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<00:17:53.145>Is <00:17:53.320>it <00:17:53.495>on <00:17:53.670>a <00:17:53.845>private <00:17:54.020>endpoint? <00:17:54.195>Is <00:17:54.370>it <00:17:54.545>protected?

396
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<00:17:55.605>That <00:17:55.721>is <00:17:55.838>the <00:17:55.955>IP <00:17:56.071>address, <00:17:56.188>is <00:17:56.305>it <00:17:56.421>private? <00:17:56.538>Is <00:17:56.655>no. <00:17:56.771>And <00:17:56.888>so <00:17:57.005>on.

397
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<00:17:58.865>And <00:17:59.065>especially <00:17:59.265>when <00:17:59.465>the <00:17:59.665>people <00:17:59.865>ask <00:18:00.065>you, <00:18:00.265>Hey,

398
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<00:18:00.525>you <00:18:00.795>are <00:18:01.065>hosting <00:18:01.335>value <00:18:01.605>application.

399
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<00:18:01.725>They're <00:18:01.925>asking <00:18:02.125>you, <00:18:02.324>do <00:18:02.524>I <00:18:02.725>have <00:18:02.925>IP <00:18:03.125>address?

400
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<00:18:04.425>And <00:18:04.565>I <00:18:04.705>have <00:18:04.845>to <00:18:04.985>ask, <00:18:05.125>Hey, <00:18:05.264>how <00:18:05.405>can <00:18:05.544>I <00:18:05.685>make <00:18:05.825>application

401
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<00:18:06.845>with <00:18:07.157>our <00:18:07.469>IP <00:18:07.781>address?

402
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<00:18:07.965>I <00:18:08.139>have <00:18:08.314>no <00:18:08.490>choice. <00:18:08.665>Well, <00:18:08.840>for <00:18:09.014>example, <00:18:09.189>like <00:18:09.365>this.

403
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<00:18:10.165>And <00:18:10.398>you <00:18:10.631>can <00:18:10.865>laugh <00:18:11.098>about <00:18:11.331>that. <00:18:11.565>Yeah.

404
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<00:18:12.665>But <00:18:12.764>it <00:18:12.865>is <00:18:12.965>how <00:18:13.065>is <00:18:13.165>Yeah, <00:18:13.264>it <00:18:13.365>is <00:18:13.465>works <00:18:13.565>as, <00:18:13.665>so <00:18:13.764>my <00:18:13.865>my <00:18:13.965>maybe <00:18:14.065>my,

405
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<00:18:16.665>if <00:18:16.945>I <00:18:17.225>would <00:18:17.504>be <00:18:17.784>able <00:18:18.065>should

406
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<00:18:20.065>to <00:18:20.240>give <00:18:20.415>advice <00:18:20.590>on <00:18:20.765>anybody <00:18:20.940>who's <00:18:21.115>making <00:18:21.290>these <00:18:21.465>rules,

407
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<00:18:23.545>my <00:18:23.720>advice <00:18:23.895>would <00:18:24.070>be, <00:18:24.245>Hey <00:18:24.420>guys, <00:18:24.595>bring <00:18:24.770>the <00:18:24.945>people

408
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<00:18:26.225>who <00:18:26.554>understand <00:18:26.885>the <00:18:27.215>things.

409
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<00:18:27.945>If <00:18:28.120>somebody <00:18:28.294>would <00:18:28.470>ask <00:18:28.645>me <00:18:28.820>now <00:18:28.995>to <00:18:29.169>make <00:18:29.345>rules,

410
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<00:18:30.305>if <00:18:30.460>I <00:18:30.616>would <00:18:30.771>be <00:18:30.927>the <00:18:31.082>master <00:18:31.238>of <00:18:31.393>let's <00:18:31.549>say <00:18:31.705>Europe

411
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<00:18:32.505>or <00:18:33.054>whatever, <00:18:33.602>uh,

412
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<00:18:34.025>and <00:18:34.180>you <00:18:34.336>ask <00:18:34.491>me <00:18:34.647>to <00:18:34.802>make <00:18:34.958>rules <00:18:35.113>for <00:18:35.269>COVID <00:18:35.425>virus

413
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<00:18:37.265>or <00:18:37.545>something, <00:18:37.825>I'm <00:18:38.105>not <00:18:38.385>a <00:18:38.665>doctor.

414
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<00:18:39.465>Uh, <00:18:39.745>I <00:18:40.024>I <00:18:40.304>can <00:18:40.584>do <00:18:40.865>Yeah.

415
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<00:18:42.465>But <00:18:42.745>I <00:18:43.024>cannot <00:18:43.304>do <00:18:43.584>that <00:18:43.865>honestly.

416
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<00:18:46.075>And <00:18:46.230>I <00:18:46.386>don't <00:18:46.541>want <00:18:46.697>then <00:18:46.852>somebody <00:18:47.008>who <00:18:47.163>is <00:18:47.319>a <00:18:47.475>doctor

417
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<00:18:48.925>make <00:18:49.206>me <00:18:49.487>rules <00:18:49.768>for <00:18:50.050>software.

418
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<00:18:50.375>Hmm. <00:18:50.575>You <00:18:50.775>understand <00:18:50.975>that, <00:18:51.175>that <00:18:51.375>that <00:18:51.575>that's <00:18:51.775>point.

419
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<00:18:52.515>And <00:18:52.748>this <00:18:52.981>is <00:18:53.215>what <00:18:53.448>enterprises <00:18:53.681>make <00:18:53.915>today

420
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<00:18:55.405>more <00:18:55.780>complicated <00:18:56.155>than <00:18:56.530>should.

421
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<00:18:57.035>And <00:18:57.175>of <00:18:57.315>course <00:18:57.455>the <00:18:57.595>the, <00:18:57.735>uh, <00:18:57.875>the <00:18:58.015>environments <00:18:58.155>like, <00:18:58.295>I <00:18:58.435>mean,

422
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<00:18:59.395>uh, <00:18:59.535>when <00:18:59.675>I <00:18:59.815>worked <00:18:59.955>with <00:19:00.095>larger <00:19:00.235>operations <00:19:00.375>when <00:19:00.514>I <00:19:00.655>was <00:19:00.795>at

423
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<00:19:02.535>Microsoft, <00:19:02.815>you <00:19:03.095>cannot <00:19:03.375>just <00:19:03.655>install <00:19:03.935>software.

424
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<00:19:05.275>You <00:19:05.508>cannot <00:19:05.741>just <00:19:05.975>use <00:19:06.208>things <00:19:06.441>nearly <00:19:06.675>willy

425
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<00:19:07.335>because <00:19:07.490>it <00:19:07.646>might <00:19:07.801>get <00:19:07.957>access <00:19:08.112>to <00:19:08.268>information <00:19:08.423>that <00:19:08.579>is <00:19:08.735>actually,

426
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<00:19:10.515>uh, <00:19:10.690>uh, <00:19:10.865>needs <00:19:11.040>to <00:19:11.215>be, <00:19:11.390>needs <00:19:11.565>to <00:19:11.740>stay <00:19:11.915>secure.

427
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<00:19:13.155>And <00:19:13.374>then <00:19:13.593>you <00:19:13.812>have <00:19:14.031>things <00:19:14.250>like <00:19:14.469>instead

428
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<00:19:14.615>of <00:19:14.815>give <00:19:15.015>giving <00:19:15.215>people <00:19:15.415>access <00:19:15.615>to <00:19:15.815>a <00:19:16.015>co-pilot,

429
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<00:19:17.325>they <00:19:17.605>actually <00:19:17.885>have <00:19:18.165>then <00:19:18.445>people <00:19:18.725>copy

430
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<00:19:19.195>and <00:19:19.370>paste <00:19:19.544>code <00:19:19.720>into, <00:19:19.895>uh, <00:19:20.070>into <00:19:20.245>an <00:19:20.419>online <00:19:20.595>LLM

431
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<00:19:22.275>and <00:19:22.430>actually <00:19:22.586>seed, <00:19:22.741>uh, <00:19:22.897>keys <00:19:23.052>and <00:19:23.208>and <00:19:23.363>secrets <00:19:23.519>that <00:19:23.675>way.

432
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<00:19:26.795>So <00:19:26.970>the, <00:19:27.145>the, <00:19:27.320>the <00:19:27.495>process <00:19:27.670>of <00:19:27.845>like <00:19:28.020>procuring <00:19:28.195>access

433
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<00:19:30.555>to <00:19:30.905>different <00:19:31.255>services <00:19:31.605>was <00:19:31.955>something

434
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<00:19:32.695>that <00:19:32.835>I <00:19:32.975>always <00:19:33.115>found <00:19:33.254>very <00:19:33.395>painful <00:19:33.534>in <00:19:33.675>terms <00:19:33.814>of <00:19:33.955>like, <00:19:34.095>uh,

435
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<00:19:35.395>in <00:19:35.608>terms <00:19:35.821>of <00:19:36.034>getting, <00:19:36.247>uh, <00:19:36.460>in <00:19:36.673>terms

436
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<00:19:36.815>of <00:19:37.015>getting <00:19:37.215>it <00:19:37.415>rolled <00:19:37.615>out <00:19:37.815>to <00:19:38.015>my <00:19:38.215>engineers.

437
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<00:19:38.995>And <00:19:39.135>in <00:19:39.274>a <00:19:39.415>world <00:19:39.554>that <00:19:39.695>moves <00:19:39.834>as <00:19:39.975>fast <00:19:40.114>as <00:19:40.254>this <00:19:40.395>one

438
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<00:19:41.735>that <00:19:41.959>we <00:19:42.185>have <00:19:42.409>right <00:19:42.635>now,

439
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<00:19:42.995>that's <00:19:43.228>a <00:19:43.461>real <00:19:43.695>tricky <00:19:43.928>point, <00:19:44.161>isn't <00:19:44.395>it?

440
00:19:44.735 --> 00:19:46.455
<00:19:44.735>Like <00:19:45.014>I, <00:19:45.294>I've <00:19:45.574>got <00:19:45.854>model <00:19:46.135>overload.

441
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<00:19:46.615>I <00:19:46.815>don't <00:19:47.015>know <00:19:47.215>anymore <00:19:47.415>which <00:19:47.615>model <00:19:47.815>to <00:19:48.015>use

442
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<00:19:48.455>because <00:19:48.688>there's <00:19:48.921>a <00:19:49.155>new <00:19:49.388>one <00:19:49.621>every <00:19:49.855>week.

443
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<00:19:50.815>Like <00:19:51.090>how <00:19:51.365>do <00:19:51.641>you <00:19:51.916>get <00:19:52.192>people,

444
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<00:19:52.605>how <00:19:52.780>do <00:19:52.955>you <00:19:53.130>keep <00:19:53.305>people <00:19:53.480>in <00:19:53.655>enterprises, <00:19:53.830>um, <00:19:54.005>excited

445
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<00:19:56.485>and <00:19:56.718>uh, <00:19:56.951>knowledgeable <00:19:57.185>about <00:19:57.418>the <00:19:57.651>current <00:19:57.885>movements

446
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<00:19:59.725>but <00:20:00.004>actually <00:20:00.284>not <00:20:00.564>leak <00:20:00.844>the <00:20:01.125>information

447
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<00:20:02.145>that <00:20:02.300>your <00:20:02.456>company <00:20:02.611>has <00:20:02.767>has <00:20:02.922>to <00:20:03.078>keep <00:20:03.233>secret. <00:20:03.389>How <00:20:03.545>do

448
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<00:20:05.125>You <00:20:05.350>do <00:20:05.575>that? <00:20:05.800>That's, <00:20:06.025>that's,

449
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<00:20:06.125>that's <00:20:06.591>actually <00:20:07.058>organization <00:20:07.525>point

450
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<00:20:07.865>that <00:20:08.040>is <00:20:08.215>like <00:20:08.390>if <00:20:08.565>you <00:20:08.740>have <00:20:08.915>a <00:20:09.090>kid <00:20:09.265>Yeah.

451
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<00:20:10.955>Which <00:20:11.288>has <00:20:11.621>no <00:20:11.954>phone

452
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<00:20:12.285>and <00:20:12.460>everybody <00:20:12.635>else, <00:20:12.810>everywhere <00:20:12.985>other <00:20:13.160>kid <00:20:13.335>has <00:20:13.510>a <00:20:13.685>phone,

453
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<00:20:15.405>the <00:20:15.580>question <00:20:15.754>is <00:20:15.930>how <00:20:16.105>can <00:20:16.280>you <00:20:16.455>prevent <00:20:16.629>this <00:20:16.805>kid

454
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<00:20:19.045>to <00:20:19.220>get <00:20:19.395>phone <00:20:19.570>experience <00:20:19.745>and <00:20:19.920>to <00:20:20.095>get <00:20:20.270>the <00:20:20.445>phone?

455
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<00:20:21.165>No <00:20:21.272>way. <00:20:21.380>You <00:20:21.488>are <00:20:21.595>not <00:20:21.703>going <00:20:21.811>do <00:20:21.918>things. <00:20:22.026>You <00:20:22.134>have <00:20:22.241>to <00:20:22.349>let <00:20:22.457>it <00:20:22.565>go.

456
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<00:20:25.545>Whatever <00:20:25.720>that <00:20:25.895>means. <00:20:26.070>Yeah. <00:20:26.245>But <00:20:26.420>you <00:20:26.595>have <00:20:26.770>no <00:20:26.945>choice

457
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<00:20:29.125>to <00:20:29.620>stop <00:20:30.115>that.

458
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<00:20:30.525>And <00:20:30.725>this <00:20:30.925>is <00:20:31.125>exactly <00:20:31.325>what <00:20:31.525>happened <00:20:31.725>in <00:20:31.925>enterprises.

459
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<00:20:33.345>I <00:20:33.485>know <00:20:33.625>20 <00:20:33.765>years <00:20:33.905>ago, <00:20:34.045>I <00:20:34.185>remember <00:20:34.325>you <00:20:34.465>go <00:20:34.605>to <00:20:34.745>work,

460
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<00:20:36.925>you <00:20:37.065>are <00:20:37.205>happy <00:20:37.345>because <00:20:37.485>you <00:20:37.625>know <00:20:37.764>that <00:20:37.905>the <00:20:38.044>machine <00:20:38.185>you <00:20:38.325>have

461
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<00:20:41.165>at <00:20:41.292>work <00:20:41.419>is <00:20:41.546>like <00:20:41.674>10 <00:20:41.801>times <00:20:41.928>better <00:20:42.055>than <00:20:42.183>that <00:20:42.310>what <00:20:42.437>you <00:20:42.565>have.

462
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<00:20:45.205>It <00:20:45.321>was <00:20:45.438>fun <00:20:45.554>to <00:20:45.671>me <00:20:45.788>to <00:20:45.905>go <00:20:46.021>there <00:20:46.138>like <00:20:46.254>a <00:20:46.371>big <00:20:46.488>piece. <00:20:46.605>Yeah.

463
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<00:20:49.145>And <00:20:49.272>right <00:20:49.399>now <00:20:49.526>today <00:20:49.654>it's <00:20:49.781>not <00:20:49.908>that <00:20:50.035>way. <00:20:50.163>You <00:20:50.290>are <00:20:50.417>at <00:20:50.545>home.

464
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<00:20:52.125>I <00:20:52.358>think <00:20:52.591>there <00:20:52.825>you <00:20:53.058>are <00:20:53.291>using <00:20:53.525>Gina,

465
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<00:20:53.765>you <00:20:53.905>are <00:20:54.045>using <00:20:54.185>whatever <00:20:54.325>rock <00:20:54.465>and <00:20:54.605>GPT <00:20:54.745>come <00:20:54.885>to <00:20:55.025>company <00:20:55.165>blocked.

466
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<00:20:57.955>Yeah. <00:20:58.129>Okay. <00:20:58.304>You <00:20:58.480>are <00:20:58.655>not <00:20:58.830>going <00:20:59.004>to <00:20:59.179>that <00:20:59.355>company.

467
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<00:21:00.635>This <00:21:00.915>I, <00:21:01.195>it's <00:21:01.475>also <00:21:01.754>my <00:21:02.035>advice

468
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<00:21:02.265>and <00:21:02.498>anybody <00:21:02.731>who's <00:21:02.965>making <00:21:03.198>this, <00:21:03.431>this <00:21:03.665>decision,

469
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<00:21:04.755>it's <00:21:05.227>just <00:21:05.700>wrong.

470
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<00:21:06.705>You <00:21:07.054>cannot <00:21:07.405>stop <00:21:07.754>things <00:21:08.105>evolving.

471
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<00:21:09.625>You <00:21:09.741>have <00:21:09.858>to <00:21:09.975>find <00:21:10.091>a <00:21:10.208>way <00:21:10.325>to <00:21:10.441>enable <00:21:10.558>things <00:21:10.675>in <00:21:10.791>a <00:21:10.908>reasonable <00:21:11.025>way.

472
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<00:21:14.025>And <00:21:14.180>now <00:21:14.336>coming <00:21:14.491>to <00:21:14.647>your <00:21:14.802>statement, <00:21:14.958>the <00:21:15.113>people <00:21:15.269>come <00:21:15.425>copy,

473
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<00:21:16.855>paste <00:21:16.982>and <00:21:17.109>put <00:21:17.236>in <00:21:17.364>GPT <00:21:17.491>somewhere <00:21:17.618>with <00:21:17.745>the <00:21:17.873>password <00:21:18.000>and <00:21:18.127>so <00:21:18.255>on.

474
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<00:21:19.515>This <00:21:19.715>is <00:21:19.915>also <00:21:20.115>something <00:21:20.315>error. <00:21:20.515>I <00:21:20.715>shouldn't <00:21:20.915>happen.

475
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<00:21:22.065>Uh, <00:21:22.220>you <00:21:22.376>should <00:21:22.531>not <00:21:22.687>have <00:21:22.842>a <00:21:22.998>possibility <00:21:23.153>to <00:21:23.309>copy <00:21:23.465>password

476
00:21:26.945 --> 00:21:27.965
<00:21:26.945>to <00:21:27.251>paste <00:21:27.557>it <00:21:27.862>somewhere.

477
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<00:21:27.965>Yeah. <00:21:28.188>The <00:21:28.411>password <00:21:28.634>should <00:21:28.857>be <00:21:29.081>somewhere,

478
00:21:29.205 --> 00:21:31.085
<00:21:29.205>environment <00:21:29.554>variable, <00:21:29.905>secret <00:21:30.254>tool, <00:21:30.605>whatever.

479
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<00:21:31.235>This <00:21:31.481>is <00:21:31.728>how <00:21:31.974>it <00:21:32.221>works. <00:21:32.468>Yeah.

480
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<00:21:33.145>And <00:21:33.300>if <00:21:33.456>it's <00:21:33.611>not <00:21:33.767>that <00:21:33.922>way, <00:21:34.078>there's <00:21:34.233>some <00:21:34.389>developer <00:21:34.545>password

481
00:21:35.565 --> 00:21:36.845
<00:21:35.565>that's <00:21:35.853>not <00:21:36.141>that <00:21:36.429>bad <00:21:36.717>happen.

482
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<00:21:36.875>Yeah. <00:21:37.108>Uh, <00:21:37.341>but <00:21:37.575>in <00:21:37.808>production <00:21:38.041>test <00:21:38.275>environment,

483
00:21:40.445 --> 00:21:42.685
<00:21:40.445>we <00:21:40.620>use <00:21:40.794>this <00:21:40.970>DevOps <00:21:41.145>and <00:21:41.320>pipelines <00:21:41.495>and <00:21:41.669>so <00:21:41.845>on.

484
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<00:21:43.115>It's <00:21:43.301>a <00:21:43.487>little <00:21:43.674>bit <00:21:43.860>out <00:21:44.047>of <00:21:44.233>this <00:21:44.420>context,

485
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<00:21:44.825>but <00:21:45.000>it's <00:21:45.175>the <00:21:45.350>way <00:21:45.525>how <00:21:45.700>to, <00:21:45.875>how <00:21:46.050>to <00:21:46.225>work.

486
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<00:21:46.805>You're <00:21:47.057>not <00:21:47.309>copy <00:21:47.561>and <00:21:47.812>paste <00:21:48.065>that.

487
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<00:21:48.585>And <00:21:48.760>especially <00:21:48.935>for <00:21:49.110>all <00:21:49.285>people <00:21:49.460>maybe <00:21:49.635>audience, <00:21:49.810>if <00:21:49.985>you,

488
00:21:51.145 --> 00:21:53.725
<00:21:51.145>if <00:21:51.300>you <00:21:51.456>use <00:21:51.611>for <00:21:51.767>example, <00:21:51.922>open <00:21:52.078>AI <00:21:52.233>or <00:21:52.389>similar <00:21:52.545>APIs,

489
00:21:54.025 --> 00:21:57.605
<00:21:54.025>and <00:21:54.180>if <00:21:54.336>you <00:21:54.491>password <00:21:54.647>is <00:21:54.802>somewhere <00:21:54.958>in <00:21:55.113>GitHub <00:21:55.269>repository <00:21:55.425>appear

490
00:21:57.605 --> 00:22:00.525
<00:21:57.605>because <00:21:57.885>somebody <00:21:58.165>for <00:21:58.445>whatever <00:21:58.725>reason <00:21:59.005>coincidentally

491
00:22:00.525 --> 00:22:04.445
<00:22:00.525>committed <00:22:00.725>there <00:22:00.925>immediately <00:22:01.125>in <00:22:01.325>less <00:22:01.525>than <00:22:01.725>five <00:22:01.925>seconds

492
00:22:04.585 --> 00:22:05.765
<00:22:04.585>you <00:22:05.116>get <00:22:05.647>notifications.

493
00:22:05.875 --> 00:22:08.205
<00:22:05.875>This <00:22:06.108>password <00:22:06.341>is <00:22:06.575>uh, <00:22:06.808>key <00:22:07.041>is <00:22:07.275>blocked

494
00:22:08.545 --> 00:22:11.285
<00:22:08.545>and <00:22:08.700>nobody <00:22:08.856>can <00:22:09.011>use <00:22:09.167>it, <00:22:09.322>which <00:22:09.478>is <00:22:09.633>actually <00:22:09.789>good <00:22:09.945>thing.

495
00:22:11.345 --> 00:22:13.485
<00:22:11.345>So <00:22:11.625>there <00:22:11.905>are <00:22:12.185>solutions <00:22:12.465>for <00:22:12.745>that.

496
00:22:13.545 --> 00:22:15.365
<00:22:13.545>But <00:22:13.778>you <00:22:14.011>know, <00:22:14.245>to <00:22:14.478>do <00:22:14.711>mistake <00:22:14.945>in

497
00:22:15.365 --> 00:22:18.125
<00:22:15.365>and <00:22:15.492>such <00:22:15.619>things, <00:22:15.746>we <00:22:15.874>will <00:22:16.001>allow <00:22:16.128>it <00:22:16.255>find <00:22:16.383>a <00:22:16.510>way <00:22:16.637>to <00:22:16.765>break

498
00:22:18.885 --> 00:22:19.925
<00:22:18.885>anything <00:22:19.119>what <00:22:19.353>we <00:22:19.587>ever <00:22:19.821>do.

499
00:22:20.275 --> 00:22:22.605
<00:22:20.275>What <00:22:20.430>would <00:22:20.586>you <00:22:20.741>say <00:22:20.897>is <00:22:21.052>the, <00:22:21.208>uh, <00:22:21.363>is <00:22:21.519>the <00:22:21.675>outcome

500
00:22:22.705 --> 00:22:25.285
<00:22:22.705>of <00:22:22.860>the <00:22:23.016>course <00:22:23.171>that <00:22:23.327>people, <00:22:23.482>when <00:22:23.638>they <00:22:23.793>take <00:22:23.949>that, <00:22:24.105>like

501
00:22:25.285 --> 00:22:27.885
<00:22:25.285>what <00:22:25.440>do <00:22:25.596>you, <00:22:25.751>what <00:22:25.907>do <00:22:26.062>you <00:22:26.218>want <00:22:26.373>people <00:22:26.529>to, <00:22:26.685>uh,

502
00:22:27.885 --> 00:22:30.725
<00:22:27.885>or <00:22:28.025>what <00:22:28.165>can <00:22:28.305>you <00:22:28.445>promise <00:22:28.585>people <00:22:28.725>that <00:22:28.865>they <00:22:29.004>will <00:22:29.145>come <00:22:29.285>out

503
00:22:30.725 --> 00:22:34.045
<00:22:30.725>of <00:22:30.841>the <00:22:30.958>course <00:22:31.074>if <00:22:31.191>they <00:22:31.308>take <00:22:31.425>it, <00:22:31.541>uh, <00:22:31.658>uh, <00:22:31.774>to <00:22:31.891>do <00:22:32.008>so <00:22:32.125>to,

504
00:22:34.225 --> 00:22:35.365
<00:22:34.225>to <00:22:34.481>take <00:22:34.738>to <00:22:34.994>their <00:22:35.251>boss?

505
00:22:35.435 --> 00:22:38.245
<00:22:35.435>Because <00:22:35.575>I <00:22:35.715>mean, <00:22:35.855>if <00:22:35.995>I <00:22:36.135>do <00:22:36.274>a <00:22:36.415>one <00:22:36.554>day <00:22:36.695>workshop, <00:22:36.835>it,

506
00:22:38.305 --> 00:22:41.085
<00:22:38.305>it <00:22:38.421>costs <00:22:38.538>money <00:22:38.655>and <00:22:38.771>I <00:22:38.888>actually <00:22:39.005>have <00:22:39.121>to <00:22:39.238>pro <00:22:39.355>prove <00:22:39.471>to <00:22:39.588>my <00:22:39.705>boss

507
00:22:41.085 --> 00:22:42.365
<00:22:41.085>that <00:22:41.277>something <00:22:41.469>good <00:22:41.661>came <00:22:41.853>out <00:22:42.045>of <00:22:42.237>it.

508
00:22:42.745 --> 00:22:45.165
<00:22:42.745>So <00:22:42.900>what <00:22:43.056>are <00:22:43.211>the <00:22:43.367>things <00:22:43.522>that, <00:22:43.678>that <00:22:43.833>you, <00:22:43.989>you <00:22:44.145>want

509
00:22:45.165 --> 00:22:47.445
<00:22:45.165>to <00:22:45.445>give <00:22:45.725>people <00:22:46.004>in <00:22:46.284>that <00:22:46.565>workshop?

510
00:22:47.505 --> 00:22:50.685
<00:22:47.505>So <00:22:47.645>they <00:22:47.785>can, <00:22:47.925>they <00:22:48.065>can <00:22:48.205>immediately <00:22:48.345>app <00:22:48.485>apply <00:22:48.625>where <00:22:48.765>they <00:22:48.905>work.

511
00:22:51.345 --> 00:22:53.925
<00:22:51.345>So <00:22:51.520>I <00:22:51.695>can <00:22:51.870>promise <00:22:52.045>what <00:22:52.220>thing <00:22:52.395>it'll <00:22:52.570>be <00:22:52.745>definitely

512
00:22:54.195 --> 00:22:56.605
<00:22:54.195>inspiring <00:22:54.895>for <00:22:55.595>everybody.

513
00:22:57.365 --> 00:23:00.805
<00:22:57.365>Whatever <00:22:57.520>knowledge <00:22:57.676>you <00:22:57.831>bring <00:22:57.987>on <00:22:58.142>the <00:22:58.298>table, <00:22:58.453>you <00:22:58.609>will <00:22:58.765>learn,

514
00:23:01.185 --> 00:23:06.165
<00:23:01.185>you <00:23:01.312>will <00:23:01.439>see <00:23:01.566>real <00:23:01.694>life <00:23:01.821>things, <00:23:01.948>which <00:23:02.075>we <00:23:02.203>do <00:23:02.330>right <00:23:02.457>now <00:23:02.585>for

515
00:23:06.195 --> 00:23:09.805
<00:23:06.195>what <00:23:06.350>we <00:23:06.506>can <00:23:06.661>use <00:23:06.817>AI <00:23:06.972>and <00:23:07.128>how <00:23:07.283>to <00:23:07.439>use <00:23:07.595>it.

516
00:23:10.305 --> 00:23:12.885
<00:23:10.305>It <00:23:10.655>is <00:23:11.005>completely <00:23:11.355>different <00:23:11.705>story.

517
00:23:12.985 --> 00:23:14.725
<00:23:12.985>I'm <00:23:13.159>not <00:23:13.334>going <00:23:13.510>to <00:23:13.685>talk <00:23:13.860>about <00:23:14.034>how <00:23:14.209>to <00:23:14.385>make

518
00:23:15.255 --> 00:23:17.925
<00:23:15.255>three <00:23:15.410>slides <00:23:15.566>on <00:23:15.721>something, <00:23:15.877>how <00:23:16.032>to <00:23:16.188>make <00:23:16.343>a <00:23:16.499>song, <00:23:16.655>how

519
00:23:17.925 --> 00:23:19.005
<00:23:17.925>to <00:23:18.087>make <00:23:18.249>a <00:23:18.411>picture <00:23:18.573>and <00:23:18.735>so <00:23:18.897>on.

520
00:23:19.005 --> 00:23:20.285
<00:23:19.005>That's <00:23:19.197>what <00:23:19.389>we <00:23:19.581>every <00:23:19.773>day <00:23:19.965>are <00:23:20.157>doing.

521
00:23:20.705 --> 00:23:21.965
<00:23:20.705>I'm <00:23:20.894>not <00:23:21.082>going <00:23:21.272>to <00:23:21.461>talk <00:23:21.649>about <00:23:21.839>how

522
00:23:21.965 --> 00:23:23.685
<00:23:21.965>to <00:23:22.245>use <00:23:22.524>some <00:23:22.804>tools <00:23:23.084>on <00:23:23.365>something.

523
00:23:23.945 --> 00:23:28.165
<00:23:23.945>We <00:23:24.072>will <00:23:24.199>go, <00:23:24.326>we'll <00:23:24.454>open <00:23:24.581>up <00:23:24.708>the <00:23:24.835>hub, <00:23:24.963>watch <00:23:25.090>inside <00:23:25.217>of <00:23:25.345>that

524
00:23:28.745 --> 00:23:31.925
<00:23:28.745>and <00:23:28.919>see <00:23:29.094>how <00:23:29.270>to <00:23:29.445>make <00:23:29.620>things <00:23:29.794>with <00:23:29.969>this, <00:23:30.145>how

525
00:23:31.925 --> 00:23:34.285
<00:23:31.925>to <00:23:32.158>make <00:23:32.391>solutions <00:23:32.625>which <00:23:32.858>are <00:23:33.091>really <00:23:33.325>help,

526
00:23:34.935 --> 00:23:37.565
<00:23:34.935>which <00:23:35.135>really <00:23:35.335>orchestrate <00:23:35.534>your <00:23:35.735>processes <00:23:35.935>and <00:23:36.135>so <00:23:36.335>on.

527
00:23:37.985 --> 00:23:42.925
<00:23:37.985>And <00:23:38.101>I'm <00:23:38.218>going <00:23:38.334>to <00:23:38.451>show <00:23:38.568>also <00:23:38.685>what <00:23:38.801>you <00:23:38.918>cannot <00:23:39.034>do <00:23:39.151>today <00:23:39.268>with <00:23:39.385>ai.

528
00:23:43.395 --> 00:23:45.525
<00:23:43.395>Also <00:23:43.628>same <00:23:43.861>thing. <00:23:44.095>What <00:23:44.328>you <00:23:44.561>cannot <00:23:44.795>orchestrate.

529
00:23:45.705 --> 00:23:48.085
<00:23:45.705>Why <00:23:45.938>you <00:23:46.171>cannot <00:23:46.405>orchestrate. <00:23:46.638>Just <00:23:46.871>one <00:23:47.105>example.

530
00:23:48.865 --> 00:23:52.485
<00:23:48.865>If <00:23:49.005>you <00:23:49.145>have, <00:23:49.285>please <00:23:49.425>do <00:23:49.565>this, <00:23:49.705>then <00:23:49.845>send <00:23:49.985>email <00:23:50.125>that <00:23:50.265>and

531
00:23:52.485 --> 00:23:53.685
<00:23:52.485>after <00:23:52.754>sending <00:23:53.024>email, <00:23:53.294>send <00:23:53.565>me

532
00:23:53.685 --> 00:23:54.925
<00:23:53.685>the <00:23:53.964>WhatsApp <00:23:54.243>message <00:23:54.522>or <00:23:54.801>something.

533
00:23:55.305 --> 00:23:56.885
<00:23:55.305>The <00:23:55.538>putting <00:23:55.771>all <00:23:56.005>this <00:23:56.238>in <00:23:56.471>the <00:23:56.705>state

534
00:23:56.885 --> 00:23:58.885
<00:23:56.885>and <00:23:57.118>state <00:23:57.351>persistent <00:23:57.585>across <00:23:57.818>all <00:23:58.051>these <00:23:58.285>steps

535
00:23:58.885 --> 00:23:59.925
<00:23:58.885>and <00:23:59.041>so <00:23:59.197>on, <00:23:59.353>is <00:23:59.509>a <00:23:59.665>big <00:23:59.821>problem.

536
00:24:00.985 --> 00:24:04.485
<00:24:00.985>And <00:24:01.218>mostly <00:24:01.451>ate. <00:24:01.685>It <00:24:01.918>doesn't <00:24:02.151>work <00:24:02.385>good.

537
00:24:04.875 --> 00:24:07.445
<00:24:04.875>Even <00:24:05.030>if <00:24:05.186>we <00:24:05.341>can <00:24:05.497>perfectly <00:24:05.652>send <00:24:05.808>a <00:24:05.963>message <00:24:06.119>to <00:24:06.275>us,

538
00:24:08.815 --> 00:24:11.365
<00:24:08.815>email <00:24:09.095>whatever <00:24:09.375>these <00:24:09.655>steps <00:24:09.935>we <00:24:10.215>can,

539
00:24:11.545 --> 00:24:13.525
<00:24:11.545>but <00:24:11.778>to <00:24:12.011>coordinate <00:24:12.245>that <00:24:12.478>with <00:24:12.711>stay <00:24:12.945>persistent

540
00:24:13.625 --> 00:24:15.765
<00:24:13.625>or <00:24:13.825>something <00:24:14.025>like <00:24:14.225>that, <00:24:14.425>these <00:24:14.625>are <00:24:14.825>big <00:24:15.025>problems.

541
00:24:15.765 --> 00:24:17.205
<00:24:15.765>We <00:24:15.981>are <00:24:16.197>right <00:24:16.413>now <00:24:16.629>working <00:24:16.845>on <00:24:17.061>that

542
00:24:17.905 --> 00:24:22.245
<00:24:17.905>and <00:24:18.060>very <00:24:18.216>often <00:24:18.371>have <00:24:18.527>no <00:24:18.682>solution <00:24:18.838>with <00:24:18.993>scale <00:24:19.149>for <00:24:19.305>every

543
00:24:22.925 --> 00:24:24.685
<00:24:22.925>possible <00:24:23.625>use <00:24:24.325>case.

544
00:24:25.195 --> 00:24:28.085
<00:24:25.195>What <00:24:25.370>is <00:24:25.544>one <00:24:25.720>thing <00:24:25.895>that <00:24:26.070>that <00:24:26.245>companies <00:24:26.419>that <00:24:26.595>partners,

545
00:24:28.165 --> 00:24:29.525
<00:24:28.165>I <00:24:28.369>mean <00:24:28.573>you <00:24:28.777>in <00:24:28.981>the <00:24:29.185>enterprise <00:24:29.389>space

546
00:24:29.525 --> 00:24:31.565
<00:24:29.525>or <00:24:29.758>you're <00:24:29.991>actually <00:24:30.225>basically <00:24:30.458>working <00:24:30.691>with <00:24:30.925>companies,

547
00:24:31.875 --> 00:24:35.205
<00:24:31.875>what <00:24:32.030>is <00:24:32.186>one <00:24:32.341>thing <00:24:32.497>they <00:24:32.652>want <00:24:32.808>AI <00:24:32.963>to <00:24:33.119>do <00:24:33.275>immediately

548
00:24:35.315 --> 00:24:36.645
<00:24:35.315>that <00:24:35.714>you <00:24:36.113>cannot <00:24:36.512>deliver

549
00:24:36.785 --> 00:24:39.245
<00:24:36.785>and <00:24:36.960>you <00:24:37.135>would <00:24:37.310>like <00:24:37.485>to <00:24:37.660>stop <00:24:37.835>people <00:24:38.010>asking <00:24:38.185>for

550
00:24:39.865 --> 00:24:44.165
<00:24:39.865>Mostly <00:24:40.040>the <00:24:40.215>people <00:24:40.390>more <00:24:40.565>or <00:24:40.740>less <00:24:40.915>complex <00:24:41.090>business <00:24:41.265>process

551
00:24:45.105 --> 00:24:48.125
<00:24:45.105>and <00:24:45.305>they <00:24:45.505>think <00:24:45.705>they <00:24:45.905>can <00:24:46.105>solve <00:24:46.305>it <00:24:46.505>going

552
00:24:48.145 --> 00:24:50.005
<00:24:48.145>to <00:24:48.425>let's <00:24:48.705>say <00:24:48.985>GPT <00:24:49.264>or <00:24:49.545>whatever.

553
00:24:50.035 --> 00:24:51.285
<00:24:50.035>Yeah, <00:24:50.597>going <00:24:51.160>there

554
00:24:51.505 --> 00:24:55.965
<00:24:51.505>and <00:24:51.705>uploading <00:24:51.905>some <00:24:52.105>PDFs, <00:24:52.305>maybe <00:24:52.505>some <00:24:52.705>Excel <00:24:52.905>table

555
00:24:56.865 --> 00:24:59.165
<00:24:56.865>and <00:24:57.005>say, <00:24:57.145>do <00:24:57.285>do <00:24:57.425>do <00:24:57.565>do <00:24:57.705>do <00:24:57.845>this <00:24:57.985>in <00:24:58.125>this, <00:24:58.265>this,

556
00:24:59.515 --> 00:25:02.245
<00:24:59.515>this <00:24:59.748>is <00:24:59.981>something <00:25:00.215>where <00:25:00.448>the <00:25:00.681>people, <00:25:00.915>everybody's

557
00:25:02.875 --> 00:25:07.805
<00:25:02.875>somehow <00:25:03.030>trying <00:25:03.186>to <00:25:03.341>do <00:25:03.497>whatever <00:25:03.652>I <00:25:03.808>just <00:25:03.963>named <00:25:04.119>example <00:25:04.275>PDF,

558
00:25:07.805 --> 00:25:08.925
<00:25:07.805>it <00:25:08.006>doesn't <00:25:08.208>have <00:25:08.409>to <00:25:08.611>be <00:25:08.812>pdf.

559
00:25:09.065 --> 00:25:10.725
<00:25:09.065>It <00:25:09.240>can <00:25:09.415>be <00:25:09.590>emailed, <00:25:09.765>it <00:25:09.940>can <00:25:10.115>be <00:25:10.290>something <00:25:10.465>else.

560
00:25:11.225 --> 00:25:12.445
<00:25:11.225>So <00:25:11.444>that's <00:25:11.664>what <00:25:11.883>the <00:25:12.103>people <00:25:12.322>want.

561
00:25:12.445 --> 00:25:13.645
<00:25:12.445>They <00:25:12.661>want <00:25:12.877>to <00:25:13.092>collect <00:25:13.309>the <00:25:13.525>data

562
00:25:13.945 --> 00:25:17.565
<00:25:13.945>and <00:25:14.120>based <00:25:14.294>on <00:25:14.470>this <00:25:14.645>data, <00:25:14.820>they <00:25:14.995>want <00:25:15.169>to <00:25:15.345>provide

563
00:25:18.785 --> 00:25:20.725
<00:25:18.785>in <00:25:19.135>some <00:25:19.485>specific <00:25:19.835>business <00:25:20.185>domain.

564
00:25:21.065 --> 00:25:23.405
<00:25:21.065>And <00:25:21.240>this <00:25:21.415>is <00:25:21.590>something <00:25:21.765>which <00:25:21.940>is <00:25:22.115>today <00:25:22.290>very <00:25:22.465>hard.

565
00:25:23.905 --> 00:25:27.405
<00:25:23.905>All <00:25:24.045>these <00:25:24.185>co-pilots <00:25:24.325>and <00:25:24.465>so <00:25:24.605>on, <00:25:24.745>they're <00:25:24.885>not <00:25:25.024>trained <00:25:25.165>for <00:25:25.305>that.

566
00:25:27.555 --> 00:25:30.445
<00:25:27.555>They're <00:25:27.710>trained <00:25:27.866>for <00:25:28.021>all <00:25:28.177>of <00:25:28.332>the <00:25:28.488>knowledge <00:25:28.643>of <00:25:28.799>internet <00:25:28.955>is

567
00:25:30.465 --> 00:25:32.565
<00:25:30.465>so <00:25:30.745>cool, <00:25:31.024>but <00:25:31.304>there <00:25:31.584>is <00:25:31.865>no

568
00:25:33.565 --> 00:25:35.525
<00:25:33.565>business <00:25:33.915>knowledge <00:25:34.265>inside <00:25:34.615>the <00:25:34.965>business.

569
00:25:35.525 --> 00:25:39.805
<00:25:35.525>Knowledge <00:25:35.680>of <00:25:35.836>every <00:25:35.991>company <00:25:36.147>waiting <00:25:36.302>on <00:25:36.458>internet <00:25:36.613>to <00:25:36.769>be <00:25:36.925>crawled

570
00:25:39.865 --> 00:25:42.165
<00:25:39.865>by <00:25:40.145>open <00:25:40.425>AI <00:25:40.705>or <00:25:40.985>somebody <00:25:41.265>else.

571
00:25:42.555 --> 00:25:44.365
<00:25:42.555>This <00:25:42.835>is <00:25:43.115>something <00:25:43.395>what <00:25:43.675>you <00:25:43.955>need

572
00:25:44.365 --> 00:25:45.645
<00:25:44.365>to <00:25:44.557>understand, <00:25:44.749>which <00:25:44.941>is <00:25:45.133>a <00:25:45.325>good <00:25:45.517>thing.

573
00:25:45.995 --> 00:25:47.085
<00:25:45.995>Data <00:25:46.485>are <00:25:46.976>protected,

574
00:25:47.545 --> 00:25:51.885
<00:25:47.545>but <00:25:47.745>these <00:25:47.945>cannot <00:25:48.145>help <00:25:48.345>solving <00:25:48.545>my <00:25:48.745>personal <00:25:48.945>issues

575
00:25:52.425 --> 00:25:54.965
<00:25:52.425>in <00:25:52.705>automating <00:25:52.985>my <00:25:53.264>personal <00:25:53.544>business <00:25:53.825>processes.

576
00:25:55.025 --> 00:25:56.685
<00:25:55.025>And <00:25:55.305>this <00:25:55.585>is <00:25:55.865>a <00:25:56.145>huge <00:25:56.425>field

577
00:25:57.775 --> 00:26:02.005
<00:25:57.775>where <00:25:57.950>the <00:25:58.125>new <00:25:58.300>solutions <00:25:58.475>will <00:25:58.650>happen <00:25:58.825>in <00:25:59.000>the <00:25:59.175>next,

578
00:26:02.425 --> 00:26:04.605
<00:26:02.425>not <00:26:02.774>years <00:26:03.125>in <00:26:03.475>the <00:26:03.825>year.

579
00:26:05.075 --> 00:26:07.725
<00:26:05.075>This <00:26:05.250>is <00:26:05.425>why <00:26:05.600>right <00:26:05.775>now <00:26:05.950>something, <00:26:06.125>what's <00:26:06.300>right <00:26:06.475>happening,

580
00:26:07.725 --> 00:26:09.765
<00:26:07.725>what <00:26:07.899>I'm <00:26:08.074>doing <00:26:08.250>with <00:26:08.425>my <00:26:08.600>team, <00:26:08.774>also <00:26:08.949>my <00:26:09.125>colleagues,

581
00:26:09.765 --> 00:26:12.605
<00:26:09.765>which <00:26:09.905>I <00:26:10.045>know <00:26:10.185>who <00:26:10.325>are <00:26:10.465>not <00:26:10.605>from <00:26:10.745>my <00:26:10.885>company <00:26:11.025>also <00:26:11.165>com,

582
00:26:13.355 --> 00:26:14.965
<00:26:13.355>competitive <00:26:13.705>companies <00:26:14.055>and <00:26:14.405>so <00:26:14.755>on.

583
00:26:14.965 --> 00:26:16.365
<00:26:14.965>That's <00:26:15.216>what <00:26:15.469>we're <00:26:15.721>doing <00:26:15.973>right <00:26:16.225>now.

584
00:26:17.175 --> 00:26:19.885
<00:26:17.175>Automating <00:26:17.350>business <00:26:17.524>processes <00:26:17.700>with <00:26:17.875>some <00:26:18.050>agents <00:26:18.225>and <00:26:18.399>so <00:26:18.575>on

585
00:26:20.105 --> 00:26:21.125
<00:26:20.105>and <00:26:20.288>so <00:26:20.472>on <00:26:20.655>and <00:26:20.839>so <00:26:21.023>on.

586
00:26:21.905 --> 00:26:24.645
<00:26:21.905>And <00:26:22.060>this <00:26:22.216>is <00:26:22.371>something, <00:26:22.527>what <00:26:22.682>is <00:26:22.838>growing <00:26:22.993>step <00:26:23.149>by <00:26:23.305>step.

587
00:26:24.815 --> 00:26:26.125
<00:26:24.815>There <00:26:25.208>are <00:26:25.601>specialized <00:26:25.994>models

588
00:26:26.185 --> 00:26:27.605
<00:26:26.185>and <00:26:26.504>there <00:26:26.824>are <00:26:27.143>specialized <00:26:27.463>MTP

589
00:26:27.605 --> 00:26:28.805
<00:26:27.605>servers <00:26:27.821>for <00:26:28.037>that <00:26:28.253>kind <00:26:28.469>of <00:26:28.685>stuff.

590
00:26:28.805 --> 00:26:32.325
<00:26:28.805>Like <00:26:28.945>you <00:26:29.085>basically, <00:26:29.225>you, <00:26:29.365>instead <00:26:29.505>of <00:26:29.645>just <00:26:29.785>using <00:26:29.925>the <00:26:30.065>LLM <00:26:30.205>out

591
00:26:32.325 --> 00:26:33.765
<00:26:32.325>of <00:26:32.510>the <00:26:32.695>box <00:26:32.880>that <00:26:33.065>actually <00:26:33.250>as <00:26:33.435>you <00:26:33.621>said,

592
00:26:34.175 --> 00:26:37.085
<00:26:34.175>index <00:26:34.330>the <00:26:34.486>whole <00:26:34.641>internet <00:26:34.797>and <00:26:34.952>gives <00:26:35.108>you <00:26:35.263>random <00:26:35.419>stuff <00:26:35.575>back.

593
00:26:37.425 --> 00:26:41.205
<00:26:37.425>You <00:26:37.552>can <00:26:37.679>go, <00:26:37.806>uh, <00:26:37.934>uh, <00:26:38.061>through, <00:26:38.188>uh, <00:26:38.315>through <00:26:38.443>a <00:26:38.570>firewall <00:26:38.697>of <00:26:38.825>sorts

594
00:26:41.265 --> 00:26:42.685
<00:26:41.265>or <00:26:41.520>like <00:26:41.776>a <00:26:42.031>proxy <00:26:42.287>of <00:26:42.543>sorts

595
00:26:42.995 --> 00:26:45.765
<00:26:42.995>that <00:26:43.195>says <00:26:43.395>like <00:26:43.594>only <00:26:43.794>gimme <00:26:43.995>specific <00:26:44.195>domain <00:26:44.395>knowledge.

596
00:26:45.865 --> 00:26:49.045
<00:26:45.865>But <00:26:46.040>it <00:26:46.215>feels <00:26:46.390>like <00:26:46.565>that <00:26:46.740>it, <00:26:46.915>people <00:26:47.090>don't <00:26:47.265>know

597
00:26:49.045 --> 00:26:51.325
<00:26:49.045>that <00:26:49.200>this <00:26:49.356>is <00:26:49.511>an <00:26:49.667>option <00:26:49.822>that <00:26:49.978>they, <00:26:50.133>that <00:26:50.289>they <00:26:50.445>have.

598
00:26:51.325 --> 00:26:54.445
<00:26:51.325>They <00:26:51.500>just <00:26:51.675>wait <00:26:51.850>for <00:26:52.025>a <00:26:52.200>copilot <00:26:52.375>to <00:26:52.550>offer <00:26:52.725>that

599
00:26:54.505 --> 00:26:57.045
<00:26:54.505>as <00:26:54.660>an <00:26:54.816>extra <00:26:54.971>package <00:26:55.127>rather <00:26:55.282>than <00:26:55.438>just <00:26:55.593>doing <00:26:55.749>it <00:26:55.905>themselves.

600
00:26:57.795 --> 00:27:00.565
<00:26:57.795>Exactly. <00:26:57.950>This <00:26:58.106>is <00:26:58.261>exactly <00:26:58.417>the <00:26:58.572>way <00:26:58.728>how, <00:26:58.883>how <00:26:59.039>it <00:26:59.195>happens.

601
00:27:01.305 --> 00:27:03.645
<00:27:01.305>And <00:27:01.505>uh, <00:27:01.705>right <00:27:01.905>now, <00:27:02.105>the <00:27:02.305>the <00:27:02.505>people, <00:27:02.705>uh,

602
00:27:04.235 --> 00:27:05.845
<00:27:04.235>many <00:27:04.514>people <00:27:04.794>in <00:27:05.074>enterprise <00:27:05.354>who <00:27:05.635>have,

603
00:27:05.945 --> 00:27:07.525
<00:27:05.945>of <00:27:06.294>course <00:27:06.645>they <00:27:06.995>don't <00:27:07.345>understand

604
00:27:07.525 --> 00:27:08.645
<00:27:07.525>deeper <00:27:07.777>the <00:27:08.029>knowledge <00:27:08.281>of <00:27:08.533>that.

605
00:27:08.785 --> 00:27:10.885
<00:27:08.785>I'm <00:27:08.960>not <00:27:09.135>talking <00:27:09.310>now <00:27:09.485>about <00:27:09.660>software <00:27:09.835>develops <00:27:10.010>an <00:27:10.185>engineer.

606
00:27:10.885 --> 00:27:13.765
<00:27:10.885>They're <00:27:11.040>just <00:27:11.196>normal <00:27:11.351>users <00:27:11.507>in <00:27:11.662>the <00:27:11.818>company <00:27:11.973>are <00:27:12.129>skilled <00:27:12.285>people

607
00:27:13.825 --> 00:27:14.885
<00:27:13.825>who <00:27:14.063>are <00:27:14.302>not <00:27:14.540>software <00:27:14.779>people.

608
00:27:15.345 --> 00:27:18.405
<00:27:15.345>Uh, <00:27:15.625>they're <00:27:15.905>uh, <00:27:16.185>a <00:27:16.465>little <00:27:16.745>bit,

609
00:27:18.585 --> 00:27:20.485
<00:27:18.585>uh, <00:27:19.051>confused <00:27:19.518>right <00:27:19.985>now.

610
00:27:20.485 --> 00:27:22.125
<00:27:20.485>What <00:27:20.685>is <00:27:20.885>the <00:27:21.084>agent? <00:27:21.284>What <00:27:21.485>is <00:27:21.685>the <00:27:21.885>co-pilot?

611
00:27:22.125 --> 00:27:24.205
<00:27:22.125>What <00:27:22.358>is <00:27:22.591>the <00:27:22.825>MCP <00:27:23.058>and <00:27:23.291>so <00:27:23.525>on?

612
00:27:24.205 --> 00:27:28.125
<00:27:24.205>They, <00:27:24.360>they <00:27:24.516>don't <00:27:24.671>understand <00:27:24.827>that <00:27:24.982>if <00:27:25.138>you <00:27:25.293>have <00:27:25.449>a <00:27:25.605>agent

613
00:27:28.985 --> 00:27:31.685
<00:27:28.985>and <00:27:29.125>that <00:27:29.264>the <00:27:29.405>agent <00:27:29.544>as <00:27:29.685>the <00:27:29.824>agent <00:27:29.965>is <00:27:30.104>not <00:27:30.245>the <00:27:30.385>model,

614
00:27:31.895 --> 00:27:34.085
<00:27:31.895>there <00:27:32.070>is <00:27:32.245>a <00:27:32.420>model <00:27:32.595>which <00:27:32.770>is <00:27:32.945>connected <00:27:33.120>to <00:27:33.295>agent,

615
00:27:34.085 --> 00:27:35.085
<00:27:34.085>which <00:27:34.385>you <00:27:34.685>can <00:27:34.985>replace.

616
00:27:35.185 --> 00:27:39.405
<00:27:35.185>You <00:27:35.360>use <00:27:35.534>Gemini, <00:27:35.710>you <00:27:35.885>use, <00:27:36.060>you <00:27:36.235>use <00:27:36.409>whatever <00:27:36.585>GPT,

617
00:27:39.845 --> 00:27:42.085
<00:27:39.845>whatever <00:27:40.000>model <00:27:40.156>you, <00:27:40.311>you <00:27:40.467>want <00:27:40.622>to <00:27:40.778>use <00:27:40.933>your <00:27:41.089>training <00:27:41.245>model.

618
00:27:42.105 --> 00:27:43.765
<00:27:42.105>You <00:27:42.338>can <00:27:42.571>connect <00:27:42.805>it <00:27:43.038>to <00:27:43.271>agent <00:27:43.505>agency

619
00:27:43.765 --> 00:27:46.725
<00:27:43.765>and <00:27:43.998>is <00:27:44.231>independent <00:27:44.465>typically <00:27:44.698>of <00:27:44.931>the <00:27:45.165>model.

620
00:27:47.065 --> 00:27:51.365
<00:27:47.065>But <00:27:47.205>now <00:27:47.345>it's <00:27:47.485>coming <00:27:47.625>MCP <00:27:47.765>1, <00:27:47.905>2, <00:27:48.045>3, <00:27:48.185>many <00:27:48.325>MCP <00:27:48.465>servers,

621
00:27:51.535 --> 00:27:55.365
<00:27:51.535>which <00:27:51.768>extend <00:27:52.001>you <00:27:52.235>to <00:27:52.468>the <00:27:52.701>external <00:27:52.935>world.

622
00:27:55.505 --> 00:27:57.925
<00:27:55.505>If <00:27:55.660>you <00:27:55.816>want <00:27:55.971>to <00:27:56.127>see <00:27:56.282>what <00:27:56.438>is <00:27:56.593>the <00:27:56.749>better <00:27:56.905>data,

623
00:27:58.015 --> 00:28:00.885
<00:27:58.015>which <00:27:58.295>right <00:27:58.575>is <00:27:58.855>going <00:27:59.135>flying <00:27:59.415>somewhere,

624
00:28:01.515 --> 00:28:02.965
<00:28:01.515>what <00:28:01.841>are <00:28:02.167>your <00:28:02.493>vacation <00:28:02.820>data?

625
00:28:03.325 --> 00:28:05.005
<00:28:03.325>Whatever <00:28:03.525>you <00:28:03.725>want, <00:28:03.925>you <00:28:04.125>need <00:28:04.325>some <00:28:04.525>kind <00:28:04.725>of

626
00:28:05.655 --> 00:28:06.815
<00:28:05.655>connectivity <00:28:06.177>to <00:28:06.699>that.

627
00:28:06.955 --> 00:28:11.655
<00:28:06.955>And <00:28:07.129>this <00:28:07.304>connectivity <00:28:07.480>is <00:28:07.655>bystander <00:28:07.830>today <00:28:08.004>implemented <00:28:08.179>by <00:28:08.355>MCP.

628
00:28:11.655 --> 00:28:14.295
<00:28:11.655>And <00:28:11.795>that's <00:28:11.935>what <00:28:12.075>the <00:28:12.215>people <00:28:12.355>need <00:28:12.495>a <00:28:12.635>little <00:28:12.774>bit <00:28:12.915>to <00:28:13.055>understand.

629
00:28:14.545 --> 00:28:15.935
<00:28:14.545>There <00:28:14.857>are <00:28:15.170>also <00:28:15.483>then <00:28:15.796>agents

630
00:28:16.055 --> 00:28:17.575
<00:28:16.055>and <00:28:16.283>agents <00:28:16.511>which <00:28:16.739>are <00:28:16.967>connected <00:28:17.195>to <00:28:17.423>that.

631
00:28:17.575 --> 00:28:20.175
<00:28:17.575>You <00:28:17.730>can <00:28:17.886>also <00:28:18.041>make <00:28:18.197>a <00:28:18.352>ZP <00:28:18.508>zero, <00:28:18.663>which <00:28:18.819>is <00:28:18.975>acting

632
00:28:20.275 --> 00:28:21.575
<00:28:20.275>as <00:28:20.509>agents, <00:28:20.743>which <00:28:20.977>you <00:28:21.211>don't <00:28:21.445>know.

633
00:28:21.995 --> 00:28:24.175
<00:28:21.995>Uh, <00:28:22.228>and <00:28:22.461>this <00:28:22.695>make <00:28:22.928>things <00:28:23.161>very <00:28:23.395>interesting

634
00:28:24.175 --> 00:28:26.935
<00:28:24.175>and <00:28:24.315>very <00:28:24.455>complex <00:28:24.595>as <00:28:24.735>right <00:28:24.875>now <00:28:25.014>we <00:28:25.155>are <00:28:25.294>getting <00:28:25.435>the <00:28:25.575>mesh

635
00:28:26.935 --> 00:28:27.935
<00:28:26.935>of <00:28:27.385>agents <00:28:27.835>somewhere.

636
00:28:27.935 --> 00:28:29.335
<00:28:27.935>This <00:28:28.250>is <00:28:28.565>what's <00:28:28.880>is <00:28:29.195>growing.

637
00:28:29.875 --> 00:28:32.175
<00:28:29.875>But <00:28:30.108>coming <00:28:30.341>back <00:28:30.575>again, <00:28:30.808>this <00:28:31.041>sounds <00:28:31.275>everything,

638
00:28:32.175 --> 00:28:34.535
<00:28:32.175>science <00:28:32.641>fiction, <00:28:33.108>cool <00:28:33.575>stuff,

639
00:28:35.075 --> 00:28:38.815
<00:28:35.075>but <00:28:35.308>as <00:28:35.541>long <00:28:35.775>we <00:28:36.008>are <00:28:36.241>not <00:28:36.475>deterministic.

640
00:28:39.155 --> 00:28:40.935
<00:28:39.155>As <00:28:39.388>long <00:28:39.621>we <00:28:39.855>not <00:28:40.088>are <00:28:40.321>not <00:28:40.555>able

641
00:28:40.935 --> 00:28:43.135
<00:28:40.935>to <00:28:41.135>fix <00:28:41.335>a <00:28:41.534>single <00:28:41.735>agent <00:28:41.935>to <00:28:42.135>work <00:28:42.335>perfectly.

642
00:28:43.175 --> 00:28:45.735
<00:28:43.175>A <00:28:43.408>hundred <00:28:43.641>percent. <00:28:43.875>Then <00:28:44.108>also <00:28:44.341>the <00:28:44.575>mesh

643
00:28:45.735 --> 00:28:47.215
<00:28:45.735>of <00:28:46.068>agents <00:28:46.400>will <00:28:46.734>not <00:28:47.067>work.

644
00:28:47.415 --> 00:28:50.055
<00:28:47.415>A <00:28:47.615>hundred <00:28:47.815>percent <00:28:48.014>definitely <00:28:48.215>will <00:28:48.415>be <00:28:48.615>even <00:28:48.815>bigger

645
00:28:50.125 --> 00:28:51.415
<00:28:50.125>mess <00:28:50.415>than <00:28:50.705>a <00:28:50.995>single <00:28:51.286>one.

646
00:28:51.835 --> 00:28:54.055
<00:28:51.835>And <00:28:52.035>this <00:28:52.235>is <00:28:52.435>something <00:28:52.635>where <00:28:52.835>today <00:28:53.035>the <00:28:53.235>industry

647
00:28:54.055 --> 00:28:57.535
<00:28:54.055>to <00:28:54.288>deliver <00:28:54.521>a <00:28:54.755>specific <00:28:54.988>agent <00:28:55.221>does <00:28:55.455>things.

648
00:28:57.995 --> 00:29:01.215
<00:28:57.995>And <00:28:58.150>if <00:28:58.306>we <00:28:58.461>have <00:28:58.617>MCP <00:28:58.772>now, <00:28:58.928>which <00:28:59.083>does <00:28:59.239>thousand <00:28:59.395>things,

649
00:29:01.915 --> 00:29:02.975
<00:29:01.915>it <00:29:02.233>should <00:29:02.551>work <00:29:02.869>perfect.

650
00:29:03.675 --> 00:29:04.895
<00:29:03.675>And <00:29:04.041>that's <00:29:04.407>something <00:29:04.773>what's,

651
00:29:05.125 --> 00:29:09.695
<00:29:05.125>what <00:29:05.265>is <00:29:05.405>a <00:29:05.545>good <00:29:05.685>thing <00:29:05.825>which <00:29:05.965>enables <00:29:06.105>that <00:29:06.245>with <00:29:06.385>MCP <00:29:06.525>agent

652
00:29:09.995 --> 00:29:12.815
<00:29:09.995>and <00:29:10.228>the <00:29:10.461>model <00:29:10.695>together, <00:29:10.928>these <00:29:11.161>three <00:29:11.395>components

653
00:29:13.455 --> 00:29:14.935
<00:29:13.455>together <00:29:13.788>as <00:29:14.120>a <00:29:14.454>single <00:29:14.787>agent.

654
00:29:15.435 --> 00:29:17.895
<00:29:15.435>So <00:29:15.610>what <00:29:15.784>are <00:29:15.960>you <00:29:16.135>excited <00:29:16.310>about <00:29:16.485>the <00:29:16.659>Congress <00:29:16.835>itself?

655
00:29:17.925 --> 00:29:19.975
<00:29:17.925>Like <00:29:18.125>what, <00:29:18.325>why, <00:29:18.524>why <00:29:18.725>did <00:29:18.925>you <00:29:19.125>choose <00:29:19.325>to,

656
00:29:20.035 --> 00:29:21.215
<00:29:20.035>to <00:29:20.300>do <00:29:20.566>a <00:29:20.831>workshop <00:29:21.097>there?

657
00:29:21.215 --> 00:29:24.255
<00:29:21.215>What, <00:29:21.342>what <00:29:21.469>is, <00:29:21.596>what <00:29:21.724>is <00:29:21.851>the <00:29:21.978>thing <00:29:22.105>that <00:29:22.233>made <00:29:22.360>it <00:29:22.487>uh, <00:29:22.615>uh,

658
00:29:24.355 --> 00:29:25.855
<00:29:24.355>an <00:29:24.692>interesting <00:29:25.030>opportunity <00:29:25.367>for <00:29:25.705>you?

659
00:29:26.715 --> 00:29:31.615
<00:29:26.715>Um, <00:29:26.870>I'm <00:29:27.026>for <00:29:27.181>very <00:29:27.337>long <00:29:27.492>time <00:29:27.648>speaker <00:29:27.803>in <00:29:27.959>different <00:29:28.115>summits,

660
00:29:31.615 --> 00:29:34.335
<00:29:31.615>conferences, <00:29:32.081>whatever <00:29:32.548>specifically <00:29:33.015>Microsoft,

661
00:29:34.335 --> 00:29:35.375
<00:29:34.335>also <00:29:34.803>big <00:29:35.271>conferences.

662
00:29:35.595 --> 00:29:40.055
<00:29:35.595>So <00:29:35.735>like <00:29:35.875>Ignite <00:29:36.015>and <00:29:36.155>and <00:29:36.295>AI <00:29:36.435>tour <00:29:36.575>or <00:29:36.715>something <00:29:36.855>like <00:29:36.995>that.

663
00:29:40.515 --> 00:29:44.365
<00:29:40.515>And <00:29:40.690>specifically <00:29:40.865>this <00:29:41.040>one <00:29:41.215>is <00:29:41.390>um, <00:29:41.565>I <00:29:41.740>don't <00:29:41.915>know,

664
00:29:44.365 --> 00:29:48.125
<00:29:44.365>bigger <00:29:44.565>one <00:29:44.765>in <00:29:44.965>Europe <00:29:45.165>where <00:29:45.365>so <00:29:45.565>many <00:29:45.765>people

665
00:29:48.865 --> 00:29:50.685
<00:29:48.865>uh, <00:29:49.565>put <00:29:50.265>together.

666
00:29:51.505 --> 00:29:53.405
<00:29:51.505>And, <00:29:51.738>and <00:29:51.971>to <00:29:52.205>me <00:29:52.438>it's <00:29:52.671>also <00:29:52.905>interesting.

667
00:29:53.505 --> 00:29:55.685
<00:29:53.505>I'm <00:29:53.785>coming <00:29:54.065>from <00:29:54.345>Microsoft <00:29:54.625>Word. <00:29:54.905>Yeah.

668
00:29:55.985 --> 00:30:00.885
<00:29:55.985>And <00:29:56.112>here <00:29:56.239>this <00:29:56.366>congress, <00:29:56.494>you <00:29:56.621>meet <00:29:56.748>all <00:29:56.875>of <00:29:57.003>the <00:29:57.130>works, <00:29:57.257>which <00:29:57.385>is

669
00:30:01.145 --> 00:30:04.445
<00:30:01.145>to <00:30:01.285>me <00:30:01.425>also <00:30:01.565>interesting <00:30:01.705>to <00:30:01.845>go <00:30:01.985>there <00:30:02.125>to <00:30:02.264>learn <00:30:02.405>the <00:30:02.545>people.

670
00:30:05.385 --> 00:30:08.845
<00:30:05.385>To <00:30:05.512>meet <00:30:05.639>the <00:30:05.766>people <00:30:05.894>and <00:30:06.021>to <00:30:06.148>learn. <00:30:06.275>You <00:30:06.403>are <00:30:06.530>in <00:30:06.657>an <00:30:06.785>audience.

671
00:30:08.905 --> 00:30:12.765
<00:30:08.905>If <00:30:09.032>I <00:30:09.159>have, <00:30:09.286>let's <00:30:09.414>say <00:30:09.541>in <00:30:09.668>my <00:30:09.795>usual <00:30:09.923>talks <00:30:10.050>are <00:30:10.177>anyhow, <00:30:10.305>50%

672
00:30:12.765 --> 00:30:14.725
<00:30:12.765>of <00:30:12.998>people <00:30:13.231>at <00:30:13.465>least <00:30:13.698>somehow <00:30:13.931>Microsoft <00:30:14.165>something.

673
00:30:15.625 --> 00:30:17.445
<00:30:15.625>And <00:30:16.091>I <00:30:16.558>know <00:30:17.025>Azure,

674
00:30:17.625 --> 00:30:20.645
<00:30:17.625>but <00:30:17.780>there <00:30:17.936>is <00:30:18.091>another <00:30:18.247>health <00:30:18.402>people <00:30:18.558>who <00:30:18.713>are <00:30:18.869>not <00:30:19.025>that.

675
00:30:21.465 --> 00:30:24.605
<00:30:21.465>And <00:30:21.665>they <00:30:21.865>learned <00:30:22.064>from <00:30:22.264>me. <00:30:22.465>Yeah. <00:30:22.665>Or <00:30:22.865>Microsoft.

676
00:30:24.665 --> 00:30:25.925
<00:30:24.665>And <00:30:24.948>I <00:30:25.232>learned <00:30:25.515>from <00:30:25.799>them.

677
00:30:26.225 --> 00:30:28.965
<00:30:26.225>And <00:30:26.574>you <00:30:26.925>people <00:30:27.274>asking <00:30:27.625>questions,

678
00:30:29.935 --> 00:30:32.565
<00:30:29.935>which <00:30:30.168>usually <00:30:30.401>not <00:30:30.635>Microsoft <00:30:30.868>people <00:30:31.101>wouldn't <00:30:31.335>ask.

679
00:30:32.565 --> 00:30:35.925
<00:30:32.565>Yeah. <00:30:32.720>And <00:30:32.876>this <00:30:33.031>is <00:30:33.187>also <00:30:33.342>good <00:30:33.498>to <00:30:33.653>me <00:30:33.809>to <00:30:33.965>learn

680
00:30:36.155 --> 00:30:37.245
<00:30:36.155>what <00:30:36.482>the <00:30:36.809>people <00:30:37.136>need.

681
00:30:37.585 --> 00:30:38.885
<00:30:37.585>And <00:30:37.877>this <00:30:38.170>is <00:30:38.462>actually <00:30:38.755>exchange.

682
00:30:39.145 --> 00:30:40.885
<00:30:39.145>I'm <00:30:39.345>also <00:30:39.545>not <00:30:39.745>always <00:30:39.945>speaker <00:30:40.145>of <00:30:40.345>my <00:30:40.545>life.

683
00:30:41.025 --> 00:30:43.405
<00:30:41.025>I'm <00:30:41.180>also <00:30:41.336>very <00:30:41.491>often <00:30:41.647>sitting <00:30:41.802>in <00:30:41.958>an <00:30:42.113>audience <00:30:42.269>learning <00:30:42.425>from

684
00:30:43.405 --> 00:30:45.445
<00:30:43.405>other <00:30:43.638>people <00:30:43.871>and <00:30:44.105>also <00:30:44.338>asking <00:30:44.571>the <00:30:44.805>question.

685
00:30:45.785 --> 00:30:50.605
<00:30:45.785>And <00:30:45.925>this <00:30:46.065>is <00:30:46.205>a <00:30:46.345>congress <00:30:46.485>where <00:30:46.625>we <00:30:46.765>can <00:30:46.905>perfectly <00:30:47.045>enjoy <00:30:47.185>that

686
00:30:52.215 --> 00:30:54.155
<00:30:52.215>sym <00:30:52.564>between <00:30:52.915>all <00:30:53.264>of <00:30:53.615>this.

687
00:30:54.225 --> 00:30:55.955
<00:30:54.225>Yeah. <00:30:54.504>This <00:30:54.784>is <00:30:55.064>just <00:30:55.344>massive <00:30:55.625>people.

688
00:30:56.155 --> 00:30:57.675
<00:30:56.155>I <00:30:56.326>don't <00:30:56.497>know <00:30:56.668>how <00:30:56.839>many <00:30:57.010>people <00:30:57.181>we <00:30:57.351>were, <00:30:57.523>14,

689
00:30:57.675 --> 00:30:59.075
<00:30:57.675>15,000 <00:30:57.990>or <00:30:58.305>something <00:30:58.620>like <00:30:58.935>that.

690
00:30:59.425 --> 00:31:03.835
<00:30:59.425>It's <00:30:59.580>really, <00:30:59.736>really <00:30:59.891>a <00:31:00.047>really <00:31:00.202>big <00:31:00.358>thing. <00:31:00.513>It's, <00:31:00.669>it's <00:31:00.825>good.

691
00:31:04.375 --> 00:31:06.875
<00:31:04.375>And <00:31:04.515>of <00:31:04.655>course <00:31:04.795>lot <00:31:04.935>person, <00:31:05.075>at <00:31:05.215>least <00:31:05.355>I <00:31:05.495>meet <00:31:05.635>a <00:31:05.775>lot

692
00:31:06.875 --> 00:31:08.395
<00:31:06.875>of <00:31:07.217>friends <00:31:07.559>there, <00:31:07.901>other <00:31:08.243>speakers

693
00:31:08.455 --> 00:31:10.315
<00:31:08.455>and <00:31:08.655>also <00:31:08.855>other <00:31:09.054>people <00:31:09.254>who <00:31:09.455>are <00:31:09.655>not <00:31:09.855>speakers

694
00:31:10.335 --> 00:31:12.315
<00:31:10.335>who <00:31:10.685>you <00:31:11.035>usually <00:31:11.385>meet <00:31:11.735>once

695
00:31:12.415 --> 00:31:15.835
<00:31:12.415>or <00:31:12.648>twice <00:31:12.881>a <00:31:13.115>year <00:31:13.348>on <00:31:13.581>such <00:31:13.815>events.

696
00:31:15.905 --> 00:31:18.915
<00:31:15.905>Yeah. <00:31:16.105>And <00:31:16.305>I'm <00:31:16.504>really <00:31:16.705>happy <00:31:16.905>to <00:31:17.105>meet <00:31:17.305>them.

697
00:31:18.985 --> 00:31:20.795
<00:31:18.985>It's <00:31:19.451>also <00:31:19.918>some, <00:31:20.385>yeah.

698
00:31:21.905 --> 00:31:24.355
<00:31:21.905>Cool. <00:31:22.080>What <00:31:22.254>would <00:31:22.430>you <00:31:22.605>consider, <00:31:22.780>uh, <00:31:22.955>what <00:31:23.129>would <00:31:23.305>you,

699
00:31:24.385 --> 00:31:26.555
<00:31:24.385>what <00:31:24.585>if <00:31:24.785>somebody <00:31:24.985>is <00:31:25.185>still <00:31:25.385>on <00:31:25.585>the <00:31:25.785>fence

700
00:31:26.575 --> 00:31:27.755
<00:31:26.575>of <00:31:26.840>thinking <00:31:27.106>about <00:31:27.371>like, <00:31:27.637>I,

701
00:31:27.755 --> 00:31:29.155
<00:31:27.755>should <00:31:27.935>I <00:31:28.115>go <00:31:28.295>to <00:31:28.475>the <00:31:28.655>Congress <00:31:28.835>or <00:31:29.014>not?

702
00:31:29.585 --> 00:31:31.915
<00:31:29.585>What <00:31:29.760>would <00:31:29.935>you <00:31:30.110>say <00:31:30.285>to <00:31:30.460>a <00:31:30.635>person <00:31:30.810>like <00:31:30.985>that?

703
00:31:31.975 --> 00:31:34.515
<00:31:31.975>What's <00:31:32.208>the <00:31:32.441>most <00:31:32.675>beneficial <00:31:32.908>thing <00:31:33.141>to <00:31:33.375>to,

704
00:31:34.695 --> 00:31:36.595
<00:31:34.695>to <00:31:34.870>take <00:31:35.044>the <00:31:35.220>plunge <00:31:35.395>and <00:31:35.570>actually <00:31:35.745>buy <00:31:35.919>a <00:31:36.095>ticket?

705
00:31:37.055 --> 00:31:38.055
<00:31:37.055>Why <00:31:37.505>would <00:31:37.955>you?

706
00:31:39.135 --> 00:31:40.145
<00:31:39.135>It's <00:31:39.362>to <00:31:39.589>meet <00:31:39.816>the <00:31:40.043>people.

707
00:31:40.895 --> 00:31:42.985
<00:31:40.895>It's <00:31:41.070>to <00:31:41.245>meet <00:31:41.420>the <00:31:41.595>people, <00:31:41.770>to <00:31:41.945>feel <00:31:42.120>the <00:31:42.295>experience,

708
00:31:42.985 --> 00:31:44.985
<00:31:42.985>to <00:31:43.185>feel <00:31:43.385>this <00:31:43.584>atmosphere, <00:31:43.784>to <00:31:43.985>feel <00:31:44.185>the <00:31:44.385>event.

709
00:31:45.255 --> 00:31:50.225
<00:31:45.255>It's <00:31:45.382>like, <00:31:45.509>I <00:31:45.636>don't <00:31:45.764>know, <00:31:45.891>you <00:31:46.018>can <00:31:46.145>love <00:31:46.273>some <00:31:46.400>band <00:31:46.527>in <00:31:46.655>music

710
00:31:50.965 --> 00:31:53.745
<00:31:50.965>and <00:31:51.105>have <00:31:51.245>LP <00:31:51.385>at <00:31:51.524>home <00:31:51.665>and <00:31:51.804>CD <00:31:51.945>or <00:31:52.084>whatever, <00:31:52.225>stream <00:31:52.365>it

711
00:31:53.885 --> 00:31:56.865
<00:31:53.885>and <00:31:54.025>you <00:31:54.165>like <00:31:54.305>it <00:31:54.445>and <00:31:54.585>you <00:31:54.725>have, <00:31:54.865>you <00:31:55.004>put <00:31:55.145>you <00:31:55.285>headphones

712
00:31:56.885 --> 00:31:58.425
<00:31:56.885>and <00:31:57.116>you <00:31:57.347>listen <00:31:57.578>to <00:31:57.809>music <00:31:58.040>and <00:31:58.271>dance.

713
00:31:58.525 --> 00:32:02.105
<00:31:58.525>But <00:31:58.665>once <00:31:58.805>you <00:31:58.945>are <00:31:59.085>in <00:31:59.225>a <00:31:59.365>concert, <00:31:59.505>live <00:31:59.645>in <00:31:59.785>the <00:31:59.925>front

714
00:32:02.125 --> 00:32:05.115
<00:32:02.125>of <00:32:02.405>the <00:32:02.685>stage, <00:32:02.965>it's <00:32:03.245>a <00:32:03.525>kind

715
00:32:05.115 --> 00:32:07.715
<00:32:05.115>of <00:32:05.465>experience <00:32:05.815>which <00:32:06.165>is <00:32:06.515>different.

716
00:32:08.105 --> 00:32:11.485
<00:32:08.105>It's <00:32:08.260>on <00:32:08.416>top. <00:32:08.571>And <00:32:08.727>this <00:32:08.882>is <00:32:09.038>why <00:32:09.193>I <00:32:09.349>say <00:32:09.505>always,

717
00:32:11.595 --> 00:32:14.525
<00:32:11.595>this <00:32:11.750>is <00:32:11.906>a <00:32:12.061>good <00:32:12.217>thing <00:32:12.372>to <00:32:12.528>meet <00:32:12.683>the <00:32:12.839>people <00:32:12.995>there,

718
00:32:15.435 --> 00:32:17.095
<00:32:15.435>to <00:32:15.610>meet <00:32:15.784>the <00:32:15.960>people <00:32:16.135>there, <00:32:16.310>to <00:32:16.485>talk <00:32:16.659>to <00:32:16.835>people,

719
00:32:17.115 --> 00:32:19.295
<00:32:17.115>to <00:32:17.270>exchange <00:32:17.426>your <00:32:17.581>experience, <00:32:17.737>to <00:32:17.892>take <00:32:18.048>a <00:32:18.203>drink <00:32:18.359>with <00:32:18.515>them.

720
00:32:19.765 --> 00:32:21.695
<00:32:19.765>Just <00:32:19.965>talk <00:32:20.165>to <00:32:20.365>them, <00:32:20.565>to <00:32:20.765>learn <00:32:20.965>from <00:32:21.165>them

721
00:32:22.735 --> 00:32:25.065
<00:32:22.735>and <00:32:23.201>teach <00:32:23.668>them <00:32:24.135>altogether.

722
00:32:25.765 --> 00:32:27.055
<00:32:25.765>Well, <00:32:26.055>thanks <00:32:26.345>very <00:32:26.635>much, <00:32:26.926>Damir.

723
00:32:27.055 --> 00:32:30.295
<00:32:27.055>This <00:32:27.195>was, <00:32:27.335>uh, <00:32:27.475>uh, <00:32:27.615>this <00:32:27.755>was <00:32:27.895>Tamid <00:32:28.035>Bridge <00:32:28.175>from <00:32:28.315>day, <00:32:28.455>uh,

724
00:32:30.355 --> 00:32:32.735
<00:32:30.355>and <00:32:30.530>he's <00:32:30.705>gonna <00:32:30.880>do <00:32:31.055>the <00:32:31.230>workshop <00:32:31.405>at <00:32:31.580>the <00:32:31.755>Congress.

725
00:32:32.765 --> 00:32:34.615
<00:32:32.765>Hopefully <00:32:32.920>a <00:32:33.076>lot <00:32:33.231>of <00:32:33.387>people <00:32:33.542>will <00:32:33.698>sign <00:32:33.853>up <00:32:34.009>for <00:32:34.165>it

726
00:32:34.675 --> 00:32:37.535
<00:32:34.675>and <00:32:34.830>then <00:32:34.986>later <00:32:35.141>on <00:32:35.297>bring <00:32:35.452>the <00:32:35.608>goodness <00:32:35.763>of <00:32:35.919>the <00:32:36.075>AI

727
00:32:37.595 --> 00:32:39.650
<00:32:37.595>to <00:32:37.828>the <00:32:38.061>enterprise <00:32:38.295>in <00:32:38.528>a <00:32:38.761>secure <00:32:38.995>manner.

728
00:32:39.985 --> 00:32:42.445
<00:32:39.985>And <00:32:40.140>actually <00:32:40.296>one <00:32:40.451>that <00:32:40.607>can <00:32:40.762>get <00:32:40.918>rolled <00:32:41.073>out <00:32:41.229>without <00:32:41.385>waiting

729
00:32:42.505 --> 00:32:44.365
<00:32:42.505>for <00:32:42.680>month <00:32:42.855>and <00:32:43.030>months <00:32:43.205>to <00:32:43.380>get <00:32:43.555>some <00:32:43.730>sign <00:32:43.905>off.

730
00:32:44.665 --> 00:32:46.285
<00:32:44.665>Any <00:32:44.865>last <00:32:45.065>words <00:32:45.264>you <00:32:45.465>got <00:32:45.665>for <00:32:45.865>our <00:32:46.065>audience?

731
00:32:46.315 --> 00:32:48.445
<00:32:46.315>Like <00:32:46.455>you <00:32:46.595>got <00:32:46.735>lots <00:32:46.875>of <00:32:47.015>people <00:32:47.155>to <00:32:47.295>listen <00:32:47.435>to <00:32:47.575>this <00:32:47.715>one.

732
00:32:48.735 --> 00:32:51.045
<00:32:48.735>Thank <00:32:48.890>you <00:32:49.046>for <00:32:49.201>having <00:32:49.357>me, <00:32:49.512>Chris. <00:32:49.668>See <00:32:49.823>you <00:32:49.979>in <00:32:50.135>Berlin.

733
00:32:51.545 --> 00:32:52.565
<00:32:51.545>See <00:32:51.851>you <00:32:52.157>then. <00:32:52.463>Bye-Bye.