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375
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377
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<00:14:39.355>and <00:14:39.510>like <00:14:39.666>basically <00:14:39.821>then <00:14:39.977>turning <00:14:40.132>it <00:14:40.288>into <00:14:40.443>a <00:14:40.599>Jason <00:14:40.755>file

378
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379
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380
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<00:14:45.175>to <00:14:45.408>hack <00:14:45.641>your <00:14:45.875>own <00:14:46.108>feed, <00:14:46.341>like <00:14:46.574>Yeah,

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Yeah.

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383
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384
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385
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386
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387
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388
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389
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<00:15:01.865>Um, <00:15:02.135>it's <00:15:02.405>not <00:15:02.675>like, <00:15:02.945>you <00:15:03.215>know,

390
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<00:15:03.365>it's <00:15:03.540>not <00:15:03.715>something <00:15:03.890>we <00:15:04.065>necessarily <00:15:04.240>like <00:15:04.415>intended <00:15:04.590>when <00:15:04.765>we

391
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<00:15:05.165>built <00:15:05.390>these <00:15:05.615>kind <00:15:05.839>of <00:15:06.064>systems,

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394
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<00:15:08.765>potentially <00:15:08.998>interested <00:15:09.231>in, <00:15:09.465>in <00:15:09.698>doing <00:15:09.931>more <00:15:10.165>there.

395
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<00:15:11.205>I <00:15:11.405>know <00:15:11.605>everyone <00:15:11.805>probably <00:15:12.005>remembers <00:15:12.205>like <00:15:12.405>Facebook <00:15:12.605>comments

396
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<00:15:13.585>or <00:15:13.818>like <00:15:14.051>discus <00:15:14.285>or <00:15:14.518>something <00:15:14.751>like <00:15:14.985>that.

397
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<00:15:15.745>Um, <00:15:15.872>but <00:15:15.999>yeah, <00:15:16.126>folks <00:15:16.254>are <00:15:16.381>using <00:15:16.508>it, <00:15:16.635>you <00:15:16.763>know, <00:15:16.890>it's <00:15:17.017>like, <00:15:17.145>uh,

398
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<00:15:18.445>they'll <00:15:18.620>post <00:15:18.795>a, <00:15:18.970>uh, <00:15:19.145>a <00:15:19.320>post <00:15:19.495>with <00:15:19.670>a <00:15:19.845>link

399
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400
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401
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402
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403
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404
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<00:15:32.485>to <00:15:32.625>do <00:15:32.765>any <00:15:32.905>of <00:15:33.045>that <00:15:33.185>sort <00:15:33.325>of <00:15:33.465>like, <00:15:33.605>wacky <00:15:33.745>scraping <00:15:33.885>stuff.

405
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406
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<00:15:37.005>that <00:15:37.248>data <00:15:37.491>and <00:15:37.734>rendering <00:15:37.977>it.

407
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408
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409
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<00:15:41.845>or <00:15:42.020>more <00:15:42.195>deeply <00:15:42.370>integrated <00:15:42.545>into <00:15:42.720>something <00:15:42.895>like, <00:15:43.070>you <00:15:43.245>know,

410
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<00:15:44.205>media <00:15:44.502>or <00:15:44.799>something <00:15:45.096>like <00:15:45.393>that.

411
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<00:15:45.535>Could <00:15:45.675>be, <00:15:45.814>could <00:15:45.954>be <00:15:46.094>really <00:15:46.235>cool. <00:15:46.375>Who <00:15:46.515>knows? <00:15:46.655>Sky's <00:15:46.795>the <00:15:46.935>limit.

412
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<00:15:47.985>That's <00:15:48.140>not <00:15:48.296>on <00:15:48.451>the <00:15:48.607>roadmap <00:15:48.762>as <00:15:48.918>far <00:15:49.073>as <00:15:49.229>I <00:15:49.385>know,

413
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414
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<00:15:51.045>that <00:15:51.245>would <00:15:51.444>be <00:15:51.645>really <00:15:51.844>cool <00:15:52.045>if <00:15:52.245>that <00:15:52.444>were

415
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<00:15:52.685>To <00:15:52.910>happen. <00:15:53.135>Yeah, <00:15:53.359>it'll <00:15:53.584>be,

416
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<00:15:53.685>I <00:15:53.918>mean, <00:15:54.151>the, <00:15:54.385>the <00:15:54.618>problem <00:15:54.851>with <00:15:55.084>discuss

417
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418
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<00:15:57.555>your <00:15:57.834>users <00:15:58.114>across <00:15:58.395>domains <00:15:58.675>as <00:15:58.954>well.

419
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420
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<00:16:01.605>that <00:16:01.838>don't <00:16:02.071>allow <00:16:02.305>for <00:16:02.538>discuss <00:16:02.771>any <00:16:03.005>longer

421
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<00:16:04.505>and <00:16:04.811>Facebook <00:16:05.117>as <00:16:05.423>well.

422
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<00:16:05.585>So <00:16:05.760>that's, <00:16:05.935>uh, <00:16:06.110>uh, <00:16:06.285>that's <00:16:06.460>a <00:16:06.635>really <00:16:06.810>tricky <00:16:06.985>one

423
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<00:16:07.925>to <00:16:08.125>get <00:16:08.324>the <00:16:08.525>open <00:16:08.724>source <00:16:08.925>people <00:16:09.125>to <00:16:09.324>do.

424
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<00:16:11.145>So <00:16:11.285>how <00:16:11.425>big <00:16:11.564>is <00:16:11.704>the <00:16:11.845>team <00:16:11.985>behind <00:16:12.125>it <00:16:12.265>at <00:16:12.405>the <00:16:12.545>moment?

425
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<00:16:14.235>Like <00:16:14.410>how <00:16:14.585>many <00:16:14.760>people <00:16:14.935>are <00:16:15.110>you <00:16:15.285>on <00:16:15.460>Blue <00:16:15.635>Sky?

426
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<00:16:16.865>Yeah, <00:16:17.040>we're, <00:16:17.215>um, <00:16:17.390>2021 <00:16:17.565>I <00:16:17.740>think <00:16:17.915>at <00:16:18.090>the <00:16:18.265>moment.

427
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<00:16:19.635>Something <00:16:19.835>like <00:16:20.035>that. <00:16:20.235>Wow. <00:16:20.435>21 <00:16:20.635>like <00:16:20.835>core <00:16:21.035>contributors.

428
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<00:16:21.875>And <00:16:22.050>then <00:16:22.225>we <00:16:22.400>have, <00:16:22.575>um, <00:16:22.750>you <00:16:22.925>know, <00:16:23.100>a <00:16:23.275>team

429
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<00:16:23.915>of <00:16:24.148>like <00:16:24.381>a <00:16:24.615>hundred <00:16:24.848>moderators <00:16:25.081>as <00:16:25.314>well.

430
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<00:16:26.015>Um, <00:16:26.295>and <00:16:26.574>some <00:16:26.855>other, <00:16:27.135>you <00:16:27.415>know,

431
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<00:16:28.145>some <00:16:28.319>support <00:16:28.495>folks <00:16:28.670>and <00:16:28.845>things <00:16:29.020>like <00:16:29.194>that <00:16:29.370>as <00:16:29.545>well.

432
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<00:16:29.825>But <00:16:30.055>the <00:16:30.285>core <00:16:30.516>team <00:16:30.746>that's <00:16:30.977>contributing

433
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<00:16:31.105>to <00:16:31.221>like <00:16:31.338>the <00:16:31.455>code <00:16:31.571>bases <00:16:31.688>is, <00:16:31.805>is <00:16:31.921>21 <00:16:32.038>at <00:16:32.155>the <00:16:32.271>moment, <00:16:32.388>I <00:16:32.505>believe.

434
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435
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<00:16:39.105>you <00:16:39.330>said <00:16:39.555>you <00:16:39.780>had <00:16:40.005>moderators,

436
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<00:16:40.165>but <00:16:40.320>do <00:16:40.476>you <00:16:40.631>do <00:16:40.787>also <00:16:40.942>automated <00:16:41.098>scraping <00:16:41.253>and, <00:16:41.409>and <00:16:41.564>blocking?

437
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<00:16:43.775>Like <00:16:43.930>do <00:16:44.086>you <00:16:44.241>have <00:16:44.397>akismet <00:16:44.552>running <00:16:44.708>or <00:16:44.863>something <00:16:45.019>like <00:16:45.175>that?

438
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<00:16:46.205>Or <00:16:46.479>how <00:16:46.754>does <00:16:47.028>that <00:16:47.303>work?

439
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<00:16:47.445>So <00:16:47.585>if <00:16:47.725>I <00:16:47.865>were <00:16:48.005>to <00:16:48.145>use, <00:16:48.285>uh, <00:16:48.425>comments <00:16:48.565>from <00:16:48.705>uh, <00:16:48.845>uh,

440
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441
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<00:16:54.095>that <00:16:54.375>spam <00:16:54.655>already <00:16:54.935>gets <00:16:55.215>filtered <00:16:55.495>out,

442
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<00:16:55.865>or <00:16:56.020>do <00:16:56.176>I <00:16:56.331>have <00:16:56.487>to <00:16:56.642>do <00:16:56.798>it <00:16:56.953>by <00:16:57.109>myself? <00:16:57.265>Yeah,

443
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<00:16:58.015>That's <00:16:58.240>a <00:16:58.465>very <00:16:58.689>good <00:16:58.915>question.

444
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445
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<00:17:02.515>So <00:17:02.715>we <00:17:02.915>mentioned <00:17:03.115>the, <00:17:03.314>uh, <00:17:03.515>human <00:17:03.715>moderators <00:17:03.915>first.

446
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<00:17:05.875>We <00:17:06.050>have <00:17:06.224>a, <00:17:06.400>a <00:17:06.575>an <00:17:06.750>entire <00:17:06.925>application <00:17:07.099>that's <00:17:07.275>dedicated

447
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<00:17:08.755>to <00:17:08.930>just <00:17:09.105>purely <00:17:09.280>doing <00:17:09.455>human <00:17:09.630>moderation, <00:17:09.805>that's <00:17:09.980>called <00:17:10.155>ozone,

448
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<00:17:11.994>that's <00:17:12.324>also <00:17:12.655>open <00:17:12.985>source.

449
00:17:13.475 --> 00:17:15.735
<00:17:13.474>Um, <00:17:13.615>folks <00:17:13.754>have <00:17:13.895>run <00:17:14.034>their <00:17:14.175>own <00:17:14.314>instances <00:17:14.454>of <00:17:14.594>this <00:17:14.734>as <00:17:14.875>well,

450
00:17:15.875 --> 00:17:17.255
<00:17:15.875>so <00:17:16.185>they <00:17:16.496>can <00:17:16.806>moderate, <00:17:17.117>um,

451
00:17:17.555 --> 00:17:19.735
<00:17:17.555>subcommunities <00:17:18.021>within <00:17:18.488>the <00:17:18.955>platform.

452
00:17:19.735 --> 00:17:21.975
<00:17:19.734>You <00:17:19.909>could <00:17:20.084>subscribe <00:17:20.260>to <00:17:20.435>any <00:17:20.609>of <00:17:20.784>the <00:17:20.959>moderation <00:17:21.135>services

453
00:17:22.045 --> 00:17:23.735
<00:17:22.045>that <00:17:22.325>you, <00:17:22.605>that <00:17:22.885>you <00:17:23.165>would <00:17:23.445>like.

454
00:17:24.035 --> 00:17:26.655
<00:17:24.035>Um, <00:17:24.235>and <00:17:24.435>then <00:17:24.635>what <00:17:24.835>those <00:17:25.035>moderation <00:17:25.235>services <00:17:25.435>do

455
00:17:27.395 --> 00:17:28.975
<00:17:27.395>is <00:17:27.861>they <00:17:28.328>get <00:17:28.795>reports

456
00:17:29.235 --> 00:17:32.215
<00:17:29.235>or <00:17:29.362>they <00:17:29.489>look <00:17:29.616>at <00:17:29.744>the <00:17:29.871>fire <00:17:29.998>hose <00:17:30.125>of <00:17:30.253>data <00:17:30.380>coming <00:17:30.507>through, <00:17:30.635>um,

457
00:17:32.215 --> 00:17:33.375
<00:17:32.215>like <00:17:32.562>our <00:17:32.911>public <00:17:33.259>relay,

458
00:17:33.995 --> 00:17:36.295
<00:17:33.995>and <00:17:34.169>they <00:17:34.344>apply <00:17:34.520>different <00:17:34.695>rules <00:17:34.870>and <00:17:35.044>things <00:17:35.219>like <00:17:35.395>that.

459
00:17:36.355 --> 00:17:38.615
<00:17:36.355>It <00:17:36.635>might <00:17:36.915>be <00:17:37.195>natural <00:17:37.475>language <00:17:37.755>processing,

460
00:17:38.635 --> 00:17:40.655
<00:17:38.635>or <00:17:38.835>it <00:17:39.035>might <00:17:39.235>be, <00:17:39.435>you <00:17:39.635>know, <00:17:39.835>image, <00:17:40.035>um,

461
00:17:40.655 --> 00:17:41.775
<00:17:40.655>detection, <00:17:40.991>things <00:17:41.327>like <00:17:41.663>that.

462
00:17:42.315 --> 00:17:43.975
<00:17:42.315>And <00:17:42.548>they <00:17:42.781>apply <00:17:43.015>what <00:17:43.248>are <00:17:43.481>called <00:17:43.715>labels.

463
00:17:44.275 --> 00:17:46.775
<00:17:44.275>And <00:17:44.475>these <00:17:44.675>labels <00:17:44.875>are <00:17:45.075>just <00:17:45.275>other <00:17:45.475>JSON <00:17:45.675>objects

464
00:17:46.775 --> 00:17:50.365
<00:17:46.775>that <00:17:46.930>are <00:17:47.086>Lexi <00:17:47.241>defined <00:17:47.397>in <00:17:47.552>our, <00:17:47.708>like, <00:17:47.863>um, <00:17:48.019>lexicon <00:17:48.175>system.

465
00:17:50.425 --> 00:17:53.605
<00:17:50.425>So <00:17:50.600>they're <00:17:50.774>shared <00:17:50.950>types <00:17:51.125>so <00:17:51.300>that <00:17:51.475>our <00:17:51.649>application <00:17:51.825>understands

466
00:17:53.625 --> 00:17:54.685
<00:17:53.625>how <00:17:53.863>to <00:17:54.101>react <00:17:54.340>to <00:17:54.579>them,

467
00:17:55.105 --> 00:17:58.285
<00:17:55.105>but <00:17:55.280>it <00:17:55.455>decorates <00:17:55.630>all <00:17:55.805>these <00:17:55.980>records <00:17:56.155>with <00:17:56.330>these <00:17:56.505>labels.

468
00:17:58.385 --> 00:18:00.685
<00:17:58.385>And <00:17:58.585>so <00:17:58.785>those <00:17:58.985>labels <00:17:59.185>we <00:17:59.385>can <00:17:59.585>then <00:17:59.785>use

469
00:18:00.705 --> 00:18:02.325
<00:18:00.705>to <00:18:00.938>either <00:18:01.171>filter <00:18:01.405>content <00:18:01.638>in <00:18:01.871>the <00:18:02.105>server

470
00:18:02.625 --> 00:18:05.285
<00:18:02.625>or <00:18:02.825>filter <00:18:03.025>content <00:18:03.225>in <00:18:03.425>the <00:18:03.625>front <00:18:03.825>end, <00:18:04.025>um,

471
00:18:05.285 --> 00:18:07.525
<00:18:05.285>or <00:18:05.565>sometimes <00:18:05.845>just <00:18:06.125>hide <00:18:06.405>content <00:18:06.685>entirely

472
00:18:07.545 --> 00:18:08.645
<00:18:07.545>if <00:18:07.710>it's <00:18:07.875>something <00:18:08.040>you <00:18:08.205>don't <00:18:08.370>wanna <00:18:08.535>see.

473
00:18:08.645 --> 00:18:10.365
<00:18:08.645>Maybe <00:18:08.820>it's <00:18:08.995>like <00:18:09.170>adult <00:18:09.345>content <00:18:09.520>or <00:18:09.695>something <00:18:09.870>like <00:18:10.045>that.

474
00:18:11.025 --> 00:18:12.645
<00:18:11.025>Um, <00:18:11.258>and <00:18:11.491>so <00:18:11.725>that's <00:18:11.958>like <00:18:12.191>the <00:18:12.425>core

475
00:18:12.645 --> 00:18:15.005
<00:18:12.645>of <00:18:12.845>our <00:18:13.045>moderation <00:18:13.245>platform <00:18:13.445>is <00:18:13.645>basically <00:18:13.845>these <00:18:14.045>labels.

476
00:18:15.385 --> 00:18:18.285
<00:18:15.385>And <00:18:15.525>so <00:18:15.665>then <00:18:15.805>yes, <00:18:15.945>we <00:18:16.085>have <00:18:16.225>automated <00:18:16.365>systems <00:18:16.504>as <00:18:16.645>well <00:18:16.785>that,

477
00:18:18.285 --> 00:18:21.085
<00:18:18.285>you <00:18:18.425>know, <00:18:18.565>scrape <00:18:18.705>for, <00:18:18.845>you <00:18:18.985>know, <00:18:19.125>for <00:18:19.265>instance, <00:18:19.405>we <00:18:19.545>use, <00:18:19.685>um,

478
00:18:22.335 --> 00:18:23.935
<00:18:22.335>I <00:18:22.535>forget <00:18:22.735>what <00:18:22.935>the, <00:18:23.135>what <00:18:23.335>the <00:18:23.535>platform <00:18:23.735>is,

479
00:18:23.935 --> 00:18:25.335
<00:18:23.935>but <00:18:24.145>it's <00:18:24.355>a <00:18:24.565>very <00:18:24.775>well <00:18:24.985>known, <00:18:25.195>um,

480
00:18:25.755 --> 00:18:28.835
<00:18:25.755>CS <00:18:26.035>a <00:18:26.315>like <00:18:26.595>child <00:18:26.875>stuff <00:18:27.155>scraper.

481
00:18:28.935 --> 00:18:31.395
<00:18:28.935>So <00:18:29.062>all <00:18:29.189>that, <00:18:29.316>all <00:18:29.444>that <00:18:29.571>stuff <00:18:29.698>is <00:18:29.825>like <00:18:29.953>very <00:18:30.080>behind <00:18:30.207>the <00:18:30.335>scenes.

482
00:18:31.395 --> 00:18:32.635
<00:18:31.395>They <00:18:31.581>don't <00:18:31.767>open <00:18:31.953>source <00:18:32.139>that, <00:18:32.325>of <00:18:32.511>course,

483
00:18:32.835 --> 00:18:33.995
<00:18:32.835>'cause <00:18:33.096>it's <00:18:33.357>very <00:18:33.618>sensitive <00:18:33.879>info,

484
00:18:34.135 --> 00:18:35.435
<00:18:34.135>but <00:18:34.302>we <00:18:34.469>send <00:18:34.636>these <00:18:34.803>things <00:18:34.970>off <00:18:35.137>to <00:18:35.304>them.

485
00:18:35.855 --> 00:18:38.715
<00:18:35.855>Um, <00:18:35.982>it's, <00:18:36.109>you <00:18:36.236>know, <00:18:36.364>kind <00:18:36.491>of <00:18:36.618>best <00:18:36.745>in <00:18:36.873>class <00:18:37.000>software <00:18:37.127>to <00:18:37.255>ensure

486
00:18:38.715 --> 00:18:40.555
<00:18:38.715>that, <00:18:38.889>you <00:18:39.064>know, <00:18:39.240>we're <00:18:39.415>not <00:18:39.590>getting <00:18:39.764>any <00:18:39.939>sort <00:18:40.115>of

487
00:18:40.555 --> 00:18:41.835
<00:18:40.555>that <00:18:40.843>content <00:18:41.131>on <00:18:41.419>the <00:18:41.707>network.

488
00:18:41.835 --> 00:18:43.395
<00:18:41.835>And <00:18:41.990>that's <00:18:42.146>like <00:18:42.301>one <00:18:42.457>of <00:18:42.612>the <00:18:42.768>first <00:18:42.923>things <00:18:43.079>we <00:18:43.235>run.

489
00:18:43.735 --> 00:18:45.675
<00:18:43.735>And <00:18:43.968>there's <00:18:44.201>different, <00:18:44.435>like, <00:18:44.668>layers <00:18:44.901>of <00:18:45.135>these,

490
00:18:45.775 --> 00:18:47.075
<00:18:45.775>um, <00:18:46.360>automated <00:18:46.945>systems.

491
00:18:47.695 --> 00:18:50.195
<00:18:47.695>Um, <00:18:47.895>but <00:18:48.095>in <00:18:48.294>the <00:18:48.495>end, <00:18:48.695>uh, <00:18:48.895>you <00:18:49.095>know,

492
00:18:50.195 --> 00:18:51.755
<00:18:50.195>if <00:18:50.428>we <00:18:50.661>aren't <00:18:50.895>certain <00:18:51.128>what's <00:18:51.361>happening, <00:18:51.595>it,

493
00:18:51.755 --> 00:18:53.315
<00:18:51.755>it <00:18:52.035>falls <00:18:52.315>back <00:18:52.595>to <00:18:52.875>human <00:18:53.155>moderation.

494
00:18:53.315 --> 00:18:55.275
<00:18:53.315>And <00:18:53.548>that's <00:18:53.781>where <00:18:54.015>those, <00:18:54.248>uh, <00:18:54.481>human <00:18:54.715>moderators

495
00:18:55.275 --> 00:18:56.395
<00:18:55.275>really <00:18:55.611>come <00:18:55.947>into <00:18:56.283>play.

496
00:18:56.775 --> 00:18:58.355
<00:18:56.775>Uh, <00:18:56.915>but, <00:18:57.055>you <00:18:57.195>know, <00:18:57.335>we're <00:18:57.475>trying <00:18:57.615>to <00:18:57.755>get <00:18:57.895>better <00:18:58.035>and <00:18:58.175>better

497
00:18:58.355 --> 00:19:01.315
<00:18:58.355>and <00:18:58.555>more, <00:18:58.755>um, <00:18:58.955>efficient <00:18:59.155>at <00:18:59.355>processing <00:18:59.555>data <00:18:59.755>so

498
00:19:01.315 --> 00:19:03.315
<00:19:01.315>that <00:19:01.455>we <00:19:01.595>can <00:19:01.735>catch <00:19:01.875>everything <00:19:02.015>before <00:19:02.155>it <00:19:02.295>gets <00:19:02.435>in <00:19:02.575>the <00:19:02.715>network.

499
00:19:03.595 --> 00:19:04.915
<00:19:03.595>'cause <00:19:03.764>you <00:19:03.934>know, <00:19:04.104>some <00:19:04.273>things <00:19:04.443>still <00:19:04.613>get <00:19:04.783>through.

500
00:19:05.455 --> 00:19:08.915
<00:19:05.455>And <00:19:05.610>if <00:19:05.766>that <00:19:05.921>happens, <00:19:06.077>then <00:19:06.232>users <00:19:06.388>can <00:19:06.543>report <00:19:06.699>those <00:19:06.855>posts

501
00:19:08.915 --> 00:19:10.875
<00:19:08.915>from, <00:19:09.264>from <00:19:09.615>the <00:19:09.965>app <00:19:10.315>itself.

502
00:19:10.875 --> 00:19:12.155
<00:19:10.875>So <00:19:11.039>if <00:19:11.204>they <00:19:11.368>see <00:19:11.533>something <00:19:11.697>that <00:19:11.862>slipped <00:19:12.027>through

503
00:19:12.155 --> 00:19:14.795
<00:19:12.155>and <00:19:12.282>maybe <00:19:12.409>didn't <00:19:12.536>get <00:19:12.664>like <00:19:12.791>a, <00:19:12.918>a, <00:19:13.045>you <00:19:13.173>know, <00:19:13.300>adult <00:19:13.427>content <00:19:13.555>tag

504
00:19:14.815 --> 00:19:17.635
<00:19:14.815>or, <00:19:14.955>or <00:19:15.095>label, <00:19:15.235>they <00:19:15.375>can <00:19:15.515>report <00:19:15.655>it <00:19:15.795>to <00:19:15.935>our <00:19:16.075>moderation <00:19:16.215>service.

505
00:19:17.635 --> 00:19:19.115
<00:19:17.635>They <00:19:17.825>can <00:19:18.015>actually <00:19:18.205>report <00:19:18.396>it <00:19:18.586>to <00:19:18.776>any <00:19:18.967>moderation

506
00:19:19.115 --> 00:19:20.275
<00:19:19.115>service <00:19:19.376>that <00:19:19.637>they <00:19:19.898>subscribe <00:19:20.159>to.

507
00:19:20.815 --> 00:19:23.675
<00:19:20.815>And <00:19:21.048>those <00:19:21.281>moderation <00:19:21.515>services <00:19:21.748>then <00:19:21.981>can <00:19:22.215>decide

508
00:19:23.675 --> 00:19:24.715
<00:19:23.675>to <00:19:23.986>apply <00:19:24.299>those <00:19:24.610>labels.

509
00:19:24.715 --> 00:19:28.335
<00:19:24.715>And <00:19:24.948>so <00:19:25.181>those <00:19:25.415>labels <00:19:25.648>apply <00:19:25.881>no <00:19:26.115>matter

510
00:19:28.335 --> 00:19:29.535
<00:19:28.335>where <00:19:28.605>you <00:19:28.875>fetch <00:19:29.145>this <00:19:29.415>data.

511
00:19:29.595 --> 00:19:32.495
<00:19:29.595>So <00:19:29.735>if <00:19:29.875>you're <00:19:30.015>fetching <00:19:30.155>like <00:19:30.295>your, <00:19:30.435>your <00:19:30.575>replies <00:19:30.715>on <00:19:30.855>your <00:19:30.995>blog,

512
00:19:32.915 --> 00:19:36.735
<00:19:32.915>um, <00:19:33.090>and <00:19:33.264>you, <00:19:33.440>uh, <00:19:33.615>subscribe <00:19:33.790>to <00:19:33.965>certain <00:19:34.139>moderation <00:19:34.315>services,

513
00:19:36.985 --> 00:19:39.935
<00:19:36.985>those <00:19:37.140>labels <00:19:37.296>will <00:19:37.451>be <00:19:37.607>applied, <00:19:37.762>that <00:19:37.918>content <00:19:38.073>will <00:19:38.229>be <00:19:38.385>filtered.

514
00:19:39.935 --> 00:19:41.815
<00:19:39.935>And <00:19:40.075>you <00:19:40.215>can <00:19:40.355>do <00:19:40.495>additional <00:19:40.635>filtering <00:19:40.774>on <00:19:40.915>the <00:19:41.054>front <00:19:41.195>end <00:19:41.335>too,

515
00:19:41.815 --> 00:19:44.375
<00:19:41.815>if <00:19:41.990>you <00:19:42.165>really <00:19:42.340>wanna <00:19:42.515>just <00:19:42.690>like <00:19:42.865>prevent <00:19:43.040>anything <00:19:43.215>from

516
00:19:44.375 --> 00:19:45.695
<00:19:44.375>slipping <00:19:44.612>through <00:19:44.850>that <00:19:45.087>kind <00:19:45.325>of <00:19:45.562>thing.

517
00:19:46.155 --> 00:19:47.455
<00:19:46.155>Um, <00:19:46.389>and <00:19:46.623>that's <00:19:46.857>like <00:19:47.091>what's <00:19:47.324>kind

518
00:19:47.455 --> 00:19:49.295
<00:19:47.455>of <00:19:47.610>like <00:19:47.766>really <00:19:47.921>interesting <00:19:48.077>about <00:19:48.232>Blue <00:19:48.388>Sky <00:19:48.543>is <00:19:48.699>this <00:19:48.855>idea

519
00:19:49.295 --> 00:19:50.855
<00:19:49.295>of <00:19:49.761>like <00:19:50.228>stackable <00:19:50.695>moderation.

520
00:19:50.875 --> 00:19:53.535
<00:19:50.875>You <00:19:51.030>can <00:19:51.186>combine <00:19:51.341>all <00:19:51.497>these <00:19:51.652>different <00:19:51.808>sources <00:19:51.963>of, <00:19:52.119>of <00:19:52.275>data.

521
00:19:53.795 --> 00:19:55.255
<00:19:53.795>You <00:19:54.014>can <00:19:54.233>run <00:19:54.452>your <00:19:54.671>own <00:19:54.890>automation <00:19:55.109>tools

522
00:19:55.635 --> 00:19:57.655
<00:19:55.635>and <00:19:55.790>you <00:19:55.946>can <00:19:56.101>apply <00:19:56.257>your <00:19:56.412>own <00:19:56.568>labels <00:19:56.723>to <00:19:56.879>these <00:19:57.035>posts.

523
00:19:58.195 --> 00:20:00.815
<00:19:58.195>Um, <00:19:58.350>and <00:19:58.506>then <00:19:58.661>that <00:19:58.817>data <00:19:58.972>is <00:19:59.128>now <00:19:59.283>like <00:19:59.439>globally <00:19:59.595>available,

524
00:20:00.915 --> 00:20:02.575
<00:20:00.915>and <00:20:01.115>so <00:20:01.315>people <00:20:01.514>can, <00:20:01.715>can <00:20:01.915>react <00:20:02.115>to <00:20:02.315>it.

525
00:20:03.375 --> 00:20:05.775
<00:20:03.375>Hmm. <00:20:03.515>I <00:20:03.655>mean, <00:20:03.795>it <00:20:03.935>always <00:20:04.075>feels <00:20:04.215>like <00:20:04.355>weird <00:20:04.495>that <00:20:04.635>you <00:20:04.775>want

526
00:20:05.775 --> 00:20:07.695
<00:20:05.775>to <00:20:06.008>filter <00:20:06.241>things <00:20:06.475>at <00:20:06.708>the <00:20:06.941>same <00:20:07.175>time.

527
00:20:07.885 --> 00:20:10.375
<00:20:07.885>I've, <00:20:08.025>I <00:20:08.165>mean, <00:20:08.305>I <00:20:08.445>worked <00:20:08.585>for <00:20:08.725>Yahoo, <00:20:08.865>I <00:20:09.004>worked <00:20:09.145>for <00:20:09.285>lots

528
00:20:10.375 --> 00:20:11.735
<00:20:10.375>and <00:20:10.681>lots <00:20:10.986>of <00:20:11.293>community <00:20:11.599>places,

529
00:20:12.395 --> 00:20:15.295
<00:20:12.395>and <00:20:12.628>the <00:20:12.861>self, <00:20:13.095>uh, <00:20:13.328>uh, <00:20:13.561>filtering <00:20:13.795>community

530
00:20:15.475 --> 00:20:18.175
<00:20:15.475>or <00:20:15.754>like <00:20:16.034>a <00:20:16.314>community <00:20:16.594>note <00:20:16.875>mm-hmm.

531
00:20:18.335 --> 00:20:20.735
<00:20:18.335>Doesn't <00:20:18.510>work. <00:20:18.685>Not <00:20:18.860>in <00:20:19.035>the <00:20:19.210>times <00:20:19.385>of <00:20:19.560>bot <00:20:19.735>armies

532
00:20:20.735 --> 00:20:22.255
<00:20:20.735>that <00:20:20.963>actually <00:20:21.191>can <00:20:21.419>up <00:20:21.647>upload <00:20:21.875>things, <00:20:22.103>right.

533
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<00:20:22.255>That <00:20:22.534>other <00:20:22.813>people <00:20:23.091>don't <00:20:23.370>vote.

534
00:20:23.635 --> 00:20:25.335
<00:20:23.635>So <00:20:23.868>there <00:20:24.101>has <00:20:24.335>to <00:20:24.568>be <00:20:24.801>a <00:20:25.035>level,

535
00:20:25.435 --> 00:20:27.695
<00:20:25.435>and <00:20:25.635>of <00:20:25.835>course <00:20:26.034>if <00:20:26.235>you're <00:20:26.435>werent <00:20:26.635>open <00:20:26.835>source,

536
00:20:27.725 --> 00:20:29.415
<00:20:27.725>then <00:20:27.958>the <00:20:28.191>bad <00:20:28.425>players <00:20:28.658>would <00:20:28.891>be <00:20:29.125>able,

537
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<00:20:29.505>would <00:20:29.737>find <00:20:29.970>ways <00:20:30.202>to <00:20:30.435>work <00:20:30.667>around <00:20:30.900>it.

538
00:20:31.475 --> 00:20:33.535
<00:20:31.475>So <00:20:31.602>there <00:20:31.729>has <00:20:31.856>to <00:20:31.984>be <00:20:32.111>a <00:20:32.238>bit <00:20:32.365>of <00:20:32.493>a <00:20:32.620>secrecy <00:20:32.747>in <00:20:32.875>there,

539
00:20:33.555 --> 00:20:35.335
<00:20:33.555>but <00:20:33.710>it <00:20:33.866>always <00:20:34.021>feels <00:20:34.177>kind <00:20:34.332>of <00:20:34.488>icky <00:20:34.643>to <00:20:34.799>do <00:20:34.955>it

540
00:20:35.335 --> 00:20:36.895
<00:20:35.335>as <00:20:35.615>an <00:20:35.895>open <00:20:36.175>source <00:20:36.455>person. <00:20:36.735>Right.

541
00:20:37.845 --> 00:20:40.615
<00:20:37.845>Yeah. <00:20:38.020>Well <00:20:38.195>actually, <00:20:38.370>I <00:20:38.545>mean, <00:20:38.720>I <00:20:38.895>think <00:20:39.070>essentially <00:20:39.245>all

542
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<00:20:40.615>of <00:20:40.790>our <00:20:40.965>stuff <00:20:41.140>is <00:20:41.315>open <00:20:41.490>source, <00:20:41.665>except <00:20:41.840>for <00:20:42.015>some

543
00:20:42.575 --> 00:20:44.055
<00:20:42.575>of <00:20:42.908>those <00:20:43.241>like <00:20:43.574>sensitive <00:20:43.907>APIs,

544
00:20:44.055 --> 00:20:46.615
<00:20:44.055>we're <00:20:44.210>using <00:20:44.366>third <00:20:44.521>party <00:20:44.677>services <00:20:44.832>for, <00:20:44.988>you <00:20:45.143>know, <00:20:45.299>the, <00:20:45.455>um,

545
00:20:46.935 --> 00:20:48.245
<00:20:46.935>child <00:20:47.170>content <00:20:47.406>and <00:20:47.642>things <00:20:47.878>like <00:20:48.113>that.

546
00:20:48.905 --> 00:20:50.685
<00:20:48.905>And <00:20:49.060>which <00:20:49.216>makes <00:20:49.371>it, <00:20:49.527>it <00:20:49.682>does <00:20:49.838>make <00:20:49.993>it <00:20:50.149>actually <00:20:50.305>quite

547
00:20:50.885 --> 00:20:52.125
<00:20:50.885>interesting <00:20:51.164>because <00:20:51.443>people, <00:20:51.722>you <00:20:52.001>know,

548
00:20:52.385 --> 00:20:53.885
<00:20:52.385>do <00:20:52.577>have <00:20:52.770>a <00:20:52.963>pretty <00:20:53.156>good <00:20:53.349>understanding <00:20:53.542>of <00:20:53.735>how

549
00:20:53.885 --> 00:20:54.885
<00:20:53.885>to <00:20:54.185>game <00:20:54.485>the <00:20:54.785>system.

550
00:20:54.985 --> 00:20:58.085
<00:20:54.985>And <00:20:55.092>so <00:20:55.200>it <00:20:55.308>has <00:20:55.415>made <00:20:55.523>it <00:20:55.631>kind <00:20:55.738>of <00:20:55.846>a <00:20:55.954>unique <00:20:56.061>challenge <00:20:56.169>for <00:20:56.277>us, <00:20:56.385>um,

551
00:20:58.145 --> 00:20:59.725
<00:20:58.145>you <00:20:58.378>know, <00:20:58.611>to <00:20:58.845>react <00:20:59.078>faster <00:20:59.311>than <00:20:59.545>the,

552
00:20:59.725 --> 00:21:01.445
<00:20:59.725>the <00:20:59.925>spammers <00:21:00.125>we're <00:21:00.324>getting <00:21:00.524>quite <00:21:00.725>good <00:21:00.925>at <00:21:01.125>it.

553
00:21:01.625 --> 00:21:03.805
<00:21:01.625>Um, <00:21:01.780>I <00:21:01.936>know <00:21:02.091>for <00:21:02.247>instance, <00:21:02.402>yesterday <00:21:02.558>we <00:21:02.713>saw <00:21:02.869>a <00:21:03.025>wave

554
00:21:04.185 --> 00:21:07.605
<00:21:04.185>and, <00:21:04.312>uh, <00:21:04.439>I <00:21:04.566>think <00:21:04.694>we <00:21:04.821>were <00:21:04.948>taking <00:21:05.075>down <00:21:05.203>25 <00:21:05.330>accounts <00:21:05.457>a <00:21:05.585>second.

555
00:21:08.145 --> 00:21:10.565
<00:21:08.145>Um, <00:21:08.300>wow. <00:21:08.456>Which <00:21:08.611>is <00:21:08.767>like, <00:21:08.922>you <00:21:09.078>know, <00:21:09.233>that's <00:21:09.389>pretty <00:21:09.545>good.

556
00:21:10.565 --> 00:21:12.085
<00:21:10.565>We're <00:21:10.838>reacting <00:21:11.112>quite <00:21:11.385>fast <00:21:11.659>to <00:21:11.933>some

557
00:21:12.085 --> 00:21:13.565
<00:21:12.085>of <00:21:12.233>these <00:21:12.381>things <00:21:12.529>now, <00:21:12.677>so <00:21:12.825>we're <00:21:12.973>getting <00:21:13.121>better <00:21:13.269>and <00:21:13.417>better.

558
00:21:13.565 --> 00:21:16.005
<00:21:13.565>We're, <00:21:13.720>we're <00:21:13.876>definitely <00:21:14.031>aware <00:21:14.187>of, <00:21:14.342>um, <00:21:14.498>of <00:21:14.653>the <00:21:14.809>spam <00:21:14.965>problem

559
00:21:16.025 --> 00:21:17.525
<00:21:16.025>and <00:21:16.250>the <00:21:16.475>challenges <00:21:16.700>that, <00:21:16.925>uh, <00:21:17.150>you <00:21:17.375>know,

560
00:21:17.525 --> 00:21:18.965
<00:21:17.525>that <00:21:17.710>face <00:21:17.895>us <00:21:18.080>in <00:21:18.265>that, <00:21:18.450>in <00:21:18.635>that <00:21:18.821>regard.

561
00:21:18.985 --> 00:21:21.125
<00:21:18.985>But, <00:21:19.140>you <00:21:19.296>know, <00:21:19.451>we'll, <00:21:19.607>we'll <00:21:19.762>improve <00:21:19.918>over <00:21:20.073>time <00:21:20.229>for <00:21:20.385>sure.

562
00:21:22.125 --> 00:21:23.365
<00:21:22.125>I <00:21:22.348>did <00:21:22.571>the <00:21:22.794>recording <00:21:23.017>for <00:21:23.241>coffee

563
00:21:23.365 --> 00:21:25.805
<00:21:23.365>with <00:21:23.645>developers <00:21:23.925>earlier <00:21:24.205>about <00:21:24.485>image <00:21:24.765>recognition

564
00:21:25.825 --> 00:21:28.365
<00:21:25.825>and, <00:21:26.058>uh, <00:21:26.291>automatic <00:21:26.525>image, <00:21:26.758>uh, <00:21:26.991>uh, <00:21:27.225>analysis.

565
00:21:28.825 --> 00:21:29.965
<00:21:28.825>And <00:21:29.081>I, <00:21:29.338>I <00:21:29.594>love <00:21:29.851>that.

566
00:21:29.965 --> 00:21:33.045
<00:21:29.965>Years <00:21:30.105>ago <00:21:30.245>that <00:21:30.385>was <00:21:30.524>the <00:21:30.665>thing <00:21:30.804>that <00:21:30.945>sand <00:21:31.084>dunes <00:21:31.225>were <00:21:31.365>actually,

567
00:21:33.225 --> 00:21:34.965
<00:21:33.225>uh, <00:21:33.504>uh, <00:21:33.784>filtered <00:21:34.064>as <00:21:34.344>adult <00:21:34.625>content.

568
00:21:35.665 --> 00:21:37.485
<00:21:35.665>Oh, <00:21:35.820>oh, <00:21:35.976>really? <00:21:36.131>It <00:21:36.287>looked <00:21:36.442>like, <00:21:36.598>heard <00:21:36.753>of <00:21:36.909>that <00:21:37.065>one.

569
00:21:37.485 --> 00:21:39.685
<00:21:37.485>That's <00:21:37.625>arms <00:21:37.764>and <00:21:37.905>legs <00:21:38.044>kind <00:21:38.185>of <00:21:38.324>thing, <00:21:38.465>like, <00:21:38.604>you <00:21:38.745>know, <00:21:38.885>like,

570
00:21:39.745 --> 00:21:42.165
<00:21:39.745>and <00:21:39.885>uh, <00:21:40.024>that <00:21:40.165>was <00:21:40.304>a <00:21:40.445>big <00:21:40.584>problem <00:21:40.725>that <00:21:40.864>there <00:21:41.004>was, <00:21:41.145>the,

571
00:21:42.165 --> 00:21:45.885
<00:21:42.165>the <00:21:42.320>system <00:21:42.476>didn't <00:21:42.631>quite <00:21:42.787>understand <00:21:42.942>that <00:21:43.098>in <00:21:43.253>terms <00:21:43.409>of <00:21:43.565>traffic.

572
00:21:46.065 --> 00:21:47.685
<00:21:46.065>You <00:21:46.265>saw <00:21:46.465>a <00:21:46.665>few <00:21:46.865>spikes <00:21:47.065>at <00:21:47.265>the <00:21:47.465>beginning.

573
00:21:47.715 --> 00:21:49.125
<00:21:47.715>Like <00:21:47.968>there <00:21:48.222>were <00:21:48.476>lots <00:21:48.730>of <00:21:48.984>headlines

574
00:21:49.125 --> 00:21:51.925
<00:21:49.125>that <00:21:49.265>like <00:21:49.405>Blue <00:21:49.545>Sky <00:21:49.685>got <00:21:49.825>like <00:21:49.965>200,000 <00:21:50.105>more <00:21:50.245>users <00:21:50.385>or <00:21:50.525>whatever.

575
00:21:52.545 --> 00:21:56.885
<00:21:52.545>Um, <00:21:52.685>uh, <00:21:52.825>did, <00:21:52.965>was <00:21:53.105>it, <00:21:53.245>was <00:21:53.385>it <00:21:53.525>like, <00:21:53.665>was <00:21:53.805>there <00:21:53.945>waves

576
00:21:56.885 --> 00:21:58.325
<00:21:56.885>and <00:21:57.101>waves <00:21:57.317>of <00:21:57.533>more <00:21:57.749>people <00:21:57.965>coming <00:21:58.181>in?

577
00:21:58.325 --> 00:22:00.645
<00:21:58.325>Or <00:21:58.525>is <00:21:58.725>it <00:21:58.925>the <00:21:59.125>continuous, <00:21:59.325>uh, <00:21:59.525>uh, <00:21:59.725>growth

578
00:22:00.705 --> 00:22:02.565
<00:22:00.705>or <00:22:00.905>is <00:22:01.105>there <00:22:01.304>a <00:22:01.504>decline <00:22:01.705>happening <00:22:01.905>right <00:22:02.105>now?

579
00:22:02.625 --> 00:22:04.925
<00:22:02.625>So <00:22:02.858>what's <00:22:03.091>the, <00:22:03.325>what's <00:22:03.558>the <00:22:03.791>situation <00:22:04.025>like?

580
00:22:06.305 --> 00:22:07.675
<00:22:06.305>Yeah, <00:22:06.613>it's, <00:22:06.921>it's <00:22:07.229>been <00:22:07.538>interesting.

581
00:22:07.735 --> 00:22:10.835
<00:22:07.735>Um, <00:22:07.862>when <00:22:07.989>I <00:22:08.116>joined, <00:22:08.244>I <00:22:08.371>think <00:22:08.498>we <00:22:08.625>were <00:22:08.753>at <00:22:08.880>about <00:22:09.007>180,000 <00:22:09.135>users.

582
00:22:11.215 --> 00:22:13.395
<00:22:11.215>And <00:22:11.370>back <00:22:11.526>then, <00:22:11.681>a, <00:22:11.837>a <00:22:11.992>wave <00:22:12.148>of <00:22:12.303>200,000 <00:22:12.459>users <00:22:12.615>was,

583
00:22:13.415 --> 00:22:14.555
<00:22:13.415>is <00:22:13.757>obviously <00:22:14.099>very <00:22:14.441>exciting.

584
00:22:15.035 --> 00:22:18.315
<00:22:15.035>I <00:22:15.175>think <00:22:15.315>we <00:22:15.455>broke <00:22:15.595>a <00:22:15.735>million <00:22:15.875>sometime <00:22:16.015>in <00:22:16.155>fall <00:22:16.295>of <00:22:16.435>2023,

585
00:22:18.725 --> 00:22:20.715
<00:22:18.725>maybe <00:22:18.958>September <00:22:19.191>or <00:22:19.425>October, <00:22:19.658>something <00:22:19.891>like <00:22:20.125>that.

586
00:22:21.665 --> 00:22:22.685
<00:22:21.665>And <00:22:21.894>since <00:22:22.124>then <00:22:22.353>it's <00:22:22.582>gone.

587
00:22:22.685 --> 00:22:24.245
<00:22:22.685>And <00:22:22.860>just <00:22:23.034>sort <00:22:23.210>of, <00:22:23.385>um, <00:22:23.560>what <00:22:23.735>I, <00:22:23.909>what <00:22:24.085>I,

588
00:22:24.245 --> 00:22:27.485
<00:22:24.245>what <00:22:24.400>I <00:22:24.556>understand <00:22:24.711>is <00:22:24.867>a <00:22:25.022>fairly <00:22:25.178>standard <00:22:25.333>growth, <00:22:25.489>um, <00:22:25.645>curve

589
00:22:27.705 --> 00:22:30.485
<00:22:27.705>for <00:22:27.860>social <00:22:28.016>networks <00:22:28.171>like <00:22:28.327>this <00:22:28.482>called <00:22:28.638>like <00:22:28.793>a <00:22:28.949>step <00:22:29.105>function.

590
00:22:30.545 --> 00:22:33.685
<00:22:30.545>And <00:22:30.685>so, <00:22:30.825>you <00:22:30.965>know, <00:22:31.105>we <00:22:31.245>hit <00:22:31.385>that <00:22:31.525>1 <00:22:31.665>million <00:22:31.805>growth, <00:22:31.945>uh,

591
00:22:33.715 --> 00:22:35.365
<00:22:33.715>just <00:22:33.915>over <00:22:34.115>a <00:22:34.314>year <00:22:34.514>ago <00:22:34.715>we <00:22:34.915>released, <00:22:35.115>um,

592
00:22:35.705 --> 00:22:37.005
<00:22:35.705>or <00:22:35.997>we <00:22:36.290>removed <00:22:36.582>invite <00:22:36.875>codes

593
00:22:37.065 --> 00:22:40.285
<00:22:37.065>and <00:22:37.172>we <00:22:37.280>saw <00:22:37.388>a <00:22:37.495>growth <00:22:37.603>from <00:22:37.711>there <00:22:37.818>as <00:22:37.926>well <00:22:38.034>up <00:22:38.141>to, <00:22:38.249>I <00:22:38.357>think, <00:22:38.465>gosh,

594
00:22:40.445 --> 00:22:41.685
<00:22:40.445>I <00:22:40.584>think <00:22:40.724>at <00:22:40.863>that <00:22:41.003>point <00:22:41.142>we're <00:22:41.282>at <00:22:41.421>like <00:22:41.561>three

595
00:22:41.685 --> 00:22:43.565
<00:22:41.685>or <00:22:41.860>4 <00:22:42.034>million, <00:22:42.210>maybe <00:22:42.385>5 <00:22:42.560>million, <00:22:42.735>something <00:22:42.909>like <00:22:43.085>that.

596
00:22:44.145 --> 00:22:45.925
<00:22:44.145>And <00:22:44.285>then, <00:22:44.425>you <00:22:44.565>know, <00:22:44.705>we <00:22:44.845>stayed <00:22:44.985>flat <00:22:45.125>for <00:22:45.264>a <00:22:45.405>long <00:22:45.545>time

597
00:22:45.925 --> 00:22:48.325
<00:22:45.925>and <00:22:46.065>then <00:22:46.205>we <00:22:46.345>see <00:22:46.485>another, <00:22:46.625>we <00:22:46.764>saw <00:22:46.905>a <00:22:47.044>big, <00:22:47.185>uh, <00:22:47.325>wave

598
00:22:48.325 --> 00:22:49.565
<00:22:48.325>of <00:22:48.697>Brazilian <00:22:49.069>users <00:22:49.441>joining

599
00:22:49.665 --> 00:22:51.845
<00:22:49.665>and <00:22:49.820>we <00:22:49.976>jumped <00:22:50.131>up <00:22:50.287>to <00:22:50.442>something <00:22:50.598>like <00:22:50.753>seven <00:22:50.909>or <00:22:51.065>eight.

600
00:22:52.185 --> 00:22:53.685
<00:22:52.185>And <00:22:52.522>then <00:22:52.860>in <00:22:53.197>November, <00:22:53.534>it's

601
00:22:53.685 --> 00:22:55.045
<00:22:53.685>around <00:22:53.889>the <00:22:54.093>election, <00:22:54.297>that <00:22:54.501>kind <00:22:54.705>of <00:22:54.909>thing.

602
00:22:55.045 --> 00:22:57.005
<00:22:55.045>We, <00:22:55.278>you <00:22:55.511>know, <00:22:55.745>over <00:22:55.978>tripled <00:22:56.211>the <00:22:56.445>network.

603
00:22:57.265 --> 00:22:59.765
<00:22:57.265>And <00:22:57.381>so <00:22:57.498>it <00:22:57.615>goes <00:22:57.731>in <00:22:57.848>these <00:22:57.965>kind <00:22:58.081>of <00:22:58.198>waves <00:22:58.315>of <00:22:58.431>like, <00:22:58.548>you <00:22:58.665>know,

604
00:22:59.835 --> 00:23:01.205
<00:22:59.835>goes <00:23:00.040>up <00:23:00.246>and <00:23:00.451>then <00:23:00.657>it <00:23:00.862>flattens <00:23:01.068>out

605
00:23:01.205 --> 00:23:02.645
<00:23:01.205>and <00:23:01.349>it <00:23:01.493>goes <00:23:01.637>back <00:23:01.781>up <00:23:01.925>and <00:23:02.069>then <00:23:02.213>it <00:23:02.357>flattens <00:23:02.501>out.

606
00:23:02.645 --> 00:23:04.085
<00:23:02.645>And <00:23:02.860>then <00:23:03.077>now <00:23:03.293>we <00:23:03.509>jumped <00:23:03.725>way <00:23:03.941>up

607
00:23:04.385 --> 00:23:06.085
<00:23:04.385>and, <00:23:04.525>you <00:23:04.665>know, <00:23:04.805>we've <00:23:04.945>kind <00:23:05.085>of <00:23:05.225>flattened <00:23:05.365>out <00:23:05.504>a <00:23:05.645>little <00:23:05.785>bit,

608
00:23:06.145 --> 00:23:08.285
<00:23:06.145>but <00:23:06.285>it's <00:23:06.425>actually <00:23:06.565>in <00:23:06.705>the <00:23:06.845>last <00:23:06.985>few <00:23:07.125>weeks <00:23:07.264>we've, <00:23:07.405>you <00:23:07.545>know,

609
00:23:08.285 --> 00:23:09.485
<00:23:08.285>started <00:23:08.825>spiking <00:23:09.365>again.

610
00:23:09.985 --> 00:23:13.645
<00:23:09.985>Um, <00:23:10.140>if <00:23:10.296>you <00:23:10.451>look <00:23:10.607>back <00:23:10.762>at <00:23:10.918>growth <00:23:11.073>from <00:23:11.229>Instagram, <00:23:11.385>uh,

611
00:23:13.705 --> 00:23:16.445
<00:23:13.705>for <00:23:13.879>instance, <00:23:14.054>their <00:23:14.230>next <00:23:14.405>step <00:23:14.580>function <00:23:14.754>once <00:23:14.929>they <00:23:15.105>got

612
00:23:16.445 --> 00:23:18.485
<00:23:16.445>to <00:23:16.600>like <00:23:16.756>the <00:23:16.911>30 <00:23:17.067>million <00:23:17.222>point <00:23:17.378>was <00:23:17.533>about <00:23:17.689>80 <00:23:17.845>million.

613
00:23:18.825 --> 00:23:20.765
<00:23:18.825>So, <00:23:18.980>you <00:23:19.136>know, <00:23:19.291>we're <00:23:19.447>all, <00:23:19.602>we're <00:23:19.758>all <00:23:19.913>rooting <00:23:20.069>for <00:23:20.225>that.

614
00:23:21.225 --> 00:23:22.445
<00:23:21.225>Um, <00:23:21.408>you'll <00:23:21.591>see <00:23:21.774>if <00:23:21.956>we <00:23:22.139>get <00:23:22.322>there.

615
00:23:22.465 --> 00:23:23.965
<00:23:22.465>But, <00:23:22.915>uh, <00:23:23.365>but, <00:23:23.814>uh,

616
00:23:24.025 --> 00:23:25.485
<00:23:24.025>but <00:23:24.244>yeah, <00:23:24.463>no, <00:23:24.682>I <00:23:24.901>think <00:23:25.120>we're <00:23:25.339>following

617
00:23:25.525 --> 00:23:26.605
<00:23:25.525>a <00:23:25.849>pretty <00:23:26.173>standard <00:23:26.497>curve.

618
00:23:26.605 --> 00:23:29.365
<00:23:26.605>There <00:23:26.805>are <00:23:27.005>ebbs <00:23:27.205>and <00:23:27.405>flows <00:23:27.605>of, <00:23:27.805>of <00:23:28.005>interest.

619
00:23:29.825 --> 00:23:31.845
<00:23:29.825>Um, <00:23:30.000>you <00:23:30.175>know, <00:23:30.350>when <00:23:30.525>when <00:23:30.700>we <00:23:30.875>release <00:23:31.050>new <00:23:31.225>features,

620
00:23:32.185 --> 00:23:34.165
<00:23:32.185>we <00:23:32.312>get <00:23:32.439>a <00:23:32.566>few <00:23:32.694>more, <00:23:32.821>you <00:23:32.948>know, <00:23:33.075>we <00:23:33.203>get <00:23:33.330>some <00:23:33.457>more <00:23:33.585>excitement,

621
00:23:34.165 --> 00:23:37.005
<00:23:34.165>people <00:23:34.320>kind <00:23:34.476>of <00:23:34.631>log <00:23:34.787>back <00:23:34.942>on <00:23:35.098>sometimes, <00:23:35.253>like, <00:23:35.409>you <00:23:35.565>know,

622
00:23:37.005 --> 00:23:38.045
<00:23:37.005>there's <00:23:37.317>criticism <00:23:37.629>of <00:23:37.941>us

623
00:23:38.045 --> 00:23:39.525
<00:23:38.045>and <00:23:38.311>you <00:23:38.577>know, <00:23:38.844>sometimes <00:23:39.110>rightfully <00:23:39.377>so,

624
00:23:39.525 --> 00:23:41.125
<00:23:39.525>and, <00:23:39.700>you <00:23:39.875>know, <00:23:40.050>things <00:23:40.225>kind <00:23:40.400>of <00:23:40.575>ebb <00:23:40.750>and <00:23:40.925>flow.

625
00:23:41.585 --> 00:23:43.725
<00:23:41.585>Um, <00:23:41.760>but <00:23:41.935>overall, <00:23:42.110>I <00:23:42.285>think <00:23:42.460>we've <00:23:42.635>seen, <00:23:42.810>you <00:23:42.985>know,

626
00:23:43.725 --> 00:23:46.030
<00:23:43.725>essentially <00:23:44.004>just <00:23:44.284>ever <00:23:44.564>upwards <00:23:44.844>like, <00:23:45.125>uh,

627
00:23:46.145 --> 00:23:48.725
<00:23:46.145>at <00:23:46.300>the <00:23:46.456>moment <00:23:46.611>the <00:23:46.767>growth <00:23:46.922>is, <00:23:47.078>is <00:23:47.233>still <00:23:47.389>sustaining <00:23:47.545>and,

628
00:23:48.725 --> 00:23:50.725
<00:23:48.725>and <00:23:48.899>it's, <00:23:49.074>uh, <00:23:49.250>super <00:23:49.425>exciting <00:23:49.600>for <00:23:49.774>all <00:23:49.949>of <00:23:50.125>us.

629
00:23:51.945 --> 00:23:55.525
<00:23:51.945>So, <00:23:52.061>uh, <00:23:52.178>how <00:23:52.294>does <00:23:52.411>it <00:23:52.528>work <00:23:52.645>in <00:23:52.761>terms <00:23:52.878>of <00:23:52.995>like, <00:23:53.111>when <00:23:53.228>you <00:23:53.345>reach,

630
00:23:56.025 --> 00:23:58.565
<00:23:56.025>say <00:23:56.225>a, <00:23:56.425>uh, <00:23:56.625>a <00:23:56.825>Taylor <00:23:57.025>Swift <00:23:57.225>tomorrow <00:23:57.425>says,

631
00:23:58.645 --> 00:24:02.445
<00:23:58.645>I <00:23:58.800>only <00:23:58.956>do <00:23:59.111>blueprint <00:23:59.267>from <00:23:59.422>now <00:23:59.578>on <00:23:59.733>traffic <00:23:59.889>costs <00:24:00.045>money,

632
00:24:02.675 --> 00:24:04.765
<00:24:02.675>like <00:24:03.024>machine <00:24:03.375>computing <00:24:03.725>costs <00:24:04.075>money.

633
00:24:04.875 --> 00:24:06.685
<00:24:04.875>Like <00:24:05.155>how <00:24:05.435>do <00:24:05.715>you <00:24:05.995>make <00:24:06.275>money?

634
00:24:07.025 --> 00:24:10.605
<00:24:07.025>Or <00:24:07.165>do <00:24:07.305>you, <00:24:07.445>because <00:24:07.585>of <00:24:07.725>the <00:24:07.865>distributed, <00:24:08.005>uh, <00:24:08.145>nature, <00:24:08.285>you <00:24:08.425>have

635
00:24:10.605 --> 00:24:12.725
<00:24:10.605>to <00:24:10.955>call <00:24:11.305>care, <00:24:11.655>uh, <00:24:12.005>care

636
00:24:12.725 --> 00:24:14.245
<00:24:12.725>for <00:24:12.920>a <00:24:13.115>lot <00:24:13.311>less <00:24:13.506>traffic <00:24:13.702>than <00:24:13.897>others <00:24:14.092>do?

637
00:24:14.345 --> 00:24:16.605
<00:24:14.345>Or <00:24:14.578>what's, <00:24:14.811>what's <00:24:15.045>the <00:24:15.278>model <00:24:15.511>behind <00:24:15.745>it?

638
00:24:16.605 --> 00:24:18.925
<00:24:16.605>Like, <00:24:16.760>how <00:24:16.916>secure <00:24:17.071>is <00:24:17.227>it <00:24:17.382>that <00:24:17.538>we <00:24:17.693>will <00:24:17.849>have, <00:24:18.005>even

639
00:24:19.225 --> 00:24:21.485
<00:24:19.225>beyond <00:24:19.425>Taylor <00:24:19.625>Swift, <00:24:19.824>we <00:24:20.024>will <00:24:20.225>have <00:24:20.425>Blue <00:24:20.625>Sky?

640
00:24:21.875 --> 00:24:22.885
<00:24:21.875>Yeah, <00:24:22.102>it's <00:24:22.329>a <00:24:22.556>good <00:24:22.784>question.

641
00:24:22.945 --> 00:24:25.805
<00:24:22.945>We, <00:24:23.072>we <00:24:23.199>often <00:24:23.326>use, <00:24:23.454>uh, <00:24:23.581>Taylor <00:24:23.708>Swift <00:24:23.835>as <00:24:23.963>the <00:24:24.090>example <00:24:24.217>as <00:24:24.345>well,

642
00:24:25.865 --> 00:24:29.525
<00:24:25.865>so, <00:24:26.020>uh, <00:24:26.176>Taylor, <00:24:26.331>if <00:24:26.487>you're <00:24:26.642>listening, <00:24:26.798>um, <00:24:26.953>let <00:24:27.109>us <00:24:27.265>know.

643
00:24:29.705 --> 00:24:31.165
<00:24:29.705>Let <00:24:29.924>us <00:24:30.143>know <00:24:30.361>what <00:24:30.581>you're <00:24:30.800>thinking <00:24:31.019>because

644
00:24:31.445 --> 00:24:32.645
<00:24:31.445>I <00:24:31.599>call <00:24:31.753>her <00:24:31.907>later <00:24:32.062>and <00:24:32.216>it's <00:24:32.370>all <00:24:32.525>good.

645
00:24:32.645 --> 00:24:34.925
<00:24:32.645>Yeah, <00:24:32.845>yeah. <00:24:33.045>Okay. <00:24:33.245>Okay. <00:24:33.445>Yeah. <00:24:33.645>Line <00:24:33.845>up <00:24:34.045>anyway,

646
00:24:35.155 --> 00:24:36.165
<00:24:35.155>Text <00:24:35.284>or <00:24:35.414>later <00:24:35.544>and <00:24:35.674>just <00:24:35.804>let <00:24:35.934>her <00:24:36.064>know.

647
00:24:36.165 --> 00:24:38.445
<00:24:36.165>Yeah, <00:24:36.305>yeah, <00:24:36.445>that <00:24:36.585>will <00:24:36.725>be, <00:24:36.865>that <00:24:37.004>will <00:24:37.145>be <00:24:37.284>an <00:24:37.425>interesting <00:24:37.565>time.

648
00:24:39.105 --> 00:24:42.245
<00:24:39.105>Um, <00:24:39.280>thankfully <00:24:39.455>we <00:24:39.630>do <00:24:39.805>have <00:24:39.980>a <00:24:40.155>lot <00:24:40.330>of <00:24:40.505>capacity

649
00:24:42.245 --> 00:24:44.325
<00:24:42.245>and <00:24:42.445>we've <00:24:42.645>done <00:24:42.844>a <00:24:43.044>lot <00:24:43.245>to <00:24:43.445>make <00:24:43.645>our,

650
00:24:44.325 --> 00:24:46.165
<00:24:44.325>like <00:24:44.605>per <00:24:44.885>user <00:24:45.165>costs <00:24:45.445>quite <00:24:45.725>low.

651
00:24:46.745 --> 00:24:50.245
<00:24:46.745>Um, <00:24:46.900>a <00:24:47.056>while <00:24:47.211>back <00:24:47.367>we <00:24:47.522>moved <00:24:47.678>to <00:24:47.833>entirely <00:24:47.989>on-premises, <00:24:48.145>um,

652
00:24:50.825 --> 00:24:52.685
<00:24:50.825>infrastructure, <00:24:51.291>or <00:24:51.758>not <00:24:52.225>entirely.

653
00:24:52.725 --> 00:24:54.165
<00:24:52.725>I <00:24:52.869>mean, <00:24:53.013>we <00:24:53.157>have <00:24:53.301>some, <00:24:53.445>you <00:24:53.589>know, <00:24:53.733>we <00:24:53.877>have <00:24:54.021>redundancy

654
00:24:54.165 --> 00:24:55.485
<00:24:54.165>and <00:24:54.334>we <00:24:54.504>have <00:24:54.674>other <00:24:54.843>systems <00:24:55.013>external <00:24:55.183>to <00:24:55.352>that,

655
00:24:55.485 --> 00:24:56.525
<00:24:55.485>that <00:24:55.640>we, <00:24:55.797>that <00:24:55.953>we <00:24:56.109>use <00:24:56.265>as <00:24:56.421>well.

656
00:24:57.065 --> 00:24:58.885
<00:24:57.065>Um, <00:24:57.298>and <00:24:57.531>I'm <00:24:57.765>definitely <00:24:57.998>not <00:24:58.231>the <00:24:58.465>right

657
00:24:58.885 --> 00:24:59.925
<00:24:58.885>person <00:24:59.072>to <00:24:59.259>talk <00:24:59.446>to <00:24:59.633>about <00:24:59.821>that.

658
00:25:00.185 --> 00:25:02.045
<00:25:00.185>Uh, <00:25:00.418>that <00:25:00.651>stuff <00:25:00.885>is <00:25:01.118>super <00:25:01.351>interesting <00:25:01.585>though,

659
00:25:02.045 --> 00:25:03.525
<00:25:02.045>and <00:25:02.166>there's <00:25:02.287>a <00:25:02.408>lot <00:25:02.529>of <00:25:02.650>people <00:25:02.771>on <00:25:02.892>the <00:25:03.013>team <00:25:03.134>that <00:25:03.255>would <00:25:03.377>love

660
00:25:03.525 --> 00:25:04.725
<00:25:03.525>to <00:25:03.679>talk <00:25:03.833>about <00:25:03.987>it <00:25:04.142>if <00:25:04.296>you're <00:25:04.450>ever <00:25:04.605>interested.

661
00:25:05.345 --> 00:25:09.205
<00:25:05.345>Um, <00:25:05.500>but <00:25:05.656>yeah, <00:25:05.811>in <00:25:05.967>terms <00:25:06.122>of <00:25:06.278>like <00:25:06.433>handling <00:25:06.589>that <00:25:06.745>capacity,

662
00:25:09.305 --> 00:25:10.925
<00:25:09.305>we <00:25:09.585>should <00:25:09.865>be, <00:25:10.145>um, <00:25:10.425>pretty <00:25:10.705>good.

663
00:25:11.085 --> 00:25:12.005
<00:25:11.085>I <00:25:11.223>mean, <00:25:11.361>that's <00:25:11.499>like <00:25:11.637>kind <00:25:11.775>of <00:25:11.913>the

664
00:25:12.005 --> 00:25:12.965
<00:25:12.005>general <00:25:12.437>consensus <00:25:12.869>internally.

665
00:25:13.625 --> 00:25:15.165
<00:25:13.625>Of <00:25:13.856>course, <00:25:14.087>you <00:25:14.318>never <00:25:14.549>know, <00:25:14.780>you <00:25:15.011>know,

666
00:25:15.165 --> 00:25:16.285
<00:25:15.165>when <00:25:15.366>things <00:25:15.568>kind <00:25:15.769>of, <00:25:15.971>uh, <00:25:16.173>happen.

667
00:25:16.345 --> 00:25:19.205
<00:25:16.345>But <00:25:16.472>we've <00:25:16.599>done <00:25:16.726>a <00:25:16.854>lot, <00:25:16.981>um, <00:25:17.108>just <00:25:17.235>in <00:25:17.363>the <00:25:17.490>past <00:25:17.617>few <00:25:17.745>months

668
00:25:19.205 --> 00:25:21.125
<00:25:19.205>because <00:25:19.379>we've <00:25:19.554>seen <00:25:19.730>the, <00:25:19.905>the <00:25:20.080>network, <00:25:20.254>you <00:25:20.429>know, <00:25:20.605>triple,

669
00:25:21.125 --> 00:25:24.485
<00:25:21.125>almost <00:25:21.300>quadruple <00:25:21.475>at <00:25:21.650>this <00:25:21.825>point, <00:25:22.000>um, <00:25:22.175>to <00:25:22.350>make <00:25:22.525>all

670
00:25:24.485 --> 00:25:25.725
<00:25:24.485>of <00:25:24.764>our <00:25:25.043>systems <00:25:25.322>more <00:25:25.601>efficient.

671
00:25:25.865 --> 00:25:27.845
<00:25:25.865>That's <00:25:26.040>essentially <00:25:26.215>tied <00:25:26.390>up <00:25:26.565>a <00:25:26.740>lot <00:25:26.915>of <00:25:27.090>the <00:25:27.265>backend

672
00:25:27.845 --> 00:25:29.565
<00:25:27.845>and <00:25:28.045>infrastructure <00:25:28.245>team <00:25:28.445>for <00:25:28.645>the <00:25:28.845>last <00:25:29.045>few <00:25:29.245>months.

673
00:25:29.985 --> 00:25:31.925
<00:25:29.985>Um, <00:25:30.125>and <00:25:30.264>so <00:25:30.405>the, <00:25:30.544>the <00:25:30.685>work <00:25:30.824>I've <00:25:30.965>been <00:25:31.104>doing <00:25:31.245>has <00:25:31.385>essentially

674
00:25:31.925 --> 00:25:33.765
<00:25:31.925>been <00:25:32.100>like <00:25:32.274>without <00:25:32.450>a <00:25:32.625>backend, <00:25:32.800>uh, <00:25:32.975>team <00:25:33.149>to <00:25:33.325>kind

675
00:25:33.765 --> 00:25:35.125
<00:25:33.765>of <00:25:33.969>like, <00:25:34.173>you <00:25:34.377>know, <00:25:34.581>to <00:25:34.785>work <00:25:34.989>with.

676
00:25:35.225 --> 00:25:37.285
<00:25:35.225>So <00:25:35.341>it's <00:25:35.458>a <00:25:35.574>lot <00:25:35.691>of <00:25:35.808>just <00:25:35.925>front <00:25:36.041>end <00:25:36.158>tweaks <00:25:36.274>and <00:25:36.391>things <00:25:36.508>like <00:25:36.625>that.

677
00:25:37.745 --> 00:25:39.925
<00:25:37.745>But <00:25:37.885>yeah, <00:25:38.024>in <00:25:38.165>terms <00:25:38.304>of <00:25:38.445>like <00:25:38.584>trying <00:25:38.725>to <00:25:38.864>scale <00:25:39.004>and, <00:25:39.145>uh,

678
00:25:39.985 --> 00:25:42.405
<00:25:39.985>and <00:25:40.264>maintain <00:25:40.544>blue <00:25:40.824>sky <00:25:41.104>long <00:25:41.385>term

679
00:25:42.965 --> 00:25:44.405
<00:25:42.965>monetization <00:25:43.397>is <00:25:43.829>something <00:25:44.261>we're,

680
00:25:44.405 --> 00:25:45.725
<00:25:44.405>we're <00:25:44.642>definitely <00:25:44.880>starting <00:25:45.117>to <00:25:45.355>think <00:25:45.592>about.

681
00:25:46.225 --> 00:25:48.965
<00:25:46.225>Um, <00:25:46.380>I <00:25:46.536>don't <00:25:46.691>know <00:25:46.847>like <00:25:47.002>how <00:25:47.158>much <00:25:47.313>I <00:25:47.469>can <00:25:47.625>say

682
00:25:48.965 --> 00:25:51.805
<00:25:48.965>with <00:25:49.105>our <00:25:49.245>plans <00:25:49.385>there, <00:25:49.524>but <00:25:49.665>overall, <00:25:49.804>like, <00:25:49.945>uh, <00:25:50.084>we <00:25:50.225>don't <00:25:50.365>want

683
00:25:51.805 --> 00:25:55.505
<00:25:51.805>to <00:25:52.005>be <00:25:52.205>become <00:25:52.405>an <00:25:52.605>ad <00:25:52.805>sponsored <00:25:53.005>network, <00:25:53.205>um,

684
00:25:55.695 --> 00:25:59.305
<00:25:55.695>because <00:25:55.870>that <00:25:56.044>incentivizes <00:25:56.220>things <00:25:56.395>that <00:25:56.570>we <00:25:56.745>do <00:25:56.919>not <00:25:57.095>want

685
00:25:59.305 --> 00:26:00.465
<00:25:59.305>to <00:25:59.566>introduce <00:25:59.827>to <00:26:00.088>our <00:26:00.349>network.

686
00:26:00.525 --> 00:26:02.585
<00:26:00.525>For <00:26:00.700>instance, <00:26:00.875>we're <00:26:01.050>really <00:26:01.225>good <00:26:01.400>with <00:26:01.575>links <00:26:01.750>right <00:26:01.925>now.

687
00:26:02.585 --> 00:26:06.345
<00:26:02.585>Publications <00:26:02.740>see <00:26:02.896>more <00:26:03.051>link <00:26:03.207>traffic <00:26:03.362>from <00:26:03.518>Blue <00:26:03.673>Sky <00:26:03.829>than <00:26:03.985>they

688
00:26:06.345 --> 00:26:09.225
<00:26:06.345>do <00:26:06.500>from <00:26:06.656>X <00:26:06.811>even <00:26:06.967>though <00:26:07.122>we're <00:26:07.278>like, <00:26:07.433>you <00:26:07.589>know, <00:26:07.745>orders

689
00:26:09.225 --> 00:26:10.625
<00:26:09.225>of <00:26:09.476>magnitude <00:26:09.729>smaller <00:26:09.981>than <00:26:10.233>them <00:26:10.485>still.

690
00:26:11.205 --> 00:26:13.825
<00:26:11.205>Um, <00:26:11.345>and <00:26:11.485>one <00:26:11.625>of <00:26:11.764>the <00:26:11.905>reasons <00:26:12.044>that <00:26:12.185>is, <00:26:12.324>well, <00:26:12.465>you <00:26:12.605>know,

691
00:26:13.825 --> 00:26:15.505
<00:26:13.825>it's <00:26:14.000>sort <00:26:14.175>of <00:26:14.350>a <00:26:14.525>theory, <00:26:14.700>but, <00:26:14.875>um, <00:26:15.050>you <00:26:15.225>know,

692
00:26:15.505 --> 00:26:16.625
<00:26:15.505>when <00:26:15.706>you're <00:26:15.908>an <00:26:16.109>ad <00:26:16.311>supported <00:26:16.513>network,

693
00:26:16.645 --> 00:26:17.945
<00:26:16.645>you <00:26:16.879>wanna <00:26:17.113>keep <00:26:17.347>eyeballs <00:26:17.581>on <00:26:17.815>your,

694
00:26:17.965 --> 00:26:19.585
<00:26:17.965>on <00:26:18.198>your <00:26:18.431>platform <00:26:18.665>as <00:26:18.898>much <00:26:19.131>as <00:26:19.365>possible.

695
00:26:19.585 --> 00:26:21.905
<00:26:19.585>And <00:26:19.712>if <00:26:19.839>you <00:26:19.966>click <00:26:20.094>on <00:26:20.221>a <00:26:20.348>link, <00:26:20.475>that <00:26:20.603>person's <00:26:20.730>being <00:26:20.857>taken <00:26:20.985>off

696
00:26:21.905 --> 00:26:22.945
<00:26:21.905>your, <00:26:22.216>off <00:26:22.529>your <00:26:22.841>app.

697
00:26:23.565 --> 00:26:25.265
<00:26:23.565>And <00:26:23.720>so <00:26:23.876>we <00:26:24.031>don't <00:26:24.187>wanna <00:26:24.342>do <00:26:24.498>that <00:26:24.653>sort <00:26:24.809>of <00:26:24.965>thing.

698
00:26:25.265 --> 00:26:27.145
<00:26:25.265>We <00:26:25.465>don't <00:26:25.665>wanna <00:26:25.865>like, <00:26:26.065>incentivize <00:26:26.265>people <00:26:26.465>to <00:26:26.665>stay.

699
00:26:27.285 --> 00:26:31.185
<00:26:27.285>And <00:26:27.412>so <00:26:27.539>what <00:26:27.666>we're <00:26:27.794>trying <00:26:27.921>to <00:26:28.048>explore <00:26:28.175>is <00:26:28.303>ways <00:26:28.430>to <00:26:28.557>enable, <00:26:28.685>um,

700
00:26:31.435 --> 00:26:34.225
<00:26:31.435>third <00:26:31.610>party <00:26:31.784>creators <00:26:31.960>to <00:26:32.135>make <00:26:32.310>money <00:26:32.485>either <00:26:32.659>through <00:26:32.835>like,

701
00:26:34.245 --> 00:26:35.545
<00:26:34.245>you <00:26:34.635>know, <00:26:35.025>peer-to-peer <00:26:35.415>payments

702
00:26:36.045 --> 00:26:39.025
<00:26:36.045>or, <00:26:36.245>um, <00:26:36.445>there's <00:26:36.645>been <00:26:36.845>some <00:26:37.045>interesting <00:26:37.245>experimentation <00:26:37.445>with,

703
00:26:39.025 --> 00:26:40.025
<00:26:39.025>uh, <00:26:39.475>feed <00:26:39.925>generators.

704
00:26:40.025 --> 00:26:43.065
<00:26:40.025>There's <00:26:40.180>this, <00:26:40.336>uh, <00:26:40.491>graze <00:26:40.647>that's <00:26:40.802>social, <00:26:40.958>um, <00:26:41.113>that <00:26:41.269>allows <00:26:41.425>you

705
00:26:43.125 --> 00:26:45.885
<00:26:43.125>to <00:26:43.280>create <00:26:43.436>feeds <00:26:43.591>and <00:26:43.747>they're <00:26:43.902>intro <00:26:44.058>actually <00:26:44.213>introducing <00:26:44.369>a <00:26:44.525>way

706
00:26:45.945 --> 00:26:47.685
<00:26:45.945>to, <00:26:46.411>um, <00:26:46.878>sponsor <00:26:47.345>posts

707
00:26:47.685 --> 00:26:49.565
<00:26:47.685>and <00:26:47.918>like <00:26:48.151>boost <00:26:48.385>posts <00:26:48.618>within <00:26:48.851>these <00:26:49.085>feeds.

708
00:26:49.565 --> 00:26:51.765
<00:26:49.565>And <00:26:49.740>these <00:26:49.915>feeds, <00:26:50.090>we <00:26:50.265>haven't <00:26:50.440>talked <00:26:50.615>about <00:26:50.790>feed <00:26:50.965>generators

709
00:26:51.785 --> 00:26:54.165
<00:26:51.785>yet, <00:26:51.985>but, <00:26:52.185>um, <00:26:52.385>they're <00:26:52.585>entirely <00:26:52.785>plug <00:26:52.985>and <00:26:53.185>play.

710
00:26:54.185 --> 00:26:57.245
<00:26:54.185>So <00:26:54.325>anyone <00:26:54.465>can <00:26:54.605>create <00:26:54.745>a <00:26:54.885>feed <00:26:55.024>and <00:26:55.165>it <00:26:55.304>can <00:26:55.445>be <00:26:55.585>published,

711
00:26:57.245 --> 00:26:58.885
<00:26:57.245>and <00:26:57.478>then <00:26:57.711>you <00:26:57.945>can <00:26:58.178>follow <00:26:58.411>this <00:26:58.645>feed

712
00:26:58.885 --> 00:27:02.205
<00:26:58.885>or <00:26:59.001>you <00:26:59.118>can <00:26:59.235>pin <00:26:59.351>it <00:26:59.468>to <00:26:59.585>your <00:26:59.701>home <00:26:59.818>screen <00:26:59.935>and <00:27:00.051>see <00:27:00.168>that <00:27:00.285>content.

713
00:27:02.345 --> 00:27:06.005
<00:27:02.345>And <00:27:02.472>so <00:27:02.599>within <00:27:02.726>that <00:27:02.854>feed, <00:27:02.981>if, <00:27:03.108>if <00:27:03.235>these <00:27:03.363>feed <00:27:03.490>creators <00:27:03.617>want <00:27:03.745>to,

714
00:27:06.545 --> 00:27:10.245
<00:27:06.545>you <00:27:06.700>know, <00:27:06.856>place <00:27:07.011>an <00:27:07.167>ad <00:27:07.322>for, <00:27:07.478>uh, <00:27:07.633>you <00:27:07.789>know, <00:27:07.945>KFC

715
00:27:10.245 --> 00:27:13.205
<00:27:10.245>or <00:27:10.372>something <00:27:10.499>like <00:27:10.626>that, <00:27:10.754>um, <00:27:10.881>you <00:27:11.008>know, <00:27:11.135>it <00:27:11.263>can <00:27:11.390>show <00:27:11.517>up <00:27:11.645>in

716
00:27:13.205 --> 00:27:15.205
<00:27:13.205>that <00:27:13.321>feed <00:27:13.438>and <00:27:13.554>it's <00:27:13.671>like, <00:27:13.788>it's <00:27:13.905>an <00:27:14.021>ad <00:27:14.138>it <00:27:14.254>can <00:27:14.371>show <00:27:14.488>up <00:27:14.605>towards

717
00:27:15.205 --> 00:27:17.925
<00:27:15.205>the <00:27:15.360>top, <00:27:15.516>um, <00:27:15.671>users <00:27:15.827>on <00:27:15.982>Blue <00:27:16.138>Sky <00:27:16.293>wouldn't <00:27:16.449>necessarily <00:27:16.605>know

718
00:27:17.925 --> 00:27:19.685
<00:27:17.925>it's <00:27:18.065>an <00:27:18.205>ad <00:27:18.345>because <00:27:18.485>we <00:27:18.625>don't <00:27:18.764>have <00:27:18.905>any <00:27:19.044>sort <00:27:19.185>of <00:27:19.325>UI

719
00:27:19.685 --> 00:27:20.885
<00:27:19.685>to <00:27:19.900>show <00:27:20.117>that <00:27:20.333>it's <00:27:20.549>an <00:27:20.764>ad.

720
00:27:20.885 --> 00:27:22.365
<00:27:20.885>But <00:27:21.218>that's <00:27:21.551>an <00:27:21.884>example <00:27:22.217>of

721
00:27:22.705 --> 00:27:24.605
<00:27:22.705>how <00:27:22.938>like <00:27:23.171>third <00:27:23.405>parties <00:27:23.638>could <00:27:23.871>actually <00:27:24.105>like,

722
00:27:24.715 --> 00:27:25.965
<00:27:24.715>make <00:27:24.996>money <00:27:25.277>on <00:27:25.558>Blue <00:27:25.840>Sky.

723
00:27:26.345 --> 00:27:27.845
<00:27:26.345>And <00:27:26.480>so <00:27:26.615>one <00:27:26.750>of <00:27:26.885>the <00:27:27.020>things <00:27:27.155>we'd <00:27:27.290>like <00:27:27.425>to <00:27:27.560>do <00:27:27.695>is

724
00:27:27.845 --> 00:27:29.845
<00:27:27.845>to <00:27:28.045>help <00:27:28.245>facilitate <00:27:28.445>types <00:27:28.645>of <00:27:28.845>things <00:27:29.045>like <00:27:29.245>that

725
00:27:29.985 --> 00:27:31.445
<00:27:29.985>to <00:27:30.313>help <00:27:30.641>our <00:27:30.970>community <00:27:31.299>grow

726
00:27:31.745 --> 00:27:33.925
<00:27:31.745>and <00:27:31.945>incentivize <00:27:32.145>people <00:27:32.344>to <00:27:32.544>build <00:27:32.745>on <00:27:32.945>Blue <00:27:33.145>Sky.

727
00:27:34.465 --> 00:27:36.965
<00:27:34.465>So <00:27:34.605>it's <00:27:34.745>sort <00:27:34.885>of <00:27:35.024>a <00:27:35.165>rising <00:27:35.304>tide <00:27:35.445>raises <00:27:35.584>all <00:27:35.725>boats <00:27:35.865>sort

728
00:27:36.965 --> 00:27:38.485
<00:27:36.965>of <00:27:37.238>scenario <00:27:37.512>where, <00:27:37.785>you <00:27:38.059>know, <00:27:38.332>we'll,

729
00:27:38.485 --> 00:27:39.845
<00:27:38.485>we'll <00:27:38.659>get <00:27:38.834>maybe <00:27:39.009>a <00:27:39.184>small <00:27:39.359>cut <00:27:39.534>of <00:27:39.709>that

730
00:27:39.845 --> 00:27:41.845
<00:27:39.845>for <00:27:40.045>facilitating <00:27:40.245>maybe <00:27:40.445>payments <00:27:40.645>or <00:27:40.845>something <00:27:41.045>like <00:27:41.245>that.

731
00:27:42.145 --> 00:27:44.365
<00:27:42.145>But <00:27:42.285>really <00:27:42.425>the <00:27:42.565>majority <00:27:42.705>of <00:27:42.845>the <00:27:42.985>profit <00:27:43.125>will <00:27:43.264>go <00:27:43.405>towards <00:27:43.545>these

732
00:27:44.365 --> 00:27:46.125
<00:27:44.365>communities, <00:27:44.831>um, <00:27:45.298>and <00:27:45.765>creators

733
00:27:46.865 --> 00:27:49.485
<00:27:46.865>and, <00:27:46.992>you <00:27:47.119>know, <00:27:47.246>hopefully <00:27:47.374>grow <00:27:47.501>like <00:27:47.628>that <00:27:47.755>to <00:27:47.883>a, <00:27:48.010>to <00:27:48.137>a <00:27:48.265>point

734
00:27:49.485 --> 00:27:51.325
<00:27:49.485>where <00:27:49.685>we <00:27:49.885>can <00:27:50.084>be, <00:27:50.284>we <00:27:50.485>can <00:27:50.685>be <00:27:50.885>sustainable.

735
00:27:51.425 --> 00:27:53.885
<00:27:51.425>So, <00:27:51.565>um, <00:27:51.705>that's <00:27:51.845>just <00:27:51.985>one <00:27:52.125>of <00:27:52.264>the <00:27:52.405>things <00:27:52.544>we're <00:27:52.685>talking <00:27:52.825>about.

736
00:27:54.465 --> 00:27:56.525
<00:27:54.465>You <00:27:54.620>know, <00:27:54.776>there's, <00:27:54.931>there's <00:27:55.087>some <00:27:55.242>other <00:27:55.398>things <00:27:55.553>as <00:27:55.709>well <00:27:55.865>that,

737
00:27:56.525 --> 00:27:58.565
<00:27:56.525>again, <00:27:56.652>it's <00:27:56.779>like <00:27:56.906>I, <00:27:57.034>I <00:27:57.161>don't <00:27:57.288>know, <00:27:57.415>like <00:27:57.543>how <00:27:57.670>much <00:27:57.797>I <00:27:57.925>can,

738
00:27:58.685 --> 00:27:59.765
<00:27:58.685>I <00:27:59.009>can <00:27:59.333>say <00:27:59.657>externally.

739
00:27:59.765 --> 00:28:02.485
<00:27:59.765>And <00:27:59.905>I <00:28:00.045>also <00:28:00.185>don't, <00:28:00.325>um, <00:28:00.465>necessarily, <00:28:00.605>uh, <00:28:00.745>have <00:28:00.885>a <00:28:01.025>full <00:28:01.165>picture

740
00:28:02.505 --> 00:28:04.885
<00:28:02.505>of, <00:28:02.660>you <00:28:02.816>know, <00:28:02.971>um, <00:28:03.127>our <00:28:03.282>future <00:28:03.438>plans <00:28:03.593>at <00:28:03.749>the <00:28:03.905>moment.

741
00:28:05.345 --> 00:28:06.565
<00:28:05.345>Um, <00:28:05.711>we'll <00:28:06.077>talk <00:28:06.443>about

742
00:28:06.565 --> 00:28:08.285
<00:28:06.565>that <00:28:06.705>probably <00:28:06.845>the <00:28:06.985>next <00:28:07.125>time <00:28:07.265>we <00:28:07.405>have <00:28:07.545>a <00:28:07.685>team <00:28:07.825>on <00:28:07.965>site.

743
00:28:08.345 --> 00:28:10.365
<00:28:08.345>So <00:28:08.520>I'll <00:28:08.695>know <00:28:08.870>more <00:28:09.045>in <00:28:09.220>a <00:28:09.395>couple <00:28:09.570>months, <00:28:09.745>but,

744
00:28:10.505 --> 00:28:12.125
<00:28:10.505>but <00:28:10.680>yeah, <00:28:10.855>definitely <00:28:11.030>something <00:28:11.205>we're <00:28:11.380>focused <00:28:11.555>on <00:28:11.730>right <00:28:11.905>now

745
00:28:12.125 --> 00:28:15.125
<00:28:12.125>as <00:28:12.280>we, <00:28:12.436>we <00:28:12.591>want <00:28:12.747>to <00:28:12.902>obviously <00:28:13.058>go <00:28:13.213>the <00:28:13.369>distance <00:28:13.525>and,

746
00:28:15.125 --> 00:28:16.285
<00:28:15.125>and <00:28:15.386>stick <00:28:15.647>around <00:28:15.908>long <00:28:16.169>term.

747
00:28:17.265 --> 00:28:20.125
<00:28:17.265>So <00:28:17.405>you <00:28:17.545>are, <00:28:17.685>uh, <00:28:17.825>you're <00:28:17.965>distributed <00:28:18.105>then, <00:28:18.245>or <00:28:18.385>you <00:28:18.525>are <00:28:18.665>remote

748
00:28:20.225 --> 00:28:23.045
<00:28:20.225>or <00:28:20.399>what's <00:28:20.574>the, <00:28:20.750>what's <00:28:20.925>the, <00:28:21.100>the, <00:28:21.274>the, <00:28:21.449>the <00:28:21.625>structure

749
00:28:23.045 --> 00:28:24.085
<00:28:23.045>and <00:28:23.232>the <00:28:23.419>culture <00:28:23.606>in <00:28:23.793>the <00:28:23.981>company?

750
00:28:25.075 --> 00:28:26.125
<00:28:25.075>Yeah, <00:28:25.390>we're <00:28:25.705>all <00:28:26.020>distributed.

751
00:28:26.125 --> 00:28:28.285
<00:28:26.125>There's, <00:28:26.300>um, <00:28:26.475>there's <00:28:26.650>a <00:28:26.825>handful <00:28:27.000>of <00:28:27.175>folks <00:28:27.350>in, <00:28:27.525>um,

752
00:28:28.345 --> 00:28:29.845
<00:28:28.345>in <00:28:28.615>Seattle <00:28:28.885>and <00:28:29.155>some <00:28:29.425>in <00:28:29.695>sf.

753
00:28:30.025 --> 00:28:31.445
<00:28:30.025>Uh, <00:28:30.184>but <00:28:30.344>then <00:28:30.504>the <00:28:30.664>rest <00:28:30.823>of <00:28:30.983>us <00:28:31.143>are <00:28:31.303>kind

754
00:28:31.445 --> 00:28:33.365
<00:28:31.445>of <00:28:31.620>scattered <00:28:31.794>about <00:28:31.970>the <00:28:32.145>US <00:28:32.320>and <00:28:32.495>we <00:28:32.669>have, <00:28:32.845>um,

755
00:28:34.425 --> 00:28:37.285
<00:28:34.425>we <00:28:34.565>have <00:28:34.705>some <00:28:34.845>folks <00:28:34.985>in <00:28:35.125>Europe <00:28:35.264>as <00:28:35.405>well, <00:28:35.544>Brussels <00:28:35.685>and <00:28:35.825>London,

756
00:28:37.825 --> 00:28:40.285
<00:28:37.825>and, <00:28:38.025>uh, <00:28:38.225>Italy <00:28:38.425>and, <00:28:38.625>you <00:28:38.825>know, <00:28:39.025>all <00:28:39.225>over.

757
00:28:40.545 --> 00:28:43.685
<00:28:40.545>So, <00:28:40.700>um, <00:28:40.856>very <00:28:41.011>good <00:28:41.167>for <00:28:41.322>time <00:28:41.478>zone <00:28:41.633>coverage <00:28:41.789>as <00:28:41.945>well.

758
00:28:43.755 --> 00:28:45.245
<00:28:43.755>It's <00:28:43.946>nice <00:28:44.138>to <00:28:44.329>have <00:28:44.521>someone, <00:28:44.712>um, <00:28:44.904>you <00:28:45.096>know,

759
00:28:45.245 --> 00:28:46.605
<00:28:45.245>for <00:28:45.551>on-call <00:28:45.857>kind <00:28:46.163>of <00:28:46.469>things.

760
00:28:46.715 --> 00:28:48.485
<00:28:46.715>PagerDuty, <00:28:46.995>uh, <00:28:47.274>someone's <00:28:47.554>kind <00:28:47.834>of <00:28:48.115>always,

761
00:28:48.745 --> 00:28:50.445
<00:28:48.745>always <00:28:49.211>online, <00:28:49.678>uh, <00:28:50.145>essentially.

762
00:28:50.445 --> 00:28:53.445
<00:28:50.445>And <00:28:50.620>so, <00:28:50.794>um, <00:28:50.970>and <00:28:51.145>yeah, <00:28:51.320>so <00:28:51.495>we're <00:28:51.669>all <00:28:51.845>distributed.

763
00:28:53.445 --> 00:28:55.125
<00:28:53.445>We <00:28:53.620>get <00:28:53.794>together <00:28:53.970>a <00:28:54.145>couple <00:28:54.320>times <00:28:54.495>a <00:28:54.669>year, <00:28:54.845>two,

764
00:28:55.125 --> 00:28:56.085
<00:28:55.125>three <00:28:55.297>times <00:28:55.470>a <00:28:55.643>year <00:28:55.816>and <00:28:55.989>get

765
00:28:56.245 --> 00:28:57.365
<00:28:56.245>everyone <00:28:56.446>together <00:28:56.648>in <00:28:56.849>the <00:28:57.051>same <00:28:57.253>city.

766
00:28:57.785 --> 00:28:59.645
<00:28:57.785>And <00:28:57.960>that's <00:28:58.135>always, <00:28:58.310>that's <00:28:58.485>always <00:28:58.660>a <00:28:58.835>lot <00:28:59.010>of <00:28:59.185>fun.

767
00:28:59.765 --> 00:29:00.965
<00:28:59.765>I, <00:28:59.981>I <00:29:00.197>really <00:29:00.413>value <00:29:00.629>those <00:29:00.845>times

768
00:29:01.285 --> 00:29:03.125
<00:29:01.285>'cause <00:29:01.518>the <00:29:01.751>team <00:29:01.985>is, <00:29:02.218>is <00:29:02.451>so <00:29:02.685>talented

769
00:29:03.265 --> 00:29:06.165
<00:29:03.265>and <00:29:03.405>I <00:29:03.545>don't <00:29:03.685>often <00:29:03.825>get <00:29:03.965>to <00:29:04.105>interface <00:29:04.245>with, <00:29:04.385>you <00:29:04.525>know, <00:29:04.665>some

770
00:29:06.165 --> 00:29:07.045
<00:29:06.165>of <00:29:06.363>the <00:29:06.561>deeper <00:29:06.759>backend <00:29:06.957>like

771
00:29:07.045 --> 00:29:08.205
<00:29:07.045>infrastructure <00:29:07.253>guys <00:29:07.462>and <00:29:07.671>stuff <00:29:07.880>like <00:29:08.089>that.

772
00:29:08.745 --> 00:29:11.485
<00:29:08.745>Um, <00:29:08.885>or <00:29:09.024>even <00:29:09.165>really, <00:29:09.304>I, <00:29:09.445>I <00:29:09.584>don't <00:29:09.725>get, <00:29:09.864>you <00:29:10.004>know, <00:29:10.145>Jay

773
00:29:11.485 --> 00:29:14.605
<00:29:11.485>and <00:29:11.625>Rose, <00:29:11.764>uh, <00:29:11.905>you <00:29:12.044>know, <00:29:12.185>are <00:29:12.324>so <00:29:12.465>busy <00:29:12.604>with, <00:29:12.745>with, <00:29:12.885>uh,

774
00:29:14.605 --> 00:29:15.885
<00:29:14.605>you <00:29:14.835>know, <00:29:15.065>talking <00:29:15.296>to <00:29:15.526>folks <00:29:15.757>and,

775
00:29:15.985 --> 00:29:18.205
<00:29:15.985>and, <00:29:16.185>um, <00:29:16.385>you <00:29:16.584>know, <00:29:16.784>our <00:29:16.985>advisors <00:29:17.185>and <00:29:17.385>board

776
00:29:18.205 --> 00:29:18.965
<00:29:18.205>and <00:29:18.376>things <00:29:18.547>like <00:29:18.717>that, <00:29:18.889>that

777
00:29:19.125 --> 00:29:20.245
<00:29:19.125>I <00:29:19.251>don't <00:29:19.377>get <00:29:19.503>a <00:29:19.629>lot <00:29:19.754>of <00:29:19.880>FaceTime <00:29:20.006>with <00:29:20.132>'em.

778
00:29:20.245 --> 00:29:22.125
<00:29:20.245>So <00:29:20.385>it's <00:29:20.524>always <00:29:20.665>really <00:29:20.804>exciting <00:29:20.945>to, <00:29:21.084>to <00:29:21.225>sit <00:29:21.364>down <00:29:21.504>with <00:29:21.645>them

779
00:29:22.125 --> 00:29:24.765
<00:29:22.125>and <00:29:22.252>get <00:29:22.379>to <00:29:22.506>see <00:29:22.634>them <00:29:22.761>every <00:29:22.888>day, <00:29:23.015>um, <00:29:23.143>at <00:29:23.270>these <00:29:23.397>team <00:29:23.525>onsite.

780
00:29:24.785 --> 00:29:26.325
<00:29:24.785>So, <00:29:25.478>um, <00:29:26.171>yeah,

781
00:29:27.345 --> 00:29:29.285
<00:29:27.345>I'm <00:29:27.578>not <00:29:27.811>surprised <00:29:28.045>with <00:29:28.278>the <00:29:28.511>links <00:29:28.745>thing

782
00:29:29.285 --> 00:29:32.605
<00:29:29.285>because <00:29:29.412>one <00:29:29.539>of <00:29:29.666>the <00:29:29.794>main <00:29:29.921>changes, <00:29:30.048>like <00:29:30.175>a <00:29:30.303>lot <00:29:30.430>of, <00:29:30.557>a <00:29:30.685>lot

783
00:29:32.605 --> 00:29:34.165
<00:29:32.605>of <00:29:32.780>things <00:29:32.955>annoy <00:29:33.130>me <00:29:33.305>about <00:29:33.480>X <00:29:33.655>at <00:29:33.830>the <00:29:34.005>moment.

784
00:29:34.705 --> 00:29:37.205
<00:29:34.705>Uh, <00:29:34.832>but <00:29:34.959>one <00:29:35.086>of <00:29:35.214>the <00:29:35.341>changes <00:29:35.468>that <00:29:35.595>annoy <00:29:35.723>me <00:29:35.850>the <00:29:35.977>most <00:29:36.105>is

785
00:29:37.205 --> 00:29:39.765
<00:29:37.205>that <00:29:37.312>actually <00:29:37.420>if <00:29:37.528>you <00:29:37.635>have <00:29:37.743>a <00:29:37.851>post <00:29:37.958>on <00:29:38.066>X <00:29:38.174>with <00:29:38.281>a <00:29:38.389>link <00:29:38.497>in <00:29:38.605>it,

786
00:29:40.055 --> 00:29:43.665
<00:29:40.055>which <00:29:40.171>I <00:29:40.288>normally <00:29:40.405>do, <00:29:40.521>I <00:29:40.638>I <00:29:40.755>I <00:29:40.871>find <00:29:40.988>something <00:29:41.105>cool, <00:29:41.221>I <00:29:41.338>share <00:29:41.455>it

787
00:29:43.685 --> 00:29:45.465
<00:29:43.685>and <00:29:43.860>I, <00:29:44.034>and <00:29:44.210>I <00:29:44.385>do <00:29:44.560>a <00:29:44.735>comment <00:29:44.909>on <00:29:45.085>it

788
00:29:45.465 --> 00:29:47.265
<00:29:45.465>and <00:29:45.745>say <00:29:46.024>like, <00:29:46.304>this <00:29:46.584>is <00:29:46.865>happening

789
00:29:47.285 --> 00:29:50.905
<00:29:47.285>and <00:29:47.425>here <00:29:47.565>is <00:29:47.705>a <00:29:47.845>proof <00:29:47.985>URL <00:29:48.125>where <00:29:48.265>it <00:29:48.405>happens, <00:29:48.545>the <00:29:48.685>algorithm

790
00:29:51.005 --> 00:29:53.105
<00:29:51.005>of <00:29:51.180>X <00:29:51.355>actually <00:29:51.530>punishes <00:29:51.705>for <00:29:51.880>you <00:29:52.055>for <00:29:52.230>that <00:29:52.405>now.

791
00:29:53.525 --> 00:29:55.785
<00:29:53.525>So <00:29:53.725>basically <00:29:53.925>the, <00:29:54.125>the, <00:29:54.325>they <00:29:54.525>just <00:29:54.725>want <00:29:54.925>content

792
00:29:55.925 --> 00:29:57.105
<00:29:55.925>so <00:29:56.137>you <00:29:56.349>stay <00:29:56.562>within <00:29:56.774>the <00:29:56.987>app.

793
00:29:57.105 --> 00:30:00.145
<00:29:57.105>Mm-hmm. <00:29:57.245>And <00:29:57.385>then <00:29:57.525>most <00:29:57.665>of <00:29:57.805>the <00:29:57.945>people <00:29:58.085>do <00:29:58.225>some, <00:29:58.365>some <00:29:58.505>post

794
00:30:00.245 --> 00:30:02.225
<00:30:00.245>and <00:30:00.400>then <00:30:00.556>like <00:30:00.711>the <00:30:00.867>first <00:30:01.022>comment <00:30:01.178>will <00:30:01.333>be <00:30:01.489>the <00:30:01.645>link.

795
00:30:03.005 --> 00:30:04.745
<00:30:03.005>Oh, <00:30:03.180>wow. <00:30:03.355>People <00:30:03.530>do <00:30:03.705>that <00:30:03.880>on <00:30:04.055>LinkedIn <00:30:04.230>as <00:30:04.405>well,

796
00:30:04.985 --> 00:30:07.225
<00:30:04.985>although <00:30:05.218>LinkedIn <00:30:05.451>doesn't <00:30:05.685>do <00:30:05.918>that <00:30:06.151>algorithm <00:30:06.385>yet.

797
00:30:07.445 --> 00:30:09.985
<00:30:07.445>But <00:30:07.645>it <00:30:07.845>seems <00:30:08.044>like <00:30:08.245>the, <00:30:08.445>the <00:30:08.645>growth <00:30:08.845>hackers

798
00:30:09.985 --> 00:30:13.025
<00:30:09.985>of <00:30:10.125>the <00:30:10.264>social <00:30:10.405>medias <00:30:10.544>out <00:30:10.685>there <00:30:10.824>are <00:30:10.965>now <00:30:11.104>all <00:30:11.245>thinking <00:30:11.385>like,

799
00:30:13.425 --> 00:30:15.825
<00:30:13.425>I <00:30:13.580>have <00:30:13.736>to <00:30:13.891>make <00:30:14.047>a <00:30:14.202>random <00:30:14.358>statement <00:30:14.513>without <00:30:14.669>any <00:30:14.825>proof

800
00:30:15.895 --> 00:30:19.945
<00:30:15.895>that <00:30:16.070>is <00:30:16.245>actually <00:30:16.420>worth <00:30:16.595>more <00:30:16.770>than, <00:30:16.945>uh, <00:30:17.120>than <00:30:17.295>something

801
00:30:19.945 --> 00:30:22.345
<00:30:19.945>where <00:30:20.072>people <00:30:20.199>can <00:30:20.326>make <00:30:20.454>up <00:30:20.581>their <00:30:20.708>own <00:30:20.835>mind <00:30:20.963>by <00:30:21.090>following <00:30:21.217>a <00:30:21.345>link.

802
00:30:22.725 --> 00:30:26.025
<00:30:22.725>So <00:30:22.865>I'm <00:30:23.004>not <00:30:23.145>surprised <00:30:23.284>that <00:30:23.425>this <00:30:23.564>is <00:30:23.705>actually, <00:30:23.844>uh, <00:30:23.985>paying, <00:30:24.125>uh,

803
00:30:26.045 --> 00:30:29.265
<00:30:26.045>uh, <00:30:26.200>dividends <00:30:26.356>in <00:30:26.511>your <00:30:26.667>platform <00:30:26.822>because <00:30:26.978>it's <00:30:27.133>on <00:30:27.289>the <00:30:27.445>others.

804
00:30:29.455 --> 00:30:30.585
<00:30:29.455>It's <00:30:29.963>actually <00:30:30.472>discouraged

805
00:30:30.585 --> 00:30:32.825
<00:30:30.585>because <00:30:30.760>it's <00:30:30.935>the <00:30:31.110>whole <00:30:31.285>like, <00:30:31.460>stay <00:30:31.635>within <00:30:31.810>the <00:30:31.985>app,

806
00:30:32.825 --> 00:30:35.185
<00:30:32.825>stay <00:30:33.175>addicted, <00:30:33.525>become <00:30:33.875>TikTok, <00:30:34.225>basically.

807
00:30:35.205 --> 00:30:37.905
<00:30:35.205>That's <00:30:35.379>all, <00:30:35.554>all <00:30:35.730>of <00:30:35.905>them <00:30:36.080>want <00:30:36.254>to <00:30:36.429>become. <00:30:36.605>Yeah.

808
00:30:37.905 --> 00:30:40.145
<00:30:37.905>And <00:30:38.080>I <00:30:38.254>think <00:30:38.430>the, <00:30:38.605>the <00:30:38.780>traffic <00:30:38.955>bit <00:30:39.129>is <00:30:39.305>also

809
00:30:40.145 --> 00:30:42.305
<00:30:40.145>because, <00:30:40.611>uh, <00:30:41.078>um, <00:30:41.545>video

810
00:30:42.685 --> 00:30:45.065
<00:30:42.685>and <00:30:42.965>images <00:30:43.245>are <00:30:43.524>actually, <00:30:43.804>uh, <00:30:44.085>um,

811
00:30:45.335 --> 00:30:48.105
<00:30:45.335>also <00:30:45.568>valued <00:30:45.801>higher <00:30:46.035>than <00:30:46.268>text <00:30:46.501>on <00:30:46.735>most

812
00:30:48.105 --> 00:30:49.345
<00:30:48.105>of <00:30:48.384>the <00:30:48.663>other <00:30:48.942>platforms <00:30:49.221>now.

813
00:30:49.345 --> 00:30:50.745
<00:30:49.345>Mm-hmm. <00:30:49.555>And <00:30:49.764>that <00:30:49.975>just <00:30:50.185>drives <00:30:50.395>me <00:30:50.605>crazy.

814
00:30:50.745 --> 00:30:52.625
<00:30:50.745>Like, <00:30:50.872>I <00:30:50.999>mean, <00:30:51.126>I <00:30:51.254>go <00:30:51.381>to <00:30:51.508>Google <00:30:51.635>and <00:30:51.763>I <00:30:51.890>search <00:30:52.017>for <00:30:52.145>like,

815
00:30:52.625 --> 00:30:53.665
<00:30:52.625>how <00:30:52.859>do <00:30:53.093>I <00:30:53.327>do <00:30:53.561>pancakes?

816
00:30:53.665 --> 00:30:55.705
<00:30:53.665>Yeah. <00:30:53.840>I <00:30:54.014>want <00:30:54.190>to <00:30:54.365>have <00:30:54.540>like <00:30:54.715>a <00:30:54.889>pancake <00:30:55.065>recipe.

817
00:30:55.985 --> 00:30:58.345
<00:30:55.985>I <00:30:56.140>don't <00:30:56.296>want <00:30:56.451>a <00:30:56.607>seven <00:30:56.762>half <00:30:56.918>minute <00:30:57.073>video <00:30:57.229>of <00:30:57.385>like,

818
00:30:58.345 --> 00:30:59.705
<00:30:58.345>people <00:30:58.651>please <00:30:58.956>like <00:30:59.263>and <00:30:59.569>subscribe

819
00:31:00.085 --> 00:31:01.425
<00:31:00.085>and <00:31:00.326>my <00:31:00.567>pancakes <00:31:00.808>are <00:31:01.049>the <00:31:01.291>best.

820
00:31:01.645 --> 00:31:04.945
<00:31:01.645>And, <00:31:01.820>uh, <00:31:01.995>yeah, <00:31:02.170>it's, <00:31:02.345>it's <00:31:02.520>a <00:31:02.695>very <00:31:02.870>strange <00:31:03.045>world

821
00:31:04.945 --> 00:31:08.585
<00:31:04.945>where <00:31:05.120>we <00:31:05.294>became <00:31:05.470>like, <00:31:05.645>uh, <00:31:05.820>everybody's <00:31:05.995>a <00:31:06.169>content <00:31:06.345>creator

822
00:31:09.205 --> 00:31:11.505
<00:31:09.205>and <00:31:09.485>everything <00:31:09.764>is <00:31:10.044>becoming <00:31:10.324>like <00:31:10.605>multi

823
00:31:12.115 --> 00:31:13.825
<00:31:12.115>multimedia <00:31:12.465>is <00:31:12.815>better <00:31:13.165>than <00:31:13.515>that.

824
00:31:14.405 --> 00:31:17.065
<00:31:14.405>And <00:31:14.560>my <00:31:14.716>favorite <00:31:14.871>dog <00:31:15.027>is <00:31:15.182>YouTube, <00:31:15.338>uh, <00:31:15.493>uh, <00:31:15.649>uh, <00:31:15.805>thumbnails

825
00:31:17.065 --> 00:31:19.665
<00:31:17.065>where <00:31:17.298>everything <00:31:17.531>is <00:31:17.765>like, <00:31:17.998>or <00:31:18.231>like, <00:31:18.465>right,

826
00:31:19.885 --> 00:31:21.145
<00:31:19.885>That's, <00:31:20.452>yeah, <00:31:21.019>exactly.

827
00:31:21.175 --> 00:31:22.425
<00:31:21.175>Yeah, <00:31:21.456>it's <00:31:21.737>changed <00:31:22.018>so <00:31:22.300>much.

828
00:31:24.295 --> 00:31:25.345
<00:31:24.295>It's <00:31:24.531>almost <00:31:24.767>common. <00:31:25.003>Yeah, <00:31:25.240>no,

829
00:31:25.345 --> 00:31:26.785
<00:31:25.345>You, <00:31:25.669>yeah, <00:31:25.993>I <00:31:26.317>mean, <00:31:26.641>no,

830
00:31:26.785 --> 00:31:27.865
<00:31:26.785>yeah, <00:31:26.923>you, <00:31:27.062>you <00:31:27.201>make <00:31:27.340>a <00:31:27.479>really <00:31:27.618>good <00:31:27.757>point.

831
00:31:27.865 --> 00:31:29.625
<00:31:27.865>It, <00:31:28.020>it <00:31:28.176>is <00:31:28.331>like <00:31:28.487>very <00:31:28.642>funny <00:31:28.798>and <00:31:28.953>also <00:31:29.109>like <00:31:29.265>kind

832
00:31:29.625 --> 00:31:31.465
<00:31:29.625>of <00:31:29.825>dark <00:31:30.025>in <00:31:30.225>a <00:31:30.425>way <00:31:30.625>that, <00:31:30.825>you <00:31:31.025>know,

833
00:31:31.765 --> 00:31:34.505
<00:31:31.765>search <00:31:31.965>engines <00:31:32.165>like <00:31:32.365>Google <00:31:32.565>don't <00:31:32.765>turn <00:31:32.965>up <00:31:33.165>really

834
00:31:34.755 --> 00:31:36.425
<00:31:34.755>great <00:31:35.455>results <00:31:36.155>anymore.

835
00:31:36.535 --> 00:31:37.985
<00:31:36.535>It's <00:31:36.796>just <00:31:37.057>these, <00:31:37.318>it's <00:31:37.579>the <00:31:37.840>results

836
00:31:37.985 --> 00:31:39.305
<00:31:37.985>that <00:31:38.282>get <00:31:38.579>the <00:31:38.876>most <00:31:39.173>eyeballs.

837
00:31:39.785 --> 00:31:41.345
<00:31:39.785>I <00:31:39.940>mean, <00:31:40.096>especially <00:31:40.251>for <00:31:40.407>someone <00:31:40.562>like <00:31:40.718>Google, <00:31:40.873>I, <00:31:41.029>you <00:31:41.185>know,

838
00:31:41.345 --> 00:31:42.545
<00:31:41.345>I <00:31:41.499>can't <00:31:41.653>speak <00:31:41.807>too <00:31:41.962>much, <00:31:42.116>but <00:31:42.270>you <00:31:42.425>know,

839
00:31:42.545 --> 00:31:44.625
<00:31:42.545>like <00:31:42.745>they're <00:31:42.945>driving <00:31:43.145>folks <00:31:43.345>towards, <00:31:43.545>you <00:31:43.745>know, <00:31:43.945>YouTube

840
00:31:44.625 --> 00:31:45.945
<00:31:44.625>and <00:31:44.862>things <00:31:45.100>because <00:31:45.337>Google <00:31:45.575>owns <00:31:45.812>YouTube.

841
00:31:46.005 --> 00:31:48.545
<00:31:46.005>And <00:31:46.160>so <00:31:46.316>it's <00:31:46.471>like <00:31:46.627>this <00:31:46.782>kind <00:31:46.938>of <00:31:47.093>like <00:31:47.249>strange <00:31:47.405>ecosystem

842
00:31:48.545 --> 00:31:51.825
<00:31:48.545>of <00:31:48.720>these <00:31:48.895>like, <00:31:49.070>huge <00:31:49.245>platforms <00:31:49.420>that, <00:31:49.595>that, <00:31:49.770>you <00:31:49.945>know,

843
00:31:51.825 --> 00:31:53.345
<00:31:51.825>have <00:31:52.053>their <00:31:52.281>own <00:31:52.509>best <00:31:52.737>interests <00:31:52.965>in <00:31:53.193>mind.

844
00:31:53.345 --> 00:31:55.425
<00:31:53.345>Of <00:31:53.520>course. <00:31:53.695>I <00:31:53.870>mean, <00:31:54.045>it's <00:31:54.220>just, <00:31:54.395>that's <00:31:54.570>just <00:31:54.745>natural.

845
00:31:56.045 --> 00:31:58.065
<00:31:56.045>But, <00:31:56.245>um, <00:31:56.445>you <00:31:56.645>know, <00:31:56.845>they've <00:31:57.045>catered <00:31:57.245>towards <00:31:57.445>kind

846
00:31:58.065 --> 00:32:01.265
<00:31:58.065>of <00:31:58.205>the <00:31:58.345>human <00:31:58.485>condition <00:31:58.625>of, <00:31:58.765>of, <00:31:58.905>you <00:31:59.045>know, <00:31:59.185>we <00:31:59.325>want <00:31:59.465>easy,

847
00:32:01.495 --> 00:32:03.065
<00:32:01.495>snackable <00:32:01.961>kind <00:32:02.428>of <00:32:02.895>content.

848
00:32:03.685 --> 00:32:05.945
<00:32:03.685>Um, <00:32:03.965>and <00:32:04.245>sometimes <00:32:04.524>that <00:32:04.804>doesn't <00:32:05.085>equate

849
00:32:05.945 --> 00:32:07.865
<00:32:05.945>to <00:32:06.178>really <00:32:06.411>high <00:32:06.645>quality <00:32:06.878>kind <00:32:07.111>of <00:32:07.345>stuff

850
00:32:07.865 --> 00:32:09.785
<00:32:07.865>and <00:32:08.065>stuff <00:32:08.265>that's <00:32:08.465>actually <00:32:08.665>like <00:32:08.865>kind <00:32:09.065>of <00:32:09.265>nutritious

851
00:32:09.785 --> 00:32:10.985
<00:32:09.785>and, <00:32:09.965>and <00:32:10.145>good <00:32:10.325>for <00:32:10.504>us, <00:32:10.685>you <00:32:10.865>know?

852
00:32:11.365 --> 00:32:12.625
<00:32:11.365>Um, <00:32:11.591>I <00:32:11.818>don't <00:32:12.045>know, <00:32:12.272>you <00:32:12.499>know,

853
00:32:12.625 --> 00:32:16.145
<00:32:12.625>like <00:32:12.752>Blue <00:32:12.879>Skies <00:32:13.006>is <00:32:13.134>a <00:32:13.261>social <00:32:13.388>network <00:32:13.515>in <00:32:13.643>the <00:32:13.770>end <00:32:13.897>as <00:32:14.025>well.

854
00:32:16.605 --> 00:32:18.665
<00:32:16.605>Um, <00:32:16.780>but <00:32:16.955>we <00:32:17.130>hope <00:32:17.305>to <00:32:17.480>not <00:32:17.655>fall <00:32:17.830>into <00:32:18.005>some

855
00:32:18.665 --> 00:32:19.865
<00:32:18.665>of <00:32:19.025>those, <00:32:19.385>those <00:32:19.745>trappings.

856
00:32:20.005 --> 00:32:22.025
<00:32:20.005>Um, <00:32:20.238>'cause <00:32:20.471>we're <00:32:20.705>all <00:32:20.938>people, <00:32:21.171>you <00:32:21.405>know,

857
00:32:22.345 --> 00:32:24.745
<00:32:22.345>everyone <00:32:22.500>on <00:32:22.656>the <00:32:22.811>team <00:32:22.967>is <00:32:23.122>a, <00:32:23.278>a <00:32:23.433>person <00:32:23.589>that's <00:32:23.745>deeply

858
00:32:25.585 --> 00:32:27.425
<00:32:25.585>invested <00:32:25.760>in <00:32:25.935>the <00:32:26.110>internet <00:32:26.285>and <00:32:26.460>has <00:32:26.635>been, <00:32:26.810>you <00:32:26.985>know,

859
00:32:27.775 --> 00:32:29.665
<00:32:27.775>extremely <00:32:28.055>online <00:32:28.335>from <00:32:28.615>a <00:32:28.895>young <00:32:29.175>age.

860
00:32:29.965 --> 00:32:32.425
<00:32:29.965>And <00:32:30.139>so <00:32:30.314>we've <00:32:30.490>seen <00:32:30.665>this <00:32:30.840>kind <00:32:31.014>of <00:32:31.189>shift <00:32:31.365>and,

861
00:32:32.485 --> 00:32:33.665
<00:32:32.485>and <00:32:32.661>we <00:32:32.839>don't <00:32:33.015>like <00:32:33.193>it, <00:32:33.370>you <00:32:33.547>know?

862
00:32:34.045 --> 00:32:36.465
<00:32:34.045>Um, <00:32:34.185>and <00:32:34.325>so <00:32:34.465>we, <00:32:34.605>we <00:32:34.745>do <00:32:34.885>not <00:32:35.025>want <00:32:35.165>to <00:32:35.305>become <00:32:35.445>that,

863
00:32:36.525 --> 00:32:39.765
<00:32:36.525>and <00:32:36.680>we <00:32:36.836>want <00:32:36.991>to <00:32:37.147>actually <00:32:37.302>facilitate <00:32:37.458>the, <00:32:37.613>the <00:32:37.769>opposite, <00:32:37.925>um,

864
00:32:40.105 --> 00:32:42.005
<00:32:40.105>you <00:32:40.385>know, <00:32:40.665>to <00:32:40.945>create <00:32:41.225>healthy <00:32:41.505>interactions,

865
00:32:42.765 --> 00:32:44.885
<00:32:42.765>a <00:32:43.045>good <00:32:43.325>content <00:32:43.605>repository, <00:32:43.885>you <00:32:44.165>know,

866
00:32:44.885 --> 00:32:46.405
<00:32:44.885>like <00:32:45.080>thi <00:32:45.275>this <00:32:45.471>is <00:32:45.666>like <00:32:45.862>the <00:32:46.057>public <00:32:46.253>town

867
00:32:46.405 --> 00:32:47.765
<00:32:46.405>square, <00:32:46.609>I <00:32:46.813>think <00:32:47.017>that <00:32:47.221>the <00:32:47.425>people <00:32:47.629>need.

868
00:32:48.145 --> 00:32:51.145
<00:32:48.145>Um, <00:32:48.300>and <00:32:48.456>we <00:32:48.611>wanna <00:32:48.767>make <00:32:48.922>that <00:32:49.078>like <00:32:49.233>as <00:32:49.389>healthy, <00:32:49.545>uh,

869
00:32:51.325 --> 00:32:53.905
<00:32:51.325>and <00:32:51.465>as, <00:32:51.605>as <00:32:51.745>good <00:32:51.885>for <00:32:52.025>humanity <00:32:52.165>as <00:32:52.305>possible <00:32:52.445>without, <00:32:52.585>I <00:32:52.725>mean,

870
00:32:53.905 --> 00:32:55.545
<00:32:53.905>not <00:32:54.060>trying <00:32:54.216>to <00:32:54.371>be <00:32:54.527>too <00:32:54.682>lofty <00:32:54.838>here <00:32:54.993>with <00:32:55.149>our <00:32:55.305>goals,

871
00:32:55.645 --> 00:32:58.825
<00:32:55.645>but <00:32:55.761>we <00:32:55.878>all <00:32:55.995>are, <00:32:56.111>are <00:32:56.228>very <00:32:56.345>much <00:32:56.461>on, <00:32:56.578>on <00:32:56.695>the <00:32:56.811>same <00:32:56.928>page <00:32:57.045>here.

872
00:32:58.845 --> 00:33:00.345
<00:32:58.845>We, <00:32:59.037>there's, <00:32:59.230>there's <00:32:59.423>no <00:32:59.616>one <00:32:59.809>on <00:33:00.002>the <00:33:00.195>team

873
00:33:00.345 --> 00:33:02.025
<00:33:00.345>that <00:33:00.545>necessarily <00:33:00.745>set <00:33:00.945>out <00:33:01.145>just <00:33:01.345>to <00:33:01.545>build <00:33:01.745>a,

874
00:33:02.105 --> 00:33:03.345
<00:33:02.105>a <00:33:02.477>social <00:33:02.849>network <00:33:03.221>necessarily.

875
00:33:03.725 --> 00:33:07.425
<00:33:03.725>We <00:33:03.852>were <00:33:03.979>here <00:33:04.106>to <00:33:04.234>build <00:33:04.361>a <00:33:04.488>protocol <00:33:04.615>that <00:33:04.743>can <00:33:04.870>power <00:33:04.997>the <00:33:05.125>future

876
00:33:07.525 --> 00:33:10.785
<00:33:07.525>of <00:33:07.805>social <00:33:08.085>networks <00:33:08.365>and <00:33:08.645>other <00:33:08.925>applications

877
00:33:11.005 --> 00:33:12.585
<00:33:11.005>and <00:33:11.238>just <00:33:11.471>the <00:33:11.705>wider <00:33:11.938>internet <00:33:12.171>in <00:33:12.405>general.

878
00:33:13.045 --> 00:33:14.985
<00:33:13.045>Um, <00:33:13.200>it <00:33:13.356>just <00:33:13.511>so <00:33:13.667>happened <00:33:13.822>there <00:33:13.978>was <00:33:14.133>a <00:33:14.289>great <00:33:14.445>opportunity

879
00:33:14.985 --> 00:33:16.145
<00:33:14.985>to <00:33:15.245>build <00:33:15.506>a <00:33:15.768>social <00:33:16.029>network

880
00:33:16.765 --> 00:33:19.825
<00:33:16.765>and, <00:33:16.940>um, <00:33:17.115>it's, <00:33:17.290>you <00:33:17.465>know, <00:33:17.640>it's, <00:33:17.815>it's <00:33:17.990>proving, <00:33:18.165>um,

881
00:33:20.645 --> 00:33:22.865
<00:33:20.645>our <00:33:20.800>hypothesis <00:33:20.956>that, <00:33:21.111>you <00:33:21.267>know, <00:33:21.422>we <00:33:21.578>need <00:33:21.733>like <00:33:21.889>this <00:33:22.045>kind

882
00:33:22.865 --> 00:33:25.985
<00:33:22.865>of <00:33:23.020>like <00:33:23.176>public, <00:33:23.331>uh, <00:33:23.487>infrastructure <00:33:23.642>way <00:33:23.798>to <00:33:23.953>own <00:33:24.109>your <00:33:24.265>data,

883
00:33:26.375 --> 00:33:29.145
<00:33:26.375>stackable <00:33:26.575>moderation, <00:33:26.775>you <00:33:26.975>know, <00:33:27.175>choose <00:33:27.375>your <00:33:27.575>own <00:33:27.775>feeds.

884
00:33:29.485 --> 00:33:31.545
<00:33:29.485>Um, <00:33:29.640>all <00:33:29.796>these <00:33:29.951>kind <00:33:30.107>of <00:33:30.262>theories <00:33:30.418>that <00:33:30.573>we <00:33:30.729>had <00:33:30.885>are,

885
00:33:31.545 --> 00:33:32.585
<00:33:31.545>are <00:33:31.732>starting <00:33:31.919>to <00:33:32.106>be <00:33:32.293>proved <00:33:32.481>out.

886
00:33:32.725 --> 00:33:35.905
<00:33:32.725>And, <00:33:32.852>uh, <00:33:32.979>you <00:33:33.106>know, <00:33:33.234>it's <00:33:33.361>a <00:33:33.488>very, <00:33:33.615>it's <00:33:33.743>a <00:33:33.870>very <00:33:33.997>exciting <00:33:34.125>time

887
00:33:36.005 --> 00:33:38.905
<00:33:36.005>for <00:33:36.145>a <00:33:36.285>platform <00:33:36.425>like <00:33:36.565>this, <00:33:36.705>uh, <00:33:36.845>to <00:33:36.985>be <00:33:37.125>growing <00:33:37.265>up <00:33:37.405>just

888
00:33:38.905 --> 00:33:41.465
<00:33:38.905>because <00:33:39.105>of <00:33:39.305>the <00:33:39.504>currents <00:33:39.705>that <00:33:39.905>are <00:33:40.105>happening, <00:33:40.305>um,

889
00:33:41.525 --> 00:33:42.625
<00:33:41.525>in <00:33:41.723>the <00:33:41.921>rest <00:33:42.119>of <00:33:42.317>the <00:33:42.515>ecosystem.

890
00:33:42.765 --> 00:33:45.665
<00:33:42.765>So <00:33:42.905>yeah, <00:33:43.045>it's <00:33:43.185>gonna <00:33:43.325>be, <00:33:43.465>it's <00:33:43.605>gonna <00:33:43.745>be <00:33:43.885>a <00:33:44.025>very <00:33:44.165>interesting,

891
00:33:45.665 --> 00:33:47.345
<00:33:45.665>it, <00:33:45.865>it, <00:33:46.065>it's <00:33:46.264>been <00:33:46.465>a <00:33:46.665>very <00:33:46.865>interesting <00:33:47.065>experiment.

892
00:33:47.345 --> 00:33:48.985
<00:33:47.345>It's <00:33:47.520>gonna <00:33:47.695>continue <00:33:47.870>to <00:33:48.045>be <00:33:48.220>a <00:33:48.395>very <00:33:48.570>interesting <00:33:48.745>experiment.

893
00:33:50.095 --> 00:33:52.615
<00:33:50.095>Excellent. <00:33:50.222>If <00:33:50.349>feeds <00:33:50.476>are <00:33:50.604>a <00:33:50.731>good <00:33:50.858>point, <00:33:50.985>I <00:33:51.113>mean, <00:33:51.240>I <00:33:51.367>get <00:33:51.495>most

894
00:33:52.615 --> 00:33:54.615
<00:33:52.615>of <00:33:52.848>my <00:33:53.081>information <00:33:53.315>from <00:33:53.548>RSS <00:33:53.781>feed <00:33:54.015>still.

895
00:33:54.715 --> 00:33:56.015
<00:33:54.715>I'm <00:33:55.007>using <00:33:55.300>Feedly. <00:33:55.592>Mm-hmm. <00:33:55.885>Yeah.

896
00:33:56.055 --> 00:33:57.695
<00:33:56.055>I, <00:33:56.255>I, <00:33:56.455>I <00:33:56.655>was <00:33:56.855>really <00:33:57.055>annoyed <00:33:57.255>when <00:33:57.455>Google

897
00:33:57.695 --> 00:33:59.295
<00:33:57.695>reader <00:33:58.161>shut <00:33:58.628>down <00:33:59.095>mm-hmm.

898
00:33:59.375 --> 00:34:01.855
<00:33:59.375>Because <00:33:59.515>they <00:33:59.655>like <00:33:59.795>mm-hmm. <00:33:59.935>I <00:34:00.075>mean, <00:34:00.215>it <00:34:00.355>was <00:34:00.495>very, <00:34:00.635>very <00:34:00.775>outdated

899
00:34:02.355 --> 00:34:03.895
<00:34:02.355>and <00:34:02.586>it <00:34:02.817>was <00:34:03.048>very <00:34:03.279>hard <00:34:03.510>to <00:34:03.741>maintain.

900
00:34:03.955 --> 00:34:05.935
<00:34:03.955>But <00:34:04.155>I <00:34:04.355>mean, <00:34:04.554>the, <00:34:04.754>the, <00:34:04.955>the, <00:34:05.155>the <00:34:05.355>argument

901
00:34:05.935 --> 00:34:07.855
<00:34:05.935>that <00:34:06.135>they <00:34:06.335>could <00:34:06.534>monetize, <00:34:06.735>it <00:34:06.935>made <00:34:07.135>no <00:34:07.335>sense

902
00:34:07.855 --> 00:34:09.855
<00:34:07.855>because <00:34:08.088>you <00:34:08.321>can <00:34:08.554>easily <00:34:08.788>monetize <00:34:09.021>a <00:34:09.255>feed,

903
00:34:10.475 --> 00:34:12.935
<00:34:10.475>but <00:34:10.650>there's <00:34:10.824>other <00:34:11.000>platforms <00:34:11.174>that <00:34:11.350>tried <00:34:11.525>to <00:34:11.699>do <00:34:11.875>that.

904
00:34:13.075 --> 00:34:15.695
<00:34:13.074>And, <00:34:13.250>uh, <00:34:13.424>I <00:34:13.600>love <00:34:13.774>that <00:34:13.949>the <00:34:14.125>data <00:34:14.299>is <00:34:14.475>distributed

905
00:34:15.755 --> 00:34:17.575
<00:34:15.755>and <00:34:15.930>that <00:34:16.105>I <00:34:16.280>can <00:34:16.455>actually <00:34:16.630>always <00:34:16.805>get <00:34:16.980>a <00:34:17.155>copy

906
00:34:17.595 --> 00:34:18.895
<00:34:17.594>of <00:34:17.828>it <00:34:18.062>no <00:34:18.297>matter <00:34:18.531>what <00:34:18.764>happens.

907
00:34:18.895 --> 00:34:22.415
<00:34:18.895>Because <00:34:19.034>Tumblr <00:34:19.175>was <00:34:19.315>a <00:34:19.455>great <00:34:19.594>platform <00:34:19.735>and <00:34:19.875>it <00:34:20.014>started <00:34:20.155>as <00:34:20.295>well.

908
00:34:22.475 --> 00:34:24.375
<00:34:22.475>It <00:34:22.674>was <00:34:22.875>lovely. <00:34:23.074>Yeah. <00:34:23.275>And <00:34:23.475>like, <00:34:23.674>uh, <00:34:23.875>uh,

909
00:34:24.395 --> 00:34:26.815
<00:34:24.395>and <00:34:24.570>Reddit <00:34:24.745>of <00:34:24.920>course, <00:34:25.094>like <00:34:25.270>all <00:34:25.445>the <00:34:25.620>things <00:34:25.795>there,

910
00:34:26.815 --> 00:34:30.495
<00:34:26.815>but <00:34:26.942>as <00:34:27.069>soon <00:34:27.196>as <00:34:27.324>it's <00:34:27.451>closed <00:34:27.578>and <00:34:27.705>it's <00:34:27.833>really <00:34:27.960>hard <00:34:28.087>to <00:34:28.215>maintain

911
00:34:30.795 --> 00:34:33.215
<00:34:30.795>and <00:34:30.935>it's <00:34:31.075>really <00:34:31.215>hard <00:34:31.355>to <00:34:31.495>actually <00:34:31.635>get <00:34:31.775>data <00:34:31.915>out <00:34:32.055>of <00:34:32.195>it.

912
00:34:33.375 --> 00:34:35.375
<00:34:33.375>I <00:34:33.550>mean, <00:34:33.725>you <00:34:33.900>can <00:34:34.074>get <00:34:34.250>an <00:34:34.425>export <00:34:34.600>from <00:34:34.775>Twitter,

913
00:34:35.435 --> 00:34:37.975
<00:34:35.435>but <00:34:35.610>it <00:34:35.784>takes <00:34:35.960>two <00:34:36.134>days <00:34:36.310>and <00:34:36.485>it, <00:34:36.659>it, <00:34:36.835>it,

914
00:34:38.195 --> 00:34:41.295
<00:34:38.195>it <00:34:38.370>is <00:34:38.545>a <00:34:38.720>really <00:34:38.895>un <00:34:39.070>unstructured <00:34:39.245>data <00:34:39.420>feed, <00:34:39.595>basically.

915
00:34:41.295 --> 00:34:43.855
<00:34:41.295>It's <00:34:41.450>like, <00:34:41.606>here's <00:34:41.761>a <00:34:41.917>dump <00:34:42.072>of <00:34:42.228>the <00:34:42.383>database, <00:34:42.539>basically. <00:34:42.695>Mm-hmm.

916
00:34:44.675 --> 00:34:46.695
<00:34:44.675>So, <00:34:44.875>um, <00:34:45.075>I, <00:34:45.275>I <00:34:45.475>like <00:34:45.675>that <00:34:45.875>a <00:34:46.075>lot.

917
00:34:46.875 --> 00:34:48.775
<00:34:46.875>Uh, <00:34:47.108>I <00:34:47.341>hope <00:34:47.574>that <00:34:47.808>it <00:34:48.041>will, <00:34:48.275>um,

918
00:34:49.515 --> 00:34:52.415
<00:34:49.514>it <00:34:49.748>will <00:34:49.981>get <00:34:50.214>into <00:34:50.448>people's <00:34:50.681>communication <00:34:50.915>channels,

919
00:34:52.675 --> 00:34:55.015
<00:34:52.675>but, <00:34:52.791>uh, <00:34:52.908>I <00:34:53.025>like <00:34:53.141>that <00:34:53.258>you <00:34:53.375>said <00:34:53.491>we <00:34:53.608>don't <00:34:53.725>wanna <00:34:53.841>become <00:34:53.958>a <00:34:54.075>social

920
00:34:55.015 --> 00:34:57.815
<00:34:55.014>network, <00:34:55.190>because <00:34:55.364>that <00:34:55.540>is <00:34:55.714>also <00:34:55.889>where <00:34:56.065>I <00:34:56.239>also <00:34:56.415>lost,

921
00:34:57.975 --> 00:35:00.695
<00:34:57.975>I <00:34:58.115>I <00:34:58.255>almost <00:34:58.395>lost <00:34:58.535>interest <00:34:58.674>already <00:34:58.815>in <00:34:58.955>Twitter <00:34:59.095>in <00:34:59.235>like <00:34:59.375>2010

922
00:35:00.695 --> 00:35:03.375
<00:35:00.695>when <00:35:00.895>everything <00:35:01.095>was <00:35:01.295>about <00:35:01.495>celebrities <00:35:01.695>and <00:35:01.895>sports <00:35:02.095>teams

923
00:35:03.515 --> 00:35:06.895
<00:35:03.515>and <00:35:03.690>like <00:35:03.865>companies, <00:35:04.040>and <00:35:04.214>you're <00:35:04.390>like, <00:35:04.565>I <00:35:04.740>don't <00:35:04.915>care.

924
00:35:07.055 --> 00:35:10.775
<00:35:07.055>I, <00:35:07.171>I <00:35:07.288>Kellogg's <00:35:07.404>can, <00:35:07.521>doesn't <00:35:07.638>have <00:35:07.754>anything <00:35:07.871>to <00:35:07.988>say <00:35:08.105>to <00:35:08.221>me <00:35:08.338>as <00:35:08.455>a,

925
00:35:10.915 --> 00:35:12.455
<00:35:10.915>is <00:35:11.192>not <00:35:11.469>a <00:35:11.746>person, <00:35:12.023>you <00:35:12.301>know?

926
00:35:12.535 --> 00:35:13.735
<00:35:12.535>I <00:35:12.750>mean, <00:35:12.967>you <00:35:13.183>can't <00:35:13.399>do <00:35:13.615>it

927
00:35:13.735 --> 00:35:15.575
<00:35:13.735>by <00:35:14.015>having <00:35:14.295>people <00:35:14.575>working <00:35:14.855>for <00:35:15.135>companies.

928
00:35:15.655 --> 00:35:18.695
<00:35:15.655>I <00:35:15.795>mean, <00:35:15.935>I <00:35:16.075>love, <00:35:16.215>for <00:35:16.355>example, <00:35:16.495>that <00:35:16.635>Sweden <00:35:16.775>had <00:35:16.915>like, <00:35:17.055>uh,

929
00:35:18.725 --> 00:35:21.655
<00:35:18.725>gave <00:35:18.880>the <00:35:19.036>Twitter <00:35:19.191>account <00:35:19.347>to <00:35:19.502>a <00:35:19.658>Swedish <00:35:19.813>citizen <00:35:19.969>every <00:35:20.125>day,

930
00:35:21.655 --> 00:35:23.175
<00:35:21.655>and <00:35:21.850>it <00:35:22.045>could <00:35:22.241>be <00:35:22.436>the <00:35:22.632>most <00:35:22.827>random <00:35:23.023>people

931
00:35:23.925 --> 00:35:25.455
<00:35:23.925>posting <00:35:24.384>whatever <00:35:24.843>they <00:35:25.302>wanted.

932
00:35:26.075 --> 00:35:28.735
<00:35:26.075>And <00:35:26.274>really, <00:35:26.475>yeah, <00:35:26.674>I <00:35:26.875>kind <00:35:27.075>of <00:35:27.274>love <00:35:27.475>that.

933
00:35:28.765 --> 00:35:31.055
<00:35:28.765>Like, <00:35:28.964>that's <00:35:29.165>kind <00:35:29.365>of <00:35:29.565>like, <00:35:29.765>that's <00:35:29.964>amazing. <00:35:30.165>Yeah.

934
00:35:31.635 --> 00:35:34.055
<00:35:31.635>That's <00:35:31.775>what <00:35:31.915>a <00:35:32.055>government <00:35:32.195>can <00:35:32.335>do <00:35:32.475>when <00:35:32.615>it <00:35:32.755>trust <00:35:32.895>its <00:35:33.035>people,

935
00:35:34.195 --> 00:35:37.775
<00:35:34.195>but <00:35:34.350>it's <00:35:34.506>just, <00:35:34.661>it's <00:35:34.817>really, <00:35:34.972>it's <00:35:35.128>really <00:35:35.283>interesting <00:35:35.439>to <00:35:35.595>see

936
00:35:37.775 --> 00:35:41.815
<00:35:37.775>that <00:35:37.950>your, <00:35:38.125>uh, <00:35:38.300>that <00:35:38.475>your <00:35:38.650>aspirations <00:35:38.825>are <00:35:39.000>differently <00:35:39.175>than

937
00:35:41.815 --> 00:35:43.375
<00:35:41.815>just <00:35:41.990>like, <00:35:42.165>we <00:35:42.340>want <00:35:42.515>to <00:35:42.690>be <00:35:42.865>the <00:35:43.040>next <00:35:43.215>one.

938
00:35:44.145 --> 00:35:46.855
<00:35:44.145>Hello? <00:35:44.320>I <00:35:44.495>don't <00:35:44.670>know <00:35:44.845>what <00:35:45.020>happened <00:35:45.195>to <00:35:45.370>that <00:35:45.545>one.

939
00:35:47.165 --> 00:35:50.735
<00:35:47.165>Yeah, <00:35:47.365>yeah, <00:35:47.565>yeah. <00:35:47.765>That <00:35:47.965>was, <00:35:48.165>that <00:35:48.365>was <00:35:48.565>fun.

940
00:35:50.855 --> 00:35:52.295
<00:35:50.855>I <00:35:51.179>remember <00:35:51.503>that <00:35:51.827>everyone <00:35:52.151>rushing

941
00:35:52.295 --> 00:35:53.335
<00:35:52.295>to <00:35:52.482>get <00:35:52.669>their <00:35:52.856>usernames <00:35:53.043>and <00:35:53.231>everything.

942
00:35:53.335 --> 00:35:55.095
<00:35:53.335>Yeah. <00:35:53.535>I <00:35:53.735>don't <00:35:53.935>know <00:35:54.135>what <00:35:54.335>happened <00:35:54.535>to <00:35:54.735>it.

943
00:35:55.135 --> 00:35:57.415
<00:35:55.135>I, <00:35:55.310>I <00:35:55.485>think <00:35:55.660>it <00:35:55.835>shut <00:35:56.010>down <00:35:56.185>recently <00:35:56.360>actually. <00:35:56.535>Yeah.

944
00:35:57.415 --> 00:35:59.495
<00:35:57.415>Alright. <00:35:57.615>I <00:35:57.815>mean <00:35:58.015>the, <00:35:58.215>the <00:35:58.415>fun <00:35:58.615>bit <00:35:58.815>that,

945
00:35:59.495 --> 00:36:00.655
<00:35:59.495>like <00:35:59.843>the <00:36:00.191>fake <00:36:00.539>currency

946
00:36:00.795 --> 00:36:04.295
<00:36:00.795>and <00:36:00.970>the <00:36:01.145>fake <00:36:01.320>scarceness <00:36:01.495>of <00:36:01.670>like <00:36:01.845>invite <00:36:02.020>codes <00:36:02.195>Yeah.

947
00:36:04.385 --> 00:36:05.855
<00:36:04.385>Works <00:36:04.649>at <00:36:04.914>the <00:36:05.178>beginning <00:36:05.443>when <00:36:05.708>you

948
00:36:05.855 --> 00:36:06.935
<00:36:05.855>want <00:36:06.049>to <00:36:06.243>grow <00:36:06.438>something <00:36:06.632>like <00:36:06.827>that.

949
00:36:06.955 --> 00:36:08.375
<00:36:06.955>Mm-hmm. <00:36:07.274>It <00:36:07.594>really <00:36:07.913>happens. <00:36:08.233>Like,

950
00:36:08.495 --> 00:36:09.935
<00:36:08.495>I <00:36:08.656>remember <00:36:08.819>like, <00:36:08.981>oh, <00:36:09.143>you <00:36:09.305>got <00:36:09.467>a <00:36:09.629>Twitter <00:36:09.791>invite.

951
00:36:09.935 --> 00:36:11.975
<00:36:09.935>Oh, <00:36:10.168>that's <00:36:10.401>amazing. <00:36:10.634>Like, <00:36:10.868>you <00:36:11.101>know. <00:36:11.335>Yeah.

952
00:36:12.285 --> 00:36:15.895
<00:36:12.285>Yeah. <00:36:12.412>No, <00:36:12.539>it <00:36:12.666>is <00:36:12.794>strange <00:36:12.921>that <00:36:13.048>yeah, <00:36:13.175>we <00:36:13.303>saw <00:36:13.430>the <00:36:13.557>same <00:36:13.685>thing.

953
00:36:15.895 --> 00:36:17.655
<00:36:15.895>Yeah, <00:36:16.128>exactly. <00:36:16.361>Like, <00:36:16.595>people <00:36:16.828>were <00:36:17.061>very <00:36:17.295>excited.

954
00:36:17.935 --> 00:36:19.335
<00:36:17.935>I <00:36:18.075>mean, <00:36:18.215>there <00:36:18.355>were, <00:36:18.495>there <00:36:18.635>were <00:36:18.775>folks, <00:36:18.915>you <00:36:19.055>know, <00:36:19.195>months

955
00:36:19.335 --> 00:36:20.855
<00:36:19.335>after <00:36:19.608>we <00:36:19.882>were <00:36:20.155>removed, <00:36:20.429>invite <00:36:20.703>codes

956
00:36:20.855 --> 00:36:22.255
<00:36:20.855>that <00:36:20.995>were <00:36:21.135>like, <00:36:21.275>I'm <00:36:21.415>still <00:36:21.555>waiting <00:36:21.695>for <00:36:21.835>an <00:36:21.975>invite <00:36:22.115>code.

957
00:36:22.315 --> 00:36:23.375
<00:36:22.315>I'm <00:36:22.553>so <00:36:22.792>excited <00:36:23.030>to <00:36:23.269>join.

958
00:36:24.075 --> 00:36:26.335
<00:36:24.075>Um, <00:36:24.230>yeah, <00:36:24.386>it's <00:36:24.541>a, <00:36:24.697>it's <00:36:24.852>a <00:36:25.008>strange <00:36:25.163>thing, <00:36:25.319>you <00:36:25.475>know,

959
00:36:26.335 --> 00:36:28.615
<00:36:26.335>humans <00:36:26.568>are, <00:36:26.801>humans <00:36:27.035>are <00:36:27.268>strange <00:36:27.501>birds. <00:36:27.735>Yeah.

960
00:36:29.565 --> 00:36:31.415
<00:36:29.565>Well, <00:36:30.031>same <00:36:30.498>thing, <00:36:30.965>birds.

961
00:36:31.515 --> 00:36:33.415
<00:36:31.515>We <00:36:31.654>had, <00:36:31.795>uh, <00:36:31.935>we <00:36:32.075>had <00:36:32.214>the <00:36:32.355>bird, <00:36:32.495>we <00:36:32.634>had <00:36:32.775>the <00:36:32.915>egg,

962
00:36:33.415 --> 00:36:36.055
<00:36:33.415>and <00:36:33.542>now <00:36:33.669>we <00:36:33.796>got <00:36:33.924>an <00:36:34.051>X, <00:36:34.178>but <00:36:34.305>you <00:36:34.433>still <00:36:34.560>got <00:36:34.687>a <00:36:34.815>blue,

963
00:36:36.355 --> 00:36:40.015
<00:36:36.355>got <00:36:36.482>a <00:36:36.609>blue <00:36:36.736>sky, <00:36:36.864>and <00:36:36.991>you <00:36:37.118>got <00:36:37.245>your, <00:36:37.373>uh, <00:36:37.500>your, <00:36:37.627>uh, <00:36:37.755>butterfly.

964
00:36:40.115 --> 00:36:41.175
<00:36:40.115>So <00:36:40.305>that's <00:36:40.496>a <00:36:40.687>good <00:36:40.878>thing <00:36:41.069>too.

965
00:36:41.805 --> 00:36:44.055
<00:36:41.805>Yeah. <00:36:42.004>Cool. <00:36:42.205>Well, <00:36:42.404>I <00:36:42.605>thank <00:36:42.805>you <00:36:43.004>very <00:36:43.205>much.

966
00:36:44.125 --> 00:36:47.135
<00:36:44.125>This <00:36:44.280>was <00:36:44.436>great. <00:36:44.591>Um, <00:36:44.747>anything <00:36:44.902>you <00:36:45.058>want <00:36:45.213>from <00:36:45.369>our <00:36:45.525>community?

967
00:36:47.135 --> 00:36:50.615
<00:36:47.135>Like <00:36:47.290>what, <00:36:47.446>uh, <00:36:47.601>what <00:36:47.757>should <00:36:47.912>people <00:36:48.068>get <00:36:48.223>started <00:36:48.379>with <00:36:48.535>that?

968
00:36:50.645 --> 00:36:54.255
<00:36:50.645>What <00:36:50.772>should <00:36:50.899>feedback <00:36:51.026>do <00:36:51.154>you <00:36:51.281>want? <00:36:51.408>What <00:36:51.535>can <00:36:51.663>we <00:36:51.790>do <00:36:51.917>for <00:36:52.045>you?

969
00:36:55.545 --> 00:36:58.915
<00:36:55.545>Well, <00:36:55.685>I <00:36:55.825>mean, <00:36:55.965>I'd <00:36:56.105>love <00:36:56.245>to <00:36:56.385>see <00:36:56.525>people <00:36:56.665>building <00:36:56.805>on <00:36:56.945>more

970
00:36:59.315 --> 00:37:02.115
<00:36:59.315>platforms, <00:36:59.455>you <00:36:59.595>know, <00:36:59.735>like, <00:36:59.875>um, <00:37:00.015>we're <00:37:00.155>not <00:37:00.295>quite <00:37:00.435>at <00:37:00.575>the <00:37:00.715>point

971
00:37:02.115 --> 00:37:04.075
<00:37:02.115>where <00:37:02.290>we <00:37:02.464>can <00:37:02.640>like <00:37:02.814>build <00:37:02.990>on <00:37:03.165>something <00:37:03.339>like <00:37:03.515>vercel

972
00:37:04.075 --> 00:37:05.075
<00:37:04.075>or <00:37:04.254>something <00:37:04.435>like <00:37:04.615>a <00:37:04.794>full <00:37:04.975>stack

973
00:37:05.075 --> 00:37:06.515
<00:37:05.075>application, <00:37:05.334>but <00:37:05.593>we're <00:37:05.852>very, <00:37:06.111>very <00:37:06.371>close.

974
00:37:06.655 --> 00:37:10.075
<00:37:06.655>And <00:37:06.782>so <00:37:06.909>like <00:37:07.036>understanding <00:37:07.164>like <00:37:07.291>a <00:37:07.418>lot <00:37:07.545>of <00:37:07.673>the <00:37:07.800>pain <00:37:07.927>points, <00:37:08.055>um,

975
00:37:10.815 --> 00:37:12.635
<00:37:10.815>for <00:37:10.990>developers, <00:37:11.165>you <00:37:11.340>know, <00:37:11.515>that <00:37:11.690>are, <00:37:11.865>that <00:37:12.040>are <00:37:12.215>working

976
00:37:12.635 --> 00:37:14.675
<00:37:12.635>with <00:37:12.868>maybe <00:37:13.101>more, <00:37:13.335>this <00:37:13.568>is, <00:37:13.801>this <00:37:14.035>is,

977
00:37:14.695 --> 00:37:16.715
<00:37:14.695>I'm <00:37:14.835>saying <00:37:14.975>this <00:37:15.115>from <00:37:15.255>like <00:37:15.395>a <00:37:15.535>front <00:37:15.675>end <00:37:15.815>perspective, <00:37:15.955>you <00:37:16.095>know,

978
00:37:16.715 --> 00:37:18.475
<00:37:16.715>again, <00:37:16.915>like <00:37:17.115>I'm <00:37:17.315>not <00:37:17.515>a <00:37:17.715>deep <00:37:17.915>infrastructure <00:37:18.115>guy

979
00:37:18.475 --> 00:37:20.715
<00:37:18.475>that <00:37:18.650>could <00:37:18.825>be <00:37:19.000>running <00:37:19.174>like <00:37:19.350>lots <00:37:19.525>of <00:37:19.700>Docker <00:37:19.875>containers

980
00:37:20.715 --> 00:37:21.955
<00:37:20.715>or <00:37:20.938>Kubernetes <00:37:21.161>or <00:37:21.384>anything <00:37:21.607>like <00:37:21.831>that.

981
00:37:22.335 --> 00:37:23.515
<00:37:22.335>And <00:37:22.547>so, <00:37:22.759>like, <00:37:22.972>I'm <00:37:23.184>really <00:37:23.397>excited

982
00:37:23.515 --> 00:37:26.275
<00:37:23.515>for <00:37:23.631>the <00:37:23.748>day <00:37:23.865>when <00:37:23.981>people <00:37:24.098>can, <00:37:24.214>you <00:37:24.331>know, <00:37:24.448>spin <00:37:24.565>up <00:37:24.681>a <00:37:24.798>starter <00:37:24.915>kit

983
00:37:26.275 --> 00:37:28.795
<00:37:26.275>or <00:37:26.508>a <00:37:26.741>boilerplate <00:37:26.975>on <00:37:27.208>Versal <00:37:27.441>or <00:37:27.675>CloudFlare

984
00:37:28.835 --> 00:37:30.315
<00:37:28.835>or <00:37:29.101>Netlify <00:37:29.367>or <00:37:29.634>something <00:37:29.900>like <00:37:30.167>that.

985
00:37:30.775 --> 00:37:32.395
<00:37:30.775>Um, <00:37:31.055>and <00:37:31.335>builds, <00:37:31.615>you <00:37:31.895>know, <00:37:32.175>more

986
00:37:32.395 --> 00:37:34.995
<00:37:32.395>or <00:37:32.570>less <00:37:32.745>fully <00:37:32.920>featured <00:37:33.095>applications <00:37:33.270>on, <00:37:33.445>on <00:37:33.620>our <00:37:33.795>network.

987
00:37:35.135 --> 00:37:38.555
<00:37:35.135>And <00:37:35.290>so <00:37:35.446>understanding <00:37:35.601>kind <00:37:35.757>of <00:37:35.912>the <00:37:36.068>pain <00:37:36.223>points <00:37:36.379>there, <00:37:36.535>um,

988
00:37:39.375 --> 00:37:42.235
<00:37:39.375>you <00:37:39.530>know, <00:37:39.686>issues <00:37:39.841>with <00:37:39.997>like <00:37:40.152>backfill <00:37:40.308>for <00:37:40.463>instance, <00:37:40.619>uh, <00:37:40.775>uh,

989
00:37:42.415 --> 00:37:43.755
<00:37:42.415>is <00:37:42.656>one <00:37:42.897>that <00:37:43.138>comes, <00:37:43.379>um, <00:37:43.621>top

990
00:37:43.755 --> 00:37:45.835
<00:37:43.755>of <00:37:44.035>mind <00:37:44.315>is <00:37:44.595>really, <00:37:44.875>really <00:37:45.155>valuable.

991
00:37:46.215 --> 00:37:48.995
<00:37:46.215>And <00:37:46.370>just <00:37:46.526>knowing <00:37:46.681>like <00:37:46.837>where <00:37:46.992>the <00:37:47.148>gaps <00:37:47.303>in <00:37:47.459>knowledge <00:37:47.615>are.

992
00:37:49.815 --> 00:37:52.595
<00:37:49.815>And, <00:37:50.095>you <00:37:50.375>know, <00:37:50.655>in <00:37:50.935>the <00:37:51.215>past

993
00:37:52.655 --> 00:37:54.355
<00:37:52.655>that's <00:37:53.005>predominantly <00:37:53.355>come <00:37:53.705>I <00:37:54.055>think,

994
00:37:54.385 --> 00:37:56.755
<00:37:54.385>from <00:37:54.665>external <00:37:54.945>developers <00:37:55.225>working <00:37:55.505>on <00:37:55.785>things.

995
00:37:56.935 --> 00:37:58.995
<00:37:56.935>Of <00:37:57.075>course, <00:37:57.215>we <00:37:57.355>all, <00:37:57.495>you <00:37:57.634>know, <00:37:57.775>dog <00:37:57.915>food, <00:37:58.055>this <00:37:58.195>stuff <00:37:58.335>too.

996
00:37:58.995 --> 00:37:59.795
<00:37:58.995>We <00:37:59.139>all <00:37:59.283>have <00:37:59.427>like <00:37:59.571>our <00:37:59.715>little

997
00:37:59.855 --> 00:38:00.915
<00:37:59.855>toy <00:38:00.045>apps <00:38:00.236>and <00:38:00.427>things <00:38:00.618>we're <00:38:00.809>building.

998
00:38:00.975 --> 00:38:04.595
<00:38:00.975>But, <00:38:01.174>um, <00:38:01.375>community <00:38:01.575>members' <00:38:01.775>perspectives <00:38:01.975>are, <00:38:02.174>you <00:38:02.375>know,

999
00:38:04.695 --> 00:38:06.315
<00:38:04.695>far <00:38:04.975>more <00:38:05.255>valuable <00:38:05.535>than <00:38:05.815>ours <00:38:06.095>sometimes

1000
00:38:06.315 --> 00:38:08.635
<00:38:06.315>because <00:38:06.470>we <00:38:06.626>have <00:38:06.781>this <00:38:06.937>kind <00:38:07.092>of <00:38:07.248>internal <00:38:07.403>bias <00:38:07.559>of <00:38:07.715>like,

1001
00:38:08.635 --> 00:38:10.435
<00:38:08.635>generally <00:38:08.868>knowing <00:38:09.101>how <00:38:09.335>things <00:38:09.568>work <00:38:09.801>and <00:38:10.035>stuff.

1002
00:38:10.535 --> 00:38:13.275
<00:38:10.535>So <00:38:10.734>getting <00:38:10.935>someone <00:38:11.134>bootstrapped <00:38:11.335>from <00:38:11.535>zero <00:38:11.734>to <00:38:11.935>one

1003
00:38:13.735 --> 00:38:16.115
<00:38:13.735>and <00:38:13.935>logging <00:38:14.135>in <00:38:14.335>with <00:38:14.535>OAuth <00:38:14.735>and <00:38:14.935>ingesting <00:38:15.135>data

1004
00:38:16.455 --> 00:38:18.955
<00:38:16.455>and <00:38:16.630>handling, <00:38:16.805>you <00:38:16.980>know, <00:38:17.154>user <00:38:17.330>stuff, <00:38:17.505>it's, <00:38:17.680>you <00:38:17.855>know,

1005
00:38:19.135 --> 00:38:20.635
<00:38:19.135>that's <00:38:19.472>like <00:38:19.810>super, <00:38:20.147>super <00:38:20.485>valuable.

1006
00:38:20.635 --> 00:38:22.315
<00:38:20.635>And <00:38:20.790>I <00:38:20.946>think <00:38:21.101>we're <00:38:21.257>like <00:38:21.412>right <00:38:21.568>in <00:38:21.723>the <00:38:21.879>cusp <00:38:22.035>of,

1007
00:38:22.315 --> 00:38:23.635
<00:38:22.315>of <00:38:22.513>being <00:38:22.711>like <00:38:22.909>really <00:38:23.107>good <00:38:23.305>for <00:38:23.503>that.

1008
00:38:23.635 --> 00:38:27.555
<00:38:23.635>And <00:38:23.810>so <00:38:23.985>I'm <00:38:24.160>really <00:38:24.335>excited <00:38:24.510>for, <00:38:24.685>for, <00:38:24.860>um, <00:38:25.035>developers

1009
00:38:27.575 --> 00:38:30.715
<00:38:27.575>to <00:38:27.774>start <00:38:27.975>building, <00:38:28.174>um, <00:38:28.375>you <00:38:28.575>know, <00:38:28.774>toy <00:38:28.975>ops,

1010
00:38:30.715 --> 00:38:33.155
<00:38:30.715>but <00:38:30.870>building <00:38:31.026>things <00:38:31.181>that, <00:38:31.337>you <00:38:31.492>know, <00:38:31.648>could <00:38:31.803>go <00:38:31.959>the <00:38:32.115>distance

1011
00:38:33.175 --> 00:38:35.280
<00:38:33.175>and, <00:38:33.315>uh, <00:38:33.455>you <00:38:33.595>know, <00:38:33.735>really <00:38:33.875>scale <00:38:34.015>up <00:38:34.155>at <00:38:34.295>some <00:38:34.435>some <00:38:34.575>point.

1012
00:38:35.345 --> 00:38:36.345
<00:38:35.345>So, <00:38:36.245>um,

1013
00:38:37.275 --> 00:38:38.325
<00:38:37.275>Talk <00:38:37.747>about <00:38:38.220>broadbent.

1014
00:38:38.585 --> 00:38:41.685
<00:38:38.585>I'm <00:38:38.740>a <00:38:38.896>huge <00:38:39.051>accessibility <00:38:39.207>person <00:38:39.362>and, <00:38:39.518>uh, <00:38:39.673>I'm, <00:38:39.829>I'm <00:38:39.985>huge.

1015
00:38:41.785 --> 00:38:43.885
<00:38:41.785>I'm <00:38:42.018>old. <00:38:42.251>Uh, <00:38:42.484>but <00:38:42.718>like, <00:38:42.951>what, <00:38:43.185>what,

1016
00:38:43.915 --> 00:38:46.365
<00:38:43.915>what <00:38:44.055>I <00:38:44.195>find <00:38:44.335>amazing <00:38:44.475>is <00:38:44.615>like <00:38:44.755>when <00:38:44.895>you <00:38:45.035>upload <00:38:45.175>an <00:38:45.315>image

1017
00:38:47.065 --> 00:38:49.045
<00:38:47.065>and <00:38:47.345>you <00:38:47.625>basically, <00:38:47.905>it, <00:38:48.185>it <00:38:48.465>says,

1018
00:38:49.045 --> 00:38:51.325
<00:38:49.045>immediately <00:38:49.278>I <00:38:49.511>hear <00:38:49.745>all <00:38:49.978>text <00:38:50.211>describes <00:38:50.445>images

1019
00:38:51.345 --> 00:38:52.645
<00:38:51.345>for <00:38:51.578>blind <00:38:51.812>and <00:38:52.047>low <00:38:52.281>vision <00:38:52.515>users.

1020
00:38:53.015 --> 00:38:54.885
<00:38:53.015>Thank <00:38:53.248>you <00:38:53.481>so <00:38:53.714>much. <00:38:53.948>Every <00:38:54.181>image <00:38:54.415>should

1021
00:38:54.885 --> 00:38:55.925
<00:38:54.885>have <00:38:55.197>an <00:38:55.509>alternative <00:38:55.821>text.

1022
00:38:55.985 --> 00:38:57.965
<00:38:55.985>So <00:38:56.160>that's <00:38:56.335>really <00:38:56.510>cool <00:38:56.685>that <00:38:56.860>it <00:38:57.035>does <00:38:57.210>that. <00:38:57.385>Mm-hmm.

1023
00:38:58.155 --> 00:38:59.765
<00:38:58.155>What <00:38:58.388>drives <00:38:58.621>me <00:38:58.855>crazy <00:38:59.088>is <00:38:59.321>though, <00:38:59.555>like,

1024
00:38:59.765 --> 00:39:01.085
<00:38:59.765>why <00:39:00.002>isn't <00:39:00.240>that <00:39:00.477>an <00:39:00.715>entry <00:39:00.953>field?

1025
00:39:01.665 --> 00:39:03.525
<00:39:01.665>Why <00:39:01.840>do <00:39:02.015>I <00:39:02.190>still <00:39:02.365>have <00:39:02.540>to <00:39:02.715>press <00:39:02.890>that <00:39:03.065>alt

1026
00:39:03.545 --> 00:39:04.965
<00:39:03.545>to <00:39:03.864>actually <00:39:04.184>start <00:39:04.503>editing <00:39:04.823>it?

1027
00:39:05.155 --> 00:39:06.245
<00:39:05.155>Yeah. <00:39:05.400>That <00:39:05.645>tiny <00:39:05.890>little <00:39:06.136>button.

1028
00:39:06.955 --> 00:39:08.285
<00:39:06.955>Yeah. <00:39:07.254>That <00:39:07.553>could <00:39:07.852>be <00:39:08.152>just,

1029
00:39:08.395 --> 00:39:10.405
<00:39:08.395>just <00:39:08.535>the <00:39:08.675>text <00:39:08.815>box <00:39:08.955>that <00:39:09.095>allows <00:39:09.235>me <00:39:09.375>to <00:39:09.515>do <00:39:09.655>it. <00:39:09.795>Right.

1030
00:39:11.005 --> 00:39:14.265
<00:39:11.005>That's <00:39:11.285>a <00:39:11.565>good <00:39:11.845>point. <00:39:12.125>Yeah. <00:39:12.405>Right.

1031
00:39:14.365 --> 00:39:16.185
<00:39:14.365>So, <00:39:14.645>yeah, <00:39:14.924>no, <00:39:15.205>we, <00:39:15.484>we, <00:39:15.765>uh,

1032
00:39:16.535 --> 00:39:18.345
<00:39:16.535>accessibility <00:39:16.815>is <00:39:17.095>definitely <00:39:17.375>something <00:39:17.654>we <00:39:17.935>need.

1033
00:39:18.365 --> 00:39:19.985
<00:39:18.365>Um, <00:39:18.564>you <00:39:18.765>know, <00:39:18.964>we've, <00:39:19.165>we've, <00:39:19.365>we've <00:39:19.564>done <00:39:19.765>some,

1034
00:39:19.985 --> 00:39:21.865
<00:39:19.985>but <00:39:20.160>I'm <00:39:20.335>sure <00:39:20.510>you've <00:39:20.685>found <00:39:20.860>other <00:39:21.035>pitfalls <00:39:21.210>as <00:39:21.385>well.

1035
00:39:22.245 --> 00:39:24.665
<00:39:22.245>Um, <00:39:22.384>it <00:39:22.525>is <00:39:22.665>something <00:39:22.805>on <00:39:22.944>our, <00:39:23.085>on <00:39:23.225>our, <00:39:23.365>on <00:39:23.505>our <00:39:23.645>minds.

1036
00:39:24.805 --> 00:39:27.385
<00:39:24.805>Um, <00:39:24.960>I <00:39:25.116>actually <00:39:25.271>currently <00:39:25.427>have <00:39:25.582>some <00:39:25.738>work <00:39:25.893>in <00:39:26.049>progress <00:39:26.205>code,

1037
00:39:27.765 --> 00:39:30.985
<00:39:27.765>um, <00:39:27.920>that <00:39:28.076>depends <00:39:28.231>on <00:39:28.387>some <00:39:28.542>other <00:39:28.698>like, <00:39:28.853>um, <00:39:29.009>TypeScript <00:39:29.165>things.

1038
00:39:31.405 --> 00:39:33.145
<00:39:31.405>Uh, <00:39:31.580>we <00:39:31.755>have <00:39:31.930>some <00:39:32.105>facilities <00:39:32.280>that <00:39:32.455>are <00:39:32.630>gonna <00:39:32.805>make

1039
00:39:33.905 --> 00:39:35.305
<00:39:33.905>constructing <00:39:34.115>these <00:39:34.325>types <00:39:34.535>of <00:39:34.745>UIs <00:39:34.955>a <00:39:35.165>lot

1040
00:39:35.305 --> 00:39:36.705
<00:39:35.305>easier <00:39:35.725>coming <00:39:36.145>very <00:39:36.565>soon.

1041
00:39:36.885 --> 00:39:38.145
<00:39:36.885>And <00:39:37.047>one <00:39:37.209>of <00:39:37.371>the <00:39:37.533>things <00:39:37.695>I <00:39:37.857>wanna <00:39:38.019>do

1042
00:39:38.145 --> 00:39:40.345
<00:39:38.145>after <00:39:38.345>that <00:39:38.545>is, <00:39:38.745>is <00:39:38.945>really <00:39:39.145>like <00:39:39.345>revamp, <00:39:39.545>um,

1043
00:39:40.775 --> 00:39:41.985
<00:39:40.775>some <00:39:41.319>accessibility <00:39:41.864>things

1044
00:39:42.685 --> 00:39:44.225
<00:39:42.685>and, <00:39:42.962>uh, <00:39:43.239>the <00:39:43.516>composer <00:39:43.793>in <00:39:44.071>general,

1045
00:39:44.775 --> 00:39:45.985
<00:39:44.775>lots <00:39:44.992>of <00:39:45.210>plans <00:39:45.428>for <00:39:45.646>improving <00:39:45.864>that.

1046
00:39:46.005 --> 00:39:47.825
<00:39:46.005>And <00:39:46.180>so <00:39:46.355>that's <00:39:46.530>actually <00:39:46.705>a <00:39:46.880>really <00:39:47.055>good <00:39:47.230>call <00:39:47.405>out

1047
00:39:47.825 --> 00:39:49.705
<00:39:47.825>to <00:39:48.024>make <00:39:48.225>the <00:39:48.424>alt <00:39:48.625>text, <00:39:48.825>uh, <00:39:49.024>more <00:39:49.225>obvious

1048
00:39:49.765 --> 00:39:51.025
<00:39:49.765>and <00:39:49.991>easier <00:39:50.218>for <00:39:50.445>people <00:39:50.672>to <00:39:50.899>add.

1049
00:39:51.435 --> 00:39:53.145
<00:39:51.435>We've <00:39:51.634>also <00:39:51.835>had <00:39:52.035>a <00:39:52.235>suggestion <00:39:52.435>of <00:39:52.634>like, <00:39:52.835>um,

1050
00:39:54.445 --> 00:39:55.685
<00:39:54.445>actually <00:39:54.584>I <00:39:54.724>don't, <00:39:54.863>do <00:39:55.003>we <00:39:55.142>have <00:39:55.282>this <00:39:55.421>integrated <00:39:55.561>yet?

1051
00:39:55.685 --> 00:39:57.045
<00:39:55.685>I <00:39:55.889>don't <00:39:56.093>know, <00:39:56.297>but, <00:39:56.501>um, <00:39:56.705>like <00:39:56.909>trying

1052
00:39:57.045 --> 00:39:59.605
<00:39:57.045>to <00:39:57.185>like <00:39:57.325>suggest <00:39:57.465>alt <00:39:57.605>text <00:39:57.745>based <00:39:57.885>on <00:39:58.025>the <00:39:58.165>image, <00:39:58.305>you <00:39:58.445>know,

1053
00:39:59.605 --> 00:40:01.125
<00:39:59.605>it's <00:39:59.800>a <00:39:59.995>fairly <00:40:00.191>easy <00:40:00.386>feature <00:40:00.582>to <00:40:00.777>get <00:40:00.973>in.

1054
00:40:01.465 --> 00:40:04.085
<00:40:01.465>Um, <00:40:01.620>it's <00:40:01.776>really, <00:40:01.931>there's <00:40:02.087>like <00:40:02.242>no <00:40:02.398>reason <00:40:02.553>for <00:40:02.709>people <00:40:02.865>not

1055
00:40:04.085 --> 00:40:06.205
<00:40:04.085>to <00:40:04.225>use <00:40:04.365>alt <00:40:04.505>text <00:40:04.645>other <00:40:04.785>than <00:40:04.925>it's, <00:40:05.065>you <00:40:05.205>know, <00:40:05.345>it's <00:40:05.485>kind

1056
00:40:06.205 --> 00:40:08.045
<00:40:06.205>of <00:40:06.380>difficult <00:40:06.555>to <00:40:06.730>add <00:40:06.904>and <00:40:07.080>it, <00:40:07.255>it <00:40:07.430>takes <00:40:07.605>time,

1057
00:40:08.225 --> 00:40:10.045
<00:40:08.225>but <00:40:08.400>if <00:40:08.575>we <00:40:08.750>can <00:40:08.924>like <00:40:09.100>grease <00:40:09.275>the <00:40:09.450>wheels <00:40:09.625>there

1058
00:40:10.045 --> 00:40:12.365
<00:40:10.045>and <00:40:10.185>make <00:40:10.325>it <00:40:10.465>easier, <00:40:10.605>then <00:40:10.745>there's <00:40:10.885>really <00:40:11.025>no <00:40:11.165>reason <00:40:11.305>we <00:40:11.445>can't

1059
00:40:12.365 --> 00:40:14.125
<00:40:12.365>make <00:40:12.598>all <00:40:12.831>this <00:40:13.064>stuff <00:40:13.298>like, <00:40:13.531>extremely <00:40:13.765>accessible

1060
00:40:14.125 --> 00:40:15.245
<00:40:14.125>and <00:40:14.293>pleasant <00:40:14.461>for <00:40:14.629>people <00:40:14.797>to <00:40:14.965>use <00:40:15.133>with

1061
00:40:15.245 --> 00:40:16.365
<00:40:15.245>a <00:40:15.413>screen <00:40:15.580>reader <00:40:15.749>and <00:40:15.917>stuff <00:40:16.085>like <00:40:16.252>that.

1062
00:40:16.505 --> 00:40:18.845
<00:40:16.505>So <00:40:16.738>yeah, <00:40:16.971>definitely, <00:40:17.205>definitely <00:40:17.438>on <00:40:17.671>our <00:40:17.905>minds.

1063
00:40:18.945 --> 00:40:20.645
<00:40:18.945>Um, <00:40:19.145>if <00:40:19.345>you <00:40:19.545>have <00:40:19.745>other <00:40:19.945>thoughts, <00:40:20.145>you <00:40:20.345>know,

1064
00:40:20.645 --> 00:40:22.045
<00:40:20.645>definitely <00:40:20.855>hit <00:40:21.065>me <00:40:21.275>up <00:40:21.485>on <00:40:21.695>the <00:40:21.905>network

1065
00:40:22.145 --> 00:40:23.485
<00:40:22.145>or <00:40:22.317>anyone <00:40:22.489>that's <00:40:22.661>listening <00:40:22.834>to <00:40:23.006>this <00:40:23.178>as <00:40:23.351>well.

1066
00:40:23.825 --> 00:40:26.925
<00:40:23.825>Um, <00:40:23.964>we're, <00:40:24.105>we're <00:40:24.245>very <00:40:24.384>much <00:40:24.524>open <00:40:24.665>to <00:40:24.805>these, <00:40:24.944>uh, <00:40:25.085>these <00:40:25.225>types

1067
00:40:26.925 --> 00:40:29.485
<00:40:26.925>of <00:40:27.100>suggestions, <00:40:27.275>um, <00:40:27.450>and <00:40:27.625>the <00:40:27.800>GitHub's <00:40:27.975>open <00:40:28.150>as <00:40:28.325>well.

1068
00:40:29.505 --> 00:40:31.125
<00:40:29.505>So, <00:40:29.680>you <00:40:29.855>know, <00:40:30.030>feel <00:40:30.205>free <00:40:30.380>to <00:40:30.555>file <00:40:30.730>an <00:40:30.905>issue.

1069
00:40:32.095 --> 00:40:33.875
<00:40:32.095>We <00:40:32.234>need <00:40:32.375>to <00:40:32.515>get <00:40:32.654>caught <00:40:32.794>up <00:40:32.935>on <00:40:33.075>issues <00:40:33.214>a <00:40:33.355>little <00:40:33.495>bit.

1070
00:40:33.945 --> 00:40:36.035
<00:40:33.945>I'll <00:40:34.100>recognize <00:40:34.256>that <00:40:34.411>too. <00:40:34.567>We're <00:40:34.722>a <00:40:34.878>little <00:40:35.033>bit <00:40:35.189>behind, <00:40:35.345>uh,

1071
00:40:36.135 --> 00:40:38.515
<00:40:36.135>but, <00:40:36.262>uh, <00:40:36.389>but <00:40:36.516>we <00:40:36.644>do <00:40:36.771>want <00:40:36.898>to <00:40:37.025>hear <00:40:37.153>about <00:40:37.280>those <00:40:37.407>things <00:40:37.535>and,

1072
00:40:38.515 --> 00:40:39.795
<00:40:38.515>and <00:40:38.707>get <00:40:38.899>them <00:40:39.091>on <00:40:39.283>the <00:40:39.475>roadmap, <00:40:39.667>so.

1073
00:40:41.215 --> 00:40:43.175
<00:40:41.215>Excellent. <00:40:41.370>Well, <00:40:41.526>Eric, <00:40:41.681>thank <00:40:41.837>you <00:40:41.992>so <00:40:42.148>much. <00:40:42.303>This <00:40:42.459>was <00:40:42.615>great.

1074
00:40:43.395 --> 00:40:45.815
<00:40:43.395>Uh, <00:40:43.628>this <00:40:43.861>was <00:40:44.095>Coffee <00:40:44.328>with <00:40:44.561>Developers, <00:40:44.795>um,

1075
00:40:46.075 --> 00:40:47.735
<00:40:46.075>and <00:40:46.250>we're <00:40:46.424>gonna <00:40:46.600>release <00:40:46.774>that <00:40:46.950>in <00:40:47.125>a <00:40:47.299>few <00:40:47.475>days.

1076
00:40:47.875 --> 00:40:50.695
<00:40:47.875>Um, <00:40:48.030>and <00:40:48.186>it's <00:40:48.341>gonna <00:40:48.497>be <00:40:48.652>the <00:40:48.808>newsletter. <00:40:48.963>So <00:40:49.119>great <00:40:49.275>stuff.

1077
00:40:50.755 --> 00:40:51.855
<00:40:50.755>And <00:40:50.953>see <00:40:51.151>you <00:40:51.349>in <00:40:51.547>Blue <00:40:51.745>Sky.

1078
00:40:52.295 --> 00:40:54.425
<00:40:52.295>Awesome. <00:40:52.450>Thank <00:40:52.606>you <00:40:52.761>so <00:40:52.917>much, <00:40:53.072>Chris. <00:40:53.228>This <00:40:53.383>has <00:40:53.539>been <00:40:53.695>great.

1079
00:40:54.425 --> 00:40:55.225
<00:40:54.425>Really <00:40:54.785>appreciate <00:40:55.145>it.