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388
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<00:17:41.625>Yeah, <00:17:42.223>congratulations, <00:17:42.822>Johnny.

389
00:17:43.015 --> 00:17:44.875
<00:17:43.015>So <00:17:43.215>they <00:17:43.415>might <00:17:43.615>start <00:17:43.815>the <00:17:44.015>call <00:17:44.215>like, <00:17:44.415>uh,

390
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<00:17:44.875>Johnny, <00:17:45.127>this <00:17:45.379>is <00:17:45.630>super <00:17:45.882>urgent.

391
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<00:17:46.255>Uh, <00:17:46.488>please <00:17:46.721>quickly, <00:17:46.955>uh, <00:17:47.188>we've <00:17:47.421>been <00:17:47.655>hacked.

392
00:17:48.275 --> 00:17:49.885
<00:17:48.275>Gimme <00:17:48.625>your <00:17:48.975>password, <00:17:49.325>approve <00:17:49.675>MFA,

393
00:17:50.105 --> 00:17:51.805
<00:17:50.105>and <00:17:50.280>then, <00:17:50.455>uh, <00:17:50.630>yeah, <00:17:50.805>they <00:17:50.980>kind <00:17:51.155>of <00:17:51.330>get <00:17:51.505>in.

394
00:17:52.435 --> 00:17:55.525
<00:17:52.435>Yeah. <00:17:52.590>Um, <00:17:52.746>and <00:17:52.901>this <00:17:53.057>takes <00:17:53.212>us <00:17:53.368>to <00:17:53.523>the <00:17:53.679>third <00:17:53.835>scenario.

395
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<00:17:55.525>Unfortunately, <00:17:55.741>this <00:17:55.957>one <00:17:56.173>is <00:17:56.389>the <00:17:56.605>real <00:17:56.821>one.

396
00:17:57.225 --> 00:18:00.845
<00:17:57.225>Um, <00:17:57.380>so <00:17:57.536>what <00:17:57.691>happened <00:17:57.847>here, <00:17:58.002>they <00:17:58.158>used <00:17:58.313>Deepfake <00:17:58.469>as <00:17:58.625>part

397
00:18:00.845 --> 00:18:03.245
<00:18:00.845>of <00:18:01.125>a <00:18:01.405>very <00:18:01.685>professional <00:18:01.965>made <00:18:02.245>attack.

398
00:18:03.705 --> 00:18:07.725
<00:18:03.705>Uh, <00:18:03.860>so <00:18:04.016>they <00:18:04.171>target <00:18:04.327>the <00:18:04.482>specific <00:18:04.638>company, <00:18:04.793>uh, <00:18:04.949>which, <00:18:05.105>um,

399
00:18:09.425 --> 00:18:12.245
<00:18:09.425>uh, <00:18:09.580>and <00:18:09.736>from <00:18:09.891>this <00:18:10.047>company, <00:18:10.202>they <00:18:10.358>targeted <00:18:10.513>a <00:18:10.669>specific <00:18:10.825>set

400
00:18:12.245 --> 00:18:16.125
<00:18:12.245>of <00:18:12.372>engineers <00:18:12.499>that <00:18:12.626>had <00:18:12.754>admin <00:18:12.881>access <00:18:13.008>on <00:18:13.135>the <00:18:13.263>area <00:18:13.390>in <00:18:13.517>which, <00:18:13.645>uh,

401
00:18:16.665 --> 00:18:18.045
<00:18:16.665>the, <00:18:16.975>the <00:18:17.286>attackers <00:18:17.596>were <00:18:17.907>interested.

402
00:18:18.475 --> 00:18:21.285
<00:18:18.475>They <00:18:18.649>were <00:18:18.824>phishing <00:18:19.000>them <00:18:19.175>with, <00:18:19.350>uh, <00:18:19.524>with <00:18:19.699>some, <00:18:19.875>uh,

403
00:18:21.595 --> 00:18:24.405
<00:18:21.595>some <00:18:21.750>job <00:18:21.906>offers <00:18:22.061>from <00:18:22.217>another <00:18:22.372>competitor, <00:18:22.528>a <00:18:22.683>very <00:18:22.839>big <00:18:22.995>one

404
00:18:24.405 --> 00:18:25.965
<00:18:24.405>with <00:18:24.638>very <00:18:24.871>good <00:18:25.105>salary <00:18:25.338>and <00:18:25.571>so <00:18:25.805>on.

405
00:18:26.035 --> 00:18:28.645
<00:18:26.035>Unfortunately, <00:18:26.385>one <00:18:26.735>of, <00:18:27.085>uh, <00:18:27.435>one

406
00:18:28.645 --> 00:18:30.885
<00:18:28.645>of <00:18:28.878>the <00:18:29.111>engineers <00:18:29.345>got <00:18:29.578>hooked <00:18:29.811>into <00:18:30.045>this.

407
00:18:31.345 --> 00:18:33.525
<00:18:31.345>Uh, <00:18:31.625>they <00:18:31.905>had <00:18:32.185>several <00:18:32.465>interviews, <00:18:32.745>hr,

408
00:18:33.685 --> 00:18:35.605
<00:18:33.685>a <00:18:34.034>few <00:18:34.385>technical <00:18:34.735>interviews, <00:18:35.085>uh,

409
00:18:35.715 --> 00:18:37.725
<00:18:35.715>then <00:18:35.889>we <00:18:36.064>interview <00:18:36.240>with <00:18:36.415>the <00:18:36.590>team <00:18:36.764>and <00:18:36.939>so <00:18:37.115>on.

410
00:18:37.725 --> 00:18:40.205
<00:18:37.725>So <00:18:37.925>it <00:18:38.125>was <00:18:38.324>very <00:18:38.524>professionally <00:18:38.725>done, <00:18:38.925>impersonating <00:18:39.125>some

411
00:18:40.205 --> 00:18:42.245
<00:18:40.205>of <00:18:40.379>the <00:18:40.554>key <00:18:40.730>people <00:18:40.905>from, <00:18:41.080>from <00:18:41.254>the <00:18:41.429>other <00:18:41.605>company

412
00:18:42.665 --> 00:18:43.805
<00:18:42.665>by <00:18:43.178>using <00:18:43.691>Deepfake.

413
00:18:44.025 --> 00:18:45.285
<00:18:44.025>And <00:18:44.308>then <00:18:44.592>they <00:18:44.875>sent, <00:18:45.159>uh,

414
00:18:45.285 --> 00:18:47.485
<00:18:45.285>they <00:18:45.485>sent <00:18:45.685>a <00:18:45.885>PDF <00:18:46.085>injected <00:18:46.285>with <00:18:46.485>the <00:18:46.685>malware.

415
00:18:47.485 --> 00:18:48.725
<00:18:47.485>Unfortunately, <00:18:48.043>the, <00:18:48.601>uh,

416
00:18:49.025 --> 00:18:52.205
<00:18:49.025>the <00:18:49.165>engineer <00:18:49.305>opened <00:18:49.445>it <00:18:49.585>on <00:18:49.725>the <00:18:49.865>corporate <00:18:50.005>laptop, <00:18:50.145>they <00:18:50.285>got <00:18:50.425>in,

417
00:18:52.205 --> 00:18:54.605
<00:18:52.205>and <00:18:52.379>at <00:18:52.554>the <00:18:52.730>end, <00:18:52.905>uh, <00:18:53.080>the <00:18:53.254>estimated <00:18:53.429>damage <00:18:53.605>was

418
00:18:54.605 --> 00:18:55.885
<00:18:54.605>around <00:18:55.181>$600 <00:18:55.757>million.

419
00:18:56.665 --> 00:18:59.365
<00:18:56.665>Um, <00:18:56.805>yeah, <00:18:56.945>unfortunately, <00:18:57.085>this <00:18:57.225>is <00:18:57.365>a, <00:18:57.504>this <00:18:57.645>is <00:18:57.784>a <00:18:57.925>set <00:18:58.065>case,

420
00:18:59.465 --> 00:19:00.485
<00:18:59.465>but <00:18:59.618>just <00:18:59.771>to <00:18:59.924>give <00:19:00.077>you <00:19:00.230>an <00:19:00.382>example,

421
00:19:00.625 --> 00:19:03.685
<00:19:00.625>how <00:19:00.752>the <00:19:00.879>fake <00:19:01.006>can <00:19:01.134>be <00:19:01.261>used <00:19:01.388>in <00:19:01.515>this <00:19:01.643>kind <00:19:01.770>of <00:19:01.897>complex <00:19:02.025>attacks,

422
00:19:03.835 --> 00:19:05.765
<00:19:03.835>because <00:19:04.115>yeah, <00:19:04.395>your <00:19:04.675>company <00:19:04.955>might <00:19:05.235>be

423
00:19:05.965 --> 00:19:07.325
<00:19:05.965>targeted <00:19:06.209>like <00:19:06.454>this <00:19:06.699>in <00:19:06.944>the <00:19:07.189>future.

424
00:19:08.025 --> 00:19:12.005
<00:19:08.025>Um, <00:19:08.165>and <00:19:08.305>now, <00:19:08.445>uh, <00:19:08.585>we're <00:19:08.725>going <00:19:08.865>to, <00:19:09.005>uh, <00:19:09.145>a <00:19:09.285>fourth <00:19:09.425>scenario.

425
00:19:12.035 --> 00:19:13.325
<00:19:12.035>This <00:19:12.267>is <00:19:12.499>the <00:19:12.731>mass <00:19:12.963>market <00:19:13.196>one,

426
00:19:13.325 --> 00:19:16.085
<00:19:13.325>but <00:19:13.452>I'll <00:19:13.579>let <00:19:13.706>Mihai <00:19:13.834>explain <00:19:13.961>you <00:19:14.088>a <00:19:14.215>little <00:19:14.343>bit <00:19:14.470>more <00:19:14.597>about <00:19:14.725>it.

427
00:19:17.715 --> 00:19:21.485
<00:19:17.715>What <00:19:17.870>you'll <00:19:18.026>see <00:19:18.181>here, <00:19:18.337>it's <00:19:18.492>something <00:19:18.648>a <00:19:18.803>bit <00:19:18.959>more <00:19:19.115>simpler,

428
00:19:22.025 --> 00:19:23.085
<00:19:22.025>but <00:19:22.502>still <00:19:22.979>elaborated.

429
00:19:23.665 --> 00:19:26.375
<00:19:23.665>Um, <00:19:24.014>the <00:19:24.365>technique <00:19:24.715>is <00:19:25.065>simple.

430
00:19:26.795 --> 00:19:29.615
<00:19:26.795>You <00:19:26.970>find <00:19:27.145>a <00:19:27.320>famous <00:19:27.495>person <00:19:27.670>which <00:19:27.845>has <00:19:28.020>some <00:19:28.195>trust,

431
00:19:29.785 --> 00:19:30.855
<00:19:29.785>especially <00:19:30.106>in <00:19:30.427>the <00:19:30.748>medium.

432
00:19:32.395 --> 00:19:36.895
<00:19:32.395>You <00:19:32.535>find <00:19:32.675>a <00:19:32.815>certain <00:19:32.955>number <00:19:33.095>of <00:19:33.235>platforms <00:19:33.375>where <00:19:33.514>you <00:19:33.655>can <00:19:33.795>pay

433
00:19:36.895 --> 00:19:41.455
<00:19:36.895>for <00:19:37.128>ads, <00:19:37.361>and <00:19:37.595>then <00:19:37.828>you <00:19:38.061>target <00:19:38.295>the,

434
00:19:41.555 --> 00:19:43.815
<00:19:41.555>the <00:19:41.695>goal <00:19:41.835>fit <00:19:41.975>in <00:19:42.115>the <00:19:42.255>end, <00:19:42.395>it's <00:19:42.535>just <00:19:42.675>to <00:19:42.815>gain <00:19:42.955>an,

435
00:19:43.815 --> 00:19:45.895
<00:19:43.815>an <00:19:44.165>unfaithful <00:19:44.515>amount <00:19:44.865>of <00:19:45.215>money.

436
00:19:46.075 --> 00:19:48.935
<00:19:46.075>So <00:19:46.275>it's, <00:19:46.475>it's, <00:19:46.675>it's <00:19:46.875>not, <00:19:47.075>it's <00:19:47.275>being <00:19:47.475>presented

437
00:19:48.935 --> 00:19:51.375
<00:19:48.935>as <00:19:49.284>an <00:19:49.635>investment, <00:19:49.985>um, <00:19:50.335>opportunity,

438
00:19:51.875 --> 00:19:54.495
<00:19:51.875>but <00:19:52.050>in <00:19:52.225>the <00:19:52.400>end, <00:19:52.575>yeah, <00:19:52.750>it's <00:19:52.925>just <00:19:53.100>a <00:19:53.275>fraud.

439
00:19:55.375 --> 00:19:55.495
I,

440
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<00:20:01.405>Does <00:20:01.605>anybody <00:20:01.805>recognize <00:20:02.004>the <00:20:02.205>guy <00:20:02.405>in <00:20:02.605>the <00:20:02.805>video?

441
00:20:05.915 --> 00:20:07.855
<00:20:05.915>He <00:20:06.148>has <00:20:06.381>some <00:20:06.615>business <00:20:06.848>around, <00:20:07.081>uh, <00:20:07.315>Berlin.

442
00:20:08.155 --> 00:20:10.655
<00:20:08.155>So <00:20:08.435>there <00:20:08.715>you <00:20:08.995>have <00:20:09.274>Elon <00:20:09.555>Musk.

443
00:20:10.685 --> 00:20:13.255
<00:20:10.685>Unfortunately <00:20:10.860>with <00:20:11.034>the, <00:20:11.210>with <00:20:11.385>the <00:20:11.560>sound <00:20:11.735>issue, <00:20:11.909>I'm <00:20:12.085>gonna,

444
00:20:13.275 --> 00:20:14.375
<00:20:13.275>I'm <00:20:13.473>gonna <00:20:13.671>try <00:20:13.869>to <00:20:14.067>explain <00:20:14.265>it.

445
00:20:14.795 --> 00:20:16.095
<00:20:14.795>Uh, <00:20:15.029>what <00:20:15.263>you <00:20:15.497>have <00:20:15.731>seen <00:20:15.965>there.

446
00:20:17.245 --> 00:20:21.175
<00:20:17.245>It's <00:20:17.400>Elon <00:20:17.556>Musk <00:20:17.711>doing <00:20:17.867>a <00:20:18.022>presentation <00:20:18.178>for <00:20:18.333>Tesla <00:20:18.489>and <00:20:18.645>SpaceX.

447
00:20:22.125 --> 00:20:23.975
<00:20:22.125>However, <00:20:22.591>behind <00:20:23.058>the <00:20:23.525>scene,

448
00:20:24.595 --> 00:20:26.855
<00:20:24.595>the <00:20:24.770>message <00:20:24.945>is <00:20:25.120>not <00:20:25.295>the <00:20:25.470>message <00:20:25.645>from <00:20:25.820>the <00:20:25.995>presentation,

449
00:20:27.475 --> 00:20:30.015
<00:20:27.475>you <00:20:27.675>had <00:20:27.875>the <00:20:28.074>attackers, <00:20:28.274>which <00:20:28.475>took <00:20:28.675>this <00:20:28.875>video,

450
00:20:30.015 --> 00:20:32.135
<00:20:30.015>which <00:20:30.190>was <00:20:30.365>publicly <00:20:30.540>available <00:20:30.715>and <00:20:30.890>streamed <00:20:31.065>at <00:20:31.240>that <00:20:31.415>moment.

451
00:20:32.795 --> 00:20:35.895
<00:20:32.795>Um, <00:20:32.970>the <00:20:33.145>voice <00:20:33.320>of <00:20:33.495>Elon <00:20:33.670>Musk <00:20:33.845>from <00:20:34.020>different <00:20:34.195>sources,

452
00:20:36.365 --> 00:20:41.335
<00:20:36.365>they <00:20:36.520>run <00:20:36.676>it <00:20:36.831>against <00:20:36.987>a <00:20:37.142>model <00:20:37.298>Using <00:20:37.453>their <00:20:37.609>own <00:20:37.765>message,

453
00:20:42.075 --> 00:20:45.455
<00:20:42.075>of <00:20:42.215>course, <00:20:42.355>following <00:20:42.495>a <00:20:42.635>bit <00:20:42.775>style <00:20:42.915>of <00:20:43.055>Elon <00:20:43.195>Musk, <00:20:43.335>uh, <00:20:43.475>to,

454
00:20:45.555 --> 00:20:47.205
<00:20:45.555>to <00:20:45.835>sound <00:20:46.115>as <00:20:46.395>real <00:20:46.675>as <00:20:46.955>possible.

455
00:20:48.305 --> 00:20:50.285
<00:20:48.305>And <00:20:48.480>then <00:20:48.655>they <00:20:48.830>put <00:20:49.005>it <00:20:49.180>as <00:20:49.355>an <00:20:49.530>advertisement <00:20:49.705>on,

456
00:20:51.145 --> 00:20:52.285
<00:20:51.145>in <00:20:51.350>this <00:20:51.555>case <00:20:51.760>it <00:20:51.965>has <00:20:52.171>YouTube,

457
00:20:52.425 --> 00:20:55.765
<00:20:52.425>but <00:20:52.600>it's <00:20:52.774>also <00:20:52.950>on, <00:20:53.125>on, <00:20:53.300>on <00:20:53.475>other, <00:20:53.649>uh, <00:20:53.825>platforms.

458
00:20:57.315 --> 00:21:00.125
<00:20:57.315>This <00:20:57.515>one <00:20:57.715>is <00:20:57.915>quite <00:20:58.115>difficult <00:20:58.315>to, <00:20:58.515>to <00:20:58.715>detect.

459
00:21:00.385 --> 00:21:03.325
<00:21:00.385>Um, <00:21:00.540>you <00:21:00.696>see <00:21:00.851>a <00:21:01.007>little <00:21:01.162>musk <00:21:01.318>from, <00:21:01.473>from <00:21:01.629>far <00:21:01.785>away.

460
00:21:03.945 --> 00:21:07.965
<00:21:03.945>If <00:21:04.085>we <00:21:04.225>have <00:21:04.365>a <00:21:04.504>closeup <00:21:04.645>on <00:21:04.784>his <00:21:04.925>face, <00:21:05.064>you <00:21:05.205>could <00:21:05.345>realize

461
00:21:08.385 --> 00:21:11.845
<00:21:08.385>or <00:21:08.560>detect <00:21:08.735>that <00:21:08.910>his <00:21:09.085>lips <00:21:09.260>were <00:21:09.435>not <00:21:09.610>saying <00:21:09.785>exactly

462
00:21:11.865 --> 00:21:13.085
<00:21:11.865>the <00:21:12.084>same <00:21:12.304>thing <00:21:12.523>that <00:21:12.743>you <00:21:12.963>hear.

463
00:21:14.225 --> 00:21:17.525
<00:21:14.225>Um, <00:21:14.574>okay, <00:21:14.925>I'm <00:21:15.274>making <00:21:15.625>noises.

464
00:21:18.025 --> 00:21:22.285
<00:21:18.025>Um, <00:21:18.305>what <00:21:18.585>we <00:21:18.865>need <00:21:19.145>to <00:21:19.425>do,

465
00:21:23.785 --> 00:21:26.045
<00:21:23.785>and <00:21:24.065>that's <00:21:24.345>a <00:21:24.625>request <00:21:24.905>towards <00:21:25.185>everybody.

466
00:21:26.355 --> 00:21:30.685
<00:21:26.355>It's <00:21:26.530>pay <00:21:26.705>attention <00:21:26.880>easier <00:21:27.055>than <00:21:27.230>said <00:21:27.405>to <00:21:27.580>be <00:21:27.755>vigilant,

467
00:21:31.355 --> 00:21:35.285
<00:21:31.355>because <00:21:31.510>in <00:21:31.666>the <00:21:31.821>heat <00:21:31.977>of <00:21:32.132>the <00:21:32.288>moment, <00:21:32.443>you <00:21:32.599>just <00:21:32.755>act

468
00:21:35.395 --> 00:21:38.405
<00:21:35.395>with <00:21:35.595>your <00:21:35.795>heart, <00:21:35.995>unless <00:21:36.195>with <00:21:36.395>your <00:21:36.595>mind, <00:21:36.795>um,

469
00:21:39.705 --> 00:21:42.125
<00:21:39.705>George <00:21:39.905>gave <00:21:40.105>some <00:21:40.304>three, <00:21:40.504>uh, <00:21:40.705>tips <00:21:40.905>and <00:21:41.105>tricks.

470
00:21:42.305 --> 00:21:45.085
<00:21:42.305>I'm <00:21:42.480>gonna <00:21:42.655>go <00:21:42.830>on, <00:21:43.005>uh, <00:21:43.180>over <00:21:43.355>some <00:21:43.530>of <00:21:43.705>them.

471
00:21:45.505 --> 00:21:49.565
<00:21:45.505>If <00:21:45.660>we're <00:21:45.816>talking <00:21:45.971>about <00:21:46.127>a <00:21:46.282>call <00:21:46.438>at <00:21:46.593>the <00:21:46.749>first <00:21:46.905>moment

472
00:21:49.565 --> 00:21:51.685
<00:21:49.565>that <00:21:49.765>you <00:21:49.965>feel <00:21:50.165>that <00:21:50.365>something <00:21:50.565>may <00:21:50.765>be <00:21:50.965>fishy

473
00:21:51.685 --> 00:21:54.965
<00:21:51.685>or <00:21:51.840>not <00:21:51.996>at <00:21:52.151>the <00:21:52.307>right <00:21:52.462>spot, <00:21:52.618>kill <00:21:52.773>it, <00:21:52.929>close <00:21:53.085>it.

474
00:21:56.065 --> 00:21:58.005
<00:21:56.065>You <00:21:56.220>don't <00:21:56.376>care. <00:21:56.531>Is <00:21:56.687>the <00:21:56.842>CEO <00:21:56.998>that <00:21:57.153>called <00:21:57.309>you, <00:21:57.465>yes,

475
00:21:58.025 --> 00:22:00.205
<00:21:58.025>he <00:21:58.165>may <00:21:58.305>be <00:21:58.445>p****d <00:21:58.585>off <00:21:58.725>because <00:21:58.865>you <00:21:59.005>hang <00:21:59.145>up <00:21:59.285>on <00:21:59.425>him.

476
00:22:01.145 --> 00:22:03.765
<00:22:01.145>Um, <00:22:01.300>try <00:22:01.456>to <00:22:01.611>get <00:22:01.767>in <00:22:01.922>contact <00:22:02.078>with <00:22:02.233>the <00:22:02.389>real <00:22:02.545>person

477
00:22:04.745 --> 00:22:07.605
<00:22:04.745>or <00:22:04.919>with <00:22:05.094>somebody <00:22:05.270>in <00:22:05.445>his <00:22:05.620>entourage, <00:22:05.794>you <00:22:05.969>say, <00:22:06.145>yeah,

478
00:22:07.805 --> 00:22:09.485
<00:22:07.805>I <00:22:08.005>can't <00:22:08.205>get <00:22:08.405>to <00:22:08.605>the <00:22:08.805>CEO <00:22:09.005>like <00:22:09.205>that.

479
00:22:09.905 --> 00:22:12.565
<00:22:09.905>Yes, <00:22:10.060>fair. <00:22:10.216>But <00:22:10.371>you <00:22:10.527>can <00:22:10.682>get <00:22:10.838>somebody <00:22:10.993>in <00:22:11.149>his <00:22:11.305>office

480
00:22:12.665 --> 00:22:16.605
<00:22:12.665>or <00:22:12.945>her <00:22:13.225>office, <00:22:13.504>um, <00:22:13.784>sharing <00:22:14.065>password.

481
00:22:16.605 --> 00:22:18.325
<00:22:16.605>Never <00:22:16.838>ask <00:22:17.071>that <00:22:17.305>and <00:22:17.538>never <00:22:17.771>do <00:22:18.005>it.

482
00:22:19.585 --> 00:22:22.045
<00:22:19.585>You <00:22:19.740>have <00:22:19.896>no <00:22:20.051>clue <00:22:20.207>what's <00:22:20.362>gonna <00:22:20.518>happen <00:22:20.673>behind <00:22:20.829>the <00:22:20.985>scene.

483
00:22:22.585 --> 00:22:26.285
<00:22:22.585>Uh, <00:22:22.785>if <00:22:22.985>we <00:22:23.185>talk <00:22:23.385>about <00:22:23.585>the <00:22:23.785>high <00:22:23.985>actions,

484
00:22:26.655 --> 00:22:28.565
<00:22:26.655>especially <00:22:27.004>looking <00:22:27.355>the <00:22:27.705>money <00:22:28.055>transfers,

485
00:22:29.465 --> 00:22:30.765
<00:22:29.465>use <00:22:29.757>the <00:22:30.050>four <00:22:30.342>I <00:22:30.635>principle.

486
00:22:30.975 --> 00:22:34.205
<00:22:30.975>Don't <00:22:31.130>do <00:22:31.286>it <00:22:31.441>alone. <00:22:31.597>Never <00:22:31.752>ask <00:22:31.908>somebody <00:22:32.063>to <00:22:32.219>double <00:22:32.375>check.

487
00:22:34.275 --> 00:22:36.405
<00:22:34.275>Just <00:22:34.430>to <00:22:34.586>be <00:22:34.741>sure <00:22:34.897>that <00:22:35.052>you <00:22:35.208>don't <00:22:35.363>do <00:22:35.519>an <00:22:35.675>error

488
00:22:36.465 --> 00:22:38.925
<00:22:36.465>and <00:22:36.605>you <00:22:36.745>miss <00:22:36.885>instead <00:22:37.024>of <00:22:37.165>an <00:22:37.304>eight, <00:22:37.445>you <00:22:37.584>put <00:22:37.725>a <00:22:37.865>nine

489
00:22:38.925 --> 00:22:41.125
<00:22:38.925>and <00:22:39.125>then <00:22:39.325>the <00:22:39.524>money <00:22:39.725>goes, <00:22:39.925>goes <00:22:40.125>somewhere <00:22:40.325>else,

490
00:22:43.275 --> 00:22:45.375
<00:22:43.275>and <00:22:43.508>we <00:22:43.741>have <00:22:43.975>a <00:22:44.208>request <00:22:44.441>towards <00:22:44.675>you

491
00:22:45.885 --> 00:22:47.495
<00:22:45.885>because <00:22:46.165>we <00:22:46.445>can <00:22:46.725>make <00:22:47.004>it <00:22:47.285>better.

492
00:22:47.715 --> 00:22:49.215
<00:22:47.715>But <00:22:48.052>it's <00:22:48.389>all <00:22:48.727>of <00:22:49.064>us.

493
00:22:49.475 --> 00:22:52.495
<00:22:49.475>We <00:22:49.615>all <00:22:49.754>have <00:22:49.895>a <00:22:50.034>role <00:22:50.175>to <00:22:50.314>play <00:22:50.455>both <00:22:50.594>of <00:22:50.735>us <00:22:50.875>here,

494
00:22:52.555 --> 00:22:55.015
<00:22:52.555>and <00:22:52.695>that's <00:22:52.835>one <00:22:52.975>of <00:22:53.115>the <00:22:53.255>purposes <00:22:53.395>for <00:22:53.535>which <00:22:53.675>we <00:22:53.815>are <00:22:53.955>here.

495
00:22:55.075 --> 00:22:59.415
<00:22:55.075>We <00:22:55.275>want <00:22:55.475>to <00:22:55.675>create <00:22:55.875>awareness <00:22:56.075>together, <00:22:56.275>together, <00:22:56.475>alone,

496
00:23:00.555 --> 00:23:02.215
<00:23:00.555>uh, <00:23:00.905>with, <00:23:01.255>with <00:23:01.605>our <00:23:01.955>companies,

497
00:23:02.215 --> 00:23:03.775
<00:23:02.215>with <00:23:02.495>our <00:23:02.774>employers, <00:23:03.054>with <00:23:03.334>you <00:23:03.615>here.

498
00:23:04.075 --> 00:23:05.415
<00:23:04.075>We <00:23:04.376>need <00:23:04.678>to <00:23:04.979>create <00:23:05.281>awareness.

499
00:23:05.875 --> 00:23:08.015
<00:23:05.875>We <00:23:06.075>need <00:23:06.275>to <00:23:06.475>share <00:23:06.675>our <00:23:06.875>findings <00:23:07.075>and <00:23:07.275>learnings.

500
00:23:09.195 --> 00:23:11.775
<00:23:09.195>Yes, <00:23:09.428>it <00:23:09.661>may <00:23:09.895>be <00:23:10.128>painful <00:23:10.361>to <00:23:10.595>share,

501
00:23:12.305 --> 00:23:14.935
<00:23:12.305>especially <00:23:12.460>if <00:23:12.616>you <00:23:12.771>have <00:23:12.927>been <00:23:13.082>a <00:23:13.238>victim <00:23:13.393>of <00:23:13.549>a <00:23:13.705>fraud

502
00:23:14.955 --> 00:23:16.375
<00:23:14.955>of <00:23:15.274>one <00:23:15.594>of <00:23:15.913>the <00:23:16.233>scenarios.

503
00:23:17.355 --> 00:23:19.215
<00:23:17.355>Invent <00:23:17.705>somebody, <00:23:18.055>a <00:23:18.405>John <00:23:18.755>Doe.

504
00:23:19.435 --> 00:23:21.735
<00:23:19.435>Use <00:23:19.715>it, <00:23:19.995>but <00:23:20.274>share <00:23:20.554>your <00:23:20.835>findings.

505
00:23:21.755 --> 00:23:24.495
<00:23:21.755>And <00:23:22.035>Indian, <00:23:22.315>yeah, <00:23:22.595>also <00:23:22.875>your <00:23:23.155>feelings

506
00:23:24.605 --> 00:23:25.775
<00:23:24.605>with, <00:23:24.868>with <00:23:25.131>your <00:23:25.394>close <00:23:25.658>ones.

507
00:23:26.735 --> 00:23:28.615
<00:23:26.735>I <00:23:26.968>really <00:23:27.201>like <00:23:27.435>the <00:23:27.668>two <00:23:27.901>statements <00:23:28.135>below.

508
00:23:28.715 --> 00:23:30.015
<00:23:28.715>Yes, <00:23:28.882>we <00:23:29.049>are <00:23:29.216>both <00:23:29.383>working <00:23:29.550>for <00:23:29.717>a <00:23:29.885>bank.

509
00:23:30.795 --> 00:23:33.135
<00:23:30.795>I'm <00:23:30.970>never <00:23:31.145>gonna <00:23:31.320>ask <00:23:31.495>you <00:23:31.670>for <00:23:31.845>your <00:23:32.020>password <00:23:32.195>credentials

510
00:23:33.395 --> 00:23:34.855
<00:23:33.395>and <00:23:33.657>taking <00:23:33.920>control <00:23:34.183>of <00:23:34.446>the <00:23:34.709>computer.

511
00:23:34.915 --> 00:23:37.775
<00:23:34.915>That's, <00:23:35.148>that's <00:23:35.381>madness. <00:23:35.615>That's <00:23:35.848>not <00:23:36.081>gonna <00:23:36.315>happen.

512
00:23:39.075 --> 00:23:43.095
<00:23:39.075>And <00:23:39.202>we <00:23:39.329>may <00:23:39.456>ask, <00:23:39.584>okay, <00:23:39.711>you <00:23:39.838>are <00:23:39.965>here <00:23:40.093>in <00:23:40.220>front <00:23:40.347>of <00:23:40.475>us.

513
00:23:43.915 --> 00:23:47.485
<00:23:43.915>Is <00:23:44.264>that <00:23:44.615>enough? <00:23:44.965>No <00:23:45.315>awareness.

514
00:23:48.195 --> 00:23:49.725
<00:23:48.195>It's <00:23:48.470>not <00:23:48.745>a <00:23:49.021>one <00:23:49.296>time <00:23:49.572>shoot.

515
00:23:49.745 --> 00:23:51.125
<00:23:49.745>And <00:23:49.952>I <00:23:50.158>like <00:23:50.366>to <00:23:50.572>call <00:23:50.780>it <00:23:50.987>differently.

516
00:23:51.835 --> 00:23:53.045
<00:23:51.835>It's <00:23:52.107>a <00:23:52.379>marathon <00:23:52.651>of <00:23:52.924>sprints.

517
00:23:53.745 --> 00:23:55.885
<00:23:53.745>You <00:23:53.885>think <00:23:54.024>that <00:23:54.165>you <00:23:54.304>have <00:23:54.445>reached <00:23:54.584>the <00:23:54.725>end, <00:23:54.864>the <00:23:55.004>finish <00:23:55.145>line,

518
00:23:56.985 --> 00:23:58.125
<00:23:56.985>get <00:23:57.190>ready <00:23:57.395>for <00:23:57.600>the <00:23:57.805>next <00:23:58.011>round.

519
00:23:58.945 --> 00:24:03.085
<00:23:58.945>Having <00:23:59.120>said <00:23:59.294>that, <00:23:59.470>thank <00:23:59.645>you <00:23:59.820>for <00:23:59.995>your <00:24:00.169>time <00:24:00.345>then.

520
00:24:03.085 --> 00:24:04.085
<00:24:03.085>Thank <00:24:03.310>you <00:24:03.535>for <00:24:03.760>being <00:24:03.985>here.

521
00:24:14.615 --> 00:24:16.445
<00:24:14.615>Thank <00:24:14.790>you <00:24:14.965>so <00:24:15.140>much. <00:24:15.315>That <00:24:15.490>was <00:24:15.665>such <00:24:15.840>an <00:24:16.015>important

522
00:24:16.475 --> 00:24:17.645
<00:24:16.475>talk <00:24:16.826>and <00:24:17.177>really <00:24:17.528>interesting.

523
00:24:17.905 --> 00:24:21.285
<00:24:17.905>Um, <00:24:18.060>we <00:24:18.216>haven't <00:24:18.371>actually <00:24:18.527>had <00:24:18.682>any <00:24:18.838>questions <00:24:18.993>from <00:24:19.149>the <00:24:19.305>audience,

524
00:24:21.385 --> 00:24:23.205
<00:24:21.385>so <00:24:21.665>if <00:24:21.945>you <00:24:22.225>have <00:24:22.504>any <00:24:22.785>questions,

525
00:24:23.345 --> 00:24:26.925
<00:24:23.345>get <00:24:23.500>them <00:24:23.656>in <00:24:23.811>the <00:24:23.967>questions <00:24:24.122>tab <00:24:24.278>on <00:24:24.433>the <00:24:24.589>app <00:24:24.745>now.

526
00:24:29.035 --> 00:24:33.645
<00:24:29.035>Otherwise, <00:24:29.315>will <00:24:29.595>say <00:24:29.875>thank <00:24:30.155>you <00:24:30.435>to,

527
00:24:35.885 --> 00:24:37.465
<00:24:35.885>oh, <00:24:36.165>you <00:24:36.445>have <00:24:36.725>a <00:24:37.004>booth? <00:24:37.285>Uh,

528
00:24:37.465 --> 00:24:39.505
<00:24:37.465>Yes, <00:24:37.592>we <00:24:37.719>have <00:24:37.846>a <00:24:37.974>booth <00:24:38.101>here, <00:24:38.228>so <00:24:38.355>we're <00:24:38.483>going <00:24:38.610>to <00:24:38.737>be <00:24:38.865>there.

529
00:24:39.525 --> 00:24:41.905
<00:24:39.525>Oh <00:24:39.725>yeah. <00:24:39.925>So <00:24:40.125>we <00:24:40.325>have <00:24:40.525>a <00:24:40.725>booth <00:24:40.925>here.

530
00:24:42.045 --> 00:24:43.665
<00:24:42.045>Uh, <00:24:42.245>we're <00:24:42.445>going <00:24:42.645>to <00:24:42.845>be <00:24:43.045>here <00:24:43.245>also <00:24:43.445>tomorrow.

531
00:24:43.685 --> 00:24:45.305
<00:24:43.685>So <00:24:43.885>if <00:24:44.085>you <00:24:44.284>have <00:24:44.485>any <00:24:44.685>questions, <00:24:44.885>feel <00:24:45.085>free

532
00:24:45.305 --> 00:24:46.985
<00:24:45.305>to <00:24:45.460>message <00:24:45.616>us <00:24:45.771>in <00:24:45.927>the <00:24:46.082>app <00:24:46.238>or <00:24:46.393>in <00:24:46.549>the <00:24:46.705>booth.

533
00:24:47.235 --> 00:24:47.625
<00:24:47.235>Thank <00:24:47.586>you.