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375
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376
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378
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380
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382
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383
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389
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390
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391
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393
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395
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401
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402
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408
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409
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410
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411
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<00:21:22.505>of <00:21:22.660>using <00:21:22.816>scrum <00:21:22.971>at <00:21:23.127>scale <00:21:23.282>unsafe, <00:21:23.438>which <00:21:23.593>really <00:21:23.749>allows <00:21:23.905>us

412
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<00:21:26.745>to <00:21:26.945>also, <00:21:27.145>you <00:21:27.344>know, <00:21:27.544>bring <00:21:27.745>everything <00:21:27.945>together <00:21:28.145>so

413
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<00:21:28.545>that <00:21:28.685>at <00:21:28.825>the <00:21:28.965>end <00:21:29.105>of <00:21:29.245>the <00:21:29.385>day <00:21:29.525>it <00:21:29.665>is <00:21:29.805>a <00:21:29.945>product

414
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<00:21:30.725>and <00:21:30.899>not <00:21:31.074>that <00:21:31.250>things <00:21:31.425>are <00:21:31.600>different <00:21:31.774>in <00:21:31.949>different <00:21:32.125>teams.

415
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<00:21:34.325>And <00:21:34.500>by <00:21:34.675>having <00:21:34.850>the <00:21:35.025>change <00:21:35.200>in <00:21:35.375>these <00:21:35.550>three <00:21:35.725>areas,

416
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<00:21:39.005>we <00:21:39.238>have <00:21:39.471>been <00:21:39.705>able <00:21:39.938>to <00:21:40.171>modernize, <00:21:40.405>allow,

417
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<00:21:43.425>I'll <00:21:43.626>not <00:21:43.828>say <00:21:44.029>the <00:21:44.231>major <00:21:44.433>part,

418
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<00:21:44.545>but <00:21:44.753>at <00:21:44.962>least <00:21:45.171>a <00:21:45.380>decent <00:21:45.589>part

419
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<00:21:45.705>of <00:21:45.915>our <00:21:46.125>product <00:21:46.335>into <00:21:46.545>the <00:21:46.755>new <00:21:46.965>world.

420
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<00:21:48.005>And, <00:21:48.180>uh, <00:21:48.355>we <00:21:48.530>hope <00:21:48.705>to <00:21:48.880>continue <00:21:49.055>it <00:21:49.230>further <00:21:49.405>on

421
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<00:21:50.765>and <00:21:50.892>to <00:21:51.019>take <00:21:51.146>this <00:21:51.274>opportunity <00:21:51.401>to <00:21:51.528>also, <00:21:51.655>you <00:21:51.783>know, <00:21:51.910>in <00:21:52.037>a <00:21:52.165>span

422
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<00:21:54.145>of <00:21:54.300>a <00:21:54.456>year <00:21:54.611>or <00:21:54.767>two <00:21:54.922>completely <00:21:55.078>modernized <00:21:55.233>netline <00:21:55.389>crew <00:21:55.545>so

423
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<00:21:56.385>that <00:21:56.585>it <00:21:56.785>is, <00:21:56.985>uh, <00:21:57.185>cloud <00:21:57.385>native <00:21:57.585>application <00:21:57.785>operated

424
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<00:21:59.885>and <00:22:00.165>also <00:22:00.445>monitor <00:22:00.725>in <00:22:01.004>the <00:22:01.285>similar

425
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<00:22:01.985>fashion, <00:22:02.685>I <00:22:03.385>think.

426
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<00:22:05.565>Yeah, <00:22:05.720>that's <00:22:05.876>what <00:22:06.031>we <00:22:06.187>wanted <00:22:06.342>to <00:22:06.498>share <00:22:06.653>with <00:22:06.809>you <00:22:06.965>all

427
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<00:22:07.755>and <00:22:07.910>our <00:22:08.066>experience <00:22:08.221>is <00:22:08.377>what <00:22:08.532>we <00:22:08.688>have <00:22:08.843>done <00:22:08.999>so <00:22:09.155>far.