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321
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339
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<00:15:04.435>that <00:15:04.640>they <00:15:04.846>get <00:15:05.051>something <00:15:05.257>to <00:15:05.462>eat <00:15:05.667>mm-hmm.

340
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<00:15:06.235>That <00:15:06.390>they <00:15:06.546>are <00:15:06.701>safe <00:15:06.857>and <00:15:07.012>all <00:15:07.168>these <00:15:07.323>kind <00:15:07.479>of <00:15:07.635>stuff,

341
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342
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344
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<00:15:16.755>than <00:15:16.930>it <00:15:17.105>was <00:15:17.280>I <00:15:17.455>would <00:15:17.630>say <00:15:17.805>in <00:15:17.980>the <00:15:18.155>past.

345
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346
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347
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348
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<00:15:25.385>leader <00:15:25.560>skills <00:15:25.735>in <00:15:25.910>the <00:15:26.085>near <00:15:26.260>future <00:15:26.435>already <00:15:26.610>now. <00:15:26.785>Right.

349
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<00:15:29.205>I <00:15:29.438>would, <00:15:29.671>I <00:15:29.905>would <00:15:30.138>completely <00:15:30.371>agree. <00:15:30.605>Huh.

350
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351
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352
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<00:15:38.525>and <00:15:38.680>we've <00:15:38.836>seen <00:15:38.991>the <00:15:39.147>last <00:15:39.302>30 <00:15:39.458>years <00:15:39.613>in <00:15:39.769>management <00:15:39.925>development

353
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354
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355
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<00:15:47.305>10, <00:15:47.479>15 <00:15:47.655>years <00:15:47.829>ago, <00:15:48.005>everybody <00:15:48.180>talked <00:15:48.354>about <00:15:48.530>vuca. <00:15:48.704>Mm-hmm.

356
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357
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358
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359
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360
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361
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<00:16:01.875>Yeah. <00:16:02.225>Uh, <00:16:02.575>eh, <00:16:02.925>now, <00:16:03.275>eh,

362
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<00:16:05.305>and <00:16:05.538>a <00:16:05.771>lot <00:16:06.005>of <00:16:06.238>political <00:16:06.471>impacts, <00:16:06.704>eh,

363
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<00:16:08.425>we <00:16:08.580>can <00:16:08.736>talk <00:16:08.891>about <00:16:09.047>terrorists <00:16:09.202>in <00:16:09.358>the <00:16:09.513>us <00:16:09.669>you <00:16:09.824>don't

364
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<00:16:11.085>know <00:16:11.272>how <00:16:11.459>the <00:16:11.646>business <00:16:11.833>looks <00:16:12.021>like.

365
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<00:16:12.145>Mm-hmm. <00:16:13.063>Four

366
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<00:16:13.165>or <00:16:13.305>five <00:16:13.444>years <00:16:13.584>ago <00:16:13.724>I <00:16:13.865>saw <00:16:14.005>we <00:16:14.145>were <00:16:14.285>pretty <00:16:14.425>clear <00:16:14.564>how

367
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368
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<00:16:21.155>Okay. <00:16:21.388>When <00:16:21.621>it <00:16:21.855>comes <00:16:22.088>to <00:16:22.321>electrification <00:16:22.555>mm-hmm.

369
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<00:16:23.905>End <00:16:24.185>of <00:16:24.464>25, <00:16:24.745>it's <00:16:25.025>totally <00:16:25.305>different.

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371
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373
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374
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<00:16:38.285>Which <00:16:38.425>by <00:16:38.564>the <00:16:38.704>way, <00:16:38.844>makes <00:16:38.985>it <00:16:39.125>not <00:16:39.265>easy <00:16:39.405>for <00:16:39.545>companies. <00:16:39.685>Yeah.

375
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376
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377
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378
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382
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<00:17:04.444>where <00:17:04.600>say <00:17:04.756>it's <00:17:04.911>easier <00:17:05.067>in, <00:17:05.222>in, <00:17:05.378>in <00:17:05.533>some <00:17:05.689>regions <00:17:05.845>to,

383
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<00:17:08.145>to <00:17:08.300>implement <00:17:08.456>this <00:17:08.611>kind <00:17:08.767>of <00:17:08.922>mindset <00:17:09.078>shift <00:17:09.233>than <00:17:09.389>in <00:17:09.545>others?

384
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385
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<00:17:14.395>because <00:17:14.522>whatever <00:17:14.649>you <00:17:14.776>say, <00:17:14.904>you <00:17:15.031>have <00:17:15.158>to <00:17:15.285>be <00:17:15.413>careful <00:17:15.540>who <00:17:15.667>we <00:17:15.795>are.

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387
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<00:17:18.785>and <00:17:18.960>I <00:17:19.135>mean <00:17:19.310>it, <00:17:19.485>I <00:17:19.660>mean <00:17:19.835>it <00:17:20.010>really <00:17:20.185>serious.

388
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<00:17:21.075>Yeah. <00:17:21.230>We <00:17:21.386>have <00:17:21.541>great <00:17:21.697>people <00:17:21.852>all <00:17:22.008>around <00:17:22.163>the <00:17:22.319>globe. <00:17:22.475>Yeah.

389
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390
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391
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392
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<00:17:32.965>Mm-hmm. <00:17:33.139>And <00:17:33.314>this <00:17:33.490>is <00:17:33.665>what <00:17:33.840>I <00:17:34.014>really <00:17:34.189>believe. <00:17:34.365>Mm-hmm.

393
00:17:35.205 --> 00:17:38.525
<00:17:35.205>But <00:17:35.379>for <00:17:35.554>sure, <00:17:35.730>you <00:17:35.905>see <00:17:36.080>a <00:17:36.254>lot <00:17:36.429>of <00:17:36.605>differences.

394
00:17:38.625 --> 00:17:41.285
<00:17:38.625>And <00:17:38.858>now, <00:17:39.091>now <00:17:39.325>the <00:17:39.558>easier <00:17:39.791>part, <00:17:40.025>eh,

395
00:17:41.925 --> 00:17:44.005
<00:17:41.925>starting <00:17:42.125>when <00:17:42.325>you <00:17:42.524>talk <00:17:42.725>about <00:17:42.925>age <00:17:43.125>structures <00:17:43.325>mm-hmm.

396
00:17:44.085 --> 00:17:45.245
<00:17:44.085>And <00:17:44.433>qualification, <00:17:44.781>eh <00:17:45.129>mm-hmm.

397
00:17:46.195 --> 00:17:48.005
<00:17:46.195>Last <00:17:46.350>week <00:17:46.506>or <00:17:46.661>the <00:17:46.817>week <00:17:46.972>before, <00:17:47.128>it <00:17:47.283>was <00:17:47.439>in <00:17:47.595>India,

398
00:17:48.145 --> 00:17:49.365
<00:17:48.145>we <00:17:48.419>talked <00:17:48.694>about <00:17:48.968>India <00:17:49.243>before.

399
00:17:49.365 --> 00:17:51.845
<00:17:49.365>Mm-hmm. <00:17:49.598>Mm-hmm. <00:17:49.831>The <00:17:50.065>average <00:17:50.298>age <00:17:50.531>is <00:17:50.765>15

400
00:17:51.845 --> 00:17:52.925
<00:17:51.845>years <00:17:52.088>younger <00:17:52.331>than <00:17:52.574>in <00:17:52.817>Germany.

401
00:17:53.115 --> 00:17:56.685
<00:17:53.115>Yeah. <00:17:53.242>And <00:17:53.369>also <00:17:53.496>in <00:17:53.624>Japan, <00:17:53.751>by <00:17:53.878>the <00:17:54.005>way, <00:17:54.133>this <00:17:54.260>is <00:17:54.387>a <00:17:54.515>different

402
00:17:57.335 --> 00:17:58.685
<00:17:57.335>generation, <00:17:57.740>I <00:17:58.145>would <00:17:58.550>say.

403
00:17:58.685 --> 00:18:03.565
<00:17:58.685>Mm-hmm. <00:17:58.840>Mm-hmm. <00:17:58.996>Then <00:17:59.151>for <00:17:59.307>sure, <00:17:59.462>at <00:17:59.618>least, <00:17:59.773>let's <00:17:59.929>take <00:18:00.085>Germany

404
00:18:03.625 --> 00:18:07.925
<00:18:03.625>as <00:18:03.858>an <00:18:04.091>example, <00:18:04.325>knowing <00:18:04.558>that <00:18:04.791>a <00:18:05.025>lot

405
00:18:07.925 --> 00:18:10.405
<00:18:07.925>of <00:18:08.100>people <00:18:08.274>have <00:18:08.450>a <00:18:08.625>lot <00:18:08.800>of <00:18:08.975>difficulties <00:18:09.149>in <00:18:09.325>principle.

406
00:18:10.435 --> 00:18:12.125
<00:18:10.435>Yeah. <00:18:10.784>It's <00:18:11.135>a <00:18:11.485>rich <00:18:11.835>country.

407
00:18:12.475 --> 00:18:15.965
<00:18:12.475>There's <00:18:12.630>a <00:18:12.786>lot <00:18:12.941>of <00:18:13.097>welfare <00:18:13.252>created <00:18:13.408>over <00:18:13.563>the <00:18:13.719>last <00:18:13.875>five

408
00:18:16.025 --> 00:18:17.485
<00:18:16.025>or <00:18:16.463>six <00:18:16.901>decades <00:18:17.339>mm-hmm.

409
00:18:17.675 --> 00:18:19.925
<00:18:17.675>With <00:18:17.830>a <00:18:17.986>lot <00:18:18.141>of <00:18:18.297>motivation, <00:18:18.452>with <00:18:18.608>a <00:18:18.763>lot <00:18:18.919>of <00:18:19.075>power,

410
00:18:19.995 --> 00:18:23.325
<00:18:19.995>with <00:18:20.195>German <00:18:20.395>engineering, <00:18:20.594>with <00:18:20.794>these <00:18:20.995>typical <00:18:21.195>German <00:18:21.395>kind

411
00:18:23.325 --> 00:18:25.125
<00:18:23.325>of <00:18:24.725>attributes.

412
00:18:25.125 --> 00:18:27.365
<00:18:25.125>Mm-hmm. <00:18:25.358>It's, <00:18:25.591>uh, <00:18:25.825>like, <00:18:26.058>uh, <00:18:26.291>being <00:18:26.525>bold,

413
00:18:27.375 --> 00:18:31.765
<00:18:27.375>being <00:18:27.608>engineer <00:18:27.841>driven, <00:18:28.075>uh, <00:18:28.308>there <00:18:28.541>we <00:18:28.775>have

414
00:18:31.765 --> 00:18:34.125
<00:18:31.765>to <00:18:31.998>check <00:18:32.231>if <00:18:32.465>we <00:18:32.698>are <00:18:32.931>still <00:18:33.165>there.

415
00:18:34.225 --> 00:18:38.765
<00:18:34.225>Mm-hmm. <00:18:34.352>But <00:18:34.479>what <00:18:34.606>we <00:18:34.734>also <00:18:34.861>see <00:18:34.988>is <00:18:35.115>that <00:18:35.243>we <00:18:35.370>have <00:18:35.497>a <00:18:35.625>lot

416
00:18:38.765 --> 00:18:40.925
<00:18:38.765>of <00:18:39.115>countries <00:18:39.465>where <00:18:39.815>you <00:18:40.165>see,

417
00:18:42.225 --> 00:18:44.125
<00:18:42.225>and <00:18:42.458>I'm <00:18:42.691>only <00:18:42.925>talking <00:18:43.158>about <00:18:43.391>our <00:18:43.625>employees,

418
00:18:45.205 --> 00:18:50.165
<00:18:45.205>young <00:18:45.485>generation <00:18:45.764>coming <00:18:46.044>in, <00:18:46.324>super <00:18:46.605>motivated.

419
00:18:50.165 --> 00:18:51.725
<00:18:50.165>Mm-hmm. <00:18:51.565>Uh,

420
00:18:52.875 --> 00:18:55.005
<00:18:52.875>less <00:18:53.155>discussions <00:18:53.435>also <00:18:53.715>about <00:18:53.995>work <00:18:54.275>life

421
00:18:55.005 --> 00:18:56.565
<00:18:55.005>balance, <00:18:55.705>less <00:18:56.405>discussions.

422
00:18:57.075 --> 00:18:58.285
<00:18:57.075>It's <00:18:57.347>coming <00:18:57.619>up <00:18:57.891>everywhere. <00:18:58.164>Yeah.

423
00:18:58.505 --> 00:19:00.285
<00:18:58.505>So <00:18:58.705>I'm <00:18:58.905>not <00:18:59.105>saying <00:18:59.305>good <00:18:59.505>or <00:18:59.705>bad. <00:18:59.905>Yeah.

424
00:19:00.505 --> 00:19:04.565
<00:19:00.505>But <00:19:00.680>I'm <00:19:00.855>saying <00:19:01.030>you, <00:19:01.205>you, <00:19:01.380>you <00:19:01.555>feel <00:19:01.730>in <00:19:01.905>societies,

425
00:19:06.955 --> 00:19:11.485
<00:19:06.955>like <00:19:07.110>for <00:19:07.266>example, <00:19:07.421>India, <00:19:07.577>maybe <00:19:07.732>also <00:19:07.888>now <00:19:08.043>in <00:19:08.199>Turkey, <00:19:08.355>Mexico,

426
00:19:12.415 --> 00:19:16.685
<00:19:12.415>where <00:19:12.570>we <00:19:12.726>have <00:19:12.881>a <00:19:13.037>younger <00:19:13.192>population <00:19:13.348>in <00:19:13.503>our <00:19:13.659>companies <00:19:13.815>mm-hmm.

427
00:19:17.665 --> 00:19:21.325
<00:19:17.665>And <00:19:17.898>the <00:19:18.131>willingness <00:19:18.365>to <00:19:18.598>increase <00:19:18.831>the <00:19:19.065>own

428
00:19:22.195 --> 00:19:25.565
<00:19:22.195>welfare, <00:19:22.395>by <00:19:22.595>the <00:19:22.794>way, <00:19:22.995>also <00:19:23.195>sometimes <00:19:23.395>income <00:19:23.595>Yeah.

429
00:19:26.305 --> 00:19:30.325
<00:19:26.305>Um, <00:19:26.460>is <00:19:26.616>maybe <00:19:26.771>a <00:19:26.927>little <00:19:27.082>bit <00:19:27.238>stronger <00:19:27.393>than <00:19:27.549>here. <00:19:27.705>Mm-hmm.

430
00:19:30.705 --> 00:19:35.325
<00:19:30.705>And <00:19:30.845>from <00:19:30.985>a <00:19:31.125>German <00:19:31.264>perspective, <00:19:31.405>there <00:19:31.544>is <00:19:31.685>a <00:19:31.824>huge <00:19:31.965>debate <00:19:32.105>again.

431
00:19:35.325 --> 00:19:37.125
<00:19:35.325>Yeah. <00:19:36.025>And, <00:19:36.725>or,

432
00:19:37.745 --> 00:19:40.485
<00:19:37.745>or <00:19:38.211>it's <00:19:38.678>not <00:19:39.145>when,

433
00:19:40.485 --> 00:19:42.605
<00:19:40.485>when <00:19:40.764>you're <00:19:41.044>criticizing <00:19:41.324>hear <00:19:41.604>something <00:19:41.885>mm-hmm.

434
00:19:42.945 --> 00:19:45.325
<00:19:42.945>Uh, <00:19:43.145>then <00:19:43.345>you <00:19:43.544>are <00:19:43.745>always <00:19:43.945>doing <00:19:44.145>German <00:19:44.345>bashing.

435
00:19:46.825 --> 00:19:49.205
<00:19:46.825>And <00:19:47.025>if <00:19:47.225>you <00:19:47.425>say, <00:19:47.625>Hey, <00:19:47.825>where's <00:19:48.025>the <00:19:48.225>problem?

436
00:19:49.915 --> 00:19:53.085
<00:19:49.915>Then <00:19:50.070>you <00:19:50.226>are <00:19:50.381>supposed <00:19:50.537>to <00:19:50.692>be <00:19:50.848>one <00:19:51.003>who's <00:19:51.159>ignoring <00:19:51.315>challenges.

437
00:19:53.185 --> 00:19:56.725
<00:19:53.185>Mm-hmm. <00:19:53.360>Yeah. <00:19:53.534>It's, <00:19:53.710>you <00:19:53.885>can't <00:19:54.060>do <00:19:54.235>it. <00:19:54.409>Right. <00:19:54.585>Yeah.

438
00:19:57.215 --> 00:19:59.045
<00:19:57.215>Again, <00:19:57.495>it's, <00:19:57.774>it's, <00:19:58.054>and <00:19:58.334>eh, <00:19:58.615>yeah.

439
00:19:59.545 --> 00:20:01.565
<00:19:59.545>You <00:19:59.700>have <00:19:59.856>to <00:20:00.011>be <00:20:00.167>proud <00:20:00.322>what <00:20:00.478>you <00:20:00.633>have <00:20:00.789>reached. <00:20:00.945>Yeah.

440
00:20:02.465 --> 00:20:03.925
<00:20:02.465>But <00:20:02.684>you <00:20:02.903>have <00:20:03.121>to <00:20:03.341>change <00:20:03.560>yourself. <00:20:03.779>Yeah.

441
00:20:03.925 --> 00:20:08.765
<00:20:03.925>And, <00:20:04.125>uh, <00:20:04.325>my <00:20:04.524>own <00:20:04.725>belief <00:20:04.925>is <00:20:05.125>that, <00:20:05.325>uh,

442
00:20:08.835 --> 00:20:11.165
<00:20:08.835>it's <00:20:09.010>not <00:20:09.185>so <00:20:09.360>much <00:20:09.535>that <00:20:09.710>everything <00:20:09.885>got <00:20:10.060>worse <00:20:10.235>here.

443
00:20:11.225 --> 00:20:13.045
<00:20:11.225>Mm-hmm. <00:20:11.574>But <00:20:11.925>what <00:20:12.274>I <00:20:12.625>see,

444
00:20:13.185 --> 00:20:14.845
<00:20:13.185>and <00:20:13.465>you <00:20:13.745>talked <00:20:14.024>about <00:20:14.304>different <00:20:14.585>countries,

445
00:20:14.845 --> 00:20:18.445
<00:20:14.845>and <00:20:15.020>my <00:20:15.195>observation <00:20:15.370>is <00:20:15.545>that <00:20:15.720>a <00:20:15.895>lot <00:20:16.070>of <00:20:16.245>other

446
00:20:19.885 --> 00:20:22.485
<00:20:19.885>countries <00:20:20.235>have <00:20:20.585>catched <00:20:20.935>up <00:20:21.285>mm-hmm.

447
00:20:22.865 --> 00:20:25.285
<00:20:22.865>Or <00:20:23.215>sometimes <00:20:23.565>even <00:20:23.915>have <00:20:24.265>overtaken,

448
00:20:25.285 --> 00:20:26.845
<00:20:25.285>which <00:20:25.635>is <00:20:25.985>a <00:20:26.335>different <00:20:26.685>perspective.

449
00:20:26.955 --> 00:20:30.165
<00:20:26.955>It's <00:20:27.095>not <00:20:27.235>always <00:20:27.375>this <00:20:27.514>negative <00:20:27.655>here. <00:20:27.794>Now <00:20:27.935>it's <00:20:28.074>all <00:20:28.215>bad. <00:20:28.355>Right.

450
00:20:30.745 --> 00:20:35.565
<00:20:30.745>But <00:20:30.900>we <00:20:31.056>are, <00:20:31.211>uh, <00:20:31.367>in <00:20:31.522>an <00:20:31.678>international <00:20:31.833>competition. <00:20:31.989>Yeah. <00:20:32.145>Yeah.

451
00:20:35.785 --> 00:20:39.365
<00:20:35.785>And <00:20:35.892>for <00:20:36.000>me, <00:20:36.108>as <00:20:36.215>a <00:20:36.323>head <00:20:36.431>of <00:20:36.538>HR <00:20:36.646>of <00:20:36.754>a <00:20:36.861>global <00:20:36.969>company, <00:20:37.077>for <00:20:37.185>sure,

452
00:20:41.425 --> 00:20:42.845
<00:20:41.425>I'm <00:20:41.680>supporting <00:20:41.936>all <00:20:42.191>the <00:20:42.447>different <00:20:42.703>regions.

453
00:20:43.275 --> 00:20:45.045
<00:20:43.275>It's <00:20:43.475>not <00:20:43.675>that <00:20:43.875>I <00:20:44.075>like <00:20:44.275>this <00:20:44.475>or <00:20:44.675>more,

454
00:20:45.045 --> 00:20:49.485
<00:20:45.045>but <00:20:45.161>from <00:20:45.278>a <00:20:45.395>purely <00:20:45.511>germ, <00:20:45.628>you <00:20:45.745>have <00:20:45.861>to <00:20:45.978>admit <00:20:46.095>that <00:20:46.211>a <00:20:46.328>lot <00:20:46.445>of

455
00:20:50.415 --> 00:20:54.725
<00:20:50.415>other <00:20:50.590>countries <00:20:50.764>and <00:20:50.940>other <00:20:51.115>entities <00:20:51.290>in <00:20:51.465>our <00:20:51.639>business <00:20:51.815>mm-hmm.

456
00:20:55.835 --> 00:20:59.565
<00:20:55.835>Have <00:20:56.035>extremely <00:20:56.235>catched <00:20:56.435>up <00:20:56.635>or <00:20:56.835>even <00:20:57.035>even <00:20:57.235>overtaken.

457
00:20:59.945 --> 00:21:01.165
<00:20:59.945>Do, <00:21:00.164>do <00:21:00.384>you <00:21:00.603>see <00:21:00.823>one <00:21:01.043>skill

458
00:21:01.165 --> 00:21:05.925
<00:21:01.165>that <00:21:01.320>you <00:21:01.476>could <00:21:01.631>probably <00:21:01.787>put <00:21:01.942>in <00:21:02.098>place <00:21:02.253>which <00:21:02.409>underlines, <00:21:02.565>uh,

459
00:21:06.595 --> 00:21:10.485
<00:21:06.595>this <00:21:06.828>kind <00:21:07.061>of, <00:21:07.295>some, <00:21:07.528>some <00:21:07.761>regions, <00:21:07.995>uh,

460
00:21:10.985 --> 00:21:13.765
<00:21:10.985>are <00:21:11.159>better <00:21:11.334>in <00:21:11.510>catching <00:21:11.685>up <00:21:11.860>to <00:21:12.034>the <00:21:12.209>future <00:21:12.385>needs?

461
00:21:15.205 --> 00:21:17.685
<00:21:15.205>I <00:21:15.485>mean, <00:21:15.764>I <00:21:16.044>normally <00:21:16.324>use <00:21:16.605>curiosity

462
00:21:17.685 --> 00:21:20.045
<00:21:17.685>because <00:21:17.860>I <00:21:18.034>think <00:21:18.210>sometimes <00:21:18.385>I <00:21:18.560>have <00:21:18.735>the <00:21:18.909>impression <00:21:19.085>that,

463
00:21:20.145 --> 00:21:23.525
<00:21:20.145>or <00:21:20.285>the <00:21:20.425>feeling <00:21:20.565>that <00:21:20.705>we <00:21:20.845>have <00:21:20.985>lost <00:21:21.125>the <00:21:21.264>curiosity, <00:21:21.405>this <00:21:21.545>kind

464
00:21:23.605 --> 00:21:27.445
<00:21:23.605>of <00:21:23.805>childish <00:21:24.005>curiosity <00:21:24.205>to <00:21:24.405>really <00:21:24.605>try <00:21:24.805>new <00:21:25.005>things.

465
00:21:27.645 --> 00:21:30.725
<00:21:27.645>I <00:21:27.772>mean, <00:21:27.899>when <00:21:28.026>I, <00:21:28.154>when <00:21:28.281>I <00:21:28.408>remember <00:21:28.535>the <00:21:28.663>first, <00:21:28.790>the <00:21:28.917>first <00:21:29.045>contact

466
00:21:30.755 --> 00:21:32.845
<00:21:30.755>that <00:21:30.955>I <00:21:31.155>had <00:21:31.355>with <00:21:31.555>chat <00:21:31.755>g <00:21:31.955>pt <00:21:32.155>and,

467
00:21:32.865 --> 00:21:36.765
<00:21:32.865>and <00:21:33.065>OpenAI <00:21:33.265>was <00:21:33.465>a, <00:21:33.665>a <00:21:33.865>panel <00:21:34.065>discussion, <00:21:34.265>uh,

468
00:21:36.865 --> 00:21:40.445
<00:21:36.865>of <00:21:37.020>four <00:21:37.176>university <00:21:37.331>professors <00:21:37.487>in <00:21:37.642>Austria <00:21:37.798>sitting <00:21:37.953>on <00:21:38.109>a <00:21:38.265>panel

469
00:21:40.535 --> 00:21:42.725
<00:21:40.535>discussing <00:21:40.885>what <00:21:41.235>could <00:21:41.585>be <00:21:41.935>done

470
00:21:42.825 --> 00:21:45.485
<00:21:42.825>to <00:21:43.025>really <00:21:43.225>get <00:21:43.425>this <00:21:43.625>from <00:21:43.825>the <00:21:44.025>table <00:21:44.225>again,

471
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<00:21:45.485>because <00:21:45.659>you <00:21:45.834>are <00:21:46.010>able <00:21:46.185>to <00:21:46.360>really <00:21:46.534>fake <00:21:46.709>bachelor, <00:21:46.885>uh,

472
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<00:21:49.365>bachelor <00:21:49.598>works <00:21:49.831>and, <00:21:50.065>and <00:21:50.298>bachelor, <00:21:50.531>bachelor <00:21:50.765>papers.

473
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<00:21:52.735>Again, <00:21:52.992>I <00:21:53.249>have <00:21:53.507>to <00:21:53.764>be <00:21:54.022>careful

474
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<00:21:54.235>that <00:21:54.514>I'm <00:21:54.794>not <00:21:55.074>stepping <00:21:55.354>into <00:21:55.635>stereotypes.

475
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<00:21:56.285>Yeah, <00:21:56.412>yeah, <00:21:56.539>of <00:21:56.666>course. <00:21:56.794>Uh, <00:21:56.921>but <00:21:57.048>what <00:21:57.175>I, <00:21:57.303>what <00:21:57.430>I <00:21:57.557>observe <00:21:57.685>is,

476
00:22:01.145 --> 00:22:02.885
<00:22:01.145>and <00:22:01.345>I <00:22:01.545>don't <00:22:01.745>know <00:22:01.945>if <00:22:02.145>this <00:22:02.345>is <00:22:02.545>maybe

477
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<00:22:03.555>also <00:22:03.835>sometimes <00:22:04.115>a <00:22:04.395>little <00:22:04.675>bit <00:22:04.955>mentality,

478
00:22:06.465 --> 00:22:09.365
<00:22:06.465>and <00:22:06.592>I <00:22:06.719>lived <00:22:06.846>several <00:22:06.974>years <00:22:07.101>in <00:22:07.228>China <00:22:07.355>when <00:22:07.483>I'm <00:22:07.610>China <00:22:07.737>in <00:22:07.865>India,

479
00:22:11.835 --> 00:22:14.005
<00:22:11.835>when <00:22:12.068>when <00:22:12.301>you <00:22:12.535>discuss <00:22:12.768>there <00:22:13.001>about <00:22:13.235>ai,

480
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<00:22:14.825>you <00:22:15.175>basically <00:22:15.525>discuss <00:22:15.875>about <00:22:16.225>opportunities.

481
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<00:22:16.795>Yeah. <00:22:16.970>Yeah. <00:22:17.145>Here <00:22:17.320>you <00:22:17.495>sometimes <00:22:17.670>also <00:22:17.845>talk <00:22:18.020>a <00:22:18.195>little

482
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<00:22:21.545>bit <00:22:22.245>about <00:22:22.945>risks.

483
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<00:22:25.145>So <00:22:25.345>this <00:22:25.545>is, <00:22:25.745>this <00:22:25.945>is <00:22:26.145>a <00:22:26.345>huge <00:22:26.545>difference.

484
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<00:22:28.065>Eh, <00:22:28.366>you <00:22:28.668>call <00:22:28.969>it <00:22:29.271>curiosity.

485
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<00:22:29.635>This <00:22:29.810>willingness <00:22:29.985>to <00:22:30.160>explore <00:22:30.335>what's <00:22:30.510>possible. <00:22:30.685>Let's <00:22:30.860>use <00:22:31.035>it.

486
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<00:22:32.865>And <00:22:33.215>I <00:22:33.565>see <00:22:33.915>this <00:22:34.265>parts

487
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<00:22:36.645>of <00:22:36.816>our <00:22:36.987>company <00:22:37.158>a <00:22:37.329>little <00:22:37.500>bit <00:22:37.671>more <00:22:37.841>than <00:22:38.013>here,

488
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<00:22:38.225>but <00:22:38.432>we <00:22:38.639>also <00:22:38.846>have <00:22:39.053>here <00:22:39.260>great <00:22:39.467>people.

489
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<00:22:39.825>We <00:22:40.108>also <00:22:40.392>have <00:22:40.675>wonderful <00:22:40.959>people.

490
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<00:22:42.145>Um, <00:22:42.320>but, <00:22:42.495>uh, <00:22:42.670>I <00:22:42.845>would <00:22:43.020>say <00:22:43.195>in <00:22:43.370>average, <00:22:43.545>uh,

491
00:22:46.985 --> 00:22:48.125
<00:22:46.985>the <00:22:47.498>openness <00:22:48.011>mm-hmm.

492
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<00:22:48.305>If <00:22:48.480>you, <00:22:48.655>if <00:22:48.830>you <00:22:49.005>talk <00:22:49.180>about, <00:22:49.355>for <00:22:49.530>example, <00:22:49.705>China

493
00:22:50.725 --> 00:22:54.885
<00:22:50.725>and <00:22:50.852>India, <00:22:50.979>when <00:22:51.106>it <00:22:51.234>comes <00:22:51.361>to <00:22:51.488>AI <00:22:51.615>is, <00:22:51.743>is <00:22:51.870>bigger <00:22:51.997>than <00:22:52.125>here.

494
00:22:55.675 --> 00:22:58.485
<00:22:55.675>It's <00:22:56.024>sometimes <00:22:56.375>also <00:22:56.725>theater, <00:22:57.075>but,

495
00:22:58.545 --> 00:23:01.365
<00:22:58.545>but <00:22:58.778>it's <00:22:59.011>not <00:22:59.245>only <00:22:59.478>ai <00:22:59.711>for <00:22:59.945>sure.

496
00:23:01.395 --> 00:23:05.645
<00:23:01.395>When <00:23:01.550>you <00:23:01.706>have <00:23:01.861>reached <00:23:02.017>a <00:23:02.172>certain <00:23:02.328>level <00:23:02.483>of <00:23:02.639>welfare <00:23:02.795>mm-hmm.

497
00:23:05.725 --> 00:23:08.205
<00:23:05.725>And <00:23:05.925>everybody <00:23:06.125>is <00:23:06.324>discussing <00:23:06.524>that <00:23:06.725>the <00:23:06.925>future <00:23:07.125>is

498
00:23:09.405 --> 00:23:11.685
<00:23:09.405>a <00:23:09.545>little <00:23:09.685>bit <00:23:09.825>worse <00:23:09.965>than <00:23:10.105>what <00:23:10.245>you <00:23:10.385>have <00:23:10.524>today, <00:23:10.665>of <00:23:10.805>course.

499
00:23:11.795 --> 00:23:13.285
<00:23:11.795>Than <00:23:12.465>relative. <00:23:13.136>Yeah.

500
00:23:13.755 --> 00:23:15.565
<00:23:13.755>Life <00:23:14.035>is <00:23:14.315>getting <00:23:14.595>harder, <00:23:14.875>even <00:23:15.155>absolute,

501
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<00:23:16.155>it's <00:23:16.355>still <00:23:16.555>on <00:23:16.754>a <00:23:16.955>very <00:23:17.155>high, <00:23:17.355>high <00:23:17.555>level.

502
00:23:18.435 --> 00:23:23.125
<00:23:18.435>High <00:23:18.635>level. <00:23:18.835>Yeah. <00:23:19.034>And <00:23:19.235>then <00:23:19.435>you <00:23:19.635>automatically <00:23:19.835>try

503
00:23:23.125 --> 00:23:25.165
<00:23:23.125>to <00:23:23.300>think <00:23:23.475>about <00:23:23.650>how <00:23:23.825>could <00:23:24.000>I <00:23:24.175>maintain <00:23:24.350>it? <00:23:24.525>Yeah,

504
00:23:25.165 --> 00:23:26.165
<00:23:25.165>Of <00:23:26.065>course.

505
00:23:26.745 --> 00:23:31.445
<00:23:26.745>And <00:23:26.945>I'm <00:23:27.145>more <00:23:27.344>than <00:23:27.544>convinced <00:23:27.745>then <00:23:27.945>the <00:23:28.145>strategy,

506
00:23:31.635 --> 00:23:33.485
<00:23:31.635>then <00:23:31.835>you <00:23:32.035>have <00:23:32.235>to <00:23:32.435>protect <00:23:32.635>everything <00:23:32.835>you <00:23:33.035>have

507
00:23:33.785 --> 00:23:36.125
<00:23:33.785>and <00:23:34.065>automatically <00:23:34.345>maintain <00:23:34.625>what <00:23:34.905>you <00:23:35.185>have

508
00:23:37.185 --> 00:23:41.085
<00:23:37.185>is <00:23:37.385>the <00:23:37.585>absolutely <00:23:37.784>strong, <00:23:37.985>uh, <00:23:38.185>strong, <00:23:38.385>wrong <00:23:38.585>strategy.

509
00:23:41.745 --> 00:23:46.565
<00:23:41.745>You <00:23:41.885>have <00:23:42.024>to <00:23:42.165>be <00:23:42.304>strong <00:23:42.445>in <00:23:42.584>reinventing <00:23:42.725>yourself <00:23:42.864>all <00:23:43.004>the <00:23:43.145>time,

510
00:23:46.565 --> 00:23:50.965
<00:23:46.565>because <00:23:46.720>if <00:23:46.876>you <00:23:47.031>don't <00:23:47.187>do <00:23:47.342>it <00:23:47.498>here, <00:23:47.653>others <00:23:47.809>will <00:23:47.965>mm-hmm.

511
00:23:51.275 --> 00:23:55.445
<00:23:51.275>Will <00:23:51.450>do <00:23:51.625>it. <00:23:51.800>And <00:23:51.975>again, <00:23:52.150>uh, <00:23:52.325>it's <00:23:52.500>also <00:23:52.675>here,

512
00:23:57.195 --> 00:23:58.685
<00:23:57.195>it's, <00:23:57.641>and <00:23:58.089>yeah, <00:23:58.536>yeah.

513
00:23:58.685 --> 00:24:00.565
<00:23:58.685>Of <00:23:58.825>course <00:23:58.965>you <00:23:59.105>have <00:23:59.245>to <00:23:59.385>be <00:23:59.524>aware <00:23:59.665>of <00:23:59.804>the <00:23:59.945>risks. <00:24:00.085>Yeah.

514
00:24:00.985 --> 00:24:05.405
<00:24:00.985>But <00:24:01.125>you <00:24:01.264>have <00:24:01.405>to <00:24:01.544>utilize <00:24:01.685>it <00:24:01.824>mm-hmm. <00:24:01.965>As <00:24:02.104>much <00:24:02.245>as <00:24:02.385>possible.

515
00:24:05.465 --> 00:24:06.485
<00:24:05.465>And <00:24:05.648>you <00:24:05.832>have <00:24:06.015>to <00:24:06.199>be <00:24:06.382>curious.

516
00:24:06.585 --> 00:24:10.045
<00:24:06.585>You <00:24:06.785>have <00:24:06.985>to <00:24:07.185>be <00:24:07.385>open-minded, <00:24:07.585>uh, <00:24:07.785>for <00:24:07.985>sure.

517
00:24:10.745 --> 00:24:13.405
<00:24:10.745>And <00:24:10.900>it's <00:24:11.056>not <00:24:11.211>about <00:24:11.367>age, <00:24:11.522>eh, <00:24:11.678>you <00:24:11.833>have, <00:24:11.989>you <00:24:12.145>have

518
00:24:14.195 --> 00:24:16.165
<00:24:14.195>open-minded <00:24:14.544>people <00:24:14.895>that <00:24:15.245>are <00:24:15.595>95.

519
00:24:16.165 --> 00:24:17.805
<00:24:16.165>Yeah. <00:24:16.398>And <00:24:16.631>you <00:24:16.865>probably <00:24:17.098>have <00:24:17.331>not <00:24:17.565>open-minded

520
00:24:17.805 --> 00:24:18.845
<00:24:17.805>people <00:24:18.117>that <00:24:18.429>are <00:24:18.741>15.

521
00:24:18.995 --> 00:24:22.605
<00:24:18.995>Yeah. <00:24:19.195>But <00:24:19.395>in <00:24:19.594>general, <00:24:19.794>at <00:24:19.995>least, <00:24:20.195>uh, <00:24:20.395>and,

522
00:24:22.605 --> 00:24:26.925
<00:24:22.605>and <00:24:22.732>you <00:24:22.859>are, <00:24:22.986>you <00:24:23.114>are, <00:24:23.241>uh, <00:24:23.368>you, <00:24:23.495>you <00:24:23.623>are <00:24:23.750>so <00:24:23.877>much <00:24:24.005>connected

523
00:24:26.925 --> 00:24:28.205
<00:24:26.925>to <00:24:27.213>these <00:24:27.501>kind <00:24:27.789>of <00:24:28.077>community.

524
00:24:28.205 --> 00:24:30.445
<00:24:28.205>Mm-hmm. <00:24:28.905>For <00:24:29.605>sure.

525
00:24:30.985 --> 00:24:32.445
<00:24:30.985>At <00:24:31.247>least <00:24:31.510>we <00:24:31.773>are <00:24:32.036>not <00:24:32.299>belonging

526
00:24:32.445 --> 00:24:34.085
<00:24:32.445>to <00:24:32.645>a <00:24:32.845>generation <00:24:33.044>that <00:24:33.245>grew <00:24:33.445>up <00:24:33.645>with <00:24:33.845>this.

527
00:24:34.085 --> 00:24:36.805
<00:24:34.085>Mm-hmm. <00:24:34.260>So <00:24:34.435>we <00:24:34.610>have <00:24:34.785>to <00:24:34.960>open <00:24:35.135>our <00:24:35.310>minds <00:24:35.485>Yeah.

528
00:24:37.095 --> 00:24:41.005
<00:24:37.095>Maybe <00:24:37.270>much <00:24:37.445>more <00:24:37.620>than <00:24:37.795>people <00:24:37.970>who <00:24:38.145>grew <00:24:38.320>up <00:24:38.495>Yeah.

529
00:24:41.005 --> 00:24:44.245
<00:24:41.005>With <00:24:41.238>all <00:24:41.471>kind <00:24:41.705>of <00:24:41.938>devices <00:24:42.171>in, <00:24:42.405>in,

530
00:24:45.025 --> 00:24:46.045
<00:24:45.025>in <00:24:45.484>sorts <00:24:45.943>already.

531
00:24:46.045 --> 00:24:48.925
<00:24:46.045>Mm-hmm. <00:24:46.245>Yeah. <00:24:46.445>And <00:24:46.645>so <00:24:46.845>automatically, <00:24:47.045>when <00:24:47.245>you <00:24:47.445>have

532
00:24:49.725 --> 00:24:53.645
<00:24:49.725>a <00:24:49.865>population <00:24:50.004>which <00:24:50.145>has <00:24:50.284>reached <00:24:50.425>a <00:24:50.564>certain <00:24:50.705>level, <00:24:50.844>has <00:24:50.985>a <00:24:51.125>fear

533
00:24:53.645 --> 00:24:55.125
<00:24:53.645>that <00:24:53.978>it's <00:24:54.311>getting <00:24:54.644>worse <00:24:54.977>Yeah.

534
00:24:55.465 --> 00:24:57.885
<00:24:55.465>And <00:24:55.665>has <00:24:55.865>reached <00:24:56.064>a <00:24:56.264>certain <00:24:56.465>maturity <00:24:56.665>of <00:24:56.865>life

535
00:24:58.065 --> 00:24:59.805
<00:24:58.065>or <00:24:58.415>of <00:24:58.765>of <00:24:59.115>age <00:24:59.465>mm-hmm.

536
00:25:00.535 --> 00:25:02.725
<00:25:00.535>Maybe <00:25:01.001>has <00:25:01.468>to <00:25:01.935>think

537
00:25:02.865 --> 00:25:07.405
<00:25:02.865>or <00:25:03.040>is <00:25:03.215>thinking <00:25:03.390>differently <00:25:03.565>about <00:25:03.740>stuff <00:25:03.915>than <00:25:04.090>the <00:25:04.265>22-year-old

538
00:25:07.405 --> 00:25:09.245
<00:25:07.405>fresh <00:25:07.754>graduate <00:25:08.105>in <00:25:08.455>Bangalore. <00:25:08.805>Yeah.

539
00:25:09.355 --> 00:25:12.325
<00:25:09.355>Yeah. <00:25:09.495>Do <00:25:09.635>we <00:25:09.775>sometimes <00:25:09.915>have <00:25:10.055>to <00:25:10.195>put <00:25:10.335>us <00:25:10.475>ourself <00:25:10.615>in <00:25:10.755>front

540
00:25:12.325 --> 00:25:13.805
<00:25:12.325>of <00:25:12.591>a <00:25:12.857>mirror <00:25:13.124>and <00:25:13.390>remember <00:25:13.657>ourself

541
00:25:14.265 --> 00:25:15.885
<00:25:14.265>how <00:25:14.615>privileged <00:25:14.965>we <00:25:15.315>already <00:25:15.665>are?

542
00:25:17.085 --> 00:25:20.685
<00:25:17.085>I, <00:25:17.435>I <00:25:17.785>definitely <00:25:18.135>would <00:25:18.485>agree.

543
00:25:21.785 --> 00:25:26.155
<00:25:21.785>Um, <00:25:22.485>first, <00:25:23.185>secondly,

544
00:25:26.625 --> 00:25:28.635
<00:25:26.625>that <00:25:26.905>it's <00:25:27.185>not <00:25:27.465>a <00:25:27.745>given <00:25:28.025>mm-hmm.

545
00:25:28.905 --> 00:25:31.835
<00:25:28.905>That <00:25:29.105>is <00:25:29.305>no <00:25:29.504>automatism, <00:25:29.705>that <00:25:29.905>it <00:25:30.105>remains <00:25:30.305>Yeah.

546
00:25:31.975 --> 00:25:35.315
<00:25:31.975>Coming <00:25:32.254>back <00:25:32.534>to <00:25:32.814>HR <00:25:33.094>work. <00:25:33.375>Yeah.

547
00:25:35.855 --> 00:25:40.275
<00:25:35.855>Uh, <00:25:36.010>which <00:25:36.166>by <00:25:36.321>the <00:25:36.477>way <00:25:36.632>means <00:25:36.788>that <00:25:36.943>again, <00:25:37.099>it's <00:25:37.255>not

548
00:25:41.165 --> 00:25:45.875
<00:25:41.165>protecting <00:25:41.398>or <00:25:41.631>taking <00:25:41.865>out <00:25:42.098>people <00:25:42.331>or <00:25:42.565>Yeah.

549
00:25:46.205 --> 00:25:50.635
<00:25:46.205>Doing <00:25:46.345>this, <00:25:46.485>it's, <00:25:46.625>it's, <00:25:46.764>it's <00:25:46.905>both, <00:25:47.044>eh, <00:25:47.185>you <00:25:47.324>have <00:25:47.465>to <00:25:47.605>optimize

550
00:25:51.135 --> 00:25:53.395
<00:25:51.135>to <00:25:51.485>create <00:25:51.835>the <00:25:52.185>future, <00:25:52.535>eh.

551
00:25:53.395 --> 00:25:57.995
<00:25:53.395>Yeah. <00:25:53.550>It's, <00:25:53.706>again, <00:25:53.861>more <00:25:54.017>an <00:25:54.172>and <00:25:54.328>instead <00:25:54.483>of <00:25:54.639>an <00:25:54.795>or.

552
00:25:58.375 --> 00:26:01.395
<00:25:58.375>And <00:25:58.530>first <00:25:58.686>of <00:25:58.841>all, <00:25:58.997>yes, <00:25:59.152>we <00:25:59.308>have <00:25:59.463>to <00:25:59.619>be <00:25:59.775>aware

553
00:26:01.855 --> 00:26:03.675
<00:26:01.855>how <00:26:02.055>privileged <00:26:02.255>we <00:26:02.455>are, <00:26:02.655>at <00:26:02.855>least <00:26:03.055>the <00:26:03.255>most

554
00:26:03.675 --> 00:26:05.035
<00:26:03.675>of <00:26:04.083>us, <00:26:04.491>not <00:26:04.899>everyone.

555
00:26:05.055 --> 00:26:06.835
<00:26:05.055>We <00:26:05.255>also <00:26:05.455>have <00:26:05.655>in <00:26:05.855>our <00:26:06.055>society, <00:26:06.255>a <00:26:06.455>lot

556
00:26:06.835 --> 00:26:07.995
<00:26:06.835>of <00:26:07.009>people <00:26:07.183>with <00:26:07.357>a <00:26:07.531>lot <00:26:07.705>of <00:26:07.879>challenges.

557
00:26:07.995 --> 00:26:10.115
<00:26:07.995>Yeah. <00:26:08.195>Of <00:26:08.395>course. <00:26:08.594>I, <00:26:08.794>I <00:26:08.995>completely <00:26:09.195>take <00:26:09.395>this.

558
00:26:11.495 --> 00:26:14.555
<00:26:11.495>But <00:26:11.622>we <00:26:11.749>also <00:26:11.876>have <00:26:12.004>to <00:26:12.131>be <00:26:12.258>aware <00:26:12.385>that <00:26:12.513>it's <00:26:12.640>not <00:26:12.767>a <00:26:12.895>given.

559
00:26:14.575 --> 00:26:16.875
<00:26:14.575>And <00:26:14.750>when <00:26:14.925>I <00:26:15.100>give <00:26:15.275>him <00:26:15.450>speeches, <00:26:15.625>I <00:26:15.800>normally <00:26:15.975>start

560
00:26:16.875 --> 00:26:20.555
<00:26:16.875>with <00:26:17.155>the <00:26:17.435>sentence, <00:26:17.715>eh, <00:26:17.995>the <00:26:18.275>welfare

561
00:26:21.135 --> 00:26:25.715
<00:26:21.135>is <00:26:21.290>at <00:26:21.446>the <00:26:21.601>end <00:26:21.757>result <00:26:21.912>of <00:26:22.068>somehow <00:26:22.223>performance <00:26:22.379>and <00:26:22.535>competition.

562
00:26:25.735 --> 00:26:28.395
<00:26:25.735>And <00:26:25.875>by <00:26:26.014>the <00:26:26.155>way, <00:26:26.294>the <00:26:26.435>welfare <00:26:26.574>here <00:26:26.715>is <00:26:26.854>based <00:26:26.995>on <00:26:27.135>performance

563
00:26:28.395 --> 00:26:29.955
<00:26:28.395>and <00:26:28.628>competition <00:26:28.861>over <00:26:29.095>the <00:26:29.328>last <00:26:29.561>50 <00:26:29.795>years.

564
00:26:29.975 --> 00:26:32.675
<00:26:29.975>So, <00:26:30.149>so <00:26:30.324>we <00:26:30.500>should <00:26:30.675>not <00:26:30.850>be <00:26:31.024>angry <00:26:31.199>about <00:26:31.375>it

565
00:26:32.675 --> 00:26:34.435
<00:26:32.675>because <00:26:33.141>it <00:26:33.608>created <00:26:34.075>Yeah.

566
00:26:35.215 --> 00:26:36.515
<00:26:35.215>The <00:26:35.605>situation, <00:26:35.995>the <00:26:36.385>situation.

567
00:26:36.735 --> 00:26:38.275
<00:26:36.735>We <00:26:36.908>are <00:26:37.081>in <00:26:37.254>there, <00:26:37.428>so <00:26:37.601>we <00:26:37.774>should <00:26:37.947>be <00:26:38.121>happy.

568
00:26:38.455 --> 00:26:42.155
<00:26:38.455>But, <00:26:38.595>uh, <00:26:38.735>this <00:26:38.875>also <00:26:39.014>means <00:26:39.155>that <00:26:39.294>it <00:26:39.435>could <00:26:39.574>also <00:26:39.715>end <00:26:39.855>up,

569
00:26:43.145 --> 00:26:44.645
<00:26:43.145>uh, <00:26:44.495>differently.

570
00:26:44.745 --> 00:26:48.725
<00:26:44.745>So <00:26:44.900>it's <00:26:45.056>not <00:26:45.211>a, <00:26:45.367>given <00:26:45.522>the <00:26:45.678>fighting <00:26:45.833>spirit, <00:26:45.989>the, <00:26:46.145>these,

571
00:26:48.735 --> 00:26:52.005
<00:26:48.735>these <00:26:48.968>energy <00:26:49.201>level, <00:26:49.435>we <00:26:49.668>have <00:26:49.901>to <00:26:50.135>remain.

572
00:26:52.065 --> 00:26:55.205
<00:26:52.065>And <00:26:52.205>I'm <00:26:52.345>not <00:26:52.485>saying <00:26:52.625>that <00:26:52.765>we <00:26:52.905>are <00:26:53.045>lazy <00:26:53.185>now. <00:26:53.325>Absolutely <00:26:53.465>not.

573
00:26:55.225 --> 00:26:56.805
<00:26:55.225>No, <00:26:55.425>no, <00:26:55.625>no. <00:26:55.824>You <00:26:56.024>will <00:26:56.225>never <00:26:56.425>see <00:26:56.625>me

574
00:26:57.765 --> 00:26:59.045
<00:26:57.765>complaining <00:26:58.053>about <00:26:58.341>my <00:26:58.629>own <00:26:58.917>people.

575
00:26:59.105 --> 00:27:02.565
<00:26:59.105>Eh, <00:26:59.338>but <00:26:59.571>I, <00:26:59.805>I <00:27:00.038>have <00:27:00.271>to <00:27:00.505>admit

576
00:27:03.555 --> 00:27:05.005
<00:27:03.555>that <00:27:03.881>there <00:27:04.207>is <00:27:04.533>no <00:27:04.860>automatism,

577
00:27:05.435 --> 00:27:09.445
<00:27:05.435>because <00:27:05.668>at <00:27:05.901>the <00:27:06.135>end <00:27:06.368>it's <00:27:06.601>about <00:27:06.835>individual

578
00:27:09.505 --> 00:27:10.565
<00:27:09.505>or <00:27:09.982>joint <00:27:10.459>intelligence.

579
00:27:10.745 --> 00:27:14.285
<00:27:10.745>Mm. <00:27:10.978>It's <00:27:11.211>about <00:27:11.445>resources. <00:27:11.678>Yeah, <00:27:11.911>of <00:27:12.145>course.

580
00:27:14.625 --> 00:27:16.645
<00:27:14.625>And <00:27:14.975>about <00:27:15.325>motivation. <00:27:15.675>Yeah. <00:27:16.025>Mm-hmm.

581
00:27:17.025 --> 00:27:19.325
<00:27:17.025>And <00:27:17.200>when <00:27:17.375>you're <00:27:17.550>not <00:27:17.725>more <00:27:17.900>motivated <00:27:18.075>than <00:27:18.250>anyone <00:27:18.425>else,

582
00:27:19.425 --> 00:27:22.085
<00:27:19.425>if <00:27:19.658>you <00:27:19.891>don't <00:27:20.125>have <00:27:20.358>the <00:27:20.591>lucky <00:27:20.825>situation

583
00:27:22.085 --> 00:27:24.205
<00:27:22.085>that <00:27:22.260>you <00:27:22.435>have <00:27:22.610>natural <00:27:22.785>resources <00:27:22.960>like <00:27:23.135>in <00:27:23.310>the <00:27:23.485>past,

584
00:27:24.305 --> 00:27:25.645
<00:27:24.305>oil <00:27:24.707>goes, <00:27:25.109>whatever <00:27:25.511>mm-hmm.

585
00:27:25.865 --> 00:27:28.045
<00:27:25.865>Or <00:27:26.145>cheap <00:27:26.425>energy, <00:27:26.705>and <00:27:26.985>you're <00:27:27.265>not

586
00:27:28.595 --> 00:27:30.605
<00:27:28.595>more <00:27:28.828>in <00:27:29.061>intelligence <00:27:29.295>than <00:27:29.528>anyone <00:27:29.761>else, <00:27:29.995>huh.

587
00:27:30.625 --> 00:27:35.565
<00:27:30.625>Mm-hmm. <00:27:30.765>The, <00:27:30.905>then <00:27:31.045>there <00:27:31.185>is, <00:27:31.325>there <00:27:31.465>are <00:27:31.605>not <00:27:31.745>so <00:27:31.885>much <00:27:32.025>reasons

588
00:27:35.565 --> 00:27:39.325
<00:27:35.565>that <00:27:35.798>it <00:27:36.031>automatically <00:27:36.265>stays <00:27:36.498>like <00:27:36.731>it <00:27:36.965>is

589
00:27:39.705 --> 00:27:40.845
<00:27:39.705>and, <00:27:39.961>and <00:27:40.218>you <00:27:40.474>are <00:27:40.731>ahead.

590
00:27:40.865 --> 00:27:43.725
<00:27:40.865>So <00:27:41.005>therefore, <00:27:41.145>uh, <00:27:41.285>I <00:27:41.425>would <00:27:41.565>love <00:27:41.705>to <00:27:41.845>see <00:27:41.985>this <00:27:42.125>kind <00:27:42.265>of

591
00:27:44.725 --> 00:27:47.365
<00:27:44.725>fighting <00:27:45.074>spirit, <00:27:45.425>uh, <00:27:45.774>the <00:27:46.125>joy

592
00:27:47.425 --> 00:27:49.765
<00:27:47.425>of <00:27:48.125>also <00:27:48.825>performing.

593
00:27:51.045 --> 00:27:53.405
<00:27:51.045>I <00:27:51.200>have <00:27:51.356>a <00:27:51.511>lot <00:27:51.667>of <00:27:51.822>discussions <00:27:51.978>with, <00:27:52.133>with <00:27:52.289>my <00:27:52.445>team,

594
00:27:54.425 --> 00:27:56.685
<00:27:54.425>and <00:27:54.705>even <00:27:54.985>on, <00:27:55.264>on <00:27:55.544>my <00:27:55.825>side,

595
00:27:56.745 --> 00:28:00.085
<00:27:56.745>I'm <00:27:56.900>not <00:27:57.056>only <00:27:57.211>talking <00:27:57.367>about <00:27:57.522>others <00:27:57.678>is <00:27:57.833>do <00:27:57.989>I <00:27:58.145>have

596
00:28:00.085 --> 00:28:03.965
<00:28:00.085>to <00:28:00.260>do <00:28:00.435>something <00:28:00.610>or <00:28:00.785>am <00:28:00.960>I'm <00:28:01.135>allowed <00:28:01.310>to <00:28:01.485>do.

597
00:28:03.985 --> 00:28:05.085
<00:28:03.985>Mm-hmm. <00:28:04.975>Mm-hmm.

598
00:28:05.165 --> 00:28:08.045
<00:28:05.165>And <00:28:05.272>a <00:28:05.380>lot <00:28:05.488>of <00:28:05.595>the <00:28:05.703>topics <00:28:05.811>we <00:28:05.918>have <00:28:06.026>to <00:28:06.134>solve <00:28:06.241>as <00:28:06.349>hr, <00:28:06.457>huh? <00:28:06.565>Yeah.

599
00:28:08.865 --> 00:28:12.125
<00:28:08.865>You <00:28:09.005>can, <00:28:09.145>you <00:28:09.285>can <00:28:09.425>easily <00:28:09.565>debate. <00:28:09.705>You <00:28:09.845>have <00:28:09.985>to <00:28:10.125>implement <00:28:10.265>ai.

600
00:28:12.315 --> 00:28:14.725
<00:28:12.315>Yeah, <00:28:12.595>yeah. <00:28:12.875>Or <00:28:13.155>you <00:28:13.435>are <00:28:13.715>allowed

601
00:28:14.725 --> 00:28:16.805
<00:28:14.725>to <00:28:14.899>use <00:28:15.074>different <00:28:15.250>technologies <00:28:15.425>to <00:28:15.600>have <00:28:15.774>a <00:28:15.949>better <00:28:16.125>job.

602
00:28:18.185 --> 00:28:19.925
<00:28:18.185>Yes. <00:28:18.465>You <00:28:18.745>have <00:28:19.024>to, <00:28:19.304>to <00:28:19.585>to,

603
00:28:20.025 --> 00:28:22.765
<00:28:20.025>to <00:28:20.258>create <00:28:20.491>a <00:28:20.725>new <00:28:20.958>performance <00:28:21.191>management <00:28:21.425>system.

604
00:28:22.905 --> 00:28:24.885
<00:28:22.905>Mm-hmm. <00:28:23.254>You <00:28:23.605>are <00:28:23.955>allowed <00:28:24.305>to,

605
00:28:24.985 --> 00:28:28.085
<00:28:24.985>to <00:28:25.185>create <00:28:25.385>a <00:28:25.584>performance <00:28:25.784>management <00:28:25.985>system <00:28:26.185>that's <00:28:26.385>relevant

606
00:28:28.085 --> 00:28:29.205
<00:28:28.085>for <00:28:28.589>100,000 <00:28:29.092>people.

607
00:28:29.585 --> 00:28:32.285
<00:28:29.585>Eh, <00:28:29.725>and, <00:28:29.865>and <00:28:30.005>for <00:28:30.145>sure <00:28:30.285>when <00:28:30.425>the <00:28:30.565>workload <00:28:30.705>is <00:28:30.845>pretty <00:28:30.985>high

608
00:28:32.345 --> 00:28:34.445
<00:28:32.345>and <00:28:32.520>you <00:28:32.695>don't <00:28:32.870>know <00:28:33.045>and <00:28:33.220>you're <00:28:33.395>higher, <00:28:33.570>then <00:28:33.745>it,

609
00:28:34.585 --> 00:28:35.605
<00:28:34.585>it <00:28:34.891>feels <00:28:35.197>quite <00:28:35.503>often.

610
00:28:35.625 --> 00:28:36.645
<00:28:35.625>You <00:28:35.931>have <00:28:36.237>to <00:28:36.543>Yeah.

611
00:28:37.385 --> 00:28:39.365
<00:28:37.385>But <00:28:37.735>as <00:28:38.085>you <00:28:38.435>said <00:28:38.785>before,

612
00:28:41.385 --> 00:28:45.675
<00:28:41.385>and <00:28:41.560>it <00:28:41.735>starts <00:28:41.910>with <00:28:42.085>me <00:28:42.260>most <00:28:42.435>of <00:28:42.610>the <00:28:42.785>time,

613
00:28:45.775 --> 00:28:48.715
<00:28:45.775>is <00:28:45.915>we <00:28:46.055>are <00:28:46.195>allowed <00:28:46.335>to <00:28:46.475>participate <00:28:46.615>in <00:28:46.755>these <00:28:46.895>kind <00:28:47.035>of <00:28:47.175>questions

614
00:28:48.855 --> 00:28:52.235
<00:28:48.855>and, <00:28:49.055>uh, <00:28:49.255>we <00:28:49.455>are <00:28:49.655>also <00:28:49.855>of <00:28:50.055>the <00:28:50.255>future.

615
00:28:52.465 --> 00:28:55.475
<00:28:52.465>Yeah, <00:28:52.665>of <00:28:52.865>course. <00:28:53.064>And <00:28:53.264>not <00:28:53.465>the <00:28:53.665>victim. <00:28:53.865>Yeah.

616
00:28:56.135 --> 00:28:57.475
<00:28:56.135>Not <00:28:56.436>the <00:28:56.738>follow. <00:28:57.039>Yeah. <00:28:57.341>Yeah.

617
00:28:57.475 --> 00:28:58.835
<00:28:57.475>And <00:28:57.678>I <00:28:57.883>mean <00:28:58.087>that, <00:28:58.291>I <00:28:58.495>think <00:28:58.699>that,

618
00:28:58.835 --> 00:29:01.515
<00:28:58.835>what <00:28:58.962>would <00:28:59.089>be <00:28:59.216>my <00:28:59.344>next <00:28:59.471>question, <00:28:59.598>I <00:28:59.725>mean, <00:28:59.853>you <00:28:59.980>are, <00:29:00.107>you <00:29:00.235>are

619
00:29:01.985 --> 00:29:05.195
<00:29:01.985>with <00:29:02.185>Staler <00:29:02.385>since <00:29:02.584>1993, <00:29:02.784>if <00:29:02.985>I <00:29:03.185>remember <00:29:03.385>right.

620
00:29:05.655 --> 00:29:07.435
<00:29:05.655>Uh, <00:29:06.121>what <00:29:06.588>has <00:29:07.055>changed

621
00:29:07.455 --> 00:29:10.475
<00:29:07.455>or <00:29:07.610>how <00:29:07.766>has <00:29:07.921>the <00:29:08.077>HR <00:29:08.232>role <00:29:08.388>changed <00:29:08.543>in, <00:29:08.699>in, <00:29:08.855>in,

622
00:29:10.495 --> 00:29:12.195
<00:29:10.495>in <00:29:10.844>this, <00:29:11.195>in <00:29:11.544>this <00:29:11.895>decades?

623
00:29:12.695 --> 00:29:15.035
<00:29:12.695>And <00:29:12.928>what <00:29:13.161>do <00:29:13.395>you <00:29:13.628>see <00:29:13.861>comes <00:29:14.095>next?

624
00:29:15.195 --> 00:29:18.475
<00:29:15.195>I <00:29:15.322>mean, <00:29:15.449>you <00:29:15.576>mentioned <00:29:15.704>that <00:29:15.831>I, <00:29:15.958>I, <00:29:16.085>I <00:29:16.213>see <00:29:16.340>that <00:29:16.467>the <00:29:16.595>person,

625
00:29:18.535 --> 00:29:20.595
<00:29:18.535>my <00:29:18.768>personal <00:29:19.001>take <00:29:19.235>is <00:29:19.468>that <00:29:19.701>the <00:29:19.935>importance

626
00:29:20.595 --> 00:29:23.675
<00:29:20.595>of <00:29:20.875>HR <00:29:21.155>is <00:29:21.435>extremely, <00:29:21.715>uh, <00:29:21.995>racing.

627
00:29:24.495 --> 00:29:27.715
<00:29:24.495>So, <00:29:24.635>because <00:29:24.774>I <00:29:24.915>think, <00:29:25.054>uh, <00:29:25.195>we <00:29:25.334>are <00:29:25.475>bringing <00:29:25.614>in <00:29:25.754>the <00:29:25.895>people,

628
00:29:27.895 --> 00:29:29.795
<00:29:27.895>so <00:29:28.128>we <00:29:28.361>are <00:29:28.595>bringing <00:29:28.828>in <00:29:29.061>the <00:29:29.295>mindsets.

629
00:29:29.975 --> 00:29:32.715
<00:29:29.975>We <00:29:30.149>are <00:29:30.324>bringing <00:29:30.500>in <00:29:30.675>the <00:29:30.850>culture <00:29:31.024>into <00:29:31.199>the <00:29:31.375>organization.

630
00:29:32.975 --> 00:29:36.395
<00:29:32.975>We <00:29:33.130>need <00:29:33.286>to <00:29:33.441>keep <00:29:33.597>the <00:29:33.752>people <00:29:33.908>motivated <00:29:34.063>in <00:29:34.219>a <00:29:34.375>way

631
00:29:36.395 --> 00:29:39.395
<00:29:36.395>that <00:29:36.595>they're <00:29:36.795>willing <00:29:36.995>to <00:29:37.195>learn <00:29:37.395>their <00:29:37.595>entire <00:29:37.795>lives.

632
00:29:39.395 --> 00:29:40.995
<00:29:39.395>Because <00:29:39.675>I <00:29:39.955>think <00:29:40.235>that <00:29:40.514>stays <00:29:40.795>important

633
00:29:41.190 --> 00:29:43.045
<00:29:41.190>and <00:29:41.470>probably <00:29:41.750>was <00:29:42.030>always <00:29:42.310>was <00:29:42.590>important.

634
00:29:43.985 --> 00:29:47.485
<00:29:43.985>So <00:29:44.112>how <00:29:44.239>has <00:29:44.366>it <00:29:44.494>changed, <00:29:44.621>or <00:29:44.748>what <00:29:44.875>are <00:29:45.003>the <00:29:45.130>major <00:29:45.257>changes <00:29:45.385>that

635
00:29:47.485 --> 00:29:48.805
<00:29:47.485>You <00:29:48.673>experienced?

636
00:29:48.805 --> 00:29:50.125
<00:29:48.805>Uh, <00:29:48.974>would <00:29:49.144>be <00:29:49.314>a <00:29:49.483>good <00:29:49.653>one. <00:29:49.823>And, <00:29:49.993>uh,

637
00:29:50.605 --> 00:29:52.165
<00:29:50.605>probably <00:29:50.780>also <00:29:50.955>the <00:29:51.130>answer <00:29:51.305>could <00:29:51.480>be <00:29:51.655>a <00:29:51.830>long <00:29:52.005>one.

638
00:29:52.185 --> 00:29:53.645
<00:29:52.185>So <00:29:52.372>I <00:29:52.560>try <00:29:52.748>to <00:29:52.935>keep <00:29:53.123>it <00:29:53.311>rather <00:29:53.499>short.

639
00:29:54.015 --> 00:29:57.205
<00:29:54.015>First <00:29:54.155>of <00:29:54.295>all, <00:29:54.435>uh, <00:29:54.575>again, <00:29:54.715>not <00:29:54.855>on <00:29:54.995>a <00:29:55.135>no <00:29:55.275>brainer <00:29:55.415>level,

640
00:29:58.775 --> 00:30:02.445
<00:29:58.775>early <00:29:58.975>nineties, <00:29:59.175>uh, <00:29:59.375>you <00:29:59.575>applied <00:29:59.775>with <00:29:59.975>paper, <00:30:00.175>eh?

641
00:30:02.445 --> 00:30:05.405
<00:30:02.445>Mm-hmm. <00:30:02.645>When <00:30:02.845>you, <00:30:03.044>eh, <00:30:03.245>where <00:30:03.445>I <00:30:03.645>started, <00:30:03.845>eh,

642
00:30:05.505 --> 00:30:07.925
<00:30:05.505>and <00:30:05.660>as, <00:30:05.816>as <00:30:05.971>a <00:30:06.127>newcomer <00:30:06.282>in <00:30:06.438>the <00:30:06.593>early <00:30:06.749>nineties, <00:30:06.905>you,

643
00:30:07.925 --> 00:30:10.405
<00:30:07.925>you <00:30:08.080>went <00:30:08.236>into <00:30:08.391>an <00:30:08.547>HR <00:30:08.702>office, <00:30:08.858>there <00:30:09.013>was <00:30:09.169>a <00:30:09.325>desk,

644
00:30:10.425 --> 00:30:11.605
<00:30:10.425>and <00:30:10.601>then <00:30:10.779>you <00:30:10.956>had <00:30:11.133>to <00:30:11.310>wait, <00:30:11.487>eh?

645
00:30:11.605 --> 00:30:14.485
<00:30:11.605>Yeah. <00:30:11.732>And <00:30:11.859>by <00:30:11.986>the <00:30:12.114>way, <00:30:12.241>the <00:30:12.368>HR <00:30:12.495>person <00:30:12.623>was <00:30:12.750>standing <00:30:12.877>here <00:30:13.005>and,

646
00:30:14.825 --> 00:30:16.085
<00:30:14.825>and <00:30:15.014>you <00:30:15.203>had <00:30:15.392>to <00:30:15.581>wait <00:30:15.770>here, <00:30:15.959>eh?

647
00:30:16.145 --> 00:30:19.205
<00:30:16.145>Yes. <00:30:16.320>Then <00:30:16.495>they <00:30:16.670>told <00:30:16.845>you <00:30:17.020>what, <00:30:17.195>what <00:30:17.370>to <00:30:17.545>do,

648
00:30:19.265 --> 00:30:20.885
<00:30:19.265>and <00:30:19.731>very <00:30:20.198>formal <00:30:20.665>processes.

649
00:30:21.075 --> 00:30:24.365
<00:30:21.075>Very, <00:30:21.250>very, <00:30:21.425>uh, <00:30:21.600>and <00:30:21.775>everybody <00:30:21.950>was, <00:30:22.125>uh, <00:30:22.300>standing <00:30:22.475>there

650
00:30:24.385 --> 00:30:27.725
<00:30:24.385>and, <00:30:24.618>uh, <00:30:24.851>saying, <00:30:25.085>thank <00:30:25.318>you, <00:30:25.551>change <00:30:25.785>completely.

651
00:30:28.425 --> 00:30:29.605
<00:30:28.425>And <00:30:28.779>so <00:30:29.133>technology <00:30:29.487>wise,

652
00:30:29.665 --> 00:30:31.845
<00:30:29.665>you <00:30:29.840>can't <00:30:30.014>compare <00:30:30.190>the <00:30:30.365>work <00:30:30.540>how <00:30:30.715>we <00:30:30.889>are <00:30:31.065>doing.

653
00:30:31.945 --> 00:30:36.525
<00:30:31.945>Uh, <00:30:32.100>it's, <00:30:32.256>um, <00:30:32.411>this <00:30:32.567>is <00:30:32.722>one <00:30:32.878>aspect <00:30:33.033>which <00:30:33.189>is <00:30:33.345>not,

654
00:30:36.675 --> 00:30:37.765
<00:30:36.675>this <00:30:36.871>is <00:30:37.067>quite <00:30:37.263>the <00:30:37.459>way <00:30:37.656>true.

655
00:30:37.765 --> 00:30:40.725
<00:30:37.765>Not <00:30:37.892>only <00:30:38.019>for <00:30:38.146>hr, <00:30:38.274>you <00:30:38.401>can <00:30:38.528>do <00:30:38.655>it <00:30:38.783>also <00:30:38.910>in <00:30:39.037>engineering. <00:30:39.165>Yeah.

656
00:30:41.505 --> 00:30:43.925
<00:30:41.505>In <00:30:41.738>production. <00:30:41.971>The <00:30:42.205>second <00:30:42.438>thing <00:30:42.671>is, <00:30:42.905>um,

657
00:30:44.795 --> 00:30:46.565
<00:30:44.795>already <00:30:44.995>at <00:30:45.195>this <00:30:45.395>point <00:30:45.595>of <00:30:45.795>time, <00:30:45.995>the <00:30:46.195>portion

658
00:30:46.585 --> 00:30:48.285
<00:30:46.585>of <00:30:46.865>admin <00:30:47.145>stuff <00:30:47.425>was <00:30:47.705>pretty <00:30:47.985>high.

659
00:30:48.385 --> 00:30:50.605
<00:30:48.385>Mm-hmm. <00:30:48.851>But, <00:30:49.318>uh, <00:30:49.785>targets,

660
00:30:50.825 --> 00:30:55.045
<00:30:50.825>and <00:30:50.965>you <00:30:51.105>will <00:30:51.245>see <00:30:51.385>all <00:30:51.525>HR <00:30:51.665>organizations <00:30:51.805>today <00:30:51.945>much <00:30:52.085>leaner <00:30:52.225>than

661
00:30:55.045 --> 00:30:57.325
<00:30:55.045>25, <00:30:55.395>uh, <00:30:55.745>30 <00:30:56.095>years <00:30:56.445>ago.

662
00:30:57.325 --> 00:31:01.165
<00:30:57.325>Mm-hmm. <00:30:57.452>Uh, <00:30:57.579>uh, <00:30:57.706>which <00:30:57.834>means <00:30:57.961>that <00:30:58.088>you <00:30:58.215>have <00:30:58.343>to <00:30:58.470>think <00:30:58.597>much <00:30:58.725>more

663
00:31:01.165 --> 00:31:03.125
<00:31:01.165>how <00:31:01.365>to <00:31:01.565>optimize <00:31:01.764>your <00:31:01.965>processes <00:31:02.165>than <00:31:02.365>it <00:31:02.565>was

664
00:31:03.125 --> 00:31:04.645
<00:31:03.125>necessary <00:31:03.398>at <00:31:03.672>this <00:31:03.945>point <00:31:04.219>of <00:31:04.493>times.

665
00:31:04.865 --> 00:31:07.805
<00:31:04.865>Mm-hmm. <00:31:05.098>With <00:31:05.331>technology, <00:31:05.565>also <00:31:05.798>with <00:31:06.031>our <00:31:06.265>technology.

666
00:31:08.555 --> 00:31:12.405
<00:31:08.555>Then <00:31:08.710>I <00:31:08.866>give <00:31:09.021>you <00:31:09.177>another <00:31:09.332>example. <00:31:09.488>I, <00:31:09.643>Daimler <00:31:09.799>proud <00:31:09.955>company.

667
00:31:12.625 --> 00:31:15.885
<00:31:12.625>Mm-hmm. <00:31:12.905>Um, <00:31:13.185>war <00:31:13.465>for <00:31:13.745>Talents, <00:31:14.025>uh,

668
00:31:17.705 --> 00:31:18.925
<00:31:17.705>in <00:31:18.071>the <00:31:18.437>nineties, <00:31:18.803>uh,

669
00:31:19.555 --> 00:31:21.725
<00:31:19.555>when <00:31:19.788>Daimler <00:31:20.021>posted <00:31:20.255>something <00:31:20.488>at <00:31:20.721>this <00:31:20.955>point

670
00:31:21.725 --> 00:31:23.485
<00:31:21.725>of <00:31:22.074>time <00:31:22.425>in <00:31:22.774>newspapers. <00:31:23.125>Mm.

671
00:31:23.835 --> 00:31:28.445
<00:31:23.835>Yeah. <00:31:24.035>Uh, <00:31:24.235>I <00:31:24.435>was <00:31:24.635>from <00:31:24.835>95 <00:31:25.035>onwards <00:31:25.235>part

672
00:31:28.445 --> 00:31:30.325
<00:31:28.445>of <00:31:28.678>a <00:31:28.911>plant, <00:31:29.145>which <00:31:29.378>was <00:31:29.611>a <00:31:29.845>greenfield.

673
00:31:30.325 --> 00:31:31.405
<00:31:30.325>Mm-hmm. <00:31:31.297>Mm-hmm.

674
00:31:31.775 --> 00:31:35.725
<00:31:31.775>There, <00:31:31.915>well, <00:31:32.055>we, <00:31:32.195>we <00:31:32.335>had <00:31:32.475>to <00:31:32.615>ramp <00:31:32.755>up <00:31:32.895>our <00:31:33.035>people. <00:31:33.175>Yeah.

675
00:31:36.305 --> 00:31:39.685
<00:31:36.305>We <00:31:36.538>had <00:31:36.771>25,000 <00:31:37.005>applications <00:31:37.238>within <00:31:37.471>four <00:31:37.705>weeks.

676
00:31:40.905 --> 00:31:43.085
<00:31:40.905>So <00:31:41.080>the <00:31:41.254>HR <00:31:41.430>function <00:31:41.605>at <00:31:41.780>this <00:31:41.955>point <00:31:42.129>of <00:31:42.305>time,

677
00:31:43.665 --> 00:31:46.245
<00:31:43.665>it <00:31:43.865>was <00:31:44.065>the <00:31:44.264>easiest, <00:31:44.465>the <00:31:44.665>recruiting <00:31:44.865>team <00:31:45.065>Yeah.

678
00:31:46.505 --> 00:31:48.005
<00:31:46.505>Was <00:31:46.730>the <00:31:46.955>easiest <00:31:47.180>job <00:31:47.405>in <00:31:47.630>the <00:31:47.855>world,

679
00:31:48.105 --> 00:31:49.165
<00:31:48.105>at <00:31:48.295>least <00:31:48.486>in <00:31:48.677>the <00:31:48.868>Daimler <00:31:49.059>world,

680
00:31:50.195 --> 00:31:52.885
<00:31:50.195>because <00:31:50.395>basically <00:31:50.595>when <00:31:50.794>you, <00:31:50.995>when <00:31:51.195>you <00:31:51.395>posted <00:31:51.595>something,

681
00:31:52.885 --> 00:31:54.405
<00:31:52.885>you <00:31:53.158>had <00:31:53.432>so <00:31:53.705>much <00:31:53.979>applications <00:31:54.253>Yeah.

682
00:31:54.835 --> 00:31:58.805
<00:31:54.835>That, <00:31:55.010>um, <00:31:55.185>you <00:31:55.360>normally <00:31:55.535>had <00:31:55.710>a <00:31:55.885>situation <00:31:56.060>that <00:31:56.235>you,

683
00:31:58.905 --> 00:32:00.965
<00:31:58.905>it <00:31:59.105>was <00:31:59.305>basically <00:31:59.504>impossible <00:31:59.705>to <00:31:59.905>make <00:32:00.105>a <00:32:00.305>mistake.

684
00:32:00.965 --> 00:32:03.765
<00:32:00.965>Yeah. <00:32:01.105>Because <00:32:01.245>the <00:32:01.385>best <00:32:01.524>20 <00:32:01.665>people <00:32:01.804>were <00:32:01.945>all <00:32:02.084>great <00:32:02.225>there. <00:32:02.365>Yeah.

685
00:32:04.185 --> 00:32:07.085
<00:32:04.185>Uh, <00:32:04.360>we <00:32:04.534>are <00:32:04.710>sitting <00:32:04.885>here <00:32:05.060>in <00:32:05.235>the <00:32:05.409>truck. <00:32:05.585>Yeah.

686
00:32:07.425 --> 00:32:08.725
<00:32:07.425>And, <00:32:07.717>uh, <00:32:08.010>I <00:32:08.302>told <00:32:08.594>you

687
00:32:08.965 --> 00:32:11.645
<00:32:08.965>before <00:32:09.139>that <00:32:09.314>I <00:32:09.490>purely <00:32:09.665>did <00:32:09.840>it <00:32:10.014>for <00:32:10.189>the <00:32:10.365>podcast.

688
00:32:11.745 --> 00:32:14.365
<00:32:11.745>Mm-hmm. <00:32:11.978>Which <00:32:12.211>is <00:32:12.445>not <00:32:12.678>completely <00:32:12.911>true. <00:32:13.145>Yeah.

689
00:32:14.435 --> 00:32:18.405
<00:32:14.435>Because <00:32:14.610>tomorrow <00:32:14.784>where <00:32:14.960>we, <00:32:15.135>we <00:32:15.310>have <00:32:15.485>our <00:32:15.659>recruiting <00:32:15.835>day

690
00:32:18.425 --> 00:32:20.045
<00:32:18.425>for <00:32:18.774>the <00:32:19.125>trainee <00:32:19.475>processes <00:32:19.825>mm-hmm.

691
00:32:20.345 --> 00:32:22.965
<00:32:20.345>And <00:32:20.520>exactly. <00:32:20.695>Here <00:32:20.870>we <00:32:21.045>will <00:32:21.220>do <00:32:21.395>the <00:32:21.570>interviews. <00:32:21.745>Yeah.

692
00:32:22.965 --> 00:32:24.845
<00:32:22.965>Very <00:32:23.165>cool. <00:32:23.365>And <00:32:23.564>we <00:32:23.764>have <00:32:23.965>prepared <00:32:24.165>some <00:32:24.365>stuff

693
00:32:24.845 --> 00:32:26.805
<00:32:24.845>because <00:32:25.195>for <00:32:25.545>the <00:32:25.895>best <00:32:26.245>candidates,

694
00:32:28.035 --> 00:32:29.685
<00:32:28.035>they <00:32:28.210>have <00:32:28.385>the <00:32:28.560>choice <00:32:28.735>where <00:32:28.910>they <00:32:29.085>want <00:32:29.260>to <00:32:29.435>start.

695
00:32:29.685 --> 00:32:33.125
<00:32:29.685>Mm-hmm. <00:32:29.860>Uh, <00:32:30.034>so <00:32:30.210>for <00:32:30.385>sure <00:32:30.560>they <00:32:30.735>are <00:32:30.909>applying. <00:32:31.085>Mm-hmm.

696
00:32:33.205 --> 00:32:35.325
<00:32:33.205>And <00:32:33.360>we <00:32:33.516>still <00:32:33.671>get <00:32:33.827>a <00:32:33.982>lot <00:32:34.138>of <00:32:34.293>good <00:32:34.449>applications. <00:32:34.605>Mm-hmm.

697
00:32:35.465 --> 00:32:37.525
<00:32:35.465>But <00:32:35.639>they're, <00:32:35.814>we <00:32:35.990>are <00:32:36.165>in <00:32:36.340>a <00:32:36.514>situation <00:32:36.689>that <00:32:36.865>basically

698
00:32:38.345 --> 00:32:40.125
<00:32:38.345>we <00:32:38.695>convinced <00:32:39.045>them <00:32:39.395>tomorrow <00:32:39.745>Yeah.

699
00:32:40.425 --> 00:32:42.765
<00:32:40.425>To <00:32:40.565>join <00:32:40.705>us. <00:32:40.845>Yeah. <00:32:40.985>Now <00:32:41.125>I'm <00:32:41.264>talking <00:32:41.405>about <00:32:41.544>the <00:32:41.685>top <00:32:41.825>end.

700
00:32:42.835 --> 00:32:46.045
<00:32:42.835>Yeah, <00:32:43.068>yeah. <00:32:43.301>Yeah. <00:32:43.535>Uh, <00:32:43.768>has <00:32:44.001>changed <00:32:44.235>completely.

701
00:32:46.145 --> 00:32:49.565
<00:32:46.145>And <00:32:46.300>then <00:32:46.456>as <00:32:46.611>I <00:32:46.767>said, <00:32:46.922>especially <00:32:47.078>when <00:32:47.233>it <00:32:47.389>comes <00:32:47.545>to

702
00:32:50.855 --> 00:32:54.725
<00:32:50.855>tough <00:32:51.088>targets <00:32:51.321>to, <00:32:51.555>to <00:32:51.788>competition, <00:32:52.021>the <00:32:52.255>role

703
00:32:54.725 --> 00:32:59.445
<00:32:54.725>of <00:32:54.852>HR <00:32:54.979>in <00:32:55.106>executing <00:32:55.234>these <00:32:55.361>kind <00:32:55.488>of <00:32:55.615>topics <00:32:55.743>is <00:32:55.870>much <00:32:55.997>harder <00:32:56.125>today

704
00:32:59.995 --> 00:33:01.685
<00:32:59.995>than <00:33:00.195>it <00:33:00.395>was <00:33:00.594>20 <00:33:00.794>or <00:33:00.995>30 <00:33:01.195>years <00:33:01.395>ago.

705
00:33:01.745 --> 00:33:03.525
<00:33:01.745>So <00:33:02.094>just <00:33:02.445>some <00:33:02.794>aspects <00:33:03.145>mm-hmm.

706
00:33:04.435 --> 00:33:08.245
<00:33:04.435>Some <00:33:04.668>basic <00:33:04.901>principles <00:33:05.135>develop <00:33:05.368>people <00:33:05.601>to <00:33:05.835>support,

707
00:33:08.245 --> 00:33:10.205
<00:33:08.245>to <00:33:08.385>bring <00:33:08.524>the <00:33:08.665>right <00:33:08.804>people <00:33:08.945>at <00:33:09.084>the <00:33:09.225>right <00:33:09.364>point <00:33:09.504>of <00:33:09.645>time.

708
00:33:11.635 --> 00:33:13.405
<00:33:11.635>This <00:33:11.915>is <00:33:12.195>something <00:33:12.475>that <00:33:12.754>remains <00:33:13.035>mm-hmm.

709
00:33:13.545 --> 00:33:17.845
<00:33:13.545>What's <00:33:13.700>more <00:33:13.856>important <00:33:14.011>today <00:33:14.167>than <00:33:14.322>it <00:33:14.478>was <00:33:14.633>20 <00:33:14.789>years <00:33:14.945>ago.

710
00:33:18.665 --> 00:33:20.005
<00:33:18.665>And <00:33:19.067>again, <00:33:19.469>no <00:33:19.871>buzzwords,

711
00:33:20.065 --> 00:33:21.925
<00:33:20.065>but <00:33:20.765>we <00:33:21.465>talked

712
00:33:22.105 --> 00:33:24.805
<00:33:22.105>so <00:33:22.280>much <00:33:22.455>about <00:33:22.630>technological <00:33:22.805>changes, <00:33:22.980>AI <00:33:23.155>and <00:33:23.330>other <00:33:23.505>stuff.

713
00:33:24.805 --> 00:33:28.565
<00:33:24.805>Mm-hmm. <00:33:25.085>Uh, <00:33:25.365>the <00:33:25.645>qualification <00:33:25.925>we <00:33:26.205>had

714
00:33:29.225 --> 00:33:33.125
<00:33:29.225>in <00:33:29.425>the <00:33:29.625>nineties <00:33:29.824>remain <00:33:30.024>much <00:33:30.225>longer <00:33:30.425>wallet <00:33:30.625>mm-hmm.

715
00:33:33.955 --> 00:33:35.885
<00:33:33.955>Than <00:33:34.421>it <00:33:34.888>is <00:33:35.355>today.

716
00:33:36.145 --> 00:33:39.245
<00:33:36.145>So <00:33:36.378>we <00:33:36.611>call <00:33:36.845>it <00:33:37.078>strategic <00:33:37.311>resource <00:33:37.545>management.

717
00:33:39.265 --> 00:33:42.325
<00:33:39.265>Really <00:33:39.465>think <00:33:39.665>about <00:33:39.865>what <00:33:40.065>kind <00:33:40.265>of <00:33:40.465>qualification <00:33:40.665>skills

718
00:33:42.985 --> 00:33:45.045
<00:33:42.985>do <00:33:43.159>we <00:33:43.334>need <00:33:43.510>of <00:33:43.685>people <00:33:43.860>do <00:33:44.034>we <00:33:44.209>need <00:33:44.385>tomorrow?

719
00:33:45.065 --> 00:33:48.845
<00:33:45.065>And <00:33:45.192>what <00:33:45.319>do <00:33:45.446>we <00:33:45.574>have <00:33:45.701>today? <00:33:45.828>Yeah. <00:33:45.955>This <00:33:46.083>was <00:33:46.210>in <00:33:46.337>the <00:33:46.465>nineties.

720
00:33:48.945 --> 00:33:50.285
<00:33:48.945>Yes. <00:33:49.186>We <00:33:49.427>saw <00:33:49.668>it <00:33:49.909>about <00:33:50.151>it.

721
00:33:50.505 --> 00:33:52.605
<00:33:50.505>And <00:33:50.705>there <00:33:50.905>bit <00:33:51.105>action <00:33:51.305>learning <00:33:51.505>all <00:33:51.705>good. <00:33:51.905>Yeah.

722
00:33:52.825 --> 00:33:54.685
<00:33:52.825>But <00:33:53.175>really <00:33:53.525>thinking <00:33:53.875>about, <00:33:54.225>well,

723
00:33:54.755 --> 00:33:56.525
<00:33:54.755>what <00:33:54.955>is <00:33:55.155>needed <00:33:55.355>in <00:33:55.555>10 <00:33:55.755>years <00:33:55.955>from <00:33:56.155>now?

724
00:33:56.555 --> 00:33:59.005
<00:33:56.555>What <00:33:56.710>do <00:33:56.866>we <00:33:57.021>have, <00:33:57.177>what <00:33:57.332>do <00:33:57.488>we <00:33:57.643>have <00:33:57.799>to <00:33:57.955>hire,

725
00:33:59.035 --> 00:34:00.125
<00:33:59.035>what <00:33:59.231>do <00:33:59.427>we <00:33:59.623>have <00:33:59.819>to <00:34:00.016>train?

726
00:34:00.915 --> 00:34:03.445
<00:34:00.915>This <00:34:01.070>is <00:34:01.226>nowadays <00:34:01.381>much <00:34:01.537>more <00:34:01.692>important <00:34:01.848>than <00:34:02.003>it <00:34:02.159>was <00:34:02.315>before.

727
00:34:03.445 --> 00:34:05.765
<00:34:03.445>Mm-hmm. <00:34:03.725>Especially <00:34:04.004>with <00:34:04.284>a <00:34:04.564>generation <00:34:04.845>mm-hmm.

728
00:34:06.315 --> 00:34:08.725
<00:34:06.315>That <00:34:06.548>is <00:34:06.781>looking <00:34:07.015>also <00:34:07.248>for <00:34:07.481>purpose. <00:34:07.715>Yeah.

729
00:34:08.745 --> 00:34:10.005
<00:34:08.745>And <00:34:09.028>not <00:34:09.312>only <00:34:09.595>money. <00:34:09.879>Yeah.

730
00:34:10.485 --> 00:34:13.005
<00:34:10.485>I, <00:34:10.625>I <00:34:10.765>was <00:34:10.905>using <00:34:11.045>a <00:34:11.185>term, <00:34:11.325>uh, <00:34:11.465>at <00:34:11.605>the <00:34:11.745>speech <00:34:11.885>in,

731
00:34:13.005 --> 00:34:15.165
<00:34:13.005>in <00:34:13.145>Amsterdam <00:34:13.285>a <00:34:13.425>couple <00:34:13.565>of <00:34:13.705>weeks <00:34:13.845>ago <00:34:13.985>where <00:34:14.125>I <00:34:14.265>said, <00:34:14.405>okay,

732
00:34:15.485 --> 00:34:17.725
<00:34:15.485>probably <00:34:15.951>talent <00:34:16.418>acquisition <00:34:16.885>needs

733
00:34:17.745 --> 00:34:19.965
<00:34:17.745>to <00:34:18.025>be <00:34:18.304>renamed <00:34:18.585>into <00:34:18.864>talent <00:34:19.145>architects.

734
00:34:20.505 --> 00:34:21.525
<00:34:20.505>How <00:34:20.688>do <00:34:20.872>you <00:34:21.055>see <00:34:21.239>that <00:34:21.423>one?

735
00:34:21.585 --> 00:34:23.245
<00:34:21.585>So <00:34:21.935>as <00:34:22.284>you <00:34:22.635>mentioned, <00:34:22.985>we,

736
00:34:23.245 --> 00:34:25.965
<00:34:23.245>we <00:34:23.400>have <00:34:23.556>the <00:34:23.711>skill <00:34:23.867>sets <00:34:24.022>where <00:34:24.178>I <00:34:24.333>think <00:34:24.489>they're <00:34:24.645>changing.

737
00:34:26.065 --> 00:34:28.005
<00:34:26.065>So <00:34:26.264>we <00:34:26.465>need <00:34:26.665>to <00:34:26.865>really <00:34:27.065>think <00:34:27.264>about <00:34:27.465>skills.

738
00:34:28.105 --> 00:34:29.965
<00:34:28.105>We <00:34:28.304>need <00:34:28.505>to <00:34:28.705>really <00:34:28.905>think <00:34:29.105>about <00:34:29.304>matching <00:34:29.505>skills

739
00:34:30.025 --> 00:34:31.365
<00:34:30.025>to <00:34:30.427>the <00:34:30.828>right <00:34:31.230>positions.

740
00:34:31.795 --> 00:34:34.045
<00:34:31.795>It's, <00:34:32.028>it's, <00:34:32.261>it's <00:34:32.495>really <00:34:32.728>building <00:34:32.961>kind <00:34:33.195>of

741
00:34:34.565 --> 00:34:35.845
<00:34:34.565>structures <00:34:35.141>like <00:34:35.716>architects.

742
00:34:36.145 --> 00:34:38.605
<00:34:36.145>And <00:34:36.320>I <00:34:36.495>said, <00:34:36.670>I, <00:34:36.844>I <00:34:37.020>never <00:34:37.195>liked <00:34:37.370>term <00:34:37.545>acquisition

743
00:34:38.605 --> 00:34:40.565
<00:34:38.605>because <00:34:38.804>acquisition <00:34:39.005>for <00:34:39.205>me <00:34:39.405>always <00:34:39.605>had <00:34:39.804>this <00:34:40.005>kind

744
00:34:40.565 --> 00:34:42.005
<00:34:40.565>of <00:34:40.997>pur <00:34:41.429>purchasing <00:34:41.860>mindset.

745
00:34:42.825 --> 00:34:46.365
<00:34:42.824>So <00:34:42.964>I <00:34:43.105>replaced <00:34:43.245>the <00:34:43.384>a <00:34:43.524>by <00:34:43.665>from, <00:34:43.804>from <00:34:43.944>acquisition <00:34:44.085>to <00:34:44.225>architect.

746
00:34:46.435 --> 00:34:48.405
<00:34:46.435>Yeah. <00:34:46.590>It's, <00:34:46.746>it's <00:34:46.901>a <00:34:47.057>good <00:34:47.212>one. <00:34:47.368>To <00:34:47.523>be <00:34:47.679>very <00:34:47.835>honest.

747
00:34:48.475 --> 00:34:50.205
<00:34:48.475>I've <00:34:48.708>never <00:34:48.941>thought <00:34:49.174>about <00:34:49.408>it <00:34:49.641>because <00:34:49.875>I'm,

748
00:34:55.315 --> 00:34:57.525
<00:34:55.315>when <00:34:55.490>I <00:34:55.665>discuss <00:34:55.840>with <00:34:56.014>my <00:34:56.190>wife <00:34:56.365>about <00:34:56.540>other <00:34:56.715>topics,

749
00:34:57.765 --> 00:34:59.885
<00:34:57.765>I <00:34:57.920>always <00:34:58.076>say <00:34:58.231>there, <00:34:58.387>you <00:34:58.542>are <00:34:58.698>much <00:34:58.853>better <00:34:59.009>in <00:34:59.165>German

750
00:34:59.985 --> 00:35:01.165
<00:34:59.985>and <00:35:00.197>in <00:35:00.409>wording <00:35:00.622>than <00:35:00.834>I <00:35:01.047>am.

751
00:35:01.645 --> 00:35:03.925
<00:35:01.645>Because <00:35:01.878>for <00:35:02.111>me, <00:35:02.345>talent <00:35:02.578>acquisition <00:35:02.811>was <00:35:03.045>given.

752
00:35:03.925 --> 00:35:06.685
<00:35:03.925>So <00:35:04.100>I <00:35:04.275>never <00:35:04.450>thought <00:35:04.625>about <00:35:04.800>if <00:35:04.975>it's <00:35:05.150>right <00:35:05.325>wording,

753
00:35:06.885 --> 00:35:08.085
<00:35:06.885>I, <00:35:07.065>I <00:35:07.245>will <00:35:07.425>think <00:35:07.605>about <00:35:07.785>it <00:35:07.965>when

754
00:35:08.375 --> 00:35:10.645
<00:35:08.375>Let's <00:35:08.550>record, <00:35:08.725>We, <00:35:08.900>we, <00:35:09.075>next <00:35:09.250>time <00:35:09.425>I'll <00:35:09.600>give <00:35:09.775>you

755
00:35:10.905 --> 00:35:11.905
<00:35:10.905>An <00:35:11.130>answer <00:35:11.355>On <00:35:11.580>it. <00:35:11.805>An

756
00:35:11.905 --> 00:35:14.445
<00:35:11.905>answer <00:35:12.185>on <00:35:12.465>it. <00:35:12.745>But, <00:35:13.025>uh, <00:35:13.305>um,

757
00:35:16.325 --> 00:35:18.845
<00:35:16.325>I <00:35:16.441>Mean, <00:35:16.558>on <00:35:16.674>a, <00:35:16.791>on <00:35:16.908>a, <00:35:17.024>on <00:35:17.141>a, <00:35:17.258>on <00:35:17.375>a <00:35:17.491>content <00:35:17.608>site <00:35:17.725>mm-hmm.

758
00:35:19.585 --> 00:35:21.805
<00:35:19.585>Uh, <00:35:19.740>I <00:35:19.896>give <00:35:20.051>you, <00:35:20.207>I <00:35:20.362>will <00:35:20.518>give <00:35:20.673>you <00:35:20.829>two <00:35:20.985>answers

759
00:35:21.905 --> 00:35:22.965
<00:35:21.905>and <00:35:22.143>not <00:35:22.382>about <00:35:22.620>the <00:35:22.859>wording.

760
00:35:22.965 --> 00:35:26.925
<00:35:22.965>The <00:35:23.105>first <00:35:23.245>thing <00:35:23.385>is <00:35:23.525>the <00:35:23.665>way <00:35:23.805>you <00:35:23.945>find <00:35:24.085>the <00:35:24.225>best <00:35:24.365>people

761
00:35:27.625 --> 00:35:28.765
<00:35:27.625>is <00:35:27.881>a <00:35:28.138>completely <00:35:28.394>different <00:35:28.651>one.

762
00:35:28.765 --> 00:35:31.245
<00:35:28.765>Yeah. <00:35:29.045>Before, <00:35:29.325>which <00:35:29.605>means <00:35:29.884>you <00:35:30.165>need

763
00:35:31.245 --> 00:35:33.445
<00:35:31.245>to <00:35:31.400>have <00:35:31.556>much <00:35:31.711>more <00:35:31.867>active <00:35:32.022>role <00:35:32.178>than <00:35:32.333>in <00:35:32.489>the <00:35:32.645>past.

764
00:35:33.555 --> 00:35:36.965
<00:35:33.555>Yeah. <00:35:33.710>Uh, <00:35:33.866>and <00:35:34.021>if <00:35:34.177>you <00:35:34.332>call <00:35:34.488>it <00:35:34.643>acquisition, <00:35:34.799>I <00:35:34.955>have

765
00:35:37.005 --> 00:35:41.125
<00:35:37.005>to <00:35:37.160>think <00:35:37.316>about, <00:35:37.471>and <00:35:37.627>the <00:35:37.782>second <00:35:37.938>thing <00:35:38.093>is, <00:35:38.249>at <00:35:38.405>least

766
00:35:41.265 --> 00:35:43.725
<00:35:41.265>for <00:35:41.498>big <00:35:41.731>companies, <00:35:41.964>like <00:35:42.198>our <00:35:42.431>ones <00:35:42.665>mm-hmm.

767
00:35:44.795 --> 00:35:48.885
<00:35:44.795>It's <00:35:44.950>definitely <00:35:45.106>not <00:35:45.261>in <00:35:45.417>a <00:35:45.572>way <00:35:45.728>Okay. <00:35:45.883>Technology <00:35:46.039>is <00:35:46.195>changing.

768
00:35:49.335 --> 00:35:51.205
<00:35:49.335>Let's <00:35:49.685>take <00:35:50.035>concrete <00:35:50.385>example. <00:35:50.735>Yeah.

769
00:35:51.825 --> 00:35:55.485
<00:35:51.825>Now, <00:35:51.964>even <00:35:52.105>with <00:35:52.245>some <00:35:52.384>changes, <00:35:52.524>eh, <00:35:52.665>some <00:35:52.805>years <00:35:52.944>ago <00:35:53.085>we <00:35:53.225>thought,

770
00:35:57.355 --> 00:35:58.655
<00:35:57.355>no <00:35:57.647>more <00:35:57.940>ice <00:35:58.232>engine <00:35:58.525>anymore.

771
00:35:58.955 --> 00:36:00.855
<00:35:58.955>You <00:35:59.188>don't <00:35:59.421>need <00:35:59.654>a <00:35:59.888>diesel <00:36:00.121>engine <00:36:00.355>anymore.

772
00:36:00.915 --> 00:36:02.935
<00:36:00.915>And <00:36:01.090>by <00:36:01.265>the <00:36:01.440>way, <00:36:01.615>nobody <00:36:01.790>studied <00:36:01.965>it <00:36:02.140>anymore. <00:36:02.315>Yeah,

773
00:36:02.935 --> 00:36:03.935
<00:36:02.935>Yeah, <00:36:03.384>yeah. <00:36:03.835>Of

774
00:36:03.935 --> 00:36:04.935
<00:36:03.935>course. <00:36:04.384>And, <00:36:04.835>uh,

775
00:36:05.955 --> 00:36:08.935
<00:36:05.955>and <00:36:06.110>everything <00:36:06.266>has <00:36:06.421>to <00:36:06.577>be <00:36:06.732>with <00:36:06.888>batteries <00:36:07.043>and <00:36:07.199>fuel <00:36:07.355>cells.

776
00:36:10.195 --> 00:36:12.375
<00:36:10.195>Uh, <00:36:10.475>no <00:36:10.755>company <00:36:11.035>in <00:36:11.315>the <00:36:11.595>world,

777
00:36:12.435 --> 00:36:14.975
<00:36:12.435>at <00:36:12.634>least <00:36:12.835>not <00:36:13.035>our <00:36:13.235>ones <00:36:13.435>we <00:36:13.634>don't <00:36:13.835>want.

778
00:36:15.115 --> 00:36:17.015
<00:36:15.115>But <00:36:15.314>it's <00:36:15.515>also <00:36:15.714>not <00:36:15.915>possible <00:36:16.115>is <00:36:16.314>saying, <00:36:16.515>Hey,

779
00:36:17.155 --> 00:36:19.535
<00:36:17.155>you <00:36:17.310>have <00:36:17.466>3000 <00:36:17.621>diesel <00:36:17.777>engineers, <00:36:17.932>you <00:36:18.088>fire <00:36:18.243>all <00:36:18.399>of <00:36:18.555>them,

780
00:36:19.955 --> 00:36:22.695
<00:36:19.955>and <00:36:20.235>you <00:36:20.515>hire <00:36:20.795>3000 <00:36:21.075>battery <00:36:21.355>engineers.

781
00:36:22.765 --> 00:36:25.855
<00:36:22.765>Yeah. <00:36:22.920>Which <00:36:23.076>means, <00:36:23.231>and <00:36:23.387>this <00:36:23.542>is <00:36:23.698>now <00:36:23.853>probably <00:36:24.009>your <00:36:24.165>architect

782
00:36:26.815 --> 00:36:30.895
<00:36:26.815>question, <00:36:26.990>but <00:36:27.165>you <00:36:27.340>still <00:36:27.515>need <00:36:27.690>different <00:36:27.865>skillsets <00:36:28.040>of <00:36:28.215>course.

783
00:36:31.675 --> 00:36:33.495
<00:36:31.675>And <00:36:31.908>as <00:36:32.141>you <00:36:32.375>don't <00:36:32.608>fire <00:36:32.841>these <00:36:33.075>ones

784
00:36:33.555 --> 00:36:38.175
<00:36:33.555>and <00:36:33.710>you <00:36:33.866>don't <00:36:34.021>hire <00:36:34.177>these <00:36:34.332>ones <00:36:34.488>to <00:36:34.643>manage <00:36:34.799>these, <00:36:34.955>transition

785
00:36:38.995 --> 00:36:40.615
<00:36:38.995>is <00:36:39.194>much <00:36:39.395>more <00:36:39.595>important <00:36:39.795>than <00:36:39.995>in <00:36:40.194>the <00:36:40.395>past

786
00:36:40.615 --> 00:36:43.935
<00:36:40.615>because <00:36:40.895>it's <00:36:41.174>also <00:36:41.455>changing <00:36:41.734>much <00:36:42.015>faster.

787
00:36:44.275 --> 00:36:46.695
<00:36:44.275>For <00:36:44.430>sure. <00:36:44.586>There <00:36:44.741>was <00:36:44.897>always <00:36:45.052>a, <00:36:45.208>also <00:36:45.363>in <00:36:45.519>ice <00:36:45.675>engine

788
00:36:46.695 --> 00:36:48.775
<00:36:46.695>and <00:36:46.835>other <00:36:46.975>technologies, <00:36:47.115>it's <00:36:47.255>not <00:36:47.395>the <00:36:47.535>first <00:36:47.675>time <00:36:47.815>that <00:36:47.955>we <00:36:48.095>have

789
00:36:49.805 --> 00:36:54.055
<00:36:49.805>some <00:36:50.004>kind <00:36:50.205>of <00:36:50.404>disruption, <00:36:50.605>but <00:36:50.805>with <00:36:51.004>the <00:36:51.205>magnitude

790
00:36:54.075 --> 00:36:55.975
<00:36:54.075>and <00:36:54.214>the <00:36:54.355>speed <00:36:54.495>we <00:36:54.634>are <00:36:54.774>seeing <00:36:54.915>today, <00:36:55.055>it's <00:36:55.194>a <00:36:55.335>different <00:36:55.475>one.

791
00:36:55.995 --> 00:36:59.535
<00:36:55.995>So <00:36:56.170>I <00:36:56.345>probably <00:36:56.520>the <00:36:56.694>second <00:36:56.870>learning <00:36:57.045>today <00:36:57.220>is, <00:36:57.395>uh,

792
00:37:00.125 --> 00:37:04.135
<00:37:00.125>that <00:37:00.252>I <00:37:00.379>think <00:37:00.506>about <00:37:00.634>here, <00:37:00.761>very <00:37:00.888>likely <00:37:01.015>if <00:37:01.143>I <00:37:01.270>thought <00:37:01.397>about <00:37:01.525>it,

793
00:37:04.235 --> 00:37:06.615
<00:37:04.235>is <00:37:04.701>it's <00:37:05.168>again, <00:37:05.635>not,

794
00:37:06.715 --> 00:37:09.935
<00:37:06.715>or <00:37:07.181>it's <00:37:07.648>end, <00:37:08.115>it's

795
00:37:09.935 --> 00:37:13.975
<00:37:09.935>because <00:37:10.110>you <00:37:10.285>need <00:37:10.460>people <00:37:10.634>who <00:37:10.810>probably <00:37:10.985>even <00:37:11.160>acquire, <00:37:11.335>acquire

796
00:37:14.315 --> 00:37:15.615
<00:37:14.315>People. <00:37:14.900>Yeah. <00:37:15.484>Good

797
00:37:15.615 --> 00:37:16.615
<00:37:15.615>One. <00:37:16.064>And <00:37:16.515>fair,

798
00:37:16.615 --> 00:37:18.015
fair

799
00:37:18.495 --> 00:37:19.495
<00:37:18.495>Commend. <00:37:18.623>And <00:37:18.752>you <00:37:18.880>have <00:37:19.009>to <00:37:19.137>be <00:37:19.266>an <00:37:19.395>architect.

801
00:37:19.835 --> 00:37:24.175
<00:37:19.835>How <00:37:20.035>you <00:37:20.235>transfer <00:37:20.435>existing <00:37:20.635>ones, <00:37:20.835>again, <00:37:21.035>again, <00:37:21.235>into

802
00:37:24.175 --> 00:37:26.215
<00:37:24.175>The <00:37:24.455>future, <00:37:24.735>a <00:37:25.015>really <00:37:25.295>commend, <00:37:25.575>uh,

803
00:37:26.235 --> 00:37:29.215
<00:37:26.235>and <00:37:26.375>another <00:37:26.515>topic <00:37:26.655>that <00:37:26.795>really <00:37:26.935>we, <00:37:27.075>we <00:37:27.215>have <00:37:27.355>not <00:37:27.495>spoken <00:37:27.635>about

804
00:37:29.215 --> 00:37:32.135
<00:37:29.215>that <00:37:29.355>I <00:37:29.495>think, <00:37:29.635>but, <00:37:29.775>uh, <00:37:29.915>it, <00:37:30.055>it <00:37:30.195>really <00:37:30.335>drives <00:37:30.475>me <00:37:30.615>personally,

805
00:37:32.235 --> 00:37:34.535
<00:37:32.235>and <00:37:32.375>I'm <00:37:32.515>using <00:37:32.655>it <00:37:32.795>quite <00:37:32.935>often <00:37:33.075>on <00:37:33.215>stage <00:37:33.355>at <00:37:33.495>the <00:37:33.635>moment

806
00:37:34.535 --> 00:37:37.735
<00:37:34.535>because <00:37:34.734>it, <00:37:34.935>I, <00:37:35.134>I <00:37:35.335>really <00:37:35.535>personally <00:37:35.734>think <00:37:35.935>it's,

807
00:37:37.735 --> 00:37:39.655
<00:37:37.735>it's <00:37:37.968>probably, <00:37:38.201>I'm <00:37:38.435>totally <00:37:38.668>wrong <00:37:38.901>with <00:37:39.135>it,

808
00:37:39.655 --> 00:37:42.815
<00:37:39.655>but <00:37:39.855>I <00:37:40.055>personally <00:37:40.255>think <00:37:40.455>it, <00:37:40.655>it's <00:37:40.855>extremely <00:37:41.055>important.

809
00:37:43.815 --> 00:37:47.135
<00:37:43.815>I <00:37:43.970>think <00:37:44.126>we <00:37:44.281>need <00:37:44.437>to <00:37:44.592>balance <00:37:44.748>a <00:37:44.903>triangle, <00:37:45.059>which <00:37:45.215>needs

810
00:37:47.255 --> 00:37:49.295
<00:37:47.255>to <00:37:47.488>understand <00:37:47.721>business, <00:37:47.955>of <00:37:48.188>course, <00:37:48.421>which <00:37:48.655>needs

811
00:37:49.295 --> 00:37:50.415
<00:37:49.295>to <00:37:49.799>understand <00:37:50.303>profitability

812
00:37:50.435 --> 00:37:53.455
<00:37:50.435>and <00:37:50.610>growth, <00:37:50.785>which <00:37:50.960>needs <00:37:51.134>to <00:37:51.310>understand <00:37:51.485>all <00:37:51.660>the <00:37:51.835>economic,

813
00:37:54.155 --> 00:37:55.535
<00:37:54.155>uh, <00:37:55.397>circumstances.

814
00:37:56.075 --> 00:37:58.535
<00:37:56.075>On <00:37:56.214>the <00:37:56.355>other <00:37:56.495>hand, <00:37:56.634>I <00:37:56.774>think <00:37:56.915>it <00:37:57.055>needs <00:37:57.194>to, <00:37:57.335>it <00:37:57.475>needs

815
00:37:58.535 --> 00:38:00.215
<00:37:58.535>to <00:37:59.001>really <00:37:59.468>understand <00:37:59.935>technology.

816
00:38:00.715 --> 00:38:02.415
<00:38:00.715>And <00:38:00.890>the <00:38:01.065>third <00:38:01.240>thing, <00:38:01.415>it <00:38:01.590>needs <00:38:01.765>to <00:38:01.940>understand <00:38:02.115>humans.

817
00:38:03.515 --> 00:38:06.455
<00:38:03.515>And <00:38:03.670>I <00:38:03.826>mean, <00:38:03.981>I <00:38:04.137>was <00:38:04.292>working <00:38:04.448>for <00:38:04.603>corporates <00:38:04.759>for <00:38:04.915>many,

818
00:38:06.455 --> 00:38:08.855
<00:38:06.455>many <00:38:06.610>years, <00:38:06.766>and <00:38:06.921>I <00:38:07.077>sometimes <00:38:07.232>had <00:38:07.388>this <00:38:07.543>kind <00:38:07.699>of <00:38:07.855>feeling

819
00:38:09.405 --> 00:38:11.615
<00:38:09.405>that <00:38:09.638>we <00:38:09.871>are, <00:38:10.105>well <00:38:10.338>managing <00:38:10.571>three <00:38:10.805>silos.

820
00:38:11.795 --> 00:38:14.735
<00:38:11.795>So <00:38:11.970>we <00:38:12.145>have <00:38:12.320>a <00:38:12.495>kind <00:38:12.670>of <00:38:12.845>a <00:38:13.020>technical <00:38:13.195>department,

821
00:38:14.735 --> 00:38:16.575
<00:38:14.735>which <00:38:14.968>is <00:38:15.201>really <00:38:15.435>good <00:38:15.668>in <00:38:15.901>managing <00:38:16.135>themselves.

822
00:38:16.675 --> 00:38:18.615
<00:38:16.675>We <00:38:16.875>have <00:38:17.075>it <00:38:17.275>on <00:38:17.475>C <00:38:17.675>level <00:38:17.875>of <00:38:18.075>course.

823
00:38:18.715 --> 00:38:20.895
<00:38:18.715>And <00:38:18.890>we <00:38:19.065>have <00:38:19.240>it <00:38:19.415>on, <00:38:19.590>on, <00:38:19.765>on, <00:38:19.940>on <00:38:20.115>CHRO

824
00:38:20.895 --> 00:38:23.015
<00:38:20.895>or <00:38:21.070>on, <00:38:21.245>on, <00:38:21.420>on <00:38:21.595>on <00:38:21.770>human <00:38:21.945>level <00:38:22.120>as <00:38:22.295>well.

825
00:38:24.675 --> 00:38:28.775
<00:38:24.675>How, <00:38:24.830>how <00:38:24.986>good <00:38:25.141>is <00:38:25.297>the <00:38:25.452>collaboration <00:38:25.608>within <00:38:25.763>your <00:38:25.919>company <00:38:26.075>if

826
00:38:28.775 --> 00:38:31.175
<00:38:28.775>it, <00:38:29.008>if <00:38:29.241>it <00:38:29.475>comes <00:38:29.708>to <00:38:29.941>really <00:38:30.175>putting

827
00:38:32.275 --> 00:38:34.095
<00:38:32.275>all <00:38:32.508>these <00:38:32.741>three <00:38:32.975>aspects <00:38:33.208>in, <00:38:33.441>in, <00:38:33.675>in,

828
00:38:34.315 --> 00:38:36.445
<00:38:34.315>in <00:38:34.595>top <00:38:34.875>management <00:38:35.155>for <00:38:35.435>your <00:38:35.715>perspective?

829
00:38:36.825 --> 00:38:38.845
<00:38:36.825>Uh, <00:38:37.024>first <00:38:37.225>of <00:38:37.424>all, <00:38:37.625>I <00:38:37.825>would <00:38:38.024>completely <00:38:38.225>agree

830
00:38:38.845 --> 00:38:42.085
<00:38:38.845>with <00:38:39.020>your <00:38:39.194>concept, <00:38:39.370>uhhuh, <00:38:39.544>because <00:38:39.720>when <00:38:39.895>I'm <00:38:40.069>giving <00:38:40.245>speeches

831
00:38:42.265 --> 00:38:45.285
<00:38:42.265>or <00:38:42.440>drawing <00:38:42.615>pictures, <00:38:42.790>I <00:38:42.964>always <00:38:43.140>also <00:38:43.315>use <00:38:43.490>a <00:38:43.665>triangle.

832
00:38:45.425 --> 00:38:47.485
<00:38:45.425>Mm-hmm. <00:38:46.125>Slightly <00:38:46.825>differences.

833
00:38:47.805 --> 00:38:51.725
<00:38:47.805>I, <00:38:47.944>I <00:38:48.085>normally <00:38:48.225>have, <00:38:48.365>in <00:38:48.504>one <00:38:48.645>corner <00:38:48.785>I <00:38:48.924>have <00:38:49.065>product <00:38:49.205>mm-hmm.

834
00:38:52.165 --> 00:38:55.685
<00:38:52.165>Customer. <00:38:52.365>Mm-hmm. <00:38:52.565>Mm-hmm. <00:38:52.765>And <00:38:52.965>then <00:38:53.165>also <00:38:53.365>the <00:38:53.565>technology.

835
00:38:55.745 --> 00:38:59.245
<00:38:55.745>Mm-hmm. <00:38:55.920>One <00:38:56.095>corner <00:38:56.270>is <00:38:56.444>capital <00:38:56.620>market <00:38:56.795>and <00:38:56.970>finance. <00:38:57.145>Mm-hmm.

836
00:38:59.265 --> 00:39:02.605
<00:38:59.265>And <00:38:59.464>the <00:38:59.665>third <00:38:59.865>corner <00:39:00.065>is <00:39:00.265>people. <00:39:00.464>Mm-hmm. <00:39:00.665>Mm-hmm.

837
00:39:03.065 --> 00:39:06.605
<00:39:03.065>And <00:39:03.205>I <00:39:03.345>am, <00:39:03.485>I'm <00:39:03.625>convinced <00:39:03.765>that <00:39:03.905>like <00:39:04.045>if <00:39:04.185>it, <00:39:04.325>if <00:39:04.465>it's,

838
00:39:06.625 --> 00:39:09.565
<00:39:06.625>if <00:39:06.825>it's <00:39:07.025>a <00:39:07.225>chair <00:39:07.425>with <00:39:07.625>these <00:39:07.825>three <00:39:08.025>different,

839
00:39:09.725 --> 00:39:12.645
<00:39:09.725>I <00:39:09.900>don't <00:39:10.075>know <00:39:10.250>the <00:39:10.424>English <00:39:10.600>word, <00:39:10.775>that <00:39:10.950>these <00:39:11.125>Yeah.

840
00:39:13.235 --> 00:39:16.445
<00:39:13.235>Legs. <00:39:13.390>If <00:39:13.546>you, <00:39:13.701>if <00:39:13.857>you <00:39:14.012>have <00:39:14.168>a <00:39:14.323>chair <00:39:14.479>with <00:39:14.635>three

841
00:39:16.865 --> 00:39:20.485
<00:39:16.865>and <00:39:17.020>you <00:39:17.176>take <00:39:17.331>out <00:39:17.487>one, <00:39:17.642>you <00:39:17.798>will <00:39:17.953>fall <00:39:18.109>down. <00:39:18.265>Yeah.

842
00:39:20.565 --> 00:39:22.525
<00:39:20.565>I <00:39:20.692>mean, <00:39:20.819>you <00:39:20.946>have <00:39:21.074>the <00:39:21.201>cameras <00:39:21.328>here <00:39:21.455>on <00:39:21.583>tripod, <00:39:21.710>so <00:39:21.837>if <00:39:21.965>you

843
00:39:22.525 --> 00:39:24.765
<00:39:22.525>Remove <00:39:22.725>one, <00:39:22.925>we <00:39:23.125>can, <00:39:23.325>we <00:39:23.525>can <00:39:23.725>it <00:39:23.925>out.

844
00:39:25.015 --> 00:39:26.045
<00:39:25.015>Might <00:39:25.246>be <00:39:25.478>a <00:39:25.710>nice <00:39:25.942>exercise,

845
00:39:26.145 --> 00:39:28.885
<00:39:26.145>but <00:39:26.320>I <00:39:26.495>don't <00:39:26.670>know <00:39:26.845>how <00:39:27.020>expensive <00:39:27.195>your <00:39:27.370>equipment <00:39:27.545>is.

846
00:39:29.745 --> 00:39:31.725
<00:39:29.745>Um, <00:39:30.095>so <00:39:30.444>the <00:39:30.795>first <00:39:31.145>thing,

847
00:39:31.725 --> 00:39:34.645
<00:39:31.725>what <00:39:31.924>I'm <00:39:32.125>normally <00:39:32.325>doing <00:39:32.525>is <00:39:32.725>explaining, <00:39:32.924>it's <00:39:33.125>wonderful.

848
00:39:34.645 --> 00:39:36.885
<00:39:34.645>We <00:39:34.800>have <00:39:34.956>the <00:39:35.111>write <00:39:35.267>product. <00:39:35.422>The <00:39:35.578>customer <00:39:35.733>love <00:39:35.889>us. <00:39:36.045>Yeah.

849
00:39:37.305 --> 00:39:39.525
<00:39:37.305>We <00:39:37.460>are <00:39:37.616>earning <00:39:37.771>good <00:39:37.927>money, <00:39:38.082>but <00:39:38.238>the <00:39:38.393>people <00:39:38.549>hate <00:39:38.705>us.

850
00:39:39.525 --> 00:39:41.605
<00:39:39.525>They <00:39:39.680>disappear. <00:39:39.836>We <00:39:39.991>have <00:39:40.147>to <00:39:40.302>train <00:39:40.458>them <00:39:40.613>all <00:39:40.769>the <00:39:40.925>time.

851
00:39:41.745 --> 00:39:43.085
<00:39:41.745>We <00:39:42.046>will <00:39:42.348>end <00:39:42.649>nowhere. <00:39:42.951>Yeah.

852
00:39:43.545 --> 00:39:46.125
<00:39:43.545>If <00:39:43.700>we <00:39:43.856>have <00:39:44.011>great <00:39:44.167>people, <00:39:44.322>they're <00:39:44.478>happy, <00:39:44.633>financials <00:39:44.789>are <00:39:44.945>okay,

853
00:39:46.625 --> 00:39:48.725
<00:39:46.625>but <00:39:46.780>the <00:39:46.936>customers <00:39:47.091>don't <00:39:47.247>believe <00:39:47.402>in <00:39:47.558>the <00:39:47.713>future <00:39:47.869>of <00:39:48.025>our

854
00:39:49.515 --> 00:39:51.365
<00:39:49.515>same <00:39:49.714>at <00:39:49.915>some <00:39:50.115>point <00:39:50.315>of <00:39:50.515>time, <00:39:50.714>also <00:39:50.915>gun.

855
00:39:51.785 --> 00:39:54.765
<00:39:51.785>And <00:39:51.960>if <00:39:52.134>we <00:39:52.310>have <00:39:52.484>customers <00:39:52.660>who <00:39:52.835>loves <00:39:53.009>our <00:39:53.185>product,

856
00:39:55.825 --> 00:39:57.085
<00:39:55.825>we <00:39:56.108>have <00:39:56.392>great <00:39:56.675>motivated <00:39:56.959>people,

857
00:39:57.105 --> 00:40:01.125
<00:39:57.105>but <00:39:57.260>earning <00:39:57.416>no <00:39:57.571>money, <00:39:57.727>it's <00:39:57.882>also <00:39:58.038>not <00:39:58.193>working <00:39:58.349>in, <00:39:58.505>in,

858
00:40:01.145 --> 00:40:02.805
<00:40:01.145>at <00:40:01.425>least <00:40:01.705>in <00:40:01.985>a <00:40:02.265>capitalistic <00:40:02.545>environment.

859
00:40:03.305 --> 00:40:05.165
<00:40:03.305>Uh, <00:40:03.480>so <00:40:03.654>basically <00:40:03.830>you <00:40:04.004>really <00:40:04.180>have <00:40:04.355>to <00:40:04.529>take <00:40:04.705>care

860
00:40:05.165 --> 00:40:06.325
<00:40:05.165>of <00:40:05.513>all <00:40:05.861>these <00:40:06.209>aspects.

861
00:40:06.745 --> 00:40:10.725
<00:40:06.745>And, <00:40:06.861>uh, <00:40:06.978>the <00:40:07.095>honest <00:40:07.211>answer <00:40:07.328>is <00:40:07.444>we <00:40:07.561>try <00:40:07.678>at <00:40:07.795>least <00:40:07.911>in <00:40:08.028>board <00:40:08.145>and,

862
00:40:10.785 --> 00:40:11.925
<00:40:10.785>and, <00:40:11.127>and, <00:40:11.469>and <00:40:11.811>below.

863
00:40:12.105 --> 00:40:14.645
<00:40:12.105>Mm-hmm. <00:40:12.305>We <00:40:12.505>try <00:40:12.705>to <00:40:12.905>balance <00:40:13.105>this <00:40:13.305>out. <00:40:13.505>Mm-hmm.

864
00:40:15.395 --> 00:40:18.645
<00:40:15.395>Also, <00:40:15.522>by <00:40:15.649>the <00:40:15.776>way, <00:40:15.904>I <00:40:16.031>would <00:40:16.158>say <00:40:16.285>if <00:40:16.413>you, <00:40:16.540>if <00:40:16.667>you <00:40:16.795>have

865
00:40:19.675 --> 00:40:21.565
<00:40:19.675>just <00:40:19.850>two <00:40:20.025>out <00:40:20.200>of <00:40:20.375>the <00:40:20.550>three <00:40:20.725>will <00:40:20.900>fall <00:40:21.075>down.

866
00:40:21.565 --> 00:40:25.805
<00:40:21.565>Mm-hmm. <00:40:21.720>But <00:40:21.876>it <00:40:22.031>doesn't <00:40:22.187>mean <00:40:22.342>automatically <00:40:22.498>that <00:40:22.653>it, <00:40:22.809>all <00:40:22.965>three

867
00:40:25.805 --> 00:40:27.045
<00:40:25.805>of <00:40:26.084>them <00:40:26.363>has <00:40:26.642>to <00:40:26.921>be

868
00:40:27.475 --> 00:40:29.205
<00:40:27.475>Exactly <00:40:27.708>the <00:40:27.941>same, <00:40:28.174>the <00:40:28.408>same <00:40:28.641>way. <00:40:28.875>Course

869
00:40:29.205 --> 00:40:30.205
<00:40:29.205>At <00:40:29.355>the <00:40:29.505>same <00:40:29.654>point <00:40:29.805>of <00:40:29.955>time. <00:40:30.105>Yeah,

870
00:40:30.205 --> 00:40:31.725
<00:40:30.205>course, <00:40:30.478>course. <00:40:30.752>Because <00:40:31.025>for <00:40:31.299>sure. <00:40:31.573>Yeah.

871
00:40:31.725 --> 00:40:33.965
<00:40:31.725>We <00:40:31.852>are <00:40:31.979>in <00:40:32.106>a <00:40:32.234>situation, <00:40:32.361>we <00:40:32.488>are <00:40:32.615>now <00:40:32.743>four <00:40:32.870>years <00:40:32.997>a <00:40:33.125>listed

872
00:40:33.965 --> 00:40:36.085
<00:40:33.965>company <00:40:34.665>for <00:40:35.365>sure.

873
00:40:36.105 --> 00:40:39.565
<00:40:36.105>The <00:40:36.280>capital <00:40:36.455>market <00:40:36.630>is <00:40:36.805>extremely <00:40:36.980>observing. <00:40:37.155>Yeah. <00:40:37.330>Of <00:40:37.505>course.

874
00:40:39.665 --> 00:40:41.525
<00:40:39.665>If <00:40:39.865>we <00:40:40.065>deliver <00:40:40.265>our <00:40:40.465>promises. <00:40:40.665>Yeah, <00:40:40.865>of <00:40:41.065>course.

875
00:40:41.785 --> 00:40:46.005
<00:40:41.785>Uh, <00:40:41.924>and <00:40:42.065>for <00:40:42.205>sure <00:40:42.345>there <00:40:42.484>is, <00:40:42.625>I <00:40:42.765>would <00:40:42.904>not <00:40:43.045>say <00:40:43.185>pressure,

876
00:40:47.045 --> 00:40:48.285
<00:40:47.045>I <00:40:47.268>would <00:40:47.491>phrase <00:40:47.714>it <00:40:47.937>more <00:40:48.161>positive.

877
00:40:48.285 --> 00:40:50.365
<00:40:48.285>There <00:40:48.484>are <00:40:48.685>expectations <00:40:48.884>we <00:40:49.085>have <00:40:49.285>to <00:40:49.484>fulfill. <00:40:49.685>Mm-hmm.

878
00:40:50.365 --> 00:40:51.445
<00:40:50.365>And <00:40:50.689>I'm <00:40:51.013>fully <00:40:51.337>committed.

879
00:40:51.905 --> 00:40:55.125
<00:40:51.905>And <00:40:52.021>there, <00:40:52.138>by <00:40:52.255>the <00:40:52.371>way, <00:40:52.488>uh, <00:40:52.605>when <00:40:52.721>we <00:40:52.838>talk <00:40:52.955>about <00:40:53.071>role <00:40:53.188>of <00:40:53.305>hr,

880
00:40:56.065 --> 00:40:58.325
<00:40:56.065>it <00:40:56.265>doesn't <00:40:56.465>help <00:40:56.665>that <00:40:56.865>I <00:40:57.065>say, <00:40:57.265>Hey, <00:40:57.465>uh,

881
00:40:58.795 --> 00:41:00.605
<00:40:58.795>from <00:40:58.970>an <00:40:59.145>HR <00:40:59.320>perspective, <00:40:59.495>we <00:40:59.670>should <00:40:59.845>not <00:41:00.020>do <00:41:00.195>it.

882
00:41:00.605 --> 00:41:02.205
<00:41:00.605>Yeah. <00:41:00.780>At <00:41:00.955>the <00:41:01.130>end, <00:41:01.305>we <00:41:01.480>are <00:41:01.655>one <00:41:01.830>company <00:41:02.005>here.

883
00:41:02.205 --> 00:41:03.725
<00:41:02.205>We <00:41:02.400>are <00:41:02.595>not <00:41:02.791>hr, <00:41:02.986>we <00:41:03.182>are <00:41:03.377>not <00:41:03.573>finance,

884
00:41:04.185 --> 00:41:05.805
<00:41:04.185>we <00:41:04.465>are <00:41:04.745>not <00:41:05.025>sales <00:41:05.305>or <00:41:05.585>engineering.

885
00:41:06.195 --> 00:41:08.685
<00:41:06.195>There's <00:41:06.350>only <00:41:06.506>one <00:41:06.661>p <00:41:06.817>and <00:41:06.972>l. <00:41:07.128>There's <00:41:07.283>only <00:41:07.439>one <00:41:07.595>success.

886
00:41:08.685 --> 00:41:10.085
<00:41:08.685>There <00:41:08.895>are <00:41:09.105>only <00:41:09.315>one <00:41:09.525>group <00:41:09.735>of <00:41:09.945>people.

887
00:41:10.985 --> 00:41:13.565
<00:41:10.985>So <00:41:11.185>for <00:41:11.385>sure <00:41:11.585>you <00:41:11.785>have <00:41:11.985>your <00:41:12.185>specific <00:41:12.385>kind

888
00:41:13.565 --> 00:41:14.685
<00:41:13.565>of <00:41:13.901>knowledge <00:41:14.237>and <00:41:14.573>view.

889
00:41:14.955 --> 00:41:18.005
<00:41:14.955>Yeah. <00:41:15.095>But <00:41:15.235>in <00:41:15.375>the <00:41:15.515>end, <00:41:15.654>it's <00:41:15.795>about <00:41:15.935>showing <00:41:16.075>decisions <00:41:16.215>that <00:41:16.355>have

890
00:41:18.005 --> 00:41:19.365
<00:41:18.005>to <00:41:18.311>reflect <00:41:18.617>all <00:41:18.923>these <00:41:19.229>aspects.

891
00:41:19.555 --> 00:41:21.165
<00:41:19.555>Yeah. <00:41:19.835>And <00:41:20.115>I <00:41:20.395>can't <00:41:20.674>say <00:41:20.955>Yeah.

892
00:41:21.225 --> 00:41:23.485
<00:41:21.225>But <00:41:21.400>from <00:41:21.575>an <00:41:21.750>HR <00:41:21.924>team, <00:41:22.100>it's <00:41:22.275>not <00:41:22.450>helping. <00:41:22.625>Yeah.

893
00:41:23.805 --> 00:41:25.805
<00:41:23.805>I <00:41:23.944>think <00:41:24.085>this <00:41:24.225>really <00:41:24.365>brings <00:41:24.504>us <00:41:24.645>back <00:41:24.785>to <00:41:24.924>the <00:41:25.065>very <00:41:25.205>beginning

894
00:41:25.805 --> 00:41:29.005
<00:41:25.805>of <00:41:25.960>the <00:41:26.116>talk <00:41:26.271>where <00:41:26.427>we <00:41:26.582>said, <00:41:26.738>okay, <00:41:26.893>you <00:41:27.049>need <00:41:27.205>to,

895
00:41:29.665 --> 00:41:32.485
<00:41:29.665>if <00:41:29.805>you're <00:41:29.945>in <00:41:30.085>hr, <00:41:30.225>you <00:41:30.365>need <00:41:30.505>to <00:41:30.645>explain <00:41:30.785>it <00:41:30.925>to <00:41:31.065>your,

896
00:41:33.065 --> 00:41:34.325
<00:41:33.065>to <00:41:33.348>all <00:41:33.632>the <00:41:33.915>people <00:41:34.198>and,

897
00:41:34.325 --> 00:41:38.365
<00:41:34.325>and <00:41:34.500>all <00:41:34.674>the <00:41:34.850>employees <00:41:35.024>that <00:41:35.200>sometimes <00:41:35.375>it's <00:41:35.549>very <00:41:35.725>necessary

898
00:41:38.505 --> 00:41:41.965
<00:41:38.505>to <00:41:38.705>take <00:41:38.905>tough <00:41:39.105>decisions, <00:41:39.305>to <00:41:39.505>stay <00:41:39.705>future <00:41:39.905>proof,

899
00:41:42.105 --> 00:41:44.245
<00:41:42.105>and <00:41:42.385>to <00:41:42.665>meet <00:41:42.945>the <00:41:43.225>other <00:41:43.505>expectations.

900
00:41:44.305 --> 00:41:45.765
<00:41:44.305>And <00:41:44.524>I <00:41:44.743>think <00:41:44.962>probably <00:41:45.181>that's <00:41:45.399>the <00:41:45.618>trick.

901
00:41:45.765 --> 00:41:47.765
<00:41:45.765>That's, <00:41:45.940>we <00:41:46.115>are <00:41:46.290>coming <00:41:46.464>back <00:41:46.640>to <00:41:46.815>the <00:41:46.990>end, <00:41:47.165>honestly,

902
00:41:48.325 --> 00:41:49.325
<00:41:48.325>Probably. <00:41:48.625>It's <00:41:48.924>again, <00:41:49.225>end.

903
00:41:49.325 --> 00:41:50.285
<00:41:49.325>Yeah. <00:41:50.189>It

904
00:41:50.385 --> 00:41:52.605
<00:41:50.385>Can, <00:41:50.512>It <00:41:50.639>has <00:41:50.766>to <00:41:50.894>go <00:41:51.021>on <00:41:51.148>and <00:41:51.275>you <00:41:51.403>have <00:41:51.530>to <00:41:51.657>explain <00:41:51.785>it.

905
00:41:52.785 --> 00:41:55.285
<00:41:52.785>And, <00:41:53.251>uh, <00:41:53.718>um, <00:41:54.185>yeah.

906
00:41:55.825 --> 00:41:58.845
<00:41:55.825>And <00:41:56.291>as <00:41:56.758>already <00:41:57.225>discussed

907
00:41:58.845 --> 00:42:01.525
<00:41:58.845>before, <00:41:59.044>one <00:41:59.245>thing <00:41:59.444>is <00:41:59.645>you <00:41:59.845>have <00:42:00.044>to <00:42:00.245>mm-hmm.

908
00:42:02.265 --> 00:42:04.525
<00:42:02.265>Or <00:42:02.440>the <00:42:02.615>other <00:42:02.790>thing <00:42:02.964>you <00:42:03.140>are <00:42:03.315>allowed <00:42:03.490>to <00:42:03.665>Yeah.

909
00:42:04.865 --> 00:42:06.365
<00:42:04.865>Try <00:42:05.134>to <00:42:05.404>manage <00:42:05.674>this, <00:42:05.944>uh, <00:42:06.214>triangle.

910
00:42:07.365 --> 00:42:08.805
<00:42:07.365>I <00:42:07.580>mean, <00:42:07.796>I <00:42:08.013>always <00:42:08.229>ask <00:42:08.444>this <00:42:08.661>question

911
00:42:08.805 --> 00:42:10.685
<00:42:08.805>because <00:42:08.960>I <00:42:09.116>think <00:42:09.271>we <00:42:09.427>are <00:42:09.582>really <00:42:09.738>coming <00:42:09.893>to <00:42:10.049>an <00:42:10.205>end.

912
00:42:11.125 --> 00:42:12.805
<00:42:11.125>I <00:42:11.300>think <00:42:11.475>the <00:42:11.650>time <00:42:11.825>is <00:42:12.000>passing <00:42:12.175>by <00:42:12.350>so <00:42:12.525>quickly,

913
00:42:12.945 --> 00:42:15.725
<00:42:12.945>but <00:42:13.085>the <00:42:13.225>wonderful <00:42:13.365>thing, <00:42:13.505>I <00:42:13.645>hope <00:42:13.785>I'm <00:42:13.925>allowed <00:42:14.065>to <00:42:14.205>announce <00:42:14.345>it,

914
00:42:15.725 --> 00:42:19.125
<00:42:15.725>otherwise <00:42:15.841>we <00:42:15.958>need <00:42:16.075>to <00:42:16.191>cut <00:42:16.308>it <00:42:16.424>out <00:42:16.541>later <00:42:16.658>on, <00:42:16.775>uh, <00:42:16.891>is <00:42:17.008>that, <00:42:17.125>um,

915
00:42:19.785 --> 00:42:21.885
<00:42:19.785>you <00:42:19.960>will <00:42:20.134>be <00:42:20.310>with <00:42:20.484>us <00:42:20.660>at, <00:42:20.835>at, <00:42:21.009>at, <00:42:21.185>uh,

916
00:42:21.915 --> 00:42:24.765
<00:42:21.915>with <00:42:22.090>developers <00:42:22.265>World <00:42:22.440>Congress <00:42:22.615>2026 <00:42:22.790>in <00:42:22.965>Berlin <00:42:23.140>in <00:42:23.315>July.

917
00:42:24.825 --> 00:42:26.325
<00:42:24.825>So <00:42:25.049>I'm <00:42:25.274>really <00:42:25.500>looking <00:42:25.725>forward <00:42:25.950>to <00:42:26.174>that,

918
00:42:26.385 --> 00:42:27.405
<00:42:26.385>and <00:42:26.614>I'm <00:42:26.844>really <00:42:27.073>looking <00:42:27.303>forward

919
00:42:27.405 --> 00:42:30.605
<00:42:27.405>to <00:42:27.532>have <00:42:27.659>a <00:42:27.786>really <00:42:27.914>nice <00:42:28.041>discussion <00:42:28.168>or <00:42:28.295>talk <00:42:28.423>from <00:42:28.550>you <00:42:28.677>on <00:42:28.805>stage.

920
00:42:31.165 --> 00:42:33.925
<00:42:31.165>I <00:42:31.365>think, <00:42:31.565>uh, <00:42:31.765>it's <00:42:31.965>a <00:42:32.165>really <00:42:32.365>great <00:42:32.565>opportunity

921
00:42:34.025 --> 00:42:36.525
<00:42:34.025>for <00:42:34.152>all <00:42:34.279>our <00:42:34.406>guests <00:42:34.534>in <00:42:34.661>the <00:42:34.788>auditorium <00:42:34.915>to <00:42:35.043>see <00:42:35.170>you <00:42:35.297>on <00:42:35.425>stage

922
00:42:36.625 --> 00:42:39.125
<00:42:36.625>and <00:42:36.825>to <00:42:37.025>listen <00:42:37.225>to <00:42:37.425>you <00:42:37.625>sharing <00:42:37.825>your <00:42:38.025>thoughts

923
00:42:39.125 --> 00:42:40.405
<00:42:39.125>and <00:42:39.509>your <00:42:39.893>massive <00:42:40.277>experience.

924
00:42:40.825 --> 00:42:42.645
<00:42:40.825>But <00:42:41.024>I <00:42:41.225>have <00:42:41.424>a <00:42:41.625>final <00:42:41.825>question, <00:42:42.024>which, <00:42:42.225>uh,

925
00:42:43.285 --> 00:42:46.805
<00:42:43.285>normally <00:42:43.440>every <00:42:43.596>opportunity <00:42:43.751>with <00:42:43.907>HR <00:42:44.062>as <00:42:44.218>well, <00:42:44.373>if <00:42:44.529>I <00:42:44.685>dean

926
00:42:46.805 --> 00:42:49.645
<00:42:46.805>with <00:42:46.944>the <00:42:47.085>magic <00:42:47.225>lamp <00:42:47.365>shows <00:42:47.504>up <00:42:47.645>now <00:42:47.785>in <00:42:47.924>this <00:42:48.065>wonderful <00:42:48.205>truck,

927
00:42:50.305 --> 00:42:53.205
<00:42:50.305>do <00:42:50.444>you <00:42:50.585>have <00:42:50.725>one <00:42:50.865>wish <00:42:51.004>which <00:42:51.145>you <00:42:51.285>would <00:42:51.424>give <00:42:51.565>him <00:42:51.705>related

928
00:42:53.385 --> 00:42:54.725
<00:42:53.385>to <00:42:53.626>the <00:42:53.867>discussion <00:42:54.108>that <00:42:54.349>we <00:42:54.591>had?

929
00:42:58.195 --> 00:43:00.045
<00:42:58.195>It's, <00:42:58.428>it's <00:42:58.661>close <00:42:58.895>to <00:42:59.128>Christmas. <00:42:59.361>Yeah. <00:42:59.595>Mm-hmm.

930
00:43:00.125 --> 00:43:03.205
<00:43:00.125>Uh, <00:43:00.405>my <00:43:00.685>wish <00:43:00.965>is <00:43:01.245>that, <00:43:01.525>uh,

931
00:43:03.825 --> 00:43:06.245
<00:43:03.825>and <00:43:04.024>this <00:43:04.225>is <00:43:04.424>not, <00:43:04.625>not <00:43:04.825>be <00:43:05.024>for <00:43:05.225>the,

932
00:43:06.265 --> 00:43:08.005
<00:43:06.265>for <00:43:06.440>the <00:43:06.615>company <00:43:06.790>in <00:43:06.964>the <00:43:07.140>world <00:43:07.315>that <00:43:07.490>is <00:43:07.665>changing

933
00:43:08.115 --> 00:43:12.405
<00:43:08.115>with <00:43:08.254>the <00:43:08.395>climate <00:43:08.535>change <00:43:08.674>with <00:43:08.814>sort <00:43:08.955>of <00:43:09.095>much <00:43:09.234>conflicts <00:43:09.375>that <00:43:09.515>we

934
00:43:12.405 --> 00:43:15.405
<00:43:12.405>as <00:43:12.755>human <00:43:13.105>beings <00:43:13.455>learn <00:43:13.805>again

935
00:43:16.185 --> 00:43:17.925
<00:43:16.185>to <00:43:16.535>discuss <00:43:16.884>about <00:43:17.235>different <00:43:17.585>aspects.

936
00:43:17.945 --> 00:43:19.685
<00:43:17.945>We <00:43:18.120>don't <00:43:18.295>have <00:43:18.470>to <00:43:18.645>agree <00:43:18.820>on <00:43:18.995>all <00:43:19.170>different <00:43:19.345>topics.

937
00:43:19.695 --> 00:43:21.285
<00:43:19.695>There <00:43:20.161>are <00:43:20.628>different <00:43:21.095>interests,

938
00:43:22.865 --> 00:43:27.805
<00:43:22.865>but, <00:43:22.992>um, <00:43:23.119>if <00:43:23.246>I <00:43:23.374>had <00:43:23.501>one <00:43:23.628>wish <00:43:23.755>that <00:43:23.883>we <00:43:24.010>all <00:43:24.137>really <00:43:24.265>understand

939
00:43:28.825 --> 00:43:33.165
<00:43:28.825>the <00:43:28.964>real <00:43:29.105>problems <00:43:29.245>of <00:43:29.384>the <00:43:29.524>future, <00:43:29.665>we <00:43:29.805>can <00:43:29.944>only <00:43:30.085>solve <00:43:30.225>together.

940
00:43:33.315 --> 00:43:37.365
<00:43:33.315>Yeah. <00:43:33.442>That's <00:43:33.569>a, <00:43:33.696>and <00:43:33.824>uh, <00:43:33.951>this, <00:43:34.078>this <00:43:34.205>is <00:43:34.333>very, <00:43:34.460>very <00:43:34.587>high <00:43:34.715>level.

941
00:43:37.365 --> 00:43:40.525
<00:43:37.365>Level. <00:43:37.520>Yeah. <00:43:37.676>But <00:43:37.831>really <00:43:37.987>this <00:43:38.142>is <00:43:38.298>something <00:43:38.453>that <00:43:38.609>really <00:43:38.765>Yeah.

942
00:43:40.915 --> 00:43:42.645
<00:43:40.915>Touches <00:43:41.615>me, <00:43:42.315>uh,

943
00:43:42.715 --> 00:43:46.325
<00:43:42.715>because, <00:43:42.915>uh, <00:43:43.115>it's <00:43:43.315>not <00:43:43.515>only <00:43:43.715>about <00:43:43.915>our <00:43:44.115>generation,

944
00:43:46.515 --> 00:43:48.125
<00:43:46.515>it's <00:43:46.795>also <00:43:47.075>about <00:43:47.355>the <00:43:47.634>next <00:43:47.915>generations.

945
00:43:48.425 --> 00:43:51.045
<00:43:48.425>And, <00:43:48.775>uh, <00:43:49.125>close <00:43:49.475>to <00:43:49.825>Christmas,

946
00:43:51.045 --> 00:43:53.445
<00:43:51.045>this <00:43:51.325>would <00:43:51.605>be <00:43:51.885>my <00:43:52.165>biggest <00:43:52.445>wish.

947
00:43:53.705 --> 00:43:55.725
<00:43:53.705>That's <00:43:53.860>a <00:43:54.016>really <00:43:54.171>good <00:43:54.327>one. <00:43:54.482>That's <00:43:54.638>a <00:43:54.793>really <00:43:54.949>good <00:43:55.105>one.

948
00:43:55.725 --> 00:43:58.525
<00:43:55.725>And <00:43:55.880>honestly, <00:43:56.036>I <00:43:56.191>can <00:43:56.347>nothing <00:43:56.502>add, <00:43:56.658>add <00:43:56.813>to <00:43:56.969>that <00:43:57.125>one

949
00:43:58.525 --> 00:44:01.165
<00:43:58.525>because, <00:43:58.700>uh, <00:43:58.875>it, <00:43:59.050>it <00:43:59.225>touches <00:43:59.400>my <00:43:59.575>heart <00:43:59.750>as <00:43:59.925>well.

950
00:44:01.425 --> 00:44:03.565
<00:44:01.425>Um, <00:44:01.775>I'm, <00:44:02.125>I'm <00:44:02.475>turning <00:44:02.825>becoming,

951
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<00:44:03.665>or <00:44:04.015>I'm <00:44:04.365>becoming <00:44:04.715>grandfather <00:44:05.065>first,

952
00:44:06.095 --> 00:44:07.725
<00:44:06.095>first <00:44:06.561>grandchild <00:44:07.028>next <00:44:07.495>year.

953
00:44:07.865 --> 00:44:10.045
<00:44:07.865>So <00:44:08.040>I'm <00:44:08.214>mean <00:44:08.390>the <00:44:08.564>wish <00:44:08.740>for <00:44:08.915>the <00:44:09.089>next <00:44:09.265>generation.

954
00:44:10.165 --> 00:44:12.445
<00:44:10.165>I <00:44:10.340>think <00:44:10.515>we <00:44:10.690>have <00:44:10.865>to <00:44:11.040>really <00:44:11.215>take <00:44:11.390>that <00:44:11.565>seriously.

955
00:44:14.085 --> 00:44:16.005
<00:44:14.085>Y <00:44:14.240>thank <00:44:14.396>you <00:44:14.551>very <00:44:14.707>much <00:44:14.862>for <00:44:15.018>your <00:44:15.173>time. <00:44:15.329>Thank <00:44:15.485>you.

956
00:44:16.015 --> 00:44:17.725
<00:44:16.015>Thank <00:44:16.214>you <00:44:16.415>for <00:44:16.615>having <00:44:16.815>us <00:44:17.015>here <00:44:17.214>in <00:44:17.415>Stukas.

957
00:44:17.775 --> 00:44:20.405
<00:44:17.775>Thank <00:44:17.950>you <00:44:18.125>for <00:44:18.300>bringing <00:44:18.475>this <00:44:18.650>track, <00:44:18.825>especially <00:44:19.000>for <00:44:19.175>us.

958
00:44:20.645 --> 00:44:23.685
<00:44:20.645>I <00:44:20.800>mean, <00:44:20.956>great <00:44:21.111>one. <00:44:21.267>And <00:44:21.422>I <00:44:21.578>really <00:44:21.733>enjoyed <00:44:21.889>the <00:44:22.045>conversation.

959
00:44:23.825 --> 00:44:25.885
<00:44:23.825>And, <00:44:23.980>uh, <00:44:24.136>thank <00:44:24.291>you <00:44:24.447>so <00:44:24.602>much <00:44:24.758>for <00:44:24.913>your <00:44:25.069>time. <00:44:25.225>Yeah,

960
00:44:25.885 --> 00:44:26.885
<00:44:25.885>Thank <00:44:26.110>you. <00:44:26.335>Pleasure. <00:44:26.560>It <00:44:26.785>was

961
00:44:26.885 --> 00:44:27.765
<00:44:26.885>a <00:44:27.149>pleasure. <00:44:27.413>Thank <00:44:27.676>you.