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386
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<00:16:34.745>and <00:16:34.900>so <00:16:35.056>much <00:16:35.211>to <00:16:35.367>think <00:16:35.522>about, <00:16:35.678>so <00:16:35.833>much <00:16:35.989>to <00:16:36.145>learn,

387
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<00:16:36.865>so <00:16:37.084>many <00:16:37.303>people <00:16:37.522>to <00:16:37.741>meet <00:16:37.960>and <00:16:38.179>it's

388
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<00:16:38.355>Running <00:16:39.055>so <00:16:39.755>Seamlessly

389
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<00:16:40.305>Should <00:16:40.836>be <00:16:41.367>mandatory.

390
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<00:16:41.715>I've <00:16:41.842>learned <00:16:41.969>more <00:16:42.096>in <00:16:42.224>half <00:16:42.351>a <00:16:42.478>day <00:16:42.605>than <00:16:42.733>in <00:16:42.860>the <00:16:42.987>last <00:16:43.115>quarter.

391
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<00:16:44.795>This <00:16:44.922>Is <00:16:45.049>the <00:16:45.176>very <00:16:45.304>special <00:16:45.431>place <00:16:45.558>to <00:16:45.685>be <00:16:45.813>if <00:16:45.940>you <00:16:46.067>really <00:16:46.194>want

392
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<00:16:47.405>to <00:16:47.747>connect <00:16:48.089>with <00:16:48.430>people <00:16:48.772>like-minded.

393
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<00:16:49.285>I <00:16:49.459>want <00:16:49.635>to <00:16:49.810>stay <00:16:49.985>here <00:16:50.160>forever. <00:16:50.334>It's <00:16:50.510>a <00:16:50.685>congress,

394
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<00:16:51.045>but <00:16:51.255>it <00:16:51.465>feels <00:16:51.675>like <00:16:51.885>it's <00:16:52.095>a <00:16:52.305>family.

395
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<00:16:52.745>One <00:16:52.945>of <00:16:53.145>the <00:16:53.345>best <00:16:53.545>events <00:16:53.745>I <00:16:53.945>participated <00:16:54.145>in,

396
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<00:16:55.565>I <00:16:55.915>feel <00:16:56.265>absolutely <00:16:56.615>bamboozled <00:16:56.965>by

397
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<00:16:57.585>how <00:16:57.740>much <00:16:57.896>great <00:16:58.051>stuff <00:16:58.207>is <00:16:58.362>going <00:16:58.518>on <00:16:58.673>here. <00:16:58.829>I <00:16:58.985>could

398
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<00:17:00.645>Write <00:17:00.870>a <00:17:01.095>book <00:17:01.319>about <00:17:01.545>It.

399
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<00:17:01.805>I <00:17:01.960>normally <00:17:02.116>have <00:17:02.271>one <00:17:02.427>KPI <00:17:02.582>if <00:17:02.738>I <00:17:02.893>go <00:17:03.049>to <00:17:03.204>events,

400
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<00:17:04.474>it's <00:17:04.947>smiling <00:17:05.420>faces.

401
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<00:17:05.655>There <00:17:05.888>were <00:17:06.121>so <00:17:06.355>many <00:17:06.588>smiling <00:17:06.821>faces <00:17:07.055>today,

402
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<00:17:07.984>and <00:17:08.268>that <00:17:08.551>makes <00:17:08.835>me <00:17:09.118>Happy

403
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<00:17:09.964>Electric, <00:17:10.264>I'm <00:17:10.564>just <00:17:10.865>blown

404
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<00:17:10.964>Away <00:17:11.314>full <00:17:11.665>of <00:17:12.014>inspiration. <00:17:12.365>Why?

405
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<00:17:12.525>It's <00:17:12.700>only <00:17:12.875>one <00:17:13.050>per <00:17:13.225>year. <00:17:13.400>It's <00:17:13.575>a <00:17:13.750>hundred <00:17:13.925>percent.

406
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<00:17:14.605>120% <00:17:15.901>recommendable.

407
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<00:17:19.915>Okay. <00:17:20.241>We <00:17:20.567>are <00:17:20.893>back <00:17:21.220>again.

408
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<00:17:21.505>Uh, <00:17:21.680>we <00:17:21.855>hope <00:17:22.030>you <00:17:22.205>enjoyed <00:17:22.380>this <00:17:22.555>kind <00:17:22.730>of <00:17:22.905>summary

409
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<00:17:23.675>that <00:17:23.965>we <00:17:24.255>collected <00:17:24.545>for <00:17:24.836>you.

410
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<00:17:25.585>Uh, <00:17:25.725>I <00:17:25.865>mean, <00:17:26.005>coming <00:17:26.145>back <00:17:26.285>to <00:17:26.425>this <00:17:26.565>mental <00:17:26.704>health <00:17:26.845>thing, <00:17:26.985>um,

411
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<00:17:30.815>I <00:17:31.048>think <00:17:31.281>it's, <00:17:31.515>it, <00:17:31.748>it, <00:17:31.981>it's <00:17:32.215>important.

412
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<00:17:32.615>I <00:17:32.770>mean, <00:17:32.926>uh, <00:17:33.081>it, <00:17:33.237>it <00:17:33.392>sometimes <00:17:33.548>for, <00:17:33.703>for <00:17:33.859>real <00:17:34.015>managers,

413
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<00:17:36.915>it <00:17:37.148>always <00:17:37.381>sounds <00:17:37.615>a <00:17:37.848>little <00:17:38.081>bit <00:17:38.315>esoteric.

414
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<00:17:39.005>Yeah. <00:17:39.180>But <00:17:39.355>for <00:17:39.530>me, <00:17:39.705>I <00:17:39.880>think <00:17:40.055>the <00:17:40.230>important <00:17:40.405>thing,

415
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<00:17:41.675>and <00:17:41.791>that <00:17:41.908>is <00:17:42.024>why <00:17:42.141>I <00:17:42.258>think <00:17:42.375>we <00:17:42.491>were, <00:17:42.608>while <00:17:42.725>we <00:17:42.841>were <00:17:42.958>focusing <00:17:43.075>on,

416
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<00:17:44.895>on <00:17:45.070>why <00:17:45.245>we <00:17:45.420>were <00:17:45.595>focusing <00:17:45.770>on <00:17:45.945>it <00:17:46.120>as <00:17:46.295>well,

417
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<00:17:47.195>is <00:17:47.370>it <00:17:47.544>has <00:17:47.720>a <00:17:47.895>lot <00:17:48.070>to <00:17:48.245>do <00:17:48.419>with <00:17:48.595>leadership.

418
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<00:17:49.915>Yeah. <00:17:50.148>Yeah. <00:17:50.381>And <00:17:50.615>I <00:17:50.848>mean, <00:17:51.081>the <00:17:51.315>summary

419
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<00:17:51.945>and, <00:17:52.120>uh, <00:17:52.294>I <00:17:52.470>I <00:17:52.645>I <00:17:52.820>was <00:17:52.995>listening <00:17:53.169>to <00:17:53.345>some

420
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<00:17:53.925>of <00:17:54.274>these <00:17:54.625>mental <00:17:54.975>health <00:17:55.325>talks

421
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<00:17:55.525>and <00:17:55.758>mental <00:17:55.991>health <00:17:56.225>related <00:17:56.458>talks <00:17:56.691>as <00:17:56.925>well

422
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<00:17:57.245>because <00:17:57.445>I'm, <00:17:57.645>I <00:17:57.844>I, <00:17:58.044>I'm <00:17:58.245>a <00:17:58.445>leader <00:17:58.645>myself

423
00:18:00.425 --> 00:18:04.165
<00:18:00.425>and <00:18:00.541>I'm, <00:18:00.658>um, <00:18:00.774>I <00:18:00.891>think <00:18:01.008>it's <00:18:01.125>really <00:18:01.241>important <00:18:01.358>to, <00:18:01.475>to <00:18:01.591>get <00:18:01.708>a <00:18:01.825>kind

424
00:18:04.165 --> 00:18:06.005
<00:18:04.165>of <00:18:04.398>a <00:18:04.631>clue <00:18:04.865>what's <00:18:05.098>going <00:18:05.331>on <00:18:05.565>there.

425
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<00:18:06.195>Yeah. <00:18:06.335>And <00:18:06.475>for <00:18:06.615>me <00:18:06.754>to <00:18:06.895>summary <00:18:07.034>you <00:18:07.175>the <00:18:07.314>essence <00:18:07.455>of <00:18:07.595>of,

426
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<00:18:09.305>of <00:18:09.655>getting <00:18:10.005>mental <00:18:10.355>health <00:18:10.705>right.

427
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<00:18:11.185>Is <00:18:11.292>the <00:18:11.400>first <00:18:11.508>step <00:18:11.615>that <00:18:11.723>you <00:18:11.831>need <00:18:11.938>to <00:18:12.046>do <00:18:12.154>is <00:18:12.261>you <00:18:12.369>need <00:18:12.477>to <00:18:12.585>find,

428
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<00:18:14.585>create <00:18:14.818>a <00:18:15.051>safe <00:18:15.285>space <00:18:15.518>in <00:18:15.751>your <00:18:15.985>organization.

429
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<00:18:16.915>Yeah. <00:18:17.090>And <00:18:17.264>that <00:18:17.440>has <00:18:17.615>a <00:18:17.790>lot <00:18:17.965>to <00:18:18.139>do <00:18:18.315>with

430
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<00:18:20.545>extremely <00:18:21.035>good <00:18:21.526>leadership.

431
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<00:18:21.635>It <00:18:21.790>has <00:18:21.946>a <00:18:22.101>lot <00:18:22.257>to <00:18:22.412>do <00:18:22.568>with <00:18:22.723>building <00:18:22.879>trust. <00:18:23.035>Yeah.

432
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<00:18:24.305>Getting <00:18:24.505>a <00:18:24.705>kind <00:18:24.905>of, <00:18:25.105>creating <00:18:25.305>a <00:18:25.505>safe <00:18:25.705>space.

433
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<00:18:26.815>And <00:18:27.056>I <00:18:27.297>think <00:18:27.538>that's <00:18:27.779>so <00:18:28.021>important.

434
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<00:18:28.435>I <00:18:28.746>think <00:18:29.059>it's, <00:18:29.370>it,

435
00:18:29.505 --> 00:18:31.675
<00:18:29.505>it's <00:18:29.705>not <00:18:29.905>taking <00:18:30.105>care <00:18:30.305>about <00:18:30.505>every <00:18:30.705>single <00:18:30.905>things.

436
00:18:31.735 --> 00:18:34.355
<00:18:31.735>And <00:18:31.851>I <00:18:31.968>think <00:18:32.084>that <00:18:32.201>the <00:18:32.318>organ, <00:18:32.435>I <00:18:32.551>think <00:18:32.668>we <00:18:32.784>as <00:18:32.901>humans, <00:18:33.018>I <00:18:33.135>have

437
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<00:18:34.355>to <00:18:34.555>learn, <00:18:34.755>uh, <00:18:34.955>as <00:18:35.155>well <00:18:35.355>that <00:18:35.555>a <00:18:35.755>contract

438
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<00:18:38.075>with <00:18:38.250>a <00:18:38.425>company <00:18:38.600>is <00:18:38.775>still <00:18:38.950>a <00:18:39.125>kind <00:18:39.300>of, <00:18:39.475>uh,

439
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<00:18:40.985>financial <00:18:41.320>agreement <00:18:41.655>in <00:18:41.990>a <00:18:42.326>way.

440
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<00:18:42.665>Yeah. <00:18:42.980>On <00:18:43.294>one <00:18:43.610>hand.

441
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<00:18:43.855>And <00:18:44.030>I <00:18:44.205>think, <00:18:44.380>uh, <00:18:44.555>that <00:18:44.730>there's <00:18:44.905>some <00:18:45.080>kind <00:18:45.255>of,

442
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<00:18:46.695>of <00:18:47.014>smooth <00:18:47.334>border <00:18:47.653>in <00:18:47.973>between.

443
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<00:18:48.135>And <00:18:48.275>therefore <00:18:48.415>I <00:18:48.555>think <00:18:48.695>it's <00:18:48.835>important <00:18:48.975>to <00:18:49.115>really <00:18:49.254>get <00:18:49.395>the <00:18:49.535>kind

444
00:18:50.675 --> 00:18:52.435
<00:18:50.675>of <00:18:50.908>a <00:18:51.141>common <00:18:51.375>understanding <00:18:51.608>from <00:18:51.841>both <00:18:52.075>sides.

445
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<00:18:52.505>Yeah. <00:18:52.680>From <00:18:52.855>the <00:18:53.030>audience, <00:18:53.205>from <00:18:53.380>the <00:18:53.555>employees <00:18:53.730>as <00:18:53.905>well

446
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<00:18:54.695>as <00:18:54.895>from <00:18:55.095>the <00:18:55.294>company <00:18:55.495>and <00:18:55.695>the <00:18:55.895>leadership <00:18:56.095>teams.

447
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<00:18:57.575>And <00:18:57.808>therefore, <00:18:58.041>I <00:18:58.275>think <00:18:58.508>it's <00:18:58.741>really <00:18:58.975>worth

448
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<00:18:59.275>putting <00:18:59.599>it <00:18:59.923>on <00:19:00.247>agenda.

449
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<00:19:00.905>Yeah. <00:19:01.222>I <00:19:01.539>agree. <00:19:01.856>I <00:19:02.174>agree.

450
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<00:19:02.435>I <00:19:02.610>think <00:19:02.784>it's <00:19:02.960>also <00:19:03.135>really <00:19:03.310>interesting <00:19:03.485>when, <00:19:03.659>I <00:19:03.835>mean,

451
00:19:05.035 --> 00:19:07.635
<00:19:05.035>we've <00:19:05.210>already <00:19:05.385>talked <00:19:05.560>about <00:19:05.735>this <00:19:05.910>also <00:19:06.085>in <00:19:06.260>other <00:19:06.435>cappuccino

452
00:19:07.635 --> 00:19:10.475
<00:19:07.635>with <00:19:07.810>HR <00:19:07.985>episodes, <00:19:08.160>but <00:19:08.335>kind <00:19:08.510>of <00:19:08.685>like <00:19:08.860>leaning <00:19:09.035>into

453
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<00:19:10.975>how <00:19:11.194>do <00:19:11.414>you <00:19:11.633>create <00:19:11.853>that <00:19:12.072>space?

454
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<00:19:12.225>Like <00:19:12.504>who <00:19:12.784>is <00:19:13.064>responsible <00:19:13.344>for <00:19:13.625>it?

455
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<00:19:13.895>And <00:19:14.232>there's <00:19:14.570>always <00:19:14.907>a <00:19:15.245>conclusion

456
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<00:19:15.395>that <00:19:15.745>everyone <00:19:16.095>should <00:19:16.445>be <00:19:16.795>involved.

457
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<00:19:17.275>I <00:19:17.555>mean, <00:19:17.835>the <00:19:18.115>employees, <00:19:18.395>the <00:19:18.675>employers.

458
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<00:19:19.575>Um, <00:19:19.730>but <00:19:19.886>yeah, <00:19:20.041>it's <00:19:20.197>definitely <00:19:20.352>difficult <00:19:20.508>to <00:19:20.663>create <00:19:20.819>that <00:19:20.975>space

459
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<00:19:23.215>and <00:19:23.355>be <00:19:23.495>open <00:19:23.635>about <00:19:23.774>it, <00:19:23.915>especially <00:19:24.054>when <00:19:24.195>you <00:19:24.334>have <00:19:24.475>that <00:19:24.615>inner,

460
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<00:19:26.895>um, <00:19:27.128>um, <00:19:27.361>this <00:19:27.595>controversy <00:19:27.828>inside <00:19:28.061>of <00:19:28.295>you

461
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<00:19:30.355>where <00:19:30.495>you're <00:19:30.635>not <00:19:30.775>sure, <00:19:30.915>okay, <00:19:31.055>I <00:19:31.195>want <00:19:31.335>to <00:19:31.475>perform <00:19:31.615>really <00:19:31.755>well.

462
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<00:19:34.035>I <00:19:34.210>want <00:19:34.385>to <00:19:34.560>position <00:19:34.735>myself <00:19:34.910>on <00:19:35.085>the <00:19:35.260>job <00:19:35.435>market

463
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<00:19:36.015>and <00:19:36.142>make <00:19:36.269>sure <00:19:36.396>I <00:19:36.524>climb <00:19:36.651>the <00:19:36.778>career <00:19:36.905>ladder <00:19:37.033>at <00:19:37.160>the <00:19:37.287>same <00:19:37.415>time.

464
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<00:19:39.505>Like, <00:19:39.612>when <00:19:39.720>do <00:19:39.828>I <00:19:39.935>say <00:19:40.043>no <00:19:40.151>to <00:19:40.258>things? <00:19:40.366>When <00:19:40.474>does <00:19:40.581>it <00:19:40.689>get <00:19:40.797>too <00:19:40.905>much?

465
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<00:19:42.775>Mm-hmm. <00:19:42.950>Uh, <00:19:43.125>when <00:19:43.300>do <00:19:43.475>I <00:19:43.650>get <00:19:43.825>to <00:19:44.000>go <00:19:44.175>home

466
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<00:19:45.185>with <00:19:45.651>having <00:19:46.118>completed <00:19:46.585>everything?

467
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<00:19:46.795>But <00:19:46.995>I <00:19:47.195>am <00:19:47.395>an <00:19:47.595>over <00:19:47.795>performer, <00:19:47.995>an <00:19:48.195>overachiever.

468
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<00:19:49.495>So <00:19:49.669>I <00:19:49.844>think <00:19:50.020>this <00:19:50.195>is <00:19:50.370>a <00:19:50.544>very <00:19:50.719>interesting <00:19:50.895>thing

469
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<00:19:52.035>that <00:19:52.162>we <00:19:52.289>will <00:19:52.416>probably <00:19:52.544>not <00:19:52.671>be <00:19:52.798>able <00:19:52.925>to <00:19:53.053>solve <00:19:53.180>in <00:19:53.307>30 <00:19:53.435>minutes.

470
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<00:19:54.825>Yeah. <00:19:54.980>And <00:19:55.136>I <00:19:55.291>mean, <00:19:55.447>we, <00:19:55.602>I <00:19:55.758>I <00:19:55.913>remember <00:19:56.069>one <00:19:56.225>session

471
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<00:19:57.025>with <00:19:57.400>Bianca, <00:19:57.775>for <00:19:58.150>example.

472
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<00:19:58.425>Yeah. <00:19:58.552>She, <00:19:58.679>she, <00:19:58.806>she <00:19:58.934>was <00:19:59.061>on <00:19:59.188>stage <00:19:59.315>two <00:19:59.443>times <00:19:59.570>or <00:19:59.697>three <00:19:59.825>times

473
00:20:01.815 --> 00:20:05.635
<00:20:01.815>and <00:20:02.015>Bianca, <00:20:02.215>uh, <00:20:02.415>she, <00:20:02.615>she, <00:20:02.815>she <00:20:03.015>was <00:20:03.215>also

474
00:20:06.715 --> 00:20:09.635
<00:20:06.715>bringing <00:20:06.948>really <00:20:07.181>concrete <00:20:07.415>figures <00:20:07.648>on <00:20:07.881>business <00:20:08.115>value.

475
00:20:09.895 --> 00:20:11.475
<00:20:09.895>And <00:20:10.245>this <00:20:10.595>is <00:20:10.945>incredible. <00:20:11.295>Yeah.

476
00:20:11.655 --> 00:20:14.035
<00:20:11.655>So <00:20:11.810>I <00:20:11.966>think <00:20:12.121>companies <00:20:12.277>out <00:20:12.432>there <00:20:12.588>are <00:20:12.743>not <00:20:12.899>giving <00:20:13.055>a

477
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<00:20:14.035>sheet <00:20:14.305>on <00:20:14.575>this <00:20:14.845>tape <00:20:15.115>topic.

478
00:20:15.505 --> 00:20:18.195
<00:20:15.505>They're <00:20:15.632>really <00:20:15.759>losing <00:20:15.886>a <00:20:16.014>hell <00:20:16.141>of <00:20:16.268>a <00:20:16.395>lot <00:20:16.523>of <00:20:16.650>money. <00:20:16.777>Yeah. <00:20:16.905>Yeah.

479
00:20:18.195 --> 00:20:19.995
<00:20:18.195>They're <00:20:18.370>losing <00:20:18.544>a <00:20:18.720>hell <00:20:18.895>of <00:20:19.070>a <00:20:19.245>lot <00:20:19.419>of <00:20:19.595>productivity.

480
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<00:20:20.535>And <00:20:20.675>I <00:20:20.815>think <00:20:20.955>the <00:20:21.095>worst <00:20:21.235>is <00:20:21.375>they're <00:20:21.515>losing <00:20:21.655>the <00:20:21.795>worst <00:20:21.935>employees.

481
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<00:20:23.225>Yeah. <00:20:23.425>Yeah. <00:20:23.625>And <00:20:23.824>I <00:20:24.024>think <00:20:24.225>that's <00:20:24.425>probably <00:20:24.625>the,

482
00:20:25.215 --> 00:20:26.915
<00:20:25.215>the <00:20:25.448>biggest <00:20:25.681>damage <00:20:25.915>that <00:20:26.148>they <00:20:26.381>could <00:20:26.615>do

483
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<00:20:26.935>to <00:20:27.264>their <00:20:27.595>own <00:20:27.925>companies.

484
00:20:28.135 --> 00:20:29.355
<00:20:28.135>So <00:20:28.684>I <00:20:29.233>think

485
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<00:20:29.355>therefore <00:20:29.530>it, <00:20:29.705>it, <00:20:29.880>it's <00:20:30.055>definitely <00:20:30.230>worth <00:20:30.405>listening <00:20:30.580>to <00:20:30.755>it.

486
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<00:20:32.155>Yeah. <00:20:32.599>Yeah. <00:20:33.043>So <00:20:33.487>I,

487
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<00:20:33.715>I <00:20:33.842>think <00:20:33.969>it <00:20:34.096>was <00:20:34.224>really <00:20:34.351>well <00:20:34.478>placed <00:20:34.605>on <00:20:34.733>our <00:20:34.860>agenda <00:20:34.987>this <00:20:35.115>year.

488
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<00:20:37.065>Yeah, <00:20:37.265>I <00:20:37.465>agree. <00:20:37.665>And <00:20:37.865>speaking <00:20:38.065>of <00:20:38.265>Agenda <00:20:38.465>Hui,

489
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<00:20:39.595>what <00:20:39.793>is <00:20:39.991>your <00:20:40.189>vision <00:20:40.387>for <00:20:40.585>next <00:20:40.783>year?

490
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<00:20:41.235>Actually, <00:20:41.685>I'm <00:20:42.135>curious.

491
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<00:20:43.805>I <00:20:43.945>think <00:20:44.085>we <00:20:44.225>are <00:20:44.365>really <00:20:44.505>in <00:20:44.645>tough <00:20:44.785>discussions <00:20:44.925>now <00:20:45.065>within <00:20:45.205>the

492
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<00:20:47.205>board <00:20:47.360>as <00:20:47.516>well, <00:20:47.671>because <00:20:47.827>what, <00:20:47.982>what <00:20:48.138>we, <00:20:48.293>I <00:20:48.449>think <00:20:48.605>what,

493
00:20:51.165 --> 00:20:55.085
<00:20:51.165>what <00:20:51.340>shows <00:20:51.514>up <00:20:51.690>now <00:20:51.865>is <00:20:52.040>that <00:20:52.215>what, <00:20:52.389>what <00:20:52.565>probably

494
00:20:55.945 --> 00:21:00.445
<00:20:55.945>uta, <00:20:56.100>uh, <00:20:56.256>mentioned <00:20:56.411>in, <00:20:56.567>in, <00:20:56.722>in <00:20:56.878>in <00:20:57.033>her <00:20:57.189>short <00:20:57.345>sequence.

495
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<00:21:00.625>Um, <00:21:00.741>I <00:21:00.858>think <00:21:00.975>we <00:21:01.091>are <00:21:01.208>right <00:21:01.325>now <00:21:01.441>thinking <00:21:01.558>about <00:21:01.675>a <00:21:01.791>kind <00:21:01.908>of, <00:21:02.025>uh,

496
00:21:06.165 --> 00:21:07.665
<00:21:06.165>making <00:21:06.615>it <00:21:07.065>more <00:21:07.514>crossover.

497
00:21:07.815 --> 00:21:10.785
<00:21:07.815>Yeah. <00:21:07.942>So <00:21:08.069>I <00:21:08.196>think <00:21:08.324>the, <00:21:08.451>the <00:21:08.578>basic <00:21:08.705>idea <00:21:08.833>is <00:21:08.960>to <00:21:09.087>say, <00:21:09.215>okay,

498
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<00:21:11.125>we <00:21:11.280>have <00:21:11.436>access <00:21:11.591>to <00:21:11.747>the <00:21:11.902>best <00:21:12.058>developers, <00:21:12.213>so <00:21:12.369>we <00:21:12.525>have

499
00:21:14.915 --> 00:21:17.985
<00:21:14.915>total <00:21:15.195>access <00:21:15.475>to <00:21:15.754>people <00:21:16.034>understanding <00:21:16.315>technology.

500
00:21:18.135 --> 00:21:20.745
<00:21:18.135>Yeah. <00:21:18.415>We <00:21:18.695>have <00:21:18.975>extremely <00:21:19.254>good <00:21:19.535>access

501
00:21:20.745 --> 00:21:22.185
<00:21:20.745>to <00:21:21.004>C <00:21:21.263>levels <00:21:21.522>in <00:21:21.781>the <00:21:22.041>meantime

502
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<00:21:22.185>because <00:21:22.312>I <00:21:22.439>think <00:21:22.566>we <00:21:22.694>had <00:21:22.821>2000 <00:21:22.948>C <00:21:23.075>levels <00:21:23.203>at <00:21:23.330>our <00:21:23.457>conference <00:21:23.585>from

503
00:21:26.285 --> 00:21:28.225
<00:21:26.285>really <00:21:26.518>the <00:21:26.751>biggest <00:21:26.985>brands <00:21:27.218>in <00:21:27.451>the <00:21:27.685>world.

504
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<00:21:28.445>And <00:21:28.794>we <00:21:29.145>had <00:21:29.495>1,500 <00:21:29.845>people

505
00:21:30.815 --> 00:21:33.225
<00:21:30.815>that <00:21:31.048>really <00:21:31.281>understand <00:21:31.515>people <00:21:31.748>from <00:21:31.981>the <00:21:32.215>HR

506
00:21:33.245 --> 00:21:34.665
<00:21:33.245>and <00:21:33.564>people <00:21:33.884>and <00:21:34.203>culture <00:21:34.523>teams.

507
00:21:35.645 --> 00:21:37.785
<00:21:35.645>And <00:21:35.878>I <00:21:36.111>think <00:21:36.345>the <00:21:36.578>next <00:21:36.811>logical <00:21:37.045>step

508
00:21:37.805 --> 00:21:40.265
<00:21:37.805>for <00:21:38.005>me <00:21:38.205>is <00:21:38.405>really <00:21:38.605>making <00:21:38.805>this <00:21:39.005>a <00:21:39.205>crossover.

509
00:21:40.415 --> 00:21:43.585
<00:21:40.415>Yeah. <00:21:40.648>Yeah. <00:21:40.881>Really <00:21:41.115>bundling <00:21:41.348>all <00:21:41.581>the <00:21:41.815>energies

510
00:21:43.585 --> 00:21:46.825
<00:21:43.585>because <00:21:43.725>I <00:21:43.865>mean, <00:21:44.005>uh, <00:21:44.145>I'm, <00:21:44.285>I'm, <00:21:44.425>I'm <00:21:44.565>right <00:21:44.705>now <00:21:44.845>preparing <00:21:44.985>kind

511
00:21:46.825 --> 00:21:50.505
<00:21:46.825>of <00:21:47.025>a, <00:21:47.225>a, <00:21:47.425>a <00:21:47.625>keynote <00:21:47.825>talk <00:21:48.025>for <00:21:48.225>myself.

512
00:21:51.205 --> 00:21:53.385
<00:21:51.205>And <00:21:51.554>the <00:21:51.905>topic <00:21:52.254>is <00:21:52.605>more

513
00:21:53.385 --> 00:21:55.985
<00:21:53.385>or <00:21:53.512>less <00:21:53.639>I <00:21:53.766>have <00:21:53.894>called <00:21:54.021>it, <00:21:54.148>it's <00:21:54.275>a <00:21:54.403>working <00:21:54.530>title, <00:21:54.657>it's <00:21:54.785>Trinity

514
00:21:56.645 --> 00:21:57.745
<00:21:56.645>of <00:21:57.139>Future <00:21:57.635>Proofness.

515
00:21:58.325 --> 00:22:00.825
<00:21:58.325>And <00:21:58.480>the <00:21:58.636>thing, <00:21:58.791>if <00:21:58.947>you <00:21:59.102>want <00:21:59.258>to, <00:21:59.413>if <00:21:59.569>you <00:21:59.725>want

516
00:22:00.825 --> 00:22:05.345
<00:22:00.825>to <00:22:00.980>add <00:22:01.136>a <00:22:01.291>company <00:22:01.447>into <00:22:01.602>a <00:22:01.758>future <00:22:01.913>proof, <00:22:02.069>uh, <00:22:02.225>direction,

517
00:22:05.405 --> 00:22:07.905
<00:22:05.405>and <00:22:05.532>if <00:22:05.659>you <00:22:05.786>want <00:22:05.914>to <00:22:06.041>really <00:22:06.168>have <00:22:06.295>the <00:22:06.423>chance <00:22:06.550>to <00:22:06.677>really <00:22:06.805>survive

518
00:22:07.905 --> 00:22:09.865
<00:22:07.905>as <00:22:08.138>organization <00:22:08.371>in <00:22:08.605>times <00:22:08.838>like <00:22:09.071>this, <00:22:09.305>where

519
00:22:10.445 --> 00:22:14.465
<00:22:10.445>we <00:22:10.645>are <00:22:10.845>incredibly <00:22:11.044>fast <00:22:11.245>by, <00:22:11.445>uh, <00:22:11.645>developing <00:22:11.845>technology,

520
00:22:14.895 --> 00:22:16.745
<00:22:14.895>there's <00:22:15.128>a <00:22:15.361>big <00:22:15.595>pressure <00:22:15.828>on <00:22:16.061>the <00:22:16.295>commercial

521
00:22:16.815 --> 00:22:17.945
<00:22:16.815>side <00:22:17.069>on <00:22:17.323>all <00:22:17.577>the <00:22:17.831>markets.

522
00:22:18.685 --> 00:22:20.705
<00:22:18.685>And <00:22:18.965>we <00:22:19.245>are <00:22:19.524>running <00:22:19.804>into <00:22:20.085>kind

523
00:22:20.705 --> 00:22:23.185
<00:22:20.705>of <00:22:21.054>a <00:22:21.405>definitely <00:22:21.754>workforce <00:22:22.105>problem.

524
00:22:23.605 --> 00:22:26.585
<00:22:23.605>Uh, <00:22:23.760>if <00:22:23.916>you <00:22:24.071>look <00:22:24.227>on <00:22:24.382>the <00:22:24.538>cinemagraphic <00:22:24.693>developments <00:22:24.849>all <00:22:25.005>over

525
00:22:26.585 --> 00:22:29.705
<00:22:26.585>the <00:22:26.760>world, <00:22:26.935>I <00:22:27.110>think <00:22:27.285>it, <00:22:27.460>it <00:22:27.635>needs <00:22:27.810>strong <00:22:27.985>focus

526
00:22:29.845 --> 00:22:32.225
<00:22:29.845>and <00:22:30.020>it <00:22:30.195>needs <00:22:30.370>a <00:22:30.545>kind <00:22:30.720>of <00:22:30.895>a <00:22:31.070>balanced <00:22:31.245>trinity

527
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<00:22:32.365>of <00:22:32.731>these <00:22:33.097>three <00:22:33.463>elements.

528
00:22:34.045 --> 00:22:35.785
<00:22:34.045>You <00:22:34.278>need <00:22:34.511>people <00:22:34.745>that <00:22:34.978>understand <00:22:35.211>the <00:22:35.445>business.

529
00:22:36.445 --> 00:22:38.545
<00:22:36.445>You <00:22:36.725>need <00:22:37.004>people <00:22:37.284>that <00:22:37.564>understand <00:22:37.845>technology

530
00:22:39.085 --> 00:22:41.185
<00:22:39.085>and <00:22:39.318>you <00:22:39.551>people <00:22:39.785>still <00:22:40.018>that <00:22:40.251>understand <00:22:40.485>people.

531
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<00:22:41.375>Yeah. <00:22:41.550>And <00:22:41.725>if <00:22:41.900>you <00:22:42.075>combine <00:22:42.250>that <00:22:42.425>in <00:22:42.600>a <00:22:42.775>way

532
00:22:43.585 --> 00:22:46.185
<00:22:43.585>that <00:22:43.740>you <00:22:43.896>really <00:22:44.051>build <00:22:44.207>a <00:22:44.362>kind <00:22:44.518>of <00:22:44.673>a <00:22:44.829>crossover <00:22:44.985>format,

533
00:22:47.025 --> 00:22:48.025
<00:22:47.025>I <00:22:47.205>think <00:22:47.385>you <00:22:47.565>have <00:22:47.745>the <00:22:47.925>chance

534
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<00:22:48.045>to <00:22:48.278>really <00:22:48.511>survive <00:22:48.745>this <00:22:48.978>kind <00:22:49.211>of <00:22:49.445>thing.

535
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<00:22:49.825>Yeah. <00:22:49.980>And, <00:22:50.136>and <00:22:50.291>that's <00:22:50.447>probably <00:22:50.602>the, <00:22:50.758>my, <00:22:50.913>my <00:22:51.069>personal <00:22:51.225>vision.

536
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<00:22:53.005>And <00:22:53.160>we <00:22:53.316>are <00:22:53.471>internally <00:22:53.627>discussing <00:22:53.782>that <00:22:53.938>heavily <00:22:54.093>at <00:22:54.249>the <00:22:54.405>moment.

537
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<00:22:55.415>Yeah. <00:22:55.590>Because <00:22:55.764>I <00:22:55.940>think <00:22:56.115>it <00:22:56.290>makes <00:22:56.465>totally <00:22:56.639>sense <00:22:56.815>to

538
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<00:23:01.255>probably <00:23:01.395>at <00:23:01.535>DHR <00:23:01.675>side <00:23:01.815>put <00:23:01.955>the <00:23:02.095>developer <00:23:02.235>on <00:23:02.375>stage <00:23:02.515>telling <00:23:02.655>them

539
00:23:04.715 --> 00:23:05.935
<00:23:04.715>how <00:23:04.989>to <00:23:05.264>build <00:23:05.538>their <00:23:05.812>agent.

540
00:23:06.115 --> 00:23:09.495
<00:23:06.115>And <00:23:06.242>on <00:23:06.369>the <00:23:06.496>other <00:23:06.624>hand, <00:23:06.751>to <00:23:06.878>really <00:23:07.005>have <00:23:07.133>a <00:23:07.260>kind <00:23:07.387>of, <00:23:07.515>um,

541
00:23:09.765 --> 00:23:13.255
<00:23:09.765>putting <00:23:09.905>someone <00:23:10.045>who <00:23:10.185>is <00:23:10.325>in <00:23:10.465>mental <00:23:10.605>health <00:23:10.745>on <00:23:10.885>a <00:23:11.025>c-level <00:23:11.165>stage

542
00:23:13.275 --> 00:23:16.655
<00:23:13.275>to <00:23:13.450>really <00:23:13.625>kind <00:23:13.800>of <00:23:13.975>open <00:23:14.150>up <00:23:14.325>the <00:23:14.500>minds <00:23:14.675>how

543
00:23:16.655 --> 00:23:17.695
<00:23:16.655>to <00:23:16.966>create <00:23:17.279>safe <00:23:17.591>spaces.

544
00:23:17.695 --> 00:23:19.335
<00:23:17.695>Because <00:23:17.895>at <00:23:18.095>the <00:23:18.294>end <00:23:18.495>of <00:23:18.695>the <00:23:18.895>day, <00:23:19.095>if,

545
00:23:19.475 --> 00:23:22.935
<00:23:19.475>if <00:23:19.649>this <00:23:19.824>triangle <00:23:20.000>gets <00:23:20.175>an <00:23:20.350>unbalanced <00:23:20.524>in <00:23:20.699>a <00:23:20.875>way,

546
00:23:23.055 --> 00:23:25.615
<00:23:23.055>I <00:23:23.182>think <00:23:23.309>it <00:23:23.436>definitely <00:23:23.564>will <00:23:23.691>end <00:23:23.818>up <00:23:23.945>in <00:23:24.073>a <00:23:24.200>disaster <00:23:24.327>for <00:23:24.455>the

547
00:23:25.615 --> 00:23:26.615
<00:23:25.615>Company. <00:23:26.515>Yeah,

548
00:23:26.615 --> 00:23:27.415
<00:23:26.615>I <00:23:26.975>totally <00:23:27.335>agree.

549
00:23:27.615 --> 00:23:29.295
<00:23:27.615>I <00:23:27.815>think <00:23:28.015>it's <00:23:28.215>a <00:23:28.415>really <00:23:28.615>exciting <00:23:28.815>approach <00:23:29.015>just

550
00:23:29.295 --> 00:23:31.855
<00:23:29.295>because <00:23:29.495>also <00:23:29.695>it <00:23:29.895>happens <00:23:30.095>so <00:23:30.295>organically, <00:23:30.495>like <00:23:30.695>the,

551
00:23:32.115 --> 00:23:35.255
<00:23:32.115>the <00:23:32.290>audience <00:23:32.465>kind <00:23:32.640>of <00:23:32.815>happened <00:23:32.990>organically <00:23:33.165>at <00:23:33.340>our <00:23:33.515>event

552
00:23:35.755 --> 00:23:38.375
<00:23:35.755>and <00:23:35.895>now <00:23:36.035>we <00:23:36.175>just <00:23:36.315>need <00:23:36.455>to <00:23:36.595>put <00:23:36.735>them <00:23:36.875>on <00:23:37.015>stage <00:23:37.155>together.

553
00:23:38.395 --> 00:23:40.375
<00:23:38.395>Mm-hmm. <00:23:38.628>And <00:23:38.861>I <00:23:39.095>think <00:23:39.328>that <00:23:39.561>that's <00:23:39.795>something

554
00:23:40.375 --> 00:23:43.295
<00:23:40.375>that <00:23:40.530>also <00:23:40.686>is <00:23:40.841>a <00:23:40.997>key <00:23:41.152>takeaway <00:23:41.308>from <00:23:41.463>this <00:23:41.619>year's <00:23:41.775>event.

555
00:23:43.875 --> 00:23:47.605
<00:23:43.875>Um, <00:23:44.030>the <00:23:44.186>hands-on <00:23:44.341>workshops, <00:23:44.497>even <00:23:44.652>though <00:23:44.808>they <00:23:44.963>were <00:23:45.119>only <00:23:45.275>20,

556
00:23:47.605 --> 00:23:51.285
<00:23:47.605>30 <00:23:47.838>minutes <00:23:48.071>very <00:23:48.305>digestible, <00:23:48.538>they <00:23:48.771>were <00:23:49.005>overcrowded,

557
00:23:51.395 --> 00:23:53.645
<00:23:51.395>like <00:23:51.570>people <00:23:51.745>were <00:23:51.920>standing, <00:23:52.095>no <00:23:52.270>one <00:23:52.445>could <00:23:52.620>even <00:23:52.795>see.

558
00:23:53.665 --> 00:23:56.765
<00:23:53.665>But <00:23:53.820>they <00:23:53.976>really <00:23:54.131>wanted <00:23:54.287>to <00:23:54.442>hear <00:23:54.598>all <00:23:54.753>those <00:23:54.909>hands-on <00:23:55.065>workshops.

559
00:23:57.225 --> 00:23:59.925
<00:23:57.225>And <00:23:57.365>I <00:23:57.504>think <00:23:57.645>if <00:23:57.784>we <00:23:57.925>can <00:23:58.064>manage <00:23:58.205>to <00:23:58.344>do <00:23:58.485>that <00:23:58.625>more,

560
00:24:00.525 --> 00:24:02.685
<00:24:00.525>I <00:24:00.680>think <00:24:00.836>it's <00:24:00.991>gonna <00:24:01.147>be <00:24:01.302>even <00:24:01.458>better <00:24:01.613>than <00:24:01.769>this <00:24:01.925>year.

561
00:24:03.145 --> 00:24:06.485
<00:24:03.145>And <00:24:03.300>then <00:24:03.456>combining <00:24:03.611>HR <00:24:03.767>and <00:24:03.922>tech <00:24:04.078>and <00:24:04.233>the <00:24:04.389>decision <00:24:04.545>makers

562
00:24:06.485 --> 00:24:07.965
<00:24:06.485>and <00:24:06.751>leaders <00:24:07.017>all <00:24:07.284>on <00:24:07.550>one <00:24:07.817>stage,

563
00:24:08.125 --> 00:24:11.285
<00:24:08.125>I <00:24:08.265>think <00:24:08.405>this <00:24:08.545>is <00:24:08.685>actually <00:24:08.825>really <00:24:08.965>this <00:24:09.105>gap <00:24:09.245>we <00:24:09.385>always <00:24:09.525>talk

564
00:24:11.285 --> 00:24:14.565
<00:24:11.285>about <00:24:11.425>and <00:24:11.565>that <00:24:11.705>we <00:24:11.845>see <00:24:11.985>in <00:24:12.125>the <00:24:12.265>corridors <00:24:12.405>at <00:24:12.545>the <00:24:12.685>stands.

565
00:24:15.025 --> 00:24:17.285
<00:24:15.025>But <00:24:15.200>doing <00:24:15.375>that <00:24:15.550>on <00:24:15.725>stage <00:24:15.900>I <00:24:16.075>think <00:24:16.250>will <00:24:16.425>bring

566
00:24:17.285 --> 00:24:18.445
<00:24:17.285>this <00:24:17.493>definitely <00:24:17.702>to <00:24:17.911>the <00:24:18.120>next <00:24:18.329>level.

567
00:24:18.635 --> 00:24:19.685
<00:24:18.635>Very <00:24:19.107>exciting. <00:24:19.580>Hmm.

568
00:24:20.185 --> 00:24:21.765
<00:24:20.185>And <00:24:20.418>I <00:24:20.651>mean, <00:24:20.885>we <00:24:21.118>are <00:24:21.351>multiplying <00:24:21.585>our,

569
00:24:22.345 --> 00:24:23.645
<00:24:22.345>so <00:24:22.579>I'm <00:24:22.813>Nick <00:24:23.047>for <00:24:23.281>next <00:24:23.514>year.

570
00:24:23.685 --> 00:24:25.765
<00:24:23.685>I <00:24:23.840>mean, <00:24:23.996>we, <00:24:24.151>we <00:24:24.307>announced <00:24:24.462>that <00:24:24.618>in <00:24:24.773>Berlin <00:24:24.929>this <00:24:25.085>year

571
00:24:25.765 --> 00:24:27.205
<00:24:25.765>that <00:24:26.024>there <00:24:26.283>will <00:24:26.542>be <00:24:26.801>another <00:24:27.061>kind

572
00:24:27.205 --> 00:24:29.125
<00:24:27.205>of <00:24:27.485>World <00:24:27.764>Congress <00:24:28.044>in <00:24:28.324>Northern <00:24:28.605>America,

573
00:24:29.345 --> 00:24:33.205
<00:24:29.345>so <00:24:29.485>it'll <00:24:29.625>be <00:24:29.765>in <00:24:29.905>September <00:24:30.045>in, <00:24:30.185>in, <00:24:30.325>in <00:24:30.465>San <00:24:30.605>Jose. <00:24:30.745>So

574
00:24:33.625 --> 00:24:37.845
<00:24:33.625>Get <00:24:33.975>your <00:24:34.325>tickets <00:24:34.675>And, <00:24:35.025>and,

575
00:24:38.145 --> 00:24:41.845
<00:24:38.145>and <00:24:38.261>we, <00:24:38.378>we <00:24:38.495>are <00:24:38.611>planning <00:24:38.728>an <00:24:38.845>edition <00:24:38.961>now <00:24:39.078>in, <00:24:39.195>in <00:24:39.311>Asia <00:24:39.428>as <00:24:39.545>well.

576
00:24:41.905 --> 00:24:42.925
<00:24:41.905>So <00:24:42.211>in <00:24:42.517>India. <00:24:42.822>Yeah.

577
00:24:43.185 --> 00:24:46.045
<00:24:43.185>So <00:24:43.284>at <00:24:43.385>the <00:24:43.485>end <00:24:43.585>of <00:24:43.685>the <00:24:43.784>day, <00:24:43.885>I <00:24:43.985>think <00:24:44.085>what <00:24:44.185>we, <00:24:44.284>not <00:24:44.385>what <00:24:44.485>we <00:24:44.585>now,

578
00:24:47.185 --> 00:24:49.925
<00:24:47.185>the <00:24:47.340>future <00:24:47.496>plan <00:24:47.651>is <00:24:47.807>to <00:24:47.962>really <00:24:48.118>roll <00:24:48.273>it <00:24:48.429>out <00:24:48.585>globally.

579
00:24:50.115 --> 00:24:51.805
<00:24:50.115>Yeah. <00:24:50.348>Because <00:24:50.581>I <00:24:50.815>think <00:24:51.048>the <00:24:51.281>needs <00:24:51.515>are

580
00:24:51.805 --> 00:24:52.885
<00:24:51.805>the <00:24:51.999>same <00:24:52.193>all <00:24:52.388>over <00:24:52.582>the <00:24:52.777>place.

581
00:24:53.035 --> 00:24:56.645
<00:24:53.035>Yeah. <00:24:53.162>And <00:24:53.289>I <00:24:53.416>mean, <00:24:53.544>what, <00:24:53.671>what <00:24:53.798>we <00:24:53.925>should <00:24:54.053>not <00:24:54.180>forget, <00:24:54.307>I <00:24:54.435>mean,

582
00:24:56.645 --> 00:24:59.525
<00:24:56.645>at <00:24:56.772>the <00:24:56.899>end <00:24:57.026>of <00:24:57.154>the <00:24:57.281>day, <00:24:57.408>we <00:24:57.535>are <00:24:57.663>not <00:24:57.790>a <00:24:57.917>conference <00:24:58.045>company

583
00:24:59.785 --> 00:25:01.405
<00:24:59.785>and <00:24:59.960>I <00:25:00.135>think <00:25:00.310>we <00:25:00.485>are <00:25:00.660>not <00:25:00.835>an <00:25:01.010>event <00:25:01.185>company

584
00:25:02.065 --> 00:25:04.645
<00:25:02.065>and <00:25:02.240>we <00:25:02.415>use, <00:25:02.590>probably <00:25:02.765>use <00:25:02.940>this <00:25:03.115>kind <00:25:03.290>of, <00:25:03.465>um,

585
00:25:04.935 --> 00:25:07.285
<00:25:04.935>world <00:25:05.135>Congress <00:25:05.335>in <00:25:05.534>Berlin <00:25:05.735>and <00:25:05.935>in <00:25:06.135>Northern <00:25:06.335>America

586
00:25:07.345 --> 00:25:12.015
<00:25:07.345>and <00:25:07.485>in <00:25:07.625>India, <00:25:07.765>just <00:25:07.905>this <00:25:08.045>kind <00:25:08.185>of <00:25:08.325>flagship <00:25:08.465>events <00:25:08.605>for <00:25:08.745>showing

587
00:25:12.085 --> 00:25:13.775
<00:25:12.085>what <00:25:12.318>we <00:25:12.551>do <00:25:12.785>and <00:25:13.018>bringing <00:25:13.251>people <00:25:13.485>together.

588
00:25:13.775 --> 00:25:16.375
<00:25:13.775>Yeah. <00:25:13.891>At <00:25:14.008>the <00:25:14.125>end <00:25:14.241>of <00:25:14.358>the <00:25:14.475>day, <00:25:14.591>we <00:25:14.708>do <00:25:14.825>that <00:25:14.941>throughout <00:25:15.058>the <00:25:15.175>year

589
00:25:17.035 --> 00:25:19.255
<00:25:17.035>and <00:25:17.268>what's <00:25:17.501>happening <00:25:17.735>in <00:25:17.968>the <00:25:18.201>background <00:25:18.435>that,

590
00:25:19.255 --> 00:25:20.535
<00:25:19.255>that's <00:25:19.485>really <00:25:19.715>amazing <00:25:19.946>at <00:25:20.176>the <00:25:20.407>moment.

591
00:25:20.755 --> 00:25:22.495
<00:25:20.755>Uh, <00:25:21.035>it's <00:25:21.315>really <00:25:21.595>inspiring <00:25:21.875>for <00:25:22.155>me

592
00:25:22.555 --> 00:25:26.175
<00:25:22.555>and <00:25:22.710>it, <00:25:22.866>my, <00:25:23.021>my <00:25:23.177>head <00:25:23.332>is, <00:25:23.488>is <00:25:23.643>rumbling, <00:25:23.799>uh, <00:25:23.955>uh,

593
00:25:26.175 --> 00:25:30.415
<00:25:26.175>24 <00:25:26.315>7 <00:25:26.455>at <00:25:26.595>the <00:25:26.735>moment <00:25:26.875>because <00:25:27.014>I <00:25:27.155>see <00:25:27.294>so <00:25:27.435>many <00:25:27.575>benefits

594
00:25:30.595 --> 00:25:32.535
<00:25:30.595>and <00:25:30.875>potential <00:25:31.155>in <00:25:31.435>within <00:25:31.715>that <00:25:31.995>is

595
00:25:32.535 --> 00:25:35.815
<00:25:32.535>that <00:25:32.690>we <00:25:32.846>have <00:25:33.001>put <00:25:33.157>all <00:25:33.312>our <00:25:33.468>content <00:25:33.623>through <00:25:33.779>ai <00:25:33.935>Yeah.

596
00:25:36.315 --> 00:25:41.295
<00:25:36.315>And <00:25:36.455>we <00:25:36.595>now <00:25:36.735>get <00:25:36.875>a <00:25:37.015>kind <00:25:37.155>of, <00:25:37.295>uh, <00:25:37.435>a <00:25:37.575>platform <00:25:37.715>functionality

597
00:25:41.355 --> 00:25:43.055
<00:25:41.355>and <00:25:41.588>new, <00:25:41.821>new <00:25:42.055>features <00:25:42.288>on <00:25:42.521>the <00:25:42.755>platform,

598
00:25:43.055 --> 00:25:48.015
<00:25:43.055>which <00:25:43.182>really <00:25:43.309>give <00:25:43.436>you <00:25:43.564>the <00:25:43.691>chance <00:25:43.818>to <00:25:43.945>really <00:25:44.073>support <00:25:44.200>it <00:25:44.327>by <00:25:44.455>ai,

599
00:25:48.355 --> 00:25:51.095
<00:25:48.355>get <00:25:48.555>very <00:25:48.755>fast <00:25:48.955>to <00:25:49.155>that <00:25:49.355>pieces <00:25:49.555>of <00:25:49.755>content

600
00:25:51.165 --> 00:25:53.175
<00:25:51.165>that <00:25:51.445>can <00:25:51.725>really <00:25:52.004>interesting <00:25:52.284>for <00:25:52.565>you.

601
00:25:53.395 --> 00:25:56.215
<00:25:53.395>So <00:25:53.570>it's <00:25:53.745>more <00:25:53.920>or <00:25:54.095>less <00:25:54.270>AI <00:25:54.445>supported <00:25:54.620>learning. <00:25:54.795>Yeah.

602
00:25:56.995 --> 00:25:58.335
<00:25:56.995>And <00:25:57.397>you <00:25:57.799>get <00:25:58.201>kind

603
00:25:58.335 --> 00:26:01.735
<00:25:58.335>of <00:25:58.490>can <00:25:58.646>create <00:25:58.801>your <00:25:58.957>own <00:25:59.112>educational <00:25:59.268>program <00:25:59.423>if <00:25:59.579>you're <00:25:59.735>a

604
00:26:01.735 --> 00:26:03.335
<00:26:01.735>developer, <00:26:01.968>but <00:26:02.201>also <00:26:02.435>if <00:26:02.668>you're <00:26:02.901>in <00:26:03.135>HR

605
00:26:03.395 --> 00:26:05.615
<00:26:03.395>and <00:26:03.628>also <00:26:03.861>if <00:26:04.095>you're <00:26:04.328>probably <00:26:04.561>in <00:26:04.795>leadership.

606
00:26:05.765 --> 00:26:09.175
<00:26:05.765>Yeah. <00:26:05.940>And <00:26:06.115>I <00:26:06.290>think <00:26:06.465>that's <00:26:06.640>a <00:26:06.815>big, <00:26:06.990>big <00:26:07.165>asset.

607
00:26:09.195 --> 00:26:13.575
<00:26:09.195>And <00:26:09.335>all <00:26:09.475>the <00:26:09.615>sessions <00:26:09.754>were <00:26:09.895>recorded <00:26:10.034>so <00:26:10.175>people <00:26:10.314>have <00:26:10.455>access <00:26:10.595>to

608
00:26:13.805 --> 00:26:15.775
<00:26:13.805>what <00:26:14.085>all <00:26:14.365>the <00:26:14.645>experts, <00:26:14.925>um, <00:26:15.205>more

609
00:26:15.775 --> 00:26:18.295
<00:26:15.775>or <00:26:15.915>less, <00:26:16.055>uh, <00:26:16.195>told <00:26:16.335>us <00:26:16.475>within <00:26:16.615>the <00:26:16.755>two <00:26:16.895>days <00:26:17.035>in <00:26:17.175>Berlin.

610
00:26:18.605 --> 00:26:21.255
<00:26:18.605>Yeah, <00:26:18.838>absolutely. <00:26:19.071>It's <00:26:19.305>an <00:26:19.538>amazing <00:26:19.771>content <00:26:20.005>engine.

611
00:26:21.535 --> 00:26:23.735
<00:26:21.535>I <00:26:21.690>mean, <00:26:21.846>it <00:26:22.001>couldn't <00:26:22.157>be <00:26:22.312>better <00:26:22.468>for <00:26:22.623>the <00:26:22.779>marketing <00:26:22.935>team

612
00:26:25.195 --> 00:26:27.695
<00:26:25.195>to <00:26:25.350>keep <00:26:25.506>the <00:26:25.661>momentum <00:26:25.817>going <00:26:25.972>for <00:26:26.128>the <00:26:26.283>next <00:26:26.439>couple <00:26:26.595>months

613
00:26:27.835 --> 00:26:31.535
<00:26:27.835>and <00:26:27.975>also <00:26:28.115>make <00:26:28.255>sure <00:26:28.395>that, <00:26:28.535>um, <00:26:28.675>old <00:26:28.815>content <00:26:28.955>gets <00:26:29.095>recycled <00:26:29.235>and,

614
00:26:31.975 --> 00:26:33.535
<00:26:31.975>'cause <00:26:32.175>a <00:26:32.375>lot <00:26:32.574>of <00:26:32.774>things <00:26:32.975>stay <00:26:33.175>relevant, <00:26:33.375>right?

615
00:26:33.535 --> 00:26:35.775
<00:26:33.535>Mm-hmm. <00:26:33.710>I <00:26:33.885>mean, <00:26:34.060>what <00:26:34.235>we <00:26:34.410>said <00:26:34.585>about <00:26:34.760>mental <00:26:34.935>health

616
00:26:35.875 --> 00:26:38.175
<00:26:35.875>and <00:26:36.050>our <00:26:36.225>career <00:26:36.400>development <00:26:36.575>five <00:26:36.750>years <00:26:36.925>ago <00:26:37.100>is <00:26:37.275>still

617
00:26:38.455 --> 00:26:39.495
<00:26:38.455>relevant <00:26:38.642>to <00:26:38.829>compare <00:26:39.016>to <00:26:39.203>this <00:26:39.390>year.

618
00:26:39.855 --> 00:26:42.255
<00:26:39.855>'cause <00:26:40.010>then <00:26:40.166>you <00:26:40.321>can <00:26:40.477>compare <00:26:40.632>and <00:26:40.788>draw <00:26:40.943>conclusions <00:26:41.099>from <00:26:41.255>it.

619
00:26:42.595 --> 00:26:44.085
<00:26:42.595>So <00:26:42.863>yeah. <00:26:43.131>Really <00:26:43.399>cool <00:26:43.667>things <00:26:43.936>happening.

620
00:26:44.755 --> 00:26:47.645
<00:26:44.755>What <00:26:44.882>is <00:26:45.009>your, <00:26:45.136>what <00:26:45.264>what, <00:26:45.391>what <00:26:45.518>is <00:26:45.645>your <00:26:45.773>plan <00:26:45.900>for <00:26:46.027>next <00:26:46.155>year?

621
00:26:47.785 --> 00:26:51.165
<00:26:47.785>If <00:26:47.912>or <00:26:48.039>your <00:26:48.166>wishlist, <00:26:48.294>what <00:26:48.421>is <00:26:48.548>on <00:26:48.675>your <00:26:48.803>wishlist <00:26:48.930>for <00:26:49.057>next <00:26:49.185>year?

622
00:26:51.675 --> 00:26:53.365
<00:26:51.675>Well, <00:26:51.908>working <00:26:52.141>with <00:26:52.375>you <00:26:52.608>on <00:26:52.841>the <00:26:53.075>project?

623
00:26:55.865 --> 00:26:59.205
<00:26:55.865>No, <00:26:56.005>actually, <00:26:56.145>um, <00:26:56.285>I <00:26:56.425>think <00:26:56.565>that <00:26:56.705>I <00:26:56.845>would <00:26:56.985>repeat <00:26:57.125>a <00:26:57.265>lot

624
00:26:59.205 --> 00:27:00.485
<00:26:59.205>of <00:26:59.397>things <00:26:59.589>that <00:26:59.781>we <00:26:59.973>did <00:27:00.165>this <00:27:00.357>year.

625
00:27:00.625 --> 00:27:03.525
<00:27:00.625>Mm-hmm. <00:27:00.905>Um, <00:27:01.185>I <00:27:01.465>think <00:27:01.745>agenda <00:27:02.025>wise,

626
00:27:03.865 --> 00:27:05.605
<00:27:03.865>we <00:27:04.098>were <00:27:04.331>already <00:27:04.565>in <00:27:04.798>a <00:27:05.031>great <00:27:05.265>direction.

627
00:27:05.815 --> 00:27:07.085
<00:27:05.815>Maybe <00:27:06.100>as <00:27:06.386>I <00:27:06.672>already <00:27:06.958>teased

628
00:27:07.085 --> 00:27:10.365
<00:27:07.085>before, <00:27:07.285>go <00:27:07.485>more <00:27:07.685>into <00:27:07.885>this <00:27:08.085>hands-on <00:27:08.285>workshop <00:27:08.485>experience.

629
00:27:10.365 --> 00:27:13.205
<00:27:10.365>Mm-hmm. <00:27:10.565>So <00:27:10.765>that <00:27:10.965>also <00:27:11.165>more <00:27:11.365>senior <00:27:11.565>level <00:27:11.765>people

630
00:27:13.265 --> 00:27:15.885
<00:27:13.265>who <00:27:13.465>are <00:27:13.665>already <00:27:13.865>um, <00:27:14.065>very <00:27:14.265>aware <00:27:14.465>of <00:27:14.665>some

631
00:27:15.885 --> 00:27:18.485
<00:27:15.885>of <00:27:16.085>the <00:27:16.285>trends <00:27:16.485>can <00:27:16.685>dive <00:27:16.885>deeper <00:27:17.085>into <00:27:17.285>how

632
00:27:18.545 --> 00:27:21.405
<00:27:18.545>to <00:27:18.720>actually <00:27:18.895>build <00:27:19.070>their <00:27:19.245>own <00:27:19.420>in <00:27:19.595>a <00:27:19.770>AI <00:27:19.945>agent.

633
00:27:21.425 --> 00:27:23.285
<00:27:21.425>And <00:27:21.600>not <00:27:21.774>only <00:27:21.950>talk <00:27:22.125>about <00:27:22.300>the <00:27:22.475>relevance <00:27:22.649>of <00:27:22.825>it.

634
00:27:24.005 --> 00:27:25.485
<00:27:24.005>'cause <00:27:24.195>that <00:27:24.385>was <00:27:24.575>also <00:27:24.766>one <00:27:24.956>of <00:27:25.146>the <00:27:25.337>feedbacks.

635
00:27:25.485 --> 00:27:27.845
<00:27:25.485>Depending <00:27:25.718>on <00:27:25.951>the <00:27:26.185>seniority, <00:27:26.418>other <00:27:26.651>people <00:27:26.885>want

636
00:27:27.845 --> 00:27:28.965
<00:27:27.845>to <00:27:28.046>see <00:27:28.248>other <00:27:28.449>things <00:27:28.651>on <00:27:28.852>stage.

637
00:27:28.965 --> 00:27:30.805
<00:27:28.965>Mm-hmm. <00:27:29.198>But <00:27:29.431>that's <00:27:29.665>also <00:27:29.898>the <00:27:30.131>challenge, <00:27:30.365>right?

638
00:27:30.985 --> 00:27:32.485
<00:27:30.985>In <00:27:31.322>curating <00:27:31.659>the <00:27:31.997>program. <00:27:32.334>Mm-hmm.

639
00:27:32.565 --> 00:27:34.245
<00:27:32.565>So <00:27:32.720>I <00:27:32.876>think <00:27:33.031>definitely <00:27:33.187>this <00:27:33.342>is <00:27:33.498>one <00:27:33.653>of <00:27:33.809>the <00:27:33.965>things.

640
00:27:34.705 --> 00:27:37.365
<00:27:34.705>And <00:27:34.905>then <00:27:35.105>also <00:27:35.304>take <00:27:35.504>a <00:27:35.705>step <00:27:35.905>back, <00:27:36.105>uh,

641
00:27:37.365 --> 00:27:41.405
<00:27:37.365>while <00:27:37.505>take <00:27:37.645>a <00:27:37.785>step <00:27:37.925>further <00:27:38.065>to, <00:27:38.205>uh, <00:27:38.345>think <00:27:38.485>of <00:27:38.625>the <00:27:38.765>activities

642
00:27:41.505 --> 00:27:42.565
<00:27:41.505>around <00:27:41.982>the <00:27:42.459>stages.

643
00:27:42.905 --> 00:27:46.285
<00:27:42.905>So <00:27:43.045>this <00:27:43.185>year <00:27:43.325>we <00:27:43.465>had <00:27:43.605>the <00:27:43.745>CV <00:27:43.885>coachings <00:27:44.024>where <00:27:44.165>we <00:27:44.305>collaborate

644
00:27:46.285 --> 00:27:48.965
<00:27:46.285>with <00:27:46.440>talent <00:27:46.596>crunch, <00:27:46.751>but <00:27:46.907>also <00:27:47.062>we <00:27:47.218>had <00:27:47.373>the <00:27:47.529>breathwork <00:27:47.685>stations.

645
00:27:49.365 --> 00:27:52.445
<00:27:49.365>I <00:27:49.520>think <00:27:49.676>we <00:27:49.831>can <00:27:49.987>do <00:27:50.142>even <00:27:50.298>more <00:27:50.453>things, <00:27:50.609>more <00:27:50.765>activities,

646
00:27:52.655 --> 00:27:56.405
<00:27:52.655>maybe <00:27:52.810>also <00:27:52.966>in <00:27:53.121>some <00:27:53.277>playful <00:27:53.432>ways <00:27:53.588>how <00:27:53.743>to <00:27:53.899>gamify <00:27:54.055>some

647
00:27:56.405 --> 00:27:57.565
<00:27:56.405>of <00:27:56.753>the <00:27:57.101>key <00:27:57.449>aspects.

648
00:27:58.165 --> 00:28:00.045
<00:27:58.165>'cause <00:27:58.365>I <00:27:58.565>think <00:27:58.764>that <00:27:58.965>this <00:27:59.165>really <00:27:59.365>sticks. <00:27:59.565>Mm-hmm.

649
00:28:00.305 --> 00:28:02.685
<00:28:00.305>Um, <00:28:00.460>so <00:28:00.616>that's <00:28:00.771>something <00:28:00.927>that <00:28:01.082>I <00:28:01.238>would <00:28:01.393>wanna <00:28:01.549>work <00:28:01.705>on.

650
00:28:02.685 --> 00:28:05.325
<00:28:02.685>Definitely <00:28:02.885>also <00:28:03.085>from <00:28:03.284>a <00:28:03.485>marketing <00:28:03.685>and <00:28:03.885>events <00:28:04.085>perspective.

651
00:28:05.905 --> 00:28:08.805
<00:28:05.905>But <00:28:06.045>apart <00:28:06.185>from <00:28:06.325>that, <00:28:06.465>I'm <00:28:06.605>very <00:28:06.745>curious <00:28:06.885>how <00:28:07.024>it <00:28:07.165>will <00:28:07.305>kind

652
00:28:08.805 --> 00:28:10.365
<00:28:08.805>of <00:28:09.085>create <00:28:09.365>this <00:28:09.645>trinity <00:28:09.925>on <00:28:10.205>stage.

653
00:28:10.485 --> 00:28:13.725
<00:28:10.485>I <00:28:10.640>think <00:28:10.796>this <00:28:10.951>will <00:28:11.107>be <00:28:11.262>challenging, <00:28:11.418>but <00:28:11.573>great <00:28:11.729>fun. <00:28:11.885>Mm-hmm.

654
00:28:15.115 --> 00:28:17.205
<00:28:15.115>Yeah, <00:28:15.348>I <00:28:15.581>mean, <00:28:15.815>I <00:28:16.048>really <00:28:16.281>enjoyed <00:28:16.515>it.

655
00:28:17.285 --> 00:28:19.845
<00:28:17.285>I <00:28:17.412>think <00:28:17.539>we <00:28:17.666>are <00:28:17.794>coming <00:28:17.921>to <00:28:18.048>the <00:28:18.175>end <00:28:18.303>of <00:28:18.430>the <00:28:18.557>time, <00:28:18.685>so

656
00:28:20.705 --> 00:28:23.005
<00:28:20.705>it <00:28:20.860>was <00:28:21.016>a <00:28:21.171>pleasure <00:28:21.327>to <00:28:21.482>do <00:28:21.638>that <00:28:21.793>project <00:28:21.949>with <00:28:22.105>you.

657
00:28:23.035 --> 00:28:25.485
<00:28:23.035>It's <00:28:23.175>also <00:28:23.315>a <00:28:23.455>pleasure <00:28:23.595>to <00:28:23.735>do <00:28:23.875>all <00:28:24.015>the <00:28:24.155>cappuccino <00:28:24.295>with <00:28:24.435>hr.

658
00:28:26.145 --> 00:28:29.085
<00:28:26.145>Uh, <00:28:26.320>I <00:28:26.495>thank, <00:28:26.670>I <00:28:26.845>won't <00:28:27.020>officially <00:28:27.195>say <00:28:27.370>in <00:28:27.545>front

659
00:28:29.085 --> 00:28:31.045
<00:28:29.085>of <00:28:29.285>the <00:28:29.485>camera <00:28:29.685>thank <00:28:29.885>you <00:28:30.085>to <00:28:30.285>all <00:28:30.485>your

660
00:28:31.045 --> 00:28:32.085
<00:28:31.045>effort <00:28:31.232>that <00:28:31.419>you <00:28:31.606>have <00:28:31.793>put <00:28:31.981>in.

661
00:28:32.145 --> 00:28:37.085
<00:28:32.145>It <00:28:32.261>was <00:28:32.378>a <00:28:32.495>hell <00:28:32.611>of <00:28:32.728>a <00:28:32.845>lot <00:28:32.961>of <00:28:33.078>work <00:28:33.195>'cause <00:28:33.311>I'm <00:28:33.428>on <00:28:33.545>stage

662
00:28:37.085 --> 00:28:38.485
<00:28:37.085>and <00:28:37.400>I'm <00:28:37.715>always <00:28:38.030>well <00:28:38.344>prepared.

663
00:28:39.275 --> 00:28:42.685
<00:28:39.275>Just, <00:28:39.450>just <00:28:39.625>get <00:28:39.800>taking <00:28:39.975>some <00:28:40.150>notes <00:28:40.325>and, <00:28:40.500>and, <00:28:40.675>and,

664
00:28:42.685 --> 00:28:45.005
<00:28:42.685>and <00:28:42.860>doing <00:28:43.034>some <00:28:43.210>kind <00:28:43.385>of, <00:28:43.560>of, <00:28:43.735>of <00:28:43.909>nice <00:28:44.085>chats.

665
00:28:45.005 --> 00:28:46.925
<00:28:45.005>But <00:28:45.132>there's <00:28:45.259>a <00:28:45.386>hell <00:28:45.514>of <00:28:45.641>a <00:28:45.768>lot <00:28:45.895>of <00:28:46.023>work <00:28:46.150>in <00:28:46.277>the <00:28:46.405>back

666
00:28:46.925 --> 00:28:48.125
<00:28:46.925>and <00:28:47.141>it's <00:28:47.357>mainly <00:28:47.572>done <00:28:47.789>by <00:28:48.005>you.

667
00:28:48.665 --> 00:28:49.925
<00:28:48.665>So <00:28:48.854>thank <00:28:49.043>you <00:28:49.232>very <00:28:49.421>much <00:28:49.610>for <00:28:49.799>that.

668
00:28:50.105 --> 00:28:52.325
<00:28:50.105>And <00:28:50.385>great <00:28:50.665>pleasure <00:28:50.945>working <00:28:51.225>with <00:28:51.505>you

669
00:28:52.625 --> 00:28:56.085
<00:28:52.625>and <00:28:52.780>looking <00:28:52.936>forward <00:28:53.091>to <00:28:53.247>all <00:28:53.402>our <00:28:53.558>HR <00:28:53.713>leader <00:28:53.869>summits <00:28:54.025>or

670
00:28:56.085 --> 00:28:57.725
<00:28:56.085>however <00:28:56.365>we <00:28:56.645>call <00:28:56.925>them <00:28:57.205>next <00:28:57.485>year.

671
00:28:57.955 --> 00:28:59.725
<00:28:57.955>Yeah. <00:28:58.188>Stay <00:28:58.421>tuned <00:28:58.655>for <00:28:58.888>that <00:28:59.121>as <00:28:59.355>well.

672
00:29:01.015 --> 00:29:03.765
<00:29:01.015>Don't <00:29:01.170>be, <00:29:01.326>don't <00:29:01.481>be <00:29:01.637>confused <00:29:01.792>if <00:29:01.948>the <00:29:02.103>name <00:29:02.259>changes <00:29:02.415>again.

673
00:29:03.765 --> 00:29:04.885
<00:29:03.765>Yeah. <00:29:04.269>So <00:29:04.773>we

674
00:29:04.885 --> 00:29:07.005
<00:29:04.885>Gotta <00:29:05.165>keep <00:29:05.445>it <00:29:05.725>up <00:29:06.004>to <00:29:06.285>date.

675
00:29:08.265 --> 00:29:10.565
<00:29:08.265>Um, <00:29:08.545>yeah. <00:29:08.825>Thank <00:29:09.105>you <00:29:09.385>for <00:29:09.665>listening

676
00:29:10.745 --> 00:29:13.725
<00:29:10.745>and <00:29:10.945>stay <00:29:11.145>tuned <00:29:11.344>for <00:29:11.544>what <00:29:11.745>comes <00:29:11.945>up <00:29:12.145>next.

677
00:29:14.015 --> 00:29:15.325
<00:29:14.015>Thank <00:29:14.250>you <00:29:14.486>Rudy, <00:29:14.722>for <00:29:14.958>having <00:29:15.194>me.

678
00:29:15.325 --> 00:29:17.365
<00:29:15.325>Always <00:29:15.525>a <00:29:15.725>great <00:29:15.925>pleasure <00:29:16.125>working <00:29:16.325>with <00:29:16.525>you. <00:29:16.725>Thanks.

679
00:29:21.435 --> 00:29:23.465
<00:29:21.435>Thank <00:29:21.668>you <00:29:21.901>for <00:29:22.135>watching <00:29:22.368>Cappuccino <00:29:22.601>with <00:29:22.835>hr.

680
00:29:23.465 --> 00:29:26.145
<00:29:23.465>If <00:29:23.620>you <00:29:23.776>enjoy <00:29:23.931>this <00:29:24.087>kind <00:29:24.242>of <00:29:24.398>conversations, <00:29:24.553>please <00:29:24.709>don't <00:29:24.865>forget

681
00:29:26.145 --> 00:29:27.145
<00:29:26.145>to <00:29:26.370>hit <00:29:26.595>the <00:29:26.820>subscribe <00:29:27.045>button.

682
00:29:27.335 --> 00:29:29.945
<00:29:27.335>Then <00:29:27.510>you <00:29:27.685>get <00:29:27.860>all <00:29:28.035>this <00:29:28.210>kind <00:29:28.385>of <00:29:28.560>upfront <00:29:28.735>information,

683
00:29:30.055 --> 00:29:31.465
<00:29:30.055>your <00:29:30.689>upcoming <00:29:31.323>episodes

684
00:29:31.485 --> 00:29:34.905
<00:29:31.485>and <00:29:31.612>all <00:29:31.739>my <00:29:31.866>nice <00:29:31.994>guests <00:29:32.121>Cappuccino <00:29:32.248>with <00:29:32.375>HR <00:29:32.503>is <00:29:32.630>brought <00:29:32.757>to <00:29:32.885>you

685
00:29:34.905 --> 00:29:37.425
<00:29:34.905>by <00:29:35.105>we <00:29:35.305>are <00:29:35.504>developers, <00:29:35.705>Europe's <00:29:35.905>number <00:29:36.105>one <00:29:36.305>developer

686
00:29:37.425 --> 00:29:40.865
<00:29:37.425>community, <00:29:37.625>and <00:29:37.825>the <00:29:38.024>leading <00:29:38.225>platform <00:29:38.425>for <00:29:38.625>connecting <00:29:38.825>HR

687
00:29:41.125 --> 00:29:43.185
<00:29:41.125>and <00:29:41.475>companies <00:29:41.825>together <00:29:42.175>with <00:29:42.525>developers.

688
00:29:43.405 --> 00:29:46.025
<00:29:43.405>If <00:29:43.532>you <00:29:43.659>want <00:29:43.786>to <00:29:43.914>learn <00:29:44.041>more <00:29:44.168>with <00:29:44.295>it, <00:29:44.423>as <00:29:44.550>on <00:29:44.677>we <00:29:44.805>developers.com.

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