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hackathon.

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in-depth

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the

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on-

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Yeah

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roughly.

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Mm-hmm.

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396
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397
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398
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399
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400
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401
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402
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403
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404
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405
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406
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407
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408
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409
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410
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411
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412
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413
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414
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415
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416
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417
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418
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419
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420
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421
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422
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423
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424
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425
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426
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427
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428
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429
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430
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431
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432
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433
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434
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435
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436
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437
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438
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439
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440
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441
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442
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443
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444
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Yeah

445
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446
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matter.

447
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448
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449
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450
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451
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452
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453
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454
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455
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456
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457
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458
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459
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460
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<00:25:07.100>there. <00:25:07.227>Because <00:25:07.354>the <00:25:07.481>cost <00:25:07.609>of <00:25:07.736>AI <00:25:07.863>is <00:25:07.990>there, <00:25:08.118>and <00:25:08.245>it's <00:25:08.372>just <00:25:08.500>backed

461
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<00:25:11.040>up <00:25:11.156>by <00:25:11.273>VC <00:25:11.389>money <00:25:11.506>at <00:25:11.623>the <00:25:11.740>moment. <00:25:11.856>We <00:25:11.973>have <00:25:12.090>not <00:25:12.206>figured <00:25:12.323>that <00:25:12.440>out.

462
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<00:25:14.820>It's <00:25:14.995>a <00:25:15.169>very, <00:25:15.345>very <00:25:15.520>expensive <00:25:15.695>thing <00:25:15.870>that <00:25:16.044>we <00:25:16.220>do.

463
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<00:25:16.650>I <00:25:16.777>read <00:25:16.904>a-- <00:25:17.031>Well, <00:25:17.159>let's <00:25:17.286>create <00:25:17.413>an <00:25:17.540>interesting <00:25:17.668>article <00:25:17.795>yesterday <00:25:17.922>where <00:25:18.050>someone

464
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<00:25:20.600>compared <00:25:20.833>Anthropic <00:25:21.066>and <00:25:21.300>Copilot <00:25:21.533>with <00:25:21.766>drug <00:25:22.000>dealers

465
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<00:25:24.440>pretty <00:25:24.770>much <00:25:25.100>and <00:25:25.430>said-

466
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Okay

467
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<00:25:26.280>... <00:25:26.373>"Look, <00:25:26.466>initially, <00:25:26.560>they <00:25:26.653>gave <00:25:26.746>you <00:25:26.840>a <00:25:26.933>lot <00:25:27.026>for <00:25:27.120>free. <00:25:27.213>They <00:25:27.306>want <00:25:27.399>to <00:25:27.493>get <00:25:27.586>you <00:25:27.680>hooked.

468
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<00:25:30.120>They <00:25:30.207>want <00:25:30.294>to <00:25:30.382>get <00:25:30.469>you <00:25:30.557>addicted." <00:25:30.645>And <00:25:30.732>then <00:25:30.820>they <00:25:30.907>say, <00:25:30.995>"Look, <00:25:31.082>now <00:25:31.169>you <00:25:31.257>have <00:25:31.344>to <00:25:31.432>pay <00:25:31.520>for

469
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<00:25:33.640>it." <00:25:33.747>Which <00:25:33.855>is <00:25:33.963>a <00:25:34.070>traditional <00:25:34.178>thing <00:25:34.286>many, <00:25:34.393>many <00:25:34.501>companies <00:25:34.609>did <00:25:34.716>in <00:25:34.824>the <00:25:34.932>past, <00:25:35.040>and,

470
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<00:25:37.960>yes, <00:25:38.160>it's <00:25:38.360>especially <00:25:38.560>common <00:25:38.760>in <00:25:38.960>drugs <00:25:39.160>and <00:25:39.360>whatever.

471
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<00:25:42.600>And <00:25:42.716>they're <00:25:42.833>kind <00:25:42.949>of <00:25:43.066>doing <00:25:43.183>the <00:25:43.300>same <00:25:43.416>thing. <00:25:43.533>They <00:25:43.649>gave <00:25:43.766>everything <00:25:43.883>for <00:25:44.000>free.

472
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<00:25:45.200>They <00:25:45.300>wanted <00:25:45.400>to <00:25:45.500>make <00:25:45.600>everything <00:25:45.700>addicted, <00:25:45.800>and <00:25:45.900>it <00:25:46.000>is <00:25:46.100>some <00:25:46.200>kind <00:25:46.300>of <00:25:46.400>addiction, <00:25:46.500>if <00:25:46.600>we're

473
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<00:25:49.090>honest, <00:25:49.290>and <00:25:49.490>now <00:25:49.689>they <00:25:49.889>charge <00:25:50.090>you <00:25:50.290>for <00:25:50.490>it.

474
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<00:25:51.500>But <00:25:51.655>that's <00:25:51.811>been <00:25:51.966>in <00:25:52.122>software <00:25:52.277>all <00:25:52.433>the <00:25:52.588>time <00:25:52.744>as <00:25:52.900>well.

475
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<00:25:54.160>That's <00:25:54.335>why <00:25:54.510>you <00:25:54.685>have <00:25:54.860>student <00:25:55.035>licenses <00:25:55.210>for <00:25:55.385>everything, <00:25:55.560>and

476
00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:03.120
<00:25:59.480>there <00:25:59.607>was <00:25:59.734>just <00:25:59.861>at <00:25:59.989>Microsoft, <00:26:00.116>somebody <00:26:00.243>said <00:26:00.370>that <00:26:00.498>they <00:26:00.625>want <00:26:00.752>people <00:26:00.880>get

477
00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:06.720
<00:26:03.160>addicted <00:26:03.260>to <00:26:03.360>their <00:26:03.460>bot <00:26:03.560>or <00:26:03.660>something, <00:26:03.760>and <00:26:03.860>now <00:26:03.960>they're <00:26:04.060>trying <00:26:04.160>to <00:26:04.260>find <00:26:04.360>the <00:26:04.460>person <00:26:04.560>who

478
00:26:06.820 --> 00:26:10.700
<00:26:06.820>said <00:26:06.975>that <00:26:07.131>because <00:26:07.286>it <00:26:07.442>feels <00:26:07.597>like <00:26:07.753>a <00:26:07.908>really <00:26:08.064>bad <00:26:08.220>messaging

479
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<00:26:10.800>out <00:26:10.893>there. <00:26:10.986>So <00:26:11.080>I <00:26:11.173>don't <00:26:11.266>know. <00:26:11.360>But <00:26:11.453>yeah, <00:26:11.546>the <00:26:11.639>first <00:26:11.733>fix <00:26:11.826>is <00:26:11.919>free <00:26:12.013>is <00:26:12.106>a <00:26:12.200>very

480
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<00:26:14.620>common <00:26:15.320>thing, <00:26:16.020>and

481
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<00:26:17.279>to <00:26:17.479>lock <00:26:17.679>you <00:26:17.879>into <00:26:18.079>the <00:26:18.279>system <00:26:18.479>that <00:26:18.679>way.

482
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<00:26:20.360>Look <00:26:20.560>at <00:26:20.760>Gmail <00:26:20.959>and <00:26:21.159>look <00:26:21.360>at <00:26:21.560>Google <00:26:21.760>Photos.

483
00:26:23.780 --> 00:26:27.440
<00:26:23.780>I <00:26:23.920>just <00:26:24.060>upgraded <00:26:24.200>my <00:26:24.340>partner's <00:26:24.480>Google <00:26:24.620>Photos <00:26:24.760>because <00:26:24.899>she <00:26:25.040>used <00:26:25.180>the

484
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<00:26:27.480>15 <00:26:27.635>gig. <00:26:27.791>But <00:26:27.946>using <00:26:28.102>up <00:26:28.257>15 <00:26:28.413>gig <00:26:28.568>takes <00:26:28.724>a <00:26:28.880>while

485
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.

486
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Yeah.

487
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<00:26:32.940>This <00:26:33.080>is <00:26:33.220>also <00:26:33.360>interesting. <00:26:33.500>Do <00:26:33.640>you <00:26:33.780>have <00:26:33.920>a <00:26:34.060>Ollama <00:26:34.200>model <00:26:34.340>tester?

488
00:26:36.760 --> 00:26:40.360
<00:26:36.760>So <00:26:36.876>if <00:26:36.993>you <00:26:37.110>have <00:26:37.226>Ollama <00:26:37.343>running <00:26:37.460>on <00:26:37.576>your <00:26:37.693>machine <00:26:37.810>like <00:26:37.926>I <00:26:38.043>do <00:26:38.160>here,

489
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<00:26:40.440>and <00:26:40.640>you <00:26:40.840>actually <00:26:41.040>have <00:26:41.240>different <00:26:41.440>models <00:26:41.640>running, <00:26:41.840>this

490
00:26:44.280 --> 00:26:48.180
<00:26:44.280>one <00:26:44.407>allows <00:26:44.534>you <00:26:44.661>to <00:26:44.789>actually <00:26:44.916>take <00:26:45.043>them <00:26:45.170>through <00:26:45.298>their <00:26:45.425>paces <00:26:45.552>and <00:26:45.680>say,

491
00:26:48.260 --> 00:26:51.680
<00:26:48.260>like, <00:26:48.367>"Okay, <00:26:48.475>here's <00:26:48.583>the <00:26:48.690>one <00:26:48.798>that <00:26:48.906>gives <00:26:49.013>you <00:26:49.121>the <00:26:49.229>most <00:26:49.336>in <00:26:49.444>terms <00:26:49.552>of <00:26:49.660>speed.

492
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<00:26:51.720>Here's <00:26:51.820>the <00:26:51.920>one <00:26:52.020>that <00:26:52.120>gives <00:26:52.220>you <00:26:52.320>the <00:26:52.420>most <00:26:52.520>in <00:26:52.620>terms <00:26:52.720>of <00:26:52.820>data, <00:26:52.920>of <00:26:53.020>memory <00:26:53.120>consumption."

493
00:26:56.120 --> 00:27:00.080
<00:26:56.120>So <00:26:56.219>it's <00:26:56.320>an <00:26:56.419>interesting <00:26:56.520>thing <00:26:56.620>to <00:26:56.719>optimize <00:26:56.820>your <00:26:56.919>local <00:26:57.020>workflow <00:26:57.120>as <00:26:57.219>well <00:26:57.320>if <00:26:57.419>you <00:26:57.520>are

494
00:27:01.020 --> 00:27:04.940
<00:27:01.020>so <00:27:01.107>inclined <00:27:01.195>to <00:27:01.282>do <00:27:01.370>that. <00:27:01.457>And <00:27:01.545>yeah, <00:27:01.632>these <00:27:01.720>are <00:27:01.807>all <00:27:01.895>the <00:27:01.982>tips <00:27:02.070>and <00:27:02.157>tricks <00:27:02.245>that <00:27:02.332>I <00:27:02.420>found

495
00:27:05.060 --> 00:27:08.940
<00:27:05.060>and <00:27:05.153>I <00:27:05.246>thought <00:27:05.340>we're <00:27:05.433>going <00:27:05.526>for. <00:27:05.620>And <00:27:05.713>now <00:27:05.806>I <00:27:05.899>think <00:27:05.993>it's <00:27:06.086>time <00:27:06.179>to <00:27:06.273>actually <00:27:06.366>take <00:27:06.460>a

496
00:27:08.980 --> 00:27:12.640
<00:27:08.980>look <00:27:09.107>at <00:27:09.234>the <00:27:09.361>madness <00:27:09.489>that <00:27:09.616>is <00:27:09.743>going <00:27:09.870>around <00:27:09.998>here <00:27:10.125>and <00:27:10.252>play <00:27:10.380>a

497
00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:15.960
<00:27:12.720>round <00:27:12.847>of <00:27:12.974>fake <00:27:13.101>or <00:27:13.229>news <00:27:13.356>with <00:27:13.483>you. <00:27:13.610>So <00:27:13.738>I <00:27:13.865>brought <00:27:13.992>headlines <00:27:14.120>together.

498
00:27:16.280 --> 00:27:19.040
<00:27:16.280>Hopefully, <00:27:16.420>you're <00:27:16.560>going <00:27:16.700>to <00:27:16.840>tell <00:27:16.980>me <00:27:17.120>if <00:27:17.260>they're <00:27:17.399>real <00:27:17.540>or <00:27:17.680>not.

499
00:27:25.500 --> 00:27:26.980
<00:27:25.500>There <00:27:25.833>we <00:27:26.166>go. <00:27:26.499>Let's <00:27:26.832>start.

500
00:27:27.980 --> 00:27:31.560
<00:27:27.980>Parents <00:27:28.107>say <00:27:28.234>ChatGPT <00:27:28.361>got <00:27:28.489>their <00:27:28.616>son <00:27:28.743>killed <00:27:28.870>with <00:27:28.998>bad <00:27:29.125>advice <00:27:29.252>on <00:27:29.380>party

501
00:27:31.620 --> 00:27:32.000
drugs.

502
00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:35.760
<00:27:32.920>Unfortunately, <00:27:33.075>that <00:27:33.231>just <00:27:33.386>instantly <00:27:33.542>feels <00:27:33.697>real, <00:27:33.853>doesn't <00:27:34.008>it? <00:27:34.164>Just <00:27:34.320>terrible.

503
00:27:35.800 --> 00:27:36.800
<00:27:35.800>Yeah, <00:27:36.100>it <00:27:36.399>does. <00:27:36.700>Yeah.

504
00:27:37.300 --> 00:27:37.730
<00:27:37.300>Oh, <00:27:37.377>please <00:27:37.454>tell <00:27:37.532>me <00:27:37.609>it's <00:27:37.687>not.

505
00:27:37.780 --> 00:27:41.620
<00:27:37.780>And <00:27:37.935>it's <00:27:38.091>news. <00:27:38.246>Meta's <00:27:38.402>latest <00:27:38.557>VR <00:27:38.713>headset <00:27:38.868>requires <00:27:39.024>retinal <00:27:39.180>scan

506
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:44.600
<00:27:41.680>every <00:27:41.913>30 <00:27:42.146>seconds <00:27:42.380>to <00:27:42.613>prevent <00:27:42.846>unauthorized <00:27:43.080>access.

507
00:27:45.120 --> 00:27:47.960
<00:27:45.120>I <00:27:45.236>wish <00:27:45.353>that <00:27:45.469>was <00:27:45.586>true, <00:27:45.703>but <00:27:45.820>I <00:27:45.936>don't <00:27:46.053>think <00:27:46.169>so. <00:27:46.286>I <00:27:46.403>like <00:27:46.520>that.

508
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:51.720
<00:27:48.480>It's <00:27:48.713>fake. <00:27:48.946>Google <00:27:49.180>taps <00:27:49.413>SpaceX <00:27:49.646>for <00:27:49.880>$920

509
00:27:51.760 --> 00:27:55.100
<00:27:51.760>million <00:27:52.040>per <00:27:52.320>month <00:27:52.600>AI <00:27:52.879>compute <00:27:53.160>deal.

510
00:27:55.180 --> 00:27:58.030
<00:27:55.180>At <00:27:55.262>this <00:27:55.344>stage, <00:27:55.427>I <00:27:55.509>don't <00:27:55.591>even <00:27:55.674>know <00:27:55.756>if <00:27:55.838>that <00:27:55.921>number <00:27:56.003>seems <00:27:56.085>too <00:27:56.168>high <00:27:56.250>or <00:27:56.332>too <00:27:56.415>low, <00:27:56.497>but <00:27:56.580>I'm

511
00:27:58.040 --> 00:28:00.460
<00:27:58.040>going <00:27:58.147>to <00:27:58.255>say <00:27:58.363>that <00:27:58.470>feels <00:27:58.578>like <00:27:58.686>a <00:27:58.793>real <00:27:58.901>headline. <00:27:59.009>What <00:27:59.116>do <00:27:59.224>you <00:27:59.332>think, <00:27:59.440>Tim?

512
00:28:00.500 --> 00:28:03.520
<00:28:00.500>There <00:28:00.607>is <00:28:00.715>the <00:28:00.823>deal, <00:28:00.930>but <00:28:01.038>I <00:28:01.146>don't <00:28:01.253>know <00:28:01.361>if <00:28:01.469>the <00:28:01.576>number <00:28:01.684>is <00:28:01.792>correct. <00:28:01.900>So...

513
00:28:03.940 --> 00:28:07.600
<00:28:03.940>It <00:28:04.173>is <00:28:04.406>real. <00:28:04.640>It's <00:28:04.873>$920 <00:28:05.106>million. <00:28:05.340>What?

514
00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:11.680
<00:28:07.960>Claude <00:28:08.193>AI <00:28:08.426>helps <00:28:08.660>uncover <00:28:08.893>forgotten <00:28:09.126>Bitcoin <00:28:09.360>fortune

515
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:14.000
<00:28:11.720>worth <00:28:12.000>400K <00:28:12.280>hidden <00:28:12.560>for <00:28:12.840>11 <00:28:13.120>years.

516
00:28:16.740 --> 00:28:17.540
<00:28:16.740>I'm <00:28:16.980>going <00:28:17.220>to <00:28:17.460>say...

517
00:28:17.940 --> 00:28:21.540
<00:28:17.940>I <00:28:18.095>think <00:28:18.251>I <00:28:18.406>remember <00:28:18.562>I've <00:28:18.717>read <00:28:18.873>something <00:28:19.028>like <00:28:19.184>that, <00:28:19.340>yes.

518
00:28:21.800 --> 00:28:24.659
<00:28:21.800>Some <00:28:21.927>guy <00:28:22.054>lost <00:28:22.181>his <00:28:22.309>password <00:28:22.436>and <00:28:22.563>Claude <00:28:22.690>was <00:28:22.818>able <00:28:22.945>to <00:28:23.072>hack <00:28:23.200>it.

519
00:28:24.979 --> 00:28:26.620
<00:28:24.979>Hmm. <00:28:25.445>I'm <00:28:25.912>not <00:28:26.379>convinced.

520
00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:30.940
<00:28:27.000>It <00:28:27.155>is <00:28:27.311>news. <00:28:27.466>South <00:28:27.622>Korean <00:28:27.777>police <00:28:27.933>lose <00:28:28.088>seized <00:28:28.244>crypto <00:28:28.400>by

521
00:28:30.980 --> 00:28:32.440
<00:28:30.980>posting <00:28:31.637>password <00:28:32.294>online.

522
00:28:33.540 --> 00:28:34.720
<00:28:33.540>I <00:28:33.752>could <00:28:33.964>see <00:28:34.177>that <00:28:34.389>happening. <00:28:34.602>Yeah.

523
00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:36.230
Definitely.

524
00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:38.260
Incompetence.

525
00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:40.940
<00:28:40.200>Yep. <00:28:40.533>It's <00:28:40.866>news.

526
00:28:41.620 --> 00:28:41.700
Yeah.

527
00:28:42.460 --> 00:28:46.000
<00:28:42.460>Empty <00:28:42.660>Waymo <00:28:42.860>cars <00:28:43.060>are <00:28:43.260>converging <00:28:43.460>on <00:28:43.660>one <00:28:43.860>Atlanta

528
00:28:46.080 --> 00:28:48.940
<00:28:46.080>cul-de-sac. <00:28:46.360>No <00:28:46.639>one <00:28:46.919>can <00:28:47.199>explain <00:28:47.480>why.

529
00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:52.120
<00:28:49.000>Waymo <00:28:49.107>again. <00:28:49.215>They're <00:28:49.323>here <00:28:49.430>every <00:28:49.538>week, <00:28:49.646>aren't <00:28:49.753>they? <00:28:49.861>Yes, <00:28:49.969>that <00:28:50.076>has <00:28:50.184>to <00:28:50.292>be <00:28:50.400>true.

530
00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:53.450
<00:28:52.680>It <00:28:53.026>had. <00:28:53.373>Yeah.

531
00:28:54.560 --> 00:28:56.020
<00:28:54.560>Definitely <00:28:55.216>did <00:28:55.874>happen.

532
00:28:56.040 --> 00:28:59.980
<00:28:56.040>Samsung <00:28:56.240>Galaxy <00:28:56.440>S26 <00:28:56.639>AI <00:28:56.840>enrollment <00:28:57.040>found <00:28:57.240>buried <00:28:57.440>in

533
00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:04.020
<00:29:00.200>47-page <00:29:00.400>terms <00:29:00.600>update. <00:29:00.800>Users <00:29:01.000>report <00:29:01.200>automatic <00:29:01.400>opt-in <00:29:01.600>to

534
00:29:04.030 --> 00:29:04.680
<00:29:04.030>data <00:29:04.615>sharing.

535
00:29:05.020 --> 00:29:08.020
<00:29:05.020>I <00:29:05.127>haven't <00:29:05.235>heard <00:29:05.343>about <00:29:05.450>it, <00:29:05.558>but <00:29:05.666>it <00:29:05.773>feels <00:29:05.881>like <00:29:05.989>it <00:29:06.096>could <00:29:06.204>be <00:29:06.312>real, <00:29:06.420>yeah.

536
00:29:08.540 --> 00:29:10.120
<00:29:08.540>S26 <00:29:09.240>already. <00:29:09.940>Wow.

537
00:29:10.530 --> 00:29:11.620
<00:29:10.530>No, <00:29:10.775>I <00:29:11.020>don't <00:29:11.265>think <00:29:11.511>so.

538
00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:15.240
<00:29:11.880>Fake. <00:29:12.160>AI <00:29:12.440>meeting <00:29:12.720>summaries <00:29:13.000>found <00:29:13.280>inserting

539
00:29:15.260 --> 00:29:18.420
<00:29:15.260>hallucinated <00:29:15.493>action <00:29:15.726>items <00:29:15.960>directly <00:29:16.193>into <00:29:16.426>corporate <00:29:16.660>Jira

540
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:19.660
backlogs.

541
00:29:20.060 --> 00:29:21.440
<00:29:20.060>100%. <00:29:20.681>Yeah, <00:29:21.302>true.

542
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:23.400
1,000%.

543
00:29:23.840 --> 00:29:23.850
Yeah.

544
00:29:24.500 --> 00:29:25.920
<00:29:24.500>That's <00:29:24.926>definitely <00:29:25.352>happened <00:29:25.778>somewhere.

545
00:29:25.930 --> 00:29:26.040
<00:29:25.930>It's <00:29:26.029>fake.

546
00:29:26.260 --> 00:29:26.940
<00:29:26.260>Oh, <00:29:26.872>no.

547
00:29:29.049 --> 00:29:31.030
<00:29:29.049>I <00:29:29.176>knew <00:29:29.303>it. <00:29:29.430>I <00:29:29.558>knew <00:29:29.685>it. <00:29:29.812>As <00:29:29.939>soon <00:29:30.067>as <00:29:30.194>you <00:29:30.321>said <00:29:30.449>1,000-

548
00:29:31.100 --> 00:29:34.640
<00:29:31.100>Well, <00:29:31.300>the <00:29:31.500>answer <00:29:31.699>is <00:29:31.899>hallucinated, <00:29:32.100>so <00:29:32.300>technically, <00:29:32.500>it's

549
00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:35.260
news.

550
00:29:35.940 --> 00:29:36.600
<00:29:35.940>No, <00:29:36.138>there <00:29:36.336>you <00:29:36.533>go.

551
00:29:37.560 --> 00:29:41.540
<00:29:37.560>UK <00:29:37.760>Government <00:29:37.960>accidentally <00:29:38.159>publishes <00:29:38.360>classified <00:29:38.560>threat <00:29:38.760>briefing <00:29:38.960>after

552
00:29:41.560 --> 00:29:44.880
<00:29:41.560>civil <00:29:41.760>servant <00:29:41.960>used <00:29:42.159>AI <00:29:42.360>summarizer <00:29:42.560>with <00:29:42.760>auto-publish <00:29:42.960>enabled.

553
00:29:45.820 --> 00:29:48.630
<00:29:45.820>Yeah, <00:29:46.020>I <00:29:46.220>can <00:29:46.419>definitely <00:29:46.620>see <00:29:46.820>that. <00:29:47.020>Yeah, <00:29:47.220>definitely.

554
00:29:48.630 --> 00:29:49.280
<00:29:48.630>That <00:29:48.922>kind <00:29:49.215>of

555
00:29:50.420 --> 00:29:52.000
<00:29:50.420>sounds <00:29:50.595>too <00:29:50.770>good <00:29:50.945>to <00:29:51.120>be <00:29:51.295>true, <00:29:51.470>to <00:29:51.645>be <00:29:51.820>honest.

556
00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:52.740
Yeah.

557
00:29:53.460 --> 00:29:53.920
<00:29:53.460>It's <00:29:53.874>fake.

558
00:29:55.340 --> 00:29:55.350
Ah.

559
00:29:55.360 --> 00:29:57.080
<00:29:55.360>You <00:29:56.060>could've, <00:29:56.760>though.

560
00:29:57.140 --> 00:30:00.860
<00:29:57.140>How <00:29:57.280>sheep <00:29:57.420>and <00:29:57.560>solar <00:29:57.700>power <00:29:57.840>work <00:29:57.980>together <00:29:58.120>at <00:29:58.260>the <00:29:58.400>Volkswagen <00:29:58.540>Chattanooga

561
00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:01.480
factory.

562
00:30:02.820 --> 00:30:03.960
<00:30:02.820>Yeah, <00:30:03.162>that <00:30:03.504>feels <00:30:03.846>real.

563
00:30:05.300 --> 00:30:06.300
<00:30:05.300>It <00:30:05.450>tips <00:30:05.600>with <00:30:05.750>me <00:30:05.899>on <00:30:06.050>that, <00:30:06.200>yeah.

564
00:30:06.360 --> 00:30:10.160
<00:30:06.360>It's <00:30:06.459>a <00:30:06.560>real <00:30:06.659>story <00:30:06.760>as <00:30:06.860>well. <00:30:06.959>They <00:30:07.060>also <00:30:07.159>had <00:30:07.260>another <00:30:07.360>story <00:30:07.459>from <00:30:07.560>Microsoft <00:30:07.659>with <00:30:07.760>another

565
00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:13.500
<00:30:10.240>solar <00:30:10.347>park <00:30:10.455>where <00:30:10.563>they <00:30:10.670>had <00:30:10.778>a <00:30:10.886>donkey <00:30:10.993>protecting <00:30:11.101>it. <00:30:11.209>That <00:30:11.316>was <00:30:11.424>all <00:30:11.532>cute <00:30:11.640>news.

566
00:30:14.056 --> 00:30:16.516
<00:30:14.056>Probably. <00:30:14.231>Wherever <00:30:14.406>they <00:30:14.581>can <00:30:14.756>put <00:30:14.931>them <00:30:15.106>at <00:30:15.281>the <00:30:15.456>moment.

567
00:30:16.576 --> 00:30:19.816
<00:30:16.576>Yeah. <00:30:16.751>They <00:30:16.926>put <00:30:17.101>them <00:30:17.276>everywhere, <00:30:17.451>like <00:30:17.626>in <00:30:17.801>caves, <00:30:17.976>underwater.

568
00:30:20.536 --> 00:30:22.496
<00:30:20.536>Yeah. <00:30:20.711>It's <00:30:20.886>on <00:30:21.061>the <00:30:21.236>moon <00:30:21.411>next, <00:30:21.586>so <00:30:21.761>yeah, <00:30:21.936>attempt.

569
00:30:23.916 --> 00:30:24.036
Yeah.

570
00:30:24.126 --> 00:30:27.816
<00:30:24.126>Yep. <00:30:24.281>It's <00:30:24.437>news. <00:30:24.592>Adobe <00:30:24.748>patches <00:30:24.903>critical <00:30:25.059>bug <00:30:25.214>where <00:30:25.370>Photoshop's <00:30:25.526>AI

571
00:30:27.896 --> 00:30:30.216
<00:30:27.896>filled <00:30:28.245>images <00:30:28.596>with <00:30:28.946>competitor <00:30:29.296>logos.

572
00:30:31.396 --> 00:30:34.336
<00:30:31.396>I <00:30:31.512>hope <00:30:31.629>that's <00:30:31.745>true <00:30:31.862>because <00:30:31.979>I've <00:30:32.096>seen <00:30:32.212>some <00:30:32.329>amazing <00:30:32.446>things <00:30:32.562>from <00:30:32.679>Photoshop's <00:30:32.796>AI.

573
00:30:34.516 --> 00:30:35.456
<00:30:34.516>Yeah, <00:30:34.727>I <00:30:34.939>hope <00:30:35.150>that's <00:30:35.361>true.

574
00:30:36.416 --> 00:30:37.156
<00:30:36.416>See <00:30:36.582>that <00:30:36.749>this <00:30:36.915>could <00:30:37.081>be

575
00:30:38.576 --> 00:30:39.416
fake.

576
00:30:39.496 --> 00:30:40.166
<00:30:39.496>Just <00:30:40.099>competitor-

577
00:30:40.236 --> 00:30:43.316
<00:30:40.236>It's <00:30:40.436>fake <00:30:40.636>that <00:30:40.836>they <00:30:41.036>didn't <00:30:41.236>fix <00:30:41.436>it <00:30:41.636>yet.

578
00:30:43.916 --> 00:30:47.036
<00:30:43.916>Yeah, <00:30:44.056>probably. <00:30:44.196>No, <00:30:44.336>they <00:30:44.476>didn't <00:30:44.616>put <00:30:44.755>any <00:30:44.896>other <00:30:45.035>logos <00:30:45.176>in <00:30:45.316>there.

579
00:30:47.096 --> 00:30:50.976
<00:30:47.096>That <00:30:47.223>was <00:30:47.350>the <00:30:47.477>other <00:30:47.605>problem. <00:30:47.732>But <00:30:47.859>yeah, <00:30:47.986>I <00:30:48.114>found <00:30:48.241>that <00:30:48.368>juxtaposition <00:30:48.496>that

580
00:30:51.336 --> 00:30:53.556
<00:30:51.336>actually <00:30:51.686>somebody <00:30:52.036>got <00:30:52.386>$400,000 <00:30:52.736>from

581
00:30:54.376 --> 00:30:58.276
<00:30:54.376>crypto <00:30:54.551>back <00:30:54.726>and <00:30:54.901>that <00:30:55.076>the <00:30:55.251>police <00:30:55.426>in <00:30:55.601>Korea <00:30:55.776>loses

582
00:30:58.286 --> 00:31:02.256
<00:30:58.286>seized <00:30:58.426>crypto <00:30:58.566>by <00:30:58.706>posting <00:30:58.846>the <00:30:58.986>password <00:30:59.126>online <00:30:59.266>in <00:30:59.406>the <00:30:59.546>same <00:30:59.686>week

583
00:31:02.356 --> 00:31:04.426
<00:31:02.356>was <00:31:02.589>just <00:31:02.822>fun. <00:31:03.056>So <00:31:03.289>bizarre <00:31:03.522>what's <00:31:03.756>happening.

584
00:31:04.496 --> 00:31:07.336
<00:31:04.496>Yeah. <00:31:04.696>It <00:31:04.896>feels <00:31:05.096>like <00:31:05.296>the <00:31:05.496>cycle, <00:31:05.696>doesn't <00:31:05.896>it?

585
00:31:07.396 --> 00:31:09.596
<00:31:07.396>Like <00:31:07.571>they're <00:31:07.745>related, <00:31:07.921>yeah. <00:31:08.096>Like <00:31:08.271>it's <00:31:08.446>meant <00:31:08.620>to <00:31:08.796>happen.

586
00:31:11.116 --> 00:31:11.636
<00:31:11.116>Yin <00:31:11.350>and <00:31:11.584>yang.

587
00:31:12.236 --> 00:31:14.916
<00:31:12.236>So <00:31:12.436>that <00:31:12.636>was <00:31:12.836>faker <00:31:13.036>news <00:31:13.236>for <00:31:13.436>today. <00:31:13.636>So,

588
00:31:15.816 --> 00:31:17.596
<00:31:15.816>let's <00:31:16.049>go <00:31:16.282>to <00:31:16.516>you, <00:31:16.749>Tim. <00:31:16.982>So <00:31:17.216>you

589
00:31:18.576 --> 00:31:21.816
<00:31:18.576>had <00:31:18.683>some <00:31:18.791>time <00:31:18.899>on <00:31:19.006>your <00:31:19.114>hands <00:31:19.222>lately, <00:31:19.329>and <00:31:19.437>you <00:31:19.545>played <00:31:19.652>with <00:31:19.760>a <00:31:19.868>few <00:31:19.976>things.

590
00:31:22.016 --> 00:31:25.336
<00:31:22.016>And, <00:31:22.132>what <00:31:22.249>is <00:31:22.366>Smoover <00:31:22.482>and <00:31:22.599>what <00:31:22.716>do <00:31:22.832>you <00:31:22.949>want <00:31:23.066>to <00:31:23.182>do <00:31:23.299>with <00:31:23.416>that?

591
00:31:25.596 --> 00:31:28.746
<00:31:25.596>Really <00:31:25.751>just <00:31:25.907>the <00:31:26.062>TLDR <00:31:26.218>version, <00:31:26.373>Smoover <00:31:26.529>is <00:31:26.684>an <00:31:26.840>index <00:31:26.996>around

592
00:31:28.776 --> 00:31:32.196
<00:31:28.776>companies <00:31:29.009>who <00:31:29.242>are <00:31:29.476>active <00:31:29.709>in <00:31:29.942>developer <00:31:30.176>relations.

593
00:31:32.236 --> 00:31:32.666
<00:31:32.236>If <00:31:32.429>you <00:31:32.623>have

594
00:31:33.956 --> 00:31:37.796
<00:31:33.956>GitHub, <00:31:34.189>some <00:31:34.422>NPM, <00:31:34.656>whatever <00:31:34.889>packages, <00:31:35.122>if <00:31:35.356>you

595
00:31:37.816 --> 00:31:40.136
<00:31:37.816>have <00:31:37.943>a <00:31:38.070>community, <00:31:38.197>maybe <00:31:38.325>if <00:31:38.452>you <00:31:38.579>run <00:31:38.706>a <00:31:38.834>blog, <00:31:38.961>if <00:31:39.088>you <00:31:39.216>run

596
00:31:41.276 --> 00:31:43.816
<00:31:41.276>YouTube <00:31:41.403>channels, <00:31:41.530>we <00:31:41.657>can <00:31:41.785>put <00:31:41.912>all <00:31:42.039>of <00:31:42.166>that <00:31:42.294>together <00:31:42.421>in <00:31:42.548>an <00:31:42.676>index.

597
00:31:44.896 --> 00:31:48.576
<00:31:44.896>And <00:31:45.023>the <00:31:45.150>main <00:31:45.277>reason <00:31:45.405>I'm <00:31:45.532>doing <00:31:45.659>that <00:31:45.786>is <00:31:45.914>that <00:31:46.041>in <00:31:46.168>the <00:31:46.296>past,

598
00:31:49.256 --> 00:31:52.256
<00:31:49.256>less <00:31:49.456>than <00:31:49.656>anything, <00:31:49.856>developer <00:31:50.056>relations <00:31:50.256>is <00:31:50.456>not <00:31:50.656>comparable.

599
00:31:52.476 --> 00:31:55.736
<00:31:52.476>If <00:31:52.576>you're <00:31:52.676>looking <00:31:52.776>at <00:31:52.876>two <00:31:52.976>different <00:31:53.076>companies, <00:31:53.176>you <00:31:53.276>can <00:31:53.376>say, <00:31:53.476>"Oh, <00:31:53.576>look, <00:31:53.676>they <00:31:53.776>do <00:31:53.876>a

600
00:31:55.776 --> 00:31:57.356
<00:31:55.776>little <00:31:55.931>bit <00:31:56.087>of <00:31:56.242>GitHub. <00:31:56.398>They <00:31:56.553>do <00:31:56.709>a <00:31:56.864>little <00:31:57.020>bit <00:31:57.176>there.

601
00:31:57.416 --> 00:32:00.916
<00:31:57.416>They <00:31:57.515>do <00:31:57.616>a <00:31:57.716>little <00:31:57.816>bit <00:31:57.916>there." <00:31:58.015>But <00:31:58.116>you <00:31:58.216>have <00:31:58.316>no <00:31:58.416>means <00:31:58.515>to <00:31:58.616>actually <00:31:58.716>compare <00:31:58.816>that.

602
00:32:01.776 --> 00:32:05.736
<00:32:01.776>There's <00:32:01.916>no <00:32:02.056>numeric <00:32:02.196>value, <00:32:02.336>there's <00:32:02.476>no <00:32:02.616>search <00:32:02.756>and <00:32:02.896>then <00:32:03.036>optimization <00:32:03.176>you

603
00:32:05.776 --> 00:32:09.126
<00:32:05.776>can <00:32:05.883>compare <00:32:05.991>in <00:32:06.099>some <00:32:06.206>way. <00:32:06.314>You <00:32:06.422>can <00:32:06.529>compare <00:32:06.637>two <00:32:06.745>companies, <00:32:06.852>you <00:32:06.960>can <00:32:07.068>compare <00:32:07.176>the

604
00:32:09.196 --> 00:32:11.796
<00:32:09.196>traffic, <00:32:09.370>and <00:32:09.545>you <00:32:09.721>have <00:32:09.896>an <00:32:10.071>easy <00:32:10.245>time <00:32:10.420>comparing <00:32:10.596>things.

605
00:32:11.836 --> 00:32:15.756
<00:32:11.836>But <00:32:11.963>that <00:32:12.090>never <00:32:12.217>worked <00:32:12.345>for <00:32:12.472>dev <00:32:12.599>rel <00:32:12.726>because <00:32:12.854>a <00:32:12.981>huge <00:32:13.108>part <00:32:13.236>of

606
00:32:15.796 --> 00:32:16.576
<00:32:15.796>that <00:32:16.147>is <00:32:16.498>also

607
00:32:17.496 --> 00:32:19.356
<00:32:17.496>narrative <00:32:18.196>and <00:32:18.896>quality.

608
00:32:20.416 --> 00:32:23.696
<00:32:20.416>One <00:32:20.591>company <00:32:20.765>might <00:32:20.941>have <00:32:21.116>5,000 <00:32:21.291>docs, <00:32:21.466>but <00:32:21.640>they're <00:32:21.816>actually

609
00:32:24.356 --> 00:32:27.956
<00:32:24.356>bad <00:32:24.443>in <00:32:24.531>that <00:32:24.618>sense. <00:32:24.706>The <00:32:24.793>other <00:32:24.881>company <00:32:24.968>only <00:32:25.056>has <00:32:25.143>10 <00:32:25.231>docs, <00:32:25.318>but <00:32:25.406>they <00:32:25.493>are <00:32:25.581>the <00:32:25.668>best <00:32:25.756>docs

610
00:32:27.996 --> 00:32:28.536
<00:32:27.996>you <00:32:28.239>can <00:32:28.482>write.

611
00:32:29.596 --> 00:32:33.236
<00:32:29.596>And <00:32:29.736>now <00:32:29.876>I'm <00:32:30.016>trying <00:32:30.156>to <00:32:30.296>put <00:32:30.436>all <00:32:30.576>of <00:32:30.716>that <00:32:30.856>in <00:32:30.996>relation

612
00:32:34.236 --> 00:32:38.116
<00:32:34.236>to <00:32:34.352>actually <00:32:34.469>how <00:32:34.586>companies <00:32:34.702>get <00:32:34.819>more <00:32:34.936>visibility <00:32:35.052>in <00:32:35.169>what <00:32:35.286>they're <00:32:35.402>actually <00:32:35.519>doing <00:32:35.636>and

613
00:32:38.156 --> 00:32:42.136
<00:32:38.156>being <00:32:38.283>able <00:32:38.410>to <00:32:38.537>compare <00:32:38.665>them <00:32:38.792>with <00:32:38.919>competitors <00:32:39.046>and <00:32:39.174>also <00:32:39.301>maybe <00:32:39.428>have <00:32:39.556>some

614
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<00:32:42.216>numbers <00:32:42.332>for <00:32:42.449>their <00:32:42.565>higher-ups <00:32:42.682>to <00:32:42.799>show, <00:32:42.916>look, <00:32:43.032>we <00:32:43.149>improved <00:32:43.265>on <00:32:43.382>that <00:32:43.499>number, <00:32:43.616>whatever.

615
00:32:46.336 --> 00:32:50.196
<00:32:46.336>Feels <00:32:46.443>a <00:32:46.551>bit <00:32:46.659>like <00:32:46.766>CloudScore <00:32:46.874>used <00:32:46.982>to <00:32:47.089>be <00:32:47.197>for <00:32:47.305>social <00:32:47.412>media, <00:32:47.520>where <00:32:47.628>people <00:32:47.736>would

616
00:32:50.416 --> 00:32:54.316
<00:32:50.416>basically <00:32:50.532>follow <00:32:50.649>you <00:32:50.765>on <00:32:50.882>all <00:32:50.999>your <00:32:51.116>different <00:32:51.232>platforms <00:32:51.349>and <00:32:51.466>showed <00:32:51.582>you <00:32:51.699>what <00:32:51.816>your

617
00:32:54.356 --> 00:32:58.346
<00:32:54.356>impact <00:32:54.472>was. <00:32:54.589>Can <00:32:54.706>you <00:32:54.822>share <00:32:54.939>a <00:32:55.056>screen <00:32:55.172>and <00:32:55.289>show <00:32:55.406>us <00:32:55.522>what <00:32:55.639>that <00:32:55.756>looks

618
00:32:58.396 --> 00:32:58.496
like?

619
00:32:58.506 --> 00:32:59.276
<00:32:58.506>Yeah. <00:32:58.852>Totally <00:32:59.199>can.

620
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<00:33:00.136>And <00:33:00.416>none <00:33:00.696>of <00:33:00.976>that <00:33:01.255>is <00:33:01.536>actually--

621
00:33:04.056 --> 00:33:07.016
<00:33:04.056>When <00:33:04.183>I <00:33:04.310>was <00:33:04.437>working <00:33:04.565>at <00:33:04.692>DeepL, <00:33:04.819>I <00:33:04.946>had <00:33:05.074>a <00:33:05.201>couple <00:33:05.328>of <00:33:05.456>things.

622
00:33:07.076 --> 00:33:10.696
<00:33:07.076>I <00:33:07.216>asked <00:33:07.356>LLMs <00:33:07.496>myself. <00:33:07.636>I <00:33:07.776>had <00:33:07.916>a <00:33:08.056>couple <00:33:08.196>of <00:33:08.336>skills <00:33:08.476>I

623
00:33:10.856 --> 00:33:12.426
<00:33:10.856>used. <00:33:11.556>Nothing <00:33:12.256>really

624
00:33:13.476 --> 00:33:17.276
<00:33:13.476>properly <00:33:13.569>done. <00:33:13.662>But <00:33:13.756>then <00:33:13.849>I <00:33:13.942>thought, <00:33:14.036>look, <00:33:14.129>everything <00:33:14.222>I <00:33:14.316>had, <00:33:14.409>the <00:33:14.502>ideas <00:33:14.596>I <00:33:14.689>had <00:33:14.782>in <00:33:14.876>my

625
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<00:33:17.316>head <00:33:17.432>were <00:33:17.549>like, <00:33:17.666>okay, <00:33:17.782>that <00:33:17.899>might <00:33:18.016>be <00:33:18.132>useful <00:33:18.249>for <00:33:18.366>more <00:33:18.482>than <00:33:18.599>just <00:33:18.716>me.

626
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<00:33:21.436>And <00:33:21.580>so <00:33:21.724>I <00:33:21.868>came <00:33:22.012>up <00:33:22.156>with <00:33:22.300>that.

627
00:33:23.276 --> 00:33:27.116
<00:33:23.276>And <00:33:23.416>if <00:33:23.556>we <00:33:23.696>look <00:33:23.836>at <00:33:23.976>any <00:33:24.116>random <00:33:24.256>company <00:33:24.396>right <00:33:24.536>now, <00:33:24.676>I

628
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<00:33:27.136>currently <00:33:27.514>have <00:33:27.892>these

629
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<00:33:29.136>main <00:33:29.263>pillars, <00:33:29.390>is <00:33:29.517>what <00:33:29.645>I <00:33:29.772>call <00:33:29.899>them. <00:33:30.026>One <00:33:30.154>is <00:33:30.281>code <00:33:30.408>and <00:33:30.536>adoption,

630
00:33:32.996 --> 00:33:34.946
<00:33:32.996>education <00:33:33.346>and <00:33:33.696>onboarding, <00:33:34.046>the <00:33:34.396>community,

631
00:33:36.036 --> 00:33:38.596
<00:33:36.036>reach <00:33:36.386>and <00:33:36.736>readiness, <00:33:37.086>and <00:33:37.436>momentum.

632
00:33:38.876 --> 00:33:40.656
<00:33:38.876>And, <00:33:39.156>when <00:33:39.436>you <00:33:39.716>look <00:33:39.995>at <00:33:40.276>them,

633
00:33:41.596 --> 00:33:45.436
<00:33:41.596>the <00:33:41.723>code <00:33:41.850>and <00:33:41.977>adoption <00:33:42.105>is <00:33:42.232>mostly <00:33:42.359>about, <00:33:42.486>hey, <00:33:42.614>do <00:33:42.741>they <00:33:42.868>have <00:33:42.996>packages?

634
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<00:33:45.676>Do <00:33:45.917>they <00:33:46.158>have <00:33:46.399>downloads <00:33:46.640>on <00:33:46.882>packages?

635
00:33:47.076 --> 00:33:47.476
<00:33:47.076>What's <00:33:47.436>the

636
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<00:33:48.576>kind <00:33:48.731>of <00:33:48.887>made-up <00:33:49.042>velocity? <00:33:49.198>Velocity <00:33:49.353>is <00:33:49.509>just <00:33:49.664>calculated <00:33:49.820>by <00:33:49.976>the

637
00:33:52.356 --> 00:33:55.796
<00:33:52.356>age <00:33:52.463>of <00:33:52.571>the <00:33:52.679>package <00:33:52.786>in <00:33:52.894>general. <00:33:53.002>So <00:33:53.109>when <00:33:53.217>was <00:33:53.325>the <00:33:53.432>package <00:33:53.540>first <00:33:53.648>time <00:33:53.756>uploaded?

638
00:33:56.196 --> 00:33:59.496
<00:33:56.196>Using <00:33:56.396>monthly <00:33:56.596>downloads, <00:33:56.795>and <00:33:56.995>we <00:33:57.196>get <00:33:57.396>a <00:33:57.596>velocity.

639
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<00:34:00.856>Repository <00:34:01.031>health <00:34:01.206>is <00:34:01.381>mostly <00:34:01.556>around <00:34:01.731>how <00:34:01.906>polished <00:34:02.081>are <00:34:02.256>the

640
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<00:34:04.446>repositories. <00:34:04.573>Do <00:34:04.700>they <00:34:04.827>use <00:34:04.955>tags? <00:34:05.082>Do <00:34:05.209>they <00:34:05.336>have <00:34:05.464>a <00:34:05.591>proper <00:34:05.718>readme <00:34:05.846>yet?

641
00:34:08.096 --> 00:34:11.576
<00:34:08.096>Do <00:34:08.376>the <00:34:08.656>repositories <00:34:08.936>have <00:34:09.216>proper <00:34:09.496>descriptions?

642
00:34:11.616 --> 00:34:15.036
<00:34:11.616>So <00:34:11.771>pretty <00:34:11.927>much <00:34:12.082>the <00:34:12.238>basic <00:34:12.393>things <00:34:12.549>you <00:34:12.704>should <00:34:12.860>do <00:34:13.016>anyway.

643
00:34:15.417 --> 00:34:17.756
<00:34:15.417>And <00:34:15.697>then, <00:34:15.976>education <00:34:16.257>is <00:34:16.536>all <00:34:16.817>about

644
00:34:18.716 --> 00:34:22.676
<00:34:18.716>how <00:34:18.823>good <00:34:18.931>is <00:34:19.039>the <00:34:19.146>documentation. <00:34:19.254>Do <00:34:19.362>people <00:34:19.469>find <00:34:19.577>quick <00:34:19.685>start <00:34:19.792>things <00:34:19.900>in <00:34:20.008>the <00:34:20.116>docs?

645
00:34:22.996 --> 00:34:25.957
<00:34:22.996>How <00:34:23.196>easy <00:34:23.396>would <00:34:23.596>an <00:34:23.796>agent <00:34:23.996>understand <00:34:24.196>your <00:34:24.396>documentation?

646
00:34:26.377 --> 00:34:27.276
<00:34:26.377>And <00:34:26.646>then <00:34:26.916>it's <00:34:27.186>doing

647
00:34:28.316 --> 00:34:32.096
<00:34:28.315>reviews <00:34:28.471>of <00:34:28.627>the <00:34:28.782>readmes <00:34:28.938>of <00:34:29.093>the <00:34:29.249>currently, <00:34:29.404>I <00:34:29.560>think, <00:34:29.716>top

648
00:34:32.176 --> 00:34:36.036
<00:34:32.176>three <00:34:32.292>repositories. <00:34:32.409>I <00:34:32.525>might <00:34:32.642>change <00:34:32.759>that <00:34:32.875>and <00:34:32.992>see <00:34:33.109>how <00:34:33.226>good <00:34:33.342>and <00:34:33.459>easy <00:34:33.576>are

649
00:34:36.076 --> 00:34:39.417
<00:34:36.076>the <00:34:36.216>readme, <00:34:36.356>how <00:34:36.496>easy <00:34:36.636>it <00:34:36.775>is <00:34:36.916>to <00:34:37.056>get <00:34:37.196>started, <00:34:37.336>pretty <00:34:37.476>much.

650
00:34:39.576 --> 00:34:40.616
<00:34:39.576>Community <00:34:40.043>is <00:34:40.512>just

651
00:34:42.256 --> 00:34:46.156
<00:34:42.255>signals <00:34:42.411>across <00:34:42.567>the <00:34:42.722>board. <00:34:42.878>How <00:34:43.033>many <00:34:43.189>external <00:34:43.344>contributors <00:34:43.500>are <00:34:43.656>there?

652
00:34:46.196 --> 00:34:47.696
<00:34:46.196>How <00:34:46.466>many <00:34:46.735>stars? <00:34:47.005>How <00:34:47.275>many <00:34:47.545>forks?

653
00:34:48.796 --> 00:34:52.196
<00:34:48.795>What's <00:34:48.935>the <00:34:49.076>overall <00:34:49.216>sentiment? <00:34:49.355>And <00:34:49.495>for <00:34:49.636>the <00:34:49.775>overall <00:34:49.915>sentiment, <00:34:50.056>it's <00:34:50.196>taking,

654
00:34:53.236 --> 00:34:56.966
<00:34:53.235>I <00:34:53.516>think, <00:34:53.795>the <00:34:54.076>last <00:34:54.355>30 <00:34:54.636>issues

655
00:34:57.216 --> 00:35:00.726
<00:34:57.216>on <00:34:57.356>a <00:34:57.496>repository, <00:34:57.636>running <00:34:57.776>that <00:34:57.915>through <00:34:58.056>an <00:34:58.196>LLM <00:34:58.336>to <00:34:58.476>figure <00:34:58.616>out,

656
00:35:00.776 --> 00:35:04.696
<00:35:00.776>hey, <00:35:00.915>are <00:35:01.056>people <00:35:01.196>freaking <00:35:01.336>out <00:35:01.475>and <00:35:01.616>are <00:35:01.756>people <00:35:01.895>really <00:35:02.036>negative <00:35:02.176>about

657
00:35:04.706 --> 00:35:08.656
<00:35:04.706>something? <00:35:04.881>Or <00:35:05.056>are <00:35:05.231>they <00:35:05.406>coming, <00:35:05.581>complaining, <00:35:05.756>but <00:35:05.931>are <00:35:06.106>still

658
00:35:08.696 --> 00:35:11.416
<00:35:08.696>kind <00:35:08.823>of <00:35:08.950>nice? <00:35:09.077>Because <00:35:09.205>that, <00:35:09.332>in <00:35:09.459>my <00:35:09.586>eyes, <00:35:09.714>makes <00:35:09.841>a <00:35:09.968>huge <00:35:10.096>difference.

659
00:35:12.336 --> 00:35:15.376
<00:35:12.336>Someone <00:35:12.463>has <00:35:12.590>a <00:35:12.717>problem, <00:35:12.845>can't <00:35:12.972>work, <00:35:13.099>but <00:35:13.226>still <00:35:13.354>comes <00:35:13.481>politely <00:35:13.608>to <00:35:13.736>you.

660
00:35:15.616 --> 00:35:18.266
<00:35:15.616>They <00:35:15.743>respect <00:35:15.870>you <00:35:15.997>way <00:35:16.125>more <00:35:16.252>than <00:35:16.379>someone <00:35:16.506>who <00:35:16.634>comes <00:35:16.761>to <00:35:16.888>you <00:35:17.016>and

661
00:35:19.356 --> 00:35:23.135
<00:35:19.356>shouts <00:35:19.556>at <00:35:19.756>you. <00:35:19.956>So <00:35:20.156>I'm <00:35:20.356>trying <00:35:20.556>to <00:35:20.756>judge

662
00:35:23.436 --> 00:35:27.316
<00:35:23.436>the <00:35:23.552>sentiment <00:35:23.669>as <00:35:23.786>well. <00:35:23.902>For <00:35:24.019>Discord, <00:35:24.136>for <00:35:24.252>example, <00:35:24.369>I <00:35:24.486>currently <00:35:24.602>only <00:35:24.719>scan <00:35:24.836>whether

663
00:35:27.356 --> 00:35:29.736
<00:35:27.356>there <00:35:27.483>is <00:35:27.610>a <00:35:27.737>Discord <00:35:27.865>or <00:35:27.992>not <00:35:28.119>because <00:35:28.246>Discord <00:35:28.374>is <00:35:28.501>a <00:35:28.628>black <00:35:28.756>box.

664
00:35:30.256 --> 00:35:32.856
<00:35:30.256>They <00:35:30.363>have <00:35:30.471>a <00:35:30.579>bot <00:35:30.686>in <00:35:30.794>there. <00:35:30.902>There's <00:35:31.009>no <00:35:31.117>way <00:35:31.225>to <00:35:31.332>say <00:35:31.440>what's <00:35:31.548>going <00:35:31.656>on.

665
00:35:36.696 --> 00:35:40.116
<00:35:36.696>And <00:35:36.871>the <00:35:37.046>reach <00:35:37.221>and <00:35:37.395>AI <00:35:37.571>readiness <00:35:37.746>is <00:35:37.921>pretty <00:35:38.096>much

666
00:35:40.416 --> 00:35:40.816
checking,

667
00:35:41.736 --> 00:35:42.216
<00:35:41.736>do <00:35:42.167>they

668
00:35:43.036 --> 00:35:46.296
<00:35:43.036>do <00:35:43.152>the <00:35:43.269>minimum <00:35:43.386>things <00:35:43.502>like, <00:35:43.619>hey, <00:35:43.736>do <00:35:43.852>they <00:35:43.969>have <00:35:44.086>an <00:35:44.202>LLMs <00:35:44.319>text <00:35:44.436>everywhere?

669
00:35:46.416 --> 00:35:47.936
<00:35:46.416>Do <00:35:46.689>they <00:35:46.963>have <00:35:47.236>an <00:35:47.510>MCP <00:35:47.784>server?

670
00:35:49.396 --> 00:35:52.176
<00:35:49.396>Do <00:35:49.536>they <00:35:49.676>have <00:35:49.816>a <00:35:49.956>blog <00:35:50.096>and <00:35:50.236>YouTube, <00:35:50.376>which <00:35:50.516>is <00:35:50.656>probably <00:35:50.796>indexable?

671
00:35:52.576 --> 00:35:54.856
<00:35:52.576>And <00:35:52.751>how <00:35:52.926>often <00:35:53.101>is <00:35:53.276>the <00:35:53.451>company <00:35:53.626>mentioned, <00:35:53.801>for <00:35:53.976>example,

672
00:35:56.136 --> 00:36:00.096
<00:35:56.136>on <00:35:56.291>Hacker <00:35:56.447>News, <00:35:56.602>on <00:35:56.758>Reddit, <00:35:56.913>is <00:35:57.069>what <00:35:57.224>we're <00:35:57.380>currently <00:35:57.536>scanning.

673
00:36:01.636 --> 00:36:02.236
And

674
00:36:04.176 --> 00:36:07.966
<00:36:04.176>how <00:36:04.331>much <00:36:04.487>developer <00:36:04.642>content <00:36:04.798>is <00:36:04.953>there <00:36:05.109>on <00:36:05.264>the <00:36:05.420>blog <00:36:05.576>and

675
00:36:08.036 --> 00:36:11.696
<00:36:08.036>YouTube? <00:36:08.176>So <00:36:08.316>if <00:36:08.456>they <00:36:08.596>have <00:36:08.736>a <00:36:08.876>blog <00:36:09.016>and <00:36:09.156>YouTube, <00:36:09.296>but <00:36:09.436>it's

676
00:36:11.736 --> 00:36:14.476
<00:36:11.736>100% <00:36:12.016>marketing <00:36:12.296>content, <00:36:12.576>then <00:36:12.856>we <00:36:13.136>don't

677
00:36:15.616 --> 00:36:16.396
<00:36:15.616>count <00:36:15.791>it <00:36:15.967>in <00:36:16.142>that <00:36:16.318>sense

678
00:36:16.732 --> 00:36:19.912
<00:36:16.732>So <00:36:16.859>how <00:36:16.986>does <00:36:17.113>that <00:36:17.241>all <00:36:17.368>work? <00:36:17.495>Do <00:36:17.622>you <00:36:17.750>do <00:36:17.877>that <00:36:18.004>by <00:36:18.132>hand?

679
00:36:20.052 --> 00:36:23.212
<00:36:20.052>Is <00:36:20.168>there <00:36:20.285>an <00:36:20.402>agent <00:36:20.518>that <00:36:20.635>does <00:36:20.752>that? <00:36:20.868>Do <00:36:20.985>you <00:36:21.102>have <00:36:21.218>a <00:36:21.335>script <00:36:21.452>running?

680
00:36:23.292 --> 00:36:26.032
<00:36:23.292>Do <00:36:23.467>you <00:36:23.642>have <00:36:23.817>a <00:36:23.991>bot <00:36:24.167>that <00:36:24.342>goes <00:36:24.517>through <00:36:24.692>GitHub?

681
00:36:26.432 --> 00:36:27.772
<00:36:26.432>Where <00:36:26.673>does <00:36:26.914>the <00:36:27.155>data <00:36:27.396>come <00:36:27.638>from?

682
00:36:28.312 --> 00:36:32.112
<00:36:28.312>It's <00:36:28.511>a <00:36:28.712>mix <00:36:28.912>of <00:36:29.112>many <00:36:29.312>things. <00:36:29.511>It's <00:36:29.712>mostly

683
00:36:32.872 --> 00:36:36.592
<00:36:32.872>a <00:36:33.011>service <00:36:33.152>I <00:36:33.292>wrote <00:36:33.432>which <00:36:33.571>just <00:36:33.712>pretty <00:36:33.852>much <00:36:33.991>runs <00:36:34.132>every <00:36:34.272>minute

684
00:36:36.772 --> 00:36:39.852
<00:36:36.772>and <00:36:37.052>constantly <00:36:37.332>goes <00:36:37.612>through <00:36:37.892>all <00:36:38.172>the...

685
00:36:40.072 --> 00:36:43.912
<00:36:40.072>A <00:36:40.179>lot <00:36:40.287>of <00:36:40.395>that <00:36:40.502>is <00:36:40.610>just <00:36:40.718>deterministic, <00:36:40.825>going <00:36:40.933>to <00:36:41.041>GitHub, <00:36:41.148>seeing <00:36:41.256>if <00:36:41.364>there <00:36:41.472>are

686
00:36:43.932 --> 00:36:47.672
<00:36:43.932>any <00:36:44.071>changes. <00:36:44.212>For <00:36:44.352>the <00:36:44.491>raw <00:36:44.631>numbers, <00:36:44.772>we <00:36:44.912>just <00:36:45.051>use <00:36:45.192>the <00:36:45.332>GitHub

687
00:36:47.732 --> 00:36:51.652
<00:36:47.732>API, <00:36:47.965>and <00:36:48.198>for <00:36:48.432>the <00:36:48.665>narrative <00:36:48.898>and <00:36:49.132>for

688
00:36:51.692 --> 00:36:55.532
<00:36:51.692>the <00:36:51.832>more <00:36:51.972>explaining <00:36:52.112>features, <00:36:52.252>we <00:36:52.392>send <00:36:52.532>the <00:36:52.672>data <00:36:52.812>to <00:36:52.952>an <00:36:53.092>LLM.

689
00:36:56.372 --> 00:36:59.672
<00:36:56.372>So <00:36:56.499>for <00:36:56.626>the <00:36:56.753>growth, <00:36:56.881>for <00:36:57.008>example, <00:36:57.135>are <00:36:57.262>you <00:36:57.390>just <00:36:57.517>doing <00:36:57.644>a <00:36:57.772>comparison?

690
00:36:59.712 --> 00:37:02.792
<00:36:59.712>Is <00:36:59.805>that <00:36:59.898>what <00:36:59.992>that <00:37:00.085>sort <00:37:00.178>of <00:37:00.272>script <00:37:00.365>will <00:37:00.458>do, <00:37:00.552>do <00:37:00.645>a <00:37:00.738>comparison <00:37:00.832>with <00:37:00.925>the <00:37:01.018>current <00:37:01.112>numbers

691
00:37:02.832 --> 00:37:06.612
<00:37:02.832>or <00:37:02.948>last <00:37:03.065>week's <00:37:03.182>numbers? <00:37:03.298>Is <00:37:03.415>there <00:37:03.531>a <00:37:03.648>sort <00:37:03.765>of <00:37:03.882>milestone, <00:37:03.998>like <00:37:04.115>every <00:37:04.232>Monday

692
00:37:06.672 --> 00:37:10.352
<00:37:06.672>morning? <00:37:06.827>How <00:37:06.983>does <00:37:07.138>it <00:37:07.294>do <00:37:07.449>the <00:37:07.605>comparison, <00:37:07.760>on <00:37:07.916>a <00:37:08.072>weekly

693
00:37:10.392 --> 00:37:11.272
<00:37:10.392>basis, <00:37:11.183>or?

694
00:37:12.732 --> 00:37:16.412
<00:37:12.732>A <00:37:12.848>lot <00:37:12.965>of <00:37:13.082>that <00:37:13.198>still <00:37:13.315>has <00:37:13.432>to <00:37:13.548>grow. <00:37:13.665>The <00:37:13.782>basic <00:37:13.898>idea <00:37:14.015>is <00:37:14.132>for

695
00:37:16.912 --> 00:37:20.862
<00:37:16.912>GitHub, <00:37:17.087>for <00:37:17.261>example, <00:37:17.437>for <00:37:17.611>any <00:37:17.787>public <00:37:17.962>repository, <00:37:18.136>you <00:37:18.312>get

696
00:37:20.892 --> 00:37:24.152
<00:37:20.892>data, <00:37:21.047>I <00:37:21.203>think <00:37:21.358>for <00:37:21.514>the <00:37:21.669>maximum <00:37:21.825>of <00:37:21.980>90 <00:37:22.136>days <00:37:22.292>back.

697
00:37:24.392 --> 00:37:27.912
<00:37:24.392>If <00:37:24.469>you <00:37:24.547>don't <00:37:24.625>have <00:37:24.703>an <00:37:24.780>ID, <00:37:24.858>I <00:37:24.936>believe <00:37:25.014>you <00:37:25.091>don't <00:37:25.169>sit <00:37:25.247>in <00:37:25.325>the <00:37:25.403>org, <00:37:25.480>you <00:37:25.558>only <00:37:25.636>get <00:37:25.714>90 <00:37:25.792>days.

698
00:37:28.492 --> 00:37:31.852
<00:37:28.492>And <00:37:28.692>so <00:37:28.892>I'm <00:37:29.092>actually <00:37:29.292>tracking <00:37:29.492>that, <00:37:29.692>and <00:37:29.892>then

699
00:37:32.812 --> 00:37:36.792
<00:37:32.812>in <00:37:32.912>90 <00:37:33.011>days, <00:37:33.112>I <00:37:33.212>can <00:37:33.312>actually <00:37:33.412>see <00:37:33.511>how <00:37:33.612>much <00:37:33.712>has <00:37:33.812>changed <00:37:33.912>in <00:37:34.011>the <00:37:34.112>last <00:37:34.212>90

700
00:37:36.832 --> 00:37:37.132
days.

701
00:37:38.632 --> 00:37:42.492
<00:37:38.632>But <00:37:38.865>also <00:37:39.098>the <00:37:39.332>values <00:37:39.565>itself <00:37:39.798>are <00:37:40.032>constantly

702
00:37:42.772 --> 00:37:43.992
<00:37:42.772>pretty <00:37:43.046>much <00:37:43.321>updated <00:37:43.595>every <00:37:43.870>day.

703
00:37:45.152 --> 00:37:46.112
<00:37:45.152>And <00:37:45.368>I <00:37:45.584>keep <00:37:45.800>track <00:37:46.016>of

704
00:37:47.332 --> 00:37:48.612
<00:37:47.332>my <00:37:47.620>numbers <00:37:47.908>in <00:37:48.196>that <00:37:48.484>sense.

705
00:37:49.212 --> 00:37:49.572
Mm-hmm.

706
00:37:49.602 --> 00:37:53.132
<00:37:49.602>Do <00:37:49.729>they <00:37:49.856>currently <00:37:49.983>have <00:37:50.111>a <00:37:50.238>huge <00:37:50.365>jump <00:37:50.492>in <00:37:50.620>downloads, <00:37:50.747>and <00:37:50.874>that <00:37:51.002>would

707
00:37:53.172 --> 00:37:56.731
<00:37:53.172>be <00:37:53.347>reflected <00:37:53.522>in <00:37:53.697>the <00:37:53.872>overall <00:37:54.047>rating, <00:37:54.222>which <00:37:54.397>I <00:37:54.572>track

708
00:37:57.172 --> 00:37:58.031
<00:37:57.172>every <00:37:57.429>time <00:37:57.687>it's <00:37:57.945>changed.

709
00:37:58.692 --> 00:38:01.632
<00:37:58.692>One <00:37:58.892>interesting <00:37:59.092>thing <00:37:59.292>that <00:37:59.492>I <00:37:59.692>found <00:37:59.892>is <00:38:00.092>localization.

710
00:38:01.752 --> 00:38:05.632
<00:38:01.752>It's <00:38:01.879>very <00:38:02.006>easy <00:38:02.133>to <00:38:02.261>say <00:38:02.388>a <00:38:02.515>company <00:38:02.642>is <00:38:02.770>very <00:38:02.897>good <00:38:03.024>at <00:38:03.152>DevRel

711
00:38:05.692 --> 00:38:09.432
<00:38:05.692>because <00:38:05.847>their <00:38:06.003>people <00:38:06.158>actually <00:38:06.314>post <00:38:06.469>a <00:38:06.625>lot <00:38:06.780>of <00:38:06.936>stuff <00:38:07.092>on

712
00:38:09.492 --> 00:38:13.332
<00:38:09.492>GitHub <00:38:09.592>and <00:38:09.692>these <00:38:09.792>kind <00:38:09.892>of <00:38:09.992>things. <00:38:10.092>When <00:38:10.192>I <00:38:10.292>worked <00:38:10.392>for <00:38:10.492>Microsoft, <00:38:10.592>it <00:38:10.692>was <00:38:10.792>always <00:38:10.892>like,

713
00:38:13.342 --> 00:38:13.632
"Okay,

714
00:38:14.492 --> 00:38:17.852
<00:38:14.492>how <00:38:14.608>much <00:38:14.725>do <00:38:14.842>you <00:38:14.958>have <00:38:15.075>in <00:38:15.192>the <00:38:15.308>US?" <00:38:15.425>Because <00:38:15.542>that's <00:38:15.658>the <00:38:15.775>important <00:38:15.892>market.

715
00:38:17.872 --> 00:38:19.772
<00:38:17.872>But <00:38:18.105>we <00:38:18.338>had <00:38:18.571>huge <00:38:18.805>successes <00:38:19.038>in <00:38:19.272>India.

716
00:38:19.862 --> 00:38:23.012
<00:38:19.862>We <00:38:20.037>had <00:38:20.212>huge <00:38:20.387>successes <00:38:20.562>in <00:38:20.737>Poland <00:38:20.912>and <00:38:21.087>those <00:38:21.262>places.

717
00:38:23.092 --> 00:38:26.952
<00:38:23.092>So <00:38:23.192>it <00:38:23.292>would <00:38:23.392>be <00:38:23.492>interesting <00:38:23.592>to <00:38:23.692>have <00:38:23.792>a <00:38:23.892>comparison <00:38:23.992>for <00:38:24.092>that <00:38:24.192>one <00:38:24.292>as <00:38:24.392>well, <00:38:24.492>to

718
00:38:26.972 --> 00:38:30.732
<00:38:26.972>break <00:38:27.088>it <00:38:27.205>down <00:38:27.322>to <00:38:27.438>different <00:38:27.555>markets <00:38:27.672>rather <00:38:27.788>than <00:38:27.905>just <00:38:28.022>saying, <00:38:28.138>like, <00:38:28.255>"Okay, <00:38:28.372>you

719
00:38:30.792 --> 00:38:34.572
<00:38:30.792>only <00:38:30.908>focus <00:38:31.025>on <00:38:31.142>Americas, <00:38:31.258>but <00:38:31.375>here's <00:38:31.491>a <00:38:31.608>lot <00:38:31.725>of <00:38:31.842>opportunity <00:38:31.958>that <00:38:32.075>you're <00:38:32.192>actually

720
00:38:34.612 --> 00:38:35.272
<00:38:34.612>missing <00:38:34.909>out <00:38:35.206>on."

721
00:38:35.972 --> 00:38:39.892
<00:38:35.972>One <00:38:36.079>thing <00:38:36.187>I <00:38:36.295>wanted <00:38:36.402>to <00:38:36.510>achieve <00:38:36.618>with <00:38:36.725>that <00:38:36.833>is <00:38:36.941>also <00:38:37.048>just <00:38:37.156>to <00:38:37.264>make <00:38:37.372>people

722
00:38:40.052 --> 00:38:43.682
<00:38:40.052>think <00:38:40.179>about <00:38:40.306>it. <00:38:40.433>I <00:38:40.561>didn't <00:38:40.688>expect <00:38:40.815>to <00:38:40.942>come <00:38:41.070>up <00:38:41.197>with <00:38:41.324>something <00:38:41.452>that's

723
00:38:43.772 --> 00:38:44.632
<00:38:43.772>perfect <00:38:44.159>straight <00:38:44.546>away.

724
00:38:45.532 --> 00:38:45.922
<00:38:45.532>I've <00:38:45.883>been-

725
00:38:46.012 --> 00:38:46.161
<00:38:46.012>Of <00:38:46.146>course

726
00:38:46.161 --> 00:38:49.502
<00:38:46.161>... <00:38:46.277>in <00:38:46.394>touch <00:38:46.511>with <00:38:46.627>people, <00:38:46.744>and <00:38:46.861>they <00:38:46.977>already <00:38:47.094>said, <00:38:47.211>"Oh, <00:38:47.327>look, <00:38:47.444>that <00:38:47.561>number,

727
00:38:50.252 --> 00:38:52.152
<00:38:50.252>I <00:38:50.407>don't <00:38:50.563>really <00:38:50.718>like <00:38:50.874>that. <00:38:51.029>Let's <00:38:51.185>talk <00:38:51.340>about <00:38:51.496>it," <00:38:51.652>whatever.

728
00:38:52.772 --> 00:38:56.712
<00:38:52.772>And <00:38:52.872>I <00:38:52.971>instantly <00:38:53.072>said, <00:38:53.172>"Look, <00:38:53.272>yeah, <00:38:53.372>I <00:38:53.471>want <00:38:53.572>to <00:38:53.672>keep <00:38:53.772>it <00:38:53.872>fair <00:38:53.971>for <00:38:54.072>everyone, <00:38:54.172>and

729
00:38:56.812 --> 00:38:59.592
<00:38:56.812>I <00:38:56.967>want <00:38:57.123>to <00:38:57.278>evolve <00:38:57.434>it <00:38:57.589>into <00:38:57.745>something <00:38:57.900>people <00:38:58.056>can <00:38:58.212>trust."

730
00:39:00.432 --> 00:39:04.192
<00:39:00.432>I <00:39:00.531>don't <00:39:00.631>know <00:39:00.732>if <00:39:00.832>we <00:39:00.932>are <00:39:01.031>there <00:39:01.131>yet, <00:39:01.232>and <00:39:01.332>many <00:39:01.432>numbers <00:39:01.531>probably <00:39:01.631>need <00:39:01.732>to <00:39:01.832>change.

731
00:39:04.232 --> 00:39:08.052
<00:39:04.232>We <00:39:04.387>need <00:39:04.543>to <00:39:04.698>check <00:39:04.854>more <00:39:05.009>signals. <00:39:05.165>I <00:39:05.320>even <00:39:05.476>want <00:39:05.632>to

732
00:39:08.192 --> 00:39:11.712
<00:39:08.192>have <00:39:08.299>a <00:39:08.407>way <00:39:08.515>for <00:39:08.622>people <00:39:08.730>to <00:39:08.838>be <00:39:08.945>able <00:39:09.053>to <00:39:09.161>add <00:39:09.268>their <00:39:09.376>Discord <00:39:09.484>to <00:39:09.592>that.

733
00:39:12.032 --> 00:39:15.712
<00:39:12.032>Maybe <00:39:12.125>I <00:39:12.218>write <00:39:12.312>a <00:39:12.405>little <00:39:12.498>bot <00:39:12.592>they <00:39:12.685>can <00:39:12.778>invite <00:39:12.872>into <00:39:12.965>Discord, <00:39:13.058>and <00:39:13.152>then <00:39:13.245>we <00:39:13.338>can <00:39:13.432>track

734
00:39:16.132 --> 00:39:19.792
<00:39:16.132>Discord <00:39:16.259>activity <00:39:16.386>and <00:39:16.513>segment <00:39:16.641>it. <00:39:16.768>There's <00:39:16.895>a <00:39:17.022>lot <00:39:17.150>more <00:39:17.277>ideas <00:39:17.404>in <00:39:17.532>my

735
00:39:19.812 --> 00:39:22.012
<00:39:19.812>head <00:39:20.092>to <00:39:20.372>improve <00:39:20.652>that <00:39:20.932>for <00:39:21.212>people.

736
00:39:22.732 --> 00:39:25.732
<00:39:22.732>Yeah, <00:39:22.859>I <00:39:22.986>like <00:39:23.113>the <00:39:23.241>idea <00:39:23.368>of <00:39:23.495>having <00:39:23.622>a <00:39:23.750>comparison <00:39:23.877>site <00:39:24.004>like <00:39:24.132>that.

737
00:39:25.792 --> 00:39:29.752
<00:39:25.792>It <00:39:25.908>would <00:39:26.025>be <00:39:26.142>something <00:39:26.258>that <00:39:26.375>I <00:39:26.491>guess <00:39:26.608>we <00:39:26.725>as <00:39:26.842>developers <00:39:26.958>platform <00:39:27.075>could <00:39:27.192>offer

738
00:39:29.832 --> 00:39:33.732
<00:39:29.832>as <00:39:29.959>well. <00:39:30.086>This <00:39:30.213>is <00:39:30.341>a <00:39:30.468>place <00:39:30.595>where <00:39:30.722>this <00:39:30.850>is <00:39:30.977>really <00:39:31.104>interesting <00:39:31.232>to

739
00:39:33.792 --> 00:39:37.572
<00:39:33.792>see. <00:39:33.932>The <00:39:34.072>only <00:39:34.212>worry <00:39:34.352>I <00:39:34.491>have <00:39:34.632>with <00:39:34.772>any <00:39:34.912>comparison <00:39:35.052>site <00:39:35.192>is

740
00:39:37.612 --> 00:39:41.392
<00:39:37.612>sooner <00:39:37.705>or <00:39:37.798>later, <00:39:37.892>there <00:39:37.985>will <00:39:38.078>be <00:39:38.172>people <00:39:38.265>offering <00:39:38.358>lots <00:39:38.452>of <00:39:38.545>money <00:39:38.638>to <00:39:38.732>show <00:39:38.825>them <00:39:38.918>as <00:39:39.012>the

741
00:39:41.472 --> 00:39:43.552
<00:39:41.472>best <00:39:41.938>ones. <00:39:42.405>So <00:39:42.872>I

742
00:39:45.652 --> 00:39:49.632
<00:39:45.652>hope <00:39:45.807>you <00:39:45.963>would <00:39:46.118>get <00:39:46.274>into <00:39:46.429>that <00:39:46.585>problem, <00:39:46.740>but <00:39:46.896>I <00:39:47.052>found

743
00:39:49.832 --> 00:39:53.512
<00:39:49.832>these <00:39:50.112>measuring <00:39:50.392>things <00:39:50.672>become <00:39:50.952>very <00:39:51.232>gameable

744
00:39:53.592 --> 00:39:55.622
<00:39:53.592>after <00:39:53.792>a <00:39:53.992>while. <00:39:54.192>So <00:39:54.392>that's <00:39:54.592>one <00:39:54.792>thing <00:39:54.992>that-

745
00:39:55.642 --> 00:39:55.642
Yeah

746
00:39:55.642 --> 00:39:56.851
<00:39:55.642>... <00:39:55.914>I <00:39:56.186>really <00:39:56.458>find <00:39:56.730>annoying.

747
00:39:57.332 --> 00:39:58.652
<00:39:57.332>That <00:39:57.728>was <00:39:58.124>one <00:39:58.520>reason

748
00:39:59.832 --> 00:40:02.012
<00:39:59.832>why <00:39:59.971>the <00:40:00.112>whole <00:40:00.252>thing <00:40:00.392>is <00:40:00.531>not <00:40:00.672>open <00:40:00.812>source <00:40:00.952>yet, <00:40:01.092>for <00:40:01.232>example.

749
00:40:02.532 --> 00:40:05.292
<00:40:02.532>At <00:40:02.625>the <00:40:02.718>beginning, <00:40:02.812>I <00:40:02.905>thought, <00:40:02.998>"Oh, <00:40:03.092>let's <00:40:03.185>put <00:40:03.278>it <00:40:03.372>open <00:40:03.465>source <00:40:03.558>on <00:40:03.652>GitHub." <00:40:03.745>But <00:40:03.838>then <00:40:03.932>I

750
00:40:05.312 --> 00:40:05.772
<00:40:05.312>was <00:40:05.519>like, <00:40:05.726>okay,

751
00:40:06.632 --> 00:40:10.152
<00:40:06.632>if <00:40:06.787>everyone <00:40:06.943>knows <00:40:07.098>the <00:40:07.254>exact <00:40:07.409>code, <00:40:07.565>how <00:40:07.720>things <00:40:07.876>are <00:40:08.032>done,

752
00:40:10.212 --> 00:40:12.132
<00:40:10.212>then <00:40:10.492>they <00:40:10.772>can <00:40:11.052>easily <00:40:11.332>game <00:40:11.612>it.

753
00:40:12.892 --> 00:40:13.452
Mm-hmm.

754
00:40:13.472 --> 00:40:15.172
<00:40:13.472>Then <00:40:13.672>I <00:40:13.872>don't <00:40:14.072>think <00:40:14.272>that <00:40:14.472>would <00:40:14.672>be <00:40:14.872>fair.

755
00:40:15.712 --> 00:40:19.192
<00:40:15.712>But <00:40:15.805>the <00:40:15.898>other <00:40:15.992>problem <00:40:16.085>is <00:40:16.178>I <00:40:16.272>have <00:40:16.365>right <00:40:16.458>now, <00:40:16.552>and <00:40:16.645>I'm <00:40:16.738>trying <00:40:16.832>to <00:40:16.925>solve <00:40:17.018>it, <00:40:17.112>but

756
00:40:19.832 --> 00:40:20.272
<00:40:19.832>I <00:40:20.029>don't <00:40:20.228>know.

757
00:40:21.232 --> 00:40:25.072
<00:40:21.232>Obviously, <00:40:21.512>the <00:40:21.792>big <00:40:22.072>ones <00:40:22.352>appear <00:40:22.632>pretty

758
00:40:25.132 --> 00:40:27.592
<00:40:25.132>high. <00:40:25.598>Especially <00:40:26.065>GitHub <00:40:26.532>is

759
00:40:28.932 --> 00:40:29.792
<00:40:28.932>pretty <00:40:29.319>much <00:40:29.706>always

760
00:40:30.612 --> 00:40:34.571
<00:40:30.612>in <00:40:30.739>the <00:40:30.866>top <00:40:30.993>three <00:40:31.121>at <00:40:31.248>least. <00:40:31.375>That's <00:40:31.502>because <00:40:31.630>of <00:40:31.757>the <00:40:31.884>absolute <00:40:32.012>amount

761
00:40:34.631 --> 00:40:38.451
<00:40:34.631>of <00:40:34.830>reach <00:40:35.031>GitHub <00:40:35.231>has. <00:40:35.431>The <00:40:35.631>numbers <00:40:35.830>are <00:40:36.031>just...

762
00:40:38.832 --> 00:40:42.512
<00:40:38.832>I <00:40:38.971>tried <00:40:39.112>to <00:40:39.252>tune <00:40:39.392>it <00:40:39.531>down <00:40:39.672>and <00:40:39.812>then <00:40:39.952>have <00:40:40.092>formulas <00:40:40.232>that

763
00:40:42.552 --> 00:40:46.352
<00:40:42.552>include <00:40:42.727>age, <00:40:42.902>for <00:40:43.077>example, <00:40:43.252>so <00:40:43.427>younger <00:40:43.602>companies <00:40:43.777>have <00:40:43.952>little

764
00:40:46.372 --> 00:40:49.172
<00:40:46.372>bit <00:40:46.605>better <00:40:46.838>scoring <00:40:47.071>if <00:40:47.305>they <00:40:47.538>grow <00:40:47.772>fast.

765
00:40:50.492 --> 00:40:54.332
<00:40:50.492>But <00:40:50.599>everything <00:40:50.707>I <00:40:50.815>do <00:40:50.922>with <00:40:51.030>all <00:40:51.138>formulas <00:40:51.245>I <00:40:51.353>change, <00:40:51.461>GitHub <00:40:51.568>always <00:40:51.676>ends <00:40:51.784>up <00:40:51.892>being

766
00:40:54.372 --> 00:40:57.412
<00:40:54.372>that <00:40:54.479>high <00:40:54.587>because <00:40:54.695>they <00:40:54.802>are <00:40:54.910>that <00:40:55.018>large, <00:40:55.125>and <00:40:55.233>they <00:40:55.341>do <00:40:55.448>that <00:40:55.556>much, <00:40:55.664>and <00:40:55.772>they-

767
00:40:58.312 --> 00:41:00.852
<00:40:58.312>Well, <00:40:58.511>they <00:40:58.712>are <00:40:58.912>the <00:40:59.112>platform. <00:40:59.312>That's <00:40:59.511>the <00:40:59.712>thing.

768
00:41:00.882 --> 00:41:01.052
Yeah.

769
00:41:01.452 --> 00:41:04.912
<00:41:01.452>All <00:41:01.568>the <00:41:01.685>others <00:41:01.802>are <00:41:01.918>hosting <00:41:02.035>their <00:41:02.152>stuff <00:41:02.268>on <00:41:02.385>GitHub, <00:41:02.502>and <00:41:02.618>one <00:41:02.735>of <00:41:02.852>your

770
00:41:06.152 --> 00:41:10.112
<00:41:06.152>criteria <00:41:06.239>is <00:41:06.327>if <00:41:06.414>they <00:41:06.502>have <00:41:06.589>a <00:41:06.677>good <00:41:06.764>GitHub <00:41:06.852>account <00:41:06.939>or <00:41:07.027>if <00:41:07.114>they <00:41:07.202>have <00:41:07.289>a <00:41:07.377>good <00:41:07.464>GitHub <00:41:07.552>repo.

771
00:41:10.222 --> 00:41:12.012
<00:41:10.222>So <00:41:10.688>that <00:41:11.155>would <00:41:11.622>be-

772
00:41:12.132 --> 00:41:12.202
<00:41:12.132>That's <00:41:12.195>true

773
00:41:12.202 --> 00:41:16.092
<00:41:12.202>... <00:41:12.302>one <00:41:12.402>thing <00:41:12.502>where <00:41:12.602>maybe <00:41:12.702>you <00:41:12.802>can <00:41:12.902>just <00:41:13.002>take <00:41:13.102>them <00:41:13.202>out <00:41:13.302>and <00:41:13.402>say, <00:41:13.502>okay, <00:41:13.602>let's

774
00:41:16.812 --> 00:41:20.732
<00:41:16.812>have <00:41:16.967>a <00:41:17.123>filter <00:41:17.278>mechanism <00:41:17.434>of <00:41:17.589>saying, <00:41:17.745>"Don't <00:41:17.900>show <00:41:18.056>hosting <00:41:18.212>parts,"

775
00:41:21.372 --> 00:41:25.292
<00:41:21.372>or <00:41:21.571>show <00:41:21.772>basically <00:41:21.971>companies <00:41:22.172>that <00:41:22.372>are <00:41:22.571>in <00:41:22.772>or

776
00:41:25.352 --> 00:41:28.712
<00:41:25.352>cut <00:41:25.479>down <00:41:25.606>by <00:41:25.733>vertical <00:41:25.861>and <00:41:25.988>say <00:41:26.115>like, <00:41:26.242>"Okay, <00:41:26.370>these <00:41:26.497>are <00:41:26.624>security <00:41:26.752>companies.

777
00:41:28.792 --> 00:41:32.392
<00:41:28.792>These <00:41:28.908>are <00:41:29.025>hosting <00:41:29.142>company. <00:41:29.258>These <00:41:29.375>are <00:41:29.491>kind <00:41:29.608>of <00:41:29.725>things." <00:41:29.842>So <00:41:29.958>that <00:41:30.075>would <00:41:30.192>be

778
00:41:32.592 --> 00:41:33.282
<00:41:32.592>one <00:41:32.902>way <00:41:33.213>of-

779
00:41:34.492 --> 00:41:36.862
<00:41:34.492>Yeah. <00:41:34.647>What <00:41:34.803>I <00:41:34.958>already <00:41:35.114>did, <00:41:35.269>I <00:41:35.425>probably <00:41:35.580>add <00:41:35.736>more, <00:41:35.892>but

780
00:41:36.912 --> 00:41:40.192
<00:41:36.912>companies <00:41:37.111>need <00:41:37.312>to <00:41:37.511>have <00:41:37.712>an <00:41:37.912>easy <00:41:38.111>way <00:41:38.312>to

781
00:41:41.592 --> 00:41:43.112
<00:41:41.592>compare <00:41:41.934>themselves <00:41:42.276>with <00:41:42.618>similar <00:41:42.960>companies.

782
00:41:43.262 --> 00:41:46.952
<00:41:43.262>So <00:41:43.355>at <00:41:43.448>least <00:41:43.542>I <00:41:43.635>have <00:41:43.728>a <00:41:43.822>filter <00:41:43.915>for <00:41:44.008>all <00:41:44.102>software <00:41:44.195>as <00:41:44.288>a <00:41:44.382>service <00:41:44.475>companies, <00:41:44.568>or <00:41:44.662>you

783
00:41:46.992 --> 00:41:50.912
<00:41:46.992>can <00:41:47.167>compare <00:41:47.342>yourself <00:41:47.517>with <00:41:47.692>other <00:41:47.867>players <00:41:48.042>in <00:41:48.217>AI <00:41:48.392>or

784
00:41:50.932 --> 00:41:53.052
<00:41:50.932>with <00:41:51.281>other <00:41:51.631>platforms, <00:41:51.982>for <00:41:52.332>example.

785
00:41:53.832 --> 00:41:56.152
<00:41:53.832>I <00:41:54.007>probably <00:41:54.182>should <00:41:54.357>add <00:41:54.531>a <00:41:54.707>lot <00:41:54.882>more <00:41:55.057>than <00:41:55.232>that.

786
00:41:56.652 --> 00:41:58.852
<00:41:56.652>But <00:41:56.852>then <00:41:57.052>you <00:41:57.252>can <00:41:57.452>compare <00:41:57.652>yourself <00:41:57.852>directly <00:41:58.052>with

787
00:41:59.752 --> 00:42:02.572
<00:41:59.752>companies <00:41:59.927>who <00:42:00.102>are <00:42:00.277>at <00:42:00.452>least <00:42:00.627>somewhat <00:42:00.802>doing <00:42:00.977>the <00:42:01.152>thing.

788
00:42:03.032 --> 00:42:03.132
Mm-hmm.

789
00:42:03.192 --> 00:42:06.552
<00:42:03.192>You <00:42:03.332>could <00:42:03.472>probably <00:42:03.612>add <00:42:03.752>really <00:42:03.892>actual <00:42:04.032>verticals <00:42:04.172>in <00:42:04.312>there <00:42:04.452>as <00:42:04.592>well.

790
00:42:06.692 --> 00:42:06.972
<00:42:06.692>So <00:42:06.944>like-

791
00:42:07.052 --> 00:42:10.932
<00:42:07.052>Could <00:42:07.159>it <00:42:07.267>be <00:42:07.375>a <00:42:07.482>simple-- <00:42:07.590>I'm <00:42:07.698>just <00:42:07.805>wondering <00:42:07.913>if <00:42:08.021>there's <00:42:08.128>actually <00:42:08.236>some <00:42:08.344>kind <00:42:08.452>of

792
00:42:11.072 --> 00:42:14.352
<00:42:11.072>blunt <00:42:11.179>instrument <00:42:11.287>you <00:42:11.395>can <00:42:11.502>achieve <00:42:11.610>that <00:42:11.718>with <00:42:11.825>in <00:42:11.933>terms <00:42:12.041>of <00:42:12.148>could <00:42:12.256>it <00:42:12.364>just <00:42:12.472>be

793
00:42:15.712 --> 00:42:19.632
<00:42:15.712>something <00:42:15.852>with <00:42:15.992>a <00:42:16.132>maximum, <00:42:16.272>anything <00:42:16.412>over <00:42:16.552>with <00:42:16.692>a <00:42:16.832>certain <00:42:16.972>number <00:42:17.112>of

794
00:42:19.692 --> 00:42:22.300
<00:42:19.692>contributors <00:42:19.867>orI <00:42:20.042>don't <00:42:20.217>know. <00:42:20.392>I'm <00:42:20.567>just <00:42:20.742>trying <00:42:20.917>to <00:42:21.092>think.

795
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:26.380
<00:42:22.440>It <00:42:22.595>could <00:42:22.751>be <00:42:22.906>something <00:42:23.062>that's <00:42:23.217>like, <00:42:23.373>if <00:42:23.528>something <00:42:23.684>is <00:42:23.840>over

796
00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:29.699
<00:42:26.400>a <00:42:26.500>certain <00:42:26.600>size, <00:42:26.700>you <00:42:26.800>filter <00:42:26.900>it <00:42:27.000>out. <00:42:27.100>Almost <00:42:27.200>a <00:42:27.300>way <00:42:27.400>of <00:42:27.500>going <00:42:27.600>like, <00:42:27.700>"Here's <00:42:27.800>the

797
00:42:29.740 --> 00:42:32.140
<00:42:29.740>corporates <00:42:29.879>and <00:42:30.020>here's <00:42:30.160>the <00:42:30.299>indies." <00:42:30.439>But <00:42:30.580>I <00:42:30.720>know <00:42:30.859>it'll <00:42:31.000>be <00:42:31.140>quite

798
00:42:33.300 --> 00:42:36.840
<00:42:33.300>skewed <00:42:33.407>because <00:42:33.515>you'll <00:42:33.623>have <00:42:33.730>some <00:42:33.838>packages <00:42:33.946>or <00:42:34.053>whatever <00:42:34.161>that <00:42:34.269>will <00:42:34.376>just <00:42:34.484>be <00:42:34.592>massive, <00:42:34.700>or

799
00:42:37.220 --> 00:42:39.520
<00:42:37.220>sites <00:42:37.336>that <00:42:37.453>just <00:42:37.569>pop <00:42:37.686>up <00:42:37.803>because <00:42:37.919>we <00:42:38.036>all <00:42:38.153>use <00:42:38.270>them <00:42:38.386>in <00:42:38.503>some <00:42:38.620>way.

800
00:42:39.940 --> 00:42:41.330
<00:42:39.940>But <00:42:40.148>I'm <00:42:40.357>just <00:42:40.565>wondering <00:42:40.774>if <00:42:40.982>there <00:42:41.191>is

801
00:42:42.420 --> 00:42:46.160
<00:42:42.420>some <00:42:42.507>way <00:42:42.595>you <00:42:42.682>could <00:42:42.770>do <00:42:42.857>it <00:42:42.945>just <00:42:43.032>based <00:42:43.120>on <00:42:43.207>a <00:42:43.295>quite <00:42:43.382>a <00:42:43.470>simple <00:42:43.557>thing <00:42:43.645>rather <00:42:43.732>than <00:42:43.820>a

802
00:42:46.200 --> 00:42:47.160
formula.

803
00:42:48.160 --> 00:42:48.410
<00:42:48.160>It's <00:42:48.384>just-

804
00:42:48.560 --> 00:42:52.550
<00:42:48.560>Yeah. <00:42:48.676>Amount <00:42:48.793>of <00:42:48.910>people <00:42:49.026>working <00:42:49.143>in <00:42:49.259>the <00:42:49.376>companies <00:42:49.493>versus <00:42:49.610>amount <00:42:49.726>of <00:42:49.843>people <00:42:49.960>using

805
00:42:52.600 --> 00:42:53.080
<00:42:52.600>their <00:42:53.032>stuff

806
00:42:54.020 --> 00:42:57.700
<00:42:54.020>will <00:42:54.120>be <00:42:54.220>an <00:42:54.320>interesting <00:42:54.420>one, <00:42:54.520>but <00:42:54.620>it's <00:42:54.720>also <00:42:54.820>unfair <00:42:54.920>because <00:42:55.020>I'm <00:42:55.120>quite <00:42:55.220>sure <00:42:55.320>GitHub <00:42:55.420>has

807
00:42:57.720 --> 00:43:01.460
<00:42:57.720>thousands <00:42:57.813>of <00:42:57.906>people, <00:42:58.000>but <00:42:58.093>I <00:42:58.186>know <00:42:58.279>that <00:42:58.373>two <00:42:58.466>or <00:42:58.560>three <00:42:58.653>people <00:42:58.746>are <00:42:58.839>working <00:42:58.933>in <00:42:59.026>that <00:42:59.120>DevRel

808
00:43:01.520 --> 00:43:01.780
thing.

809
00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:02.960
Yeah.

810
00:43:03.020 --> 00:43:03.720
<00:43:03.020>So, <00:43:03.649>it's

811
00:43:04.720 --> 00:43:08.500
<00:43:04.720>always <00:43:04.847>very <00:43:04.974>easy <00:43:05.101>to <00:43:05.229>say <00:43:05.356>large <00:43:05.483>companies <00:43:05.610>have <00:43:05.738>large <00:43:05.865>teams, <00:43:05.992>but <00:43:06.120>normally

812
00:43:08.600 --> 00:43:12.060
<00:43:08.600>they <00:43:08.755>don't. <00:43:08.911>They <00:43:09.066>have <00:43:09.222>very <00:43:09.377>dedicated <00:43:09.533>teams <00:43:09.688>to <00:43:09.844>certain <00:43:10.000>parts.

813
00:43:14.080 --> 00:43:14.240
So-

814
00:43:14.900 --> 00:43:15.500
<00:43:14.900>That's <00:43:15.440>definitely-

815
00:43:15.540 --> 00:43:16.820
<00:43:15.540>But <00:43:15.924>you <00:43:16.308>can <00:43:16.692>already--

816
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:21.160
<00:43:17.920>One <00:43:18.013>thing <00:43:18.106>I <00:43:18.200>thought <00:43:18.293>it <00:43:18.386>interesting <00:43:18.480>while <00:43:18.573>I <00:43:18.666>was <00:43:18.760>working <00:43:18.853>on <00:43:18.946>that, <00:43:19.040>you <00:43:19.133>can <00:43:19.226>already <00:43:19.320>see

817
00:43:21.200 --> 00:43:25.159
<00:43:21.200>that <00:43:21.375>the <00:43:21.549>companies <00:43:21.725>who <00:43:21.899>traditionally <00:43:22.075>do <00:43:22.250>something <00:43:22.424>for <00:43:22.600>developers,

818
00:43:25.300 --> 00:43:29.200
<00:43:25.300>like <00:43:25.533>platforms, <00:43:25.766>for <00:43:26.000>example, <00:43:26.233>or <00:43:26.466>any <00:43:26.700>API

819
00:43:29.220 --> 00:43:32.040
<00:43:29.220>products, <00:43:29.395>are <00:43:29.569>putting <00:43:29.745>way <00:43:29.919>more <00:43:30.095>effort <00:43:30.270>into <00:43:30.444>that <00:43:30.620>than

820
00:43:32.120 --> 00:43:35.980
<00:43:32.120>more <00:43:32.275>normal <00:43:32.431>companies. <00:43:32.586>If <00:43:32.742>you <00:43:32.897>look <00:43:33.053>at <00:43:33.208>Asana, <00:43:33.364>for <00:43:33.520>example,

821
00:43:37.600 --> 00:43:41.540
<00:43:37.600>just <00:43:37.682>a <00:43:37.764>task <00:43:37.847>management <00:43:37.929>tool, <00:43:38.011>they <00:43:38.094>have <00:43:38.176>an <00:43:38.258>API, <00:43:38.341>they <00:43:38.423>are <00:43:38.505>used <00:43:38.588>a <00:43:38.670>lot <00:43:38.752>by <00:43:38.835>the <00:43:38.917>API, <00:43:39.000>but

822
00:43:41.560 --> 00:43:44.340
<00:43:41.560>they <00:43:41.715>are <00:43:41.871>pretty <00:43:42.026>low <00:43:42.182>and <00:43:42.337>that's <00:43:42.493>kind <00:43:42.648>of <00:43:42.804>the <00:43:42.960>same

823
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:48.820
<00:43:45.480>for <00:43:45.587>all <00:43:45.695>of <00:43:45.803>them. <00:43:45.910>If <00:43:46.018>you <00:43:46.126>use <00:43:46.233>Wrike, <00:43:46.341>it's <00:43:46.449>a <00:43:46.556>direct <00:43:46.664>competitor <00:43:46.772>of <00:43:46.880>Asana,

824
00:43:49.160 --> 00:43:50.240
<00:43:49.160>the <00:43:49.645>same. <00:43:50.131>And

825
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:53.360
<00:43:51.800>I <00:43:51.975>don't <00:43:52.150>know, <00:43:52.325>Teamwork, <00:43:52.500>for <00:43:52.675>example, <00:43:52.850>is <00:43:53.025>another <00:43:53.200>one.

826
00:43:54.380 --> 00:43:58.340
<00:43:54.380>They <00:43:54.487>are <00:43:54.595>all <00:43:54.703>roughly <00:43:54.810>the <00:43:54.918>same. <00:43:55.026>They're <00:43:55.133>doing <00:43:55.241>a <00:43:55.349>little <00:43:55.456>bit <00:43:55.564>so <00:43:55.672>people <00:43:55.780>know

827
00:43:58.400 --> 00:43:59.500
<00:43:58.400>about <00:43:58.895>the <00:43:59.390>API,

828
00:44:00.380 --> 00:44:03.240
<00:44:00.380>but <00:44:00.535>then <00:44:00.691>that's <00:44:00.846>about <00:44:01.002>it. <00:44:01.157>And <00:44:01.313>if <00:44:01.468>you <00:44:01.624>look <00:44:01.780>at

829
00:44:04.420 --> 00:44:08.319
<00:44:04.420>the <00:44:04.547>larger <00:44:04.674>platforms, <00:44:04.801>whatever, <00:44:04.929>they <00:44:05.056>know <00:44:05.183>how <00:44:05.310>important <00:44:05.438>developer <00:44:05.565>relations <00:44:05.692>is, <00:44:05.820>and

830
00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:09.960
<00:44:08.360>they <00:44:08.710>do <00:44:09.060>a <00:44:09.410>lot <00:44:09.760>more.

831
00:44:10.340 --> 00:44:14.020
<00:44:10.340>One <00:44:10.480>thing <00:44:10.620>that <00:44:10.760>would <00:44:10.900>be <00:44:11.040>interesting <00:44:11.180>to <00:44:11.320>offer <00:44:11.460>is <00:44:11.600>basically <00:44:11.740>an

832
00:44:14.060 --> 00:44:17.980
<00:44:14.060>improvement <00:44:14.215>score <00:44:14.371>saying, <00:44:14.526>"Hey, <00:44:14.682>here's <00:44:14.837>what's <00:44:14.993>missing <00:44:15.148>on <00:44:15.304>your <00:44:15.460>platform.

833
00:44:18.560 --> 00:44:22.480
<00:44:18.560>That's <00:44:18.653>why <00:44:18.746>you're <00:44:18.840>not <00:44:18.933>as <00:44:19.026>whole <00:44:19.120>dev." <00:44:19.213>So <00:44:19.306>you <00:44:19.400>got <00:44:19.493>the <00:44:19.586>DevRel <00:44:19.680>coach <00:44:19.773>for <00:44:19.866>that <00:44:19.960>one,

834
00:44:22.720 --> 00:44:22.980
<00:44:22.720>I <00:44:22.954>guess.

835
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:24.860
<00:44:23.440>It's <00:44:23.695>loading <00:44:23.951>right <00:44:24.206>now. <00:44:24.462>Yeah, <00:44:24.718>exactly.

836
00:44:25.260 --> 00:44:26.820
<00:44:25.260>So <00:44:25.493>the <00:44:25.726>idea <00:44:25.960>was <00:44:26.193>to <00:44:26.426>offer <00:44:26.660>people--

837
00:44:29.120 --> 00:44:30.040
<00:44:29.120>The <00:44:29.327>idea <00:44:29.534>is <00:44:29.741>to <00:44:29.948>have

838
00:44:30.899 --> 00:44:32.469
<00:44:30.899>a <00:44:31.249>DevRel <00:44:31.598>coach, <00:44:31.949>that's <00:44:32.299>what

839
00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:36.670
<00:44:33.280>I <00:44:33.396>named <00:44:33.513>it, <00:44:33.630>with <00:44:33.746>all <00:44:33.863>the <00:44:33.980>data <00:44:34.096>I <00:44:34.213>have, <00:44:34.330>where <00:44:34.446>it <00:44:34.563>gives <00:44:34.680>you

840
00:44:38.500 --> 00:44:42.280
<00:44:38.500>fine-tuned <00:44:38.966>tasks, <00:44:39.433>what <00:44:39.900>to

841
00:44:42.340 --> 00:44:46.070
<00:44:42.340>improve <00:44:42.515>based <00:44:42.690>on <00:44:42.865>your <00:44:43.040>actual <00:44:43.215>repositories, <00:44:43.390>based <00:44:43.565>on <00:44:43.740>your

842
00:44:46.140 --> 00:44:49.920
<00:44:46.140>actual <00:44:46.279>situations. <00:44:46.420>I'm <00:44:46.560>still <00:44:46.700>working <00:44:46.839>on <00:44:46.980>that, <00:44:47.120>but <00:44:47.259>it <00:44:47.400>look <00:44:47.540>at

843
00:44:50.140 --> 00:44:54.050
<00:44:50.140>your <00:44:50.267>GitHub <00:44:50.394>and <00:44:50.521>says, <00:44:50.649>"Look. <00:44:50.776>Oh, <00:44:50.903>this <00:44:51.030>repository <00:44:51.158>should <00:44:51.285>have <00:44:51.412>more <00:44:51.540>examples."

844
00:44:55.080 --> 00:44:58.240
<00:44:55.080>It <00:44:55.279>would <00:44:55.480>suggest <00:44:55.680>certain <00:44:55.880>blog <00:44:56.080>posts <00:44:56.279>to <00:44:56.480>write,

845
00:44:59.660 --> 00:45:03.290
<00:44:59.660>all <00:44:59.747>these <00:44:59.835>kind <00:44:59.922>of <00:45:00.009>things. <00:45:00.097>Gives <00:45:00.185>you <00:45:00.272>full <00:45:00.359>history, <00:45:00.447>it <00:45:00.535>gives <00:45:00.622>you <00:45:00.710>a <00:45:00.797>list <00:45:00.884>of <00:45:00.972>all <00:45:01.060>the

846
00:45:03.300 --> 00:45:07.140
<00:45:03.300>things <00:45:03.427>where <00:45:03.554>you <00:45:03.681>are <00:45:03.809>mentioned, <00:45:03.936>because <00:45:04.063>that <00:45:04.190>are <00:45:04.318>really <00:45:04.445>strong <00:45:04.572>signals <00:45:04.700>as

847
00:45:07.180 --> 00:45:07.960
<00:45:07.180>well <00:45:07.531>for <00:45:07.882>everyone.

848
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:11.860
<00:45:09.480>If <00:45:09.596>many <00:45:09.713>people <00:45:09.830>talk <00:45:09.946>about <00:45:10.063>you <00:45:10.180>on <00:45:10.296>Reddit, <00:45:10.413>that's <00:45:10.530>a <00:45:10.646>pretty <00:45:10.763>good <00:45:10.880>sign.

849
00:45:14.120 --> 00:45:14.480
<00:45:14.120>Or <00:45:14.444>bad.

850
00:45:14.550 --> 00:45:17.080
<00:45:14.550>They <00:45:14.783>have <00:45:15.016>all <00:45:15.250>that <00:45:15.483>data, <00:45:15.716>so <00:45:15.950>yes.

851
00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:20.300
<00:45:19.000>That's <00:45:19.292>great. <00:45:19.585>That's <00:45:19.877>so <00:45:20.170>good.

852
00:45:20.900 --> 00:45:23.720
<00:45:20.900>That <00:45:21.000>is <00:45:21.100>really <00:45:21.200>useful, <00:45:21.300>yeah. <00:45:21.400>The <00:45:21.500>other <00:45:21.600>thing, <00:45:21.700>of <00:45:21.800>course, <00:45:21.900>will <00:45:22.000>be <00:45:22.100>like, <00:45:22.200>are <00:45:22.300>they

853
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:27.040
<00:45:23.760>hiring? <00:45:23.887>Are <00:45:24.014>they <00:45:24.141>firing? <00:45:24.269>What's <00:45:24.396>going <00:45:24.523>on <00:45:24.650>there? <00:45:24.778>Who <00:45:24.905>are <00:45:25.032>the <00:45:25.160>people?

854
00:45:28.680 --> 00:45:32.520
<00:45:28.680>I <00:45:28.787>find <00:45:28.895>it <00:45:29.003>very <00:45:29.110>fascinating <00:45:29.218>going <00:45:29.326>through <00:45:29.433>LinkedIn <00:45:29.541>and <00:45:29.649>seeing <00:45:29.756>how <00:45:29.864>people <00:45:29.972>are <00:45:30.080>going

855
00:45:32.560 --> 00:45:36.220
<00:45:32.560>from <00:45:32.667>one <00:45:32.775>company <00:45:32.883>to <00:45:32.990>another <00:45:33.098>in <00:45:33.206>the <00:45:33.313>DevRel <00:45:33.421>space, <00:45:33.529>and <00:45:33.636>how <00:45:33.744>many <00:45:33.852>people <00:45:33.960>are

856
00:45:37.300 --> 00:45:39.540
<00:45:37.300>coming <00:45:37.500>back <00:45:37.700>to <00:45:37.900>a <00:45:38.100>company <00:45:38.300>two <00:45:38.500>years <00:45:38.700>later.

857
00:45:39.640 --> 00:45:43.400
<00:45:39.640>That <00:45:39.747>kind <00:45:39.855>of <00:45:39.963>story <00:45:40.070>as <00:45:40.178>well <00:45:40.286>is <00:45:40.393>interesting <00:45:40.501>to <00:45:40.609>see, <00:45:40.716>because <00:45:40.824>I've <00:45:40.932>always <00:45:41.040>been

858
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:47.280
<00:45:43.440>very <00:45:43.547>frustrated <00:45:43.655>that <00:45:43.763>there <00:45:43.870>was <00:45:43.978>a <00:45:44.086>whole <00:45:44.193>movement <00:45:44.301>of <00:45:44.409>DevRel <00:45:44.516>for <00:45:44.624>hire <00:45:44.732>in <00:45:44.840>between,

859
00:45:47.980 --> 00:45:50.920
<00:45:47.980>rather <00:45:48.155>than <00:45:48.330>just <00:45:48.505>people <00:45:48.680>in <00:45:48.855>the <00:45:49.030>company <00:45:49.205>doing <00:45:49.380>DevRel.

860
00:45:51.180 --> 00:45:54.749
<00:45:51.180>And <00:45:51.413>I <00:45:51.646>found <00:45:51.879>that <00:45:52.113>a <00:45:52.346>very <00:45:52.580>unfortunate

861
00:45:55.260 --> 00:45:59.000
<00:45:55.260>change <00:45:55.353>because <00:45:55.446>it <00:45:55.540>felt <00:45:55.633>to <00:45:55.726>me <00:45:55.820>just <00:45:55.913>like <00:45:56.006>you <00:45:56.100>might <00:45:56.193>as <00:45:56.286>well <00:45:56.380>hire <00:45:56.473>a <00:45:56.566>marketing <00:45:56.660>person.

862
00:45:59.120 --> 00:45:59.540
<00:45:59.120>It's <00:45:59.498>not,

863
00:46:00.580 --> 00:46:04.180
<00:46:00.580>to <00:46:00.720>me, <00:46:00.860>not <00:46:01.000>developer <00:46:01.140>evangelism <00:46:01.279>or <00:46:01.420>developer <00:46:01.560>advocacy <00:46:01.700>if <00:46:01.840>you're <00:46:01.980>not

864
00:46:04.380 --> 00:46:07.980
<00:46:04.380>really <00:46:04.555>ingrained <00:46:04.730>in <00:46:04.905>the <00:46:05.080>product. <00:46:05.255>It <00:46:05.430>feels <00:46:05.605>very <00:46:05.780>strange.

865
00:46:08.360 --> 00:46:10.480
<00:46:08.360>I'm <00:46:08.515>seeing <00:46:08.671>that <00:46:08.826>right <00:46:08.982>now <00:46:09.137>because <00:46:09.293>I've <00:46:09.448>been <00:46:09.604>talking <00:46:09.760>to

866
00:46:11.380 --> 00:46:14.940
<00:46:11.380>companies, <00:46:11.496>people <00:46:11.613>are <00:46:11.730>reaching <00:46:11.846>out <00:46:11.963>to <00:46:12.080>me, <00:46:12.196>and <00:46:12.313>I've <00:46:12.430>been <00:46:12.546>having <00:46:12.663>conversations <00:46:12.780>with

867
00:46:14.950 --> 00:46:16.460
<00:46:14.950>companies <00:46:15.144>that <00:46:15.338>are <00:46:15.532>looking <00:46:15.726>for <00:46:15.920>a <00:46:16.114>job, <00:46:16.309>whatever.

868
00:46:17.100 --> 00:46:17.560
But

869
00:46:18.620 --> 00:46:22.140
<00:46:18.620>many, <00:46:18.759>many <00:46:18.900>companies <00:46:19.040>don't <00:46:19.180>see <00:46:19.319>the <00:46:19.460>value <00:46:19.600>in <00:46:19.740>developer <00:46:19.880>relations <00:46:20.020>at

870
00:46:22.200 --> 00:46:25.560
<00:46:22.200>all. <00:46:22.339>I <00:46:22.480>don't <00:46:22.620>know, <00:46:22.759>60K <00:46:22.899>and <00:46:23.040>you're <00:46:23.180>actually <00:46:23.319>doing <00:46:23.460>five <00:46:23.600>jobs.

871
00:46:26.120 --> 00:46:29.980
<00:46:26.120>And <00:46:26.259>that's <00:46:26.400>the <00:46:26.540>story <00:46:26.680>you <00:46:26.819>hear <00:46:26.960>really <00:46:27.100>often, <00:46:27.240>and <00:46:27.380>it <00:46:27.520>really

872
00:46:30.020 --> 00:46:33.950
<00:46:30.020>happens <00:46:30.160>rarely <00:46:30.300>that <00:46:30.440>the <00:46:30.580>company <00:46:30.720>really <00:46:30.860>values <00:46:31.000>DevRel <00:46:31.140>and <00:46:31.280>knows <00:46:31.420>how

873
00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:37.260
<00:46:33.960>important <00:46:34.053>it <00:46:34.146>is, <00:46:34.240>and <00:46:34.333>know <00:46:34.426>how <00:46:34.520>important <00:46:34.613>the <00:46:34.706>people <00:46:34.800>are <00:46:34.893>in <00:46:34.986>the <00:46:35.080>field <00:46:35.173>who <00:46:35.266>know <00:46:35.360>what

874
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:40.960
<00:46:37.280>they're <00:46:37.407>doing. <00:46:37.534>Because <00:46:37.661>it <00:46:37.789>is <00:46:37.916>education <00:46:38.043>in <00:46:38.170>the <00:46:38.298>company <00:46:38.425>and <00:46:38.552>outside <00:46:38.680>the

875
00:46:40.980 --> 00:46:42.180
<00:46:40.980>company. <00:46:41.250>At <00:46:41.520>Devel <00:46:41.790>I <00:46:42.060>was-

876
00:46:42.219 --> 00:46:42.289
Yeah

877
00:46:42.380 --> 00:46:45.500
<00:46:42.380>... <00:46:42.507>educating <00:46:42.634>the <00:46:42.761>marketing <00:46:42.889>team <00:46:43.016>in <00:46:43.143>how <00:46:43.270>to <00:46:43.398>talk <00:46:43.525>to <00:46:43.652>developers. <00:46:43.780>Yeah.

878
00:46:45.660 --> 00:46:47.679
<00:46:45.660>And <00:46:45.859>not <00:46:46.060>promise <00:46:46.259>features <00:46:46.460>that <00:46:46.660>can't <00:46:46.859>be <00:46:47.060>done.

879
00:46:48.600 --> 00:46:49.020
Yeah.

880
00:46:49.060 --> 00:46:49.360
<00:46:49.060>A <00:46:49.330>bit.

881
00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:53.420
<00:46:49.480>Yeah. <00:46:49.607>And <00:46:49.734>that <00:46:49.861>is <00:46:49.989>actually <00:46:50.116>something <00:46:50.243>I <00:46:50.370>think <00:46:50.498>is <00:46:50.625>way <00:46:50.752>more <00:46:50.880>important

882
00:46:53.520 --> 00:46:56.980
<00:46:53.520>going <00:46:53.627>forward, <00:46:53.735>to <00:46:53.843>be <00:46:53.950>honest. <00:46:54.058>Because <00:46:54.166>at <00:46:54.273>the <00:46:54.381>beginning <00:46:54.489>we <00:46:54.596>can <00:46:54.704>talk <00:46:54.812>about <00:46:54.920>how

883
00:46:57.620 --> 00:46:59.940
<00:46:57.620>DevRel <00:46:57.819>needs <00:46:58.020>to <00:46:58.220>change <00:46:58.420>by <00:46:58.620>i, <00:46:58.819>for <00:46:59.020>example.

884
00:46:59.970 --> 00:47:03.820
<00:46:59.970>And <00:47:00.086>I <00:47:00.203>think <00:47:00.319>one <00:47:00.436>thing <00:47:00.553>you <00:47:00.669>can <00:47:00.786>really <00:47:00.903>do <00:47:01.020>is <00:47:01.136>the <00:47:01.253>whole <00:47:01.370>narrative

885
00:47:03.860 --> 00:47:07.150
<00:47:03.860>behind <00:47:04.035>things <00:47:04.210>AI <00:47:04.385>doesn't <00:47:04.560>know. <00:47:04.735>You're <00:47:04.910>killing <00:47:05.085>feature <00:47:05.260>XYZ.

886
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:11.140
<00:47:07.280>AI <00:47:07.455>can <00:47:07.630>only <00:47:07.805>see, <00:47:07.980>"Oh, <00:47:08.155>look, <00:47:08.330>that <00:47:08.505>API <00:47:08.680>is

887
00:47:11.180 --> 00:47:15.040
<00:47:11.180>deprecated." <00:47:11.335>And <00:47:11.491>then <00:47:11.646>you <00:47:11.802>can <00:47:11.957>actually <00:47:12.113>have <00:47:12.268>a <00:47:12.424>YouTube <00:47:12.580>video

888
00:47:15.240 --> 00:47:18.940
<00:47:15.240>and <00:47:15.347>produce <00:47:15.455>content <00:47:15.563>around <00:47:15.670>why <00:47:15.778>you <00:47:15.886>did <00:47:15.993>that, <00:47:16.101>and <00:47:16.209>do <00:47:16.316>that <00:47:16.424>in <00:47:16.532>a <00:47:16.640>nicely

889
00:47:19.020 --> 00:47:20.840
<00:47:19.020>way <00:47:19.370>and <00:47:19.720>trying <00:47:20.070>to <00:47:20.420>explain

890
00:47:21.700 --> 00:47:25.180
<00:47:21.700>everything <00:47:21.839>behind <00:47:21.980>to <00:47:22.120>people, <00:47:22.259>all <00:47:22.399>the <00:47:22.540>things <00:47:22.680>AI <00:47:22.819>doesn't <00:47:22.960>know <00:47:23.100>based

891
00:47:25.220 --> 00:47:26.480
<00:47:25.220>on <00:47:25.598>read <00:47:25.976>me, <00:47:26.354>whatever.

892
00:47:27.050 --> 00:47:30.840
<00:47:27.050>And <00:47:27.157>the <00:47:27.265>story <00:47:27.373>behind <00:47:27.480>it <00:47:27.588>as <00:47:27.696>well. <00:47:27.803>I <00:47:27.911>like <00:47:28.019>the <00:47:28.126>comparison <00:47:28.234>thing <00:47:28.342>as <00:47:28.450>well,

893
00:47:30.940 --> 00:47:34.780
<00:47:30.940>that <00:47:31.140>this <00:47:31.340>would <00:47:31.540>be <00:47:31.740>a <00:47:31.940>tool <00:47:32.140>where <00:47:32.340>companies

894
00:47:34.790 --> 00:47:38.280
<00:47:34.790>strive <00:47:34.930>to <00:47:35.070>become <00:47:35.210>better <00:47:35.350>because <00:47:35.490>they <00:47:35.630>see <00:47:35.770>their <00:47:35.910>competitors <00:47:36.050>are <00:47:36.190>doing.

895
00:47:38.340 --> 00:47:40.540
<00:47:38.340>And <00:47:38.540>I <00:47:38.740>see <00:47:38.940>with <00:47:39.140>social <00:47:39.340>media, <00:47:39.540>I <00:47:39.740>get

896
00:47:41.980 --> 00:47:45.820
<00:47:41.980>hourly <00:47:42.155>emails <00:47:42.330>of <00:47:42.505>like, <00:47:42.680>"Hey, <00:47:42.855>we <00:47:43.030>can <00:47:43.205>do <00:47:43.380>a

897
00:47:45.900 --> 00:47:49.780
<00:47:45.900>competitive <00:47:46.055>analysis <00:47:46.211>for <00:47:46.366>you, <00:47:46.522>for <00:47:46.677>We <00:47:46.833>Are <00:47:46.988>Developers." <00:47:47.144>And <00:47:47.300>there's

898
00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:53.840
<00:47:49.960>millions <00:47:50.076>of <00:47:50.193>tools <00:47:50.310>out <00:47:50.426>there <00:47:50.543>for <00:47:50.660>social <00:47:50.776>media <00:47:50.893>reach, <00:47:51.010>but <00:47:51.126>nobody <00:47:51.243>thought <00:47:51.360>about

899
00:47:53.860 --> 00:47:55.620
<00:47:53.860>the <00:47:54.093>DevRel <00:47:54.326>reach <00:47:54.560>yet <00:47:54.793>because <00:47:55.026>it <00:47:55.260>feels

900
00:47:57.520 --> 00:48:01.080
<00:47:57.520>niche. <00:47:57.647>But <00:47:57.774>I <00:47:57.901>think <00:47:58.029>it's <00:47:58.156>a <00:47:58.283>very <00:47:58.410>interesting <00:47:58.538>bit <00:47:58.665>to <00:47:58.792>do, <00:47:58.920>and

901
00:48:01.100 --> 00:48:03.540
<00:48:01.100>it <00:48:01.255>keeps <00:48:01.411>you <00:48:01.566>busy, <00:48:01.722>so <00:48:01.877>that's <00:48:02.033>quite <00:48:02.188>fun <00:48:02.344>as <00:48:02.500>well.

902
00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:06.440
<00:48:03.920>How <00:48:04.036>much <00:48:04.153>fun <00:48:04.270>did <00:48:04.386>you <00:48:04.503>have <00:48:04.620>building <00:48:04.736>that? <00:48:04.853>What <00:48:04.970>did <00:48:05.086>you <00:48:05.203>start <00:48:05.320>from?

903
00:48:06.600 --> 00:48:07.560
<00:48:06.600>Did <00:48:06.816>you <00:48:07.032>start <00:48:07.248>from <00:48:07.464>scratch?

904
00:48:07.620 --> 00:48:07.630
<00:48:07.620>That <00:48:07.624>was <00:48:07.629>amazing.

905
00:48:07.640 --> 00:48:08.860
<00:48:07.640>Did <00:48:07.914>you <00:48:08.189>white <00:48:08.463>code <00:48:08.738>it?

906
00:48:09.160 --> 00:48:09.280
Yeah.

907
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:14.080
<00:48:10.280>Well, <00:48:10.407>a <00:48:10.534>lot <00:48:10.661>of <00:48:10.789>that <00:48:10.916>is <00:48:11.043>white <00:48:11.170>coded. <00:48:11.298>And <00:48:11.425>it <00:48:11.552>actually <00:48:11.680>started

908
00:48:14.120 --> 00:48:17.680
<00:48:14.120>because <00:48:14.400>I <00:48:14.680>got <00:48:14.960>an <00:48:15.240>offer <00:48:15.520>from

909
00:48:17.860 --> 00:48:18.380
Lovable.

910
00:48:20.200 --> 00:48:24.109
<00:48:20.200>Something, <00:48:20.327>if <00:48:20.454>you're <00:48:20.581>a <00:48:20.709>LinkedIn <00:48:20.836>member, <00:48:20.963>then <00:48:21.090>you <00:48:21.218>get <00:48:21.345>300 <00:48:21.472>credits <00:48:21.600>for

911
00:48:24.160 --> 00:48:28.068
<00:48:24.160>free <00:48:24.287>to <00:48:24.414>try <00:48:24.541>something <00:48:24.669>on <00:48:24.796>Lovable.And <00:48:24.923>then <00:48:25.050>I <00:48:25.178>was <00:48:25.305>sitting <00:48:25.432>in <00:48:25.560>Lovable

912
00:48:28.208 --> 00:48:30.668
<00:48:28.208>like, <00:48:28.363>"What <00:48:28.519>am <00:48:28.674>I <00:48:28.830>actually <00:48:28.985>doing <00:48:29.141>now?" <00:48:29.296>And <00:48:29.452>then <00:48:29.608>I

913
00:48:32.208 --> 00:48:36.128
<00:48:32.208>came <00:48:32.308>up <00:48:32.408>with <00:48:32.508>the <00:48:32.608>idea <00:48:32.708>for <00:48:32.808>that, <00:48:32.908>and <00:48:33.008>then <00:48:33.108>Lovable <00:48:33.208>built <00:48:33.308>the <00:48:33.408>first <00:48:33.508>part <00:48:33.608>of

914
00:48:36.188 --> 00:48:36.768
it.

915
00:48:38.028 --> 00:48:40.408
<00:48:38.028>It's <00:48:38.308>hosted <00:48:38.587>on <00:48:38.868>Lovable <00:48:39.147>right <00:48:39.428>now.

916
00:48:41.368 --> 00:48:41.518
Mm-hmm.

917
00:48:41.588 --> 00:48:44.848
<00:48:41.588>So <00:48:41.715>it's <00:48:41.842>using <00:48:41.969>Superbase, <00:48:42.097>Postgres <00:48:42.224>in <00:48:42.351>the <00:48:42.478>background <00:48:42.606>and <00:48:42.733>all <00:48:42.860>that <00:48:42.988>stuff.

918
00:48:45.848 --> 00:48:49.688
<00:48:45.848>But <00:48:46.003>since <00:48:46.159>I've <00:48:46.314>been <00:48:46.470>doing <00:48:46.625>a <00:48:46.781>lot <00:48:46.936>with <00:48:47.092>Claude <00:48:47.248>as

919
00:48:49.728 --> 00:48:53.548
<00:48:49.728>well. <00:48:49.903>Lovable <00:48:50.078>is <00:48:50.253>really <00:48:50.428>great <00:48:50.603>for <00:48:50.778>the <00:48:50.953>initial <00:48:51.128>MVP

920
00:48:53.648 --> 00:48:55.968
<00:48:53.648>things <00:48:53.928>and <00:48:54.208>getting <00:48:54.488>something <00:48:54.768>out <00:48:55.048>there.

921
00:48:56.068 --> 00:49:00.008
<00:48:56.068>And <00:48:56.208>when <00:48:56.348>you <00:48:56.488>need <00:48:56.628>to <00:48:56.768>fine-tune <00:48:56.908>certain <00:48:57.048>features <00:48:57.188>and <00:48:57.328>all <00:48:57.468>that,

922
00:49:00.088 --> 00:49:00.328
then

923
00:49:01.428 --> 00:49:05.128
<00:49:01.428>either <00:49:01.583>doing <00:49:01.739>things <00:49:01.894>manually, <00:49:02.050>like <00:49:02.205>the <00:49:02.361>layout, <00:49:02.516>I <00:49:02.672>did <00:49:02.828>many

924
00:49:05.188 --> 00:49:07.188
<00:49:05.188>UI <00:49:05.888>pieces <00:49:06.588>manually.

925
00:49:08.248 --> 00:49:12.048
<00:49:08.248>And <00:49:08.355>at <00:49:08.463>some <00:49:08.571>point, <00:49:08.678>Claude <00:49:08.786>is <00:49:08.894>just <00:49:09.001>better <00:49:09.109>for <00:49:09.217>the <00:49:09.324>deeply <00:49:09.432>nested-- <00:49:09.540>Especially <00:49:09.648>when

926
00:49:12.068 --> 00:49:14.648
<00:49:12.068>you <00:49:12.184>need <00:49:12.301>to <00:49:12.418>figure <00:49:12.534>out <00:49:12.651>how <00:49:12.768>to, <00:49:12.884>for <00:49:13.001>example, <00:49:13.118>get <00:49:13.234>data <00:49:13.351>from <00:49:13.468>Reddit

927
00:49:15.528 --> 00:49:19.308
<00:49:15.528>or <00:49:15.703>from <00:49:15.877>how <00:49:16.053>do <00:49:16.227>you <00:49:16.403>pull <00:49:16.578>Hacker <00:49:16.752>News <00:49:16.928>frequently,

928
00:49:19.408 --> 00:49:21.868
<00:49:19.408>then <00:49:19.583>Claude <00:49:19.758>is <00:49:19.933>doing <00:49:20.107>that <00:49:20.283>way <00:49:20.458>better <00:49:20.633>than <00:49:20.808>Lovable.

929
00:49:22.468 --> 00:49:22.618
Mm-hmm.

930
00:49:22.618 --> 00:49:25.588
<00:49:22.618>So <00:49:22.773>it's <00:49:22.929>a <00:49:23.084>little <00:49:23.240>bit <00:49:23.395>of <00:49:23.551>everything, <00:49:23.706>to <00:49:23.862>be <00:49:24.018>honest.

931
00:49:27.548 --> 00:49:28.168
<00:49:27.548>Yeah, <00:49:27.687>it's <00:49:27.827>a <00:49:27.966>good <00:49:28.106>mix.

932
00:49:28.328 --> 00:49:28.338
Yeah.

933
00:49:28.338 --> 00:49:29.528
<00:49:28.338>A <00:49:28.552>little <00:49:28.766>more, <00:49:28.980>especially <00:49:29.194>for <00:49:29.408>UI.

934
00:49:29.658 --> 00:49:33.288
<00:49:29.658>It <00:49:29.833>was <00:49:30.008>amazing. <00:49:30.183>Yeah, <00:49:30.357>just <00:49:30.533>seeing <00:49:30.708>these <00:49:30.883>tiny <00:49:31.058>things

935
00:49:33.368 --> 00:49:35.288
<00:49:33.368>work. <00:49:33.718>I <00:49:34.067>wanted <00:49:34.418>to <00:49:34.768>have

936
00:49:35.428 --> 00:49:39.388
<00:49:35.428>external <00:49:35.894>contributors, <00:49:36.361>so <00:49:36.828>I

937
00:49:39.408 --> 00:49:43.088
<00:49:39.408>needed <00:49:39.563>to <00:49:39.719>figure <00:49:39.874>out <00:49:40.030>a <00:49:40.185>way <00:49:40.341>to <00:49:40.496>find <00:49:40.652>out <00:49:40.808>who

938
00:49:43.148 --> 00:49:47.008
<00:49:43.148>is <00:49:43.275>making <00:49:43.402>pull <00:49:43.529>requests <00:49:43.657>to <00:49:43.784>a <00:49:43.911>company, <00:49:44.038>but <00:49:44.166>is <00:49:44.293>not <00:49:44.420>a <00:49:44.548>member

939
00:49:47.088 --> 00:49:48.228
<00:49:47.088>of <00:49:47.430>the <00:49:47.772>actual <00:49:48.114>organization.

940
00:49:50.048 --> 00:49:53.268
<00:49:50.048>That <00:49:50.187>only <00:49:50.328>works <00:49:50.468>if <00:49:50.607>they <00:49:50.747>have <00:49:50.888>their <00:49:51.028>membership <00:49:51.167>public, <00:49:51.308>but <00:49:51.448>still,

941
00:49:54.468 --> 00:49:58.348
<00:49:54.468>it <00:49:54.595>works <00:49:54.722>partially. <00:49:54.849>And <00:49:54.977>figuring <00:49:55.104>all <00:49:55.231>these <00:49:55.358>details <00:49:55.486>out, <00:49:55.613>working <00:49:55.740>with <00:49:55.868>the

942
00:49:58.388 --> 00:50:01.408
<00:49:58.388>GitHub <00:49:58.528>API <00:49:58.668>again <00:49:58.808>to <00:49:58.948>figure <00:49:59.087>out <00:49:59.228>all <00:49:59.368>the <00:49:59.508>details <00:49:59.648>I <00:49:59.788>need,

943
00:50:02.788 --> 00:50:06.748
<00:50:02.788>that's <00:50:02.875>a <00:50:02.963>lot <00:50:03.050>of <00:50:03.138>fun. <00:50:03.225>I <00:50:03.313>did <00:50:03.400>not <00:50:03.488>write <00:50:03.575>much <00:50:03.663>of <00:50:03.750>the <00:50:03.838>code <00:50:03.925>myself, <00:50:04.013>but <00:50:04.100>I <00:50:04.188>did

944
00:50:06.788 --> 00:50:07.168
<00:50:06.788>all <00:50:07.130>the

945
00:50:08.428 --> 00:50:09.568
<00:50:08.428>figuring <00:50:08.684>out <00:50:08.941>the <00:50:09.197>details <00:50:09.454>myself.

946
00:50:10.248 --> 00:50:14.068
<00:50:10.248>Yeah, <00:50:10.355>we <00:50:10.463>had <00:50:10.571>Apify <00:50:10.678>on <00:50:10.786>the <00:50:10.894>show <00:50:11.001>before, <00:50:11.109>and <00:50:11.217>they're <00:50:11.324>a <00:50:11.432>company <00:50:11.540>that <00:50:11.648>actually

947
00:50:14.408 --> 00:50:18.068
<00:50:14.408>excelled <00:50:14.535>at <00:50:14.662>that <00:50:14.789>one <00:50:14.917>to <00:50:15.044>basically <00:50:15.171>get <00:50:15.298>you <00:50:15.426>access <00:50:15.553>to <00:50:15.680>things <00:50:15.808>and

948
00:50:18.108 --> 00:50:21.248
<00:50:18.108>scrape <00:50:18.263>data <00:50:18.419>and <00:50:18.574>get <00:50:18.730>data <00:50:18.885>where <00:50:19.041>it's <00:50:19.196>tricky <00:50:19.352>to <00:50:19.508>get.

949
00:50:21.668 --> 00:50:24.788
<00:50:21.668>Will <00:50:21.768>be <00:50:21.868>interesting <00:50:21.968>to <00:50:22.068>see <00:50:22.168>if <00:50:22.268>you <00:50:22.368>could <00:50:22.468>use <00:50:22.568>a <00:50:22.668>skill <00:50:22.768>with <00:50:22.868>them <00:50:22.968>to <00:50:23.068>actually

950
00:50:25.388 --> 00:50:28.868
<00:50:25.388>optimize <00:50:25.528>a <00:50:25.668>few <00:50:25.808>of <00:50:25.948>the <00:50:26.087>things <00:50:26.228>that <00:50:26.368>you <00:50:26.508>do <00:50:26.648>right <00:50:26.788>now.

951
00:50:29.348 --> 00:50:30.488
<00:50:29.348>Yeah, <00:50:29.690>I'm <00:50:30.031>currently <00:50:30.374>using

952
00:50:31.288 --> 00:50:35.128
<00:50:31.288>Firecrawl. <00:50:31.638>Well, <00:50:31.988>it <00:50:32.338>does <00:50:32.688>its

953
00:50:35.148 --> 00:50:38.388
<00:50:35.148>job, <00:50:35.348>but <00:50:35.548>it <00:50:35.748>could <00:50:35.948>be <00:50:36.148>better, <00:50:36.348>and <00:50:36.548>I'm

954
00:50:39.168 --> 00:50:42.988
<00:50:39.168>slowly <00:50:39.295>running <00:50:39.422>into <00:50:39.549>issues <00:50:39.677>where <00:50:39.804>I <00:50:39.931>have <00:50:40.058>to <00:50:40.186>rebuild <00:50:40.313>a <00:50:40.440>couple <00:50:40.568>of

955
00:50:43.028 --> 00:50:44.268
<00:50:43.028>things <00:50:44.144>because

956
00:50:45.208 --> 00:50:49.108
<00:50:45.208>getting <00:50:45.335>documentation <00:50:45.462>in <00:50:45.589>GitHub, <00:50:45.717>whatever, <00:50:45.844>for <00:50:45.971>1,000 <00:50:46.098>companies <00:50:46.226>every <00:50:46.353>day <00:50:46.480>is <00:50:46.608>already

957
00:50:49.148 --> 00:50:49.868
<00:50:49.148>a <00:50:49.796>lot.

958
00:50:50.648 --> 00:50:50.888
Mm-hmm.

959
00:50:50.928 --> 00:50:54.528
<00:50:50.928>And <00:50:51.055>there <00:50:51.182>are <00:50:51.309>probably <00:50:51.437>way <00:50:51.564>more <00:50:51.691>companies <00:50:51.818>out <00:50:51.946>there <00:50:52.073>we <00:50:52.200>could <00:50:52.328>add,

960
00:50:55.788 --> 00:50:57.708
<00:50:55.788>and <00:50:55.963>it's <00:50:56.138>just <00:50:56.313>a <00:50:56.488>scaling <00:50:56.663>problem, <00:50:56.838>to <00:50:57.013>be <00:50:57.188>honest.

961
00:50:59.128 --> 00:51:02.628
<00:50:59.128>Mm-hmm. <00:50:59.235>We'll <00:50:59.343>get <00:50:59.451>you <00:50:59.558>introduced <00:50:59.666>to <00:50:59.774>them <00:50:59.881>and <00:50:59.989>see <00:51:00.097>if <00:51:00.204>there <00:51:00.312>can <00:51:00.420>be <00:51:00.528>some

962
00:51:02.688 --> 00:51:06.288
<00:51:02.688>optimization <00:51:02.863>for <00:51:03.038>that <00:51:03.213>one. <00:51:03.388>Will <00:51:03.563>be <00:51:03.738>interesting <00:51:03.913>to <00:51:04.088>see.

963
00:51:06.328 --> 00:51:08.908
<00:51:06.328>Well, <00:51:06.678>that <00:51:07.028>was <00:51:07.378>Smoover, <00:51:07.728>and

964
00:51:08.948 --> 00:51:12.868
<00:51:08.948>let's <00:51:09.064>see <00:51:09.181>if <00:51:09.298>that's <00:51:09.414>going <00:51:09.531>to <00:51:09.647>be <00:51:09.764>the <00:51:09.881>next <00:51:09.998>cloud <00:51:10.114>where <00:51:10.231>people <00:51:10.348>get

965
00:51:12.908 --> 00:51:16.808
<00:51:12.908>super <00:51:13.035>excited <00:51:13.162>and <00:51:13.289>companies <00:51:13.417>are <00:51:13.544>actually <00:51:13.671>going <00:51:13.798>to <00:51:13.926>compare <00:51:14.053>each <00:51:14.180>other <00:51:14.308>and

966
00:51:16.848 --> 00:51:20.568
<00:51:16.848>get <00:51:16.964>excited <00:51:17.081>about <00:51:17.198>it. <00:51:17.314>And <00:51:17.431>it <00:51:17.548>will <00:51:17.664>be <00:51:17.781>fascinating <00:51:17.898>to <00:51:18.014>see, <00:51:18.131>because <00:51:18.248>yeah,

967
00:51:20.648 --> 00:51:24.588
<00:51:20.648>it's <00:51:20.775>hard <00:51:20.902>to <00:51:21.029>measure, <00:51:21.157>as <00:51:21.284>I <00:51:21.411>said, <00:51:21.538>internally, <00:51:21.666>but <00:51:21.793>comparing <00:51:21.920>with <00:51:22.048>each

968
00:51:24.668 --> 00:51:28.398
<00:51:24.668>other <00:51:24.795>will <00:51:24.922>be <00:51:25.049>interesting <00:51:25.177>to <00:51:25.304>see. <00:51:25.431>And <00:51:25.558>it's <00:51:25.686>fascinating <00:51:25.813>to <00:51:25.940>see <00:51:26.068>that

969
00:51:28.428 --> 00:51:30.788
<00:51:28.428>the <00:51:28.583>size <00:51:28.739>thing <00:51:28.894>was <00:51:29.050>the <00:51:29.205>first <00:51:29.361>thing <00:51:29.516>that <00:51:29.672>came <00:51:29.828>up.

970
00:51:30.848 --> 00:51:34.748
<00:51:30.848>Like, <00:51:30.955>okay, <00:51:31.063>these <00:51:31.171>companies <00:51:31.278>are <00:51:31.386>doing <00:51:31.494>a <00:51:31.601>lot, <00:51:31.709>but <00:51:31.817>there <00:51:31.924>are <00:51:32.032>also <00:51:32.140>the <00:51:32.248>companies

971
00:51:34.808 --> 00:51:35.508
<00:51:34.808>that <00:51:35.437>are

972
00:51:37.208 --> 00:51:41.188
<00:51:37.208>native <00:51:37.324>to <00:51:37.441>that <00:51:37.558>environment, <00:51:37.674>whereas <00:51:37.791>others <00:51:37.908>just <00:51:38.024>build <00:51:38.141>a <00:51:38.258>piece <00:51:38.374>of <00:51:38.491>software <00:51:38.608>and

973
00:51:41.328 --> 00:51:45.128
<00:51:41.328>wonder <00:51:41.428>now <00:51:41.528>if <00:51:41.628>DevRel <00:51:41.728>can <00:51:41.828>help <00:51:41.928>them <00:51:42.028>to <00:51:42.128>make <00:51:42.228>it <00:51:42.328>better <00:51:42.428>or <00:51:42.528>to <00:51:42.628>get <00:51:42.728>more

974
00:51:45.168 --> 00:51:48.998
<00:51:45.168>reach, <00:51:45.368>and <00:51:45.568>not <00:51:45.768>get <00:51:45.968>discouraged <00:51:46.168>by <00:51:46.368>not <00:51:46.568>being

975
00:51:49.068 --> 00:51:51.428
<00:51:49.068>able <00:51:49.223>to <00:51:49.379>beat <00:51:49.534>them <00:51:49.690>in <00:51:49.845>terms <00:51:50.001>of <00:51:50.156>numbers <00:51:50.312>that <00:51:50.468>easily.

976
00:51:51.788 --> 00:51:55.108
<00:51:51.788>No, <00:51:51.904>and <00:51:52.021>I <00:51:52.138>think <00:51:52.254>a <00:51:52.371>lot <00:51:52.488>of <00:51:52.604>what <00:51:52.721>I <00:51:52.838>do <00:51:52.954>and <00:51:53.071>what <00:51:53.188>I

977
00:51:55.208 --> 00:51:58.968
<00:51:55.208>showcase <00:51:55.348>with <00:51:55.488>Smoover <00:51:55.628>are <00:51:55.768>things <00:51:55.908>you <00:51:56.048>need <00:51:56.188>to <00:51:56.328>do <00:51:56.468>these <00:51:56.608>days

978
00:51:59.028 --> 00:52:00.468
<00:51:59.028>for <00:51:59.676>AIs <00:52:00.323>anyway.

979
00:52:01.408 --> 00:52:05.208
<00:52:01.408>Like <00:52:01.548>having <00:52:01.688>a <00:52:01.828>proper <00:52:01.968>polished <00:52:02.107>README <00:52:02.248>and <00:52:02.388>having <00:52:02.528>things <00:52:02.668>the <00:52:02.808>AI

980
00:52:05.268 --> 00:52:08.508
<00:52:05.268>can <00:52:05.395>easily <00:52:05.522>ingest <00:52:05.649>is <00:52:05.777>something <00:52:05.904>you <00:52:06.031>need <00:52:06.158>to <00:52:06.286>do <00:52:06.413>anyway <00:52:06.540>to <00:52:06.668>stay

981
00:52:08.568 --> 00:52:11.768
<00:52:08.568>relevant. <00:52:08.684>No <00:52:08.801>longer <00:52:08.918>just <00:52:09.034>for <00:52:09.151>people, <00:52:09.268>you're <00:52:09.384>doing <00:52:09.501>that <00:52:09.618>for <00:52:09.734>AI <00:52:09.851>as <00:52:09.968>well.

982
00:52:12.388 --> 00:52:15.828
<00:52:12.388>Well, <00:52:12.488>a <00:52:12.587>bit <00:52:12.688>like <00:52:12.788>the <00:52:12.888>Chrome <00:52:12.988>DevTools <00:52:13.087>now <00:52:13.188>actually <00:52:13.288>have <00:52:13.388>these <00:52:13.488>features <00:52:13.587>in <00:52:13.688>there <00:52:13.788>as

983
00:52:15.868 --> 00:52:18.988
<00:52:15.868>well <00:52:15.995>of <00:52:16.122>AI <00:52:16.249>readiness. <00:52:16.377>They've <00:52:16.504>just <00:52:16.631>realized <00:52:16.758>that <00:52:16.886>as <00:52:17.013>well, <00:52:17.140>like, <00:52:17.268>okay,

984
00:52:19.428 --> 00:52:23.148
<00:52:19.428>optimizing <00:52:19.555>for <00:52:19.682>speed, <00:52:19.809>optimizing <00:52:19.937>for <00:52:20.064>performance <00:52:20.191>is <00:52:20.318>one <00:52:20.446>thing, <00:52:20.573>but <00:52:20.700>here's <00:52:20.828>the

985
00:52:23.628 --> 00:52:25.968
<00:52:23.628>other <00:52:23.755>bits <00:52:23.882>that <00:52:24.009>you <00:52:24.137>need <00:52:24.264>to <00:52:24.391>do <00:52:24.518>to <00:52:24.646>get <00:52:24.773>that <00:52:24.900>extra <00:52:25.028>mile.

986
00:52:26.548 --> 00:52:28.628
<00:52:26.548>So <00:52:26.723>yeah, <00:52:26.897>I'm <00:52:27.073>very <00:52:27.247>excited <00:52:27.423>about <00:52:27.598>that <00:52:27.772>Coach <00:52:27.948>bit.

987
00:52:28.748 --> 00:52:32.368
<00:52:28.748>I <00:52:28.864>think <00:52:28.981>that's <00:52:29.098>something <00:52:29.214>where <00:52:29.331>there <00:52:29.448>is <00:52:29.564>a <00:52:29.681>real <00:52:29.798>interesting <00:52:29.914>feature <00:52:30.031>in <00:52:30.148>there

988
00:52:32.408 --> 00:52:36.228
<00:52:32.408>because <00:52:32.583>you <00:52:32.758>want <00:52:32.933>people <00:52:33.107>to <00:52:33.283>get <00:52:33.458>a <00:52:33.633>list <00:52:33.808>of

989
00:52:36.868 --> 00:52:40.278
<00:52:36.868>bugs <00:52:37.067>that <00:52:37.268>can <00:52:37.468>be <00:52:37.668>filed <00:52:37.868>immediately <00:52:38.067>to <00:52:38.268>their

990
00:52:40.308 --> 00:52:44.227
<00:52:40.308>GitHub <00:52:40.424>to <00:52:40.541>say, <00:52:40.658>"Hey, <00:52:40.774>here's <00:52:40.891>the <00:52:41.008>five <00:52:41.124>things <00:52:41.241>you <00:52:41.358>could <00:52:41.474>do," <00:52:41.591>or <00:52:41.708>build

991
00:52:44.268 --> 00:52:46.747
<00:52:44.268>an <00:52:44.384>agent <00:52:44.501>to <00:52:44.618>fix <00:52:44.734>it <00:52:44.851>for <00:52:44.968>you. <00:52:45.084>That <00:52:45.201>would <00:52:45.318>be <00:52:45.434>the <00:52:45.551>other <00:52:45.668>thing.

992
00:52:47.548 --> 00:52:49.688
<00:52:47.548>Yeah, <00:52:47.723>I <00:52:47.897>actually <00:52:48.073>have <00:52:48.247>a <00:52:48.423>question <00:52:48.598>for <00:52:48.772>you <00:52:48.948>guys.

993
00:52:49.808 --> 00:52:53.788
<00:52:49.808>When <00:52:49.948>I <00:52:50.088>was <00:52:50.228>working <00:52:50.368>on <00:52:50.508>the <00:52:50.648>Coach, <00:52:50.788>I <00:52:50.928>was <00:52:51.068>thinking <00:52:51.208>about

994
00:52:53.828 --> 00:52:57.508
<00:52:53.828>adding <00:52:53.983>a <00:52:54.139>feature <00:52:54.294>that <00:52:54.450>would <00:52:54.605>pretty <00:52:54.761>much <00:52:54.916>create <00:52:55.072>pull <00:52:55.228>requests

995
00:52:57.548 --> 00:53:00.448
<00:52:57.548>automatically <00:52:57.687>for <00:52:57.828>the <00:52:57.968>things. <00:52:58.107>"Hey, <00:52:58.247>you <00:52:58.388>need <00:52:58.528>to <00:52:58.667>write <00:52:58.808>an <00:52:58.948>example.

996
00:53:00.468 --> 00:53:01.028
<00:53:00.468>Here's <00:53:00.720>a <00:53:00.971>button."

997
00:53:02.088 --> 00:53:02.888
<00:53:02.088>But <00:53:02.268>then <00:53:02.448>I <00:53:02.628>thought, <00:53:02.808>hey,

998
00:53:03.768 --> 00:53:07.508
<00:53:03.768>a <00:53:03.861>lot <00:53:03.954>of <00:53:04.048>what <00:53:04.141>I <00:53:04.234>do <00:53:04.328>is <00:53:04.421>about <00:53:04.514>education, <00:53:04.608>and <00:53:04.701>a <00:53:04.794>lot <00:53:04.888>of <00:53:04.981>that <00:53:05.074>is <00:53:05.168>about

999
00:53:08.008 --> 00:53:11.828
<00:53:08.008>helping <00:53:08.135>people <00:53:08.262>to <00:53:08.389>grow <00:53:08.517>and <00:53:08.644>learn. <00:53:08.771>And <00:53:08.898>when <00:53:09.026>I <00:53:09.153>have <00:53:09.280>buttons <00:53:09.408>doing

1000
00:53:11.848 --> 00:53:13.668
<00:53:11.848>everything <00:53:12.023>for <00:53:12.198>them <00:53:12.373>automatically, <00:53:12.548>they <00:53:12.723>don't <00:53:12.898>learn <00:53:13.073>at <00:53:13.248>all.

1001
00:53:13.708 --> 00:53:17.168
<00:53:13.708>They <00:53:13.815>just <00:53:13.923>have <00:53:14.031>a <00:53:14.138>service <00:53:14.246>doing <00:53:14.354>things <00:53:14.461>for <00:53:14.569>them, <00:53:14.677>and <00:53:14.784>it <00:53:14.892>doesn't <00:53:15.000>improve <00:53:15.108>the

1002
00:53:17.208 --> 00:53:19.468
<00:53:17.208>situation <00:53:17.408>in <00:53:17.608>that <00:53:17.808>sense. <00:53:18.008>So <00:53:18.208>I <00:53:18.408>said <00:53:18.608>no.

1003
00:53:19.748 --> 00:53:23.658
<00:53:19.748>I <00:53:19.875>give <00:53:20.002>them <00:53:20.129>everything <00:53:20.257>they <00:53:20.384>need, <00:53:20.511>all <00:53:20.638>the <00:53:20.766>information, <00:53:20.893>but <00:53:21.020>they <00:53:21.148>still

1004
00:53:23.688 --> 00:53:26.908
<00:53:23.688>have <00:53:23.795>to <00:53:23.903>actually <00:53:24.011>do <00:53:24.118>it <00:53:24.226>themselves. <00:53:24.334>And <00:53:24.441>that <00:53:24.549>was <00:53:24.657>a <00:53:24.764>deliberate <00:53:24.872>decision <00:53:24.980>for <00:53:25.088>now.

1005
00:53:27.568 --> 00:53:31.408
<00:53:27.568>I <00:53:27.668>think <00:53:27.768>that <00:53:27.868>is <00:53:27.968>the <00:53:28.068>right <00:53:28.168>decision <00:53:28.268>to <00:53:28.368>make <00:53:28.468>because <00:53:28.568>it's <00:53:28.668>the <00:53:28.768>same <00:53:28.868>with <00:53:28.968>fix

1006
00:53:31.468 --> 00:53:34.568
<00:53:31.468>all <00:53:31.607>accessibility <00:53:31.748>bugs <00:53:31.888>with <00:53:32.028>one <00:53:32.167>button, <00:53:32.308>which <00:53:32.448>is <00:53:32.587>never <00:53:32.728>the <00:53:32.868>case.

1007
00:53:35.628 --> 00:53:36.268
Yeah.

1008
00:53:36.288 --> 00:53:40.108
<00:53:36.288>Or <00:53:36.443>get <00:53:36.599>all <00:53:36.754>performance <00:53:36.910>done <00:53:37.065>just <00:53:37.221>by <00:53:37.376>pressing <00:53:37.532>this <00:53:37.688>button,

1009
00:53:40.138 --> 00:53:42.488
<00:53:40.138>and <00:53:40.337>this <00:53:40.538>is <00:53:40.738>how <00:53:40.938>we <00:53:41.138>get <00:53:41.337>things <00:53:41.538>like,

1010
00:53:45.148 --> 00:53:48.928
<00:53:45.148>what <00:53:45.264>was <00:53:45.381>the <00:53:45.498>Google <00:53:45.614>thing <00:53:45.731>where <00:53:45.848>it <00:53:45.964>optimized <00:53:46.081>your <00:53:46.198>stuff <00:53:46.314>automatically <00:53:46.431>for <00:53:46.548>mobile

1011
00:53:49.008 --> 00:53:52.468
<00:53:49.008>that <00:53:49.183>then <00:53:49.357>nobody <00:53:49.533>wanted <00:53:49.707>anymore? <00:53:49.883>So <00:53:50.058>yeah, <00:53:50.232>these <00:53:50.408>magical

1012
00:53:52.568 --> 00:53:56.358
<00:53:52.568>solutions <00:53:52.743>are <00:53:52.918>great, <00:53:53.093>but <00:53:53.268>at <00:53:53.443>the <00:53:53.618>same <00:53:53.793>time, <00:53:53.968>they're

1013
00:53:56.408 --> 00:53:58.328
<00:53:56.408>also <00:53:56.641>a <00:53:56.874>lot <00:53:57.107>of <00:53:57.341>times <00:53:57.574>snake <00:53:57.808>oil.

1014
00:53:58.988 --> 00:53:59.038
Mm-hmm.

1015
00:53:59.038 --> 00:54:03.028
<00:53:59.038>And <00:53:59.131>I <00:53:59.224>think <00:53:59.318>the <00:53:59.411>idea <00:53:59.504>that <00:53:59.598>you <00:53:59.691>want <00:53:59.784>to <00:53:59.878>do <00:53:59.971>with <00:54:00.064>that <00:54:00.158>is <00:54:00.251>to <00:54:00.344>get <00:54:00.438>people

1016
00:54:03.038 --> 00:54:06.988
<00:54:03.038>take <00:54:03.193>DevRel <00:54:03.349>serious, <00:54:03.504>and <00:54:03.660>that <00:54:03.815>means <00:54:03.971>they <00:54:04.126>actually <00:54:04.282>have <00:54:04.438>to

1017
00:54:07.008 --> 00:54:10.768
<00:54:07.008>find <00:54:07.115>somebody <00:54:07.223>internally <00:54:07.331>to <00:54:07.438>do <00:54:07.546>it, <00:54:07.654>rather <00:54:07.761>than <00:54:07.869>just <00:54:07.977>have <00:54:08.084>a <00:54:08.192>service <00:54:08.300>automatically <00:54:08.408>do

1018
00:54:10.788 --> 00:54:14.148
<00:54:10.788>it <00:54:10.963>for <00:54:11.138>them. <00:54:11.313>Same <00:54:11.488>with <00:54:11.663>SEO, <00:54:11.838>same <00:54:12.013>with <00:54:12.188>performance,

1019
00:54:16.628 --> 00:54:19.748
<00:54:16.628>speed <00:54:16.728>of <00:54:16.828>your <00:54:16.928>website. <00:54:17.028>It's <00:54:17.128>like, <00:54:17.228>of <00:54:17.328>course, <00:54:17.428>you <00:54:17.528>can <00:54:17.628>do <00:54:17.728>a <00:54:17.828>lot <00:54:17.928>of <00:54:18.028>stuff

1020
00:54:20.188 --> 00:54:23.708
<00:54:20.188>immediately, <00:54:20.343>but <00:54:20.499>I <00:54:20.654>think <00:54:20.810>it <00:54:20.965>makes <00:54:21.121>more <00:54:21.276>sense <00:54:21.432>to <00:54:21.588>have

1021
00:54:23.768 --> 00:54:27.708
<00:54:23.768>somebody <00:54:23.895>internally <00:54:24.022>do <00:54:24.149>that. <00:54:24.277>And <00:54:24.404>I <00:54:24.531>love <00:54:24.658>that <00:54:24.786>you <00:54:24.913>put <00:54:25.040>that <00:54:25.168>extra

1022
00:54:27.728 --> 00:54:30.748
<00:54:27.728>effort <00:54:27.821>in <00:54:27.914>and <00:54:28.008>not <00:54:28.101>just <00:54:28.194>like, <00:54:28.288>"I've <00:54:28.381>built <00:54:28.474>a <00:54:28.568>magical <00:54:28.661>tool <00:54:28.754>to <00:54:28.848>fix <00:54:28.941>it <00:54:29.034>for <00:54:29.128>you."

1023
00:54:31.148 --> 00:54:34.348
<00:54:31.148>It <00:54:31.241>could <00:54:31.334>be <00:54:31.428>an <00:54:31.521>idea, <00:54:31.614>though, <00:54:31.708>on <00:54:31.801>this, <00:54:31.894>Tim, <00:54:31.988>just <00:54:32.081>to <00:54:32.174>say <00:54:32.268>it <00:54:32.361>might <00:54:32.454>be <00:54:32.548>something,

1024
00:54:34.377 --> 00:54:35.708
<00:54:34.377>though, <00:54:34.576>from <00:54:34.776>the <00:54:34.975>organization's <00:54:35.175>point <00:54:35.375>of <00:54:35.574>view.

1025
00:54:36.148 --> 00:54:39.628
<00:54:36.148>You <00:54:36.264>could <00:54:36.381>have <00:54:36.498>a <00:54:36.614>safe <00:54:36.731>mode <00:54:36.848>as <00:54:36.964>default <00:54:37.081>that <00:54:37.198>doesn't <00:54:37.314>let <00:54:37.431>you <00:54:37.548>just

1026
00:54:39.928 --> 00:54:43.308
<00:54:39.928>create <00:54:40.021>all <00:54:40.114>these <00:54:40.208>PRs <00:54:40.301>and <00:54:40.394>things <00:54:40.488>like <00:54:40.581>this, <00:54:40.674>but <00:54:40.768>then <00:54:40.861>they <00:54:40.954>could <00:54:41.048>maybe <00:54:41.141>turn <00:54:41.234>off <00:54:41.328>safe

1027
00:54:43.388 --> 00:54:46.788
<00:54:43.388>mode <00:54:43.488>if <00:54:43.587>they <00:54:43.688>want <00:54:43.788>that <00:54:43.888>automation, <00:54:43.988>because <00:54:44.087>it <00:54:44.188>feels <00:54:44.288>like <00:54:44.388>if <00:54:44.488>you've <00:54:44.587>got <00:54:44.688>the <00:54:44.788>feature

1028
00:54:46.828 --> 00:54:50.588
<00:54:46.828>there, <00:54:46.921>or <00:54:47.014>maybe <00:54:47.108>it <00:54:47.201>could <00:54:47.294>be <00:54:47.388>useful, <00:54:47.481>but <00:54:47.574>it <00:54:47.668>would <00:54:47.761>be <00:54:47.854>good, <00:54:47.948>maybe <00:54:48.041>not <00:54:48.134>like <00:54:48.228>you're

1029
00:54:50.608 --> 00:54:53.968
<00:54:50.608>saying, <00:54:50.708>not <00:54:50.808>as <00:54:50.908>default. <00:54:51.008>I <00:54:51.108>think <00:54:51.208>as <00:54:51.308>default <00:54:51.408>they <00:54:51.508>need <00:54:51.608>to <00:54:51.708>learn <00:54:51.808>or <00:54:51.908>at <00:54:52.008>least

1030
00:54:54.408 --> 00:54:54.828
<00:54:54.408>know <00:54:54.786>the

1031
00:54:55.788 --> 00:54:57.208
<00:54:55.788>downsides <00:54:56.107>to <00:54:56.427>turning <00:54:56.746>that <00:54:57.066>off.

1032
00:54:58.048 --> 00:55:01.728
<00:54:58.048>Yeah. <00:54:58.155>And <00:54:58.263>if <00:54:58.371>it's <00:54:58.478>just <00:54:58.586>like <00:54:58.694>you <00:54:58.801>have <00:54:58.909>no <00:54:59.017>README, <00:54:59.124>and <00:54:59.232>then <00:54:59.340>the <00:54:59.448>button

1033
00:55:01.768 --> 00:55:05.648
<00:55:01.768>creates <00:55:01.884>a <00:55:02.001>README <00:55:02.118>that <00:55:02.234>is <00:55:02.351>auto-generated, <00:55:02.468>that <00:55:02.584>is <00:55:02.701>not <00:55:02.818>a <00:55:02.934>README, <00:55:03.051>but <00:55:03.168>it's

1034
00:55:05.728 --> 00:55:09.458
<00:55:05.728>just <00:55:05.903>a <00:55:06.078>text <00:55:06.253>me. <00:55:06.428>So <00:55:06.603>that's <00:55:06.778>not <00:55:06.953>helpful <00:55:07.128>either

1035
00:55:09.568 --> 00:55:09.728
then.

1036
00:55:09.788 --> 00:55:11.808
<00:55:09.788>Yeah. <00:55:10.488>Index <00:55:11.188>me.

1037
00:55:11.868 --> 00:55:13.468
<00:55:11.868>Yeah. <00:55:12.067>That's <00:55:12.268>the <00:55:12.468>point. <00:55:12.668>A <00:55:12.868>lot <00:55:13.067>of <00:55:13.268>that,

1038
00:55:14.488 --> 00:55:15.718
<00:55:14.488>I <00:55:14.709>think <00:55:14.930>you'd <00:55:15.152>still <00:55:15.373>have <00:55:15.595>to

1039
00:55:16.628 --> 00:55:20.548
<00:55:16.628>either <00:55:16.755>write <00:55:16.882>yourself <00:55:17.009>or <00:55:17.137>at <00:55:17.264>least <00:55:17.391>invest <00:55:17.518>some <00:55:17.646>time <00:55:17.773>in <00:55:17.900>having <00:55:18.028>an

1040
00:55:20.808 --> 00:55:24.568
<00:55:20.808>AI <00:55:20.963>generate <00:55:21.119>it <00:55:21.274>properly <00:55:21.430>in <00:55:21.585>your <00:55:21.741>brand <00:55:21.896>tone <00:55:22.052>or <00:55:22.208>whatever.

1041
00:55:24.628 --> 00:55:28.508
<00:55:24.628>Cool. <00:55:24.744>Well, <00:55:24.861>we're <00:55:24.978>at <00:55:25.094>the <00:55:25.211>end <00:55:25.328>of <00:55:25.444>the <00:55:25.561>hour. <00:55:25.678>This <00:55:25.794>was <00:55:25.911>interesting <00:55:26.028>enough.

1042
00:55:29.428 --> 00:55:31.788
<00:55:29.428>Any <00:55:29.603>last <00:55:29.778>words, <00:55:29.953>Tim, <00:55:30.127>for <00:55:30.303>the <00:55:30.478>audience <00:55:30.653>out <00:55:30.828>there?

1043
00:55:31.888 --> 00:55:34.948
<00:55:31.888>Anything <00:55:32.004>you <00:55:32.121>want <00:55:32.238>to <00:55:32.354>get <00:55:32.471>off <00:55:32.587>your <00:55:32.704>chest <00:55:32.821>to <00:55:32.938>talk <00:55:33.054>to <00:55:33.171>people <00:55:33.288>about?

1044
00:55:35.388 --> 00:55:36.628
<00:55:35.388>Looking <00:55:35.946>forward <00:55:36.504>to

1045
00:55:38.088 --> 00:55:38.428
Berlin.

1046
00:55:38.928 --> 00:55:42.288
<00:55:38.928>Yes, <00:55:39.103>me <00:55:39.278>too. <00:55:39.453>Also, <00:55:39.627>code <00:55:39.803>100, <00:55:39.978>we <00:55:40.153>still <00:55:40.328>need

1047
00:55:42.368 --> 00:55:46.148
<00:55:42.368>competitors, <00:55:42.523>so <00:55:42.679>please <00:55:42.834>fill <00:55:42.990>that <00:55:43.145>form <00:55:43.301>and <00:55:43.456>come <00:55:43.612>down <00:55:43.768>there.

1048
00:55:46.268 --> 00:55:50.008
<00:55:46.268>So <00:55:46.384>we're <00:55:46.501>going <00:55:46.618>to <00:55:46.734>push <00:55:46.851>that <00:55:46.968>again <00:55:47.084>soon <00:55:47.201>on <00:55:47.318>our <00:55:47.434>social <00:55:47.551>media <00:55:47.668>platforms.

1049
00:55:50.048 --> 00:55:50.268
Because

1050
00:55:51.208 --> 00:55:55.168
<00:55:51.208>right <00:55:51.315>now <00:55:51.423>we've <00:55:51.531>got <00:55:51.638>four <00:55:51.746>people, <00:55:51.854>and <00:55:51.961>that's <00:55:52.069>not <00:55:52.177>enough, <00:55:52.284>but <00:55:52.392>we <00:55:52.500>need <00:55:52.608>32

1051
00:55:55.228 --> 00:55:59.068
<00:55:55.228>at <00:55:55.368>least. <00:55:55.508>But <00:55:55.648>I'm <00:55:55.788>quite <00:55:55.928>sure <00:55:56.068>given <00:55:56.208>that <00:55:56.348>there's <00:55:56.488>something <00:55:56.628>that's

1052
00:55:59.128 --> 00:56:03.108
<00:55:59.128>coming <00:55:59.244>and <00:55:59.361>cooking <00:55:59.478>in <00:55:59.594>the <00:55:59.711>background <00:55:59.828>from <00:55:59.944>our <00:56:00.061>friends <00:56:00.178>at <00:56:00.294>NVIDIA <00:56:00.411>and <00:56:00.528>maybe

1053
00:56:03.148 --> 00:56:07.028
<00:56:03.148>AWS <00:56:03.275>as <00:56:03.402>well. <00:56:03.529>So <00:56:03.657>it <00:56:03.784>makes <00:56:03.911>it <00:56:04.038>more <00:56:04.166>interesting <00:56:04.293>to <00:56:04.420>become <00:56:04.548>a

1054
00:56:07.048 --> 00:56:09.508
<00:56:07.048>code <00:56:07.281>100 <00:56:07.514>challenger <00:56:07.747>in <00:56:07.981>the <00:56:08.214>near <00:56:08.448>future.

1055
00:56:09.518 --> 00:56:13.088
<00:56:09.518>And <00:56:09.673>yeah, <00:56:09.829>I <00:56:09.984>guess <00:56:10.140>that's <00:56:10.295>it <00:56:10.451>from <00:56:10.606>us <00:56:10.762>for <00:56:10.918>today.

1056
00:56:13.308 --> 00:56:13.328
I

1057
00:56:14.268 --> 00:56:17.788
<00:56:14.268>just <00:56:14.443>realized <00:56:14.618>one <00:56:14.793>thing <00:56:14.968>the <00:56:15.143>other <00:56:15.318>day <00:56:15.493>that <00:56:15.668>Hyphenated

1058
00:56:18.248 --> 00:56:21.748
<00:56:18.248>doesn't <00:56:18.364>have <00:56:18.481>a <00:56:18.598>hyphen <00:56:18.714>in <00:56:18.831>it, <00:56:18.948>but <00:56:19.064>non-hyphenated <00:56:19.181>has <00:56:19.298>a <00:56:19.414>hyphen <00:56:19.531>in <00:56:19.648>it.

1059
00:56:22.048 --> 00:56:25.848
<00:56:22.048>Oh, <00:56:22.147>love <00:56:22.247>that. <00:56:22.348>I <00:56:22.448>love <00:56:22.548>that. <00:56:22.647>Only <00:56:22.747>you <00:56:22.848>would <00:56:22.948>realize <00:56:23.048>that, <00:56:23.147>Chris, <00:56:23.247>but <00:56:23.348>it's <00:56:23.448>brilliant.

1060
00:56:25.888 --> 00:56:26.468
<00:56:25.888>I'm <00:56:26.062>glad <00:56:26.236>you <00:56:26.410>did.

1061
00:56:27.548 --> 00:56:31.488
<00:56:27.548>Nothing <00:56:27.687>is <00:56:27.828>real, <00:56:27.968>and <00:56:28.107>everything <00:56:28.247>is <00:56:28.388>a <00:56:28.528>lie. <00:56:28.667>Thanks <00:56:28.808>very <00:56:28.948>much.

1062
00:56:31.728 --> 00:56:34.848
<00:56:31.728>And <00:56:31.835>this <00:56:31.943>was <00:56:32.051>We <00:56:32.158>Are <00:56:32.266>Developers <00:56:32.374>Live <00:56:32.481>for <00:56:32.589>today. <00:56:32.697>See <00:56:32.804>you <00:56:32.912>soon. <00:56:33.020>Bye <00:56:33.128>bye.

1063
00:56:35.348 --> 00:56:36.658
<00:56:35.348>See <00:56:35.937>you. <00:56:36.527>Bye.