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383
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<00:17:14.734>Yeah. <00:17:14.890>I <00:17:15.046>mean, <00:17:15.201>Europe <00:17:15.357>started <00:17:15.512>moving <00:17:15.668>out <00:17:15.823>into <00:17:15.979>the <00:17:16.135>entire

384
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<00:17:19.724>world <00:17:19.925>to <00:17:20.125>leave <00:17:20.324>footprints <00:17:20.524>all <00:17:20.724>over <00:17:20.925>the <00:17:21.125>places

385
00:17:24.315 --> 00:17:25.575
<00:17:24.315>couple <00:17:24.598>of <00:17:24.882>hundred <00:17:25.165>years <00:17:25.449>ago.

386
00:17:25.775 --> 00:17:26.815
<00:17:25.775>I <00:17:25.908>mean, <00:17:26.042>there <00:17:26.176>was <00:17:26.309>some <00:17:26.443>good <00:17:26.577>in <00:17:26.711>it,

387
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<00:17:26.815>there <00:17:26.964>was <00:17:27.113>some <00:17:27.262>bad <00:17:27.411>in <00:17:27.560>it, <00:17:27.709>of <00:17:27.858>course.

388
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<00:17:28.005>Yeah. <00:17:28.112>Yeah. <00:17:28.220>But <00:17:28.328>at <00:17:28.435>the <00:17:28.543>end <00:17:28.651>of <00:17:28.758>the <00:17:28.866>day, <00:17:28.974>we, <00:17:29.081>we <00:17:29.189>had <00:17:29.297>this <00:17:29.405>kind

389
00:17:30.775 --> 00:17:34.455
<00:17:30.775>of, <00:17:30.915>of, <00:17:31.055>of <00:17:31.195>curiosity <00:17:31.335>to <00:17:31.475>see <00:17:31.615>what's <00:17:31.755>behind <00:17:31.895>the <00:17:32.035>next <00:17:32.175>wall.

390
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<00:17:34.555>Mm-hmm. <00:17:34.835>Mm-hmm. <00:17:35.115>Have <00:17:35.395>we <00:17:35.675>lost <00:17:35.955>that?

391
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<00:17:36.635>Do <00:17:36.775>we <00:17:36.915>need <00:17:37.055>to <00:17:37.195>light <00:17:37.335>that <00:17:37.475>again? <00:17:37.615>Where <00:17:37.754>do <00:17:37.895>we <00:17:38.035>start?

392
00:17:39.515 --> 00:17:41.495
<00:17:39.515>Is <00:17:39.748>are <00:17:39.981>it <00:17:40.215>already <00:17:40.448>start <00:17:40.681>in <00:17:40.915>kindergarten

393
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<00:17:41.635>or <00:17:41.835>where, <00:17:42.035>where's <00:17:42.235>the <00:17:42.435>right <00:17:42.635>place <00:17:42.835>to <00:17:43.035>start?

394
00:17:44.125 --> 00:17:47.015
<00:17:44.125>This <00:17:44.300>kind <00:17:44.475>of <00:17:44.650>bringing <00:17:44.825>people <00:17:45.000>back <00:17:45.175>to <00:17:45.350>this <00:17:45.525>kind

395
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<00:17:47.015>of <00:17:47.248>basic <00:17:47.481>curiosity <00:17:47.715>thingy, <00:17:47.948>which <00:17:48.181>helps <00:17:48.415>us

396
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<00:17:50.225>to <00:17:50.458>follow <00:17:50.691>up <00:17:50.925>what's <00:17:51.158>coming <00:17:51.391>up <00:17:51.625>next.

397
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<00:17:52.805>Because <00:17:53.038>I <00:17:53.271>think <00:17:53.505>that's <00:17:53.738>the <00:17:53.971>blocking <00:17:54.205>factor.

398
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<00:17:54.905>We <00:17:55.080>have <00:17:55.254>people <00:17:55.430>that <00:17:55.605>sit <00:17:55.780>in <00:17:55.955>their, <00:17:56.129>their <00:17:56.305>chops.

399
00:17:57.425 --> 00:17:59.285
<00:17:57.425>And <00:17:57.705>honestly, <00:17:57.985>if <00:17:58.264>we <00:17:58.544>change <00:17:58.825>nothing,

400
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<00:17:59.285>then <00:17:59.564>it's <00:17:59.843>perfect <00:18:00.122>for <00:18:00.401>them.

401
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<00:18:01.605>If <00:18:01.885>something <00:18:02.165>changes, <00:18:02.445>they <00:18:02.725>get <00:18:03.005>afraid.

402
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<00:18:04.135>They <00:18:04.486>have <00:18:04.837>their <00:18:05.188>fears.

403
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<00:18:05.495>They <00:18:05.635>see <00:18:05.774>the <00:18:05.915>monster <00:18:06.054>under <00:18:06.195>the <00:18:06.334>bed, <00:18:06.475>as <00:18:06.614>you <00:18:06.754>said. <00:18:06.895>Yeah.

404
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<00:18:08.845>How <00:18:09.064>do <00:18:09.283>we <00:18:09.502>handle <00:18:09.721>that <00:18:09.940>as <00:18:10.159>leaders?

405
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<00:18:11.455>This <00:18:11.629>is, <00:18:11.804>uh, <00:18:11.980>Rudy, <00:18:12.155>that's <00:18:12.330>a <00:18:12.504>very <00:18:12.679>interesting <00:18:12.855>question.

406
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<00:18:14.225>There's <00:18:14.399>a, <00:18:14.574>um, <00:18:14.750>one <00:18:14.925>clear <00:18:15.100>aspect <00:18:15.274>that <00:18:15.449>is <00:18:15.625>missing

407
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<00:18:18.285>for <00:18:18.483>the <00:18:18.681>last <00:18:18.879>couple <00:18:19.077>of <00:18:19.275>years.

408
00:18:19.525 --> 00:18:22.585
<00:18:19.525>And <00:18:19.665>if <00:18:19.805>you <00:18:19.945>look <00:18:20.085>at <00:18:20.225>this, <00:18:20.365>this <00:18:20.505>is <00:18:20.645>employees <00:18:20.785>and <00:18:20.925>companies.

409
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<00:18:22.875>Trust <00:18:23.002>is <00:18:23.129>the <00:18:23.256>biggest <00:18:23.384>factor <00:18:23.511>that <00:18:23.638>has <00:18:23.765>lost <00:18:23.893>in <00:18:24.020>the <00:18:24.147>past <00:18:24.275>years.

410
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<00:18:27.445>Fixing <00:18:27.725>their <00:18:28.004>trust <00:18:28.284>is <00:18:28.564>very <00:18:28.845>important.

411
00:18:29.795 --> 00:18:32.345
<00:18:29.795>Every <00:18:30.028>time, <00:18:30.261>uh, <00:18:30.495>company <00:18:30.728>leadership <00:18:30.961>is <00:18:31.195>talking

412
00:18:32.365 --> 00:18:34.545
<00:18:32.365>to <00:18:32.645>employees <00:18:32.925>today, <00:18:33.205>there's <00:18:33.485>always <00:18:33.765>thinking,

413
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<00:18:34.545>what <00:18:34.818>is <00:18:35.092>the <00:18:35.365>intent <00:18:35.639>behind <00:18:35.913>it?

414
00:18:36.525 --> 00:18:38.985
<00:18:36.525>Is <00:18:36.700>it <00:18:36.875>only <00:18:37.050>to <00:18:37.225>push <00:18:37.400>valuation <00:18:37.575>or <00:18:37.750>share <00:18:37.925>value?

415
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<00:18:39.165>Or <00:18:39.292>there <00:18:39.419>is <00:18:39.546>something <00:18:39.674>in <00:18:39.801>it <00:18:39.928>for <00:18:40.055>me <00:18:40.183>as <00:18:40.310>an <00:18:40.437>employee <00:18:40.565>that

416
00:18:42.665 --> 00:18:45.065
<00:18:42.665>contractual <00:18:42.945>trust <00:18:43.225>has <00:18:43.504>to <00:18:43.784>come <00:18:44.065>back.

417
00:18:45.085 --> 00:18:47.985
<00:18:45.085>And <00:18:45.240>that's <00:18:45.396>a <00:18:45.551>lot <00:18:45.707>on <00:18:45.862>the <00:18:46.018>leadership <00:18:46.173>of <00:18:46.329>the <00:18:46.485>organization.

418
00:18:48.565 --> 00:18:50.385
<00:18:48.565>The <00:18:48.798>the <00:18:49.031>second <00:18:49.265>part <00:18:49.498>is <00:18:49.731>role <00:18:49.965>models.

419
00:18:51.125 --> 00:18:55.425
<00:18:51.125>We <00:18:51.280>are <00:18:51.436>missing <00:18:51.591>some <00:18:51.747>of <00:18:51.902>the <00:18:52.058>good <00:18:52.213>role <00:18:52.369>models, <00:18:52.525>unfortunately,

420
00:18:55.725 --> 00:18:56.785
<00:18:55.725>in <00:18:56.043>the <00:18:56.361>industry <00:18:56.679>today.

421
00:18:56.785 --> 00:19:00.045
<00:18:56.785>We <00:18:56.960>have <00:18:57.135>a <00:18:57.310>lot <00:18:57.485>of <00:18:57.660>the, <00:18:57.835>um, <00:18:58.010>tech <00:18:58.185>leaders

422
00:19:00.105 --> 00:19:02.245
<00:19:00.105>who <00:19:00.305>are <00:19:00.505>probably <00:19:00.705>not <00:19:00.905>doing <00:19:01.105>the <00:19:01.305>right <00:19:01.505>things

423
00:19:02.475 --> 00:19:04.285
<00:19:02.475>that <00:19:02.708>wanna <00:19:02.941>go <00:19:03.175>in <00:19:03.408>a, <00:19:03.641>the <00:19:03.875>details.

424
00:19:04.865 --> 00:19:06.405
<00:19:04.865>Uh, <00:19:05.096>but <00:19:05.327>we <00:19:05.558>need <00:19:05.789>those <00:19:06.020>role <00:19:06.251>models

425
00:19:06.465 --> 00:19:08.885
<00:19:06.465>who <00:19:06.639>are <00:19:06.814>doing <00:19:06.990>the <00:19:07.165>right <00:19:07.340>things <00:19:07.514>the <00:19:07.689>right <00:19:07.865>way.

426
00:19:08.985 --> 00:19:11.965
<00:19:08.985>And <00:19:09.218>yet <00:19:09.451>you <00:19:09.685>are, <00:19:09.918>uh, <00:19:10.151>gaining <00:19:10.385>success.

427
00:19:12.065 --> 00:19:14.685
<00:19:12.065>And <00:19:12.220>we <00:19:12.376>know <00:19:12.531>in <00:19:12.687>Europe, <00:19:12.842>we <00:19:12.998>need <00:19:13.153>that <00:19:13.309>big <00:19:13.465>time.

428
00:19:15.065 --> 00:19:17.725
<00:19:15.065>We <00:19:15.240>have <00:19:15.415>the <00:19:15.590>capability, <00:19:15.765>we <00:19:15.940>have <00:19:16.115>excellent <00:19:16.290>talent <00:19:16.465>today.

429
00:19:18.025 --> 00:19:19.045
<00:19:18.025>We <00:19:18.484>have <00:19:18.943>foundations

430
00:19:19.255 --> 00:19:22.805
<00:19:19.255>where <00:19:19.430>people <00:19:19.605>have <00:19:19.780>moved <00:19:19.955>from <00:19:20.130>other <00:19:20.305>countries <00:19:20.480>to <00:19:20.655>Europe.

431
00:19:22.875 --> 00:19:25.565
<00:19:22.875>That <00:19:23.075>talent <00:19:23.275>needs <00:19:23.475>to <00:19:23.675>be <00:19:23.875>exploited <00:19:24.075>as <00:19:24.275>well.

432
00:19:25.995 --> 00:19:28.285
<00:19:25.995>This <00:19:26.195>trust <00:19:26.395>and <00:19:26.594>this <00:19:26.794>role <00:19:26.995>modeling <00:19:27.195>is <00:19:27.395>needed.

433
00:19:28.715 --> 00:19:32.445
<00:19:28.715>Another <00:19:28.870>aspect <00:19:29.026>where <00:19:29.181>communities <00:19:29.337>can <00:19:29.492>play <00:19:29.648>a <00:19:29.803>big <00:19:29.959>role, <00:19:30.115>uh,

434
00:19:32.545 --> 00:19:35.525
<00:19:32.545>and <00:19:32.720>even <00:19:32.895>communities <00:19:33.070>and <00:19:33.245>conferences <00:19:33.420>like <00:19:33.595>yours <00:19:33.770>can <00:19:33.945>play.

435
00:19:35.565 --> 00:19:38.325
<00:19:35.565>A <00:19:35.765>big <00:19:35.965>role <00:19:36.165>here <00:19:36.365>is <00:19:36.565>starting <00:19:36.765>that <00:19:36.965>dialogue,

436
00:19:38.325 --> 00:19:39.365
<00:19:38.325>which <00:19:38.559>you <00:19:38.793>do <00:19:39.027>very <00:19:39.261>well.

437
00:19:39.545 --> 00:19:42.325
<00:19:39.545>And <00:19:39.825>continuing <00:19:40.105>it <00:19:40.385>with <00:19:40.665>hands-on <00:19:40.945>practice.

438
00:19:42.905 --> 00:19:46.445
<00:19:42.905>Uh, <00:19:43.060>something <00:19:43.216>that <00:19:43.371>we <00:19:43.527>saw <00:19:43.682>in <00:19:43.838>the <00:19:43.993>technology <00:19:44.149>era, <00:19:44.305>hackathons,

439
00:19:46.995 --> 00:19:48.405
<00:19:46.995>same <00:19:47.418>with <00:19:47.841>AI <00:19:48.264>today.

440
00:19:48.745 --> 00:19:49.965
<00:19:48.745>The <00:19:49.019>moment <00:19:49.293>you <00:19:49.568>sit <00:19:49.842>down,

441
00:19:50.185 --> 00:19:54.445
<00:19:50.185>and <00:19:50.360>even <00:19:50.534>if <00:19:50.710>it's <00:19:50.885>a <00:19:51.060>60 <00:19:51.235>minute <00:19:51.409>workshop <00:19:51.585>hands-on,

442
00:19:54.795 --> 00:19:55.925
<00:19:54.795>that <00:19:55.049>goes <00:19:55.303>a <00:19:55.557>long <00:19:55.812>way.

443
00:19:56.045 --> 00:19:57.885
<00:19:56.045>I <00:19:56.245>know <00:19:56.445>lovable <00:19:56.645>does <00:19:56.845>it. <00:19:57.045>Miro <00:19:57.245>does <00:19:57.445>it.

444
00:19:58.405 --> 00:20:00.965
<00:19:58.405>A <00:19:58.560>lot <00:19:58.716>of, <00:19:58.871>uh, <00:19:59.027>other <00:19:59.182>companies <00:19:59.338>have <00:19:59.493>started <00:19:59.649>doing <00:19:59.805>this

445
00:20:01.395 --> 00:20:02.525
<00:20:01.395>without <00:20:01.903>any <00:20:02.412>agenda.

446
00:20:02.845 --> 00:20:04.525
<00:20:02.845>Bringing <00:20:03.125>it <00:20:03.405>into <00:20:03.685>a <00:20:03.965>community <00:20:04.245>setup

447
00:20:04.705 --> 00:20:07.165
<00:20:04.705>and <00:20:04.905>having <00:20:05.105>a <00:20:05.304>one <00:20:05.504>hour <00:20:05.705>hackathon <00:20:05.905>can <00:20:06.105>lead

448
00:20:07.185 --> 00:20:08.525
<00:20:07.185>to <00:20:07.486>a <00:20:07.788>lot <00:20:08.089>of <00:20:08.391>curiosity.

449
00:20:09.225 --> 00:20:12.245
<00:20:09.225>And <00:20:09.365>that <00:20:09.504>curiosity <00:20:09.645>comes <00:20:09.784>from <00:20:09.925>the <00:20:10.064>belief <00:20:10.205>that, <00:20:10.344>oh <00:20:10.485>my <00:20:10.625>God,

450
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<00:20:12.765>I <00:20:13.002>don't <00:20:13.240>need <00:20:13.477>to <00:20:13.715>be, <00:20:13.953>uh,

451
00:20:14.165 --> 00:20:16.845
<00:20:14.165>a <00:20:14.398>computer <00:20:14.631>scientist <00:20:14.865>to <00:20:15.098>work <00:20:15.331>with <00:20:15.565>ai.

452
00:20:17.345 --> 00:20:19.125
<00:20:17.345>And <00:20:17.625>that <00:20:17.905>takes <00:20:18.185>you <00:20:18.465>a <00:20:18.745>long

453
00:20:19.365 --> 00:20:20.365
<00:20:19.365>Distance. <00:20:19.590>I <00:20:19.815>mean, <00:20:20.040>that <00:20:20.265>is

454
00:20:20.365 --> 00:20:22.645
<00:20:20.365>exactly <00:20:20.565>what <00:20:20.765>we, <00:20:20.965>we, <00:20:21.165>we <00:20:21.365>started <00:20:21.565>doing <00:20:21.765>and,

455
00:20:22.645 --> 00:20:24.685
<00:20:22.645>and <00:20:22.995>and <00:20:23.345>planning <00:20:23.695>also <00:20:24.045>for,

456
00:20:24.745 --> 00:20:26.965
<00:20:24.745>for <00:20:24.919>the <00:20:25.094>congress <00:20:25.270>season <00:20:25.445>this <00:20:25.620>year, <00:20:25.794>where <00:20:25.969>we <00:20:26.145>saw,

457
00:20:27.305 --> 00:20:30.725
<00:20:27.305>we <00:20:27.505>have <00:20:27.705>got <00:20:27.905>1,500 <00:20:28.105>HR <00:20:28.305>people <00:20:28.505>leaders <00:20:28.705>there.

458
00:20:30.785 --> 00:20:32.445
<00:20:30.785>We <00:20:31.018>have <00:20:31.251>got <00:20:31.485>2000 <00:20:31.718>C <00:20:31.951>levels <00:20:32.185>there.

459
00:20:32.445 --> 00:20:35.085
<00:20:32.445>We <00:20:32.645>have <00:20:32.845>got <00:20:33.044>10, <00:20:33.245>11,000 <00:20:33.445>tech <00:20:33.645>guys <00:20:33.845>there.

460
00:20:35.745 --> 00:20:37.365
<00:20:35.745>So <00:20:35.978>I <00:20:36.211>think <00:20:36.445>the <00:20:36.678>knowledge <00:20:36.911>is <00:20:37.145>there.

461
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<00:20:37.465>We <00:20:37.592>just <00:20:37.719>need <00:20:37.846>to <00:20:37.974>motivate <00:20:38.101>them <00:20:38.228>to <00:20:38.355>talk <00:20:38.483>to <00:20:38.610>each <00:20:38.737>other. <00:20:38.865>Yes.

462
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<00:20:41.545>And <00:20:41.745>I <00:20:41.945>think <00:20:42.145>e <00:20:42.345>exactly <00:20:42.545>what <00:20:42.745>you <00:20:42.945>said.

463
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<00:20:44.005>I <00:20:44.160>mean, <00:20:44.316>we <00:20:44.471>are <00:20:44.627>really <00:20:44.782>planning <00:20:44.938>kind <00:20:45.093>of <00:20:45.249>formats <00:20:45.405>where

464
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<00:20:46.885>somebody <00:20:47.025>from <00:20:47.165>NNN <00:20:47.305>is, <00:20:47.445>is, <00:20:47.585>is, <00:20:47.725>is, <00:20:47.865>is, <00:20:48.004>is <00:20:48.145>bringing <00:20:48.285>one

465
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<00:20:50.085>of <00:20:50.225>his, <00:20:50.365>his <00:20:50.505>developer <00:20:50.645>guys <00:20:50.785>to <00:20:50.925>a <00:20:51.065>group <00:20:51.205>of <00:20:51.345>HR <00:20:51.485>people.

466
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<00:20:53.225>And <00:20:53.526>after <00:20:53.828>one <00:20:54.129>hour, <00:20:54.431>one

467
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<00:20:54.565>and <00:20:54.765>a <00:20:54.965>half <00:20:55.165>hours, <00:20:55.365>they <00:20:55.565>really <00:20:55.765>move <00:20:55.965>out

468
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<00:20:56.745>and <00:20:56.945>they <00:20:57.145>have <00:20:57.344>built <00:20:57.544>the <00:20:57.745>first <00:20:57.945>small <00:20:58.145>each.

469
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<00:20:59.105>And, <00:20:59.221>and <00:20:59.338>then <00:20:59.455>I <00:20:59.571>think <00:20:59.688>they <00:20:59.805>know, <00:20:59.921>okay, <00:21:00.038>this <00:21:00.155>is <00:21:00.271>a <00:21:00.388>tool. <00:21:00.505>Yeah.

470
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<00:21:02.085>I <00:21:02.365>can <00:21:02.645>use <00:21:02.925>it <00:21:03.205>from <00:21:03.485>myself.

471
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<00:21:04.265>And <00:21:04.498>then <00:21:04.731>I <00:21:04.965>think <00:21:05.198>curiosity <00:21:05.431>starts <00:21:05.665>automatically.

472
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<00:21:06.945>If <00:21:07.100>you <00:21:07.256>have <00:21:07.411>lost <00:21:07.567>the <00:21:07.722>first <00:21:07.878>kind <00:21:08.033>of <00:21:08.189>touching <00:21:08.345>fear,

473
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<00:21:10.005>I <00:21:10.145>think <00:21:10.285>the <00:21:10.425>next <00:21:10.565>thing <00:21:10.705>what <00:21:10.845>you <00:21:10.985>do <00:21:11.125>is <00:21:11.265>you <00:21:11.405>want

474
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<00:21:11.685>to <00:21:11.955>explore <00:21:12.225>it <00:21:12.495>for <00:21:12.764>yourself.

475
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<00:21:12.985>And <00:21:13.240>I <00:21:13.496>mean, <00:21:13.751>when <00:21:14.007>I <00:21:14.263>started

476
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<00:21:14.465>as <00:21:14.665>a <00:21:14.865>software <00:21:15.064>developer <00:21:15.264>in <00:21:15.465>the <00:21:15.665>late <00:21:15.865>eighties,

477
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<00:21:17.365>I <00:21:17.598>really <00:21:17.831>was <00:21:18.065>a <00:21:18.298>full <00:21:18.531>auto <00:21:18.765>detect.

478
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<00:21:19.445>I <00:21:19.600>have <00:21:19.756>never <00:21:19.911>attended <00:21:20.067>a <00:21:20.222>kind <00:21:20.378>of <00:21:20.533>a <00:21:20.689>programming <00:21:20.845>school.

479
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<00:21:23.185>Mm-hmm. <00:21:23.360>But <00:21:23.534>I <00:21:23.710>fell <00:21:23.885>into <00:21:24.060>the <00:21:24.235>trap <00:21:24.409>of <00:21:24.585>curiosity.

480
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<00:21:26.025>So <00:21:26.305>it <00:21:26.585>was <00:21:26.865>really <00:21:27.145>catching <00:21:27.425>me.

481
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<00:21:28.345>And <00:21:28.472>then <00:21:28.599>I <00:21:28.726>wanted <00:21:28.854>to <00:21:28.981>find <00:21:29.108>a <00:21:29.235>solution, <00:21:29.363>and <00:21:29.490>you <00:21:29.617>become <00:21:29.745>better

482
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<00:21:31.505>and <00:21:31.632>better <00:21:31.759>and <00:21:31.886>better <00:21:32.014>as <00:21:32.141>more <00:21:32.268>as <00:21:32.395>you <00:21:32.523>play <00:21:32.650>around <00:21:32.777>with <00:21:32.905>it.

483
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<00:21:33.825>And <00:21:33.965>I <00:21:34.105>think <00:21:34.245>that's <00:21:34.385>so <00:21:34.525>important. <00:21:34.665>That's <00:21:34.805>really <00:21:34.945>cool. <00:21:35.085>I <00:21:35.225>think

484
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<00:21:37.355>Rudy, <00:21:37.530>but <00:21:37.705>it's, <00:21:37.880>it's <00:21:38.055>also <00:21:38.230>like <00:21:38.405>gamier <00:21:38.580>this, <00:21:38.755>right?

485
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<00:21:39.795>Yeah. <00:21:40.028>There <00:21:40.261>is <00:21:40.495>so <00:21:40.728>many <00:21:40.961>good <00:21:41.195>examples.

486
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<00:21:42.265>The <00:21:42.465>one <00:21:42.665>advantage, <00:21:42.865>which, <00:21:43.065>uh, <00:21:43.265>pure <00:21:43.465>play <00:21:43.665>engineering,

487
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<00:21:46.865>you <00:21:47.099>have <00:21:47.333>to <00:21:47.567>have <00:21:47.801>the <00:21:48.034>expertise.

488
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<00:21:48.165>You <00:21:48.319>cannot <00:21:48.473>just <00:21:48.627>wake <00:21:48.782>up <00:21:48.936>in <00:21:49.090>the <00:21:49.245>morning

489
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<00:21:49.425>and <00:21:49.658>say, <00:21:49.891>I <00:21:50.125>will <00:21:50.358>write <00:21:50.591>a <00:21:50.825>code.

490
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<00:21:51.045>Right? <00:21:51.495>Yeah. <00:21:51.945>Um,

491
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<00:21:52.305>but <00:21:52.445>when <00:21:52.585>you <00:21:52.725>look <00:21:52.865>at <00:21:53.005>ai, <00:21:53.145>this <00:21:53.285>is <00:21:53.425>the <00:21:53.565>best <00:21:53.705>part.

492
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<00:21:55.595>Yeah. <00:21:55.828>As <00:21:56.061>functional <00:21:56.295>experts, <00:21:56.528>I <00:21:56.761>can <00:21:56.995>play

493
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<00:21:58.685>with <00:21:58.860>AI <00:21:59.034>without <00:21:59.210>knowing <00:21:59.385>how <00:21:59.560>to <00:21:59.735>code <00:21:59.909>as <00:22:00.085>well.

494
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<00:22:01.595>Yeah. <00:22:01.795>Yeah. <00:22:01.995>These, <00:22:02.195>these <00:22:02.395>are <00:22:02.595>examples <00:22:02.795>of <00:22:02.995>sometimes,

495
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<00:22:04.025>you <00:22:04.165>know, <00:22:04.305>somebody <00:22:04.445>that <00:22:04.585>I <00:22:04.725>know, <00:22:04.865>uh, <00:22:05.005>is <00:22:05.145>a, <00:22:05.285>is <00:22:05.425>a,

496
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<00:22:06.925>is <00:22:07.125>A-C-H-R-O, <00:22:07.325>she <00:22:07.524>built <00:22:07.725>a <00:22:07.925>website <00:22:08.125>on <00:22:08.325>lovable.

497
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<00:22:09.595>Yeah. <00:22:09.795>And <00:22:09.995>then <00:22:10.195>you <00:22:10.395>realize, <00:22:10.595>first <00:22:10.795>of <00:22:10.995>all,

498
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<00:22:12.465>sometimes <00:22:12.773>it <00:22:13.081>can <00:22:13.389>be <00:22:13.698>free.

499
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<00:22:14.015>So <00:22:14.248>the <00:22:14.481>cost <00:22:14.715>is <00:22:14.948>so <00:22:15.181>low. <00:22:15.415>Yeah.

500
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<00:22:15.895>The, <00:22:16.070>uh, <00:22:16.245>obstacles <00:22:16.420>to <00:22:16.595>entry <00:22:16.770>is <00:22:16.945>super <00:22:17.120>low. <00:22:17.295>Yeah.

501
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<00:22:19.485>There <00:22:19.625>are <00:22:19.764>apprehensions <00:22:19.905>to <00:22:20.044>people <00:22:20.185>beyond <00:22:20.324>a <00:22:20.465>level, <00:22:20.604>oh <00:22:20.745>my <00:22:20.885>God,

502
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<00:22:23.015>do <00:22:23.157>I <00:22:23.299>need <00:22:23.441>to <00:22:23.583>go <00:22:23.725>and <00:22:23.867>tell <00:22:24.009>a <00:22:24.151>hundred <00:22:24.293>people

503
00:22:24.435 --> 00:22:25.715
<00:22:24.435>that <00:22:24.599>I <00:22:24.764>don't <00:22:24.928>know <00:22:25.093>how <00:22:25.257>to <00:22:25.422>do <00:22:25.587>this?

504
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<00:22:25.895>No, <00:22:26.175>you're <00:22:26.455>chatting <00:22:26.735>with <00:22:27.014>something <00:22:27.295>inanimate.

505
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<00:22:28.535>So <00:22:28.768>that, <00:22:29.001>uh, <00:22:29.235>inhibition <00:22:29.468>is <00:22:29.701>also <00:22:29.935>low.

506
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<00:22:32.205>There <00:22:32.379>are <00:22:32.554>so <00:22:32.730>many <00:22:32.905>aspects <00:22:33.080>which <00:22:33.254>were <00:22:33.429>not <00:22:33.605>there

507
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<00:22:34.355>to <00:22:34.705>pure <00:22:35.055>technology <00:22:35.405>coming <00:22:35.755>in.

508
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<00:22:36.935>And <00:22:37.110>the, <00:22:37.284>if <00:22:37.460>we <00:22:37.635>can <00:22:37.810>expose <00:22:37.985>this <00:22:38.159>more <00:22:38.335>Yeah.

509
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<00:22:40.155>Then <00:22:40.295>there'll <00:22:40.435>be <00:22:40.575>more <00:22:40.715>people <00:22:40.855>coming <00:22:40.995>and, <00:22:41.135>uh, <00:22:41.274>taking <00:22:41.415>AI <00:22:41.555>on.

510
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<00:22:44.225>I'm <00:22:44.458>an, <00:22:44.691>I <00:22:44.925>I, <00:22:45.158>I <00:22:45.391>use <00:22:45.625>lovable

511
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<00:22:46.125>because <00:22:46.280>I'm, <00:22:46.436>I'm <00:22:46.591>very <00:22:46.747>active <00:22:46.902>in <00:22:47.058>our <00:22:47.213>church <00:22:47.369>community <00:22:47.525>in

512
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<00:22:49.605>the <00:22:49.848>smallridge <00:22:50.091>where <00:22:50.334>I <00:22:50.577>live.

513
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<00:22:50.685>And <00:22:50.812>once <00:22:50.939>a <00:22:51.066>year <00:22:51.194>we <00:22:51.321>have <00:22:51.448>a <00:22:51.575>kind <00:22:51.703>of <00:22:51.830>a, <00:22:51.957>a <00:22:52.085>a,

514
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<00:22:54.045>a <00:22:54.621>community <00:22:55.197>festival,

515
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<00:22:55.545>and <00:22:55.700>we <00:22:55.856>needed <00:22:56.011>a <00:22:56.167>cashier <00:22:56.322>desk <00:22:56.478>system, <00:22:56.633>which <00:22:56.789>helps <00:22:56.945>us

516
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<00:22:58.785>to <00:22:58.960>sell <00:22:59.135>our <00:22:59.310>schnitzel <00:22:59.485>and <00:22:59.660>whatever <00:22:59.835>we <00:23:00.010>sell <00:23:00.185>there.

517
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<00:23:01.795>Yeah. <00:23:02.075>Yeah. <00:23:02.355>And <00:23:02.635>there's <00:23:02.915>no <00:23:03.195>solution

518
00:23:03.885 --> 00:23:06.525
<00:23:03.885>because <00:23:04.040>it's <00:23:04.196>not <00:23:04.351>so <00:23:04.507>easy <00:23:04.662>to <00:23:04.818>get <00:23:04.973>an <00:23:05.129>official <00:23:05.285>one

519
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<00:23:06.525>because <00:23:06.795>of <00:23:07.065>the <00:23:07.335>tech <00:23:07.605>thing.

520
00:23:07.785 --> 00:23:11.085
<00:23:07.785>And, <00:23:07.940>uh, <00:23:08.096>discharge <00:23:08.251>communities <00:23:08.407>are, <00:23:08.562>are, <00:23:08.718>are <00:23:08.873>free <00:23:09.029>of, <00:23:09.185>uh,

521
00:23:11.105 --> 00:23:14.085
<00:23:11.105>if, <00:23:11.260>if, <00:23:11.416>if <00:23:11.571>the <00:23:11.727>income <00:23:11.882>is <00:23:12.038>below <00:23:12.193>a <00:23:12.349>certain <00:23:12.505>level.

522
00:23:14.585 --> 00:23:16.765
<00:23:14.585>So <00:23:14.785>I <00:23:14.985>sat <00:23:15.185>down <00:23:15.385>and <00:23:15.585>I <00:23:15.785>used <00:23:15.985>lovable,

523
00:23:16.765 --> 00:23:19.965
<00:23:16.765>and <00:23:16.881>I <00:23:16.998>prompted, <00:23:17.115>okay, <00:23:17.231>I <00:23:17.348>need <00:23:17.465>a <00:23:17.581>kind <00:23:17.698>of <00:23:17.815>a <00:23:17.931>casual <00:23:18.048>desk <00:23:18.165>system.

524
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<00:23:19.975>Could <00:23:20.196>you <00:23:20.417>write <00:23:20.639>one <00:23:20.860>for <00:23:21.081>me?

525
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<00:23:21.205>And <00:23:21.332>then <00:23:21.459>it <00:23:21.586>came <00:23:21.714>up, <00:23:21.841>of <00:23:21.968>course, <00:23:22.095>with <00:23:22.223>coal <00:23:22.350>slow <00:23:22.477>and <00:23:22.605>burgers

526
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<00:23:25.305>and <00:23:25.432>US <00:23:25.559>dollars <00:23:25.686>as <00:23:25.814>prices <00:23:25.941>and <00:23:26.068>the <00:23:26.195>set <00:23:26.323>of <00:23:26.450>a <00:23:26.577>second <00:23:26.705>prompt

527
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<00:23:29.045>and <00:23:29.220>said, <00:23:29.395>okay, <00:23:29.570>we <00:23:29.745>are <00:23:29.920>more <00:23:30.095>on <00:23:30.270>the <00:23:30.445>schnitzel

528
00:23:30.765 --> 00:23:32.605
<00:23:30.765>and <00:23:30.965>Brad, <00:23:31.165>we <00:23:31.365>are <00:23:31.565>still <00:23:31.765>side <00:23:31.965>in <00:23:32.165>Austria

529
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<00:23:33.225>and <00:23:33.425>we, <00:23:33.625>we <00:23:33.824>are <00:23:34.024>still <00:23:34.225>paying <00:23:34.425>in <00:23:34.625>euros,

530
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<00:23:35.245>so <00:23:35.460>could <00:23:35.677>you <00:23:35.893>change <00:23:36.109>that <00:23:36.324>for <00:23:36.541>me?

531
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<00:23:36.785>And, <00:23:37.235>but <00:23:37.685>within <00:23:38.135>one

532
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<00:23:38.285>and <00:23:38.460>a <00:23:38.635>half <00:23:38.810>hours, <00:23:38.985>playing <00:23:39.160>around <00:23:39.335>with <00:23:39.510>this <00:23:39.685>tool,

533
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<00:23:40.665>uh, <00:23:40.913>was <00:23:41.161>a <00:23:41.410>lot <00:23:41.658>of <00:23:41.907>fun.

534
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<00:23:42.365>I <00:23:42.540>had <00:23:42.715>a <00:23:42.890>solution <00:23:43.065>which <00:23:43.240>was <00:23:43.415>really <00:23:43.590>brilliantly <00:23:43.765>working,

535
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<00:23:44.745>and <00:23:44.885>then <00:23:45.024>I <00:23:45.165>said, <00:23:45.304>okay, <00:23:45.445>could <00:23:45.584>we <00:23:45.725>please <00:23:45.864>change <00:23:46.004>the <00:23:46.145>color

536
00:23:47.155 --> 00:23:49.575
<00:23:47.155>to <00:23:47.355>blue <00:23:47.555>because <00:23:47.754>that's <00:23:47.955>our <00:23:48.155>church <00:23:48.355>community <00:23:48.555>color,

537
00:23:49.875 --> 00:23:52.815
<00:23:49.875>and <00:23:50.015>then <00:23:50.155>want <00:23:50.295>have <00:23:50.435>the <00:23:50.575>logo <00:23:50.715>in <00:23:50.855>the <00:23:50.995>left <00:23:51.135>upper <00:23:51.275>corner.

538
00:23:53.515 --> 00:23:54.615
<00:23:53.515>And <00:23:53.680>at <00:23:53.845>the <00:23:54.010>end <00:23:54.175>of <00:23:54.340>the <00:23:54.505>day,

539
00:23:54.615 --> 00:23:56.255
<00:23:54.615>it <00:23:54.790>came <00:23:54.965>really <00:23:55.140>up <00:23:55.315>with <00:23:55.490>a <00:23:55.665>really <00:23:55.840>cool <00:23:56.015>solution.

540
00:23:56.635 --> 00:23:58.855
<00:23:56.635>And <00:23:56.810>we <00:23:56.985>had <00:23:57.160>a <00:23:57.335>discussion <00:23:57.510>with <00:23:57.685>him, <00:23:57.860>with <00:23:58.035>developers,

541
00:23:58.875 --> 00:24:00.615
<00:23:58.875>if <00:23:59.075>we <00:23:59.275>are <00:23:59.475>developers <00:23:59.675>is <00:23:59.875>still <00:24:00.075>right <00:24:00.275>name

542
00:24:00.615 --> 00:24:02.135
<00:24:00.615>because <00:24:00.888>we <00:24:01.162>are <00:24:01.435>having <00:24:01.709>HR <00:24:01.983>there

543
00:24:02.195 --> 00:24:04.575
<00:24:02.195>and <00:24:02.350>we <00:24:02.506>are <00:24:02.661>having <00:24:02.817>a <00:24:02.972>kind <00:24:03.128>of <00:24:03.283>C <00:24:03.439>levels <00:24:03.595>sta

544
00:24:04.635 --> 00:24:06.895
<00:24:04.635>and <00:24:04.835>it's <00:24:05.035>much <00:24:05.235>broader <00:24:05.435>than <00:24:05.635>we <00:24:05.835>are <00:24:06.035>developers.

545
00:24:06.895 --> 00:24:08.735
<00:24:06.895>And <00:24:07.175>then <00:24:07.455>I <00:24:07.735>said, <00:24:08.014>probably <00:24:08.295>not,

546
00:24:08.735 --> 00:24:11.655
<00:24:08.735>because <00:24:08.851>at <00:24:08.968>the <00:24:09.084>end <00:24:09.201>of <00:24:09.318>the <00:24:09.435>day, <00:24:09.551>10 <00:24:09.668>years <00:24:09.784>from <00:24:09.901>10 <00:24:10.018>years <00:24:10.135>ago,

547
00:24:11.655 --> 00:24:12.655
<00:24:11.655>nobody <00:24:12.105>would've <00:24:12.555>thought

548
00:24:12.655 --> 00:24:14.815
<00:24:12.655>that <00:24:12.855>we <00:24:13.055>are <00:24:13.254>all <00:24:13.455>doing <00:24:13.655>our <00:24:13.855>banking <00:24:14.055>business

549
00:24:14.835 --> 00:24:16.015
<00:24:14.835>on <00:24:15.189>our <00:24:15.543>smartphone <00:24:15.897>ourselves.

550
00:24:16.075 --> 00:24:18.935
<00:24:16.075>So <00:24:16.250>we <00:24:16.425>all <00:24:16.600>became <00:24:16.775>bankers <00:24:16.950>in <00:24:17.125>a <00:24:17.300>way. <00:24:17.475>Correct.

551
00:24:19.165 --> 00:24:21.295
<00:24:19.165>Correct. <00:24:19.320>And <00:24:19.476>that <00:24:19.631>mean <00:24:19.787>a <00:24:19.942>couple <00:24:20.098>of <00:24:20.253>years <00:24:20.409>from <00:24:20.565>now

552
00:24:21.295 --> 00:24:22.775
<00:24:21.295>with <00:24:21.628>all <00:24:21.961>these <00:24:22.294>white <00:24:22.627>coding

553
00:24:22.875 --> 00:24:24.815
<00:24:22.875>and <00:24:23.225>AI <00:24:23.575>tools, <00:24:23.925>every <00:24:24.275>one

554
00:24:24.815 --> 00:24:26.495
<00:24:24.815>of <00:24:24.990>us <00:24:25.165>will <00:24:25.340>be <00:24:25.515>a <00:24:25.690>software <00:24:25.865>developer <00:24:26.040>as <00:24:26.215>well.

555
00:24:26.715 --> 00:24:29.175
<00:24:26.715>We, <00:24:26.855>we <00:24:26.995>all, <00:24:27.135>that's, <00:24:27.274>that's <00:24:27.415>what <00:24:27.554>I <00:24:27.695>was <00:24:27.834>about <00:24:27.975>to <00:24:28.115>say.

556
00:24:29.175 --> 00:24:31.295
<00:24:29.175>We <00:24:29.330>are <00:24:29.486>all <00:24:29.641>developers. <00:24:29.797>We <00:24:29.952>are <00:24:30.108>all <00:24:30.263>architects. <00:24:30.419>Right. <00:24:30.575>So,

557
00:24:31.355 --> 00:24:33.095
<00:24:31.355>So <00:24:31.482>at <00:24:31.609>the <00:24:31.736>end <00:24:31.864>of <00:24:31.991>the <00:24:32.118>day, <00:24:32.245>we <00:24:32.373>all <00:24:32.500>could <00:24:32.627>come <00:24:32.755>to,

558
00:24:33.415 --> 00:24:34.815
<00:24:33.415>everyone <00:24:33.625>could <00:24:33.835>come <00:24:34.045>to <00:24:34.255>and <00:24:34.465>attend <00:24:34.675>our

559
00:24:34.815 --> 00:24:36.135
<00:24:34.815>conference <00:24:35.112>to, <00:24:35.409>to <00:24:35.706>meet <00:24:36.003>people.

560
00:24:36.485 --> 00:24:40.655
<00:24:36.485>That <00:24:36.625>inspiring. <00:24:36.764>I <00:24:36.905>have <00:24:37.044>another <00:24:37.185>point <00:24:37.324>that <00:24:37.465>I <00:24:37.604>want <00:24:37.745>to <00:24:37.885>discuss

561
00:24:40.655 --> 00:24:44.815
<00:24:40.655>with <00:24:40.795>you <00:24:40.935>because <00:24:41.075>now, <00:24:41.215>I <00:24:41.355>mean, <00:24:41.495>we <00:24:41.635>have <00:24:41.774>quite <00:24:41.915>clear <00:24:42.055>manager

562
00:24:44.955 --> 00:24:46.095
<00:24:44.955>and <00:24:45.468>leadership <00:24:45.981>roles.

563
00:24:46.195 --> 00:24:48.895
<00:24:46.195>So <00:24:46.311>it's <00:24:46.428>an <00:24:46.544>org <00:24:46.661>chart <00:24:46.778>and <00:24:46.895>you <00:24:47.011>have <00:24:47.128>a <00:24:47.245>leader <00:24:47.361>on <00:24:47.478>the <00:24:47.595>top,

564
00:24:48.915 --> 00:24:50.975
<00:24:48.915>and <00:24:49.115>then <00:24:49.315>you <00:24:49.514>have <00:24:49.715>some <00:24:49.915>humans <00:24:50.115>below <00:24:50.315>that.

565
00:24:51.795 --> 00:24:54.615
<00:24:51.795>If <00:24:51.970>now <00:24:52.145>AI <00:24:52.320>is <00:24:52.495>coming <00:24:52.670>into <00:24:52.845>our <00:24:53.020>business <00:24:53.195>lives

566
00:24:54.715 --> 00:24:58.495
<00:24:54.715>and <00:24:54.870>we <00:24:55.026>are <00:24:55.181>working <00:24:55.337>together <00:24:55.492>with <00:24:55.648>teammates, <00:24:55.803>uh, <00:24:55.959>AI <00:24:56.115>agents

567
00:24:58.735 --> 00:25:01.455
<00:24:58.735>and <00:24:59.014>whatever, <00:24:59.294>how <00:24:59.574>does <00:24:59.854>leadership <00:25:00.135>change?

568
00:25:01.455 --> 00:25:03.975
<00:25:01.455>Because <00:25:01.688>normally <00:25:01.921>I <00:25:02.155>think <00:25:02.388>then <00:25:02.621>the <00:25:02.855>leader

569
00:25:04.075 --> 00:25:07.335
<00:25:04.075>of <00:25:04.250>the <00:25:04.425>human <00:25:04.600>team <00:25:04.775>is <00:25:04.950>probably <00:25:05.125>not <00:25:05.300>the <00:25:05.475>best

570
00:25:07.395 --> 00:25:10.055
<00:25:07.395>of <00:25:07.595>leading <00:25:07.795>the <00:25:07.995>AI <00:25:08.195>agent <00:25:08.395>team <00:25:08.595>as <00:25:08.795>well.

571
00:25:10.075 --> 00:25:12.775
<00:25:10.075>Do <00:25:10.191>you <00:25:10.308>know <00:25:10.425>what <00:25:10.541>I <00:25:10.658>mean? <00:25:10.775>So <00:25:10.891>the <00:25:11.008>question <00:25:11.125>is, <00:25:11.241>do <00:25:11.358>we <00:25:11.475>have

572
00:25:12.775 --> 00:25:14.775
<00:25:12.775>to <00:25:13.008>rethink <00:25:13.241>our <00:25:13.475>leadership <00:25:13.708>models <00:25:13.941>as <00:25:14.175>well?

573
00:25:15.995 --> 00:25:18.355
<00:25:15.995>I <00:25:16.169>think, <00:25:16.344>uh, <00:25:16.520>we <00:25:16.695>have <00:25:16.870>to <00:25:17.044>rethink <00:25:17.219>our <00:25:17.395>tasks.

574
00:25:18.695 --> 00:25:20.875
<00:25:18.695>We <00:25:18.870>have <00:25:19.044>to <00:25:19.220>rethink <00:25:19.395>our <00:25:19.570>roles, <00:25:19.745>our <00:25:19.919>leadership <00:25:20.095>models.

575
00:25:21.625 --> 00:25:22.715
<00:25:21.625>Rudy, <00:25:21.952>we <00:25:22.279>also <00:25:22.606>have

576
00:25:22.715 --> 00:25:25.315
<00:25:22.715>to <00:25:22.915>think <00:25:23.115>about <00:25:23.314>rethinking <00:25:23.514>the <00:25:23.715>entire <00:25:23.915>swim <00:25:24.115>lanes.

577
00:25:25.735 --> 00:25:27.675
<00:25:25.735>The <00:25:25.968>biggest <00:25:26.201>friction <00:25:26.435>at <00:25:26.668>work <00:25:26.901>happens <00:25:27.135>when

578
00:25:27.675 --> 00:25:28.875
<00:25:27.675>swim <00:25:27.945>lanes <00:25:28.215>are <00:25:28.485>not <00:25:28.755>defined.

579
00:25:28.975 --> 00:25:32.395
<00:25:28.975>And, <00:25:29.149>um, <00:25:29.324>having <00:25:29.500>worked <00:25:29.675>with <00:25:29.850>different <00:25:30.024>sizes <00:25:30.199>of <00:25:30.375>organizations

580
00:25:32.395 --> 00:25:34.075
<00:25:32.395>that <00:25:32.628>from <00:25:32.861>one <00:25:33.095>Spectrum <00:25:33.328>and <00:25:33.561>Accenture, <00:25:33.795>where

581
00:25:34.095 --> 00:25:36.035
<00:25:34.095>to <00:25:34.328>the <00:25:34.561>t <00:25:34.795>everything <00:25:35.028>is <00:25:35.261>detailed <00:25:35.495>out.

582
00:25:36.035 --> 00:25:37.915
<00:25:36.035>And <00:25:36.315>then <00:25:36.595>a <00:25:36.875>scale <00:25:37.155>up <00:25:37.435>where

583
00:25:38.495 --> 00:25:40.075
<00:25:38.495>you <00:25:38.774>don't <00:25:39.054>even <00:25:39.334>have <00:25:39.614>job <00:25:39.895>descriptions.

584
00:25:40.575 --> 00:25:44.075
<00:25:40.575>So <00:25:40.715>we <00:25:40.855>have <00:25:40.995>to <00:25:41.135>re-look <00:25:41.275>at <00:25:41.415>those, <00:25:41.555>um, <00:25:41.695>creating <00:25:41.835>those <00:25:41.975>bases,

585
00:25:44.075 --> 00:25:45.875
<00:25:44.075>those <00:25:44.541>foundation <00:25:45.008>and <00:25:45.475>foundations.

586
00:25:45.935 --> 00:25:50.035
<00:25:45.935>And <00:25:46.110>what <00:25:46.284>I <00:25:46.460>envision <00:25:46.635>is <00:25:46.810>given <00:25:46.985>to <00:25:47.159>the <00:25:47.335>context,

587
00:25:50.165 --> 00:25:53.435
<00:25:50.165>there <00:25:50.340>could <00:25:50.514>be <00:25:50.690>some <00:25:50.865>areas <00:25:51.040>of, <00:25:51.215>uh, <00:25:51.389>job <00:25:51.565>roles

588
00:25:53.435 --> 00:25:55.755
<00:25:53.435>and <00:25:53.635>job <00:25:53.835>tasks <00:25:54.034>where <00:25:54.235>you <00:25:54.435>have <00:25:54.635>human <00:25:54.835>judgment,

589
00:25:56.445 --> 00:25:58.395
<00:25:56.445>human <00:25:57.145>intervention, <00:25:57.845>uh,

590
00:25:58.715 --> 00:26:01.395
<00:25:58.715>decision <00:25:58.948>making <00:25:59.181>at <00:25:59.415>a <00:25:59.648>very <00:25:59.881>heightened <00:26:00.115>level.

591
00:26:01.975 --> 00:26:03.515
<00:26:01.975>And <00:26:02.206>then <00:26:02.437>you <00:26:02.668>would <00:26:02.899>have <00:26:03.130>some <00:26:03.361>areas

592
00:26:03.725 --> 00:26:08.275
<00:26:03.725>where <00:26:03.852>if <00:26:03.979>you <00:26:04.106>are <00:26:04.234>only <00:26:04.361>analyzing, <00:26:04.488>uh, <00:26:04.615>look <00:26:04.743>at <00:26:04.870>analytics <00:26:04.997>as <00:26:05.125>a,

593
00:26:08.275 --> 00:26:09.715
<00:26:08.275>as, <00:26:08.534>uh, <00:26:08.793>as <00:26:09.052>a <00:26:09.311>department, <00:26:09.571>right?

594
00:26:09.715 --> 00:26:10.795
<00:26:09.715>So <00:26:09.909>there's <00:26:10.103>a <00:26:10.298>lot <00:26:10.492>of <00:26:10.687>work

595
00:26:11.225 --> 00:26:14.715
<00:26:11.225>that <00:26:11.458>can <00:26:11.691>undergo <00:26:11.925>you <00:26:12.158>automate <00:26:12.391>some <00:26:12.625>flows.

596
00:26:14.715 --> 00:26:17.195
<00:26:14.715>You <00:26:14.995>have <00:26:15.274>agents, <00:26:15.554>they're <00:26:15.834>passing <00:26:16.115>information

597
00:26:17.195 --> 00:26:21.075
<00:26:17.195>amongst <00:26:17.395>themselves, <00:26:17.595>and <00:26:17.794>you <00:26:17.995>ultimately <00:26:18.195>have <00:26:18.395>humans <00:26:18.595>tipping

598
00:26:21.175 --> 00:26:22.915
<00:26:21.175>in <00:26:21.524>to <00:26:21.875>check <00:26:22.225>wherever <00:26:22.575>needed

599
00:26:23.055 --> 00:26:25.435
<00:26:23.055>and <00:26:23.230>a <00:26:23.405>final <00:26:23.580>decision <00:26:23.755>maker <00:26:23.930>that <00:26:24.105>it <00:26:24.280>goes <00:26:24.455>to.

600
00:26:25.895 --> 00:26:28.915
<00:26:25.895>Do <00:26:26.011>you <00:26:26.128>need <00:26:26.245>a <00:26:26.361>manager <00:26:26.478>for <00:26:26.595>that <00:26:26.711>first <00:26:26.828>flow? <00:26:26.945>I <00:26:27.061>don't <00:26:27.178>think <00:26:27.295>so.

601
00:26:29.305 --> 00:26:31.915
<00:26:29.305>What, <00:26:29.480>you <00:26:29.655>probably <00:26:29.830>need <00:26:30.005>somebody <00:26:30.180>to <00:26:30.355>audit <00:26:30.530>that <00:26:30.705>flow.

602
00:26:31.935 --> 00:26:34.635
<00:26:31.935>So <00:26:32.090>you <00:26:32.246>don't <00:26:32.401>need <00:26:32.557>a <00:26:32.712>manager, <00:26:32.868>manager, <00:26:33.023>people <00:26:33.179>manager <00:26:33.335>there.

603
00:26:34.975 --> 00:26:37.235
<00:26:34.975>You <00:26:35.102>would <00:26:35.229>need <00:26:35.356>the <00:26:35.484>manager <00:26:35.611>at <00:26:35.738>the <00:26:35.865>end <00:26:35.993>of <00:26:36.120>the <00:26:36.247>flow <00:26:36.375>where

604
00:26:37.235 --> 00:26:39.475
<00:26:37.235>that <00:26:37.390>human <00:26:37.546>decision, <00:26:37.701>et <00:26:37.857>cetera, <00:26:38.012>kind <00:26:38.168>of <00:26:38.323>comes <00:26:38.479>in <00:26:38.635>place.

605
00:26:39.495 --> 00:26:41.435
<00:26:39.495>So <00:26:39.728>it'll <00:26:39.961>go <00:26:40.195>through <00:26:40.428>a <00:26:40.661>change <00:26:40.895>of

606
00:26:41.435 --> 00:26:42.715
<00:26:41.435>where <00:26:41.723>this <00:26:42.011>manager <00:26:42.299>is <00:26:42.587>sitting.

607
00:26:42.775 --> 00:26:44.005
<00:26:42.775>Is <00:26:42.996>it <00:26:43.217>always <00:26:43.439>at <00:26:43.660>the <00:26:43.882>top?

608
00:26:44.465 --> 00:26:48.685
<00:26:44.465>It <00:26:44.592>could <00:26:44.719>also <00:26:44.846>be <00:26:44.974>that <00:26:45.101>manager <00:26:45.228>in <00:26:45.355>a <00:26:45.483>sense, <00:26:45.610>becomes <00:26:45.737>a <00:26:45.865>part

609
00:26:48.685 --> 00:26:51.005
<00:26:48.685>of <00:26:48.840>the <00:26:48.996>wheel <00:26:49.151>where <00:26:49.307>the <00:26:49.462>manager <00:26:49.618>is <00:26:49.773>at <00:26:49.929>the <00:26:50.085>center

610
00:26:51.545 --> 00:26:52.565
<00:26:51.545>and <00:26:51.774>not <00:26:52.004>at <00:26:52.233>the <00:26:52.463>top.

611
00:26:52.905 --> 00:26:55.245
<00:26:52.905>And <00:26:53.138>you <00:26:53.371>have <00:26:53.605>more <00:26:53.838>leaders <00:26:54.071>coming <00:26:54.305>up.

612
00:26:55.245 --> 00:26:57.365
<00:26:55.245>And <00:26:55.385>that's, <00:26:55.524>this <00:26:55.665>is <00:26:55.804>one <00:26:55.945>thing <00:26:56.084>that <00:26:56.225>we <00:26:56.364>are <00:26:56.504>seeing, <00:26:56.645>seeing

613
00:26:57.365 --> 00:27:00.565
<00:26:57.365>with <00:26:57.520>most <00:26:57.676>organizations <00:26:57.831>as <00:26:57.987>well, <00:26:58.142>when <00:26:58.298>you <00:26:58.453>are, <00:26:58.609>are <00:26:58.765>reducing

614
00:27:00.635 --> 00:27:01.845
<00:27:00.635>that <00:27:01.179>manager <00:27:01.724>layer.

615
00:27:02.305 --> 00:27:04.845
<00:27:02.305>And <00:27:02.445>when <00:27:02.585>we <00:27:02.725>see <00:27:02.865>that <00:27:03.005>AI <00:27:03.145>is <00:27:03.285>coming <00:27:03.425>for <00:27:03.565>the <00:27:03.705>manager,

616
00:27:04.915 --> 00:27:07.805
<00:27:04.915>it's <00:27:05.070>not <00:27:05.226>coming <00:27:05.381>per <00:27:05.537>se <00:27:05.692>for <00:27:05.848>that <00:27:06.003>one <00:27:06.159>particular <00:27:06.315>manager,

617
00:27:08.225 --> 00:27:10.925
<00:27:08.225>but <00:27:08.399>it's <00:27:08.574>coming <00:27:08.750>for <00:27:08.925>that <00:27:09.100>layer <00:27:09.274>that <00:27:09.449>is <00:27:09.625>sitting

618
00:27:10.985 --> 00:27:12.125
<00:27:10.985>and <00:27:11.498>just <00:27:12.011>coordinating.

619
00:27:12.605 --> 00:27:14.245
<00:27:12.605>'cause <00:27:12.760>that <00:27:12.916>I <00:27:13.071>would <00:27:13.227>see <00:27:13.382>would <00:27:13.538>not <00:27:13.693>be <00:27:13.849>a <00:27:14.005>very

620
00:27:14.245 --> 00:27:15.405
<00:27:14.245>people <00:27:14.766>managers <00:27:15.289>role.

621
00:27:15.405 --> 00:27:17.725
<00:27:15.405>It'll <00:27:15.560>go <00:27:15.716>and <00:27:15.871>be <00:27:16.027>a <00:27:16.182>part <00:27:16.338>of <00:27:16.493>that <00:27:16.649>spin <00:27:16.805>wheel.

622
00:27:18.105 --> 00:27:19.645
<00:27:18.105>Mm-hmm. <00:27:19.491>Uh,

623
00:27:19.645 --> 00:27:23.125
<00:27:19.645>because <00:27:19.761>I, <00:27:19.878>I'm, <00:27:19.995>I, <00:27:20.111>I <00:27:20.228>came <00:27:20.345>up <00:27:20.461>a <00:27:20.578>couple <00:27:20.695>of <00:27:20.811>years <00:27:20.928>ago <00:27:21.045>already,

624
00:27:23.185 --> 00:27:25.405
<00:27:23.185>so <00:27:23.360>I <00:27:23.534>think <00:27:23.710>probably <00:27:23.885>10 <00:27:24.060>to <00:27:24.235>15 <00:27:24.409>years <00:27:24.585>already.

625
00:27:25.745 --> 00:27:27.645
<00:27:25.745>Mm-hmm. <00:27:25.978>Um, <00:27:26.211>uh, <00:27:26.445>when <00:27:26.678>I <00:27:26.911>was <00:27:27.145>working

626
00:27:27.675 --> 00:27:29.765
<00:27:27.675>with <00:27:27.908>my <00:27:28.141>own <00:27:28.375>company <00:27:28.608>at <00:27:28.841>SPEC <00:27:29.075>then,

627
00:27:29.785 --> 00:27:33.285
<00:27:29.785>and <00:27:29.940>we <00:27:30.096>did <00:27:30.251>a <00:27:30.407>lot <00:27:30.562>of <00:27:30.718>management, <00:27:30.873>um, <00:27:31.029>consulting <00:27:31.185>and,

628
00:27:33.305 --> 00:27:35.245
<00:27:33.305>and, <00:27:33.505>uh, <00:27:33.705>worked <00:27:33.905>a <00:27:34.105>lot <00:27:34.305>with, <00:27:34.505>with <00:27:34.705>leaders

629
00:27:35.245 --> 00:27:37.605
<00:27:35.245>and <00:27:35.524>management <00:27:35.804>teams <00:27:36.084>to <00:27:36.364>help <00:27:36.645>them

630
00:27:37.625 --> 00:27:39.565
<00:27:37.625>to <00:27:37.800>build <00:27:37.975>up <00:27:38.150>the <00:27:38.325>right <00:27:38.500>culture <00:27:38.675>for <00:27:38.850>the <00:27:39.025>future.

631
00:27:40.145 --> 00:27:42.925
<00:27:40.145>That's <00:27:40.345>what, <00:27:40.545>that's <00:27:40.745>our <00:27:40.945>business <00:27:41.145>in <00:27:41.345>that <00:27:41.545>company.

632
00:27:43.545 --> 00:27:47.005
<00:27:43.545>And <00:27:43.661>I <00:27:43.778>came <00:27:43.895>up <00:27:44.011>with <00:27:44.128>the, <00:27:44.245>with <00:27:44.361>just <00:27:44.478>a <00:27:44.595>thesis <00:27:44.711>where <00:27:44.828>I <00:27:44.945>said,

633
00:27:47.035 --> 00:27:50.925
<00:27:47.035>okay, <00:27:47.190>probably <00:27:47.346>in <00:27:47.501>the <00:27:47.657>future <00:27:47.812>you <00:27:47.968>can't <00:27:48.123>recognize <00:27:48.279>the <00:27:48.435>manager

634
00:27:51.665 --> 00:27:53.365
<00:27:51.665>on <00:27:51.898>the <00:27:52.131>flying <00:27:52.365>height <00:27:52.598>of <00:27:52.831>the <00:27:53.065>organization.

635
00:27:53.425 --> 00:27:54.725
<00:27:53.425>So <00:27:53.658>he <00:27:53.893>always <00:27:54.127>sits <00:27:54.360>on <00:27:54.594>top.

636
00:27:55.385 --> 00:27:58.045
<00:27:55.385>And <00:27:55.525>my <00:27:55.665>thesis <00:27:55.805>was, <00:27:55.945>it's <00:27:56.085>probably <00:27:56.225>the <00:27:56.365>guy <00:27:56.504>in <00:27:56.645>the <00:27:56.785>organization

637
00:27:58.065 --> 00:27:59.765
<00:27:58.065>who <00:27:58.345>has <00:27:58.625>the <00:27:58.905>most <00:27:59.185>connection <00:27:59.465>dots.

638
00:27:59.945 --> 00:28:01.725
<00:27:59.945>Mm-hmm. <00:28:00.411>Yep. <00:28:00.878>Duh. <00:28:01.345>Yeah.

639
00:28:01.725 --> 00:28:03.965
<00:28:01.725>That, <00:28:01.899>that's <00:28:02.074>why <00:28:02.250>like <00:28:02.425>this <00:28:02.600>is <00:28:02.774>something <00:28:02.949>similar <00:28:03.125>right.

640
00:28:04.105 --> 00:28:05.165
<00:28:04.105>In <00:28:04.423>the <00:28:04.741>center. <00:28:05.059>Yeah.

641
00:28:05.165 --> 00:28:07.205
<00:28:05.165>So <00:28:05.365>you <00:28:05.565>would <00:28:05.764>have <00:28:05.965>those <00:28:06.165>lines <00:28:06.365>going <00:28:06.565>everywhere.

642
00:28:07.465 --> 00:28:09.165
<00:28:07.465>Yes. <00:28:07.665>Yeah. <00:28:07.865>Uh, <00:28:08.064>and <00:28:08.264>we <00:28:08.465>agree <00:28:08.665>on <00:28:08.865>that.

643
00:28:10.425 --> 00:28:12.845
<00:28:10.425>If <00:28:10.658>you <00:28:10.891>talk <00:28:11.125>about <00:28:11.358>leadership <00:28:11.591>skills. <00:28:11.825>Yeah.

644
00:28:13.385 --> 00:28:17.155
<00:28:13.385>Uh, <00:28:13.560>what <00:28:13.735>do <00:28:13.910>you <00:28:14.085>think <00:28:14.260>is, <00:28:14.435>uh, <00:28:14.610>the <00:28:14.785>two

645
00:28:17.215 --> 00:28:20.915
<00:28:17.215>or <00:28:17.495>three <00:28:17.774>upcoming <00:28:18.054>most <00:28:18.334>necessary <00:28:18.615>skills

646
00:28:21.055 --> 00:28:23.435
<00:28:21.055>and <00:28:21.288>what <00:28:21.521>probably <00:28:21.755>are <00:28:21.988>the, <00:28:22.221>that <00:28:22.455>one

647
00:28:23.435 --> 00:28:24.835
<00:28:23.435>that <00:28:23.645>we <00:28:23.855>can <00:28:24.065>leave <00:28:24.275>along <00:28:24.485>the <00:28:24.695>way

648
00:28:24.835 --> 00:28:27.595
<00:28:24.835>because <00:28:24.975>they <00:28:25.115>probably <00:28:25.255>are <00:28:25.395>not <00:28:25.535>needed <00:28:25.675>in <00:28:25.815>the, <00:28:25.955>in <00:28:26.095>the <00:28:26.235>future,

649
00:28:28.015 --> 00:28:29.195
<00:28:28.015>in, <00:28:28.227>in <00:28:28.439>this <00:28:28.652>kind <00:28:28.864>of <00:28:29.077>future?

650
00:28:30.485 --> 00:28:34.085
<00:28:30.485>I <00:28:30.640>think <00:28:30.796>what <00:28:30.951>will <00:28:31.107>be <00:28:31.262>needed <00:28:31.418>will <00:28:31.573>be <00:28:31.729>storytelling <00:28:31.885>context

651
00:28:34.085 --> 00:28:35.885
<00:28:34.085>setting <00:28:34.435>would <00:28:34.785>be <00:28:35.135>very <00:28:35.485>important.

652
00:28:36.665 --> 00:28:38.765
<00:28:36.665>And <00:28:36.840>this <00:28:37.014>context <00:28:37.190>setting <00:28:37.365>may <00:28:37.540>not <00:28:37.715>just <00:28:37.889>be <00:28:38.065>verbal.

653
00:28:38.865 --> 00:28:40.805
<00:28:38.865>It <00:28:39.145>has <00:28:39.425>to <00:28:39.705>be <00:28:39.985>documented. <00:28:40.265>Mm-hmm.

654
00:28:40.985 --> 00:28:44.405
<00:28:40.985>You <00:28:41.218>cannot <00:28:41.451>expect <00:28:41.685>humans <00:28:41.918>can <00:28:42.151>connect <00:28:42.385>dots.

655
00:28:45.165 --> 00:28:47.565
<00:28:45.165>I <00:28:45.320>still <00:28:45.476>don't <00:28:45.631>know <00:28:45.787>if <00:28:45.942>AI <00:28:46.098>agents <00:28:46.253>will <00:28:46.409>be <00:28:46.565>able

656
00:28:47.565 --> 00:28:49.165
<00:28:47.565>to <00:28:47.765>connect <00:28:47.965>the <00:28:48.165>dots <00:28:48.365>that <00:28:48.565>are <00:28:48.765>not <00:28:48.965>mentioned.

657
00:28:49.505 --> 00:28:51.845
<00:28:49.505>You <00:28:49.680>shared <00:28:49.855>an <00:28:50.030>example <00:28:50.205>in, <00:28:50.380>in <00:28:50.555>your <00:28:50.730>previous, <00:28:50.905>uh,

658
00:28:52.205 --> 00:28:54.485
<00:28:52.205>question <00:28:52.485>when <00:28:52.764>you <00:28:53.044>mentioned <00:28:53.324>that <00:28:53.605>AI

659
00:28:54.705 --> 00:28:58.205
<00:28:54.705>or, <00:28:54.860>uh, <00:28:55.016>gave <00:28:55.171>you, <00:28:55.327>uh, <00:28:55.482>burgers <00:28:55.638>and, <00:28:55.793>and <00:28:55.949>dollar, <00:28:56.105>right?

660
00:28:58.345 --> 00:29:01.605
<00:28:58.345>Mm-hmm. <00:28:58.578>So <00:28:58.811>AI <00:28:59.045>will <00:28:59.278>make <00:28:59.511>those <00:28:59.745>assumptions.

661
00:29:01.605 --> 00:29:03.045
<00:29:01.605>You <00:29:01.864>have <00:29:02.123>to <00:29:02.382>prevent <00:29:02.641>that. <00:29:02.901>Yeah.

662
00:29:03.065 --> 00:29:06.645
<00:29:03.065>You <00:29:03.220>have <00:29:03.376>to <00:29:03.531>provide <00:29:03.687>a <00:29:03.842>hundred <00:29:03.998>percent, <00:29:04.153>120% <00:29:04.309>maybe <00:29:04.465>context.

663
00:29:07.025 --> 00:29:09.725
<00:29:07.025>Mm-hmm. <00:29:07.225>Uh, <00:29:07.425>so <00:29:07.625>storytelling <00:29:07.825>is <00:29:08.025>very <00:29:08.225>important. <00:29:08.425>Mm-hmm.

664
00:29:09.885 --> 00:29:11.445
<00:29:09.885>Storytelling <00:29:10.351>is <00:29:10.818>also <00:29:11.285>important

665
00:29:11.525 --> 00:29:15.695
<00:29:11.525>because <00:29:11.665>along <00:29:11.805>with <00:29:11.945>ai, <00:29:12.085>you <00:29:12.225>have <00:29:12.365>to <00:29:12.505>keep <00:29:12.645>your <00:29:12.785>human, <00:29:12.925>uh,

666
00:29:16.505 --> 00:29:19.415
<00:29:16.505>folks <00:29:16.705>in <00:29:16.905>the <00:29:17.105>team <00:29:17.305>or <00:29:17.505>human <00:29:17.705>and <00:29:17.905>agents.

667
00:29:19.435 --> 00:29:20.975
<00:29:19.435>So <00:29:19.712>humans <00:29:19.989>in <00:29:20.266>the <00:29:20.543>team <00:29:20.821>inspired

668
00:29:21.285 --> 00:29:23.535
<00:29:21.285>because <00:29:21.440>they, <00:29:21.596>they <00:29:21.751>are <00:29:21.907>still <00:29:22.062>going <00:29:22.218>to <00:29:22.373>work <00:29:22.529>with <00:29:22.685>this.

669
00:29:23.535 --> 00:29:25.655
<00:29:23.535>So <00:29:23.768>I <00:29:24.001>think <00:29:24.235>that <00:29:24.468>narrative <00:29:24.701>context, <00:29:24.935>uh,

670
00:29:25.675 --> 00:29:26.935
<00:29:25.675>is <00:29:26.053>super, <00:29:26.431>super <00:29:26.809>important.

671
00:29:27.355 --> 00:29:30.255
<00:29:27.355>The <00:29:27.588>second <00:29:27.821>is <00:29:28.055>empathy <00:29:28.288>and <00:29:28.521>judgment. <00:29:28.755>Mm-hmm.

672
00:29:30.375 --> 00:29:32.095
<00:29:30.375>This <00:29:30.608>is, <00:29:30.841>this <00:29:31.075>has <00:29:31.308>to <00:29:31.541>be <00:29:31.775>heightened.

673
00:29:32.675 --> 00:29:35.695
<00:29:32.675>Um, <00:29:32.830>the <00:29:32.986>judgment <00:29:33.141>aspect <00:29:33.297>has <00:29:33.452>to <00:29:33.608>be <00:29:33.763>heightened <00:29:33.919>as <00:29:34.075>well,

674
00:29:35.695 --> 00:29:39.135
<00:29:35.695>because <00:29:35.895>you <00:29:36.095>sometimes <00:29:36.294>need <00:29:36.495>to <00:29:36.695>check <00:29:36.895>what <00:29:37.095>is

675
00:29:39.355 --> 00:29:40.735
<00:29:39.355>behind <00:29:39.976>that <00:29:40.597>ai.

676
00:29:40.795 --> 00:29:44.365
<00:29:40.795>If <00:29:40.922>you <00:29:41.049>have <00:29:41.176>even <00:29:41.304>a <00:29:41.431>tiny <00:29:41.558>decision <00:29:41.685>that <00:29:41.813>your <00:29:41.940>agent <00:29:42.067>is <00:29:42.195>making,

677
00:29:44.755 --> 00:29:46.685
<00:29:44.755>what <00:29:45.105>is <00:29:45.455>behind <00:29:45.805>continuous <00:29:46.155>auditing?

678
00:29:47.015 --> 00:29:49.725
<00:29:47.015>Where <00:29:47.190>are <00:29:47.365>you <00:29:47.540>basing <00:29:47.715>your <00:29:47.890>judgment <00:29:48.065>or <00:29:48.240>decision <00:29:48.415>on?

679
00:29:49.745 --> 00:29:51.005
<00:29:49.745>So <00:29:50.028>you <00:29:50.312>need <00:29:50.595>to <00:29:50.879>understand,

680
00:29:51.425 --> 00:29:53.125
<00:29:51.425>you <00:29:51.705>don't <00:29:51.985>make <00:29:52.264>those <00:29:52.544>decisions <00:29:52.825>on

681
00:29:53.125 --> 00:29:54.525
<00:29:53.125>assumptions <00:29:53.440>that <00:29:53.755>AI <00:29:54.070>is <00:29:54.385>making.

682
00:29:54.545 --> 00:29:55.965
<00:29:54.545>So <00:29:54.800>that <00:29:55.056>has <00:29:55.311>to <00:29:55.567>be <00:29:55.822>owned.

683
00:29:56.465 --> 00:29:58.365
<00:29:56.465>And <00:29:56.745>this <00:29:57.024>comes <00:29:57.304>from <00:29:57.584>functional <00:29:57.865>expertise.

684
00:29:58.965 --> 00:30:00.845
<00:29:58.965>'cause <00:29:59.165>a <00:29:59.365>lot <00:29:59.564>of <00:29:59.764>times <00:29:59.965>you, <00:30:00.165>you <00:30:00.365>know,

685
00:30:00.865 --> 00:30:02.685
<00:30:00.865>you <00:30:01.065>just <00:30:01.265>know <00:30:01.465>there's <00:30:01.665>a <00:30:01.865>gut <00:30:02.065>feel, <00:30:02.265>right?

686
00:30:02.685 --> 00:30:04.925
<00:30:02.685>Because <00:30:02.918>of <00:30:03.151>your <00:30:03.385>experiences, <00:30:03.618>how <00:30:03.851>things <00:30:04.085>happens.

687
00:30:05.425 --> 00:30:07.125
<00:30:05.425>And <00:30:05.658>that's <00:30:05.891>something <00:30:06.125>that <00:30:06.358>you'll <00:30:06.591>know <00:30:06.825>from

688
00:30:07.395 --> 00:30:08.445
<00:30:07.395>this <00:30:07.710>experience <00:30:08.024>as <00:30:08.340>well.

689
00:30:08.465 --> 00:30:10.365
<00:30:08.465>So <00:30:08.814>those <00:30:09.165>are <00:30:09.514>heightened <00:30:09.865>aspects.

690
00:30:10.505 --> 00:30:15.285
<00:30:10.505>Uh, <00:30:10.632>as <00:30:10.759>a, <00:30:10.886>as <00:30:11.014>a <00:30:11.141>leader, <00:30:11.268>what <00:30:11.395>can <00:30:11.523>you <00:30:11.650>probably <00:30:11.777>drop, <00:30:11.905>uh,

691
00:30:15.285 --> 00:30:18.965
<00:30:15.285>like <00:30:15.440>I <00:30:15.596>mentioned <00:30:15.751>earlier, <00:30:15.907>I <00:30:16.062>guess <00:30:16.218>is <00:30:16.373>this <00:30:16.529>very <00:30:16.685>hard.

692
00:30:19.125 --> 00:30:22.245
<00:30:19.125>A <00:30:19.280>lot <00:30:19.436>of <00:30:19.591>leaders <00:30:19.747>do <00:30:19.902>that <00:30:20.058>very <00:30:20.213>hard <00:30:20.369>control <00:30:20.525>aspect.

693
00:30:22.505 --> 00:30:24.205
<00:30:22.505>You <00:30:22.738>can <00:30:22.971>drop <00:30:23.205>that, <00:30:23.438>that <00:30:23.671>won't <00:30:23.905>work

694
00:30:24.225 --> 00:30:25.485
<00:30:24.225>in <00:30:24.414>a, <00:30:24.602>in <00:30:24.792>a <00:30:24.981>system <00:30:25.169>like <00:30:25.359>that.

695
00:30:25.485 --> 00:30:29.045
<00:30:25.485>Because <00:30:25.685>interestingly <00:30:25.885>today, <00:30:26.084>I <00:30:26.284>know <00:30:26.485>we <00:30:26.685>are <00:30:26.885>working

696
00:30:29.045 --> 00:30:31.445
<00:30:29.045>with <00:30:29.278>modern <00:30:29.511>organizations <00:30:29.745>where, <00:30:29.978>anyways, <00:30:30.211>it's <00:30:30.445>not

697
00:30:31.595 --> 00:30:33.205
<00:30:31.595>that <00:30:31.875>your <00:30:32.155>title <00:30:32.435>makes <00:30:32.715>you <00:30:32.995>lead,

698
00:30:33.205 --> 00:30:34.845
<00:30:33.205>it's <00:30:33.438>your <00:30:33.671>influence <00:30:33.905>that <00:30:34.138>makes <00:30:34.371>you <00:30:34.605>lead.

699
00:30:35.505 --> 00:30:37.565
<00:30:35.505>But <00:30:35.705>a <00:30:35.905>lot <00:30:36.105>of <00:30:36.305>people <00:30:36.505>still <00:30:36.705>think, <00:30:36.905>um,

700
00:30:37.885 --> 00:30:40.565
<00:30:37.885>hierarchical <00:30:38.085>organizations, <00:30:38.285>just <00:30:38.485>because <00:30:38.685>I <00:30:38.885>have <00:30:39.085>a <00:30:39.285>director

701
00:30:40.565 --> 00:30:42.805
<00:30:40.565>or <00:30:40.720>a <00:30:40.876>VP <00:30:41.031>title, <00:30:41.187>you're <00:30:41.342>supposed <00:30:41.498>to <00:30:41.653>listen <00:30:41.809>to <00:30:41.965>me.

702
00:30:43.725 --> 00:30:45.735
<00:30:43.725>That <00:30:43.925>agent <00:30:44.125>is <00:30:44.324>not <00:30:44.524>gonna <00:30:44.725>listen <00:30:44.925>to <00:30:45.125>you.

703
00:30:45.755 --> 00:30:47.175
<00:30:45.755>It <00:30:45.937>doesn't <00:30:46.120>care <00:30:46.302>less <00:30:46.485>if <00:30:46.667>you <00:30:46.850>are <00:30:47.033>a

704
00:30:47.175 --> 00:30:48.335
<00:30:47.175>prince <00:30:47.349>or <00:30:47.523>a <00:30:47.697>queen <00:30:47.871>or <00:30:48.045>a <00:30:48.219>king.

705
00:30:48.565 --> 00:30:50.775
<00:30:48.565>Yeah. <00:30:48.845>If <00:30:49.125>you <00:30:49.405>don't <00:30:49.685>put <00:30:49.965>guardrails

706
00:30:50.875 --> 00:30:53.655
<00:30:50.875>and <00:30:51.075>ensure <00:30:51.275>that <00:30:51.475>the <00:30:51.675>agent <00:30:51.875>is <00:30:52.075>naugh <00:30:52.275>naughty,

707
00:30:54.195 --> 00:30:56.415
<00:30:54.195>the <00:30:54.395>agent <00:30:54.595>will <00:30:54.794>get <00:30:54.995>naughty <00:30:55.195>and <00:30:55.395>make <00:30:55.595>assumptions

708
00:30:56.435 --> 00:30:57.655
<00:30:56.435>and <00:30:56.801>make <00:30:57.167>wrong <00:30:57.533>decisions.

709
00:30:57.715 --> 00:31:01.055
<00:30:57.715>So <00:30:57.855>that <00:30:57.995>is <00:30:58.135>something <00:30:58.274>that <00:30:58.415>you <00:30:58.554>have <00:30:58.695>to <00:30:58.834>ensure <00:30:58.975>that <00:30:59.115>Yeah.

710
00:31:01.075 --> 00:31:02.175
<00:31:01.075>You <00:31:01.322>change <00:31:01.570>your <00:31:01.817>ways <00:31:02.065>there.

711
00:31:02.405 --> 00:31:04.295
<00:31:02.405>Yeah, <00:31:02.754>that's, <00:31:03.105>that's <00:31:03.455>for <00:31:03.805>sure.

712
00:31:05.255 --> 00:31:07.775
<00:31:05.255>I <00:31:05.395>mean, <00:31:05.535>if <00:31:05.675>you <00:31:05.815>look <00:31:05.955>on, <00:31:06.095>on <00:31:06.235>human <00:31:06.375>motivation, <00:31:06.515>I <00:31:06.655>mean,

713
00:31:07.775 --> 00:31:10.175
<00:31:07.775>we <00:31:07.915>all <00:31:08.055>were <00:31:08.195>trained <00:31:08.335>from, <00:31:08.475>I <00:31:08.615>think <00:31:08.755>from <00:31:08.895>the <00:31:09.035>very <00:31:09.175>beginning

714
00:31:10.175 --> 00:31:13.895
<00:31:10.175>that <00:31:10.330>productivity <00:31:10.486>is <00:31:10.641>probably <00:31:10.797>also <00:31:10.952>giving <00:31:11.108>us <00:31:11.263>topamine <00:31:11.419>at <00:31:11.575>the

715
00:31:13.895 --> 00:31:16.255
<00:31:13.895>end <00:31:14.050>of <00:31:14.206>the <00:31:14.361>day, <00:31:14.517>because <00:31:14.672>we <00:31:14.828>are <00:31:14.983>measured <00:31:15.139>on <00:31:15.295>productivity,

716
00:31:16.305 --> 00:31:18.175
<00:31:16.305>we're <00:31:16.655>measured, <00:31:17.005>measured <00:31:17.355>on <00:31:17.705>outcomes.

717
00:31:18.515 --> 00:31:20.055
<00:31:18.515>If <00:31:18.792>you <00:31:19.069>look <00:31:19.346>on <00:31:19.623>talent <00:31:19.901>acquisition,

718
00:31:20.395 --> 00:31:23.895
<00:31:20.395>to <00:31:20.522>take <00:31:20.649>this <00:31:20.776>example <00:31:20.904>again, <00:31:21.031>it's <00:31:21.158>at <00:31:21.285>the <00:31:21.413>end <00:31:21.540>of <00:31:21.667>the <00:31:21.795>day,

719
00:31:23.895 --> 00:31:25.415
<00:31:23.895>it's <00:31:24.168>time <00:31:24.442>to <00:31:24.715>hire <00:31:24.989>or <00:31:25.263>it's

720
00:31:25.415 --> 00:31:27.055
<00:31:25.415>how <00:31:25.695>many <00:31:25.975>positions <00:31:26.254>have <00:31:26.534>you <00:31:26.815>filled

721
00:31:27.055 --> 00:31:28.255
<00:31:27.055>within <00:31:27.325>what <00:31:27.595>period <00:31:27.865>of <00:31:28.135>time.

722
00:31:28.315 --> 00:31:29.535
<00:31:28.315>So <00:31:28.864>it's <00:31:29.413>productivity.

723
00:31:30.275 --> 00:31:32.735
<00:31:30.275>And <00:31:30.508>I <00:31:30.741>think <00:31:30.975>we <00:31:31.208>are <00:31:31.441>trained <00:31:31.675>on

724
00:31:33.825 --> 00:31:36.295
<00:31:33.825>being <00:31:34.058>happy <00:31:34.291>if <00:31:34.525>productivity <00:31:34.758>levels <00:31:34.991>are <00:31:35.225>right,

725
00:31:36.915 --> 00:31:39.175
<00:31:36.915>if <00:31:37.148>now <00:31:37.381>agents <00:31:37.615>take <00:31:37.848>care <00:31:38.081>about <00:31:38.315>the

726
00:31:39.175 --> 00:31:40.375
<00:31:39.175>productivity <00:31:39.534>in <00:31:39.895>the <00:31:40.255>future.

727
00:31:40.595 --> 00:31:43.935
<00:31:40.595>So <00:31:40.795>that's <00:31:40.995>probably <00:31:41.195>their <00:31:41.395>becoming <00:31:41.595>their <00:31:41.795>part. <00:31:41.995>Yeah.

728
00:31:44.235 --> 00:31:46.295
<00:31:44.235>And <00:31:44.435>they <00:31:44.635>could <00:31:44.834>be <00:31:45.034>proud <00:31:45.235>on <00:31:45.435>their <00:31:45.635>productivity.

729
00:31:47.485 --> 00:31:49.855
<00:31:47.485>What, <00:31:47.685>what <00:31:47.885>is <00:31:48.084>the <00:31:48.284>motivation <00:31:48.485>for <00:31:48.685>the <00:31:48.885>humans?

730
00:31:50.055 --> 00:31:51.975
<00:31:50.055>I <00:31:50.255>mean, <00:31:50.455>if <00:31:50.655>you <00:31:50.855>take <00:31:51.055>the <00:31:51.255>talent <00:31:51.455>acquisition

731
00:31:51.975 --> 00:31:53.935
<00:31:51.975>and <00:31:52.324>talent <00:31:52.675>architect <00:31:53.024>example <00:31:53.375>again.

732
00:31:53.935 --> 00:31:56.175
<00:31:53.935>Yeah. <00:31:54.135>So <00:31:54.335>the <00:31:54.534>role <00:31:54.735>is <00:31:54.935>more <00:31:55.135>the <00:31:55.335>architect

733
00:31:56.195 --> 00:31:59.255
<00:31:56.195>and <00:31:56.370>that, <00:31:56.544>uh, <00:31:56.720>what <00:31:56.895>is <00:31:57.070>the <00:31:57.245>kind <00:31:57.419>of, <00:31:57.595>uh,

734
00:31:59.815 --> 00:32:02.055
<00:31:59.815>dopamine <00:32:00.165>source <00:32:00.515>then <00:32:00.865>for <00:32:01.215>humans?

735
00:32:03.535 --> 00:32:05.375
<00:32:03.535>I, <00:32:03.815>um, <00:32:04.095>Rudy, <00:32:04.375>the <00:32:04.655>dopamine <00:32:04.935>source

736
00:32:05.375 --> 00:32:08.695
<00:32:05.375>for <00:32:05.575>humans <00:32:05.775>should <00:32:05.975>move <00:32:06.175>towards <00:32:06.375>quality <00:32:06.575>and <00:32:06.775>experience.

737
00:32:08.955 --> 00:32:13.055
<00:32:08.955>Mm-hmm. <00:32:09.082>Um, <00:32:09.209>and <00:32:09.336>this <00:32:09.464>is <00:32:09.591>a <00:32:09.718>conversation <00:32:09.845>at <00:32:09.973>in <00:32:10.100>the <00:32:10.227>ts <00:32:10.355>t

738
00:32:13.055 --> 00:32:15.095
<00:32:13.055>and <00:32:13.210>HR <00:32:13.366>space <00:32:13.521>we've <00:32:13.677>been <00:32:13.832>having <00:32:13.988>for <00:32:14.143>some <00:32:14.299>time <00:32:14.455>now.

739
00:32:15.745 --> 00:32:19.095
<00:32:15.745>We've <00:32:15.919>kind <00:32:16.094>of <00:32:16.270>looked <00:32:16.445>at <00:32:16.620>a <00:32:16.794>era <00:32:16.969>where <00:32:17.145>buts

740
00:32:19.095 --> 00:32:22.575
<00:32:19.095>and <00:32:19.222>seats <00:32:19.349>were <00:32:19.476>great, <00:32:19.604>but <00:32:19.731>now <00:32:19.858>we <00:32:19.985>want <00:32:20.113>to <00:32:20.240>look <00:32:20.367>at <00:32:20.495>longevity.

741
00:32:22.715 --> 00:32:25.215
<00:32:22.715>We <00:32:22.889>want <00:32:23.064>to <00:32:23.240>look <00:32:23.415>at <00:32:23.590>time <00:32:23.764>to <00:32:23.939>ramp <00:32:24.115>velocity

742
00:32:25.595 --> 00:32:27.695
<00:32:25.595>or <00:32:25.735>time, <00:32:25.875>you <00:32:26.015>know, <00:32:26.155>the <00:32:26.295>velocity <00:32:26.435>to <00:32:26.575>ramp <00:32:26.715>should <00:32:26.855>be <00:32:26.995>higher.

743
00:32:27.755 --> 00:32:29.255
<00:32:27.755>The <00:32:28.025>time <00:32:28.295>to <00:32:28.565>ramp <00:32:28.835>has <00:32:29.105>reduced.

744
00:32:29.835 --> 00:32:33.895
<00:32:29.835>Uh, <00:32:29.962>ELTV, <00:32:30.089>you <00:32:30.216>need <00:32:30.344>to <00:32:30.471>reach <00:32:30.598>ELTV <00:32:30.725>of <00:32:30.853>an <00:32:30.980>employee <00:32:31.107>as <00:32:31.235>fast

745
00:32:33.915 --> 00:32:35.775
<00:32:33.915>as <00:32:34.115>you, <00:32:34.315>uh, <00:32:34.514>as <00:32:34.715>you <00:32:34.915>can, <00:32:35.115>et <00:32:35.315>cetera.

746
00:32:36.075 --> 00:32:39.325
<00:32:36.075>So <00:32:36.215>that <00:32:36.355>quality <00:32:36.495>aspect <00:32:36.635>is <00:32:36.775>where <00:32:36.915>the <00:32:37.055>human <00:32:37.195>part <00:32:37.335>comes <00:32:37.475>in.

747
00:32:39.795 --> 00:32:43.205
<00:32:39.795>Your <00:32:39.935>auditing <00:32:40.075>of <00:32:40.215>what <00:32:40.355>initial <00:32:40.495>parts, <00:32:40.635>you <00:32:40.775>can <00:32:40.915>have <00:32:41.055>a <00:32:41.195>lot

748
00:32:43.205 --> 00:32:46.805
<00:32:43.205>of <00:32:43.360>automation <00:32:43.516>on <00:32:43.671>writing <00:32:43.827>the <00:32:43.982>jd, <00:32:44.138>talking <00:32:44.293>through <00:32:44.449>your, <00:32:44.605>uh,

749
00:32:46.865 --> 00:32:47.885
<00:32:46.865>intake, <00:32:47.324>et <00:32:47.783>cetera.

750
00:32:48.225 --> 00:32:50.805
<00:32:48.225>But <00:32:48.425>what <00:32:48.625>about <00:32:48.824>your <00:32:49.024>advising <00:32:49.225>the <00:32:49.425>hiring <00:32:49.625>manager

751
00:32:51.505 --> 00:32:53.525
<00:32:51.505>on <00:32:51.785>the <00:32:52.065>quality, <00:32:52.345>on <00:32:52.625>the <00:32:52.905>aspects

752
00:32:53.525 --> 00:32:54.885
<00:32:53.525>and <00:32:53.831>competencies <00:32:54.137>that <00:32:54.443>are <00:32:54.749>there?

753
00:32:55.195 --> 00:32:58.205
<00:32:55.195>What <00:32:55.350>do <00:32:55.506>you <00:32:55.661>need <00:32:55.817>for <00:32:55.972>the <00:32:56.128>future? <00:32:56.283>Connecting <00:32:56.439>those <00:32:56.595>dots?

754
00:32:58.395 --> 00:33:00.445
<00:32:58.395>Many <00:32:58.675>a <00:32:58.955>times, <00:32:59.235>uh, <00:32:59.514>hiring <00:32:59.795>managers,

755
00:33:00.445 --> 00:33:02.565
<00:33:00.445>and <00:33:00.585>this <00:33:00.725>is <00:33:00.865>why <00:33:01.004>I <00:33:01.145>say <00:33:01.284>it <00:33:01.425>cannot <00:33:01.564>be <00:33:01.705>fully <00:33:01.845>automated

756
00:33:03.085 --> 00:33:04.285
<00:33:03.085>'cause <00:33:03.355>there's <00:33:03.625>a <00:33:03.895>luxurious <00:33:04.165>time,

757
00:33:04.285 --> 00:33:08.575
<00:33:04.285>and <00:33:04.425>hiring <00:33:04.565>managers <00:33:04.705>know <00:33:04.845>exactly <00:33:04.985>what <00:33:05.125>is <00:33:05.265>it <00:33:05.405>that <00:33:05.545>they <00:33:05.685>want.

758
00:33:09.225 --> 00:33:11.415
<00:33:09.225>Until <00:33:09.399>that <00:33:09.574>happens, <00:33:09.750>you'll <00:33:09.925>never <00:33:10.100>have <00:33:10.274>this <00:33:10.449>fully <00:33:10.625>automated.

759
00:33:11.475 --> 00:33:13.455
<00:33:11.475>So <00:33:11.675>if <00:33:11.875>I <00:33:12.074>look <00:33:12.274>at <00:33:12.475>a <00:33:12.675>talent <00:33:12.875>architect

760
00:33:13.555 --> 00:33:17.775
<00:33:13.555>or <00:33:13.695>a <00:33:13.835>talent <00:33:13.975>advisor <00:33:14.115>from <00:33:14.255>a <00:33:14.395>recruiter <00:33:14.535>looking <00:33:14.675>at <00:33:14.815>the <00:33:14.955>org

761
00:33:17.775 --> 00:33:19.895
<00:33:17.775>design, <00:33:18.008>where <00:33:18.241>does <00:33:18.475>this <00:33:18.708>person <00:33:18.941>sit <00:33:19.175>in?

762
00:33:19.895 --> 00:33:21.935
<00:33:19.895>Where <00:33:20.095>do <00:33:20.295>you <00:33:20.495>look <00:33:20.695>at <00:33:20.895>the <00:33:21.095>leveling <00:33:21.295>aspect?

763
00:33:22.085 --> 00:33:23.535
<00:33:22.085>What <00:33:22.346>are <00:33:22.607>the <00:33:22.868>competencies <00:33:23.129>comes <00:33:23.390>in?

764
00:33:23.535 --> 00:33:26.015
<00:33:23.535>And <00:33:23.675>that <00:33:23.815>is <00:33:23.955>the <00:33:24.095>dialogue <00:33:24.235>that <00:33:24.375>you <00:33:24.515>do <00:33:24.655>look <00:33:24.795>at <00:33:24.935>four

765
00:33:26.015 --> 00:33:27.375
<00:33:26.015>or <00:33:26.219>five <00:33:26.423>profiles <00:33:26.627>that <00:33:26.831>have <00:33:27.035>gone <00:33:27.239>through.

766
00:33:27.555 --> 00:33:29.335
<00:33:27.555>Why <00:33:27.788>didn't <00:33:28.021>this <00:33:28.255>kind <00:33:28.488>of <00:33:28.721>profile <00:33:28.955>work?

767
00:33:29.355 --> 00:33:31.095
<00:33:29.355>Why <00:33:29.530>did <00:33:29.705>this <00:33:29.880>kind <00:33:30.055>of <00:33:30.230>profile <00:33:30.405>work, <00:33:30.580>et <00:33:30.755>cetera.

768
00:33:31.475 --> 00:33:34.735
<00:33:31.475>So <00:33:31.754>number <00:33:32.034>one, <00:33:32.314>number <00:33:32.594>two, <00:33:32.875>handholding

769
00:33:34.855 --> 00:33:38.335
<00:33:34.855>that <00:33:35.010>person <00:33:35.166>guiding <00:33:35.321>the, <00:33:35.477>this <00:33:35.632>is <00:33:35.788>where <00:33:35.943>a <00:33:36.099>talent <00:33:36.255>architect

770
00:33:38.355 --> 00:33:40.135
<00:33:38.355>or <00:33:38.635>business <00:33:38.915>partner <00:33:39.195>comes <00:33:39.475>into <00:33:39.755>play.

771
00:33:40.195 --> 00:33:43.935
<00:33:40.195>How <00:33:40.335>do <00:33:40.475>you <00:33:40.615>coach <00:33:40.754>managers <00:33:40.895>to <00:33:41.034>ensure <00:33:41.175>that <00:33:41.314>they <00:33:41.455>can, <00:33:41.595>uh,

772
00:33:44.185 --> 00:33:47.375
<00:33:44.185>their <00:33:44.301>teams <00:33:44.418>are <00:33:44.534>ramped <00:33:44.651>up <00:33:44.768>on <00:33:44.885>a, <00:33:45.001>at <00:33:45.118>a <00:33:45.235>faster <00:33:45.351>pace, <00:33:45.468>et <00:33:45.585>cetera.

773
00:33:47.375 --> 00:33:51.335
<00:33:47.375>So <00:33:47.530>I <00:33:47.686>think <00:33:47.841>these <00:33:47.997>decisions, <00:33:48.152>these, <00:33:48.308>this <00:33:48.463>aspect <00:33:48.619>of <00:33:48.775>coaching,

774
00:33:51.625 --> 00:33:54.135
<00:33:51.625>partnering, <00:33:51.975>amplifying, <00:33:52.325>this <00:33:52.675>would <00:33:53.025>be

775
00:33:54.135 --> 00:33:55.535
<00:33:54.135>where <00:33:54.387>the <00:33:54.639>human <00:33:54.891>part <00:33:55.143>comes <00:33:55.395>in.

776
00:33:55.535 --> 00:33:58.135
<00:33:55.535>You're <00:33:55.690>strategizing <00:33:55.846>along <00:33:56.001>with <00:33:56.157>the <00:33:56.312>business <00:33:56.468>on <00:33:56.623>how <00:33:56.779>to <00:33:56.935>drive,

777
00:33:58.515 --> 00:34:02.095
<00:33:58.515>so <00:33:58.642>your <00:33:58.769>time <00:33:58.896>to <00:33:59.024>fail <00:33:59.151>numbers, <00:33:59.278>et <00:33:59.405>cetera, <00:33:59.533>might <00:33:59.660>go <00:33:59.787>on <00:33:59.915>to,

778
00:34:02.095 --> 00:34:03.815
<00:34:02.095>okay, <00:34:02.328>agents <00:34:02.561>are <00:34:02.795>helping <00:34:03.028>me <00:34:03.261>do <00:34:03.495>this.

779
00:34:04.315 --> 00:34:06.255
<00:34:04.315>I'm <00:34:04.515>still, <00:34:04.715>the <00:34:04.915>human <00:34:05.115>agents <00:34:05.315>are <00:34:05.515>not <00:34:05.715>gonna

780
00:34:06.255 --> 00:34:07.375
<00:34:06.255>have <00:34:06.507>an <00:34:06.759>appraisal, <00:34:07.011>human <00:34:07.263>will.

781
00:34:07.375 --> 00:34:10.455
<00:34:07.375>Right. <00:34:07.530>So <00:34:07.686>you <00:34:07.841>still <00:34:07.997>get <00:34:08.152>the <00:34:08.308>credit <00:34:08.463>for <00:34:08.619>that. <00:34:08.775>Yeah.

782
00:34:10.595 --> 00:34:14.255
<00:34:10.594>But <00:34:10.734>you <00:34:10.875>are, <00:34:11.014>what <00:34:11.154>you'll <00:34:11.294>be <00:34:11.435>assessed <00:34:11.574>on <00:34:11.714>ultimately <00:34:11.855>should <00:34:11.995>be

783
00:34:14.255 --> 00:34:17.495
<00:34:14.255>that <00:34:14.488>quality <00:34:14.721>and <00:34:14.955>candidate <00:34:15.188>experience, <00:34:15.421>interview <00:34:15.655>experience,

784
00:34:17.855 --> 00:34:19.975
<00:34:17.855>employee <00:34:18.205>experience, <00:34:18.554>engagement <00:34:18.905>scores, <00:34:19.255>those,

785
00:34:19.985 --> 00:34:21.735
<00:34:19.985>those <00:34:20.335>would <00:34:20.685>be <00:34:21.035>the, <00:34:21.385>uh,

786
00:34:21.805 --> 00:34:23.855
<00:34:21.804>more <00:34:22.038>important <00:34:22.271>KPIs <00:34:22.504>at <00:34:22.738>that <00:34:22.971>time. <00:34:23.205>Mm-hmm.

787
00:34:24.325 --> 00:34:27.935
<00:34:24.324>Very <00:34:24.452>cool. <00:34:24.579>I <00:34:24.706>mean, <00:34:24.834>we <00:34:24.961>are, <00:34:25.088>we <00:34:25.215>are <00:34:25.343>coming <00:34:25.470>to <00:34:25.597>the <00:34:25.725>end.

788
00:34:28.075 --> 00:34:30.615
<00:34:28.074>So <00:34:28.230>I <00:34:28.386>mean, <00:34:28.541>the <00:34:28.697>time <00:34:28.852>is <00:34:29.008>passing <00:34:29.163>by <00:34:29.319>extremely <00:34:29.475>quickly,

789
00:34:30.835 --> 00:34:33.735
<00:34:30.835>but <00:34:30.951>I <00:34:31.068>have <00:34:31.185>one <00:34:31.301>thing <00:34:31.418>which <00:34:31.534>I <00:34:31.651>want <00:34:31.768>to <00:34:31.885>strive <00:34:32.001>again <00:34:32.118>as <00:34:32.235>well.

790
00:34:34.525 --> 00:34:38.135
<00:34:34.525>What <00:34:34.665>do <00:34:34.805>you <00:34:34.945>think <00:34:35.085>is <00:34:35.225>the <00:34:35.365>ethical <00:34:35.505>dimension <00:34:35.645>that <00:34:35.785>we <00:34:35.925>have

791
00:34:38.135 --> 00:34:40.775
<00:34:38.135>to <00:34:38.290>also <00:34:38.446>face <00:34:38.601>if <00:34:38.757>you're <00:34:38.912>talking <00:34:39.068>about <00:34:39.223>what's <00:34:39.379>coming <00:34:39.535>up?

792
00:34:42.195 --> 00:34:46.765
<00:34:42.195>I, <00:34:42.350>I, <00:34:42.506>um, <00:34:42.661>I've <00:34:42.817>been <00:34:42.972>following <00:34:43.128>this <00:34:43.283>recently, <00:34:43.439>uh, <00:34:43.595>Rudy,

793
00:34:46.765 --> 00:34:50.645
<00:34:46.764>with <00:34:46.920>the <00:34:47.076>chatter <00:34:47.231>in <00:34:47.387>on <00:34:47.542>LinkedIn, <00:34:47.698>chatter <00:34:47.853>in <00:34:48.009>the <00:34:48.165>space,

794
00:34:51.645 --> 00:34:54.805
<00:34:51.645>a <00:34:51.878>change <00:34:52.111>of <00:34:52.344>minds, <00:34:52.578>uh, <00:34:52.811>minds <00:34:53.045>set.

795
00:34:54.885 --> 00:34:56.005
<00:34:54.885>A <00:34:55.137>mind <00:34:55.389>shift, <00:34:55.641>I <00:34:55.893>guess.

796
00:34:56.105 --> 00:34:57.885
<00:34:56.105>Um, <00:34:56.338>you <00:34:56.571>mentioned <00:34:56.804>this <00:34:57.038>in <00:34:57.271>the <00:34:57.505>beginning,

797
00:34:58.065 --> 00:34:59.445
<00:34:58.065>AI <00:34:58.313>has <00:34:58.561>happened <00:34:58.810>to <00:34:59.058>us <00:34:59.307>already.

798
00:34:59.545 --> 00:35:02.285
<00:34:59.545>It <00:34:59.672>is <00:34:59.799>there, <00:34:59.926>it <00:35:00.054>is <00:35:00.181>Not <00:35:00.308>that <00:35:00.435>we <00:35:00.563>can <00:35:00.690>argue <00:35:00.817>if <00:35:00.945>yes

799
00:35:02.285 --> 00:35:05.165
<00:35:02.285>or <00:35:02.440>no, <00:35:02.596>there <00:35:02.751>are <00:35:02.907>choices <00:35:03.062>that <00:35:03.218>we <00:35:03.373>can <00:35:03.529>still <00:35:03.685>make.

800
00:35:05.425 --> 00:35:08.765
<00:35:05.425>We <00:35:05.552>don't <00:35:05.679>need <00:35:05.806>to. <00:35:05.934>I <00:35:06.061>know <00:35:06.188>in, <00:35:06.315>in <00:35:06.443>terms <00:35:06.570>of <00:35:06.697>business, <00:35:06.825>yes,

801
00:35:08.785 --> 00:35:11.725
<00:35:08.785>we <00:35:08.940>are <00:35:09.096>competing <00:35:09.251>with <00:35:09.407>so <00:35:09.562>many <00:35:09.718>organizations, <00:35:09.873>so <00:35:10.029>we <00:35:10.185>have

802
00:35:11.725 --> 00:35:15.765
<00:35:11.725>to <00:35:11.841>go <00:35:11.958>fast, <00:35:12.075>but <00:35:12.191>sometimes <00:35:12.308>we <00:35:12.424>have <00:35:12.541>to <00:35:12.658>be <00:35:12.775>a <00:35:12.891>little <00:35:13.008>bit <00:35:13.125>wiser,

803
00:35:16.505 --> 00:35:18.555
<00:35:16.505>take <00:35:16.785>talk <00:35:17.065>and <00:35:17.345>then <00:35:17.625>move <00:35:17.905>ahead,

804
00:35:18.665 --> 00:35:21.035
<00:35:18.665>because <00:35:18.805>it <00:35:18.945>is, <00:35:19.085>it <00:35:19.225>is <00:35:19.365>a, <00:35:19.505>it <00:35:19.645>is <00:35:19.785>a <00:35:19.925>black <00:35:20.065>box.

805
00:35:21.035 --> 00:35:22.435
<00:35:21.035>There's <00:35:21.245>a <00:35:21.455>lot <00:35:21.665>that <00:35:21.875>we <00:35:22.085>don't <00:35:22.295>know.

806
00:35:23.135 --> 00:35:26.595
<00:35:23.135>Um, <00:35:23.275>I'm <00:35:23.415>looking <00:35:23.555>at <00:35:23.695>authors <00:35:23.835>today <00:35:23.975>like <00:35:24.115>Karen <00:35:24.255>Howe <00:35:24.395>in <00:35:24.535>the

807
00:35:26.795 --> 00:35:28.955
<00:35:26.795>industry, <00:35:27.075>uh, <00:35:27.355>looking <00:35:27.635>at <00:35:27.915>some <00:35:28.195>alternate

808
00:35:28.955 --> 00:35:30.155
<00:35:28.955>voices <00:35:29.315>in <00:35:29.675>the <00:35:30.035>industry.

809
00:35:31.095 --> 00:35:32.515
<00:35:31.095>The <00:35:31.520>Sam <00:35:31.946>alt <00:35:32.373>alternates

810
00:35:32.515 --> 00:35:35.035
<00:35:32.515>of <00:35:32.670>the <00:35:32.826>industry <00:35:32.981>are <00:35:33.137>great <00:35:33.292>when <00:35:33.448>it <00:35:33.603>comes <00:35:33.759>to <00:35:33.915>innovation,

811
00:35:35.095 --> 00:35:37.605
<00:35:35.095>but <00:35:35.234>you <00:35:35.375>also <00:35:35.515>have <00:35:35.654>to <00:35:35.794>have <00:35:35.935>some <00:35:36.075>breaks <00:35:36.214>and <00:35:36.355>pedals <00:35:36.495>there.

812
00:35:38.065 --> 00:35:40.005
<00:35:38.065>And <00:35:38.240>these <00:35:38.415>breaks <00:35:38.590>and <00:35:38.765>pedals <00:35:38.940>are <00:35:39.115>the <00:35:39.290>other <00:35:39.465>side

813
00:35:40.005 --> 00:35:41.365
<00:35:40.005>of <00:35:40.311>the <00:35:40.617>industry <00:35:40.923>talking <00:35:41.229>about

814
00:35:42.185 --> 00:35:44.075
<00:35:42.185>what <00:35:42.535>are <00:35:42.884>the <00:35:43.235>ethical <00:35:43.585>guidelines?

815
00:35:44.255 --> 00:35:45.875
<00:35:44.255>Who <00:35:44.535>is <00:35:44.815>checking, <00:35:45.095>who <00:35:45.375>is <00:35:45.655>building?

816
00:35:46.535 --> 00:35:48.635
<00:35:46.535>We <00:35:46.768>can <00:35:47.001>see <00:35:47.234>bias <00:35:47.468>driven <00:35:47.701>into <00:35:47.935>this.

817
00:35:48.855 --> 00:35:52.555
<00:35:48.855>Uh, <00:35:49.030>already <00:35:49.205>we <00:35:49.380>had <00:35:49.555>a <00:35:49.730>recent <00:35:49.905>situation <00:35:50.080>with <00:35:50.255>grok.

818
00:35:52.975 --> 00:35:55.755
<00:35:52.975>Uh, <00:35:53.174>there <00:35:53.375>is <00:35:53.575>digital <00:35:53.775>bullying <00:35:53.975>happening <00:35:54.174>for, <00:35:54.375>with,

819
00:35:55.755 --> 00:35:57.835
<00:35:55.755>with <00:35:55.955>women <00:35:56.155>in, <00:35:56.355>in, <00:35:56.555>you <00:35:56.755>know, <00:35:56.955>in <00:35:57.155>spaces.

820
00:35:59.095 --> 00:36:02.435
<00:35:59.095>How <00:35:59.222>can <00:35:59.349>we <00:35:59.476>start <00:35:59.604>from <00:35:59.731>a <00:35:59.858>space <00:35:59.985>where <00:36:00.113>we <00:36:00.240>don't <00:36:00.367>allow <00:36:00.495>these,

821
00:36:02.575 --> 00:36:04.595
<00:36:02.575>we <00:36:02.774>we <00:36:02.975>drive <00:36:03.174>it <00:36:03.375>in <00:36:03.575>a <00:36:03.774>systemic <00:36:03.975>way

822
00:36:04.615 --> 00:36:06.515
<00:36:04.615>to <00:36:04.964>not <00:36:05.314>allow <00:36:05.665>these <00:36:06.015>opportunities.

823
00:36:06.695 --> 00:36:08.035
<00:36:06.695>Of <00:36:06.936>course, <00:36:07.177>some <00:36:07.418>things <00:36:07.659>will <00:36:07.901>happen,

824
00:36:08.535 --> 00:36:10.595
<00:36:08.535>but <00:36:08.815>when <00:36:09.095>that <00:36:09.375>happens, <00:36:09.654>acknowledge, <00:36:09.935>agree,

825
00:36:10.975 --> 00:36:13.035
<00:36:10.975>change <00:36:11.325>quickly, <00:36:11.674>don't <00:36:12.025>defend <00:36:12.375>it.

826
00:36:13.375 --> 00:36:16.035
<00:36:13.375>And <00:36:13.502>this, <00:36:13.629>this <00:36:13.756>is, <00:36:13.884>these <00:36:14.011>are <00:36:14.138>things <00:36:14.265>that <00:36:14.393>we <00:36:14.520>have <00:36:14.647>to <00:36:14.775>have

827
00:36:16.035 --> 00:36:19.155
<00:36:16.035>to <00:36:16.174>have <00:36:16.315>the <00:36:16.455>conversation, <00:36:16.595>uh, <00:36:16.734>while <00:36:16.875>sitting <00:36:17.015>in <00:36:17.154>on <00:36:17.295>the <00:36:17.435>panel,

828
00:36:19.255 --> 00:36:21.555
<00:36:19.255>or <00:36:19.395>if <00:36:19.535>you're, <00:36:19.675>you <00:36:19.815>know, <00:36:19.955>sitting <00:36:20.095>in <00:36:20.235>a <00:36:20.375>room <00:36:20.515>of <00:36:20.655>leaders

829
00:36:21.735 --> 00:36:24.595
<00:36:21.735>who <00:36:21.875>are <00:36:22.015>signing <00:36:22.155>off <00:36:22.295>a <00:36:22.435>model, <00:36:22.575>who <00:36:22.715>has <00:36:22.855>checked <00:36:22.995>the <00:36:23.135>model.

830
00:36:24.895 --> 00:36:27.275
<00:36:24.895>And <00:36:25.128>especially <00:36:25.361>with <00:36:25.595>organizations <00:36:25.828>such <00:36:26.061>an <00:36:26.295>opportunity,

831
00:36:27.415 --> 00:36:29.235
<00:36:27.415>or <00:36:27.648>most <00:36:27.881>of <00:36:28.115>our <00:36:28.348>companies <00:36:28.581>have <00:36:28.815>ERGs.

832
00:36:29.505 --> 00:36:31.795
<00:36:29.505>Have <00:36:29.785>you <00:36:30.065>tested <00:36:30.345>something <00:36:30.625>with <00:36:30.905>ERGs?

833
00:36:31.795 --> 00:36:35.935
<00:36:31.795>Is <00:36:31.970>it, <00:36:32.145>uh, <00:36:32.320>an <00:36:32.495>overlook <00:36:32.670>is <00:36:32.845>something <00:36:33.020>that <00:36:33.195>is,

834
00:36:36.115 --> 00:36:37.495
<00:36:36.115>is <00:36:36.363>a <00:36:36.611>blind <00:36:36.860>spot <00:36:37.108>with <00:36:37.357>people?

835
00:36:37.875 --> 00:36:40.295
<00:36:37.875>So <00:36:38.030>I <00:36:38.186>think <00:36:38.341>these <00:36:38.497>are <00:36:38.652>things <00:36:38.808>that <00:36:38.963>are <00:36:39.119>really <00:36:39.275>important.

836
00:36:40.375 --> 00:36:42.455
<00:36:40.375>I <00:36:40.575>know <00:36:40.775>go, <00:36:40.975>governments <00:36:41.175>are <00:36:41.375>putting <00:36:41.575>guardrails <00:36:41.775>on

837
00:36:42.975 --> 00:36:45.175
<00:36:42.975>children's <00:36:43.208>access <00:36:43.441>these <00:36:43.674>days <00:36:43.908>to <00:36:44.141>social <00:36:44.375>media,

838
00:36:45.175 --> 00:36:48.695
<00:36:45.175>because <00:36:45.330>again, <00:36:45.486>AI <00:36:45.641>is <00:36:45.797>coming <00:36:45.952>into <00:36:46.108>play, <00:36:46.263>uh, <00:36:46.419>to, <00:36:46.575>uh,

839
00:36:48.695 --> 00:36:49.935
<00:36:48.695>through <00:36:49.253>social <00:36:49.811>media.

840
00:36:50.315 --> 00:36:52.935
<00:36:50.315>So <00:36:50.515>that's, <00:36:50.715>that's <00:36:50.915>again, <00:36:51.115>a <00:36:51.315>very <00:36:51.515>responsible <00:36:51.715>way

841
00:36:52.935 --> 00:36:55.695
<00:36:52.935>of <00:36:53.090>taking <00:36:53.246>care <00:36:53.401>of, <00:36:53.557>uh, <00:36:53.712>putting <00:36:53.868>those <00:36:54.023>guardrails <00:36:54.179>in <00:36:54.335>place.

842
00:36:57.705 --> 00:37:00.415
<00:36:57.705>Thank <00:36:57.880>you <00:36:58.055>for <00:36:58.230>that, <00:36:58.404>that <00:36:58.580>that <00:36:58.755>opinion <00:36:58.930>on <00:36:59.105>that.

843
00:37:00.495 --> 00:37:03.135
<00:37:00.495>I <00:37:00.670>think <00:37:00.845>it's <00:37:01.020>really <00:37:01.194>important <00:37:01.370>that <00:37:01.545>we, <00:37:01.720>we, <00:37:01.895>we,

844
00:37:03.195 --> 00:37:06.015
<00:37:03.195>we <00:37:03.350>really <00:37:03.506>take <00:37:03.661>this <00:37:03.817>serious <00:37:03.972>and <00:37:04.128>we <00:37:04.283>have <00:37:04.439>an <00:37:04.595>honest

845
00:37:06.035 --> 00:37:07.455
<00:37:06.035>and <00:37:06.248>open <00:37:06.461>discussion <00:37:06.674>on <00:37:06.886>that <00:37:07.100>as <00:37:07.313>well.

846
00:37:07.635 --> 00:37:12.455
<00:37:07.635>And <00:37:07.775>I <00:37:07.915>want <00:37:08.055>to <00:37:08.195>end <00:37:08.335>this <00:37:08.475>kind <00:37:08.615>of <00:37:08.755>episode, <00:37:08.895>whether <00:37:09.035>this

847
00:37:12.475 --> 00:37:15.295
<00:37:12.475>or <00:37:12.591>that, <00:37:12.708>which <00:37:12.825>I <00:37:12.941>normally <00:37:13.058>do <00:37:13.174>with <00:37:13.291>all <00:37:13.408>my, <00:37:13.525>my <00:37:13.641>guests <00:37:13.758>as <00:37:13.875>well.

848
00:37:15.395 --> 00:37:17.815
<00:37:15.395>So <00:37:15.570>I <00:37:15.745>want <00:37:15.920>to <00:37:16.095>throw <00:37:16.270>some <00:37:16.445>topics <00:37:16.620>towards <00:37:16.795>you,

849
00:37:17.835 --> 00:37:19.615
<00:37:17.835>and <00:37:18.010>I <00:37:18.185>would <00:37:18.360>ask <00:37:18.535>you <00:37:18.710>to <00:37:18.885>probably <00:37:19.060>pick <00:37:19.235>one

850
00:37:19.615 --> 00:37:21.175
<00:37:19.615>of <00:37:19.895>it <00:37:20.174>without <00:37:20.455>thinking <00:37:20.734>too <00:37:21.015>much.

851
00:37:21.645 --> 00:37:24.575
<00:37:21.645>Okay. <00:37:21.820>And <00:37:21.995>the <00:37:22.170>first <00:37:22.345>one <00:37:22.520>is <00:37:22.695>AI <00:37:22.870>as <00:37:23.045>advisor

852
00:37:24.795 --> 00:37:26.375
<00:37:24.795>or <00:37:25.145>AI <00:37:25.495>as <00:37:25.845>decision <00:37:26.195>maker.

853
00:37:27.445 --> 00:37:29.855
<00:37:27.445>Advisor. <00:37:27.795>Okay. <00:37:28.145>Speed <00:37:28.495>or <00:37:28.845>wisdom?

854
00:37:30.755 --> 00:37:34.955
<00:37:30.755>Wisdom. <00:37:30.988>Automate. <00:37:31.221>Automate <00:37:31.455>tasks <00:37:31.688>or <00:37:31.921>redesign <00:37:32.155>rules.

855
00:37:36.355 --> 00:37:39.195
<00:37:36.355>Redesign <00:37:36.705>rules. <00:37:37.055>Efficiency <00:37:37.405>or <00:37:37.755>meaning.

856
00:37:39.845 --> 00:37:41.295
<00:37:39.845>Meaning. <00:37:41.150>Okay.

857
00:37:42.055 --> 00:37:44.895
<00:37:42.055>Managers <00:37:42.288>as <00:37:42.521>controllers, <00:37:42.754>or <00:37:42.988>managers <00:37:43.221>as <00:37:43.455>curators.

858
00:37:45.745 --> 00:37:47.585
<00:37:45.745>Managers <00:37:46.211>As <00:37:46.678>curators. <00:37:47.145>Yeah.

859
00:37:48.095 --> 00:37:51.105
<00:37:48.095>More <00:37:48.328>AI <00:37:48.561>rules <00:37:48.794>or <00:37:49.028>better <00:37:49.261>leadership <00:37:49.495>skills.

860
00:37:52.295 --> 00:37:53.475
<00:37:52.295>Better <00:37:52.826>leadership <00:37:53.357>skills.

861
00:37:54.495 --> 00:37:57.585
<00:37:54.495>Fear <00:37:54.728>of <00:37:54.961>AI <00:37:55.194>or <00:37:55.428>responsibility <00:37:55.661>for <00:37:55.895>ai.

862
00:37:58.585 --> 00:38:00.005
<00:37:58.585>Responsibility <00:37:59.224>for <00:37:59.863>ai.

863
00:38:00.325 --> 00:38:02.005
<00:38:00.325>Okay. <00:38:00.674>And <00:38:01.024>the <00:38:01.375>last <00:38:01.725>one.

864
00:38:02.015 --> 00:38:04.085
<00:38:02.015>Speed <00:38:02.248>of <00:38:02.481>output <00:38:02.714>or <00:38:02.948>depth <00:38:03.181>of <00:38:03.415>thinking.

865
00:38:06.945 --> 00:38:09.135
<00:38:06.945>Speed <00:38:07.225>of <00:38:07.505>output. <00:38:07.785>You <00:38:08.065>can <00:38:08.345>iterate.

866
00:38:09.765 --> 00:38:13.255
<00:38:09.765>Okey <00:38:09.904>dokey. <00:38:10.045>And <00:38:10.185>the <00:38:10.325>very, <00:38:10.464>very <00:38:10.605>last <00:38:10.745>question, <00:38:10.884>I <00:38:11.025>take <00:38:11.165>this

867
00:38:13.315 --> 00:38:15.775
<00:38:13.315>for <00:38:13.548>everyone <00:38:13.781>as <00:38:14.015>well, <00:38:14.248>is <00:38:14.481>if <00:38:14.715>Alaine

868
00:38:15.775 --> 00:38:17.895
<00:38:15.775>with <00:38:15.950>his <00:38:16.125>magic <00:38:16.300>lamp <00:38:16.475>would <00:38:16.650>come <00:38:16.825>to <00:38:17.000>you <00:38:17.175>now,

869
00:38:17.975 --> 00:38:19.015
<00:38:17.975>I <00:38:18.209>would <00:38:18.442>say <00:38:18.676>mad <00:38:18.911>jewelry.

870
00:38:19.215 --> 00:38:21.055
<00:38:19.215>I <00:38:19.370>have <00:38:19.526>got, <00:38:19.681>you <00:38:19.837>have <00:38:19.992>got <00:38:20.148>one, <00:38:20.303>which <00:38:20.459>for <00:38:20.615>free,

871
00:38:21.725 --> 00:38:22.735
<00:38:21.725>what <00:38:22.028>would <00:38:22.331>it <00:38:22.634>be?

872
00:38:22.875 --> 00:38:24.135
<00:38:22.875>It <00:38:23.158>could <00:38:23.442>be <00:38:23.725>private <00:38:24.009>one

873
00:38:24.135 --> 00:38:26.575
<00:38:24.135>or <00:38:24.290>could <00:38:24.446>be <00:38:24.601>a <00:38:24.757>kind <00:38:24.912>of <00:38:25.068>a <00:38:25.223>business <00:38:25.379>driven <00:38:25.535>one.

874
00:38:26.595 --> 00:38:30.455
<00:38:26.595>So <00:38:26.770>whatever <00:38:26.944>you <00:38:27.120>pick <00:38:27.294>and <00:38:27.470>choose <00:38:27.645>is <00:38:27.819>right. <00:38:27.995>Uh,

875
00:38:31.335 --> 00:38:36.035
<00:38:31.335>I <00:38:31.568>can, <00:38:31.801>well, <00:38:32.035>let, <00:38:32.268>let <00:38:32.501>me, <00:38:32.735>uh,

876
00:38:36.815 --> 00:38:39.155
<00:38:36.815>do <00:38:36.942>I <00:38:37.069>go <00:38:37.196>for <00:38:37.324>a, <00:38:37.451>do <00:38:37.578>I <00:38:37.705>go <00:38:37.833>for <00:38:37.960>a <00:38:38.087>beauty <00:38:38.215>contest?

877
00:38:39.255 --> 00:38:43.075
<00:38:39.255>Answer <00:38:39.605>or <00:38:39.955>no? <00:38:40.305>World <00:38:40.655>peace.

878
00:38:43.215 --> 00:38:48.075
<00:38:43.215>And, <00:38:43.448>you <00:38:43.681>know, <00:38:43.915>uh, <00:38:44.148>unfortunately, <00:38:44.381>I, <00:38:44.615>I'm,

879
00:38:48.135 --> 00:38:50.115
<00:38:48.135>I'm <00:38:48.310>very <00:38:48.485>optimistic, <00:38:48.660>but <00:38:48.835>I <00:38:49.010>don't <00:38:49.185>think <00:38:49.360>that'll <00:38:49.535>happen.

880
00:38:50.215 --> 00:38:51.915
<00:38:50.215>So <00:38:50.495>I'll <00:38:50.775>rather <00:38:51.055>use <00:38:51.335>that <00:38:51.615>wish

881
00:38:52.735 --> 00:38:57.555
<00:38:52.735>and <00:38:52.875>say, <00:38:53.015>um, <00:38:53.155>I, <00:38:53.295>I <00:38:53.435>rarely <00:38:53.575>wish <00:38:53.715>that <00:38:53.855>I <00:38:53.995>get <00:38:54.135>time

882
00:38:57.815 --> 00:39:02.195
<00:38:57.815>to, <00:38:57.942>uh, <00:38:58.069>travel <00:38:58.196>the <00:38:58.324>world, <00:38:58.451>the <00:38:58.578>parts <00:38:58.705>that <00:38:58.833>I've <00:38:58.960>not <00:38:59.087>been <00:38:59.215>to.

883
00:39:02.255 --> 00:39:03.595
<00:39:02.255>So <00:39:02.858>Australia, <00:39:03.461>definitely

884
00:39:04.135 --> 00:39:05.675
<00:39:04.135>New <00:39:04.366>Zealand, <00:39:04.597>a <00:39:04.828>lot <00:39:05.059>of <00:39:05.290>Latin <00:39:05.521>America.

885
00:39:05.695 --> 00:39:08.515
<00:39:05.695>So <00:39:05.822>it's <00:39:05.949>a <00:39:06.076>personal <00:39:06.204>wish, <00:39:06.331>I <00:39:06.458>would <00:39:06.585>say <00:39:06.713>to <00:39:06.840>take <00:39:06.967>the <00:39:07.095>time

886
00:39:08.735 --> 00:39:10.875
<00:39:08.735>and, <00:39:09.085>uh, <00:39:09.435>see <00:39:09.785>different <00:39:10.135>countries

887
00:39:10.895 --> 00:39:12.715
<00:39:10.895>and <00:39:11.245>interact <00:39:11.595>with <00:39:11.945>different <00:39:12.295>cultures.

888
00:39:13.065 --> 00:39:14.915
<00:39:13.065>That <00:39:13.265>is <00:39:13.465>definitely <00:39:13.665>a <00:39:13.865>bucket <00:39:14.065>list <00:39:14.265>for <00:39:14.465>me.

889
00:39:15.295 --> 00:39:16.715
<00:39:15.295>Really. <00:39:15.550>Cool. <00:39:15.806>Thank <00:39:16.061>you <00:39:16.317>very <00:39:16.573>much.

890
00:39:16.815 --> 00:39:18.755
<00:39:16.815>And <00:39:17.165>I <00:39:17.515>can <00:39:17.865>spoil <00:39:18.215>something

891
00:39:18.755 --> 00:39:22.155
<00:39:18.755>because <00:39:18.910>I <00:39:19.066>think <00:39:19.221>Madura <00:39:19.377>has <00:39:19.532>to <00:39:19.688>tell <00:39:19.843>so <00:39:19.999>many <00:39:20.155>things,

892
00:39:22.255 --> 00:39:23.995
<00:39:22.255>and <00:39:22.455>I <00:39:22.655>think <00:39:22.855>she's <00:39:23.055>really <00:39:23.255>great <00:39:23.455>on <00:39:23.655>stage.

893
00:39:24.035 --> 00:39:26.275
<00:39:24.035>I <00:39:24.190>heard <00:39:24.346>her <00:39:24.501>a <00:39:24.657>couple <00:39:24.812>of <00:39:24.968>times <00:39:25.123>in <00:39:25.279>the <00:39:25.435>meantime.

894
00:39:26.935 --> 00:39:29.475
<00:39:26.935>And, <00:39:27.168>uh, <00:39:27.401>we <00:39:27.634>have <00:39:27.868>the <00:39:28.101>great <00:39:28.335>honor

895
00:39:29.695 --> 00:39:32.595
<00:39:29.695>and <00:39:29.850>pleasure <00:39:30.006>that <00:39:30.161>Madura <00:39:30.317>will <00:39:30.472>be <00:39:30.628>with <00:39:30.783>us <00:39:30.939>in <00:39:31.095>Berlin.

896
00:39:32.855 --> 00:39:35.915
<00:39:32.855>So <00:39:32.982>we, <00:39:33.109>you, <00:39:33.236>you <00:39:33.364>can <00:39:33.491>see <00:39:33.618>her <00:39:33.745>in <00:39:33.873>person <00:39:34.000>on <00:39:34.127>stage <00:39:34.255>again.

897
00:39:36.055 --> 00:39:37.355
<00:39:36.055>So <00:39:36.347>the <00:39:36.640>HR <00:39:36.932>leader <00:39:37.225>Summit

898
00:39:37.495 --> 00:39:38.795
<00:39:37.495>and <00:39:37.787>the <00:39:38.080>real <00:39:38.372>developers <00:39:38.665>world,

899
00:39:39.075 --> 00:39:41.035
<00:39:39.075>Congress <00:39:39.308>is <00:39:39.541>taking <00:39:39.774>place <00:39:40.008>from <00:39:40.241>the <00:39:40.475>eighth

900
00:39:41.095 --> 00:39:42.595
<00:39:41.095>to <00:39:41.319>the <00:39:41.544>10th <00:39:41.770>of <00:39:41.995>July <00:39:42.220>this <00:39:42.444>year.

901
00:39:43.175 --> 00:39:45.675
<00:39:43.175>And, <00:39:43.408>uh, <00:39:43.641>Manju <00:39:43.875>will <00:39:44.108>be <00:39:44.341>on <00:39:44.575>stage.

902
00:39:45.675 --> 00:39:47.235
<00:39:45.675>So <00:39:45.850>Manju, <00:39:46.025>thank <00:39:46.200>you <00:39:46.375>very <00:39:46.550>much <00:39:46.725>for <00:39:46.900>your <00:39:47.075>time.

903
00:39:47.255 --> 00:39:48.435
<00:39:47.255>It <00:39:47.432>was <00:39:47.609>a <00:39:47.786>pleasure <00:39:47.963>to <00:39:48.140>have <00:39:48.317>you.

904
00:39:48.765 --> 00:39:51.035
<00:39:48.765>Thank <00:39:48.998>you <00:39:49.231>that <00:39:49.464>you <00:39:49.698>shared <00:39:49.931>your <00:39:50.165>experience,

905
00:39:51.105 --> 00:39:52.275
<00:39:51.105>your <00:39:51.456>thoughts <00:39:51.807>and <00:39:52.158>ideas.

906
00:39:52.575 --> 00:39:54.715
<00:39:52.575>It <00:39:52.808>was <00:39:53.041>great. <00:39:53.274>I <00:39:53.508>really <00:39:53.741>enjoyed <00:39:53.975>it.

907
00:39:54.715 --> 00:39:57.155
<00:39:54.715>Hope <00:39:54.870>the <00:39:55.026>audience <00:39:55.181>do <00:39:55.337>the <00:39:55.492>same <00:39:55.648>during <00:39:55.803>listening <00:39:55.959>to <00:39:56.115>it,

908
00:39:57.155 --> 00:39:58.315
<00:39:57.155>but <00:39:57.503>I'm <00:39:57.851>100% <00:39:58.199>sure.

909
00:39:59.135 --> 00:40:00.635
<00:39:59.135>And <00:39:59.405>the <00:39:59.675>audience, <00:39:59.945>please <00:40:00.215>stay <00:40:00.485>tuned

910
00:40:00.635 --> 00:40:01.715
<00:40:00.635>for <00:40:00.878>what's <00:40:01.121>coming <00:40:01.364>up <00:40:01.607>next.

911
00:40:01.855 --> 00:40:04.595
<00:40:01.855>And <00:40:01.995>Madre, <00:40:02.135>thank <00:40:02.275>you <00:40:02.415>once <00:40:02.555>again. <00:40:02.695>Bye-bye. <00:40:02.835>To <00:40:02.975>all <00:40:03.115>of <00:40:03.255>you,

912
00:40:05.415 --> 00:40:06.415
<00:40:05.415>Thank <00:40:05.715>you <00:40:06.015>so <00:40:06.315>much.

913
00:40:10.315 --> 00:40:12.345
<00:40:10.315>Thank <00:40:10.548>you <00:40:10.781>for <00:40:11.015>watching <00:40:11.248>Cappuccino <00:40:11.481>with <00:40:11.715>hr.

914
00:40:12.345 --> 00:40:14.105
<00:40:12.345>If <00:40:12.578>you <00:40:12.811>enjoy <00:40:13.044>these <00:40:13.278>kind <00:40:13.511>of <00:40:13.745>conversations,

915
00:40:14.125 --> 00:40:16.305
<00:40:14.125>please <00:40:14.325>don't <00:40:14.525>forget <00:40:14.725>to <00:40:14.925>hit <00:40:15.125>the <00:40:15.325>subscribe <00:40:15.525>button.

916
00:40:16.495 --> 00:40:18.905
<00:40:16.495>Then <00:40:16.670>you <00:40:16.845>get <00:40:17.020>all <00:40:17.194>this <00:40:17.370>kind <00:40:17.545>of <00:40:17.720>upfront <00:40:17.895>information,

917
00:40:18.935 --> 00:40:20.345
<00:40:18.935>your <00:40:19.569>upcoming <00:40:20.203>episodes,

918
00:40:20.365 --> 00:40:23.625
<00:40:20.365>and <00:40:20.492>all <00:40:20.619>my <00:40:20.746>nice <00:40:20.874>guests, <00:40:21.001>cappuccino <00:40:21.128>with <00:40:21.255>HR <00:40:21.383>is <00:40:21.510>brought <00:40:21.637>to <00:40:21.765>you

919
00:40:23.625 --> 00:40:26.585
<00:40:23.625>by <00:40:23.825>we <00:40:24.025>developers, <00:40:24.225>Europe's <00:40:24.425>number <00:40:24.625>one <00:40:24.825>developer <00:40:25.025>community,

920
00:40:26.685 --> 00:40:29.745
<00:40:26.685>and <00:40:26.918>the <00:40:27.151>leading <00:40:27.384>platform <00:40:27.618>for <00:40:27.851>connecting <00:40:28.085>HR

921
00:40:30.005 --> 00:40:32.105
<00:40:30.005>and <00:40:30.355>companies <00:40:30.705>together <00:40:31.055>with <00:40:31.405>developers.

922
00:40:32.365 --> 00:40:33.665
<00:40:32.365>If <00:40:32.532>you <00:40:32.699>want <00:40:32.866>to <00:40:33.033>learn <00:40:33.200>more <00:40:33.367>with <00:40:33.535>it,

923
00:40:33.665 --> 00:40:36.545
<00:40:33.665>as <00:40:33.840>on <00:40:34.015>weird <00:40:34.190>developers.com, <00:40:34.365>thank <00:40:34.540>you <00:40:34.715>again <00:40:34.890>for <00:40:35.065>watching

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