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<00:15:33.885>little, <00:15:34.165>uh, <00:15:34.444>mosquito <00:15:34.725>here <00:15:35.005>on <00:15:35.285>Instagram

393
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<00:15:36.465>and <00:15:36.819>everybody <00:15:37.173>wanted <00:15:37.527>that

394
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<00:15:37.665>and <00:15:37.898>everybody <00:15:38.131>knows <00:15:38.365>that <00:15:38.598>skin <00:15:38.831>is <00:15:39.064>living.

395
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<00:15:40.345>So <00:15:40.687>after <00:15:41.029>three <00:15:41.371>years,

396
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<00:15:41.485>that <00:15:41.685>little <00:15:41.885>mosquito <00:15:42.085>would <00:15:42.285>be <00:15:42.485>a <00:15:42.685>blue <00:15:42.885>blo,

397
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<00:15:43.245>like <00:15:43.420>you <00:15:43.595>just <00:15:43.770>came <00:15:43.945>out <00:15:44.120>of <00:15:44.295>prison <00:15:44.470>or <00:15:44.645>something.

398
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<00:15:45.425>And <00:15:45.704>uh, <00:15:45.984>it <00:15:46.265>basically <00:15:46.545>is <00:15:46.824>not

399
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<00:15:47.285>what <00:15:47.459>you <00:15:47.635>see <00:15:47.810>on <00:15:47.985>Instagram <00:15:48.160>on <00:15:48.334>the <00:15:48.510>first <00:15:48.685>day.

400
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<00:15:49.865>And <00:15:50.005>that <00:15:50.145>feels <00:15:50.285>to <00:15:50.425>me <00:15:50.565>the <00:15:50.705>same <00:15:50.845>about <00:15:50.985>software <00:15:51.125>as <00:15:51.265>well.

401
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<00:15:52.485>Software <00:15:52.660>products <00:15:52.835>grow <00:15:53.010>over <00:15:53.185>time <00:15:53.360>and <00:15:53.535>change <00:15:53.710>over <00:15:53.885>time.

402
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<00:15:54.905>And <00:15:55.079>actually <00:15:55.255>when <00:15:55.430>you <00:15:55.605>don't <00:15:55.780>put <00:15:55.954>the <00:15:56.130>effort <00:15:56.305>into

403
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<00:15:57.485>documentation <00:15:58.097>and <00:15:58.709>communication,

404
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<00:15:58.875>then <00:15:59.108>it <00:15:59.341>actually <00:15:59.575>can <00:15:59.808>grow <00:16:00.041>outta <00:16:00.275>proportion

405
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<00:16:00.645>and <00:16:00.878>it <00:16:01.111>can <00:16:01.345>bleed <00:16:01.578>out <00:16:01.811>into <00:16:02.045>places

406
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<00:16:02.445>that <00:16:02.653>you <00:16:02.862>don't <00:16:03.071>want <00:16:03.280>to <00:16:03.489>have.

407
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<00:16:04.225>And <00:16:04.380>the <00:16:04.536>other <00:16:04.691>thing <00:16:04.847>is, <00:16:05.002>it's <00:16:05.158>really <00:16:05.313>hard <00:16:05.469>to <00:16:05.625>find

408
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<00:16:06.165>that <00:16:06.292>the <00:16:06.419>two <00:16:06.546>artists <00:16:06.674>that <00:16:06.801>does <00:16:06.928>a <00:16:07.055>do <00:16:07.183>over, <00:16:07.310>so <00:16:07.437>basically, <00:16:07.564>or,

409
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<00:16:09.485>or <00:16:09.941>a <00:16:10.397>coverup <00:16:10.853>basically,

410
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<00:16:11.005>because <00:16:11.221>most <00:16:11.437>of <00:16:11.653>them <00:16:11.869>say <00:16:12.085>like,

411
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<00:16:12.205>okay, <00:16:12.361>I <00:16:12.517>don't <00:16:12.673>want <00:16:12.829>to <00:16:12.985>do <00:16:13.141>that.

412
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<00:16:13.325>I <00:16:13.465>wanna <00:16:13.605>do <00:16:13.745>something <00:16:13.885>else. <00:16:14.025>I <00:16:14.165>don't <00:16:14.305>wanna <00:16:14.445>mess <00:16:14.585>up, <00:16:14.725>uh,

413
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<00:16:15.545>fix <00:16:15.700>somebody <00:16:15.856>else's <00:16:16.011>thing, <00:16:16.167>which <00:16:16.322>is <00:16:16.478>the <00:16:16.633>same <00:16:16.789>in <00:16:16.944>software

414
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<00:16:19.485>because <00:16:19.685>nobody <00:16:19.885>wants <00:16:20.085>to <00:16:20.285>work <00:16:20.485>on <00:16:20.685>legacy <00:16:20.885>code.

415
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<00:16:21.875>That <00:16:22.143>actually <00:16:22.411>was <00:16:22.679>messed <00:16:22.947>up <00:16:23.216>before.

416
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<00:16:23.395>Luckily <00:16:23.522>I <00:16:23.649>didn't <00:16:23.776>have <00:16:23.904>to <00:16:24.031>have <00:16:24.158>a <00:16:24.285>makeover <00:16:24.413>or <00:16:24.540>a <00:16:24.667>coverup <00:16:24.795>yet.

417
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<00:16:28.545>But <00:16:28.891>yes, <00:16:29.238>it's <00:16:29.584>fully <00:16:29.931>true.

418
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<00:16:30.205>I <00:16:30.405>mean, <00:16:30.605>I <00:16:30.805>think <00:16:31.005>my, <00:16:31.205>my <00:16:31.405>two <00:16:31.605>artists

419
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<00:16:32.155>because, <00:16:32.388>uh, <00:16:32.621>in <00:16:32.855>Asia <00:16:33.088>he's <00:16:33.321>quite <00:16:33.555>famous.

420
00:16:34.345 --> 00:16:37.445
<00:16:34.345>He <00:16:34.461>would <00:16:34.578>not <00:16:34.695>even <00:16:34.811>do, <00:16:34.928>I <00:16:35.045>think <00:16:35.161>if <00:16:35.278>you <00:16:35.395>go <00:16:35.511>there <00:16:35.628>with <00:16:35.745>a,

421
00:16:37.445 --> 00:16:39.165
<00:16:37.445>with <00:16:37.795>an <00:16:38.145>Instagram, <00:16:38.495>uh, <00:16:38.845>picture,

422
00:16:39.165 --> 00:16:40.445
<00:16:39.165>they <00:16:39.395>would <00:16:39.625>say, <00:16:39.856>no, <00:16:40.086>thank <00:16:40.317>you.

423
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<00:16:40.505>We <00:16:40.738>have <00:16:40.971>enough <00:16:41.205>customers <00:16:41.438>that <00:16:41.671>we <00:16:41.905>can

424
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<00:16:43.975>bring <00:16:44.325>our <00:16:44.675>own <00:16:45.025>creativity <00:16:45.375>in.

425
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<00:16:46.025>Um, <00:16:46.152>than <00:16:46.279>than <00:16:46.406>just <00:16:46.534>doing <00:16:46.661>something <00:16:46.788>is <00:16:46.915>that's <00:16:47.043>a <00:16:47.170>copy <00:16:47.297>of <00:16:47.425>some

426
00:16:49.705 --> 00:16:51.045
<00:16:49.705>of, <00:16:50.006>as <00:16:50.308>you <00:16:50.609>said, <00:16:50.911>something

427
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<00:16:51.045>that <00:16:51.219>people <00:16:51.395>are <00:16:51.569>not <00:16:51.745>even <00:16:51.920>aware <00:16:52.094>of <00:16:52.270>the <00:16:52.444>consequences.

428
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<00:16:55.315>Yeah. <00:16:55.490>And <00:16:55.665>yeah, <00:16:55.840>the, <00:16:56.015>the <00:16:56.190>uh, <00:16:56.365>uh, <00:16:56.540>the <00:16:56.715>the,

429
00:16:58.225 --> 00:17:00.605
<00:16:58.225>the <00:16:58.380>legacy <00:16:58.536>stuff <00:16:58.691>I <00:16:58.847>think <00:16:59.002>comes <00:16:59.158>in <00:16:59.313>there <00:16:59.469>as <00:16:59.625>well.

430
00:17:00.835 --> 00:17:03.285
<00:17:00.835>Like <00:17:00.990>the <00:17:01.146>product <00:17:01.301>that <00:17:01.457>you <00:17:01.612>put <00:17:01.768>in <00:17:01.923>place <00:17:02.079>right <00:17:02.235>now

431
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<00:17:04.115>will <00:17:04.255>be <00:17:04.395>painful <00:17:04.535>to <00:17:04.675>remove <00:17:04.815>and <00:17:04.954>will <00:17:05.095>be <00:17:05.234>painful <00:17:05.375>to <00:17:05.515>change.

432
00:17:07.105 --> 00:17:09.405
<00:17:07.105>And <00:17:07.221>I <00:17:07.338>know <00:17:07.454>a <00:17:07.571>lot <00:17:07.688>of <00:17:07.805>people <00:17:07.921>who <00:17:08.038>had <00:17:08.155>like <00:17:08.271>laser <00:17:08.388>uh, <00:17:08.505>uh,

433
00:17:09.405 --> 00:17:10.405
<00:17:09.405>removal <00:17:09.629>and <00:17:09.855>they <00:17:10.079>said <00:17:10.305>like,

434
00:17:10.405 --> 00:17:11.845
<00:17:10.405>it's <00:17:10.664>actually <00:17:10.923>worse <00:17:11.182>than <00:17:11.441>the <00:17:11.701>tattooing.

435
00:17:12.505 --> 00:17:15.005
<00:17:12.505>And <00:17:12.645>uh, <00:17:12.785>that's <00:17:12.925>also <00:17:13.065>the <00:17:13.205>same, <00:17:13.345>like <00:17:13.485>when <00:17:13.625>a <00:17:13.765>company <00:17:13.905>worked

436
00:17:15.005 --> 00:17:17.605
<00:17:15.005>with <00:17:15.160>a <00:17:15.316>software <00:17:15.471>product <00:17:15.627>for <00:17:15.782>like <00:17:15.938>10 <00:17:16.093>years, <00:17:16.249>removing <00:17:16.405>that

437
00:17:17.745 --> 00:17:19.325
<00:17:17.744>and <00:17:18.094>changing <00:17:18.444>it <00:17:18.794>to <00:17:19.145>something

438
00:17:19.325 --> 00:17:20.885
<00:17:19.325>because <00:17:19.605>a <00:17:19.885>new <00:17:20.165>framework <00:17:20.444>came <00:17:20.725>out

439
00:17:21.545 --> 00:17:23.525
<00:17:21.545>really <00:17:21.778>doesn't <00:17:22.011>go <00:17:22.245>down <00:17:22.478>that <00:17:22.711>well <00:17:22.945>normally.

440
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<00:17:24.865>Agreed. <00:17:25.324>Agreed. <00:17:25.782>Yeah.

441
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<00:17:26.045>EI <00:17:26.200>mean, <00:17:26.356>even <00:17:26.511>if <00:17:26.667>you, <00:17:26.822>if <00:17:26.978>you <00:17:27.133>just <00:17:27.289>update <00:17:27.445>off,

442
00:17:28.825 --> 00:17:32.965
<00:17:28.825>or <00:17:28.965>if <00:17:29.105>you <00:17:29.245>didn't <00:17:29.385>update <00:17:29.525>your, <00:17:29.665>your <00:17:29.805>libraries <00:17:29.945>for <00:17:30.085>like <00:17:30.225>one

443
00:17:32.965 --> 00:17:34.125
<00:17:32.965>or <00:17:33.139>two <00:17:33.312>or <00:17:33.486>three <00:17:33.661>or <00:17:33.835>four <00:17:34.009>years,

444
00:17:34.125 --> 00:17:36.445
<00:17:34.125>especially <00:17:34.325>in <00:17:34.525>in <00:17:34.725>front-end <00:17:34.925>web <00:17:35.125>design, <00:17:35.325>I <00:17:35.525>mean,

445
00:17:36.895 --> 00:17:40.205
<00:17:36.895>these <00:17:37.035>libraries, <00:17:37.175>they <00:17:37.315>get <00:17:37.455>updated <00:17:37.595>so <00:17:37.735>fast, <00:17:37.875>which <00:17:38.014>is, <00:17:38.155>I <00:17:38.295>mean,

446
00:17:40.205 --> 00:17:42.525
<00:17:40.205>it's <00:17:40.379>a <00:17:40.554>good <00:17:40.730>thing <00:17:40.905>because <00:17:41.080>it's, <00:17:41.254>they're <00:17:41.429>well <00:17:41.605>maintained,

447
00:17:42.525 --> 00:17:43.685
<00:17:42.525>but <00:17:42.699>if <00:17:42.873>you <00:17:43.047>do <00:17:43.221>not <00:17:43.395>keep <00:17:43.569>up

448
00:17:43.685 --> 00:17:46.725
<00:17:43.685>and <00:17:43.825>then <00:17:43.965>you <00:17:44.105>have <00:17:44.245>to, <00:17:44.385>the <00:17:44.524>big, <00:17:44.665>the <00:17:44.804>big <00:17:44.945>change, <00:17:45.085>usually

449
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<00:17:46.755>that <00:17:46.930>becomes <00:17:47.105>a <00:17:47.280>Pandora <00:17:47.455>box <00:17:47.630>and <00:17:47.805>cost-wise <00:17:47.980>a <00:17:48.155>nightmare.

450
00:17:50.665 --> 00:17:53.205
<00:17:50.665>And, <00:17:50.865>uh, <00:17:51.065>I <00:17:51.264>had <00:17:51.465>several <00:17:51.665>projects <00:17:51.865>like <00:17:52.065>this,

451
00:17:53.205 --> 00:17:56.285
<00:17:53.205>which <00:17:53.379>then <00:17:53.554>grew <00:17:53.730>like <00:17:53.905>by <00:17:54.080>factor <00:17:54.254>three <00:17:54.429>or <00:17:54.605>five

452
00:17:56.755 --> 00:17:58.205
<00:17:56.755>because <00:17:57.016>we <00:17:57.277>thought, <00:17:57.538>oh, <00:17:57.799>it's <00:17:58.060>just,

453
00:17:58.395 --> 00:18:00.725
<00:17:58.395>just <00:17:58.595>update <00:17:58.795>those <00:17:58.995>library, <00:17:59.195>what <00:17:59.395>can <00:17:59.595>go <00:17:59.795>wrong?

454
00:18:01.665 --> 00:18:02.725
<00:18:01.665>And <00:18:01.855>we <00:18:02.046>found <00:18:02.237>out <00:18:02.428>a <00:18:02.619>lot.

455
00:18:04.275 --> 00:18:07.085
<00:18:04.275>Well, <00:18:04.415>one <00:18:04.555>thing <00:18:04.695>also <00:18:04.835>you <00:18:04.975>touched <00:18:05.115>on <00:18:05.255>to <00:18:05.395>a <00:18:05.535>degree <00:18:05.675>is

456
00:18:07.245 --> 00:18:09.765
<00:18:07.245>that <00:18:07.445>respect <00:18:07.645>thing <00:18:07.844>like <00:18:08.044>that, <00:18:08.245>uh, <00:18:08.445>a <00:18:08.645>lot

457
00:18:09.765 --> 00:18:12.485
<00:18:09.765>of <00:18:09.881>people <00:18:09.998>when <00:18:10.115>you <00:18:10.231>say <00:18:10.348>you <00:18:10.465>gave, <00:18:10.581>you <00:18:10.698>go <00:18:10.815>to <00:18:10.931>a <00:18:11.048>tattoo <00:18:11.165>artist,

458
00:18:12.585 --> 00:18:13.925
<00:18:12.585>you <00:18:12.826>don't <00:18:13.067>stagger <00:18:13.308>in <00:18:13.549>their <00:18:13.791>trunk

459
00:18:13.925 --> 00:18:16.285
<00:18:13.925>and <00:18:14.052>say <00:18:14.179>like, <00:18:14.306>make <00:18:14.434>me <00:18:14.561>an <00:18:14.688>anchor <00:18:14.815>on <00:18:14.943>my <00:18:15.070>forearm <00:18:15.197>or <00:18:15.325>something.

460
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<00:18:16.625>But <00:18:16.825>you <00:18:17.025>basically <00:18:17.225>see <00:18:17.425>that <00:18:17.625>there <00:18:17.825>are <00:18:18.025>artists

461
00:18:18.875 --> 00:18:20.485
<00:18:18.875>that <00:18:19.108>they <00:18:19.341>actually <00:18:19.575>know <00:18:19.808>what <00:18:20.041>they're <00:18:20.275>doing

462
00:18:20.585 --> 00:18:23.205
<00:18:20.585>and <00:18:20.725>you <00:18:20.865>can <00:18:21.005>see <00:18:21.145>at <00:18:21.285>the <00:18:21.425>quality <00:18:21.565>of <00:18:21.705>the <00:18:21.845>tattoo <00:18:21.985>parlor,

463
00:18:23.475 --> 00:18:25.445
<00:18:23.475>like <00:18:23.754>do <00:18:24.034>they <00:18:24.314>reuse <00:18:24.594>the <00:18:24.875>needles

464
00:18:25.505 --> 00:18:28.245
<00:18:25.505>or <00:18:25.645>do <00:18:25.785>they <00:18:25.925>actually <00:18:26.065>clean <00:18:26.205>stuff <00:18:26.345>and <00:18:26.485>these <00:18:26.625>kind <00:18:26.765>of <00:18:26.905>things.

465
00:18:28.905 --> 00:18:32.565
<00:18:28.905>And <00:18:29.060>uh, <00:18:29.216>it's, <00:18:29.371>it's, <00:18:29.527>it's <00:18:29.682>the <00:18:29.838>same <00:18:29.993>with <00:18:30.149>software <00:18:30.305>oftentimes,

466
00:18:32.565 --> 00:18:34.965
<00:18:32.565>especially <00:18:32.798>in <00:18:33.031>our <00:18:33.265>accelerated <00:18:33.498>times <00:18:33.731>right <00:18:33.965>now

467
00:18:35.535 --> 00:18:36.805
<00:18:35.535>where <00:18:35.820>people <00:18:36.106>will <00:18:36.392>come <00:18:36.678>up

468
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469
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<00:18:39.345>we, <00:18:39.500>we <00:18:39.656>only <00:18:39.811>need <00:18:39.967>like <00:18:40.122>one <00:18:40.278>engineer <00:18:40.433>for <00:18:40.589>that, <00:18:40.745>right?

470
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<00:18:41.385>And <00:18:41.512>you <00:18:41.639>as <00:18:41.766>a, <00:18:41.894>as <00:18:42.021>a <00:18:42.148>consultant, <00:18:42.275>you <00:18:42.403>already <00:18:42.530>have <00:18:42.657>like <00:18:42.785>10

471
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<00:18:45.365>of <00:18:45.645>your <00:18:45.925>engineers <00:18:46.205>ready <00:18:46.485>and <00:18:46.765>waiting

472
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<00:18:47.105>and <00:18:47.280>you're <00:18:47.455>basically <00:18:47.630>like, <00:18:47.805>no, <00:18:47.980>it's <00:18:48.155>not <00:18:48.330>one <00:18:48.505>person

473
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<00:18:49.715>with <00:18:49.870>a <00:18:50.026>white <00:18:50.181>coding <00:18:50.337>environment <00:18:50.492>that <00:18:50.648>will <00:18:50.803>actually <00:18:50.959>fix <00:18:51.115>your,

474
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<00:18:53.225>uh, <00:18:53.691>internet <00:18:54.158>banking <00:18:54.625>infrastructure

475
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<00:18:55.125>that's <00:18:55.358>been <00:18:55.591>in <00:18:55.825>place <00:18:56.058>in <00:18:56.291>15 <00:18:56.525>years.

476
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Right?

477
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<00:18:58.265>Agreed. <00:18:58.405>I <00:18:58.545>mean, <00:18:58.685>I <00:18:58.825>mean, <00:18:58.965>I <00:18:59.105>think <00:18:59.245>that's, <00:18:59.385>I <00:18:59.525>mean <00:18:59.665>it's,

478
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<00:19:01.085>it's <00:19:01.397>always <00:19:01.709>the <00:19:02.021>balance.

479
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<00:19:02.305>As <00:19:02.782>a <00:19:03.259>consultant

480
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<00:19:03.505>or <00:19:03.855>an <00:19:04.205>external <00:19:04.555>software <00:19:04.905>house,

481
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<00:19:05.545>you <00:19:05.825>always <00:19:06.105>have <00:19:06.385>this, <00:19:06.665>this <00:19:06.945>dilemma.

482
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<00:19:07.685>I <00:19:07.840>mean, <00:19:07.996>if <00:19:08.151>you <00:19:08.307>see <00:19:08.462>that <00:19:08.618>the <00:19:08.773>requirements <00:19:08.929>of <00:19:09.085>of,

483
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<00:19:11.185>of <00:19:11.312>a <00:19:11.439>customer <00:19:11.566>they <00:19:11.694>come <00:19:11.821>up <00:19:11.948>with, <00:19:12.075>like, <00:19:12.203>as <00:19:12.330>you <00:19:12.457>said, <00:19:12.585>yeah,

484
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<00:19:14.165>we <00:19:14.340>need, <00:19:14.514>I <00:19:14.690>think <00:19:14.865>we <00:19:15.040>need <00:19:15.215>one, <00:19:15.389>one <00:19:15.565>developer

485
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<00:19:16.985>and <00:19:17.140>with <00:19:17.296>a <00:19:17.451>wide <00:19:17.607>co <00:19:17.762>with <00:19:17.918>a <00:19:18.073>cursor <00:19:18.229>or <00:19:18.385>so,

486
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<00:19:19.545>and <00:19:19.720>then <00:19:19.895>it'll <00:19:20.070>fix <00:19:20.245>it <00:19:20.420>in, <00:19:20.595>in <00:19:20.770>two <00:19:20.945>weeks.

487
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<00:19:22.105>We <00:19:22.447>have <00:19:22.789>everything <00:19:23.130>fixed.

488
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<00:19:23.705>So <00:19:23.845>I <00:19:23.985>think <00:19:24.125>especially <00:19:24.264>to <00:19:24.405>date, <00:19:24.544>it's <00:19:24.685>even <00:19:24.824>harder <00:19:24.965>to <00:19:25.105>explain

489
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<00:19:26.825>to <00:19:26.980>them, <00:19:27.136>no, <00:19:27.291>that's <00:19:27.447>not <00:19:27.602>gonna, <00:19:27.758>maybe <00:19:27.913>it's <00:19:28.069>gonna <00:19:28.225>happen,

490
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<00:19:30.465>but <00:19:30.696>not <00:19:30.927>to <00:19:31.158>the <00:19:31.389>extent <00:19:31.620>you <00:19:31.851>like,

491
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<00:19:32.065>and <00:19:32.220>maybe <00:19:32.376>the <00:19:32.531>consequences <00:19:32.687>will <00:19:32.842>cost <00:19:32.998>you <00:19:33.153>more <00:19:33.309>than <00:19:33.465>hiring

492
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<00:19:34.875>four <00:19:35.002>or <00:19:35.129>five <00:19:35.256>people <00:19:35.384>and <00:19:35.511>doing <00:19:35.638>it <00:19:35.765>right <00:19:35.893>in <00:19:36.020>the <00:19:36.147>first <00:19:36.275>place.

493
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<00:19:38.385>So <00:19:38.525>I <00:19:38.665>think <00:19:38.805>it's, <00:19:38.945>as <00:19:39.085>a <00:19:39.225>consultant, <00:19:39.365>it's <00:19:39.504>always <00:19:39.645>this <00:19:39.785>balance

494
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<00:19:40.915>that, <00:19:41.148>do <00:19:41.381>you <00:19:41.615>want <00:19:41.848>to <00:19:42.081>rip <00:19:42.315>the,

495
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<00:19:42.525>because <00:19:42.680>they <00:19:42.836>think <00:19:42.991>you <00:19:43.147>want <00:19:43.302>to <00:19:43.458>rip <00:19:43.613>them <00:19:43.769>off <00:19:43.925>by,

496
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<00:19:45.105>by <00:19:45.459>staffing <00:19:45.813>more <00:19:46.167>people.

497
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<00:19:46.745>And <00:19:46.885>I <00:19:47.024>think <00:19:47.165>to, <00:19:47.304>to <00:19:47.445>give <00:19:47.584>them <00:19:47.725>the, <00:19:47.864>the <00:19:48.004>clarity <00:19:48.145>that

498
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<00:19:50.245>what <00:19:50.385>they <00:19:50.524>want <00:19:50.665>is <00:19:50.804>just <00:19:50.945>has <00:19:51.084>that <00:19:51.225>that <00:19:51.364>side <00:19:51.504>effect <00:19:51.645>is,

499
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<00:19:54.205>is <00:19:54.438>still <00:19:54.671>something <00:19:54.905>that, <00:19:55.138>that, <00:19:55.371>that, <00:19:55.605>yeah,

500
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<00:19:57.475>even <00:19:57.754>especially <00:19:58.034>nowadays <00:19:58.314>with <00:19:58.594>vibe <00:19:58.875>coding

501
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<00:19:59.785>and <00:19:59.960>all <00:20:00.135>these <00:20:00.310>AI <00:20:00.485>systems <00:20:00.660>is <00:20:00.835>getting <00:20:01.010>much <00:20:01.185>harder.

502
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<00:20:03.875>Also <00:20:04.050>be <00:20:04.225>like, <00:20:04.400>I <00:20:04.575>had <00:20:04.750>customers <00:20:04.925>that <00:20:05.100>said, <00:20:05.275>yeah,

503
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<00:20:07.265>we <00:20:07.545>looked <00:20:07.825>at <00:20:08.105>your, <00:20:08.385>uh, <00:20:08.665>estimation

504
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<00:20:09.185>and <00:20:09.418>we <00:20:09.651>put <00:20:09.885>it <00:20:10.118>into <00:20:10.351>chat, <00:20:10.585>GPT

505
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<00:20:11.105>and <00:20:11.221>chat, <00:20:11.338>GPT <00:20:11.455>call <00:20:11.571>it <00:20:11.688>by <00:20:11.805>like <00:20:11.921>from <00:20:12.038>30 <00:20:12.155>days <00:20:12.271>to <00:20:12.388>five <00:20:12.505>days.

506
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<00:20:15.585>So <00:20:15.760>I <00:20:15.935>think <00:20:16.110>you <00:20:16.285>want <00:20:16.460>to <00:20:16.635>rip <00:20:16.810>us <00:20:16.985>off

507
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<00:20:17.985>and <00:20:18.185>I <00:20:18.385>mean, <00:20:18.584>what <00:20:18.784>you <00:20:18.985>say <00:20:19.185>to <00:20:19.385>that,

508
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<00:20:20.985>at <00:20:21.218>some <00:20:21.451>point <00:20:21.685>we <00:20:21.918>didn't <00:20:22.151>say, <00:20:22.385>okay,

509
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<00:20:22.645>then <00:20:22.855>maybe <00:20:23.065>we <00:20:23.275>are <00:20:23.485>the <00:20:23.695>wrong <00:20:23.905>partner.

510
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<00:20:24.505>But <00:20:24.738>still <00:20:24.971>at <00:20:25.205>some <00:20:25.438>part, <00:20:25.671>I <00:20:25.905>mean,

511
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<00:20:26.085>your <00:20:26.225>salespeople <00:20:26.365>more <00:20:26.505>are <00:20:26.645>maybe <00:20:26.785>not <00:20:26.925>that <00:20:27.065>happy <00:20:27.205>if <00:20:27.345>you <00:20:27.485>do

512
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<00:20:29.005>that <00:20:29.437>too <00:20:29.869>often, <00:20:30.301>um,

513
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<00:20:30.445>because <00:20:30.572>you <00:20:30.699>then <00:20:30.826>come <00:20:30.954>out <00:20:31.081>also <00:20:31.208>as <00:20:31.335>a <00:20:31.463>picky, <00:20:31.590>picky, <00:20:31.717>um, <00:20:31.845>uh,

514
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<00:20:34.885>software <00:20:35.351>vendor <00:20:35.818>or <00:20:36.285>so.

515
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<00:20:36.445>But <00:20:36.585>I <00:20:36.725>mean, <00:20:36.865>in <00:20:37.004>the <00:20:37.145>end, <00:20:37.284>in <00:20:37.425>my <00:20:37.564>personal <00:20:37.705>opinion, <00:20:37.845>I

516
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<00:20:40.265>how <00:20:40.405>I <00:20:40.545>grew <00:20:40.685>up <00:20:40.825>writing <00:20:40.965>software <00:20:41.105>is <00:20:41.245>like, <00:20:41.385>I <00:20:41.525>would <00:20:41.665>like

517
00:20:43.485 --> 00:20:47.005
<00:20:43.485>to <00:20:43.685>create <00:20:43.885>a <00:20:44.084>sustainable <00:20:44.284>software <00:20:44.485>system <00:20:44.685>that <00:20:44.885>basically

518
00:20:47.545 --> 00:20:49.405
<00:20:47.545>can <00:20:47.825>stay <00:20:48.105>over <00:20:48.385>over <00:20:48.665>several <00:20:48.945>years

519
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<00:20:49.405>because, <00:20:49.580>um, <00:20:49.754>um, <00:20:49.930>in <00:20:50.105>my <00:20:50.280>former <00:20:50.455>project, <00:20:50.629>I <00:20:50.805>used

520
00:20:51.805 --> 00:20:55.005
<00:20:51.805>to <00:20:51.980>work <00:20:52.155>in <00:20:52.330>medical <00:20:52.505>and, <00:20:52.680>uh, <00:20:52.855>laboratory <00:20:53.030>devices, <00:20:53.205>uh,

521
00:20:55.005 --> 00:20:57.845
<00:20:55.005>and <00:20:55.180>I <00:20:55.355>mean, <00:20:55.530>those, <00:20:55.705>those <00:20:55.880>things <00:20:56.055>should <00:20:56.230>stay <00:20:56.405>relevant

522
00:20:57.995 --> 00:20:59.365
<00:20:57.995>over <00:20:58.406>10, <00:20:58.817>15 <00:20:59.228>years.

523
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<00:20:59.365>They're <00:20:59.815>very <00:21:00.265>expensive.

524
00:21:00.705 --> 00:21:05.205
<00:21:00.705>And, <00:21:00.832>um, <00:21:00.959>I <00:21:01.086>mean, <00:21:01.214>if <00:21:01.341>you <00:21:01.468>dare <00:21:01.595>just <00:21:01.723>apply <00:21:01.850>sloppy <00:21:01.977>codes, <00:21:02.105>um,

525
00:21:05.235 --> 00:21:07.245
<00:21:05.235>that <00:21:05.435>could <00:21:05.635>also <00:21:05.834>in <00:21:06.034>the <00:21:06.235>end <00:21:06.435>cost <00:21:06.635>lives.

526
00:21:07.305 --> 00:21:09.445
<00:21:07.305>And, <00:21:07.538>and <00:21:07.771>that's <00:21:08.005>not <00:21:08.238>something <00:21:08.471>I <00:21:08.705>would,

527
00:21:09.685 --> 00:21:11.845
<00:21:09.685>I <00:21:09.825>rather <00:21:09.965>than <00:21:10.105>would <00:21:10.245>say, <00:21:10.385>okay, <00:21:10.524>then <00:21:10.665>we <00:21:10.804>the <00:21:10.945>wrong <00:21:11.085>partner

528
00:21:11.945 --> 00:21:14.965
<00:21:11.945>for <00:21:12.100>you <00:21:12.256>to <00:21:12.411>create <00:21:12.567>you <00:21:12.722>this <00:21:12.878>software <00:21:13.033>then <00:21:13.189>yeah, <00:21:13.345>yeah,

529
00:21:14.965 --> 00:21:16.205
<00:21:14.965>we <00:21:15.188>do <00:21:15.411>it <00:21:15.634>with <00:21:15.857>two <00:21:16.081>people.

530
00:21:16.345 --> 00:21:17.925
<00:21:16.345>And, <00:21:16.695>and <00:21:17.045>some <00:21:17.395>cursor <00:21:17.745>instances,

531
00:21:18.815 --> 00:21:20.705
<00:21:18.815>Well, <00:21:18.970>I <00:21:19.126>guess <00:21:19.281>when <00:21:19.437>you're <00:21:19.592>a <00:21:19.748>freelancer <00:21:19.903>at <00:21:20.059>the <00:21:20.215>beginning

532
00:21:20.705 --> 00:21:22.265
<00:21:20.705>and <00:21:20.938>you <00:21:21.171>take <00:21:21.405>on <00:21:21.638>too <00:21:21.871>many <00:21:22.105>clients

533
00:21:22.365 --> 00:21:24.145
<00:21:22.365>and <00:21:22.565>you're <00:21:22.765>not, <00:21:22.965>not <00:21:23.165>have <00:21:23.365>a <00:21:23.565>cutoff <00:21:23.765>point

534
00:21:24.285 --> 00:21:25.585
<00:21:24.285>and <00:21:24.519>you're <00:21:24.753>basically <00:21:24.987>like, <00:21:25.221>oh <00:21:25.455>yeah,

535
00:21:25.645 --> 00:21:26.945
<00:21:25.645>I'm <00:21:25.812>gonna <00:21:25.979>be <00:21:26.146>there <00:21:26.313>when <00:21:26.480>you <00:21:26.647>have <00:21:26.815>plenty

536
00:21:26.965 --> 00:21:28.465
<00:21:26.965>of <00:21:27.235>questions, <00:21:27.504>don't <00:21:27.774>worry <00:21:28.044>about <00:21:28.314>it.

537
00:21:28.765 --> 00:21:29.905
<00:21:28.765>And <00:21:28.936>then <00:21:29.107>you <00:21:29.278>have <00:21:29.449>five <00:21:29.620>of <00:21:29.791>those

538
00:21:29.925 --> 00:21:31.945
<00:21:29.925>and <00:21:30.158>you <00:21:30.391>answer <00:21:30.625>more <00:21:30.858>email <00:21:31.091>requests <00:21:31.325>like,

539
00:21:31.945 --> 00:21:33.985
<00:21:31.945>where <00:21:32.085>do <00:21:32.225>I <00:21:32.365>turn <00:21:32.504>on <00:21:32.645>the <00:21:32.784>computer <00:21:32.925>than <00:21:33.064>like, <00:21:33.205>being <00:21:33.345>able

540
00:21:33.985 --> 00:21:35.585
<00:21:33.985>to <00:21:34.218>sell <00:21:34.451>software <00:21:34.685>to <00:21:34.918>the <00:21:35.151>next <00:21:35.385>vendor

541
00:21:35.615 --> 00:21:37.145
<00:21:35.615>that <00:21:35.811>you <00:21:36.008>want <00:21:36.205>to <00:21:36.401>get <00:21:36.598>some <00:21:36.795>money <00:21:36.992>from.

542
00:21:37.245 --> 00:21:40.105
<00:21:37.245>So <00:21:37.419>there <00:21:37.594>is <00:21:37.770>a <00:21:37.945>way <00:21:38.120>of <00:21:38.294>the <00:21:38.469>clear <00:21:38.645>communication,

543
00:21:40.125 --> 00:21:41.545
<00:21:40.125>as <00:21:40.307>you <00:21:40.490>pointed <00:21:40.672>out, <00:21:40.855>that <00:21:41.037>you <00:21:41.220>have <00:21:41.403>to

544
00:21:42.095 --> 00:21:44.625
<00:21:42.095>protect <00:21:42.295>yourself <00:21:42.495>from <00:21:42.695>too <00:21:42.895>many <00:21:43.095>requests <00:21:43.295>as <00:21:43.495>well.

545
00:21:45.735 --> 00:21:46.745
<00:21:45.735>Yeah, <00:21:45.962>true. <00:21:46.189>I <00:21:46.416>mean, <00:21:46.643>true.

546
00:21:46.905 --> 00:21:50.025
<00:21:46.905>I <00:21:47.045>mean, <00:21:47.185>uh, <00:21:47.325>I <00:21:47.465>think <00:21:47.605>that's, <00:21:47.745>that's <00:21:47.885>also <00:21:48.024>something <00:21:48.165>you <00:21:48.305>need

547
00:21:50.025 --> 00:21:51.185
<00:21:50.025>to <00:21:50.286>set <00:21:50.547>a <00:21:50.808>clear <00:21:51.069>scope,

548
00:21:51.185 --> 00:21:53.065
<00:21:51.185>especially <00:21:51.418>if <00:21:51.651>it's <00:21:51.885>a <00:21:52.118>fixed <00:21:52.351>price <00:21:52.585>project.

549
00:21:53.805 --> 00:21:57.465
<00:21:53.805>Um, <00:21:53.932>or, <00:21:54.059>um, <00:21:54.186>you <00:21:54.314>have <00:21:54.441>to, <00:21:54.568>to, <00:21:54.695>um, <00:21:54.823>to <00:21:54.950>make <00:21:55.077>it <00:21:55.205>clear

550
00:21:57.615 --> 00:22:00.145
<00:21:57.615>what <00:21:57.815>falls <00:21:58.015>on <00:21:58.215>the <00:21:58.415>warranty, <00:21:58.615>what <00:21:58.815>is <00:21:59.015>support

551
00:22:00.325 --> 00:22:03.145
<00:22:00.325>and <00:22:00.480>how <00:22:00.636>much <00:22:00.791>of <00:22:00.947>which <00:22:01.102>you <00:22:01.258>get <00:22:01.413>for <00:22:01.569>what <00:22:01.725>price

552
00:22:03.325 --> 00:22:06.065
<00:22:03.325>or <00:22:03.480>for <00:22:03.636>free, <00:22:03.791>if, <00:22:03.947>if <00:22:04.102>it's <00:22:04.258>a <00:22:04.413>case <00:22:04.569>of <00:22:04.725>warranty.

553
00:22:06.325 --> 00:22:07.825
<00:22:06.325>And <00:22:06.550>I <00:22:06.775>think <00:22:07.000>this <00:22:07.225>is <00:22:07.450>also <00:22:07.675>something

554
00:22:07.825 --> 00:22:11.545
<00:22:07.825>that <00:22:07.965>the <00:22:08.105>balance <00:22:08.245>is <00:22:08.385>always <00:22:08.525>to <00:22:08.665>not <00:22:08.805>come <00:22:08.945>out <00:22:09.085>as <00:22:09.225>picky

555
00:22:11.545 --> 00:22:15.385
<00:22:11.545>and <00:22:11.661>saying, <00:22:11.778>oh, <00:22:11.895>no, <00:22:12.011>if <00:22:12.128>I <00:22:12.245>should <00:22:12.361>look <00:22:12.478>at <00:22:12.595>your <00:22:12.711>code, <00:22:12.828>pay <00:22:12.945>me.

556
00:22:15.605 --> 00:22:20.225
<00:22:15.605>Versus, <00:22:15.732>yeah, <00:22:15.859>look, <00:22:15.986>um, <00:22:16.114>as <00:22:16.241>you <00:22:16.368>said, <00:22:16.495>I <00:22:16.623>have <00:22:16.750>things <00:22:16.877>to <00:22:17.005>do,

557
00:22:20.275 --> 00:22:22.025
<00:22:20.275>which <00:22:20.508>I <00:22:20.741>need <00:22:20.975>to <00:22:21.208>make <00:22:21.441>money <00:22:21.675>off,

558
00:22:22.405 --> 00:22:24.825
<00:22:22.405>and <00:22:22.685>your <00:22:22.965>request <00:22:23.245>is <00:22:23.524>maybe <00:22:23.805>not

559
00:22:24.825 --> 00:22:26.425
<00:22:24.825>as <00:22:25.175>important <00:22:25.525>as <00:22:25.875>other <00:22:26.225>people's.

560
00:22:26.425 --> 00:22:28.345
<00:22:26.425>And, <00:22:26.625>and, <00:22:26.825>and <00:22:27.024>I <00:22:27.225>think <00:22:27.425>that <00:22:27.625>this <00:22:27.825>is,

561
00:22:28.515 --> 00:22:31.865
<00:22:28.515>especially <00:22:28.690>in <00:22:28.865>consultancy, <00:22:29.040>something, <00:22:29.215>you, <00:22:29.390>you <00:22:29.565>have <00:22:29.740>to <00:22:29.915>learn

562
00:22:32.005 --> 00:22:33.705
<00:22:32.005>how <00:22:32.238>to <00:22:32.471>balance <00:22:32.705>it, <00:22:32.938>and <00:22:33.171>I <00:22:33.405>had

563
00:22:33.705 --> 00:22:34.945
<00:22:33.705>to <00:22:33.890>learn <00:22:34.077>that <00:22:34.263>the <00:22:34.448>hardware <00:22:34.635>as <00:22:34.821>well.

564
00:22:35.655 --> 00:22:39.265
<00:22:35.655>Yeah. <00:22:35.782>So, <00:22:35.909>uh, <00:22:36.036>demo <00:22:36.164>time <00:22:36.291>is <00:22:36.418>one <00:22:36.545>of <00:22:36.673>the <00:22:36.800>visual <00:22:36.927>studio <00:22:37.055>codes,

565
00:22:39.265 --> 00:22:42.225
<00:22:39.265>uh, <00:22:39.498>products, <00:22:39.731>uh, <00:22:39.965>that <00:22:40.198>I've <00:22:40.431>been <00:22:40.665>developing

566
00:22:42.245 --> 00:22:43.625
<00:22:42.245>for <00:22:42.493>I <00:22:42.741>think <00:22:42.990>two <00:22:43.238>years <00:22:43.487>now.

567
00:22:44.285 --> 00:22:46.625
<00:22:44.285>Um, <00:22:44.565>and <00:22:44.845>the <00:22:45.125>reason <00:22:45.405>why <00:22:45.685>is

568
00:22:46.655 --> 00:22:50.705
<00:22:46.655>because <00:22:46.855>I'm, <00:22:47.055>I <00:22:47.254>love <00:22:47.455>to <00:22:47.655>present <00:22:47.855>at <00:22:48.055>conferences

569
00:22:51.325 --> 00:22:54.185
<00:22:51.325>and <00:22:51.465>most <00:22:51.605>of <00:22:51.745>the <00:22:51.885>time <00:22:52.025>when <00:22:52.165>I'm <00:22:52.305>at <00:22:52.445>the <00:22:52.585>conference, <00:22:52.725>uh,

570
00:22:54.185 --> 00:22:55.785
<00:22:54.185>prepare <00:22:54.465>the <00:22:54.745>talk, <00:22:55.024>I <00:22:55.304>will <00:22:55.585>do

571
00:22:55.785 --> 00:22:58.825
<00:22:55.785>that <00:22:55.985>talk <00:22:56.185>maybe <00:22:56.385>another <00:22:56.585>time <00:22:56.785>at <00:22:56.985>another <00:22:57.185>conference.

572
00:22:59.565 --> 00:23:03.025
<00:22:59.565>And <00:22:59.681>back <00:22:59.798>then <00:22:59.915>what <00:23:00.031>I <00:23:00.148>did <00:23:00.265>was <00:23:00.381>I <00:23:00.498>wrote <00:23:00.615>everything <00:23:00.731>down <00:23:00.848>in <00:23:00.965>a

573
00:23:03.025 --> 00:23:06.065
<00:23:03.025>script <00:23:03.180>file, <00:23:03.336>like <00:23:03.491>it <00:23:03.647>can <00:23:03.802>be <00:23:03.958>on <00:23:04.113>my, <00:23:04.269>uh, <00:23:04.425>iPad

574
00:23:06.125 --> 00:23:08.265
<00:23:06.125>or <00:23:06.325>it <00:23:06.525>could <00:23:06.725>be <00:23:06.925>just, <00:23:07.125>uh, <00:23:07.325>paper <00:23:07.525>notes.

575
00:23:08.885 --> 00:23:11.585
<00:23:08.885>And <00:23:09.012>when <00:23:09.139>I <00:23:09.266>needed <00:23:09.394>to <00:23:09.521>go <00:23:09.648>to <00:23:09.775>another <00:23:09.903>conference <00:23:10.030>a <00:23:10.157>couple <00:23:10.285>of,

576
00:23:11.585 --> 00:23:13.745
<00:23:11.585>uh, <00:23:11.725>months <00:23:11.865>later <00:23:12.005>and <00:23:12.145>do <00:23:12.285>the <00:23:12.425>same <00:23:12.565>talk, <00:23:12.705>it <00:23:12.845>was <00:23:12.985>like,

577
00:23:13.885 --> 00:23:14.945
<00:23:13.885>oh, <00:23:14.123>where <00:23:14.362>are <00:23:14.600>these <00:23:14.839>notes?

578
00:23:14.975 --> 00:23:17.505
<00:23:14.975>Okay, <00:23:15.091>here <00:23:15.208>and <00:23:15.324>this <00:23:15.441>is <00:23:15.558>what <00:23:15.675>I <00:23:15.791>need <00:23:15.908>to <00:23:16.024>do <00:23:16.141>this, <00:23:16.258>and <00:23:16.375>then,

579
00:23:17.525 --> 00:23:18.825
<00:23:17.525>and, <00:23:17.720>and <00:23:17.915>so <00:23:18.110>on <00:23:18.305>and <00:23:18.500>so <00:23:18.695>on.

580
00:23:19.125 --> 00:23:22.265
<00:23:19.125>So <00:23:19.300>I, <00:23:19.475>I <00:23:19.650>found <00:23:19.825>myself <00:23:20.000>doing <00:23:20.175>the <00:23:20.350>same <00:23:20.525>old

581
00:23:22.265 --> 00:23:23.625
<00:23:22.265>thing <00:23:22.571>every <00:23:22.877>now <00:23:23.183>and <00:23:23.489>then.

582
00:23:23.625 --> 00:23:27.505
<00:23:23.625>And <00:23:23.765>then <00:23:23.905>I <00:23:24.045>started <00:23:24.185>to <00:23:24.325>create <00:23:24.465>snippets <00:23:24.605>until <00:23:24.745>a <00:23:24.885>person <00:23:25.025>came

583
00:23:27.505 --> 00:23:28.665
<00:23:27.505>to <00:23:27.679>me <00:23:27.853>and <00:23:28.027>they <00:23:28.201>said <00:23:28.375>like, <00:23:28.549>Hey,

584
00:23:28.715 --> 00:23:31.625
<00:23:28.715>isn't <00:23:28.948>there <00:23:29.181>anything <00:23:29.415>easier <00:23:29.648>than <00:23:29.881>that <00:23:30.115>then

585
00:23:31.975 --> 00:23:35.265
<00:23:31.975>that <00:23:32.115>you <00:23:32.254>can <00:23:32.395>just <00:23:32.534>pick <00:23:32.675>up <00:23:32.814>and <00:23:32.955>go <00:23:33.094>with <00:23:33.235>the <00:23:33.375>flow?

586
00:23:35.425 --> 00:23:38.265
<00:23:35.425>I <00:23:35.580>was <00:23:35.736>like, <00:23:35.891>Hmm, <00:23:36.047>okay, <00:23:36.202>you <00:23:36.358>brought <00:23:36.513>me <00:23:36.669>the <00:23:36.825>id.

587
00:23:38.845 --> 00:23:41.745
<00:23:38.845>And <00:23:39.020>that's <00:23:39.195>where <00:23:39.370>I <00:23:39.545>thought <00:23:39.720>like, <00:23:39.895>Hey, <00:23:40.070>let <00:23:40.245>me

588
00:23:42.295 --> 00:23:43.825
<00:23:42.295>test <00:23:42.639>out <00:23:42.983>a <00:23:43.327>visual <00:23:43.672>studio

589
00:23:43.885 --> 00:23:47.605
<00:23:43.885>or <00:23:44.012>let <00:23:44.139>me <00:23:44.266>yeah, <00:23:44.394>try <00:23:44.521>to <00:23:44.648>create <00:23:44.775>a <00:23:44.903>visual <00:23:45.030>studio <00:23:45.157>code <00:23:45.285>extension

590
00:23:47.635 --> 00:23:48.965
<00:23:47.635>that <00:23:47.874>does <00:23:48.113>it <00:23:48.353>all <00:23:48.592>for <00:23:48.831>me.

591
00:23:49.385 --> 00:23:53.125
<00:23:49.385>So <00:23:49.512>this <00:23:49.639>is <00:23:49.766>my <00:23:49.894>pitch <00:23:50.021>deck <00:23:50.148>that <00:23:50.275>I <00:23:50.403>mostly <00:23:50.530>use <00:23:50.657>at, <00:23:50.785>uh,

592
00:23:53.125 --> 00:23:57.285
<00:23:53.125>conferences <00:23:53.265>or, <00:23:53.405>uh, <00:23:53.545>where <00:23:53.685>I <00:23:53.825>talk <00:23:53.965>to <00:23:54.105>people <00:23:54.245>around <00:23:54.385>demo <00:23:54.525>time.

593
00:23:57.425 --> 00:24:00.405
<00:23:57.425>So <00:23:57.580>it's, <00:23:57.736>it's <00:23:57.891>a <00:23:58.047>wave <00:23:58.202>to <00:23:58.358>present, <00:23:58.513>uh, <00:23:58.669>like <00:23:58.825>pro.

594
00:24:00.985 --> 00:24:04.685
<00:24:00.985>Uh, <00:24:01.159>what <00:24:01.334>typically <00:24:01.510>goes <00:24:01.685>wrong, <00:24:01.860>uh, <00:24:02.034>during <00:24:02.209>sessions, <00:24:02.385>uh,

595
00:24:04.825 --> 00:24:07.685
<00:24:04.825>for <00:24:05.105>instance, <00:24:05.385>is <00:24:05.665>the <00:24:05.945>distractions, <00:24:06.225>notifications,

596
00:24:07.685 --> 00:24:09.165
<00:24:07.685>applications <00:24:08.129>that <00:24:08.572>are <00:24:09.017>open.

597
00:24:09.305 --> 00:24:13.685
<00:24:09.305>So <00:24:09.405>what <00:24:09.505>I <00:24:09.605>like <00:24:09.705>to <00:24:09.805>do <00:24:09.905>is <00:24:10.005>I <00:24:10.105>like <00:24:10.205>to <00:24:10.305>stay <00:24:10.405>in <00:24:10.505>one <00:24:10.605>application <00:24:10.705>so

598
00:24:13.685 --> 00:24:15.845
<00:24:13.685>that <00:24:13.860>I <00:24:14.034>don't <00:24:14.210>have <00:24:14.385>to <00:24:14.560>switch <00:24:14.735>too <00:24:14.909>many <00:24:15.085>times.

599
00:24:16.985 --> 00:24:20.405
<00:24:16.985>And <00:24:17.140>distractions <00:24:17.296>is <00:24:17.451>something <00:24:17.607>that <00:24:17.762>is <00:24:17.918>not <00:24:18.073>good <00:24:18.229>for <00:24:18.385>you,

600
00:24:20.545 --> 00:24:21.725
<00:24:20.545>but <00:24:20.810>also <00:24:21.076>for <00:24:21.341>your <00:24:21.607>audience

601
00:24:21.925 --> 00:24:24.325
<00:24:21.925>because <00:24:22.125>you <00:24:22.325>want <00:24:22.524>to <00:24:22.725>keep <00:24:22.925>the <00:24:23.125>audience, <00:24:23.325>uh,

602
00:24:24.345 --> 00:24:27.245
<00:24:24.345>at <00:24:24.520>their <00:24:24.695>attention <00:24:24.870>to <00:24:25.045>your <00:24:25.220>session, <00:24:25.395>to <00:24:25.570>the <00:24:25.745>content

603
00:24:27.435 --> 00:24:28.645
<00:24:27.435>that <00:24:27.707>you <00:24:27.979>are <00:24:28.251>talking <00:24:28.524>about

604
00:24:28.785 --> 00:24:31.805
<00:24:28.785>and <00:24:28.940>not <00:24:29.096>to <00:24:29.251>whatever <00:24:29.407>you <00:24:29.562>were <00:24:29.718>having <00:24:29.873>on <00:24:30.029>your <00:24:30.185>screen.

605
00:24:31.945 --> 00:24:35.485
<00:24:31.945>So <00:24:32.072>if <00:24:32.199>you <00:24:32.326>all <00:24:32.454>of <00:24:32.581>a <00:24:32.708>sudden, <00:24:32.835>uh, <00:24:32.963>see <00:24:33.090>the <00:24:33.217>notifications <00:24:33.345>from,

606
00:24:35.585 --> 00:24:38.125
<00:24:35.585>um, <00:24:35.760>Mac <00:24:35.935>West <00:24:36.110>popping <00:24:36.285>up, <00:24:36.460>like <00:24:36.635>everyone <00:24:36.810>is <00:24:36.985>like,

607
00:24:38.185 --> 00:24:39.525
<00:24:38.185>oh, <00:24:38.788>that's <00:24:39.391>funny.

608
00:24:39.525 --> 00:24:42.565
<00:24:39.525>There <00:24:39.700>was <00:24:39.875>a <00:24:40.050>WhatsApp <00:24:40.225>open, <00:24:40.400>um, <00:24:40.575>so <00:24:40.750>oh <00:24:40.925>damn,

609
00:24:42.765 --> 00:24:45.445
<00:24:42.765>I <00:24:42.940>accidentally <00:24:43.115>forgot <00:24:43.290>to <00:24:43.465>set <00:24:43.640>it <00:24:43.815>on, <00:24:43.990>not <00:24:44.165>disturb.

610
00:24:46.375 --> 00:24:48.755
<00:24:46.375>So <00:24:46.608>all <00:24:46.841>these <00:24:47.075>things <00:24:47.308>that <00:24:47.541>are <00:24:47.775>things

611
00:24:48.755 --> 00:24:50.035
<00:24:48.755>that <00:24:49.043>typically <00:24:49.331>can <00:24:49.619>go <00:24:49.907>wrong.

612
00:24:50.615 --> 00:24:54.275
<00:24:50.615>Um, <00:24:50.848>same <00:24:51.081>thing <00:24:51.315>for <00:24:51.548>the <00:24:51.781>settings, <00:24:52.015>um,

613
00:24:54.465 --> 00:24:58.515
<00:24:54.465>like <00:24:54.620>having <00:24:54.776>good <00:24:54.931>settings <00:24:55.087>is <00:24:55.242>font <00:24:55.398>size <00:24:55.553>20, <00:24:55.709>for <00:24:55.865>instance,

614
00:24:59.215 --> 00:25:00.995
<00:24:59.215>or, <00:24:59.495>uh, <00:24:59.774>having <00:25:00.054>a <00:25:00.334>light <00:25:00.615>team,

615
00:25:01.255 --> 00:25:03.515
<00:25:01.255>and <00:25:01.455>I'm <00:25:01.655>right <00:25:01.855>now <00:25:02.055>using <00:25:02.255>a <00:25:02.455>dark <00:25:02.655>team,

616
00:25:04.015 --> 00:25:07.595
<00:25:04.015>but <00:25:04.142>if <00:25:04.269>I'm <00:25:04.396>going <00:25:04.524>to <00:25:04.651>show <00:25:04.778>you <00:25:04.905>what <00:25:05.033>is <00:25:05.160>this <00:25:05.287>in <00:25:05.415>code?

617
00:25:07.905 --> 00:25:10.475
<00:25:07.905>Like <00:25:08.138>this <00:25:08.371>is <00:25:08.605>not <00:25:08.838>readable <00:25:09.071>for <00:25:09.305>you,

618
00:25:10.815 --> 00:25:12.595
<00:25:10.815>not <00:25:11.095>even <00:25:11.375>not <00:25:11.655>readable <00:25:11.935>for <00:25:12.215>me.

619
00:25:12.955 --> 00:25:15.435
<00:25:12.955>Somebody <00:25:13.155>with <00:25:13.355>without <00:25:13.554>glasses <00:25:13.754>can <00:25:13.955>probably <00:25:14.155>read <00:25:14.355>it.

620
00:25:15.935 --> 00:25:18.875
<00:25:15.935>Um, <00:25:16.135>but <00:25:16.335>this <00:25:16.534>is <00:25:16.735>not <00:25:16.935>something <00:25:17.135>you <00:25:17.335>want

621
00:25:18.875 --> 00:25:20.035
<00:25:18.875>to <00:25:19.136>show <00:25:19.397>during <00:25:19.658>a <00:25:19.919>session.

622
00:25:21.015 --> 00:25:22.875
<00:25:21.015>So <00:25:21.365>what's, <00:25:21.715>uh, <00:25:22.065>demo <00:25:22.415>time?

623
00:25:22.985 --> 00:25:26.755
<00:25:22.985>What <00:25:23.112>you <00:25:23.239>can <00:25:23.366>do <00:25:23.494>is <00:25:23.621>prepare <00:25:23.748>all <00:25:23.875>that <00:25:24.003>thing <00:25:24.130>all <00:25:24.257>in <00:25:24.385>front

624
00:25:27.255 --> 00:25:28.675
<00:25:27.255>or <00:25:27.681>before <00:25:28.107>your <00:25:28.533>session.

625
00:25:28.895 --> 00:25:31.715
<00:25:28.895>So <00:25:29.050>you're <00:25:29.206>going <00:25:29.361>to <00:25:29.517>set <00:25:29.672>a <00:25:29.828>set <00:25:29.983>of <00:25:30.139>default <00:25:30.295>settings,

626
00:25:31.715 --> 00:25:34.115
<00:25:31.715>and <00:25:31.870>the <00:25:32.026>moment <00:25:32.181>you <00:25:32.337>start <00:25:32.492>presenting, <00:25:32.648>you <00:25:32.803>just <00:25:32.959>click <00:25:33.115>here.

627
00:25:34.115 --> 00:25:37.315
<00:25:34.115>These <00:25:34.255>are <00:25:34.395>the <00:25:34.535>settings <00:25:34.675>that <00:25:34.815>I <00:25:34.955>want <00:25:35.095>to, <00:25:35.235>uh, <00:25:35.375>start <00:25:35.515>using.

628
00:25:37.695 --> 00:25:41.595
<00:25:37.695>And <00:25:37.835>then <00:25:37.975>you <00:25:38.115>can <00:25:38.254>quickly, <00:25:38.395>uh, <00:25:38.534>move <00:25:38.675>on <00:25:38.814>to <00:25:38.955>that <00:25:39.095>part.

629
00:25:43.435 --> 00:25:46.645
<00:25:43.435>Sorry. <00:25:43.784>Um, <00:25:44.135>so <00:25:44.485>better <00:25:44.835>settings,

630
00:25:46.865 --> 00:25:48.365
<00:25:46.865>but <00:25:47.135>it's, <00:25:47.405>it's <00:25:47.675>more <00:25:47.945>than <00:25:48.215>that.

631
00:25:48.465 --> 00:25:50.165
<00:25:48.465>Uh, <00:25:48.814>presentations <00:25:49.165>can <00:25:49.514>be <00:25:49.865>stressful

632
00:25:50.165 --> 00:25:51.725
<00:25:50.165>because <00:25:50.340>we <00:25:50.514>need <00:25:50.690>to <00:25:50.865>know <00:25:51.040>a <00:25:51.215>couple <00:25:51.389>of <00:25:51.565>things

633
00:25:52.025 --> 00:25:54.765
<00:25:52.025>and <00:25:52.225>for <00:25:52.425>sure <00:25:52.625>if <00:25:52.825>life <00:25:53.025>coding <00:25:53.225>is <00:25:53.425>involved,

634
00:25:54.765 --> 00:25:57.685
<00:25:54.765>because <00:25:54.940>you <00:25:55.115>don't <00:25:55.290>want <00:25:55.465>to <00:25:55.640>accidentally <00:25:55.815>do <00:25:55.990>a <00:25:56.165>typo.

635
00:25:57.715 --> 00:26:00.565
<00:25:57.715>Like <00:25:57.855>we've <00:25:57.995>all, <00:25:58.135>I <00:25:58.274>I <00:25:58.415>think <00:25:58.554>we've <00:25:58.695>all <00:25:58.834>been <00:25:58.975>on <00:25:59.115>stage

636
00:26:01.225 --> 00:26:05.725
<00:26:01.225>and, <00:26:01.341>um, <00:26:01.458>if <00:26:01.574>you're, <00:26:01.691>I <00:26:01.808>can <00:26:01.925>really <00:26:02.041>type <00:26:02.158>well <00:26:02.274>when <00:26:02.391>I'm <00:26:02.508>at <00:26:02.625>home,

637
00:26:06.025 --> 00:26:08.405
<00:26:06.025>but <00:26:06.225>when <00:26:06.425>I'm <00:26:06.625>on <00:26:06.825>stage, <00:26:07.025>it's <00:26:07.225>like <00:26:07.425>it's,

638
00:26:08.405 --> 00:26:10.085
<00:26:08.405>it <00:26:08.638>feels <00:26:08.871>like <00:26:09.105>the <00:26:09.338>very <00:26:09.571>first <00:26:09.805>time

639
00:26:10.085 --> 00:26:12.805
<00:26:10.085>that <00:26:10.285>I'm <00:26:10.485>typing <00:26:10.685>a <00:26:10.885>keyboard, <00:26:11.085>like, <00:26:11.285>damn, <00:26:11.485>uh,

640
00:26:13.215 --> 00:26:15.925
<00:26:13.215>where <00:26:13.342>is <00:26:13.469>all <00:26:13.596>the <00:26:13.724>letters <00:26:13.851>I <00:26:13.978>need <00:26:14.105>to, <00:26:14.233>to <00:26:14.360>look <00:26:14.487>at <00:26:14.615>it?

641
00:26:16.425 --> 00:26:18.205
<00:26:16.425>And <00:26:16.658>if <00:26:16.891>you <00:26:17.125>do <00:26:17.358>a <00:26:17.591>typo, <00:26:17.825>most

642
00:26:18.205 --> 00:26:20.245
<00:26:18.205>of <00:26:18.379>the <00:26:18.554>time <00:26:18.730>somebody <00:26:18.905>in <00:26:19.080>the <00:26:19.254>audience <00:26:19.429>spotted <00:26:19.605>it,

643
00:26:20.245 --> 00:26:21.325
<00:26:20.245>but <00:26:20.569>you <00:26:20.893>don't, <00:26:21.217>didn't,

644
00:26:21.505 --> 00:26:23.605
<00:26:21.505>and <00:26:21.680>then <00:26:21.855>you're <00:26:22.030>like, <00:26:22.205>damn, <00:26:22.380>I <00:26:22.555>don't <00:26:22.730>want <00:26:22.905>to,

645
00:26:24.065 --> 00:26:25.485
<00:26:24.065>to <00:26:24.278>take <00:26:24.491>too <00:26:24.704>much <00:26:24.917>time <00:26:25.129>of <00:26:25.342>this.

646
00:26:25.545 --> 00:26:26.845
<00:26:25.545>Uh, <00:26:25.837>I <00:26:26.130>want <00:26:26.422>to <00:26:26.715>continue.

647
00:26:26.985 --> 00:26:29.805
<00:26:26.985>But <00:26:27.125>still, <00:26:27.264>you <00:26:27.405>want <00:26:27.544>to <00:26:27.685>make <00:26:27.824>sure <00:26:27.965>that <00:26:28.104>everything <00:26:28.245>is, <00:26:28.385>uh,

648
00:26:29.875 --> 00:26:32.565
<00:26:29.875>working <00:26:30.050>fine <00:26:30.225>because <00:26:30.400>your <00:26:30.575>demo <00:26:30.750>is <00:26:30.925>going <00:26:31.100>to <00:26:31.275>fail.

649
00:26:33.225 --> 00:26:35.125
<00:26:33.225>Um, <00:26:33.504>and <00:26:33.784>then <00:26:34.064>you're <00:26:34.344>thinking <00:26:34.625>and,

650
00:26:35.145 --> 00:26:36.605
<00:26:35.145>and <00:26:35.364>you're <00:26:35.583>not <00:26:35.802>in <00:26:36.021>the <00:26:36.240>flow <00:26:36.459>anymore.

651
00:26:37.655 --> 00:26:41.275
<00:26:37.655>So <00:26:37.795>that's <00:26:37.935>also <00:26:38.075>why <00:26:38.215>demo <00:26:38.355>time, <00:26:38.495>uh, <00:26:38.635>was <00:26:38.774>there, <00:26:38.915>uh, <00:26:39.055>so

652
00:26:41.275 --> 00:26:43.530
<00:26:41.275>that <00:26:41.430>you <00:26:41.586>don't <00:26:41.741>have <00:26:41.897>to <00:26:42.052>think <00:26:42.208>about <00:26:42.363>all <00:26:42.519>these <00:26:42.675>things

653
00:26:44.025 --> 00:26:47.845
<00:26:44.025>and <00:26:44.180>you <00:26:44.336>can <00:26:44.491>just <00:26:44.647>continue, <00:26:44.802>uh, <00:26:44.958>on <00:26:45.113>doing <00:26:45.269>your <00:26:45.425>thing.

654
00:26:47.905 --> 00:26:49.445
<00:26:47.905>And <00:26:48.182>that's <00:26:48.459>pressing <00:26:48.736>the <00:26:49.013>next <00:26:49.291>button.

655
00:26:49.625 --> 00:26:52.445
<00:26:49.625>And <00:26:49.765>you <00:26:49.905>can <00:26:50.045>just <00:26:50.185>explain <00:26:50.325>what <00:26:50.465>you <00:26:50.605>were <00:26:50.745>trying <00:26:50.885>to <00:26:51.025>do

656
00:26:52.555 --> 00:26:54.245
<00:26:52.555>with <00:26:52.905>slides <00:26:53.255>or <00:26:53.605>with <00:26:53.955>code.

657
00:26:54.785 --> 00:26:58.085
<00:26:54.785>So <00:26:54.940>demo <00:26:55.096>time, <00:26:55.251>visual <00:26:55.407>studio <00:26:55.562>code <00:26:55.718>extension, <00:26:55.873>uh, <00:26:56.029>these <00:26:56.185>days,

658
00:26:58.305 --> 00:27:00.045
<00:26:58.305>uh, <00:26:58.585>you <00:26:58.865>can <00:26:59.145>script <00:26:59.425>your <00:26:59.705>demos

659
00:27:00.045 --> 00:27:02.765
<00:27:00.045>and <00:27:00.245>your <00:27:00.445>presentations <00:27:00.645>with, <00:27:00.845>uh, <00:27:01.045>Jason <00:27:01.245>and <00:27:01.445>yaml,

660
00:27:02.905 --> 00:27:05.645
<00:27:02.905>and <00:27:03.045>you <00:27:03.185>don't <00:27:03.325>even <00:27:03.465>have <00:27:03.605>to <00:27:03.745>use, <00:27:03.885>uh, <00:27:04.024>these <00:27:04.165>things <00:27:04.305>anymore

661
00:27:05.645 --> 00:27:07.085
<00:27:05.645>because <00:27:05.860>I'm <00:27:06.077>going <00:27:06.293>to <00:27:06.509>show <00:27:06.725>you <00:27:06.941>right

662
00:27:07.085 --> 00:27:09.045
<00:27:07.085>after <00:27:07.318>how <00:27:07.551>you <00:27:07.785>can <00:27:08.018>create <00:27:08.251>these <00:27:08.485>things.

663
00:27:09.465 --> 00:27:10.765
<00:27:09.465>Um, <00:27:09.757>you <00:27:10.050>can <00:27:10.342>create <00:27:10.635>slides.

664
00:27:11.645 --> 00:27:14.405
<00:27:11.645>Anything <00:27:11.785>that <00:27:11.925>you <00:27:12.065>can <00:27:12.205>do <00:27:12.345>within <00:27:12.485>Visual <00:27:12.625>Studio <00:27:12.764>Code <00:27:12.905>can <00:27:13.045>be

665
00:27:14.405 --> 00:27:15.485
<00:27:14.405>done <00:27:14.729>within <00:27:15.053>demo <00:27:15.377>time.

666
00:27:15.505 --> 00:27:17.845
<00:27:15.505>So <00:27:15.632>there's <00:27:15.759>a <00:27:15.886>lot <00:27:16.014>of <00:27:16.141>actions <00:27:16.268>that <00:27:16.395>come <00:27:16.523>out <00:27:16.650>of <00:27:16.777>the <00:27:16.905>box,

667
00:27:17.905 --> 00:27:20.165
<00:27:17.905>but <00:27:18.105>if <00:27:18.305>you <00:27:18.504>say, <00:27:18.705>Hey, <00:27:18.905>I <00:27:19.105>have <00:27:19.305>a,

668
00:27:20.685 --> 00:27:24.445
<00:27:20.685>a <00:27:20.812>command <00:27:20.939>from <00:27:21.066>Visual <00:27:21.194>Studio <00:27:21.321>Codes, <00:27:21.448>um, <00:27:21.575>that <00:27:21.703>I <00:27:21.830>want <00:27:21.957>to <00:27:22.085>use,

669
00:27:24.445 --> 00:27:27.245
<00:27:24.445>like <00:27:24.645>open, <00:27:24.845>uh, <00:27:25.044>websites, <00:27:25.245>uh, <00:27:25.445>create <00:27:25.645>a <00:27:25.845>file,

670
00:27:27.345 --> 00:27:30.245
<00:27:27.345>all <00:27:27.520>these <00:27:27.695>things, <00:27:27.870>um, <00:27:28.045>these <00:27:28.220>are <00:27:28.395>all <00:27:28.570>available <00:27:28.745>within,

671
00:27:30.625 --> 00:27:31.765
<00:27:30.625>uh, <00:27:30.967>visual <00:27:31.309>Studio <00:27:31.651>Code.

672
00:27:31.785 --> 00:27:33.485
<00:27:31.785>You <00:27:31.985>can <00:27:32.185>use <00:27:32.385>all <00:27:32.585>your <00:27:32.785>commands <00:27:32.985>as <00:27:33.185>well,

673
00:27:33.785 --> 00:27:34.885
<00:27:33.785>and <00:27:33.983>you <00:27:34.181>can <00:27:34.379>just <00:27:34.577>script <00:27:34.775>them.

674
00:27:35.715 --> 00:27:39.375
<00:27:35.715>Uh, <00:27:35.870>the <00:27:36.026>benefit <00:27:36.181>is <00:27:36.337>that <00:27:36.492>you <00:27:36.648>don't <00:27:36.803>lose <00:27:36.959>track <00:27:37.115>of

675
00:27:39.375 --> 00:27:40.415
<00:27:39.375>what <00:27:39.687>you're <00:27:39.999>actually <00:27:40.311>doing.

676
00:27:40.595 --> 00:27:41.975
<00:27:40.595>So <00:27:40.905>you, <00:27:41.216>if <00:27:41.526>you <00:27:41.837>want,

677
00:27:42.235 --> 00:27:44.895
<00:27:42.235>and <00:27:42.375>on <00:27:42.514>the <00:27:42.655>second <00:27:42.794>screen, <00:27:42.935>you <00:27:43.074>can <00:27:43.215>have <00:27:43.354>a <00:27:43.495>presenter <00:27:43.635>view

678
00:27:45.205 --> 00:27:46.695
<00:27:45.205>with <00:27:45.428>all <00:27:45.652>the <00:27:45.875>steps <00:27:46.099>that <00:27:46.322>you're <00:27:46.545>doing.

679
00:27:46.765 --> 00:27:49.135
<00:27:46.765>Like <00:27:46.965>for <00:27:47.165>instance, <00:27:47.365>uh, <00:27:47.565>with <00:27:47.765>PowerPoint <00:27:47.965>as <00:27:48.165>well,

680
00:27:49.245 --> 00:27:50.655
<00:27:49.245>like <00:27:49.498>you <00:27:49.752>have <00:27:50.006>the <00:27:50.260>presenter <00:27:50.514>view

681
00:27:50.675 --> 00:27:51.895
<00:27:50.675>and <00:27:50.894>you <00:27:51.114>have <00:27:51.333>the <00:27:51.553>attendee <00:27:51.773>view.

682
00:27:52.315 --> 00:27:56.295
<00:27:52.315>Um, <00:27:52.470>you <00:27:52.626>don't <00:27:52.781>have <00:27:52.937>to <00:27:53.092>create <00:27:53.248>any <00:27:53.403>snippets <00:27:53.559>anymore, <00:27:53.715>um,

683
00:27:56.295 --> 00:27:58.175
<00:27:56.295>because <00:27:56.575>everything <00:27:56.855>is <00:27:57.135>in <00:27:57.415>one <00:27:57.695>repo.

684
00:27:58.315 --> 00:28:02.615
<00:27:58.315>And <00:27:58.422>what <00:27:58.530>I <00:27:58.638>love <00:27:58.745>about <00:27:58.853>this <00:27:58.961>as <00:27:59.068>well <00:27:59.176>is <00:27:59.284>this <00:27:59.391>repo, <00:27:59.499>I <00:27:59.607>can <00:27:59.715>just

685
00:28:03.285 --> 00:28:06.735
<00:28:03.285>make <00:28:03.425>it <00:28:03.565>available <00:28:03.705>on <00:28:03.845>GitHub, <00:28:03.985>can <00:28:04.125>give <00:28:04.265>it <00:28:04.405>to <00:28:04.545>my <00:28:04.685>attendees,

686
00:28:06.915 --> 00:28:09.215
<00:28:06.915>and <00:28:07.090>my <00:28:07.264>attendees <00:28:07.440>can <00:28:07.615>just <00:28:07.790>open <00:28:07.965>it, <00:28:08.139>clone <00:28:08.315>it,

687
00:28:09.595 --> 00:28:11.735
<00:28:09.595>and <00:28:09.750>go <00:28:09.906>through <00:28:10.061>step <00:28:10.217>by <00:28:10.372>step <00:28:10.528>at <00:28:10.683>their <00:28:10.839>own <00:28:10.995>pace

688
00:28:11.915 --> 00:28:14.735
<00:28:11.915>so <00:28:12.055>they <00:28:12.195>see <00:28:12.335>the <00:28:12.475>same <00:28:12.615>slides, <00:28:12.754>they <00:28:12.895>see <00:28:13.034>the <00:28:13.175>same <00:28:13.315>demos,

689
00:28:14.875 --> 00:28:16.415
<00:28:14.875>and <00:28:15.106>they <00:28:15.337>can <00:28:15.568>play <00:28:15.799>around <00:28:16.030>with <00:28:16.261>it.

690
00:28:16.595 --> 00:28:18.655
<00:28:16.595>So <00:28:16.770>that's <00:28:16.945>also <00:28:17.120>what <00:28:17.295>I, <00:28:17.470>I <00:28:17.645>love <00:28:17.820>to <00:28:17.995>do.

691
00:28:19.155 --> 00:28:22.265
<00:28:19.155>Um, <00:28:19.330>so <00:28:19.504>let's, <00:28:19.680>uh, <00:28:19.855>let's <00:28:20.030>give <00:28:20.205>it <00:28:20.379>a <00:28:20.555>try.

692
00:28:22.685 --> 00:28:26.305
<00:28:22.685>So <00:28:22.801>what <00:28:22.918>I <00:28:23.034>do <00:28:23.151>is <00:28:23.268>I <00:28:23.385>first <00:28:23.501>start <00:28:23.618>with <00:28:23.735>creating <00:28:23.851>an <00:28:23.968>empty <00:28:24.085>file

693
00:28:26.645 --> 00:28:28.065
<00:28:26.645>and <00:28:26.964>I <00:28:27.284>didn't <00:28:27.603>do <00:28:27.923>anything.

694
00:28:28.335 --> 00:28:29.665
<00:28:28.335>It's <00:28:28.574>my <00:28:28.813>script <00:28:29.053>that <00:28:29.292>did <00:28:29.532>it.

695
00:28:29.685 --> 00:28:31.945
<00:28:29.685>So <00:28:29.840>the <00:28:29.996>only <00:28:30.151>thing <00:28:30.307>that <00:28:30.462>I'm <00:28:30.618>doing <00:28:30.773>right <00:28:30.929>now <00:28:31.085>is

696
00:28:33.145 --> 00:28:34.265
<00:28:33.145>pressing <00:28:33.397>next <00:28:33.649>on <00:28:33.901>my <00:28:34.153>keyboard

697
00:28:34.845 --> 00:28:36.625
<00:28:34.845>and <00:28:35.045>it's <00:28:35.245>going <00:28:35.445>to <00:28:35.645>type <00:28:35.845>things <00:28:36.045>for <00:28:36.245>me.

698
00:28:36.925 --> 00:28:39.945
<00:28:36.925>Uh, <00:28:37.080>so <00:28:37.236>right <00:28:37.391>now <00:28:37.547>it's, <00:28:37.702>it's <00:28:37.858>typing <00:28:38.013>me <00:28:38.169>the <00:28:38.325>code.

699
00:28:40.805 --> 00:28:43.505
<00:28:40.805>And <00:28:41.038>if <00:28:41.271>you're <00:28:41.505>doing <00:28:41.738>presentation <00:28:41.971>about <00:28:42.205>code,

700
00:28:43.525 --> 00:28:46.585
<00:28:43.525>and <00:28:43.700>for <00:28:43.875>instance, <00:28:44.050>I <00:28:44.225>want <00:28:44.400>to, <00:28:44.575>uh, <00:28:44.750>highlight <00:28:44.925>greet,

701
00:28:47.695 --> 00:28:49.545
<00:28:47.695>some <00:28:47.975>people <00:28:48.254>just <00:28:48.534>drag <00:28:48.814>and <00:28:49.095>drop

702
00:28:49.545 --> 00:28:51.625
<00:28:49.545>or <00:28:49.895>highlight <00:28:50.245>that <00:28:50.595>particular <00:28:50.945>line.

703
00:28:51.695 --> 00:28:54.865
<00:28:51.695>What <00:28:51.822>I <00:28:51.949>can <00:28:52.076>do <00:28:52.204>right <00:28:52.331>now <00:28:52.458>is <00:28:52.585>say, <00:28:52.713>Hey, <00:28:52.840>this, <00:28:52.967>these <00:28:53.095>lines,

704
00:28:55.035 --> 00:28:57.345
<00:28:55.035>these <00:28:55.175>are <00:28:55.315>the <00:28:55.455>lines <00:28:55.595>that <00:28:55.735>I <00:28:55.875>want <00:28:56.015>to <00:28:56.155>focus <00:28:56.295>on <00:28:56.435>Y

705
00:28:57.345 --> 00:28:58.425
<00:28:57.345>because <00:28:57.669>X, <00:28:57.993>Y, <00:28:58.317>Z,

706
00:28:58.885 --> 00:29:01.625
<00:28:58.885>and <00:28:59.040>the <00:28:59.196>next <00:28:59.351>part, <00:28:59.507>oh, <00:28:59.662>this <00:28:59.818>is <00:28:59.973>why <00:29:00.129>I <00:29:00.285>want

707
00:29:01.625 --> 00:29:02.625
<00:29:01.625>to <00:29:01.850>focus <00:29:02.075>on <00:29:02.300>these <00:29:02.525>lines.

708
00:29:03.775 --> 00:29:06.515
<00:29:03.775>And <00:29:03.950>you <00:29:04.125>draw <00:29:04.300>the <00:29:04.475>attention <00:29:04.650>to <00:29:04.825>that <00:29:05.000>specific <00:29:05.175>thing.

709
00:29:07.175 --> 00:29:09.555
<00:29:07.175>At <00:29:07.350>the <00:29:07.524>top <00:29:07.700>right <00:29:07.875>here, <00:29:08.050>you <00:29:08.225>see <00:29:08.399>two <00:29:08.575>markers.

710
00:29:09.975 --> 00:29:11.835
<00:29:09.975>Uh, <00:29:10.208>you <00:29:10.441>can <00:29:10.675>use <00:29:10.908>these <00:29:11.141>two <00:29:11.375>markers.

711
00:29:11.855 --> 00:29:14.755
<00:29:11.855>If <00:29:11.971>you <00:29:12.088>say, <00:29:12.205>oh, <00:29:12.321>I <00:29:12.438>forgot <00:29:12.555>that <00:29:12.671>I <00:29:12.788>need <00:29:12.905>to <00:29:13.021>talk <00:29:13.138>about <00:29:13.255>this.

712
00:29:14.815 --> 00:29:17.355
<00:29:14.815>You <00:29:14.942>can <00:29:15.069>just <00:29:15.196>highlight <00:29:15.324>the <00:29:15.451>line <00:29:15.578>and, <00:29:15.705>and <00:29:15.833>do <00:29:15.960>the <00:29:16.087>same <00:29:16.215>thing.

713
00:29:17.495 --> 00:29:19.155
<00:29:17.495>You <00:29:17.774>get <00:29:18.054>the <00:29:18.334>same, <00:29:18.614>uh, <00:29:18.895>kind

714
00:29:19.155 --> 00:29:21.035
<00:29:19.155>of <00:29:19.435>highlighting <00:29:19.715>experience <00:29:19.995>there <00:29:20.274>as <00:29:20.555>well.

715
00:29:21.175 --> 00:29:24.795
<00:29:21.175>But <00:29:21.291>if <00:29:21.408>you <00:29:21.524>script <00:29:21.641>it, <00:29:21.758>you <00:29:21.875>can <00:29:21.991>just <00:29:22.108>press, <00:29:22.225>uh, <00:29:22.341>next <00:29:22.458>on <00:29:22.575>play.

716
00:29:26.985 --> 00:29:30.005
<00:29:26.985>So <00:29:27.264>not <00:29:27.544>just <00:29:27.824>scopes, <00:29:28.104>it's <00:29:28.385>editing.

717
00:29:30.265 --> 00:29:34.965
<00:29:30.265>Uh, <00:29:30.405>so <00:29:30.545>what <00:29:30.685>you <00:29:30.825>just <00:29:30.965>saw, <00:29:31.105>it's <00:29:31.245>a <00:29:31.385>slight <00:29:31.525>experience <00:29:31.665>that,

718
00:29:35.305 --> 00:29:39.045
<00:29:35.305>um, <00:29:35.505>I <00:29:35.705>went <00:29:35.905>from <00:29:36.105>a <00:29:36.305>desktop <00:29:36.505>version <00:29:36.705>over

719
00:29:39.145 --> 00:29:40.405
<00:29:39.145>to <00:29:39.428>a <00:29:39.712>full <00:29:39.995>screen <00:29:40.279>version.

720
00:29:40.585 --> 00:29:43.205
<00:29:40.585>So <00:29:40.760>I <00:29:40.935>ran <00:29:41.110>a <00:29:41.285>couple <00:29:41.460>of, <00:29:41.635>um, <00:29:41.810>scripts <00:29:41.985>there,

721
00:29:43.385 --> 00:29:48.085
<00:29:43.385>or, <00:29:43.540>um, <00:29:43.696>actually <00:29:43.851>some <00:29:44.007>commands <00:29:44.162>from <00:29:44.318>Visual <00:29:44.473>Studio <00:29:44.629>Code, <00:29:44.785>uh,

722
00:29:48.095 --> 00:29:49.125
<00:29:48.095>there <00:29:48.558>is <00:29:49.022>more.

723
00:29:49.605 --> 00:29:52.685
<00:29:49.605>I <00:29:49.760>can <00:29:49.916>just <00:29:50.071>say, <00:29:50.227>Hey, <00:29:50.382>run <00:29:50.538>me <00:29:50.693>the <00:29:50.849>terminal <00:29:51.005>command.

724
00:29:52.745 --> 00:29:56.405
<00:29:52.745>So <00:29:52.945>over <00:29:53.145>here <00:29:53.344>it <00:29:53.544>ran <00:29:53.745>TSC <00:29:53.945>app <00:29:54.145>Ts.

725
00:29:56.505 --> 00:29:59.375
<00:29:56.505>So <00:29:56.738>I <00:29:56.971>just <00:29:57.205>set <00:29:57.438>to <00:29:57.671>my <00:29:57.905>app

726
00:29:59.395 --> 00:30:01.615
<00:29:59.395>or <00:29:59.550>to <00:29:59.706>my <00:29:59.861>demo, <00:30:00.017>I <00:30:00.172>want <00:30:00.328>to <00:30:00.483>open <00:30:00.639>a <00:30:00.795>terminal

727
00:30:01.755 --> 00:30:03.135
<00:30:01.755>and <00:30:01.932>this <00:30:02.109>is <00:30:02.287>what <00:30:02.464>I <00:30:02.642>want <00:30:02.819>to <00:30:02.997>type.

728
00:30:03.455 --> 00:30:06.975
<00:30:03.455>I <00:30:03.582>can <00:30:03.709>do <00:30:03.836>the <00:30:03.964>same <00:30:04.091>thing <00:30:04.218>like, <00:30:04.345>Hey, <00:30:04.473>uh, <00:30:04.600>run <00:30:04.727>this <00:30:04.855>app

729
00:30:07.315 --> 00:30:08.655
<00:30:07.315>and <00:30:07.556>this <00:30:07.797>is <00:30:08.038>what <00:30:08.279>it <00:30:08.521>does.

730
00:30:09.075 --> 00:30:10.895
<00:30:09.075>So <00:30:09.355>all <00:30:09.635>of <00:30:09.915>that <00:30:10.195>is <00:30:10.475>there.

731
00:30:11.035 --> 00:30:15.645
<00:30:11.035>So <00:30:11.235>it <00:30:11.435>can <00:30:11.635>be <00:30:11.835>used <00:30:12.035>for <00:30:12.235>presentations, <00:30:12.435>presentations,

732
00:30:15.825 --> 00:30:19.365
<00:30:15.825>uh, <00:30:16.000>meaning <00:30:16.175>slides <00:30:16.350>and <00:30:16.525>slides <00:30:16.700>are <00:30:16.875>created <00:30:17.050>in <00:30:17.225>markdown.

733
00:30:19.425 --> 00:30:20.965
<00:30:19.425>So <00:30:19.887>I <00:30:20.349>love <00:30:20.811>markdown.

734
00:30:21.145 --> 00:30:24.205
<00:30:21.145>Um, <00:30:21.285>I <00:30:21.425>use <00:30:21.565>slide <00:30:21.705>deck, <00:30:21.845>uh, <00:30:21.985>for <00:30:22.125>a <00:30:22.264>very <00:30:22.405>long <00:30:22.545>time.

735
00:30:24.585 --> 00:30:26.805
<00:30:24.585>And <00:30:24.785>that's <00:30:24.985>also <00:30:25.185>where <00:30:25.385>it <00:30:25.585>make <00:30:25.785>more <00:30:25.985>sense

736
00:30:26.945 --> 00:30:28.165
<00:30:26.945>to <00:30:27.219>have <00:30:27.494>the <00:30:27.768>same <00:30:28.043>kind

737
00:30:28.165 --> 00:30:30.445
<00:30:28.165>of <00:30:28.445>experience <00:30:28.725>within <00:30:29.004>Visual <00:30:29.284>Studio <00:30:29.565>Code.

738
00:30:31.025 --> 00:30:32.845
<00:30:31.025>And <00:30:31.491>the <00:30:31.958>way <00:30:32.425>how

739
00:30:32.845 --> 00:30:35.125
<00:30:32.845>to <00:30:33.020>create <00:30:33.195>it <00:30:33.370>is <00:30:33.545>you <00:30:33.720>write <00:30:33.895>your <00:30:34.070>markdown <00:30:34.245>file,

740
00:30:35.505 --> 00:30:37.925
<00:30:35.505>it <00:30:35.855>can <00:30:36.205>include <00:30:36.555>some <00:30:36.905>styling,

741
00:30:38.145 --> 00:30:42.005
<00:30:38.145>and <00:30:38.261>then <00:30:38.378>the <00:30:38.495>moment, <00:30:38.611>uh, <00:30:38.728>it <00:30:38.845>is <00:30:38.961>done, <00:30:39.078>it <00:30:39.195>can <00:30:39.311>show <00:30:39.428>you <00:30:39.545>the

742
00:30:42.545 --> 00:30:45.005
<00:30:42.545>actual <00:30:43.011>presentation <00:30:43.478>or <00:30:43.945>slide.

743
00:30:45.105 --> 00:30:48.925
<00:30:45.105>So <00:30:45.221>at <00:30:45.338>the <00:30:45.455>top, <00:30:45.571>you <00:30:45.688>will <00:30:45.805>have <00:30:45.921>your <00:30:46.038>metadata <00:30:46.155>about <00:30:46.271>what <00:30:46.388>it <00:30:46.505>is.

744
00:30:49.025 --> 00:30:51.045
<00:30:49.025>So <00:30:49.375>it's <00:30:49.725>the <00:30:50.075>unnamed <00:30:50.425>team.

745
00:30:51.055 --> 00:30:53.845
<00:30:51.055>There <00:30:51.195>are <00:30:51.335>a <00:30:51.475>couple <00:30:51.615>of <00:30:51.755>teams <00:30:51.895>that <00:30:52.035>are <00:30:52.175>available <00:30:52.315>within, <00:30:52.455>uh,

746
00:30:53.915 --> 00:30:57.365
<00:30:53.915>demo <00:30:54.055>time, <00:30:54.195>and <00:30:54.335>then <00:30:54.475>you <00:30:54.615>have <00:30:54.754>a <00:30:54.895>layout <00:30:55.034>of <00:30:55.175>the <00:30:55.315>slides.

747
00:30:57.505 --> 00:30:59.725
<00:30:57.505>Uh, <00:30:57.680>there <00:30:57.855>are <00:30:58.030>also <00:30:58.205>a <00:30:58.380>couple <00:30:58.555>of <00:30:58.730>layouts <00:30:58.905>available.

748
00:31:00.145 --> 00:31:02.765
<00:31:00.145>And <00:31:00.300>here <00:31:00.456>I <00:31:00.611>wanted <00:31:00.767>to <00:31:00.922>show <00:31:01.078>you <00:31:01.233>a <00:31:01.389>background <00:31:01.545>image,

749
00:31:03.705 --> 00:31:05.565
<00:31:03.705>and <00:31:03.879>this <00:31:04.054>is <00:31:04.230>the <00:31:04.405>background <00:31:04.580>image <00:31:04.754>from <00:31:04.929>we <00:31:05.105>are

750
00:31:05.565 --> 00:31:06.845
<00:31:05.565>developers <00:31:05.949>from <00:31:06.333>the <00:31:06.717>website.

751
00:31:08.425 --> 00:31:11.325
<00:31:08.425>And <00:31:08.625>then <00:31:08.825>next <00:31:09.024>is <00:31:09.225>all <00:31:09.425>of <00:31:09.625>the <00:31:09.825>codes,

752
00:31:11.425 --> 00:31:12.525
<00:31:11.425>uh, <00:31:11.623>that <00:31:11.821>you <00:31:12.019>want <00:31:12.217>to <00:31:12.415>show.

753
00:31:12.585 --> 00:31:16.045
<00:31:12.585>So <00:31:12.725>I <00:31:12.865>haven't <00:31:13.005>heading, <00:31:13.145>I <00:31:13.285>have <00:31:13.425>the <00:31:13.565>demo <00:31:13.705>time, <00:31:13.845>uh, <00:31:13.985>URL

754
00:31:16.145 --> 00:31:19.005
<00:31:16.145>and <00:31:16.345>then <00:31:16.545>some <00:31:16.745>styles <00:31:16.945>for <00:31:17.145>this <00:31:17.345>particular <00:31:17.545>slide.

755
00:31:19.025 --> 00:31:20.445
<00:31:19.025>So <00:31:19.280>it's <00:31:19.536>only <00:31:19.791>for <00:31:20.047>that <00:31:20.303>slide

756
00:31:20.515 --> 00:31:22.085
<00:31:20.515>that <00:31:20.795>these <00:31:21.075>styles <00:31:21.355>are <00:31:21.635>applied <00:31:21.915>to.

757
00:31:22.305 --> 00:31:24.605
<00:31:22.305>You <00:31:22.421>don't <00:31:22.538>need <00:31:22.655>to <00:31:22.771>do <00:31:22.888>that, <00:31:23.005>but <00:31:23.121>I <00:31:23.238>wanted <00:31:23.355>to <00:31:23.471>make <00:31:23.588>it <00:31:23.705>look

758
00:31:24.605 --> 00:31:28.085
<00:31:24.605>and <00:31:24.760>feel <00:31:24.916>like <00:31:25.071>the <00:31:25.227>actual, <00:31:25.382>uh, <00:31:25.538>VR <00:31:25.693>are <00:31:25.849>developer's <00:31:26.005>website.

759
00:31:28.985 --> 00:31:32.445
<00:31:28.985>So <00:31:29.218>that's <00:31:29.451>it <00:31:29.685>on <00:31:29.918>the <00:31:30.151>pitch <00:31:30.385>site.

760
00:31:32.745 --> 00:31:37.725
<00:31:32.745>So <00:31:32.919>let's <00:31:33.094>go <00:31:33.270>back <00:31:33.445>to <00:31:33.620>what <00:31:33.794>is <00:31:33.969>actually, <00:31:34.145>uh,

761
00:31:37.725 --> 00:31:38.805
<00:31:37.725>running <00:31:38.049>behind <00:31:38.373>the <00:31:38.697>scenes.

762
00:31:39.305 --> 00:31:42.725
<00:31:39.305>So <00:31:39.445>if <00:31:39.585>you <00:31:39.725>install <00:31:39.865>it, <00:31:40.005>this <00:31:40.145>what <00:31:40.285>this <00:31:40.425>is <00:31:40.565>what, <00:31:40.705>uh,

763
00:31:42.725 --> 00:31:43.725
<00:31:42.725>demo <00:31:43.024>time <00:31:43.324>is <00:31:43.625>doing.

764
00:31:43.865 --> 00:31:47.245
<00:31:43.865>So <00:31:44.020>this <00:31:44.176>is <00:31:44.331>my <00:31:44.487>actual <00:31:44.642>script <00:31:44.798>that <00:31:44.953>I <00:31:45.109>just <00:31:45.265>run.

765
00:31:47.425 --> 00:31:49.925
<00:31:47.425>Uh, <00:31:47.565>so <00:31:47.705>I <00:31:47.845>have <00:31:47.985>a <00:31:48.125>prepare, <00:31:48.264>prepare <00:31:48.405>is <00:31:48.544>just <00:31:48.685>a <00:31:48.825>backup

766
00:31:50.025 --> 00:31:52.645
<00:31:50.025>of <00:31:50.491>my, <00:31:50.958>uh, <00:31:51.425>settings.

767
00:31:53.065 --> 00:31:55.845
<00:31:53.065>And <00:31:53.220>at <00:31:53.376>the <00:31:53.531>end, <00:31:53.687>I <00:31:53.842>just <00:31:53.998>reset <00:31:54.153>all <00:31:54.309>the <00:31:54.465>settings

768
00:31:55.945 --> 00:31:58.845
<00:31:55.945>to <00:31:56.120>the <00:31:56.294>same <00:31:56.470>state <00:31:56.645>as <00:31:56.820>it <00:31:56.995>was <00:31:57.169>running <00:31:57.345>before.

769
00:31:58.985 --> 00:32:03.125
<00:31:58.985>So <00:31:59.125>it's <00:31:59.264>resetted <00:31:59.405>everything <00:31:59.544>to, <00:31:59.685>um, <00:31:59.824>to <00:31:59.965>use <00:32:00.104>my <00:32:00.245>dark <00:32:00.385>team.

770
00:32:03.545 --> 00:32:06.005
<00:32:03.545>Um, <00:32:03.720>and <00:32:03.895>then <00:32:04.070>all <00:32:04.245>of <00:32:04.420>the <00:32:04.595>things <00:32:04.770>like <00:32:04.945>opening

771
00:32:06.785 --> 00:32:10.645
<00:32:06.785>the <00:32:06.925>slide <00:32:07.065>deck <00:32:07.205>is <00:32:07.345>here, <00:32:07.485>um, <00:32:07.625>the <00:32:07.765>wrong <00:32:07.905>settings, <00:32:08.045>the <00:32:08.185>stress,

772
00:32:10.825 --> 00:32:14.805
<00:32:10.825>uh, <00:32:10.980>slide <00:32:11.136>deck <00:32:11.291>and <00:32:11.447>wan, <00:32:11.602>all <00:32:11.758>of <00:32:11.913>that <00:32:12.069>is <00:32:12.225>scripted.

773
00:32:15.145 --> 00:32:16.805
<00:32:15.145>Now, <00:32:15.378>what <00:32:15.611>does <00:32:15.845>a <00:32:16.078>script <00:32:16.311>look <00:32:16.545>like?

774
00:32:17.505 --> 00:32:20.485
<00:32:17.505>Um, <00:32:17.660>you <00:32:17.816>can <00:32:17.971>over, <00:32:18.127>over <00:32:18.282>and <00:32:18.438>you <00:32:18.593>see <00:32:18.749>the <00:32:18.905>I,

775
00:32:21.025 --> 00:32:23.685
<00:32:21.025>and <00:32:21.258>this <00:32:21.491>is <00:32:21.725>where <00:32:21.958>the <00:32:22.191>new <00:32:22.425>configuration

776
00:32:23.685 --> 00:32:24.805
<00:32:23.685>editor <00:32:24.021>comes <00:32:24.357>into <00:32:24.693>play.

777
00:32:25.025 --> 00:32:28.685
<00:32:25.025>So <00:32:25.165>in <00:32:25.305>the <00:32:25.445>latest <00:32:25.585>version, <00:32:25.725>uh, <00:32:25.865>there's <00:32:26.005>a <00:32:26.145>new <00:32:26.285>config <00:32:26.425>editor.

778
00:32:29.105 --> 00:32:31.085
<00:32:29.105>Uh, <00:32:29.455>before <00:32:29.805>that <00:32:30.155>you <00:32:30.505>needed

779
00:32:31.085 --> 00:32:33.285
<00:32:31.085>to <00:32:31.285>do <00:32:31.485>everything <00:32:31.685>in <00:32:31.885>YAML <00:32:32.085>or <00:32:32.285>in <00:32:32.485>Jason.

780
00:32:33.625 --> 00:32:36.525
<00:32:33.625>Uh, <00:32:33.765>there <00:32:33.905>were <00:32:34.045>a <00:32:34.185>couple <00:32:34.325>of <00:32:34.465>people <00:32:34.605>that <00:32:34.745>were <00:32:34.885>asking, <00:32:35.025>Hey,

781
00:32:36.585 --> 00:32:38.045
<00:32:36.585>can <00:32:36.847>we <00:32:37.110>have <00:32:37.373>a <00:32:37.636>configuration <00:32:37.899>editor?

782
00:32:38.185 --> 00:32:40.445
<00:32:38.185>And <00:32:38.360>I'll <00:32:38.534>try <00:32:38.710>to <00:32:38.885>make <00:32:39.060>it <00:32:39.235>a <00:32:39.409>little <00:32:39.585>smaller.

783
00:32:41.495 --> 00:32:45.635
<00:32:41.495>Uh, <00:32:41.650>so <00:32:41.806>what <00:32:41.961>it <00:32:42.117>is <00:32:42.272>over <00:32:42.428>here, <00:32:42.583>every <00:32:42.739>demo <00:32:42.895>consists

784
00:32:45.635 --> 00:32:49.115
<00:32:45.635>of <00:32:45.790>some <00:32:45.946>information, <00:32:46.101>like <00:32:46.257>a <00:32:46.412>title <00:32:46.568>of <00:32:46.723>that <00:32:46.879>particular <00:32:47.035>demo.

785
00:32:49.695 --> 00:32:53.035
<00:32:49.695>Um, <00:32:49.822>you <00:32:49.949>can <00:32:50.076>give <00:32:50.204>icons, <00:32:50.331>you <00:32:50.458>can <00:32:50.585>give <00:32:50.713>notes <00:32:50.840>and <00:32:50.967>so <00:32:51.095>on.

786
00:32:53.215 --> 00:32:56.155
<00:32:53.215>And <00:32:53.370>then <00:32:53.526>you <00:32:53.681>can <00:32:53.837>also <00:32:53.992>say <00:32:54.148>it <00:32:54.303>consists <00:32:54.459>of <00:32:54.615>steps.

787
00:32:57.275 --> 00:32:59.795
<00:32:57.275>A <00:32:57.508>demo <00:32:57.741>can <00:32:57.975>contain <00:32:58.208>many <00:32:58.441>different <00:32:58.675>steps,

788
00:33:00.175 --> 00:33:03.035
<00:33:00.175>but <00:33:00.375>they <00:33:00.575>will <00:33:00.774>all <00:33:00.975>run <00:33:01.175>by <00:33:01.375>default <00:33:01.575>sequentially.

789
00:33:03.415 --> 00:33:06.875
<00:33:03.415>So <00:33:03.555>for <00:33:03.695>instance, <00:33:03.835>if <00:33:03.975>you <00:33:04.115>want <00:33:04.254>to <00:33:04.395>create <00:33:04.534>a <00:33:04.675>file, <00:33:04.815>uh,

790
00:33:06.885 --> 00:33:08.315
<00:33:06.885>write <00:33:07.206>some <00:33:07.528>content <00:33:07.850>in <00:33:08.172>it

791
00:33:08.375 --> 00:33:11.275
<00:33:08.375>and <00:33:08.502>do <00:33:08.629>something <00:33:08.756>else, <00:33:08.884>that <00:33:09.011>can <00:33:09.138>all <00:33:09.265>be <00:33:09.393>in <00:33:09.520>one <00:33:09.647>demo, <00:33:09.775>go,

792
00:33:11.335 --> 00:33:12.355
<00:33:11.335>uh, <00:33:11.564>or <00:33:11.794>in <00:33:12.023>one <00:33:12.253>step.

793
00:33:12.495 --> 00:33:16.395
<00:33:12.495>So <00:33:12.669>multiple <00:33:12.844>steps, <00:33:13.020>and <00:33:13.195>then <00:33:13.370>you <00:33:13.544>create <00:33:13.719>some <00:33:13.895>actions.

794
00:33:16.395 --> 00:33:19.395
<00:33:16.395>Over <00:33:16.745>here. <00:33:17.095>Let's <00:33:17.445>me <00:33:17.795>do

795
00:33:20.255 --> 00:33:21.575
<00:33:20.255>a <00:33:20.492>creation <00:33:20.730>of <00:33:20.967>a <00:33:21.205>new <00:33:21.443>file.

796
00:33:22.155 --> 00:33:26.415
<00:33:22.155>Uh, <00:33:22.435>let's <00:33:22.715>do <00:33:22.995>sample <00:33:23.274>GitHub <00:33:23.555>codes

797
00:33:26.755 --> 00:33:28.215
<00:33:26.755>or, <00:33:27.412>uh, <00:33:28.069>copilots.

798
00:33:31.315 --> 00:33:34.935
<00:33:31.315>So <00:33:31.470>here <00:33:31.626>is <00:33:31.781>a <00:33:31.937>new <00:33:32.092>file. <00:33:32.248>Uh, <00:33:32.403>we <00:33:32.559>start <00:33:32.715>empty.

799
00:33:35.035 --> 00:33:36.255
<00:33:35.035>We <00:33:35.309>create <00:33:35.584>a <00:33:35.858>new <00:33:36.133>demo

800
00:33:36.875 --> 00:33:40.575
<00:33:36.875>and <00:33:37.155>let's <00:33:37.435>say, <00:33:37.715>uh, <00:33:37.995>create <00:33:38.275>me

801
00:33:41.275 --> 00:33:44.895
<00:33:41.275>or <00:33:41.625>test <00:33:41.975>out <00:33:42.325>the <00:33:42.675>chats.

802
00:33:49.195 --> 00:33:51.965
<00:33:49.195>What <00:33:49.395>I'm <00:33:49.595>going <00:33:49.794>to <00:33:49.995>do <00:33:50.195>is <00:33:50.395>I'm <00:33:50.595>going,

803
00:33:52.065 --> 00:33:55.525
<00:33:52.065>or <00:33:52.192>what <00:33:52.319>I'm <00:33:52.446>going <00:33:52.574>to <00:33:52.701>try <00:33:52.828>to <00:33:52.955>do <00:33:53.083>is <00:33:53.210>creating <00:33:53.337>an, <00:33:53.465>um,

804
00:33:56.205 --> 00:33:57.765
<00:33:56.205>a <00:33:56.905>visualization <00:33:57.605>of,

805
00:33:57.985 --> 00:34:00.485
<00:33:57.985>or <00:33:58.159>no, <00:33:58.334>I'm <00:33:58.510>going <00:33:58.685>not <00:33:58.860>to <00:33:59.034>create <00:33:59.209>a <00:33:59.385>visualization.

806
00:34:00.625 --> 00:34:03.605
<00:34:00.625>I'm <00:34:00.752>going <00:34:00.879>to <00:34:01.006>ask <00:34:01.134>GitHub <00:34:01.261>co-pilot <00:34:01.388>to <00:34:01.515>do <00:34:01.643>some <00:34:01.770>things <00:34:01.897>for <00:34:02.025>me.

807
00:34:03.665 --> 00:34:06.965
<00:34:03.665>So <00:34:03.820>what <00:34:03.976>I <00:34:04.131>will <00:34:04.287>do <00:34:04.442>here <00:34:04.598>is <00:34:04.753>I <00:34:04.909>will <00:34:05.065>ask,

808
00:34:07.545 --> 00:34:08.925
<00:34:07.545>uh, <00:34:08.166>co-pilot <00:34:08.787>chats.

809
00:34:09.065 --> 00:34:11.685
<00:34:09.065>Uh, <00:34:09.298>so <00:34:09.531>Ask <00:34:09.764>co-pilot <00:34:09.998>chat <00:34:10.231>is <00:34:10.465>going

810
00:34:11.685 --> 00:34:15.245
<00:34:11.685>to <00:34:11.860>automatically <00:34:12.034>open <00:34:12.210>the <00:34:12.384>copilot, <00:34:12.560>uh, <00:34:12.735>chats, <00:34:12.909>um, <00:34:13.085>from

811
00:34:15.475 --> 00:34:17.325
<00:34:15.475>with <00:34:15.824>individual <00:34:16.174>studio <00:34:16.525>code <00:34:16.875>experience.

812
00:34:17.505 --> 00:34:20.085
<00:34:17.505>And <00:34:17.680>I <00:34:17.855>can <00:34:18.030>enter <00:34:18.205>a <00:34:18.380>message <00:34:18.555>entering <00:34:18.730>a <00:34:18.905>message.

813
00:34:20.135 --> 00:34:21.565
<00:34:20.135>We'll <00:34:20.456>automatically <00:34:20.778>open <00:34:21.100>the <00:34:21.422>chat

814
00:34:21.585 --> 00:34:23.485
<00:34:21.585>and <00:34:21.818>then <00:34:22.051>enter <00:34:22.284>it, <00:34:22.518>uh, <00:34:22.751>straight <00:34:22.985>away.

815
00:34:24.065 --> 00:34:25.565
<00:34:24.065>In <00:34:24.233>this <00:34:24.402>case, <00:34:24.571>I <00:34:24.740>don't <00:34:24.908>want <00:34:25.077>to <00:34:25.246>do <00:34:25.415>it

816
00:34:25.565 --> 00:34:28.805
<00:34:25.565>because <00:34:25.692>I <00:34:25.819>want <00:34:25.946>to, <00:34:26.074>uh, <00:34:26.201>show <00:34:26.328>that <00:34:26.455>you <00:34:26.583>can <00:34:26.710>do <00:34:26.837>it <00:34:26.965>differently.

817
00:34:29.545 --> 00:34:33.445
<00:34:29.545>Um, <00:34:29.778>so <00:34:30.011>let's <00:34:30.245>type <00:34:30.478>the <00:34:30.711>text <00:34:30.945>manually,

818
00:34:33.745 --> 00:34:35.845
<00:34:33.745>or <00:34:34.025>not <00:34:34.304>letting <00:34:34.585>it <00:34:34.864>manually <00:34:35.145>type,

819
00:34:35.905 --> 00:34:38.325
<00:34:35.905>but <00:34:36.080>let's, <00:34:36.255>uh, <00:34:36.430>demo <00:34:36.605>time, <00:34:36.780>type <00:34:36.955>it <00:34:37.130>for <00:34:37.305>you

820
00:34:38.865 --> 00:34:43.645
<00:34:38.864>and <00:34:39.098>let's <00:34:39.331>say <00:34:39.564>generate, <00:34:39.798>uh, <00:34:40.031>generate, <00:34:40.264>uh,

821
00:34:44.785 --> 00:34:47.445
<00:34:44.784>iku <00:34:45.018>or <00:34:45.251>something <00:34:45.484>about, <00:34:45.718>uh, <00:34:45.951>we <00:34:46.185>are

822
00:34:48.495 --> 00:34:50.325
<00:34:48.495>developers <00:34:49.895>live.

823
00:34:51.095 --> 00:34:55.325
<00:34:51.094>Let's <00:34:51.234>see. <00:34:51.375>Um, <00:34:51.514>so <00:34:51.654>this <00:34:51.794>is <00:34:51.935>now <00:34:52.074>going <00:34:52.214>to <00:34:52.355>type <00:34:52.495>it.

824
00:34:55.705 --> 00:34:58.605
<00:34:55.705>And <00:34:55.860>what <00:34:56.016>I <00:34:56.171>can <00:34:56.327>then <00:34:56.482>also <00:34:56.638>say <00:34:56.793>is <00:34:56.949>press <00:34:57.105>enter

825
00:35:00.925 --> 00:35:02.185
<00:35:00.925>and <00:35:01.208>I <00:35:01.492>can <00:35:01.775>save <00:35:02.059>this.

826
00:35:02.665 --> 00:35:03.785
<00:35:02.665>I <00:35:02.866>can <00:35:03.068>run <00:35:03.269>it <00:35:03.471>from <00:35:03.673>here.

827
00:35:04.045 --> 00:35:08.025
<00:35:04.045>Or <00:35:04.145>if <00:35:04.245>I <00:35:04.345>am <00:35:04.445>now <00:35:04.545>going <00:35:04.645>here, <00:35:04.745>you <00:35:04.845>can <00:35:04.945>also <00:35:05.045>see <00:35:05.145>it, <00:35:05.245>uh, <00:35:05.345>in <00:35:05.445>here.

828
00:35:08.205 --> 00:35:10.145
<00:35:08.205>If <00:35:08.555>I <00:35:08.904>click <00:35:09.255>this, <00:35:09.605>it

829
00:35:11.085 --> 00:35:13.585
<00:35:11.085>should <00:35:11.785>start <00:35:12.485>opening.

830
00:35:13.725 --> 00:35:18.345
<00:35:13.725>Oh, <00:35:13.958>yeah, <00:35:14.191>uh, <00:35:14.424>let's <00:35:14.658>open <00:35:14.891>at <00:35:15.125>me,

831
00:35:20.215 --> 00:35:22.865
<00:35:20.215>open, <00:35:20.681>uh, <00:35:21.148>GitHub <00:35:21.615>chat.

832
00:35:23.045 --> 00:35:24.185
<00:35:23.045>No, <00:35:23.558>come <00:35:24.071>on,

833
00:35:27.255 --> 00:35:28.305
<00:35:27.255>open <00:35:27.727>GitHub <00:35:28.200>chat.

834
00:35:28.515 --> 00:35:32.475
<00:35:28.515>There <00:35:28.654>we <00:35:28.795>go. <00:35:28.935>Accidentally <00:35:29.075>used <00:35:29.214>the <00:35:29.355>wrong <00:35:29.495>one. <00:35:29.634>There <00:35:29.775>we <00:35:29.915>go.

835
00:35:33.855 --> 00:35:37.435
<00:35:33.855>So <00:35:34.088>it's <00:35:34.321>going <00:35:34.555>to <00:35:34.788>create <00:35:35.021>me <00:35:35.255>one,

836
00:35:38.345 --> 00:35:39.685
<00:35:38.345>and <00:35:38.586>what <00:35:38.827>I <00:35:39.068>can <00:35:39.309>then <00:35:39.551>do

837
00:35:40.025 --> 00:35:43.365
<00:35:40.025>as <00:35:40.180>well <00:35:40.336>is <00:35:40.491>doing <00:35:40.647>the <00:35:40.802>same <00:35:40.958>thing, <00:35:41.113>uh, <00:35:41.269>all <00:35:41.425>over.

838
00:35:43.665 --> 00:35:45.965
<00:35:43.665>Um, <00:35:43.840>and <00:35:44.015>that's <00:35:44.190>where <00:35:44.365>you <00:35:44.540>can <00:35:44.715>just <00:35:44.890>clone <00:35:45.065>this.

839
00:35:49.705 --> 00:35:53.205
<00:35:49.705>And <00:35:49.880>instead <00:35:50.055>of <00:35:50.230>that, <00:35:50.404>let's <00:35:50.580>say <00:35:50.755>that <00:35:50.930>we <00:35:51.105>are

840
00:35:54.045 --> 00:35:57.245
<00:35:54.045>creating <00:35:54.278>an <00:35:54.511>haiku <00:35:54.745>about <00:35:54.978>demo <00:35:55.211>go <00:35:55.445>wrong

841
00:35:57.675 --> 00:35:59.685
<00:35:57.675>because <00:35:57.955>my <00:35:58.235>demo <00:35:58.515>just <00:35:58.795>went <00:35:59.075>wrong

842
00:35:59.685 --> 00:36:02.125
<00:35:59.685>because <00:35:59.918>I <00:36:00.151>accidentally <00:36:00.384>took <00:36:00.618>the <00:36:00.851>wrong <00:36:01.085>one.

843
00:36:03.225 --> 00:36:04.565
<00:36:03.225>And <00:36:03.397>then <00:36:03.569>you <00:36:03.741>can <00:36:03.914>do <00:36:04.086>the <00:36:04.258>same <00:36:04.431>thing.

844
00:36:05.345 --> 00:36:09.685
<00:36:05.345>And <00:36:05.484>here <00:36:05.625>you <00:36:05.765>see, <00:36:05.904>when <00:36:06.044>I <00:36:06.185>click <00:36:06.325>this, <00:36:06.464>it <00:36:06.605>should <00:36:06.745>open,

845
00:36:10.225 --> 00:36:11.365
<00:36:10.225>uh, <00:36:10.738>this <00:36:11.250>chat.

846
00:36:11.585 --> 00:36:14.605
<00:36:11.585>So <00:36:11.725>let's <00:36:11.865>do <00:36:12.005>it <00:36:12.145>again. <00:36:12.285>It's <00:36:12.425>automatically <00:36:12.565>typing <00:36:12.705>it <00:36:12.845>for <00:36:12.985>me.

847
00:36:14.715 --> 00:36:17.885
<00:36:14.715>It's <00:36:14.890>automatically <00:36:15.065>pressing <00:36:15.240>enter <00:36:15.415>for <00:36:15.590>me <00:36:15.765>and <00:36:15.940>so <00:36:16.115>on.

848
00:36:18.145 --> 00:36:20.925
<00:36:18.145>So <00:36:18.345>all <00:36:18.545>of <00:36:18.745>that <00:36:18.945>can <00:36:19.145>just <00:36:19.345>be <00:36:19.545>scripted.

849
00:36:21.505 --> 00:36:23.525
<00:36:21.505>If <00:36:21.705>you're <00:36:21.905>live <00:36:22.105>on <00:36:22.305>stage, <00:36:22.505>you <00:36:22.705>don't <00:36:22.905>have

850
00:36:23.525 --> 00:36:24.885
<00:36:23.525>to <00:36:23.769>think <00:36:24.014>about <00:36:24.259>these <00:36:24.504>things <00:36:24.749>anymore

851
00:36:24.885 --> 00:36:27.645
<00:36:24.885>because <00:36:25.040>demo <00:36:25.196>time <00:36:25.351>will <00:36:25.507>just, <00:36:25.662>uh, <00:36:25.818>do <00:36:25.973>it <00:36:26.129>for <00:36:26.285>you.

852
00:36:28.025 --> 00:36:30.125
<00:36:28.025>Uh, <00:36:28.180>it <00:36:28.336>gives <00:36:28.491>you <00:36:28.647>a <00:36:28.802>lot <00:36:28.958>more <00:36:29.113>peace <00:36:29.269>of <00:36:29.425>mind.

853
00:36:30.505 --> 00:36:35.085
<00:36:30.505>And <00:36:30.621>as <00:36:30.738>I <00:36:30.855>said, <00:36:30.971>um, <00:36:31.088>you <00:36:31.205>can <00:36:31.321>share <00:36:31.438>these <00:36:31.555>kind <00:36:31.671>of <00:36:31.788>things, <00:36:31.905>uh,

854
00:36:35.085 --> 00:36:37.205
<00:36:35.085>like <00:36:35.365>the <00:36:35.645>repository <00:36:35.925>to <00:36:36.205>your <00:36:36.485>audience

855
00:36:37.225 --> 00:36:38.565
<00:36:37.225>and <00:36:37.466>let <00:36:37.707>them <00:36:37.948>play <00:36:38.189>with <00:36:38.431>it.

856
00:36:39.065 --> 00:36:41.845
<00:36:39.065>Um, <00:36:39.220>and <00:36:39.376>for <00:36:39.531>you, <00:36:39.687>the <00:36:39.842>only <00:36:39.998>thing <00:36:40.153>that <00:36:40.309>you <00:36:40.465>need

857
00:36:41.845 --> 00:36:43.965
<00:36:41.845>to <00:36:42.078>do <00:36:42.311>is <00:36:42.544>revert <00:36:42.778>all <00:36:43.011>the <00:36:43.245>changes.

858
00:36:44.935 --> 00:36:46.565
<00:36:44.935>Clone <00:36:45.215>it <00:36:45.495>again <00:36:45.775>for <00:36:46.055>another <00:36:46.335>conference,

859
00:36:46.785 --> 00:36:48.885
<00:36:46.785>and <00:36:47.018>you <00:36:47.251>can, <00:36:47.484>uh, <00:36:47.718>go <00:36:47.951>straight <00:36:48.185>away.

860
00:36:49.145 --> 00:36:52.165
<00:36:49.145>I'd <00:36:49.320>say <00:36:49.495>AI <00:36:49.670>in <00:36:49.845>games <00:36:50.020>has <00:36:50.195>been <00:36:50.370>there <00:36:50.545>already

861
00:36:52.225 --> 00:36:54.085
<00:36:52.225>for <00:36:52.691>decades, <00:36:53.158>really <00:36:53.625>decades.

862
00:36:54.465 --> 00:36:57.965
<00:36:54.465>And <00:36:54.605>there <00:36:54.745>is <00:36:54.885>a <00:36:55.025>lot <00:36:55.165>of, <00:36:55.305>some <00:36:55.445>things <00:36:55.585>are <00:36:55.725>rather <00:36:55.865>delusion

863
00:36:57.965 --> 00:37:01.165
<00:36:57.965>of <00:36:58.105>ai, <00:36:58.245>so <00:36:58.385>not <00:36:58.525>the <00:36:58.665>same <00:36:58.805>ai, <00:36:58.945>what <00:36:59.085>we <00:36:59.225>would <00:36:59.365>understand

864
00:37:01.165 --> 00:37:02.205
<00:37:01.165>as <00:37:01.633>computer <00:37:02.101>scientists.

865
00:37:02.205 --> 00:37:05.565
<00:37:02.205>So <00:37:02.380>it's <00:37:02.555>rather <00:37:02.730>about <00:37:02.904>making <00:37:03.080>the <00:37:03.255>enemy <00:37:03.430>look <00:37:03.605>smart.

866
00:37:05.745 --> 00:37:08.365
<00:37:05.745>But <00:37:05.884>the <00:37:06.025>truth <00:37:06.165>is, <00:37:06.305>it's <00:37:06.444>like <00:37:06.585>it <00:37:06.725>cannot <00:37:06.865>be <00:37:07.005>that <00:37:07.145>smart

867
00:37:08.365 --> 00:37:09.885
<00:37:08.365>because <00:37:08.638>it <00:37:08.912>would <00:37:09.185>always <00:37:09.459>outsmart <00:37:09.733>us.

868
00:37:10.425 --> 00:37:13.245
<00:37:10.425>But <00:37:10.600>there's <00:37:10.775>another, <00:37:10.950>um, <00:37:11.125>on, <00:37:11.300>on <00:37:11.475>the <00:37:11.650>other <00:37:11.825>side

869
00:37:13.245 --> 00:37:14.645
<00:37:13.245>of <00:37:13.497>the <00:37:13.749>coin, <00:37:14.000>it's <00:37:14.253>quite <00:37:14.505>interesting.

870
00:37:14.915 --> 00:37:19.365
<00:37:14.915>It's <00:37:15.042>not <00:37:15.169>only <00:37:15.296>AI <00:37:15.424>in <00:37:15.551>games, <00:37:15.678>but <00:37:15.805>also <00:37:15.933>games <00:37:16.060>for <00:37:16.187>AI <00:37:16.315>research.

871
00:37:20.025 --> 00:37:22.205
<00:37:20.025>So, <00:37:20.258>um, <00:37:20.491>games <00:37:20.725>have <00:37:20.958>always <00:37:21.191>been <00:37:21.425>a

872
00:37:22.955 --> 00:37:26.445
<00:37:22.955>massively <00:37:23.130>important <00:37:23.305>platform <00:37:23.480>to <00:37:23.654>train <00:37:23.830>the <00:37:24.005>current <00:37:24.180>AI <00:37:24.355>models.

873
00:37:26.865 --> 00:37:29.645
<00:37:26.865>So <00:37:27.040>whether <00:37:27.214>it's <00:37:27.390>like, <00:37:27.564>you <00:37:27.740>might <00:37:27.915>remember <00:37:28.089>the <00:37:28.265>first

874
00:37:30.725 --> 00:37:34.325
<00:37:30.725>headlines, <00:37:30.880>wow, <00:37:31.036>cusper <00:37:31.191>off <00:37:31.347>the <00:37:31.502>chess <00:37:31.658>grant <00:37:31.813>master <00:37:31.969>has <00:37:32.125>been

875
00:37:34.325 --> 00:37:35.885
<00:37:34.325>beaten <00:37:34.674>by <00:37:35.024>an <00:37:35.375>AI <00:37:35.725>system.

876
00:37:36.235 --> 00:37:38.645
<00:37:36.235>Back <00:37:36.435>then, <00:37:36.635>this <00:37:36.835>was <00:37:37.035>not <00:37:37.235>really <00:37:37.435>rocket <00:37:37.635>science

877
00:37:38.645 --> 00:37:40.165
<00:37:38.645>because <00:37:38.987>AI <00:37:39.329>has <00:37:39.671>a, <00:37:40.013>uh,

878
00:37:40.295 --> 00:37:42.605
<00:37:40.295>chess <00:37:40.528>has <00:37:40.761>a <00:37:40.995>very <00:37:41.228>small <00:37:41.461>branching <00:37:41.695>factors.

879
00:37:42.865 --> 00:37:44.165
<00:37:42.865>You <00:37:43.098>can <00:37:43.332>sort <00:37:43.567>of <00:37:43.801>predict <00:37:44.035>what,

880
00:37:44.195 --> 00:37:45.645
<00:37:44.195>what <00:37:44.456>are <00:37:44.717>the <00:37:44.978>po <00:37:45.239>potential <00:37:45.500>moves,

881
00:37:45.915 --> 00:37:49.125
<00:37:45.915>however <00:37:46.265>really <00:37:46.615>big <00:37:46.965>moves, <00:37:47.315>um,

882
00:37:49.125 --> 00:37:52.885
<00:37:49.125>were <00:37:49.265>done <00:37:49.405>when <00:37:49.545>StarCraft <00:37:49.685>two <00:37:49.825>back <00:37:49.965>then <00:37:50.105>was <00:37:50.245>for <00:37:50.385>the <00:37:50.525>first,

883
00:37:53.105 --> 00:37:57.565
<00:37:53.105>um, <00:37:53.385>time <00:37:53.665>beaten <00:37:53.945>by <00:37:54.225>Alpha <00:37:54.505>Star,

884
00:37:57.825 --> 00:37:59.485
<00:37:57.825>it <00:37:58.174>was <00:37:58.524>called <00:37:58.875>from <00:37:59.225>DeepMind.

885
00:38:00.345 --> 00:38:01.725
<00:38:00.345>Um, <00:38:00.655>and <00:38:00.966>it's <00:38:01.276>quite <00:38:01.587>interesting

886
00:38:01.725 --> 00:38:03.285
<00:38:01.725>because <00:38:02.191>games <00:38:02.658>like <00:38:03.125>StarCraft,

887
00:38:03.285 --> 00:38:06.325
<00:38:03.285>they <00:38:03.484>have <00:38:03.685>like <00:38:03.884>every <00:38:04.085>really <00:38:04.285>huge <00:38:04.484>branching <00:38:04.685>factors.

888
00:38:06.425 --> 00:38:07.605
<00:38:06.425>So <00:38:06.637>there <00:38:06.849>are <00:38:07.062>so <00:38:07.274>many <00:38:07.487>possibilities.

889
00:38:08.015 --> 00:38:10.925
<00:38:08.015>Every <00:38:08.365>single <00:38:08.714>microsecond, <00:38:09.065>um, <00:38:09.415>millisecond

890
00:38:11.545 --> 00:38:15.565
<00:38:11.545>and <00:38:11.825>basically, <00:38:12.105>um, <00:38:12.385>it's <00:38:12.665>not <00:38:12.945>istic.

891
00:38:15.945 --> 00:38:18.205
<00:38:15.945>It, <00:38:16.145>um, <00:38:16.345>you <00:38:16.545>cannot <00:38:16.745>have <00:38:16.945>all <00:38:17.145>the <00:38:17.345>information.

892
00:38:18.505 --> 00:38:20.085
<00:38:18.505>So <00:38:18.971>it's <00:38:19.438>really <00:38:19.905>complex,

893
00:38:20.185 --> 00:38:23.725
<00:38:20.185>but <00:38:20.360>it's <00:38:20.535>still <00:38:20.710>a, <00:38:20.884>um, <00:38:21.060>small <00:38:21.235>closed, <00:38:21.410>formal <00:38:21.585>system.

894
00:38:24.225 --> 00:38:26.445
<00:38:24.225>Um, <00:38:24.424>so <00:38:24.625>it's <00:38:24.825>super <00:38:25.025>interesting <00:38:25.225>to <00:38:25.424>think <00:38:25.625>about

895
00:38:27.005 --> 00:38:30.325
<00:38:27.005>training <00:38:27.180>AI <00:38:27.355>agents <00:38:27.530>in <00:38:27.705>there, <00:38:27.880>um, <00:38:28.055>in <00:38:28.230>this <00:38:28.405>system

896
00:38:30.325 --> 00:38:33.005
<00:38:30.325>because <00:38:30.500>it's <00:38:30.674>still <00:38:30.850>similar <00:38:31.024>to <00:38:31.200>our <00:38:31.375>real <00:38:31.549>world <00:38:31.725>somehow.

897
00:38:33.225 --> 00:38:37.285
<00:38:33.225>So <00:38:33.352>you <00:38:33.479>can <00:38:33.606>use <00:38:33.734>it <00:38:33.861>then <00:38:33.988>for, <00:38:34.115>uh, <00:38:34.243>for <00:38:34.370>car, <00:38:34.497>um, <00:38:34.625>uh,

898
00:38:37.285 --> 00:38:39.805
<00:38:37.285>self-driving <00:38:37.518>cars <00:38:37.751>or <00:38:37.984>for <00:38:38.218>drone <00:38:38.451>systems, <00:38:38.685>um,

899
00:38:39.805 --> 00:38:41.085
<00:38:39.805>the <00:38:40.093>train, <00:38:40.381>those <00:38:40.669>systems <00:38:40.957>there.

900
00:38:41.465 --> 00:38:44.245
<00:38:41.465>But <00:38:41.698>again, <00:38:41.931>it's <00:38:42.165>was <00:38:42.398>always <00:38:42.631>used <00:38:42.865>for

901
00:38:44.345 --> 00:38:46.925
<00:38:44.345>by <00:38:44.544>companies <00:38:44.745>like <00:38:44.944>DeepMind <00:38:45.145>to <00:38:45.345>train <00:38:45.544>their <00:38:45.745>agents.

902
00:38:47.225 --> 00:38:50.285
<00:38:47.225>And <00:38:47.380>the <00:38:47.536>fun <00:38:47.691>fact <00:38:47.847>I <00:38:48.002>have <00:38:48.158>to <00:38:48.313>add <00:38:48.469>here <00:38:48.625>is

903
00:38:50.285 --> 00:38:54.605
<00:38:50.285>that <00:38:50.460>the <00:38:50.634>last <00:38:50.810>novel <00:38:50.984>prize <00:38:51.160>for <00:38:51.335>chemistry, <00:38:51.509>um, <00:38:51.685>was,

904
00:38:54.905 --> 00:38:57.765
<00:38:54.905>was <00:38:55.138>given <00:38:55.371>to <00:38:55.605>the <00:38:55.838>co-founders <00:38:56.071>of <00:38:56.305>DeepMind.

905
00:38:58.145 --> 00:39:00.325
<00:38:58.145>And <00:38:58.378>one <00:38:58.611>of <00:38:58.845>them <00:38:59.078>is <00:38:59.311>Demi <00:38:59.545>Abi.

906
00:39:00.715 --> 00:39:04.525
<00:39:00.715>They <00:39:00.915>got <00:39:01.115>the <00:39:01.315>Nobel <00:39:01.515>Prize <00:39:01.715>for <00:39:01.915>chemistry, <00:39:02.115>um,

907
00:39:04.525 --> 00:39:06.645
<00:39:04.525>for <00:39:04.875>protein <00:39:05.225>folding <00:39:05.575>for, <00:39:05.925>uh,

908
00:39:06.775 --> 00:39:08.005
<00:39:06.775>alpha <00:39:06.959>fold, <00:39:07.144>I <00:39:07.328>think <00:39:07.513>it <00:39:07.697>was <00:39:07.882>called.

909
00:39:09.345 --> 00:39:12.925
<00:39:09.345>And <00:39:09.484>Demi <00:39:09.625>ABIs <00:39:09.765>used <00:39:09.904>to <00:39:10.044>be <00:39:10.185>the <00:39:10.325>AI <00:39:10.464>programmer <00:39:10.605>of <00:39:10.745>black

910
00:39:12.925 --> 00:39:14.045
<00:39:12.925>and <00:39:13.177>white, <00:39:13.429>the <00:39:13.681>video <00:39:13.933>game.

911
00:39:14.465 --> 00:39:17.565
<00:39:14.465>Oh, <00:39:14.605>cool. <00:39:14.745>So <00:39:14.885>this <00:39:15.025>is <00:39:15.165>like <00:39:15.305>my <00:39:15.445>great <00:39:15.585>hope <00:39:15.725>this <00:39:15.865>game

912
00:39:18.245 --> 00:39:21.605
<00:39:18.245>researchers <00:39:18.444>might <00:39:18.645>become <00:39:18.845>novel <00:39:19.045>prize <00:39:19.245>at <00:39:19.444>some <00:39:19.645>at

913
00:39:21.605 --> 00:39:22.845
<00:39:21.605>some <00:39:21.884>point <00:39:22.163>in <00:39:22.442>the <00:39:22.721>future.

914
00:39:23.125 --> 00:39:24.325
<00:39:23.125>I <00:39:23.341>don't, <00:39:23.557>yeah, <00:39:23.772>stick <00:39:23.989>to <00:39:24.205>that.

915
00:39:25.525 --> 00:39:27.405
<00:39:25.525>I <00:39:25.665>mean, <00:39:25.805>there <00:39:25.945>was <00:39:26.085>also <00:39:26.225>in <00:39:26.365>machine <00:39:26.505>learning, <00:39:26.645>there <00:39:26.785>was <00:39:26.925>lots

916
00:39:27.405 --> 00:39:29.285
<00:39:27.405>of <00:39:27.580>stuff <00:39:27.755>before <00:39:27.930>I <00:39:28.105>remember <00:39:28.280>that <00:39:28.455>too <00:39:28.630>many, <00:39:28.805>uh,

917
00:39:29.385 --> 00:39:32.845
<00:39:29.385>too <00:39:29.525>many <00:39:29.665>Marios <00:39:29.805>example <00:39:29.945>where <00:39:30.085>basically <00:39:30.225>they <00:39:30.365>made <00:39:30.505>a, <00:39:30.645>a, <00:39:30.785>a,

918
00:39:32.925 --> 00:39:36.045
<00:39:32.925>a <00:39:33.100>machine <00:39:33.275>model <00:39:33.450>play <00:39:33.625>Mario, <00:39:33.800>Mario, <00:39:33.975>uh, <00:39:34.150>uh, <00:39:34.325>world

919
00:39:36.045 --> 00:39:38.205
<00:39:36.045>with <00:39:36.245>like <00:39:36.445>50,000 <00:39:36.645>Marios <00:39:36.845>at <00:39:37.045>the <00:39:37.245>same <00:39:37.445>time

920
00:39:38.705 --> 00:39:40.125
<00:39:38.705>and <00:39:38.960>making <00:39:39.216>sure <00:39:39.471>that <00:39:39.727>they <00:39:39.983>go

921
00:39:40.125 --> 00:39:42.125
<00:39:40.125>through <00:39:40.325>it <00:39:40.525>without <00:39:40.725>dying <00:39:40.925>and <00:39:41.125>learning <00:39:41.325>from <00:39:41.525>it.

922
00:39:42.185 --> 00:39:45.165
<00:39:42.185>And <00:39:42.360>that's, <00:39:42.535>that <00:39:42.710>also <00:39:42.884>got <00:39:43.060>into <00:39:43.235>like <00:39:43.410>self, <00:39:43.585>uh,

923
00:39:45.165 --> 00:39:46.965
<00:39:45.165>walking <00:39:45.515>machine, <00:39:45.865>uh, <00:39:46.215>uh, <00:39:46.565>robots

924
00:39:46.965 --> 00:39:48.725
<00:39:46.965>and <00:39:47.165>these <00:39:47.365>kind <00:39:47.565>of <00:39:47.765>things <00:39:47.965>that, <00:39:48.165>that <00:39:48.365>learning.

925
00:39:49.305 --> 00:39:50.805
<00:39:49.305>So <00:39:49.575>it, <00:39:49.845>it's <00:39:50.115>an <00:39:50.384>interesting <00:39:50.654>one.

926
00:39:51.125 --> 00:39:53.645
<00:39:51.125>I <00:39:51.252>remember <00:39:51.379>a <00:39:51.506>few <00:39:51.634>years <00:39:51.761>ago <00:39:51.888>there <00:39:52.015>was <00:39:52.143>also <00:39:52.270>the, <00:39:52.397>the, <00:39:52.525>the,

927
00:39:53.745 --> 00:39:56.805
<00:39:53.745>the <00:39:53.884>idea <00:39:54.025>of <00:39:54.165>uh, <00:39:54.305>making <00:39:54.444>a <00:39:54.585>game <00:39:54.725>by <00:39:54.865>playing <00:39:55.005>the <00:39:55.145>game.

928
00:39:57.115 --> 00:40:00.445
<00:39:57.115>Like <00:39:57.270>there <00:39:57.426>was <00:39:57.581>this, <00:39:57.737>uh, <00:39:57.892>uh, <00:39:58.048>by, <00:39:58.203>uh, <00:39:58.359>what <00:39:58.515>was,

929
00:40:00.445 --> 00:40:02.765
<00:40:00.445>it <00:40:00.645>was <00:40:00.845>like <00:40:01.045>a, <00:40:01.245>a <00:40:01.445>worry <00:40:01.645>dream <00:40:01.845>guy.

930
00:40:02.905 --> 00:40:04.845
<00:40:02.905>And <00:40:03.105>it <00:40:03.305>was <00:40:03.505>really <00:40:03.705>interesting <00:40:03.905>to <00:40:04.105>see <00:40:04.305>like

931
00:40:05.115 --> 00:40:07.765
<00:40:05.115>that <00:40:05.254>you <00:40:05.395>play <00:40:05.535>a <00:40:05.674>level <00:40:05.814>of <00:40:05.955>a <00:40:06.095>jump <00:40:06.234>and <00:40:06.375>run <00:40:06.515>game,

932
00:40:07.825 --> 00:40:10.005
<00:40:07.825>and <00:40:08.000>that <00:40:08.174>is <00:40:08.350>then <00:40:08.524>the <00:40:08.700>perfect <00:40:08.875>solution <00:40:09.049>to <00:40:09.225>play

933
00:40:10.005 --> 00:40:11.325
<00:40:10.005>that <00:40:10.302>level <00:40:10.599>rather <00:40:10.895>than <00:40:11.192>like,

934
00:40:11.545 --> 00:40:13.965
<00:40:11.545>and <00:40:11.745>then <00:40:11.945>you <00:40:12.145>actually <00:40:12.345>throw <00:40:12.545>random <00:40:12.745>things <00:40:12.945>in

935
00:40:13.965 --> 00:40:15.725
<00:40:13.965>to <00:40:14.140>make <00:40:14.315>sure <00:40:14.490>it's <00:40:14.665>not <00:40:14.840>that <00:40:15.015>easy <00:40:15.190>to <00:40:15.365>do.

936
00:40:16.225 --> 00:40:19.125
<00:40:16.225>But <00:40:16.341>I, <00:40:16.458>uh, <00:40:16.575>and <00:40:16.691>there <00:40:16.808>there <00:40:16.924>was <00:40:17.041>also <00:40:17.158>an, <00:40:17.275>an <00:40:17.391>indie <00:40:17.508>game <00:40:17.625>that

937
00:40:19.235 --> 00:40:21.485
<00:40:19.235>that <00:40:19.435>allowed <00:40:19.635>you <00:40:19.835>to, <00:40:20.035>to <00:40:20.235>turn <00:40:20.435>back <00:40:20.635>time

938
00:40:21.585 --> 00:40:23.445
<00:40:21.585>and <00:40:21.785>do <00:40:21.985>jumps <00:40:22.185>backwards <00:40:22.385>in <00:40:22.585>case <00:40:22.785>you <00:40:22.985>got

939
00:40:23.445 --> 00:40:24.685
<00:40:23.445>stuck <00:40:23.668>in <00:40:23.891>these <00:40:24.114>kind <00:40:24.337>of <00:40:24.561>things.

940
00:40:25.145 --> 00:40:28.045
<00:40:25.145>So <00:40:25.300>there <00:40:25.456>are <00:40:25.611>so <00:40:25.767>many <00:40:25.922>cool, <00:40:26.078>uh, <00:40:26.233>uh, <00:40:26.389>uh, <00:40:26.545>uh,

941
00:40:28.075 --> 00:40:31.645
<00:40:28.075>cool <00:40:28.214>game <00:40:28.355>mechanics <00:40:28.495>and <00:40:28.634>uh, <00:40:28.774>way <00:40:28.915>ways <00:40:29.055>of <00:40:29.194>interacting <00:40:29.335>with <00:40:29.475>it.

942
00:40:32.145 --> 00:40:34.805
<00:40:32.145>And <00:40:32.378>then, <00:40:32.611>uh, <00:40:32.845>we, <00:40:33.078>AI <00:40:33.311>became <00:40:33.545>mainstream

943
00:40:34.805 --> 00:40:36.725
<00:40:34.805>and <00:40:34.980>everybody <00:40:35.154>said <00:40:35.330>it <00:40:35.504>should <00:40:35.680>be <00:40:35.855>a <00:40:36.029>chatbot, <00:40:36.205>right?

944
00:40:40.155 --> 00:40:43.205
<00:40:40.155>Yeah. <00:40:40.330>But <00:40:40.505>it's, <00:40:40.680>it's, <00:40:40.855>it's <00:40:41.030>so <00:40:41.205>many <00:40:41.380>cool <00:40:41.555>things

945
00:40:43.305 --> 00:40:45.525
<00:40:43.305>to <00:40:43.538>can <00:40:43.771>do <00:40:44.004>in <00:40:44.238>combination <00:40:44.471>machine <00:40:44.705>learning.

946
00:40:45.585 --> 00:40:48.205
<00:40:45.585>And <00:40:45.712>uh, <00:40:45.839>so <00:40:45.966>we, <00:40:46.094>we <00:40:46.221>do <00:40:46.348>a <00:40:46.475>lot <00:40:46.603>of <00:40:46.730>research <00:40:46.857>in <00:40:46.985>there.

947
00:40:48.265 --> 00:40:51.325
<00:40:48.265>So <00:40:48.420>things <00:40:48.576>like <00:40:48.731>what <00:40:48.887>you <00:40:49.042>just <00:40:49.198>mentioned, <00:40:49.353>for <00:40:49.509>instance, <00:40:49.665>um,

948
00:40:51.585 --> 00:40:54.645
<00:40:51.585>how, <00:40:51.725>why <00:40:51.865>would <00:40:52.005>you <00:40:52.145>want <00:40:52.285>an <00:40:52.425>AI <00:40:52.565>to <00:40:52.705>play <00:40:52.845>a <00:40:52.985>game?

949
00:40:54.915 --> 00:40:57.525
<00:40:54.915>This <00:40:55.090>is <00:40:55.265>something <00:40:55.440>which <00:40:55.615>we <00:40:55.790>do <00:40:55.965>quite, <00:40:56.140>quite <00:40:56.315>intensely.

950
00:40:57.685 --> 00:40:59.845
<00:40:57.685>'cause <00:40:57.884>this <00:40:58.085>is <00:40:58.285>super <00:40:58.485>interesting <00:40:58.685>for <00:40:58.884>automatic <00:40:59.085>balancing

951
00:41:00.225 --> 00:41:03.525
<00:41:00.225>to <00:41:00.365>make <00:41:00.505>it <00:41:00.645>more <00:41:00.785>accessible <00:41:00.924>to <00:41:01.065>people, <00:41:01.205>um, <00:41:01.345>with, <00:41:01.485>um, <00:41:01.625>who,

952
00:41:03.625 --> 00:41:07.125
<00:41:03.625>who <00:41:03.780>might <00:41:03.936>want <00:41:04.091>to <00:41:04.247>play <00:41:04.402>with <00:41:04.558>the <00:41:04.713>specific <00:41:04.869>handicaps, <00:41:05.025>um,

953
00:41:07.265 --> 00:41:09.885
<00:41:07.265>but <00:41:07.615>also <00:41:07.964>to, <00:41:08.315>um, <00:41:08.665>um,

954
00:41:10.785 --> 00:41:13.805
<00:41:10.785>to <00:41:11.018>make <00:41:11.251>it <00:41:11.484>like <00:41:11.718>tested <00:41:11.951>like <00:41:12.185>infinite,

955
00:41:13.835 --> 00:41:15.285
<00:41:13.835>like <00:41:14.161>all <00:41:14.487>the <00:41:14.813>infinite <00:41:15.140>versions.

956
00:41:15.345 --> 00:41:17.885
<00:41:15.345>Um, <00:41:15.500>so, <00:41:15.656>um, <00:41:15.811>this, <00:41:15.967>this <00:41:16.122>can <00:41:16.278>be <00:41:16.433>also <00:41:16.589>very <00:41:16.745>lovely

957
00:41:18.025 --> 00:41:22.045
<00:41:18.025>and <00:41:18.152>machine <00:41:18.279>learning, <00:41:18.406>we <00:41:18.534>do <00:41:18.661>use <00:41:18.788>a <00:41:18.915>lot <00:41:19.043>to, <00:41:19.170>for <00:41:19.297>instance, <00:41:19.425>um,

958
00:41:22.155 --> 00:41:25.325
<00:41:22.155>automatically <00:41:22.505>recognize, <00:41:22.855>uh, <00:41:23.205>toxic <00:41:23.555>behavior.

959
00:41:25.445 --> 00:41:27.325
<00:41:25.445>I <00:41:25.620>could <00:41:25.795>say <00:41:25.970>cheaters <00:41:26.145>now, <00:41:26.320>but <00:41:26.495>we <00:41:26.670>mentioned <00:41:26.845>for

960
00:41:27.435 --> 00:41:30.165
<00:41:27.435>that <00:41:27.715>this <00:41:27.995>could, <00:41:28.275>this <00:41:28.555>is, <00:41:28.835>yeah.

961
00:41:30.705 --> 00:41:33.925
<00:41:30.705>Um, <00:41:30.880>but <00:41:31.055>to <00:41:31.230>to <00:41:31.404>identify <00:41:31.580>toxic <00:41:31.755>behavior, <00:41:31.930>for <00:41:32.105>instance,

962
00:41:33.925 --> 00:41:36.325
<00:41:33.925>automatically, <00:41:34.205>and <00:41:34.485>then <00:41:34.765>try <00:41:35.045>to <00:41:35.325>predict

963
00:41:36.505 --> 00:41:37.765
<00:41:36.505>who <00:41:36.883>might <00:41:37.261>become <00:41:37.639>toxic

964
00:41:38.145 --> 00:41:40.085
<00:41:38.145>and <00:41:38.425>try <00:41:38.705>to <00:41:38.985>integrate <00:41:39.265>them, <00:41:39.545>um,

965
00:41:40.385 --> 00:41:44.645
<00:41:40.385>to <00:41:40.512>the <00:41:40.639>game <00:41:40.766>in <00:41:40.894>the <00:41:41.021>most <00:41:41.148>positive <00:41:41.275>way <00:41:41.403>to <00:41:41.530>sort <00:41:41.657>of <00:41:41.785>prevent

966
00:41:44.675 --> 00:41:46.205
<00:41:44.675>that <00:41:44.950>they <00:41:45.225>become <00:41:45.501>toxic <00:41:45.776>at <00:41:46.052>all.

967
00:41:46.545 --> 00:41:49.525
<00:41:46.545>So <00:41:46.700>there's <00:41:46.856>so <00:41:47.011>much <00:41:47.167>potential <00:41:47.322>if <00:41:47.478>you <00:41:47.633>mix <00:41:47.789>AI <00:41:47.945>systems,

968
00:41:49.635 --> 00:41:51.165
<00:41:49.635>machine <00:41:50.094>learning <00:41:50.553>with <00:41:51.012>games.

969
00:41:52.705 --> 00:41:54.965
<00:41:52.705>I'm <00:41:52.904>getting <00:41:53.105>nineties <00:41:53.305>vibes <00:41:53.505>from <00:41:53.705>you <00:41:53.904>right <00:41:54.105>now

970
00:41:54.965 --> 00:41:57.445
<00:41:54.965>because <00:41:55.165>your <00:41:55.365>microphone, <00:41:55.565>your, <00:41:55.765>your <00:41:55.965>mobile <00:41:56.165>phone <00:41:56.365>seems

971
00:41:57.445 --> 00:41:59.325
<00:41:57.445>to <00:41:57.725>be <00:41:58.005>interfering <00:41:58.285>with <00:41:58.565>your <00:41:58.845>microphone.

972
00:41:59.485 --> 00:42:01.965
<00:41:59.485>I <00:41:59.625>hear <00:41:59.765>this <00:41:59.905>me <00:42:00.045>Meb <00:42:00.185>sound <00:42:00.325>that <00:42:00.465>I <00:42:00.605>hadn't <00:42:00.745>sound <00:42:00.885>heard,

973
00:42:01.975 --> 00:42:03.125
<00:42:01.975>heard <00:42:02.319>since <00:42:02.665>the <00:42:03.010>nineties.

974
00:42:03.705 --> 00:42:06.165
<00:42:03.705>So <00:42:03.904>I <00:42:04.105>dunno, <00:42:04.305>what's, <00:42:04.505>what's <00:42:04.705>going <00:42:04.904>on <00:42:05.105>there?

975
00:42:06.165 --> 00:42:07.205
<00:42:06.165>This <00:42:06.477>is <00:42:06.788>really <00:42:07.101>incredible

976
00:42:07.875 --> 00:42:11.325
<00:42:07.875>because <00:42:08.030>I <00:42:08.186>remember <00:42:08.341>these <00:42:08.497>gaming, <00:42:08.652>this <00:42:08.808>gaming, <00:42:08.963>uh, <00:42:09.119>uh, <00:42:09.275>uh,

977
00:42:11.385 --> 00:42:14.205
<00:42:11.385>um, <00:42:11.585>uh, <00:42:11.785>like <00:42:11.985>speakers <00:42:12.185>when <00:42:12.385>it's <00:42:12.585>that <00:42:12.785>like

978
00:42:14.205 --> 00:42:15.565
<00:42:14.205>before <00:42:14.511>your <00:42:14.817>telephone <00:42:15.123>would <00:42:15.429>ring,

979
00:42:15.565 --> 00:42:16.645
<00:42:15.565>they <00:42:15.759>would <00:42:15.953>do <00:42:16.148>the <00:42:16.342>three <00:42:16.537>sounds

980
00:42:16.665 --> 00:42:17.965
<00:42:16.665>and <00:42:16.899>then <00:42:17.133>the <00:42:17.367>telephone <00:42:17.601>would <00:42:17.835>ring.

981
00:42:17.965 --> 00:42:19.845
<00:42:17.965>And <00:42:18.140>I <00:42:18.315>got, <00:42:18.490>I <00:42:18.665>just <00:42:18.840>got <00:42:19.015>the <00:42:19.190>same <00:42:19.365>sound.

982
00:42:19.845 --> 00:42:23.005
<00:42:19.845>That <00:42:20.194>was <00:42:20.544>really <00:42:20.895>bizarre. <00:42:21.245>Cool.

983
00:42:23.445 --> 00:42:25.445
<00:42:23.445>I, <00:42:23.600>I <00:42:23.756>was <00:42:23.911>wondering <00:42:24.067>about <00:42:24.222>from, <00:42:24.378>from <00:42:24.533>like <00:42:24.689>a <00:42:24.845>game,

984
00:42:25.665 --> 00:42:27.085
<00:42:25.665>if <00:42:25.920>you're <00:42:26.176>building <00:42:26.431>a <00:42:26.687>game, <00:42:26.943>um,

985
00:42:27.785 --> 00:42:29.365
<00:42:27.785>and <00:42:28.065>you've <00:42:28.345>got <00:42:28.625>AI <00:42:28.904>in, <00:42:29.185>okay,

986
00:42:29.365 --> 00:42:30.845
<00:42:29.365>this <00:42:29.531>is <00:42:29.698>gonna <00:42:29.864>sound <00:42:30.031>like <00:42:30.197>a <00:42:30.363>very <00:42:30.530>silly <00:42:30.696>question,

987
00:42:30.865 --> 00:42:31.845
<00:42:30.865>but <00:42:31.041>it's <00:42:31.217>just <00:42:31.394>something <00:42:31.570>I've <00:42:31.747>never

988
00:42:31.845 --> 00:42:32.805
<00:42:31.845>really <00:42:32.060>thought <00:42:32.277>of <00:42:32.493>until <00:42:32.709>now.

989
00:42:33.065 --> 00:42:34.485
<00:42:33.065>So <00:42:33.278>if <00:42:33.491>I'm <00:42:33.704>playing <00:42:33.917>an <00:42:34.130>online <00:42:34.343>game

990
00:42:34.625 --> 00:42:39.245
<00:42:34.625>and <00:42:34.741>it's <00:42:34.858>got <00:42:34.975>AI <00:42:35.091>in <00:42:35.208>it <00:42:35.325>in <00:42:35.441>2025, <00:42:35.558>is <00:42:35.675>it <00:42:35.791>gonna <00:42:35.908>be <00:42:36.025>sort

991
00:42:39.245 --> 00:42:40.405
<00:42:39.245>of <00:42:39.767>all <00:42:40.289>self-contained?

992
00:42:40.405 --> 00:42:42.885
<00:42:40.405>Like <00:42:40.532>so <00:42:40.659>it's <00:42:40.786>all <00:42:40.914>local, <00:42:41.041>you <00:42:41.168>know, <00:42:41.295>that <00:42:41.423>all <00:42:41.550>of <00:42:41.677>that, <00:42:41.805>that

993
00:42:43.665 --> 00:42:46.325
<00:42:43.665>AI <00:42:43.805>ness <00:42:43.945>is <00:42:44.085>now <00:42:44.225>just <00:42:44.365>like <00:42:44.505>a <00:42:44.645>kind <00:42:44.785>of <00:42:44.925>flow <00:42:45.065>chart

994
00:42:46.325 --> 00:42:48.205
<00:42:46.325>of <00:42:46.558>decisions <00:42:46.791>being <00:42:47.024>made <00:42:47.258>by <00:42:47.491>the <00:42:47.725>characters,

995
00:42:48.225 --> 00:42:50.085
<00:42:48.225>and <00:42:48.400>it's <00:42:48.575>kind <00:42:48.750>of <00:42:48.924>been <00:42:49.100>boiled <00:42:49.275>down <00:42:49.450>to <00:42:49.625>something

996
00:42:50.085 --> 00:42:51.685
<00:42:50.085>that's <00:42:50.551>not <00:42:51.018>really <00:42:51.485>ai,

997
00:42:51.685 --> 00:42:53.605
<00:42:51.685>but <00:42:51.840>it's <00:42:51.996>just, <00:42:52.151>like <00:42:52.307>I <00:42:52.462>said, <00:42:52.618>a <00:42:52.773>complex <00:42:52.929>flow <00:42:53.085>chart,

998
00:42:53.945 --> 00:42:57.405
<00:42:53.945>or <00:42:54.072>is <00:42:54.199>it <00:42:54.326>gonna <00:42:54.454>kind <00:42:54.581>of <00:42:54.708>doing <00:42:54.835>external <00:42:54.963>like <00:42:55.090>almost <00:42:55.217>API <00:42:55.345>calls,

999
00:42:57.625 --> 00:42:59.685
<00:42:57.625>you <00:42:57.765>know, <00:42:57.905>it, <00:42:58.045>it <00:42:58.185>feels <00:42:58.325>like <00:42:58.465>that <00:42:58.605>would <00:42:58.745>get <00:42:58.885>very <00:42:59.025>expensive

1000
00:42:59.685 --> 00:43:02.525
<00:42:59.685>and <00:42:59.884>very, <00:43:00.085>um, <00:43:00.285>like <00:43:00.485>would <00:43:00.685>lag <00:43:00.884>your, <00:43:01.085>your,

1001
00:43:02.525 --> 00:43:03.565
<00:43:02.525>your <00:43:02.837>software <00:43:03.149>I'd <00:43:03.461>imagine.

1002
00:43:03.585 --> 00:43:05.125
<00:43:03.585>But <00:43:03.783>can, <00:43:03.981>can <00:43:04.179>you <00:43:04.377>explain <00:43:04.575>how <00:43:04.773>that <00:43:04.971>works?

1003
00:43:05.365 --> 00:43:06.965
<00:43:05.365>'cause <00:43:05.520>I've <00:43:05.676>just <00:43:05.831>never <00:43:05.987>really <00:43:06.142>thought <00:43:06.298>of <00:43:06.453>it <00:43:06.609>until <00:43:06.765>now,

1004
00:43:07.105 --> 00:43:08.725
<00:43:07.105>how <00:43:07.305>AI <00:43:07.505>is <00:43:07.705>packaged <00:43:07.905>in <00:43:08.105>the <00:43:08.305>game. <00:43:08.505>Um,

1005
00:43:09.035 --> 00:43:10.445
<00:43:09.035>Yeah, <00:43:09.352>yeah, <00:43:09.669>it <00:43:09.986>really <00:43:10.304>depends.

1006
00:43:10.445 --> 00:43:13.765
<00:43:10.445>Like <00:43:10.585>again, <00:43:10.725>um, <00:43:10.865>the, <00:43:11.005>the <00:43:11.145>term <00:43:11.285>AI <00:43:11.425>in <00:43:11.565>games <00:43:11.705>is <00:43:11.845>something

1007
00:43:14.215 --> 00:43:15.365
<00:43:14.215>where, <00:43:14.473>again, <00:43:14.732>where <00:43:14.991>we <00:43:15.250>need

1008
00:43:15.365 --> 00:43:18.325
<00:43:15.365>to <00:43:15.504>mention <00:43:15.645>very <00:43:15.785>often <00:43:15.924>is <00:43:16.064>the <00:43:16.205>delusion <00:43:16.345>of, <00:43:16.484>of, <00:43:16.625>of <00:43:16.765>ai.

1009
00:43:18.545 --> 00:43:22.005
<00:43:18.545>So <00:43:18.685>most <00:43:18.825>of <00:43:18.965>the <00:43:19.105>systems <00:43:19.245>are <00:43:19.385>not <00:43:19.525>really <00:43:19.665>cost, <00:43:19.805>uh, <00:43:19.945>intensive

1010
00:43:22.265 --> 00:43:23.805
<00:43:22.265>or <00:43:22.727>re <00:43:23.189>resource <00:43:23.651>intensive.

1011
00:43:24.305 --> 00:43:26.645
<00:43:24.305>But, <00:43:24.504>um, <00:43:24.705>to <00:43:24.904>answer <00:43:25.105>your <00:43:25.305>question <00:43:25.504>still, <00:43:25.705>um,

1012
00:43:26.665 --> 00:43:29.805
<00:43:26.665>if <00:43:26.820>we <00:43:26.976>do <00:43:27.131>have <00:43:27.287>more <00:43:27.442>heavy <00:43:27.598>systems, <00:43:27.753>um, <00:43:27.909>which <00:43:28.065>want

1013
00:43:29.805 --> 00:43:31.365
<00:43:29.805>to <00:43:30.271>have <00:43:30.738>online <00:43:31.205>calculations,

1014
00:43:31.505 --> 00:43:34.005
<00:43:31.505>it <00:43:31.705>really <00:43:31.905>depends <00:43:32.105>on <00:43:32.305>the <00:43:32.505>sort <00:43:32.705>of <00:43:32.905>game.

1015
00:43:34.345 --> 00:43:36.165
<00:43:34.345>If <00:43:34.520>you <00:43:34.694>do <00:43:34.870>know <00:43:35.044>that <00:43:35.220>this <00:43:35.395>is <00:43:35.569>a <00:43:35.745>game

1016
00:43:36.215 --> 00:43:39.365
<00:43:36.215>where <00:43:36.342>the <00:43:36.469>user <00:43:36.596>is <00:43:36.724>very <00:43:36.851>likely <00:43:36.978>to <00:43:37.105>have <00:43:37.233>a <00:43:37.360>very <00:43:37.487>strong <00:43:37.615>client,

1017
00:43:39.945 --> 00:43:42.605
<00:43:39.945>um, <00:43:40.145>then <00:43:40.345>you <00:43:40.545>can <00:43:40.745>calculate <00:43:40.945>it <00:43:41.145>client <00:43:41.345>wise.

1018
00:43:43.185 --> 00:43:45.405
<00:43:43.185>Um, <00:43:43.325>if <00:43:43.465>you, <00:43:43.605>if <00:43:43.745>if <00:43:43.884>it's <00:43:44.025>some <00:43:44.165>sort <00:43:44.305>of <00:43:44.445>a <00:43:44.585>game

1019
00:43:45.535 --> 00:43:48.725
<00:43:45.535>where <00:43:45.734>you <00:43:45.935>might <00:43:46.134>want <00:43:46.335>to <00:43:46.535>stream <00:43:46.734>things, <00:43:46.935>um,

1020
00:43:48.825 --> 00:43:50.405
<00:43:48.825>you <00:43:49.105>have <00:43:49.384>sent <00:43:49.665>some, <00:43:49.944>some <00:43:50.225>packages

1021
00:43:50.405 --> 00:43:53.365
<00:43:50.405>and <00:43:50.545>you <00:43:50.685>do <00:43:50.825>have <00:43:50.965>the <00:43:51.105>capacity <00:43:51.245>and <00:43:51.385>the <00:43:51.525>sort <00:43:51.665>of <00:43:51.805>game,

1022
00:43:53.745 --> 00:43:56.205
<00:43:53.745>but <00:43:53.920>also <00:43:54.095>the <00:43:54.270>sort <00:43:54.444>of <00:43:54.620>target <00:43:54.795>group <00:43:54.970>would <00:43:55.145>work

1023
00:43:56.205 --> 00:43:59.085
<00:43:56.205>with <00:43:56.380>the <00:43:56.555>system, <00:43:56.730>you <00:43:56.904>could <00:43:57.080>also <00:43:57.255>make <00:43:57.430>server <00:43:57.605>calculations.

1024
00:43:59.305 --> 00:44:02.165
<00:43:59.305>But <00:43:59.444>again, <00:43:59.585>it <00:43:59.725>always <00:43:59.865>depends <00:44:00.004>right <00:44:00.145>on, <00:44:00.285>on <00:44:00.424>the <00:44:00.565>target <00:44:00.705>group.

1025
00:44:02.265 --> 00:44:06.565
<00:44:02.265>Um, <00:44:02.381>if, <00:44:02.498>if, <00:44:02.615>if <00:44:02.731>this <00:44:02.848>is <00:44:02.964>a <00:44:03.081>game <00:44:03.198>where <00:44:03.315>it's <00:44:03.431>very <00:44:03.548>less <00:44:03.665>likely

1026
00:44:07.115 --> 00:44:11.565
<00:44:07.115>that <00:44:07.314>someone <00:44:07.515>does <00:44:07.714>have <00:44:07.915>a <00:44:08.115>very <00:44:08.314>lovely <00:44:08.515>machine

1027
00:44:11.595 --> 00:44:15.085
<00:44:11.595>with <00:44:11.770>a <00:44:11.944>very <00:44:12.120>good <00:44:12.294>modern <00:44:12.470>GPU, <00:44:12.645>you <00:44:12.819>might <00:44:12.995>want

1028
00:44:15.145 --> 00:44:18.245
<00:44:15.145>to <00:44:15.495>avoid <00:44:15.845>those <00:44:16.195>calculations <00:44:16.545>anyway.

1029
00:44:18.425 --> 00:44:20.445
<00:44:18.425>Um, <00:44:18.625>so <00:44:18.825>it <00:44:19.025>really <00:44:19.225>depends <00:44:19.425>on <00:44:19.625>the <00:44:19.825>sort

1030
00:44:20.445 --> 00:44:21.485
<00:44:20.445>of <00:44:20.632>game <00:44:20.819>and <00:44:21.006>the <00:44:21.193>target <00:44:21.381>group.

1031
00:44:23.115 --> 00:44:25.245
<00:44:23.115>Well, <00:44:23.290>you <00:44:23.464>talked <00:44:23.640>about <00:44:23.814>that <00:44:23.990>we <00:44:24.165>do <00:44:24.339>like, <00:44:24.515>uh,

1032
00:44:25.245 --> 00:44:27.605
<00:44:25.245>image <00:44:25.444>generation <00:44:25.645>and <00:44:25.845>we <00:44:26.045>do <00:44:26.245>like <00:44:26.444>audio <00:44:26.645>generation

1033
00:44:27.665 --> 00:44:29.125
<00:44:27.665>and <00:44:28.103>also <00:44:28.541>music <00:44:28.979>generation.

1034
00:44:29.465 --> 00:44:32.285
<00:44:29.465>But <00:44:29.605>of <00:44:29.745>course <00:44:29.885>there <00:44:30.025>is <00:44:30.165>like <00:44:30.305>the, <00:44:30.445>uh, <00:44:30.585>I <00:44:30.725>mean <00:44:30.865>even

1035
00:44:32.285 --> 00:44:35.165
<00:44:32.285>before <00:44:32.440>we <00:44:32.596>thought <00:44:32.751>about <00:44:32.907>ai, <00:44:33.062>there <00:44:33.218>was <00:44:33.373>like <00:44:33.529>generative, <00:44:33.685>uh,

1036
00:44:35.305 --> 00:44:38.805
<00:44:35.305>art <00:44:35.480>in, <00:44:35.654>uh, <00:44:35.830>in <00:44:36.004>games <00:44:36.180>and <00:44:36.355>endless <00:44:36.529>game <00:44:36.705>maps

1037
00:44:38.805 --> 00:44:41.405
<00:44:38.805>because <00:44:39.004>they <00:44:39.205>actually <00:44:39.404>became <00:44:39.605>generated <00:44:39.805>as <00:44:40.004>you <00:44:40.205>go.

1038
00:44:41.945 --> 00:44:43.845
<00:44:41.945>Do <00:44:42.085>you <00:44:42.225>think <00:44:42.365>that's <00:44:42.505>gonna <00:44:42.645>be <00:44:42.785>a <00:44:42.925>bigger <00:44:43.065>thing <00:44:43.205>as <00:44:43.345>well?

1039
00:44:43.845 --> 00:44:46.765
<00:44:43.845>Like <00:44:43.984>mean, <00:44:44.125>because <00:44:44.265>I <00:44:44.404>mean, <00:44:44.544>we, <00:44:44.685>you <00:44:44.825>want <00:44:44.964>kind <00:44:45.105>of <00:44:45.245>to

1040
00:44:47.455 --> 00:44:48.845
<00:44:47.455>limit <00:44:47.767>your <00:44:48.080>world <00:44:48.393>of <00:44:48.705>Warcraft,

1041
00:44:48.905 --> 00:44:51.085
<00:44:48.905>but <00:44:49.080>at <00:44:49.255>the <00:44:49.430>same <00:44:49.605>time, <00:44:49.780>it's <00:44:49.955>much <00:44:50.130>easier <00:44:50.305>nowadays

1042
00:44:51.085 --> 00:44:52.885
<00:44:51.085>to <00:44:51.260>get <00:44:51.435>it <00:44:51.610>generated <00:44:51.785>for <00:44:51.960>you <00:44:52.135>rather <00:44:52.310>than <00:44:52.485>than

1043
00:44:53.285 --> 00:44:54.405
<00:44:53.285>planning <00:44:53.486>the <00:44:53.688>whole <00:44:53.889>thing <00:44:54.091>out, <00:44:54.293>right?

1044
00:44:55.185 --> 00:44:57.125
<00:44:55.185>Um, <00:44:55.418>so <00:44:55.651>you're <00:44:55.884>opening <00:44:56.118>a <00:44:56.351>Pandora's <00:44:56.585>box.

1045
00:44:57.185 --> 00:44:59.885
<00:44:57.185>So <00:44:57.312>what <00:44:57.439>we <00:44:57.566>had <00:44:57.694>in <00:44:57.821>the <00:44:57.948>past, <00:44:58.075>um, <00:44:58.203>was <00:44:58.330>always <00:44:58.457>the <00:44:58.585>procedural,

1046
00:45:00.025 --> 00:45:01.245
<00:45:00.025>um, <00:45:00.574>content <00:45:01.123>generation.

1047
00:45:01.385 --> 00:45:04.125
<00:45:01.385>Um, <00:45:01.560>we <00:45:01.735>like <00:45:01.910>where <00:45:02.085>you <00:45:02.260>have <00:45:02.435>one <00:45:02.610>smart <00:45:02.785>formula

1048
00:45:04.345 --> 00:45:07.045
<00:45:04.345>or <00:45:04.500>everywhere, <00:45:04.656>um, <00:45:04.811>which <00:45:04.967>is <00:45:05.122>creating <00:45:05.278>then <00:45:05.433>the <00:45:05.589>full <00:45:05.745>world

1049
00:45:07.045 --> 00:45:10.205
<00:45:07.045>with <00:45:07.200>you, <00:45:07.356>for <00:45:07.511>instance, <00:45:07.667>like <00:45:07.822>a <00:45:07.978>wildlife <00:45:08.133>Minecraft <00:45:08.289>is <00:45:08.445>always,

1050
00:45:10.385 --> 00:45:14.125
<00:45:10.385>uh, <00:45:10.540>um, <00:45:10.696>um, <00:45:10.851>created <00:45:11.007>from <00:45:11.162>scratch <00:45:11.318>based <00:45:11.473>on <00:45:11.629>pearl <00:45:11.785>noise.

1051
00:45:14.585 --> 00:45:16.205
<00:45:14.585>And <00:45:14.865>this <00:45:15.145>is <00:45:15.425>something, <00:45:15.705>um, <00:45:15.985>again,

1052
00:45:16.205 --> 00:45:19.445
<00:45:16.205>which <00:45:16.345>has <00:45:16.485>been <00:45:16.625>existing <00:45:16.765>in <00:45:16.904>games, <00:45:17.045>um, <00:45:17.185>for, <00:45:17.325>for <00:45:17.465>decades <00:45:17.605>as,

1053
00:45:19.465 --> 00:45:22.285
<00:45:19.465>um, <00:45:19.592>like <00:45:19.719>also <00:45:19.846>like <00:45:19.974>it <00:45:20.101>was, <00:45:20.228>this <00:45:20.355>is <00:45:20.483>also <00:45:20.610>something <00:45:20.737>it, <00:45:20.865>um,

1054
00:45:22.425 --> 00:45:24.965
<00:45:22.425>was, <00:45:22.705>was <00:45:22.985>really <00:45:23.265>inspired <00:45:23.545>by <00:45:23.825>limitations

1055
00:45:24.965 --> 00:45:28.085
<00:45:24.965>because <00:45:25.105>back <00:45:25.245>then <00:45:25.385>the <00:45:25.525>memory <00:45:25.665>was <00:45:25.805>very <00:45:25.945>limited <00:45:26.085>to <00:45:26.225>the <00:45:26.365>people

1056
00:45:28.265 --> 00:45:30.045
<00:45:28.265>who <00:45:28.498>wanted <00:45:28.731>to <00:45:28.964>still <00:45:29.198>have <00:45:29.431>a <00:45:29.665>huge

1057
00:45:31.005 --> 00:45:35.205
<00:45:31.005>universe <00:45:31.145>in <00:45:31.285>a <00:45:31.425>game <00:45:31.565>like <00:45:31.705>elite, <00:45:31.845>uh, <00:45:31.985>18, <00:45:32.125>19 <00:45:32.265>80 <00:45:32.405>something.

1058
00:45:35.585 --> 00:45:37.965
<00:45:35.585>Um, <00:45:35.818>they <00:45:36.051>needed <00:45:36.285>to <00:45:36.518>be <00:45:36.751>smart, <00:45:36.985>creative

1059
00:45:38.145 --> 00:45:39.845
<00:45:38.145>and <00:45:38.495>really <00:45:38.845>think <00:45:39.195>about <00:45:39.545>resources

1060
00:45:39.845 --> 00:45:41.205
<00:45:39.845>and <00:45:40.049>how <00:45:40.252>to <00:45:40.457>make <00:45:40.661>a <00:45:40.865>smart <00:45:41.069>algorithm

1061
00:45:41.225 --> 00:45:43.325
<00:45:41.225>to <00:45:41.458>make <00:45:41.691>a <00:45:41.924>full <00:45:42.158>fledged <00:45:42.391>world <00:45:42.625>happening.

1062
00:45:44.065 --> 00:45:47.445
<00:45:44.065>Um, <00:45:44.298>these <00:45:44.531>days, <00:45:44.765>um, <00:45:44.998>with <00:45:45.231>generate <00:45:45.465>DAI,

1063
00:45:47.445 --> 00:45:50.125
<00:45:47.445>there's <00:45:47.725>a <00:45:48.005>entirely <00:45:48.285>different <00:45:48.565>discussion, <00:45:48.845>um,

1064
00:45:50.125 --> 00:45:51.845
<00:45:50.125>because <00:45:50.405>again, <00:45:50.685>this <00:45:50.965>is <00:45:51.245>this <00:45:51.525>ethical

1065
00:45:51.845 --> 00:45:53.045
<00:45:51.845>discussion <00:45:52.205>I <00:45:52.565>mentioned <00:45:52.925>earlier.

1066
00:45:53.465 --> 00:45:56.365
<00:45:53.465>So <00:45:53.620>a <00:45:53.776>lot <00:45:53.931>of, <00:45:54.087>um, <00:45:54.242>game <00:45:54.398>developers, <00:45:54.553>game <00:45:54.709>designers, <00:45:54.865>artists,

1067
00:45:56.825 --> 00:45:58.205
<00:45:56.825>um, <00:45:57.135>sound <00:45:57.446>designers <00:45:57.756>and <00:45:58.067>so

1068
00:45:58.205 --> 00:46:00.965
<00:45:58.205>and <00:45:58.438>so <00:45:58.671>forth, <00:45:58.904>um, <00:45:59.138>do <00:45:59.371>have, <00:45:59.605>uh,

1069
00:46:02.085 --> 00:46:03.365
<00:46:02.085>absolutely <00:46:02.661>correct <00:46:03.236>concerns

1070
00:46:03.365 --> 00:46:07.965
<00:46:03.365>because <00:46:03.540>this <00:46:03.714>was <00:46:03.890>trained <00:46:04.064>often <00:46:04.240>eventually <00:46:04.415>on <00:46:04.589>data <00:46:04.765>which

1071
00:46:08.945 --> 00:46:12.245
<00:46:08.945>the <00:46:09.072>companies <00:46:09.199>did, <00:46:09.326>might <00:46:09.454>not <00:46:09.581>have <00:46:09.708>had <00:46:09.835>the <00:46:09.963>rights <00:46:10.090>to <00:46:10.217>use <00:46:10.345>it.

1072
00:46:12.705 --> 00:46:15.685
<00:46:12.705>Um, <00:46:12.880>so <00:46:13.055>it's <00:46:13.230>not <00:46:13.404>really <00:46:13.580>clear, <00:46:13.755>for <00:46:13.930>instance, <00:46:14.105>for

1073
00:46:15.685 --> 00:46:17.005
<00:46:15.685>for <00:46:15.854>the <00:46:16.024>images <00:46:16.194>and <00:46:16.363>so <00:46:16.533>and <00:46:16.703>so <00:46:16.873>forth.

1074
00:46:17.125 --> 00:46:18.485
<00:46:17.125>I <00:46:17.329>mean, <00:46:17.533>we <00:46:17.737>do <00:46:17.941>know <00:46:18.145>this <00:46:18.349>discussion.

1075
00:46:18.505 --> 00:46:19.925
<00:46:18.505>I'm, <00:46:18.687>I'm <00:46:18.870>not <00:46:19.052>sure <00:46:19.235>we, <00:46:19.417>if <00:46:19.600>we <00:46:19.783>want

1076
00:46:19.925 --> 00:46:22.125
<00:46:19.925>to <00:46:20.158>open <00:46:20.391>this <00:46:20.625>Pando <00:46:20.858>box <00:46:21.091>these <00:46:21.325>days,

1077
00:46:22.505 --> 00:46:25.685
<00:46:22.505>and <00:46:22.680>a <00:46:22.855>lot <00:46:23.030>of <00:46:23.205>companies <00:46:23.380>are <00:46:23.555>now <00:46:23.730>reworking, <00:46:23.905>um,

1078
00:46:25.765 --> 00:46:27.605
<00:46:25.765>a <00:46:25.920>little <00:46:26.076>bit <00:46:26.231>the <00:46:26.387>ideas, <00:46:26.542>if <00:46:26.698>they <00:46:26.853>use <00:46:27.009>for <00:46:27.165>instance,

1079
00:46:27.605 --> 00:46:31.085
<00:46:27.605>those <00:46:27.760>tiny <00:46:27.916>LMM <00:46:28.071>systems <00:46:28.227>based <00:46:28.382>only <00:46:28.538>on <00:46:28.693>the <00:46:28.849>internal <00:46:29.005>artist

1080
00:46:31.235 --> 00:46:34.525
<00:46:31.235>data, <00:46:31.375>um, <00:46:31.515>for <00:46:31.655>instance, <00:46:31.795>on, <00:46:31.935>on <00:46:32.075>their <00:46:32.215>consent <00:46:32.355>to <00:46:32.495>make <00:46:32.635>sure

1081
00:46:34.555 --> 00:46:36.845
<00:46:34.555>that <00:46:34.730>they <00:46:34.904>are <00:46:35.080>being <00:46:35.254>paid <00:46:35.430>in <00:46:35.605>a <00:46:35.779>proper <00:46:35.955>way.

1082
00:46:36.945 --> 00:46:40.365
<00:46:36.945>And, <00:46:37.120>uh, <00:46:37.295>they <00:46:37.470>are <00:46:37.645>just <00:46:37.820>being, <00:46:37.995>um, <00:46:38.170>introduced <00:46:38.345>and,

1083
00:46:40.385 --> 00:46:43.245
<00:46:40.385>and <00:46:40.585>a <00:46:40.785>proper, <00:46:40.985>proper <00:46:41.185>and <00:46:41.385>ethical <00:46:41.585>nice <00:46:41.785>way,

1084
00:46:43.305 --> 00:46:45.245
<00:46:43.305>but <00:46:43.654>also <00:46:44.004>artistically <00:46:44.355>interesting <00:46:44.705>way

1085
00:46:45.245 --> 00:46:47.925
<00:46:45.245>because <00:46:45.478>let's, <00:46:45.711>let's <00:46:45.944>be <00:46:46.178>honest, <00:46:46.411>like, <00:46:46.645>um,

1086
00:46:48.025 --> 00:46:50.965
<00:46:48.025>you <00:46:48.225>can <00:46:48.425>see <00:46:48.625>it <00:46:48.825>very <00:46:49.025>often <00:46:49.225>if <00:46:49.425>some

1087
00:46:50.965 --> 00:46:54.485
<00:46:50.965>of <00:46:51.092>the <00:46:51.219>games <00:46:51.346>being <00:46:51.474>released <00:46:51.601>these <00:46:51.728>days <00:46:51.855>do <00:46:51.983>have <00:46:52.110>a <00:46:52.237>lot <00:46:52.365>of

1088
00:46:55.005 --> 00:46:57.445
<00:46:55.005>a <00:46:55.285>ai, <00:46:55.565>uh, <00:46:55.845>assets <00:46:56.125>in <00:46:56.405>there.

1089
00:46:58.075 --> 00:47:00.805
<00:46:58.075>Same, <00:46:58.214>same <00:46:58.355>is <00:46:58.495>true <00:46:58.634>with <00:46:58.774>sound, <00:46:58.915>uh, <00:46:59.055>and <00:46:59.194>so, <00:46:59.335>so <00:46:59.475>forth.

1090
00:47:01.225 --> 00:47:02.685
<00:47:01.225>But <00:47:01.553>what <00:47:01.882>is <00:47:02.210>quite <00:47:02.538>interesting,

1091
00:47:02.705 --> 00:47:04.925
<00:47:02.705>and <00:47:02.880>this <00:47:03.055>is <00:47:03.230>this <00:47:03.404>I <00:47:03.580>want <00:47:03.755>to <00:47:03.930>point <00:47:04.105>out,

1092
00:47:04.985 --> 00:47:07.605
<00:47:04.985>is <00:47:05.218>a <00:47:05.451>very <00:47:05.685>interesting <00:47:05.918>new <00:47:06.151>chance, <00:47:06.385>um,

1093
00:47:07.795 --> 00:47:10.765
<00:47:07.795>because <00:47:07.970>back <00:47:08.145>then <00:47:08.320>we <00:47:08.495>have <00:47:08.670>been <00:47:08.845>excited <00:47:09.020>about, <00:47:09.195>um,

1094
00:47:11.195 --> 00:47:13.925
<00:47:11.195>with <00:47:11.395>procedural <00:47:11.595>content <00:47:11.795>generation <00:47:11.995>that <00:47:12.195>we <00:47:12.395>can <00:47:12.595>all

1095
00:47:13.925 --> 00:47:15.845
<00:47:13.925>of <00:47:14.125>a <00:47:14.325>sudden <00:47:14.525>have <00:47:14.725>those <00:47:14.925>really <00:47:15.125>open <00:47:15.325>worlds,

1096
00:47:16.335 --> 00:47:19.885
<00:47:16.335>which <00:47:16.475>is <00:47:16.615>then <00:47:16.755>always <00:47:16.895>a <00:47:17.035>little <00:47:17.175>bit <00:47:17.315>of <00:47:17.455>a, <00:47:17.595>a <00:47:17.735>balance

1097
00:47:19.955 --> 00:47:22.285
<00:47:19.955>between <00:47:20.235>if <00:47:20.515>it's <00:47:20.795>too <00:47:21.075>open <00:47:21.355>it

1098
00:47:22.305 --> 00:47:27.085
<00:47:22.305>and <00:47:22.480>it's, <00:47:22.654>if <00:47:22.830>it's <00:47:23.004>like <00:47:23.180>obviously <00:47:23.355>not <00:47:23.529>created, <00:47:23.705>um,

1099
00:47:27.425 --> 00:47:31.725
<00:47:27.425>by <00:47:27.600>the, <00:47:27.775>our <00:47:27.950>game <00:47:28.125>designers, <00:47:28.300>uh, <00:47:28.475>trainer <00:47:28.650>thought <00:47:28.825>and,

1100
00:47:31.745 --> 00:47:36.205
<00:47:31.745>and <00:47:31.944>inspiration, <00:47:32.145>you <00:47:32.345>might <00:47:32.545>still <00:47:32.745>lose <00:47:32.944>the <00:47:33.145>inspiration

1101
00:47:36.265 --> 00:47:38.805
<00:47:36.265>or <00:47:36.440>the, <00:47:36.615>the <00:47:36.790>vivid <00:47:36.964>the <00:47:37.140>spirit <00:47:37.315>of, <00:47:37.490>of <00:47:37.665>the,

1102
00:47:38.945 --> 00:47:40.805
<00:47:38.945>the <00:47:39.411>game <00:47:39.878>designer <00:47:40.345>basically.

1103
00:47:40.845 --> 00:47:43.125
<00:47:40.845>I <00:47:40.961>hope <00:47:41.078>this <00:47:41.194>makes <00:47:41.311>sense. <00:47:41.428>So <00:47:41.544>because <00:47:41.661>we <00:47:41.778>sort <00:47:41.895>of <00:47:42.011>have <00:47:42.128>a <00:47:42.245>wish

1104
00:47:43.125 --> 00:47:45.085
<00:47:43.125>and <00:47:43.280>we <00:47:43.436>want <00:47:43.591>to <00:47:43.747>give <00:47:43.902>this <00:47:44.058>to <00:47:44.213>players, <00:47:44.369>we <00:47:44.525>want

1105
00:47:45.085 --> 00:47:46.165
<00:47:45.085>to <00:47:45.328>have <00:47:45.571>a <00:47:45.814>open <00:47:46.057>world,

1106
00:47:46.345 --> 00:47:47.805
<00:47:46.345>but <00:47:46.673>we <00:47:47.002>still <00:47:47.330>want <00:47:47.658>them

1107
00:47:47.945 --> 00:47:50.725
<00:47:47.945>to <00:47:48.120>have <00:47:48.295>a <00:47:48.470>certain <00:47:48.645>experience <00:47:48.820>as <00:47:48.995>a <00:47:49.170>game <00:47:49.345>designer.

1108
00:47:51.425 --> 00:47:54.285
<00:47:51.425>Um, <00:47:51.565>so <00:47:51.705>it <00:47:51.845>was <00:47:51.985>always <00:47:52.125>a <00:47:52.265>little <00:47:52.405>bit <00:47:52.545>of <00:47:52.685>a <00:47:52.825>combination

1109
00:47:54.285 --> 00:47:56.245
<00:47:54.285>between <00:47:54.634>using <00:47:54.984>those <00:47:55.335>open <00:47:55.685>worlds,

1110
00:47:56.865 --> 00:47:59.525
<00:47:56.865>but <00:47:57.040>balancing <00:47:57.214>in <00:47:57.390>a, <00:47:57.564>in <00:47:57.740>a <00:47:57.915>way <00:47:58.089>that <00:47:58.265>people,

1111
00:48:00.035 --> 00:48:01.805
<00:48:00.035>that <00:48:00.234>the <00:48:00.435>game <00:48:00.634>designer <00:48:00.835>still <00:48:01.035>have <00:48:01.234>a <00:48:01.435>full

1112
00:48:01.805 --> 00:48:03.045
<00:48:01.805>control <00:48:02.084>of <00:48:02.363>what <00:48:02.642>is <00:48:02.921>happening.

1113
00:48:03.305 --> 00:48:06.365
<00:48:03.305>And <00:48:03.480>the <00:48:03.654>same <00:48:03.830>is <00:48:04.004>true <00:48:04.180>now, <00:48:04.355>um, <00:48:04.529>not <00:48:04.705>only

1114
00:48:06.475 --> 00:48:08.485
<00:48:06.475>with <00:48:06.755>the <00:48:07.035>world, <00:48:07.315>but <00:48:07.595>with <00:48:07.875>stories.

1115
00:48:09.105 --> 00:48:11.605
<00:48:09.105>And <00:48:09.338>this <00:48:09.571>is <00:48:09.805>quite <00:48:10.038>an <00:48:10.271>interesting <00:48:10.505>research

1116
00:48:11.745 --> 00:48:14.565
<00:48:11.745>and <00:48:11.944>development <00:48:12.145>perspective <00:48:12.345>we're <00:48:12.545>having <00:48:12.745>these <00:48:12.944>days <00:48:13.145>so

1117
00:48:14.565 --> 00:48:18.205
<00:48:14.565>that <00:48:14.720>we <00:48:14.876>don't <00:48:15.031>only <00:48:15.187>have <00:48:15.342>the <00:48:15.498>open <00:48:15.653>worlds <00:48:15.809>again <00:48:15.965>infused

1118
00:48:18.205 --> 00:48:21.725
<00:48:18.205>by <00:48:18.345>the <00:48:18.485>game <00:48:18.625>designer, <00:48:18.765>but <00:48:18.904>that <00:48:19.045>we <00:48:19.185>also <00:48:19.325>have <00:48:19.465>open <00:48:19.605>stories

1119
00:48:22.035 --> 00:48:25.725
<00:48:22.035>with, <00:48:22.210>um, <00:48:22.384>LMS <00:48:22.560>for <00:48:22.734>instance, <00:48:22.910>where, <00:48:23.085>where <00:48:23.259>we <00:48:23.435>can

1120
00:48:26.565 --> 00:48:29.285
<00:48:26.565>replay <00:48:26.765>the <00:48:26.965>game <00:48:27.165>in <00:48:27.365>very <00:48:27.565>different, <00:48:27.765>uh, <00:48:27.965>ways

1121
00:48:29.335 --> 00:48:33.485
<00:48:29.335>where <00:48:29.462>we <00:48:29.589>can <00:48:29.716>talk <00:48:29.844>with <00:48:29.971>NPCs <00:48:30.098>in, <00:48:30.225>in <00:48:30.353>ways <00:48:30.480>we <00:48:30.607>were <00:48:30.735>able,

1122
00:48:33.825 --> 00:48:35.965
<00:48:33.825>we <00:48:34.000>were <00:48:34.174>never <00:48:34.350>able <00:48:34.524>to <00:48:34.700>talk <00:48:34.875>to <00:48:35.049>them <00:48:35.225>before.

1123
00:48:36.385 --> 00:48:40.045
<00:48:36.385>So <00:48:36.501>we <00:48:36.618>might <00:48:36.735>have <00:48:36.851>a <00:48:36.968>very <00:48:37.085>different <00:48:37.201>kind <00:48:37.318>of <00:48:37.435>game <00:48:37.551>kind <00:48:37.668>of <00:48:37.785>genre

1124
00:48:40.225 --> 00:48:41.365
<00:48:40.225>of <00:48:40.430>game <00:48:40.635>in, <00:48:40.840>in <00:48:41.045>the <00:48:41.250>future.

1125
00:48:41.945 --> 00:48:44.285
<00:48:41.945>Not <00:48:42.178>only <00:48:42.411>open <00:48:42.645>world, <00:48:42.878>but <00:48:43.111>open <00:48:43.345>story.

1126
00:48:44.465 --> 00:48:46.725
<00:48:44.465>And <00:48:44.640>this <00:48:44.815>is <00:48:44.990>this, <00:48:45.165>this <00:48:45.340>I <00:48:45.515>find <00:48:45.690>super <00:48:45.865>interesting.

1127
00:48:47.585 --> 00:48:49.285
<00:48:47.585>We <00:48:47.785>had <00:48:47.985>a <00:48:48.185>guest <00:48:48.385>here <00:48:48.585>on <00:48:48.785>the <00:48:48.985>show

1128
00:48:49.385 --> 00:48:51.765
<00:48:49.385>and <00:48:49.618>Dan <00:48:49.851>was <00:48:50.085>interviewing <00:48:50.318>them <00:48:50.551>in <00:48:50.785>detail

1129
00:48:51.765 --> 00:48:54.045
<00:48:51.765>that <00:48:51.998>were <00:48:52.231>doing <00:48:52.464>their <00:48:52.698>startup <00:48:52.931>from <00:48:53.165>Austria

1130
00:48:54.355 --> 00:48:57.765
<00:48:54.355>that <00:48:54.495>actually <00:48:54.635>allow <00:48:54.775>you <00:48:54.915>to <00:48:55.055>create, <00:48:55.195>uh, <00:48:55.335>stories <00:48:55.475>for <00:48:55.615>your <00:48:55.755>kids

1131
00:48:57.835 --> 00:48:59.645
<00:48:57.835>with <00:48:58.068>the <00:48:58.301>kids <00:48:58.535>as <00:48:58.768>the <00:48:59.001>main <00:48:59.235>character.

1132
00:49:00.185 --> 00:49:02.685
<00:49:00.185>So <00:49:00.325>Dan, <00:49:00.465>can <00:49:00.605>you <00:49:00.745>quickly <00:49:00.884>give <00:49:01.025>a <00:49:01.165>recap <00:49:01.305>on <00:49:01.445>that <00:49:01.585>one?

1133
00:49:02.845 --> 00:49:05.085
<00:49:02.845>'cause <00:49:03.000>that <00:49:03.156>might <00:49:03.311>be <00:49:03.467>what, <00:49:03.622>what <00:49:03.778>Joanna <00:49:03.933>was <00:49:04.089>talking <00:49:04.245>about

1134
00:49:05.105 --> 00:49:08.085
<00:49:05.105>as <00:49:05.280>well, <00:49:05.455>like <00:49:05.630>the <00:49:05.805>storytelling <00:49:05.980>thing <00:49:06.155>that <00:49:06.330>became <00:49:06.505>very

1135
00:49:08.755 --> 00:49:11.285
<00:49:08.755>formulaic <00:49:08.955>if <00:49:09.155>you <00:49:09.355>just <00:49:09.555>use <00:49:09.755>a <00:49:09.955>simple <00:49:10.155>LLM.

1136
00:49:12.095 --> 00:49:13.905
<00:49:12.095>Yeah. <00:49:12.270>Um, <00:49:12.444>I <00:49:12.620>think, <00:49:12.794>so <00:49:12.970>they, <00:49:13.145>they <00:49:13.319>were <00:49:13.495>sort

1137
00:49:13.905 --> 00:49:16.025
<00:49:13.905>of <00:49:14.032>saying <00:49:14.159>in <00:49:14.286>some <00:49:14.414>ways <00:49:14.541>it <00:49:14.668>was <00:49:14.795>borrowed <00:49:14.923>from <00:49:15.050>those <00:49:15.177>old <00:49:15.305>books,

1138
00:49:16.045 --> 00:49:18.785
<00:49:16.045>you <00:49:16.172>know, <00:49:16.299>the <00:49:16.426>ones <00:49:16.554>that <00:49:16.681>you <00:49:16.808>had, <00:49:16.935>um, <00:49:17.063>decide <00:49:17.190>your <00:49:17.317>own <00:49:17.445>story,

1139
00:49:18.885 --> 00:49:20.345
<00:49:18.885>and <00:49:19.049>it <00:49:19.213>was <00:49:19.377>sort <00:49:19.542>of, <00:49:19.706>if <00:49:19.870>you <00:49:20.034>say <00:49:20.198>yes

1140
00:49:20.345 --> 00:49:21.785
<00:49:20.345>to <00:49:20.560>this <00:49:20.777>person, <00:49:20.993>go <00:49:21.209>to <00:49:21.424>this <00:49:21.640>page.

1141
00:49:21.925 --> 00:49:24.025
<00:49:21.925>Um, <00:49:22.080>and <00:49:22.236>they, <00:49:22.391>they <00:49:22.547>said <00:49:22.702>that <00:49:22.858>it <00:49:23.013>was <00:49:23.169>this <00:49:23.325>idea

1142
00:49:24.025 --> 00:49:26.905
<00:49:24.025>of <00:49:24.375>like <00:49:24.725>really <00:49:25.075>hyper-personalized <00:49:25.425>experiences.

1143
00:49:27.085 --> 00:49:29.945
<00:49:27.085>And <00:49:27.225>so <00:49:27.365>things <00:49:27.505>like <00:49:27.645>games, <00:49:27.785>like <00:49:27.925>you're <00:49:28.065>saying <00:49:28.205>could <00:49:28.345>be, <00:49:28.485>um,

1144
00:49:30.055 --> 00:49:32.025
<00:49:30.055>there's <00:49:30.210>certain <00:49:30.366>parts <00:49:30.521>of <00:49:30.677>the <00:49:30.832>game <00:49:30.988>we've <00:49:31.143>got <00:49:31.299>in <00:49:31.455>common,

1145
00:49:32.225 --> 00:49:33.545
<00:49:32.225>a <00:49:32.423>certain <00:49:32.621>mission <00:49:32.819>that <00:49:33.017>we've <00:49:33.215>both <00:49:33.413>done,

1146
00:49:33.545 --> 00:49:35.785
<00:49:33.545>but <00:49:33.720>there <00:49:33.895>could <00:49:34.070>also <00:49:34.245>be <00:49:34.420>parts <00:49:34.595>that <00:49:34.770>you <00:49:34.945>experienced

1147
00:49:35.785 --> 00:49:37.505
<00:49:35.785>that <00:49:35.912>I <00:49:36.039>didn't, <00:49:36.166>you <00:49:36.294>know, <00:49:36.421>which <00:49:36.548>I <00:49:36.675>think <00:49:36.803>is <00:49:36.930>what <00:49:37.057>you <00:49:37.185>are,

1148
00:49:37.615 --> 00:49:39.985
<00:49:37.615>your <00:49:37.790>kind <00:49:37.964>of, <00:49:38.140>um, <00:49:38.314>you <00:49:38.490>know, <00:49:38.665>suggesting <00:49:38.839>there, <00:49:39.015>Johanna.

1149
00:49:39.985 --> 00:49:44.065
<00:49:39.985>But <00:49:40.112>then <00:49:40.239>in <00:49:40.366>this <00:49:40.494>book, <00:49:40.621>there's <00:49:40.748>a <00:49:40.875>similar, <00:49:41.003>um, <00:49:41.130>for <00:49:41.257>this, <00:49:41.385>uh,

1150
00:49:44.215 --> 00:49:45.785
<00:49:44.215>this <00:49:44.495>company <00:49:44.775>rather <00:49:45.055>they're <00:49:45.335>called <00:49:45.615>Oscar

1151
00:49:45.785 --> 00:49:47.145
<00:49:45.785>stories <00:49:46.192>in <00:49:46.601>their <00:49:47.009>books.

1152
00:49:47.145 --> 00:49:51.345
<00:49:47.145>They <00:49:47.285>have <00:49:47.425>a <00:49:47.565>similar <00:49:47.705>idea <00:49:47.845>that <00:49:47.985>you <00:49:48.125>have, <00:49:48.265>um, <00:49:48.405>similar <00:49:48.545>stories

1153
00:49:51.485 --> 00:49:54.225
<00:49:51.485>but <00:49:51.640>with <00:49:51.796>different <00:49:51.951>outcomes <00:49:52.107>depending <00:49:52.262>on <00:49:52.418>the <00:49:52.573>type <00:49:52.729>of <00:49:52.885>person

1154
00:49:54.225 --> 00:49:55.465
<00:49:54.225>that <00:49:54.504>the <00:49:54.783>child <00:49:55.062>is <00:49:55.341>and

1155
00:49:55.465 --> 00:49:57.985
<00:49:55.465>what <00:49:55.640>the <00:49:55.815>parents <00:49:55.990>might <00:49:56.165>want <00:49:56.340>the <00:49:56.515>story <00:49:56.690>to <00:49:56.865>say.

1156
00:49:58.325 --> 00:50:00.265
<00:49:58.325>And <00:49:58.480>so <00:49:58.636>it <00:49:58.791>can <00:49:58.947>have <00:49:59.102>a <00:49:59.258>different <00:49:59.413>kind <00:49:59.569>of <00:49:59.725>focus

1157
00:50:00.445 --> 00:50:02.105
<00:50:00.445>and <00:50:00.678>maybe <00:50:00.911>a <00:50:01.145>different <00:50:01.378>lesson <00:50:01.611>that <00:50:01.845>the,

1158
00:50:02.205 --> 00:50:03.505
<00:50:02.205>the <00:50:02.595>young <00:50:02.985>person <00:50:03.375>learns.

1159
00:50:03.725 --> 00:50:05.265
<00:50:03.725>So <00:50:03.956>it <00:50:04.187>could <00:50:04.417>have <00:50:04.649>a <00:50:04.880>similar <00:50:05.111>story,

1160
00:50:05.285 --> 00:50:07.145
<00:50:05.285>but <00:50:05.460>they <00:50:05.634>just <00:50:05.810>put <00:50:05.984>more <00:50:06.160>of <00:50:06.335>an <00:50:06.509>emphasis <00:50:06.685>on

1161
00:50:07.335 --> 00:50:08.825
<00:50:07.335>something <00:50:07.558>that <00:50:07.782>they <00:50:08.005>want <00:50:08.229>them <00:50:08.452>to <00:50:08.676>learn.

1162
00:50:09.005 --> 00:50:10.785
<00:50:09.005>Um, <00:50:09.180>so <00:50:09.355>it <00:50:09.530>is, <00:50:09.705>it's <00:50:09.880>like <00:50:10.055>you're <00:50:10.230>saying <00:50:10.405>there,

1163
00:50:10.785 --> 00:50:14.545
<00:50:10.785>the <00:50:10.912>AI <00:50:11.039>part <00:50:11.166>is <00:50:11.294>the <00:50:11.421>part <00:50:11.548>that <00:50:11.675>just, <00:50:11.803>I <00:50:11.930>mean, <00:50:12.057>almost <00:50:12.185>organizes,

1164
00:50:14.735 --> 00:50:17.665
<00:50:14.735>filters <00:50:14.968>out, <00:50:15.201>includes, <00:50:15.435>you <00:50:15.668>know, <00:50:15.901>different <00:50:16.135>parts,

1165
00:50:17.805 --> 00:50:20.985
<00:50:17.805>almost <00:50:17.960>like <00:50:18.116>modular <00:50:18.271>parts <00:50:18.427>of <00:50:18.582>the <00:50:18.738>story <00:50:18.893>to <00:50:19.049>make <00:50:19.205>something

1166
00:50:20.985 --> 00:50:24.305
<00:50:20.985>that <00:50:21.125>even <00:50:21.265>if <00:50:21.405>it's <00:50:21.545>not <00:50:21.685>completely <00:50:21.825>bespoke, <00:50:21.965>which <00:50:22.105>goes <00:50:22.245>back <00:50:22.385>to

1167
00:50:24.305 --> 00:50:26.785
<00:50:24.305>what <00:50:24.432>you <00:50:24.559>were <00:50:24.686>saying <00:50:24.814>Johanna <00:50:24.941>about <00:50:25.068>it <00:50:25.195>can <00:50:25.323>feel <00:50:25.450>like <00:50:25.577>it's <00:50:25.705>ai

1168
00:50:26.785 --> 00:50:28.965
<00:50:26.785>even <00:50:27.065>when <00:50:27.345>something <00:50:27.625>isn't <00:50:27.904>entirely <00:50:28.185>ai.

1169
00:50:29.305 --> 00:50:31.125
<00:50:29.305>So <00:50:29.480>yeah, <00:50:29.654>certain <00:50:29.830>parts <00:50:30.004>of <00:50:30.180>the <00:50:30.355>story <00:50:30.529>will <00:50:30.705>be,

1170
00:50:31.435 --> 00:50:32.765
<00:50:31.435>they'll <00:50:32.033>feel <00:50:32.632>bespoke,

1171
00:50:32.765 --> 00:50:35.805
<00:50:32.765>whereas <00:50:32.920>in <00:50:33.076>reality <00:50:33.231>they're <00:50:33.387>actually <00:50:33.542>just <00:50:33.698>a <00:50:33.853>cer <00:50:34.009>a <00:50:34.165>number

1172
00:50:35.805 --> 00:50:39.005
<00:50:35.805>of <00:50:35.980>modular <00:50:36.154>pieces <00:50:36.330>put <00:50:36.504>together <00:50:36.680>to <00:50:36.855>make <00:50:37.029>something, <00:50:37.205>uh,

1173
00:50:39.275 --> 00:50:40.885
<00:50:39.275>semi-unique, <00:50:39.555>if <00:50:39.835>that's <00:50:40.115>even <00:50:40.395>a <00:50:40.675>word.

1174
00:50:41.225 --> 00:50:42.565
<00:50:41.225>Um, <00:50:41.426>so <00:50:41.627>yeah, <00:50:41.828>it <00:50:42.029>is <00:50:42.230>very <00:50:42.431>interesting.

1175
00:50:42.565 --> 00:50:44.885
<00:50:42.565>It's <00:50:42.740>interesting <00:50:42.915>how <00:50:43.090>it's <00:50:43.265>empowering <00:50:43.440>us <00:50:43.615>to <00:50:43.790>take <00:50:43.965>control

1176
00:50:44.905 --> 00:50:46.005
<00:50:44.905>of <00:50:45.400>stories <00:50:45.895>ourselves.

1177
00:50:46.915 --> 00:50:48.085
<00:50:46.915>Semi <00:50:47.441>unique. <00:50:47.968>Okay.

1178
00:50:48.155 --> 00:50:49.125
<00:50:48.155>Semi <00:50:48.446>unique. <00:50:48.737>It's <00:50:49.028>almost,

1179
00:50:49.235 --> 00:50:50.485
<00:50:49.235>it's <00:50:49.516>almost <00:50:49.797>contradictory, <00:50:50.078>isn't <00:50:50.360>it?

1180
00:50:50.485 --> 00:50:52.765
<00:50:50.485>But <00:50:50.612>you <00:50:50.739>know, <00:50:50.866>as <00:50:50.994>close <00:50:51.121>to <00:50:51.248>unique <00:50:51.375>as <00:50:51.503>you <00:50:51.630>can <00:50:51.757>get. <00:50:51.885>Yeah.

1181
00:50:52.795 --> 00:50:53.885
<00:50:52.795>Without <00:50:53.285>being <00:50:53.776>unique.

1182
00:50:55.285 --> 00:50:57.485
<00:50:55.285>LinkedIn <00:50:55.484>has <00:50:55.685>been <00:50:55.884>joking <00:50:56.085>about <00:50:56.285>white <00:50:56.484>coding <00:50:56.685>cleanup

1183
00:50:57.485 --> 00:51:00.525
<00:50:57.485>specialists, <00:50:57.625>but <00:50:57.765>it <00:50:57.905>seems <00:50:58.045>to <00:50:58.185>be <00:50:58.325>a <00:50:58.465>growing <00:50:58.605>con <00:50:58.745>uh, <00:50:58.885>uh,

1184
00:51:00.525 --> 00:51:03.255
<00:51:00.525>a <00:51:00.991>growing, <00:51:01.458>uh, <00:51:01.925>profession.

1185
00:51:03.555 --> 00:51:06.095
<00:51:03.555>And <00:51:03.682>that <00:51:03.809>reminds <00:51:03.936>me <00:51:04.064>of <00:51:04.191>times <00:51:04.318>when, <00:51:04.445>when <00:51:04.573>what <00:51:04.700>you <00:51:04.827>see <00:51:04.955>is

1186
00:51:06.095 --> 00:51:08.455
<00:51:06.095>what <00:51:06.234>you <00:51:06.375>get <00:51:06.515>came <00:51:06.654>out <00:51:06.794>and <00:51:06.935>people <00:51:07.075>build <00:51:07.214>things <00:51:07.355>in <00:51:07.495>dream

1187
00:51:08.455 --> 00:51:10.455
<00:51:08.455>weaver <00:51:08.654>and <00:51:08.855>then <00:51:09.055>wanted <00:51:09.255>to <00:51:09.455>have <00:51:09.654>something <00:51:09.855>fixed.

1188
00:51:10.475 --> 00:51:11.815
<00:51:10.475>And <00:51:10.625>then <00:51:10.776>they <00:51:10.927>paid <00:51:11.078>me <00:51:11.228>a <00:51:11.379>lot <00:51:11.530>of <00:51:11.681>money

1189
00:51:11.835 --> 00:51:13.695
<00:51:11.835>to <00:51:12.010>undo <00:51:12.185>all <00:51:12.360>the <00:51:12.535>corrupt <00:51:12.710>that <00:51:12.885>they've <00:51:13.060>done <00:51:13.235>before.

1190
00:51:14.275 --> 00:51:18.175
<00:51:14.275>So <00:51:14.391>it <00:51:14.508>seems <00:51:14.625>like <00:51:14.741>there <00:51:14.858>is <00:51:14.975>a, <00:51:15.091>a <00:51:15.208>vibe <00:51:15.325>code <00:51:15.441>fixer, <00:51:15.558>uh, <00:51:15.675>lang,

1191
00:51:18.175 --> 00:51:20.095
<00:51:18.175>uh, <00:51:18.408>uh, <00:51:18.641>new <00:51:18.875>market <00:51:19.108>coming <00:51:19.341>out <00:51:19.575>there.

1192
00:51:22.415 --> 00:51:23.815
<00:51:22.415>I <00:51:22.555>have <00:51:22.695>a <00:51:22.835>theory <00:51:22.975>on <00:51:23.115>that. <00:51:23.255>I <00:51:23.395>have <00:51:23.535>a <00:51:23.675>theory

1193
00:51:23.815 --> 00:51:25.095
<00:51:23.815>that <00:51:24.007>they're <00:51:24.199>gonna <00:51:24.391>be <00:51:24.583>all <00:51:24.774>the <00:51:24.966>contractors,

1194
00:51:25.205 --> 00:51:27.815
<00:51:25.205>because <00:51:25.332>if <00:51:25.459>you <00:51:25.586>think <00:51:25.714>about <00:51:25.841>it <00:51:25.968>in <00:51:26.095>kind <00:51:26.223>of <00:51:26.350>a, <00:51:26.477>a, <00:51:26.605>um,

1195
00:51:28.515 --> 00:51:31.015
<00:51:28.515>almost <00:51:28.642>like <00:51:28.769>a, <00:51:28.896>a <00:51:29.024>real <00:51:29.151>world, <00:51:29.278>you <00:51:29.405>know, <00:51:29.533>kind <00:51:29.660>of <00:51:29.787>a <00:51:29.915>scenario.

1196
00:51:31.275 --> 00:51:34.295
<00:51:31.275>So <00:51:31.475>you've <00:51:31.675>saved <00:51:31.875>money <00:51:32.075>not <00:51:32.275>getting <00:51:32.475>juniors <00:51:32.675>and

1197
00:51:34.355 --> 00:51:35.975
<00:51:34.355>or <00:51:34.588>maybe <00:51:34.821>you've <00:51:35.055>brought <00:51:35.288>in <00:51:35.521>some <00:51:35.755>juniors

1198
00:51:35.975 --> 00:51:37.615
<00:51:35.975>and <00:51:36.174>said, <00:51:36.375>with <00:51:36.575>AI <00:51:36.775>it'll <00:51:36.975>be <00:51:37.174>good <00:51:37.375>enough.

1199
00:51:37.675 --> 00:51:40.095
<00:51:37.675>And <00:51:37.830>then <00:51:37.986>they've <00:51:38.141>vibe <00:51:38.297>coded, <00:51:38.452>they've <00:51:38.608>made <00:51:38.763>this <00:51:38.919>huge <00:51:39.075>mess,

1200
00:51:40.635 --> 00:51:42.695
<00:51:40.635>and <00:51:40.790>you <00:51:40.946>don't <00:51:41.101>want <00:51:41.257>to <00:51:41.412>accept <00:51:41.568>that <00:51:41.723>you're <00:51:41.879>gonna <00:51:42.035>have

1201
00:51:42.695 --> 00:51:45.095
<00:51:42.695>to <00:51:42.870>go <00:51:43.045>back <00:51:43.220>and <00:51:43.395>employ <00:51:43.570>high, <00:51:43.745>you <00:51:43.920>know, <00:51:44.095>uh,

1202
00:51:45.095 --> 00:51:47.815
<00:51:45.095>maybe <00:51:45.234>more <00:51:45.375>senior <00:51:45.515>staff <00:51:45.654>or <00:51:45.794>people <00:51:45.935>that <00:51:46.075>can <00:51:46.214>un <00:51:46.355>unpack <00:51:46.495>it.

1203
00:51:48.195 --> 00:51:50.455
<00:51:48.195>So <00:51:48.322>you <00:51:48.449>are <00:51:48.576>going <00:51:48.704>to <00:51:48.831>bring <00:51:48.958>in <00:51:49.085>a <00:51:49.213>contractor, <00:51:49.340>they'll <00:51:49.467>come <00:51:49.595>in

1204
00:51:50.455 --> 00:51:52.735
<00:51:50.455>and <00:51:50.595>they <00:51:50.735>will <00:51:50.875>almost <00:51:51.015>be <00:51:51.154>like <00:51:51.295>a <00:51:51.435>kind <00:51:51.575>of, <00:51:51.715>you <00:51:51.855>know,

1205
00:51:52.855 --> 00:51:54.055
<00:51:52.855>a <00:51:53.071>co <00:51:53.287>mercenary <00:51:53.502>for <00:51:53.719>hire, <00:51:53.935>right?

1206
00:51:54.295 --> 00:51:56.175
<00:51:54.295>Somebody <00:51:54.435>who <00:51:54.575>just <00:51:54.715>comes <00:51:54.855>in <00:51:54.995>and <00:51:55.135>does <00:51:55.275>the, <00:51:55.415>does <00:51:55.555>the <00:51:55.695>job.

1207
00:51:56.875 --> 00:51:58.335
<00:51:56.875>And, <00:51:57.094>and <00:51:57.313>I <00:51:57.532>think, <00:51:57.751>I <00:51:57.970>don't <00:51:58.189>think

1208
00:51:58.335 --> 00:51:59.495
<00:51:58.335>this <00:51:58.509>will <00:51:58.683>be <00:51:58.857>a <00:51:59.031>joke <00:51:59.205>for <00:51:59.379>long.

1209
00:51:59.935 --> 00:52:03.135
<00:51:59.935>I <00:52:00.062>really <00:52:00.189>think <00:52:00.316>this <00:52:00.444>will <00:52:00.571>be <00:52:00.698>a <00:52:00.825>fairly <00:52:00.953>standard <00:52:01.080>thing <00:52:01.207>we <00:52:01.335>see

1210
00:52:03.135 --> 00:52:05.335
<00:52:03.135>from <00:52:03.368>contractors <00:52:03.601>that <00:52:03.835>that's <00:52:04.068>what <00:52:04.301>you're <00:52:04.535>doing.

1211
00:52:06.195 --> 00:52:08.245
<00:52:06.195>Yeah, <00:52:06.370>I <00:52:06.545>mean, <00:52:06.720>it <00:52:06.895>was <00:52:07.070>basically <00:52:07.245>be <00:52:07.420>a <00:52:07.595>consultant.

1212
00:52:08.565 --> 00:52:10.685
<00:52:08.565>I <00:52:08.705>mean, <00:52:08.845>when <00:52:08.985>I <00:52:09.125>was <00:52:09.265>a <00:52:09.405>consultant, <00:52:09.545>it <00:52:09.685>was <00:52:09.825>just <00:52:09.965>wonderful

1213
00:52:10.685 --> 00:52:13.285
<00:52:10.685>because <00:52:10.884>the <00:52:11.085>companies <00:52:11.285>knew <00:52:11.485>already <00:52:11.685>what <00:52:11.884>was <00:52:12.085>broken.

1214
00:52:13.855 --> 00:52:16.645
<00:52:13.855>Their <00:52:14.010>engineers <00:52:14.166>had <00:52:14.321>didn't <00:52:14.477>get <00:52:14.632>the <00:52:14.788>time <00:52:14.943>to <00:52:15.099>fix <00:52:15.255>it.

1215
00:52:16.745 --> 00:52:20.045
<00:52:16.745>So <00:52:16.884>they <00:52:17.025>had <00:52:17.165>to <00:52:17.305>get <00:52:17.444>somebody <00:52:17.585>expensive <00:52:17.725>from <00:52:17.865>the <00:52:18.005>outside <00:52:18.145>in

1216
00:52:20.045 --> 00:52:21.325
<00:52:20.045>to <00:52:20.209>fix <00:52:20.374>it <00:52:20.538>for <00:52:20.703>a <00:52:20.867>lot <00:52:21.032>of <00:52:21.196>money.

1217
00:52:21.625 --> 00:52:23.325
<00:52:21.625>So <00:52:21.858>they <00:52:22.091>listen <00:52:22.325>to <00:52:22.558>their <00:52:22.791>own <00:52:23.025>engineers.

1218
00:52:23.425 --> 00:52:25.685
<00:52:23.425>And <00:52:23.541>when <00:52:23.658>I <00:52:23.775>did <00:52:23.891>that <00:52:24.008>for <00:52:24.125>half <00:52:24.241>a <00:52:24.358>year, <00:52:24.475>that's <00:52:24.591>when <00:52:24.708>I <00:52:24.825>started

1219
00:52:25.685 --> 00:52:27.205
<00:52:25.685>with <00:52:25.856>the <00:52:26.027>whole <00:52:26.198>def <00:52:26.369>Rail <00:52:26.540>thing, <00:52:26.711>where <00:52:26.882>I'm <00:52:27.053>like,

1220
00:52:27.435 --> 00:52:29.045
<00:52:27.435>this <00:52:27.785>communication <00:52:28.134>is <00:52:28.485>really <00:52:28.835>broken.

1221
00:52:29.925 --> 00:52:31.885
<00:52:29.925>'cause <00:52:30.158>you're <00:52:30.391>never <00:52:30.625>happy <00:52:30.858>as <00:52:31.091>a <00:52:31.325>contractor,

1222
00:52:31.915 --> 00:52:33.605
<00:52:31.915>like <00:52:32.148>you're <00:52:32.381>basically, <00:52:32.615>or <00:52:32.848>as <00:52:33.081>a <00:52:33.315>consultant

1223
00:52:33.605 --> 00:52:35.525
<00:52:33.605>because <00:52:33.805>you <00:52:34.005>just <00:52:34.205>dare <00:52:34.405>to <00:52:34.605>clean <00:52:34.805>up <00:52:35.005>messes

1224
00:52:36.145 --> 00:52:39.565
<00:52:36.145>and <00:52:36.320>to, <00:52:36.495>to, <00:52:36.670>I <00:52:36.845>mean, <00:52:37.020>depending <00:52:37.195>on <00:52:37.370>who <00:52:37.545>you're,

1225
00:52:39.585 --> 00:52:41.525
<00:52:39.585>who <00:52:39.785>you're <00:52:39.985>a <00:52:40.185>consultant <00:52:40.385>for, <00:52:40.585>you <00:52:40.785>also <00:52:40.985>have

1226
00:52:41.525 --> 00:52:42.805
<00:52:41.525>to <00:52:41.813>sell <00:52:42.101>them <00:52:42.389>cloud <00:52:42.676>services

1227
00:52:43.025 --> 00:52:45.765
<00:52:43.025>and <00:52:43.165>all <00:52:43.305>kind <00:52:43.445>of <00:52:43.585>things <00:52:43.725>that <00:52:43.865>they <00:52:44.005>don't <00:52:44.145>need <00:52:44.285>to <00:52:44.425>have.

1228
00:52:45.765 --> 00:52:46.765
<00:52:45.765>Like, <00:52:45.944>oh, <00:52:46.125>if <00:52:46.305>you <00:52:46.484>had <00:52:46.665>done

1229
00:52:46.765 --> 00:52:49.605
<00:52:46.765>that <00:52:46.940>from <00:52:47.115>the <00:52:47.290>very <00:52:47.464>beginning, <00:52:47.640>it <00:52:47.815>would've <00:52:47.990>been <00:52:48.165>better.

1230
00:52:49.665 --> 00:52:53.765
<00:52:49.665>But <00:52:49.820>yeah, <00:52:49.976>it's, <00:52:50.131>it's <00:52:50.287>fascinating <00:52:50.442>that <00:52:50.598>there <00:52:50.753>is, <00:52:50.909>I <00:52:51.065>mean,

1231
00:52:53.875 --> 00:52:56.565
<00:52:53.875>what <00:52:54.030>I, <00:52:54.186>what <00:52:54.341>what <00:52:54.497>I <00:52:54.652>wonder <00:52:54.808>about <00:52:54.963>here <00:52:55.119>is <00:52:55.275>like,

1232
00:52:56.585 --> 00:52:57.765
<00:52:56.585>and <00:52:56.850>I'm <00:52:57.116>always <00:52:57.381>doing <00:52:57.647>that.

1233
00:52:57.805 --> 00:53:00.405
<00:52:57.805>I <00:52:57.944>don't <00:52:58.085>know, <00:52:58.225>mark, <00:52:58.365>if <00:52:58.504>you <00:52:58.645>have <00:52:58.785>the <00:52:58.924>same, <00:52:59.065>uh, <00:52:59.205>impression,

1234
00:53:01.885 --> 00:53:06.045
<00:53:01.885>I <00:53:02.012>put <00:53:02.139>it <00:53:02.266>out <00:53:02.394>there <00:53:02.521>that <00:53:02.648>vibe <00:53:02.775>coding <00:53:02.903>is <00:53:03.030>like <00:53:03.157>oh <00:53:03.285>0.2%

1235
00:53:06.045 --> 00:53:08.645
<00:53:06.045>of <00:53:06.200>the <00:53:06.356>market <00:53:06.511>and <00:53:06.667>it's <00:53:06.822>people <00:53:06.978>doing <00:53:07.133>it <00:53:07.289>for <00:53:07.445>headlines

1236
00:53:08.645 --> 00:53:11.045
<00:53:08.645>and <00:53:08.772>for <00:53:08.899>showing <00:53:09.026>off <00:53:09.154>to <00:53:09.281>each <00:53:09.408>other <00:53:09.535>on, <00:53:09.663>uh, <00:53:09.790>on <00:53:09.917>social <00:53:10.045>media.

1237
00:53:11.565 --> 00:53:14.565
<00:53:11.565>I <00:53:11.798>don't <00:53:12.031>think <00:53:12.265>anybody <00:53:12.498>is <00:53:12.731>thoroughly <00:53:12.965>putting

1238
00:53:14.605 --> 00:53:17.085
<00:53:14.605>that <00:53:14.805>into <00:53:15.005>production <00:53:15.205>except <00:53:15.405>for <00:53:15.605>startups <00:53:15.805>that <00:53:16.005>have

1239
00:53:17.085 --> 00:53:19.325
<00:53:17.085>to <00:53:17.318>change <00:53:17.551>their <00:53:17.785>idea <00:53:18.018>every <00:53:18.251>two <00:53:18.485>months

1240
00:53:19.325 --> 00:53:21.365
<00:53:19.325>because <00:53:19.524>the <00:53:19.725>VC <00:53:19.924>wants <00:53:20.125>it <00:53:20.325>from <00:53:20.524>them <00:53:20.725>anyways.

1241
00:53:21.635 --> 00:53:22.645
<00:53:21.635>Exactly. <00:53:21.938>So <00:53:22.241>I <00:53:22.544>don't,

1242
00:53:23.035 --> 00:53:24.035
<00:53:23.035>Yeah, <00:53:23.484>I <00:53:23.935>Agree.

1243
00:53:24.085 --> 00:53:26.325
<00:53:24.085>I <00:53:24.285>think <00:53:24.485>it's <00:53:24.685>more <00:53:24.885>like <00:53:25.085>marketing <00:53:25.285>stuff <00:53:25.485>that,

1244
00:53:26.325 --> 00:53:29.085
<00:53:26.325>that's <00:53:26.464>bubbling <00:53:26.605>up <00:53:26.745>these <00:53:26.884>kind <00:53:27.024>of, <00:53:27.165>uh, <00:53:27.305>creators <00:53:27.444>or <00:53:27.585>in, <00:53:27.725>or,

1245
00:53:29.085 --> 00:53:31.325
<00:53:29.085>or <00:53:29.260>AI <00:53:29.435>influencers <00:53:29.610>who <00:53:29.785>do <00:53:29.960>this <00:53:30.135>kind <00:53:30.310>of <00:53:30.485>thing.

1246
00:53:31.345 --> 00:53:33.685
<00:53:31.345>But <00:53:31.472>I, <00:53:31.599>I <00:53:31.726>don't <00:53:31.854>think <00:53:31.981>it's <00:53:32.108>like <00:53:32.235>a <00:53:32.363>very <00:53:32.490>common <00:53:32.617>thing <00:53:32.745>to,

1247
00:53:33.685 --> 00:53:36.245
<00:53:33.685>to <00:53:33.825>do <00:53:33.965>this <00:53:34.105>and <00:53:34.245>be <00:53:34.384>real <00:53:34.525>efficient <00:53:34.665>or <00:53:34.805>effective <00:53:34.945>with <00:53:35.085>it.

1248
00:53:36.605 --> 00:53:39.645
<00:53:36.605>I <00:53:36.721>agree. <00:53:36.838>Yeah. <00:53:36.955>But <00:53:37.071>yeah, <00:53:37.188>I <00:53:37.305>I, <00:53:37.421>I <00:53:37.538>do <00:53:37.655>like, <00:53:37.771>it's <00:53:37.888>funny, <00:53:38.005>Hey,

1249
00:53:39.645 --> 00:53:41.445
<00:53:39.645>people <00:53:39.925>are <00:53:40.205>continuously <00:53:40.485>doing <00:53:40.765>this <00:53:41.045>well.

1250
00:53:41.445 --> 00:53:44.165
<00:53:41.445>Yeah, <00:53:41.600>it <00:53:41.756>does <00:53:41.911>open <00:53:42.067>up <00:53:42.222>like <00:53:42.378>a <00:53:42.533>market <00:53:42.689>for <00:53:42.845>contractors

1251
00:53:44.385 --> 00:53:47.325
<00:53:44.385>or <00:53:44.525>like <00:53:44.665>properly <00:53:44.805>skilled <00:53:44.945>people <00:53:45.085>to, <00:53:45.225>to, <00:53:45.365>to <00:53:45.505>fix <00:53:45.645>these <00:53:45.785>things.

1252
00:53:47.405 --> 00:53:49.325
<00:53:47.405>I <00:53:47.512>mean, <00:53:47.620>yeah. <00:53:47.728>I, <00:53:47.835>I <00:53:47.943>think <00:53:48.051>that's <00:53:48.158>at <00:53:48.266>least <00:53:48.374>a <00:53:48.481>good <00:53:48.589>side <00:53:48.697>of <00:53:48.805>it.

1253
00:53:50.345 --> 00:53:51.845
<00:53:50.345>But <00:53:50.537>isn't <00:53:50.730>that <00:53:50.923>sad? <00:53:51.116>Is <00:53:51.309>it <00:53:51.502>like <00:53:51.694>we

1254
00:53:52.515 --> 00:53:53.515
<00:53:52.515>Yeah, <00:53:53.415>yeah.

1255
00:53:54.425 --> 00:53:55.765
<00:53:54.425>And <00:53:54.666>pay <00:53:54.907>somebody <00:53:55.148>to <00:53:55.389>fix <00:53:55.631>it.

1256
00:53:56.275 --> 00:53:58.765
<00:53:56.275>True. <00:53:56.475>Yeah. <00:53:56.675>But <00:53:56.875>yeah, <00:53:57.075>that's, <00:53:57.275>that's, <00:53:57.475>we're <00:53:57.675>not

1257
00:53:58.945 --> 00:53:59.945
<00:53:58.945>To <00:53:59.395>trash. <00:53:59.845>We

1258
00:53:59.945 --> 00:54:00.785
<00:53:59.945>just <00:54:00.701>like,

1259
00:54:02.345 --> 00:54:03.965
<00:54:02.345>But <00:54:02.544>I <00:54:02.745>think <00:54:02.944>that's <00:54:03.145>also <00:54:03.345>very <00:54:03.544>typical <00:54:03.745>maybe

1260
00:54:03.985 --> 00:54:06.005
<00:54:03.985>for <00:54:04.185>the <00:54:04.385>IT <00:54:04.585>industry <00:54:04.785>in, <00:54:04.985>in <00:54:05.185>general, <00:54:05.385>right?

1261
00:54:06.165 --> 00:54:08.965
<00:54:06.165>I <00:54:06.320>mean, <00:54:06.476>um, <00:54:06.631>there <00:54:06.787>are <00:54:06.942>are <00:54:07.098>always <00:54:07.253>like <00:54:07.409>early <00:54:07.565>adopters

1262
00:54:08.965 --> 00:54:11.285
<00:54:08.965>who <00:54:09.120>try <00:54:09.276>out <00:54:09.431>something <00:54:09.587>and <00:54:09.742>now <00:54:09.898>it's <00:54:10.053>like <00:54:10.209>AI <00:54:10.365>tools,

1263
00:54:11.305 --> 00:54:14.365
<00:54:11.305>but <00:54:11.444>that <00:54:11.585>can <00:54:11.725>also <00:54:11.865>be <00:54:12.004>like <00:54:12.145>maybe <00:54:12.285>the <00:54:12.424>initial <00:54:12.565>cloud <00:54:12.705>services

1264
00:54:14.425 --> 00:54:16.325
<00:54:14.425>and <00:54:14.625>things <00:54:14.825>are <00:54:15.025>not <00:54:15.225>like <00:54:15.425>running <00:54:15.625>properly <00:54:15.825>yet.

1265
00:54:16.345 --> 00:54:19.285
<00:54:16.345>So, <00:54:16.472>uh, <00:54:16.599>yeah, <00:54:16.726>you <00:54:16.854>always <00:54:16.981>need <00:54:17.108>people <00:54:17.235>who <00:54:17.363>have <00:54:17.490>like <00:54:17.617>a <00:54:17.745>bit

1266
00:54:19.285 --> 00:54:22.445
<00:54:19.285>of <00:54:19.424>more <00:54:19.565>knowledge <00:54:19.705>to, <00:54:19.845>to, <00:54:19.984>to <00:54:20.125>help <00:54:20.265>teams <00:54:20.404>out <00:54:20.545>with <00:54:20.685>actually

1267
00:54:22.955 --> 00:54:24.125
<00:54:22.955>setting <00:54:23.306>it <00:54:23.657>up <00:54:24.008>properly.

1268
00:54:24.985 --> 00:54:27.285
<00:54:24.985>Mm-hmm. <00:54:25.265>It <00:54:25.545>used <00:54:25.825>to <00:54:26.105>be <00:54:26.385>common

1269
00:54:27.305 --> 00:54:29.085
<00:54:27.305>for <00:54:27.504>people <00:54:27.705>in <00:54:27.904>the <00:54:28.105>late <00:54:28.305>thirties <00:54:28.504>to <00:54:28.705>forties

1270
00:54:29.185 --> 00:54:30.485
<00:54:29.185>to <00:54:29.575>acquire <00:54:29.965>Project <00:54:30.355>Car,

1271
00:54:30.485 --> 00:54:33.085
<00:54:30.485>which <00:54:30.625>was <00:54:30.765>often <00:54:30.905>high <00:54:31.045>school <00:54:31.185>Dream <00:54:31.325>car <00:54:31.465>purchased <00:54:31.605>at <00:54:31.745>the <00:54:31.885>end

1272
00:54:33.085 --> 00:54:35.885
<00:54:33.085>of <00:54:33.212>his <00:54:33.339>life <00:54:33.466>with <00:54:33.594>the <00:54:33.721>goal <00:54:33.848>of <00:54:33.975>restoring <00:54:34.103>in <00:54:34.230>the <00:54:34.357>2000 <00:54:34.485>tens,

1273
00:54:35.885 --> 00:54:38.565
<00:54:35.885>the <00:54:36.040>retro <00:54:36.196>computing <00:54:36.351>scene <00:54:36.507>emerged <00:54:36.662>for <00:54:36.818>the <00:54:36.973>same <00:54:37.129>age <00:54:37.285>group.

1274
00:54:40.705 --> 00:54:44.685
<00:54:40.705>It <00:54:40.845>feels <00:54:40.985>like <00:54:41.125>that <00:54:41.265>that <00:54:41.404>is <00:54:41.545>really, <00:54:41.685>uh, <00:54:41.825>that's <00:54:41.965>not <00:54:42.105>good.

1275
00:54:48.505 --> 00:54:51.845
<00:54:48.505>But <00:54:48.632>yeah, <00:54:48.759>it's, <00:54:48.886>uh, <00:54:49.014>that's <00:54:49.141>the <00:54:49.268>way <00:54:49.395>we <00:54:49.523>are <00:54:49.650>Now <00:54:49.777>let's <00:54:49.905>talk

1276
00:54:51.845 --> 00:54:54.405
<00:54:51.845>about <00:54:52.000>your <00:54:52.156>post <00:54:52.311>because, <00:54:52.467>uh, <00:54:52.622>you <00:54:52.778>have <00:54:52.933>to <00:54:53.089>go <00:54:53.245>early

1277
00:54:54.405 --> 00:54:56.205
<00:54:54.405>to <00:54:54.580>pick <00:54:54.755>up <00:54:54.930>your <00:54:55.105>kids <00:54:55.280>from <00:54:55.455>school <00:54:55.630>and <00:54:55.805>stuff.

1278
00:54:56.585 --> 00:55:01.565
<00:54:56.585>So <00:54:56.760>adding <00:54:56.935>generative <00:54:57.110>summaries <00:54:57.285>with <00:54:57.460>Chrome <00:54:57.635>ai, <00:54:57.810>what <00:54:57.985>does

1279
00:55:01.565 --> 00:55:03.805
<00:55:01.565>that <00:55:01.765>mean <00:55:01.965>and <00:55:02.165>how <00:55:02.365>did <00:55:02.565>you <00:55:02.765>do <00:55:02.965>that?

1280
00:55:04.745 --> 00:55:06.845
<00:55:04.745>So <00:55:04.944>the <00:55:05.145>Chrome <00:55:05.345>team, <00:55:05.545>for <00:55:05.745>about <00:55:05.944>a <00:55:06.145>year

1281
00:55:07.105 --> 00:55:09.925
<00:55:07.105>or <00:55:07.305>so, <00:55:07.505>they've <00:55:07.705>been <00:55:07.905>working <00:55:08.105>on <00:55:08.305>adding <00:55:08.505>AI

1282
00:55:09.925 --> 00:55:11.405
<00:55:09.925>models <00:55:10.258>to <00:55:10.591>the <00:55:10.924>browser <00:55:11.257>itself.

1283
00:55:11.865 --> 00:55:13.845
<00:55:11.865>Uh, <00:55:12.064>they've <00:55:12.265>gone <00:55:12.464>through <00:55:12.665>a <00:55:12.865>bunch <00:55:13.064>of <00:55:13.265>iterations

1284
00:55:14.065 --> 00:55:15.805
<00:55:14.065>and <00:55:14.415>different <00:55:14.765>APIs <00:55:15.115>and <00:55:15.465>such.

1285
00:55:16.385 --> 00:55:19.525
<00:55:16.385>Uh, <00:55:16.525>they're <00:55:16.665>at <00:55:16.805>a <00:55:16.945>pretty <00:55:17.085>good <00:55:17.225>stage <00:55:17.365>now <00:55:17.505>where <00:55:17.645>I <00:55:17.785>think

1286
00:55:19.525 --> 00:55:20.805
<00:55:19.525>of <00:55:19.909>the <00:55:20.293>six <00:55:20.676>APIs.

1287
00:55:20.805 --> 00:55:23.485
<00:55:20.805>Three <00:55:21.038>are <00:55:21.271>actually <00:55:21.504>released, <00:55:21.738>uh, <00:55:21.971>Chrome <00:55:22.205>only.

1288
00:55:23.635 --> 00:55:26.845
<00:55:23.635>Obviously, <00:55:23.810>you <00:55:23.985>know, <00:55:24.160>safari <00:55:24.335>will <00:55:24.510>probably <00:55:24.685>never <00:55:24.860>add <00:55:25.035>it.

1289
00:55:27.185 --> 00:55:31.165
<00:55:27.185>Uh, <00:55:27.384>but <00:55:27.585>for <00:55:27.785>progressive <00:55:27.985>enhancement <00:55:28.185>type, <00:55:28.384>uh, <00:55:28.585>examples,

1290
00:55:31.445 --> 00:55:32.485
<00:55:31.445>I <00:55:31.632>think <00:55:31.819>it <00:55:32.006>works <00:55:32.193>really <00:55:32.381>well.

1291
00:55:33.265 --> 00:55:38.125
<00:55:33.265>Uh, <00:55:33.440>API <00:55:33.615>is <00:55:33.790>relatively <00:55:33.964>simple, <00:55:34.140>much <00:55:34.315>like <00:55:34.490>how <00:55:34.665>most

1292
00:55:38.125 --> 00:55:41.245
<00:55:38.125>of <00:55:38.358>gen <00:55:38.591>ai, <00:55:38.825>gen <00:55:39.058>ai, <00:55:39.291>server-based <00:55:39.525>APIs,

1293
00:55:41.435 --> 00:55:43.125
<00:55:41.435>they're <00:55:41.785>pretty <00:55:42.134>simple <00:55:42.485>as <00:55:42.835>well.

1294
00:55:43.895 --> 00:55:47.445
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1331
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<00:57:20.615>So <00:57:20.848>I <00:57:21.081>need <00:57:21.314>to <00:57:21.548>write <00:57:21.781>an <00:57:22.015>extension

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1335
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<00:57:31.935>Um, <00:57:32.110>right <00:57:32.285>now, <00:57:32.460>again, <00:57:32.634>if, <00:57:32.810>if <00:57:32.985>you're <00:57:33.160>okay <00:57:33.335>with,

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1341
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1344
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<00:57:56.395>because <00:57:56.628>the <00:57:56.861>operating <00:57:57.095>system <00:57:57.328>does <00:57:57.561>do <00:57:57.795>that.

1345
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1350
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1352
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1353
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1354
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1355
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1357
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<00:58:37.765>you <00:58:37.892>know, <00:58:38.019>I'm <00:58:38.146>not, <00:58:38.274>I'm <00:58:38.401>not <00:58:38.528>just <00:58:38.655>gonna <00:58:38.783>blow <00:58:38.910>away <00:58:39.037>your <00:58:39.165>text,

1358
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<00:58:40.525>I'm <00:58:40.652>gonna <00:58:40.779>show <00:58:40.906>you <00:58:41.034>to <00:58:41.161>the <00:58:41.288>side, <00:58:41.415>this <00:58:41.543>is <00:58:41.670>what <00:58:41.797>I'm <00:58:41.925>suggesting.

1359
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1360
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1361
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1365
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<00:58:55.545>How <00:58:55.745>do <00:58:55.945>you <00:58:56.145>show <00:58:56.345>that <00:58:56.545>kind <00:58:56.745>of <00:58:56.945>thing?

1366
00:58:57.905 --> 00:59:00.125
<00:58:57.905>Uh, <00:58:58.080>that's <00:58:58.255>the, <00:58:58.430>that's <00:58:58.605>an <00:58:58.780>interesting <00:58:58.955>one <00:58:59.130>as <00:58:59.305>well.

1367
00:59:00.285 --> 00:59:03.165
<00:59:00.285>'cause <00:59:00.424>I <00:59:00.565>mean, <00:59:00.705>like <00:59:00.845>in, <00:59:00.984>in, <00:59:01.125>uh, <00:59:01.265>in <00:59:01.404>Google <00:59:01.545>in <00:59:01.685>Gmail,

1368
00:59:03.315 --> 00:59:06.645
<00:59:03.315>when <00:59:03.455>I <00:59:03.595>start <00:59:03.735>writing <00:59:03.875>something, <00:59:04.015>it <00:59:04.155>now <00:59:04.295>asks <00:59:04.435>me <00:59:04.575>Polish, <00:59:04.715>uh,

1369
00:59:06.645 --> 00:59:09.805
<00:59:06.645>and <00:59:06.785>then <00:59:06.925>with, <00:59:07.065>with <00:59:07.205>like <00:59:07.345>the, <00:59:07.485>the, <00:59:07.625>uh, <00:59:07.765>the <00:59:07.905>sparkle <00:59:08.045>icon

1370
00:59:10.505 --> 00:59:12.725
<00:59:10.505>and, <00:59:10.680>um, <00:59:10.855>I'm <00:59:11.030>writing <00:59:11.205>in <00:59:11.380>English, <00:59:11.555>not <00:59:11.730>in <00:59:11.905>Polish.

1371
00:59:12.785 --> 00:59:14.005
<00:59:12.785>So <00:59:13.004>that <00:59:13.224>doesn't <00:59:13.443>make <00:59:13.663>any <00:59:13.883>sense.

1372
00:59:14.065 --> 00:59:16.085
<00:59:14.065>But <00:59:14.265>I, <00:59:14.465>I <00:59:14.665>find <00:59:14.865>it <00:59:15.065>like <00:59:15.265>a <00:59:15.465>lot

1373
00:59:16.085 --> 00:59:19.045
<00:59:16.085>of <00:59:16.260>times <00:59:16.435>these <00:59:16.610>helpers <00:59:16.785>can <00:59:16.960>be <00:59:17.135>like <00:59:17.310>super <00:59:17.485>intrusive

1374
00:59:19.045 --> 00:59:20.085
<00:59:19.045>rather <00:59:19.513>than <00:59:19.981>helpers.

1375
00:59:20.785 --> 00:59:23.085
<00:59:20.785>So <00:59:20.984>that's <00:59:21.185>where, <00:59:21.384>uh, <00:59:21.585>it <00:59:21.785>will <00:59:21.984>be <00:59:22.185>interesting

1376
00:59:23.085 --> 00:59:26.445
<00:59:23.085>to <00:59:23.225>give <00:59:23.365>people <00:59:23.505>the <00:59:23.645>opportunity <00:59:23.785>to <00:59:23.925>actually <00:59:24.065>do <00:59:24.205>that <00:59:24.345>in <00:59:24.485>a,

1377
00:59:26.465 --> 00:59:27.725
<00:59:26.465>on <00:59:26.691>a, <00:59:26.918>on <00:59:27.145>an <00:59:27.372>API <00:59:27.599>level

1378
00:59:27.985 --> 00:59:30.445
<00:59:27.985>and <00:59:28.160>come <00:59:28.335>up <00:59:28.510>with <00:59:28.685>better <00:59:28.860>solutions <00:59:29.035>than <00:59:29.210>Google <00:59:29.385>can.

1379
00:59:30.875 --> 00:59:33.005
<00:59:30.875>That <00:59:31.075>might <00:59:31.275>be <00:59:31.475>the <00:59:31.675>interesting, <00:59:31.875>uh, <00:59:32.075>part <00:59:32.275>there.

1380
00:59:35.505 --> 00:59:37.835
<00:59:35.505>Yeah, <00:59:35.785>it's, <00:59:36.065>I'm, <00:59:36.345>I'm <00:59:36.625>very <00:59:36.905>curious

1381
00:59:37.895 --> 00:59:39.315
<00:59:37.895>to <00:59:38.108>see, <00:59:38.321>you <00:59:38.534>know, <00:59:38.747>where <00:59:38.960>it <00:59:39.173>goes.

1382
00:59:39.495 --> 00:59:42.235
<00:59:39.495>Uh, <00:59:39.775>and <00:59:40.055>generally <00:59:40.335>pro <00:59:40.615>gen <00:59:40.895>ai

1383
00:59:42.255 --> 00:59:44.475
<00:59:42.255>and <00:59:42.430>I'm <00:59:42.605>also <00:59:42.780>getting <00:59:42.955>sickened <00:59:43.130>by <00:59:43.305>seeing <00:59:43.480>it <00:59:43.655>everywhere.

1384
00:59:44.505 --> 00:59:47.195
<00:59:44.505>Like <00:59:44.785>Notepad <00:59:45.065>has <00:59:45.345>it <00:59:45.625>now. <00:59:45.905>Yeah.

1385
00:59:49.425 --> 00:59:52.395
<00:59:49.425>Some, <00:59:49.565>some <00:59:49.705>product <00:59:49.845>manager <00:59:49.985>got <00:59:50.125>told <00:59:50.265>you <00:59:50.405>have <00:59:50.545>to <00:59:50.685>add <00:59:50.825>this,

1386
00:59:52.415 --> 00:59:54.835
<00:59:52.415>and <00:59:52.695>so <00:59:52.975>they <00:59:53.255>made <00:59:53.535>it <00:59:53.815>happen.

1387
00:59:55.055 --> 00:59:58.825
<00:59:55.055>Uh, <00:59:55.335>yeah, <00:59:55.615>I, <00:59:55.895>I'm, <00:59:56.174>I'm <00:59:56.455>hopeful

1388
00:59:59.015 --> 01:00:02.065
<00:59:59.015>that <00:59:59.142>this <00:59:59.269>is <00:59:59.396>used <00:59:59.524>in <00:59:59.651>the <00:59:59.778>right <00:59:59.905>way <01:00:00.033>and <01:00:00.160>we'll, <01:00:00.287>we'll <01:00:00.415>see.

1389
01:00:03.865 --> 01:00:05.915
<01:00:03.865>Yeah, <01:00:04.064>it <01:00:04.265>also <01:00:04.464>feels <01:00:04.665>like, <01:00:04.865>uh, <01:00:05.064>I <01:00:05.265>mean,

1390
01:00:06.615 --> 01:00:09.715
<01:00:06.615>it <01:00:06.770>rolled <01:00:06.926>out <01:00:07.081>on <01:00:07.237>Mac <01:00:07.392>first, <01:00:07.548>then <01:00:07.703>onlin <01:00:07.859>the <01:00:08.015>windows.

1391
01:00:10.255 --> 01:00:12.555
<01:00:10.255>And <01:00:10.410>uh, <01:00:10.566>that's <01:00:10.721>the <01:00:10.877>other <01:00:11.032>thing, <01:00:11.188>like <01:00:11.343>it's <01:00:11.499>uh, <01:00:11.655>uh,

1392
01:00:12.695 --> 01:00:13.875
<01:00:12.695>it <01:00:12.907>always <01:00:13.119>feels <01:00:13.332>me, <01:00:13.544>it <01:00:13.757>feels

1393
01:00:13.875 --> 01:00:18.035
<01:00:13.875>to <01:00:14.015>me <01:00:14.155>like <01:00:14.295>there <01:00:14.435>is <01:00:14.575>a <01:00:14.715>gatekeeping <01:00:14.855>kind <01:00:14.995>of <01:00:15.135>thing, <01:00:15.275>like

1394
01:00:18.335 --> 01:00:19.675
<01:00:18.335>who <01:00:18.737>can <01:00:19.139>access <01:00:19.541>that?

1395
01:00:19.675 --> 01:00:22.915
<01:00:19.675>Because <01:00:19.815>it's <01:00:19.955>not, <01:00:20.095>there's <01:00:20.235>no <01:00:20.375>no <01:00:20.515>W <01:00:20.655>three <01:00:20.795>C <01:00:20.935>standard <01:00:21.075>there.

1396
01:00:22.925 --> 01:00:24.795
<01:00:22.925>There <01:00:23.100>might <01:00:23.275>be <01:00:23.450>some <01:00:23.625>in <01:00:23.800>the <01:00:23.975>making, <01:00:24.150>I <01:00:24.325>think.

1397
01:00:25.335 --> 01:00:27.395
<01:00:25.335>But, <01:00:25.615>uh, <01:00:25.895>that's <01:00:26.175>where <01:00:26.455>the <01:00:26.735>competition

1398
01:00:27.395 --> 01:00:29.395
<01:00:27.395>between <01:00:27.861>companies <01:00:28.328>comes <01:00:28.795>in

1399
01:00:29.495 --> 01:00:32.955
<01:00:29.495>and <01:00:29.694>it's, <01:00:29.895>it's <01:00:30.095>kind <01:00:30.295>of <01:00:30.495>interesting <01:00:30.694>to <01:00:30.895>see.

1400
01:00:33.625 --> 01:00:36.475
<01:00:33.625>Yeah. <01:00:33.800>Now <01:00:33.975>then <01:00:34.150>what <01:00:34.325>you <01:00:34.500>think, <01:00:34.675>uh, <01:00:34.850>uh, <01:00:35.025>uh,

1401
01:00:37.065 --> 01:00:39.395
<01:00:37.065>what <01:00:37.220>shall <01:00:37.376>we <01:00:37.531>do <01:00:37.687>Raymond, <01:00:37.842>take <01:00:37.998>a <01:00:38.153>look <01:00:38.309>at <01:00:38.465>next?

1402
01:00:39.585 --> 01:00:40.875
<01:00:39.585>Like, <01:00:39.875>what, <01:00:40.165>what, <01:00:40.455>what <01:00:40.746>is,

1403
01:00:40.875 --> 01:00:42.395
<01:00:40.875>what <01:00:41.070>did <01:00:41.265>you <01:00:41.461>wanna <01:00:41.656>do <01:00:41.852>in <01:00:42.047>the <01:00:42.243>browser

1404
01:00:42.395 --> 01:00:43.795
<01:00:42.395>with <01:00:42.605>AI <01:00:42.815>that <01:00:43.025>you <01:00:43.235>couldn't <01:00:43.445>do <01:00:43.655>yet?

1405
01:00:44.535 --> 01:00:45.555
<01:00:44.535>Oh, <01:00:44.841>oh, <01:00:45.147>that's <01:00:45.453>a,

1406
01:00:45.555 --> 01:00:47.835
<01:00:45.555>that's <01:00:45.694>a <01:00:45.835>difficult <01:00:45.975>one <01:00:46.115>actually <01:00:46.254>on <01:00:46.395>the <01:00:46.535>spot, <01:00:46.674>I'm <01:00:46.815>not <01:00:46.955>sure.

1407
01:00:48.155 --> 01:00:50.675
<01:00:48.155>'cause <01:00:48.310>I, <01:00:48.466>I, <01:00:48.621>I <01:00:48.777>definitely <01:00:48.932>find <01:00:49.088>that <01:00:49.243>when <01:00:49.399>you <01:00:49.555>said

1408
01:00:50.675 --> 01:00:51.635
<01:00:50.675>that <01:00:50.847>Raymond, <01:00:51.020>then <01:00:51.193>that <01:00:51.366>you've <01:00:51.539>got

1409
01:00:51.635 --> 01:00:52.515
<01:00:51.635>this <01:00:51.767>sort <01:00:51.899>of <01:00:52.031>love <01:00:52.163>hate <01:00:52.295>with <01:00:52.426>it.

1410
01:00:52.615 --> 01:00:55.035
<01:00:52.615>Um, <01:00:52.790>where, <01:00:52.964>where <01:00:53.140>I <01:00:53.314>find <01:00:53.490>the <01:00:53.665>same, <01:00:53.839>where <01:00:54.015>I,

1411
01:00:55.075 --> 01:00:58.395
<01:00:55.075>I <01:00:55.202>instantly <01:00:55.329>get <01:00:55.456>something <01:00:55.584>like <01:00:55.711>an <01:00:55.838>AI <01:00:55.965>summary <01:00:56.093>I <01:00:56.220>find <01:00:56.347>is, <01:00:56.475>uh,

1412
01:00:58.505 --> 01:01:00.955
<01:00:58.505>immediately <01:00:58.738>useful <01:00:58.971>because <01:00:59.205>you've <01:00:59.438>got <01:00:59.671>some <01:00:59.905>information,

1413
01:01:00.955 --> 01:01:02.275
<01:01:00.955>but <01:01:01.252>it's <01:01:01.549>just <01:01:01.846>some <01:01:02.143>information

1414
01:01:02.375 --> 01:01:04.555
<01:01:02.375>and <01:01:02.502>it's, <01:01:02.629>um, <01:01:02.756>you <01:01:02.884>know, <01:01:03.011>when <01:01:03.138>someone <01:01:03.265>goes, <01:01:03.393>oh, <01:01:03.520>is <01:01:03.647>that <01:01:03.775>true?

1415
01:01:04.655 --> 01:01:05.995
<01:01:04.655>And <01:01:04.827>you <01:01:04.999>Google <01:01:05.171>it <01:01:05.344>and <01:01:05.516>then <01:01:05.688>you <01:01:05.861>think,

1416
01:01:06.375 --> 01:01:08.675
<01:01:06.375>I'm <01:01:06.515>not <01:01:06.655>sure <01:01:06.795>if <01:01:06.935>actually <01:01:07.075>it's <01:01:07.215>giving <01:01:07.355>me <01:01:07.495>a <01:01:07.635>confirmed <01:01:07.775>response

1417
01:01:08.675 --> 01:01:09.995
<01:01:08.675>because <01:01:08.844>of <01:01:09.014>the <01:01:09.184>way <01:01:09.353>I've <01:01:09.523>questioned, <01:01:09.693>you <01:01:09.863>know,

1418
01:01:09.995 --> 01:01:11.115
<01:01:09.995>the, <01:01:10.163>the <01:01:10.330>way <01:01:10.499>I've <01:01:10.667>posed <01:01:10.835>the <01:01:11.002>question.

1419
01:01:11.575 --> 01:01:14.795
<01:01:11.575>So <01:01:11.691>you <01:01:11.808>then <01:01:11.924>find <01:01:12.041>that <01:01:12.158>you <01:01:12.274>end <01:01:12.391>up <01:01:12.508>going <01:01:12.625>deeper <01:01:12.741>to <01:01:12.858>the <01:01:12.975>sources

1420
01:01:15.295 --> 01:01:17.635
<01:01:15.295>and <01:01:15.422>that's <01:01:15.549>always <01:01:15.676>the <01:01:15.804>next <01:01:15.931>step <01:01:16.058>that <01:01:16.185>for <01:01:16.313>me, <01:01:16.440>where <01:01:16.567>I <01:01:16.695>say,

1421
01:01:17.975 --> 01:01:19.075
<01:01:17.975>why <01:01:18.222>are <01:01:18.470>they <01:01:18.717>hiding <01:01:18.964>sources

1422
01:01:19.215 --> 01:01:21.915
<01:01:19.215>or <01:01:19.390>even <01:01:19.565>making <01:01:19.740>them <01:01:19.915>tiny <01:01:20.090>little <01:01:20.265>footnotes, <01:01:20.440>you <01:01:20.615>know,

1423
01:01:21.945 --> 01:01:23.315
<01:01:21.945>sometimes <01:01:22.356>you're <01:01:22.767>not <01:01:23.178>like

1424
01:01:23.315 --> 01:01:24.435
<01:01:23.315>on <01:01:23.567>Wikipedia <01:01:23.819>where <01:01:24.071>they're <01:01:24.323>numbers.

1425
01:01:24.705 --> 01:01:26.275
<01:01:24.705>I've <01:01:24.938>seen <01:01:25.171>them <01:01:25.404>like <01:01:25.638>that <01:01:25.871>in <01:01:26.105>summaries

1426
01:01:26.275 --> 01:01:28.275
<01:01:26.275>where <01:01:26.475>I <01:01:26.675>thought, <01:01:26.875>why <01:01:27.075>is <01:01:27.275>this <01:01:27.475>not <01:01:27.675>upfront?

1427
01:01:28.545 --> 01:01:29.875
<01:01:28.545>Tell <01:01:28.744>me <01:01:28.944>where, <01:01:29.143>what <01:01:29.343>this <01:01:29.542>source <01:01:29.742>is.

1428
01:01:30.095 --> 01:01:33.435
<01:01:30.095>So <01:01:30.222>I <01:01:30.349>think <01:01:30.476>there's <01:01:30.604>still <01:01:30.731>some <01:01:30.858>way <01:01:30.985>to <01:01:31.113>go <01:01:31.240>towards <01:01:31.367>like <01:01:31.495>trying

1429
01:01:33.435 --> 01:01:35.395
<01:01:33.435>to <01:01:33.610>make <01:01:33.785>a <01:01:33.960>nice <01:01:34.134>summary <01:01:34.310>that <01:01:34.485>people <01:01:34.660>can <01:01:34.835>read

1430
01:01:35.395 --> 01:01:38.435
<01:01:35.395>to <01:01:35.550>get <01:01:35.706>a <01:01:35.861>response, <01:01:36.017>but <01:01:36.172>then <01:01:36.328>actually <01:01:36.483>making <01:01:36.639>that <01:01:36.795>response

1431
01:01:38.995 --> 01:01:40.795
<01:01:38.995>verifiable <01:01:39.194>would <01:01:39.395>be <01:01:39.595>the <01:01:39.795>thing <01:01:39.995>I <01:01:40.194>would <01:01:40.395>like

1432
01:01:40.855 --> 01:01:42.395
<01:01:40.855>and <01:01:41.086>just <01:01:41.317>upfront <01:01:41.548>with <01:01:41.779>all <01:01:42.010>of <01:01:42.241>that.

1433
01:01:42.935 --> 01:01:45.035
<01:01:42.935>Um, <01:01:43.075>so <01:01:43.215>I <01:01:43.355>dunno <01:01:43.495>exactly <01:01:43.634>what <01:01:43.775>that <01:01:43.915>tool <01:01:44.055>would <01:01:44.195>look <01:01:44.335>like,

1434
01:01:45.135 --> 01:01:46.155
<01:01:45.135>but <01:01:45.364>it's <01:01:45.594>not <01:01:45.823>quite <01:01:46.053>there.