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<00:19:37.635>to <00:19:37.835>automate <00:19:38.035>tests, <00:19:38.235>you <00:19:38.435>can <00:19:38.635>do <00:19:38.835>the <00:19:39.035>auto

387
00:19:40.235 --> 00:19:41.795
<00:19:40.235>automated <00:19:40.935>documentation <00:19:41.635>too.

388
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<00:19:42.625>It's, <00:19:42.765>it's <00:19:42.905>a <00:19:43.045>great <00:19:43.185>step <00:19:43.325>maybe <00:19:43.465>to <00:19:43.605>collect, <00:19:43.745>um, <00:19:43.885>as <00:19:44.025>a,

389
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<00:19:46.195>during <00:19:46.475>the <00:19:46.754>business, <00:19:47.034>the <00:19:47.314>building <00:19:47.595>also,

390
00:19:48.415 --> 00:19:51.555
<00:19:48.415>and <00:19:48.590>the <00:19:48.764>pipelining, <00:19:48.940>start <00:19:49.115>to <00:19:49.290>collect <00:19:49.465>all <00:19:49.639>the <00:19:49.815>data,

391
00:19:51.825 --> 00:19:54.515
<00:19:51.825>make <00:19:52.025>it <00:19:52.225>automatable, <00:19:52.425>and, <00:19:52.625>uh, <00:19:52.825>support <00:19:53.025>the <00:19:53.225>team.

392
00:19:54.535 --> 00:19:57.475
<00:19:54.535>That's <00:19:54.662>one <00:19:54.789>thing. <00:19:54.916>As <00:19:55.044>a, <00:19:55.171>you <00:19:55.298>have <00:19:55.425>the <00:19:55.553>knowledge, <00:19:55.680>you <00:19:55.807>have <00:19:55.935>to,

393
00:19:57.475 --> 00:19:59.155
<00:19:57.475>you <00:19:57.615>have <00:19:57.754>the <00:19:57.895>knowledge, <00:19:58.034>you <00:19:58.175>have <00:19:58.314>the <00:19:58.455>skills <00:19:58.594>to <00:19:58.735>do <00:19:58.875>it.

394
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<00:19:59.175>That's <00:19:59.350>one <00:19:59.524>for <00:19:59.700>hint. <00:19:59.875>Please <00:20:00.050>keep <00:20:00.225>it <00:20:00.399>in <00:20:00.575>mind.

395
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<00:20:02.945>Uh, <00:20:03.061>I'm <00:20:03.178>a <00:20:03.294>tester, <00:20:03.411>so <00:20:03.528>I <00:20:03.645>would <00:20:03.761>like <00:20:03.878>to <00:20:03.995>talk <00:20:04.111>about <00:20:04.228>testing <00:20:04.345>too.

396
00:20:06.425 --> 00:20:09.485
<00:20:06.425>Uh, <00:20:06.600>I <00:20:06.774>have <00:20:06.950>two <00:20:07.125>pages <00:20:07.300>about, <00:20:07.475>uh, <00:20:07.649>quality <00:20:07.825>assurance.

397
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<00:20:10.225>And, <00:20:10.399>um, <00:20:10.574>one <00:20:10.750>challenge <00:20:10.925>is, <00:20:11.100>um, <00:20:11.274>modern <00:20:11.449>software <00:20:11.625>technology.

398
00:20:15.625 --> 00:20:18.685
<00:20:15.625>Uh, <00:20:15.780>you <00:20:15.936>do <00:20:16.091>do <00:20:16.247>the <00:20:16.402>test <00:20:16.558>doing <00:20:16.713>the, <00:20:16.869>uh, <00:20:17.025>testers

399
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<00:20:18.685>and <00:20:18.985>developers <00:20:19.284>work <00:20:19.585>together.

400
00:20:20.065 --> 00:20:23.525
<00:20:20.065>You <00:20:20.205>do <00:20:20.345>the <00:20:20.485>testing, <00:20:20.625>uh, <00:20:20.765>bit, <00:20:20.905>uh, <00:20:21.045>during <00:20:21.185>the <00:20:21.325>development, <00:20:21.465>uh,

401
00:20:23.535 --> 00:20:27.285
<00:20:23.535>shift <00:20:23.735>left, <00:20:23.935>um, <00:20:24.135>you <00:20:24.335>have, <00:20:24.535>uh, <00:20:24.735>optimize, <00:20:24.935>uh,

402
00:20:27.985 --> 00:20:29.645
<00:20:27.985>you <00:20:28.334>have <00:20:28.685>optimized <00:20:29.034>development <00:20:29.385>steps,

403
00:20:29.895 --> 00:20:31.125
<00:20:29.895>continuous <00:20:31.002>improvement.

404
00:20:31.545 --> 00:20:33.845
<00:20:31.545>You <00:20:31.825>have <00:20:32.105>retrospectives <00:20:32.385>you, <00:20:32.665>uh, <00:20:32.945>optimize,

405
00:20:33.845 --> 00:20:34.965
<00:20:33.845>uh, <00:20:34.349>daily <00:20:34.852>business.

406
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<00:20:35.625>Um, <00:20:35.800>and <00:20:35.975>on <00:20:36.150>the <00:20:36.325>other <00:20:36.500>hand, <00:20:36.675>you <00:20:36.850>have, <00:20:37.025>um,

407
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<00:20:39.985>in <00:20:40.185>the <00:20:40.385>manufacturing, <00:20:40.584>you <00:20:40.784>have <00:20:40.985>acceptance <00:20:41.185>of <00:20:41.385>products

408
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<00:20:42.805>and <00:20:43.085>production <00:20:43.365>steps <00:20:43.645>after <00:20:43.925>it's <00:20:44.205>done.

409
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<00:20:46.545>And <00:20:46.770>that's <00:20:46.995>the <00:20:47.220>challenge. <00:20:47.445>That's <00:20:47.670>the <00:20:47.895>way

410
00:20:48.065 --> 00:20:53.005
<00:20:48.065>of <00:20:48.240>engineer <00:20:48.415>thinking <00:20:48.590>a <00:20:48.765>product, <00:20:48.940>check <00:20:49.115>it, <00:20:49.290>validated <00:20:49.465>it.

411
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<00:20:54.005>Here, <00:20:54.285>we <00:20:54.565>do <00:20:54.845>it <00:20:55.125>during <00:20:55.405>production.

412
00:20:55.875 --> 00:20:59.615
<00:20:55.875>Please <00:20:56.108>bring <00:20:56.341>these <00:20:56.575>ideas <00:20:56.808>into <00:20:57.041>the <00:20:57.275>mind

413
00:20:59.675 --> 00:21:02.135
<00:20:59.675>of <00:20:59.908>the <00:21:00.141>brains <00:21:00.375>of <00:21:00.608>the, <00:21:00.841>uh, <00:21:01.075>engineers.

414
00:21:03.595 --> 00:21:05.485
<00:21:03.595>Sometimes <00:21:03.945>it's <00:21:04.295>a <00:21:04.645>challenge, <00:21:04.995>uh,

415
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<00:21:05.485>because <00:21:05.640>you <00:21:05.796>have <00:21:05.951>no <00:21:06.107>hardware, <00:21:06.262>you <00:21:06.418>need <00:21:06.573>a <00:21:06.729>special <00:21:06.885>hardware

416
00:21:08.905 --> 00:21:11.645
<00:21:08.905>to <00:21:09.138>check <00:21:09.371>the, <00:21:09.605>your <00:21:09.838>product, <00:21:10.071>your <00:21:10.305>results.

417
00:21:12.265 --> 00:21:15.725
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418
00:21:15.725 --> 00:21:16.885
<00:21:15.725>and <00:21:15.933>so <00:21:16.142>on <00:21:16.351>to <00:21:16.560>do <00:21:16.769>it.

419
00:21:17.985 --> 00:21:20.965
<00:21:17.985>And, <00:21:18.140>uh, <00:21:18.296>you <00:21:18.451>have <00:21:18.607>standard, <00:21:18.762>uh, <00:21:18.918>you <00:21:19.073>need <00:21:19.229>some <00:21:19.385>special

420
00:21:22.125 --> 00:21:23.525
<00:21:22.125>standard <00:21:22.755>testing <00:21:23.385>procedures.

421
00:21:23.745 --> 00:21:26.885
<00:21:23.745>Um, <00:21:23.919>you <00:21:24.094>have <00:21:24.270>to <00:21:24.445>test, <00:21:24.620>uh, <00:21:24.794>recording <00:21:24.969>fixed <00:21:25.145>standards.

422
00:21:27.305 --> 00:21:30.405
<00:21:27.305>So, <00:21:27.505>uh, <00:21:27.705>exporter <00:21:27.905>is <00:21:28.105>not <00:21:28.305>working, <00:21:28.505>for <00:21:28.705>example.

423
00:21:30.825 --> 00:21:33.125
<00:21:30.825>You <00:21:31.025>need, <00:21:31.225>uh, <00:21:31.425>have <00:21:31.625>some <00:21:31.825>DEF <00:21:32.025>nine <00:21:32.225>checklist,

424
00:21:33.315 --> 00:21:34.885
<00:21:33.315>some <00:21:34.015>IEE <00:21:34.715>standards.

425
00:21:35.305 --> 00:21:39.045
<00:21:35.305>You <00:21:35.505>have <00:21:35.705>to <00:21:35.905>fulfill, <00:21:36.105>prepare <00:21:36.305>testing, <00:21:36.505>uh, <00:21:36.705>procedures

426
00:21:39.065 --> 00:21:43.005
<00:21:39.065>and <00:21:39.298>so <00:21:39.531>on, <00:21:39.765>and <00:21:39.998>certifications <00:21:40.231>needed <00:21:40.465>with

427
00:21:43.945 --> 00:21:46.645
<00:21:43.945>10,000 <00:21:44.411>pages <00:21:44.878>of <00:21:45.345>documentation.

428
00:21:48.525 --> 00:21:53.215
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429
00:21:53.875 --> 00:21:57.135
<00:21:53.875>Uh, <00:21:54.050>next <00:21:54.225>one. <00:21:54.400>It's, <00:21:54.575>uh, <00:21:54.750>similar <00:21:54.925>to <00:21:55.100>this, <00:21:55.275>um,

430
00:21:59.355 --> 00:22:01.255
<00:21:59.355>the <00:21:59.635>second <00:21:59.915>page <00:22:00.195>about <00:22:00.475>quality <00:22:00.755>assurance.

431
00:22:01.255 --> 00:22:03.855
<00:22:01.255>It's, <00:22:01.721>uh, <00:22:02.188>software <00:22:02.655>tools.

432
00:22:04.155 --> 00:22:08.175
<00:22:04.155>We <00:22:04.310>have <00:22:04.466>a <00:22:04.621>lot <00:22:04.777>of <00:22:04.932>software <00:22:05.088>tools <00:22:05.243>for <00:22:05.399>testing, <00:22:05.555>selenium,

433
00:22:09.095 --> 00:22:11.535
<00:22:09.095>ux, <00:22:09.561>uh, <00:22:10.028>fluent <00:22:10.495>search,

434
00:22:11.595 --> 00:22:16.415
<00:22:11.595>and, <00:22:11.795>uh, <00:22:11.995>mock, <00:22:12.195>uh, <00:22:12.395>tons <00:22:12.595>of <00:22:12.795>libraries <00:22:12.995>developed

435
00:22:16.415 --> 00:22:18.255
<00:22:16.415>by <00:22:16.881>other <00:22:17.348>developers <00:22:17.815>prepared

436
00:22:18.255 --> 00:22:22.735
<00:22:18.255>and <00:22:18.371>open <00:22:18.488>source, <00:22:18.605>um, <00:22:18.721>which <00:22:18.838>are <00:22:18.955>able <00:22:19.071>to, <00:22:19.188>we <00:22:19.305>are <00:22:19.421>able <00:22:19.538>to <00:22:19.655>use

437
00:22:22.735 --> 00:22:23.935
<00:22:22.735>during <00:22:23.094>your <00:22:23.455>daily <00:22:23.815>business.

438
00:22:24.755 --> 00:22:28.175
<00:22:24.755>Uh, <00:22:24.882>so, <00:22:25.009>uh, <00:22:25.136>we <00:22:25.264>have <00:22:25.391>a <00:22:25.518>lot <00:22:25.645>of <00:22:25.773>things <00:22:25.900>for <00:22:26.027>different, <00:22:26.155>uh,

439
00:22:28.175 --> 00:22:31.255
<00:22:28.175>quality, <00:22:28.524>for <00:22:28.875>different <00:22:29.225>quality <00:22:29.575>criterias.

440
00:22:31.255 --> 00:22:33.215
<00:22:31.255>Yeah, <00:22:31.455>it <00:22:31.655>is <00:22:31.855>about <00:22:32.055>eight <00:22:32.255>as <00:22:32.455>a <00:22:32.655>DNA,

441
00:22:33.215 --> 00:22:35.215
<00:22:33.215>and <00:22:33.415>that's <00:22:33.615>about, <00:22:33.814>there <00:22:34.014>are <00:22:34.215>eight <00:22:34.415>quality <00:22:34.615>criterias

442
00:22:35.505 --> 00:22:37.455
<00:22:35.505>where <00:22:35.705>we <00:22:35.905>often, <00:22:36.105>we <00:22:36.305>do <00:22:36.505>only <00:22:36.705>functional <00:22:36.905>testing,

443
00:22:38.355 --> 00:22:42.895
<00:22:38.355>but <00:22:38.530>there <00:22:38.705>are <00:22:38.880>some <00:22:39.055>quality <00:22:39.230>like <00:22:39.405>usability, <00:22:39.580>stability, <00:22:39.755>uh,

444
00:22:42.955 --> 00:22:44.975
<00:22:42.955>us <00:22:43.129>please <00:22:43.304>keep <00:22:43.480>in <00:22:43.655>mind <00:22:43.830>as, <00:22:44.004>so <00:22:44.179>that's, <00:22:44.355>uh,

445
00:22:44.975 --> 00:22:46.655
<00:22:44.975>some <00:22:45.208>additional <00:22:45.441>knowledge <00:22:45.675>I <00:22:45.908>want <00:22:46.141>to <00:22:46.375>share.

446
00:22:46.955 --> 00:22:50.935
<00:22:46.955>So <00:22:47.110>we <00:22:47.266>have, <00:22:47.421>uh, <00:22:47.577>tools <00:22:47.732>for <00:22:47.888>interface <00:22:48.043>testing, <00:22:48.199>postman, <00:22:48.355>um,

447
00:22:51.655 --> 00:22:53.255
<00:22:51.655>ling <00:22:51.888>for <00:22:52.121>performance <00:22:52.355>things <00:22:52.588>and <00:22:52.821>so <00:22:53.055>on.

448
00:22:53.555 --> 00:22:55.525
<00:22:53.555>So, <00:22:54.255>um, <00:22:54.955>test.

449
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<00:22:56.025>So <00:22:56.141>we <00:22:56.258>have, <00:22:56.375>uh, <00:22:56.491>own <00:22:56.608>and <00:22:56.725>we <00:22:56.841>can <00:22:56.958>build <00:22:57.075>our, <00:22:57.191>own, <00:22:57.308>our <00:22:57.425>to

450
00:22:58.365 --> 00:23:02.325
<00:22:58.365>and <00:22:58.540>test <00:22:58.715>environment <00:22:58.890>via <00:22:59.065>Docker, <00:22:59.240>VM <00:22:59.415>and <00:22:59.590>so <00:22:59.765>on.

451
00:23:02.325 --> 00:23:03.965
<00:23:02.325>It's <00:23:02.558>very <00:23:02.791>easy. <00:23:03.025>We <00:23:03.258>could <00:23:03.491>copy <00:23:03.725>it.

452
00:23:04.065 --> 00:23:07.445
<00:23:04.065>That's <00:23:04.265>very, <00:23:04.465>uh, <00:23:04.665>it's <00:23:04.865>simple. <00:23:05.065>It's, <00:23:05.265>it's <00:23:05.465>easy.

453
00:23:08.255 --> 00:23:12.595
<00:23:08.255>On <00:23:08.395>the <00:23:08.535>other <00:23:08.675>hand <00:23:08.815>here <00:23:08.955>we <00:23:09.095>have, <00:23:09.235>we <00:23:09.375>need <00:23:09.515>a <00:23:09.655>hardware,

454
00:23:12.615 --> 00:23:13.675
<00:23:12.615>and <00:23:12.805>so <00:23:12.996>we <00:23:13.187>need <00:23:13.378>a <00:23:13.569>hardware.

455
00:23:13.675 --> 00:23:15.435
<00:23:13.675>It's <00:23:13.850>very <00:23:14.024>often <00:23:14.200>if <00:23:14.375>we <00:23:14.550>want <00:23:14.725>to <00:23:14.899>test <00:23:15.075>it,

456
00:23:15.435 --> 00:23:18.555
<00:23:15.435>we <00:23:15.590>need <00:23:15.746>a <00:23:15.901>special <00:23:16.057>test <00:23:16.212>bed <00:23:16.368>laboratories <00:23:16.523>where <00:23:16.679>we <00:23:16.835>have

457
00:23:18.555 --> 00:23:22.035
<00:23:18.555>to <00:23:18.710>put <00:23:18.866>in <00:23:19.021>device <00:23:19.177>with <00:23:19.332>connect, <00:23:19.488>uh, <00:23:19.643>with <00:23:19.799>the <00:23:19.955>interfaces

458
00:23:22.055 --> 00:23:26.115
<00:23:22.055>and, <00:23:22.210>uh, <00:23:22.366>outputs <00:23:22.521>and <00:23:22.677>to <00:23:22.832>check <00:23:22.988>it <00:23:23.143>via <00:23:23.299>special <00:23:23.455>conditions

459
00:23:26.495 --> 00:23:27.995
<00:23:26.495>and <00:23:26.945>special <00:23:27.395>test <00:23:27.844>procedures.

460
00:23:28.415 --> 00:23:30.675
<00:23:28.415>So <00:23:29.115>it's, <00:23:29.815>uh,

461
00:23:30.735 --> 00:23:33.635
<00:23:30.735>and <00:23:30.968>these <00:23:31.201>are <00:23:31.435>prepared <00:23:31.668>test <00:23:31.901>environments <00:23:32.135>here.

462
00:23:33.865 --> 00:23:35.555
<00:23:33.865>This <00:23:34.215>were <00:23:34.565>prepared <00:23:34.915>test <00:23:35.265>environments

463
00:23:35.855 --> 00:23:38.115
<00:23:35.855>and, <00:23:36.205>uh, <00:23:36.555>from <00:23:36.905>special <00:23:37.255>companies.

464
00:23:38.115 --> 00:23:39.595
<00:23:38.115>And <00:23:38.305>so <00:23:38.495>we <00:23:38.685>have <00:23:38.876>no, <00:23:39.066>not <00:23:39.256>so <00:23:39.447>flexible.

465
00:23:40.815 --> 00:23:42.755
<00:23:40.815>And <00:23:40.990>in <00:23:41.165>the <00:23:41.340>end, <00:23:41.515>we <00:23:41.690>need, <00:23:41.865>uh, <00:23:42.040>some <00:23:42.215>certification.

466
00:23:42.815 --> 00:23:44.955
<00:23:42.815>Uh, <00:23:43.015>and <00:23:43.215>sometimes <00:23:43.415>very <00:23:43.615>often <00:23:43.815>if <00:23:44.015>we <00:23:44.215>do,

467
00:23:45.045 --> 00:23:46.205
<00:23:45.045>we <00:23:45.306>need <00:23:45.567>this <00:23:45.828>test <00:23:46.089>environments.

468
00:23:46.225 --> 00:23:48.085
<00:23:46.225>We <00:23:46.380>need <00:23:46.536>to <00:23:46.691>sort <00:23:46.847>of, <00:23:47.002>we <00:23:47.158>need <00:23:47.313>to <00:23:47.469>prepare <00:23:47.625>it.

469
00:23:48.425 --> 00:23:50.245
<00:23:48.425>So <00:23:48.625>you <00:23:48.825>have <00:23:49.024>to <00:23:49.225>follow <00:23:49.425>some <00:23:49.625>special <00:23:49.825>standards,

470
00:23:50.465 --> 00:23:52.165
<00:23:50.465>and <00:23:50.698>we <00:23:50.931>need <00:23:51.165>some <00:23:51.398>certification <00:23:51.631>of <00:23:51.865>it.

471
00:23:52.425 --> 00:23:55.725
<00:23:52.425>And <00:23:52.552>our <00:23:52.679>testers <00:23:52.806>too, <00:23:52.934>as <00:23:53.061>I <00:23:53.188>said, <00:23:53.315>it's <00:23:53.443>very <00:23:53.570>so, <00:23:53.697>and, <00:23:53.825>um,

472
00:23:56.305 --> 00:23:58.925
<00:23:56.305>and <00:23:56.480>if <00:23:56.655>we <00:23:56.830>want <00:23:57.005>to <00:23:57.180>join <00:23:57.355>as <00:23:57.530>a <00:23:57.705>developer,

473
00:23:58.985 --> 00:24:02.985
<00:23:58.985>the <00:23:59.159>hardware <00:23:59.334>development, <00:23:59.510>we <00:23:59.685>need <00:23:59.860>the <00:24:00.034>hardware <00:24:00.209>very <00:24:00.385>often.

474
00:24:03.365 --> 00:24:04.425
<00:24:03.365>And <00:24:03.603>if <00:24:03.842>it's <00:24:04.080>not <00:24:04.319>there,

475
00:24:06.285 --> 00:24:09.265
<00:24:06.285>how <00:24:06.412>we <00:24:06.539>could <00:24:06.666>handle <00:24:06.794>a <00:24:06.921>unit <00:24:07.048>test <00:24:07.175>in <00:24:07.303>the <00:24:07.430>nightly <00:24:07.557>build <00:24:07.685>without

476
00:24:09.465 --> 00:24:10.785
<00:24:09.465>hardware, <00:24:09.702>as <00:24:09.940>is <00:24:10.177>there <00:24:10.415>something <00:24:10.653>there?

477
00:24:10.785 --> 00:24:13.945
<00:24:10.785>Who's <00:24:10.925>starting <00:24:11.065>and <00:24:11.205>in <00:24:11.345>the <00:24:11.485>night <00:24:11.625>as <00:24:11.765>a <00:24:11.905>who, <00:24:12.045>uh, <00:24:12.185>yeah,

478
00:24:13.945 --> 00:24:16.425
<00:24:13.945>maybe <00:24:14.072>some <00:24:14.199>of <00:24:14.326>you <00:24:14.454>of <00:24:14.581>the <00:24:14.708>team <00:24:14.835>is, <00:24:14.963>needs <00:24:15.090>to <00:24:15.217>wake, <00:24:15.345>uh,

479
00:24:16.425 --> 00:24:18.265
<00:24:16.425>wake <00:24:16.625>up <00:24:16.825>at <00:24:17.024>night <00:24:17.225>and <00:24:17.425>starts <00:24:17.625>the <00:24:17.825>machine,

480
00:24:18.285 --> 00:24:20.905
<00:24:18.285>or, <00:24:18.425>uh, <00:24:18.565>move <00:24:18.705>it <00:24:18.845>back <00:24:18.985>to <00:24:19.125>a <00:24:19.265>special <00:24:19.405>condition <00:24:19.545>or <00:24:19.685>something.

481
00:24:20.905 --> 00:24:23.985
<00:24:20.905>I <00:24:21.045>dunno. <00:24:21.185>So, <00:24:21.325>so <00:24:21.465>I, <00:24:21.605>a <00:24:21.745>simulation, <00:24:21.885>it's <00:24:22.024>a <00:24:22.165>good <00:24:22.305>idea.

482
00:24:24.165 --> 00:24:26.385
<00:24:24.165>So, <00:24:24.365>but, <00:24:24.565>uh, <00:24:24.764>you <00:24:24.965>are <00:24:25.165>the <00:24:25.365>only <00:24:25.565>one

483
00:24:26.385 --> 00:24:28.465
<00:24:26.385>as <00:24:26.525>developers <00:24:26.665>are <00:24:26.805>the <00:24:26.945>only <00:24:27.085>one <00:24:27.225>who <00:24:27.365>could <00:24:27.504>do <00:24:27.645>the <00:24:27.785>simulation.

484
00:24:28.465 --> 00:24:31.105
<00:24:28.465>So <00:24:28.639>write <00:24:28.814>down <00:24:28.990>your <00:24:29.165>simulation, <00:24:29.340>uh, <00:24:29.514>on <00:24:29.689>your <00:24:29.865>own

485
00:24:31.105 --> 00:24:32.625
<00:24:31.105>to <00:24:31.378>support <00:24:31.652>your <00:24:31.925>own <00:24:32.199>daily <00:24:32.473>business.

486
00:24:33.485 --> 00:24:34.545
<00:24:33.485>And <00:24:33.723>that's <00:24:33.962>the <00:24:34.200>last <00:24:34.439>page.

487
00:24:34.935 --> 00:24:38.345
<00:24:34.935>It's <00:24:35.090>a <00:24:35.246>summary <00:24:35.401>of <00:24:35.557>our <00:24:35.712>some <00:24:35.868>ideas, <00:24:36.023>some <00:24:36.179>conclusions, <00:24:36.335>uh,

488
00:24:38.345 --> 00:24:41.385
<00:24:38.345>to <00:24:38.485>support <00:24:38.625>you <00:24:38.765>as <00:24:38.905>a, <00:24:39.045>to, <00:24:39.185>um, <00:24:39.325>give <00:24:39.465>you <00:24:39.605>some <00:24:39.745>hints.

489
00:24:41.635 --> 00:24:44.785
<00:24:41.635>First <00:24:41.835>is, <00:24:42.035>I <00:24:42.235>already <00:24:42.435>mentioned, <00:24:42.635>uh, <00:24:42.835>customer <00:24:43.035>value,

490
00:24:45.105 --> 00:24:47.745
<00:24:45.105>hardware <00:24:45.232>value, <00:24:45.359>you <00:24:45.486>have <00:24:45.614>to <00:24:45.741>keep <00:24:45.868>in, <00:24:45.995>if <00:24:46.123>you <00:24:46.250>start <00:24:46.377>to <00:24:46.505>program

491
00:24:47.885 --> 00:24:49.945
<00:24:47.885>for <00:24:48.118>hardware, <00:24:48.351>you <00:24:48.585>need <00:24:48.818>to <00:24:49.051>keep <00:24:49.285>the,

492
00:24:50.125 --> 00:24:51.385
<00:24:50.125>the <00:24:50.503>hardware's <00:24:50.881>always <00:24:51.259>right

493
00:24:51.805 --> 00:24:54.545
<00:24:51.805>and <00:24:51.960>you <00:24:52.116>need, <00:24:52.271>uh, <00:24:52.427>to, <00:24:52.582>uh, <00:24:52.738>work <00:24:52.893>with <00:24:53.049>the <00:24:53.205>hardware

494
00:24:54.545 --> 00:24:55.705
<00:24:54.545>and <00:24:54.806>to <00:24:55.067>understand <00:24:55.328>the <00:24:55.589>hardware.

495
00:24:56.165 --> 00:24:59.465
<00:24:56.165>But, <00:24:56.398>um, <00:24:56.631>as <00:24:56.865>a <00:24:57.098>software <00:24:57.331>and <00:24:57.565>hardware,

496
00:24:59.525 --> 00:25:02.785
<00:24:59.525>but <00:24:59.700>both <00:24:59.875>are <00:25:00.050>equal, <00:25:00.225>not <00:25:00.400>the <00:25:00.575>engineers <00:25:00.750>are <00:25:00.925>better,

497
00:25:02.845 --> 00:25:03.945
<00:25:02.845>not <00:25:03.092>the <00:25:03.340>developers <00:25:03.587>are <00:25:03.835>better.

498
00:25:04.215 --> 00:25:06.905
<00:25:04.215>Both <00:25:04.448>are <00:25:04.681>equal. <00:25:04.915>And <00:25:05.148>very <00:25:05.381>often, <00:25:05.615>uh,

499
00:25:07.085 --> 00:25:09.825
<00:25:07.085>the <00:25:07.225>business <00:25:07.365>value <00:25:07.505>becomes <00:25:07.645>as <00:25:07.785>you <00:25:07.925>add <00:25:08.065>a <00:25:08.205>lot <00:25:08.345>of <00:25:08.485>software

500
00:25:09.825 --> 00:25:11.425
<00:25:09.825>to <00:25:10.058>it, <00:25:10.291>to <00:25:10.525>add <00:25:10.758>more <00:25:10.991>business <00:25:11.225>value.

501
00:25:11.525 --> 00:25:13.865
<00:25:11.525>So <00:25:11.700>it <00:25:11.875>software <00:25:12.050>will <00:25:12.225>be <00:25:12.400>more <00:25:12.575>and <00:25:12.750>more <00:25:12.925>important.

502
00:25:14.365 --> 00:25:17.345
<00:25:14.365>So, <00:25:14.540>and <00:25:14.715>you <00:25:14.890>need <00:25:15.065>a <00:25:15.240>holistic <00:25:15.415>quality <00:25:15.590>assurance <00:25:15.765>approach

503
00:25:17.345 --> 00:25:20.465
<00:25:17.345>for <00:25:17.485>both, <00:25:17.625>not <00:25:17.765>only <00:25:17.905>to <00:25:18.045>test <00:25:18.185>at <00:25:18.325>the <00:25:18.465>late, <00:25:18.605>uh, <00:25:18.745>the,

504
00:25:20.465 --> 00:25:24.065
<00:25:20.465>as <00:25:20.605>on <00:25:20.745>the <00:25:20.885>last <00:25:21.024>step, <00:25:21.165>acceptance, <00:25:21.304>please <00:25:21.445>try <00:25:21.584>to <00:25:21.725>shift <00:25:21.865>left.

505
00:25:26.455 --> 00:25:29.445
<00:25:26.455>Focus <00:25:26.610>on <00:25:26.766>quality <00:25:26.921>as <00:25:27.077>all <00:25:27.232>are <00:25:27.388>responsible <00:25:27.543>for <00:25:27.699>the <00:25:27.855>quality.

506
00:25:29.585 --> 00:25:32.325
<00:25:29.585>Not <00:25:29.818>only <00:25:30.051>the <00:25:30.285>testers, <00:25:30.518>developers, <00:25:30.751>engineers <00:25:30.985>two,

507
00:25:32.665 --> 00:25:35.445
<00:25:32.665>do <00:25:32.840>a <00:25:33.014>shift <00:25:33.190>left, <00:25:33.365>approach, <00:25:33.540>two <00:25:33.715>unit <00:25:33.889>testing, <00:25:34.065>explain

508
00:25:35.545 --> 00:25:37.405
<00:25:35.545>to <00:25:35.778>the <00:25:36.011>engineers <00:25:36.245>what's <00:25:36.478>unit <00:25:36.711>testing <00:25:36.945>about.

509
00:25:37.955 --> 00:25:41.125
<00:25:37.955>It's <00:25:38.095>not <00:25:38.235>easier. <00:25:38.375>It <00:25:38.514>don't <00:25:38.655>bite <00:25:38.794>you <00:25:38.935>as, <00:25:39.074>so <00:25:39.215>it's, <00:25:39.355>uh,

510
00:25:41.125 --> 00:25:42.445
<00:25:41.125>integr <00:25:41.422>integration <00:25:41.719>as <00:25:42.015>do <00:25:42.312>it.

511
00:25:43.385 --> 00:25:45.285
<00:25:43.385>Um, <00:25:43.851>professional <00:25:44.318>software <00:25:44.785>development.

512
00:25:47.035 --> 00:25:51.005
<00:25:47.035>Very <00:25:47.162>often <00:25:47.289>the <00:25:47.416>first <00:25:47.544>step <00:25:47.671>for <00:25:47.798>developer <00:25:47.925>has <00:25:48.053>a <00:25:48.180>big <00:25:48.307>step, <00:25:48.435>uh,

513
00:25:51.005 --> 00:25:54.605
<00:25:51.005>to <00:25:51.205>the <00:25:51.405>future <00:25:51.605>is <00:25:51.805>to <00:25:52.005>integrate <00:25:52.205>Kip <00:25:52.405>branches

514
00:25:54.745 --> 00:25:56.285
<00:25:54.745>and <00:25:55.022>pull <00:25:55.299>requests <00:25:55.576>into <00:25:55.853>a <00:25:56.131>project.

515
00:25:56.985 --> 00:25:58.885
<00:25:56.985>And <00:25:57.218>one, <00:25:57.451>like <00:25:57.685>that's, <00:25:57.918>but <00:25:58.151>it's <00:25:58.385>needed.

516
00:25:59.025 --> 00:26:02.245
<00:25:59.025>So <00:25:59.180>please <00:25:59.336>share <00:25:59.491>your <00:25:59.647>knowledge, <00:25:59.802>explain <00:25:59.958>it <00:26:00.113>to <00:26:00.269>the <00:26:00.425>colleagues

517
00:26:02.265 --> 00:26:03.365
<00:26:02.265>and <00:26:02.595>say <00:26:02.925>it's <00:26:03.255>necessary.

518
00:26:03.945 --> 00:26:05.285
<00:26:03.945>And <00:26:04.246>think <00:26:04.548>about <00:26:04.849>code <00:26:05.151>quality.

519
00:26:05.615 --> 00:26:09.955
<00:26:05.615>Sonar, <00:26:05.815>cube <00:26:06.015>is <00:26:06.215>things <00:26:06.415>like <00:26:06.615>that, <00:26:06.815>your <00:26:07.015>developer,

520
00:26:10.815 --> 00:26:13.555
<00:26:10.815>you <00:26:10.990>are <00:26:11.165>able <00:26:11.340>to, <00:26:11.515>uh, <00:26:11.690>if <00:26:11.865>it's <00:26:12.040>needed, <00:26:12.215>right?

521
00:26:13.625 --> 00:26:18.395
<00:26:13.625>Test <00:26:13.858>generators, <00:26:14.091>simulators, <00:26:14.325>uh, <00:26:14.558>write <00:26:14.791>down <00:26:15.025>as,

522
00:26:19.055 --> 00:26:20.955
<00:26:19.055>uh, <00:26:19.335>develop <00:26:19.615>some <00:26:19.895>tools, <00:26:20.175>additional <00:26:20.455>tools

523
00:26:21.015 --> 00:26:22.355
<00:26:21.015>to <00:26:21.316>support <00:26:21.618>your <00:26:21.919>daily <00:26:22.221>business.

524
00:26:22.655 --> 00:26:26.395
<00:26:22.655>If <00:26:22.782>there <00:26:22.909>are <00:26:23.036>no <00:26:23.164>hardware <00:26:23.291>or <00:26:23.418>you <00:26:23.545>it's <00:26:23.673>needed, <00:26:23.800>please <00:26:23.927>do <00:26:24.055>it.

525
00:26:27.175 --> 00:26:30.595
<00:26:27.175>And, <00:26:27.375>um, <00:26:27.575>one <00:26:27.774>thing <00:26:27.975>I <00:26:28.175>recognize, <00:26:28.375>it's, <00:26:28.575>uh,

526
00:26:31.215 --> 00:26:35.875
<00:26:31.215>we <00:26:31.342>are <00:26:31.469>providing <00:26:31.596>an <00:26:31.724>external <00:26:31.851>API <00:26:31.978>for <00:26:32.105>our <00:26:32.233>p <00:26:32.360>web <00:26:32.487>to, <00:26:32.615>uh,

527
00:26:35.975 --> 00:26:38.075
<00:26:35.975>con <00:26:36.254>connect, <00:26:36.534>uh, <00:26:36.814>news, <00:26:37.094>uh, <00:26:37.375>hardware

528
00:26:38.255 --> 00:26:39.635
<00:26:38.255>or <00:26:38.669>other <00:26:39.083>hardware <00:26:39.497>solutions.

529
00:26:40.855 --> 00:26:43.645
<00:26:40.855>But <00:26:41.088>these <00:26:41.321>ideas <00:26:41.555>of <00:26:41.788>open <00:26:42.021>source <00:26:42.255>usage

530
00:26:44.065 --> 00:26:46.485
<00:26:44.065>and <00:26:44.298>sharing <00:26:44.531>with <00:26:44.765>the <00:26:44.998>community, <00:26:45.231>it's <00:26:45.465>not

531
00:26:46.485 --> 00:26:48.845
<00:26:46.485>so <00:26:46.685>common <00:26:46.885>in <00:26:47.084>the <00:26:47.284>old <00:26:47.485>fashioned <00:26:47.685>factor <00:26:47.885>industry.

532
00:26:49.435 --> 00:26:52.205
<00:26:49.435>It's <00:26:49.590>maybe <00:26:49.746>sometimes <00:26:49.901>a <00:26:50.057>good <00:26:50.212>idea <00:26:50.368>to <00:26:50.523>share <00:26:50.679>your <00:26:50.835>results

533
00:26:52.235 --> 00:26:56.645
<00:26:52.235>with <00:26:52.409>the <00:26:52.584>world, <00:26:52.760>um, <00:26:52.935>and, <00:26:53.110>uh, <00:26:53.284>alignment <00:26:53.459>of <00:26:53.635>research.

534
00:26:56.875 --> 00:26:58.445
<00:26:56.875>Yeah. <00:26:57.155>And <00:26:57.435>that's <00:26:57.715>the <00:26:57.995>biggest <00:26:58.275>challenge,

535
00:26:58.585 --> 00:26:59.845
<00:26:58.585>and <00:26:58.774>that's <00:26:58.963>one <00:26:59.152>of <00:26:59.341>the <00:26:59.530>biggest <00:26:59.719>challenge

536
00:26:59.985 --> 00:27:01.845
<00:26:59.985>for <00:27:00.334>engineers <00:27:00.685>and <00:27:01.034>for <00:27:01.385>developers.

537
00:27:02.435 --> 00:27:05.315
<00:27:02.435>Talk <00:27:02.784>with <00:27:03.135>each <00:27:03.485>others <00:27:03.835>community.

538
00:27:05.485 --> 00:27:07.035
<00:27:05.485>Share <00:27:05.833>your <00:27:06.182>knowledge, <00:27:06.531>share <00:27:06.880>your

539
00:27:07.035 --> 00:27:08.515
<00:27:07.035>experiences, <00:27:07.479>share <00:27:07.923>your <00:27:08.367>needs.

540
00:27:09.295 --> 00:27:11.995
<00:27:09.295>Uh, <00:27:09.495>do <00:27:09.695>as <00:27:09.895>a, <00:27:10.095>that's <00:27:10.295>what <00:27:10.495>funny, <00:27:10.695>uh,

541
00:27:11.995 --> 00:27:13.635
<00:27:11.995>quality <00:27:12.461>assurance, <00:27:12.928>it's <00:27:13.395>question.

542
00:27:13.775 --> 00:27:16.035
<00:27:13.775>Ask <00:27:13.950>us <00:27:14.125>as <00:27:14.300>that's <00:27:14.475>what <00:27:14.650>we <00:27:14.825>are <00:27:15.000>testers <00:27:15.175>about.

543
00:27:16.215 --> 00:27:19.675
<00:27:16.215>As <00:27:16.415>a <00:27:16.615>ask <00:27:16.814>questions, <00:27:17.014>share <00:27:17.215>your <00:27:17.415>knowledge, <00:27:17.615>talk

544
00:27:19.675 --> 00:27:22.675
<00:27:19.675>to <00:27:19.850>each <00:27:20.024>other, <00:27:20.200>do <00:27:20.375>workshops, <00:27:20.550>uh, <00:27:20.725>share <00:27:20.899>the <00:27:21.075>ideas

545
00:27:22.695 --> 00:27:25.715
<00:27:22.695>of <00:27:22.928>some <00:27:23.161>new <00:27:23.395>implementations, <00:27:23.628>uh, <00:27:23.861>some <00:27:24.095>improvements.

546
00:27:26.175 --> 00:27:29.275
<00:27:26.175>And <00:27:26.350>so <00:27:26.524>it's <00:27:26.700>all <00:27:26.875>about, <00:27:27.050>and <00:27:27.225>understand <00:27:27.399>each <00:27:27.575>other.

547
00:27:29.335 --> 00:27:31.715
<00:27:29.335>You <00:27:29.535>have <00:27:29.735>some, <00:27:29.935>it's <00:27:30.135>a <00:27:30.335>clash <00:27:30.535>of <00:27:30.735>cultures.

548
00:27:31.715 --> 00:27:33.355
<00:27:31.715>You <00:27:31.995>have <00:27:32.274>different <00:27:32.554>ways, <00:27:32.834>different <00:27:33.115>backgrounds.

549
00:27:33.695 --> 00:27:35.755
<00:27:33.695>You <00:27:33.928>need <00:27:34.161>to <00:27:34.395>understand <00:27:34.628>each <00:27:34.861>other. <00:27:35.095>Yeah.

550
00:27:36.055 --> 00:27:39.475
<00:27:36.055>And <00:27:36.521>that's <00:27:36.988>all <00:27:37.455>good.

551
00:27:41.975 --> 00:27:44.755
<00:27:41.975>Mm-Hmm. <00:27:42.324>So <00:27:42.675>we <00:27:43.024>have, <00:27:43.375>uh,

552
00:27:44.975 --> 00:27:46.795
<00:27:44.975>two <00:27:45.324>questions <00:27:45.675>from <00:27:46.024>the <00:27:46.375>audience.

553
00:27:46.795 --> 00:27:47.955
<00:27:46.795>Yeah. <00:27:47.143>Uh, <00:27:47.491>so <00:27:47.839>you

554
00:27:47.955 --> 00:27:48.955
<00:27:47.955>Can <00:27:48.179>Yeah. <00:27:48.405>Check <00:27:48.629>them <00:27:48.855>out.

555
00:27:48.955 --> 00:27:51.995
<00:27:48.955>Well, <00:27:49.155>you <00:27:49.355>talk, <00:27:49.554>uh, <00:27:49.754>uh, <00:27:49.955>you <00:27:50.155>talked <00:27:50.355>here,

556
00:27:51.995 --> 00:27:53.555
<00:27:51.995>in <00:27:52.274>my <00:27:52.554>opinion, <00:27:52.834>about <00:27:53.114>European <00:27:53.395>ancy,

557
00:27:53.555 --> 00:27:55.235
<00:27:53.555>but <00:27:53.788>how <00:27:54.021>is <00:27:54.255>the <00:27:54.488>thinking <00:27:54.721>companies <00:27:54.955>like

558
00:27:55.235 --> 00:27:56.475
<00:27:55.235>Tesla <00:27:55.607>managed <00:27:55.978>these <00:27:56.351>things?

559
00:27:57.135 --> 00:28:01.515
<00:27:57.135>Uh, <00:27:57.275>I <00:27:57.415>don't <00:27:57.555>know, <00:27:57.695>uh, <00:27:57.835>Tesla, <00:27:57.975>but, <00:27:58.115>um, <00:27:58.254>it's <00:27:58.395>software <00:27:58.535>driven,

560
00:28:01.775 --> 00:28:03.635
<00:28:01.775>and, <00:28:01.950>uh, <00:28:02.125>maybe <00:28:02.300>they <00:28:02.475>have <00:28:02.650>to <00:28:02.825>talk <00:28:03.000>each <00:28:03.175>other

561
00:28:03.635 --> 00:28:04.835
<00:28:03.635>because <00:28:03.905>I <00:28:04.175>know <00:28:04.445>the <00:28:04.715>results.

562
00:28:05.335 --> 00:28:08.155
<00:28:05.335>And <00:28:05.568>that's <00:28:05.801>about, <00:28:06.035>uh, <00:28:06.268>the, <00:28:06.501>the <00:28:06.735>frames

563
00:28:08.175 --> 00:28:10.995
<00:28:08.175>or <00:28:08.330>the, <00:28:08.486>the, <00:28:08.641>the, <00:28:08.797>the <00:28:08.952>challenges, <00:28:09.108>uh, <00:28:09.263>for <00:28:09.419>the <00:28:09.575>hardware,

564
00:28:10.995 --> 00:28:13.995
<00:28:10.995>because <00:28:11.135>it's <00:28:11.274>not <00:28:11.415>on <00:28:11.554>the <00:28:11.695>same <00:28:11.834>accuracy <00:28:11.975>like <00:28:12.114>in <00:28:12.254>the, <00:28:12.395>uh,

565
00:28:14.955 --> 00:28:16.355
<00:28:14.955>I <00:28:15.270>expected <00:28:15.585>from <00:28:15.900>a <00:28:16.215>car.

566
00:28:16.935 --> 00:28:19.475
<00:28:16.935>So, <00:28:17.284>uh, <00:28:17.635>the, <00:28:17.985>the, <00:28:18.335>um,

567
00:28:20.175 --> 00:28:22.555
<00:28:20.175>the <00:28:20.330>main <00:28:20.486>focus <00:28:20.641>is <00:28:20.797>on <00:28:20.952>the <00:28:21.108>software, <00:28:21.263>not <00:28:21.419>the <00:28:21.575>hardware.

568
00:28:22.935 --> 00:28:25.275
<00:28:22.935>You <00:28:23.110>need <00:28:23.284>to <00:28:23.460>integrate <00:28:23.635>both <00:28:23.810>and <00:28:23.985>understand <00:28:24.159>each <00:28:24.335>other.

569
00:28:25.855 --> 00:28:28.815
<00:28:25.855>And <00:28:26.055>maybe <00:28:26.255>the <00:28:26.455>challenge <00:28:26.655>is, <00:28:26.855>uh, <00:28:27.055>they <00:28:27.255>started

570
00:28:28.815 --> 00:28:31.295
<00:28:28.815>with <00:28:28.990>the <00:28:29.165>software <00:28:29.340>and <00:28:29.515>miss <00:28:29.690>the, <00:28:29.865>uh, <00:28:30.040>the <00:28:30.215>engineers.

571
00:28:31.315 --> 00:28:35.095
<00:28:31.315>And <00:28:31.442>very <00:28:31.569>often <00:28:31.696>when <00:28:31.824>I, <00:28:31.951>uh, <00:28:32.078>the <00:28:32.205>companies <00:28:32.333>I, <00:28:32.460>uh, <00:28:32.587>know, <00:28:32.715>uh,

572
00:28:35.195 --> 00:28:37.855
<00:28:35.195>the <00:28:35.428>drivers <00:28:35.661>or <00:28:35.895>the, <00:28:36.128>or <00:28:36.361>the <00:28:36.595>engineers

573
00:28:37.855 --> 00:28:39.775
<00:28:37.855>and <00:28:38.010>the <00:28:38.166>software <00:28:38.321>say, <00:28:38.477>oh, <00:28:38.632>now <00:28:38.788>you're <00:28:38.943>the <00:28:39.099>software <00:28:39.255>guys.

574
00:28:39.805 --> 00:28:42.495
<00:28:39.805>They <00:28:39.932>have <00:28:40.059>no, <00:28:40.186>so <00:28:40.314>you <00:28:40.441>have <00:28:40.568>to <00:28:40.695>be <00:28:40.823>on <00:28:40.950>the <00:28:41.077>same <00:28:41.205>level

575
00:28:43.355 --> 00:28:45.095
<00:28:43.355>and <00:28:43.635>to, <00:28:43.915>you <00:28:44.195>have <00:28:44.475>to, <00:28:44.755>uh,

576
00:28:45.195 --> 00:28:48.775
<00:28:45.195>and <00:28:45.350>that's, <00:28:45.506>uh, <00:28:45.661>very <00:28:45.817>important <00:28:45.972>as <00:28:46.128>also <00:28:46.283>you <00:28:46.439>need <00:28:46.595>all,

577
00:28:48.775 --> 00:28:50.695
<00:28:48.775>both <00:28:48.975>needs <00:28:49.175>to <00:28:49.375>be <00:28:49.575>the <00:28:49.775>driver <00:28:49.975>for <00:28:50.175>quality.

578
00:28:51.395 --> 00:28:53.815
<00:28:51.395>Uh, <00:28:51.570>so <00:28:51.745>you <00:28:51.920>have <00:28:52.095>to <00:28:52.270>get <00:28:52.445>the <00:28:52.620>right <00:28:52.795>results.

579
00:28:54.525 --> 00:28:56.335
<00:28:54.525>Virtual <00:28:54.875>commission <00:28:55.225>is <00:28:55.575>a <00:28:55.925>solution.

580
00:28:56.375 --> 00:28:58.415
<00:28:56.375>I <00:28:56.575>mean, <00:28:56.775>hotware <00:28:56.975>software <00:28:57.175>in <00:28:57.375>the <00:28:57.575>loop <00:28:57.775>simulation.

581
00:28:59.475 --> 00:29:03.925
<00:28:59.475>Um, <00:28:59.754>But <00:29:00.034>you <00:29:00.314>need <00:29:00.594>the <00:29:00.875>simulator.

582
00:29:04.065 --> 00:29:06.525
<00:29:04.065>If <00:29:04.205>you <00:29:04.345>want <00:29:04.485>to <00:29:04.625>do <00:29:04.765>the <00:29:04.905>simulation, <00:29:05.045>you <00:29:05.185>need <00:29:05.325>the <00:29:05.465>simulator.

583
00:29:06.985 --> 00:29:09.845
<00:29:06.985>And <00:29:07.140>that's <00:29:07.296>the <00:29:07.451>challenge. <00:29:07.607>If <00:29:07.762>you <00:29:07.918>have <00:29:08.073>about <00:29:08.229>early, <00:29:08.385>um,

584
00:29:09.865 --> 00:29:13.005
<00:29:09.865>if <00:29:10.005>you <00:29:10.145>think <00:29:10.285>about <00:29:10.425>the <00:29:10.565>factory <00:29:10.705>I <00:29:10.845>mentioned, <00:29:10.985>it's <00:29:11.125>only <00:29:11.265>once

585
00:29:13.525 --> 00:29:18.205
<00:29:13.525>existing, <00:29:13.700>you <00:29:13.875>write <00:29:14.050>a <00:29:14.225>simulator, <00:29:14.400>uh, <00:29:14.575>takes <00:29:14.750>maybe <00:29:14.925>one,

586
00:29:18.225 --> 00:29:22.285
<00:29:18.225>two <00:29:18.399>millions <00:29:18.574>for, <00:29:18.750>uh, <00:29:18.925>only <00:29:19.100>one <00:29:19.274>as, <00:29:19.449>so, <00:29:19.625>uh,

587
00:29:22.355 --> 00:29:24.085
<00:29:22.355>very <00:29:22.588>often <00:29:22.821>this <00:29:23.055>is <00:29:23.288>a <00:29:23.521>challenge <00:29:23.755>to,

588
00:29:24.345 --> 00:29:27.685
<00:29:24.345>or <00:29:24.461>to <00:29:24.578>get <00:29:24.695>the <00:29:24.811>money <00:29:24.928>for <00:29:25.045>the <00:29:25.161>simulator <00:29:25.278>as <00:29:25.395>a <00:29:25.511>very <00:29:25.628>often, <00:29:25.745>uh,

589
00:29:27.685 --> 00:29:32.045
<00:29:27.685>to, <00:29:27.840>if <00:29:27.996>you <00:29:28.151>want <00:29:28.307>this, <00:29:28.462>uh, <00:29:28.618>simulator, <00:29:28.773>this <00:29:28.929>digital <00:29:29.085>twin

590
00:29:32.425 --> 00:29:35.285
<00:29:32.425>for <00:29:32.565>your <00:29:32.705>application, <00:29:32.845>you <00:29:32.985>need <00:29:33.125>to <00:29:33.264>spend <00:29:33.405>a <00:29:33.544>lot <00:29:33.685>of <00:29:33.825>money.

591
00:29:35.385 --> 00:29:36.565
<00:29:35.385>And <00:29:35.650>that's <00:29:35.916>a <00:29:36.181>difficult <00:29:36.447>challenge,

592
00:29:36.565 --> 00:29:38.765
<00:29:36.565>or <00:29:36.705>that's <00:29:36.845>a <00:29:36.985>challenge <00:29:37.125>to <00:29:37.265>explain <00:29:37.405>it <00:29:37.545>to <00:29:37.685>the <00:29:37.825>project <00:29:37.965>manager.

593
00:29:39.155 --> 00:29:41.205
<00:29:39.155>It's <00:29:39.435>needed. <00:29:39.715>And <00:29:39.995>for <00:29:40.274>the, <00:29:40.555>uh,

594
00:29:41.425 --> 00:29:42.965
<00:29:41.425>and, <00:29:41.771>um, <00:29:42.118>for <00:29:42.464>the <00:29:42.811>company

595
00:29:43.065 --> 00:29:46.125
<00:29:43.065>as <00:29:43.205>if <00:29:43.345>you <00:29:43.485>say <00:29:43.625>about <00:29:43.765>the <00:29:43.905>company <00:29:44.045>was <00:29:44.185>costed <00:29:44.325>some <00:29:44.465>billions

596
00:29:46.125 --> 00:29:47.805
<00:29:46.125>and <00:29:46.475>the <00:29:46.825>simulator <00:29:47.175>some <00:29:47.525>millions.

597
00:29:47.805 --> 00:29:52.645
<00:29:47.805>And <00:29:47.945>so, <00:29:48.085>and <00:29:48.225>if <00:29:48.365>the <00:29:48.505>company <00:29:48.645>stops, <00:29:48.785>it <00:29:48.925>takes, <00:29:49.065>uh, <00:29:49.205>10,000,

598
00:29:52.645 --> 00:29:54.765
<00:29:52.645>20,000, <00:29:52.995>uh, <00:29:53.345>dollars <00:29:53.695>per <00:29:54.045>hour.

599
00:29:56.085 --> 00:29:58.585
<00:29:56.085>So <00:29:56.212>if <00:29:56.339>you <00:29:56.466>about, <00:29:56.594>yeah, <00:29:56.721>maybe <00:29:56.848>you <00:29:56.975>have <00:29:57.103>a <00:29:57.230>return <00:29:57.357>of <00:29:57.485>revenue.

600
00:29:58.845 --> 00:30:01.425
<00:29:58.845>So <00:29:59.000>that's <00:29:59.156>the <00:29:59.311>point <00:29:59.467>where <00:29:59.622>you <00:29:59.778>have <00:29:59.933>to <00:30:00.089>think <00:30:00.245>about.

601
00:30:02.085 --> 00:30:05.505
<00:30:02.085>Uh, <00:30:02.225>but <00:30:02.365>the <00:30:02.505>challenge <00:30:02.645>is <00:30:02.785>you <00:30:02.925>have <00:30:03.065>a <00:30:03.205>third, <00:30:03.345>uh, <00:30:03.485>party,

602
00:30:06.125 --> 00:30:07.465
<00:30:06.125>uh, <00:30:06.527>involved <00:30:06.928>the <00:30:07.331>managers.

603
00:30:08.005 --> 00:30:10.385
<00:30:08.005>You <00:30:08.160>have <00:30:08.316>the <00:30:08.471>engine, <00:30:08.627>you <00:30:08.782>have <00:30:08.938>the <00:30:09.093>developers <00:30:09.249>who <00:30:09.405>needs

604
00:30:10.385 --> 00:30:12.625
<00:30:10.385>to <00:30:10.540>talk <00:30:10.696>to <00:30:10.851>engineers <00:30:11.007>and <00:30:11.162>engineers <00:30:11.318>who <00:30:11.473>talks <00:30:11.629>to <00:30:11.785>developers.

605
00:30:12.925 --> 00:30:14.705
<00:30:12.925>Now <00:30:13.158>you <00:30:13.391>have <00:30:13.625>to <00:30:13.858>translate <00:30:14.091>your <00:30:14.325>approach,

606
00:30:14.705 --> 00:30:15.785
<00:30:14.705>your <00:30:15.029>wishes <00:30:15.353>to <00:30:15.677>management.

607
00:30:15.925 --> 00:30:17.025
<00:30:15.925>And <00:30:16.172>that's <00:30:16.420>the <00:30:16.667>next <00:30:16.915>challenge.

608
00:30:17.365 --> 00:30:21.225
<00:30:17.365>But <00:30:17.505>it's <00:30:17.645>their <00:30:17.785>own <00:30:17.925>story, <00:30:18.065>uh, <00:30:18.205>that <00:30:18.345>that's, <00:30:18.485>yeah. <00:30:18.625>So, <00:30:18.765>okay.

609
00:30:21.225 --> 00:30:24.545
<00:30:21.225>Yeah. <00:30:21.925>So, <00:30:22.625>Hmm.

610
00:30:25.335 --> 00:30:28.505
<00:30:25.335>Okay. <00:30:25.510>So <00:30:25.685>if <00:30:25.860>anyone <00:30:26.035>have <00:30:26.210>a, <00:30:26.385>any <00:30:26.560>other <00:30:26.735>question,

611
00:30:28.605 --> 00:30:30.105
<00:30:28.605>you <00:30:28.875>can <00:30:29.145>send <00:30:29.415>in <00:30:29.685>the <00:30:29.955>channel

612
00:30:30.485 --> 00:30:32.465
<00:30:30.485>and <00:30:30.718>you <00:30:30.951>will <00:30:31.185>get <00:30:31.418>your <00:30:31.651>answer <00:30:31.885>in

613
00:30:32.465 --> 00:30:33.585
<00:30:32.465>the <00:30:32.666>same <00:30:32.868>channel. <00:30:33.069>Mm-Hmm. <00:30:33.271>Thank <00:30:33.473>you.

614
00:30:34.575 --> 00:30:34.865
Okay.