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383
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<00:19:52.245>or <00:19:52.445>three <00:19:52.645>people <00:19:52.844>that <00:19:53.044>probably <00:19:53.245>out, <00:19:53.445>uh, <00:19:53.645>suffering

384
00:19:56.305 --> 00:20:00.065
<00:19:56.305>with <00:19:56.445>autism, <00:19:56.585>they <00:19:56.725>do <00:19:56.865>not <00:19:57.005>want <00:19:57.145>to <00:19:57.285>sit <00:19:57.425>in <00:19:57.565>the <00:19:57.705>middle

385
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<00:20:00.085>of <00:20:00.326>the <00:20:00.567>group <00:20:00.808>of <00:20:01.049>these <00:20:01.291>people.

386
00:20:01.605 --> 00:20:04.665
<00:20:01.605>And <00:20:01.760>she <00:20:01.916>said <00:20:02.071>she's <00:20:02.227>always <00:20:02.382>planning <00:20:02.538>kind <00:20:02.693>of <00:20:02.849>small <00:20:03.005>areas

387
00:20:05.095 --> 00:20:08.225
<00:20:05.095>with <00:20:05.211>some <00:20:05.328>flowers <00:20:05.445>just <00:20:05.561>as <00:20:05.678>a, <00:20:05.795>as <00:20:05.911>a, <00:20:06.028>as <00:20:06.145>a <00:20:06.261>kind <00:20:06.378>of <00:20:06.495>a,

388
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<00:20:08.505>a <00:20:08.805>barrier <00:20:09.105>in <00:20:09.405>between.

389
00:20:09.725 --> 00:20:11.225
<00:20:09.725>So <00:20:10.175>it's <00:20:10.625>low <00:20:11.074>flowers,

390
00:20:11.725 --> 00:20:14.665
<00:20:11.725>and <00:20:11.865>then <00:20:12.004>they <00:20:12.145>have <00:20:12.284>got <00:20:12.425>extra <00:20:12.564>space <00:20:12.705>for, <00:20:12.844>for <00:20:12.985>this <00:20:13.125>kind

391
00:20:14.665 --> 00:20:18.025
<00:20:14.665>of <00:20:14.820>team <00:20:14.976>members <00:20:15.131>that <00:20:15.287>the <00:20:15.442>feel <00:20:15.598>that <00:20:15.753>they <00:20:15.909>have <00:20:16.065>still,

392
00:20:18.025 --> 00:20:21.385
<00:20:18.025>they <00:20:18.180>have <00:20:18.336>the <00:20:18.491>secure <00:20:18.647>place, <00:20:18.802>but <00:20:18.958>they <00:20:19.113>part <00:20:19.269>of <00:20:19.425>it,

393
00:20:21.565 --> 00:20:23.105
<00:20:21.565>but <00:20:21.796>not <00:20:22.027>in <00:20:22.258>the <00:20:22.489>middle <00:20:22.720>of <00:20:22.951>it.

394
00:20:23.245 --> 00:20:25.345
<00:20:23.245>So <00:20:23.478>that <00:20:23.711>was <00:20:23.945>how <00:20:24.178>she <00:20:24.411>explained <00:20:24.645>it.

395
00:20:25.885 --> 00:20:28.705
<00:20:25.885>And <00:20:26.235>is <00:20:26.585>there <00:20:26.935>simple <00:20:27.285>ideas

396
00:20:28.855 --> 00:20:30.905
<00:20:28.855>that <00:20:29.135>could <00:20:29.415>be <00:20:29.695>implemented <00:20:29.975>quickly <00:20:30.255>just

397
00:20:30.905 --> 00:20:33.745
<00:20:30.905>to <00:20:31.045>take <00:20:31.185>care <00:20:31.325>if <00:20:31.465>I <00:20:31.605>have <00:20:31.745>team <00:20:31.885>members <00:20:32.024>that <00:20:32.165>have <00:20:32.305>H-H-D-H-S,

398
00:20:34.225 --> 00:20:36.865
<00:20:34.225>I <00:20:34.365>mean, <00:20:34.504>the <00:20:34.645>t's <00:20:34.784>pin <00:20:34.925>is <00:20:35.064>probably <00:20:35.205>already <00:20:35.344>a <00:20:35.485>good <00:20:35.625>solution

399
00:20:36.865 --> 00:20:40.705
<00:20:36.865>because <00:20:36.981>it <00:20:37.098>helps <00:20:37.215>to <00:20:37.331>get, <00:20:37.448>uh, <00:20:37.565>to <00:20:37.681>get, <00:20:37.798>uh, <00:20:37.915>kind <00:20:38.031>of, <00:20:38.148>uh, <00:20:38.265>yeah,

400
00:20:40.845 --> 00:20:42.025
<00:20:40.845>to <00:20:41.022>solve <00:20:41.199>it <00:20:41.376>a <00:20:41.553>little <00:20:41.730>bit <00:20:41.907>better.

401
00:20:42.125 --> 00:20:43.665
<00:20:42.125>But <00:20:42.471>some, <00:20:42.818>some <00:20:43.164>more <00:20:43.511>ideas.

402
00:20:45.105 --> 00:20:48.725
<00:20:45.105>Could <00:20:45.305>you <00:20:45.505>try <00:20:45.705>help <00:20:45.905>focusing <00:20:46.105>your, <00:20:46.305>um <00:20:46.505>mm-hmm.

403
00:20:48.725 --> 00:20:51.245
<00:20:48.725>Or <00:20:49.004>directing, <00:20:49.284>uh, <00:20:49.564>directing <00:20:49.844>your <00:20:50.125>focus?

404
00:20:51.905 --> 00:20:56.125
<00:20:51.905>Um, <00:20:52.045>I <00:20:52.185>think <00:20:52.325>the, <00:20:52.465>the <00:20:52.605>biggest <00:20:52.745>thing <00:20:52.885>you, <00:20:53.024>uh, <00:20:53.165>have <00:20:53.305>to

405
00:20:57.235 --> 00:21:00.645
<00:20:57.235>have <00:20:57.375>at <00:20:57.514>the <00:20:57.655>back <00:20:57.794>of <00:20:57.935>your <00:20:58.074>mind <00:20:58.215>is <00:20:58.354>sensory, <00:20:58.495>uh, <00:20:58.635>issues.

406
00:21:00.645 --> 00:21:04.685
<00:21:00.645>Mm-hmm. <00:21:00.785>So <00:21:00.925>a <00:21:01.065>lot <00:21:01.205>of <00:21:01.345>you <00:21:01.485>divergent <00:21:01.625>have <00:21:01.764>the, <00:21:01.905>um, <00:21:02.045>problem

407
00:21:04.945 --> 00:21:08.125
<00:21:04.945>or <00:21:05.225>the <00:21:05.504>issue <00:21:05.784>that <00:21:06.064>they <00:21:06.345>have,

408
00:21:08.265 --> 00:21:10.565
<00:21:08.265>or <00:21:08.615>again, <00:21:08.965>all <00:21:09.315>the <00:21:09.665>sensors

409
00:21:10.625 --> 00:21:13.165
<00:21:10.625>and, <00:21:10.858>uh, <00:21:11.091>all <00:21:11.325>the, <00:21:11.558>uh, <00:21:11.791>sensories, <00:21:12.025>uh,

410
00:21:13.665 --> 00:21:15.605
<00:21:13.665>at <00:21:13.865>the <00:21:14.065>same <00:21:14.264>time <00:21:14.465>at <00:21:14.665>the <00:21:14.865>same <00:21:15.065>level.

411
00:21:15.985 --> 00:21:19.685
<00:21:15.985>Mm-hmm. <00:21:16.140>Um, <00:21:16.296>so <00:21:16.451>that's <00:21:16.607>why <00:21:16.762>I, <00:21:16.918>uh, <00:21:17.073>talked <00:21:17.229>about <00:21:17.385>focus

412
00:21:19.785 --> 00:21:21.445
<00:21:19.785>or, <00:21:20.485>uh, <00:21:21.185>yeah.

413
00:21:22.545 --> 00:21:25.215
<00:21:22.545>Um, <00:21:22.895>how <00:21:23.245>you <00:21:23.595>call <00:21:23.945>it.

414
00:21:25.315 --> 00:21:29.575
<00:21:25.315>Um, <00:21:25.781>no, <00:21:26.248>I'm <00:21:26.715>gone.

415
00:21:29.915 --> 00:21:34.775
<00:21:29.915>Um, <00:21:30.042>uh, <00:21:30.169>no <00:21:30.296>focus <00:21:30.424>rooms. <00:21:30.551>Yes. <00:21:30.678>And, <00:21:30.805>uh, <00:21:30.933>what's <00:21:31.060>the <00:21:31.187>other <00:21:31.315>term?

416
00:21:34.915 --> 00:21:36.655
<00:21:34.915>Uh, <00:21:35.381>so <00:21:35.848>silence. <00:21:36.315>Yeah.

417
00:21:36.755 --> 00:21:40.655
<00:21:36.755>So, <00:21:36.895>um, <00:21:37.035>that <00:21:37.175>you <00:21:37.315>have <00:21:37.455>space <00:21:37.595>where <00:21:37.735>you <00:21:37.875>can <00:21:38.015>just, <00:21:38.155>uh,

418
00:21:40.925 --> 00:21:42.935
<00:21:40.925>rearrange <00:21:41.274>your, <00:21:41.625>uh, <00:21:41.975>nervous <00:21:42.325>system.

419
00:21:43.005 --> 00:21:44.815
<00:21:43.005>This <00:21:43.355>is <00:21:43.705>something. <00:21:44.055>Mm-hmm. <00:21:44.405>Um,

420
00:21:46.275 --> 00:21:50.815
<00:21:46.275>and <00:21:46.415>on <00:21:46.555>the <00:21:46.695>other <00:21:46.835>hand <00:21:46.975>is <00:21:47.115>that <00:21:47.255>you <00:21:47.395>can <00:21:47.535>offer <00:21:47.675>parts

421
00:21:50.945 --> 00:21:54.335
<00:21:50.945>where <00:21:51.120>this <00:21:51.294>is <00:21:51.470>something, <00:21:51.645>uh, <00:21:51.820>the <00:21:51.995>architecture, <00:21:52.169>uh, <00:21:52.345>said

422
00:21:54.355 --> 00:21:56.375
<00:21:54.355>as <00:21:54.635>well, <00:21:54.915>that <00:21:55.195>you <00:21:55.475>come <00:21:55.755>together,

423
00:21:56.755 --> 00:22:00.455
<00:21:56.755>but <00:21:56.955>still <00:21:57.155>have <00:21:57.355>some <00:21:57.555>kind <00:21:57.755>of <00:21:57.955>separation <00:21:58.155>mm-hmm.

424
00:22:00.535 --> 00:22:04.855
<00:22:00.535>That <00:22:00.735>you, <00:22:00.935>uh, <00:22:01.135>don't <00:22:01.335>feel <00:22:01.535>exposed. <00:22:01.735>So <00:22:01.935>yeah.

425
00:22:05.545 --> 00:22:07.935
<00:22:05.545>Maybe <00:22:05.825>did <00:22:06.105>that <00:22:06.385>answer <00:22:06.665>your <00:22:06.945>question?

426
00:22:08.395 --> 00:22:09.495
<00:22:08.395>Yes, <00:22:08.642>of <00:22:08.889>course. <00:22:09.137>Yeah. <00:22:09.385>Yeah.

427
00:22:09.815 --> 00:22:11.455
<00:22:09.815>I <00:22:09.970>mean, <00:22:10.126>it's, <00:22:10.281>it's, <00:22:10.437>it's, <00:22:10.592>I <00:22:10.748>think <00:22:10.903>it's, <00:22:11.059>it's, <00:22:11.215>it's,

428
00:22:11.455 --> 00:22:14.295
<00:22:11.455>it's <00:22:11.655>such <00:22:11.855>an, <00:22:12.054>it's <00:22:12.254>such <00:22:12.455>an <00:22:12.655>important <00:22:12.855>topic

429
00:22:14.395 --> 00:22:17.535
<00:22:14.395>and <00:22:14.570>it's <00:22:14.745>such <00:22:14.920>a <00:22:15.095>kind <00:22:15.270>of <00:22:15.445>a <00:22:15.620>probably, <00:22:15.795>uh,

430
00:22:18.165 --> 00:22:20.095
<00:22:18.165>unexperienced <00:22:18.445>story <00:22:18.725>for <00:22:19.004>most <00:22:19.284>of <00:22:19.565>us.

431
00:22:20.375 --> 00:22:23.255
<00:22:20.375>I <00:22:20.502>mean, <00:22:20.629>uh, <00:22:20.756>if, <00:22:20.884>if <00:22:21.011>you <00:22:21.138>don't <00:22:21.265>have <00:22:21.393>it <00:22:21.520>in <00:22:21.647>your <00:22:21.775>family,

432
00:22:23.695 --> 00:22:26.335
<00:22:23.695>I <00:22:23.870>think <00:22:24.044>you <00:22:24.220>are <00:22:24.395>normally <00:22:24.570>not, <00:22:24.745>not <00:22:24.919>in <00:22:25.095>contact

433
00:22:26.445 --> 00:22:27.695
<00:22:26.445>with <00:22:26.726>these <00:22:27.007>kind <00:22:27.288>of <00:22:27.570>things.

434
00:22:27.755 --> 00:22:30.615
<00:22:27.755>And, <00:22:27.910>uh, <00:22:28.066>I <00:22:28.221>think <00:22:28.377>that <00:22:28.532>always <00:22:28.688>makes <00:22:28.843>it <00:22:28.999>extremely <00:22:29.155>difficult

435
00:22:30.615 --> 00:22:34.415
<00:22:30.615>because <00:22:30.790>I <00:22:30.965>think <00:22:31.140>no <00:22:31.315>one <00:22:31.490>is <00:22:31.665>against <00:22:31.840>understanding <00:22:32.015>others,

436
00:22:34.635 --> 00:22:36.495
<00:22:34.635>but <00:22:34.835>it, <00:22:35.035>it's <00:22:35.235>a <00:22:35.435>kind <00:22:35.635>of <00:22:35.835>a <00:22:36.035>communication.

437
00:22:36.635 --> 00:22:38.575
<00:22:36.635>You <00:22:36.915>need <00:22:37.195>to <00:22:37.475>gather <00:22:37.754>some <00:22:38.035>experiences.

438
00:22:38.755 --> 00:22:40.215
<00:22:38.755>And <00:22:39.083>therefore, <00:22:39.412>I <00:22:39.740>think, <00:22:40.069>uh,

439
00:22:40.405 --> 00:22:42.455
<00:22:40.405>talking <00:22:40.638>about <00:22:40.871>this, <00:22:41.105>this <00:22:41.338>is <00:22:41.571>so <00:22:41.805>helpful.

440
00:22:42.715 --> 00:22:45.335
<00:22:42.715>If <00:22:42.889>there <00:22:43.064>are <00:22:43.240>really <00:22:43.415>two, <00:22:43.590>three <00:22:43.764>small <00:22:43.939>concrete <00:22:44.115>things

441
00:22:45.365 --> 00:22:47.775
<00:22:45.365>that <00:22:45.831>could <00:22:46.298>be <00:22:46.765>considered

442
00:22:47.835 --> 00:22:50.855
<00:22:47.835>and <00:22:48.010>discussed, <00:22:48.185>not <00:22:48.360>even <00:22:48.535>implemented <00:22:48.710>in <00:22:48.885>the <00:22:49.060>first <00:22:49.235>step,

443
00:22:50.995 --> 00:22:53.855
<00:22:50.995>but <00:22:51.169>considered <00:22:51.344>and <00:22:51.520>discussed <00:22:51.695>to <00:22:51.870>open <00:22:52.044>up <00:22:52.219>the <00:22:52.395>discussion

444
00:22:53.855 --> 00:22:57.375
<00:22:53.855>to <00:22:53.982>get <00:22:54.109>more <00:22:54.236>understanding <00:22:54.364>for <00:22:54.491>it, <00:22:54.618>then, <00:22:54.745>uh, <00:22:54.873>I <00:22:55.000>think <00:22:55.127>it, <00:22:55.255>it,

445
00:22:57.375 --> 00:22:58.935
<00:22:57.375>it, <00:22:57.655>it, <00:22:57.935>that's, <00:22:58.215>that's <00:22:58.495>really <00:22:58.775>helpful.

446
00:22:59.125 --> 00:23:02.415
<00:22:59.125>Yeah. <00:22:59.300>And <00:22:59.475>it, <00:22:59.650>it's, <00:22:59.825>it's <00:23:00.000>probably <00:23:00.175>small, <00:23:00.350>small <00:23:00.525>ideas

447
00:23:02.555 --> 00:23:05.255
<00:23:02.555>and <00:23:02.671>small <00:23:02.788>things <00:23:02.905>where, <00:23:03.021>and <00:23:03.138>I <00:23:03.255>mean, <00:23:03.371>I, <00:23:03.488>I <00:23:03.605>love <00:23:03.721>this <00:23:03.838>kind <00:23:03.955>of,

448
00:23:05.255 --> 00:23:08.695
<00:23:05.255>yeah, <00:23:05.382>it's <00:23:05.509>very <00:23:05.636>easy <00:23:05.764>to <00:23:05.891>implement <00:23:06.018>a <00:23:06.145>room <00:23:06.273>of <00:23:06.400>silence <00:23:06.527>in <00:23:06.655>a,

449
00:23:08.695 --> 00:23:11.415
<00:23:08.695>in <00:23:08.895>an <00:23:09.095>office <00:23:09.294>to <00:23:09.495>really <00:23:09.695>create <00:23:09.895>a <00:23:10.095>space

450
00:23:11.945 --> 00:23:15.535
<00:23:11.945>where <00:23:12.072>people <00:23:12.199>could <00:23:12.326>move <00:23:12.454>in <00:23:12.581>to <00:23:12.708>sort <00:23:12.835>to <00:23:12.963>sort <00:23:13.090>their <00:23:13.217>senses <00:23:13.345>and,

451
00:23:15.535 --> 00:23:18.455
<00:23:15.535>and <00:23:15.675>bring <00:23:15.815>them <00:23:15.955>back <00:23:16.095>to, <00:23:16.235>to, <00:23:16.375>to <00:23:16.515>the <00:23:16.655>level <00:23:16.795>which <00:23:16.935>we,

452
00:23:18.455 --> 00:23:19.855
<00:23:18.455>which <00:23:18.706>makes <00:23:18.959>it <00:23:19.211>possible <00:23:19.463>for <00:23:19.715>them

453
00:23:19.855 --> 00:23:22.335
<00:23:19.855>to <00:23:20.055>continue <00:23:20.255>working <00:23:20.455>them. <00:23:20.655>So <00:23:20.855>I <00:23:21.055>think <00:23:21.255>that's

454
00:23:22.365 --> 00:23:26.255
<00:23:22.365>Also <00:23:22.540>work <00:23:22.715>with <00:23:22.890>the, <00:23:23.065>the, <00:23:23.240>uh, <00:23:23.415>the <00:23:23.590>sensory <00:23:23.765>issues.

455
00:23:26.515 --> 00:23:31.455
<00:23:26.515>So, <00:23:26.690>um, <00:23:26.865>dimable <00:23:27.040>light, <00:23:27.215>um, <00:23:27.390>adjustable <00:23:27.565>heating, <00:23:27.740>stuff <00:23:27.915>like

456
00:23:31.455 --> 00:23:33.255
<00:23:31.455>that, <00:23:31.804>sometimes <00:23:32.155>not <00:23:32.504>very <00:23:32.855>easy

457
00:23:33.355 --> 00:23:37.615
<00:23:33.355>or, <00:23:33.588>uh, <00:23:33.821>price, <00:23:34.055>uh, <00:23:34.288>effortless, <00:23:34.521>uh, <00:23:34.755>to,

458
00:23:37.795 --> 00:23:39.895
<00:23:37.795>to <00:23:38.028>dive <00:23:38.261>in, <00:23:38.495>but <00:23:38.728>yeah. <00:23:38.961>Mm-hmm. <00:23:39.195>Very

459
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<00:23:39.895>Happy. <00:23:40.120>I <00:23:40.345>mean, <00:23:40.570>now, <00:23:40.795>now

460
00:23:40.895 --> 00:23:42.655
<00:23:40.895>I <00:23:41.050>think <00:23:41.206>now <00:23:41.361>we <00:23:41.517>are <00:23:41.672>coming <00:23:41.828>to <00:23:41.983>the, <00:23:42.139>to <00:23:42.295>to,

461
00:23:42.715 --> 00:23:47.165
<00:23:42.715>to, <00:23:42.842>to <00:23:42.969>the, <00:23:43.096>to <00:23:43.224>the <00:23:43.351>point, <00:23:43.478>so <00:23:43.605>what, <00:23:43.733>what <00:23:43.860>do <00:23:43.987>you <00:23:44.115>see

462
00:23:47.165 --> 00:23:48.965
<00:23:47.165>with <00:23:47.514>all <00:23:47.865>your <00:23:48.215>consulting <00:23:48.565>projects?

463
00:23:49.085 --> 00:23:50.765
<00:23:49.085>I <00:23:49.240>mean, <00:23:49.396>there's <00:23:49.551>a <00:23:49.707>kind <00:23:49.862>of <00:23:50.018>things <00:23:50.173>that <00:23:50.329>are <00:23:50.485>easy

464
00:23:50.785 --> 00:23:52.845
<00:23:50.785>to <00:23:50.985>implement <00:23:51.185>are <00:23:51.385>things <00:23:51.585>that <00:23:51.785>are <00:23:51.985>very <00:23:52.185>difficult

465
00:23:52.845 --> 00:23:55.645
<00:23:52.845>to <00:23:53.020>implement, <00:23:53.195>are <00:23:53.370>things <00:23:53.545>that <00:23:53.720>cost <00:23:53.895>nothing <00:23:54.070>to <00:23:54.245>implement,

466
00:23:55.665 --> 00:23:57.405
<00:23:55.665>are <00:23:55.865>things <00:23:56.065>that <00:23:56.264>are <00:23:56.465>very <00:23:56.665>expensive <00:23:56.865>to <00:23:57.065>implement.

467
00:23:57.705 --> 00:24:00.485
<00:23:57.705>And, <00:23:57.845>and <00:23:57.985>I <00:23:58.125>think, <00:23:58.264>uh, <00:23:58.405>it, <00:23:58.544>it's <00:23:58.685>always <00:23:58.824>easy <00:23:58.965>to <00:23:59.105>go

468
00:24:00.485 --> 00:24:02.645
<00:24:00.485>to <00:24:00.640>the <00:24:00.796>managers <00:24:00.951>and <00:24:01.107>say, <00:24:01.262>okay, <00:24:01.418>we <00:24:01.573>have <00:24:01.729>this <00:24:01.885>topic.

469
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<00:24:02.705>We <00:24:02.967>want <00:24:03.230>to <00:24:03.493>address <00:24:03.756>this <00:24:04.019>topic.

470
00:24:04.225 --> 00:24:05.765
<00:24:04.225>We <00:24:04.456>want <00:24:04.687>to <00:24:04.918>face <00:24:05.149>this <00:24:05.380>topic <00:24:05.611>now,

471
00:24:06.145 --> 00:24:07.925
<00:24:06.145>and <00:24:06.378>this <00:24:06.611>is <00:24:06.845>probably <00:24:07.078>two, <00:24:07.311>three <00:24:07.545>ideas,

472
00:24:07.935 --> 00:24:09.605
<00:24:07.935>which <00:24:08.215>could <00:24:08.495>be <00:24:08.774>implemented <00:24:09.054>with <00:24:09.335>nothing.

473
00:24:09.715 --> 00:24:12.285
<00:24:09.715>Yeah. <00:24:09.995>Probably <00:24:10.274>we <00:24:10.554>need <00:24:10.834>some <00:24:11.115>time

474
00:24:12.385 --> 00:24:14.725
<00:24:12.385>or <00:24:12.585>we <00:24:12.785>need <00:24:12.985>an, <00:24:13.185>uh, <00:24:13.385>yeah, <00:24:13.585>demoable <00:24:13.785>light.

475
00:24:14.805 --> 00:24:16.325
<00:24:14.805>I <00:24:15.078>mean, <00:24:15.352>demoable <00:24:15.625>light <00:24:15.899>with, <00:24:16.173>with,

476
00:24:16.325 --> 00:24:19.085
<00:24:16.325>with <00:24:16.465>LED <00:24:16.605>light <00:24:16.745>in <00:24:16.885>offices <00:24:17.025>is <00:24:17.165>normally <00:24:17.305>no <00:24:17.445>really <00:24:17.585>big <00:24:17.725>issue.

477
00:24:19.085 --> 00:24:21.205
<00:24:19.085>Yeah. <00:24:19.318>So <00:24:19.551>it's, <00:24:19.785>uh, <00:24:20.018>changing <00:24:20.251>the <00:24:20.485>switches

478
00:24:21.235 --> 00:24:23.645
<00:24:21.235>that <00:24:21.409>costs <00:24:21.584>probably <00:24:21.760>costs <00:24:21.935>nothing, <00:24:22.110>but <00:24:22.284>brings <00:24:22.459>a <00:24:22.635>lot.

479
00:24:24.345 --> 00:24:26.605
<00:24:24.345>So, <00:24:24.500>and, <00:24:24.656>and <00:24:24.811>that <00:24:24.967>was <00:24:25.122>what, <00:24:25.278>what <00:24:25.433>I'm <00:24:25.589>looking <00:24:25.745>for.

480
00:24:27.025 --> 00:24:30.195
<00:24:27.025>So, <00:24:27.225>uh, <00:24:27.425>let's <00:24:27.625>come <00:24:27.825>back <00:24:28.025>to <00:24:28.225>a <00:24:28.425>topic,

481
00:24:30.245 --> 00:24:32.995
<00:24:30.245>which <00:24:30.419>I <00:24:30.594>think <00:24:30.770>is <00:24:30.945>probably <00:24:31.120>the <00:24:31.294>most <00:24:31.469>difficult <00:24:31.645>one,

482
00:24:32.995 --> 00:24:34.955
<00:24:32.995>because <00:24:33.228>trust <00:24:33.461>can't <00:24:33.695>build <00:24:33.928>up <00:24:34.161>like <00:24:34.395>an,

483
00:24:35.145 --> 00:24:36.195
<00:24:35.145>like, <00:24:35.381>like <00:24:35.617>a <00:24:35.853>light <00:24:36.090>switch.

484
00:24:36.335 --> 00:24:39.235
<00:24:36.335>So <00:24:36.510>building <00:24:36.685>up <00:24:36.860>trust <00:24:37.035>in <00:24:37.210>an <00:24:37.385>organization <00:24:37.560>is <00:24:37.735>normally,

485
00:24:39.595 --> 00:24:41.035
<00:24:39.595>I <00:24:39.919>think, <00:24:40.243>very, <00:24:40.567>very <00:24:40.891>difficult.

486
00:24:41.895 --> 00:24:45.635
<00:24:41.895>So, <00:24:42.035>and <00:24:42.175>I <00:24:42.315>think <00:24:42.455>psychological <00:24:42.595>safety <00:24:42.735>has <00:24:42.875>a <00:24:43.014>lot <00:24:43.155>to <00:24:43.295>do,

487
00:24:46.015 --> 00:24:48.395
<00:24:46.015>and <00:24:46.170>safe <00:24:46.326>space <00:24:46.481>has <00:24:46.637>a <00:24:46.792>lot <00:24:46.948>to <00:24:47.103>do <00:24:47.259>with <00:24:47.415>trust.

488
00:24:49.775 --> 00:24:52.755
<00:24:49.775>How <00:24:49.975>could <00:24:50.175>companies <00:24:50.375>start <00:24:50.575>building <00:24:50.775>up <00:24:50.975>the <00:24:51.175>trust

489
00:24:53.335 --> 00:24:57.295
<00:24:53.335>and <00:24:53.490>not <00:24:53.646>having <00:24:53.801>it <00:24:53.957>as <00:24:54.112>a, <00:24:54.268>as <00:24:54.423>a <00:24:54.579>buzz <00:24:54.735>word?

490
00:24:57.435 --> 00:24:59.935
<00:24:57.435>So <00:24:57.635>I <00:24:57.835>think, <00:24:58.034>um, <00:24:58.235>I <00:24:58.435>have <00:24:58.635>a <00:24:58.835>t-shirt

491
00:25:00.055 --> 00:25:02.095
<00:25:00.055>where <00:25:00.288>I <00:25:00.521>say <00:25:00.755>inclusion <00:25:00.988>is <00:25:01.221>no <00:25:01.455>trend.

492
00:25:02.295 --> 00:25:03.615
<00:25:02.295>I <00:25:02.592>think <00:25:02.889>it's <00:25:03.186>mindset. <00:25:03.483>Yeah.

493
00:25:04.355 --> 00:25:06.495
<00:25:04.355>And <00:25:04.588>I'm <00:25:04.821>wearing, <00:25:05.055>wearing <00:25:05.288>that <00:25:05.521>on <00:25:05.755>stage.

494
00:25:06.595 --> 00:25:08.135
<00:25:06.595>But <00:25:06.872>I <00:25:07.149>mean, <00:25:07.426>changing <00:25:07.703>a <00:25:07.981>mindset

495
00:25:09.155 --> 00:25:12.345
<00:25:09.155>and <00:25:09.504>making <00:25:09.855>the <00:25:10.205>other <00:25:10.555>know

496
00:25:12.405 --> 00:25:14.465
<00:25:12.405>and <00:25:12.638>belief <00:25:12.871>that <00:25:13.105>it's <00:25:13.338>a <00:25:13.571>mindset <00:25:13.805>now

497
00:25:14.525 --> 00:25:16.225
<00:25:14.525>and <00:25:14.805>not <00:25:15.085>just <00:25:15.365>the <00:25:15.645>term <00:25:15.925>Yeah.

498
00:25:16.805 --> 00:25:19.585
<00:25:16.805>Is, <00:25:17.005>is <00:25:17.205>takes <00:25:17.405>time <00:25:17.605>and <00:25:17.805>is <00:25:18.005>extremely <00:25:18.205>difficult.

499
00:25:19.725 --> 00:25:24.105
<00:25:19.725>So <00:25:19.865>what <00:25:20.004>is <00:25:20.145>needed <00:25:20.284>to, <00:25:20.425>to <00:25:20.564>implement <00:25:20.705>that <00:25:20.844>as <00:25:20.985>the <00:25:21.125>very,

500
00:25:24.135 --> 00:25:26.105
<00:25:24.135>very <00:25:24.335>first <00:25:24.535>thing, <00:25:24.735>because <00:25:24.935>I <00:25:25.135>think <00:25:25.335>it's, <00:25:25.535>honestly,

501
00:25:26.105 --> 00:25:27.265
<00:25:26.105>it's <00:25:26.366>the <00:25:26.627>most <00:25:26.888>important <00:25:27.149>thing.

502
00:25:27.265 --> 00:25:31.105
<00:25:27.265>If <00:25:27.381>you <00:25:27.498>don't <00:25:27.615>open <00:25:27.731>up <00:25:27.848>this <00:25:27.965>kind <00:25:28.081>of <00:25:28.198>area, <00:25:28.315>if <00:25:28.431>you <00:25:28.548>don't <00:25:28.665>build,

503
00:25:31.405 --> 00:25:33.665
<00:25:31.405>uh, <00:25:31.532>if <00:25:31.659>you're <00:25:31.786>not <00:25:31.914>able <00:25:32.041>to <00:25:32.168>build <00:25:32.295>this <00:25:32.423>safe <00:25:32.550>space, <00:25:32.677>I <00:25:32.805>think,

504
00:25:33.765 --> 00:25:36.865
<00:25:33.765>uh, <00:25:33.940>whatever <00:25:34.115>you <00:25:34.290>do <00:25:34.465>later <00:25:34.640>on <00:25:34.815>seems <00:25:34.990>like <00:25:35.165>a

505
00:25:36.985 --> 00:25:38.185
<00:25:36.985>marketing <00:25:38.065>campaign.

506
00:25:38.915 --> 00:25:42.945
<00:25:38.915>Definitely. <00:25:39.115>I <00:25:39.315>think, <00:25:39.514>um, <00:25:39.715>one <00:25:39.915>way <00:25:40.115>is <00:25:40.315>to

507
00:25:43.525 --> 00:25:46.345
<00:25:43.525>always <00:25:43.875>remember, <00:25:44.225>uh, <00:25:44.575>your <00:25:44.925>opponent

508
00:25:46.775 --> 00:25:48.625
<00:25:46.775>that <00:25:47.475>there <00:25:48.175>Yeah.

509
00:25:48.975 --> 00:25:51.065
<00:25:48.975>That <00:25:49.175>their <00:25:49.375>thinking <00:25:49.574>is <00:25:49.774>not <00:25:49.975>the <00:25:50.175>only <00:25:50.375>way,

510
00:25:51.485 --> 00:25:53.945
<00:25:51.485>and <00:25:51.718>that <00:25:51.951>there <00:25:52.185>are <00:25:52.418>multiple <00:25:52.651>ways <00:25:52.885>outside

511
00:25:54.245 --> 00:25:58.225
<00:25:54.245>and <00:25:54.400>there, <00:25:54.556>uh, <00:25:54.711>the <00:25:54.867>same <00:25:55.022>legit <00:25:55.178>as <00:25:55.333>the <00:25:55.489>their <00:25:55.645>own.

512
00:25:58.645 --> 00:26:01.625
<00:25:58.645>Uh, <00:25:58.878>I <00:25:59.111>think, <00:25:59.345>um, <00:25:59.578>this, <00:25:59.811>um, <00:26:00.045>switch

513
00:26:01.645 --> 00:26:06.625
<00:26:01.645>of <00:26:01.800>perspective <00:26:01.956>is <00:26:02.111>always <00:26:02.267>very <00:26:02.422>helpful <00:26:02.578>to <00:26:02.733>get, <00:26:02.889>um, <00:26:03.045>people

514
00:26:06.765 --> 00:26:11.185
<00:26:06.765>to <00:26:06.892>think <00:26:07.019>about <00:26:07.146>and, <00:26:07.274>uh, <00:26:07.401>yeah, <00:26:07.528>to <00:26:07.655>have <00:26:07.783>more <00:26:07.910>trust <00:26:08.037>in, <00:26:08.165>uh,

515
00:26:11.405 --> 00:26:15.465
<00:26:11.405>the <00:26:11.605>opponent <00:26:11.805>of <00:26:12.004>their <00:26:12.205>discussion <00:26:12.405>or, <00:26:12.605>uh, <00:26:12.805>whatever.

516
00:26:17.805 --> 00:26:22.085
<00:26:17.805>Uh, <00:26:17.912>if <00:26:18.020>you <00:26:18.128>want, <00:26:18.235>if <00:26:18.343>you <00:26:18.451>need <00:26:18.558>to <00:26:18.666>sell <00:26:18.774>it, <00:26:18.881>if <00:26:18.989>you <00:26:19.097>need <00:26:19.205>to,

517
00:26:22.085 --> 00:26:23.925
<00:26:22.085>let, <00:26:22.285>let, <00:26:22.485>let's <00:26:22.685>come <00:26:22.885>to <00:26:23.085>the, <00:26:23.285>to, <00:26:23.485>to,

518
00:26:24.025 --> 00:26:25.405
<00:26:24.025>to <00:26:24.439>shareholder <00:26:24.853>the <00:26:25.267>value

519
00:26:25.545 --> 00:26:28.925
<00:26:25.545>and <00:26:25.700>to, <00:26:25.856>I <00:26:26.011>mean, <00:26:26.167>that's <00:26:26.322>probably <00:26:26.478>you, <00:26:26.633>you <00:26:26.789>know <00:26:26.945>how

520
00:26:28.925 --> 00:26:31.165
<00:26:28.925>to <00:26:29.080>argument <00:26:29.236>that <00:26:29.391>because <00:26:29.547>I, <00:26:29.702>I, <00:26:29.858>I <00:26:30.013>think <00:26:30.169>there's <00:26:30.325>no,

521
00:26:31.345 --> 00:26:33.885
<00:26:31.345>no <00:26:31.485>no <00:26:31.625>company <00:26:31.765>out <00:26:31.905>there <00:26:32.045>that <00:26:32.185>won't <00:26:32.325>ask <00:26:32.465>you <00:26:32.605>the <00:26:32.745>question.

522
00:26:34.035 --> 00:26:36.365
<00:26:34.035>Okay, <00:26:34.268>if <00:26:34.501>we <00:26:34.735>invest <00:26:34.968>some <00:26:35.201>money <00:26:35.435>there,

523
00:26:36.465 --> 00:26:38.525
<00:26:36.465>if <00:26:36.698>we <00:26:36.931>invest <00:26:37.165>money <00:26:37.398>in <00:26:37.631>the <00:26:37.865>consulting

524
00:26:38.545 --> 00:26:41.765
<00:26:38.545>and <00:26:38.685>in <00:26:38.825>the <00:26:38.965>implementation <00:26:39.105>of <00:26:39.245>what, <00:26:39.385>what <00:26:39.525>you <00:26:39.665>bring <00:26:39.805>up, <00:26:39.945>uh,

525
00:26:42.095 --> 00:26:44.485
<00:26:42.095>later <00:26:42.295>on, <00:26:42.495>what's, <00:26:42.695>what's <00:26:42.895>in <00:26:43.095>it <00:26:43.295>for <00:26:43.495>us?

526
00:26:44.905 --> 00:26:47.885
<00:26:44.905>So <00:26:45.080>have <00:26:45.254>you <00:26:45.430>got <00:26:45.605>any <00:26:45.780>idea <00:26:45.955>of <00:26:46.129>business <00:26:46.305>value?

527
00:26:48.035 --> 00:26:50.365
<00:26:48.035>Have <00:26:48.190>you <00:26:48.346>got <00:26:48.501>any <00:26:48.657>idea <00:26:48.812>of <00:26:48.968>what <00:26:49.123>happens <00:26:49.279>if <00:26:49.435>not?

528
00:26:51.645 --> 00:26:55.595
<00:26:51.645>There <00:26:51.785>are <00:26:51.925>definitely <00:26:52.065>some <00:26:52.205>ROI, <00:26:52.345>uh, <00:26:52.485>when <00:26:52.625>you <00:26:52.764>look <00:26:52.905>at <00:26:53.045>the,

529
00:26:55.815 --> 00:27:00.155
<00:26:55.815>the <00:26:55.990>scientific, <00:26:56.165>um, <00:26:56.340>papers, <00:26:56.515>for <00:26:56.690>instance, <00:26:56.865>we <00:26:57.040>have, <00:26:57.215>uh,

530
00:27:00.715 --> 00:27:05.395
<00:27:00.715>Microsoft, <00:27:00.915>Deloitte, <00:27:01.115>or, <00:27:01.314>uh, <00:27:01.514>SAP <00:27:01.715>and, <00:27:01.915>uh, <00:27:02.115>Google.

531
00:27:05.655 --> 00:27:07.035
<00:27:05.655>Mm-hmm. <00:27:06.069>They <00:27:06.483>were, <00:27:06.897>uh,

532
00:27:07.575 --> 00:27:09.915
<00:27:07.575>scientifically <00:27:07.925>looking <00:27:08.275>deeper <00:27:08.625>into <00:27:08.975>that.

533
00:27:10.135 --> 00:27:13.675
<00:27:10.135>Mm-hmm. <00:27:10.290>And <00:27:10.446>they <00:27:10.601>come <00:27:10.757>up <00:27:10.912>with, <00:27:11.068>uh, <00:27:11.223>Microsoft, <00:27:11.379>for <00:27:11.535>instance,

534
00:27:14.015 --> 00:27:15.675
<00:27:14.015>uh, <00:27:14.715>40, <00:27:15.415>uh,

535
00:27:16.055 --> 00:27:20.035
<00:27:16.055>22% <00:27:16.335>higher <00:27:16.615>retention <00:27:16.895>rate, <00:27:17.175>uh <00:27:17.455>mm-hmm.

536
00:27:20.115 --> 00:27:24.235
<00:27:20.115>After <00:27:20.348>implementing <00:27:20.581>neuro <00:27:20.815>inclusive, <00:27:21.048>uh, <00:27:21.281>processes, <00:27:21.515>uh,

537
00:27:24.415 --> 00:27:26.755
<00:27:24.415>we <00:27:24.648>also <00:27:24.881>have, <00:27:25.115>uh, <00:27:25.348>the <00:27:25.581>biggest <00:27:25.815>number

538
00:27:26.825 --> 00:27:28.915
<00:27:26.825>with <00:27:27.291>30% <00:27:27.758>more <00:27:28.225>productive.

539
00:27:29.135 --> 00:27:30.315
<00:27:29.135>Mm-hmm. <00:27:30.197>Uh,

540
00:27:31.055 --> 00:27:35.395
<00:27:31.055>and, <00:27:31.335>um, <00:27:31.615>yeah, <00:27:31.895>20% <00:27:32.175>more <00:27:32.455>innovation.

541
00:27:35.735 --> 00:27:38.995
<00:27:35.735>So <00:27:35.935>what <00:27:36.135>kind <00:27:36.334>of <00:27:36.534>company <00:27:36.735>doesn't <00:27:36.935>want <00:27:37.135>that?

542
00:27:41.735 --> 00:27:43.635
<00:27:41.735>Um, <00:27:43.135>yeah.

543
00:27:43.835 --> 00:27:48.355
<00:27:43.835>I <00:27:44.115>mean, <00:27:44.395>uh, <00:27:44.675>uh, <00:27:44.955>what, <00:27:45.235>what,

544
00:27:49.015 --> 00:27:53.245
<00:27:49.015>what's <00:27:49.170>the, <00:27:49.326>the, <00:27:49.481>the <00:27:49.637>biggest, <00:27:49.792>the, <00:27:49.948>I <00:27:50.103>think <00:27:50.259>the <00:27:50.415>biggest

545
00:27:53.755 --> 00:27:55.645
<00:27:53.755>barrier <00:27:54.035>that <00:27:54.315>you <00:27:54.595>feel <00:27:54.875>if <00:27:55.155>you,

546
00:27:55.665 --> 00:27:58.405
<00:27:55.665>if <00:27:55.840>you're <00:27:56.014>approaching <00:27:56.190>new <00:27:56.365>customers, <00:27:56.540>if <00:27:56.715>you're <00:27:56.889>coming <00:27:57.065>to,

547
00:27:58.485 --> 00:28:00.605
<00:27:58.485>to <00:27:58.685>clients, <00:27:58.885>I <00:27:59.084>mean, <00:27:59.284>I <00:27:59.485>think <00:27:59.685>you're <00:27:59.885>doing,

548
00:28:00.965 --> 00:28:02.285
<00:28:00.965>probably <00:28:01.202>you're <00:28:01.440>doing <00:28:01.677>acquisition <00:28:01.915>as <00:28:02.153>well.

549
00:28:02.405 --> 00:28:04.725
<00:28:02.405>I <00:28:02.605>mean, <00:28:02.805>everyone <00:28:03.004>has <00:28:03.205>to <00:28:03.405>do <00:28:03.605>probably <00:28:03.805>acquisition,

550
00:28:04.865 --> 00:28:06.325
<00:28:04.865>we <00:28:05.303>acquiring <00:28:05.741>new <00:28:06.179>customers.

551
00:28:06.915 --> 00:28:09.165
<00:28:06.915>What, <00:28:07.195>what <00:28:07.475>is <00:28:07.754>your <00:28:08.034>entry <00:28:08.315>statement,

552
00:28:09.955 --> 00:28:11.525
<00:28:09.955>without <00:28:10.304>telling <00:28:10.655>too <00:28:11.004>much <00:28:11.355>secrets,

553
00:28:11.545 --> 00:28:14.125
<00:28:11.545>but <00:28:11.720>how <00:28:11.895>do <00:28:12.070>you, <00:28:12.245>how, <00:28:12.420>how <00:28:12.595>do <00:28:12.770>you <00:28:12.945>grab,

554
00:28:14.545 --> 00:28:16.125
<00:28:14.545>how <00:28:14.825>do <00:28:15.105>you <00:28:15.385>grab <00:28:15.665>customers <00:28:15.945>attention?

555
00:28:16.785 --> 00:28:18.165
<00:28:16.785>What's <00:28:17.199>the, <00:28:17.613>the <00:28:18.027>key,

556
00:28:18.265 --> 00:28:20.525
<00:28:18.265>what's <00:28:18.440>the <00:28:18.615>key <00:28:18.790>door <00:28:18.965>opener <00:28:19.140>and <00:28:19.315>what's <00:28:19.490>the <00:28:19.665>argument

557
00:28:22.015 --> 00:28:23.015
<00:28:22.015>Right <00:28:22.915>now?

558
00:28:23.075 --> 00:28:27.205
<00:28:23.075>It's, <00:28:23.202>uh, <00:28:23.329>most <00:28:23.456>of <00:28:23.584>the <00:28:23.711>times <00:28:23.838>when <00:28:23.965>I <00:28:24.093>talk <00:28:24.220>to <00:28:24.347>HR <00:28:24.475>professionals,

559
00:28:27.745 --> 00:28:30.085
<00:28:27.745>um, <00:28:27.900>and <00:28:28.056>I <00:28:28.211>tell <00:28:28.367>them <00:28:28.522>what <00:28:28.678>I <00:28:28.833>do <00:28:28.989>is <00:28:29.145>that,

560
00:28:30.305 --> 00:28:31.325
<00:28:30.305>oh, <00:28:30.534>I <00:28:30.764>heard <00:28:30.993>about <00:28:31.223>that.

561
00:28:31.395 --> 00:28:35.285
<00:28:31.395>Tell <00:28:31.511>me <00:28:31.628>more. <00:28:31.745>And <00:28:31.861>this <00:28:31.978>is <00:28:32.095>how <00:28:32.211>we <00:28:32.328>get, <00:28:32.445>uh, <00:28:32.561>into <00:28:32.678>a <00:28:32.795>discussion.

562
00:28:35.545 --> 00:28:38.365
<00:28:35.545>Mm-hmm. <00:28:35.825>And, <00:28:36.105>um, <00:28:36.385>then <00:28:36.665>they <00:28:36.945>usually,

563
00:28:39.605 --> 00:28:43.485
<00:28:39.605>everyone <00:28:39.745>somehow <00:28:39.885>has <00:28:40.025>a <00:28:40.165>contact <00:28:40.305>point, <00:28:40.445>uh, <00:28:40.585>even <00:28:40.725>as <00:28:40.865>it's, <00:28:41.005>uh,

564
00:28:43.515 --> 00:28:46.045
<00:28:43.515>just <00:28:43.795>social <00:28:44.075>media <00:28:44.355>or <00:28:44.635>personal <00:28:44.915>experience

565
00:28:46.105 --> 00:28:49.085
<00:28:46.105>or, <00:28:46.338>uh, <00:28:46.571>from <00:28:46.805>the <00:28:47.038>family, <00:28:47.271>uh, <00:28:47.505>background.

566
00:28:49.505 --> 00:28:52.925
<00:28:49.505>So <00:28:49.660>this <00:28:49.816>is <00:28:49.971>something, <00:28:50.127>um, <00:28:50.282>that <00:28:50.438>combines <00:28:50.593>each <00:28:50.749>and <00:28:50.905>everyone.

567
00:28:53.305 --> 00:28:57.925
<00:28:53.305>Mm-hmm. <00:28:53.432>And <00:28:53.559>then <00:28:53.686>we <00:28:53.814>start <00:28:53.941>from <00:28:54.068>there, <00:28:54.195>uh, <00:28:54.323>to <00:28:54.450>see, <00:28:54.577>okay, <00:28:54.705>um,

568
00:28:58.425 --> 00:29:01.165
<00:28:58.425>as <00:28:58.625>you <00:28:58.825>now <00:28:59.024>know <00:28:59.225>what <00:28:59.425>the <00:28:59.625>status <00:28:59.825>is

569
00:29:01.345 --> 00:29:05.285
<00:29:01.345>and <00:29:01.578>2015 <00:29:01.811>to <00:29:02.045>20% <00:29:02.278>of <00:29:02.511>the <00:29:02.745>world,

570
00:29:05.505 --> 00:29:08.325
<00:29:05.505>so <00:29:05.738>even <00:29:05.971>from <00:29:06.205>your <00:29:06.438>company <00:29:06.671>is <00:29:06.905>neurodivergent,

571
00:29:08.545 --> 00:29:12.125
<00:29:08.545>so <00:29:08.685>this <00:29:08.825>is <00:29:08.965>something <00:29:09.105>you <00:29:09.245>need <00:29:09.385>to, <00:29:09.525>uh, <00:29:09.665>consider, <00:29:09.805>uh <00:29:09.945>mm-hmm.

572
00:29:12.125 --> 00:29:13.565
<00:29:12.125>While <00:29:12.449>working <00:29:12.773>with <00:29:13.097>those <00:29:13.421>people.

573
00:29:14.265 --> 00:29:16.485
<00:29:14.265>And, <00:29:14.545>uh, <00:29:14.825>from <00:29:15.105>then <00:29:15.385>on, <00:29:15.665>yeah,

574
00:29:17.515 --> 00:29:19.805
<00:29:17.515>this <00:29:17.795>is <00:29:18.075>usually <00:29:18.355>the, <00:29:18.635>the <00:29:18.915>story.

575
00:29:20.345 --> 00:29:23.005
<00:29:20.345>Mm-hmm. <00:29:20.520>Uh, <00:29:20.695>I <00:29:20.870>mean, <00:29:21.045>if <00:29:21.220>you <00:29:21.395>look <00:29:21.570>on <00:29:21.745>the,

576
00:29:23.385 --> 00:29:24.885
<00:29:23.385>on <00:29:23.835>the <00:29:24.285>political <00:29:24.735>situation,

577
00:29:24.885 --> 00:29:27.005
<00:29:24.885>if <00:29:25.012>you <00:29:25.139>look <00:29:25.266>what's <00:29:25.394>going <00:29:25.521>on <00:29:25.648>all <00:29:25.775>over <00:29:25.903>the <00:29:26.030>place, <00:29:26.157>I <00:29:26.285>mean,

578
00:29:27.025 --> 00:29:30.725
<00:29:27.025>if <00:29:27.132>you <00:29:27.240>look <00:29:27.348>on <00:29:27.455>the <00:29:27.563>us, <00:29:27.671>I <00:29:27.778>mean, <00:29:27.886>a <00:29:27.994>lot <00:29:28.101>of <00:29:28.209>companies, <00:29:28.317>I <00:29:28.425>think

579
00:29:31.545 --> 00:29:33.725
<00:29:31.545>we <00:29:31.685>have <00:29:31.825>been <00:29:31.965>at <00:29:32.105>a <00:29:32.245>much <00:29:32.385>better <00:29:32.525>stage <00:29:32.665>if <00:29:32.805>it <00:29:32.945>comes

580
00:29:33.725 --> 00:29:35.085
<00:29:33.725>to <00:29:34.133>inclusion <00:29:34.541>and <00:29:34.949>diversity.

581
00:29:35.805 --> 00:29:37.725
<00:29:35.805>Probably <00:29:35.980>some <00:29:36.155>years <00:29:36.330>ago, <00:29:36.505>a <00:29:36.680>couple <00:29:36.855>of <00:29:37.030>years <00:29:37.205>ago,

582
00:29:37.845 --> 00:29:40.565
<00:29:37.845>I <00:29:38.000>think <00:29:38.156>there <00:29:38.311>was <00:29:38.467>a <00:29:38.622>big <00:29:38.778>broad <00:29:38.933>discussion, <00:29:39.089>a <00:29:39.245>lot

583
00:29:40.565 --> 00:29:43.805
<00:29:40.565>of <00:29:40.740>positive <00:29:40.915>mindset <00:29:41.090>on, <00:29:41.265>on, <00:29:41.440>on <00:29:41.615>solving <00:29:41.790>that <00:29:41.965>issue.

584
00:29:44.025 --> 00:29:46.365
<00:29:44.025>And <00:29:44.165>in <00:29:44.305>the <00:29:44.445>meantime, <00:29:44.585>I <00:29:44.725>have <00:29:44.865>a <00:29:45.005>little <00:29:45.145>bit <00:29:45.285>this <00:29:45.425>kind

585
00:29:46.365 --> 00:29:49.565
<00:29:46.365>of <00:29:46.505>impression <00:29:46.645>that <00:29:46.785>it <00:29:46.925>has <00:29:47.065>become <00:29:47.205>less <00:29:47.345>important <00:29:47.485>that <00:29:47.625>a <00:29:47.765>lot

586
00:29:49.565 --> 00:29:52.005
<00:29:49.565>of <00:29:49.740>companies <00:29:49.915>and <00:29:50.090>a <00:29:50.265>lot <00:29:50.440>of, <00:29:50.615>uh, <00:29:50.790>if <00:29:50.965>it,

587
00:29:52.105 --> 00:29:53.605
<00:29:52.105>if <00:29:52.375>it <00:29:52.645>just <00:29:52.915>listen <00:29:53.185>to <00:29:53.455>politicians.

588
00:29:53.765 --> 00:29:55.485
<00:29:53.765>I <00:29:53.965>mean, <00:29:54.165>uh, <00:29:54.365>I <00:29:54.565>think <00:29:54.765>we <00:29:54.965>are <00:29:55.165>sometimes,

589
00:29:55.565 --> 00:30:00.005
<00:29:55.565>I <00:29:55.692>really <00:29:55.819>think <00:29:55.946>we <00:29:56.074>are <00:29:56.201>going <00:29:56.328>five <00:29:56.455>steps <00:29:56.583>back <00:29:56.710>now <00:29:56.837>again, <00:29:56.965>uh,

590
00:30:00.425 --> 00:30:01.845
<00:30:00.425>what's <00:30:00.744>your <00:30:01.064>take <00:30:01.383>on <00:30:01.703>this?

591
00:30:02.065 --> 00:30:05.485
<00:30:02.065>Do <00:30:02.172>you <00:30:02.280>see <00:30:02.388>it's <00:30:02.495>a <00:30:02.603>backlash <00:30:02.711>or <00:30:02.818>are <00:30:02.926>we, <00:30:03.034>are <00:30:03.141>we <00:30:03.249>still <00:30:03.357>on <00:30:03.465>track

592
00:30:05.625 --> 00:30:07.925
<00:30:05.625>and <00:30:05.825>the <00:30:06.025>clever <00:30:06.225>ones <00:30:06.425>are <00:30:06.625>focusing <00:30:06.825>on <00:30:07.025>it

593
00:30:07.945 --> 00:30:09.205
<00:30:07.945>and <00:30:08.228>silly <00:30:08.512>ones <00:30:08.795>will <00:30:09.079>die?

594
00:30:10.445 --> 00:30:15.185
<00:30:10.445>Um, <00:30:10.572>probably <00:30:10.699>the <00:30:10.826>later, <00:30:10.954>but <00:30:11.081>in <00:30:11.208>the <00:30:11.335>end, <00:30:11.463>um, <00:30:11.590>I <00:30:11.717>don't <00:30:11.845>see,

595
00:30:15.485 --> 00:30:18.105
<00:30:15.485>or <00:30:15.685>I <00:30:15.885>think <00:30:16.084>we <00:30:16.284>don't <00:30:16.485>need <00:30:16.685>to <00:30:16.885>see,

596
00:30:18.245 --> 00:30:21.625
<00:30:18.245>or <00:30:18.400>we <00:30:18.556>don't <00:30:18.711>have <00:30:18.867>to <00:30:19.022>see, <00:30:19.178>uh, <00:30:19.333>neuro <00:30:19.489>inclusion <00:30:19.645>neurodiversity

597
00:30:21.885 --> 00:30:23.665
<00:30:21.885>as <00:30:22.235>a, <00:30:22.585>the <00:30:22.935>I <00:30:23.285>topic

598
00:30:23.695 --> 00:30:26.585
<00:30:23.695>because <00:30:23.850>it's <00:30:24.006>more <00:30:24.161>of <00:30:24.317>that, <00:30:24.472>uh, <00:30:24.628>uh, <00:30:24.783>it's <00:30:24.939>just <00:30:25.095>mm-hmm.

599
00:30:26.665 --> 00:30:31.385
<00:30:26.665>Like <00:30:26.865>I <00:30:27.065>said, <00:30:27.264>it's <00:30:27.465>a <00:30:27.665>business, <00:30:27.865>uh, <00:30:28.065>um,

600
00:30:31.665 --> 00:30:33.425
<00:30:31.665>business <00:30:31.898>decision <00:30:32.131>you <00:30:32.365>need <00:30:32.598>to <00:30:32.831>do, <00:30:33.065>uh,

601
00:30:33.425 --> 00:30:37.905
<00:30:33.425>and <00:30:33.580>you <00:30:33.736>need <00:30:33.891>to <00:30:34.047>make, <00:30:34.202>um, <00:30:34.358>because <00:30:34.513>it's <00:30:34.669>already <00:30:34.825>there,

602
00:30:38.085 --> 00:30:41.425
<00:30:38.085>and <00:30:38.260>if <00:30:38.435>you <00:30:38.610>don't, <00:30:38.785>uh, <00:30:38.960>consider <00:30:39.135>it <00:30:39.310>as <00:30:39.485>important,

603
00:30:41.895 --> 00:30:46.345
<00:30:41.895>then <00:30:42.070>you <00:30:42.245>will <00:30:42.420>lose <00:30:42.595>your, <00:30:42.770>uh, <00:30:42.945>employees, <00:30:43.120>your <00:30:43.295>innovation,

604
00:30:46.765 --> 00:30:49.785
<00:30:46.765>uh, <00:30:46.998>and, <00:30:47.231>uh, <00:30:47.465>in <00:30:47.698>the <00:30:47.931>end <00:30:48.165>money.

605
00:30:50.365 --> 00:30:53.345
<00:30:50.365>Um, <00:30:50.598>you <00:30:50.831>need <00:30:51.065>to <00:30:51.298>rehire, <00:30:51.531>uh, <00:30:51.765>talent.

606
00:30:53.685 --> 00:30:56.785
<00:30:53.685>And <00:30:53.885>if <00:30:54.085>you <00:30:54.284>don't <00:30:54.485>have <00:30:54.685>the <00:30:54.885>right <00:30:55.085>surroundings

607
00:30:56.805 --> 00:30:59.865
<00:30:56.805>and <00:30:56.980>the <00:30:57.155>right <00:30:57.330>basics, <00:30:57.505>they <00:30:57.680>will <00:30:57.855>leave <00:30:58.030>your <00:30:58.205>company.

608
00:31:00.035 --> 00:31:01.035
Again.

609
00:31:03.245 --> 00:31:07.425
<00:31:03.245>If <00:31:03.385>you <00:31:03.524>would <00:31:03.665>give <00:31:03.804>every <00:31:03.945>company <00:31:04.084>a <00:31:04.225>Euro <00:31:04.364>inclusion <00:31:04.504>start <00:31:04.645>a

610
00:31:07.445 --> 00:31:08.545
<00:31:07.445>kit, <00:31:07.775>a <00:31:08.105>small <00:31:08.435>one.

611
00:31:08.545 --> 00:31:11.505
<00:31:08.545>Yeah. <00:31:08.778>It's <00:31:09.011>like, <00:31:09.245>like <00:31:09.478>a <00:31:09.711>kindergarten <00:31:09.945>suitcase,

612
00:31:11.515 --> 00:31:13.265
<00:31:11.515>which <00:31:11.795>you <00:31:12.075>normally <00:31:12.355>take <00:31:12.635>to <00:31:12.915>kindergarten

613
00:31:13.335 --> 00:31:15.145
<00:31:13.335>with <00:31:13.615>all <00:31:13.895>the <00:31:14.175>Yeah, <00:31:14.455>yeah, <00:31:14.735>yeah.

614
00:31:15.415 --> 00:31:18.505
<00:31:15.415>Working <00:31:15.648>staff. <00:31:15.881>Uh, <00:31:16.115>what <00:31:16.348>would <00:31:16.581>be <00:31:16.815>inside,

615
00:31:18.535 --> 00:31:20.665
<00:31:18.535>what <00:31:18.815>would <00:31:19.095>you <00:31:19.375>personally <00:31:19.655>put <00:31:19.935>in,

616
00:31:20.665 --> 00:31:22.345
<00:31:20.665>if <00:31:20.898>you <00:31:21.131>could <00:31:21.365>choose <00:31:21.598>three <00:31:21.831>things, <00:31:22.065>what,

617
00:31:22.615 --> 00:31:23.625
<00:31:22.615>what <00:31:22.918>would <00:31:23.221>be <00:31:23.524>inside?

618
00:31:24.455 --> 00:31:27.435
<00:31:24.455>Uh, <00:31:24.655>probably <00:31:24.855>one <00:31:25.054>of <00:31:25.254>my <00:31:25.455>newer <00:31:25.655>inclusion <00:31:25.855>bags.

619
00:31:27.695 --> 00:31:31.755
<00:31:27.695>Um, <00:31:27.895>and <00:31:28.095>I <00:31:28.294>really, <00:31:28.495>really <00:31:28.695>love, <00:31:28.895>uh, <00:31:29.095>the,

620
00:31:31.895 --> 00:31:33.595
<00:31:31.895>the <00:31:32.175>thing <00:31:32.455>called <00:31:32.735>manual <00:31:33.014>of <00:31:33.295>me.

621
00:31:34.275 --> 00:31:35.795
<00:31:34.275>I <00:31:34.503>think <00:31:34.731>it's <00:31:34.959>a <00:31:35.187>really <00:31:35.415>great <00:31:35.643>tool.

622
00:31:36.295 --> 00:31:39.595
<00:31:36.295>And, <00:31:36.450>uh, <00:31:36.606>there <00:31:36.761>are <00:31:36.917>also <00:31:37.072>all <00:31:37.228>those <00:31:37.383>questions <00:31:37.539>I <00:31:37.695>mentioned

623
00:31:39.595 --> 00:31:41.915
<00:31:39.595>before, <00:31:39.828>uh, <00:31:40.061>when <00:31:40.295>is <00:31:40.528>your <00:31:40.761>working <00:31:40.995>time?

624
00:31:42.145 --> 00:31:43.395
<00:31:42.145>What <00:31:42.426>do <00:31:42.707>you <00:31:42.988>need, <00:31:43.270>uh,

625
00:31:43.855 --> 00:31:45.995
<00:31:43.855>how <00:31:44.055>do <00:31:44.255>you <00:31:44.455>like <00:31:44.655>communication, <00:31:44.855>stuff <00:31:45.055>like <00:31:45.255>that.

626
00:31:46.575 --> 00:31:51.475
<00:31:46.575>And <00:31:46.715>the <00:31:46.855>third <00:31:46.995>one, <00:31:47.135>uh, <00:31:47.275>probably, <00:31:47.415>uh, <00:31:47.555>yeah, <00:31:47.695>a <00:31:47.835>meeting <00:31:47.975>guide,

627
00:31:51.735 --> 00:31:53.835
<00:31:51.735>um, <00:31:51.935>how <00:31:52.135>to <00:31:52.334>set <00:31:52.534>up <00:31:52.735>a, <00:31:52.935>a <00:31:53.135>meeting.

628
00:31:54.135 --> 00:31:56.995
<00:31:54.135>So, <00:31:54.335>uh, <00:31:54.535>there <00:31:54.735>needs <00:31:54.935>to <00:31:55.135>be <00:31:55.335>an <00:31:55.535>agenda

629
00:31:57.415 --> 00:32:00.835
<00:31:57.415>and, <00:31:57.648>uh, <00:31:57.881>someone <00:31:58.115>who's, <00:31:58.348>uh, <00:31:58.581>making, <00:31:58.815>uh,

630
00:32:00.895 --> 00:32:03.355
<00:32:00.895>the <00:32:01.175>documentation, <00:32:01.455>stuff <00:32:01.735>like <00:32:02.014>that. <00:32:02.295>So

631
00:32:03.885 --> 00:32:06.475
<00:32:03.885>Would, <00:32:04.040>would <00:32:04.196>you, <00:32:04.351>would, <00:32:04.507>would <00:32:04.662>you <00:32:04.818>be <00:32:04.973>willing <00:32:05.129>to <00:32:05.285>share

632
00:32:06.475 --> 00:32:08.395
<00:32:06.475>that <00:32:06.708>kind <00:32:06.941>of <00:32:07.175>material <00:32:07.408>with <00:32:07.641>our <00:32:07.875>audience?

633
00:32:08.555 --> 00:32:10.555
<00:32:08.555>I <00:32:08.710>mean, <00:32:08.866>you <00:32:09.021>can <00:32:09.177>still <00:32:09.332>know <00:32:09.488>now <00:32:09.643>because <00:32:09.799>of <00:32:09.955>course,

634
00:32:10.655 --> 00:32:13.675
<00:32:10.655>but <00:32:10.830>I <00:32:11.004>mean, <00:32:11.180>uh, <00:32:11.355>could, <00:32:11.530>could, <00:32:11.705>could <00:32:11.879>we <00:32:12.055>share

635
00:32:13.675 --> 00:32:15.715
<00:32:13.675>that <00:32:13.875>in <00:32:14.075>a <00:32:14.274>link <00:32:14.475>if <00:32:14.675>we <00:32:14.875>communicate <00:32:15.075>it,

636
00:32:15.715 --> 00:32:17.395
<00:32:15.715>or <00:32:16.064>Probably <00:32:16.415>just <00:32:16.764>a <00:32:17.115>sneaker

637
00:32:17.395 --> 00:32:20.675
<00:32:17.395>and <00:32:17.522>your, <00:32:17.649>your, <00:32:17.776>your <00:32:17.904>address <00:32:18.031>anyhow <00:32:18.158>is <00:32:18.285>included <00:32:18.413>in <00:32:18.540>a <00:32:18.667>way <00:32:18.795>so

638
00:32:20.675 --> 00:32:21.915
<00:32:20.675>that <00:32:20.898>people <00:32:21.121>can <00:32:21.344>get <00:32:21.567>in <00:32:21.791>contact

639
00:32:21.915 --> 00:32:23.115
<00:32:21.915>with <00:32:22.069>you <00:32:22.223>if <00:32:22.377>they <00:32:22.532>want <00:32:22.686>to <00:32:22.840>know <00:32:22.995>more.

640
00:32:23.865 --> 00:32:25.855
<00:32:23.865>Definitely. <00:32:25.265>Okay.

641
00:32:26.125 --> 00:32:27.655
<00:32:26.125>Then <00:32:26.469>we <00:32:26.813>will <00:32:27.157>probably <00:32:27.502>take

642
00:32:27.655 --> 00:32:30.415
<00:32:27.655>that <00:32:27.830>up <00:32:28.004>later <00:32:28.180>on <00:32:28.355>when <00:32:28.530>we <00:32:28.705>release <00:32:28.879>the <00:32:29.055>episode.

643
00:32:30.475 --> 00:32:32.935
<00:32:30.475>And <00:32:30.675>we, <00:32:30.875>we <00:32:31.074>would <00:32:31.274>probably <00:32:31.475>provide <00:32:31.675>some <00:32:31.875>links

644
00:32:32.935 --> 00:32:37.415
<00:32:32.935>and <00:32:33.110>material <00:32:33.284>links <00:32:33.460>to <00:32:33.635>material <00:32:33.810>that's <00:32:33.985>ama <00:32:34.159>uh, <00:32:34.335>amazing.

645
00:32:38.115 --> 00:32:41.985
<00:32:38.115>And <00:32:38.270>with <00:32:38.426>your <00:32:38.581>vision <00:32:38.737>of <00:32:38.892>a <00:32:39.048>truly <00:32:39.203>neuro <00:32:39.359>inclusive <00:32:39.515>workplace,

646
00:32:42.165 --> 00:32:44.505
<00:32:42.165>how <00:32:42.398>would <00:32:42.631>this <00:32:42.865>look <00:32:43.098>like <00:32:43.331>in <00:32:43.565>2035?

647
00:32:46.165 --> 00:32:50.705
<00:32:46.165>Um, <00:32:46.631>that <00:32:47.098>psychological, <00:32:47.565>sorry,

648
00:32:50.855 --> 00:32:52.625
<00:32:50.855>psychological <00:32:51.555>safety <00:32:52.255>mm-hmm.

649
00:32:52.625 --> 00:32:54.865
<00:32:52.625>Isn't <00:32:52.858>just <00:32:53.091>word <00:32:53.325>buzzword, <00:32:53.558>but <00:32:53.791>it <00:32:54.025>lift.

650
00:32:55.125 --> 00:32:58.425
<00:32:55.125>Um, <00:32:55.300>and <00:32:55.475>I <00:32:55.650>think <00:32:55.825>this <00:32:56.000>will <00:32:56.175>help <00:32:56.350>a <00:32:56.525>lot.

651
00:32:59.125 --> 00:33:01.745
<00:32:59.125>Uh, <00:32:59.325>and <00:32:59.525>from <00:32:59.725>there <00:32:59.925>on, <00:33:00.125>you <00:33:00.325>can, <00:33:00.525>uh,

652
00:33:01.835 --> 00:33:05.225
<00:33:01.835>build <00:33:02.035>up <00:33:02.235>your <00:33:02.435>neuro <00:33:02.635>inclusive <00:33:02.835>structures <00:33:03.035>and <00:33:03.235>policies.

653
00:33:05.325 --> 00:33:08.025
<00:33:05.325>And, <00:33:05.675>uh, <00:33:06.025>yeah, <00:33:06.375>this <00:33:06.725>is,

654
00:33:08.515 --> 00:33:12.505
<00:33:08.515>would <00:33:08.670>be <00:33:08.826>a <00:33:08.981>very <00:33:09.137>major <00:33:09.292>step, <00:33:09.448>uh, <00:33:09.603>regarding <00:33:09.759>neuro <00:33:09.915>inclusive,

655
00:33:12.885 --> 00:33:14.345
<00:33:12.885>uh, <00:33:13.323>neuro <00:33:13.761>inclusion. <00:33:14.199>Mm-hmm.

656
00:33:14.905 --> 00:33:17.185
<00:33:14.905>I <00:33:15.045>just, <00:33:15.185>I, <00:33:15.325>I, <00:33:15.465>I <00:33:15.605>personally <00:33:15.745>want <00:33:15.885>to <00:33:16.024>add, <00:33:16.165>I <00:33:16.305>mean,

657
00:33:17.925 --> 00:33:19.545
<00:33:17.925>it <00:33:18.158>shouldn't <00:33:18.391>even <00:33:18.625>be <00:33:18.858>on <00:33:19.091>the <00:33:19.325>agenda

658
00:33:19.545 --> 00:33:21.025
<00:33:19.545>because <00:33:20.211>it's, <00:33:20.877>honestly,

659
00:33:21.065 --> 00:33:23.825
<00:33:21.065>I <00:33:21.205>think <00:33:21.345>things <00:33:21.485>are <00:33:21.625>really <00:33:21.765>solved <00:33:21.905>if <00:33:22.045>they're, <00:33:22.185>we <00:33:22.325>don't <00:33:22.465>need

660
00:33:23.825 --> 00:33:25.785
<00:33:23.825>to <00:33:23.965>be <00:33:24.105>on <00:33:24.245>the <00:33:24.385>agenda, <00:33:24.525>I <00:33:24.665>think <00:33:24.805>then <00:33:24.945>we <00:33:25.085>are <00:33:25.225>there.

661
00:33:27.205 --> 00:33:28.265
<00:33:27.205>Before <00:33:27.523>we <00:33:27.841>end <00:33:28.159>up,

662
00:33:28.265 --> 00:33:31.385
<00:33:28.265>because <00:33:28.405>I <00:33:28.545>think <00:33:28.685>time <00:33:28.825>is <00:33:28.965>passing <00:33:29.105>by <00:33:29.245>extremely <00:33:29.385>quickly, <00:33:29.525>I <00:33:29.665>want

663
00:33:31.385 --> 00:33:33.545
<00:33:31.385>to <00:33:31.560>play <00:33:31.735>a <00:33:31.910>quick <00:33:32.085>round <00:33:32.260>of <00:33:32.435>this <00:33:32.610>or <00:33:32.785>that.

664
00:33:33.725 --> 00:33:35.385
<00:33:33.725>So <00:33:33.958>I <00:33:34.191>throw <00:33:34.425>some <00:33:34.658>items <00:33:34.891>to <00:33:35.125>you

665
00:33:35.405 --> 00:33:36.625
<00:33:35.405>and <00:33:35.624>I've <00:33:35.844>asked <00:33:36.063>you <00:33:36.283>to <00:33:36.503>quickly,

666
00:33:36.655 --> 00:33:38.825
<00:33:36.655>without <00:33:36.935>even <00:33:37.215>too <00:33:37.495>much <00:33:37.774>thinking, <00:33:38.055>pick

667
00:33:38.825 --> 00:33:39.945
<00:33:38.825>and <00:33:39.026>choose <00:33:39.228>one <00:33:39.429>of <00:33:39.631>the <00:33:39.832>two.

668
00:33:40.415 --> 00:33:43.225
<00:33:40.415>Okay. <00:33:40.555>And <00:33:40.695>I <00:33:40.835>want, <00:33:40.975>I <00:33:41.115>want <00:33:41.254>to <00:33:41.395>start <00:33:41.534>with <00:33:41.675>camera <00:33:41.815>on,

669
00:33:43.325 --> 00:33:44.585
<00:33:43.325>or <00:33:43.892>camera <00:33:44.459>optional.

670
00:33:45.525 --> 00:33:47.065
<00:33:45.525>Uh, <00:33:45.871>for <00:33:46.218>me <00:33:46.564>or <00:33:46.911>general,

671
00:33:47.985 --> 00:33:49.395
<00:33:47.985>General, <00:33:48.302>your <00:33:48.619>opinion <00:33:48.936>on <00:33:49.254>it,

672
00:33:49.395 --> 00:33:50.595
<00:33:49.395>if <00:33:49.610>companies <00:33:49.827>have <00:33:50.043>to <00:33:50.259>handle <00:33:50.475>it.

673
00:33:51.535 --> 00:33:52.835
<00:33:51.535>Uh, <00:33:52.705>optional,

674
00:33:55.315 --> 00:33:57.395
<00:33:55.315>I <00:33:55.548>think <00:33:55.781>first <00:33:56.015>or <00:33:56.248>live <00:33:56.481>discussion <00:33:56.715>first.

675
00:33:58.785 --> 00:33:59.965
<00:33:58.785>Uh, <00:33:58.997>what <00:33:59.209>was <00:33:59.422>the <00:33:59.634>first <00:33:59.847>one?

676
00:34:00.925 --> 00:34:05.245
<00:34:00.925>A <00:34:01.065>think <00:34:01.205>if <00:34:01.345>it <00:34:01.485>comes <00:34:01.625>to <00:34:01.764>communication, <00:34:01.905>uh, <00:34:02.044>to, <00:34:02.185>to, <00:34:02.325>uh,

677
00:34:05.485 --> 00:34:07.725
<00:34:05.485>a <00:34:05.718>think <00:34:05.951>first <00:34:06.185>or <00:34:06.418>live <00:34:06.651>discussion <00:34:06.885>first.

678
00:34:07.825 --> 00:34:10.925
<00:34:07.825>So <00:34:08.058>I <00:34:08.291>mean <00:34:08.525>preparation <00:34:08.758>or <00:34:08.991>live <00:34:09.225>discussion.

679
00:34:11.665 --> 00:34:12.885
<00:34:11.665>Um, <00:34:12.763>preparation,

680
00:34:14.205 --> 00:34:17.125
<00:34:14.205>Structured <00:34:14.438>agenda, <00:34:14.671>open <00:34:14.904>brainstorming <00:34:15.138>if <00:34:15.371>it <00:34:15.605>comes

681
00:34:17.145 --> 00:34:18.565
<00:34:17.145>to <00:34:17.571>meetings <00:34:17.996>and <00:34:18.423>collaboration,

682
00:34:19.045 --> 00:34:20.045
<00:34:19.045>Structured <00:34:19.945>agenda.

683
00:34:21.075 --> 00:34:24.085
<00:34:21.074>Okay. <00:34:21.308>Uh, <00:34:21.541>work <00:34:21.774>style, <00:34:22.008>deep <00:34:22.241>work <00:34:22.475>blocks

684
00:34:24.265 --> 00:34:25.605
<00:34:24.264>or <00:34:24.667>always <00:34:25.069>aware <00:34:25.471>level,

685
00:34:26.485 --> 00:34:27.485
<00:34:26.485>Deep <00:34:26.935>work <00:34:27.385>blocks.

686
00:34:28.025 --> 00:34:30.375
<00:34:28.025>Leadership, <00:34:28.491>clarity <00:34:28.958>and <00:34:29.425>consistency,

687
00:34:30.515 --> 00:34:32.095
<00:34:30.514>or <00:34:30.981>flexibility <00:34:31.448>and <00:34:31.915>freedom.

688
00:34:34.155 --> 00:34:35.695
<00:34:34.155>It <00:34:34.432>depends <00:34:34.709>how <00:34:34.986>you <00:34:35.263>frame <00:34:35.541>it.

689
00:34:35.995 --> 00:34:38.535
<00:34:35.995>My <00:34:36.228>first <00:34:36.461>instinct <00:34:36.694>would <00:34:36.928>be, <00:34:37.161>uh, <00:34:37.395>structure.

690
00:34:39.525 --> 00:34:41.015
<00:34:39.525>Okey <00:34:39.972>dokey. <00:34:40.418>And <00:34:40.866>last

691
00:34:41.015 --> 00:34:42.055
<00:34:41.014>but <00:34:41.202>not <00:34:41.389>least, <00:34:41.576>that's <00:34:41.763>a <00:34:41.951>question

692
00:34:42.055 --> 00:34:44.935
<00:34:42.054>that <00:34:42.182>I <00:34:42.309>always <00:34:42.436>ask <00:34:42.564>my <00:34:42.691>guests <00:34:42.818>at <00:34:42.945>the <00:34:43.073>end <00:34:43.200>is <00:34:43.327>if <00:34:43.455>alaine

693
00:34:44.935 --> 00:34:46.855
<00:34:44.935>with <00:34:45.090>his <00:34:45.246>magic <00:34:45.401>lamp <00:34:45.557>would <00:34:45.712>show <00:34:45.868>up <00:34:46.023>at <00:34:46.179>you <00:34:46.335>now

694
00:34:48.015 --> 00:34:50.615
<00:34:48.014>offering <00:34:48.214>you <00:34:48.415>one <00:34:48.614>wish, <00:34:48.815>what <00:34:49.014>would <00:34:49.214>it <00:34:49.415>be?

695
00:34:50.615 --> 00:34:53.215
<00:34:50.614>Could <00:34:50.754>it <00:34:50.895>be <00:34:51.034>a <00:34:51.174>private <00:34:51.314>one <00:34:51.455>or <00:34:51.594>a <00:34:51.734>business <00:34:51.875>related <00:34:52.014>one?

696
00:34:54.305 --> 00:34:54.525
Oof.

697
00:34:59.075 --> 00:35:00.535
<00:34:59.075>That's <00:34:59.513>the <00:34:59.951>one. <00:35:00.388>Uh,

698
00:35:06.285 --> 00:35:09.335
<00:35:06.285>generally, <00:35:06.440>I <00:35:06.596>don't <00:35:06.751>think <00:35:06.907>in <00:35:07.062>dreams, <00:35:07.218>I <00:35:07.373>just <00:35:07.529>put <00:35:07.685>up,

699
00:35:12.735 --> 00:35:14.895
<00:35:12.735>I <00:35:12.862>mean, <00:35:12.989>you <00:35:13.116>can <00:35:13.244>give, <00:35:13.371>you <00:35:13.498>can <00:35:13.625>give <00:35:13.753>him <00:35:13.880>a <00:35:14.007>task, <00:35:14.135>please

700
00:35:14.895 --> 00:35:17.135
<00:35:14.895>and <00:35:15.095>say, <00:35:15.295>come <00:35:15.495>on, <00:35:15.695>so <00:35:15.895>solve <00:35:16.095>it, <00:35:16.295>please.

701
00:35:19.325 --> 00:35:23.295
<00:35:19.325>Yeah. <00:35:19.480>Maybe <00:35:19.636>that, <00:35:19.791>What <00:35:19.947>would <00:35:20.102>be <00:35:20.258>one <00:35:20.413>of <00:35:20.569>the <00:35:20.725>tasks?

702
00:35:24.115 --> 00:35:28.445
<00:35:24.115>Uh, <00:35:24.395>get <00:35:24.674>me <00:35:24.955>in, <00:35:25.234>uh, <00:35:25.515>working

703
00:35:29.065 --> 00:35:32.765
<00:35:29.065>AI <00:35:29.265>agent <00:35:29.465>that <00:35:29.665>helps <00:35:29.865>my, <00:35:30.065>uh, <00:35:30.265>sometimes <00:35:30.465>not

704
00:35:32.765 --> 00:35:33.845
<00:35:32.765>so <00:35:33.250>organized <00:35:33.736>brain.

705
00:35:36.025 --> 00:35:37.885
<00:35:36.025>That's <00:35:36.180>a <00:35:36.336>good <00:35:36.491>one. <00:35:36.647>I <00:35:36.802>think <00:35:36.958>that's <00:35:37.113>the <00:35:37.269>first <00:35:37.425>time

706
00:35:37.885 --> 00:35:39.885
<00:35:37.885>that <00:35:38.235>Aine <00:35:38.585>hasn't <00:35:38.935>solved <00:35:39.285>wishes,

707
00:35:40.245 --> 00:35:42.245
<00:35:40.245>I <00:35:40.384>think <00:35:40.525>is <00:35:40.665>the <00:35:40.805>first <00:35:40.944>time <00:35:41.085>we <00:35:41.225>got <00:35:41.365>the <00:35:41.505>task <00:35:41.645>list.

708
00:35:42.265 --> 00:35:45.965
<00:35:42.265>So <00:35:42.731>that's <00:35:43.198>Premier. <00:35:43.665>I

709
00:35:46.465 --> 00:35:47.485
<00:35:46.465>was <00:35:46.648>happy <00:35:46.832>to <00:35:47.015>be <00:35:47.199>the <00:35:47.383>first.

710
00:35:47.995 --> 00:35:51.085
<00:35:47.995>Yeah, <00:35:48.134>of <00:35:48.275>course. <00:35:48.415>It <00:35:48.555>was <00:35:48.694>a <00:35:48.835>really <00:35:48.975>pleasure <00:35:49.115>to <00:35:49.255>have <00:35:49.395>you.

711
00:35:51.205 --> 00:35:52.765
<00:35:51.205>I <00:35:51.438>think <00:35:51.671>it <00:35:51.904>was <00:35:52.138>a <00:35:52.371>really, <00:35:52.605>uh,

712
00:35:52.785 --> 00:35:54.845
<00:35:52.785>for <00:35:53.018>me <00:35:53.251>it <00:35:53.484>was <00:35:53.718>an <00:35:53.951>inspiring <00:35:54.185>discussion.

713
00:35:54.965 --> 00:35:57.925
<00:35:54.965>I <00:35:55.140>learned <00:35:55.315>a <00:35:55.490>lot <00:35:55.665>because <00:35:55.840>honestly, <00:35:56.015>I'm, <00:35:56.190>uh, <00:35:56.365>one

714
00:35:57.925 --> 00:36:00.085
<00:35:57.925>of <00:35:58.065>the <00:35:58.205>leaders <00:35:58.345>that <00:35:58.485>have <00:35:58.625>to <00:35:58.765>face <00:35:58.905>this <00:35:59.045>topic <00:35:59.185>as <00:35:59.325>well.

715
00:36:00.185 --> 00:36:03.285
<00:36:00.185>And <00:36:00.312>it's <00:36:00.439>not <00:36:00.566>easy <00:36:00.694>if <00:36:00.821>you <00:36:00.948>don't <00:36:01.075>have <00:36:01.203>it <00:36:01.330>in <00:36:01.457>your <00:36:01.585>private

716
00:36:03.285 --> 00:36:05.205
<00:36:03.285>lives, <00:36:03.484>and <00:36:03.685>if <00:36:03.884>you're <00:36:04.085>used <00:36:04.285>to <00:36:04.484>do <00:36:04.685>so.

717
00:36:05.385 --> 00:36:08.165
<00:36:05.385>So <00:36:05.525>I <00:36:05.665>think <00:36:05.805>that's <00:36:05.945>also <00:36:06.085>what <00:36:06.225>we <00:36:06.365>always <00:36:06.505>have <00:36:06.645>in <00:36:06.785>have

718
00:36:08.165 --> 00:36:10.725
<00:36:08.165>to <00:36:08.292>have <00:36:08.419>in <00:36:08.546>mind <00:36:08.674>as <00:36:08.801>well, <00:36:08.928>that <00:36:09.055>we <00:36:09.183>are <00:36:09.310>not <00:36:09.437>passion <00:36:09.565>leaders

719
00:36:10.825 --> 00:36:12.285
<00:36:10.825>and <00:36:11.087>managers, <00:36:11.350>because <00:36:11.613>at <00:36:11.876>the <00:36:12.138>end

720
00:36:12.285 --> 00:36:13.765
<00:36:12.285>of <00:36:12.507>the <00:36:12.729>day, <00:36:12.951>they're <00:36:13.173>humans <00:36:13.395>as <00:36:13.616>well.

721
00:36:14.025 --> 00:36:17.685
<00:36:14.025>And <00:36:14.200>I <00:36:14.375>think, <00:36:14.550>um, <00:36:14.725>we, <00:36:14.900>we <00:36:15.075>learn <00:36:15.250>with <00:36:15.425>experience,

722
00:36:17.785 --> 00:36:20.845
<00:36:17.785>and <00:36:17.924>if <00:36:18.065>we <00:36:18.205>experience <00:36:18.345>things <00:36:18.484>the <00:36:18.625>first <00:36:18.765>time, <00:36:18.904>it's, <00:36:19.045>it's, <00:36:19.185>it,

723
00:36:20.845 --> 00:36:22.805
<00:36:20.845>it's <00:36:21.078>sometimes <00:36:21.311>really <00:36:21.544>tricky <00:36:21.778>to <00:36:22.011>handle <00:36:22.245>it.

724
00:36:22.805 --> 00:36:24.205
<00:36:22.805>Right. <00:36:23.120>And <00:36:23.435>I, <00:36:23.750>I <00:36:24.065>want

725
00:36:24.205 --> 00:36:26.405
<00:36:24.205>to <00:36:24.360>appel <00:36:24.516>on <00:36:24.671>all <00:36:24.827>the <00:36:24.982>guys <00:36:25.138>out <00:36:25.293>there <00:36:25.449>as <00:36:25.605>well.

726
00:36:26.475 --> 00:36:28.285
<00:36:26.475>It's <00:36:26.755>always <00:36:27.035>easy <00:36:27.315>to <00:36:27.595>patch <00:36:27.875>leaders

727
00:36:28.345 --> 00:36:30.125
<00:36:28.345>and <00:36:28.578>managers <00:36:28.811>that <00:36:29.044>have <00:36:29.278>to <00:36:29.511>solve <00:36:29.745>everything,

728
00:36:30.125 --> 00:36:32.405
<00:36:30.125>but <00:36:30.265>at <00:36:30.405>the <00:36:30.545>end <00:36:30.685>of <00:36:30.825>the <00:36:30.965>day, <00:36:31.105>they <00:36:31.245>humans <00:36:31.385>as <00:36:31.525>well.

729
00:36:32.585 --> 00:36:34.325
<00:36:32.585>But <00:36:32.865>I <00:36:33.145>think <00:36:33.425>it's, <00:36:33.705>it's <00:36:33.985>communication.

730
00:36:34.385 --> 00:36:35.725
<00:36:34.385>It <00:36:34.787>starts <00:36:35.189>with <00:36:35.591>communication.

731
00:36:35.825 --> 00:36:38.045
<00:36:35.825>And <00:36:36.000>Nain, <00:36:36.174>thank <00:36:36.350>you <00:36:36.524>so <00:36:36.700>much <00:36:36.875>for <00:36:37.049>your <00:36:37.225>time.

732
00:36:38.065 --> 00:36:40.605
<00:36:38.065>It <00:36:38.192>was <00:36:38.319>a <00:36:38.446>great <00:36:38.574>pleasure <00:36:38.701>to <00:36:38.828>have <00:36:38.955>you <00:36:39.083>at <00:36:39.210>Cappuccino <00:36:39.337>with <00:36:39.465>hr.

733
00:36:41.175 --> 00:36:43.445
<00:36:41.175>Thank <00:36:41.408>you <00:36:41.641>and <00:36:41.875>dear <00:36:42.108>audience, <00:36:42.341>uh, <00:36:42.575>looking,

734
00:36:44.605 --> 00:36:47.165
<00:36:44.605>I <00:36:44.721>hope <00:36:44.838>you <00:36:44.955>enjoy <00:36:45.071>it <00:36:45.188>as <00:36:45.305>well <00:36:45.421>as <00:36:45.538>I <00:36:45.655>did <00:36:45.771>during <00:36:45.888>the <00:36:46.005>recording

735
00:36:47.185 --> 00:36:49.765
<00:36:47.185>and <00:36:47.384>stay <00:36:47.585>tuned <00:36:47.785>for <00:36:47.985>what's <00:36:48.185>coming <00:36:48.384>next. <00:36:48.585>Goodbye.

736
00:36:50.665 --> 00:36:50.885
Bye.

737
00:36:56.435 --> 00:36:58.465
<00:36:56.435>Thank <00:36:56.668>you <00:36:56.901>for <00:36:57.134>watching <00:36:57.368>Cappuccino <00:36:57.601>with <00:36:57.835>hr.

738
00:36:58.485 --> 00:37:00.225
<00:36:58.485>If <00:36:58.718>you <00:36:58.951>enjoy <00:36:59.185>these <00:36:59.418>kind <00:36:59.651>of <00:36:59.885>conversations,

739
00:37:00.245 --> 00:37:02.425
<00:37:00.245>please <00:37:00.444>don't <00:37:00.645>forget <00:37:00.845>to <00:37:01.045>hit <00:37:01.245>the <00:37:01.444>subscribe <00:37:01.645>button.

740
00:37:02.615 --> 00:37:04.985
<00:37:02.615>Then <00:37:02.790>you <00:37:02.964>get <00:37:03.140>all <00:37:03.314>this <00:37:03.490>kind <00:37:03.665>of <00:37:03.839>upfront <00:37:04.015>information,

741
00:37:04.985 --> 00:37:06.265
<00:37:04.985>your <00:37:05.561>upcoming <00:37:06.136>episodes,

742
00:37:06.265 --> 00:37:09.945
<00:37:06.265>and <00:37:06.392>all <00:37:06.519>my <00:37:06.646>nice <00:37:06.774>guests <00:37:06.901>Cappuccino <00:37:07.028>with <00:37:07.155>HR <00:37:07.283>is <00:37:07.410>brought <00:37:07.537>to <00:37:07.665>you

743
00:37:09.945 --> 00:37:12.425
<00:37:09.945>by <00:37:10.145>we <00:37:10.345>are <00:37:10.545>developers, <00:37:10.745>Europe's <00:37:10.945>number <00:37:11.145>one <00:37:11.345>developer

744
00:37:12.425 --> 00:37:15.865
<00:37:12.425>community, <00:37:12.625>and <00:37:12.825>the <00:37:13.025>leading <00:37:13.225>platform <00:37:13.425>for <00:37:13.625>connecting <00:37:13.825>HR

745
00:37:16.125 --> 00:37:18.225
<00:37:16.125>and <00:37:16.475>companies <00:37:16.825>together <00:37:17.175>with <00:37:17.525>developers.

746
00:37:18.485 --> 00:37:21.265
<00:37:18.485>If <00:37:18.612>you <00:37:18.739>want <00:37:18.866>to <00:37:18.994>learn <00:37:19.121>more <00:37:19.248>with <00:37:19.375>it, <00:37:19.503>as <00:37:19.630>on <00:37:19.757>we <00:37:19.885>developers.com,

747
00:37:21.355 --> 00:37:22.665
<00:37:21.355>thank <00:37:21.649>you <00:37:21.944>again <00:37:22.239>for <00:37:22.534>watching

748
00:37:22.665 --> 00:37:24.465
<00:37:22.665>and <00:37:22.840>see <00:37:23.015>you <00:37:23.190>next <00:37:23.365>time <00:37:23.540>in <00:37:23.715>Cappuccino <00:37:23.890>with <00:37:24.065>hr.