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<00:15:28.025>Uh, <00:15:28.141>um, <00:15:28.258>you <00:15:28.375>may <00:15:28.491>not <00:15:28.608>be <00:15:28.725>aware <00:15:28.841>of <00:15:28.958>this, <00:15:29.074>what <00:15:29.191>it <00:15:29.308>is, <00:15:29.425>basically,

374
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<00:15:31.435>when <00:15:31.609>you <00:15:31.785>have <00:15:31.959>a <00:15:32.135>hidden <00:15:32.310>field <00:15:32.484>that <00:15:32.660>says <00:15:32.834>email,

375
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<00:15:33.465>and <00:15:33.620>the <00:15:33.776>real <00:15:33.931>email <00:15:34.087>field <00:15:34.242>has <00:15:34.398>another <00:15:34.553>name, <00:15:34.709>then <00:15:34.865>basically,

376
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<00:15:36.905>if <00:15:37.032>it's <00:15:37.159>filled <00:15:37.286>in, <00:15:37.414>then <00:15:37.541>you <00:15:37.668>know, <00:15:37.795>a <00:15:37.923>bot <00:15:38.050>has <00:15:38.177>to <00:15:38.305>come

377
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<00:15:39.245>to <00:15:39.453>your <00:15:39.662>site <00:15:39.871>and <00:15:40.080>send <00:15:40.289>it.

378
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<00:15:40.865>The <00:15:41.231>other <00:15:41.597>problem <00:15:41.963>with

379
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<00:15:42.085>that <00:15:42.225>is <00:15:42.365>then <00:15:42.505>when <00:15:42.645>browsers <00:15:42.785>started <00:15:42.925>allowing <00:15:43.065>you <00:15:43.205>to <00:15:43.345>pre, <00:15:43.485>uh,

380
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<00:15:45.645>to <00:15:46.239>autofill <00:15:46.833>fields,

381
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<00:15:47.065>and <00:15:47.298>it <00:15:47.531>wasn't <00:15:47.765>called <00:15:47.998>email, <00:15:48.231>that <00:15:48.465>would,

382
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<00:15:48.845>the <00:15:49.205>autofill <00:15:49.564>wouldn't <00:15:49.925>work.

383
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<00:15:50.705>So <00:15:50.912>that <00:15:51.119>was <00:15:51.326>the, <00:15:51.533>that <00:15:51.740>was <00:15:51.947>how

384
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<00:15:52.085>that <00:15:52.365>actually <00:15:52.645>backfired <00:15:52.925>after <00:15:53.205>a <00:15:53.485>while.

385
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<00:15:53.845>But <00:15:54.000>this <00:15:54.156>is <00:15:54.311>still <00:15:54.467>a <00:15:54.622>thing <00:15:54.778>that <00:15:54.933>kind <00:15:55.089>of <00:15:55.245>works.

386
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<00:15:56.405>Instead <00:15:56.560>of <00:15:56.716>just <00:15:56.871>having, <00:15:57.027>uh, <00:15:57.182>having <00:15:57.338>to <00:15:57.493>put <00:15:57.649>a, <00:15:57.805>a,

387
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<00:15:59.285>a <00:15:59.440>capture <00:15:59.596>on <00:15:59.751>your <00:15:59.907>page, <00:16:00.062>put <00:16:00.218>a <00:16:00.373>honeypot <00:16:00.529>in <00:16:00.685>there

388
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<00:16:02.085>and <00:16:02.240>say <00:16:02.396>like, <00:16:02.551>okay, <00:16:02.707>that <00:16:02.862>obviously <00:16:03.018>was <00:16:03.173>not <00:16:03.329>a <00:16:03.485>human

389
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<00:16:04.385>who <00:16:04.703>filled <00:16:05.021>that <00:16:05.339>out.

390
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<00:16:05.865>But <00:16:06.098>it's <00:16:06.331>an <00:16:06.565>interesting <00:16:06.798>challenge, <00:16:07.031>isn't <00:16:07.265>it?

391
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<00:16:08.045>Like <00:16:08.185>you <00:16:08.324>want <00:16:08.464>to <00:16:08.604>make <00:16:08.745>it <00:16:08.885>accessible <00:16:09.025>at <00:16:09.165>the <00:16:09.305>same <00:16:09.444>time.

392
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<00:16:10.745>You <00:16:10.978>don't <00:16:11.211>wanna <00:16:11.445>make <00:16:11.678>it <00:16:11.911>too <00:16:12.145>accessible

393
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<00:16:12.525>for <00:16:12.944>bots <00:16:13.365>and <00:16:13.785>automation.

394
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<00:16:14.585>So, <00:16:14.785>Dan, <00:16:14.985>have <00:16:15.185>you <00:16:15.385>played <00:16:15.585>with <00:16:15.785>that <00:16:15.985>before

395
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<00:16:16.225>or <00:16:16.458>have <00:16:16.691>you <00:16:16.925>looked <00:16:17.158>at, <00:16:17.391>uh, <00:16:17.625>honeypots

396
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<00:16:18.105>and <00:16:18.334>heard <00:16:18.564>of <00:16:18.793>them <00:16:19.023>before?

397
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<00:16:19.795>Yeah, <00:16:19.922>I <00:16:20.049>mean, <00:16:20.176>I, <00:16:20.304>I've <00:16:20.431>only <00:16:20.558>really <00:16:20.685>ever <00:16:20.813>come <00:16:20.940>across <00:16:21.067>it <00:16:21.194>in

398
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<00:16:22.125>sort <00:16:22.325>of, <00:16:22.525>uh, <00:16:22.725>a <00:16:22.925>situation <00:16:23.125>where <00:16:23.325>my, <00:16:23.525>um,

399
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<00:16:24.715>I've <00:16:24.896>got <00:16:25.078>like <00:16:25.259>a <00:16:25.441>small <00:16:25.622>video <00:16:25.804>company

400
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<00:16:25.945>and <00:16:26.178>our, <00:16:26.411>our <00:16:26.645>form <00:16:26.878>was <00:16:27.111>getting <00:16:27.345>hammered

401
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<00:16:27.785>and <00:16:27.912>it, <00:16:28.039>it <00:16:28.166>was <00:16:28.294>essentially <00:16:28.421>where <00:16:28.548>we <00:16:28.675>went <00:16:28.803>down <00:16:28.930>the, <00:16:29.057>the <00:16:29.185>path

402
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<00:16:30.565>of <00:16:30.705>kind <00:16:30.845>of <00:16:30.985>honey <00:16:31.125>pots <00:16:31.265>then <00:16:31.405>to <00:16:31.545>kind <00:16:31.685>of <00:16:31.825>figure <00:16:31.965>out

403
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<00:16:32.485>where <00:16:32.693>this <00:16:32.902>was <00:16:33.111>coming <00:16:33.320>from <00:16:33.529>and

404
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<00:16:33.645>to <00:16:33.819>try <00:16:33.992>and <00:16:34.166>kind <00:16:34.341>of <00:16:34.515>mitigate <00:16:34.689>it.

405
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<00:16:34.825>But <00:16:34.980>it's <00:16:35.136>not <00:16:35.291>something <00:16:35.447>I've <00:16:35.602>really <00:16:35.758>kind <00:16:35.913>of, <00:16:36.069>you <00:16:36.225>know,

406
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<00:16:37.045>I <00:16:37.209>suppose <00:16:37.374>it's <00:16:37.538>the, <00:16:37.703>the <00:16:37.867>things <00:16:38.032>I'm <00:16:38.197>building.

407
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<00:16:38.325>They're <00:16:38.480>not <00:16:38.636>getting <00:16:38.791>traffic <00:16:38.947>where <00:16:39.102>it's <00:16:39.258>gonna <00:16:39.413>be <00:16:39.569>like, <00:16:39.725>uh,

408
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<00:16:40.725>a <00:16:40.865>major <00:16:41.005>issue, <00:16:41.145>but <00:16:41.285>it <00:16:41.425>just <00:16:41.565>feels <00:16:41.705>like <00:16:41.845>it's <00:16:41.985>this, <00:16:42.125>um,

409
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<00:16:44.195>it's <00:16:44.395>really <00:16:44.595>like <00:16:44.795>indicative <00:16:44.995>of <00:16:45.195>kind <00:16:45.395>of <00:16:45.595>the,

410
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<00:16:46.145>the, <00:16:46.463>the <00:16:46.781>problem, <00:16:47.099>right?

411
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<00:16:47.205>That <00:16:47.380>we've <00:16:47.555>got <00:16:47.730>where <00:16:47.905>we're, <00:16:48.080>we <00:16:48.255>love <00:16:48.430>this <00:16:48.605>technology,

412
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<00:16:50.105>but <00:16:50.318>now <00:16:50.531>it's <00:16:50.744>starting <00:16:50.957>to <00:16:51.170>eat <00:16:51.383>itself.

413
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<00:16:51.545>You <00:16:51.719>know, <00:16:51.895>where <00:16:52.069>we've <00:16:52.245>got, <00:16:52.420>we've <00:16:52.594>always <00:16:52.770>had <00:16:52.944>bots,

414
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<00:16:53.325>we've <00:16:53.500>always <00:16:53.675>had <00:16:53.850>ai, <00:16:54.025>or <00:16:54.200>more <00:16:54.375>recently <00:16:54.550>AI <00:16:54.725>kind

415
00:16:55.685 --> 00:16:57.845
<00:16:55.685>of <00:16:55.859>causing <00:16:56.035>problems, <00:16:56.209>but <00:16:56.385>it's <00:16:56.560>now <00:16:56.734>that, <00:16:56.910>you <00:16:57.084>know,

416
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<00:16:57.845>the <00:16:57.972>very <00:16:58.099>tools <00:16:58.226>that <00:16:58.354>we <00:16:58.481>love <00:16:58.608>and <00:16:58.735>we're <00:16:58.863>trying <00:16:58.990>to, <00:16:59.117>to <00:16:59.245>use

417
00:17:00.965 --> 00:17:03.525
<00:17:00.965>and <00:17:01.165>use <00:17:01.365>them <00:17:01.565>responsibly <00:17:01.765>are <00:17:01.965>the <00:17:02.165>same <00:17:02.365>tools

418
00:17:03.525 --> 00:17:05.285
<00:17:03.525>that <00:17:03.725>are <00:17:03.925>being <00:17:04.125>used <00:17:04.325>to <00:17:04.524>do <00:17:04.724>this <00:17:04.925>kind

419
00:17:05.285 --> 00:17:06.485
<00:17:05.285>of <00:17:05.501>stuff <00:17:05.717>at <00:17:05.933>scale, <00:17:06.148>you <00:17:06.365>know?

420
00:17:06.505 --> 00:17:07.525
<00:17:06.505>Mm-hmm. <00:17:06.964>Um, <00:17:07.423>to,

421
00:17:07.785 --> 00:17:09.245
<00:17:07.785>and <00:17:07.949>I <00:17:08.113>know <00:17:08.277>that's, <00:17:08.442>that's <00:17:08.606>kind <00:17:08.770>of <00:17:08.934>the <00:17:09.098>nature

422
00:17:09.245 --> 00:17:10.285
<00:17:09.244>of <00:17:09.557>like, <00:17:09.868>security, <00:17:10.181>right?

423
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<00:17:10.285>That <00:17:10.537>is <00:17:10.789>what <00:17:11.040>it <00:17:11.292>is.

424
00:17:11.505 --> 00:17:14.765
<00:17:11.505>But, <00:17:11.645>um, <00:17:11.785>it's <00:17:11.925>just <00:17:12.065>a <00:17:12.205>shame <00:17:12.345>that <00:17:12.485>with <00:17:12.625>the <00:17:12.765>web <00:17:12.905>being

425
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<00:17:14.765>so <00:17:14.998>advanced <00:17:15.231>that <00:17:15.465>we're <00:17:15.698>actually <00:17:15.931>still <00:17:16.165>having

426
00:17:16.685 --> 00:17:19.605
<00:17:16.685>to <00:17:16.859>put <00:17:17.034>in <00:17:17.210>these <00:17:17.385>really <00:17:17.560>hacky <00:17:17.734>approaches <00:17:17.909>of <00:17:18.085>just,

427
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<00:17:19.724>here's <00:17:19.880>a <00:17:20.036>slightly <00:17:20.191>different <00:17:20.347>way <00:17:20.502>of <00:17:20.658>honey <00:17:20.813>potting <00:17:20.969>a <00:17:21.125>bot,

428
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<00:17:21.765>because <00:17:21.940>it's <00:17:22.115>gotten <00:17:22.290>smarter <00:17:22.465>than <00:17:22.640>it <00:17:22.815>was <00:17:22.990>two <00:17:23.165>years

429
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<00:17:24.105>ago. <00:17:24.306>You <00:17:24.507>know? <00:17:24.708>It's <00:17:24.908>such <00:17:25.109>a <00:17:25.310>shame.

430
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<00:17:25.994>Yeah, <00:17:26.135>I <00:17:26.274>remember <00:17:26.415>that, <00:17:26.554>uh, <00:17:26.694>somebody <00:17:26.834>sent <00:17:26.974>the, <00:17:27.114>uh, <00:17:27.254>the <00:17:27.395>text

431
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<00:17:29.105>of <00:17:29.280>the, <00:17:29.455>uh, <00:17:29.630>of <00:17:29.805>the, <00:17:29.980>um, <00:17:30.155>declaration <00:17:30.330>of <00:17:30.505>Independence

432
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<00:17:32.045>of <00:17:32.268>America <00:17:32.491>to <00:17:32.714>an <00:17:32.937>AI <00:17:33.161>bot

433
00:17:33.285 --> 00:17:35.645
<00:17:33.285>and <00:17:33.440>asked <00:17:33.596>if <00:17:33.751>it's <00:17:33.907>actually <00:17:34.062>AI <00:17:34.218>generated <00:17:34.373>and <00:17:34.529>said <00:17:34.685>yes.

434
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<00:17:36.505>So <00:17:36.964>there <00:17:37.423>like

435
00:17:37.635 --> 00:17:41.085
<00:17:37.635>Lots <00:17:37.835>of, <00:17:38.035>Um, <00:17:38.235>central <00:17:38.435>looping <00:17:38.635>going <00:17:38.835>on <00:17:39.035>there.

436
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<00:17:41.145>And <00:17:41.300>it's, <00:17:41.456>uh, <00:17:41.611>I <00:17:41.767>think <00:17:41.922>it's <00:17:42.078>just <00:17:42.233>a <00:17:42.389>very <00:17:42.545>cool

437
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<00:17:43.355>that <00:17:43.635>these <00:17:43.915>little <00:17:44.195>things <00:17:44.475>still <00:17:44.755>work.

438
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<00:17:45.465>And <00:17:45.605>I <00:17:45.745>mean, <00:17:45.885>there's <00:17:46.024>also <00:17:46.165>these <00:17:46.304>tar <00:17:46.445>pits <00:17:46.584>for, <00:17:46.725>uh, <00:17:46.865>uh,

439
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<00:17:48.065>for <00:17:48.298>bots <00:17:48.531>to <00:17:48.765>actually <00:17:48.998>send <00:17:49.231>them <00:17:49.465>to,

440
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<00:17:50.065>or, <00:17:50.181>uh, <00:17:50.298>a, <00:17:50.415>a <00:17:50.531>more <00:17:50.648>brutal <00:17:50.765>way <00:17:50.881>was <00:17:50.998>sending <00:17:51.115>a <00:17:51.231>zip <00:17:51.348>bomb <00:17:51.465>back

441
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<00:17:54.165>to <00:17:54.292>any, <00:17:54.419>uh, <00:17:54.546>to <00:17:54.674>any <00:17:54.801>LLM <00:17:54.928>bot <00:17:55.055>that <00:17:55.183>comes <00:17:55.310>to <00:17:55.437>your <00:17:55.565>website.

442
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<00:17:57.765>I <00:17:57.920>saw <00:17:58.076>that <00:17:58.231>one <00:17:58.387>as <00:17:58.542>well. <00:17:58.698>So <00:17:58.853>there's <00:17:59.009>a <00:17:59.165>lot

443
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<00:17:59.725>of <00:17:59.920>interesting <00:18:00.115>stuff, <00:18:00.311>but <00:18:00.506>this <00:18:00.702>is <00:18:00.897>a, <00:18:01.092>a,

444
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<00:18:01.325>a <00:18:01.480>very <00:18:01.636>unobtrusive <00:18:01.791>way <00:18:01.947>to <00:18:02.102>actually, <00:18:02.258>uh, <00:18:02.413>secure <00:18:02.569>your <00:18:02.725>stuff.

445
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<00:18:06.505>Now, <00:18:06.738>engineering <00:18:06.971>managers <00:18:07.205>should <00:18:07.438>sometimes <00:18:07.671>write <00:18:07.905>code,

446
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<00:18:10.145>and <00:18:10.272>I <00:18:10.399>think <00:18:10.526>this <00:18:10.654>is <00:18:10.781>an <00:18:10.908>interesting <00:18:11.035>one <00:18:11.163>in <00:18:11.290>terms <00:18:11.417>of, <00:18:11.545>uh,

447
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<00:18:13.185>in <00:18:13.539>terms <00:18:13.893>of <00:18:14.247>career.

448
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<00:18:15.165>I <00:18:15.320>don't <00:18:15.476>know, <00:18:15.631>Raymond, <00:18:15.787>have <00:18:15.942>you <00:18:16.098>ever <00:18:16.253>been <00:18:16.409>into, <00:18:16.565>uh,

449
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<00:18:17.955>lead <00:18:18.655>development <00:18:19.355>management?

450
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<00:18:19.565>Have <00:18:19.740>you <00:18:19.915>ever <00:18:20.090>had <00:18:20.265>teams <00:18:20.440>to <00:18:20.615>manage <00:18:20.790>as <00:18:20.965>well?

451
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<00:18:21.665>Or <00:18:21.840>did <00:18:22.014>you <00:18:22.190>take <00:18:22.365>the <00:18:22.540>IC <00:18:22.715>route <00:18:22.889>for <00:18:23.065>life?

452
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<00:18:25.105>Yeah, <00:18:25.305>no, <00:18:25.505>I've, <00:18:25.705>I've <00:18:25.905>not <00:18:26.105>managed <00:18:26.305>anyone <00:18:26.505>yet.

453
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<00:18:28.015>Uh, <00:18:28.170>that <00:18:28.326>is <00:18:28.481>something <00:18:28.637>that <00:18:28.792>I <00:18:28.948>want <00:18:29.103>to <00:18:29.259>do <00:18:29.415>eventually.

454
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<00:18:31.185>Like <00:18:31.360>I <00:18:31.534>want <00:18:31.710>to <00:18:31.885>lead <00:18:32.060>a <00:18:32.235>dere <00:18:32.409>team, <00:18:32.585>uh,

455
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<00:18:34.135>but <00:18:34.342>it's <00:18:34.549>not <00:18:34.756>something <00:18:34.963>I've <00:18:35.170>done <00:18:35.377>yet.

456
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<00:18:36.675>Hmm. <00:18:37.017>And <00:18:37.359>do <00:18:37.701>you <00:18:38.043>think

457
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<00:18:38.195>that <00:18:38.395>engineering <00:18:38.595>managers <00:18:38.794>should <00:18:38.995>write, <00:18:39.195>still <00:18:39.395>write <00:18:39.595>code,

458
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<00:18:41.375>or <00:18:41.575>is <00:18:41.775>it <00:18:41.975>something <00:18:42.175>that <00:18:42.375>feels <00:18:42.575>like <00:18:42.775>forced?

459
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<00:18:46.635>I <00:18:46.790>think <00:18:46.946>you <00:18:47.101>need <00:18:47.257>to <00:18:47.412>at <00:18:47.568>least <00:18:47.723>understand <00:18:47.879>the, <00:18:48.035>the,

460
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<00:18:49.255>the <00:18:49.535>basics <00:18:49.815>of, <00:18:50.095>of <00:18:50.375>your <00:18:50.655>platform.

461
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<00:18:51.735>You <00:18:51.889>know, <00:18:52.043>I <00:18:52.197>don't <00:18:52.351>think <00:18:52.505>you <00:18:52.659>need <00:18:52.813>to <00:18:52.967>be <00:18:53.121>a,

462
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<00:18:53.275>like <00:18:53.508>a <00:18:53.741>PhD <00:18:53.975>level <00:18:54.208>coder <00:18:54.441>per <00:18:54.675>se,

463
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<00:18:55.295>but, <00:18:55.435>uh, <00:18:55.575>I, <00:18:55.715>I, <00:18:55.855>I <00:18:55.995>just, <00:18:56.135>I <00:18:56.275>can't <00:18:56.415>imagine <00:18:56.555>a <00:18:56.695>world

464
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<00:18:58.795>where <00:18:59.018>I <00:18:59.241>never <00:18:59.464>write <00:18:59.687>code <00:18:59.911>again.

465
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<00:19:00.065>Like <00:19:00.345>I <00:19:00.625>remember <00:19:00.905>my <00:19:01.185>first <00:19:01.465>program.

466
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<00:19:02.255>I'm <00:19:02.410>have <00:19:02.566>enjoyed <00:19:02.721>it <00:19:02.877>every <00:19:03.032>day <00:19:03.188>since <00:19:03.343>then, <00:19:03.499>so <00:19:03.655>I,

467
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<00:19:06.355>I <00:19:06.588>never <00:19:06.821>wanna <00:19:07.055>stop <00:19:07.288>doing <00:19:07.521>that <00:19:07.755>personally.

468
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<00:19:09.215>Yeah, <00:19:09.389>it, <00:19:09.564>it's, <00:19:09.740>it's <00:19:09.915>a <00:19:10.090>gig <00:19:10.264>thing, <00:19:10.439>isn't <00:19:10.615>it?

469
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<00:19:11.705>I <00:19:11.845>mean, <00:19:11.985>I <00:19:12.125>remember <00:19:12.264>when <00:19:12.405>my <00:19:12.544>ex-girlfriend <00:19:12.685>was <00:19:12.824>doing <00:19:12.965>some, <00:19:13.105>we,

470
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<00:19:14.705>we <00:19:14.905>tried <00:19:15.105>to <00:19:15.304>organize <00:19:15.504>something <00:19:15.705>in <00:19:15.905>the <00:19:16.105>house,

471
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<00:19:16.265>and <00:19:16.405>I <00:19:16.545>went <00:19:16.685>to <00:19:16.825>the <00:19:16.965>console <00:19:17.105>and <00:19:17.245>start <00:19:17.385>writing <00:19:17.525>a <00:19:17.665>script,

472
00:19:18.345 --> 00:19:20.225
<00:19:18.345>and <00:19:18.500>she's <00:19:18.656>like, <00:19:18.811>I'm <00:19:18.967>using <00:19:19.122>an <00:19:19.278>Excel <00:19:19.433>sheet <00:19:19.589>for <00:19:19.745>that.

473
00:19:20.495 --> 00:19:24.585
<00:19:20.495>What <00:19:20.635>are <00:19:20.774>you <00:19:20.915>doing? <00:19:21.054>Like, <00:19:21.195>but <00:19:21.334>I'm <00:19:21.475>gonna <00:19:21.614>out <00:19:21.754>Dan <00:19:21.895>now.

474
00:19:24.665 --> 00:19:26.945
<00:19:24.665>I <00:19:24.820>mean, <00:19:24.976>Dan <00:19:25.131>looks <00:19:25.287>like <00:19:25.442>rock <00:19:25.598>and <00:19:25.753>roll, <00:19:25.909>like <00:19:26.065>tattoos

475
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<00:19:26.945>and <00:19:27.100>everything, <00:19:27.256>and <00:19:27.411>like, <00:19:27.567>uh, <00:19:27.722>and <00:19:27.878>like <00:19:28.033>guitars <00:19:28.189>and <00:19:28.345>s**t,

476
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<00:19:29.645>but <00:19:29.925>he's <00:19:30.205>like <00:19:30.485>the <00:19:30.764>Excel <00:19:31.045>master.

477
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<00:19:31.485>He <00:19:31.659>really, <00:19:31.834>really <00:19:32.010>gets <00:19:32.185>excited <00:19:32.360>about <00:19:32.534>coloring <00:19:32.709>them <00:19:32.885>in

478
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<00:19:34.145>and <00:19:34.611>using <00:19:35.078>them <00:19:35.545>properly.

479
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<00:19:36.815>It's, <00:19:36.990>to <00:19:37.165>me, <00:19:37.340>it's, <00:19:37.515>there's <00:19:37.690>no <00:19:37.865>difference <00:19:38.040>really <00:19:38.215>between,

480
00:19:39.505 --> 00:19:41.225
<00:19:39.505>I <00:19:39.738>mean, <00:19:39.971>it's <00:19:40.205>just, <00:19:40.438>it's <00:19:40.671>syntax, <00:19:40.905>right?

481
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<00:19:41.225>That <00:19:41.458>I, <00:19:41.691>I <00:19:41.925>think <00:19:42.158>I <00:19:42.391>told <00:19:42.625>you

482
00:19:42.905 --> 00:19:44.945
<00:19:42.905>before <00:19:43.080>Chris, <00:19:43.254>I <00:19:43.430>actually <00:19:43.605>started <00:19:43.780>if <00:19:43.955>you'd <00:19:44.129>like, <00:19:44.305>um,

483
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<00:19:45.125>or <00:19:45.280>kind <00:19:45.436>of <00:19:45.591>got <00:19:45.747>the <00:19:45.902>bug <00:19:46.058>for <00:19:46.213>programming <00:19:46.369>with <00:19:46.525>Excel,

484
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<00:19:48.105>because <00:19:48.305>I <00:19:48.505>thought, <00:19:48.705>well, <00:19:48.905>I <00:19:49.105>was <00:19:49.305>a <00:19:49.505>teacher,

485
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<00:19:50.065>I <00:19:50.415>was <00:19:50.765>automating <00:19:51.115>writing <00:19:51.465>reports,

486
00:19:51.805 --> 00:19:53.305
<00:19:51.805>and <00:19:51.973>I <00:19:52.142>thought, <00:19:52.311>I <00:19:52.480>wonder <00:19:52.648>if <00:19:52.817>I <00:19:52.986>could <00:19:53.155>kind

487
00:19:53.305 --> 00:19:54.465
<00:19:53.305>of <00:19:53.479>put <00:19:53.653>a <00:19:53.827>nice <00:19:54.001>UI <00:19:54.175>on <00:19:54.349>this.

488
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<00:19:54.525>And <00:19:54.700>I <00:19:54.875>was <00:19:55.050>already <00:19:55.225>building <00:19:55.400>very <00:19:55.575>much <00:19:55.750>front <00:19:55.925>end,

489
00:19:56.655 --> 00:19:58.025
<00:19:56.655>just <00:19:56.963>sort <00:19:57.271>of <00:19:57.579>UI <00:19:57.888>designs.

490
00:19:58.165 --> 00:20:02.185
<00:19:58.165>Um, <00:19:58.292>and <00:19:58.419>yeah, <00:19:58.546>it, <00:19:58.674>it <00:19:58.801>really <00:19:58.928>kind <00:19:59.055>of, <00:19:59.183>uh, <00:19:59.310>it <00:19:59.437>led <00:19:59.565>me,

491
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<00:20:02.205>it <00:20:02.403>led <00:20:02.601>me <00:20:02.799>down <00:20:02.996>that <00:20:03.195>path <00:20:03.392>of <00:20:03.591>seeing

492
00:20:03.805 --> 00:20:06.185
<00:20:03.805>how <00:20:03.980>something <00:20:04.155>can <00:20:04.330>have <00:20:04.505>just <00:20:04.680>some <00:20:04.855>really <00:20:05.030>simple <00:20:05.205>logic

493
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<00:20:06.285>to <00:20:06.425>do <00:20:06.565>something <00:20:06.705>really <00:20:06.845>powerful <00:20:06.985>that <00:20:07.125>saves <00:20:07.265>a <00:20:07.405>lot <00:20:07.545>of <00:20:07.685>time,

494
00:20:09.005 --> 00:20:10.265
<00:20:09.005>and <00:20:09.194>then <00:20:09.383>giving <00:20:09.572>it <00:20:09.761>to <00:20:09.950>somebody <00:20:10.139>else

495
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<00:20:10.645>and <00:20:10.845>seeing <00:20:11.045>them <00:20:11.245>have <00:20:11.445>that <00:20:11.645>time <00:20:11.845>saving <00:20:12.045>experience.

496
00:20:13.585 --> 00:20:15.985
<00:20:13.585>You <00:20:13.712>know? <00:20:13.839>Um, <00:20:13.966>I <00:20:14.094>think <00:20:14.221>going <00:20:14.348>back <00:20:14.475>to <00:20:14.603>what <00:20:14.730>you <00:20:14.857>are <00:20:14.985>saying,

497
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<00:20:15.985>Raymond, <00:20:16.185>I <00:20:16.385>cannot <00:20:16.584>imagine <00:20:16.784>not <00:20:16.985>getting <00:20:17.185>that <00:20:17.385>bug

498
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<00:20:19.285>or <00:20:19.412>even <00:20:19.539>wanting <00:20:19.666>that, <00:20:19.794>that <00:20:19.921>that <00:20:20.048>kind <00:20:20.175>of <00:20:20.303>feeling <00:20:20.430>of <00:20:20.557>like, <00:20:20.685>oh,

499
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<00:20:22.845>it <00:20:23.175>clicks <00:20:23.504>something <00:20:23.835>works

500
00:20:24.085 --> 00:20:25.985
<00:20:24.085>or <00:20:24.285>it <00:20:24.485>slightly <00:20:24.685>works <00:20:24.885>even <00:20:25.085>a <00:20:25.285>little <00:20:25.485>bit.

501
00:20:26.505 --> 00:20:29.585
<00:20:26.505>I <00:20:26.632>can't <00:20:26.759>imagine. <00:20:26.886>And <00:20:27.014>I <00:20:27.141>mean, <00:20:27.268>just <00:20:27.395>to <00:20:27.523>finish <00:20:27.650>up <00:20:27.777>that <00:20:27.905>point

502
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<00:20:30.205>for <00:20:30.360>coming <00:20:30.516>in <00:20:30.671>education, <00:20:30.827>um, <00:20:30.982>when <00:20:31.138>I <00:20:31.293>was <00:20:31.449>in <00:20:31.605>education,

503
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<00:20:33.645>we <00:20:33.772>had <00:20:33.899>a <00:20:34.026>manager <00:20:34.154>once <00:20:34.281>say <00:20:34.408>to <00:20:34.535>a <00:20:34.663>group <00:20:34.790>of <00:20:34.917>teachers, <00:20:35.045>uh,

504
00:20:36.925 --> 00:20:39.305
<00:20:36.925>you <00:20:37.125>have <00:20:37.325>all <00:20:37.524>lost <00:20:37.725>the <00:20:37.925>craft <00:20:38.125>of <00:20:38.325>teaching.

505
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<00:20:39.525>Now <00:20:39.652>the <00:20:39.779>same <00:20:39.906>per, <00:20:40.034>that <00:20:40.161>was <00:20:40.288>a <00:20:40.415>quote, <00:20:40.543>the <00:20:40.670>same <00:20:40.797>person, <00:20:40.925>um,

506
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<00:20:43.405>was <00:20:43.685>kind <00:20:43.965>of <00:20:44.245>reviewed <00:20:44.524>quite <00:20:44.805>badly

507
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<00:20:46.525>by <00:20:46.805>students <00:20:47.085>when <00:20:47.365>they <00:20:47.645>were <00:20:47.925>teaching

508
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<00:20:48.085>and <00:20:48.285>they <00:20:48.485>hadn't <00:20:48.685>taught <00:20:48.885>for <00:20:49.085>around <00:20:49.285>10 <00:20:49.485>years.

509
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<00:20:50.105>Um, <00:20:50.221>I <00:20:50.338>actually <00:20:50.455>felt <00:20:50.571>like <00:20:50.688>this <00:20:50.805>hits <00:20:50.921>on <00:20:51.038>this <00:20:51.155>same <00:20:51.271>point <00:20:51.388>of <00:20:51.505>if

510
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<00:20:54.165>that <00:20:54.340>person <00:20:54.514>had <00:20:54.690>done <00:20:54.865>two <00:20:55.040>hours <00:20:55.215>teaching <00:20:55.389>a <00:20:55.565>week,

511
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<00:20:56.505>we <00:20:56.785>would've <00:20:57.065>respected <00:20:57.345>him <00:20:57.625>saying <00:20:57.905>that

512
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<00:20:58.125>because <00:20:58.475>you <00:20:58.825>would've <00:20:59.175>said, <00:20:59.525>well,

513
00:20:59.825 --> 00:21:01.685
<00:20:59.825>at <00:21:00.025>least <00:21:00.225>you <00:21:00.425>still <00:21:00.625>understand <00:21:00.825>what <00:21:01.025>you <00:21:01.225>mean.

514
00:21:01.685 --> 00:21:04.245
<00:21:01.685>Whereas <00:21:01.885>somebody <00:21:02.085>who <00:21:02.284>says, <00:21:02.485>I <00:21:02.685>never <00:21:02.885>write <00:21:03.085>code,

515
00:21:04.345 --> 00:21:06.685
<00:21:04.345>it <00:21:04.472>would <00:21:04.599>be <00:21:04.726>like <00:21:04.854>looking <00:21:04.981>at <00:21:05.108>your <00:21:05.235>code <00:21:05.363>saying, <00:21:05.490>this <00:21:05.617>is <00:21:05.745>awful,

516
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<00:21:07.185>and <00:21:07.319>you <00:21:07.453>would <00:21:07.587>have <00:21:07.721>a <00:21:07.855>little <00:21:07.989>thing <00:21:08.123>in <00:21:08.257>the <00:21:08.391>back

517
00:21:08.525 --> 00:21:10.045
<00:21:08.525>of <00:21:08.720>your <00:21:08.915>head <00:21:09.111>going, <00:21:09.306>what <00:21:09.502>do <00:21:09.697>you <00:21:09.893>know?

518
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<00:21:10.885>Do <00:21:11.085>you <00:21:11.285>know? <00:21:11.485>I <00:21:11.685>feel <00:21:11.885>like <00:21:12.085>it's, <00:21:12.285>that,

519
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<00:21:14.685>That's <00:21:14.968>also <00:21:15.252>an <00:21:15.535>interesting <00:21:15.819>one,

520
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<00:21:15.965>one <00:21:16.120>in <00:21:16.276>five <00:21:16.431>security <00:21:16.587>breaches <00:21:16.742>now <00:21:16.898>thought <00:21:17.053>to <00:21:17.209>be <00:21:17.365>caused

521
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<00:21:18.485>by <00:21:18.827>I <00:21:19.168>written <00:21:19.511>code.

522
00:21:19.725 --> 00:21:22.985
<00:21:19.725>That's <00:21:19.880>a <00:21:20.036>very <00:21:20.191>squarely <00:21:20.347>way <00:21:20.502>of <00:21:20.658>writing <00:21:20.813>and <00:21:20.969>headline, <00:21:21.125>though.

523
00:21:23.135 --> 00:21:26.425
<00:21:23.135>Like, <00:21:23.310>it <00:21:23.485>feels <00:21:23.660>like, <00:21:23.835>oh, <00:21:24.010>we <00:21:24.185>make <00:21:24.360>an <00:21:24.535>accusation,

524
00:21:26.445 --> 00:21:28.225
<00:21:26.445>but <00:21:26.678>we <00:21:26.911>can't <00:21:27.145>quite <00:21:27.378>back <00:21:27.611>it <00:21:27.845>up.

525
00:21:28.245 --> 00:21:29.665
<00:21:28.245>So <00:21:28.457>we're <00:21:28.670>not <00:21:28.884>quite <00:21:29.097>sure <00:21:29.310>about <00:21:29.523>it.

526
00:21:29.725 --> 00:21:33.265
<00:21:29.725>But <00:21:29.852>yeah, <00:21:29.979>I <00:21:30.106>think <00:21:30.234>there <00:21:30.361>is <00:21:30.488>a <00:21:30.615>lot <00:21:30.743>of <00:21:30.870>like, <00:21:30.997>let's <00:21:31.125>say,

527
00:21:33.265 --> 00:21:37.505
<00:21:33.265>fair <00:21:33.420>in <00:21:33.576>AI <00:21:33.731>generated <00:21:33.887>code <00:21:34.042>that <00:21:34.198>basically <00:21:34.353>is <00:21:34.509>the <00:21:34.665>idea.

528
00:21:38.165 --> 00:21:40.145
<00:21:38.165>And <00:21:38.398>that <00:21:38.631>always <00:21:38.865>ails <00:21:39.098>me <00:21:39.331>when, <00:21:39.565>uh,

529
00:21:40.145 --> 00:21:41.985
<00:21:40.145>when <00:21:40.378>people <00:21:40.611>talk <00:21:40.845>about <00:21:41.078>like, <00:21:41.311>oh, <00:21:41.545>I'm,

530
00:21:41.985 --> 00:21:43.905
<00:21:41.985>I'm <00:21:42.159>doing <00:21:42.334>vibe <00:21:42.510>coding <00:21:42.685>and <00:21:42.860>these <00:21:43.034>kind <00:21:43.209>of <00:21:43.385>things.

531
00:21:43.915 --> 00:21:46.505
<00:21:43.915>Don't <00:21:44.055>worry <00:21:44.195>about <00:21:44.335>the <00:21:44.475>code <00:21:44.615>can <00:21:44.754>be <00:21:44.895>replaced <00:21:45.034>the <00:21:45.175>next <00:21:45.315>minute

532
00:21:46.515 --> 00:21:50.825
<00:21:46.515>again, <00:21:46.690>but <00:21:46.865>it <00:21:47.040>only <00:21:47.215>needs <00:21:47.390>one <00:21:47.565>backdoor <00:21:47.740>in <00:21:47.915>there,

533
00:21:50.925 --> 00:21:53.385
<00:21:50.925>one <00:21:51.100>malware <00:21:51.274>bit <00:21:51.450>to <00:21:51.625>get <00:21:51.800>through <00:21:51.975>and <00:21:52.149>you're <00:21:52.325>screwed.

534
00:21:53.565 --> 00:21:55.785
<00:21:53.565>And, <00:21:53.740>uh, <00:21:53.915>I, <00:21:54.090>I <00:21:54.265>think <00:21:54.440>that's <00:21:54.615>an <00:21:54.790>interesting <00:21:54.965>one,

535
00:21:55.785 --> 00:21:57.465
<00:21:55.785>but <00:21:56.018>yeah, <00:21:56.251>I'm <00:21:56.485>not <00:21:56.718>surprised <00:21:56.951>that <00:21:57.185>actually,

536
00:21:57.805 --> 00:21:59.745
<00:21:57.805>but <00:21:57.960>I <00:21:58.116>don't <00:21:58.271>think <00:21:58.427>it's <00:21:58.582>actually <00:21:58.738>the <00:21:58.893>I <00:21:59.049>written <00:21:59.205>code.

537
00:21:59.745 --> 00:22:03.465
<00:21:59.745>It's <00:21:59.885>just <00:22:00.024>the, <00:22:00.165>the, <00:22:00.304>the <00:22:00.445>way <00:22:00.584>we <00:22:00.725>actually <00:22:00.864>release <00:22:01.004>things <00:22:01.145>just

538
00:22:03.465 --> 00:22:05.385
<00:22:03.465>because <00:22:03.698>we <00:22:03.931>need <00:22:04.165>to <00:22:04.398>release <00:22:04.631>them <00:22:04.865>quickly

539
00:22:05.965 --> 00:22:08.465
<00:22:05.965>rather <00:22:06.198>than <00:22:06.431>doing <00:22:06.665>like <00:22:06.898>the <00:22:07.131>due <00:22:07.365>diligence

540
00:22:08.525 --> 00:22:09.785
<00:22:08.525>and <00:22:08.903>testing <00:22:09.281>them <00:22:09.659>properly

541
00:22:09.845 --> 00:22:12.145
<00:22:09.845>and <00:22:10.045>doing <00:22:10.245>like <00:22:10.445>pen <00:22:10.645>testing <00:22:10.845>on <00:22:11.045>the <00:22:11.245>things

542
00:22:12.145 --> 00:22:13.225
<00:22:12.145>before <00:22:12.388>we <00:22:12.630>roll <00:22:12.874>them <00:22:13.117>out.

543
00:22:14.125 --> 00:22:16.225
<00:22:14.125>But <00:22:14.280>at <00:22:14.436>the <00:22:14.591>same <00:22:14.747>time, <00:22:14.902>there's <00:22:15.058>lots <00:22:15.213>of <00:22:15.369>like, <00:22:15.525>MCPS

544
00:22:16.225 --> 00:22:17.665
<00:22:16.225>for <00:22:16.440>security <00:22:16.657>and <00:22:16.873>these <00:22:17.089>kind <00:22:17.304>of <00:22:17.521>things.

545
00:22:17.725 --> 00:22:20.145
<00:22:17.725>So <00:22:17.880>it, <00:22:18.036>it <00:22:18.191>will <00:22:18.347>be <00:22:18.502>interesting <00:22:18.658>to <00:22:18.813>see, <00:22:18.969>well, <00:22:19.125>how

546
00:22:20.145 --> 00:22:21.625
<00:22:20.145>that <00:22:20.411>arm's <00:22:20.677>race <00:22:20.944>is <00:22:21.210>working <00:22:21.477>out.

547
00:22:23.315 --> 00:22:26.375
<00:22:23.315>And <00:22:23.490>talking <00:22:23.665>about <00:22:23.840>the <00:22:24.015>dn <00:22:24.190>uh, <00:22:24.365>uh, <00:22:24.540>races, <00:22:24.715>uh,

548
00:22:26.895 --> 00:22:29.535
<00:22:26.895>a <00:22:27.095>DNS <00:22:27.295>race <00:22:27.495>condition <00:22:27.695>was <00:22:27.895>actually <00:22:28.095>the <00:22:28.295>reason

549
00:22:29.595 --> 00:22:31.575
<00:22:29.595>for <00:22:30.061>Amazon's <00:22:30.528>cloud <00:22:30.995>outage.

550
00:22:32.855 --> 00:22:34.395
<00:22:32.855>Did <00:22:33.053>that <00:22:33.251>affect <00:22:33.449>you <00:22:33.647>in <00:22:33.845>any <00:22:34.043>way, <00:22:34.241>Raymond?

551
00:22:34.395 --> 00:22:36.275
<00:22:34.395>Because <00:22:34.628>I <00:22:34.861>was <00:22:35.095>offline, <00:22:35.328>I <00:22:35.561>didn't <00:22:35.795>care.

552
00:22:37.395 --> 00:22:40.035
<00:22:37.395>I <00:22:37.535>think <00:22:37.675>when <00:22:37.815>I <00:22:37.955>woke <00:22:38.095>up, <00:22:38.235>it <00:22:38.375>had <00:22:38.514>already <00:22:38.655>been <00:22:38.795>happening

553
00:22:40.095 --> 00:22:42.475
<00:22:40.095>and <00:22:40.295>it <00:22:40.495>wrapped <00:22:40.695>up <00:22:40.895>a <00:22:41.095>couple <00:22:41.295>hours <00:22:41.495>later.

554
00:22:42.935 --> 00:22:46.355
<00:22:42.935>Uh, <00:22:43.062>it <00:22:43.189>didn't <00:22:43.316>really <00:22:43.444>impact <00:22:43.571>me. <00:22:43.698>I <00:22:43.825>was <00:22:43.953>still <00:22:44.080>able <00:22:44.207>to <00:22:44.335>work.

555
00:22:46.955 --> 00:22:49.675
<00:22:46.955>I <00:22:47.095>think <00:22:47.235>my, <00:22:47.375>my <00:22:47.514>blog <00:22:47.655>went <00:22:47.794>down <00:22:47.935>for <00:22:48.074>a <00:22:48.215>little <00:22:48.355>while,

556
00:22:49.775 --> 00:22:51.795
<00:22:49.775>but <00:22:49.950>people <00:22:50.125>smarter <00:22:50.300>than <00:22:50.475>me <00:22:50.650>got <00:22:50.825>it <00:22:51.000>back <00:22:51.175>up,

557
00:22:51.975 --> 00:22:53.755
<00:22:51.975>so <00:22:52.175>I <00:22:52.375>didn't <00:22:52.574>give <00:22:52.774>a <00:22:52.975>dang <00:22:53.175>about <00:22:53.375>it.

558
00:22:55.775 --> 00:22:59.235
<00:22:55.775>How <00:22:55.902>about <00:22:56.029>you, <00:22:56.156>Dan? <00:22:56.284>Do <00:22:56.411>you <00:22:56.538>use <00:22:56.665>AWS <00:22:56.793>for <00:22:56.920>anything <00:22:57.047>vital <00:22:57.175>is,

559
00:22:59.235 --> 00:23:01.555
<00:22:59.235>uh, <00:22:59.435>did, <00:22:59.635>did <00:22:59.834>your <00:23:00.034>door <00:23:00.235>not <00:23:00.435>open <00:23:00.635>anymore

560
00:23:01.555 --> 00:23:03.155
<00:23:01.555>because <00:23:01.788>Alexa <00:23:02.021>didn't <00:23:02.255>let <00:23:02.488>you <00:23:02.721>in <00:23:02.955>or

561
00:23:03.775 --> 00:23:05.755
<00:23:03.775>No, <00:23:03.930>luckily, <00:23:04.086>and <00:23:04.241>in <00:23:04.397>fact, <00:23:04.552>we <00:23:04.708>did <00:23:04.863>have <00:23:05.019>that <00:23:05.175>conversation,

562
00:23:05.775 --> 00:23:08.235
<00:23:05.775>you <00:23:05.915>know, <00:23:06.055>saying, <00:23:06.195>yeah, <00:23:06.335>isn't <00:23:06.475>this <00:23:06.615>kind <00:23:06.755>of <00:23:06.895>the, <00:23:07.035>the <00:23:07.175>downside

563
00:23:08.235 --> 00:23:09.315
<00:23:08.235>to <00:23:08.559>making <00:23:08.883>everything <00:23:09.207>smart?

564
00:23:09.495 --> 00:23:11.555
<00:23:09.495>Um, <00:23:09.669>I <00:23:09.844>mean, <00:23:10.020>I <00:23:10.195>did <00:23:10.370>have, <00:23:10.544>uh, <00:23:10.719>it's <00:23:10.895>kind

565
00:23:11.555 --> 00:23:12.795
<00:23:11.555>of <00:23:11.778>maybe <00:23:12.001>a <00:23:12.224>UK <00:23:12.447>specific <00:23:12.671>one,

566
00:23:12.795 --> 00:23:13.875
<00:23:12.795>but <00:23:12.916>I <00:23:13.038>thought <00:23:13.159>it <00:23:13.281>was <00:23:13.402>quite <00:23:13.524>funny <00:23:13.645>on <00:23:13.767>this.

567
00:23:14.115 --> 00:23:16.715
<00:23:14.115>I <00:23:14.270>had <00:23:14.426>a <00:23:14.581>friend <00:23:14.737>text <00:23:14.892>me <00:23:15.048>and <00:23:15.203>say, <00:23:15.359>um, <00:23:15.515>uh,

568
00:23:17.215 --> 00:23:18.355
<00:23:17.215>uh, <00:23:17.471>is <00:23:17.728>this <00:23:17.984>website <00:23:18.241>down?

569
00:23:18.355 --> 00:23:20.035
<00:23:18.355>Is <00:23:18.530>this <00:23:18.705>website <00:23:18.880>down? <00:23:19.055>And <00:23:19.230>I <00:23:19.405>sent <00:23:19.580>them <00:23:19.755>the,

570
00:23:20.095 --> 00:23:21.155
<00:23:20.095>is <00:23:20.333>it <00:23:20.572>down <00:23:20.810>for <00:23:21.049>me?

571
00:23:21.155 --> 00:23:23.075
<00:23:21.155>Or <00:23:21.295>whatever <00:23:21.435>it <00:23:21.575>is, <00:23:21.715>so <00:23:21.855>you <00:23:21.995>can <00:23:22.135>check <00:23:22.274>here, <00:23:22.415>you <00:23:22.555>know,

572
00:23:23.175 --> 00:23:24.675
<00:23:23.175>and <00:23:23.343>then <00:23:23.512>they <00:23:23.681>said <00:23:23.850>to <00:23:24.018>me <00:23:24.187>something <00:23:24.356>like, <00:23:24.524>um,

573
00:23:24.785 --> 00:23:25.995
<00:23:24.785>that <00:23:25.002>they <00:23:25.220>thought <00:23:25.438>for <00:23:25.656>a <00:23:25.873>while

574
00:23:25.995 --> 00:23:29.075
<00:23:25.995>that <00:23:26.122>this <00:23:26.249>was <00:23:26.376>the <00:23:26.504>next <00:23:26.631>step <00:23:26.758>in <00:23:26.885>the <00:23:27.013>kind <00:23:27.140>of <00:23:27.267>UK <00:23:27.395>control

575
00:23:29.095 --> 00:23:30.355
<00:23:29.095>of <00:23:29.473>the <00:23:29.851>internet, <00:23:30.229>um,

576
00:23:30.415 --> 00:23:32.635
<00:23:30.415>and <00:23:30.615>that <00:23:30.815>they'd <00:23:31.014>done <00:23:31.215>the <00:23:31.415>online <00:23:31.615>digital <00:23:31.815>id.

577
00:23:32.635 --> 00:23:34.875
<00:23:32.635>And <00:23:32.790>that <00:23:32.946>this <00:23:33.101>now <00:23:33.257>means <00:23:33.412>you <00:23:33.568>have <00:23:33.723>to <00:23:33.879>register <00:23:34.035>your,

578
00:23:34.975 --> 00:23:37.115
<00:23:34.975>verify <00:23:35.208>your <00:23:35.441>age <00:23:35.675>to <00:23:35.908>use <00:23:36.141>certain <00:23:36.375>websites.

579
00:23:37.335 --> 00:23:39.555
<00:23:37.335>And <00:23:37.535>my <00:23:37.735>friend <00:23:37.935>went <00:23:38.135>straight <00:23:38.335>to <00:23:38.535>the <00:23:38.735>conspiratorial.

580
00:23:40.075 --> 00:23:42.515
<00:23:40.075>I <00:23:40.250>think <00:23:40.425>they've <00:23:40.600>put <00:23:40.775>another <00:23:40.950>layer <00:23:41.125>of, <00:23:41.300>of <00:23:41.475>access

581
00:23:42.655 --> 00:23:45.035
<00:23:42.655>and <00:23:42.795>that <00:23:42.935>he <00:23:43.075>thought <00:23:43.215>he <00:23:43.355>was <00:23:43.495>being <00:23:43.635>blocked <00:23:43.774>from <00:23:43.915>certain <00:23:44.055>sites.

582
00:23:45.210 --> 00:23:47.525
<00:23:45.210>So <00:23:45.326>it <00:23:45.443>was <00:23:45.560>nice <00:23:45.676>actually <00:23:45.793>to <00:23:45.910>be <00:23:46.026>able <00:23:46.143>to <00:23:46.260>send <00:23:46.376>him <00:23:46.493>a <00:23:46.610>headline

583
00:23:47.525 --> 00:23:50.325
<00:23:47.525>and <00:23:47.641>say, <00:23:47.758>it's <00:23:47.875>just <00:23:47.991>AWS <00:23:48.108>and <00:23:48.225>he <00:23:48.341>had <00:23:48.458>no <00:23:48.575>idea <00:23:48.691>what <00:23:48.808>it <00:23:48.925>is,

584
00:23:50.345 --> 00:23:52.245
<00:23:50.345>but <00:23:50.625>it's <00:23:50.905>like <00:23:51.185>scary <00:23:51.465>that <00:23:51.745>most

585
00:23:52.245 --> 00:23:54.285
<00:23:52.245>of <00:23:52.445>the <00:23:52.645>web <00:23:52.844>runs <00:23:53.044>on <00:23:53.245>it, <00:23:53.445>right? <00:23:53.645>It's,

586
00:23:54.355 --> 00:23:55.355
<00:23:54.355>It's <00:23:54.580>correct. <00:23:54.805>Well, <00:23:55.030>not <00:23:55.255>only

587
00:23:55.355 --> 00:23:57.365
<00:23:55.355>the <00:23:55.530>web, <00:23:55.705>this <00:23:55.880>was <00:23:56.055>the <00:23:56.230>really <00:23:56.405>cool <00:23:56.580>thing <00:23:56.755>here

588
00:23:57.365 --> 00:23:59.165
<00:23:57.365>that <00:23:57.645>actually, <00:23:57.925>uh, <00:23:58.205>somebody <00:23:58.485>found <00:23:58.765>out

589
00:23:59.165 --> 00:24:01.125
<00:23:59.165>that <00:23:59.445>his <00:23:59.725>bet <00:24:00.004>wouldn't <00:24:00.284>work <00:24:00.565>anymore

590
00:24:01.125 --> 00:24:02.845
<00:24:01.125>because <00:24:01.405>it <00:24:01.685>was <00:24:01.965>relying <00:24:02.245>on <00:24:02.525>a

591
00:24:03.005 --> 00:24:07.605
<00:24:03.005>WSI <00:24:03.471>mean, <00:24:03.938>this <00:24:04.405>is

592
00:24:07.755 --> 00:24:11.685
<00:24:07.755>what <00:24:07.988>also <00:24:08.221>what's <00:24:08.455>with <00:24:08.688>the <00:24:08.921>font <00:24:09.155>size.

593
00:24:11.685 --> 00:24:15.725
<00:24:11.685>Holy <00:24:11.801>cow. <00:24:11.918>Uh, <00:24:12.034>so <00:24:12.151>yeah, <00:24:12.268>as <00:24:12.385>a <00:24:12.501>result <00:24:12.618>of <00:24:12.735>the <00:24:12.851>a <00:24:12.968>WA <00:24:13.085>number

594
00:24:15.725 --> 00:24:17.565
<00:24:15.725>of <00:24:15.925>commercial <00:24:16.125>products, <00:24:16.324>stop <00:24:16.524>working <00:24:16.725>in <00:24:16.925>the <00:24:17.125>eight

595
00:24:17.565 --> 00:24:18.805
<00:24:17.565>sleep <00:24:18.123>PO <00:24:18.681>beds.

596
00:24:19.515 --> 00:24:23.115
<00:24:19.515>Yeah. <00:24:19.865>So, <00:24:20.215>uh, <00:24:20.565>make <00:24:20.915>warmer,

597
00:24:23.225 --> 00:24:24.675
<00:24:23.225>make <00:24:23.659>cooler, <00:24:24.095>raise <00:24:24.530>lower.

598
00:24:25.425 --> 00:24:29.635
<00:24:25.425>That <00:24:25.580>didn't <00:24:25.736>work <00:24:25.891>out <00:24:26.047>anymore. <00:24:26.202>Yeah. <00:24:26.358>That's <00:24:26.513>bad, <00:24:26.669>isn't <00:24:26.825>it?

599
00:24:33.025 --> 00:24:34.235
<00:24:33.025>What, <00:24:33.206>in <00:24:33.388>what <00:24:33.569>way <00:24:33.751>didn't <00:24:33.932>it <00:24:34.114>work?

600
00:24:34.495 --> 00:24:36.875
<00:24:34.495>Was <00:24:34.622>it <00:24:34.749>like, <00:24:34.876>what <00:24:35.004>do <00:24:35.131>you <00:24:35.258>need <00:24:35.385>to <00:24:35.513>make <00:24:35.640>a <00:24:35.767>bed <00:24:35.895>work?

601
00:24:36.975 --> 00:24:38.875
<00:24:36.975>You <00:24:37.115>just <00:24:37.254>get <00:24:37.395>on <00:24:37.534>it? <00:24:37.675>Am <00:24:37.814>I <00:24:37.955>being, <00:24:38.094>well, <00:24:38.235>I <00:24:38.375>guess

602
00:24:38.935 --> 00:24:42.035
<00:24:38.935>It <00:24:39.090>basically, <00:24:39.246>it, <00:24:39.401>it <00:24:39.557>failed <00:24:39.712>to <00:24:39.868>give <00:24:40.023>you <00:24:40.179>the <00:24:40.335>strength

603
00:24:42.135 --> 00:24:44.555
<00:24:42.135>or <00:24:42.290>the, <00:24:42.446>the, <00:24:42.601>the, <00:24:42.757>the, <00:24:42.912>uh, <00:24:43.068>the <00:24:43.223>hardness <00:24:43.379>of <00:24:43.535>it,

604
00:24:44.615 --> 00:24:46.715
<00:24:44.615>or <00:24:44.790>was <00:24:44.965>completely <00:24:45.140>soft <00:24:45.315>or, <00:24:45.490>I, <00:24:45.665>I <00:24:45.840>don't <00:24:46.015>know.

605
00:24:47.155 --> 00:24:49.195
<00:24:47.155>I <00:24:47.282>mean, <00:24:47.409>there's <00:24:47.536>lots <00:24:47.664>of <00:24:47.791>jokes <00:24:47.918>in <00:24:48.045>your <00:24:48.173>bed <00:24:48.300>getting <00:24:48.427>too <00:24:48.555>soft

606
00:24:49.195 --> 00:24:50.475
<00:24:49.195>because <00:24:49.579>AWS <00:24:49.963>is <00:24:50.347>down,

607
00:24:50.535 --> 00:24:53.915
<00:24:50.535>but <00:24:50.651>it's <00:24:50.768>probably <00:24:50.885>not, <00:24:51.001>not <00:24:51.118>a <00:24:51.235>thing <00:24:51.351>that <00:24:51.468>we <00:24:51.585>want <00:24:51.701>to <00:24:51.818>go <00:24:51.935>into.

608
00:24:53.935 --> 00:24:56.315
<00:24:53.935>But <00:24:54.090>it's <00:24:54.246>interesting <00:24:54.401>how <00:24:54.557>many <00:24:54.712>of <00:24:54.868>these <00:24:55.023>things <00:24:55.179>are <00:24:55.335>connected

609
00:24:56.375 --> 00:24:59.315
<00:24:56.375>and <00:24:56.550>it's <00:24:56.725>just <00:24:56.900>pretty <00:24:57.075>mental <00:24:57.250>that <00:24:57.425>this, <00:24:57.600>uh, <00:24:57.775>yeah.

610
00:25:00.145 --> 00:25:01.635
<00:25:00.145>This <00:25:00.480>kind <00:25:00.815>of <00:25:01.150>stuff. <00:25:01.485>Yeah.

611
00:25:01.635 --> 00:25:03.035
<00:25:01.635>I <00:25:01.792>always <00:25:01.950>wonder <00:25:02.107>like, <00:25:02.265>how <00:25:02.422>do <00:25:02.580>you <00:25:02.737>do <00:25:02.895>it

612
00:25:03.035 --> 00:25:04.475
<00:25:03.035>with <00:25:03.294>like <00:25:03.553>smart <00:25:03.812>locks <00:25:04.071>and <00:25:04.331>stuff?

613
00:25:04.545 --> 00:25:07.475
<00:25:04.545>Like <00:25:04.685>when, <00:25:04.825>when <00:25:04.965>there <00:25:05.105>is <00:25:05.245>a <00:25:05.385>power <00:25:05.525>outage, <00:25:05.665>do <00:25:05.805>they <00:25:05.945>unlock

614
00:25:07.535 --> 00:25:10.995
<00:25:07.535>or <00:25:07.735>do <00:25:07.935>they <00:25:08.135>lock <00:25:08.335>because <00:25:08.535>both <00:25:08.735>are <00:25:08.935>bad.

615
00:25:12.165 --> 00:25:13.165
Right?

616
00:25:14.875 --> 00:25:17.325
<00:25:14.875>Good <00:25:15.108>point. <00:25:15.341>How <00:25:15.575>do <00:25:15.808>you <00:25:16.041>set <00:25:16.275>that?

617
00:25:17.555 --> 00:25:21.835
<00:25:17.555>Like, <00:25:17.835>it's <00:25:18.115>a <00:25:18.395>weird <00:25:18.675>one. <00:25:18.955>Okay.

618
00:25:21.915 --> 00:25:24.195
<00:25:21.915>A <00:25:22.090>few <00:25:22.264>tips <00:25:22.440>and <00:25:22.615>tricks. <00:25:22.790>Here's <00:25:22.965>somebody <00:25:23.139>with <00:25:23.315>scripts

619
00:25:24.195 --> 00:25:28.115
<00:25:24.195>that <00:25:24.335>they <00:25:24.475>use <00:25:24.615>all <00:25:24.754>the <00:25:24.895>time, <00:25:25.034>which <00:25:25.175>are <00:25:25.314>some <00:25:25.455>clipboard <00:25:25.595>stuff,

620
00:25:28.185 --> 00:25:29.875
<00:25:28.185>file <00:25:28.885>management, <00:25:29.585>internet.

621
00:25:30.755 --> 00:25:33.875
<00:25:30.755>I <00:25:30.895>have <00:25:31.035>a <00:25:31.175>whole <00:25:31.315>list <00:25:31.455>of <00:25:31.595>little <00:25:31.735>scripts <00:25:31.875>that <00:25:32.015>I <00:25:32.155>use

622
00:25:33.875 --> 00:25:36.235
<00:25:33.875>for <00:25:34.015>myself <00:25:34.155>in <00:25:34.295>the <00:25:34.435>co <00:25:34.575>in <00:25:34.715>the <00:25:34.855>console, <00:25:34.995>in <00:25:35.135>the <00:25:35.275>browser,

623
00:25:36.895 --> 00:25:38.675
<00:25:36.895>and <00:25:37.245>also <00:25:37.595>on <00:25:37.945>the <00:25:38.295>terminal.

624
00:25:39.055 --> 00:25:41.515
<00:25:39.055>Am <00:25:39.195>I <00:25:39.335>weird <00:25:39.475>or <00:25:39.615>do <00:25:39.755>you <00:25:39.895>also <00:25:40.035>have <00:25:40.175>a, <00:25:40.315>a <00:25:40.455>list

625
00:25:41.535 --> 00:25:42.595
<00:25:41.535>of <00:25:41.773>things <00:25:42.012>that <00:25:42.250>you <00:25:42.489>do?

626
00:25:43.915 --> 00:25:47.255
<00:25:43.915>Do <00:25:44.115>we <00:25:44.315>all <00:25:44.514>have <00:25:44.715>our <00:25:44.915>little <00:25:45.115>library, <00:25:45.315>Raymond?

627
00:25:48.255 --> 00:25:51.335
<00:25:48.255>I, <00:25:48.410>I, <00:25:48.566>I <00:25:48.721>have <00:25:48.877>scripts. <00:25:49.032>Uh, <00:25:49.188>I <00:25:49.343>can't <00:25:49.499>remember <00:25:49.655>them.

628
00:25:51.515 --> 00:25:53.815
<00:25:51.515>So <00:25:51.690>I <00:25:51.865>have <00:25:52.040>to <00:25:52.215>use <00:25:52.390>a, <00:25:52.565>a <00:25:52.740>notebook <00:25:52.915>app

629
00:25:54.305 --> 00:25:57.295
<00:25:54.305>where <00:25:54.460>I <00:25:54.616>type <00:25:54.771>very <00:25:54.927>clearly <00:25:55.082>I'm <00:25:55.238>trying <00:25:55.393>to <00:25:55.549>do <00:25:55.705>X

630
00:25:57.475 --> 00:25:59.855
<00:25:57.475>and <00:25:57.630>then, <00:25:57.786>then <00:25:57.941>here's <00:25:58.097>the <00:25:58.252>script <00:25:58.408>so <00:25:58.563>I <00:25:58.719>can <00:25:58.875>remember,

631
00:25:59.875 --> 00:26:01.215
<00:25:59.875>oh <00:26:00.047>yeah, <00:26:00.219>this <00:26:00.391>is <00:26:00.564>how <00:26:00.736>I <00:26:00.908>did <00:26:01.081>it.

632
00:26:01.635 --> 00:26:04.775
<00:26:01.635>Uh, <00:26:01.915>one <00:26:02.195>of <00:26:02.475>them <00:26:02.754>was, <00:26:03.035>uh,

633
00:26:05.365 --> 00:26:08.295
<00:26:05.365>getting <00:26:05.540>a <00:26:05.715>video <00:26:05.890>from <00:26:06.065>a <00:26:06.240>popular <00:26:06.415>video <00:26:06.590>hosting <00:26:06.765>site.

634
00:26:08.415 --> 00:26:10.935
<00:26:08.415>I <00:26:08.542>won't <00:26:08.669>name <00:26:08.796>them, <00:26:08.924>uh, <00:26:09.051>but <00:26:09.178>you <00:26:09.305>can <00:26:09.433>find <00:26:09.560>command <00:26:09.687>light <00:26:09.815>tools.

635
00:26:11.055 --> 00:26:13.135
<00:26:11.055>I <00:26:11.255>will <00:26:11.455>download <00:26:11.655>the <00:26:11.855>video <00:26:12.055>to <00:26:12.255>your <00:26:12.455>system.

636
00:26:13.315 --> 00:26:14.895
<00:26:13.315>So <00:26:13.548>I <00:26:13.781>know <00:26:14.015>that <00:26:14.248>I <00:26:14.481>have <00:26:14.715>that.

637
00:26:15.055 --> 00:26:17.895
<00:26:15.055>I <00:26:15.195>also <00:26:15.335>know <00:26:15.475>it's <00:26:15.615>a <00:26:15.755>very <00:26:15.895>weird <00:26:16.035>long <00:26:16.175>command <00:26:16.315>line <00:26:16.455>tool.

638
00:26:17.995 --> 00:26:21.375
<00:26:17.995>So <00:26:18.169>I <00:26:18.344>store <00:26:18.520>in <00:26:18.695>my <00:26:18.870>low, <00:26:19.044>uh, <00:26:19.219>OneNote <00:26:19.395>app,

639
00:26:21.995 --> 00:26:23.855
<00:26:21.995>get <00:26:22.461>certain <00:26:22.928>site <00:26:23.395>video,

640
00:26:24.455 --> 00:26:25.735
<00:26:24.455>and <00:26:24.619>then <00:26:24.784>I <00:26:24.948>have <00:26:25.113>the <00:26:25.277>command <00:26:25.442>line <00:26:25.607>there.

641
00:26:26.495 --> 00:26:29.615
<00:26:26.495>Hmm. <00:26:26.669>Y-T-G-O-P <00:26:26.844>does <00:26:27.020>a <00:26:27.195>good <00:26:27.370>job <00:26:27.544>there, <00:26:27.719>so, <00:26:27.895>uh,

642
00:26:29.615 --> 00:26:31.055
<00:26:29.615>you <00:26:29.874>don't, <00:26:30.133>uh, <00:26:30.392>uh, <00:26:30.651>I <00:26:30.911>heard.

643
00:26:31.645 --> 00:26:35.275
<00:26:31.645>Yeah. <00:26:31.845>But <00:26:32.045>it's <00:26:32.245>interesting <00:26:32.445>that <00:26:32.645>like, <00:26:32.845>uh, <00:26:33.045>one,

644
00:26:35.585 --> 00:26:39.395
<00:26:35.585>once <00:26:35.740>you <00:26:35.896>actually <00:26:36.051>get <00:26:36.207>to <00:26:36.362>start <00:26:36.518>scripting, <00:26:36.673>you <00:26:36.829>don't <00:26:36.985>want

645
00:26:39.395 --> 00:26:41.155
<00:26:39.395>to <00:26:39.595>go <00:26:39.795>back <00:26:39.995>to <00:26:40.195>anything <00:26:40.395>else <00:26:40.595>any <00:26:40.795>longer

646
00:26:41.155 --> 00:26:44.245
<00:26:41.155>because <00:26:41.355>it's, <00:26:41.555>it's, <00:26:41.754>it <00:26:41.955>is, <00:26:42.155>it <00:26:42.355>feels <00:26:42.555>weird

647
00:26:44.245 --> 00:26:46.965
<00:26:44.245>because <00:26:44.478>it's <00:26:44.711>incomprehensible <00:26:44.945>to <00:26:45.178>normal <00:26:45.411>human <00:26:45.645>beings,

648
00:26:46.985 --> 00:26:48.965
<00:26:46.985>but <00:26:47.264>it's <00:26:47.544>just <00:26:47.824>so <00:26:48.104>incredibly <00:26:48.385>powerful.

649
00:26:48.965 --> 00:26:52.205
<00:26:48.965>And <00:26:49.105>I <00:26:49.245>keep <00:26:49.385>blowing, <00:26:49.524>uh, <00:26:49.665>Dan's <00:26:49.804>mind <00:26:49.945>with <00:26:50.084>like <00:26:50.225>a <00:26:50.365>few

650
00:26:52.205 --> 00:26:54.325
<00:26:52.205>of <00:26:52.360>the <00:26:52.516>ff <00:26:52.671>impact <00:26:52.827>stuff <00:26:52.982>that <00:26:53.138>I <00:26:53.293>do <00:26:53.449>for <00:26:53.605>us.

651
00:26:54.985 --> 00:26:58.565
<00:26:54.985>And <00:26:55.101>it's <00:26:55.218>just <00:26:55.334>like, <00:26:55.451>as <00:26:55.568>soon <00:26:55.685>as <00:26:55.801>you <00:26:55.918>got, <00:26:56.034>uh, <00:26:56.151>past <00:26:56.268>that <00:26:56.385>fear

652
00:26:58.585 --> 00:26:59.885
<00:26:58.585>of <00:26:59.170>like <00:26:59.755>Rex

653
00:27:00.025 --> 00:27:02.765
<00:27:00.025>and <00:27:00.258>the <00:27:00.491>weird <00:27:00.725>syntax, <00:27:00.958>you <00:27:01.191>can <00:27:01.425>do

654
00:27:02.825 --> 00:27:04.125
<00:27:02.825>so <00:27:03.059>many <00:27:03.293>cool <00:27:03.527>things <00:27:03.761>with <00:27:03.995>that.

655
00:27:06.785 --> 00:27:08.635
<00:27:06.785>Yeah. <00:27:07.065>Any, <00:27:07.345>pretty <00:27:07.625>much <00:27:07.905>any <00:27:08.185>process

656
00:27:08.825 --> 00:27:10.355
<00:27:08.825>that <00:27:09.021>I <00:27:09.218>do <00:27:09.415>more <00:27:09.611>than <00:27:09.808>once <00:27:10.005>I <00:27:10.202>try

657
00:27:10.355 --> 00:27:11.915
<00:27:10.355>to <00:27:10.555>make <00:27:10.755>something <00:27:10.955>for, <00:27:11.155>like, <00:27:11.355>from <00:27:11.555>my <00:27:11.755>blog.

658
00:27:11.995 --> 00:27:13.555
<00:27:11.995>I <00:27:12.228>have <00:27:12.461>a <00:27:12.695>couple <00:27:12.928>different <00:27:13.161>scripts <00:27:13.395>just

659
00:27:13.555 --> 00:27:14.835
<00:27:13.555>because <00:27:13.785>I'm <00:27:14.015>writing <00:27:14.246>all <00:27:14.476>the <00:27:14.707>time

660
00:27:14.895 --> 00:27:17.995
<00:27:14.895>and <00:27:15.050>they're <00:27:15.206>focused <00:27:15.361>on <00:27:15.517>making <00:27:15.672>that <00:27:15.828>part <00:27:15.983>easier <00:27:16.139>for <00:27:16.295>me.

661
00:27:19.035 --> 00:27:23.505
<00:27:19.035>Hmm. <00:27:19.162>So, <00:27:19.289>yeah, <00:27:19.416>I <00:27:19.544>mean, <00:27:19.671>the <00:27:19.798>other <00:27:19.925>thing <00:27:20.053>is <00:27:20.180>also, <00:27:20.307>like, <00:27:20.435>you,

662
00:27:23.525 --> 00:27:26.185
<00:27:23.525>you <00:27:23.680>normally <00:27:23.836>try <00:27:23.991>to <00:27:24.147>share <00:27:24.302>them, <00:27:24.458>like <00:27:24.613>this <00:27:24.769>blog <00:27:24.925>post

663
00:27:26.325 --> 00:27:29.265
<00:27:26.325>and <00:27:26.465>stuff, <00:27:26.605>but <00:27:26.745>I, <00:27:26.885>I <00:27:27.025>found <00:27:27.165>that <00:27:27.305>people <00:27:27.445>don't <00:27:27.585>use <00:27:27.725>them,

664
00:27:29.295 --> 00:27:30.505
<00:27:29.295>they <00:27:29.567>just <00:27:29.839>write <00:27:30.111>their <00:27:30.384>own.

665
00:27:30.605 --> 00:27:33.145
<00:27:30.605>And <00:27:30.745>like, <00:27:30.885>I <00:27:31.025>think <00:27:31.165>it's <00:27:31.305>the, <00:27:31.445>the, <00:27:31.585>the <00:27:31.725>right <00:27:31.865>of <00:27:32.005>passage

666
00:27:33.325 --> 00:27:36.025
<00:27:33.325>to <00:27:33.480>actually <00:27:33.636>understand <00:27:33.791>your <00:27:33.947>own <00:27:34.102>scripts <00:27:34.258>that <00:27:34.413>that <00:27:34.569>makes <00:27:34.725>it.

667
00:27:36.085 --> 00:27:38.585
<00:27:36.085>So <00:27:36.201>sharing <00:27:36.318>them <00:27:36.435>is <00:27:36.551>not <00:27:36.668>as <00:27:36.785>useful <00:27:36.901>as <00:27:37.018>we <00:27:37.135>thought <00:27:37.251>it <00:27:37.368>would <00:27:37.485>be.

668
00:27:39.935 --> 00:27:42.905
<00:27:39.935>This <00:27:40.075>exact <00:27:40.215>type <00:27:40.355>of <00:27:40.495>content, <00:27:40.635>I <00:27:40.774>think <00:27:40.915>is, <00:27:41.054>is <00:27:41.195>exactly <00:27:41.335>that.

669
00:27:42.905 --> 00:27:45.065
<00:27:42.905>Like <00:27:43.105>the <00:27:43.305>people <00:27:43.504>who <00:27:43.705>do <00:27:43.905>this <00:27:44.105>don't <00:27:44.305>want

670
00:27:45.065 --> 00:27:46.145
<00:27:45.065>to <00:27:45.389>use <00:27:45.713>anybody <00:27:46.037>else's.

671
00:27:46.145 --> 00:27:47.145
<00:27:46.145>They <00:27:46.370>wanna <00:27:46.595>write <00:27:46.820>their <00:27:47.045>own.

672
00:27:49.965 --> 00:27:53.235
<00:27:49.965>We're <00:27:50.165>a <00:27:50.365>strange <00:27:50.564>type. <00:27:50.764>I <00:27:50.965>like <00:27:51.165>that <00:27:51.365>one.

673
00:27:53.235 --> 00:27:56.435
<00:27:53.235>This <00:27:53.362>is <00:27:53.489>a <00:27:53.616>web <00:27:53.744>component <00:27:53.871>that <00:27:53.998>allows <00:27:54.125>you <00:27:54.253>to <00:27:54.380>actually <00:27:54.507>use, <00:27:54.635>uh,

674
00:27:56.655 --> 00:28:00.675
<00:27:56.655>uh, <00:27:56.795>show <00:27:56.935>syntax <00:27:57.075>highlighted <00:27:57.215>code <00:27:57.355>in <00:27:57.495>your, <00:27:57.635>uh, <00:27:57.774>in <00:27:57.915>your <00:27:58.055>blog

675
00:28:00.775 --> 00:28:02.595
<00:28:00.775>or <00:28:01.125>HTML <00:28:01.475>site <00:28:01.825>or <00:28:02.175>anything.

676
00:28:02.975 --> 00:28:05.555
<00:28:02.975>And <00:28:03.115>it's <00:28:03.254>one <00:28:03.395>of <00:28:03.534>those <00:28:03.675>that <00:28:03.814>doesn't <00:28:03.955>generate <00:28:04.094>like <00:28:04.235>a <00:28:04.375>ton

677
00:28:05.555 --> 00:28:07.955
<00:28:05.555>of <00:28:05.788>diffs <00:28:06.021>and, <00:28:06.255>uh, <00:28:06.488>and, <00:28:06.721>and <00:28:06.955>spans.

678
00:28:08.755 --> 00:28:09.915
<00:28:08.755>'cause <00:28:08.963>it's <00:28:09.172>always <00:28:09.381>a <00:28:09.590>tricky <00:28:09.799>thing.

679
00:28:09.915 --> 00:28:13.875
<00:28:09.915>Like <00:28:10.055>what, <00:28:10.195>how <00:28:10.335>do <00:28:10.475>you <00:28:10.615>display <00:28:10.754>demo <00:28:10.895>code <00:28:11.034>in <00:28:11.175>an <00:28:11.315>article?

680
00:28:13.905 --> 00:28:16.915
<00:28:13.905>Like, <00:28:14.045>do <00:28:14.185>you <00:28:14.325>make <00:28:14.465>it <00:28:14.605>an <00:28:14.745>image <00:28:14.885>so <00:28:15.024>it's <00:28:15.165>actually, <00:28:15.305>uh,

681
00:28:17.115 --> 00:28:19.915
<00:28:17.115>beautiful <00:28:17.315>but <00:28:17.515>actually <00:28:17.715>not <00:28:17.915>accessible <00:28:18.115>and <00:28:18.315>not <00:28:18.515>readable?

682
00:28:20.295 --> 00:28:22.595
<00:28:20.295>Or <00:28:20.450>do <00:28:20.606>you <00:28:20.761>make <00:28:20.917>it <00:28:21.072>code <00:28:21.228>for <00:28:21.383>copy <00:28:21.539>and <00:28:21.695>pasting

683
00:28:22.775 --> 00:28:25.275
<00:28:22.775>and <00:28:22.950>like, <00:28:23.125>do <00:28:23.300>you <00:28:23.475>make <00:28:23.650>it <00:28:23.825>like <00:28:24.000>color <00:28:24.175>coded?

684
00:28:25.375 --> 00:28:28.795
<00:28:25.375>And <00:28:25.502>I <00:28:25.629>found <00:28:25.756>that <00:28:25.884>like, <00:28:26.011>I'm <00:28:26.138>using <00:28:26.265>a <00:28:26.393>really <00:28:26.520>old, <00:28:26.647>well <00:28:26.775>code,

685
00:28:28.935 --> 00:28:31.875
<00:28:28.935>uh, <00:28:29.110>code <00:28:29.284>Gs <00:28:29.460>highlight <00:28:29.635>blah, <00:28:29.810>whatever <00:28:29.985>in, <00:28:30.159>in <00:28:30.335>WordPress.

686
00:28:31.875 --> 00:28:34.035
<00:28:31.875>And <00:28:32.108>it's <00:28:32.341>like, <00:28:32.575>it's <00:28:32.808>using <00:28:33.041>table <00:28:33.275>layouts

687
00:28:34.035 --> 00:28:36.995
<00:28:34.035>and <00:28:34.175>everything <00:28:34.315>in <00:28:34.455>there, <00:28:34.595>but <00:28:34.735>I'm, <00:28:34.875>uh, <00:28:35.015>it <00:28:35.155>just, <00:28:35.295>I <00:28:35.435>mean,

688
00:28:36.995 --> 00:28:40.235
<00:28:36.995>I've <00:28:37.122>got <00:28:37.249>2,700 <00:28:37.376>blog <00:28:37.504>post <00:28:37.631>that <00:28:37.758>would <00:28:37.885>break <00:28:38.013>if <00:28:38.140>I <00:28:38.267>changed <00:28:38.395>it

689
00:28:40.235 --> 00:28:41.435
<00:28:40.235>to <00:28:40.504>something <00:28:40.774>else <00:28:41.044>right <00:28:41.315>now.

690
00:28:41.975 --> 00:28:44.235
<00:28:41.975>But <00:28:42.115>it <00:28:42.254>might <00:28:42.395>be <00:28:42.534>good <00:28:42.675>to <00:28:42.814>use <00:28:42.955>a <00:28:43.094>component <00:28:43.235>like <00:28:43.375>that

691
00:28:44.335 --> 00:28:45.435
<00:28:44.335>to <00:28:44.582>not <00:28:44.830>have <00:28:45.077>that <00:28:45.325>problem.

692
00:28:46.825 --> 00:28:50.715
<00:28:46.825>I've <00:28:46.941>used, <00:28:47.058>uh, <00:28:47.175>prism <00:28:47.291>js <00:28:47.408>I <00:28:47.525>think <00:28:47.641>for <00:28:47.758>like <00:28:47.875>five <00:28:47.991>or <00:28:48.108>so <00:28:48.225>years.

693
00:28:51.515 --> 00:28:53.155
<00:28:51.515>I <00:28:51.748>honestly <00:28:51.981>don't <00:28:52.215>know <00:28:52.448>what <00:28:52.681>it's <00:28:52.915>doing.

694
00:28:53.235 --> 00:28:55.795
<00:28:53.235>I <00:28:53.375>think <00:28:53.514>it <00:28:53.655>may <00:28:53.794>be <00:28:53.935>doing <00:28:54.074>a <00:28:54.215>bunch <00:28:54.354>of <00:28:54.495>divs, <00:28:54.635>uh,

695
00:28:55.855 --> 00:28:57.515
<00:28:55.855>but <00:28:56.321>it <00:28:56.788>looks <00:28:57.255>nice.

696
00:28:57.745 --> 00:28:59.555
<00:28:57.745>It's <00:28:57.978>readable. <00:28:58.211>That's <00:28:58.445>what <00:28:58.678>I <00:28:58.911>care <00:28:59.145>about.

697
00:29:00.145 --> 00:29:02.995
<00:29:00.145>It's, <00:29:00.300>isn't <00:29:00.456>it, <00:29:00.611>that <00:29:00.767>actually <00:29:00.922>did <00:29:01.078>it, <00:29:01.233>I <00:29:01.389>think. <00:29:01.545>Yeah.

698
00:29:03.175 --> 00:29:04.275
<00:29:03.175>So <00:29:03.373>that <00:29:03.571>was <00:29:03.769>pretty <00:29:03.967>cool. <00:29:04.165>Yeah.

699
00:29:05.415 --> 00:29:08.915
<00:29:05.415>Now <00:29:05.590>same <00:29:05.764>document <00:29:05.940>route <00:29:06.115>transitions <00:29:06.290>on <00:29:06.465>our <00:29:06.639>baseline, <00:29:06.815>uh,

700
00:29:08.945 --> 00:29:11.675
<00:29:08.945>that <00:29:09.178>was <00:29:09.411>Ramos <00:29:09.645>on <00:29:09.878>the <00:29:10.111>thing <00:29:10.345>now.

701
00:29:12.515 --> 00:29:13.715
<00:29:12.515>I <00:29:12.785>haven't <00:29:13.055>used <00:29:13.325>them <00:29:13.595>yet.

702
00:29:13.935 --> 00:29:16.275
<00:29:13.935>Dan, <00:29:14.110>you've <00:29:14.284>been <00:29:14.460>looking <00:29:14.635>into <00:29:14.810>view <00:29:14.985>transitions <00:29:15.159>a <00:29:15.335>bit.

703
00:29:16.455 --> 00:29:18.235
<00:29:16.455>It <00:29:16.688>seems <00:29:16.921>like <00:29:17.155>the, <00:29:17.388>the, <00:29:17.621>the <00:29:17.855>thing

704
00:29:18.255 --> 00:29:20.715
<00:29:18.255>to <00:29:18.410>make <00:29:18.566>everything <00:29:18.721>look <00:29:18.877>like <00:29:19.032>an <00:29:19.188>SPA, <00:29:19.343>but <00:29:19.499>it's <00:29:19.655>not.

705
00:29:21.465 --> 00:29:22.475
<00:29:21.465>Yeah, <00:29:21.919>pretty <00:29:22.373>much.

706
00:29:22.715 --> 00:29:24.595
<00:29:22.715>I <00:29:22.915>would <00:29:23.115>say <00:29:23.314>it's <00:29:23.514>the <00:29:23.715>react <00:29:23.915>effect <00:29:24.115>really.

707
00:29:24.705 --> 00:29:27.555
<00:29:24.705>It's, <00:29:24.821>um, <00:29:24.938>uh, <00:29:25.054>and <00:29:25.171>I <00:29:25.288>get <00:29:25.405>it, <00:29:25.521>you <00:29:25.638>know, <00:29:25.754>it's <00:29:25.871>natural <00:29:25.988>that <00:29:26.105>kind

708
00:29:27.555 --> 00:29:30.795
<00:29:27.555>of <00:29:27.710>people <00:29:27.866>want <00:29:28.021>to, <00:29:28.177>um, <00:29:28.332>create, <00:29:28.488>you <00:29:28.643>know, <00:29:28.799>recreate <00:29:28.955>some

709
00:29:30.795 --> 00:29:32.115
<00:29:30.795>of <00:29:30.964>the <00:29:31.134>effects <00:29:31.304>they <00:29:31.473>see <00:29:31.643>on, <00:29:31.813>on <00:29:31.983>kind

710
00:29:32.115 --> 00:29:33.435
<00:29:32.115>of <00:29:32.412>modern <00:29:32.709>framework <00:29:33.005>based <00:29:33.303>sites.

711
00:29:33.575 --> 00:29:37.155
<00:29:33.575>But, <00:29:33.691>um, <00:29:33.808>I <00:29:33.925>still <00:29:34.041>writing <00:29:34.158>the <00:29:34.275>article <00:29:34.391>a <00:29:34.508>few <00:29:34.625>weeks <00:29:34.741>back <00:29:34.858>on <00:29:34.975>it,

712
00:29:37.155 --> 00:29:38.435
<00:29:37.155>you <00:29:37.347>know, <00:29:37.539>I, <00:29:37.731>I <00:29:37.923>do <00:29:38.115>like <00:29:38.307>it.

713
00:29:38.555 --> 00:29:40.755
<00:29:38.555>I <00:29:38.835>feel <00:29:39.115>that <00:29:39.395>it's, <00:29:39.675>um, <00:29:39.955>possibly

714
00:29:40.815 --> 00:29:43.445
<00:29:40.815>for <00:29:41.015>some <00:29:41.215>Debs <00:29:41.415>they're <00:29:41.615>gonna <00:29:41.815>say, <00:29:42.015>oh, <00:29:42.215>it's,

715
00:29:43.445 --> 00:29:44.645
<00:29:43.445>it's <00:29:43.661>a <00:29:43.877>little <00:29:44.092>bit <00:29:44.309>too <00:29:44.525>complex.

716
00:29:44.795 --> 00:29:46.565
<00:29:44.795>It's <00:29:44.970>not <00:29:45.145>really, <00:29:45.320>but <00:29:45.495>it <00:29:45.670>just <00:29:45.845>on <00:29:46.020>the <00:29:46.195>surface,

717
00:29:46.755 --> 00:29:49.525
<00:29:46.755>because <00:29:46.910>they <00:29:47.066>might <00:29:47.221>feel <00:29:47.377>like, <00:29:47.532>well, <00:29:47.688>if <00:29:47.843>I <00:29:47.999>just <00:29:48.155>stick

718
00:29:49.525 --> 00:29:51.765
<00:29:49.525>with <00:29:49.680>my <00:29:49.836>react <00:29:49.991>way <00:29:50.147>of <00:29:50.302>working, <00:29:50.458>I've <00:29:50.613>already <00:29:50.769>got <00:29:50.925>the,

719
00:29:51.925 --> 00:29:54.205
<00:29:51.925>I <00:29:52.065>believe <00:29:52.205>it's <00:29:52.345>the, <00:29:52.485>I'm <00:29:52.625>not <00:29:52.764>sure <00:29:52.905>what <00:29:53.044>it's <00:29:53.185>called <00:29:53.325>now,

720
00:29:54.215 --> 00:29:55.485
<00:29:54.215>react <00:29:54.500>transition <00:29:54.786>or <00:29:55.072>something <00:29:55.358>like

721
00:29:55.485 --> 00:29:56.685
<00:29:55.485>this <00:29:55.844>React <00:29:56.205>View <00:29:56.565>transition.

722
00:29:56.795 --> 00:29:58.165
<00:29:56.795>There's <00:29:57.000>a <00:29:57.206>package <00:29:57.411>that <00:29:57.617>comes <00:29:57.822>with <00:29:58.028>it

723
00:29:58.185 --> 00:29:59.485
<00:29:58.185>and <00:29:58.477>everyone <00:29:58.770>just <00:29:59.062>uses <00:29:59.355>that.

724
00:29:59.705 --> 00:30:02.365
<00:29:59.705>And <00:29:59.832>the <00:29:59.959>point <00:30:00.086>of <00:30:00.214>the <00:30:00.341>article <00:30:00.468>is <00:30:00.595>to <00:30:00.723>say <00:30:00.850>it's, <00:30:00.977>it's <00:30:01.105>not

725
00:30:02.365 --> 00:30:05.165
<00:30:02.365>that <00:30:02.520>much <00:30:02.676>more <00:30:02.831>difficult <00:30:02.987>to <00:30:03.142>do <00:30:03.298>it <00:30:03.453>using <00:30:03.609>the <00:30:03.765>web.

726
00:30:05.305 --> 00:30:07.685
<00:30:05.305>Um, <00:30:05.460>it's <00:30:05.616>just <00:30:05.771>whether <00:30:05.927>people <00:30:06.082>will <00:30:06.238>put <00:30:06.393>that <00:30:06.549>time <00:30:06.705>in.

727
00:30:08.085 --> 00:30:10.605
<00:30:08.085>I <00:30:08.212>quite <00:30:08.339>like <00:30:08.466>the <00:30:08.594>demo <00:30:08.721>though, <00:30:08.848>I <00:30:08.975>will <00:30:09.103>say <00:30:09.230>on <00:30:09.357>that <00:30:09.485>webpage,

728
00:30:10.605 --> 00:30:12.485
<00:30:10.605>they've, <00:30:10.838>they've <00:30:11.071>used <00:30:11.305>them <00:30:11.538>to <00:30:11.771>demonstrate <00:30:12.005>it.

729
00:30:12.585 --> 00:30:14.285
<00:30:12.585>So <00:30:12.818>it <00:30:13.051>works <00:30:13.285>quite <00:30:13.518>well <00:30:13.751>there <00:30:13.985>to,

730
00:30:14.825 --> 00:30:16.845
<00:30:14.825>Wasn't <00:30:15.105>there <00:30:15.385>already <00:30:15.665>an <00:30:15.945>announcement <00:30:16.225>now

731
00:30:16.845 --> 00:30:19.005
<00:30:16.845>that <00:30:17.078>Safari <00:30:17.311>has <00:30:17.545>broken <00:30:17.778>it <00:30:18.011>somehow <00:30:18.245>again,

732
00:30:19.025 --> 00:30:21.525
<00:30:19.025>and <00:30:19.165>we <00:30:19.305>have <00:30:19.445>to <00:30:19.585>think <00:30:19.725>about <00:30:19.865>wait <00:30:20.005>for <00:30:20.145>the <00:30:20.285>next <00:30:20.425>version?

733
00:30:23.155 --> 00:30:24.915
<00:30:23.155>I <00:30:23.355>think <00:30:23.555>there <00:30:23.754>was <00:30:23.955>something <00:30:24.155>there, <00:30:24.355>but <00:30:24.555>yeah.

734
00:30:25.345 --> 00:30:26.755
<00:30:25.345>Okay. <00:30:25.662>But <00:30:25.979>yeah. <00:30:26.296>Oh, <00:30:26.614>there

735
00:30:26.755 --> 00:30:27.755
<00:30:26.755>Is, <00:30:27.655>yeah.

736
00:30:27.815 --> 00:30:29.755
<00:30:27.815>Uh, <00:30:28.095>personally, <00:30:28.375>I'm, <00:30:28.655>I'm <00:30:28.935>just <00:30:29.215>happy

737
00:30:29.775 --> 00:30:33.275
<00:30:29.775>to <00:30:29.950>see <00:30:30.125>anything <00:30:30.300>talking <00:30:30.475>about <00:30:30.650>non <00:30:30.825>SPA, <00:30:31.000>like, <00:30:31.175>uh,

738
00:30:33.275 --> 00:30:35.675
<00:30:33.275>for <00:30:33.475>10 <00:30:33.675>years <00:30:33.875>now, <00:30:34.075>like <00:30:34.275>the <00:30:34.475>assumption <00:30:34.675>is

739
00:30:35.675 --> 00:30:38.075
<00:30:35.675>that <00:30:35.850>every <00:30:36.024>single <00:30:36.200>website <00:30:36.375>has <00:30:36.550>to <00:30:36.725>be <00:30:36.899>an <00:30:37.075>SPA.

740
00:30:38.095 --> 00:30:41.115
<00:30:38.095>And <00:30:38.328>when <00:30:38.561>I <00:30:38.795>would <00:30:39.028>talk <00:30:39.261>about <00:30:39.495>PWAs,

741
00:30:41.435 --> 00:30:45.115
<00:30:41.435>I <00:30:41.575>would <00:30:41.715>stress <00:30:41.855>everything <00:30:41.995>we <00:30:42.135>talk <00:30:42.274>about <00:30:42.415>in <00:30:42.554>building <00:30:42.695>a <00:30:42.835>PWA,

742
00:30:45.115 --> 00:30:47.715
<00:30:45.115>everything <00:30:45.348>applies <00:30:45.581>to <00:30:45.815>every <00:30:46.048>website <00:30:46.281>out <00:30:46.515>there.

743
00:30:48.355 --> 00:30:50.715
<00:30:48.355>Hmm. <00:30:48.588>You <00:30:48.821>can <00:30:49.055>do <00:30:49.288>the, <00:30:49.521>the <00:30:49.755>caching,

744
00:30:50.975 --> 00:30:53.595
<00:30:50.975>you <00:30:51.115>can <00:30:51.254>do <00:30:51.395>all <00:30:51.534>these <00:30:51.675>things <00:30:51.814>to <00:30:51.955>store <00:30:52.094>data <00:30:52.235>without <00:30:52.375>having

745
00:30:53.855 --> 00:30:55.275
<00:30:53.855>an <00:30:54.281>SPA <00:30:54.707>as <00:30:55.133>well.

746
00:30:56.015 --> 00:30:59.275
<00:30:56.015>Uh, <00:30:56.170>so <00:30:56.326>I'm, <00:30:56.481>I'm, <00:30:56.637>I'm <00:30:56.792>happy <00:30:56.948>to <00:30:57.103>see <00:30:57.259>people <00:30:57.415>remembering

747
00:30:59.545 --> 00:31:01.595
<00:30:59.545>that <00:30:59.778>you <00:31:00.011>don't <00:31:00.245>need <00:31:00.478>to <00:31:00.711>use <00:31:00.945>React

748
00:31:01.595 --> 00:31:02.995
<00:31:01.595>or <00:31:01.775>you <00:31:01.955>don't <00:31:02.135>need <00:31:02.315>to <00:31:02.495>use <00:31:02.675>a <00:31:02.855>framework.

749
00:31:03.015 --> 00:31:07.155
<00:31:03.015>You <00:31:03.190>can <00:31:03.365>have <00:31:03.540>a <00:31:03.715>multi <00:31:03.890>document <00:31:04.065>application <00:31:04.240>or <00:31:04.415>whatever.

750
00:31:07.775 --> 00:31:10.555
<00:31:07.775>I'm <00:31:07.975>happy <00:31:08.175>for <00:31:08.375>that <00:31:08.575>outside <00:31:08.775>of <00:31:08.975>that <00:31:09.175>transitions

751
00:31:10.555 --> 00:31:11.555
<00:31:10.555>or <00:31:10.855>something <00:31:11.155>where <00:31:11.455>like,

752
00:31:12.035 --> 00:31:14.155
<00:31:12.035>whenever <00:31:12.210>I <00:31:12.385>talk <00:31:12.560>about <00:31:12.735>it <00:31:12.910>on <00:31:13.085>stage, <00:31:13.260>I'm <00:31:13.435>like,

753
00:31:14.815 --> 00:31:17.075
<00:31:14.815>before <00:31:15.048>you <00:31:15.281>add <00:31:15.515>a <00:31:15.748>transition, <00:31:15.981>add <00:31:16.215>it,

754
00:31:17.415 --> 00:31:19.395
<00:31:17.415>sit <00:31:17.590>at <00:31:17.764>your <00:31:17.940>desk, <00:31:18.115>run <00:31:18.290>it <00:31:18.465>a <00:31:18.639>hundred <00:31:18.815>times.

755
00:31:19.735 --> 00:31:21.475
<00:31:19.735>If <00:31:19.968>you <00:31:20.201>don't <00:31:20.435>hate <00:31:20.668>yourself, <00:31:20.901>keep <00:31:21.135>it.

756
00:31:23.455 --> 00:31:25.395
<00:31:23.455>That's <00:31:23.921>Brilliant. <00:31:24.388>Yeah. <00:31:24.855>Yeah.

757
00:31:25.425 --> 00:31:26.995
<00:31:25.425>It's <00:31:25.625>a <00:31:25.825>really <00:31:26.024>good <00:31:26.225>thing <00:31:26.425>because, <00:31:26.625>I <00:31:26.825>mean,

758
00:31:27.335 --> 00:31:29.075
<00:31:27.335>smooth <00:31:27.615>animations <00:31:27.895>when <00:31:28.175>they're <00:31:28.455>not <00:31:28.735>smooth

759
00:31:29.075 --> 00:31:32.675
<00:31:29.075>and <00:31:29.202>take <00:31:29.329>away <00:31:29.456>your <00:31:29.584>time, <00:31:29.711>it, <00:31:29.838>it's, <00:31:29.965>it's <00:31:30.093>really <00:31:30.220>not <00:31:30.347>that <00:31:30.475>fun.

760
00:31:32.675 --> 00:31:36.475
<00:31:32.675>Yeah. <00:31:32.955>Interesting. <00:31:33.235>I <00:31:33.514>love <00:31:33.794>this <00:31:34.075>one.

761
00:31:36.575 --> 00:31:39.315
<00:31:36.575>Uh, <00:31:36.808>unlocking <00:31:37.041>free <00:31:37.275>wifi <00:31:37.508>on <00:31:37.741>British <00:31:37.975>Airways.

762
00:31:39.595 --> 00:31:42.995
<00:31:39.595>Somebody <00:31:39.770>went <00:31:39.945>like <00:31:40.120>in <00:31:40.295>incredibly <00:31:40.470>amount <00:31:40.645>of <00:31:40.820>detail, <00:31:40.995>uh,

763
00:31:43.055 --> 00:31:46.395
<00:31:43.055>to <00:31:43.195>show <00:31:43.335>like <00:31:43.475>how <00:31:43.615>a <00:31:43.755>British <00:31:43.895>British <00:31:44.035>Airways <00:31:44.175>gives <00:31:44.315>you <00:31:44.455>like,

764
00:31:46.395 --> 00:31:50.115
<00:31:46.395>free <00:31:46.595>messaging <00:31:46.795>on <00:31:46.995>the <00:31:47.195>plane <00:31:47.395>during <00:31:47.595>wifi <00:31:47.795>thing,

765
00:31:50.115 --> 00:31:51.955
<00:31:50.115>but <00:31:50.395>it <00:31:50.675>charges <00:31:50.955>you <00:31:51.235>for <00:31:51.515>data.

766
00:31:52.495 --> 00:31:54.955
<00:31:52.495>And <00:31:52.669>then <00:31:52.844>he <00:31:53.020>basically <00:31:53.195>said <00:31:53.370>he <00:31:53.544>had <00:31:53.719>a <00:31:53.895>script

767
00:31:55.055 --> 00:31:56.915
<00:31:55.055>and <00:31:55.230>he <00:31:55.405>went <00:31:55.580>through <00:31:55.755>like <00:31:55.930>write <00:31:56.105>a <00:31:56.280>little <00:31:56.455>proxy

768
00:31:57.015 --> 00:31:59.115
<00:31:57.015>and <00:31:57.215>an <00:31:57.415>SSL <00:31:57.615>handshake <00:31:57.815>and <00:31:58.015>go <00:31:58.215>through <00:31:58.415>it

769
00:31:59.115 --> 00:32:02.355
<00:31:59.115>and <00:31:59.255>say <00:31:59.395>like, <00:31:59.535>okay, <00:31:59.675>now <00:31:59.815>I <00:31:59.955>can <00:32:00.095>actually, <00:32:00.235>with <00:32:00.375>this <00:32:00.515>script

770
00:32:02.375 --> 00:32:05.075
<00:32:02.375>and <00:32:02.515>the <00:32:02.655>proxy <00:32:02.795>running, <00:32:02.935>I <00:32:03.075>now <00:32:03.215>get <00:32:03.355>access <00:32:03.495>to <00:32:03.635>the <00:32:03.775>internet.

771
00:32:05.145 --> 00:32:07.235
<00:32:05.145>Whereas <00:32:05.320>like <00:32:05.495>other <00:32:05.670>people <00:32:05.845>would <00:32:06.020>just <00:32:06.195>pay <00:32:06.370>for <00:32:06.545>it.

772
00:32:07.655 --> 00:32:10.035
<00:32:07.655>But <00:32:07.855>I <00:32:08.055>find <00:32:08.254>it <00:32:08.455>fascinating <00:32:08.655>that <00:32:08.855>somebody <00:32:09.055>did

773
00:32:10.195 --> 00:32:11.275
<00:32:10.195>that <00:32:10.681>whole <00:32:11.167>analysis.

774
00:32:11.395 --> 00:32:12.875
<00:32:11.395>I <00:32:11.617>wonder <00:32:11.839>what, <00:32:12.061>I <00:32:12.283>wonder <00:32:12.505>what <00:32:12.727>British

775
00:32:12.885 --> 00:32:14.235
<00:32:12.885>Hours <00:32:13.128>is <00:32:13.370>gonna <00:32:13.614>do <00:32:13.857>about <00:32:14.100>it.

776
00:32:14.515 --> 00:32:17.555
<00:32:14.515>'cause <00:32:14.655>I <00:32:14.795>had <00:32:14.935>a <00:32:15.075>similar <00:32:15.215>thing <00:32:15.355>on <00:32:15.495>German <00:32:15.635>trains <00:32:15.775>that, <00:32:15.915>like,

777
00:32:17.815 --> 00:32:20.675
<00:32:17.815>it <00:32:17.942>has <00:32:18.069>free <00:32:18.196>wifi, <00:32:18.324>but <00:32:18.451>it <00:32:18.578>only <00:32:18.705>gives <00:32:18.833>you <00:32:18.960>like <00:32:19.087>200 <00:32:19.215>meg

778
00:32:20.675 --> 00:32:22.475
<00:32:20.675>of <00:32:20.908>traffic <00:32:21.141>or <00:32:21.375>500 <00:32:21.608>meg <00:32:21.841>of <00:32:22.075>traffic

779
00:32:22.535 --> 00:32:23.915
<00:32:22.535>or <00:32:22.712>something, <00:32:22.889>and <00:32:23.067>then <00:32:23.244>it <00:32:23.422>kicks <00:32:23.599>you <00:32:23.777>out.

780
00:32:24.335 --> 00:32:26.875
<00:32:24.335>So <00:32:24.462>what <00:32:24.589>you <00:32:24.716>need <00:32:24.844>to <00:32:24.971>do <00:32:25.098>is <00:32:25.225>basically <00:32:25.353>change <00:32:25.480>your <00:32:25.607>Mac <00:32:25.735>address

781
00:32:26.935 --> 00:32:29.075
<00:32:26.935>and <00:32:27.284>actually <00:32:27.635>re <00:32:27.985>uh, <00:32:28.335>reconnect.

782
00:32:29.175 --> 00:32:31.475
<00:32:29.175>Uh, <00:32:29.315>so <00:32:29.455>I <00:32:29.595>wrote <00:32:29.735>myself <00:32:29.875>a <00:32:30.014>script <00:32:30.155>to <00:32:30.294>do <00:32:30.435>that <00:32:30.575>automatically.

783
00:32:31.815 --> 00:32:34.715
<00:32:31.815>And <00:32:31.955>then <00:32:32.095>I, <00:32:32.235>I <00:32:32.375>think <00:32:32.515>I <00:32:32.655>tweeted <00:32:32.795>it <00:32:32.935>it <00:32:33.075>back <00:32:33.215>then,

784
00:32:34.775 --> 00:32:36.075
<00:32:34.775>and <00:32:35.067>people <00:32:35.360>then, <00:32:35.652>like, <00:32:35.945>uh,

785
00:32:36.155 --> 00:32:39.035
<00:32:36.155>I <00:32:36.271>got <00:32:36.388>a <00:32:36.504>letter <00:32:36.621>in <00:32:36.738>the <00:32:36.855>mail <00:32:36.971>from <00:32:37.088>the, <00:32:37.205>from <00:32:37.321>the, <00:32:37.438>uh, <00:32:37.555>from

786
00:32:39.595 --> 00:32:42.525
<00:32:39.595>them <00:32:39.735>later <00:32:39.875>on <00:32:40.015>saying <00:32:40.155>like, <00:32:40.295>uh, <00:32:40.435>uh, <00:32:40.575>saying <00:32:40.715>like, <00:32:40.855>don't <00:32:40.995>do

787
00:32:42.525 --> 00:32:44.445
<00:32:42.525>that, <00:32:42.725>please <00:32:42.925>and <00:32:43.125>don't <00:32:43.325>tell <00:32:43.525>people <00:32:43.725>about <00:32:43.925>that

788
00:32:46.595 --> 00:32:48.005
<00:32:46.595>Because <00:32:46.912>that <00:32:47.229>will <00:32:47.546>definitely <00:32:47.864>solve

789
00:32:48.005 --> 00:32:49.165
<00:32:48.005>it <00:32:48.154>if <00:32:48.303>we <00:32:48.452>just <00:32:48.601>don't <00:32:48.750>talk <00:32:48.899>about <00:32:49.049>it.

790
00:32:49.755 --> 00:32:52.645
<00:32:49.755>Yeah. <00:32:50.035>I <00:32:50.315>just <00:32:50.595>hope <00:32:50.875>this <00:32:51.155>stays

791
00:32:52.645 --> 00:32:53.685
<00:32:52.645>for <00:32:52.801>the <00:32:52.956>next <00:32:53.113>six <00:32:53.269>weeks <00:32:53.425>though, <00:32:53.581>Chris.

792
00:32:53.805 --> 00:32:55.565
<00:32:53.805>'cause <00:32:53.960>I'm <00:32:54.116>going <00:32:54.271>on <00:32:54.427>a <00:32:54.582>British <00:32:54.738>Airlines <00:32:54.893>flight <00:32:55.049>in <00:32:55.205>six

793
00:32:55.565 --> 00:32:56.805
<00:32:55.565>weeks, <00:32:55.788>so <00:32:56.011>I <00:32:56.234>wanna <00:32:56.457>try <00:32:56.681>this.

794
00:32:56.945 --> 00:32:58.685
<00:32:56.945>So <00:32:57.145>if <00:32:57.345>you <00:32:57.544>could <00:32:57.745>have <00:32:57.945>published <00:32:58.145>this <00:32:58.345>in

795
00:32:58.685 --> 00:32:59.725
<00:32:58.685>a <00:32:58.841>month's <00:32:58.996>time, <00:32:59.153>that <00:32:59.309>would've <00:32:59.465>been <00:32:59.620>great.

796
00:33:01.165 --> 00:33:02.605
<00:33:01.165>I <00:33:01.327>mean, <00:33:01.489>it's <00:33:01.651>normally <00:33:01.813>the <00:33:01.975>thing <00:33:02.137>like <00:33:02.299>when <00:33:02.461>you,

797
00:33:02.605 --> 00:33:04.845
<00:33:02.605>when <00:33:02.805>you <00:33:03.005>have <00:33:03.205>something, <00:33:03.405>you <00:33:03.605>connect <00:33:03.805>to <00:33:04.005>something

798
00:33:04.845 --> 00:33:08.685
<00:33:04.845>that <00:33:04.985>asks <00:33:05.125>you <00:33:05.265>to <00:33:05.405>log <00:33:05.545>in, <00:33:05.685>like <00:33:05.825>Google <00:33:05.965>Drive <00:33:06.105>and <00:33:06.245>Dropbox

799
00:33:08.705 --> 00:33:10.285
<00:33:08.705>and <00:33:08.985>all <00:33:09.264>these <00:33:09.544>things <00:33:09.824>already <00:33:10.105>connect

800
00:33:10.285 --> 00:33:11.965
<00:33:10.285>before <00:33:10.565>you <00:33:10.845>actually <00:33:11.125>entered <00:33:11.405>that <00:33:11.685>stuff.

801
00:33:12.065 --> 00:33:14.365
<00:33:12.065>So <00:33:12.220>yeah, <00:33:12.376>I <00:33:12.531>think <00:33:12.687>it's <00:33:12.842>the <00:33:12.998>same <00:33:13.153>level <00:33:13.309>of <00:33:13.465>like,

802
00:33:14.795 --> 00:33:17.285
<00:33:14.795>just <00:33:15.028>the <00:33:15.261>port <00:33:15.495>80 <00:33:15.728>traffic <00:33:15.961>is <00:33:16.195>blocked

803
00:33:17.335 --> 00:33:18.645
<00:33:17.335>until <00:33:17.629>you <00:33:17.924>put <00:33:18.219>something <00:33:18.514>in

804
00:33:18.645 --> 00:33:20.725
<00:33:18.645>and <00:33:18.800>then <00:33:18.956>you <00:33:19.111>just <00:33:19.267>tunnel <00:33:19.422>through <00:33:19.578>80 <00:33:19.733>and <00:33:19.889>you're <00:33:20.045>done.

805
00:33:22.175 --> 00:33:26.025
<00:33:22.175>This <00:33:22.375>felt <00:33:22.575>too <00:33:22.774>close <00:33:22.975>to <00:33:23.175>home, <00:33:23.375>sadly <00:33:23.575>enough.

806
00:33:26.685 --> 00:33:28.785
<00:33:26.685>It <00:33:26.825>used <00:33:26.965>to <00:33:27.105>be <00:33:27.245>common <00:33:27.385>for <00:33:27.524>people <00:33:27.665>in <00:33:27.804>the <00:33:27.945>late <00:33:28.085>thirties

807
00:33:28.885 --> 00:33:30.705
<00:33:28.885>to <00:33:29.165>forties <00:33:29.445>to <00:33:29.725>acquire <00:33:30.004>Project <00:33:30.285>Car,

808
00:33:30.705 --> 00:33:33.185
<00:33:30.705>which <00:33:30.845>was <00:33:30.985>often <00:33:31.125>high <00:33:31.264>school <00:33:31.405>dream <00:33:31.544>car <00:33:31.685>purchase <00:33:31.824>at <00:33:31.965>the <00:33:32.105>end

809
00:33:33.185 --> 00:33:36.225
<00:33:33.185>of <00:33:33.325>his <00:33:33.465>life <00:33:33.605>with <00:33:33.745>the <00:33:33.885>goal <00:33:34.024>of <00:33:34.165>restoring <00:33:34.304>in <00:33:34.445>the <00:33:34.585>2010,

810
00:33:36.245 --> 00:33:38.945
<00:33:36.245>the <00:33:36.400>retro <00:33:36.556>computing <00:33:36.711>scene <00:33:36.867>emerged <00:33:37.022>for <00:33:37.178>the <00:33:37.333>same <00:33:37.489>age <00:33:37.645>group.

811
00:33:40.965 --> 00:33:44.945
<00:33:40.965>It <00:33:41.105>feels <00:33:41.245>like <00:33:41.385>that <00:33:41.524>that <00:33:41.665>is <00:33:41.804>really, <00:33:41.945>uh, <00:33:42.084>that's <00:33:42.225>not <00:33:42.365>good.

812
00:33:48.685 --> 00:33:51.905
<00:33:48.685>But <00:33:48.812>yeah, <00:33:48.939>it's, <00:33:49.066>uh, <00:33:49.194>that's <00:33:49.321>the <00:33:49.448>way <00:33:49.575>we <00:33:49.703>are <00:33:49.830>Now <00:33:49.957>let's <00:33:50.085>talk

813
00:33:51.905 --> 00:33:54.825
<00:33:51.905>about <00:33:52.060>your <00:33:52.216>post <00:33:52.371>because, <00:33:52.527>uh, <00:33:52.682>you <00:33:52.838>have <00:33:52.993>to <00:33:53.149>go <00:33:53.305>early

814
00:33:54.885 --> 00:33:56.625
<00:33:54.885>to <00:33:55.060>pick <00:33:55.235>up <00:33:55.410>your <00:33:55.585>kids <00:33:55.760>from <00:33:55.935>school <00:33:56.110>and <00:33:56.285>stuff.

815
00:33:57.045 --> 00:34:01.825
<00:33:57.045>So <00:33:57.220>adding <00:33:57.395>generative <00:33:57.570>summaries <00:33:57.745>with <00:33:57.920>Chrome <00:33:58.095>ai, <00:33:58.270>what <00:33:58.445>does

816
00:34:01.825 --> 00:34:04.065
<00:34:01.825>that <00:34:02.025>mean <00:34:02.225>and <00:34:02.425>how <00:34:02.625>did <00:34:02.825>you <00:34:03.025>do <00:34:03.225>that?

817
00:34:05.005 --> 00:34:07.065
<00:34:05.005>So <00:34:05.205>the <00:34:05.405>Chrome <00:34:05.605>team, <00:34:05.805>for <00:34:06.005>about <00:34:06.205>a <00:34:06.405>year

818
00:34:07.285 --> 00:34:10.305
<00:34:07.285>or <00:34:07.460>so, <00:34:07.635>they've <00:34:07.810>been <00:34:07.985>working <00:34:08.159>on <00:34:08.335>adding <00:34:08.510>AI <00:34:08.685>models

819
00:34:10.445 --> 00:34:11.785
<00:34:10.445>to <00:34:10.847>the <00:34:11.248>browser <00:34:11.650>itself.

820
00:34:12.245 --> 00:34:14.225
<00:34:12.245>Uh, <00:34:12.444>they've <00:34:12.645>gone <00:34:12.844>through <00:34:13.045>a <00:34:13.245>bunch <00:34:13.444>of <00:34:13.645>iterations

821
00:34:14.445 --> 00:34:16.185
<00:34:14.445>and <00:34:14.795>different <00:34:15.145>APIs <00:34:15.495>and <00:34:15.845>such.

822
00:34:16.685 --> 00:34:19.825
<00:34:16.685>Uh, <00:34:16.824>they're <00:34:16.965>at <00:34:17.105>a <00:34:17.245>pretty <00:34:17.384>good <00:34:17.525>stage <00:34:17.665>now <00:34:17.804>where <00:34:17.945>I <00:34:18.085>think

823
00:34:19.825 --> 00:34:21.065
<00:34:19.824>of <00:34:20.197>the <00:34:20.569>six <00:34:20.940>APIs.

824
00:34:21.065 --> 00:34:23.745
<00:34:21.065>Three <00:34:21.298>are <00:34:21.531>actually <00:34:21.764>released, <00:34:21.998>uh, <00:34:22.231>Chrome <00:34:22.465>only.

825
00:34:23.855 --> 00:34:26.825
<00:34:23.855>Obviously, <00:34:24.030>you <00:34:24.205>know, <00:34:24.380>safari, <00:34:24.554>you'll <00:34:24.730>probably <00:34:24.905>never <00:34:25.080>add <00:34:25.255>it.

826
00:34:27.205 --> 00:34:31.625
<00:34:27.205>Uh, <00:34:27.404>but <00:34:27.605>for <00:34:27.804>progressive <00:34:28.005>enhancement <00:34:28.205>type, <00:34:28.404>uh, <00:34:28.605>examples,

827
00:34:31.905 --> 00:34:33.065
<00:34:31.905>I <00:34:32.113>think <00:34:32.322>it <00:34:32.531>works <00:34:32.740>really <00:34:32.949>well.

828
00:34:33.685 --> 00:34:38.385
<00:34:33.685>Uh, <00:34:33.860>API <00:34:34.034>is <00:34:34.210>relatively <00:34:34.384>simple, <00:34:34.560>much <00:34:34.735>like <00:34:34.909>how <00:34:35.085>most

829
00:34:38.385 --> 00:34:41.505
<00:34:38.385>of <00:34:38.618>gen <00:34:38.851>ai, <00:34:39.085>gen <00:34:39.318>ai, <00:34:39.551>server-based <00:34:39.785>APIs,

830
00:34:41.695 --> 00:34:43.345
<00:34:41.695>they're <00:34:42.045>pretty <00:34:42.395>simple <00:34:42.745>as <00:34:43.095>well.

831
00:34:44.075 --> 00:34:47.545
<00:34:44.074>Using <00:34:44.274>them <00:34:44.475>well <00:34:44.674>is <00:34:44.875>a <00:34:45.074>whole <00:34:45.274>other <00:34:45.475>factor,

832
00:34:47.565 --> 00:34:51.705
<00:34:47.565>but <00:34:47.692>at <00:34:47.819>least, <00:34:47.946>uh, <00:34:48.074>in <00:34:48.201>this <00:34:48.328>case, <00:34:48.455>it's <00:34:48.583>pretty <00:34:48.710>easy <00:34:48.837>to <00:34:48.965>say,

833
00:34:51.725 --> 00:34:53.185
<00:34:51.725>Hey, <00:34:51.987>if <00:34:52.250>they <00:34:52.513>have <00:34:52.776>this <00:34:53.038>API

834
00:34:53.185 --> 00:34:54.585
<00:34:53.185>and <00:34:53.605>this <00:34:54.025>fun <00:34:54.445>functionality,

835
00:34:55.245 --> 00:34:57.305
<00:34:55.245>we <00:34:55.420>can <00:34:55.594>provide <00:34:55.770>a <00:34:55.944>new <00:34:56.120>feature <00:34:56.295>to <00:34:56.469>our <00:34:56.645>users.

836
00:34:57.805 --> 00:35:02.025
<00:34:57.805>Uh, <00:34:57.980>and <00:34:58.154>I <00:34:58.330>think <00:34:58.504>things <00:34:58.680>like <00:34:58.855>summarization, <00:34:59.029>uh, <00:34:59.205>offering

837
00:35:02.045 --> 00:35:04.145
<00:35:02.045>to <00:35:02.200>rewrite, <00:35:02.356>uh, <00:35:02.511>you <00:35:02.667>know, <00:35:02.822>help <00:35:02.978>you <00:35:03.133>clean <00:35:03.289>up <00:35:03.445>texts

838
00:35:04.145 --> 00:35:05.745
<00:35:04.145>and <00:35:04.425>stuff, <00:35:04.705>uh, <00:35:04.985>those <00:35:05.265>are <00:35:05.545>kind

839
00:35:05.745 --> 00:35:08.105
<00:35:05.745>of <00:35:05.944>tools <00:35:06.145>I <00:35:06.345>could <00:35:06.545>actually <00:35:06.745>see <00:35:06.944>people <00:35:07.145>using.

840
00:35:08.645 --> 00:35:11.785
<00:35:08.645>Uh, <00:35:08.785>so <00:35:08.925>I'm, <00:35:09.065>I'm <00:35:09.205>happy <00:35:09.345>to <00:35:09.485>see <00:35:09.625>this <00:35:09.765>go <00:35:09.905>into <00:35:10.045>Chrome,

841
00:35:12.175 --> 00:35:15.265
<00:35:12.175>even <00:35:12.350>if <00:35:12.525>it's <00:35:12.700>only <00:35:12.875>Chrome <00:35:13.050>for <00:35:13.225>the, <00:35:13.400>uh, <00:35:13.575>future.

842
00:35:16.335 --> 00:35:20.695
<00:35:16.335>Hmm. <00:35:16.451>I <00:35:16.568>mean, <00:35:16.685>it <00:35:16.801>feels <00:35:16.918>cool <00:35:17.035>to <00:35:17.151>be <00:35:17.268>able <00:35:17.385>to <00:35:17.501>access <00:35:17.618>these <00:35:17.735>kind

843
00:35:20.695 --> 00:35:22.495
<00:35:20.695>of <00:35:20.850>things <00:35:21.006>and <00:35:21.161>I <00:35:21.317>love <00:35:21.472>it <00:35:21.628>because <00:35:21.783>it, <00:35:21.939>it <00:35:22.095>means

844
00:35:22.495 --> 00:35:24.255
<00:35:22.495>that <00:35:22.728>they <00:35:22.961>start <00:35:23.194>something <00:35:23.428>on <00:35:23.661>your <00:35:23.895>machine,

845
00:35:24.255 --> 00:35:26.535
<00:35:24.255>which <00:35:24.395>is <00:35:24.535>a <00:35:24.675>huge <00:35:24.815>model <00:35:24.955>or <00:35:25.095>a <00:35:25.235>small <00:35:25.375>model <00:35:25.515>as <00:35:25.655>well.

846
00:35:27.195 --> 00:35:29.695
<00:35:27.195>But <00:35:27.311>I <00:35:27.428>kind <00:35:27.545>of <00:35:27.661>always <00:35:27.778>feel <00:35:27.895>like <00:35:28.011>this <00:35:28.128>is <00:35:28.245>the <00:35:28.361>kind <00:35:28.478>of <00:35:28.595>stuff

847
00:35:29.695 --> 00:35:31.335
<00:35:29.695>that <00:35:29.975>I <00:35:30.255>expect <00:35:30.535>the <00:35:30.815>operating <00:35:31.095>system

848
00:35:31.355 --> 00:35:32.815
<00:35:31.355>or <00:35:31.574>the <00:35:31.793>browser <00:35:32.012>to <00:35:32.231>do <00:35:32.450>for <00:35:32.669>me.

849
00:35:33.125 --> 00:35:36.655
<00:35:33.125>Like, <00:35:33.265>you <00:35:33.405>know, <00:35:33.545>like <00:35:33.685>it <00:35:33.825>feels, <00:35:33.965>it <00:35:34.105>feels <00:35:34.245>like <00:35:34.385>when <00:35:34.525>people,

850
00:35:36.805 --> 00:35:39.005
<00:35:36.805>when <00:35:37.038>people <00:35:37.271>do <00:35:37.504>like <00:35:37.738>read <00:35:37.971>this, <00:35:38.205>uh,

851
00:35:39.115 --> 00:35:42.805
<00:35:39.115>blog <00:35:39.270>post <00:35:39.426>in <00:35:39.581>a <00:35:39.737>generated <00:35:39.892>voice <00:35:40.048>using <00:35:40.203>some <00:35:40.359>third <00:35:40.515>party

852
00:35:42.915 --> 00:35:46.165
<00:35:42.915>surveys, <00:35:43.090>I'm <00:35:43.265>like, <00:35:43.440>the <00:35:43.615>operating <00:35:43.790>system <00:35:43.965>can <00:35:44.140>do <00:35:44.315>that

853
00:35:46.225 --> 00:35:47.445
<00:35:46.225>for <00:35:46.499>me <00:35:46.774>nowadays <00:35:47.048>as <00:35:47.323>well.

854
00:35:47.555 --> 00:35:51.985
<00:35:47.555>Like <00:35:47.710>what's <00:35:47.866>the, <00:35:48.021>it <00:35:48.177>feels <00:35:48.332>like, <00:35:48.488>I <00:35:48.643>guess <00:35:48.799>Google <00:35:48.955>needs

855
00:35:51.985 --> 00:35:53.065
<00:35:51.985>that <00:35:52.309>internally <00:35:52.633>of <00:35:52.957>course.

856
00:35:53.445 --> 00:35:56.065
<00:35:53.445>So <00:35:53.600>they <00:35:53.756>actually <00:35:53.911>make <00:35:54.067>it <00:35:54.222>available <00:35:54.378>to <00:35:54.533>the <00:35:54.689>outside <00:35:54.845>world

857
00:35:56.085 --> 00:35:57.865
<00:35:56.085>as <00:35:56.285>an <00:35:56.485>a <00:35:56.685>PII <00:35:56.885>love <00:35:57.085>that <00:35:57.285>to <00:35:57.485>bits,

858
00:35:58.205 --> 00:35:59.665
<00:35:58.205>but <00:35:58.467>I'm <00:35:58.730>always <00:35:58.993>like <00:35:59.256>wondering <00:35:59.519>what,

859
00:35:59.665 --> 00:36:00.985
<00:35:59.665>what's <00:35:59.902>the <00:36:00.140>use <00:36:00.377>case <00:36:00.615>of <00:36:00.853>it?

860
00:36:01.045 --> 00:36:03.825
<00:36:01.045>If <00:36:01.220>it <00:36:01.395>were <00:36:01.570>to <00:36:01.745>like <00:36:01.920>text <00:36:02.095>to <00:36:02.270>image <00:36:02.445>conversion

861
00:36:03.825 --> 00:36:07.585
<00:36:03.825>or <00:36:03.964>these <00:36:04.105>kind <00:36:04.245>of <00:36:04.384>things, <00:36:04.524>the <00:36:04.665>more <00:36:04.805>harder <00:36:04.944>bits, <00:36:05.085>then, <00:36:05.225>uh,

862
00:36:07.695 --> 00:36:09.865
<00:36:07.695>then <00:36:07.895>it <00:36:08.095>would <00:36:08.295>be <00:36:08.495>more <00:36:08.695>interesting <00:36:08.895>to <00:36:09.095>me.

863
00:36:09.965 --> 00:36:13.625
<00:36:09.965>But, <00:36:10.072>um, <00:36:10.180>the <00:36:10.288>other <00:36:10.395>thing <00:36:10.503>that <00:36:10.611>I <00:36:10.718>had <00:36:10.826>in <00:36:10.934>the <00:36:11.041>past <00:36:11.149>when <00:36:11.257>I <00:36:11.365>tried

864
00:36:13.625 --> 00:36:16.145
<00:36:13.625>to <00:36:13.825>play <00:36:14.025>with <00:36:14.225>that <00:36:14.425>was <00:36:14.625>that <00:36:14.825>a <00:36:15.025>lot

865
00:36:16.145 --> 00:36:19.345
<00:36:16.145>of <00:36:16.345>times <00:36:16.545>the <00:36:16.745>interesting <00:36:16.945>APIs <00:36:17.145>would <00:36:17.345>be <00:36:17.545>outside

866
00:36:19.345 --> 00:36:20.745
<00:36:19.345>of <00:36:19.596>the <00:36:19.848>sandbox <00:36:20.100>of <00:36:20.353>the <00:36:20.605>browser.

867
00:36:20.885 --> 00:36:22.625
<00:36:20.885>So <00:36:21.118>I <00:36:21.351>need <00:36:21.585>to <00:36:21.818>write <00:36:22.051>an <00:36:22.285>extension

868
00:36:22.625 --> 00:36:24.745
<00:36:22.625>to <00:36:22.825>actually <00:36:23.025>use <00:36:23.225>them <00:36:23.425>rather <00:36:23.625>than <00:36:23.825>having <00:36:24.025>them

869
00:36:24.925 --> 00:36:26.865
<00:36:24.925>as <00:36:25.158>just <00:36:25.391>in <00:36:25.625>JavaScript <00:36:25.858>in <00:36:26.091>the <00:36:26.325>browser.

870
00:36:27.485 --> 00:36:30.665
<00:36:27.485>Has <00:36:27.612>that <00:36:27.739>changed <00:36:27.866>or <00:36:27.994>is <00:36:28.121>that <00:36:28.248>still <00:36:28.375>uh, <00:36:28.503>uh, <00:36:28.630>the, <00:36:28.757>the <00:36:28.885>case,

871
00:36:32.175 --> 00:36:34.435
<00:36:32.175>Um, <00:36:32.350>right <00:36:32.525>now, <00:36:32.700>again, <00:36:32.875>if, <00:36:33.050>if <00:36:33.225>you're <00:36:33.400>okay <00:36:33.575>with,

872
00:36:34.435 --> 00:36:38.275
<00:36:34.435>with <00:36:34.634>Chrome <00:36:34.835>only, <00:36:35.035>uh, <00:36:35.235>it's <00:36:35.435>fairly <00:36:35.634>baked <00:36:35.835>in.

873
00:36:38.305 --> 00:36:40.555
<00:36:38.305>There's, <00:36:38.460>you <00:36:38.616>know, <00:36:38.771>not <00:36:38.927>much <00:36:39.082>that <00:36:39.238>you <00:36:39.393>have <00:36:39.549>to <00:36:39.705>do.

874
00:36:40.975 --> 00:36:44.755
<00:36:40.975>Uh, <00:36:41.102>it's, <00:36:41.229>so <00:36:41.356>to <00:36:41.484>your <00:36:41.611>point <00:36:41.738>about <00:36:41.865>the <00:36:41.993>os <00:36:42.120>doing <00:36:42.247>it, <00:36:42.375>one

875
00:36:44.755 --> 00:36:47.395
<00:36:44.755>of <00:36:44.882>the <00:36:45.009>APIs <00:36:45.136>they <00:36:45.264>just <00:36:45.391>released <00:36:45.518>about <00:36:45.645>two <00:36:45.773>months <00:36:45.900>ago <00:36:46.027>is <00:36:46.155>a

876
00:36:47.395 --> 00:36:49.115
<00:36:47.395>proofreading <00:36:47.675>API <00:36:47.955>and <00:36:48.235>it'll <00:36:48.515>do <00:36:48.795>spelling

877
00:36:49.135 --> 00:36:50.435
<00:36:49.135>and <00:36:49.427>grammar <00:36:49.720>on <00:36:50.012>that <00:36:50.305>end.

878
00:36:51.215 --> 00:36:54.235
<00:36:51.215>Um, <00:36:51.390>I <00:36:51.565>presented <00:36:51.740>on <00:36:51.915>this <00:36:52.090>topic <00:36:52.265>two <00:36:52.440>days <00:36:52.615>ago

879
00:36:54.295 --> 00:36:56.635
<00:36:54.295>and <00:36:54.450>I'm <00:36:54.606>like, <00:36:54.761>I <00:36:54.917>don't <00:36:55.072>see <00:36:55.228>a <00:36:55.383>use <00:36:55.539>for <00:36:55.695>this

880
00:36:56.635 --> 00:36:58.395
<00:36:56.635>because <00:36:56.868>the <00:36:57.101>operating <00:36:57.335>system <00:36:57.568>does <00:36:57.801>do <00:36:58.035>that.

881
00:36:58.395 --> 00:37:02.235
<00:36:58.395>Like <00:36:58.570>we're <00:36:58.745>used <00:36:58.920>to <00:36:59.095>simple <00:36:59.270>text <00:36:59.445>areas <00:36:59.620>already <00:36:59.795>highlighting

882
00:37:02.635 --> 00:37:03.915
<00:37:02.635>spelling <00:37:02.865>issues <00:37:03.095>and <00:37:03.326>stuff <00:37:03.556>like <00:37:03.787>that.

883
00:37:04.095 --> 00:37:07.465
<00:37:04.095>So, <00:37:04.294>uh, <00:37:04.495>yes, <00:37:04.694>I'm <00:37:04.895>with <00:37:05.095>you <00:37:05.294>on <00:37:05.495>that.

884
00:37:07.665 --> 00:37:10.625
<00:37:07.665>I <00:37:07.945>do <00:37:08.225>think, <00:37:08.505>uh, <00:37:08.785>having <00:37:09.065>more

885
00:37:10.855 --> 00:37:12.785
<00:37:10.855>control <00:37:11.321>can <00:37:11.788>be <00:37:12.255>useful.

886
00:37:12.925 --> 00:37:16.945
<00:37:12.925>So <00:37:13.041>if <00:37:13.158>I <00:37:13.275>want <00:37:13.391>to <00:37:13.508>do <00:37:13.625>a <00:37:13.741>simple <00:37:13.858>rewriting <00:37:13.975>tool, <00:37:14.091>like <00:37:14.208>I'm <00:37:14.325>trying

887
00:37:16.945 --> 00:37:18.745
<00:37:16.945>to <00:37:17.178>help <00:37:17.411>people <00:37:17.645>who <00:37:17.878>don't <00:37:18.111>write <00:37:18.345>normally

888
00:37:18.745 --> 00:37:20.705
<00:37:18.745>and <00:37:18.900>I <00:37:19.056>wanna <00:37:19.211>give <00:37:19.367>them <00:37:19.522>the <00:37:19.678>option <00:37:19.833>to <00:37:19.989>use <00:37:20.145>AI

889
00:37:20.705 --> 00:37:23.465
<00:37:20.705>to <00:37:20.860>make <00:37:21.016>it <00:37:21.171>more <00:37:21.327>formal <00:37:21.482>or <00:37:21.638>make <00:37:21.793>it <00:37:21.949>shorter <00:37:22.105>longer

890
00:37:23.485 --> 00:37:27.345
<00:37:23.485>or <00:37:23.640>whatever, <00:37:23.796>uh, <00:37:23.951>yes, <00:37:24.107>D <00:37:24.262>os <00:37:24.418>could <00:37:24.573>possibly <00:37:24.729>do <00:37:24.885>that,

891
00:37:27.565 --> 00:37:29.865
<00:37:27.565>but <00:37:27.798>I <00:37:28.031>could <00:37:28.265>see <00:37:28.498>wanting <00:37:28.731>to <00:37:28.965>have

892
00:37:29.865 --> 00:37:33.625
<00:37:29.865>that <00:37:30.040>fine <00:37:30.214>grain <00:37:30.390>control <00:37:30.564>in <00:37:30.740>my <00:37:30.915>particular <00:37:31.089>CMS, <00:37:31.265>uh,

893
00:37:33.845 --> 00:37:37.585
<00:37:33.845>to <00:37:34.000>have <00:37:34.156>control <00:37:34.311>over <00:37:34.467>the <00:37:34.622>experience <00:37:34.778>to <00:37:34.933>do <00:37:35.089>things <00:37:35.245>like,

894
00:37:38.045 --> 00:37:40.625
<00:37:38.045>you <00:37:38.172>know, <00:37:38.299>I'm <00:37:38.426>not, <00:37:38.554>I'm <00:37:38.681>not <00:37:38.808>just <00:37:38.935>gonna <00:37:39.063>blow <00:37:39.190>away <00:37:39.317>your <00:37:39.445>text,

895
00:37:40.805 --> 00:37:43.145
<00:37:40.805>I'm <00:37:40.932>gonna <00:37:41.059>show <00:37:41.186>you <00:37:41.314>to <00:37:41.441>the <00:37:41.568>side, <00:37:41.695>this <00:37:41.823>is <00:37:41.950>what <00:37:42.077>I'm <00:37:42.205>suggesting.

896
00:37:43.405 --> 00:37:45.185
<00:37:43.405>Do <00:37:43.755>you <00:37:44.105>like <00:37:44.455>it? <00:37:44.805>Uh,

897
00:37:45.645 --> 00:37:48.345
<00:37:45.645>and <00:37:45.772>that <00:37:45.899>way <00:37:46.026>they <00:37:46.154>can <00:37:46.281>be <00:37:46.408>user <00:37:46.535>think <00:37:46.663>could <00:37:46.790>have <00:37:46.917>control <00:37:47.045>over

898
00:37:48.345 --> 00:37:49.505
<00:37:48.345>whether <00:37:48.606>that's <00:37:48.866>applied <00:37:49.128>or <00:37:49.389>not.

899
00:37:50.395 --> 00:37:51.605
<00:37:50.395>Yeah. <00:37:50.612>And <00:37:50.830>I <00:37:51.048>think <00:37:51.266>then <00:37:51.484>it

900
00:37:51.605 --> 00:37:53.885
<00:37:51.605>of <00:37:51.780>course <00:37:51.955>becomes <00:37:52.130>the <00:37:52.305>UX <00:37:52.480>of <00:37:52.655>it <00:37:52.830>as <00:37:53.005>well.

901
00:37:53.915 --> 00:37:55.765
<00:37:53.915>Like <00:37:54.195>how <00:37:54.475>do <00:37:54.755>you <00:37:55.035>colorize <00:37:55.315>that?

902
00:37:55.825 --> 00:37:58.085
<00:37:55.825>How <00:37:56.024>do <00:37:56.225>you <00:37:56.424>show <00:37:56.625>that <00:37:56.825>kind <00:37:57.024>of <00:37:57.225>thing?

903
00:37:58.145 --> 00:38:00.365
<00:37:58.145>Uh, <00:37:58.320>that's <00:37:58.495>the, <00:37:58.670>that's <00:37:58.845>an <00:37:59.020>interesting <00:37:59.195>one <00:37:59.370>as <00:37:59.545>well.

904
00:38:00.525 --> 00:38:03.325
<00:38:00.525>'cause <00:38:00.665>I <00:38:00.805>mean, <00:38:00.945>like <00:38:01.085>in, <00:38:01.225>in, <00:38:01.365>uh, <00:38:01.505>in <00:38:01.645>Google <00:38:01.785>in <00:38:01.925>Gmail,

905
00:38:03.435 --> 00:38:06.525
<00:38:03.435>when <00:38:03.590>I <00:38:03.746>start <00:38:03.901>writing <00:38:04.057>something, <00:38:04.212>it <00:38:04.368>now <00:38:04.523>asks <00:38:04.679>me <00:38:04.835>Polish

906
00:38:07.105 --> 00:38:10.165
<00:38:07.105>and <00:38:07.245>then <00:38:07.385>with, <00:38:07.525>with <00:38:07.665>like <00:38:07.805>the, <00:38:07.945>the, <00:38:08.085>uh, <00:38:08.225>the <00:38:08.365>sparkle <00:38:08.505>icon.

907
00:38:10.705 --> 00:38:12.965
<00:38:10.705>And, <00:38:10.880>um, <00:38:11.055>I'm <00:38:11.230>writing <00:38:11.404>in <00:38:11.580>English, <00:38:11.755>not <00:38:11.930>in <00:38:12.105>Polish.

908
00:38:13.065 --> 00:38:14.285
<00:38:13.065>So <00:38:13.284>that <00:38:13.504>doesn't <00:38:13.723>make <00:38:13.943>any <00:38:14.163>sense.

909
00:38:14.305 --> 00:38:16.365
<00:38:14.305>But <00:38:14.504>I, <00:38:14.705>I <00:38:14.904>find <00:38:15.105>it <00:38:15.305>like <00:38:15.504>a <00:38:15.705>lot

910
00:38:16.365 --> 00:38:18.565
<00:38:16.365>of <00:38:16.564>times <00:38:16.765>these <00:38:16.964>helpers <00:38:17.165>can <00:38:17.365>be <00:38:17.564>like <00:38:17.765>super

911
00:38:18.675 --> 00:38:20.205
<00:38:18.675>intrusive <00:38:19.134>rather <00:38:19.593>than <00:38:20.052>helpers.

912
00:38:20.945 --> 00:38:23.085
<00:38:20.945>So <00:38:21.178>that's <00:38:21.411>where <00:38:21.645>it <00:38:21.878>will <00:38:22.111>be <00:38:22.345>interesting

913
00:38:23.085 --> 00:38:26.725
<00:38:23.085>to <00:38:23.225>give <00:38:23.365>people <00:38:23.505>the <00:38:23.645>opportunity <00:38:23.785>to <00:38:23.925>actually <00:38:24.065>do <00:38:24.205>that <00:38:24.345>in <00:38:24.485>a,

914
00:38:26.745 --> 00:38:28.005
<00:38:26.745>on <00:38:26.971>a, <00:38:27.198>on <00:38:27.425>an <00:38:27.652>API <00:38:27.879>level

915
00:38:28.225 --> 00:38:30.725
<00:38:28.225>and <00:38:28.400>come <00:38:28.575>up <00:38:28.750>with <00:38:28.924>better <00:38:29.100>solutions <00:38:29.275>than <00:38:29.450>Google <00:38:29.625>can.

916
00:38:31.155 --> 00:38:33.245
<00:38:31.155>That <00:38:31.355>might <00:38:31.555>be <00:38:31.755>the <00:38:31.955>interesting, <00:38:32.155>uh, <00:38:32.355>part <00:38:32.555>there.

917
00:38:35.885 --> 00:38:38.295
<00:38:35.885>Yeah, <00:38:36.165>it's, <00:38:36.445>I'm, <00:38:36.725>I'm <00:38:37.005>very <00:38:37.285>curious

918
00:38:38.355 --> 00:38:39.695
<00:38:38.355>to <00:38:38.556>see, <00:38:38.757>you <00:38:38.958>know, <00:38:39.159>where <00:38:39.360>it <00:38:39.561>goes.

919
00:38:39.835 --> 00:38:42.535
<00:38:39.835>Uh, <00:38:40.185>generally <00:38:40.535>pro <00:38:40.885>gen <00:38:41.235>ai

920
00:38:42.535 --> 00:38:44.735
<00:38:42.535>and <00:38:42.710>I'm <00:38:42.884>also <00:38:43.060>getting <00:38:43.234>sickened <00:38:43.410>by <00:38:43.585>seeing <00:38:43.759>it <00:38:43.935>everywhere.

921
00:38:44.765 --> 00:38:47.495
<00:38:44.765>Like <00:38:45.045>Notepad <00:38:45.325>has <00:38:45.605>it <00:38:45.884>now. <00:38:46.165>Yeah.

922
00:38:49.605 --> 00:38:52.415
<00:38:49.605>Some, <00:38:49.745>some <00:38:49.885>product <00:38:50.025>manager <00:38:50.165>got <00:38:50.305>told <00:38:50.445>you <00:38:50.585>have <00:38:50.725>to <00:38:50.865>add <00:38:51.005>this,

923
00:38:52.435 --> 00:38:55.255
<00:38:52.435>and <00:38:52.715>so <00:38:52.995>they <00:38:53.275>made <00:38:53.555>it <00:38:53.835>happen.

924
00:38:55.515 --> 00:38:56.775
<00:38:55.515>Uh, <00:38:56.649>yeah.

925
00:38:56.795 --> 00:39:00.975
<00:38:56.795>Uh, <00:38:56.922>I'm, <00:38:57.049>I'm <00:38:57.176>hopeful <00:38:57.304>that <00:38:57.431>this <00:38:57.558>is <00:38:57.685>used <00:38:57.813>in <00:38:57.940>the <00:38:58.067>right <00:38:58.195>way

926
00:39:01.075 --> 00:39:02.335
<00:39:01.075>and <00:39:01.453>we'll, <00:39:01.831>we'll <00:39:02.209>see.

927
00:39:04.135 --> 00:39:06.185
<00:39:04.135>Yeah, <00:39:04.335>it <00:39:04.535>also <00:39:04.735>feels <00:39:04.935>like, <00:39:05.135>uh, <00:39:05.335>I <00:39:05.535>mean,

928
00:39:06.845 --> 00:39:09.825
<00:39:06.845>it <00:39:07.020>rolled <00:39:07.194>out <00:39:07.370>on <00:39:07.544>Mac <00:39:07.720>first <00:39:07.895>then <00:39:08.069>on <00:39:08.245>Windows.

929
00:39:10.325 --> 00:39:11.585
<00:39:10.325>And, <00:39:10.551>uh, <00:39:10.778>that's <00:39:11.005>the <00:39:11.232>other <00:39:11.459>thing.

930
00:39:11.585 --> 00:39:14.345
<00:39:11.585>Like <00:39:11.740>it's <00:39:11.896>uh, <00:39:12.051>uh, <00:39:12.207>it <00:39:12.362>always <00:39:12.518>feels <00:39:12.673>me, <00:39:12.829>it <00:39:12.985>feels

931
00:39:14.345 --> 00:39:18.385
<00:39:14.345>to <00:39:14.484>me <00:39:14.625>like <00:39:14.765>there <00:39:14.904>is <00:39:15.044>a <00:39:15.185>gatekeeping <00:39:15.325>kind <00:39:15.464>of <00:39:15.605>thing, <00:39:15.745>like

932
00:39:18.565 --> 00:39:19.945
<00:39:18.565>who <00:39:18.979>can <00:39:19.393>access <00:39:19.807>that?

933
00:39:19.945 --> 00:39:23.185
<00:39:19.945>Because <00:39:20.085>it's <00:39:20.225>not, <00:39:20.365>there's <00:39:20.505>not <00:39:20.645>no <00:39:20.785>W <00:39:20.925>three <00:39:21.065>C <00:39:21.205>standard <00:39:21.345>there,

934
00:39:23.195 --> 00:39:25.025
<00:39:23.195>there <00:39:23.370>might <00:39:23.545>be <00:39:23.720>some <00:39:23.895>in <00:39:24.070>the <00:39:24.245>making, <00:39:24.420>I <00:39:24.595>think.

935
00:39:25.565 --> 00:39:27.505
<00:39:25.565>But, <00:39:25.845>uh, <00:39:26.125>that's <00:39:26.405>where <00:39:26.685>the <00:39:26.965>competition

936
00:39:27.505 --> 00:39:29.465
<00:39:27.505>between <00:39:27.971>companies <00:39:28.438>comes <00:39:28.905>in

937
00:39:29.525 --> 00:39:33.305
<00:39:29.525>and <00:39:29.725>it's, <00:39:29.925>it's <00:39:30.125>kind <00:39:30.325>of <00:39:30.525>interesting <00:39:30.725>to <00:39:30.925>see.

938
00:39:33.975 --> 00:39:36.985
<00:39:33.975>Yeah. <00:39:34.130>Now, <00:39:34.286>Dan, <00:39:34.441>what <00:39:34.597>do <00:39:34.752>you <00:39:34.908>think, <00:39:35.063>uh, <00:39:35.219>uh, <00:39:35.375>uh,

939
00:39:37.295 --> 00:39:39.625
<00:39:37.295>what <00:39:37.450>shall <00:39:37.606>we <00:39:37.761>do <00:39:37.917>Raymond, <00:39:38.072>take <00:39:38.228>a <00:39:38.383>look <00:39:38.539>at <00:39:38.695>next?

940
00:39:39.855 --> 00:39:41.145
<00:39:39.855>Like, <00:39:40.145>what, <00:39:40.435>what, <00:39:40.725>what <00:39:41.016>is,

941
00:39:41.145 --> 00:39:42.665
<00:39:41.145>what <00:39:41.340>did <00:39:41.535>you <00:39:41.731>wanna <00:39:41.926>do <00:39:42.122>in <00:39:42.317>the <00:39:42.513>browser

942
00:39:42.665 --> 00:39:44.065
<00:39:42.665>with <00:39:42.875>AI <00:39:43.085>that <00:39:43.295>you <00:39:43.505>couldn't <00:39:43.715>do <00:39:43.925>yet?

943
00:39:44.765 --> 00:39:45.785
<00:39:44.765>Oh, <00:39:45.071>oh, <00:39:45.377>that's <00:39:45.683>a,

944
00:39:45.785 --> 00:39:47.745
<00:39:45.785>that's <00:39:45.924>a <00:39:46.065>difficult <00:39:46.205>one <00:39:46.345>actually <00:39:46.484>on <00:39:46.625>the <00:39:46.765>spot, <00:39:46.904>I'm <00:39:47.045>not <00:39:47.185>sure.

945
00:39:48.105 --> 00:39:51.025
<00:39:48.105>'cause <00:39:48.260>I, <00:39:48.416>I, <00:39:48.571>I <00:39:48.727>definitely <00:39:48.882>find <00:39:49.038>that <00:39:49.193>when <00:39:49.349>you <00:39:49.505>said

946
00:39:51.025 --> 00:39:52.025
<00:39:51.025>that <00:39:51.205>Raymond, <00:39:51.385>then <00:39:51.565>that <00:39:51.745>you've <00:39:51.925>got

947
00:39:52.025 --> 00:39:53.025
<00:39:52.025>this <00:39:52.175>sort <00:39:52.325>of <00:39:52.475>love <00:39:52.625>hate <00:39:52.775>with <00:39:52.925>it.

948
00:39:53.125 --> 00:39:55.385
<00:39:53.125>Um, <00:39:53.300>where, <00:39:53.475>where <00:39:53.650>I <00:39:53.825>find <00:39:54.000>the <00:39:54.175>same, <00:39:54.350>where <00:39:54.525>I,

949
00:39:55.465 --> 00:39:58.665
<00:39:55.465>I <00:39:55.592>instantly <00:39:55.719>get <00:39:55.846>something <00:39:55.974>like <00:39:56.101>an <00:39:56.228>AI <00:39:56.355>summary <00:39:56.483>I <00:39:56.610>find <00:39:56.737>is, <00:39:56.865>uh,

950
00:39:58.735 --> 00:40:01.225
<00:39:58.735>immediately <00:39:58.968>useful <00:39:59.201>because <00:39:59.435>you've <00:39:59.668>got <00:39:59.901>some <00:40:00.135>information,

951
00:40:01.225 --> 00:40:02.545
<00:40:01.225>but <00:40:01.522>it's <00:40:01.819>just <00:40:02.116>some <00:40:02.413>information

952
00:40:02.645 --> 00:40:04.745
<00:40:02.645>and <00:40:02.772>it's, <00:40:02.899>um, <00:40:03.026>you <00:40:03.154>know, <00:40:03.281>when <00:40:03.408>someone <00:40:03.535>goes, <00:40:03.663>oh, <00:40:03.790>is <00:40:03.917>that <00:40:04.045>true?

953
00:40:04.765 --> 00:40:06.025
<00:40:04.765>And <00:40:04.926>you <00:40:05.089>Google <00:40:05.250>it <00:40:05.413>and <00:40:05.575>then <00:40:05.737>you <00:40:05.899>think,

954
00:40:06.325 --> 00:40:08.945
<00:40:06.325>I'm <00:40:06.464>not <00:40:06.605>sure <00:40:06.745>if <00:40:06.884>actually <00:40:07.024>it's <00:40:07.165>giving <00:40:07.305>me <00:40:07.444>a <00:40:07.585>confirmed <00:40:07.725>response

955
00:40:08.945 --> 00:40:10.585
<00:40:08.945>because <00:40:09.120>of <00:40:09.295>the <00:40:09.470>way <00:40:09.645>I've <00:40:09.820>questioned, <00:40:09.995>you <00:40:10.170>know, <00:40:10.345>the,

956
00:40:10.645 --> 00:40:11.665
<00:40:10.645>the <00:40:10.828>way <00:40:11.012>I've <00:40:11.195>posed <00:40:11.379>the <00:40:11.563>question.

957
00:40:12.085 --> 00:40:13.665
<00:40:12.085>So <00:40:12.260>you <00:40:12.435>then <00:40:12.610>find <00:40:12.785>that <00:40:12.960>you <00:40:13.135>end <00:40:13.310>up <00:40:13.485>going

958
00:40:13.725 --> 00:40:15.065
<00:40:13.725>deeper <00:40:14.127>to <00:40:14.529>the <00:40:14.931>sources.

959
00:40:15.565 --> 00:40:17.905
<00:40:15.565>And <00:40:15.692>that's <00:40:15.819>always <00:40:15.946>the <00:40:16.074>next <00:40:16.201>step <00:40:16.328>that <00:40:16.455>for <00:40:16.583>me, <00:40:16.710>where <00:40:16.837>I <00:40:16.965>say,

960
00:40:18.245 --> 00:40:19.345
<00:40:18.245>why <00:40:18.492>are <00:40:18.740>they <00:40:18.987>hiding <00:40:19.234>sources

961
00:40:19.485 --> 00:40:22.145
<00:40:19.485>or <00:40:19.660>even <00:40:19.835>making <00:40:20.010>them <00:40:20.185>tiny <00:40:20.360>little <00:40:20.535>footnotes, <00:40:20.710>you <00:40:20.885>know,

962
00:40:22.175 --> 00:40:23.185
<00:40:22.175>sometimes <00:40:22.629>you're <00:40:23.084>not

963
00:40:23.185 --> 00:40:24.425
<00:40:23.185>like <00:40:23.408>on <00:40:23.631>Wikipedia <00:40:23.854>where <00:40:24.077>they're <00:40:24.301>numbers.

964
00:40:24.735 --> 00:40:27.545
<00:40:24.735>I've <00:40:24.890>seen <00:40:25.046>them <00:40:25.201>like <00:40:25.357>that <00:40:25.512>in <00:40:25.668>summaries <00:40:25.823>where <00:40:25.979>I've <00:40:26.135>thought,

965
00:40:27.645 --> 00:40:28.745
<00:40:27.645>why <00:40:27.892>is <00:40:28.140>this <00:40:28.387>not <00:40:28.634>upfront?

966
00:40:29.055 --> 00:40:30.465
<00:40:29.055>Tell <00:40:29.266>me <00:40:29.478>where, <00:40:29.689>what <00:40:29.901>this <00:40:30.112>source <00:40:30.324>is.

967
00:40:30.605 --> 00:40:33.705
<00:40:30.605>So <00:40:30.732>I <00:40:30.859>think <00:40:30.986>there's <00:40:31.114>still <00:40:31.241>some <00:40:31.368>way <00:40:31.495>to <00:40:31.623>go <00:40:31.750>towards <00:40:31.877>like <00:40:32.005>trying

968
00:40:33.705 --> 00:40:35.665
<00:40:33.705>to <00:40:33.880>make <00:40:34.055>a <00:40:34.230>nice <00:40:34.404>summary <00:40:34.580>that <00:40:34.755>people <00:40:34.930>can <00:40:35.105>read

969
00:40:35.665 --> 00:40:38.705
<00:40:35.665>to <00:40:35.820>get <00:40:35.976>a <00:40:36.131>response, <00:40:36.287>but <00:40:36.442>then <00:40:36.598>actually <00:40:36.753>making <00:40:36.909>that <00:40:37.065>response

970
00:40:39.265 --> 00:40:41.065
<00:40:39.265>verifiable <00:40:39.464>would <00:40:39.665>be <00:40:39.865>the <00:40:40.065>thing <00:40:40.265>I <00:40:40.464>would <00:40:40.665>like

971
00:40:41.085 --> 00:40:42.585
<00:40:41.085>and <00:40:41.310>just <00:40:41.535>upfront <00:40:41.760>with <00:40:41.985>all <00:40:42.210>of <00:40:42.435>that.

972
00:40:43.125 --> 00:40:45.185
<00:40:43.125>Um, <00:40:43.265>so <00:40:43.405>I <00:40:43.545>dunno <00:40:43.685>exactly <00:40:43.825>what <00:40:43.965>that <00:40:44.105>tool <00:40:44.245>would <00:40:44.385>look <00:40:44.525>like,

973
00:40:45.365 --> 00:40:46.465
<00:40:45.365>but <00:40:45.612>it's <00:40:45.860>not <00:40:46.107>quite <00:40:46.355>there.

974
00:40:46.825 --> 00:40:48.385
<00:40:46.825>I <00:40:47.024>mean, <00:40:47.225>it's <00:40:47.424>going <00:40:47.625>in <00:40:47.825>the <00:40:48.024>other <00:40:48.225>direction.

975
00:40:48.465 --> 00:40:51.625
<00:40:48.465>I <00:40:48.605>remember, <00:40:48.745>I, <00:40:48.885>I <00:40:49.025>love <00:40:49.165>meta <00:40:49.305>when <00:40:49.445>basically <00:40:49.585>you're <00:40:49.725>on <00:40:49.865>Facebook

976
00:40:51.645 --> 00:40:53.185
<00:40:51.645>and <00:40:51.876>you <00:40:52.107>have <00:40:52.337>this <00:40:52.569>like <00:40:52.800>meta <00:40:53.031>button

977
00:40:53.215 --> 00:40:56.865
<00:40:53.215>that <00:40:53.370>actually <00:40:53.526>takes <00:40:53.681>the <00:40:53.837>post <00:40:53.992>that <00:40:54.148>somebody <00:40:54.303>made <00:40:54.459>on <00:40:54.615>Facebook

978
00:40:56.885 --> 00:40:59.385
<00:40:56.885>and <00:40:57.060>then <00:40:57.235>has <00:40:57.410>a <00:40:57.585>question <00:40:57.760>as <00:40:57.935>a <00:40:58.110>button <00:40:58.285>to,

979
00:41:00.245 --> 00:41:02.545
<00:41:00.245>to <00:41:00.420>actually <00:41:00.595>force <00:41:00.770>you <00:41:00.944>and <00:41:01.120>interacting <00:41:01.295>with <00:41:01.470>their <00:41:01.645>bot.

980
00:41:03.165 --> 00:41:05.825
<00:41:03.165>And <00:41:03.292>the <00:41:03.419>other <00:41:03.546>day <00:41:03.674>I <00:41:03.801>saw <00:41:03.928>like <00:41:04.055>a <00:41:04.183>fun <00:41:04.310>one <00:41:04.437>that <00:41:04.565>basically

981
00:41:05.825 --> 00:41:08.705
<00:41:05.825>where <00:41:06.000>somebody <00:41:06.174>used <00:41:06.350>a, <00:41:06.524>a <00:41:06.700>Scottish <00:41:06.875>haggish, <00:41:07.049>like <00:41:07.225>made,

982
00:41:08.705 --> 00:41:10.665
<00:41:08.705>like <00:41:08.938>made <00:41:09.171>up <00:41:09.404>animals <00:41:09.638>that <00:41:09.871>don't <00:41:10.105>exist

983
00:41:11.205 --> 00:41:13.785
<00:41:11.205>and <00:41:11.380>like <00:41:11.555>basically <00:41:11.730>said <00:41:11.904>like, <00:41:12.080>oh, <00:41:12.255>the <00:41:12.430>tourists <00:41:12.605>are,

984
00:41:13.785 --> 00:41:15.145
<00:41:13.785>are <00:41:14.091>scaring <00:41:14.397>the <00:41:14.703>haage <00:41:15.009>again.

985
00:41:15.145 --> 00:41:17.825
<00:41:15.145>And <00:41:15.300>these <00:41:15.456>kind <00:41:15.611>of <00:41:15.767>things. <00:41:15.922>And <00:41:16.078>the <00:41:16.233>first <00:41:16.389>five <00:41:16.545>questions

986
00:41:17.825 --> 00:41:19.625
<00:41:17.825>that <00:41:18.024>meta <00:41:18.225>asked <00:41:18.424>you <00:41:18.625>to <00:41:18.825>interact <00:41:19.024>with, <00:41:19.225>like,

987
00:41:19.805 --> 00:41:21.105
<00:41:19.805>how <00:41:20.038>old <00:41:20.272>does <00:41:20.507>a <00:41:20.741>haggis <00:41:20.975>get?

988
00:41:21.105 --> 00:41:23.465
<00:41:21.105>Like <00:41:21.245>where <00:41:21.385>do, <00:41:21.525>where <00:41:21.665>are <00:41:21.805>the <00:41:21.945>most <00:41:22.085>of <00:41:22.225>the <00:41:22.365>wild <00:41:22.505>haage?

989
00:41:23.785 --> 00:41:26.545
<00:41:23.785>You <00:41:23.984>know, <00:41:24.185>there's, <00:41:24.384>there's <00:41:24.585>no <00:41:24.785>validation <00:41:24.984>of <00:41:25.185>it.

990
00:41:26.575 --> 00:41:29.865
<00:41:26.575>There's <00:41:26.714>no <00:41:26.855>like, <00:41:26.995>uh, <00:41:27.134>uh, <00:41:27.274>instead <00:41:27.415>it's <00:41:27.555>just <00:41:27.694>like, <00:41:27.835>oh, <00:41:27.975>let's,

991
00:41:29.865 --> 00:41:31.185
<00:41:29.865>let's <00:41:30.162>just <00:41:30.459>make <00:41:30.756>people <00:41:31.053>interact

992
00:41:31.565 --> 00:41:32.985
<00:41:31.565>and <00:41:31.820>click <00:41:32.076>things <00:41:32.331>and <00:41:32.587>buy <00:41:32.843>things.

993
00:41:33.225 --> 00:41:35.605
<00:41:33.225>And, <00:41:33.424>uh, <00:41:33.625>I <00:41:33.825>think <00:41:34.025>that's <00:41:34.225>where <00:41:34.424>the, <00:41:34.625>that's

994
00:41:35.605 --> 00:41:38.465
<00:41:35.605>where <00:41:35.838>it <00:41:36.071>gets <00:41:36.305>worrying <00:41:36.538>to <00:41:36.771>me <00:41:37.005>now.

995
00:41:38.525 --> 00:41:40.545
<00:41:38.525>Uh, <00:41:38.875>the, <00:41:39.225>uh, <00:41:39.575>the <00:41:39.925>CLI

996
00:41:40.685 --> 00:41:44.465
<00:41:40.685>of <00:41:40.840>Gemini <00:41:40.996>is <00:41:41.151>actually <00:41:41.307>an <00:41:41.462>interesting <00:41:41.618>API <00:41:41.773>offering <00:41:41.929>by <00:41:42.085>micro,

997
00:41:44.565 --> 00:41:45.625
<00:41:44.565>uh, <00:41:44.803>by <00:41:45.042>Google <00:41:45.280>as <00:41:45.519>well.

998
00:41:46.285 --> 00:41:50.065
<00:41:46.285>And <00:41:46.401>they <00:41:46.518>now <00:41:46.634>made <00:41:46.751>it <00:41:46.868>more, <00:41:46.984>uh, <00:41:47.101>uh, <00:41:47.218>gave <00:41:47.335>it <00:41:47.451>even <00:41:47.568>more <00:41:47.685>powers

999
00:41:50.065 --> 00:41:52.985
<00:41:50.065>that <00:41:50.265>cause <00:41:50.465>it <00:41:50.665>can <00:41:50.865>actually, <00:41:51.065>uh, <00:41:51.265>run <00:41:51.465>tools

1000
00:41:53.085 --> 00:41:54.465
<00:41:53.085>for <00:41:53.292>you <00:41:53.499>and <00:41:53.706>these <00:41:53.913>kind <00:41:54.120>of <00:41:54.327>things.

1001
00:41:54.935 --> 00:41:56.705
<00:41:54.935>Have <00:41:55.134>you <00:41:55.335>looked <00:41:55.535>into <00:41:55.735>that <00:41:55.935>one <00:41:56.134>as <00:41:56.335>well?

1002
00:41:56.725 --> 00:41:59.225
<00:41:56.725>Or <00:41:56.880>did <00:41:57.036>you <00:41:57.191>concentrate <00:41:57.347>mostly <00:41:57.502>on <00:41:57.658>the <00:41:57.813>browser <00:41:57.969>stuff? <00:41:58.125>Raymond?

1003
00:42:00.285 --> 00:42:03.105
<00:42:00.285>Uh, <00:42:00.460>I, <00:42:00.634>I <00:42:00.810>started <00:42:00.984>my, <00:42:01.160>my <00:42:01.335>gen <00:42:01.509>AI <00:42:01.685>exploration

1004
00:42:03.255 --> 00:42:04.745
<00:42:03.255>with <00:42:03.702>the <00:42:04.149>Gemini <00:42:04.596>API.

1005
00:42:04.805 --> 00:42:06.585
<00:42:04.805>So <00:42:05.004>it <00:42:05.205>was <00:42:05.404>all <00:42:05.605>server <00:42:05.805>side <00:42:06.004>type <00:42:06.205>stuff.

1006
00:42:07.205 --> 00:42:10.945
<00:42:07.205>Uh, <00:42:07.404>I've <00:42:07.605>used <00:42:07.805>the <00:42:08.005>CLIA <00:42:08.205>tiny, <00:42:08.404>tiny <00:42:08.605>bit.

1007
00:42:11.125 --> 00:42:13.705
<00:42:11.125>Uh, <00:42:11.358>my <00:42:11.591>usage <00:42:11.825>is <00:42:12.058>either <00:42:12.291>in <00:42:12.525>browser

1008
00:42:14.005 --> 00:42:17.425
<00:42:14.005>or <00:42:14.205>doing <00:42:14.405>Python <00:42:14.605>calls <00:42:14.805>to <00:42:15.005>their <00:42:15.205>API <00:42:15.405>typically.

1009
00:42:18.155 --> 00:42:19.735
<00:42:18.155>Mm-hmm. <00:42:19.555>Okay.

1010
00:42:19.835 --> 00:42:21.135
<00:42:19.835>But <00:42:20.069>yeah, <00:42:20.303>it's, <00:42:20.537>uh, <00:42:20.771>I <00:42:21.005>mean,

1011
00:42:21.135 --> 00:42:23.335
<00:42:21.135>people <00:42:21.368>have <00:42:21.601>been <00:42:21.835>raving <00:42:22.068>about <00:42:22.301>the <00:42:22.535>GCLI

1012
00:42:23.335 --> 00:42:24.775
<00:42:23.335>because <00:42:23.551>it <00:42:23.767>gave <00:42:23.983>you <00:42:24.199>access <00:42:24.415>to <00:42:24.631>things

1013
00:42:24.775 --> 00:42:26.215
<00:42:24.775>that <00:42:24.991>normally <00:42:25.207>you <00:42:25.423>pay <00:42:25.639>a <00:42:25.855>lot <00:42:26.071>for.

1014
00:42:26.595 --> 00:42:28.535
<00:42:26.595>Mm-hmm. <00:42:26.875>Like, <00:42:27.154>uh, <00:42:27.435>as <00:42:27.714>a <00:42:27.995>developer,

1015
00:42:28.535 --> 00:42:30.295
<00:42:28.535>you <00:42:28.710>actually <00:42:28.884>got <00:42:29.060>access <00:42:29.234>to <00:42:29.410>that <00:42:29.585>kind <00:42:29.759>of <00:42:29.935>stuff.

1016
00:42:30.415 --> 00:42:32.055
<00:42:30.415>I <00:42:30.648>haven't <00:42:30.881>used <00:42:31.115>it <00:42:31.348>much <00:42:31.581>myself <00:42:31.815>yet.

1017
00:42:32.265 --> 00:42:34.055
<00:42:32.265>Maybe <00:42:32.464>we <00:42:32.665>should <00:42:32.865>get <00:42:33.065>some <00:42:33.265>other <00:42:33.464>people <00:42:33.665>in.

1018
00:42:34.055 --> 00:42:37.215
<00:42:34.055>Like <00:42:34.210>Tom, <00:42:34.366>for <00:42:34.521>example, <00:42:34.677>uh, <00:42:34.832>Thomas <00:42:34.988>Steiner, <00:42:35.143>he <00:42:35.299>was <00:42:35.455>here

1019
00:42:37.215 --> 00:42:39.775
<00:42:37.215>before <00:42:37.370>and, <00:42:37.526>uh, <00:42:37.681>he <00:42:37.837>spoke <00:42:37.992>a <00:42:38.148>few <00:42:38.303>times <00:42:38.459>as <00:42:38.615>well.

1020
00:42:40.235 --> 00:42:43.055
<00:42:40.235>And <00:42:40.390>he <00:42:40.546>just <00:42:40.701>wrote <00:42:40.857>this <00:42:41.012>interesting <00:42:41.168>post <00:42:41.323>about <00:42:41.479>the, <00:42:41.635>uh,

1021
00:42:43.055 --> 00:42:45.575
<00:42:43.055>about <00:42:43.288>the <00:42:43.521>in <00:42:43.754>model <00:42:43.988>management <00:42:44.221>in <00:42:44.455>Chrome.

1022
00:42:46.975 --> 00:42:48.815
<00:42:46.975>'cause <00:42:47.208>have <00:42:47.441>you <00:42:47.674>encountered <00:42:47.908>that <00:42:48.141>as <00:42:48.375>well?

1023
00:42:48.815 --> 00:42:50.775
<00:42:48.815>That <00:42:48.990>actually <00:42:49.165>takes <00:42:49.340>off <00:42:49.515>a <00:42:49.690>lot <00:42:49.865>of <00:42:50.040>your <00:42:50.215>machine

1024
00:42:50.915 --> 00:42:53.615
<00:42:50.915>or <00:42:51.070>that <00:42:51.226>you, <00:42:51.381>that <00:42:51.537>you <00:42:51.692>have <00:42:51.848>granular <00:42:52.003>access <00:42:52.159>to <00:42:52.315>it?

1025
00:42:53.645 --> 00:42:55.495
<00:42:53.645>Like <00:42:53.845>how <00:42:54.045>much <00:42:54.245>do, <00:42:54.445>how <00:42:54.645>do <00:42:54.845>I <00:42:55.045>know

1026
00:42:55.495 --> 00:42:57.735
<00:42:55.495>how <00:42:55.694>much <00:42:55.895>Google <00:42:56.095>is <00:42:56.295>actually <00:42:56.495>using <00:42:56.694>my <00:42:56.895>machine

1027
00:42:57.735 --> 00:43:00.135
<00:42:57.735>for <00:42:57.935>their <00:42:58.135>own <00:42:58.335>AI <00:42:58.535>stuff <00:42:58.735>in <00:42:58.935>Chrome? <00:42:59.135>Yes.

1028
00:43:00.275 --> 00:43:02.695
<00:43:00.275>Uh, <00:43:00.391>as <00:43:00.508>far <00:43:00.625>as <00:43:00.741>I <00:43:00.858>know, <00:43:00.975>you <00:43:01.091>don't <00:43:01.208>get <00:43:01.325>direct <00:43:01.441>access <00:43:01.558>to <00:43:01.675>it

1029
00:43:02.695 --> 00:43:07.175
<00:43:02.695>unless <00:43:02.835>you <00:43:02.975>on <00:43:03.115>your <00:43:03.255>own <00:43:03.395>machine <00:43:03.535>go <00:43:03.675>into <00:43:03.815>your <00:43:03.955>folders <00:43:04.095>and,

1030
00:43:07.175 --> 00:43:08.455
<00:43:07.175>and <00:43:07.463>track <00:43:07.751>down <00:43:08.039>the <00:43:08.327>model.

1031
00:43:09.075 --> 00:43:11.655
<00:43:09.075>Uh, <00:43:09.424>when <00:43:09.774>you <00:43:10.125>do <00:43:10.475>anything

1032
00:43:11.655 --> 00:43:13.455
<00:43:11.655>with <00:43:11.810>the <00:43:11.966>AI <00:43:12.121>stuff, <00:43:12.277>like, <00:43:12.432>I'm <00:43:12.588>gonna <00:43:12.743>do <00:43:12.899>a <00:43:13.055>summary.

1033
00:43:14.075 --> 00:43:17.095
<00:43:14.075>Uh, <00:43:14.230>the <00:43:14.386>first <00:43:14.541>time <00:43:14.697>that <00:43:14.852>runs, <00:43:15.008>it's <00:43:15.163>going <00:43:15.319>to <00:43:15.475>download

1034
00:43:17.735 --> 00:43:19.295
<00:43:17.735>I <00:43:18.085>think <00:43:18.435>10, <00:43:18.785>15 <00:43:19.135>gigs.

1035
00:43:19.365 --> 00:43:21.575
<00:43:19.365>Like, <00:43:19.714>it's, <00:43:20.064>it's <00:43:20.415>small, <00:43:20.765>uh,

1036
00:43:21.675 --> 00:43:23.295
<00:43:21.675>but <00:43:22.025>it's <00:43:22.375>definitely <00:43:22.725>not <00:43:23.075>insignificant.

1037
00:43:23.955 --> 00:43:27.695
<00:43:23.955>And <00:43:24.095>they <00:43:24.235>give <00:43:24.375>you <00:43:24.515>an <00:43:24.654>API <00:43:24.795>to <00:43:24.935>like <00:43:25.075>know <00:43:25.215>it's <00:43:25.355>downloading.

1038
00:43:27.715 --> 00:43:29.375
<00:43:27.715>So <00:43:27.915>you <00:43:28.115>can <00:43:28.315>do <00:43:28.515>the <00:43:28.715>right <00:43:28.915>UX <00:43:29.115>thing

1039
00:43:29.375 --> 00:43:32.295
<00:43:29.375>and <00:43:29.515>say, <00:43:29.655>Hey, <00:43:29.795>this <00:43:29.935>is <00:43:30.075>our <00:43:30.215>first <00:43:30.355>time <00:43:30.495>doing <00:43:30.635>the <00:43:30.775>summary.

1040
00:43:32.305 --> 00:43:33.535
<00:43:32.305>It'll <00:43:32.463>take <00:43:32.621>me <00:43:32.779>a <00:43:32.937>little <00:43:33.095>bit <00:43:33.253>to <00:43:33.412>load.

1041
00:43:33.535 --> 00:43:34.615
<00:43:33.535>I'll <00:43:33.696>let <00:43:33.859>you <00:43:34.020>know <00:43:34.183>when <00:43:34.345>it's <00:43:34.506>done.

1042
00:43:34.955 --> 00:43:38.535
<00:43:34.955>And <00:43:35.095>in <00:43:35.235>theory, <00:43:35.375>once <00:43:35.515>like <00:43:35.654>site <00:43:35.795>A <00:43:35.935>does <00:43:36.075>that, <00:43:36.215>site <00:43:36.355>B,

1043
00:43:38.535 --> 00:43:40.695
<00:43:38.535>if <00:43:38.662>it's <00:43:38.789>using <00:43:38.916>the <00:43:39.044>same <00:43:39.171>API <00:43:39.298>won't <00:43:39.425>have <00:43:39.553>to <00:43:39.680>worry <00:43:39.807>about <00:43:39.935>it.

1044
00:43:41.355 --> 00:43:45.975
<00:43:41.355>Uh, <00:43:41.471>but <00:43:41.588>the <00:43:41.705>casual <00:43:41.821>end <00:43:41.938>user <00:43:42.055>will <00:43:42.171>not <00:43:42.288>be <00:43:42.405>able <00:43:42.521>to <00:43:42.638>go <00:43:42.755>in

1045
00:43:45.975 --> 00:43:48.295
<00:43:45.975>and <00:43:46.174>find <00:43:46.375>their <00:43:46.575>models, <00:43:46.775>uh, <00:43:46.975>stuff <00:43:47.174>like <00:43:47.375>that.

1046
00:43:48.805 --> 00:43:51.015
<00:43:48.805>They <00:43:49.085>do <00:43:49.365>do, <00:43:49.645>uh, <00:43:49.924>automatic <00:43:50.205>cleanup.

1047
00:43:51.235 --> 00:43:55.015
<00:43:51.235>So <00:43:51.362>if, <00:43:51.489>again, <00:43:51.616>the <00:43:51.744>casual <00:43:51.871>user, <00:43:51.998>if <00:43:52.125>they <00:43:52.253>filled <00:43:52.380>up <00:43:52.507>their <00:43:52.635>phone

1048
00:43:55.075 --> 00:43:56.895
<00:43:55.075>or <00:43:55.308>whatever <00:43:55.541>with <00:43:55.774>lots <00:43:56.008>of <00:43:56.241>cat <00:43:56.475>pictures,

1049
00:43:57.205 --> 00:43:59.135
<00:43:57.205>they <00:43:57.485>will <00:43:57.765>remove <00:43:58.045>the <00:43:58.325>model, <00:43:58.605>uh,

1050
00:43:59.135 --> 00:44:00.535
<00:43:59.135>if <00:43:59.345>it's <00:43:59.555>taken <00:43:59.765>up <00:43:59.975>too <00:44:00.185>much <00:44:00.395>space.

1051
00:44:00.555 --> 00:44:01.575
<00:44:00.555>So <00:44:00.861>that, <00:44:01.167>that's <00:44:01.473>nice.

1052
00:44:01.915 --> 00:44:05.455
<00:44:01.915>But <00:44:02.055>as <00:44:02.195>a <00:44:02.335>developer, <00:44:02.475>we <00:44:02.615>don't <00:44:02.755>really <00:44:02.895>have <00:44:03.035>the <00:44:03.175>way, <00:44:03.315>uh,

1053
00:44:05.455 --> 00:44:07.535
<00:44:05.455>any <00:44:05.688>like, <00:44:05.921>direct <00:44:06.154>way <00:44:06.388>of <00:44:06.621>managing <00:44:06.855>that.

1054
00:44:08.465 --> 00:44:09.685
<00:44:08.465>That's <00:44:08.739>a <00:44:09.014>problem, <00:44:09.288>isn't <00:44:09.563>it?

1055
00:44:09.765 --> 00:44:11.325
<00:44:09.765>I <00:44:09.998>mean, <00:44:10.231>we <00:44:10.464>can <00:44:10.698>build <00:44:10.931>this <00:44:11.165>stuff

1056
00:44:11.385 --> 00:44:13.565
<00:44:11.385>and <00:44:11.540>then <00:44:11.696>when <00:44:11.851>we <00:44:12.007>download <00:44:12.162>it <00:44:12.318>on <00:44:12.473>our <00:44:12.629>MO <00:44:12.785>machine,

1057
00:44:13.565 --> 00:44:14.605
<00:44:13.565>it <00:44:13.799>works <00:44:14.033>on <00:44:14.267>my <00:44:14.501>machine,

1058
00:44:14.665 --> 00:44:15.805
<00:44:14.665>but <00:44:15.178>the <00:44:15.691>most

1059
00:44:15.805 --> 00:44:18.165
<00:44:15.805>of <00:44:15.980>the <00:44:16.154>end <00:44:16.330>users <00:44:16.504>will <00:44:16.680>not <00:44:16.855>actually <00:44:17.029>download <00:44:17.205>that.

1060
00:44:18.185 --> 00:44:20.285
<00:44:18.185>So <00:44:18.360>you <00:44:18.535>can <00:44:18.710>only <00:44:18.884>only <00:44:19.060>rely <00:44:19.235>on <00:44:19.410>the <00:44:19.585>things

1061
00:44:20.405 --> 00:44:21.445
<00:44:20.405>that <00:44:20.639>come <00:44:20.873>with <00:44:21.107>the <00:44:21.341>browser.

1062
00:44:22.145 --> 00:44:23.165
<00:44:22.145>And <00:44:22.374>I <00:44:22.604>think <00:44:22.833>what <00:44:23.063>comes

1063
00:44:23.165 --> 00:44:24.885
<00:44:23.165>with <00:44:23.340>the <00:44:23.515>browser <00:44:23.690>is <00:44:23.865>not <00:44:24.040>that <00:44:24.215>much, <00:44:24.390>is <00:44:24.565>it?

1064
00:44:25.515 --> 00:44:28.605
<00:44:25.515>Well, <00:44:25.748>so <00:44:25.981>my <00:44:26.214>code <00:44:26.448>can <00:44:26.681>still <00:44:26.915>prompt

1065
00:44:28.605 --> 00:44:30.205
<00:44:28.605>that <00:44:28.955>download <00:44:29.305>on <00:44:29.655>your <00:44:30.005>device.

1066
00:44:30.665 --> 00:44:33.605
<00:44:30.665>So <00:44:30.805>as <00:44:30.945>a <00:44:31.085>casual <00:44:31.225>user, <00:44:31.365>you <00:44:31.505>don't <00:44:31.645>have <00:44:31.785>to <00:44:31.925>like, <00:44:32.065>uh,

1067
00:44:33.705 --> 00:44:35.085
<00:44:33.705>add <00:44:34.015>an <00:44:34.326>extension <00:44:34.636>or <00:44:34.947>anything.

1068
00:44:35.395 --> 00:44:36.965
<00:44:35.395>It's <00:44:35.675>just <00:44:35.955>one <00:44:36.235>more <00:44:36.515>JavaScript <00:44:36.795>library

1069
00:44:37.065 --> 00:44:39.165
<00:44:37.065>or <00:44:37.345>one <00:44:37.625>more <00:44:37.905>webpage <00:44:38.185>doing <00:44:38.465>stuff.

1070
00:44:39.785 --> 00:44:41.965
<00:44:39.785>So <00:44:40.134>casual <00:44:40.484>people <00:44:40.835>don't <00:44:41.185>need

1071
00:44:41.965 --> 00:44:44.365
<00:44:41.965>to <00:44:42.140>have <00:44:42.315>any <00:44:42.490>tech <00:44:42.665>technical <00:44:42.840>knowledge <00:44:43.015>to <00:44:43.190>manage <00:44:43.365>this.

1072
00:44:44.825 --> 00:44:46.725
<00:44:44.825>My <00:44:45.105>code <00:44:45.384>can <00:44:45.665>do <00:44:45.944>that. <00:44:46.225>Uh,

1073
00:44:46.865 --> 00:44:50.965
<00:44:46.865>but <00:44:47.004>if <00:44:47.145>they <00:44:47.285>were <00:44:47.424>concerned <00:44:47.564>about <00:44:47.705>how <00:44:47.845>much <00:44:47.984>space <00:44:48.125>was <00:44:48.265>there,

1074
00:44:51.355 --> 00:44:53.885
<00:44:51.355>it's <00:44:51.471>not <00:44:51.588>gonna <00:44:51.705>be <00:44:51.821>easy <00:44:51.938>for <00:44:52.055>a <00:44:52.171>casual <00:44:52.288>person <00:44:52.405>to <00:44:52.521>find <00:44:52.638>that <00:44:52.755>out.

1075
00:44:54.755 --> 00:44:56.765
<00:44:54.755>Yeah. <00:44:54.955>But <00:44:55.155>I <00:44:55.355>mean, <00:44:55.555>you <00:44:55.755>say, <00:44:55.955>okay, <00:44:56.155>my,

1076
00:44:56.785 --> 00:44:58.085
<00:44:56.785>my <00:44:57.077>JavaScript <00:44:57.370>can <00:44:57.662>do <00:44:57.955>that.

1077
00:44:58.145 --> 00:45:00.205
<00:44:58.145>But <00:44:58.378>if <00:44:58.611>it's <00:44:58.845>a <00:44:59.078>10 <00:44:59.311>gig <00:44:59.545>download

1078
00:45:00.225 --> 00:45:01.885
<00:45:00.225>or <00:45:00.505>a <00:45:00.785>one <00:45:01.065>gig <00:45:01.345>download, <00:45:01.625>like

1079
00:45:02.305 --> 00:45:03.845
<00:45:02.305>how <00:45:02.502>does <00:45:02.701>the <00:45:02.899>end <00:45:03.096>user <00:45:03.294>know <00:45:03.493>about <00:45:03.691>it

1080
00:45:03.945 --> 00:45:07.005
<00:45:03.945>or <00:45:04.120>why <00:45:04.295>it's, <00:45:04.470>why <00:45:04.645>is <00:45:04.820>my <00:45:04.995>machine <00:45:05.170>dying? <00:45:05.345>Yeah.

1081
00:45:07.025 --> 00:45:09.525
<00:45:07.025>Uh, <00:45:07.200>unless <00:45:07.375>you <00:45:07.550>tell <00:45:07.725>them, <00:45:07.900>they, <00:45:08.075>they <00:45:08.250>won't <00:45:08.425>know.

1082
00:45:09.945 --> 00:45:12.605
<00:45:09.945>So <00:45:10.100>like <00:45:10.256>in <00:45:10.411>my, <00:45:10.567>in, <00:45:10.722>in <00:45:10.878>my <00:45:11.033>simple <00:45:11.189>blog <00:45:11.345>posts

1083
00:45:12.605 --> 00:45:14.205
<00:45:12.605>where <00:45:12.780>I <00:45:12.955>have <00:45:13.130>like <00:45:13.305>a <00:45:13.480>button, <00:45:13.655>like <00:45:13.830>click <00:45:14.005>here

1084
00:45:14.205 --> 00:45:18.005
<00:45:14.205>to <00:45:14.345>summarize <00:45:14.485>stuff, <00:45:14.625>uh, <00:45:14.765>I'm <00:45:14.904>pretty <00:45:15.045>sure <00:45:15.185>I <00:45:15.325>wrote <00:45:15.465>the <00:45:15.605>code

1085
00:45:18.005 --> 00:45:20.165
<00:45:18.005>that <00:45:18.180>like <00:45:18.355>adds <00:45:18.530>a <00:45:18.705>little <00:45:18.880>message <00:45:19.055>saying, <00:45:19.230>Hey, <00:45:19.405>I'm,

1086
00:45:20.165 --> 00:45:21.245
<00:45:20.165>I'm, <00:45:20.489>I'm, <00:45:20.813>I'm <00:45:21.136>downloading.

1087
00:45:21.425 --> 00:45:24.125
<00:45:21.425>But <00:45:21.552>I <00:45:21.679>had <00:45:21.806>to <00:45:21.934>choose <00:45:22.061>to <00:45:22.188>do <00:45:22.315>that <00:45:22.443>to <00:45:22.570>let <00:45:22.697>them <00:45:22.825>know,

1088
00:45:24.715 --> 00:45:27.165
<00:45:24.715>this <00:45:24.890>is <00:45:25.065>why <00:45:25.240>your <00:45:25.415>summary <00:45:25.590>is <00:45:25.765>taking <00:45:25.940>so <00:45:26.115>long.

1089
00:45:28.745 --> 00:45:31.745
<00:45:28.745>Hmm. <00:45:28.920>And <00:45:29.095>talking <00:45:29.270>about <00:45:29.444>like, <00:45:29.620>writing <00:45:29.795>your <00:45:29.970>blog <00:45:30.145>post.

1090
00:45:32.025 --> 00:45:34.745
<00:45:32.025>I, <00:45:32.165>I, <00:45:32.305>I <00:45:32.445>love <00:45:32.585>that <00:45:32.725>post <00:45:32.865>as <00:45:33.005>well <00:45:33.145>with <00:45:33.285>the, <00:45:33.425>uh,

1091
00:45:35.465 --> 00:45:40.315
<00:45:35.465>that <00:45:35.592>like <00:45:35.719>in <00:45:35.846>the, <00:45:35.974>in <00:45:36.101>the <00:45:36.228>vibe <00:45:36.355>coding <00:45:36.483>thing, <00:45:36.610>um, <00:45:36.737>KA <00:45:36.865>uh,

1092
00:45:40.345 --> 00:45:42.675
<00:45:40.345>said <00:45:40.520>like, <00:45:40.694>don't <00:45:40.870>write <00:45:41.044>blog <00:45:41.220>posts, <00:45:41.395>don't <00:45:41.569>do <00:45:41.745>slides.

1093
00:45:42.685 --> 00:45:44.355
<00:45:42.685>Don't <00:45:42.884>do <00:45:43.085>any <00:45:43.285>of <00:45:43.485>that. <00:45:43.685>Build <00:45:43.884>the <00:45:44.085>code,

1094
00:45:44.355 --> 00:45:45.635
<00:45:44.355>arrange <00:45:44.585>it, <00:45:44.815>get <00:45:45.046>it <00:45:45.276>to <00:45:45.507>work.

1095
00:45:45.935 --> 00:45:48.195
<00:45:45.935>The <00:45:46.110>only <00:45:46.285>way <00:45:46.460>to <00:45:46.634>go, <00:45:46.810>otherwise <00:45:46.985>you're <00:45:47.160>missing <00:45:47.335>knowledge.

1096
00:45:49.015 --> 00:45:51.395
<00:45:49.015>And <00:45:49.248>yeah, <00:45:49.481>he <00:45:49.714>disagrees <00:45:49.948>with <00:45:50.181>that <00:45:50.415>person.

1097
00:45:51.535 --> 00:45:54.735
<00:45:51.535>And <00:45:51.768>I <00:45:52.001>really <00:45:52.234>think, <00:45:52.468>yeah, <00:45:52.701>it's <00:45:52.935>correct.

1098
00:45:54.765 --> 00:45:56.735
<00:45:54.765>Like <00:45:54.998>as <00:45:55.231>you <00:45:55.464>said <00:45:55.698>earlier, <00:45:55.931>you <00:45:56.165>can,

1099
00:45:56.755 --> 00:45:58.415
<00:45:56.755>you <00:45:56.930>can <00:45:57.105>have <00:45:57.280>your <00:45:57.455>own <00:45:57.630>voice <00:45:57.805>on <00:45:57.980>your <00:45:58.155>blog

1100
00:45:58.415 --> 00:45:59.975
<00:45:58.415>and <00:45:58.615>nobody <00:45:58.815>can <00:45:59.015>stop <00:45:59.215>you <00:45:59.415>from <00:45:59.615>doing <00:45:59.815>it.

1101
00:46:00.735 --> 00:46:04.115
<00:46:00.735>And <00:46:00.875>I <00:46:01.015>found <00:46:01.155>it <00:46:01.295>very <00:46:01.435>interesting <00:46:01.575>that <00:46:01.715>the <00:46:01.855>most <00:46:01.995>useless <00:46:02.135>stuff

1102
00:46:04.115 --> 00:46:07.435
<00:46:04.115>that <00:46:04.254>I <00:46:04.395>posted <00:46:04.535>about <00:46:04.674>that <00:46:04.814>I <00:46:04.955>just <00:46:05.095>wanted <00:46:05.234>to <00:46:05.375>remember <00:46:05.515>myself

1103
00:46:07.975 --> 00:46:10.635
<00:46:07.975>are <00:46:08.174>the <00:46:08.375>most <00:46:08.575>successful <00:46:08.775>blog <00:46:08.975>posts <00:46:09.174>I <00:46:09.375>have.

1104
00:46:12.085 --> 00:46:13.935
<00:46:12.085>Yeah. <00:46:12.318>Same <00:46:12.551>for <00:46:12.785>me. <00:46:13.018>Uh, <00:46:13.251>the <00:46:13.485>things

1105
00:46:13.935 --> 00:46:16.215
<00:46:13.935>that <00:46:14.110>I <00:46:14.285>think <00:46:14.460>are <00:46:14.634>too <00:46:14.810>low <00:46:14.985>level, <00:46:15.160>basic, <00:46:15.335>whatever,

1106
00:46:16.675 --> 00:46:18.895
<00:46:16.675>get <00:46:16.875>the <00:46:17.075>most <00:46:17.275>traffic, <00:46:17.475>get <00:46:17.675>the <00:46:17.875>most <00:46:18.075>interest.

1107
00:46:18.895 --> 00:46:22.535
<00:46:18.895>And <00:46:19.022>it's <00:46:19.149>been <00:46:19.276>that <00:46:19.404>way <00:46:19.531>for, <00:46:19.658>uh, <00:46:19.785>my <00:46:19.913>blog <00:46:20.040>launched <00:46:20.167>the <00:46:20.295>2003

1108
00:46:22.555 --> 00:46:24.655
<00:46:22.555>and <00:46:22.694>it's, <00:46:22.835>it's <00:46:22.975>been <00:46:23.115>that <00:46:23.254>way <00:46:23.395>since <00:46:23.535>day <00:46:23.674>one <00:46:23.815>pretty <00:46:23.955>much.

1109
00:46:26.045 --> 00:46:29.895
<00:46:26.045>Yeah. <00:46:26.161>And <00:46:26.278>I <00:46:26.395>mean, <00:46:26.511>Dan, <00:46:26.628>I <00:46:26.745>mean, <00:46:26.861>how <00:46:26.978>about <00:46:27.095>you <00:46:27.211>like, <00:46:27.328>I <00:46:27.445>mean,

1110
00:46:30.115 --> 00:46:31.855
<00:46:30.115>the <00:46:30.314>joy <00:46:30.515>of <00:46:30.714>just <00:46:30.915>being <00:46:31.115>able <00:46:31.314>to <00:46:31.515>do

1111
00:46:31.855 --> 00:46:34.775
<00:46:31.855>that <00:46:32.010>stuff <00:46:32.166>rather <00:46:32.321>than <00:46:32.477>just <00:46:32.632>writing <00:46:32.788>code <00:46:32.943>to <00:46:33.099>do <00:46:33.255>it

1112
00:46:34.775 --> 00:46:36.615
<00:46:34.775>for <00:46:34.930>me <00:46:35.086>is <00:46:35.241>something <00:46:35.397>I <00:46:35.552>don't <00:46:35.708>want <00:46:35.863>to <00:46:36.019>give <00:46:36.175>away.

1113
00:46:37.525 --> 00:46:38.575
<00:46:37.525>Yeah, <00:46:37.840>I <00:46:38.154>completely <00:46:38.470>agree.

1114
00:46:38.655 --> 00:46:40.295
<00:46:38.655>I <00:46:38.888>mean, <00:46:39.121>I <00:46:39.355>think, <00:46:39.588>um, <00:46:39.821>you <00:46:40.055>know,

1115
00:46:40.295 --> 00:46:42.655
<00:46:40.295>I <00:46:40.435>was <00:46:40.575>just <00:46:40.715>thinking <00:46:40.855>then <00:46:40.995>about <00:46:41.135>in <00:46:41.275>this <00:46:41.415>article <00:46:41.555>it <00:46:41.695>kind

1116
00:46:42.735 --> 00:46:45.695
<00:46:42.735>of <00:46:42.875>talks <00:46:43.015>about <00:46:43.155>the <00:46:43.295>building <00:46:43.435>being <00:46:43.575>the <00:46:43.715>best <00:46:43.855>way <00:46:43.995>to <00:46:44.135>learn.

1117
00:46:45.915 --> 00:46:47.375
<00:46:45.915>And <00:46:46.177>I <00:46:46.440>take <00:46:46.703>issue <00:46:46.966>with <00:46:47.229>that

1118
00:46:47.375 --> 00:46:50.295
<00:46:47.375>because <00:46:47.515>I <00:46:47.655>think <00:46:47.795>that <00:46:47.935>there's <00:46:48.075>a <00:46:48.215>good <00:46:48.355>pyramid <00:46:48.495>to <00:46:48.635>look <00:46:48.775>at,

1119
00:46:50.295 --> 00:46:52.575
<00:46:50.295>really, <00:46:50.470>it's <00:46:50.645>called <00:46:50.820>Bloom's <00:46:50.995>Taxonomy, <00:46:51.170>I <00:46:51.345>believe <00:46:51.520>it <00:46:51.695>is.

1120
00:46:52.795 --> 00:46:54.215
<00:46:52.795>And <00:46:52.977>it's <00:46:53.160>to <00:46:53.342>do <00:46:53.525>with <00:46:53.707>how <00:46:53.890>people <00:46:54.073>learn.

1121
00:46:54.515 --> 00:46:56.655
<00:46:54.515>And <00:46:54.670>it's <00:46:54.826>essentially <00:46:54.981>that <00:46:55.137>you, <00:46:55.292>you <00:46:55.448>move <00:46:55.603>up <00:46:55.759>through <00:46:55.915>each

1122
00:46:56.655 --> 00:46:58.255
<00:46:56.655>of <00:46:56.855>the <00:46:57.055>stages, <00:46:57.255>you <00:46:57.455>know, <00:46:57.655>starting <00:46:57.855>with <00:46:58.055>like,

1123
00:46:58.535 --> 00:47:00.935
<00:46:58.535>I <00:46:58.651>can <00:46:58.768>remember <00:46:58.884>this <00:46:59.001>word <00:46:59.118>so <00:46:59.234>I <00:46:59.351>can <00:46:59.468>say <00:46:59.585>it <00:46:59.701>back <00:46:59.818>to <00:46:59.935>you.

1124
00:47:01.175 --> 00:47:02.495
<00:47:01.175>I <00:47:01.344>dunno <00:47:01.514>what <00:47:01.684>it <00:47:01.853>means, <00:47:02.023>but <00:47:02.193>you <00:47:02.363>know,

1125
00:47:02.755 --> 00:47:04.375
<00:47:02.755>and <00:47:02.955>then <00:47:03.155>moving <00:47:03.355>up <00:47:03.555>through, <00:47:03.755>I <00:47:03.955>understand <00:47:04.155>it,

1126
00:47:04.495 --> 00:47:07.375
<00:47:04.495>I <00:47:04.622>can <00:47:04.749>apply <00:47:04.876>this <00:47:05.004>and <00:47:05.131>see <00:47:05.258>it <00:47:05.385>in <00:47:05.513>new <00:47:05.640>things <00:47:05.767>ending <00:47:05.895>with,

1127
00:47:07.515 --> 00:47:11.015
<00:47:07.515>and <00:47:07.654>now <00:47:07.795>I <00:47:07.935>can <00:47:08.075>build <00:47:08.214>things <00:47:08.355>with <00:47:08.495>this <00:47:08.634>knowledge <00:47:08.775>now <00:47:08.915>ending

1128
00:47:11.325 --> 00:47:13.495
<00:47:11.325>with <00:47:11.500>now <00:47:11.674>I <00:47:11.850>can <00:47:12.024>build <00:47:12.200>things <00:47:12.375>with <00:47:12.549>this <00:47:12.725>knowledge.

1129
00:47:13.555 --> 00:47:14.815
<00:47:13.555>So <00:47:13.781>I <00:47:14.008>think <00:47:14.235>when <00:47:14.462>you're <00:47:14.689>saying

1130
00:47:14.815 --> 00:47:16.735
<00:47:14.815>that <00:47:14.970>you <00:47:15.126>write <00:47:15.281>these <00:47:15.437>blog <00:47:15.592>posts <00:47:15.748>and <00:47:15.903>people <00:47:16.059>come <00:47:16.215>and,

1131
00:47:16.735 --> 00:47:17.775
<00:47:16.735>and <00:47:16.969>go, <00:47:17.203>oh, <00:47:17.437>thank <00:47:17.671>you.

1132
00:47:17.775 --> 00:47:21.415
<00:47:17.775>That <00:47:17.915>really <00:47:18.055>low <00:47:18.195>level <00:47:18.335>thing <00:47:18.475>that <00:47:18.615>I <00:47:18.755>sort <00:47:18.895>of <00:47:19.035>implicitly <00:47:19.175>knew,

1133
00:47:21.625 --> 00:47:22.895
<00:47:21.625>maybe <00:47:21.910>I <00:47:22.196>didn't <00:47:22.482>at <00:47:22.768>all,

1134
00:47:22.995 --> 00:47:25.575
<00:47:22.995>but <00:47:23.122>you <00:47:23.249>know, <00:47:23.376>your, <00:47:23.504>your <00:47:23.631>blog <00:47:23.758>post <00:47:23.885>has <00:47:24.013>helped <00:47:24.140>me <00:47:24.267>learn <00:47:24.395>it,

1135
00:47:25.955 --> 00:47:28.055
<00:47:25.955>uh, <00:47:26.130>in <00:47:26.305>a <00:47:26.480>really <00:47:26.654>formalized <00:47:26.830>way <00:47:27.005>in <00:47:27.180>my <00:47:27.355>head.

1136
00:47:28.445 --> 00:47:29.845
<00:47:28.445>That <00:47:28.865>is, <00:47:29.285>I <00:47:29.705>think

1137
00:47:29.845 --> 00:47:32.725
<00:47:29.845>because <00:47:30.044>people <00:47:30.245>are <00:47:30.444>trying <00:47:30.645>to <00:47:30.845>learn <00:47:31.044>by <00:47:31.245>building

1138
00:47:33.145 --> 00:47:35.685
<00:47:33.145>and <00:47:33.285>then <00:47:33.425>they <00:47:33.565>realize <00:47:33.705>I, <00:47:33.845>I <00:47:33.985>have <00:47:34.125>like <00:47:34.265>a <00:47:34.405>really, <00:47:34.545>um,

1139
00:47:36.075 --> 00:47:38.525
<00:47:36.075>poor <00:47:36.274>foundation <00:47:36.475>because <00:47:36.674>I <00:47:36.875>don't <00:47:37.075>have <00:47:37.274>the <00:47:37.475>knowledge

1140
00:47:38.525 --> 00:47:39.645
<00:47:38.525>underneath <00:47:38.777>it <00:47:39.029>all, <00:47:39.281>you <00:47:39.533>know?

1141
00:47:39.705 --> 00:47:41.285
<00:47:39.705>So <00:47:39.904>I <00:47:40.105>think <00:47:40.305>that's <00:47:40.505>where <00:47:40.705>your <00:47:40.904>blogs <00:47:41.105>are.

1142
00:47:41.645 --> 00:47:43.085
<00:47:41.645>I, <00:47:41.904>I, <00:47:42.163>Chris <00:47:42.422>I've <00:47:42.681>told <00:47:42.941>you

1143
00:47:43.085 --> 00:47:44.485
<00:47:43.085>before, <00:47:43.400>I've <00:47:43.715>used <00:47:44.030>probably <00:47:44.345>20

1144
00:47:44.585 --> 00:47:47.085
<00:47:44.585>of <00:47:44.760>your <00:47:44.935>blogs <00:47:45.110>not <00:47:45.285>even <00:47:45.460>on <00:47:45.635>purpose, <00:47:45.810>just <00:47:45.985>looking

1145
00:47:47.145 --> 00:47:48.605
<00:47:47.145>for <00:47:47.473>a <00:47:47.802>very <00:47:48.130>specific <00:47:48.459>answer.

1146
00:47:48.865 --> 00:47:51.245
<00:47:48.865>And <00:47:49.004>then <00:47:49.145>you've <00:47:49.285>written <00:47:49.424>a <00:47:49.564>blog <00:47:49.705>15 <00:47:49.845>years <00:47:49.984>ago <00:47:50.125>about <00:47:50.265>it

1147
00:47:51.745 --> 00:47:54.485
<00:47:51.745>and <00:47:51.900>it <00:47:52.056>shows <00:47:52.211>that <00:47:52.367>that's <00:47:52.522>the <00:47:52.678>really <00:47:52.833>valuable <00:47:52.989>stuff <00:47:53.145>though,

1148
00:47:54.625 --> 00:47:56.645
<00:47:54.625>you <00:47:54.780>know, <00:47:54.936>that <00:47:55.091>those <00:47:55.247>blogs <00:47:55.402>that <00:47:55.558>you've <00:47:55.713>forgotten <00:47:55.869>all <00:47:56.025>about.

1149
00:47:56.865 --> 00:47:59.205
<00:47:56.865>So <00:47:57.098>Yeah, <00:47:57.331>don't <00:47:57.564>stop <00:47:57.798>writing <00:47:58.031>blogs <00:47:58.265>people.

1150
00:47:59.915 --> 00:48:02.365
<00:47:59.915>Yeah. <00:48:00.115>I, <00:48:00.315>uh, <00:48:00.515>as <00:48:00.715>a <00:48:00.915>very <00:48:01.115>concrete <00:48:01.315>example,

1151
00:48:02.475 --> 00:48:03.965
<00:48:02.475>I've <00:48:02.743>heard <00:48:03.011>about <00:48:03.279>the <00:48:03.547>Abort <00:48:03.816>Controller

1152
00:48:03.965 --> 00:48:05.445
<00:48:03.965>for <00:48:04.298>a <00:48:04.631>couple <00:48:04.964>years <00:48:05.297>now.

1153
00:48:06.035 --> 00:48:07.605
<00:48:06.035>It's <00:48:06.268>never <00:48:06.501>really <00:48:06.734>made <00:48:06.968>sense <00:48:07.201>to <00:48:07.435>me.

1154
00:48:08.115 --> 00:48:11.345
<00:48:08.115>Blog <00:48:08.348>posts <00:48:08.581>I <00:48:08.814>found <00:48:09.048>last <00:48:09.281>week, <00:48:09.515>bam.

1155
00:48:11.375 --> 00:48:14.105
<00:48:11.375>That <00:48:11.550>was <00:48:11.725>instantly <00:48:11.900>what <00:48:12.075>I <00:48:12.250>needed <00:48:12.425>to <00:48:12.600>understand <00:48:12.775>it.

1156
00:48:15.185 --> 00:48:17.275
<00:48:15.185>Jake <00:48:15.418>Arch <00:48:15.651>Post, <00:48:15.884>or <00:48:16.118>what <00:48:16.351>was <00:48:16.585>it?

1157
00:48:18.835 --> 00:48:20.315
<00:48:18.835>I <00:48:19.101>forget <00:48:19.367>who <00:48:19.634>it <00:48:19.900>was. <00:48:20.167>Yeah,

1158
00:48:21.345 --> 00:48:22.345
<00:48:21.345>Yeah. <00:48:21.524>But <00:48:21.705>it's, <00:48:21.884>it's, <00:48:22.064>uh, <00:48:22.245>that's

1159
00:48:22.345 --> 00:48:23.355
<00:48:22.345>the <00:48:22.572>fun <00:48:22.799>thing <00:48:23.026>as <00:48:23.254>well.

1160
00:48:23.355 --> 00:48:26.955
<00:48:23.355>Like <00:48:23.495>the <00:48:23.635>amount <00:48:23.775>of <00:48:23.915>people <00:48:24.055>that <00:48:24.195>I <00:48:24.335>found <00:48:24.475>to, <00:48:24.615>to <00:48:24.755>invite

1161
00:48:26.955 --> 00:48:28.275
<00:48:26.955>as <00:48:27.252>speakers <00:48:27.549>at <00:48:27.846>our <00:48:28.143>events

1162
00:48:28.495 --> 00:48:30.395
<00:48:28.495>or <00:48:28.694>to <00:48:28.895>actually <00:48:29.095>hire <00:48:29.295>as <00:48:29.495>well <00:48:29.694>back <00:48:29.895>then,

1163
00:48:30.395 --> 00:48:32.915
<00:48:30.395>like <00:48:30.595>when <00:48:30.795>I <00:48:30.995>worked <00:48:31.195>in <00:48:31.395>Yahoo, <00:48:31.595>I, <00:48:31.795>uh,

1164
00:48:33.355 --> 00:48:37.235
<00:48:33.355>I <00:48:33.510>made <00:48:33.666>the <00:48:33.821>company's <00:48:33.977>money's <00:48:34.132>worth <00:48:34.288>of <00:48:34.443>paying <00:48:34.599>me <00:48:34.755>just

1165
00:48:37.255 --> 00:48:39.435
<00:48:37.255>by <00:48:37.430>hiring <00:48:37.605>15 <00:48:37.780>people <00:48:37.955>in <00:48:38.130>the <00:48:38.305>first <00:48:38.480>half <00:48:38.655>year.

1166
00:48:39.435 --> 00:48:41.715
<00:48:39.435>And <00:48:39.575>it <00:48:39.715>was <00:48:39.855>all <00:48:39.995>people <00:48:40.134>that <00:48:40.275>I <00:48:40.415>knew <00:48:40.555>from <00:48:40.695>mailing <00:48:40.835>lists

1167
00:48:41.715 --> 00:48:44.315
<00:48:41.715>that <00:48:41.870>I <00:48:42.026>knew <00:48:42.181>from <00:48:42.337>Block <00:48:42.492>Common, <00:48:42.648>that <00:48:42.803>I <00:48:42.959>knew <00:48:43.115>from

1168
00:48:44.665 --> 00:48:46.195
<00:48:44.665>that <00:48:44.894>little <00:48:45.124>world <00:48:45.353>that <00:48:45.583>we <00:48:45.812>live <00:48:46.042>in.

1169
00:48:46.535 --> 00:48:48.475
<00:48:46.535>And <00:48:46.710>I <00:48:46.884>think <00:48:47.060>it's <00:48:47.234>a <00:48:47.410>very <00:48:47.585>important <00:48:47.759>thing <00:48:47.935>not

1170
00:48:48.475 --> 00:48:49.715
<00:48:48.475>to <00:48:48.661>be <00:48:48.846>just <00:48:49.033>the <00:48:49.219>winner <00:48:49.405>of <00:48:49.591>that.

1171
00:48:49.715 --> 00:48:51.795
<00:48:49.715>Like <00:48:49.890>get <00:48:50.065>the <00:48:50.240>most <00:48:50.415>clicks, <00:48:50.590>get <00:48:50.765>the <00:48:50.940>most <00:48:51.115>views,

1172
00:48:51.855 --> 00:48:53.435
<00:48:51.855>but <00:48:52.321>actually <00:48:52.788>maybe <00:48:53.255>the,

1173
00:48:53.575 --> 00:48:55.955
<00:48:53.575>the <00:48:53.855>slow <00:48:54.134>burning <00:48:54.415>longer <00:48:54.694>things <00:48:54.975>are

1174
00:48:55.955 --> 00:48:57.235
<00:48:55.955>something <00:48:56.185>to <00:48:56.415>strive <00:48:56.646>for <00:48:56.876>as <00:48:57.107>well.

1175
00:48:57.465 --> 00:49:00.395
<00:48:57.465>It's, <00:48:57.640>it's, <00:48:57.815>it's <00:48:57.990>tough <00:48:58.165>'cause <00:48:58.340>it <00:48:58.515>needs <00:48:58.690>it <00:48:58.865>dedication

1176
00:49:00.495 --> 00:49:03.435
<00:49:00.495>and <00:49:00.622>it <00:49:00.749>needs, <00:49:00.876>sometimes <00:49:01.004>you <00:49:01.131>wait <00:49:01.258>for <00:49:01.385>years <00:49:01.513>for <00:49:01.640>it <00:49:01.767>to, <00:49:01.895>to,

1177
00:49:03.575 --> 00:49:07.155
<00:49:03.575>uh, <00:49:03.714>be <00:49:03.855>fruitful, <00:49:03.995>but <00:49:04.134>then <00:49:04.274>it <00:49:04.415>actually <00:49:04.555>is <00:49:04.694>an <00:49:04.835>interesting, <00:49:04.975>uh,

1178
00:49:07.255 --> 00:49:08.635
<00:49:07.255>um, <00:49:07.669>outcome <00:49:08.083>of <00:49:08.497>that.

1179
00:49:09.215 --> 00:49:11.515
<00:49:09.215>So, <00:49:09.331>Raymond, <00:49:09.448>do <00:49:09.565>you <00:49:09.681>have <00:49:09.798>have <00:49:09.915>time <00:49:10.031>or <00:49:10.148>do <00:49:10.265>you <00:49:10.381>have <00:49:10.498>to <00:49:10.615>leave?

1180
00:49:11.755 --> 00:49:12.995
<00:49:11.755>I <00:49:12.034>was <00:49:12.313>trying <00:49:12.592>to <00:49:12.871>remember.

1181
00:49:13.595 --> 00:49:16.315
<00:49:13.595>I <00:49:13.944>got <00:49:14.294>four <00:49:14.645>minutes. <00:49:14.995>Cool.

1182
00:49:17.025 --> 00:49:18.395
<00:49:17.025>Well, <00:49:17.271>I <00:49:17.518>mean, <00:49:17.764>yeah, <00:49:18.011>that <00:49:18.258>was

1183
00:49:18.485 --> 00:49:20.075
<00:49:18.485>delightful <00:49:18.718>to <00:49:18.951>have <00:49:19.185>you <00:49:19.418>on <00:49:19.651>the <00:49:19.885>show.

1184
00:49:20.235 --> 00:49:21.675
<00:49:20.235>I <00:49:20.451>mean, <00:49:20.667>it's <00:49:20.883>like, <00:49:21.099>it's, <00:49:21.315>it's <00:49:21.531>great

1185
00:49:21.675 --> 00:49:23.715
<00:49:21.675>to <00:49:21.850>see <00:49:22.025>somebody <00:49:22.200>who's <00:49:22.375>been <00:49:22.550>around <00:49:22.725>for <00:49:22.900>so <00:49:23.075>long

1186
00:49:23.735 --> 00:49:26.155
<00:49:23.735>and <00:49:23.910>you, <00:49:24.085>we <00:49:24.260>both <00:49:24.435>kind <00:49:24.610>of <00:49:24.785>like <00:49:24.960>always <00:49:25.135>played

1187
00:49:26.155 --> 00:49:28.275
<00:49:26.155>with <00:49:26.388>new <00:49:26.621>technologies <00:49:26.855>and <00:49:27.088>sorted <00:49:27.321>things <00:49:27.555>out.

1188
00:49:28.935 --> 00:49:30.915
<00:49:28.935>We <00:49:29.134>talked <00:49:29.335>earlier <00:49:29.535>that <00:49:29.735>your <00:49:29.935>whole <00:49:30.134>room <00:49:30.335>is

1189
00:49:30.915 --> 00:49:32.035
<00:49:30.915>full <00:49:31.167>of <00:49:31.419>Star <00:49:31.671>Wars <00:49:31.923>stuff.

1190
00:49:32.395 --> 00:49:34.315
<00:49:32.395>Like <00:49:32.628>what's, <00:49:32.861>what's <00:49:33.095>with <00:49:33.328>that? <00:49:33.561>Like, <00:49:33.795>you

1191
00:49:34.315 --> 00:49:35.315
<00:49:34.315>Know, <00:49:35.215>right.

1192
00:49:35.705 --> 00:49:37.435
<00:49:35.705>When <00:49:35.880>I <00:49:36.055>was <00:49:36.230>very <00:49:36.404>young, <00:49:36.580>there <00:49:36.755>were <00:49:36.930>two <00:49:37.105>movies

1193
00:49:37.705 --> 00:49:38.715
<00:49:37.705>that <00:49:38.008>like <00:49:38.311>hit <00:49:38.614>me.

1194
00:49:38.975 --> 00:49:43.155
<00:49:38.975>One <00:49:39.102>was <00:49:39.229>Star <00:49:39.356>Wars <00:49:39.484>just <00:49:39.611>because, <00:49:39.738>oh, <00:49:39.865>I <00:49:39.993>have <00:49:40.120>fun <00:49:40.247>Space, <00:49:40.375>swords

1195
00:49:43.155 --> 00:49:44.435
<00:49:43.155>and <00:49:43.443>all, <00:49:43.731>uh, <00:49:44.019>laser <00:49:44.307>Swords.

1196
00:49:44.735 --> 00:49:46.315
<00:49:44.735>And <00:49:44.968>the <00:49:45.201>other <00:49:45.435>one <00:49:45.668>was, <00:49:45.901>was <00:49:46.135>Tron.

1197
00:49:46.815 --> 00:49:50.635
<00:49:46.815>So <00:49:46.970>both <00:49:47.126>movies <00:49:47.281>just <00:49:47.437>had <00:49:47.592>an <00:49:47.748>incredible <00:49:47.903>impact <00:49:48.059>on <00:49:48.215>me.

1198
00:49:50.635 --> 00:49:52.115
<00:49:50.635>And <00:49:50.783>now <00:49:50.931>I <00:49:51.079>have <00:49:51.227>a <00:49:51.375>salary <00:49:51.523>and <00:49:51.671>I <00:49:51.819>could <00:49:51.966>buy

1199
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<00:49:52.115>toys <00:49:52.366>based <00:49:52.619>on <00:49:52.871>those <00:49:53.123>movies.

1200
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<00:49:54.285>Yeah. <00:49:54.460>Tron, <00:49:54.634>I <00:49:54.810>mean, <00:49:54.984>uh, <00:49:55.160>the <00:49:55.335>new <00:49:55.509>one <00:49:55.685>just,

1201
00:49:56.855 --> 00:49:58.175
<00:49:56.855>I, <00:49:57.152>I <00:49:57.449>didn't <00:49:57.746>even <00:49:58.043>bother.

1202
00:49:58.565 --> 00:50:01.495
<00:49:58.565>Like, <00:49:58.681>I <00:49:58.798>mean, <00:49:58.915>uh, <00:49:59.031>I, <00:49:59.148>I, <00:49:59.265>I'm, <00:49:59.381>I, <00:49:59.498>I <00:49:59.615>love <00:49:59.731>the <00:49:59.848>original <00:49:59.965>one

1203
00:50:01.515 --> 00:50:03.535
<00:50:01.515>for <00:50:01.690>its <00:50:01.865>kookiness <00:50:02.040>the <00:50:02.214>way <00:50:02.390>it <00:50:02.565>looks <00:50:02.740>right <00:50:02.915>now,

1204
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<00:50:03.535>but <00:50:03.815>back <00:50:04.095>then <00:50:04.375>it <00:50:04.654>was <00:50:04.935>groundbreaking.

1205
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<00:50:05.715>The, <00:50:05.890>if <00:50:06.065>you <00:50:06.240>had, <00:50:06.415>if <00:50:06.590>you <00:50:06.765>get <00:50:06.940>a <00:50:07.115>chance

1206
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<00:50:07.555>to <00:50:07.737>look <00:50:07.920>at <00:50:08.102>the <00:50:08.285>making <00:50:08.467>off <00:50:08.650>of <00:50:08.833>that,

1207
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<00:50:09.005>like <00:50:09.205>the <00:50:09.405>way <00:50:09.605>they <00:50:09.805>did <00:50:10.005>the <00:50:10.205>computery <00:50:10.405>look

1208
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<00:50:11.395>of <00:50:11.595>all <00:50:11.795>the <00:50:11.995>real <00:50:12.195>actors <00:50:12.395>and <00:50:12.595>the <00:50:12.795>backgrounds

1209
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<00:50:13.875>and <00:50:14.108>how <00:50:14.341>they <00:50:14.575>blended <00:50:14.808>that <00:50:15.041>in <00:50:15.275>1984.

1210
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<00:50:17.125>It's <00:50:17.651>just <00:50:18.178>absolutely,

1211
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<00:50:18.535>1982 <00:50:18.884>was <00:50:19.234>actually <00:50:19.585>absolutely <00:50:19.935>groundbreaking.

1212
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<00:50:21.355>And <00:50:21.482>then <00:50:21.609>the, <00:50:21.736>the <00:50:21.864>new <00:50:21.991>one, <00:50:22.118>which <00:50:22.245>felt <00:50:22.373>like <00:50:22.500>a <00:50:22.627>music <00:50:22.755>video

1213
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<00:50:24.555>for <00:50:24.694>DAF <00:50:24.835>Punk, <00:50:24.975>uh, <00:50:25.115>uh, <00:50:25.254>but <00:50:25.395>uh, <00:50:25.535>it <00:50:25.674>was <00:50:25.815>also <00:50:25.955>good.

1214
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<00:50:28.185>It <00:50:28.527>has <00:50:28.868>its <00:50:29.211>merits,

1215
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<00:50:29.345>but, <00:50:29.472>uh, <00:50:29.599>uh, <00:50:29.726>i, <00:50:29.854>I <00:50:29.981>just <00:50:30.108>don't, <00:50:30.235>Jared <00:50:30.363>let <00:50:30.490>is <00:50:30.617>a <00:50:30.745>problem.

1216
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<00:50:36.585>I'm <00:50:36.692>not <00:50:36.800>sure. <00:50:36.908>Have <00:50:37.015>you <00:50:37.123>seen <00:50:37.231>it? <00:50:37.338>The <00:50:37.446>new <00:50:37.554>one? <00:50:37.661>The, <00:50:37.769>the <00:50:37.877>S <00:50:37.985>one?

1217
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<00:50:39.865>Yes. <00:50:40.098>And <00:50:40.332>I <00:50:40.567>liked <00:50:40.801>it. <00:50:41.035>Uh,

1218
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<00:50:41.605>I <00:50:41.721>will <00:50:41.838>say <00:50:41.955>it <00:50:42.071>took <00:50:42.188>me <00:50:42.305>like <00:50:42.421>about <00:50:42.538>a <00:50:42.655>third <00:50:42.771>of <00:50:42.888>the <00:50:43.005>movie

1219
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<00:50:44.505>to <00:50:44.724>like <00:50:44.944>really <00:50:45.163>get <00:50:45.383>into <00:50:45.603>it.

1220
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<00:50:45.825>Uh, <00:50:45.932>but <00:50:46.040>when <00:50:46.148>I <00:50:46.255>did <00:50:46.363>it <00:50:46.471>is, <00:50:46.578>yeah, <00:50:46.686>it's <00:50:46.794>a, <00:50:46.901>it's <00:50:47.009>a <00:50:47.117>music <00:50:47.225>video.

1221
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<00:50:49.585>Uh, <00:50:49.760>but <00:50:49.935>it <00:50:50.110>is <00:50:50.285>one <00:50:50.460>that <00:50:50.635>I <00:50:50.810>enjoyed, <00:50:50.985>so

1222
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<00:50:53.195>Fair <00:50:53.645>enough. <00:50:54.095>Yeah.

1223
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<00:50:54.195>I <00:50:54.335>mean, <00:50:54.475>in <00:50:54.615>Star <00:50:54.755>Wars, <00:50:54.895>in <00:50:55.035>the <00:50:55.175>original, <00:50:55.315>uh, <00:50:55.455>um, <00:50:55.595>uh,

1224
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<00:50:58.245>original <00:50:58.400>movie, <00:50:58.556>like <00:50:58.711>in <00:50:58.867>a <00:50:59.022>New <00:50:59.178>Hope, <00:50:59.333>you <00:50:59.489>know, <00:50:59.645>they,

1225
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<00:51:01.045>they <00:51:01.185>actually <00:51:01.325>have <00:51:01.465>to, <00:51:01.605>uh, <00:51:01.745>uh, <00:51:01.885>they <00:51:02.025>had <00:51:02.165>to <00:51:02.305>get <00:51:02.445>the,

1226
00:51:05.065 --> 00:51:08.445
<00:51:05.065>the <00:51:05.205>plans <00:51:05.345>of <00:51:05.485>the, <00:51:05.625>of <00:51:05.765>the <00:51:05.905>Death <00:51:06.045>Star <00:51:06.185>to <00:51:06.325>the, <00:51:06.465>uh,

1227
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<00:51:08.685>rebellions <00:51:09.141>to <00:51:09.596>the <00:51:10.053>Rebels.

1228
00:51:10.205 --> 00:51:13.365
<00:51:10.205>Right. <00:51:10.404>You <00:51:10.605>know <00:51:10.805>why <00:51:11.005>she <00:51:11.205>couldn't <00:51:11.404>email <00:51:11.605>it?

1229
00:51:15.065 --> 00:51:17.935
<00:51:15.065>Why? <00:51:15.298>Because <00:51:15.531>OB <00:51:15.765>one <00:51:15.998>is <00:51:16.231>a <00:51:16.465>Jedi

1230
00:51:17.935 --> 00:51:19.095
<00:51:17.935>and <00:51:18.196>attachments <00:51:18.457>are <00:51:18.718>not <00:51:18.979>allowed.

1231
00:51:20.275 --> 00:51:21.175
<00:51:20.275>That's <00:51:20.680>that's <00:51:21.085>horrible.

1232
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<00:51:25.055>I <00:51:25.307>like <00:51:25.558>the <00:51:25.811>reaction.

1233
00:51:26.115 --> 00:51:29.935
<00:51:26.115>That's <00:51:26.814>horrible. <00:51:27.515>Yeah.

1234
00:51:29.935 --> 00:51:33.495
<00:51:29.935>What <00:51:30.075>I <00:51:30.215>mean, <00:51:30.355>that's, <00:51:30.495>uh, <00:51:30.634>we <00:51:30.775>only <00:51:30.915>learned <00:51:31.055>about <00:51:31.195>in <00:51:31.335>the,

1235
00:51:33.495 --> 00:51:35.175
<00:51:33.495>in <00:51:33.694>the <00:51:33.895>prequels <00:51:34.095>that <00:51:34.295>these <00:51:34.495>are <00:51:34.694>not <00:51:34.895>allowed,

1236
00:51:35.445 --> 00:51:37.415
<00:51:35.445>that <00:51:35.600>was <00:51:35.756>never <00:51:35.911>mentioned <00:51:36.067>in <00:51:36.222>the <00:51:36.378>original <00:51:36.533>movie <00:51:36.689>as <00:51:36.845>well.

1237
00:51:37.415 --> 00:51:39.655
<00:51:37.415>Like <00:51:37.648>it's <00:51:37.881>just, <00:51:38.115>it's <00:51:38.348>funny <00:51:38.581>how <00:51:38.815>lore

1238
00:51:39.655 --> 00:51:41.215
<00:51:39.655>around <00:51:40.121>something <00:51:40.588>becomes <00:51:41.055>bigger

1239
00:51:41.315 --> 00:51:43.815
<00:51:41.315>and <00:51:41.470>bigger <00:51:41.626>the <00:51:41.781>longer <00:51:41.937>it, <00:51:42.092>uh, <00:51:42.248>it, <00:51:42.403>it, <00:51:42.559>it <00:51:42.715>lasts.

1240
00:51:43.835 --> 00:51:45.495
<00:51:43.835>And <00:51:44.115>I <00:51:44.395>think <00:51:44.675>same <00:51:44.955>with <00:51:45.235>programming

1241
00:51:45.495 --> 00:51:47.175
<00:51:45.495>and <00:51:45.775>same <00:51:46.055>with <00:51:46.335>like <00:51:46.615>those <00:51:46.895>environments,

1242
00:51:48.455 --> 00:51:51.055
<00:51:48.455>I <00:51:48.595>think, <00:51:48.735>uh, <00:51:48.875>it's, <00:51:49.015>it's <00:51:49.154>a <00:51:49.295>thing <00:51:49.435>on <00:51:49.575>these <00:51:49.715>sci-fi <00:51:49.855>movies

1243
00:51:51.325 --> 00:51:52.695
<00:51:51.325>that <00:51:51.633>like <00:51:51.941>have <00:51:52.249>a <00:51:52.558>cannon.

1244
00:51:52.695 --> 00:51:54.375
<00:51:52.695>Like <00:51:52.895>these <00:51:53.095>are <00:51:53.295>the <00:51:53.495>rules <00:51:53.695>of <00:51:53.895>this <00:51:54.095>universe.

1245
00:51:54.995 --> 00:51:56.535
<00:51:54.995>And <00:51:55.225>I <00:51:55.457>appreciate <00:51:55.688>that. <00:51:55.919>It's <00:51:56.149>like <00:51:56.381>why?

1246
00:51:56.575 --> 00:51:58.175
<00:51:56.575>I <00:51:57.041>like <00:51:57.508>the <00:51:57.975>Dun

1247
00:51:58.275 --> 00:52:00.415
<00:51:58.275>and <00:51:58.508>Dragons, <00:51:58.741>you're <00:51:58.975>putting <00:51:59.208>rules <00:51:59.441>behind <00:51:59.675>dragons

1248
00:52:00.415 --> 00:52:04.455
<00:52:00.415>and <00:52:00.542>stuff <00:52:00.669>at <00:52:00.796>the <00:52:00.924>same <00:52:01.051>time <00:52:01.178>as <00:52:01.305>a <00:52:01.433>writer, <00:52:01.560>I'm <00:52:01.687>like, <00:52:01.815>yeah,

1249
00:52:04.465 --> 00:52:06.255
<00:52:04.465>rules <00:52:04.665>are <00:52:04.865>fine, <00:52:05.065>but <00:52:05.265>you <00:52:05.465>can <00:52:05.665>also <00:52:05.865>just

1250
00:52:06.305 --> 00:52:08.535
<00:52:06.305>throw <00:52:06.460>'em <00:52:06.616>away <00:52:06.771>and <00:52:06.927>go <00:52:07.082>crazy. <00:52:07.238>Why <00:52:07.393>not <00:52:07.549>have <00:52:07.705>fun?

1251
00:52:09.385 --> 00:52:11.515
<00:52:09.385>Yeah. <00:52:09.665>To, <00:52:09.945>to, <00:52:10.225>uh, <00:52:10.505>the <00:52:10.785>suspension

1252
00:52:11.515 --> 00:52:13.995
<00:52:11.515>of <00:52:11.690>disbelief <00:52:11.865>is <00:52:12.040>the <00:52:12.214>big <00:52:12.390>one <00:52:12.565>about <00:52:12.740>movies <00:52:12.915>anyway.

1253
00:52:13.995 --> 00:52:16.395
<00:52:13.995>It's <00:52:14.228>like, <00:52:14.461>it <00:52:14.694>is <00:52:14.928>great <00:52:15.161>to <00:52:15.395>see

1254
00:52:16.395 --> 00:52:18.275
<00:52:16.395>that <00:52:16.675>these <00:52:16.955>things <00:52:17.235>last <00:52:17.515>that <00:52:17.795>long.

1255
00:52:18.535 --> 00:52:22.235
<00:52:18.535>And, <00:52:18.674>uh, <00:52:18.815>I <00:52:18.955>always <00:52:19.095>wondered <00:52:19.234>like <00:52:19.375>how <00:52:19.515>much <00:52:19.654>of <00:52:19.795>the, <00:52:19.935>uh,

1256
00:52:22.295 --> 00:52:23.315
<00:52:22.295>of <00:52:22.601>the <00:52:22.907>Star <00:52:23.213>Wars

1257
00:52:23.335 --> 00:52:25.955
<00:52:23.335>and <00:52:23.510>also <00:52:23.685>Star <00:52:23.860>Trek, <00:52:24.035>uh, <00:52:24.210>stuff <00:52:24.385>now <00:52:24.560>that <00:52:24.735>kid,

1258
00:52:26.345 --> 00:52:27.955
<00:52:26.345>kids <00:52:26.625>are <00:52:26.904>basically <00:52:27.185>forced <00:52:27.464>to <00:52:27.745>do

1259
00:52:27.955 --> 00:52:29.355
<00:52:27.955>because <00:52:28.207>the <00:52:28.459>parents <00:52:28.711>are <00:52:28.963>into <00:52:29.215>it.

1260
00:52:30.745 --> 00:52:33.235
<00:52:30.745>That <00:52:30.884>feels <00:52:31.025>like <00:52:31.165>a, <00:52:31.305>a <00:52:31.444>law <00:52:31.585>that <00:52:31.725>goes <00:52:31.865>from <00:52:32.005>your <00:52:32.145>parents

1261
00:52:33.375 --> 00:52:35.995
<00:52:33.375>to <00:52:33.530>here's <00:52:33.686>my, <00:52:33.841>here's <00:52:33.997>my <00:52:34.152>level <00:52:34.308>of <00:52:34.463>geekiness, <00:52:34.619>uh, <00:52:34.775>of

1262
00:52:36.635 --> 00:52:37.835
<00:52:36.635>TATed <00:52:36.905>on <00:52:37.175>you <00:52:37.445>as <00:52:37.715>well.

1263
00:52:38.635 --> 00:52:40.595
<00:52:38.635>I, <00:52:38.790>I've <00:52:38.946>tried <00:52:39.101>to <00:52:39.257>get <00:52:39.412>my <00:52:39.568>kids <00:52:39.723>into <00:52:39.879>Star <00:52:40.035>Wars

1264
00:52:40.595 --> 00:52:42.635
<00:52:40.595>and <00:52:40.770>they're <00:52:40.944>just, <00:52:41.120>there's <00:52:41.294>not <00:52:41.470>happening, <00:52:41.645>which <00:52:41.819>is <00:52:41.995>fine.

1265
00:52:42.865 --> 00:52:44.195
<00:52:42.865>It's, <00:52:43.104>it's <00:52:43.343>good <00:52:43.583>enough <00:52:43.822>for <00:52:44.062>me.

1266
00:52:45.305 --> 00:52:47.435
<00:52:45.305>Cool. <00:52:45.504>Well <00:52:45.705>talk <00:52:45.904>about <00:52:46.105>good <00:52:46.305>enough <00:52:46.504>for <00:52:46.705>us.

1267
00:52:47.595 --> 00:52:49.075
<00:52:47.595>I <00:52:47.785>think <00:52:47.975>that's <00:52:48.165>good <00:52:48.356>enough <00:52:48.546>for <00:52:48.736>us <00:52:48.926>today

1268
00:52:49.075 --> 00:52:50.155
<00:52:49.075>as <00:52:49.269>well <00:52:49.463>on <00:52:49.658>the <00:52:49.852>live <00:52:50.047>show.

1269
00:52:50.155 --> 00:52:52.395
<00:52:50.155>Raymond, <00:52:50.355>thank <00:52:50.555>you <00:52:50.755>so <00:52:50.955>much. <00:52:51.155>Everybody <00:52:51.355>loves <00:52:51.555>Raymond.

1270
00:52:53.255 --> 00:52:55.555
<00:52:53.255>Uh, <00:52:53.455>and <00:52:53.655>uh, <00:52:53.855>we <00:52:54.055>had <00:52:54.255>a <00:52:54.455>good <00:52:54.655>show

1271
00:52:55.775 --> 00:52:57.475
<00:52:55.775>and <00:52:56.008>it's, <00:52:56.241>it's <00:52:56.475>fun <00:52:56.708>to <00:52:56.941>see <00:52:57.175>you.

1272
00:52:57.535 --> 00:53:00.275
<00:52:57.535>Uh, <00:52:57.651>we <00:52:57.768>have <00:52:57.884>a <00:52:58.001>con <00:52:58.118>uh, <00:52:58.234>we <00:52:58.351>have <00:52:58.468>a, <00:52:58.585>a <00:52:58.701>event <00:52:58.818>coming <00:52:58.935>up,

1273
00:53:00.275 --> 00:53:01.995
<00:53:00.275>which <00:53:00.625>is <00:53:00.975>AI <00:53:01.325>and <00:53:01.675>performance.

1274
00:53:02.535 --> 00:53:04.235
<00:53:02.535>So <00:53:02.734>it <00:53:02.935>would <00:53:03.134>be <00:53:03.335>interesting <00:53:03.535>if <00:53:03.734>you're <00:53:03.935>interested

1275
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1276
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1277
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1278
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1279
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<00:53:14.635>already <00:53:14.932>have <00:53:15.229>showered <00:53:15.526>and <00:53:15.823>stuff.

1280
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<00:53:16.535>Be <00:53:16.674>good. <00:53:16.815>That <00:53:16.955>sounds <00:53:17.095>great. <00:53:17.234>And <00:53:17.375>thank <00:53:17.515>you <00:53:17.654>for <00:53:17.795>having <00:53:17.935>me.

1281
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<00:53:19.555>And <00:53:19.788>any <00:53:20.021>last <00:53:20.254>words <00:53:20.488>for <00:53:20.721>our <00:53:20.955>audience?

1282
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1283
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<00:53:23.955>Uh, <00:53:24.235>Attend <00:53:24.515>to <00:53:24.795>your <00:53:25.075>mental <00:53:25.355>health?

1284
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<00:53:27.635>Good <00:53:27.938>advice. <00:53:28.241>Very <00:53:28.544>much.

1285
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<00:53:28.945>That's <00:53:29.072>what <00:53:29.199>I'm <00:53:29.326>gonna <00:53:29.454>do <00:53:29.581>now <00:53:29.708>as <00:53:29.835>well. <00:53:29.963>Thanks <00:53:30.090>very <00:53:30.217>much, <00:53:30.345>Dan.

1286
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1287
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1288
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1289
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<00:53:38.425>See <00:53:38.650>you <00:53:38.875>soon.