:27:20.715>say <00:27:21.065>our <00:27:21.415>developers <00:27:21.765>internally.

630
00:27:22.015 --> 00:27:23.925
<00:27:22.015>Right? <00:27:22.295>Or <00:27:22.575>maybe <00:27:22.855>they'll <00:27:23.135>be <00:27:23.415>interested

631
00:27:23.925 --> 00:27:25.005
<00:27:23.925>in <00:27:24.168>it, <00:27:24.411>maybe <00:27:24.654>they <00:27:24.897>won't.

632
00:27:25.065 --> 00:27:27.605
<00:27:25.065>But <00:27:25.192>like <00:27:25.319>it's <00:27:25.446>good <00:27:25.574>to <00:27:25.701>put <00:27:25.828>some <00:27:25.955>of <00:27:26.083>that <00:27:26.210>stuff <00:27:26.337>out <00:27:26.465>there

633
00:27:27.665 --> 00:27:30.685
<00:27:27.665>and <00:27:27.898>then <00:27:28.131>occasionally <00:27:28.365>write <00:27:28.598>a <00:27:28.831>little <00:27:29.065>repo

634
00:27:30.685 --> 00:27:32.245
<00:27:30.685>or <00:27:30.885>something <00:27:31.085>just <00:27:31.284>to <00:27:31.485>say <00:27:31.685>like, <00:27:31.885>Hey, <00:27:32.085>here's

635
00:27:32.245 --> 00:27:34.285
<00:27:32.245>how <00:27:32.478>you <00:27:32.711>get <00:27:32.945>started <00:27:33.178>with <00:27:33.411>this <00:27:33.645>library

636
00:27:34.355 --> 00:27:37.285
<00:27:34.355>that <00:27:34.510>helps <00:27:34.666>you <00:27:34.821>build <00:27:34.977>a <00:27:35.132>rag <00:27:35.288>system <00:27:35.443>to, <00:27:35.599>you <00:27:35.755>know,

637
00:27:38.195 --> 00:27:40.405
<00:27:38.195>customize <00:27:38.428>your <00:27:38.661>AI <00:27:38.895>with <00:27:39.128>the <00:27:39.361>bespoke <00:27:39.595>data.

638
00:27:40.515 --> 00:27:43.125
<00:27:40.515>Just <00:27:40.748>as <00:27:40.981>one <00:27:41.215>example. <00:27:41.448>But, <00:27:41.681>um, <00:27:41.915>yeah,

639
00:27:43.205 --> 00:27:45.165
<00:27:43.205>I <00:27:43.438>think <00:27:43.671>things <00:27:43.905>are <00:27:44.138>just <00:27:44.371>constantly <00:27:44.605>changing.

640
00:27:45.265 --> 00:27:48.245
<00:27:45.265>And <00:27:45.392>that's <00:27:45.519>part <00:27:45.646>of <00:27:45.774>the <00:27:45.901>sort <00:27:46.028>of <00:27:46.155>maybe <00:27:46.283>the <00:27:46.410>feeling <00:27:46.537>of <00:27:46.665>shortage

641
00:27:48.505 --> 00:27:50.125
<00:27:48.505>of <00:27:48.738>developers, <00:27:48.971>because <00:27:49.205>I <00:27:49.438>agree <00:27:49.671>with <00:27:49.905>you.

642
00:27:50.315 --> 00:27:53.205
<00:27:50.315>There's <00:27:50.490>no <00:27:50.665>shortage <00:27:50.840>of <00:27:51.015>software <00:27:51.190>developers <00:27:51.365>in <00:27:51.540>the <00:27:51.715>universe,

643
00:27:54.185 --> 00:27:56.005
<00:27:54.185>but <00:27:54.418>sometimes <00:27:54.651>the <00:27:54.885>things <00:27:55.118>that <00:27:55.351>we're <00:27:55.585>looking

644
00:27:56.025 --> 00:27:59.725
<00:27:56.025>for <00:27:56.165>in <00:27:56.305>a <00:27:56.445>given <00:27:56.585>moment, <00:27:56.725>um, <00:27:56.865>it's <00:27:57.005>just <00:27:57.145>those <00:27:57.285>aren't <00:27:57.425>things

645
00:27:59.725 --> 00:28:01.205
<00:27:59.725>that <00:27:59.915>were <00:28:00.105>taught <00:28:00.295>in <00:28:00.486>school <00:28:00.676>because <00:28:00.866>they <00:28:01.057>were

646
00:28:01.405 --> 00:28:03.565
<00:28:01.405>invented <00:28:01.871>last <00:28:02.338>month. <00:28:02.805>Mm-Hmm.

647
00:28:04.035 --> 00:28:08.285
<00:28:04.035>Okay. <00:28:04.315>Um, <00:28:04.595>coming, <00:28:04.875>coming <00:28:05.155>to <00:28:05.435>this,

648
00:28:08.285 --> 00:28:11.085
<00:28:08.285>because <00:28:08.460>that's <00:28:08.635>kind <00:28:08.810>of <00:28:08.985>interesting <00:28:09.160>as <00:28:09.335>well, <00:28:09.510>how, <00:28:09.685>how,

649
00:28:11.235 --> 00:28:14.485
<00:28:11.235>it's <00:28:11.375>kind <00:28:11.514>of <00:28:11.655>the <00:28:11.794>question <00:28:11.935>how <00:28:12.074>we <00:28:12.215>design <00:28:12.354>a <00:28:12.495>company's <00:28:12.635>suitable

650
00:28:14.545 --> 00:28:17.245
<00:28:14.545>for <00:28:14.685>developers, <00:28:14.825>or <00:28:14.965>how <00:28:15.105>do <00:28:15.245>we <00:28:15.385>integrate <00:28:15.525>those <00:28:15.665>in <00:28:15.805>a <00:28:15.945>company?

651
00:28:17.245 --> 00:28:19.045
<00:28:17.245>Because <00:28:17.445>when <00:28:17.645>you <00:28:17.844>see, <00:28:18.044>look <00:28:18.245>at <00:28:18.445>the <00:28:18.645>numbers,

652
00:28:19.185 --> 00:28:21.005
<00:28:19.185>you <00:28:19.418>have <00:28:19.651>thousands <00:28:19.885>of <00:28:20.118>developers <00:28:20.351>in, <00:28:20.585>in,

653
00:28:21.005 --> 00:28:24.525
<00:28:21.005>in <00:28:21.145>bigger <00:28:21.285>corporations, <00:28:21.425>you <00:28:21.565>have, <00:28:21.705>uh, <00:28:21.845>a <00:28:21.985>lot <00:28:22.125>of <00:28:22.265>the <00:28:22.405>value

654
00:28:24.585 --> 00:28:27.725
<00:28:24.585>or <00:28:24.740>sometimes <00:28:24.896>most <00:28:25.051>of <00:28:25.207>the <00:28:25.362>value <00:28:25.518>is <00:28:25.673>created <00:28:25.829>by <00:28:25.985>developers.

655
00:28:27.745 --> 00:28:30.565
<00:28:27.745>So <00:28:27.945>we, <00:28:28.145>we <00:28:28.344>are <00:28:28.544>shifting <00:28:28.745>towards, <00:28:28.945>uh, <00:28:29.145>more

656
00:28:30.585 --> 00:28:35.365
<00:28:30.585>and <00:28:30.760>more, <00:28:30.935>um, <00:28:31.110>developers <00:28:31.285>shaped <00:28:31.460>companies <00:28:31.635>who <00:28:31.810>were <00:28:31.985>maybe

657
00:28:35.385 --> 00:28:38.245
<00:28:35.385>for <00:28:35.665>manufacturing <00:28:35.945>companies <00:28:36.225>or <00:28:36.504>design <00:28:36.785>companies.

658
00:28:38.425 --> 00:28:41.525
<00:28:38.425>We <00:28:38.600>are <00:28:38.774>getting <00:28:38.950>into, <00:28:39.125>into, <00:28:39.300>uh, <00:28:39.475>developer <00:28:39.649>shaped <00:28:39.825>companies.

659
00:28:42.225 --> 00:28:44.965
<00:28:42.225>Um, <00:28:42.458>Irina, <00:28:42.691>what, <00:28:42.925>what <00:28:43.158>does <00:28:43.391>that <00:28:43.625>mean

660
00:28:44.985 --> 00:28:46.045
<00:28:44.985>for <00:28:45.175>a <00:28:45.366>culture <00:28:45.557>of <00:28:45.748>a <00:28:45.939>company?

661
00:28:46.105 --> 00:28:49.125
<00:28:46.105>How <00:28:46.212>do <00:28:46.320>we <00:28:46.428>deal <00:28:46.535>with <00:28:46.643>it? <00:28:46.751>Or <00:28:46.858>are <00:28:46.966>we <00:28:47.074>ready <00:28:47.181>to <00:28:47.289>deal <00:28:47.397>with <00:28:47.505>that?

662
00:28:49.385 --> 00:28:51.525
<00:28:49.385>And, <00:28:49.851>um, <00:28:50.318>maybe <00:28:50.785>just

663
00:28:51.525 --> 00:28:54.725
<00:28:51.525>because <00:28:51.680>pointing <00:28:51.836>out <00:28:51.991>to <00:28:52.147>the <00:28:52.302>question <00:28:52.458>that <00:28:52.613>we, <00:28:52.769>we <00:28:52.925>are

664
00:28:55.265 --> 00:28:58.885
<00:28:55.265>having <00:28:55.440>learned <00:28:55.615>right <00:28:55.790>now <00:28:55.965>to <00:28:56.140>exploit <00:28:56.315>the, <00:28:56.490>the <00:28:56.665>variability

665
00:28:58.985 --> 00:29:02.245
<00:28:58.985>of <00:28:59.185>developers <00:28:59.385>maybe <00:28:59.584>within, <00:28:59.784>within <00:28:59.985>a <00:29:00.185>business <00:29:00.385>subject.

666
00:29:02.485 --> 00:29:04.485
<00:29:02.485>I, <00:29:02.685>I, <00:29:02.885>I <00:29:03.084>think <00:29:03.284>this <00:29:03.485>is <00:29:03.685>excellent <00:29:03.885>question.

667
00:29:04.525 --> 00:29:06.125
<00:29:04.525>I <00:29:04.680>would <00:29:04.836>love <00:29:04.991>to <00:29:05.147>have <00:29:05.302>more <00:29:05.458>time <00:29:05.613>on <00:29:05.769>this <00:29:05.925>one,

668
00:29:06.125 --> 00:29:07.765
<00:29:06.125>but <00:29:06.280>let <00:29:06.436>me <00:29:06.591>try <00:29:06.747>to <00:29:06.902>make <00:29:07.058>it <00:29:07.213>a <00:29:07.369>short <00:29:07.525>answer.

669
00:29:08.345 --> 00:29:10.205
<00:29:08.345>Uh, <00:29:08.500>we <00:29:08.656>are <00:29:08.811>one <00:29:08.967>of <00:29:09.122>the <00:29:09.278>companies <00:29:09.433>who <00:29:09.589>have <00:29:09.745>like,

670
00:29:10.435 --> 00:29:12.565
<00:29:10.435>obviously <00:29:10.668>a <00:29:10.901>lot, <00:29:11.135>a <00:29:11.368>lot <00:29:11.601>of <00:29:11.835>developers,

671
00:29:12.705 --> 00:29:16.565
<00:29:12.705>and <00:29:12.879>we <00:29:13.054>walked <00:29:13.230>from, <00:29:13.405>uh, <00:29:13.580>through <00:29:13.754>this <00:29:13.929>innovation <00:29:14.105>cycle

672
00:29:16.785 --> 00:29:18.045
<00:29:16.785>and <00:29:17.068>here's <00:29:17.352>what <00:29:17.635>we <00:29:17.919>learned.

673
00:29:18.465 --> 00:29:20.445
<00:29:18.465>Number <00:29:18.745>one, <00:29:19.024>break <00:29:19.304>down <00:29:19.584>the <00:29:19.865>silos

674
00:29:20.445 --> 00:29:22.285
<00:29:20.445>because <00:29:20.911>developers <00:29:21.378>really <00:29:21.845>strive.

675
00:29:22.465 --> 00:29:26.245
<00:29:22.465>If <00:29:22.581>there <00:29:22.698>is <00:29:22.814>a <00:29:22.931>community, <00:29:23.048>if <00:29:23.165>there <00:29:23.281>is <00:29:23.398>a, <00:29:23.514>like <00:29:23.631>a <00:29:23.748>crowned <00:29:23.865>mind

676
00:29:26.245 --> 00:29:27.525
<00:29:26.245>that <00:29:26.533>is <00:29:26.821>working <00:29:27.109>on <00:29:27.397>things

677
00:29:27.865 --> 00:29:30.645
<00:29:27.865>and <00:29:28.145>try <00:29:28.425>to <00:29:28.705>improve <00:29:28.985>every <00:29:29.265>day,

678
00:29:31.305 --> 00:29:33.845
<00:29:31.305>go <00:29:31.505>away <00:29:31.705>from <00:29:31.905>this <00:29:32.105>know <00:29:32.305>it <00:29:32.505>all <00:29:32.705>culture

679
00:29:34.065 --> 00:29:35.645
<00:29:34.065>to <00:29:34.415>learn <00:29:34.765>it <00:29:35.115>all <00:29:35.465>culture.

680
00:29:36.265 --> 00:29:37.765
<00:29:36.265>Oh, <00:29:36.433>that's <00:29:36.602>great. <00:29:36.771>And <00:29:36.940>it, <00:29:37.108>it's <00:29:37.277>really, <00:29:37.446>really <00:29:37.615>hard,

681
00:29:37.945 --> 00:29:39.605
<00:29:37.945>but <00:29:38.225>it's <00:29:38.504>really <00:29:38.784>important <00:29:39.064>to <00:29:39.345>embrace

682
00:29:40.265 --> 00:29:42.405
<00:29:40.265>and <00:29:40.545>honestly, <00:29:40.825>put <00:29:41.105>yourself <00:29:41.385>out <00:29:41.665>there.

683
00:29:42.665 --> 00:29:44.965
<00:29:42.665>It <00:29:42.865>doesn't <00:29:43.065>matter <00:29:43.264>if <00:29:43.465>you <00:29:43.665>just <00:29:43.865>finished <00:29:44.065>university

684
00:29:44.985 --> 00:29:47.645
<00:29:44.985>or <00:29:45.159>you've <00:29:45.334>been <00:29:45.510>coding <00:29:45.685>for <00:29:45.860>30 <00:29:46.034>years <00:29:46.209>this <00:29:46.385>time.

685
00:29:47.785 --> 00:29:50.245
<00:29:47.785>Now <00:29:47.985>this <00:29:48.185>is <00:29:48.385>maybe <00:29:48.585>the <00:29:48.785>most <00:29:48.985>exciting <00:29:49.185>you've

686
00:29:50.245 --> 00:29:51.285
<00:29:50.245>seen <00:29:50.479>in <00:29:50.713>the <00:29:50.947>software <00:29:51.181>industry.

687
00:29:51.305 --> 00:29:54.645
<00:29:51.305>And <00:29:51.460>I <00:29:51.616>think <00:29:51.771>you <00:29:51.927>can <00:29:52.082>be, <00:29:52.238>you <00:29:52.393>know, <00:29:52.549>the <00:29:52.705>lighthouse

688
00:29:54.705 --> 00:29:55.925
<00:29:54.705>to <00:29:54.924>the <00:29:55.144>rest <00:29:55.363>of <00:29:55.583>your <00:29:55.803>organization.

689
00:29:55.945 --> 00:29:58.405
<00:29:55.945>And <00:29:56.120>let's <00:29:56.294>bring <00:29:56.470>the <00:29:56.645>spirit <00:29:56.820>back <00:29:56.995>to <00:29:57.169>everybody <00:29:57.345>else

690
00:29:58.475 --> 00:30:00.325
<00:29:58.475>because <00:29:58.630>I <00:29:58.786>think <00:29:58.941>we <00:29:59.097>have <00:29:59.252>a <00:29:59.408>lot <00:29:59.563>of <00:29:59.719>the <00:29:59.875>give

691
00:30:01.845 --> 00:30:02.845
<00:30:01.845>For <00:30:02.070>open <00:30:02.295>source. <00:30:02.520>Do <00:30:02.745>you

692
00:30:02.845 --> 00:30:04.305
<00:30:02.845>miss <00:30:03.173>this <00:30:03.502>kind <00:30:03.830>of <00:30:04.159>flexibility

693
00:30:04.445 --> 00:30:05.985
<00:30:04.445>or <00:30:04.907>openness <00:30:05.369>sometimes <00:30:05.831>in

694
00:30:06.655 --> 00:30:08.785
<00:30:06.655>Yeah, <00:30:06.855>what <00:30:07.055>I <00:30:07.254>think <00:30:07.455>that <00:30:07.655>has <00:30:07.855>changed, <00:30:08.055>uh,

695
00:30:09.045 --> 00:30:11.185
<00:30:09.045>in <00:30:09.220>the <00:30:09.395>past <00:30:09.570>we <00:30:09.745>used <00:30:09.920>to <00:30:10.095>be <00:30:10.270>more <00:30:10.445>associated

696
00:30:11.335 --> 00:30:14.025
<00:30:11.335>with <00:30:11.568>the <00:30:11.801>IT <00:30:12.035>systems, <00:30:12.268>with <00:30:12.501>the <00:30:12.735>infrastructure.

697
00:30:14.355 --> 00:30:16.985
<00:30:14.355>Right <00:30:14.588>now <00:30:14.821>that <00:30:15.055>has <00:30:15.288>changed <00:30:15.521>completely. <00:30:15.755>Okay.

698
00:30:17.085 --> 00:30:19.465
<00:30:17.085>So <00:30:17.240>right <00:30:17.396>now, <00:30:17.551>if <00:30:17.707>you <00:30:17.862>are <00:30:18.018>a <00:30:18.173>company, <00:30:18.329>no <00:30:18.485>matter

699
00:30:19.465 --> 00:30:20.945
<00:30:19.465>what <00:30:19.731>company <00:30:19.997>you <00:30:20.264>are <00:30:20.530>talking <00:30:20.797>about,

700
00:30:20.955 --> 00:30:23.265
<00:30:20.955>innovation <00:30:21.155>is <00:30:21.355>a <00:30:21.554>core <00:30:21.754>element <00:30:21.955>of <00:30:22.155>the <00:30:22.355>company.

701
00:30:23.605 --> 00:30:25.505
<00:30:23.605>And <00:30:23.885>developers <00:30:24.165>are <00:30:24.445>behind <00:30:24.725>that <00:30:25.005>innovation.

702
00:30:25.815 --> 00:30:27.505
<00:30:25.815>It's <00:30:26.281>always, <00:30:26.748>the <00:30:27.215>analogy

703
00:30:27.535 --> 00:30:30.625
<00:30:27.535>that <00:30:27.662>we <00:30:27.789>always <00:30:27.916>say <00:30:28.044>is <00:30:28.171>the <00:30:28.298>CEO <00:30:28.425>can <00:30:28.553>define <00:30:28.680>whatever <00:30:28.807>he <00:30:28.935>wants.

704
00:30:30.725 --> 00:30:32.425
<00:30:30.725>He <00:30:30.880>can <00:30:31.036>say, <00:30:31.191>no, <00:30:31.347>no, <00:30:31.502>we <00:30:31.658>need <00:30:31.813>to <00:30:31.969>go <00:30:32.125>there.

705
00:30:32.845 --> 00:30:35.305
<00:30:32.845>The <00:30:33.000>developer <00:30:33.156>team <00:30:33.311>is <00:30:33.467>going <00:30:33.622>to <00:30:33.778>tell <00:30:33.933>them, <00:30:34.089>no, <00:30:34.245>no,

706
00:30:35.855 --> 00:30:37.105
<00:30:35.855>there's <00:30:36.136>not <00:30:36.417>going <00:30:36.698>to <00:30:36.980>happen.

707
00:30:37.315 --> 00:30:39.945
<00:30:37.315>We're <00:30:37.442>going <00:30:37.569>to <00:30:37.696>go <00:30:37.824>there <00:30:37.951>because <00:30:38.078>this <00:30:38.205>is <00:30:38.333>what <00:30:38.460>we <00:30:38.587>can <00:30:38.715>code.

708
00:30:40.405 --> 00:30:42.225
<00:30:40.405>So <00:30:40.560>if <00:30:40.716>you <00:30:40.871>want <00:30:41.027>to <00:30:41.182>go <00:30:41.338>there, <00:30:41.493>best <00:30:41.649>of <00:30:41.805>luck.

709
00:30:42.765 --> 00:30:45.105
<00:30:42.765>You <00:30:42.940>have <00:30:43.115>your <00:30:43.290>vision, <00:30:43.465>I <00:30:43.640>am <00:30:43.815>telling <00:30:43.990>you <00:30:44.165>exactly

710
00:30:45.105 --> 00:30:46.185
<00:30:45.105>where <00:30:45.299>we <00:30:45.493>are <00:30:45.688>going <00:30:45.882>to <00:30:46.077>arrive.

711
00:30:46.325 --> 00:30:49.065
<00:30:46.325>And <00:30:46.452>that <00:30:46.579>is <00:30:46.706>what <00:30:46.834>the <00:30:46.961>developer <00:30:47.088>team <00:30:47.215>is <00:30:47.343>going <00:30:47.470>to <00:30:47.597>tell <00:30:47.725>them.

712
00:30:49.245 --> 00:30:50.585
<00:30:49.245>So <00:30:49.647>again, <00:30:50.049>I <00:30:50.451>think

713
00:30:50.585 --> 00:30:52.905
<00:30:50.585>that <00:30:50.725>the <00:30:50.865>situation <00:30:51.005>has <00:30:51.145>changed <00:30:51.285>a <00:30:51.425>lot <00:30:51.565>during <00:30:51.705>the <00:30:51.845>last <00:30:51.985>years.

714
00:30:53.105 --> 00:30:56.145
<00:30:53.105>I <00:30:53.260>am <00:30:53.416>very <00:30:53.571>proud <00:30:53.727>to <00:30:53.882>be <00:30:54.038>part <00:30:54.193>of <00:30:54.349>that <00:30:54.505>culture

715
00:30:56.145 --> 00:30:58.865
<00:30:56.145>because <00:30:56.425>again, <00:30:56.705>yeah, <00:30:56.985>CEO, <00:30:57.264>great <00:30:57.545>idea.

716
00:30:59.925 --> 00:31:03.065
<00:30:59.925>So <00:31:00.065>the <00:31:00.205>CEOs <00:31:00.345>has <00:31:00.485>as <00:31:00.625>much <00:31:00.764>to <00:31:00.905>learn <00:31:01.044>as <00:31:01.185>developers <00:31:01.325>constantly.

717
00:31:03.255 --> 00:31:03.985
<00:31:03.255>Also <00:31:03.583>new <00:31:03.911>world.