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382
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<00:19:08.835>and <00:19:09.035>only <00:19:09.235>un <00:19:09.435>unicorn <00:19:09.635>outside <00:19:09.835>in <00:19:10.035>the <00:19:10.235>market.

383
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<00:19:11.575>We <00:19:11.750>have <00:19:11.925>more <00:19:12.100>diverse, <00:19:12.275>um, <00:19:12.450>workforce <00:19:12.625>and <00:19:12.800>so <00:19:12.975>on.

384
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<00:19:14.615>So <00:19:14.895>there <00:19:15.175>is <00:19:15.455>always, <00:19:15.735>you <00:19:16.015>know,

385
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<00:19:16.435>both <00:19:16.627>sides <00:19:16.819>what <00:19:17.011>you <00:19:17.203>need <00:19:17.395>to <00:19:17.587>have.

386
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<00:19:18.265>Yeah. <00:19:18.440>I <00:19:18.615>mean, <00:19:18.790>I, <00:19:18.965>I <00:19:19.140>love <00:19:19.315>what <00:19:19.490>you <00:19:19.665>said.

387
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<00:19:20.475>I <00:19:20.630>mean, <00:19:20.786>I <00:19:20.941>think <00:19:21.097>this, <00:19:21.252>I <00:19:21.408>think <00:19:21.563>it <00:19:21.719>could <00:19:21.875>be,

388
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<00:19:22.555>I <00:19:22.695>think <00:19:22.835>this <00:19:22.975>could <00:19:23.115>be <00:19:23.255>a <00:19:23.395>headline <00:19:23.535>for, <00:19:23.675>for <00:19:23.815>HR, <00:19:23.955>is

389
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<00:19:25.655>how <00:19:25.910>could <00:19:26.166>we <00:19:26.421>screen <00:19:26.677>them <00:19:26.933>in?

390
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<00:19:27.315>I <00:19:27.675>love <00:19:28.035>this <00:19:28.395>approach

391
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<00:19:28.515>because <00:19:28.655>I <00:19:28.795>mean, <00:19:28.935>honestly, <00:19:29.075>I <00:19:29.215>think <00:19:29.355>what <00:19:29.495>we <00:19:29.635>right <00:19:29.775>now <00:19:29.915>do,

392
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<00:19:31.875>and <00:19:32.050>IIII, <00:19:32.225>I <00:19:32.400>really <00:19:32.575>had <00:19:32.750>my <00:19:32.925>personal <00:19:33.100>experiences <00:19:33.275>with

393
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<00:19:36.795>that <00:19:36.950>a <00:19:37.106>couple <00:19:37.261>of <00:19:37.417>years <00:19:37.572>ago <00:19:37.728>that, <00:19:37.883>uh, <00:19:38.039>I <00:19:38.195>mean,

394
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<00:19:39.675>I <00:19:39.875>definitely <00:19:40.075>knew <00:19:40.274>that <00:19:40.475>it <00:19:40.675>was <00:19:40.875>sorted <00:19:41.075>out

395
00:19:41.755 --> 00:19:43.555
<00:19:41.755>because <00:19:42.035>of <00:19:42.315>my <00:19:42.595>birth <00:19:42.875>state <00:19:43.155>Yeah.

396
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<00:19:43.615>Or <00:19:43.848>the <00:19:44.081>age. <00:19:44.315>Uh, <00:19:44.548>and, <00:19:44.781>and, <00:19:45.015>and,

397
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<00:19:46.455>and <00:19:46.653>I <00:19:46.851>mean, <00:19:47.049>there <00:19:47.246>was <00:19:47.445>a <00:19:47.642>filter <00:19:47.841>running.

398
00:19:48.135 --> 00:19:52.435
<00:19:48.135>And <00:19:48.262>I, <00:19:48.389>do <00:19:48.516>you <00:19:48.644>see <00:19:48.771>there's <00:19:48.898>a <00:19:49.025>danger <00:19:49.153>with <00:19:49.280>using <00:19:49.407>more <00:19:49.535>AI

399
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<00:19:52.435>that <00:19:52.759>this <00:19:53.083>happens <00:19:53.407>more <00:19:53.731>often?

400
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<00:19:53.975>Or <00:19:54.204>is <00:19:54.434>it <00:19:54.663>the <00:19:54.892>opposite?

401
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<00:19:56.175>You <00:19:56.330>know, <00:19:56.486>it's <00:19:56.641>based <00:19:56.797>on <00:19:56.952>how <00:19:57.108>AI <00:19:57.263>is <00:19:57.419>trained, <00:19:57.575>right?

402
00:19:59.255 --> 00:20:02.835
<00:19:59.255>And <00:19:59.410>how <00:19:59.566>we <00:19:59.721>using <00:19:59.877>this <00:20:00.032>ai, <00:20:00.188>um, <00:20:00.343>I, <00:20:00.499>what <00:20:00.655>I

403
00:20:03.505 --> 00:20:05.115
<00:20:03.505>hate <00:20:03.785>is <00:20:04.065>this <00:20:04.345>kind <00:20:04.625>of <00:20:04.905>perspective,

404
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<00:20:05.255>and <00:20:05.565>I <00:20:05.876>really <00:20:06.186>say <00:20:06.497>hating

405
00:20:06.635 --> 00:20:11.115
<00:20:06.635>that <00:20:06.790>now <00:20:06.946>everyone <00:20:07.101>is <00:20:07.257>saying <00:20:07.412>technology <00:20:07.568>is <00:20:07.723>the <00:20:07.879>rising <00:20:08.035>star

406
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<00:20:11.215>and <00:20:11.370>will <00:20:11.526>help <00:20:11.681>us <00:20:11.837>to <00:20:11.992>be <00:20:12.148>more <00:20:12.303>fair <00:20:12.459>and <00:20:12.615>equitable.

407
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<00:20:14.635>Honestly, <00:20:14.790>if <00:20:14.946>the <00:20:15.101>technology <00:20:15.257>is <00:20:15.412>based <00:20:15.568>on <00:20:15.723>not <00:20:15.879>good <00:20:16.035>data,

408
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<00:20:19.495>I'm <00:20:19.635>not <00:20:19.774>just <00:20:19.915>seeing, <00:20:20.054>but <00:20:20.195>what, <00:20:20.334>you <00:20:20.475>know, <00:20:20.614>not <00:20:20.754>good <00:20:20.895>data,

409
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<00:20:22.095>I'm <00:20:22.375>not <00:20:22.655>seeing <00:20:22.935>it <00:20:23.215>more <00:20:23.495>bolder.

410
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<00:20:24.295>So <00:20:24.422>the <00:20:24.549>data <00:20:24.676>is <00:20:24.804>the <00:20:24.931>foundation, <00:20:25.058>is <00:20:25.185>the <00:20:25.313>data <00:20:25.440>on <00:20:25.567>old <00:20:25.695>systems,

411
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<00:20:28.415>on <00:20:28.764>old <00:20:29.115>data, <00:20:29.465>you <00:20:29.815>know,

412
00:20:30.135 --> 00:20:33.955
<00:20:30.135>it <00:20:30.290>will <00:20:30.446>nothing <00:20:30.601>change <00:20:30.757>if <00:20:30.912>the <00:20:31.068>data <00:20:31.223>has <00:20:31.379>the <00:20:31.535>input.

413
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<00:20:34.305>Okay, <00:20:34.460>we <00:20:34.616>hired <00:20:34.771>in <00:20:34.927>the <00:20:35.082>past <00:20:35.238>only <00:20:35.393>people <00:20:35.549>between <00:20:35.705>25

414
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<00:20:37.935>and <00:20:38.090>34, <00:20:38.246>it <00:20:38.401>will <00:20:38.557>again, <00:20:38.712>do <00:20:38.868>the <00:20:39.023>same <00:20:39.179>thing, <00:20:39.335>right?

415
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<00:20:42.215>So <00:20:42.448>it's <00:20:42.681>about, <00:20:42.915>um, <00:20:43.148>how <00:20:43.381>we <00:20:43.615>use

416
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<00:20:44.755>and <00:20:45.035>train <00:20:45.315>our, <00:20:45.595>um, <00:20:45.875>AI <00:20:46.155>partner.

417
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<00:20:47.865>And <00:20:48.091>in <00:20:48.318>the <00:20:48.545>end, <00:20:48.772>for <00:20:48.999>me,

418
00:20:49.385 --> 00:20:52.445
<00:20:49.385>the <00:20:49.560>decision <00:20:49.735>should <00:20:49.910>be <00:20:50.085>always <00:20:50.260>made <00:20:50.435>by <00:20:50.610>a <00:20:50.785>human.

419
00:20:52.585 --> 00:20:55.725
<00:20:52.585>And <00:20:52.701>we <00:20:52.818>see <00:20:52.935>this <00:20:53.051>in <00:20:53.168>our <00:20:53.285>own <00:20:53.401>data <00:20:53.518>as <00:20:53.635>well, <00:20:53.751>on <00:20:53.868>Indeed <00:20:53.985>side.

420
00:20:56.305 --> 00:20:58.165
<00:20:56.305>Um, <00:20:56.655>the <00:20:57.005>best <00:20:57.355>hiring <00:20:57.705>decision

421
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<00:20:58.265>and <00:20:58.420>the <00:20:58.576>best <00:20:58.731>informed <00:20:58.887>hiring <00:20:59.042>decision <00:20:59.198>is <00:20:59.353>with <00:20:59.509>both <00:20:59.665>sides

422
00:21:01.665 --> 00:21:03.885
<00:21:01.665>for <00:21:01.898>the <00:21:02.131>human <00:21:02.365>and <00:21:02.598>an <00:21:02.831>AI <00:21:03.065>perspective.

423
00:21:04.745 --> 00:21:08.935
<00:21:04.745>An <00:21:04.945>AI <00:21:05.145>in <00:21:05.344>this <00:21:05.544>case <00:21:05.745>on <00:21:05.945>transferable <00:21:06.145>skills.

424
00:21:09.395 --> 00:21:12.775
<00:21:09.395>Skills. <00:21:09.535>And <00:21:09.675>they <00:21:09.815>might <00:21:09.955>be, <00:21:10.095>not <00:21:10.235>sound <00:21:10.375>like <00:21:10.514>the <00:21:10.655>same <00:21:10.795>thing,

425
00:21:12.835 --> 00:21:14.415
<00:21:12.835>but <00:21:13.115>could <00:21:13.395>be <00:21:13.675>a <00:21:13.955>matching <00:21:14.235>thing.

426
00:21:14.805 --> 00:21:16.815
<00:21:14.805>This <00:21:14.980>is <00:21:15.155>something <00:21:15.330>where <00:21:15.505>an <00:21:15.680>AI <00:21:15.855>could <00:21:16.030>help <00:21:16.205>us

427
00:21:16.815 --> 00:21:18.895
<00:21:16.815>because <00:21:17.165>we <00:21:17.515>are <00:21:17.865>just <00:21:18.215>humans.

428
00:21:19.115 --> 00:21:21.855
<00:21:19.115>Our <00:21:19.290>brains <00:21:19.465>are <00:21:19.640>working <00:21:19.815>like <00:21:19.990>as <00:21:20.165>smart <00:21:20.340>as <00:21:20.515>possible

429
00:21:21.855 --> 00:21:23.495
<00:21:21.855>because <00:21:22.135>they <00:21:22.415>get <00:21:22.695>so <00:21:22.975>many <00:21:23.255>data.

430
00:21:24.575 --> 00:21:26.495
<00:21:24.575>Why <00:21:24.775>we <00:21:24.975>should <00:21:25.175>know <00:21:25.375>all <00:21:25.575>the <00:21:25.775>time, <00:21:25.975>oh,

431
00:21:26.495 --> 00:21:29.295
<00:21:26.495>this <00:21:26.695>skill <00:21:26.895>has <00:21:27.094>these <00:21:27.294>transferal <00:21:27.495>skills <00:21:27.695>behind <00:21:27.895>that.

432
00:21:30.005 --> 00:21:31.985
<00:21:30.005>Do <00:21:30.160>I <00:21:30.316>really <00:21:30.471>know <00:21:30.627>We <00:21:30.782>know <00:21:30.938>this <00:21:31.093>all <00:21:31.249>the <00:21:31.405>time.

433
00:21:32.165 --> 00:21:34.945
<00:21:32.165>Do <00:21:32.320>I <00:21:32.476>really <00:21:32.631>don't <00:21:32.787>do <00:21:32.942>a <00:21:33.098>mistake? <00:21:33.253>I'm <00:21:33.409>a <00:21:33.565>human.

434
00:21:35.265 --> 00:21:36.985
<00:21:35.265>I <00:21:35.498>do <00:21:35.731>a <00:21:35.965>mistake <00:21:36.198>every <00:21:36.431>minute, <00:21:36.665>maybe.

435
00:21:37.605 --> 00:21:40.065
<00:21:37.605>And <00:21:37.805>this <00:21:38.005>is <00:21:38.205>why <00:21:38.405>this <00:21:38.605>matching <00:21:38.805>this <00:21:39.005>AI

436
00:21:40.065 --> 00:21:41.705
<00:21:40.065>opportunity <00:21:40.415>tech <00:21:40.765>can <00:21:41.115>help <00:21:41.465>us.

437
00:21:42.325 --> 00:21:45.145
<00:21:42.325>But <00:21:42.500>this <00:21:42.675>means <00:21:42.850>also <00:21:43.025>to <00:21:43.200>shift <00:21:43.375>towards <00:21:43.550>this <00:21:43.725>perspective,

438
00:21:45.925 --> 00:21:47.545
<00:21:45.925>how <00:21:46.205>we <00:21:46.485>can <00:21:46.764>train <00:21:47.044>our <00:21:47.325>data

439
00:21:48.205 --> 00:21:50.465
<00:21:48.205>and <00:21:48.485>our <00:21:48.764>requirements <00:21:49.044>in <00:21:49.324>this <00:21:49.605>direction

440
00:21:50.465 --> 00:21:52.545
<00:21:50.465>that <00:21:50.745>we <00:21:51.024>rather <00:21:51.304>filter <00:21:51.584>people <00:21:51.865>in

441
00:21:52.565 --> 00:21:55.905
<00:21:52.565>or <00:21:52.740>screen <00:21:52.915>them <00:21:53.090>in <00:21:53.265>instead <00:21:53.440>screening <00:21:53.615>them <00:21:53.790>out <00:21:53.965>first.

442
00:21:56.505 --> 00:21:58.405
<00:21:56.505>And <00:21:56.738>then <00:21:56.971>it's, <00:21:57.205>it's <00:21:57.438>really <00:21:57.671>about <00:21:57.905>fairness.

443
00:21:58.625 --> 00:22:03.195
<00:21:58.625>And <00:21:58.800>in <00:21:58.975>the <00:21:59.150>US <00:21:59.325>we <00:21:59.500>have, <00:21:59.675>um, <00:21:59.850>a <00:22:00.025>term

444
00:22:03.195 --> 00:22:04.355
<00:22:03.195>that <00:22:03.543>I <00:22:03.891>really <00:22:04.239>like.

445
00:22:04.575 --> 00:22:09.505
<00:22:04.575>Uh, <00:22:04.750>we <00:22:04.925>are <00:22:05.100>searching <00:22:05.275>for <00:22:05.450>stars. <00:22:05.625>Mm-hmm. <00:22:05.800>Love <00:22:05.975>it.

446
00:22:09.805 --> 00:22:13.585
<00:22:09.805>And <00:22:10.038>stars <00:22:10.271>means <00:22:10.505>skill <00:22:10.738>through <00:22:10.971>alternative <00:22:11.205>roots.

447
00:22:14.085 --> 00:22:16.185
<00:22:14.085>Mm-hmm. <00:22:15.485>Cool.

448
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<00:22:16.205>One, <00:22:16.360>and, <00:22:16.516>you <00:22:16.671>know, <00:22:16.827>having <00:22:16.982>this <00:22:17.138>in <00:22:17.293>mind, <00:22:17.449>I'm <00:22:17.605>searching

449
00:22:19.285 --> 00:22:20.625
<00:22:19.285>for <00:22:19.687>my <00:22:20.089>new <00:22:20.491>star.

450
00:22:21.095 --> 00:22:24.705
<00:22:21.095>Yeah. <00:22:21.295>Having <00:22:21.495>in <00:22:21.695>mind <00:22:21.895>skills <00:22:22.095>through <00:22:22.295>alternative <00:22:22.495>routes

451
00:22:25.335 --> 00:22:29.545
<00:22:25.335>that <00:22:25.490>really <00:22:25.646>shift <00:22:25.801>also <00:22:25.957>my <00:22:26.112>thought <00:22:26.268>processes, <00:22:26.423>how <00:22:26.579>I <00:22:26.735>screen,

452
00:22:29.845 --> 00:22:31.665
<00:22:29.845>how <00:22:30.195>I <00:22:30.545>use <00:22:30.895>traditional <00:22:31.245>filters.

453
00:22:31.965 --> 00:22:34.465
<00:22:31.965>Mm-hmm. <00:22:32.139>And <00:22:32.314>then <00:22:32.490>we <00:22:32.665>go <00:22:32.840>to <00:22:33.014>a <00:22:33.189>more <00:22:33.365>equitable,

454
00:22:34.465 --> 00:22:35.865
<00:22:34.465>but <00:22:34.780>also <00:22:35.095>more <00:22:35.410>inclusive <00:22:35.725>pathway

455
00:22:35.975 --> 00:22:37.185
<00:22:35.975>from <00:22:36.338>my <00:22:36.701>perspective. <00:22:37.063>Mm-hmm.

456
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<00:22:37.765>How, <00:22:37.940>how, <00:22:38.115>how <00:22:38.290>could <00:22:38.465>people <00:22:38.640>in <00:22:38.815>HR <00:22:38.990>use <00:22:39.165>that?

457
00:22:40.985 --> 00:22:43.345
<00:22:40.985>I <00:22:41.125>mean, <00:22:41.264>if <00:22:41.405>you <00:22:41.544>start, <00:22:41.685>I <00:22:41.824>mean, <00:22:41.965>it, <00:22:42.104>it <00:22:42.245>sounds <00:22:42.385>great,

458
00:22:43.725 --> 00:22:46.825
<00:22:43.725>but <00:22:43.865>what <00:22:44.004>is <00:22:44.145>then <00:22:44.284>the <00:22:44.425>important <00:22:44.564>first <00:22:44.705>step <00:22:44.844>if <00:22:44.985>you <00:22:45.125>start

459
00:22:47.175 --> 00:22:48.905
<00:22:47.175>looking <00:22:47.524>for <00:22:47.875>your <00:22:48.225>next <00:22:48.575>star?

460
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<00:22:49.445>How, <00:22:49.600>how, <00:22:49.756>how <00:22:49.911>do <00:22:50.067>you <00:22:50.222>just <00:22:50.378>bring <00:22:50.533>that <00:22:50.689>in <00:22:50.845>practice?

461
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<00:22:52.305>Because <00:22:52.527>I <00:22:52.749>mean, <00:22:52.971>it, <00:22:53.193>it <00:22:53.415>sounds <00:22:53.637>great

462
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<00:22:53.845>and <00:22:53.972>it, <00:22:54.099>it <00:22:54.226>is <00:22:54.354>definitely <00:22:54.481>this, <00:22:54.608>but <00:22:54.735>if <00:22:54.863>you've <00:22:54.990>never <00:22:55.117>done <00:22:55.245>it

463
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<00:22:57.585>before, <00:22:57.935>it's <00:22:58.285>probably <00:22:58.635>hard <00:22:58.985>to,

464
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<00:23:00.445>to <00:23:00.645>bring <00:23:00.845>the <00:23:01.044>switch <00:23:01.245>into <00:23:01.445>the <00:23:01.645>new <00:23:01.845>position

465
00:23:02.745 --> 00:23:05.065
<00:23:02.745>because <00:23:02.945>we, <00:23:03.145>we <00:23:03.344>are <00:23:03.544>all <00:23:03.745>driven <00:23:03.945>by <00:23:04.145>mindsets.

466
00:23:05.065 --> 00:23:08.545
<00:23:05.065>We <00:23:05.220>are <00:23:05.376>all <00:23:05.531>controlled <00:23:05.687>by <00:23:05.842>our <00:23:05.998>by, <00:23:06.153>by <00:23:06.309>our <00:23:06.465>behaviors.

467
00:23:08.605 --> 00:23:11.225
<00:23:08.605>But <00:23:08.732>how <00:23:08.859>could, <00:23:08.986>you <00:23:09.114>could <00:23:09.241>switch <00:23:09.368>probably <00:23:09.495>the <00:23:09.623>mi <00:23:09.750>that <00:23:09.877>is, <00:23:10.005>uh,

468
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<00:23:11.645>to, <00:23:11.937>to <00:23:12.230>that <00:23:12.522>new <00:23:12.815>approach.

469
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<00:23:13.095>What, <00:23:13.250>what <00:23:13.406>do <00:23:13.561>you <00:23:13.717>think <00:23:13.872>is <00:23:14.028>the <00:23:14.183>most <00:23:14.339>important <00:23:14.495>thing?

470
00:23:15.725 --> 00:23:17.825
<00:23:15.725>If <00:23:15.899>you <00:23:16.074>want <00:23:16.250>to <00:23:16.425>look <00:23:16.600>for <00:23:16.774>your <00:23:16.949>new <00:23:17.125>star,

471
00:23:18.245 --> 00:23:21.705
<00:23:18.245>You <00:23:18.372>know, <00:23:18.499>first <00:23:18.626>of <00:23:18.754>all, <00:23:18.881>you <00:23:19.008>need <00:23:19.135>to <00:23:19.263>know <00:23:19.390>what <00:23:19.517>you <00:23:19.645>really

472
00:23:22.215 --> 00:23:25.765
<00:23:22.215>need <00:23:22.389>for <00:23:22.564>your <00:23:22.740>job <00:23:22.915>and <00:23:23.090>not <00:23:23.264>for <00:23:23.439>the <00:23:23.615>job.

473
00:23:25.765 --> 00:23:28.765
<00:23:25.765>What <00:23:25.998>was, <00:23:26.231>uh, <00:23:26.465>created <00:23:26.698>five <00:23:26.931>years <00:23:27.165>ago

474
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<00:23:29.025>and <00:23:29.225>has, <00:23:29.425>might <00:23:29.625>be <00:23:29.825>this <00:23:30.025>job <00:23:30.225>tied <00:23:30.425>in

475
00:23:30.925 --> 00:23:32.125
<00:23:30.925>this <00:23:31.195>requirements <00:23:31.465>in <00:23:31.735>the <00:23:32.005>past.

476
00:23:32.865 --> 00:23:35.765
<00:23:32.865>You <00:23:33.020>need <00:23:33.176>to <00:23:33.331>have <00:23:33.487>you, <00:23:33.642>what <00:23:33.798>is <00:23:33.953>happening <00:23:34.109>right <00:23:34.265>now.

477
00:23:36.555 --> 00:23:40.095
<00:23:36.555>And <00:23:36.695>then <00:23:36.835>you <00:23:36.975>have <00:23:37.115>to <00:23:37.255>search <00:23:37.395>also <00:23:37.535>for <00:23:37.675>the, <00:23:37.815>uh, <00:23:37.955>some,

478
00:23:40.795 --> 00:23:42.855
<00:23:40.795>um, <00:23:42.195>insights.

479
00:23:43.125 --> 00:23:44.695
<00:23:43.125>What, <00:23:43.405>how, <00:23:43.685>how <00:23:43.965>it <00:23:44.245>would <00:23:44.525>change,

480
00:23:45.185 --> 00:23:46.525
<00:23:45.185>how <00:23:45.486>our <00:23:45.788>business <00:23:46.089>will <00:23:46.391>change,

481
00:23:46.585 --> 00:23:49.645
<00:23:46.585>and <00:23:46.740>also <00:23:46.896>what <00:23:47.051>means <00:23:47.207>this <00:23:47.362>job <00:23:47.518>to <00:23:47.673>be <00:23:47.829>future <00:23:47.985>ready.

482
00:23:50.505 --> 00:23:53.565
<00:23:50.505>And <00:23:50.660>then <00:23:50.816>list <00:23:50.971>the <00:23:51.127>skills <00:23:51.282>that <00:23:51.438>you <00:23:51.593>are <00:23:51.749>really <00:23:51.905>need,

483
00:23:54.065 --> 00:23:58.005
<00:23:54.065>really <00:23:54.265>need, <00:23:54.465>not <00:23:54.665>which <00:23:54.865>skills <00:23:55.065>they <00:23:55.265>would <00:23:55.465>have

484
00:23:58.185 --> 00:24:00.845
<00:23:58.185>by <00:23:58.360>probably <00:23:58.534>having <00:23:58.710>everything <00:23:58.885>in <00:23:59.060>their <00:23:59.235>own, <00:23:59.409>just <00:23:59.585>going

485
00:24:01.065 --> 00:24:02.285
<00:24:01.065>by <00:24:01.431>skill, <00:24:01.797>by <00:24:02.163>skill.

486
00:24:02.345 --> 00:24:03.605
<00:24:02.345>And <00:24:02.571>have <00:24:02.798>a <00:24:03.025>look <00:24:03.252>onto <00:24:03.479>it.

487
00:24:04.035 --> 00:24:06.005
<00:24:04.035>What <00:24:04.315>kind <00:24:04.595>of <00:24:04.875>skills <00:24:05.155>are <00:24:05.435>trainable

488
00:24:07.725 --> 00:24:10.785
<00:24:07.725>and <00:24:07.880>which <00:24:08.036>are <00:24:08.191>skills <00:24:08.347>that <00:24:08.502>definitely <00:24:08.658>needs <00:24:08.813>to <00:24:08.969>be <00:24:09.125>there

489
00:24:10.785 --> 00:24:11.825
<00:24:10.785>as <00:24:11.097>a <00:24:11.409>grand <00:24:11.721>foundation.

490
00:24:11.925 --> 00:24:13.305
<00:24:11.925>So, <00:24:12.173>because <00:24:12.421>I <00:24:12.670>also <00:24:12.918>don't <00:24:13.167>want

491
00:24:13.305 --> 00:24:16.345
<00:24:13.305>to <00:24:13.432>say <00:24:13.559>a <00:24:13.686>star <00:24:13.814>hiring <00:24:13.941>means <00:24:14.068>just, <00:24:14.195>uh, <00:24:14.323>you <00:24:14.450>know, <00:24:14.577>a <00:24:14.705>higher

492
00:24:16.485 --> 00:24:19.025
<00:24:16.485>for <00:24:16.640>attitude <00:24:16.796>because <00:24:16.951>this <00:24:17.107>is <00:24:17.262>also <00:24:17.418>not <00:24:17.573>the <00:24:17.729>right <00:24:17.885>perspective.

493
00:24:19.095 --> 00:24:21.065
<00:24:19.095>This <00:24:19.328>is <00:24:19.561>not <00:24:19.795>the <00:24:20.028>right <00:24:20.261>thing. <00:24:20.495>Uh,

494
00:24:21.065 --> 00:24:23.505
<00:24:21.065>but <00:24:21.265>if <00:24:21.465>you <00:24:21.665>start <00:24:21.865>with <00:24:22.065>this <00:24:22.265>one, <00:24:22.465>um,

495
00:24:23.695 --> 00:24:25.225
<00:24:23.695>then <00:24:24.039>you <00:24:24.383>have <00:24:24.727>a <00:24:25.072>foundation.

496
00:24:25.535 --> 00:24:27.505
<00:24:25.535>What <00:24:25.710>is <00:24:25.885>really <00:24:26.060>the <00:24:26.235>looks <00:24:26.410>a <00:24:26.585>job <00:24:26.760>look <00:24:26.935>like?

497
00:24:27.685 --> 00:24:31.625
<00:24:27.685>And <00:24:27.825>you <00:24:27.965>also <00:24:28.105>can, <00:24:28.245>um, <00:24:28.385>look <00:24:28.524>for <00:24:28.665>different <00:24:28.804>kind <00:24:28.945>of <00:24:29.085>skills

498
00:24:32.285 --> 00:24:34.465
<00:24:32.285>and <00:24:32.751>then <00:24:33.218>use <00:24:33.685>technology

499
00:24:34.845 --> 00:24:38.345
<00:24:34.845>or <00:24:35.045>use <00:24:35.245>data <00:24:35.445>from, <00:24:35.645>um, <00:24:35.845>different <00:24:36.045>kind <00:24:36.245>of,

500
00:24:38.345 --> 00:24:39.705
<00:24:38.345>or <00:24:38.589>for <00:24:38.834>other <00:24:39.079>vendors <00:24:39.324>as <00:24:39.569>well.

501
00:24:39.705 --> 00:24:43.705
<00:24:39.705>If <00:24:39.845>you <00:24:39.985>don't <00:24:40.125>have <00:24:40.264>your <00:24:40.405>own <00:24:40.544>data, <00:24:40.685>which <00:24:40.824>skills <00:24:40.965>are <00:24:41.105>connected

502
00:24:43.705 --> 00:24:46.465
<00:24:43.705>to <00:24:43.905>that <00:24:44.105>and <00:24:44.304>make <00:24:44.504>sure <00:24:44.705>that <00:24:44.905>you <00:24:45.105>understand.

503
00:24:46.845 --> 00:24:50.105
<00:24:46.845>And <00:24:46.985>I <00:24:47.125>mean <00:24:47.265>by <00:24:47.405>that, <00:24:47.545>doing <00:24:47.685>the <00:24:47.825>best <00:24:47.965>informed <00:24:48.105>decision, <00:24:48.245>right?

504
00:24:50.725 --> 00:24:53.745
<00:24:50.725>To <00:24:50.880>understand <00:24:51.036>who <00:24:51.191>might <00:24:51.347>be <00:24:51.502>out <00:24:51.658>there <00:24:51.813>in <00:24:51.969>the <00:24:52.125>market

505
00:24:53.775 --> 00:24:55.385
<00:24:53.775>that <00:24:54.008>I <00:24:54.241>have <00:24:54.475>overlooked <00:24:54.708>in <00:24:54.941>the <00:24:55.175>past

506
00:24:55.775 --> 00:24:58.585
<00:24:55.775>because <00:24:55.930>there <00:24:56.086>was <00:24:56.241>working <00:24:56.397>in <00:24:56.552>a <00:24:56.708>different <00:24:56.863>kind <00:24:57.019>of <00:24:57.175>industry

507
00:24:58.925 --> 00:25:00.105
<00:24:58.925>or <00:24:59.279>something <00:24:59.633>like <00:24:59.987>this.

508
00:25:00.845 --> 00:25:03.545
<00:25:00.845>And <00:25:01.045>make <00:25:01.245>yourself <00:25:01.445>aware <00:25:01.645>of <00:25:01.845>what <00:25:02.045>is <00:25:02.245>available

509
00:25:03.615 --> 00:25:05.745
<00:25:03.615>outside <00:25:03.848>Also <00:25:04.081>from <00:25:04.315>this <00:25:04.548>kind <00:25:04.781>of <00:25:05.015>perspective,

510
00:25:06.725 --> 00:25:10.665
<00:25:06.725>and <00:25:06.841>why <00:25:06.958>I <00:25:07.074>really <00:25:07.191>said <00:25:07.308>it <00:25:07.425>out <00:25:07.541>loud <00:25:07.658>is <00:25:07.774>I <00:25:07.891>think <00:25:08.008>we <00:25:08.125>have

511
00:25:10.665 --> 00:25:13.785
<00:25:10.665>to <00:25:10.820>work <00:25:10.976>also <00:25:11.131>on <00:25:11.287>our <00:25:11.442>own <00:25:11.598>mindset <00:25:11.753>first <00:25:11.909>as <00:25:12.065>recruiters

512
00:25:15.285 --> 00:25:18.145
<00:25:15.285>before <00:25:15.485>we <00:25:15.685>want <00:25:15.885>to <00:25:16.085>teach <00:25:16.285>our <00:25:16.485>hiring <00:25:16.685>manager

513
00:25:18.325 --> 00:25:20.665
<00:25:18.325>and <00:25:18.525>everyone <00:25:18.725>else <00:25:18.925>around <00:25:19.125>us <00:25:19.325>to <00:25:19.525>do <00:25:19.725>so.

514
00:25:21.245 --> 00:25:23.105
<00:25:21.245>So <00:25:21.478>if <00:25:21.711>we <00:25:21.945>have <00:25:22.178>a <00:25:22.411>better <00:25:22.645>understanding

515
00:25:23.215 --> 00:25:27.385
<00:25:23.215>what <00:25:23.415>skills <00:25:23.615>really <00:25:23.814>means, <00:25:24.014>what <00:25:24.215>skills <00:25:24.415>are <00:25:24.615>transferable,

516
00:25:27.415 --> 00:25:28.705
<00:25:27.415>what <00:25:27.705>is <00:25:27.995>the <00:25:28.285>skill <00:25:28.576>foundation

517
00:25:28.725 --> 00:25:31.985
<00:25:28.725>and <00:25:28.865>what <00:25:29.004>we <00:25:29.145>are <00:25:29.284>looking <00:25:29.425>for, <00:25:29.564>we <00:25:29.705>got <00:25:29.844>this <00:25:29.985>star <00:25:30.125>appealing.

518
00:25:32.485 --> 00:25:37.385
<00:25:32.485>And <00:25:32.659>then <00:25:32.834>just <00:25:33.010>start <00:25:33.185>please <00:25:33.360>instead <00:25:33.534>of, <00:25:33.709>um, <00:25:33.885>um,

519
00:25:37.535 --> 00:25:39.505
<00:25:37.535>just <00:25:37.815>waiting <00:25:38.095>for <00:25:38.375>the <00:25:38.655>best <00:25:38.935>results.

520
00:25:40.005 --> 00:25:42.345
<00:25:40.005>And <00:25:40.145>if <00:25:40.285>someone <00:25:40.425>comes <00:25:40.565>and <00:25:40.705>asks <00:25:40.845>why <00:25:40.985>I <00:25:41.125>should <00:25:41.265>do <00:25:41.405>so

521
00:25:42.375 --> 00:25:45.745
<00:25:42.375>because <00:25:42.530>Yeah, <00:25:42.686>because <00:25:42.841>it <00:25:42.997>creates <00:25:43.152>better <00:25:43.308>value <00:25:43.463>for <00:25:43.619>you <00:25:43.775>all.

522
00:25:45.885 --> 00:25:50.345
<00:25:45.885>Um, <00:25:46.012>get <00:25:46.139>a <00:25:46.266>better <00:25:46.394>ROI <00:25:46.521>it's <00:25:46.648>got <00:25:46.775>a <00:25:46.903>better <00:25:47.030>quality <00:25:47.157>of <00:25:47.285>candidates

523
00:25:50.695 --> 00:25:52.545
<00:25:50.695>because <00:25:50.928>you've <00:25:51.161>got <00:25:51.395>a <00:25:51.628>variety <00:25:51.861>of <00:25:52.095>them.

524
00:25:54.305 --> 00:25:57.155
<00:25:54.305>What <00:25:54.480>does <00:25:54.655>it <00:25:54.830>mean <00:25:55.005>for, <00:25:55.180>I <00:25:55.355>mean, <00:25:55.530>from <00:25:55.705>the,

525
00:25:57.155 --> 00:25:59.955
<00:25:57.155>from <00:25:57.355>the <00:25:57.555>perspective <00:25:57.754>of <00:25:57.955>being <00:25:58.155>brave <00:25:58.355>as <00:25:58.555>hr,

526
00:25:59.955 --> 00:26:02.795
<00:25:59.955>because <00:26:00.095>I <00:26:00.235>think <00:26:00.375>it <00:26:00.514>needs <00:26:00.655>some <00:26:00.794>braveness <00:26:00.935>to <00:26:01.074>go <00:26:01.215>new <00:26:01.355>passes

527
00:26:02.975 --> 00:26:04.235
<00:26:02.975>and <00:26:03.258>try <00:26:03.542>out <00:26:03.825>new <00:26:04.109>things.

528
00:26:04.935 --> 00:26:08.555
<00:26:04.935>And <00:26:05.051>what <00:26:05.168>does <00:26:05.284>it <00:26:05.401>mean <00:26:05.518>also <00:26:05.635>in <00:26:05.751>the, <00:26:05.868>in, <00:26:05.985>in <00:26:06.101>the <00:26:06.218>aspect <00:26:06.335>of

529
00:26:09.475 --> 00:26:12.555
<00:26:09.475>reaching <00:26:09.630>out <00:26:09.786>to, <00:26:09.941>to, <00:26:10.097>I <00:26:10.252>always <00:26:10.408>call <00:26:10.563>them <00:26:10.719>hidden <00:26:10.875>talents

530
00:26:12.555 --> 00:26:14.235
<00:26:12.555>because <00:26:12.788>I <00:26:13.021>mean, <00:26:13.255>there's <00:26:13.488>some <00:26:13.721>kind <00:26:13.955>of,

531
00:26:14.235 --> 00:26:16.995
<00:26:14.235>especially <00:26:14.435>in <00:26:14.635>the <00:26:14.834>developer <00:26:15.034>environment, <00:26:15.235>we <00:26:15.435>see <00:26:15.635>that,

532
00:26:17.335 --> 00:26:19.995
<00:26:17.335>and <00:26:17.510>you <00:26:17.685>mentioned <00:26:17.860>it <00:26:18.035>already, <00:26:18.210>uh, <00:26:18.385>some <00:26:18.560>minutes <00:26:18.735>ago.

533
00:26:20.835 --> 00:26:22.955
<00:26:20.835>I <00:26:21.010>think <00:26:21.185>most <00:26:21.360>of <00:26:21.535>the <00:26:21.710>developers <00:26:21.885>that <00:26:22.060>I <00:26:22.235>know,

534
00:26:22.955 --> 00:26:24.195
<00:26:22.955>they're <00:26:23.327>really <00:26:23.698>good <00:26:24.071>ones.

535
00:26:24.295 --> 00:26:27.235
<00:26:24.295>And <00:26:24.450>the <00:26:24.606>people <00:26:24.761>are <00:26:24.917>on <00:26:25.072>our <00:26:25.228>state <00:26:25.383>down <00:26:25.539>our <00:26:25.695>stages

536
00:26:27.375 --> 00:26:28.955
<00:26:27.375>and <00:26:27.725>talking <00:26:28.075>about <00:26:28.425>their <00:26:28.775>experience

537
00:26:28.955 --> 00:26:30.155
<00:26:28.955>and <00:26:29.225>sharing <00:26:29.495>just <00:26:29.764>the <00:26:30.034>insights

538
00:26:30.155 --> 00:26:32.595
<00:26:30.155>and <00:26:30.355>thoughts <00:26:30.555>on, <00:26:30.754>on <00:26:30.955>our <00:26:31.155>stages, <00:26:31.355>a <00:26:31.555>lot

539
00:26:32.595 --> 00:26:36.435
<00:26:32.595>of <00:26:32.770>them <00:26:32.945>are <00:26:33.120>not <00:26:33.295>coming <00:26:33.470>from <00:26:33.645>traditional <00:26:33.820>career <00:26:33.995>process.

540
00:26:36.715 --> 00:26:38.915
<00:26:36.715>I <00:26:36.889>mean, <00:26:37.064>they <00:26:37.240>have, <00:26:37.415>they, <00:26:37.590>they <00:26:37.764>are <00:26:37.939>auto <00:26:38.115>deduct.

541
00:26:39.025 --> 00:26:41.195
<00:26:39.025>They <00:26:39.305>learned <00:26:39.585>themselves <00:26:39.865>how <00:26:40.145>to <00:26:40.425>program

542
00:26:41.225 --> 00:26:43.685
<00:26:41.225>because <00:26:41.458>they <00:26:41.691>way <00:26:41.925>to <00:26:42.158>it, <00:26:42.391>uh, <00:26:42.625>they,

543
00:26:43.685 --> 00:26:45.925
<00:26:43.685>they <00:26:43.918>were <00:26:44.151>really <00:26:44.385>passionate <00:26:44.618>about <00:26:44.851>learning <00:26:45.085>it

544
00:26:45.945 --> 00:26:48.645
<00:26:45.945>for <00:26:46.145>themselves, <00:26:46.345>but <00:26:46.544>it's <00:26:46.745>not <00:26:46.945>a <00:26:47.145>university <00:26:47.345>degree

545
00:26:49.075 --> 00:26:50.205
<00:26:49.075>that <00:26:49.414>brought <00:26:49.753>them <00:26:50.091>there.

546
00:26:50.875 --> 00:26:53.845
<00:26:50.875>It's <00:26:51.050>more <00:26:51.225>having <00:26:51.400>fun <00:26:51.575>with <00:26:51.750>it <00:26:51.925>and, <00:26:52.100>and, <00:26:52.275>and,

547
00:26:53.865 --> 00:26:55.325
<00:26:53.865>and, <00:26:54.193>and, <00:26:54.522>and <00:26:54.850>loving <00:26:55.179>it.

548
00:26:55.425 --> 00:26:57.245
<00:26:55.425>So, <00:26:56.125>but <00:26:56.825>then

549
00:26:58.005 --> 00:27:01.205
<00:26:58.005>I <00:26:58.160>think <00:26:58.316>on <00:26:58.471>normal <00:26:58.627>routines <00:26:58.782>would <00:26:58.938>definitely <00:26:59.093>filter <00:26:59.249>them <00:26:59.405>out

550
00:27:01.505 --> 00:27:03.165
<00:27:01.505>or <00:27:01.855>screen <00:27:02.205>them <00:27:02.555>out <00:27:02.905>immediately.

551
00:27:04.115 --> 00:27:06.325
<00:27:04.115>What <00:27:04.315>does <00:27:04.515>it <00:27:04.715>mean <00:27:04.915>in, <00:27:05.115>in <00:27:05.315>the <00:27:05.515>aspect

552
00:27:06.325 --> 00:27:10.245
<00:27:06.325>of <00:27:06.480>trying <00:27:06.636>out <00:27:06.791>new <00:27:06.947>user <00:27:07.102>groups, <00:27:07.258>trying <00:27:07.413>out <00:27:07.569>new <00:27:07.725>forums,

553
00:27:10.425 --> 00:27:15.325
<00:27:10.425>new <00:27:10.625>platforms, <00:27:10.825>and <00:27:11.024>probably <00:27:11.225>also <00:27:11.425>going <00:27:11.625>into <00:27:11.825>the,

554
00:27:15.395 --> 00:27:18.285
<00:27:15.395>into, <00:27:15.628>into <00:27:15.861>the <00:27:16.095>land <00:27:16.328>of <00:27:16.561>hidden <00:27:16.795>talents.

555
00:27:20.055 --> 00:27:23.585
<00:27:20.055>Yeah. <00:27:20.210>I <00:27:20.366>always <00:27:20.521>call <00:27:20.677>them <00:27:20.832>un <00:27:20.988>top <00:27:21.143>talents, <00:27:21.299>um <00:27:21.455>mm-hmm.

556
00:27:23.725 --> 00:27:25.505
<00:27:23.725>And <00:27:23.958>I <00:27:24.191>really <00:27:24.425>mean <00:27:24.658>this <00:27:24.891>by <00:27:25.125>heart.

557
00:27:25.685 --> 00:27:28.265
<00:27:25.685>Um, <00:27:25.918>the <00:27:26.151>talent <00:27:26.385>is <00:27:26.618>a, <00:27:26.851>you <00:27:27.085>know,

558
00:27:28.415 --> 00:27:30.305
<00:27:28.415>it's <00:27:28.764>universal <00:27:29.115>opportunity <00:27:29.465>is <00:27:29.815>not.

559
00:27:30.655 --> 00:27:31.875
<00:27:30.655>Mm-hmm. <00:27:31.753>Mm-hmm.

560
00:27:31.955 --> 00:27:34.875
<00:27:31.955>And <00:27:32.110>opportunity <00:27:32.266>is <00:27:32.421>not <00:27:32.577>really <00:27:32.732>means <00:27:32.888>we <00:27:33.043>screen <00:27:33.199>them <00:27:33.355>out.

561
00:27:34.875 --> 00:27:36.515
<00:27:34.875>They <00:27:35.108>was <00:27:35.341>not <00:27:35.575>coming <00:27:35.808>into <00:27:36.041>our <00:27:36.275>mindset.

562
00:27:36.625 --> 00:27:38.395
<00:27:36.625>They <00:27:36.825>are <00:27:37.025>not <00:27:37.225>the <00:27:37.425>fit <00:27:37.625>for <00:27:37.825>hiring <00:27:38.025>measure.

563
00:27:38.585 --> 00:27:41.875
<00:27:38.585>This <00:27:38.712>is <00:27:38.839>why <00:27:38.966>they <00:27:39.094>are <00:27:39.221>then <00:27:39.348>C <00:27:39.475>candidates <00:27:39.603>and <00:27:39.730>so <00:27:39.857>on. <00:27:39.985>Mm-hmm.

564
00:27:41.955 --> 00:27:44.635
<00:27:41.955>And <00:27:42.421>um, <00:27:42.888>it's <00:27:43.355>now

565
00:27:45.875 --> 00:27:47.215
<00:27:45.875>we <00:27:46.116>know <00:27:46.357>what <00:27:46.598>will <00:27:46.839>happen, <00:27:47.081>right?

566
00:27:47.555 --> 00:27:49.575
<00:27:47.555>Um, <00:27:47.835>we <00:27:48.115>have <00:27:48.395>less <00:27:48.675>people <00:27:48.955>available.

567
00:27:49.955 --> 00:27:52.855
<00:27:49.955>The <00:27:50.188>talent <00:27:50.421>shortages <00:27:50.655>there, <00:27:50.888>people <00:27:51.121>are <00:27:51.355>screaming

568
00:27:52.855 --> 00:27:54.695
<00:27:52.855>that <00:27:53.030>we <00:27:53.205>don't, <00:27:53.380>that <00:27:53.555>we <00:27:53.730>need <00:27:53.905>too <00:27:54.080>much <00:27:54.255>time

569
00:27:54.715 --> 00:27:56.135
<00:27:54.715>to <00:27:55.034>find <00:27:55.354>the <00:27:55.673>right <00:27:55.993>talents.

570
00:27:56.595 --> 00:27:58.775
<00:27:56.595>So <00:27:56.795>then <00:27:56.995>go <00:27:57.195>for <00:27:57.395>pilots, <00:27:57.595>go <00:27:57.795>for <00:27:57.995>tasks,

571
00:27:59.155 --> 00:28:01.615
<00:27:59.155>do <00:27:59.310>a <00:27:59.466>break <00:27:59.621>on <00:27:59.777>bold <00:27:59.932>decision <00:28:00.088>and <00:28:00.243>go <00:28:00.399>for <00:28:00.555>it.

572
00:28:02.715 --> 00:28:05.695
<00:28:02.715>You <00:28:02.842>know? <00:28:02.969>And, <00:28:03.096>uh, <00:28:03.224>but <00:28:03.351>this <00:28:03.478>means <00:28:03.605>if <00:28:03.733>you <00:28:03.860>go <00:28:03.987>for <00:28:04.115>it,

573
00:28:05.795 --> 00:28:08.735
<00:28:05.795>and <00:28:05.970>this <00:28:06.145>is <00:28:06.320>not <00:28:06.495>a <00:28:06.670>hundred <00:28:06.845>percent <00:28:07.020>fixed <00:28:07.195>candidate,

574
00:28:08.765 --> 00:28:11.095
<00:28:08.765>meaning <00:28:09.231>brings <00:28:09.698>everything <00:28:10.165>already

575
00:28:13.075 --> 00:28:14.335
<00:28:13.075>create <00:28:13.642>an <00:28:14.209>onboarding

576
00:28:14.355 --> 00:28:15.575
<00:28:14.355>and <00:28:14.904>training <00:28:15.453>platform

577
00:28:15.575 --> 00:28:17.615
<00:28:15.575>where <00:28:15.808>they <00:28:16.041>really <00:28:16.275>can <00:28:16.508>grow <00:28:16.741>by <00:28:16.975>themself.

578
00:28:18.235 --> 00:28:19.415
<00:28:18.235>And <00:28:18.447>all <00:28:18.659>these <00:28:18.872>kind <00:28:19.084>of <00:28:19.297>people

579
00:28:19.415 --> 00:28:22.655
<00:28:19.415>that <00:28:19.615>you <00:28:19.815>described <00:28:20.014>are <00:28:20.215>always <00:28:20.415>passionate <00:28:20.615>people <00:28:20.815>about

580
00:28:22.935 --> 00:28:25.055
<00:28:22.935>learning <00:28:23.401>about <00:28:23.868>developing <00:28:24.335>themself.

581
00:28:25.405 --> 00:28:28.175
<00:28:25.405>They <00:28:25.532>are <00:28:25.659>curious, <00:28:25.786>they <00:28:25.914>want <00:28:26.041>to <00:28:26.168>do, <00:28:26.295>they <00:28:26.423>want <00:28:26.550>to <00:28:26.677>do <00:28:26.805>this.

582
00:28:28.875 --> 00:28:32.455
<00:28:28.875>So <00:28:29.015>if <00:28:29.155>we <00:28:29.295>combine <00:28:29.435>this, <00:28:29.575>uh, <00:28:29.715>with <00:28:29.855>this <00:28:29.995>kind <00:28:30.135>of, <00:28:30.275>uh,

583
00:28:32.455 --> 00:28:35.135
<00:28:32.455>perspective, <00:28:32.688>I <00:28:32.921>think <00:28:33.155>this <00:28:33.388>is <00:28:33.621>one <00:28:33.855>step.

584
00:28:35.635 --> 00:28:40.055
<00:28:35.635>And <00:28:35.775>the <00:28:35.915>other <00:28:36.055>thing <00:28:36.195>is <00:28:36.335>maybe <00:28:36.475>Woody, <00:28:36.615>we <00:28:36.754>also <00:28:36.895>should <00:28:37.035>say,

585
00:28:40.235 --> 00:28:42.975
<00:28:40.235>if <00:28:40.409>someone <00:28:40.584>didn't <00:28:40.760>want <00:28:40.935>to <00:28:41.110>change <00:28:41.284>his <00:28:41.459>mindset <00:28:41.635>anymore,

586
00:28:43.155 --> 00:28:46.055
<00:28:43.155>he <00:28:43.295>might <00:28:43.435>be <00:28:43.575>not <00:28:43.715>the <00:28:43.855>right <00:28:43.995>person <00:28:44.135>to <00:28:44.274>work <00:28:44.415>in <00:28:44.555>hr.

587
00:28:46.565 --> 00:28:48.735
<00:28:46.565>Yeah. <00:28:46.915>Honestly, <00:28:47.265>that's <00:28:47.615>for <00:28:47.965>sure.

588
00:28:48.875 --> 00:28:50.575
<00:28:48.875>Um, <00:28:49.108>and <00:28:49.341>also <00:28:49.575>not <00:28:49.808>being <00:28:50.041>a <00:28:50.275>recruiter,

589
00:28:50.655 --> 00:28:55.375
<00:28:50.655>a <00:28:50.810>recruiter <00:28:50.966>means <00:28:51.121>you <00:28:51.277>are <00:28:51.432>a <00:28:51.588>people, <00:28:51.743>uh, <00:28:51.899>focused <00:28:52.055>person

590
00:28:55.565 --> 00:28:58.985
<00:28:55.565>that <00:28:55.740>helps <00:28:55.915>a <00:28:56.090>company <00:28:56.265>to <00:28:56.440>find <00:28:56.615>the <00:28:56.790>right <00:28:56.965>talent

591
00:28:59.045 --> 00:29:01.665
<00:28:59.045>to <00:28:59.245>the <00:28:59.445>right <00:28:59.645>time, <00:28:59.845>but <00:29:00.045>also <00:29:00.245>help, <00:29:00.445>uh,

592
00:29:01.765 --> 00:29:03.265
<00:29:01.765>on <00:29:02.035>the <00:29:02.305>other <00:29:02.575>side <00:29:02.845>job <00:29:03.115>seekers

593
00:29:03.405 --> 00:29:05.265
<00:29:03.405>to <00:29:03.685>find <00:29:03.965>the <00:29:04.245>next <00:29:04.524>best <00:29:04.805>opportunity.

594
00:29:05.645 --> 00:29:09.825
<00:29:05.645>Mm. <00:29:05.800>Together <00:29:05.956>we <00:29:06.111>change <00:29:06.267>lives <00:29:06.422>to <00:29:06.578>together <00:29:06.733>we <00:29:06.889>create <00:29:07.045>societies

595
00:29:09.925 --> 00:29:14.225
<00:29:09.925>around <00:29:10.065>us <00:29:10.205>because, <00:29:10.345>you <00:29:10.485>know, <00:29:10.625>employers <00:29:10.764>are <00:29:10.905>part <00:29:11.044>of <00:29:11.185>a <00:29:11.325>society

596
00:29:14.525 --> 00:29:17.505
<00:29:14.525>and <00:29:14.665>earning <00:29:14.805>enough <00:29:14.945>money <00:29:15.085>means <00:29:15.225>also <00:29:15.365>you <00:29:15.505>can <00:29:15.645>be <00:29:15.785>part <00:29:15.925>of,

597
00:29:17.565 --> 00:29:18.705
<00:29:17.565>of <00:29:17.907>an <00:29:18.249>active <00:29:18.591>society.

598
00:29:18.845 --> 00:29:21.545
<00:29:18.845>So <00:29:19.078>we <00:29:19.311>create <00:29:19.545>our <00:29:19.778>own <00:29:20.011>society. <00:29:20.245>Mm-hmm.

599
00:29:22.295 --> 00:29:24.395
<00:29:22.295>That's <00:29:22.470>For <00:29:22.645>sure. <00:29:22.820>And <00:29:22.995>which <00:29:23.170>are <00:29:23.345>kind <00:29:23.520>of <00:29:23.695>society.

600
00:29:24.815 --> 00:29:26.595
<00:29:24.815>Do <00:29:25.015>we <00:29:25.215>want <00:29:25.415>a <00:29:25.615>gray <00:29:25.815>and <00:29:26.015>white <00:29:26.215>one

601
00:29:26.735 --> 00:29:28.195
<00:29:26.735>or <00:29:26.954>do <00:29:27.173>we <00:29:27.391>want <00:29:27.610>a <00:29:27.830>colorful <00:29:28.049>one?

602
00:29:28.465 --> 00:29:30.835
<00:29:28.465>Yeah. <00:29:28.620>And <00:29:28.776>with <00:29:28.931>this, <00:29:29.087>we <00:29:29.242>have <00:29:29.398>to <00:29:29.553>rethink <00:29:29.709>this <00:29:29.865>one.

603
00:29:31.655 --> 00:29:33.995
<00:29:31.655>And <00:29:32.355>honestly, <00:29:33.055>um,

604
00:29:34.665 --> 00:29:38.755
<00:29:34.665>this <00:29:34.865>new <00:29:35.065>technology <00:29:35.264>opportunities <00:29:35.465>right <00:29:35.665>now <00:29:35.865>gives <00:29:36.065>us

605
00:29:39.095 --> 00:29:40.275
<00:29:39.095>so <00:29:39.626>much <00:29:40.157>more.

606
00:29:40.825 --> 00:29:44.975
<00:29:40.825>Yeah. <00:29:41.058>Um, <00:29:41.291>I <00:29:41.525>would <00:29:41.758>say <00:29:41.991>entry <00:29:42.225>opportunities

607
00:29:45.275 --> 00:29:49.055
<00:29:45.275>as <00:29:45.382>we <00:29:45.490>have <00:29:45.598>in <00:29:45.705>the <00:29:45.813>past <00:29:45.921>that <00:29:46.028>I <00:29:46.136>would <00:29:46.244>say <00:29:46.351>it's <00:29:46.459>now <00:29:46.567>really <00:29:46.675>time

608
00:29:49.115 --> 00:29:52.935
<00:29:49.115>to <00:29:49.270>rethink <00:29:49.426>what <00:29:49.581>is <00:29:49.737>the <00:29:49.892>skills <00:29:50.048>that <00:29:50.203>you <00:29:50.359>really <00:29:50.515>needed

609
00:29:53.195 --> 00:29:55.215
<00:29:53.195>to <00:29:53.475>be <00:29:53.754>successful <00:29:54.034>on <00:29:54.314>this <00:29:54.595>job.

610
00:29:55.435 --> 00:29:56.695
<00:29:55.435>Mm-hmm. <00:29:56.569>Yep.

611
00:29:57.385 --> 00:30:00.245
<00:29:57.385>That's, <00:29:57.525>I <00:29:57.665>I <00:29:57.805>think <00:29:57.945>that <00:29:58.085>could <00:29:58.225>be <00:29:58.365>already <00:29:58.504>a <00:29:58.645>closing <00:29:58.785>word,

612
00:30:00.365 --> 00:30:01.965
<00:30:00.365>but <00:30:00.565>I <00:30:00.765>have <00:30:00.965>one <00:30:01.165>thing <00:30:01.365>which <00:30:01.565>to <00:30:01.765>ask.

613
00:30:02.085 --> 00:30:03.925
<00:30:02.085>I <00:30:02.240>mean, <00:30:02.396>I <00:30:02.551>was <00:30:02.707>looking <00:30:02.862>on <00:30:03.018>the, <00:30:03.173>on <00:30:03.329>the <00:30:03.485>watch.

614
00:30:04.045 --> 00:30:06.165
<00:30:04.045>I <00:30:04.220>think <00:30:04.395>that <00:30:04.570>the <00:30:04.745>30 <00:30:04.920>minutes <00:30:05.095>are, <00:30:05.270>uh, <00:30:05.445>passed

615
00:30:06.225 --> 00:30:07.285
<00:30:06.225>by <00:30:06.702>extremely <00:30:07.179>quick.

616
00:30:07.825 --> 00:30:10.285
<00:30:07.825>But <00:30:08.058>um, <00:30:08.291>as <00:30:08.525>you <00:30:08.758>were <00:30:08.991>mentioning <00:30:09.225>it,

617
00:30:10.285 --> 00:30:13.125
<00:30:10.285>and <00:30:10.401>I <00:30:10.518>was <00:30:10.635>mentioning <00:30:10.751>it <00:30:10.868>as <00:30:10.985>well, <00:30:11.101>um, <00:30:11.218>we <00:30:11.335>are <00:30:11.451>having <00:30:11.568>a <00:30:11.685>kind

618
00:30:13.125 --> 00:30:15.805
<00:30:13.125>of <00:30:13.252>a <00:30:13.379>talent <00:30:13.506>shortage, <00:30:13.634>and <00:30:13.761>I <00:30:13.888>think <00:30:14.015>it <00:30:14.143>will <00:30:14.270>become <00:30:14.397>worse <00:30:14.525>in

619
00:30:15.805 --> 00:30:17.245
<00:30:15.805>the <00:30:16.064>next <00:30:16.323>10 <00:30:16.582>to <00:30:16.841>15 <00:30:17.101>years.

620
00:30:17.255 --> 00:30:21.085
<00:30:17.255>Definitely. <00:30:17.430>And <00:30:17.605>with <00:30:17.780>all <00:30:17.955>that <00:30:18.130>kind <00:30:18.305>of <00:30:18.480>immigration <00:30:18.655>policies

621
00:30:21.085 --> 00:30:24.205
<00:30:21.085>that's <00:30:21.260>going <00:30:21.435>on <00:30:21.610>in <00:30:21.785>Europe <00:30:21.960>with <00:30:22.135>closing <00:30:22.310>the <00:30:22.485>borders,

622
00:30:24.585 --> 00:30:28.525
<00:30:24.585>not <00:30:24.760>really <00:30:24.935>being <00:30:25.110>open <00:30:25.285>for <00:30:25.460>letting <00:30:25.635>people <00:30:25.810>in, <00:30:25.985>uh,

623
00:30:28.885 --> 00:30:31.565
<00:30:28.885>I <00:30:29.118>think <00:30:29.351>retention <00:30:29.585>will <00:30:29.818>become <00:30:30.051>extremely <00:30:30.285>important

624
00:30:31.625 --> 00:30:35.245
<00:30:31.625>for <00:30:31.752>companies <00:30:31.879>because <00:30:32.006>I <00:30:32.134>think <00:30:32.261>I, <00:30:32.388>I, <00:30:32.515>I, <00:30:32.643>when <00:30:32.770>I <00:30:32.897>was <00:30:33.025>working

625
00:30:35.265 --> 00:30:36.485
<00:30:35.265>for <00:30:35.448>steps, <00:30:35.631>so <00:30:35.814>we <00:30:35.997>had <00:30:36.179>a <00:30:36.362>study

626
00:30:36.545 --> 00:30:40.165
<00:30:36.545>and <00:30:36.700>there <00:30:36.856>was <00:30:37.011>a <00:30:37.167>study <00:30:37.322>show <00:30:37.478>saying <00:30:37.633>that <00:30:37.789>two <00:30:37.945>third

627
00:30:40.225 --> 00:30:42.645
<00:30:40.225>of <00:30:40.380>the <00:30:40.536>people <00:30:40.691>we <00:30:40.847>are <00:30:41.002>looking <00:30:41.158>for <00:30:41.313>throughout <00:30:41.469>the <00:30:41.625>year,

628
00:30:43.385 --> 00:30:46.045
<00:30:43.385>the <00:30:43.540>reason <00:30:43.696>for <00:30:43.851>that <00:30:44.007>is <00:30:44.162>because <00:30:44.318>somebody <00:30:44.473>has <00:30:44.629>left <00:30:44.785>us.

629
00:30:46.585 --> 00:30:48.485
<00:30:46.585>So <00:30:46.865>one <00:30:47.145>third <00:30:47.425>is <00:30:47.705>probably <00:30:47.985>growth

630
00:30:48.545 --> 00:30:50.325
<00:30:48.545>and <00:30:48.778>one <00:30:49.011>third <00:30:49.245>is <00:30:49.478>probably <00:30:49.711>new <00:30:49.945>business.

631
00:30:50.585 --> 00:30:53.565
<00:30:50.585>And <00:30:50.712>two <00:30:50.839>thirds <00:30:50.966>are <00:30:51.094>still <00:30:51.221>a <00:30:51.348>kind <00:30:51.475>of, <00:30:51.603>we <00:30:51.730>are <00:30:51.857>losing <00:30:51.985>people

632
00:30:55.025 --> 00:30:58.965
<00:30:55.025>and <00:30:55.132>we <00:30:55.240>have <00:30:55.348>to <00:30:55.455>replace <00:30:55.563>them <00:30:55.671>in <00:30:55.778>a <00:30:55.886>way, <00:30:55.994>if <00:30:56.101>we <00:30:56.209>take <00:30:56.317>this <00:30:56.425>kind

633
00:30:58.965 --> 00:31:02.805
<00:30:58.965>of <00:30:59.120>skill-based <00:30:59.276>approach, <00:30:59.431>if <00:30:59.587>we <00:30:59.742>take <00:30:59.898>this <00:31:00.053>kind <00:31:00.209>of <00:31:00.365>helping

634
00:31:03.505 --> 00:31:06.805
<00:31:03.505>our <00:31:03.680>employees <00:31:03.855>to <00:31:04.030>really <00:31:04.205>build <00:31:04.380>their <00:31:04.555>future <00:31:04.730>within <00:31:04.905>the

635
00:31:06.805 --> 00:31:09.965
<00:31:06.805>organization <00:31:07.005>to <00:31:07.205>get <00:31:07.405>ready <00:31:07.605>for <00:31:07.805>the <00:31:08.005>next <00:31:08.205>steps,

636
00:31:10.415 --> 00:31:13.805
<00:31:10.415>being <00:31:10.695>passionate, <00:31:10.975>being <00:31:11.254>curious, <00:31:11.534>being <00:31:11.815>supported,

637
00:31:14.475 --> 00:31:16.165
<00:31:14.475>does <00:31:14.754>it <00:31:15.034>pay <00:31:15.314>in <00:31:15.594>on <00:31:15.875>retention?

638
00:31:17.305 --> 00:31:20.405
<00:31:17.305>Oh, <00:31:17.505>absolutely. <00:31:17.705>Um, <00:31:17.905>you <00:31:18.105>know, <00:31:18.305>you, <00:31:18.505>uh, <00:31:18.705>this,

639
00:31:20.465 --> 00:31:22.445
<00:31:20.465>you <00:31:20.745>have <00:31:21.024>described <00:31:21.304>right <00:31:21.584>now <00:31:21.865>every

640
00:31:22.565 --> 00:31:23.805
<00:31:22.565>retention <00:31:23.123>strategy, <00:31:23.681>right?

641
00:31:24.575 --> 00:31:28.275
<00:31:24.575>And <00:31:24.808>honestly, <00:31:25.041>um, <00:31:25.275>retention, <00:31:25.508>um, <00:31:25.741>as <00:31:25.975>well

642
00:31:28.295 --> 00:31:31.435
<00:31:28.295>as <00:31:28.435>work <00:31:28.575>wellbeing <00:31:28.715>should <00:31:28.855>be <00:31:28.995>the <00:31:29.135>core <00:31:29.275>of <00:31:29.415>a <00:31:29.555>people <00:31:29.695>strategy.

643
00:31:32.255 --> 00:31:35.315
<00:31:32.255>How <00:31:32.488>we <00:31:32.721>have <00:31:32.955>to <00:31:33.188>create <00:31:33.421>our <00:31:33.655>workplaces

644
00:31:35.465 --> 00:31:37.835
<00:31:35.465>that <00:31:35.745>really <00:31:36.024>thrive <00:31:36.304>people <00:31:36.584>to <00:31:36.865>work.

645
00:31:38.495 --> 00:31:41.835
<00:31:38.495>Um, <00:31:38.669>so, <00:31:38.844>and <00:31:39.020>therefore, <00:31:39.195>work <00:31:39.370>wellbeing <00:31:39.544>is <00:31:39.719>really, <00:31:39.895>um,

646
00:31:42.055 --> 00:31:44.155
<00:31:42.055>an <00:31:42.255>opportunity <00:31:42.455>to <00:31:42.655>have <00:31:42.855>a <00:31:43.055>look <00:31:43.255>into <00:31:43.455>it.

647
00:31:44.535 --> 00:31:47.155
<00:31:44.535>And <00:31:44.690>don't <00:31:44.846>get <00:31:45.001>me <00:31:45.157>wrong, <00:31:45.312>this <00:31:45.468>doesn't <00:31:45.623>mean <00:31:45.779>yoga, <00:31:45.935>math,

648
00:31:47.375 --> 00:31:49.875
<00:31:47.375>and <00:31:47.608>just <00:31:47.841>mental <00:31:48.075>wellbeing <00:31:48.308>is <00:31:48.541>means <00:31:48.775>really

649
00:31:50.575 --> 00:31:53.595
<00:31:50.575>the <00:31:50.730>whole <00:31:50.886>structure <00:31:51.041>around <00:31:51.197>how <00:31:51.352>we <00:31:51.508>show <00:31:51.663>up <00:31:51.819>to <00:31:51.975>work

650
00:31:54.505 --> 00:31:56.835
<00:31:54.505>from <00:31:54.680>a <00:31:54.855>trust <00:31:55.030>factor, <00:31:55.205>from <00:31:55.380>an <00:31:55.555>inclusion <00:31:55.730>per <00:31:55.905>factor,

651
00:31:56.945 --> 00:31:59.115
<00:31:56.945>from <00:31:57.100>a <00:31:57.256>leadership <00:31:57.411>per, <00:31:57.567>and <00:31:57.722>so <00:31:57.878>on <00:31:58.033>and <00:31:58.189>so <00:31:58.345>on.

652
00:31:59.115 --> 00:32:01.435
<00:31:59.115>It's <00:31:59.395>a <00:31:59.675>whole <00:31:59.955>environment <00:32:00.235>behind <00:32:00.515>this.

653
00:32:01.825 --> 00:32:04.355
<00:32:01.825>This <00:32:02.105>is <00:32:02.385>the <00:32:02.665>work <00:32:02.945>wellbeing <00:32:03.225>activities,

654
00:32:04.495 --> 00:32:05.955
<00:32:04.495>and <00:32:04.823>then <00:32:05.151>the <00:32:05.480>retention <00:32:05.809>piece

655
00:32:05.975 --> 00:32:08.395
<00:32:05.975>for <00:32:06.208>sure <00:32:06.441>is <00:32:06.675>the <00:32:06.908>overarching <00:32:07.141>strategy, <00:32:07.375>right?

656
00:32:08.975 --> 00:32:11.995
<00:32:08.975>And <00:32:09.175>we, <00:32:09.375>retention <00:32:09.574>means <00:32:09.774>you <00:32:09.975>create <00:32:10.175>a <00:32:10.375>workplace

657
00:32:12.165 --> 00:32:14.035
<00:32:12.165>where <00:32:12.445>people <00:32:12.725>feel <00:32:13.004>valued <00:32:13.284>and <00:32:13.565>seen.

658
00:32:15.245 --> 00:32:17.125
<00:32:15.245>Retention <00:32:15.524>means <00:32:15.804>you <00:32:16.084>create <00:32:16.364>a <00:32:16.645>workplace

659
00:32:17.125 --> 00:32:18.325
<00:32:17.125>where <00:32:17.485>people <00:32:17.845>can <00:32:18.205>grow.

660
00:32:19.685 --> 00:32:22.145
<00:32:19.685>And <00:32:19.918>retention <00:32:20.151>means <00:32:20.385>you <00:32:20.618>create <00:32:20.851>a <00:32:21.085>workplace

661
00:32:22.165 --> 00:32:24.865
<00:32:22.165>and <00:32:22.292>the <00:32:22.419>work <00:32:22.546>environment <00:32:22.674>where <00:32:22.801>we <00:32:22.928>all <00:32:23.055>of <00:32:23.183>them <00:32:23.310>see <00:32:23.437>the <00:32:23.565>value,

662
00:32:24.865 --> 00:32:26.465
<00:32:24.865>what <00:32:25.065>they're <00:32:25.265>doing <00:32:25.465>and <00:32:25.665>the <00:32:25.865>purpose <00:32:26.065>behind <00:32:26.265>that.

663
00:32:26.925 --> 00:32:31.065
<00:32:26.925>So <00:32:27.032>if <00:32:27.140>we <00:32:27.248>focus <00:32:27.355>on <00:32:27.463>what <00:32:27.571>skills <00:32:27.678>I <00:32:27.786>have, <00:32:27.894>what <00:32:28.001>I <00:32:28.109>bring <00:32:28.217>to <00:32:28.325>work,

664
00:32:31.285 --> 00:32:33.705
<00:32:31.285>how <00:32:31.440>I <00:32:31.596>can <00:32:31.751>create <00:32:31.907>the <00:32:32.062>best <00:32:32.218>value <00:32:32.373>with <00:32:32.529>my <00:32:32.685>skills

665
00:32:33.845 --> 00:32:35.705
<00:32:33.845>for <00:32:34.125>the <00:32:34.405>future <00:32:34.685>of <00:32:34.965>this <00:32:35.245>company,

666
00:32:36.715 --> 00:32:39.845
<00:32:36.715>and <00:32:36.889>being <00:32:37.064>also <00:32:37.240>able <00:32:37.415>to <00:32:37.590>rework <00:32:37.764>on <00:32:37.939>my <00:32:38.115>skills

667
00:32:40.025 --> 00:32:44.435
<00:32:40.025>to <00:32:40.132>be <00:32:40.240>also <00:32:40.348>seen <00:32:40.455>in <00:32:40.563>the <00:32:40.671>future <00:32:40.778>as <00:32:40.886>ready, <00:32:40.994>this <00:32:41.101>is <00:32:41.209>for <00:32:41.317>me, <00:32:41.425>part

668
00:32:44.435 --> 00:32:45.555
<00:32:44.435>of <00:32:44.771>a <00:32:45.107>retention <00:32:45.443>strategy.

669
00:32:45.615 --> 00:32:48.795
<00:32:45.615>And <00:32:45.755>this <00:32:45.895>is <00:32:46.035>why <00:32:46.175>also <00:32:46.315>for <00:32:46.455>me, <00:32:46.595>skill-based <00:32:46.735>hiring <00:32:46.875>is <00:32:47.015>nothing.

670
00:32:48.905 --> 00:32:50.475
<00:32:48.905>What <00:32:49.371>is <00:32:49.838>an <00:32:50.305>island?

671
00:32:50.865 --> 00:32:53.835
<00:32:50.865>Skill-based <00:32:51.065>hiring <00:32:51.265>is <00:32:51.465>part <00:32:51.665>of <00:32:51.865>the <00:32:52.065>overarching <00:32:52.265>skilling

672
00:32:53.855 --> 00:32:54.955
<00:32:53.855>and <00:32:54.350>people <00:32:54.845>strategy.

673
00:32:56.335 --> 00:32:58.755
<00:32:56.335>It <00:32:56.535>means <00:32:56.735>a <00:32:56.935>fundamental <00:32:57.135>shift <00:32:57.335>for <00:32:57.535>us <00:32:57.735>in

674
00:32:58.855 --> 00:33:01.435
<00:32:58.855>how <00:32:59.055>we <00:32:59.255>approach <00:32:59.455>our <00:32:59.655>processes, <00:32:59.855>systems <00:33:00.055>and <00:33:00.255>tools.

675
00:33:02.095 --> 00:33:05.395
<00:33:02.095>But <00:33:02.222>in <00:33:02.349>the <00:33:02.476>end, <00:33:02.604>we <00:33:02.731>are <00:33:02.858>still <00:33:02.985>talking <00:33:03.113>about <00:33:03.240>a <00:33:03.367>people <00:33:03.495>strategy

676
00:33:06.065 --> 00:33:09.875
<00:33:06.065>that <00:33:06.220>helps <00:33:06.376>to <00:33:06.531>have <00:33:06.687>a <00:33:06.842>sustainable <00:33:06.998>company <00:33:07.153>on <00:33:07.309>the <00:33:07.465>site

677
00:33:09.875 --> 00:33:10.995
<00:33:09.875>because <00:33:10.211>this <00:33:10.547>is <00:33:10.882>something

678
00:33:10.995 --> 00:33:12.555
<00:33:10.995>what <00:33:11.228>we <00:33:11.461>need <00:33:11.695>to <00:33:11.928>achieve <00:33:12.161>together, <00:33:12.395>right?

679
00:33:12.915 --> 00:33:15.635
<00:33:12.915>A <00:33:13.195>sustainable <00:33:13.475>company <00:33:13.754>story <00:33:14.034>and <00:33:14.315>growth.

680
00:33:17.475 --> 00:33:19.775
<00:33:17.475>Uta, <00:33:17.649>I <00:33:17.824>couldn't <00:33:18.000>have <00:33:18.175>found <00:33:18.350>a <00:33:18.524>better <00:33:18.699>closing <00:33:18.875>word.

681
00:33:19.915 --> 00:33:21.815
<00:33:19.915>So <00:33:20.115>thank <00:33:20.315>you <00:33:20.514>very <00:33:20.715>much <00:33:20.915>for <00:33:21.115>your <00:33:21.315>time.

682
00:33:21.875 --> 00:33:24.095
<00:33:21.875>It <00:33:22.050>was <00:33:22.225>really <00:33:22.400>a <00:33:22.575>pleasure <00:33:22.750>having <00:33:22.925>you <00:33:23.100>with <00:33:23.275>me.

683
00:33:24.855 --> 00:33:28.095
<00:33:24.855>I <00:33:24.982>hope <00:33:25.109>the <00:33:25.236>audience <00:33:25.364>enjoyed <00:33:25.491>this <00:33:25.618>episode <00:33:25.745>as <00:33:25.873>much <00:33:26.000>as <00:33:26.127>I <00:33:26.255>did

684
00:33:28.095 --> 00:33:29.095
<00:33:28.095>during <00:33:28.545>the <00:33:28.995>recording.

685
00:33:29.235 --> 00:33:31.935
<00:33:29.235>And <00:33:29.375>for <00:33:29.514>all <00:33:29.655>the <00:33:29.794>people <00:33:29.935>that <00:33:30.074>want <00:33:30.215>to <00:33:30.354>listen <00:33:30.495>to <00:33:30.635>us,

686
00:33:32.135 --> 00:33:33.495
<00:33:32.135>I <00:33:32.379>think <00:33:32.624>I <00:33:32.869>can <00:33:33.114>announce <00:33:33.359>it.

687
00:33:33.875 --> 00:33:38.255
<00:33:33.875>UTA <00:33:33.982>will <00:33:34.090>be <00:33:34.198>with <00:33:34.305>us <00:33:34.413>at <00:33:34.521>the <00:33:34.628>Tech <00:33:34.736>Leader <00:33:34.844>Summit <00:33:34.951>in <00:33:35.059>JU <00:33:35.167>in <00:33:35.275>July

688
00:33:38.325 --> 00:33:40.695
<00:33:38.325>from <00:33:38.500>the <00:33:38.675>ninth <00:33:38.850>to <00:33:39.025>11th <00:33:39.200>in <00:33:39.375>Berlin <00:33:39.550>at <00:33:39.725>a,

689
00:33:40.755 --> 00:33:42.175
<00:33:40.755>we <00:33:41.074>are <00:33:41.394>developers <00:33:41.713>World <00:33:42.033>Congress,

690
00:33:42.355 --> 00:33:46.135
<00:33:42.355>so <00:33:42.530>we <00:33:42.705>expect <00:33:42.880>15,000 <00:33:43.055>plus <00:33:43.230>developers <00:33:43.405>to <00:33:43.580>come <00:33:43.755>there,

691
00:33:46.285 --> 00:33:47.575
<00:33:46.285>500 <00:33:47.446>speakers

692
00:33:47.755 --> 00:33:52.655
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694
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695
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696
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697
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698
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699
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700
00:34:09.505 --> 00:34:10.505
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701
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702
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703
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704
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705
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706
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707
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708
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709
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710
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711
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712
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713
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