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<00:19:01.015>How, <00:19:01.215>how, <00:19:01.415>how, <00:19:01.615>how <00:19:01.815>does <00:19:02.015>this <00:19:02.215>look <00:19:02.415>like?

389
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<00:19:03.715>So <00:19:03.842>that <00:19:03.969>depends <00:19:04.096>a <00:19:04.224>little <00:19:04.351>bit <00:19:04.478>on, <00:19:04.605>on, <00:19:04.733>um, <00:19:04.860>the <00:19:04.987>team. <00:19:05.115>Yeah.

390
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<00:19:06.995>So <00:19:07.169>we <00:19:07.344>have <00:19:07.520>teams <00:19:07.695>that <00:19:07.870>are <00:19:08.044>doing <00:19:08.219>workplace <00:19:08.395>mm-hmm.

391
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<00:19:11.205>Support <00:19:11.438>for <00:19:11.671>computers <00:19:11.905>and <00:19:12.138>so <00:19:12.371>on. <00:19:12.605>Yeah.

392
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<00:19:13.555>And <00:19:13.835>they're <00:19:14.115>organized <00:19:14.395>differently <00:19:14.675>than <00:19:14.955>a

393
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<00:19:15.815>development <00:19:16.127>team <00:19:16.439>in <00:19:16.751>India.

394
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<00:19:16.905>Right, <00:19:17.346>right. <00:19:17.787>And, <00:19:18.228>um,

395
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<00:19:18.645>what <00:19:18.800>we <00:19:18.956>have <00:19:19.111>introduced <00:19:19.267>though <00:19:19.422>is <00:19:19.578>a <00:19:19.733>methodology <00:19:19.889>called <00:19:20.045>safe.

396
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<00:19:22.285>Most <00:19:22.481>of <00:19:22.677>you <00:19:22.873>will <00:19:23.069>know <00:19:23.266>it.

397
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<00:19:24.005>It's, <00:19:24.238>um, <00:19:24.471>it's <00:19:24.705>the <00:19:24.938>agile, <00:19:25.171>um, <00:19:25.405>framework.

398
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<00:19:27.275>So <00:19:27.430>we <00:19:27.586>work <00:19:27.741>with <00:19:27.897>our <00:19:28.052>business <00:19:28.208>counterparts <00:19:28.363>in, <00:19:28.519>in, <00:19:28.675>um,

399
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<00:19:31.015>product <00:19:31.501>teams <00:19:31.987>mm-hmm.

400
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<00:19:32.235>And <00:19:32.375>safe <00:19:32.514>teams. <00:19:32.655>And, <00:19:32.794>um, <00:19:32.935>we <00:19:33.074>try <00:19:33.215>to <00:19:33.354>really <00:19:33.495>get <00:19:33.635>this

401
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<00:19:36.255>through <00:19:36.705>the <00:19:37.155>organization.

402
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<00:19:37.255>Sometimes <00:19:37.885>it's <00:19:38.514>difficult

403
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<00:19:38.965>because <00:19:39.165>in <00:19:39.365>a <00:19:39.564>company <00:19:39.764>like <00:19:39.965>ours, <00:19:40.165>um, <00:19:40.365>some

404
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<00:19:42.695>of <00:19:42.895>our <00:19:43.095>colleagues <00:19:43.294>still <00:19:43.495>want <00:19:43.695>the <00:19:43.895>GaN <00:19:44.095>charts

405
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<00:19:45.075>and <00:19:45.202>want, <00:19:45.329>want <00:19:45.456>to <00:19:45.584>know <00:19:45.711>when <00:19:45.838>the <00:19:45.965>go <00:19:46.093>live <00:19:46.220>of <00:19:46.347>a <00:19:46.475>certain,

406
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<00:19:49.035>um, <00:19:49.735>software <00:19:50.435>is.

407
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<00:19:50.915>So, <00:19:51.070>so <00:19:51.226>it's <00:19:51.381>also <00:19:51.537>a <00:19:51.692>lot <00:19:51.848>of <00:19:52.003>cultural <00:19:52.159>change, <00:19:52.315>lots

408
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<00:19:53.975>of <00:19:54.324>education <00:19:54.675>inside <00:19:55.024>the <00:19:55.375>company.

409
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<00:19:56.755>And <00:19:56.910>also, <00:19:57.066>to <00:19:57.221>be <00:19:57.377>honest, <00:19:57.532>when <00:19:57.688>we <00:19:57.843>have <00:19:57.999>car <00:19:58.155>launches,

410
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<00:20:00.115>we <00:20:00.493>have <00:20:00.871>specific <00:20:01.249>dates.

411
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<00:20:01.435>Mm-hmm. <00:20:01.784>So <00:20:02.135>therefore, <00:20:02.485>yes, <00:20:02.835>agile,

412
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<00:20:04.475>but <00:20:04.824>also <00:20:05.175>working <00:20:05.524>with <00:20:05.875>clinics.

413
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<00:20:06.415>Yeah. <00:20:06.570>You <00:20:06.726>need <00:20:06.881>to <00:20:07.037>deliver <00:20:07.192>at <00:20:07.348>some <00:20:07.503>point. <00:20:07.659>Um, <00:20:07.815>right.

414
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<00:20:09.395>And <00:20:09.535>how <00:20:09.675>do <00:20:09.815>we <00:20:09.955>work <00:20:10.095>with, <00:20:10.235>um, <00:20:10.375>the <00:20:10.514>in-car <00:20:10.655>software <00:20:10.795>teams?

415
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<00:20:12.795>We <00:20:13.075>deliver <00:20:13.355>the <00:20:13.635>end-to-end <00:20:13.915>software <00:20:14.195>journey.

416
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<00:20:15.115>Um, <00:20:15.255>so <00:20:15.395>all <00:20:15.535>the <00:20:15.675>tools, <00:20:15.815>all <00:20:15.955>the <00:20:16.095>foundation, <00:20:16.235>um, <00:20:16.375>for <00:20:16.515>Magnos

417
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<00:20:19.735>and <00:20:19.875>team <00:20:20.014>to <00:20:20.155>be <00:20:20.294>able <00:20:20.435>to <00:20:20.574>build <00:20:20.715>this <00:20:20.854>new <00:20:20.995>MBOS <00:20:21.135>software

418
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<00:20:24.035>for <00:20:24.142>the <00:20:24.250>cars, <00:20:24.358>and <00:20:24.465>we <00:20:24.573>do <00:20:24.681>the <00:20:24.788>over <00:20:24.896>the <00:20:25.004>air <00:20:25.111>updates <00:20:25.219>and <00:20:25.327>so <00:20:25.435>on,

419
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<00:20:28.305>Which <00:20:28.480>by <00:20:28.655>the <00:20:28.830>way, <00:20:29.005>you <00:20:29.180>can <00:20:29.355>experience <00:20:29.530>that <00:20:29.705>we,

420
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<00:20:30.775>developers <00:20:31.125>saw <00:20:31.475>Congress <00:20:31.825>2025 <00:20:32.175>life.

421
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<00:20:34.555>Yes. <00:20:34.730>So <00:20:34.905>we're <00:20:35.080>gonna <00:20:35.255>have <00:20:35.430>a <00:20:35.605>small <00:20:35.780>surprise <00:20:35.955>there.

422
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<00:20:37.555>Um, <00:20:37.788>so <00:20:38.021>basically <00:20:38.255>what <00:20:38.488>you're <00:20:38.721>saying <00:20:38.955>is,

423
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<00:20:40.155>is <00:20:40.330>is <00:20:40.504>your <00:20:40.680>teams <00:20:40.855>also <00:20:41.030>serve <00:20:41.205>as <00:20:41.379>kind <00:20:41.555>of

424
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<00:20:42.455>what <00:20:42.688>we <00:20:42.921>call <00:20:43.155>today <00:20:43.388>a <00:20:43.621>platform <00:20:43.855>engineering.

425
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<00:20:44.915>Yes. <00:20:45.090>For, <00:20:45.264>for <00:20:45.440>the <00:20:45.615>entire <00:20:45.790>organization, <00:20:45.965>which <00:20:46.139>is <00:20:46.315>basically,

426
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<00:20:48.145>you <00:20:48.712>know, <00:20:49.279>a,

427
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<00:20:49.725>a <00:20:50.004>organization <00:20:50.284>in <00:20:50.564>itself, <00:20:50.844>uh, <00:20:51.125>obviously.

428
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<00:20:53.945>Um, <00:20:54.120>are <00:20:54.294>there <00:20:54.470>other <00:20:54.645>kind <00:20:54.820>of, <00:20:54.995>you <00:20:55.169>know, <00:20:55.345>principles

429
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<00:20:57.115>that <00:20:57.465>you <00:20:57.815>have, <00:20:58.165>have, <00:20:58.515>uh,

430
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<00:20:59.465>or <00:20:59.592>let's <00:20:59.719>put <00:20:59.846>it <00:20:59.974>like <00:21:00.101>this, <00:21:00.228>like <00:21:00.355>what <00:21:00.483>is, <00:21:00.610>in <00:21:00.737>your <00:21:00.865>view,

431
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<00:21:02.475>what <00:21:02.675>is <00:21:02.875>kind <00:21:03.074>of <00:21:03.274>an <00:21:03.475>ideal <00:21:03.675>engineering <00:21:03.875>culture?

432
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<00:21:06.355>Like <00:21:06.555>what's <00:21:06.755>your <00:21:06.955>vision <00:21:07.155>of <00:21:07.355>the <00:21:07.555>perfect <00:21:07.755>engineering

433
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<00:21:08.605>Culture? <00:21:09.055>The <00:21:09.505>perfect

434
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<00:21:09.605>engineering <00:21:09.955>culture, <00:21:10.305>data <00:21:10.655>driven? <00:21:11.005>Yeah.

435
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<00:21:13.505>And, <00:21:14.205>um, <00:21:14.905>so

436
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<00:21:16.165>therefore <00:21:16.631>agile <00:21:17.098>to <00:21:17.565>respond

437
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<00:21:18.745>and <00:21:18.945>quick <00:21:19.145>to, <00:21:19.344>to <00:21:19.544>analyze <00:21:19.745>what's <00:21:19.945>going <00:21:20.145>wrong.

438
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<00:21:21.825>Mm-hmm. <00:21:22.000>Um, <00:21:22.175>I <00:21:22.350>love <00:21:22.525>a <00:21:22.700>lot <00:21:22.875>of <00:21:23.050>new <00:21:23.225>functionality

439
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<00:21:26.385>for, <00:21:26.763>for <00:21:27.141>process <00:21:27.519>mining.

440
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<00:21:27.865>Mm-hmm. <00:21:28.279>Um, <00:21:28.693>to <00:21:29.107>ensure

441
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<00:21:29.245>that <00:21:29.419>we <00:21:29.594>really <00:21:29.770>have <00:21:29.945>the <00:21:30.120>right <00:21:30.294>processes <00:21:30.469>in <00:21:30.645>place

442
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<00:21:31.875>that <00:21:32.050>support <00:21:32.225>the <00:21:32.400>developers <00:21:32.575>and <00:21:32.750>are <00:21:32.925>not <00:21:33.100>hindering <00:21:33.275>them.

443
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<00:21:35.955>Because <00:21:36.129>in <00:21:36.304>a <00:21:36.480>big <00:21:36.655>corporation <00:21:36.830>like <00:21:37.004>ours, <00:21:37.179>it's <00:21:37.355>sometimes

444
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<00:21:39.355>difficult <00:21:39.588>to <00:21:39.821>navigate <00:21:40.055>with <00:21:40.288>all <00:21:40.521>the <00:21:40.755>rules

445
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<00:21:41.785>and <00:21:41.940>all <00:21:42.096>the <00:21:42.251>things <00:21:42.407>that <00:21:42.562>you <00:21:42.718>need <00:21:42.873>to <00:21:43.029>adhere <00:21:43.185>to.

446
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<00:21:46.385>And <00:21:46.585>if <00:21:46.785>we <00:21:46.985>can <00:21:47.185>get <00:21:47.385>rid <00:21:47.585>of <00:21:47.785>that

447
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<00:21:48.225>and, <00:21:48.399>uh, <00:21:48.574>the <00:21:48.750>colleagues <00:21:48.925>can <00:21:49.100>just <00:21:49.274>focus <00:21:49.449>on <00:21:49.625>creativity

448
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<00:21:51.705>and <00:21:51.985>focus <00:21:52.264>on <00:21:52.544>on <00:21:52.824>programming <00:21:53.105>and,

449
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<00:21:55.185>and <00:21:55.325>the, <00:21:55.465>the <00:21:55.605>tools <00:21:55.745>will <00:21:55.885>take <00:21:56.024>care <00:21:56.165>of <00:21:56.304>all <00:21:56.445>the <00:21:56.585>rest,

450
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<00:21:58.565>I <00:21:58.798>think <00:21:59.031>that <00:21:59.265>would <00:21:59.498>be <00:21:59.731>wonderful. <00:21:59.965>Mm-hmm.

451
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<00:22:00.555>Okay. <00:22:00.710>And, <00:22:00.866>and <00:22:01.021>what <00:22:01.177>do <00:22:01.332>you <00:22:01.488>do <00:22:01.643>at <00:22:01.799>Mercedes <00:22:01.955>Benz

452
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<00:22:03.745>to <00:22:04.024>basically <00:22:04.304>achieve <00:22:04.584>that <00:22:04.864>perfect <00:22:05.145>vision

453
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<00:22:07.825>of <00:22:08.175>the <00:22:08.525>engineering <00:22:08.875>culture <00:22:09.225>for

454
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<00:22:09.565>Yourself? <00:22:10.015>So <00:22:10.465>right

455
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<00:22:10.565>now <00:22:10.798>we <00:22:11.031>have <00:22:11.265>a <00:22:11.498>developer <00:22:11.731>survey <00:22:11.965>running.

456
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<00:22:13.105>So <00:22:13.280>we <00:22:13.455>always <00:22:13.630>ask, <00:22:13.805>how <00:22:13.980>can <00:22:14.155>we <00:22:14.330>get <00:22:14.505>better?

457
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<00:22:15.745>What's <00:22:15.978>hindering <00:22:16.211>you? <00:22:16.445>What <00:22:16.678>are <00:22:16.911>the <00:22:17.145>things

458
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<00:22:17.955>that <00:22:18.304>we <00:22:18.655>need <00:22:19.004>to <00:22:19.355>change?

459
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<00:22:19.585>Mm-hmm. <00:22:19.818>What <00:22:20.051>are <00:22:20.285>the <00:22:20.518>things <00:22:20.751>you <00:22:20.985>need

460
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<00:22:21.325>to <00:22:21.480>do <00:22:21.636>2, <00:22:21.791>3, <00:22:21.947>5 <00:22:22.102>times, <00:22:22.258>um, <00:22:22.413>to <00:22:22.569>get <00:22:22.725>there?

461
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<00:22:24.595>What <00:22:24.795>do <00:22:24.995>you <00:22:25.195>need <00:22:25.395>to <00:22:25.595>do <00:22:25.795>differently <00:22:25.995>when

462
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<00:22:27.045>you're <00:22:27.324>working <00:22:27.603>in <00:22:27.882>different <00:22:28.161>teams?

463
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<00:22:28.825>And <00:22:29.080>we <00:22:29.336>need <00:22:29.591>to <00:22:29.847>standardize <00:22:30.102>that.

464
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<00:22:30.545>We <00:22:30.713>need <00:22:30.882>to <00:22:31.051>take <00:22:31.220>that <00:22:31.388>out <00:22:31.557>of <00:22:31.726>our <00:22:31.895>way.

465
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<00:22:33.105>So <00:22:33.280>we <00:22:33.455>ensure <00:22:33.630>that <00:22:33.805>we <00:22:33.980>really <00:22:34.155>talk <00:22:34.330>to <00:22:34.505>each

466
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<00:22:35.125>and <00:22:35.300>everyone <00:22:35.475>to <00:22:35.650>understand <00:22:35.825>how <00:22:36.000>can <00:22:36.175>we <00:22:36.350>get <00:22:36.525>better.

467
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<00:22:37.905>And <00:22:38.045>that's <00:22:38.185>the <00:22:38.325>only <00:22:38.465>way <00:22:38.605>You <00:22:38.745>will <00:22:38.885>never <00:22:39.024>be <00:22:39.165>perfect. <00:22:39.305>Yeah.

468
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<00:22:41.345>You <00:22:41.578>will <00:22:41.811>need <00:22:42.045>to, <00:22:42.278>to <00:22:42.511>work <00:22:42.745>continuously

469
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<00:22:44.105>to <00:22:44.336>be <00:22:44.567>better <00:22:44.798>at <00:22:45.029>what <00:22:45.260>you're <00:22:45.491>doing.

470
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<00:22:46.025>So <00:22:46.200>basically <00:22:46.375>it's <00:22:46.550>the, <00:22:46.725>it's, <00:22:46.900>it's <00:22:47.075>actually <00:22:47.250>nothing <00:22:47.425>new,

471
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<00:22:49.225>but <00:22:49.380>the <00:22:49.536>way <00:22:49.691>how <00:22:49.847>you <00:22:50.002>do <00:22:50.158>it, <00:22:50.313>you <00:22:50.469>collect <00:22:50.625>feedback,

472
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<00:22:51.265>you <00:22:51.440>your <00:22:51.615>iterations, <00:22:51.790>you <00:22:51.965>try <00:22:52.140>to <00:22:52.315>make <00:22:52.490>things <00:22:52.665>better.

473
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<00:22:54.265>Um, <00:22:54.498>okay. <00:22:54.731>How <00:22:54.965>do <00:22:55.198>you <00:22:55.431>use <00:22:55.665>yourself?

474
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<00:22:57.345>Ai <00:22:57.500>kind <00:22:57.656>of, <00:22:57.811>we <00:22:57.967>always <00:22:58.122>talk <00:22:58.278>about, <00:22:58.433>you <00:22:58.589>know, <00:22:58.745>organizations,

475
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<00:23:00.215>developers, <00:23:00.415>non-developers, <00:23:00.615>whatever, <00:23:00.814>you <00:23:01.014>know, <00:23:01.215>uh, <00:23:01.415>using <00:23:01.615>AI

476
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<00:23:03.965>to <00:23:04.301>become <00:23:04.637>more <00:23:04.973>productive.

477
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<00:23:05.145>Um, <00:23:05.300>I, <00:23:05.456>I <00:23:05.611>rarely, <00:23:05.767>um, <00:23:05.922>uh, <00:23:06.078>talk <00:23:06.233>with <00:23:06.389>people <00:23:06.545>about

478
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<00:23:09.425>how <00:23:09.774>do <00:23:10.125>executives <00:23:10.475>use <00:23:10.825>ai?

479
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<00:23:11.165>How <00:23:11.365>does <00:23:11.565>that <00:23:11.764>change <00:23:11.965>your <00:23:12.165>own <00:23:12.365>role? <00:23:12.565>Right.

480
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<00:23:14.195>Kind <00:23:14.322>of, <00:23:14.449>uh, <00:23:14.576>are <00:23:14.704>you <00:23:14.831>needed <00:23:14.958>at <00:23:15.085>all <00:23:15.213>at <00:23:15.340>some <00:23:15.467>point <00:23:15.595>point?

481
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<00:23:18.305>Um, <00:23:18.538>um, <00:23:18.771>so <00:23:19.005>joking <00:23:19.238>a <00:23:19.471>bit, <00:23:19.705>but,

482
00:23:21.305 --> 00:23:23.525
<00:23:21.305>but <00:23:21.480>basically <00:23:21.655>how <00:23:21.830>do <00:23:22.005>you <00:23:22.180>use <00:23:22.355>it <00:23:22.530>for <00:23:22.705>yourself?

483
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<00:23:24.125>I <00:23:24.405>use <00:23:24.685>copilot <00:23:24.965>a <00:23:25.245>lot. <00:23:25.525>Yeah.

484
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<00:23:26.065>To <00:23:26.240>prepare, <00:23:26.415>to <00:23:26.590>summarize <00:23:26.765>things, <00:23:26.940>to <00:23:27.115>prepare <00:23:27.290>for <00:23:27.465>meetings,

485
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<00:23:29.715>obviously <00:23:30.064>also <00:23:30.415>to <00:23:30.764>check <00:23:31.115>in

486
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<00:23:34.225>in <00:23:34.365>documents <00:23:34.504>that <00:23:34.645>were, <00:23:34.784>were <00:23:34.925>written <00:23:35.064>in <00:23:35.205>the <00:23:35.344>past <00:23:35.485>to <00:23:35.625>ensure

487
00:23:38.805 --> 00:23:41.205
<00:23:38.805>that <00:23:39.085>decisions <00:23:39.365>that <00:23:39.645>we <00:23:39.925>take <00:23:40.205>adhere

488
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<00:23:41.225>to <00:23:41.399>whatever <00:23:41.574>we <00:23:41.750>have <00:23:41.925>decided <00:23:42.100>in, <00:23:42.274>in <00:23:42.449>formal <00:23:42.625>meetings.

489
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<00:23:45.805>I, <00:23:45.980>I <00:23:46.155>also, <00:23:46.330>I <00:23:46.505>didn't <00:23:46.680>grow <00:23:46.855>up <00:23:47.030>in <00:23:47.205>Mercedes,

490
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<00:23:48.985>so <00:23:49.157>a <00:23:49.329>lot <00:23:49.501>of <00:23:49.674>things <00:23:49.846>I <00:23:50.018>don't <00:23:50.191>know.

491
00:23:50.435 --> 00:23:52.845
<00:23:50.435>Yeah. <00:23:50.590>So <00:23:50.746>for <00:23:50.901>me, <00:23:51.057>it's <00:23:51.212>also <00:23:51.368>like <00:23:51.523>an <00:23:51.679>onboarding <00:23:51.835>buddy.

492
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<00:23:52.875>Sometimes <00:23:53.050>if <00:23:53.225>I <00:23:53.400>don't <00:23:53.575>know <00:23:53.750>something, <00:23:53.925>I <00:23:54.100>just <00:23:54.275>go

493
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<00:23:55.805>to <00:23:55.932>direct <00:23:56.059>chat <00:23:56.186>and <00:23:56.314>ask <00:23:56.441>about, <00:23:56.568>um, <00:23:56.695>okay, <00:23:56.823>where <00:23:56.950>do <00:23:57.077>I <00:23:57.205>need

494
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<00:23:59.365>to <00:23:59.587>go <00:23:59.809>to <00:24:00.031>ask <00:24:00.253>x, <00:24:00.475>Y, <00:24:00.697>Z?

495
00:24:01.505 --> 00:24:05.045
<00:24:01.505>Um, <00:24:01.680>so <00:24:01.855>for <00:24:02.030>me <00:24:02.205>it's <00:24:02.380>really <00:24:02.555>a <00:24:02.730>productivity <00:24:02.905>boost

496
00:24:05.045 --> 00:24:06.725
<00:24:05.045>because <00:24:05.220>I <00:24:05.395>have <00:24:05.570>someone <00:24:05.745>that <00:24:05.920>I <00:24:06.095>can <00:24:06.270>talk <00:24:06.445>to.

497
00:24:07.545 --> 00:24:10.925
<00:24:07.545>And, <00:24:07.672>um, <00:24:07.799>the <00:24:07.926>idea <00:24:08.054>should <00:24:08.181>really <00:24:08.308>be <00:24:08.435>that <00:24:08.563>we <00:24:08.690>also <00:24:08.817>have <00:24:08.945>agents

498
00:24:11.495 --> 00:24:13.245
<00:24:11.495>doing <00:24:11.728>a <00:24:11.961>lot <00:24:12.195>of <00:24:12.428>our, <00:24:12.661>our <00:24:12.895>work

499
00:24:13.745 --> 00:24:16.685
<00:24:13.745>and <00:24:13.885>a <00:24:14.024>lot <00:24:14.165>of <00:24:14.304>the <00:24:14.445>work <00:24:14.584>that <00:24:14.725>currently <00:24:14.864>also <00:24:15.004>my <00:24:15.145>office

500
00:24:16.755 --> 00:24:17.765
<00:24:16.755>team <00:24:17.058>needs <00:24:17.361>to <00:24:17.664>do.

501
00:24:18.505 --> 00:24:20.885
<00:24:18.505>Um, <00:24:18.680>so <00:24:18.855>at <00:24:19.030>the <00:24:19.205>moment <00:24:19.380>we <00:24:19.555>have <00:24:19.730>still <00:24:19.905>lots

502
00:24:20.885 --> 00:24:23.445
<00:24:20.885>of <00:24:21.118>different <00:24:21.351>systems <00:24:21.585>to <00:24:21.818>do <00:24:22.051>different <00:24:22.285>things.

503
00:24:23.445 --> 00:24:27.325
<00:24:23.445>Mm-hmm. <00:24:23.585>Yeah. <00:24:23.725>And <00:24:23.865>in <00:24:24.004>the <00:24:24.145>future, <00:24:24.284>hopefully <00:24:24.425>AI <00:24:24.564>agents <00:24:24.705>will <00:24:24.845>do

504
00:24:27.325 --> 00:24:29.685
<00:24:27.325>that <00:24:27.500>for <00:24:27.675>us, <00:24:27.850>and <00:24:28.025>we <00:24:28.200>can <00:24:28.375>focus <00:24:28.550>on <00:24:28.725>the

505
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<00:24:29.685>more <00:24:30.093>creative <00:24:30.501>tasks. <00:24:30.909>Yeah.

506
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<00:24:31.265>But <00:24:31.731>this <00:24:32.198>is <00:24:32.665>interesting.

507
00:24:33.265 --> 00:24:36.125
<00:24:33.265>Um, <00:24:33.392>and <00:24:33.519>how <00:24:33.646>do <00:24:33.774>you <00:24:33.901>stay, <00:24:34.028>I <00:24:34.155>mean, <00:24:34.283>this <00:24:34.410>is <00:24:34.537>also <00:24:34.665>bit

508
00:24:36.125 --> 00:24:39.045
<00:24:36.125>of <00:24:36.265>an <00:24:36.405>answer <00:24:36.545>for <00:24:36.685>my <00:24:36.825>next <00:24:36.965>question, <00:24:37.105>which <00:24:37.245>have <00:24:37.385>been <00:24:37.525>like,

509
00:24:39.145 --> 00:24:40.925
<00:24:39.145>how <00:24:39.345>do <00:24:39.545>you <00:24:39.745>stay <00:24:39.945>yourself <00:24:40.145>up <00:24:40.345>to <00:24:40.545>date?

510
00:24:41.165 --> 00:24:44.205
<00:24:41.165>I <00:24:41.320>mean, <00:24:41.476>you <00:24:41.631>have <00:24:41.787>a <00:24:41.942>huge <00:24:42.098>responsibility <00:24:42.253>for <00:24:42.409>many <00:24:42.565>people.

511
00:24:44.255 --> 00:24:47.405
<00:24:44.255>There <00:24:44.382>is <00:24:44.509>tons <00:24:44.636>of <00:24:44.764>topics <00:24:44.891>you <00:24:45.018>have <00:24:45.145>to <00:24:45.273>pick, <00:24:45.400>like <00:24:45.527>kind <00:24:45.655>of

512
00:24:47.405 --> 00:24:48.525
<00:24:47.405>where <00:24:47.657>you <00:24:47.909>put <00:24:48.161>your <00:24:48.413>focus

513
00:24:48.525 --> 00:24:51.045
<00:24:48.525>and <00:24:48.805>basically, <00:24:49.085>you <00:24:49.365>know, <00:24:49.645>um, <00:24:49.925>uh,

514
00:24:51.095 --> 00:24:52.685
<00:24:51.095>where <00:24:51.375>you <00:24:51.655>put <00:24:51.935>the <00:24:52.215>cognitive <00:24:52.495>load.

515
00:24:52.865 --> 00:24:56.445
<00:24:52.865>Yes. <00:24:52.992>You <00:24:53.119>know? <00:24:53.246>Right. <00:24:53.374>So <00:24:53.501>do <00:24:53.628>you <00:24:53.755>have <00:24:53.883>a <00:24:54.010>routine <00:24:54.137>or <00:24:54.265>Yes.

516
00:24:56.465 --> 00:25:00.245
<00:24:56.465>Or <00:24:56.620>a <00:24:56.776>strategy <00:24:56.931>of <00:24:57.087>how <00:24:57.242>you <00:24:57.398>stay <00:24:57.553>up <00:24:57.709>to <00:24:57.865>date?

517
00:25:00.385 --> 00:25:03.685
<00:25:00.385>And <00:25:00.540>I <00:25:00.696>mean, <00:25:00.851>not <00:25:01.007>just <00:25:01.162>reading <00:25:01.318>headlines <00:25:01.473>and <00:25:01.629>news, <00:25:01.785>but,

518
00:25:04.305 --> 00:25:07.565
<00:25:04.305>but <00:25:04.460>also, <00:25:04.616>uh, <00:25:04.771>kind <00:25:04.927>of <00:25:05.082>if <00:25:05.238>you <00:25:05.393>are <00:25:05.549>interested <00:25:05.705>in

519
00:25:08.385 --> 00:25:10.685
<00:25:08.385>diving <00:25:08.665>deeper <00:25:08.945>into <00:25:09.225>a <00:25:09.504>specific <00:25:09.785>topic.

520
00:25:10.825 --> 00:25:13.965
<00:25:10.825>Yes. <00:25:10.952>So <00:25:11.079>I <00:25:11.206>think <00:25:11.334>you <00:25:11.461>have <00:25:11.588>to <00:25:11.715>block <00:25:11.843>time <00:25:11.970>in <00:25:12.097>your <00:25:12.225>calendar,

521
00:25:13.965 --> 00:25:15.045
<00:25:13.965>otherwise <00:25:14.159>you <00:25:14.353>will <00:25:14.548>not <00:25:14.742>do <00:25:14.937>it.

522
00:25:16.035 --> 00:25:17.085
<00:25:16.035>It's <00:25:16.271>as <00:25:16.507>simple <00:25:16.743>as <00:25:16.980>that.

523
00:25:17.365 --> 00:25:18.925
<00:25:17.365>I <00:25:17.540>do <00:25:17.715>that <00:25:17.890>all <00:25:18.065>the <00:25:18.240>time, <00:25:18.415>but, <00:25:18.590>you <00:25:18.765>know,

524
00:25:19.185 --> 00:25:21.085
<00:25:19.185>it <00:25:19.418>doesn't <00:25:19.651>hinder <00:25:19.885>me <00:25:20.118>from <00:25:20.351>doing <00:25:20.585>still

525
00:25:21.085 --> 00:25:22.445
<00:25:21.085>something <00:25:21.493>different <00:25:21.901>than <00:25:22.309>it's,

526
00:25:22.825 --> 00:25:24.965
<00:25:22.825>But <00:25:23.025>the <00:25:23.225>difference <00:25:23.425>is <00:25:23.625>I <00:25:23.825>have <00:25:24.025>the <00:25:24.225>luxury

527
00:25:25.155 --> 00:25:28.165
<00:25:25.155>that <00:25:25.295>I <00:25:25.435>have <00:25:25.575>personal <00:25:25.715>coaching, <00:25:25.855>so <00:25:25.995>to <00:25:26.135>say, <00:25:26.274>from <00:25:26.415>our <00:25:26.555>experts.

528
00:25:28.385 --> 00:25:32.085
<00:25:28.385>So <00:25:28.560>the <00:25:28.735>colleagues <00:25:28.910>that <00:25:29.085>are <00:25:29.260>really <00:25:29.435>deeply <00:25:29.610>in, <00:25:29.785>um,

529
00:25:32.505 --> 00:25:34.125
<00:25:32.505>the <00:25:32.855>new <00:25:33.205>tech <00:25:33.555>topics, <00:25:33.905>yeah.

530
00:25:34.475 --> 00:25:36.325
<00:25:34.475>They <00:25:34.754>do <00:25:35.034>reverse <00:25:35.314>mentoring <00:25:35.594>for <00:25:35.875>us.

531
00:25:36.625 --> 00:25:41.045
<00:25:36.625>Um, <00:25:36.752>and <00:25:36.879>I <00:25:37.006>have <00:25:37.134>blocked <00:25:37.261>one <00:25:37.388>hour <00:25:37.515>every <00:25:37.643>Friday <00:25:37.770>morning <00:25:37.897>from <00:25:38.025>my

532
00:25:41.105 --> 00:25:42.405
<00:25:41.105>entire <00:25:41.690>management <00:25:42.275>team.

533
00:25:42.665 --> 00:25:45.605
<00:25:42.665>So <00:25:42.865>the <00:25:43.065>entire <00:25:43.264>leadership <00:25:43.465>team <00:25:43.665>gets <00:25:43.865>coaching <00:25:44.065>from

534
00:25:45.605 --> 00:25:46.925
<00:25:45.605>our <00:25:46.199>MBTI <00:25:46.793>experts.

535
00:25:47.105 --> 00:25:49.245
<00:25:47.105>That's <00:25:47.338>cool. <00:25:47.571>From <00:25:47.805>the <00:25:48.038>tech <00:25:48.271>innovation <00:25:48.505>experts,

536
00:25:49.425 --> 00:25:52.525
<00:25:49.425>and <00:25:49.565>they <00:25:49.705>teach <00:25:49.845>us <00:25:49.985>how <00:25:50.125>to <00:25:50.264>build <00:25:50.405>your <00:25:50.544>own <00:25:50.685>agents <00:25:50.825>for,

537
00:25:52.545 --> 00:25:53.885
<00:25:52.545>for <00:25:52.746>example, <00:25:52.947>we <00:25:53.148>have <00:25:53.349>so <00:25:53.550>much <00:25:53.751>fun.

538
00:25:54.665 --> 00:25:58.045
<00:25:54.665>So, <00:25:54.840>um, <00:25:55.014>so <00:25:55.190>we <00:25:55.365>really <00:25:55.540>do <00:25:55.715>hands <00:25:55.889>on <00:25:56.065>programming

539
00:25:58.185 --> 00:26:00.245
<00:25:58.185>and <00:25:58.418>yeah, <00:25:58.651>sometimes <00:25:58.885>we <00:25:59.118>look <00:25:59.351>quite <00:25:59.585>stupid,

540
00:26:00.745 --> 00:26:02.045
<00:26:00.745>but <00:26:00.978>we <00:26:01.213>laugh <00:26:01.447>about <00:26:01.681>each <00:26:01.915>other,

541
00:26:02.305 --> 00:26:04.645
<00:26:02.305>but <00:26:02.538>we <00:26:02.771>also <00:26:03.005>learn <00:26:03.238>how <00:26:03.471>to, <00:26:03.705>how

542
00:26:04.645 --> 00:26:06.685
<00:26:04.645>to <00:26:04.995>manage <00:26:05.345>certain <00:26:05.695>workflows <00:26:06.045>Yeah.

543
00:26:06.705 --> 00:26:11.085
<00:26:06.705>And <00:26:06.832>so <00:26:06.959>on. <00:26:07.086>So <00:26:07.214>we, <00:26:07.341>we <00:26:07.468>actually <00:26:07.595>learn <00:26:07.723>one <00:26:07.850>hour <00:26:07.977>every <00:26:08.105>Friday.

544
00:26:11.665 --> 00:26:13.165
<00:26:11.665>Um, <00:26:11.889>at <00:26:12.115>the <00:26:12.340>beginning <00:26:12.565>of <00:26:12.790>the <00:26:13.014>meeting,

545
00:26:13.465 --> 00:26:17.965
<00:26:13.465>we <00:26:13.605>always <00:26:13.745>get <00:26:13.885>an <00:26:14.024>update <00:26:14.165>on <00:26:14.304>what's <00:26:14.445>this, <00:26:14.584>this <00:26:14.725>week's <00:26:14.865>news?

546
00:26:18.075 --> 00:26:19.965
<00:26:18.075>Yeah. <00:26:18.355>So <00:26:18.635>what <00:26:18.915>happened <00:26:19.195>the <00:26:19.475>week

547
00:26:20.035 --> 00:26:21.845
<00:26:20.035>that <00:26:20.315>when <00:26:20.595>Deep <00:26:20.875>Seek <00:26:21.155>came <00:26:21.435>out?

548
00:26:21.845 --> 00:26:22.925
<00:26:21.845>Yeah. <00:26:22.331>Big <00:26:22.817>time.

549
00:26:23.295 --> 00:26:25.365
<00:26:23.295>There <00:26:23.470>was <00:26:23.645>a <00:26:23.820>huge <00:26:23.995>topic <00:26:24.170>that <00:26:24.345>we <00:26:24.520>looked <00:26:24.695>into

550
00:26:25.505 --> 00:26:26.605
<00:26:25.505>or <00:26:26.000>whatever's <00:26:26.495>happening.

551
00:26:27.185 --> 00:26:30.285
<00:26:27.185>So <00:26:27.418>just <00:26:27.651>yesterday <00:26:27.885>was, <00:26:28.118>um, <00:26:28.351>ServiceNow <00:26:28.585>conference.

552
00:26:30.305 --> 00:26:32.805
<00:26:30.305>So <00:26:30.538>every <00:26:30.771>week <00:26:31.005>we, <00:26:31.238>we <00:26:31.471>learn <00:26:31.705>something,

553
00:26:32.805 --> 00:26:35.725
<00:26:32.805>what's <00:26:32.980>going <00:26:33.155>on <00:26:33.330>in <00:26:33.505>the <00:26:33.680>AI <00:26:33.855>space, <00:26:34.030>and, <00:26:34.205>um,

554
00:26:35.825 --> 00:26:37.205
<00:26:35.825>and <00:26:36.135>then <00:26:36.446>we <00:26:36.756>do <00:26:37.067>hands-on.

555
00:26:37.555 --> 00:26:40.725
<00:26:37.555>Okay. <00:26:37.788>We, <00:26:38.021>we <00:26:38.255>try <00:26:38.488>to <00:26:38.721>learn <00:26:38.955>which

556
00:26:41.635 --> 00:26:42.965
<00:26:41.635>tool <00:26:41.874>do <00:26:42.113>you <00:26:42.353>use <00:26:42.592>for <00:26:42.831>what?

557
00:26:43.345 --> 00:26:46.805
<00:26:43.345>Um, <00:26:43.545>what's <00:26:43.745>the, <00:26:43.945>what's <00:26:44.145>the <00:26:44.345>best <00:26:44.545>to <00:26:44.745>use,

558
00:26:46.805 --> 00:26:49.765
<00:26:46.805>in <00:26:46.960>which <00:26:47.116>case <00:26:47.271>we <00:26:47.427>can <00:26:47.582>ask <00:26:47.738>all <00:26:47.893>our <00:26:48.049>stupid <00:26:48.205>questions.

559
00:26:50.345 --> 00:26:52.285
<00:26:50.345>And, <00:26:50.578>um, <00:26:50.811>yeah. <00:26:51.045>And <00:26:51.278>we <00:26:51.511>also <00:26:51.745>share.

560
00:26:52.545 --> 00:26:54.005
<00:26:52.545>So <00:26:52.807>then <00:26:53.070>until <00:26:53.333>the <00:26:53.596>next <00:26:53.859>week,

561
00:26:54.725 --> 00:26:56.165
<00:26:54.725>everyone <00:26:55.049>has <00:26:55.373>tested <00:26:55.697>out <00:26:56.021>something.

562
00:26:56.785 --> 00:26:59.565
<00:26:56.785>Um, <00:26:56.960>usually <00:26:57.135>also <00:26:57.310>in <00:26:57.485>a, <00:26:57.660>in <00:26:57.835>a <00:26:58.010>private <00:26:58.185>environment,

563
00:26:59.565 --> 00:27:02.725
<00:26:59.565>sometimes <00:26:59.740>we <00:26:59.915>use <00:27:00.090>it <00:27:00.265>to <00:27:00.440>organize <00:27:00.615>our <00:27:00.790>spare <00:27:00.965>time

564
00:27:03.065 --> 00:27:06.885
<00:27:03.065>and <00:27:03.220>to <00:27:03.376>organize, <00:27:03.531>uh, <00:27:03.687>school <00:27:03.842>activities <00:27:03.998>and <00:27:04.153>stuff <00:27:04.309>like <00:27:04.465>that.

565
00:27:07.505 --> 00:27:09.565
<00:27:07.505>And <00:27:07.705>then <00:27:07.905>we <00:27:08.105>share, <00:27:08.305>um, <00:27:08.505>how <00:27:08.705>that <00:27:08.905>works.

566
00:27:09.745 --> 00:27:12.045
<00:27:09.745>And, <00:27:09.978>um, <00:27:10.211>yeah, <00:27:10.445>it's <00:27:10.678>just <00:27:10.911>continuous <00:27:11.145>learning.

567
00:27:12.545 --> 00:27:15.485
<00:27:12.545>And <00:27:12.720>none <00:27:12.895>of <00:27:13.070>us <00:27:13.245>has <00:27:13.420>learned <00:27:13.595>that <00:27:13.770>in <00:27:13.945>university.

568
00:27:15.985 --> 00:27:17.885
<00:27:15.985>So <00:27:16.125>we <00:27:16.264>need <00:27:16.405>to <00:27:16.544>ensure <00:27:16.685>that <00:27:16.824>we <00:27:16.965>stay <00:27:17.104>up <00:27:17.245>to <00:27:17.385>date

569
00:27:17.885 --> 00:27:19.325
<00:27:17.885>and <00:27:18.144>we <00:27:18.403>talk <00:27:18.662>about <00:27:18.921>it <00:27:19.181>openly

570
00:27:20.425 --> 00:27:22.725
<00:27:20.425>and <00:27:20.774>offer <00:27:21.125>also <00:27:21.475>learning <00:27:21.825>opportunities

571
00:27:22.865 --> 00:27:24.005
<00:27:22.865>for <00:27:23.207>the <00:27:23.549>whole <00:27:23.891>organization.

572
00:27:24.025 --> 00:27:26.325
<00:27:24.025>Mm. <00:27:24.200>But <00:27:24.375>I <00:27:24.550>think <00:27:24.725>it's <00:27:24.900>tone <00:27:25.075>from <00:27:25.250>the <00:27:25.425>top.

573
00:27:26.505 --> 00:27:28.725
<00:27:26.505>So <00:27:26.855>if <00:27:27.205>my <00:27:27.555>organization <00:27:27.905>knows

574
00:27:29.595 --> 00:27:31.725
<00:27:29.595>that <00:27:29.828>we <00:27:30.061>are <00:27:30.295>building <00:27:30.528>our <00:27:30.761>own <00:27:30.995>agents,

575
00:27:32.115 --> 00:27:34.045
<00:27:32.115>that <00:27:32.315>we <00:27:32.515>are <00:27:32.715>sitting <00:27:32.915>there <00:27:33.115>every <00:27:33.315>Friday <00:27:33.515>learning,

576
00:27:34.475 --> 00:27:36.685
<00:27:34.475>then <00:27:34.754>it's <00:27:35.034>also <00:27:35.314>a <00:27:35.594>call <00:27:35.875>out

577
00:27:36.685 --> 00:27:38.845
<00:27:36.685>and <00:27:36.860>a <00:27:37.034>shout <00:27:37.210>out <00:27:37.385>to <00:27:37.560>the <00:27:37.735>organization <00:27:37.909>to <00:27:38.085>ensure

578
00:27:38.845 --> 00:27:39.925
<00:27:38.845>that <00:27:39.039>they <00:27:39.233>keep <00:27:39.428>up <00:27:39.622>to <00:27:39.817>date.

579
00:27:40.115 --> 00:27:43.765
<00:27:40.115>Yeah. <00:27:40.255>I <00:27:40.395>mean, <00:27:40.535>what <00:27:40.675>I <00:27:40.815>find <00:27:40.955>interesting <00:27:41.095>is <00:27:41.235>like, <00:27:41.375>I <00:27:41.515>mean,

580
00:27:43.765 --> 00:27:46.165
<00:27:43.765>we <00:27:43.940>all <00:27:44.115>know <00:27:44.290>that <00:27:44.465>this <00:27:44.640>kind <00:27:44.815>of <00:27:44.990>technology <00:27:45.165>and,

581
00:27:46.185 --> 00:27:48.725
<00:27:46.185>and, <00:27:46.418>you <00:27:46.651>know, <00:27:46.885>evolves <00:27:47.118>at <00:27:47.351>basically <00:27:47.585>the,

582
00:27:48.865 --> 00:27:50.845
<00:27:48.865>the <00:27:49.215>an <00:27:49.565>exponential <00:27:49.915>speed, <00:27:50.265>right?

583
00:27:50.985 --> 00:27:53.405
<00:27:50.985>So, <00:27:51.159>and <00:27:51.334>when <00:27:51.510>you <00:27:51.685>think <00:27:51.860>about <00:27:52.034>like <00:27:52.209>a <00:27:52.385>year

584
00:27:53.405 --> 00:27:57.245
<00:27:53.405>or <00:27:53.512>two <00:27:53.620>ago, <00:27:53.728>we <00:27:53.835>all <00:27:53.943>said, <00:27:54.051>okay, <00:27:54.158>gen <00:27:54.266>AI <00:27:54.374>is <00:27:54.481>the <00:27:54.589>next <00:27:54.697>big <00:27:54.805>thing.

585
00:27:57.565 --> 00:28:01.685
<00:27:57.565>I <00:27:57.740>mean, <00:27:57.915>Polsky <00:27:58.090>basically <00:27:58.265>made <00:27:58.440>a <00:27:58.615>nice <00:27:58.790>comparison <00:27:58.965>that

586
00:28:01.685 --> 00:28:04.805
<00:28:01.685>to <00:28:01.840>Congress <00:28:01.996>of, <00:28:02.151>Hey, <00:28:02.307>what's <00:28:02.462>the <00:28:02.618>next <00:28:02.773>kind <00:28:02.929>of <00:28:03.085>error?

587
00:28:04.855 --> 00:28:08.885
<00:28:04.855>There <00:28:04.982>was <00:28:05.109>like, <00:28:05.236>you <00:28:05.364>know, <00:28:05.491>this <00:28:05.618>just <00:28:05.745>this, <00:28:05.873>um, <00:28:06.000>the, <00:28:06.127>the, <00:28:06.255>um,

588
00:28:09.885 --> 00:28:12.245
<00:28:09.885>internet <00:28:10.085>error, <00:28:10.285>the <00:28:10.485>information <00:28:10.685>error, <00:28:10.885>the <00:28:11.085>mobile <00:28:11.285>error,

589
00:28:12.305 --> 00:28:14.005
<00:28:12.305>the <00:28:12.538>social <00:28:12.771>media <00:28:13.005>error, <00:28:13.238>and <00:28:13.471>so <00:28:13.705>on.

590
00:28:14.105 --> 00:28:16.885
<00:28:14.105>And <00:28:14.232>was <00:28:14.359>the <00:28:14.486>question <00:28:14.614>like <00:28:14.741>two <00:28:14.868>years <00:28:14.995>ago, <00:28:15.123>I <00:28:15.250>think <00:28:15.377>that <00:28:15.505>was

591
00:28:17.465 --> 00:28:19.645
<00:28:17.465>the <00:28:17.639>question <00:28:17.814>was <00:28:17.990>like, <00:28:18.165>uh, <00:28:18.340>what's <00:28:18.514>the <00:28:18.689>next <00:28:18.865>thing?

592
00:28:19.705 --> 00:28:21.125
<00:28:19.705>Is <00:28:19.960>it, <00:28:20.216>is <00:28:20.471>it <00:28:20.727>like <00:28:20.983>blockchain?

593
00:28:21.265 --> 00:28:24.325
<00:28:21.265>So <00:28:21.392>his <00:28:21.519>answer <00:28:21.646>was, <00:28:21.774>yeah, <00:28:21.901>the, <00:28:22.028>these <00:28:22.155>guys <00:28:22.283>had <00:28:22.410>like <00:28:22.537>10 <00:28:22.665>years,

594
00:28:24.325 --> 00:28:25.965
<00:28:24.325>more <00:28:24.525>than <00:28:24.725>10 <00:28:24.925>years <00:28:25.125>to <00:28:25.325>prove <00:28:25.525>kind <00:28:25.725>of

595
00:28:25.965 --> 00:28:27.725
<00:28:25.965>that <00:28:26.165>it <00:28:26.365>really <00:28:26.564>kind <00:28:26.764>of <00:28:26.965>can <00:28:27.165>do <00:28:27.365>something.

596
00:28:28.465 --> 00:28:33.245
<00:28:28.465>Um, <00:28:28.605>so <00:28:28.745>no, <00:28:28.885>that's <00:28:29.024>not, <00:28:29.165>um, <00:28:29.304>quantum <00:28:29.445>is <00:28:29.584>still <00:28:29.725>further <00:28:29.865>away,

597
00:28:34.305 --> 00:28:36.045
<00:28:34.305>um, <00:28:34.771>and <00:28:35.238>other <00:28:35.705>things.

598
00:28:36.045 --> 00:28:38.245
<00:28:36.045>And <00:28:36.220>then <00:28:36.395>it <00:28:36.570>was <00:28:36.745>like, <00:28:36.920>Hey, <00:28:37.095>it's <00:28:37.270>generative <00:28:37.445>ai,

599
00:28:38.245 --> 00:28:39.285
<00:28:38.245>which <00:28:38.557>obviously <00:28:38.869>it <00:28:39.181>is,

600
00:28:39.945 --> 00:28:41.365
<00:28:39.945>but <00:28:40.200>already <00:28:40.456>now, <00:28:40.711>as <00:28:40.967>you <00:28:41.223>mentioned,

601
00:28:41.425 --> 00:28:43.125
<00:28:41.425>we <00:28:41.600>are <00:28:41.774>talking <00:28:41.950>now <00:28:42.125>about <00:28:42.300>things <00:28:42.475>like, <00:28:42.649>you <00:28:42.825>know,

602
00:28:43.145 --> 00:28:44.245
<00:28:43.145>agents, <00:28:44.135>agent

603
00:28:44.305 --> 00:28:47.645
<00:28:44.305>Ai, <00:28:44.480>Which <00:28:44.655>is, <00:28:44.830>uh, <00:28:45.005>again, <00:28:45.180>like <00:28:45.355>a, <00:28:45.530>a, <00:28:45.705>a,

604
00:28:48.275 --> 00:28:49.365
<00:28:48.275>another <00:28:48.765>new <00:28:49.256>layer.

605
00:28:49.425 --> 00:28:53.005
<00:28:49.425>And <00:28:49.580>then <00:28:49.736>we <00:28:49.891>have, <00:28:50.047>you <00:28:50.202>know, <00:28:50.358>other <00:28:50.513>things <00:28:50.669>coming <00:28:50.825>up.

606
00:28:53.065 --> 00:28:55.285
<00:28:53.065>So <00:28:53.205>I <00:28:53.345>think <00:28:53.485>at <00:28:53.625>some <00:28:53.765>point <00:28:53.905>we <00:28:54.045>just <00:28:54.185>need <00:28:54.325>to <00:28:54.465>accept

607
00:28:55.285 --> 00:28:58.245
<00:28:55.285>that <00:28:55.460>we <00:28:55.635>can't <00:28:55.810>keep <00:28:55.985>up <00:28:56.160>with <00:28:56.335>all <00:28:56.510>the <00:28:56.685>trends,

608
00:28:58.385 --> 00:29:02.045
<00:28:58.385>and <00:28:58.485>at <00:28:58.585>the <00:28:58.685>end <00:28:58.785>of <00:28:58.885>the <00:28:58.985>day, <00:28:59.085>maybe <00:28:59.185>we, <00:28:59.285>we <00:28:59.385>stay <00:28:59.485>kind <00:28:59.585>of <00:28:59.685>use <00:28:59.785>us

609
00:29:02.905 --> 00:29:07.645
<00:29:02.905>and, <00:29:03.045>and, <00:29:03.185>um, <00:29:03.325>have, <00:29:03.465>again, <00:29:03.605>apply <00:29:03.745>this <00:29:03.885>kind <00:29:04.024>of <00:29:04.165>t <00:29:04.305>shape,

610
00:29:07.755 --> 00:29:10.005
<00:29:07.755>know <00:29:08.221>something <00:29:08.688>about <00:29:09.155>everything

611
00:29:10.105 --> 00:29:12.925
<00:29:10.105>and <00:29:10.260>know <00:29:10.416>a <00:29:10.571>lot <00:29:10.727>saying <00:29:10.882>about <00:29:11.038>one <00:29:11.193>thing <00:29:11.349>maybe. <00:29:11.505>Right.

612
00:29:13.745 --> 00:29:17.045
<00:29:13.745>But <00:29:13.872>I, <00:29:13.999>I <00:29:14.126>think <00:29:14.254>we <00:29:14.381>saw <00:29:14.508>a <00:29:14.635>quote <00:29:14.763>upstairs <00:29:14.890>when <00:29:15.017>we <00:29:15.145>first

613
00:29:17.065 --> 00:29:19.725
<00:29:17.065>walked <00:29:17.298>into <00:29:17.531>the <00:29:17.765>museum <00:29:17.998>with <00:29:18.231>a <00:29:18.465>horse.

614
00:29:20.075 --> 00:29:22.645
<00:29:20.075>Yeah. <00:29:20.308>Um, <00:29:20.541>and <00:29:20.775>I <00:29:21.008>really <00:29:21.241>like <00:29:21.475>that.

615
00:29:22.905 --> 00:29:25.725
<00:29:22.905>Um, <00:29:23.105>so <00:29:23.305>the, <00:29:23.504>so <00:29:23.705>the <00:29:23.905>Kai <00:29:24.105>villain <00:29:24.305>Yeah.

616
00:29:26.065 --> 00:29:30.845
<00:29:26.065>Um, <00:29:26.220>he <00:29:26.376>was <00:29:26.531>convinced <00:29:26.687>that, <00:29:26.842>um, <00:29:26.998>the <00:29:27.153>automobile <00:29:27.309>would <00:29:27.465>not,

617
00:29:31.735 --> 00:29:35.125
<00:29:31.735>would <00:29:31.890>not <00:29:32.046>really <00:29:32.201>be <00:29:32.357>something <00:29:32.512>place <00:29:32.668>to <00:29:32.823>horse <00:29:32.979>that, <00:29:33.135>um,

618
00:29:35.595 --> 00:29:37.085
<00:29:35.595>that <00:29:35.818>people <00:29:36.042>would <00:29:36.265>use <00:29:36.489>in <00:29:36.712>the <00:29:36.936>future.

619
00:29:37.115 --> 00:29:40.645
<00:29:37.115>Yeah. <00:29:37.255>He <00:29:37.395>was <00:29:37.535>convinced <00:29:37.675>that <00:29:37.815>the <00:29:37.955>horse <00:29:38.095>will <00:29:38.235>be <00:29:38.375>the <00:29:38.515>vehicle

620
00:29:40.835 --> 00:29:41.965
<00:29:40.835>that <00:29:41.174>people <00:29:41.513>will <00:29:41.851>use.

621
00:29:41.965 --> 00:29:45.805
<00:29:41.965>Yeah. <00:29:42.120>Um, <00:29:42.276>forever. <00:29:42.431>And <00:29:42.587>I <00:29:42.742>think <00:29:42.898>it's <00:29:43.053>the <00:29:43.209>same <00:29:43.365>with

622
00:29:46.385 --> 00:29:47.565
<00:29:46.385>what's <00:29:46.739>happening <00:29:47.093>right <00:29:47.447>now.

623
00:29:47.705 --> 00:29:52.365
<00:29:47.705>Mm. <00:29:47.860>Um, <00:29:48.016>everyone's <00:29:48.171>reading <00:29:48.327>about <00:29:48.482>Gene <00:29:48.638>AI <00:29:48.793>and <00:29:48.949>everyone <00:29:49.105>Yeah.

624
00:29:52.385 --> 00:29:53.805
<00:29:52.385>Is <00:29:52.598>trying <00:29:52.811>it <00:29:53.024>out <00:29:53.237>a <00:29:53.450>little <00:29:53.663>bit.

625
00:29:53.945 --> 00:29:57.125
<00:29:53.945>And <00:29:54.120>some <00:29:54.294>are <00:29:54.470>using <00:29:54.645>perplexity <00:29:54.820>or <00:29:54.995>other <00:29:55.169>tools <00:29:55.345>Yeah.

626
00:29:57.125 --> 00:30:01.485
<00:29:57.125>In <00:29:57.280>their <00:29:57.436>daily <00:29:57.591>life, <00:29:57.747>and <00:29:57.902>they <00:29:58.058>start, <00:29:58.213>um, <00:29:58.369>experiencing <00:29:58.525>it.

627
00:30:02.105 --> 00:30:05.125
<00:30:02.105>Um, <00:30:02.260>but <00:30:02.416>there <00:30:02.571>are <00:30:02.727>also <00:30:02.882>still <00:30:03.038>a <00:30:03.193>lot <00:30:03.349>of <00:30:03.505>people

628
00:30:05.225 --> 00:30:06.445
<00:30:05.225>who <00:30:05.444>think <00:30:05.664>it <00:30:05.883>will <00:30:06.103>go <00:30:06.322>away.

629
00:30:06.595 --> 00:30:10.005
<00:30:06.595>Yeah. <00:30:06.722>And <00:30:06.849>I <00:30:06.976>don't <00:30:07.104>believe <00:30:07.231>that, <00:30:07.358>I <00:30:07.485>believe <00:30:07.613>it's <00:30:07.740>here <00:30:07.867>to <00:30:07.995>say,

630
00:30:10.145 --> 00:30:12.005
<00:30:10.145>and, <00:30:10.345>and, <00:30:10.545>um, <00:30:10.745>I <00:30:10.945>think <00:30:11.145>we <00:30:11.345>will <00:30:11.545>need

631
00:30:12.005 --> 00:30:13.245
<00:30:12.005>to <00:30:12.284>adapt <00:30:12.563>rather <00:30:12.841>quickly, <00:30:13.120>maybe

632
00:30:13.245 --> 00:30:14.325
<00:30:13.245>To <00:30:13.439>introduce <00:30:13.633>me <00:30:13.828>to <00:30:14.022>these <00:30:14.217>guys.

633
00:30:15.075 --> 00:30:16.325
<00:30:15.075>Doesn't, <00:30:15.450>doesn't <00:30:15.825>make <00:30:16.200>sense.

634
00:30:16.475 --> 00:30:17.645
<00:30:16.475>What <00:30:16.826>I <00:30:17.177>often <00:30:17.528>hear,

635
00:30:18.065 --> 00:30:21.085
<00:30:18.065>or <00:30:18.220>what <00:30:18.376>I'm <00:30:18.531>often <00:30:18.687>asked <00:30:18.842>from, <00:30:18.998>you <00:30:19.153>know, <00:30:19.309>journalists, <00:30:19.465>media

636
00:30:21.105 --> 00:30:23.085
<00:30:21.105>and <00:30:21.280>so <00:30:21.455>on, <00:30:21.630>is <00:30:21.805>like, <00:30:21.980>Hey, <00:30:22.155>is <00:30:22.330>AI <00:30:22.505>going

637
00:30:23.185 --> 00:30:25.485
<00:30:23.185>to <00:30:23.418>take <00:30:23.651>away <00:30:23.885>the <00:30:24.118>jobs <00:30:24.351>of <00:30:24.585>developers?

638
00:30:26.065 --> 00:30:28.605
<00:30:26.065>And <00:30:26.220>many <00:30:26.376>people <00:30:26.531>are <00:30:26.687>kind <00:30:26.842>of <00:30:26.998>really <00:30:27.153>concerned <00:30:27.309>about <00:30:27.465>that,

639
00:30:28.705 --> 00:30:32.205
<00:30:28.705>but <00:30:28.985>like, <00:30:29.264>mostly <00:30:29.544>the <00:30:29.824>non-engineers, <00:30:30.105>um,

640
00:30:33.115 --> 00:30:34.405
<00:30:33.115>because <00:30:33.502>you <00:30:33.889>know <00:30:34.276>this

641
00:30:34.505 --> 00:30:36.205
<00:30:34.505>and <00:30:34.738>they <00:30:34.971>read <00:30:35.205>news <00:30:35.438>like, <00:30:35.671>you <00:30:35.905>know,

642
00:30:36.715 --> 00:30:38.445
<00:30:36.715>mark <00:30:37.181>Zuckerberg <00:30:37.648>said <00:30:38.115>something

643
00:30:38.665 --> 00:30:42.205
<00:30:38.665>and <00:30:38.865>some, <00:30:39.065>someone <00:30:39.264>differently <00:30:39.465>like, <00:30:39.665>said <00:30:39.865>like, <00:30:40.065>okay,

644
00:30:42.205 --> 00:30:47.005
<00:30:42.205>it's <00:30:42.438>taking, <00:30:42.671>it's <00:30:42.905>taking <00:30:43.138>40%, <00:30:43.371>50%, <00:30:43.605>15%,

645
00:30:47.005 --> 00:30:49.125
<00:30:47.005>70% <00:30:47.355>of <00:30:47.705>the <00:30:48.055>coding <00:30:48.405>away.

646
00:30:49.665 --> 00:30:51.365
<00:30:49.665>So <00:30:50.014>the <00:30:50.365>conclusion <00:30:50.715>is, <00:30:51.065>uh,

647
00:30:51.365 --> 00:30:52.965
<00:30:51.365>there <00:30:51.565>will <00:30:51.765>be <00:30:51.965>less <00:30:52.165>developers <00:30:52.365>in <00:30:52.565>the <00:30:52.765>future.

648
00:30:53.865 --> 00:30:57.365
<00:30:53.865>And, <00:30:54.005>uh, <00:30:54.145>then <00:30:54.285>I'm <00:30:54.425>always <00:30:54.565>kind <00:30:54.705>of <00:30:54.845>thinking <00:30:54.985>kind <00:30:55.125>of <00:30:55.265>like,

649
00:30:57.505 --> 00:30:59.325
<00:30:57.505>if <00:30:57.738>you <00:30:57.971>are <00:30:58.205>deeply <00:30:58.438>involved <00:30:58.671>in <00:30:58.905>technology

650
00:30:59.325 --> 00:31:02.405
<00:30:59.325>and <00:30:59.480>you, <00:30:59.636>you <00:30:59.791>know <00:30:59.947>how <00:31:00.102>it <00:31:00.258>works, <00:31:00.413>you <00:31:00.569>immediately <00:31:00.725>have

651
00:31:02.405 --> 00:31:05.285
<00:31:02.405>to <00:31:02.580>answer <00:31:02.754>that <00:31:02.930>basically <00:31:03.105>because <00:31:03.280>of <00:31:03.455>the <00:31:03.629>rising <00:31:03.805>demand.

652
00:31:05.455 --> 00:31:08.005
<00:31:05.455>Right. <00:31:05.688>You <00:31:05.921>will <00:31:06.155>need <00:31:06.388>more <00:31:06.621>people. <00:31:06.855>Right.

653
00:31:08.345 --> 00:31:09.885
<00:31:08.345>And <00:31:08.543>also <00:31:08.741>kind <00:31:08.939>of, <00:31:09.137>it <00:31:09.335>shows <00:31:09.533>a <00:31:09.731>bit

654
00:31:09.885 --> 00:31:12.085
<00:31:09.885>how <00:31:10.235>non-techies <00:31:10.585>think <00:31:10.935>about <00:31:11.285>techies

655
00:31:12.085 --> 00:31:15.725
<00:31:12.085>because <00:31:12.365>I <00:31:12.645>mean, <00:31:12.925>the <00:31:13.205>interface <00:31:13.485>of

656
00:31:15.785 --> 00:31:19.125
<00:31:15.785>how <00:31:15.960>you <00:31:16.135>tell <00:31:16.310>a <00:31:16.485>machine <00:31:16.660>how <00:31:16.835>to <00:31:17.010>do <00:31:17.185>something.

657
00:31:19.545 --> 00:31:22.285
<00:31:19.545>Yes. <00:31:19.700>It <00:31:19.856>is <00:31:20.011>maybe <00:31:20.167>in <00:31:20.322>the <00:31:20.478>past <00:31:20.633>years <00:31:20.789>it <00:31:20.945>was,

658
00:31:22.345 --> 00:31:24.125
<00:31:22.345>you <00:31:22.578>type <00:31:22.811>something <00:31:23.045>in, <00:31:23.278>in <00:31:23.511>a <00:31:23.745>keyboard.

659
00:31:24.805 --> 00:31:27.805
<00:31:24.805>I <00:31:24.932>mean, <00:31:25.059>50, <00:31:25.186>60, <00:31:25.314>70 <00:31:25.441>years <00:31:25.568>ago <00:31:25.695>you <00:31:25.823>didn't <00:31:25.950>have <00:31:26.077>a <00:31:26.205>keyboard.

660
00:31:28.225 --> 00:31:30.325
<00:31:28.225>You <00:31:28.574>had <00:31:28.925>this, <00:31:29.274>um, <00:31:29.625>cards.

661
00:31:31.745 --> 00:31:33.525
<00:31:31.745>Now <00:31:32.024>probably <00:31:32.304>like <00:31:32.584>with <00:31:32.864>GitHubs <00:31:33.145>Spark

662
00:31:33.525 --> 00:31:35.565
<00:31:33.525>and <00:31:33.652>so <00:31:33.779>on, <00:31:33.906>you <00:31:34.034>can <00:31:34.161>talk <00:31:34.288>to <00:31:34.415>the <00:31:34.543>machine <00:31:34.670>and <00:31:34.797>so <00:31:34.925>on.

663
00:31:35.565 --> 00:31:37.085
<00:31:35.565>Like, <00:31:35.838>people <00:31:36.112>I <00:31:36.385>think <00:31:36.659>don't <00:31:36.933>understand

664
00:31:37.115 --> 00:31:41.245
<00:31:37.115>that <00:31:37.270>coding <00:31:37.426>is <00:31:37.581>not <00:31:37.737>the <00:31:37.892>main, <00:31:38.048>uh, <00:31:38.203>like <00:31:38.359>writing <00:31:38.515>typing

665
00:31:42.085 --> 00:31:45.365
<00:31:42.085>commands <00:31:42.285>is <00:31:42.485>not <00:31:42.685>the <00:31:42.885>main <00:31:43.085>responsibility <00:31:43.285>of <00:31:43.485>developers.

666
00:31:45.705 --> 00:31:50.005
<00:31:45.705>And <00:31:45.832>I <00:31:45.959>have <00:31:46.086>not, <00:31:46.214>I <00:31:46.341>have <00:31:46.468>not <00:31:46.595>met <00:31:46.723>a <00:31:46.850>single <00:31:46.977>developer <00:31:47.105>engineer

667
00:31:50.065 --> 00:31:52.245
<00:31:50.065>so <00:31:50.240>far <00:31:50.415>who <00:31:50.590>said <00:31:50.765>like, <00:31:50.940>Hey, <00:31:51.115>I <00:31:51.290>really <00:31:51.465>fear

668
00:31:52.475 --> 00:31:53.685
<00:31:52.475>that <00:31:52.692>I <00:31:52.910>will <00:31:53.128>lose <00:31:53.346>my <00:31:53.563>job.

669
00:31:53.785 --> 00:31:56.085
<00:31:53.785>No, <00:31:53.912>me <00:31:54.039>neither. <00:31:54.166>I <00:31:54.294>mean, <00:31:54.421>they <00:31:54.548>can <00:31:54.675>fear <00:31:54.803>that <00:31:54.930>they, <00:31:55.057>you <00:31:55.185>know,

670
00:31:56.085 --> 00:31:57.325
<00:31:56.085>they <00:31:56.457>need <00:31:56.829>to <00:31:57.201>learn.

671
00:31:57.415 --> 00:32:00.565
<00:31:57.415>Right. <00:31:57.590>Because <00:31:57.764>otherwise <00:31:57.940>they, <00:31:58.115>they <00:31:58.290>will <00:31:58.465>not <00:31:58.639>stay <00:31:58.815>on,

672
00:32:00.585 --> 00:32:01.845
<00:32:00.585>on, <00:32:00.868>on <00:32:01.152>up <00:32:01.435>to <00:32:01.719>date.

673
00:32:02.105 --> 00:32:05.445
<00:32:02.105>But, <00:32:02.305>um, <00:32:02.505>but <00:32:02.705>maybe <00:32:02.905>I'm <00:32:03.105>seeing <00:32:03.305>it <00:32:03.505>differently

674
00:32:05.505 --> 00:32:08.285
<00:32:05.505>and <00:32:05.645>I <00:32:05.785>don't <00:32:05.925>know <00:32:06.065>what's, <00:32:06.205>what's <00:32:06.345>your <00:32:06.485>opinion <00:32:06.625>will <00:32:06.765>have <00:32:06.905>more

675
00:32:08.285 --> 00:32:10.605
<00:32:08.285>developers, <00:32:08.518>less <00:32:08.751>developers, <00:32:08.985>how <00:32:09.218>will <00:32:09.451>it <00:32:09.685>change?

676
00:32:11.025 --> 00:32:14.125
<00:32:11.025>So <00:32:11.165>I <00:32:11.305>think, <00:32:11.445>um, <00:32:11.585>the <00:32:11.725>role <00:32:11.865>of <00:32:12.005>a <00:32:12.145>developer <00:32:12.285>will <00:32:12.425>evolve.

677
00:32:14.125 --> 00:32:17.725
<00:32:14.125>Mm-hmm. <00:32:14.265>Um, <00:32:14.405>and <00:32:14.545>as <00:32:14.685>you <00:32:14.825>said, <00:32:14.965>the <00:32:15.105>demand <00:32:15.245>is <00:32:15.385>still <00:32:15.525>huge.

678
00:32:17.825 --> 00:32:19.685
<00:32:17.825>Mm-hmm. <00:32:18.175>So <00:32:18.525>especially <00:32:18.875>in <00:32:19.225>Germany,

679
00:32:19.895 --> 00:32:21.205
<00:32:19.895>we're <00:32:20.189>not <00:32:20.484>very <00:32:20.779>digital <00:32:21.073>yet.

680
00:32:21.205 --> 00:32:25.205
<00:32:21.205>Mm-hmm. <00:32:21.345>Um, <00:32:21.485>so, <00:32:21.625>and <00:32:21.764>I <00:32:21.905>think <00:32:22.044>in <00:32:22.185>Mercedes <00:32:22.324>we're <00:32:22.465>quite <00:32:22.605>okay.

681
00:32:25.625 --> 00:32:29.045
<00:32:25.625>Um, <00:32:25.752>but <00:32:25.879>compared <00:32:26.006>to <00:32:26.134>others, <00:32:26.261>we <00:32:26.388>still <00:32:26.515>also <00:32:26.643>have <00:32:26.770>a <00:32:26.897>long <00:32:27.025>way

682
00:32:29.045 --> 00:32:31.725
<00:32:29.045>to <00:32:29.278>go <00:32:29.511>and, <00:32:29.745>um, <00:32:29.978>in, <00:32:30.211>in <00:32:30.445>regards,

683
00:32:31.885 --> 00:32:33.325
<00:32:31.885>everything's <00:32:32.317>gonna <00:32:32.749>be <00:32:33.181>digital.

684
00:32:33.505 --> 00:32:35.525
<00:32:33.505>Mm-hmm. <00:32:33.738>And <00:32:33.971>we're <00:32:34.205>not <00:32:34.438>there <00:32:34.671>yet. <00:32:34.905>Yeah.

685
00:32:35.625 --> 00:32:37.645
<00:32:35.625>So <00:32:35.858>we <00:32:36.091>will <00:32:36.325>definitely <00:32:36.558>have <00:32:36.791>huge <00:32:37.025>demand.

686
00:32:38.385 --> 00:32:43.005
<00:32:38.385>And <00:32:38.560>the <00:32:38.735>more <00:32:38.910>the <00:32:39.085>technology <00:32:39.260>advances <00:32:39.435>that <00:32:39.610>helps <00:32:39.785>developers

687
00:32:43.005 --> 00:32:45.645
<00:32:43.005>to <00:32:43.180>be <00:32:43.355>quite <00:32:43.530>quicker <00:32:43.705>and <00:32:43.880>more <00:32:44.055>productive, <00:32:44.230>the <00:32:44.405>better.

688
00:32:45.915 --> 00:32:48.285
<00:32:45.915>Yeah. <00:32:46.115>Because <00:32:46.315>we <00:32:46.514>have <00:32:46.715>so <00:32:46.915>much <00:32:47.115>demand, <00:32:47.315>and

689
00:32:48.285 --> 00:32:51.365
<00:32:48.285>therefore <00:32:48.518>we <00:32:48.751>will <00:32:48.985>definitely <00:32:49.218>also <00:32:49.451>need <00:32:49.685>more

690
00:32:51.365 --> 00:32:52.565
<00:32:51.365>developers <00:32:51.725>to <00:32:52.085>help <00:32:52.445>us.

691
00:32:52.985 --> 00:32:56.205
<00:32:52.985>And <00:32:53.140>the <00:32:53.296>better <00:32:53.451>they <00:32:53.607>are <00:32:53.762>supported, <00:32:53.918>the <00:32:54.073>demand <00:32:54.229>can <00:32:54.385>be,

692
00:32:56.725 --> 00:32:57.925
<00:32:56.725>I <00:32:56.940>mean, <00:32:57.157>I <00:32:57.373>think <00:32:57.589>of <00:32:57.804>it,

693
00:32:57.945 --> 00:33:01.285
<00:32:57.945>if <00:32:58.100>if <00:32:58.256>productivity <00:32:58.411>goes <00:32:58.567>up <00:32:58.722>right <00:32:58.878>then, <00:32:59.033>then <00:32:59.189>probably, <00:32:59.345>um,

694
00:33:01.545 --> 00:33:03.925
<00:33:01.545>you <00:33:01.720>know, <00:33:01.895>the <00:33:02.070>cost <00:33:02.245>goes <00:33:02.420>down <00:33:02.595>of <00:33:02.770>software <00:33:02.945>development.

695
00:33:03.925 --> 00:33:06.085
<00:33:03.925>If <00:33:04.080>the <00:33:04.236>cost <00:33:04.391>of <00:33:04.547>software <00:33:04.702>development <00:33:04.858>goes <00:33:05.013>down, <00:33:05.169>I <00:33:05.325>mean,

696
00:33:06.605 --> 00:33:10.765
<00:33:06.605>I <00:33:06.745>have <00:33:06.885>myself, <00:33:07.025>for <00:33:07.165>me <00:33:07.305>personally, <00:33:07.445>like <00:33:07.585>tons <00:33:07.725>of <00:33:07.865>ideas <00:33:08.005>of

697
00:33:11.325 --> 00:33:13.365
<00:33:11.325>software <00:33:11.500>that <00:33:11.675>I <00:33:11.850>could <00:33:12.025>use, <00:33:12.200>that <00:33:12.375>I <00:33:12.550>could <00:33:12.725>need.

698
00:33:13.375 --> 00:33:16.005
<00:33:13.375>Right. <00:33:13.530>Absolutely. <00:33:13.686>It's <00:33:13.841>just <00:33:13.997>too <00:33:14.152>expensive <00:33:14.308>to <00:33:14.463>do <00:33:14.619>it. <00:33:14.775>Right.

699
00:33:16.345 --> 00:33:18.365
<00:33:16.345>Uh, <00:33:16.520>or <00:33:16.695>to <00:33:16.870>to <00:33:17.045>order <00:33:17.220>it <00:33:17.395>or <00:33:17.570>so. <00:33:17.745>Right.

700
00:33:18.785 --> 00:33:20.685
<00:33:18.785>So <00:33:19.065>basically <00:33:19.345>just, <00:33:19.625>I <00:33:19.905>think <00:33:20.185>that,

701
00:33:20.685 --> 00:33:24.975
<00:33:20.685>that <00:33:20.965>people <00:33:21.245>underestimate <00:33:21.524>the <00:33:21.804>demand <00:33:22.085>of

702
00:33:25.645 --> 00:33:28.335
<00:33:25.645>what <00:33:25.820>you <00:33:25.995>need <00:33:26.170>as <00:33:26.345>a <00:33:26.520>software <00:33:26.695>to <00:33:26.870>do <00:33:27.045>everything

703
00:33:28.335 --> 00:33:29.735
<00:33:28.335>that <00:33:28.755>we <00:33:29.175>all <00:33:29.594>want.

704
00:33:30.075 --> 00:33:33.215
<00:33:30.075>You <00:33:30.250>mentioned <00:33:30.425>digitalization, <00:33:30.600>uh, <00:33:30.775>you <00:33:30.950>know, <00:33:31.125>in <00:33:31.300>a <00:33:31.475>country,

705
00:33:33.355 --> 00:33:36.495
<00:33:33.355>in <00:33:33.635>companies, <00:33:33.915>digital <00:33:34.195>transformations, <00:33:34.475>personal <00:33:34.755>tools,

706
00:33:36.565 --> 00:33:38.055
<00:33:36.565>like <00:33:36.900>it's, <00:33:37.235>it's <00:33:37.570>never <00:33:37.906>ending.

707
00:33:38.225 --> 00:33:39.975
<00:33:38.225>Right. <00:33:38.458>I <00:33:38.691>think <00:33:38.925>it's <00:33:39.158>more <00:33:39.391>kind <00:33:39.625>of,

708
00:33:40.445 --> 00:33:44.215
<00:33:40.445>it's <00:33:40.620>gonna <00:33:40.794>become <00:33:40.970>at <00:33:41.145>some <00:33:41.320>point <00:33:41.495>easier <00:33:41.669>of, <00:33:41.845>um,

709
00:33:45.405 --> 00:33:47.095
<00:33:45.405>what <00:33:45.754>is <00:33:46.105>a <00:33:46.455>software <00:33:46.805>developer?

710
00:33:47.455 --> 00:33:50.455
<00:33:47.455>I <00:33:47.610>mean, <00:33:47.766>when <00:33:47.921>we <00:33:48.077>talk <00:33:48.232>about, <00:33:48.388>about, <00:33:48.543>about <00:33:48.699>real <00:33:48.855>developers,

711
00:33:50.515 --> 00:33:52.335
<00:33:50.515>we <00:33:50.795>say <00:33:51.075>developers <00:33:51.355>are <00:33:51.635>not <00:33:51.915>like,

712
00:33:52.335 --> 00:33:54.215
<00:33:52.335>we <00:33:52.535>don't <00:33:52.735>see <00:33:52.935>it <00:33:53.135>as <00:33:53.335>people <00:33:53.535>who <00:33:53.735>code.

713
00:33:54.245 --> 00:33:56.495
<00:33:54.245>It's <00:33:54.478>basically <00:33:54.711>people <00:33:54.945>who <00:33:55.178>built <00:33:55.411>something. <00:33:55.645>Right.

714
00:33:57.715 --> 00:34:02.295
<00:33:57.715>And <00:33:57.855>if <00:33:57.995>more <00:33:58.135>people <00:33:58.274>are <00:33:58.415>enabled <00:33:58.554>to <00:33:58.695>build <00:33:58.834>something, <00:33:58.975>no <00:33:59.115>matter

715
00:34:02.845 --> 00:34:05.735
<00:34:02.845>what <00:34:03.045>interface <00:34:03.245>they <00:34:03.445>use <00:34:03.645>for <00:34:03.845>us, <00:34:04.045>they're <00:34:04.245>developers.

716
00:34:05.785 --> 00:34:09.375
<00:34:05.785>Right. <00:34:05.940>And <00:34:06.096>like <00:34:06.251>Tom <00:34:06.407>Donker <00:34:06.562>with <00:34:06.718>vision <00:34:06.873>for <00:34:07.029>like, <00:34:07.185>kind

717
00:34:09.375 --> 00:34:10.455
<00:34:09.375>of <00:34:09.699>1 <00:34:10.023>billion <00:34:10.346>developers.

718
00:34:10.555 --> 00:34:12.535
<00:34:10.554>So <00:34:11.955>every,

719
00:34:12.575 --> 00:34:14.695
<00:34:12.574>everyone's <00:34:12.750>gonna <00:34:12.924>become <00:34:13.100>a <00:34:13.274>developer. <00:34:13.449>You <00:34:13.625>can <00:34:13.799>build <00:34:13.975>stuff.

720
00:34:14.875 --> 00:34:17.415
<00:34:14.875>Yes, <00:34:15.074>absolutely. <00:34:15.275>When <00:34:15.475>you <00:34:15.675>just, <00:34:15.875>you <00:34:16.074>know, <00:34:16.275>uh,

721
00:34:17.415 --> 00:34:19.975
<00:34:17.415>joined <00:34:17.614>Mercedeses <00:34:17.815>in <00:34:18.014>the <00:34:18.215>early <00:34:18.415>days, <00:34:18.614>the <00:34:18.815>onboarding

722
00:34:20.035 --> 00:34:22.495
<00:34:20.034>and <00:34:20.162>so <00:34:20.289>on, <00:34:20.416>was <00:34:20.544>there <00:34:20.671>a <00:34:20.798>moment <00:34:20.925>where <00:34:21.053>you <00:34:21.180>would <00:34:21.307>say <00:34:21.435>like,

723
00:34:22.515 --> 00:34:23.615
<00:34:22.514>Hey, <00:34:23.504>aha.

724
00:34:23.835 --> 00:34:25.295
<00:34:23.835>Wow. <00:34:24.097>Like <00:34:24.360>this <00:34:24.623>kind <00:34:24.886>of <00:34:25.149>moment

725
00:34:25.305 --> 00:34:27.135
<00:34:25.304>where <00:34:25.654>you <00:34:26.004>been <00:34:26.355>really <00:34:26.705>surprised

726
00:34:27.195 --> 00:34:29.135
<00:34:27.195>and <00:34:27.428>didn't <00:34:27.661>expect <00:34:27.895>that, <00:34:28.128>that <00:34:28.361>this <00:34:28.595>company,

727
00:34:30.045 --> 00:34:31.855
<00:34:30.045>Well, <00:34:30.245>I'm <00:34:30.445>not <00:34:30.645>sure <00:34:30.845>if <00:34:31.045>I <00:34:31.245>expected <00:34:31.445>it,

728
00:34:31.875 --> 00:34:34.975
<00:34:31.875>but <00:34:31.982>I <00:34:32.090>think <00:34:32.198>the <00:34:32.305>moment <00:34:32.413>where <00:34:32.521>I <00:34:32.628>sat <00:34:32.736>in <00:34:32.844>the <00:34:32.951>car <00:34:33.059>in <00:34:33.167>Mund <00:34:33.275>Dion

729
00:34:35.405 --> 00:34:38.095
<00:34:35.405>with, <00:34:35.580>um, <00:34:35.755>this <00:34:35.930>helmet <00:34:36.105>on <00:34:36.280>my, <00:34:36.455>on <00:34:36.630>my <00:34:36.805>head,

730
00:34:38.235 --> 00:34:43.175
<00:34:38.235>and <00:34:38.362>we <00:34:38.489>drove, <00:34:38.616>I <00:34:38.744>don't <00:34:38.871>know, <00:34:38.998>350 <00:34:39.125>around <00:34:39.253>the <00:34:39.380>track, <00:34:39.507>um, <00:34:39.635>and,

731
00:34:43.275 --> 00:34:46.215
<00:34:43.275>and <00:34:43.475>then <00:34:43.675>afterwards <00:34:43.875>directly <00:34:44.075>jumping <00:34:44.275>into <00:34:44.475>a <00:34:44.675>car

732
00:34:46.215 --> 00:34:48.935
<00:34:46.215>that <00:34:46.565>did <00:34:46.915>those <00:34:47.265>things, <00:34:47.615>um,

733
00:34:49.155 --> 00:34:51.415
<00:34:49.155>on <00:34:49.355>its <00:34:49.555>own <00:34:49.755>without <00:34:49.955>a <00:34:50.155>driver <00:34:50.355>in <00:34:50.555>it.

734
00:34:51.415 --> 00:34:53.815
<00:34:51.415>Mm-hmm. <00:34:51.648>That <00:34:51.881>was <00:34:52.114>quite <00:34:52.348>amazing. <00:34:52.581>Okay, <00:34:52.815>cool.

735
00:34:53.835 --> 00:34:57.375
<00:34:53.835>And <00:34:53.975>you <00:34:54.115>need <00:34:54.255>a <00:34:54.395>lot <00:34:54.534>of <00:34:54.675>software <00:34:54.815>developers <00:34:54.955>for, <00:34:55.095>for <00:34:55.235>Aada.

736
00:34:57.675 --> 00:35:01.055
<00:34:57.675>Um, <00:34:57.802>so <00:34:57.929>that <00:34:58.056>was <00:34:58.184>really <00:34:58.311>amazing <00:34:58.438>and <00:34:58.565>I <00:34:58.693>was <00:34:58.820>quite <00:34:58.947>blown <00:34:59.075>away.

737
00:35:01.115 --> 00:35:03.775
<00:35:01.115>And, <00:35:01.254>um, <00:35:01.395>I <00:35:01.535>was <00:35:01.674>a <00:35:01.814>little <00:35:01.955>bit <00:35:02.095>shaking <00:35:02.234>afterwards. <00:35:02.375>Yeah. <00:35:02.515>Yeah.

738
00:35:04.215 --> 00:35:07.095
<00:35:04.215>I <00:35:04.331>took <00:35:04.448>a <00:35:04.565>look <00:35:04.681>a <00:35:04.798>bit <00:35:04.915>about <00:35:05.031>these <00:35:05.148>kind <00:35:05.265>of <00:35:05.381>ai, <00:35:05.498>uh, <00:35:05.615>systems.

739
00:35:07.285 --> 00:35:10.215
<00:35:07.285>They <00:35:07.484>basically <00:35:07.685>kind <00:35:07.884>of, <00:35:08.085>with <00:35:08.285>every, <00:35:08.484>every, <00:35:08.685>uh,

740
00:35:10.215 --> 00:35:11.735
<00:35:10.215>every <00:35:10.410>round <00:35:10.605>they <00:35:10.801>kind <00:35:10.996>of, <00:35:11.192>you <00:35:11.387>know, <00:35:11.583>learn

741
00:35:11.795 --> 00:35:13.415
<00:35:11.795>and <00:35:12.028>then <00:35:12.261>they <00:35:12.495>can, <00:35:12.728>you <00:35:12.961>know, <00:35:13.195>yes.

742
00:35:13.955 --> 00:35:15.495
<00:35:13.955>Become <00:35:14.232>faster <00:35:14.509>and <00:35:14.786>faster <00:35:15.063>and <00:35:15.341>faster.

743
00:35:15.515 --> 00:35:16.575
<00:35:15.515>And <00:35:15.753>that's <00:35:15.991>super <00:35:16.230>interesting <00:35:16.469>to,

744
00:35:16.875 --> 00:35:17.875
<00:35:16.875>To <00:35:17.003>watch. <00:35:17.132>And <00:35:17.260>if <00:35:17.389>you <00:35:17.517>sit <00:35:17.646>in <00:35:17.775>there

745
00:35:17.875 --> 00:35:19.495
<00:35:17.875>and <00:35:18.108>then <00:35:18.341>you're <00:35:18.575>like, <00:35:18.808>oh <00:35:19.041>my <00:35:19.275>gosh,

746
00:35:19.515 --> 00:35:20.575
<00:35:19.515>oh <00:35:19.753>my <00:35:19.991>gosh, <00:35:20.230>what's <00:35:20.469>happening?

747
00:35:21.075 --> 00:35:23.255
<00:35:21.075>So <00:35:21.355>yeah, <00:35:21.634>it's <00:35:21.915>kind <00:35:22.194>of <00:35:22.475>amazing.

748
00:35:23.365 --> 00:35:26.855
<00:35:23.365>Yeah. <00:35:23.504>Um, <00:35:23.645>maybe <00:35:23.785>to, <00:35:23.924>to <00:35:24.064>come <00:35:24.205>slowly <00:35:24.345>to <00:35:24.484>an <00:35:24.625>ending, <00:35:24.765>um,

749
00:35:29.025 --> 00:35:30.565
<00:35:29.025>we <00:35:29.223>have <00:35:29.421>to <00:35:29.619>talk <00:35:29.817>a <00:35:30.015>bit <00:35:30.213>about <00:35:30.411>it,

750
00:35:30.705 --> 00:35:32.325
<00:35:30.705>at <00:35:30.938>least <00:35:31.171>a, <00:35:31.404>a <00:35:31.638>sentence <00:35:31.871>or <00:35:32.105>two.

751
00:35:32.425 --> 00:35:36.605
<00:35:32.425>Um, <00:35:32.565>uh, <00:35:32.705>currently, <00:35:32.845>like <00:35:32.985>the <00:35:33.125>role <00:35:33.265>is <00:35:33.405>a <00:35:33.545>bit <00:35:33.685>going <00:35:33.825>crazy.

752
00:35:37.065 --> 00:35:40.765
<00:35:37.065>Um, <00:35:37.220>one <00:35:37.376>thing <00:35:37.531>that, <00:35:37.687>that <00:35:37.842>probably <00:35:37.998>for <00:35:38.153>us <00:35:38.309>working <00:35:38.465>in,

753
00:35:40.765 --> 00:35:44.845
<00:35:40.765>in <00:35:40.904>the <00:35:41.045>technology <00:35:41.185>sector <00:35:41.325>often <00:35:41.464>is <00:35:41.605>kind <00:35:41.745>of <00:35:41.884>a <00:35:42.025>concern <00:35:42.165>is

754
00:35:44.845 --> 00:35:47.325
<00:35:44.845>that <00:35:45.044>we, <00:35:45.245>in <00:35:45.444>Europe, <00:35:45.645>kind <00:35:45.845>of, <00:35:46.044>uh, <00:35:46.245>knowing

755
00:35:47.325 --> 00:35:48.605
<00:35:47.325>that <00:35:47.613>you're <00:35:47.901>a <00:35:48.189>global <00:35:48.477>organization,

756
00:35:48.625 --> 00:35:50.965
<00:35:48.625>but <00:35:48.800>especially <00:35:48.975>we <00:35:49.150>in <00:35:49.325>Europe <00:35:49.500>on <00:35:49.675>the <00:35:49.850>old <00:35:50.025>continent,

757
00:35:50.965 --> 00:35:53.725
<00:35:50.965>we <00:35:51.140>often <00:35:51.315>have <00:35:51.490>the <00:35:51.665>feeling <00:35:51.840>we <00:35:52.015>lack <00:35:52.190>behind, <00:35:52.365>uh,

758
00:35:54.025 --> 00:35:57.045
<00:35:54.025>in <00:35:54.200>certain <00:35:54.375>areas, <00:35:54.550>be <00:35:54.725>it, <00:35:54.900>uh, <00:35:55.075>you <00:35:55.250>know, <00:35:55.425>technology,

759
00:35:57.045 --> 00:35:58.925
<00:35:57.045>innovation, <00:35:57.395>ai, <00:35:57.745>things <00:35:58.095>like <00:35:58.445>that.

760
00:35:59.865 --> 00:36:02.285
<00:35:59.865>Um, <00:36:00.145>do <00:36:00.424>you <00:36:00.705>agree <00:36:00.984>with <00:36:01.265>that?

761
00:36:02.665 --> 00:36:05.805
<00:36:02.665>Um, <00:36:02.820>is <00:36:02.976>that <00:36:03.131>just <00:36:03.287>an <00:36:03.442>impression <00:36:03.598>that <00:36:03.753>we <00:36:03.909>have <00:36:04.065>ourselves?

762
00:36:05.985 --> 00:36:10.005
<00:36:05.985>And <00:36:06.085>if <00:36:06.185>you, <00:36:06.285>if <00:36:06.385>you <00:36:06.485>would <00:36:06.585>say <00:36:06.685>it <00:36:06.785>is <00:36:06.885>true, <00:36:06.985>what <00:36:07.085>is <00:36:07.185>the <00:36:07.285>kind <00:36:07.385>of

763
00:36:10.615 --> 00:36:12.845
<00:36:10.615>thing <00:36:10.848>that <00:36:11.081>we <00:36:11.314>need <00:36:11.548>to <00:36:11.781>change <00:36:12.015>that?

764
00:36:12.875 --> 00:36:14.685
<00:36:12.875>Like <00:36:13.050>what <00:36:13.225>are <00:36:13.400>we <00:36:13.575>missing? <00:36:13.750>Is <00:36:13.925>it <00:36:14.100>the <00:36:14.275>spirit?

765
00:36:14.945 --> 00:36:17.685
<00:36:14.945>Is <00:36:15.120>it, <00:36:15.295>is <00:36:15.470>it <00:36:15.645>the <00:36:15.820>money? <00:36:15.995>Is <00:36:16.170>it, <00:36:16.345>uh,

766
00:36:18.585 --> 00:36:19.685
<00:36:18.585>Um, <00:36:18.915>yeah. <00:36:19.245>So <00:36:19.575>what

767
00:36:19.685 --> 00:36:20.685
<00:36:19.685>Can <00:36:19.910>we <00:36:20.134>do <00:36:20.360>about <00:36:20.585>it?

768
00:36:20.705 --> 00:36:24.485
<00:36:20.705>So <00:36:20.832>I <00:36:20.959>was <00:36:21.086>part <00:36:21.214>of <00:36:21.341>the <00:36:21.468>EUAI, <00:36:21.595>um, <00:36:21.723>summit <00:36:21.850>in <00:36:21.977>Paris. <00:36:22.105>Mm-hmm.

769
00:36:24.985 --> 00:36:27.445
<00:36:24.985>And <00:36:25.185>funny <00:36:25.385>story, <00:36:25.585>I, <00:36:25.785>I, <00:36:25.985>uh, <00:36:26.185>drove <00:36:26.385>there

770
00:36:27.585 --> 00:36:28.965
<00:36:27.585>and <00:36:27.895>I <00:36:28.206>was <00:36:28.516>um, <00:36:28.827>running

771
00:36:28.965 --> 00:36:31.125
<00:36:28.965>around <00:36:29.198>in <00:36:29.431>Paris <00:36:29.665>looking <00:36:29.898>for <00:36:30.131>the <00:36:30.365>entrance.

772
00:36:31.745 --> 00:36:33.405
<00:36:31.745>And <00:36:32.025>someone <00:36:32.305>else <00:36:32.585>was <00:36:32.865>also <00:36:33.145>running

773
00:36:33.405 --> 00:36:34.725
<00:36:33.405>around <00:36:33.702>looking <00:36:33.999>for <00:36:34.296>the <00:36:34.593>entrance.

774
00:36:34.745 --> 00:36:37.525
<00:36:34.745>We <00:36:34.944>were <00:36:35.145>talking, <00:36:35.345>he <00:36:35.545>came <00:36:35.745>from <00:36:35.944>MIT <00:36:36.145>mm-hmm.

775
00:36:37.945 --> 00:36:40.685
<00:36:37.945>And <00:36:38.120>he <00:36:38.295>was <00:36:38.470>a <00:36:38.645>guy <00:36:38.820>from <00:36:38.995>Sweden. <00:36:39.170>Yeah. <00:36:39.345>Yeah.

776
00:36:41.265 --> 00:36:45.445
<00:36:41.265>And <00:36:41.404>he <00:36:41.545>was <00:36:41.685>a <00:36:41.825>professor <00:36:41.964>at <00:36:42.105>MIT <00:36:42.245>and <00:36:42.384>we <00:36:42.525>started <00:36:42.665>talking.

777
00:36:45.745 --> 00:36:50.085
<00:36:45.745>And <00:36:45.884>I <00:36:46.025>think <00:36:46.165>we <00:36:46.305>have <00:36:46.444>lots <00:36:46.585>of <00:36:46.725>really, <00:36:46.865>really <00:36:47.005>well <00:36:47.145>educated,

778
00:36:50.225 --> 00:36:54.725
<00:36:50.225>really <00:36:50.400>awesome, <00:36:50.575>cool <00:36:50.750>people <00:36:50.924>in <00:36:51.100>Europe, <00:36:51.275>but <00:36:51.450>then <00:36:51.625>they

779
00:36:54.755 --> 00:36:56.965
<00:36:54.755>Work <00:36:54.988>Abroad, <00:36:55.221>they <00:36:55.455>go <00:36:55.688>to <00:36:55.921>the <00:36:56.155>US

780
00:36:57.025 --> 00:36:58.285
<00:36:57.025>or <00:36:57.308>somewhere <00:36:57.592>else <00:36:57.875>to <00:36:58.158>work.

781
00:36:59.025 --> 00:37:00.925
<00:36:59.025>Why <00:36:59.180>is <00:36:59.336>that? <00:36:59.491>I <00:36:59.647>think <00:36:59.802>that <00:36:59.958>we <00:37:00.113>need <00:37:00.269>to <00:37:00.425>change

782
00:37:00.925 --> 00:37:03.605
<00:37:00.925>because <00:37:01.100>we <00:37:01.275>have <00:37:01.450>good <00:37:01.625>education, <00:37:01.800>we <00:37:01.975>have <00:37:02.150>cool <00:37:02.325>people,

783
00:37:04.025 --> 00:37:06.725
<00:37:04.025>we <00:37:04.225>have <00:37:04.425>innovation, <00:37:04.625>we <00:37:04.825>have <00:37:05.025>cool <00:37:05.225>ideas, <00:37:05.425>social

784
00:37:07.005 --> 00:37:08.205
<00:37:07.005>Security, <00:37:07.185>we <00:37:07.365>have <00:37:07.545>all <00:37:07.725>of <00:37:07.905>these <00:37:08.085>things.

785
00:37:08.545 --> 00:37:10.605
<00:37:08.545>Yes. <00:37:08.720>And, <00:37:08.895>but <00:37:09.070>what <00:37:09.245>do <00:37:09.420>we <00:37:09.595>need <00:37:09.770>to <00:37:09.945>change?

786
00:37:10.705 --> 00:37:13.125
<00:37:10.705>We <00:37:10.938>need <00:37:11.171>to <00:37:11.404>change <00:37:11.638>the <00:37:11.871>investment. <00:37:12.105>Yeah.

787
00:37:13.505 --> 00:37:15.005
<00:37:13.505>So <00:37:13.775>I <00:37:14.045>think, <00:37:14.315>um, <00:37:14.585>in <00:37:14.855>Europe,

788
00:37:15.105 --> 00:37:17.485
<00:37:15.105>the <00:37:15.338>investments <00:37:15.571>are <00:37:15.805>still <00:37:16.038>not <00:37:16.271>going <00:37:16.505>enough

789
00:37:17.755 --> 00:37:18.765
<00:37:17.755>into <00:37:18.058>the <00:37:18.361>tech <00:37:18.663>sector.

790
00:37:18.825 --> 00:37:21.845
<00:37:18.825>Mm-hmm. <00:37:18.980>So <00:37:19.136>I <00:37:19.291>think <00:37:19.447>we <00:37:19.602>need <00:37:19.758>more <00:37:19.913>focus <00:37:20.069>on <00:37:20.225>it.

791
00:37:22.005 --> 00:37:23.085
<00:37:22.005>I <00:37:22.199>think <00:37:22.393>it's <00:37:22.588>a <00:37:22.782>starting <00:37:22.977>point

792
00:37:23.085 --> 00:37:26.525
<00:37:23.085>that <00:37:23.260>finally <00:37:23.435>we <00:37:23.610>have <00:37:23.785>a <00:37:23.960>digital, <00:37:24.135>um, <00:37:24.310>ministerium <00:37:24.485>in,

793
00:37:26.525 --> 00:37:28.165
<00:37:26.525>in <00:37:26.875>Germany <00:37:27.225>now <00:37:27.575>That's <00:37:27.925>good.

794
00:37:28.345 --> 00:37:32.125
<00:37:28.345>Um, <00:37:28.472>with <00:37:28.599>lots <00:37:28.726>of, <00:37:28.854>um, <00:37:28.981>so, <00:37:29.108>so <00:37:29.235>I <00:37:29.363>checked <00:37:29.490>some <00:37:29.617>of <00:37:29.745>the,

795
00:37:32.745 --> 00:37:33.805
<00:37:32.745>the <00:37:33.221>guardrails <00:37:33.698>there.

796
00:37:34.165 --> 00:37:36.925
<00:37:34.165>I <00:37:34.340>think <00:37:34.515>it's <00:37:34.690>going <00:37:34.865>into <00:37:35.040>the <00:37:35.215>right <00:37:35.390>direction, <00:37:35.565>partnering

797
00:37:36.925 --> 00:37:39.045
<00:37:36.925>with <00:37:37.391>France <00:37:37.858>even <00:37:38.325>closer

798
00:37:39.155 --> 00:37:41.125
<00:37:39.155>because <00:37:39.435>they <00:37:39.715>have <00:37:39.995>also <00:37:40.275>lots <00:37:40.555>of

799
00:37:41.755 --> 00:37:44.045
<00:37:41.755>very <00:37:41.988>cool <00:37:42.221>startups <00:37:42.455>and, <00:37:42.688>and <00:37:42.921>good <00:37:43.155>ideas.

800
00:37:44.145 --> 00:37:47.765
<00:37:44.145>Mm-hmm. <00:37:44.320>They <00:37:44.495>have <00:37:44.670>already <00:37:44.845>focused <00:37:45.020>from <00:37:45.195>a <00:37:45.370>governmental <00:37:45.545>per

801
00:37:47.765 --> 00:37:51.885
<00:37:47.765>perspective <00:37:47.920>way <00:37:48.076>more <00:37:48.231>in <00:37:48.387>the <00:37:48.542>tech <00:37:48.698>sector <00:37:48.853>as <00:37:49.009>ion <00:37:49.165>Neff

802
00:37:52.505 --> 00:37:54.605
<00:37:52.505>is <00:37:52.680>the <00:37:52.855>place <00:37:53.030>where <00:37:53.205>all <00:37:53.380>the <00:37:53.555>startups <00:37:53.730>are <00:37:53.905>meeting

803
00:37:55.105 --> 00:37:56.765
<00:37:55.105>and <00:37:55.385>have <00:37:55.665>an <00:37:55.945>environment <00:37:56.225>to <00:37:56.505>grow.

804
00:37:57.385 --> 00:38:01.125
<00:37:57.385>Mr. <00:37:57.540>AI <00:37:57.696>is <00:37:57.851>a <00:37:58.007>great <00:37:58.162>example <00:37:58.318>of <00:37:58.473>a <00:37:58.629>European <00:37:58.785>company

805
00:38:01.275 --> 00:38:03.365
<00:38:01.275>that <00:38:01.555>has <00:38:01.835>played <00:38:02.115>a <00:38:02.395>crucial <00:38:02.675>role,

806
00:38:03.785 --> 00:38:06.285
<00:38:03.785>but <00:38:03.912>I <00:38:04.039>think <00:38:04.166>we <00:38:04.294>just <00:38:04.421>need <00:38:04.548>to <00:38:04.675>team <00:38:04.803>up <00:38:04.930>better <00:38:05.057>in <00:38:05.185>Europe.

807
00:38:06.315 --> 00:38:08.205
<00:38:06.315>Yeah. <00:38:06.548>I <00:38:06.781>think <00:38:07.015>we <00:38:07.248>have <00:38:07.481>the <00:38:07.715>knowledge,

808
00:38:08.665 --> 00:38:10.685
<00:38:08.665>we <00:38:08.898>have <00:38:09.131>the <00:38:09.365>people, <00:38:09.598>we <00:38:09.831>need <00:38:10.065>more

809
00:38:10.685 --> 00:38:12.565
<00:38:10.685>investment. <00:38:10.965>I <00:38:11.245>think. <00:38:11.525>I <00:38:11.805>think <00:38:12.085>people,

810
00:38:12.565 --> 00:38:13.845
<00:38:12.565>What's <00:38:12.949>hindering <00:38:13.333>the <00:38:13.716>investments?

811
00:38:13.865 --> 00:38:18.325
<00:38:13.865>Is <00:38:14.004>it, <00:38:14.145>is <00:38:14.285>it, <00:38:14.424>you <00:38:14.564>know, <00:38:14.705>things <00:38:14.845>like <00:38:14.984>regulation <00:38:15.125>which <00:38:15.265>needs

812
00:38:18.325 --> 00:38:22.085
<00:38:18.325>to <00:38:18.480>maybe <00:38:18.636>some <00:38:18.791>uncertainty <00:38:18.947>at <00:38:19.102>some <00:38:19.258>point? <00:38:19.413>Or <00:38:19.569>what <00:38:19.725>is

813
00:38:22.605 --> 00:38:23.805
<00:38:22.605>I <00:38:22.875>think <00:38:23.145>it's <00:38:23.415>a <00:38:23.685>combination.

814
00:38:24.045 --> 00:38:25.485
<00:38:24.045>I <00:38:24.261>think <00:38:24.477>it's <00:38:24.693>a <00:38:24.909>lots <00:38:25.125>of <00:38:25.341>regulation,

815
00:38:25.545 --> 00:38:27.205
<00:38:25.545>but <00:38:25.778>I <00:38:26.011>think <00:38:26.245>it's <00:38:26.478>also <00:38:26.711>cultural <00:38:26.945>topic.

816
00:38:27.355 --> 00:38:29.565
<00:38:27.355>Yeah. <00:38:27.705>So <00:38:28.055>people, <00:38:28.405>and, <00:38:28.755>and,

817
00:38:29.565 --> 00:38:32.005
<00:38:29.565>and <00:38:29.765>I <00:38:29.965>discussed <00:38:30.165>that <00:38:30.365>with <00:38:30.565>my <00:38:30.765>US <00:38:30.965>colleagues.

818
00:38:32.185 --> 00:38:33.485
<00:38:32.185>People <00:38:32.575>in <00:38:32.965>Germany <00:38:33.355>and

819
00:38:33.505 --> 00:38:35.925
<00:38:33.505>and <00:38:33.680>Europe <00:38:33.855>are <00:38:34.030>maybe <00:38:34.205>a <00:38:34.380>little <00:38:34.555>bit <00:38:34.730>more <00:38:34.905>conservative.

820
00:38:36.355 --> 00:38:40.285
<00:38:36.355>They <00:38:36.530>would <00:38:36.705>rather <00:38:36.880>invest <00:38:37.055>into <00:38:37.230>housing <00:38:37.405>than <00:38:37.580>into <00:38:37.755>tech.

821
00:38:41.225 --> 00:38:42.725
<00:38:41.225>And <00:38:41.562>I <00:38:41.900>think <00:38:42.237>therefore, <00:38:42.575>um,

822
00:38:42.825 --> 00:38:46.045
<00:38:42.825>and <00:38:42.964>I <00:38:43.105>think <00:38:43.245>in, <00:38:43.384>in <00:38:43.524>other <00:38:43.665>areas <00:38:43.805>of <00:38:43.944>the <00:38:44.085>world, <00:38:44.225>um,

823
00:38:46.475 --> 00:38:48.245
<00:38:46.475>this <00:38:46.650>is <00:38:46.825>a <00:38:47.000>little <00:38:47.174>bit <00:38:47.350>of <00:38:47.525>a <00:38:47.700>different <00:38:47.875>mindset.

824
00:38:48.465 --> 00:38:49.965
<00:38:48.465>So <00:38:48.633>I <00:38:48.802>think <00:38:48.971>we <00:38:49.140>need <00:38:49.308>to <00:38:49.477>switch <00:38:49.646>gears <00:38:49.815>here

825
00:38:50.345 --> 00:38:51.645
<00:38:50.345>and <00:38:50.578>we <00:38:50.812>need <00:38:51.047>to <00:38:51.281>team <00:38:51.515>up.

826
00:38:52.465 --> 00:38:55.445
<00:38:52.465>And <00:38:52.620>I <00:38:52.776>think <00:38:52.931>we <00:38:53.087>have <00:38:53.242>lots <00:38:53.398>of <00:38:53.553>great <00:38:53.709>skills <00:38:53.865>here

827
00:38:55.555 --> 00:38:57.405
<00:38:55.555>that <00:38:55.754>we <00:38:55.955>can <00:38:56.154>never <00:38:56.355>achieve <00:38:56.555>and <00:38:56.754>better. <00:38:56.955>Yeah.

828
00:38:57.625 --> 00:38:59.645
<00:38:57.625>Do <00:38:57.752>we <00:38:57.879>need <00:38:58.006>to <00:38:58.134>be <00:38:58.261>a <00:38:58.388>bit <00:38:58.515>more <00:38:58.643>kind <00:38:58.770>of, <00:38:58.897>you <00:38:59.025>know,

829
00:38:59.775 --> 00:39:02.805
<00:38:59.775>risky <00:38:59.902>in <00:39:00.029>the <00:39:00.156>sense <00:39:00.284>of, <00:39:00.411>I <00:39:00.538>often <00:39:00.665>also <00:39:00.793>have <00:39:00.920>the <00:39:01.047>feeling <00:39:01.175>working

830
00:39:02.805 --> 00:39:05.325
<00:39:02.805>with <00:39:03.271>European, <00:39:03.738>uh, <00:39:04.205>companies

831
00:39:05.325 --> 00:39:08.365
<00:39:05.325>and <00:39:05.441>partners <00:39:05.558>that <00:39:05.674>we <00:39:05.791>are <00:39:05.908>kind <00:39:06.024>of, <00:39:06.141>we <00:39:06.258>want <00:39:06.375>to <00:39:06.491>know <00:39:06.608>the <00:39:06.725>result

832
00:39:08.365 --> 00:39:09.965
<00:39:08.365>of <00:39:08.714>something <00:39:09.064>in <00:39:09.415>advance, <00:39:09.765>right?

833
00:39:10.305 --> 00:39:13.445
<00:39:10.305>Yes. <00:39:10.460>Which <00:39:10.616>I <00:39:10.771>don't <00:39:10.927>think <00:39:11.082>is <00:39:11.238>how <00:39:11.393>innovation <00:39:11.549>often <00:39:11.705>rocks.

834
00:39:13.625 --> 00:39:16.125
<00:39:13.625>You <00:39:13.825>have <00:39:14.025>to <00:39:14.225>risk <00:39:14.425>also <00:39:14.625>to <00:39:14.825>fail, <00:39:15.025>um,

835
00:39:16.275 --> 00:39:17.805
<00:39:16.275>that <00:39:16.471>you <00:39:16.668>see <00:39:16.865>in <00:39:17.061>the <00:39:17.258>us <00:39:17.455>you <00:39:17.652>know,

836
00:39:18.505 --> 00:39:19.925
<00:39:18.505>And <00:39:18.687>maybe <00:39:18.870>you <00:39:19.052>need <00:39:19.235>a <00:39:19.417>little <00:39:19.600>bit <00:39:19.783>more

837
00:39:19.925 --> 00:39:21.845
<00:39:19.925>female <00:39:20.391>founders <00:39:20.858>that <00:39:21.325>Right.

838
00:39:21.945 --> 00:39:24.965
<00:39:21.945>Um, <00:39:22.085>because <00:39:22.225>better <00:39:22.365>Ben <00:39:22.505>for <00:39:22.645>example, <00:39:22.785>she <00:39:22.925>was <00:39:23.065>the <00:39:23.205>one <00:39:23.345>ensuring

839
00:39:25.715 --> 00:39:26.805
<00:39:25.715>that, <00:39:26.042>um, <00:39:26.369>the <00:39:26.696>car

840
00:39:27.155 --> 00:39:31.085
<00:39:27.155>that <00:39:27.330>her <00:39:27.505>husband <00:39:27.680>created <00:39:27.855>would <00:39:28.030>be <00:39:28.205>put <00:39:28.380>into <00:39:28.555>action.

841
00:39:31.225 --> 00:39:33.645
<00:39:31.225>And <00:39:31.400>I <00:39:31.575>think <00:39:31.750>we <00:39:31.924>see <00:39:32.100>the <00:39:32.275>same <00:39:32.450>in <00:39:32.625>some

842
00:39:33.645 --> 00:39:35.125
<00:39:33.645>of <00:39:33.911>the <00:39:34.177>tech <00:39:34.444>areas <00:39:34.710>these <00:39:34.977>days.

843
00:39:35.315 --> 00:39:38.085
<00:39:35.315>Yeah. <00:39:35.490>Yeah. <00:39:35.665>What <00:39:35.840>are <00:39:36.015>some <00:39:36.190>advice <00:39:36.365>for <00:39:36.540>young <00:39:36.715>folks

844
00:39:38.745 --> 00:39:42.645
<00:39:38.745>in <00:39:38.978>general, <00:39:39.211>also <00:39:39.444>for <00:39:39.678>young <00:39:39.911>girls, <00:39:40.145>women

845
00:39:43.705 --> 00:39:45.645
<00:39:43.705>to <00:39:43.985>who <00:39:44.265>want <00:39:44.545>to, <00:39:44.825>you <00:39:45.105>know,

846
00:39:45.915 --> 00:39:48.165
<00:39:45.915>grow <00:39:46.115>into <00:39:46.315>a <00:39:46.515>leadership <00:39:46.715>position <00:39:46.915>like <00:39:47.115>your <00:39:47.315>us

847
00:39:48.955 --> 00:39:50.165
<00:39:48.955>that <00:39:49.227>you <00:39:49.499>can <00:39:49.771>give <00:39:50.044>them.

848
00:39:50.325 --> 00:39:52.605
<00:39:50.325>I <00:39:50.480>mean, <00:39:50.636>you <00:39:50.791>probably, <00:39:50.947>if <00:39:51.102>you <00:39:51.258>want <00:39:51.413>or <00:39:51.569>not, <00:39:51.725>but,

849
00:39:52.945 --> 00:39:54.965
<00:39:52.945>but <00:39:53.120>you <00:39:53.295>probably <00:39:53.470>serve <00:39:53.645>also <00:39:53.820>as <00:39:53.995>a <00:39:54.170>role <00:39:54.345>model

850
00:39:55.185 --> 00:39:56.445
<00:39:55.185>for, <00:39:55.468>for <00:39:55.752>other <00:39:56.035>young <00:39:56.319>people.

851
00:39:57.145 --> 00:40:00.045
<00:39:57.145>So <00:39:57.300>what's <00:39:57.456>some, <00:39:57.611>some <00:39:57.767>message <00:39:57.922>you <00:39:58.078>can <00:39:58.233>share <00:39:58.389>with <00:39:58.545>them?

852
00:40:00.545 --> 00:40:02.085
<00:40:00.545>So <00:40:00.822>don't <00:40:01.099>be <00:40:01.376>stupid <00:40:01.653>like <00:40:01.931>me

853
00:40:02.085 --> 00:40:07.045
<00:40:02.085>and <00:40:02.260>be, <00:40:02.435>be <00:40:02.610>afraid <00:40:02.785>of, <00:40:02.960>of, <00:40:03.135>uh, <00:40:03.310>going <00:40:03.485>to

854
00:40:08.325 --> 00:40:11.565
<00:40:08.325>a <00:40:08.500>place <00:40:08.674>where, <00:40:08.850>where <00:40:09.024>just <00:40:09.200>men <00:40:09.375>are, <00:40:09.549>are, <00:40:09.725>um,

855
00:40:11.665 --> 00:40:12.685
<00:40:11.665>in <00:40:11.894>the, <00:40:12.124>in <00:40:12.353>the <00:40:12.583>class.

856
00:40:12.955 --> 00:40:16.845
<00:40:12.955>Yeah. <00:40:13.130>Um, <00:40:13.305>show <00:40:13.480>up <00:40:13.654>there, <00:40:13.830>go <00:40:14.005>into <00:40:14.180>tech, <00:40:14.355>um,

857
00:40:16.895 --> 00:40:18.605
<00:40:16.895>learn <00:40:17.175>the <00:40:17.455>relevant <00:40:17.735>and <00:40:18.015>cool <00:40:18.295>stuff.

858
00:40:19.265 --> 00:40:20.965
<00:40:19.265>Not <00:40:19.545>only <00:40:19.825>girls, <00:40:20.105>but <00:40:20.384>also <00:40:20.665>boys.

859
00:40:21.165 --> 00:40:24.125
<00:40:21.165>I <00:40:21.340>think, <00:40:21.515>um, <00:40:21.690>it's, <00:40:21.865>it's <00:40:22.040>the <00:40:22.215>place <00:40:22.390>to <00:40:22.565>be

860
00:40:24.125 --> 00:40:28.645
<00:40:24.125>because <00:40:24.265>you <00:40:24.405>can <00:40:24.545>change <00:40:24.685>so <00:40:24.825>much, <00:40:24.965>so <00:40:25.105>quickly <00:40:25.245>when <00:40:25.385>you <00:40:25.525>have,

861
00:40:28.865 --> 00:40:30.725
<00:40:28.865>um, <00:40:29.214>this <00:40:29.564>interest <00:40:29.915>in <00:40:30.265>tech.

862
00:40:31.385 --> 00:40:35.485
<00:40:31.385>And <00:40:31.560>you <00:40:31.735>can, <00:40:31.910>you <00:40:32.085>can <00:40:32.260>change <00:40:32.435>in <00:40:32.610>all <00:40:32.785>industries.

863
00:40:35.625 --> 00:40:36.725
<00:40:35.625>You <00:40:35.955>can <00:40:36.285>change <00:40:36.615>things

864
00:40:37.195 --> 00:40:39.965
<00:40:37.195>that <00:40:37.350>have <00:40:37.506>been <00:40:37.661>done <00:40:37.817>differently <00:40:37.972>the <00:40:38.128>last <00:40:38.283>a <00:40:38.439>hundred <00:40:38.595>years.

865
00:40:40.105 --> 00:40:42.685
<00:40:40.105>You <00:40:40.385>can <00:40:40.665>change <00:40:40.945>with <00:40:41.225>tech. <00:40:41.505>Yeah.

866
00:40:42.705 --> 00:40:46.285
<00:40:42.705>And <00:40:42.904>so <00:40:43.105>therefore <00:40:43.305>go <00:40:43.505>into <00:40:43.705>these <00:40:43.904>areas, <00:40:44.105>um,

867
00:40:46.695 --> 00:40:51.485
<00:40:46.695>study <00:40:46.928>informatics, <00:40:47.161>um, <00:40:47.395>learn <00:40:47.628>consistently <00:40:47.861>new <00:40:48.095>things,

868
00:40:52.035 --> 00:40:54.085
<00:40:52.035>test <00:40:52.384>them <00:40:52.734>out, <00:40:53.085>and <00:40:53.435>ensure

869
00:40:54.595 --> 00:40:56.405
<00:40:54.595>that <00:40:54.875>this <00:40:55.154>knowledge <00:40:55.435>stays <00:40:55.714>in <00:40:55.995>Europe.

870
00:40:56.675 --> 00:40:59.805
<00:40:56.675>Yeah. <00:40:56.815>Um, <00:40:56.955>do <00:40:57.095>your <00:40:57.235>startup <00:40:57.375>here <00:40:57.515>and <00:40:57.655>not <00:40:57.795>in <00:40:57.935>the <00:40:58.075>us.

871
00:41:00.395 --> 00:41:04.605
<00:41:00.395>Stay <00:41:00.535>here <00:41:00.675>and <00:41:00.815>ensure <00:41:00.955>that <00:41:01.095>we <00:41:01.235>have <00:41:01.375>the <00:41:01.515>next <00:41:01.655>unicorns <00:41:01.795>here.

872
00:41:04.895 --> 00:41:07.765
<00:41:04.895>We're <00:41:05.050>gonna <00:41:05.206>do <00:41:05.361>a <00:41:05.517>short <00:41:05.672>word <00:41:05.828>rep. <00:41:05.983>Alright. <00:41:06.139>Okay. <00:41:06.295>Mm-hmm.

873
00:41:07.845 --> 00:41:10.565
<00:41:07.845>So <00:41:08.000>you <00:41:08.156>have <00:41:08.311>like, <00:41:08.467>let's <00:41:08.622>say <00:41:08.778>it <00:41:08.933>says <00:41:09.089>five <00:41:09.245>seconds.

874
00:41:10.655 --> 00:41:12.645
<00:41:10.655>Let's <00:41:10.830>say <00:41:11.005>you <00:41:11.180>have <00:41:11.355>three <00:41:11.530>seconds <00:41:11.705>for <00:41:11.880>each <00:41:12.055>answer.

875
00:41:12.865 --> 00:41:13.925
<00:41:12.865>Oh <00:41:13.183>wow. <00:41:13.501>Okay. <00:41:13.819>Um,

876
00:41:14.505 --> 00:41:15.765
<00:41:14.505>You <00:41:14.731>can <00:41:14.958>also <00:41:15.185>jump <00:41:15.412>over <00:41:15.639>that.

877
00:41:15.865 --> 00:41:17.805
<00:41:15.865>So <00:41:16.331>a <00:41:16.798>simple <00:41:17.265>one.

878
00:41:18.065 --> 00:41:21.085
<00:41:18.065>Um, <00:41:18.220>will <00:41:18.376>there <00:41:18.531>be <00:41:18.687>more <00:41:18.842>or <00:41:18.998>less <00:41:19.153>developers <00:41:19.309>in <00:41:19.465>the

879
00:41:21.245 --> 00:41:21.925
<00:41:21.245>Future? <00:41:21.857>More

880
00:41:22.785 --> 00:41:23.785
<00:41:22.785>Coffee <00:41:23.085>or <00:41:23.384>tea? <00:41:23.685>Coffee.

881
00:41:23.785 --> 00:41:26.805
<00:41:23.785>When <00:41:24.018>you <00:41:24.251>work, <00:41:24.484>you <00:41:24.718>work <00:41:24.951>with <00:41:25.185>music

882
00:41:26.985 --> 00:41:28.485
<00:41:26.985>or <00:41:27.435>in <00:41:27.885>silence? <00:41:28.335>Silence.

883
00:41:28.595 --> 00:41:30.765
<00:41:28.595>Silence. <00:41:28.794>When <00:41:28.995>you <00:41:29.194>listen <00:41:29.395>to <00:41:29.595>music, <00:41:29.794>what <00:41:29.995>music?

884
00:41:32.405 --> 00:41:34.885
<00:41:32.405>Uh, <00:41:32.755>pop. <00:41:33.105>Pop. <00:41:33.455>Favorite <00:41:33.805>song?

885
00:41:36.015 --> 00:41:38.395
<00:41:36.015>Oh <00:41:36.295>gosh, <00:41:36.575>I <00:41:36.855>don't <00:41:37.134>know. <00:41:37.415>I

886
00:41:38.565 --> 00:41:39.565
<00:41:38.565>Don't <00:41:38.715>know. <00:41:38.865>Is <00:41:39.015>there <00:41:39.165>a <00:41:39.315>song <00:41:39.465>that's

887
00:41:39.565 --> 00:41:40.315
<00:41:39.565>called, <00:41:39.790>I <00:41:40.015>don't <00:41:40.240>know.

888
00:41:40.315 --> 00:41:43.235
<00:41:40.315>Or <00:41:40.455>is <00:41:40.595>it <00:41:40.735>is <00:41:40.875>just <00:41:41.015>the <00:41:41.155>answer? <00:41:41.295>No, <00:41:41.435>me. <00:41:41.575>Car. <00:41:41.715>Pc.

889
00:41:44.175 --> 00:41:46.435
<00:41:44.175>Pc <00:41:44.641>Pc. <00:41:45.108>Sports <00:41:45.575>Car.

890
00:41:46.805 --> 00:41:49.715
<00:41:46.805>Super <00:41:47.085>Car <00:41:47.365>or <00:41:47.645>Family <00:41:47.924>Van. <00:41:48.205>Family

891
00:41:49.855 --> 00:41:50.855
<00:41:49.855>Van. <00:41:50.305>Family <00:41:50.755>Van

892
00:41:50.855 --> 00:41:53.475
<00:41:50.855>Gray. <00:41:51.088>Oh, <00:41:51.321>so <00:41:51.555>Dream <00:41:51.788>Road, <00:41:52.021>trip <00:41:52.255>Car.

893
00:41:54.495 --> 00:41:56.075
<00:41:54.495>Oh, <00:41:54.845>well <00:41:55.194>that's <00:41:55.545>an <00:41:55.895>sl.

894
00:41:56.665 --> 00:41:59.995
<00:41:56.665>Okay, <00:41:56.898>good. <00:41:57.131>And, <00:41:57.365>uh, <00:41:57.598>types <00:41:57.831>of <00:41:58.065>spaces.

895
00:42:02.165 --> 00:42:03.775
<00:42:02.165>Taps. <00:42:02.631>Taps. <00:42:03.098>Good <00:42:03.565>one.

896
00:42:04.595 --> 00:42:07.535
<00:42:04.595>Um, <00:42:04.750>next <00:42:04.906>one <00:42:05.061>if <00:42:05.217>you <00:42:05.372>can, <00:42:05.528>could <00:42:05.683>have <00:42:05.839>dinner. <00:42:05.995>Yes.

897
00:42:07.535 --> 00:42:08.695
<00:42:07.535>With <00:42:07.883>one <00:42:08.231>specific <00:42:08.579>person,

898
00:42:08.875 --> 00:42:12.255
<00:42:08.875>no <00:42:09.015>matter <00:42:09.155>from <00:42:09.295>the <00:42:09.435>past <00:42:09.575>or <00:42:09.715>present. <00:42:09.855>Who <00:42:09.995>would <00:42:10.135>that <00:42:10.275>be?

899
00:42:12.935 --> 00:42:15.055
<00:42:12.935>I <00:42:13.285>think <00:42:13.634>Mirati. <00:42:13.985>Okay. <00:42:14.335>Why?

900
00:42:15.485 --> 00:42:18.495
<00:42:15.485>Because <00:42:15.685>she's <00:42:15.885>one <00:42:16.085>of <00:42:16.285>these <00:42:16.485>frontrunners <00:42:16.685>that <00:42:16.885>have,

901
00:42:18.905 --> 00:42:23.815
<00:42:18.905>she's <00:42:19.021>the <00:42:19.138>CTO <00:42:19.255>or <00:42:19.371>she <00:42:19.488>used <00:42:19.605>to <00:42:19.721>be <00:42:19.838>the <00:42:19.955>CTO <00:42:20.071>of, <00:42:20.188>um, <00:42:20.305>OpenAI.

902
00:42:23.875 --> 00:42:26.415
<00:42:23.875>And <00:42:24.075>she's <00:42:24.275>now <00:42:24.475>founding <00:42:24.675>her <00:42:24.875>next, <00:42:25.075>um, <00:42:25.275>endeavor.

903
00:42:27.015 --> 00:42:31.655
<00:42:27.015>I <00:42:27.154>think <00:42:27.295>she's <00:42:27.435>one <00:42:27.575>of <00:42:27.714>these <00:42:27.855>females <00:42:27.995>that <00:42:28.134>really <00:42:28.275>have <00:42:28.415>Yeah.

904
00:42:31.875 --> 00:42:34.455
<00:42:31.875>The <00:42:32.050>innovation <00:42:32.225>spirit <00:42:32.400>that <00:42:32.575>we <00:42:32.750>need <00:42:32.925>these <00:42:33.100>days. <00:42:33.275>Yeah.

905
00:42:35.045 --> 00:42:37.495
<00:42:35.045>Okay. <00:42:35.200>We've <00:42:35.356>tried <00:42:35.511>to <00:42:35.667>invite <00:42:35.822>her <00:42:35.978>to <00:42:36.133>the, <00:42:36.289>we <00:42:36.445>develop,

906
00:42:37.515 --> 00:42:41.735
<00:42:37.515>so <00:42:37.714>Congress <00:42:37.915>please, <00:42:38.115>maybe <00:42:38.315>if <00:42:38.515>we <00:42:38.714>cut <00:42:38.915>this,

907
00:42:41.735 --> 00:42:44.055
<00:42:41.735>your <00:42:41.875>answer <00:42:42.015>out <00:42:42.155>and <00:42:42.295>send <00:42:42.435>that <00:42:42.575>video <00:42:42.715>clip <00:42:42.855>to <00:42:42.995>her, <00:42:43.135>maybe

908
00:42:44.055 --> 00:42:46.415
<00:42:44.055>that's <00:42:44.254>an <00:42:44.455>additional <00:42:44.654>argument <00:42:44.855>for <00:42:45.055>her <00:42:45.254>to <00:42:45.455>Yeah,

909
00:42:46.415 --> 00:42:47.655
<00:42:46.415>Please <00:42:46.526>go <00:42:46.638>for, <00:42:46.749>For <00:42:46.861>it. <00:42:46.973>So <00:42:47.084>maybe <00:42:47.196>we <00:42:47.307>can <00:42:47.419>do <00:42:47.531>that.

910
00:42:47.725 --> 00:42:49.215
<00:42:47.725>That <00:42:47.916>that <00:42:48.108>would <00:42:48.299>be <00:42:48.491>awesome. <00:42:48.682>That's, <00:42:48.874>that's <00:42:49.066>right.

911
00:42:49.215 --> 00:42:53.335
<00:42:49.215>Right. <00:42:49.390>Uh, <00:42:49.565>favorite, <00:42:49.740>uh, <00:42:49.915>favorite <00:42:50.090>app <00:42:50.265>on <00:42:50.440>your <00:42:50.615>smartphone?

912
00:42:54.875 --> 00:42:58.775
<00:42:54.875>Um, <00:42:55.341>the <00:42:55.808>Palin. <00:42:56.275>One.

913
00:43:00.735 --> 00:43:02.255
<00:43:00.735>Favorite <00:43:01.008>gadget <00:43:01.282>you <00:43:01.555>can't <00:43:01.829>live <00:43:02.103>without.

914
00:43:02.605 --> 00:43:03.855
<00:43:02.605>It's <00:43:02.980>actually <00:43:03.355>my <00:43:03.730>smartphone.

915
00:43:04.325 --> 00:43:07.975
<00:43:04.325>Okay. <00:43:04.524>Uh, <00:43:04.725>early <00:43:04.924>bird <00:43:05.125>or <00:43:05.325>night <00:43:05.524>old? <00:43:05.725>Early

916
00:43:08.005 --> 00:43:09.005
<00:43:08.005>Bird. <00:43:08.455>Early <00:43:08.905>bird.

917
00:43:09.005 --> 00:43:11.735
<00:43:09.005>Not <00:43:09.205>the <00:43:09.405>classical <00:43:09.605>developer, <00:43:09.805>but <00:43:10.005>yes, <00:43:10.205>that's <00:43:10.405>me.

918
00:43:11.965 --> 00:43:14.335
<00:43:11.965>Yeah. <00:43:12.315>And <00:43:12.665>so <00:43:13.015>last <00:43:13.365>one,

919
00:43:14.335 --> 00:43:15.935
<00:43:14.335>what <00:43:14.535>are <00:43:14.735>you <00:43:14.935>excited <00:43:15.135>about <00:43:15.335>in <00:43:15.535>the <00:43:15.735>future?

920
00:43:16.755 --> 00:43:19.415
<00:43:16.755>I'm <00:43:17.221>excited <00:43:17.688>about <00:43:18.155>Quantum.

921
00:43:19.645 --> 00:43:21.295
<00:43:19.645>Quantum. <00:43:19.995>Yes. <00:43:20.345>Cool. <00:43:20.695>Me <00:43:21.045>too.

922
00:43:21.435 --> 00:43:23.295
<00:43:21.435>That's <00:43:21.785>super <00:43:22.134>interesting <00:43:22.485>topic. <00:43:22.835>Like

923
00:43:24.045 --> 00:43:25.045
<00:43:24.045>It's <00:43:24.495>amazing. <00:43:24.945>Yeah.

924
00:43:25.045 --> 00:43:27.615
<00:43:25.045>It's <00:43:25.245>so <00:43:25.445>amazing. <00:43:25.645>It <00:43:25.845>blows <00:43:26.045>my <00:43:26.245>mind. <00:43:26.445>Yeah.

925
00:43:27.645 --> 00:43:30.455
<00:43:27.645>It's <00:43:27.820>hard <00:43:27.995>to <00:43:28.170>understand <00:43:28.345>and <00:43:28.520>I <00:43:28.695>love <00:43:28.870>it. <00:43:29.045>Okay.

926
00:43:30.635 --> 00:43:32.935
<00:43:30.635>But <00:43:30.810>we <00:43:30.985>unfortunately <00:43:31.160>have <00:43:31.335>to <00:43:31.510>end <00:43:31.685>this <00:43:31.860>podcast. <00:43:32.035>Yes.

927
00:43:33.135 --> 00:43:34.295
<00:43:33.135>'cause <00:43:33.309>your <00:43:33.483>team <00:43:33.657>in <00:43:33.831>the <00:43:34.005>background <00:43:34.179>is

928
00:43:34.525 --> 00:43:35.855
<00:43:34.525>already <00:43:34.924>becoming <00:43:35.323>very <00:43:35.722>nervous.

929
00:43:35.995 --> 00:43:37.855
<00:43:35.995>Yes, <00:43:36.170>I <00:43:36.345>know. <00:43:36.520>So, <00:43:36.694>Catherine, <00:43:36.870>thank <00:43:37.045>you <00:43:37.220>so <00:43:37.395>much.

930
00:43:37.855 --> 00:43:39.055
<00:43:37.855>Thanks <00:43:38.009>a <00:43:38.163>lot. <00:43:38.317>It's <00:43:38.472>a <00:43:38.626>lot <00:43:38.780>of <00:43:38.935>fun.

931
00:43:39.735 --> 00:43:41.255
<00:43:39.735>I <00:43:39.906>hope <00:43:40.077>you <00:43:40.248>enjoyed <00:43:40.419>it <00:43:40.590>here <00:43:40.761>in <00:43:40.932>Stu <00:43:41.103>Guide.

932
00:43:41.605 --> 00:43:43.815
<00:43:41.605>Yeah, <00:43:41.955>we <00:43:42.305>really <00:43:42.655>love <00:43:43.005>it.

933
00:43:44.035 --> 00:43:46.055
<00:43:44.035>Uh, <00:43:44.234>we'll <00:43:44.435>still <00:43:44.634>do <00:43:44.835>some, <00:43:45.035>some <00:43:45.234>filming <00:43:45.435>here

934
00:43:46.435 --> 00:43:48.255
<00:43:46.435>and, <00:43:46.901>uh, <00:43:47.368>looking <00:43:47.835>forward

935
00:43:48.435 --> 00:43:50.295
<00:43:48.435>to <00:43:48.634>seeing <00:43:48.835>you <00:43:49.035>in <00:43:49.235>Berlin <00:43:49.435>in <00:43:49.634>July <00:43:49.835>again.

936
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