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371
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<00:15:39.525>the <00:15:39.759>way <00:15:39.993>up <00:15:40.227>until <00:15:40.461>today.

372
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<00:15:41.385>And <00:15:41.512>in <00:15:41.639>these <00:15:41.766>years <00:15:41.894>I've <00:15:42.021>managed <00:15:42.148>to <00:15:42.275>work <00:15:42.403>on <00:15:42.530>about <00:15:42.657>50 <00:15:42.785>games,

373
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<00:15:44.455>everything <00:15:44.655>from <00:15:44.855>Wizardry, <00:15:45.055>which <00:15:45.255>I've <00:15:45.455>just <00:15:45.655>talked <00:15:45.855>about,

374
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<00:15:47.065>to <00:15:47.220>Dungeons <00:15:47.376>and <00:15:47.531>Dragons, <00:15:47.687>to <00:15:47.842>Def <00:15:47.998>Jam <00:15:48.153>to <00:15:48.309>Ghost <00:15:48.465>Recon.

375
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<00:15:50.505>And <00:15:50.660>I've <00:15:50.816>made <00:15:50.971>games <00:15:51.127>at <00:15:51.282>this <00:15:51.438>point <00:15:51.593>on <00:15:51.749>everything <00:15:51.905>from,

376
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<00:15:53.485>I <00:15:53.660>guess <00:15:53.835>the <00:15:54.010>tabletop, <00:15:54.185>quite <00:15:54.360>literally <00:15:54.535>board <00:15:54.710>games, <00:15:54.885>uh,

377
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<00:15:56.445>to <00:15:56.572>the <00:15:56.699>Apple <00:15:56.826>two, <00:15:56.954>all <00:15:57.081>the <00:15:57.208>way <00:15:57.335>up <00:15:57.463>to <00:15:57.590>PS <00:15:57.717>five <00:15:57.845>and,

378
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<00:15:59.385>and <00:15:59.775>Xbox <00:16:00.165>Series <00:16:00.555>X.

379
00:16:00.825 --> 00:16:02.565
<00:16:00.825>Um, <00:16:01.105>uh, <00:16:01.385>and <00:16:01.665>even <00:16:01.945>the <00:16:02.225>Switch.

380
00:16:03.465 --> 00:16:05.965
<00:16:03.465>And <00:16:03.640>when <00:16:03.815>I <00:16:03.990>first <00:16:04.165>got <00:16:04.340>started <00:16:04.515>in <00:16:04.690>games, <00:16:04.865>um,

381
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<00:16:06.195>they <00:16:06.335>were <00:16:06.475>a <00:16:06.615>hobby, <00:16:06.755>uh, <00:16:06.895>and <00:16:07.035>people <00:16:07.175>called <00:16:07.315>them <00:16:07.455>a <00:16:07.595>fad.

382
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<00:16:09.425>And <00:16:09.694>I <00:16:09.964>remember <00:16:10.234>coming <00:16:10.505>to <00:16:10.775>college

383
00:16:11.305 --> 00:16:14.285
<00:16:11.305>and <00:16:11.444>thinking <00:16:11.584>that <00:16:11.724>I <00:16:11.864>needed <00:16:12.005>to <00:16:12.145>get <00:16:12.285>coming <00:16:12.425>out <00:16:12.564>of <00:16:12.704>college

384
00:16:14.345 --> 00:16:16.805
<00:16:14.345>and <00:16:14.485>thinking, <00:16:14.625>you <00:16:14.765>know, <00:16:14.905>I <00:16:15.045>need <00:16:15.185>to <00:16:15.325>get <00:16:15.465>a <00:16:15.605>real <00:16:15.745>job.

385
00:16:16.985 --> 00:16:18.845
<00:16:16.985>And <00:16:17.185>it <00:16:17.385>never <00:16:17.585>occurred <00:16:17.785>to <00:16:17.985>me, <00:16:18.185>believe <00:16:18.385>it

386
00:16:18.845 --> 00:16:20.205
<00:16:18.845>or <00:16:19.049>not, <00:16:19.253>that <00:16:19.457>I <00:16:19.661>already <00:16:19.865>had <00:16:20.069>one.

387
00:16:20.205 --> 00:16:23.605
<00:16:20.205>So <00:16:20.345>if <00:16:20.485>you <00:16:20.625>remember, <00:16:20.765>I <00:16:20.905>got <00:16:21.045>into, <00:16:21.185>I <00:16:21.325>got <00:16:21.465>into, <00:16:21.605>um,

388
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<00:16:24.305>CEC <00:16:24.432>when <00:16:24.559>I <00:16:24.686>was <00:16:24.814>15, <00:16:24.941>so <00:16:25.068>I <00:16:25.195>was <00:16:25.323>still <00:16:25.450>in <00:16:25.577>high <00:16:25.704>school.

389
00:16:26.505 --> 00:16:28.565
<00:16:26.505>So <00:16:26.621>when <00:16:26.738>it <00:16:26.855>came <00:16:26.971>time <00:16:27.088>to <00:16:27.205>go <00:16:27.321>to <00:16:27.438>college, <00:16:27.555>I <00:16:27.671>thought, <00:16:27.788>you <00:16:27.905>know,

390
00:16:28.565 --> 00:16:29.845
<00:16:28.565>maybe <00:16:28.795>I <00:16:29.025>wanna <00:16:29.256>be <00:16:29.486>an <00:16:29.717>accountant.

391
00:16:29.845 --> 00:16:34.125
<00:16:29.845>Maybe <00:16:29.972>it <00:16:30.099>had <00:16:30.226>it, <00:16:30.354>it <00:16:30.481>was <00:16:30.608>just, <00:16:30.735>it <00:16:30.863>was <00:16:30.990>just <00:16:31.117>oddly <00:16:31.245>enough,

392
00:16:34.125 --> 00:16:36.245
<00:16:34.125>maybe <00:16:34.300>partly <00:16:34.475>because <00:16:34.650>I <00:16:34.825>was <00:16:35.000>in <00:16:35.175>northern <00:16:35.350>New <00:16:35.525>York.

393
00:16:36.385 --> 00:16:39.605
<00:16:36.385>So, <00:16:36.525>um, <00:16:36.665>you <00:16:36.805>know, <00:16:36.944>the <00:16:37.085>biggest <00:16:37.225>industry <00:16:37.365>there <00:16:37.505>was <00:16:37.645>dairy, <00:16:37.785>uh,

394
00:16:39.605 --> 00:16:40.685
<00:16:39.605>and <00:16:40.091>not <00:16:40.577>computers.

395
00:16:40.745 --> 00:16:43.085
<00:16:40.745>And <00:16:40.920>so <00:16:41.095>it <00:16:41.270>was <00:16:41.445>hard <00:16:41.620>for <00:16:41.795>me <00:16:41.970>to <00:16:42.145>see

396
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<00:16:43.235>what <00:16:43.515>was <00:16:43.795>really <00:16:44.075>on <00:16:44.355>the <00:16:44.635>horizon.

397
00:16:45.545 --> 00:16:48.805
<00:16:45.545>Um, <00:16:45.672>and <00:16:45.799>so <00:16:45.926>I, <00:16:46.054>when <00:16:46.181>I <00:16:46.308>got <00:16:46.435>outta <00:16:46.563>college, <00:16:46.690>I <00:16:46.817>really <00:16:46.944>thought,

398
00:16:48.805 --> 00:16:50.605
<00:16:48.805>you <00:16:48.979>know, <00:16:49.155>I <00:16:49.329>needed <00:16:49.505>to <00:16:49.680>get <00:16:49.854>a <00:16:50.030>real <00:16:50.204>job.

399
00:16:50.785 --> 00:16:53.925
<00:16:50.785>Um, <00:16:50.912>but <00:16:51.039>the <00:16:51.166>reality <00:16:51.294>is, <00:16:51.421>is <00:16:51.548>I <00:16:51.675>didn't <00:16:51.803>get <00:16:51.930>a <00:16:52.057>different <00:16:52.185>job.

400
00:16:54.205 --> 00:16:56.525
<00:16:54.205>I <00:16:54.360>went, <00:16:54.516>uh, <00:16:54.671>when <00:16:54.827>I <00:16:54.982>came <00:16:55.138>outta <00:16:55.293>college, <00:16:55.449>I <00:16:55.605>interviewed

401
00:16:56.525 --> 00:16:58.925
<00:16:56.525>with <00:16:56.758>IBM, <00:16:56.991>um, <00:16:57.225>in <00:16:57.458>several <00:16:57.691>other <00:16:57.925>places,

402
00:16:59.025 --> 00:17:01.285
<00:16:59.025>but <00:16:59.180>IBM <00:16:59.336>is <00:16:59.491>a <00:16:59.647>place <00:16:59.802>I <00:16:59.958>really <00:17:00.113>wanted <00:17:00.269>to <00:17:00.425>go.

403
00:17:01.865 --> 00:17:04.565
<00:17:01.865>And <00:17:02.020>they <00:17:02.176>told <00:17:02.331>me <00:17:02.487>I <00:17:02.642>would <00:17:02.798>be <00:17:02.953>revising <00:17:03.109>dos <00:17:03.265>manuals,

404
00:17:04.565 --> 00:17:06.485
<00:17:04.565>and <00:17:04.765>I <00:17:04.965>thought, <00:17:05.165>I <00:17:05.365>don't <00:17:05.565>wanna <00:17:05.765>do <00:17:05.965>that.

405
00:17:06.645 --> 00:17:08.365
<00:17:06.645>I <00:17:06.800>don't, <00:17:06.956>I <00:17:07.111>didn't <00:17:07.267>go <00:17:07.422>through <00:17:07.578>four <00:17:07.733>years <00:17:07.889>of <00:17:08.045>college

406
00:17:08.385 --> 00:17:09.605
<00:17:08.385>to <00:17:08.751>revise <00:17:09.117>dos <00:17:09.483>manuals.

407
00:17:09.625 --> 00:17:12.085
<00:17:09.625>And <00:17:09.765>now <00:17:09.905>the <00:17:10.045>interesting <00:17:10.185>thing <00:17:10.325>about <00:17:10.464>it <00:17:10.605>is <00:17:10.744>I'm <00:17:10.885>sure <00:17:11.025>they're

408
00:17:12.085 --> 00:17:14.125
<00:17:12.085>like, <00:17:12.285>that's <00:17:12.485>probably <00:17:12.685>actually <00:17:12.885>a <00:17:13.085>very <00:17:13.285>fulfilling <00:17:13.485>job

409
00:17:14.185 --> 00:17:16.005
<00:17:14.185>for <00:17:14.385>many <00:17:14.585>pe <00:17:14.784>obviously <00:17:14.984>it's <00:17:15.185>a <00:17:15.385>fulfilling <00:17:15.585>job.

410
00:17:16.045 --> 00:17:17.805
<00:17:16.045>I <00:17:16.325>enjoy <00:17:16.605>writing, <00:17:16.885>but <00:17:17.165>for <00:17:17.445>me,

411
00:17:18.375 --> 00:17:21.085
<00:17:18.375>games <00:17:18.575>already <00:17:18.775>well <00:17:18.974>had <00:17:19.175>their <00:17:19.375>hooks <00:17:19.575>into <00:17:19.775>be,

412
00:17:21.225 --> 00:17:22.685
<00:17:21.224>and <00:17:21.444>that's <00:17:21.663>what <00:17:21.881>I <00:17:22.100>wanted <00:17:22.319>to <00:17:22.539>do.

413
00:17:22.785 --> 00:17:25.365
<00:17:22.785>And <00:17:23.018>so <00:17:23.251>instead <00:17:23.485>of <00:17:23.718>going <00:17:23.951>to <00:17:24.185>IBM

414
00:17:25.365 --> 00:17:28.125
<00:17:25.365>or <00:17:25.481>any <00:17:25.598>of <00:17:25.714>the <00:17:25.831>other <00:17:25.948>places <00:17:26.065>that <00:17:26.181>I <00:17:26.298>had <00:17:26.415>an <00:17:26.531>opportunity <00:17:26.648>to <00:17:26.765>go

415
00:17:28.125 --> 00:17:30.605
<00:17:28.125>to, <00:17:28.325>I <00:17:28.525>just <00:17:28.725>decided <00:17:28.925>to <00:17:29.125>stay <00:17:29.325>at <00:17:29.525>CEC

416
00:17:30.605 --> 00:17:31.685
<00:17:30.605>and <00:17:30.848>just <00:17:31.091>kept <00:17:31.334>making <00:17:31.577>games.

417
00:17:32.565 --> 00:17:34.185
<00:17:32.565>And <00:17:32.765>today <00:17:32.965>is, <00:17:33.165>I'm <00:17:33.365>sure <00:17:33.565>you <00:17:33.765>well <00:17:33.965>know,

418
00:17:34.185 --> 00:17:35.785
<00:17:34.185>games <00:17:34.534>are <00:17:34.885>a <00:17:35.235>huge <00:17:35.585>market,

419
00:17:35.885 --> 00:17:38.145
<00:17:35.885>and <00:17:36.118>they <00:17:36.351>are <00:17:36.585>the <00:17:36.818>most <00:17:37.051>popular <00:17:37.285>form

420
00:17:38.305 --> 00:17:39.625
<00:17:38.305>of <00:17:38.602>culture <00:17:38.899>among <00:17:39.196>our <00:17:39.493>youth.

421
00:17:39.685 --> 00:17:41.865
<00:17:39.685>And <00:17:39.840>in <00:17:39.996>fact, <00:17:40.151>they, <00:17:40.307>if <00:17:40.462>you <00:17:40.618>add <00:17:40.773>'em <00:17:40.929>all <00:17:41.085>together,

422
00:17:41.915 --> 00:17:44.225
<00:17:41.915>games <00:17:42.115>make <00:17:42.315>more <00:17:42.514>money <00:17:42.715>than <00:17:42.915>film, <00:17:43.115>tv, <00:17:43.315>radio,

423
00:17:44.485 --> 00:17:45.585
<00:17:44.485>and <00:17:44.980>books <00:17:45.475>combined.

424
00:17:46.045 --> 00:17:47.585
<00:17:46.045>Um, <00:17:46.276>and <00:17:46.507>for <00:17:46.738>those <00:17:46.969>of <00:17:47.200>you <00:17:47.431>thinking,

425
00:17:47.705 --> 00:17:49.605
<00:17:47.705>I <00:17:47.860>might <00:17:48.016>like <00:17:48.171>a <00:17:48.327>career <00:17:48.482>in <00:17:48.638>games, <00:17:48.793>it <00:17:48.949>sounds <00:17:49.105>like,

426
00:17:49.745 --> 00:17:51.205
<00:17:49.745>uh, <00:17:50.183>it's <00:17:50.620>also <00:17:51.059>good.

427
00:17:51.345 --> 00:17:52.525
<00:17:51.345>It <00:17:51.557>sounds <00:17:51.769>like <00:17:51.982>a <00:17:52.194>good <00:17:52.407>industry.

428
00:17:52.945 --> 00:17:56.575
<00:17:52.945>Um, <00:17:53.085>it's <00:17:53.225>also <00:17:53.365>good <00:17:53.504>to <00:17:53.645>know <00:17:53.784>that, <00:17:53.925>you <00:17:54.064>know, <00:17:54.205>game <00:17:54.345>salaries,

429
00:17:56.635 --> 00:17:59.455
<00:17:56.635>uh, <00:17:56.810>for <00:17:56.985>starting <00:17:57.160>coders, <00:17:57.335>uh, <00:17:57.510>tend <00:17:57.685>to <00:17:57.860>be, <00:17:58.035>tend

430
00:17:59.455 --> 00:18:01.415
<00:17:59.455>to <00:17:59.629>be <00:17:59.804>on <00:17:59.980>the <00:18:00.155>high <00:18:00.330>side, <00:18:00.504>I'd <00:18:00.679>say <00:18:00.855>overall.

431
00:18:01.795 --> 00:18:03.295
<00:18:01.795>Um, <00:18:02.020>and, <00:18:02.245>and <00:18:02.470>go <00:18:02.695>up <00:18:02.920>from <00:18:03.145>there.

432
00:18:03.595 --> 00:18:05.535
<00:18:03.595>Um, <00:18:03.795>and <00:18:03.995>there's <00:18:04.195>another <00:18:04.395>part <00:18:04.595>of <00:18:04.795>my <00:18:04.995>story,

433
00:18:05.995 --> 00:18:07.575
<00:18:05.995>but <00:18:06.228>we'll <00:18:06.461>come <00:18:06.695>back <00:18:06.928>to <00:18:07.161>that <00:18:07.395>after.

434
00:18:07.835 --> 00:18:10.055
<00:18:07.835>So <00:18:08.010>let's <00:18:08.185>take <00:18:08.360>a <00:18:08.535>look <00:18:08.710>at <00:18:08.885>what's <00:18:09.060>your <00:18:09.235>story.

435
00:18:10.155 --> 00:18:12.415
<00:18:10.155>Now, <00:18:10.310>obviously <00:18:10.466>that's <00:18:10.621>hard <00:18:10.777>to <00:18:10.932>do <00:18:11.088>in <00:18:11.243>a <00:18:11.399>digital <00:18:11.555>space,

436
00:18:12.555 --> 00:18:16.455
<00:18:12.555>but, <00:18:12.682>um, <00:18:12.809>there's <00:18:12.936>a <00:18:13.064>huge <00:18:13.191>range <00:18:13.318>of <00:18:13.445>gamers <00:18:13.573>that <00:18:13.700>are <00:18:13.827>out <00:18:13.955>there.

437
00:18:16.635 --> 00:18:19.015
<00:18:16.635>And <00:18:16.810>when <00:18:16.985>I <00:18:17.160>talk <00:18:17.335>to <00:18:17.510>people <00:18:17.685>inevitably <00:18:17.860>tell <00:18:18.035>me

438
00:18:19.405 --> 00:18:21.215
<00:18:19.405>that <00:18:19.605>they <00:18:19.805>either <00:18:20.004>play <00:18:20.205>a <00:18:20.405>ton <00:18:20.605>of <00:18:20.805>games

439
00:18:21.315 --> 00:18:22.735
<00:18:21.315>or <00:18:21.634>they <00:18:21.954>haven't <00:18:22.273>played, <00:18:22.592>uh,

440
00:18:22.735 --> 00:18:24.135
<00:18:22.735>they <00:18:22.945>don't <00:18:23.155>play <00:18:23.365>games <00:18:23.575>at <00:18:23.784>all <00:18:23.995>whatsoever.

441
00:18:24.275 --> 00:18:27.135
<00:18:24.275>And <00:18:24.508>sometimes <00:18:24.741>their <00:18:24.975>last <00:18:25.208>game <00:18:25.441>is <00:18:25.675>Pong.

442
00:18:27.435 --> 00:18:29.895
<00:18:27.435>Um, <00:18:27.784>or <00:18:28.135>the <00:18:28.485>1993 <00:18:28.835>Doom.

443
00:18:30.015 --> 00:18:31.615
<00:18:30.015>I <00:18:30.190>know <00:18:30.365>a <00:18:30.540>load <00:18:30.715>of <00:18:30.890>people <00:18:31.065>have <00:18:31.240>played <00:18:31.415>that.

444
00:18:31.915 --> 00:18:34.295
<00:18:31.915>Um, <00:18:32.115>and <00:18:32.315>sometimes <00:18:32.514>people <00:18:32.715>might <00:18:32.915>say, <00:18:33.115>you <00:18:33.315>know,

445
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<00:18:34.355>I'm <00:18:34.602>not <00:18:34.850>actually <00:18:35.097>a <00:18:35.345>gamer,

446
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447
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448
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449
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450
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451
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<00:18:42.355>And <00:18:42.635>that <00:18:42.915>they're <00:18:43.195>also <00:18:43.475>gamers, <00:18:43.755>right?

452
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453
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454
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455
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<00:18:51.515>who <00:18:51.795>just <00:18:52.075>enjoy <00:18:52.355>games <00:18:52.635>are <00:18:52.915>gamers,

456
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457
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<00:18:56.695>more <00:18:57.181>casual <00:18:57.667>experience.

458
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459
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460
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<00:19:02.575>and <00:19:02.730>early <00:19:02.886>twenties, <00:19:03.041>man, <00:19:03.197>I <00:19:03.352>loved, <00:19:03.508>like, <00:19:03.663>here's <00:19:03.819>the <00:19:03.975>weekend,

461
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<00:19:05.955>man, <00:19:06.235>I'm <00:19:06.514>gonna <00:19:06.794>be <00:19:07.074>playing <00:19:07.355>whatever

462
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<00:19:08.095>game <00:19:08.269>I <00:19:08.443>was <00:19:08.617>into <00:19:08.791>at <00:19:08.965>the <00:19:09.139>time.

463
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464
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<00:19:12.335>or <00:19:12.659>age <00:19:12.983>of <00:19:13.307>empires.

465
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<00:19:13.835>Um, <00:19:13.962>uh, <00:19:14.089>and <00:19:14.216>you <00:19:14.344>know, <00:19:14.471>now <00:19:14.598>mom, <00:19:14.725>four <00:19:14.853>kids <00:19:14.980>running <00:19:15.107>a <00:19:15.235>company.

466
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<00:19:18.095>I <00:19:18.329>don't <00:19:18.563>have <00:19:18.797>a <00:19:19.031>weekend.

467
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<00:19:19.295>I <00:19:19.450>don't <00:19:19.606>sit <00:19:19.761>at <00:19:19.917>my <00:19:20.072>computer <00:19:20.228>all <00:19:20.383>weekend <00:19:20.539>playing <00:19:20.695>games.

468
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<00:19:21.995>So <00:19:22.195>I <00:19:22.395>absolutely <00:19:22.594>love <00:19:22.794>playing <00:19:22.995>mobile <00:19:23.195>games <00:19:23.395>now.

469
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<00:19:25.915>And <00:19:26.148>the <00:19:26.381>game <00:19:26.615>audience <00:19:26.848>is <00:19:27.081>actually <00:19:27.315>pretty

470
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<00:19:28.185>broad, <00:19:28.434>as <00:19:28.684>you <00:19:28.934>can <00:19:29.184>see.

471
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<00:19:29.435>Um, <00:19:29.610>while <00:19:29.784>people <00:19:29.960>think <00:19:30.135>it's, <00:19:30.310>I <00:19:30.485>guess, <00:19:30.659>you <00:19:30.835>know,

472
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<00:19:31.575>young <00:19:31.750>men <00:19:31.925>in <00:19:32.100>their <00:19:32.275>parents' <00:19:32.450>basement <00:19:32.625>playing <00:19:32.800>games, <00:19:32.975>um,

473
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<00:19:34.555>the <00:19:34.710>demographics <00:19:34.866>of <00:19:35.021>games, <00:19:35.177>you <00:19:35.332>know, <00:19:35.488>they <00:19:35.643>only <00:19:35.799>represent <00:19:35.955>21%

474
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<00:19:38.555>of <00:19:39.104>overall <00:19:39.653>gamers.

475
00:19:40.395 --> 00:19:43.215
<00:19:40.395>Um, <00:19:40.550>and <00:19:40.706>here's <00:19:40.861>a <00:19:41.017>question <00:19:41.172>just <00:19:41.328>to <00:19:41.483>think <00:19:41.639>about, <00:19:41.795>uh,

476
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<00:19:43.275>before <00:19:43.475>I <00:19:43.675>go <00:19:43.875>to <00:19:44.075>the <00:19:44.275>next <00:19:44.475>slide, <00:19:44.675>I,

477
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<00:19:45.235>I'm <00:19:45.514>often <00:19:45.794>curious <00:19:46.074>if <00:19:46.354>you <00:19:46.635>think,

478
00:19:47.315 --> 00:19:50.335
<00:19:47.315>who <00:19:47.515>do <00:19:47.715>you <00:19:47.915>think <00:19:48.115>owns <00:19:48.315>the <00:19:48.515>most <00:19:48.715>consoles?

479
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<00:19:51.385>Um, <00:19:51.665>and <00:19:51.945>the <00:19:52.225>next <00:19:52.504>thing <00:19:52.785>is,

480
00:19:53.585 --> 00:19:55.645
<00:19:53.585>who <00:19:53.785>do <00:19:53.985>you <00:19:54.185>think <00:19:54.385>plays <00:19:54.585>the <00:19:54.785>most <00:19:54.985>games?

481
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<00:19:55.745>And <00:19:55.945>this <00:19:56.145>is <00:19:56.344>from <00:19:56.544>a <00:19:56.745>demographics <00:19:56.945>perspective, <00:19:57.145>right?

482
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<00:19:58.865>And <00:19:59.020>the <00:19:59.176>interesting <00:19:59.331>answer <00:19:59.487>is, <00:19:59.642>people <00:19:59.798>who <00:19:59.953>identify <00:20:00.109>as <00:20:00.265>women,

483
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<00:20:02.545>um, <00:20:02.825>own <00:20:03.105>the <00:20:03.385>most <00:20:03.665>consoles <00:20:03.945>actually,

484
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<00:20:05.025>and <00:20:05.258>Hispanic <00:20:05.491>people <00:20:05.725>play <00:20:05.958>the <00:20:06.191>most <00:20:06.425>games.

485
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<00:20:07.905>And <00:20:08.080>this <00:20:08.254>comes <00:20:08.430>as <00:20:08.605>no <00:20:08.780>surprise <00:20:08.955>to <00:20:09.129>me, <00:20:09.305>given

486
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<00:20:11.115>that <00:20:11.290>my <00:20:11.465>husband <00:20:11.640>is <00:20:11.815>Hispanic <00:20:11.990>and <00:20:12.165>I'm <00:20:12.340>a <00:20:12.515>woman.

487
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<00:20:14.005>I <00:20:14.132>guess <00:20:14.259>I'll <00:20:14.386>take <00:20:14.514>control <00:20:14.641>of <00:20:14.768>all <00:20:14.895>the <00:20:15.023>consoles <00:20:15.150>in <00:20:15.277>the <00:20:15.405>house.

488
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<00:20:17.585>Um, <00:20:17.740>but <00:20:17.896>you <00:20:18.051>know, <00:20:18.207>it, <00:20:18.362>this, <00:20:18.518>this <00:20:18.673>often, <00:20:18.829>you <00:20:18.985>know,

489
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<00:20:19.805>like <00:20:20.085>the <00:20:20.365>actual <00:20:20.645>demographics <00:20:20.925>of <00:20:21.205>who,

490
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<00:20:21.705>who <00:20:21.845>are <00:20:21.985>the <00:20:22.125>core <00:20:22.264>gamers <00:20:22.405>actually <00:20:22.544>flies <00:20:22.685>in <00:20:22.824>the <00:20:22.965>face <00:20:23.105>of

491
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<00:20:24.395>what <00:20:24.640>people <00:20:24.885>tend <00:20:25.130>to <00:20:25.376>think.

492
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<00:20:26.025>Um, <00:20:26.180>and, <00:20:26.336>and <00:20:26.491>the <00:20:26.647>impact <00:20:26.802>of <00:20:26.958>games <00:20:27.113>is <00:20:27.269>goes <00:20:27.425>way

493
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<00:20:29.005>beyond <00:20:29.180>game <00:20:29.355>developers, <00:20:29.530>people <00:20:29.705>like <00:20:29.880>me, <00:20:30.055>and <00:20:30.230>it's <00:20:30.405>massive.

494
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<00:20:31.655>We're <00:20:31.940>not <00:20:32.226>just <00:20:32.512>players. <00:20:32.798>Um,

495
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<00:20:32.925>people <00:20:33.100>are <00:20:33.274>streaming <00:20:33.450>games <00:20:33.625>online, <00:20:33.800>as <00:20:33.975>you <00:20:34.149>probably <00:20:34.325>know,

496
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<00:20:36.345>in <00:20:36.570>making <00:20:36.795>a <00:20:37.020>very <00:20:37.245>good <00:20:37.470>living <00:20:37.695>doing,

497
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<00:20:37.865>and <00:20:38.130>on <00:20:38.396>places <00:20:38.661>like <00:20:38.927>Twitch

498
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<00:20:39.045>and <00:20:39.278>YouTube, <00:20:39.511>um, <00:20:39.745>in <00:20:39.978>their <00:20:40.211>modern <00:20:40.445>games

499
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<00:20:41.145>and <00:20:41.378>creating <00:20:41.611>their <00:20:41.845>own <00:20:42.078>content <00:20:42.311>in <00:20:42.545>many

500
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<00:20:43.005>of <00:20:43.285>these <00:20:43.565>mods <00:20:43.845>are <00:20:44.125>being <00:20:44.405>sold.

501
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502
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<00:20:48.725>standard <00:20:48.976>parts <00:20:49.229>of <00:20:49.481>the <00:20:49.733>sports <00:20:49.985>scene

503
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<00:20:50.185>and <00:20:50.465>are <00:20:50.745>increasingly <00:20:51.024>forming <00:20:51.304>on <00:20:51.585>college

504
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<00:20:52.725>campuses, <00:20:53.301>uh, <00:20:53.877>worldwide.

505
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506
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<00:20:56.925>what <00:20:57.065>you're <00:20:57.205>looking <00:20:57.345>at <00:20:57.485>here <00:20:57.625>is <00:20:57.764>pre <00:20:57.905>COVID, <00:20:58.044>but <00:20:58.185>where <00:20:58.325>eSports

507
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508
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<00:21:03.345>for <00:21:03.545>many <00:21:03.745>game <00:21:03.945>developers <00:21:04.145>was <00:21:04.345>when <00:21:04.545>the <00:21:04.745>League

509
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<00:21:06.645>of <00:21:06.995>Legends <00:21:07.345>tournaments <00:21:07.695>started <00:21:08.045>up

510
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<00:21:08.225>and <00:21:08.504>they <00:21:08.784>were <00:21:09.064>literally <00:21:09.344>filling <00:21:09.625>stadiums.

511
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<00:21:10.705>It <00:21:10.953>was, <00:21:11.201>it <00:21:11.450>was <00:21:11.698>like, <00:21:11.947>okay,

512
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<00:21:12.435>this <00:21:12.610>is <00:21:12.784>obviously <00:21:12.960>not <00:21:13.135>just <00:21:13.310>a <00:21:13.485>land <00:21:13.659>party <00:21:13.835>anymore.

513
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<00:21:15.155>This <00:21:15.504>is <00:21:15.855>big, <00:21:16.205>big <00:21:16.555>business.

514
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<00:21:17.305>Um, <00:21:17.445>and <00:21:17.585>I <00:21:17.725>think <00:21:17.865>it's <00:21:18.005>all <00:21:18.145>a <00:21:18.285>part <00:21:18.425>of <00:21:18.565>game <00:21:18.705>culture.

515
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<00:21:19.695>We're <00:21:19.811>all <00:21:19.928>a <00:21:20.044>part <00:21:20.161>of <00:21:20.278>game <00:21:20.395>culture, <00:21:20.511>whether <00:21:20.628>we <00:21:20.745>know <00:21:20.861>it <00:21:20.978>or <00:21:21.095>not.

516
00:21:22.065 --> 00:21:24.885
<00:21:22.065>If, <00:21:22.220>if <00:21:22.376>you <00:21:22.531>have <00:21:22.687>an <00:21:22.842>iPhone, <00:21:22.998>like <00:21:23.153>Apple <00:21:23.309>computers <00:21:23.465>started

517
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<00:21:24.885>because <00:21:25.060>of <00:21:25.235>breakout, <00:21:25.410>um, <00:21:25.585>a <00:21:25.760>game <00:21:25.935>Steve <00:21:26.110>Wozniak <00:21:26.285>wanted

518
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<00:21:28.245>to <00:21:28.419>make, <00:21:28.594>and <00:21:28.770>he <00:21:28.945>met <00:21:29.120>Steve <00:21:29.294>Jobs <00:21:29.469>at <00:21:29.645>Atari.

519
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<00:21:31.345>If <00:21:31.545>you <00:21:31.745>have <00:21:31.945>ever <00:21:32.145>used <00:21:32.345>Reddit, <00:21:32.545>that <00:21:32.745>started

520
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521
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522
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<00:21:37.865>So <00:21:38.020>the <00:21:38.176>next <00:21:38.331>story <00:21:38.487>I <00:21:38.642>wanna <00:21:38.798>tell <00:21:38.953>you <00:21:39.109>is <00:21:39.265>like,

523
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<00:21:39.965>what's <00:21:40.298>the <00:21:40.630>story <00:21:40.964>of <00:21:41.297>games?

524
00:21:42.065 --> 00:21:44.565
<00:21:42.065>Um, <00:21:42.345>they <00:21:42.625>go <00:21:42.905>way, <00:21:43.185>way <00:21:43.465>back.

525
00:21:44.715 --> 00:21:47.565
<00:21:44.715>They <00:21:44.995>are <00:21:45.274>actually <00:21:45.554>our <00:21:45.834>originalists <00:21:46.115>humans.

526
00:21:47.595 --> 00:21:49.405
<00:21:47.595>They <00:21:47.875>are <00:21:48.155>original <00:21:48.435>form <00:21:48.715>of <00:21:48.995>culture.

527
00:21:49.865 --> 00:21:50.885
<00:21:49.865>Uh, <00:21:50.171>they <00:21:50.477>date <00:21:50.783>back

528
00:21:50.885 --> 00:21:54.045
<00:21:50.885>to <00:21:51.040>our <00:21:51.196>earliest <00:21:51.351>recorded <00:21:51.507>time <00:21:51.662>when <00:21:51.818>humans <00:21:51.973>had <00:21:52.129>gotten <00:21:52.285>the

529
00:21:54.045 --> 00:21:55.885
<00:21:54.045>work <00:21:54.278>of <00:21:54.511>survival <00:21:54.745>outta <00:21:54.978>the <00:21:55.211>way <00:21:55.445>they

530
00:21:55.885 --> 00:21:57.005
<00:21:55.885>turned <00:21:56.389>toward <00:21:56.893>entertainment.

531
00:21:57.265 --> 00:21:59.805
<00:21:57.265>And <00:21:57.545>entertainment <00:21:57.825>was <00:21:58.105>music <00:21:58.385>and <00:21:58.665>games.

532
00:22:00.505 --> 00:22:03.205
<00:22:00.505>Um, <00:22:00.680>the <00:22:00.855>game, <00:22:01.030>uh, <00:22:01.205>that <00:22:01.380>she <00:22:01.555>was <00:22:01.730>playing <00:22:01.905>on

533
00:22:03.205 --> 00:22:05.045
<00:22:03.205>that <00:22:03.405>previous <00:22:03.605>slide <00:22:03.804>is <00:22:04.004>a <00:22:04.205>game <00:22:04.405>called <00:22:04.605>Senate.

534
00:22:05.145 --> 00:22:08.365
<00:22:05.145>And <00:22:05.320>unfortunately, <00:22:05.495>no <00:22:05.670>rule <00:22:05.845>sets <00:22:06.020>of <00:22:06.195>this <00:22:06.370>game <00:22:06.545>survive,

535
00:22:08.505 --> 00:22:11.165
<00:22:08.505>but <00:22:08.660>copies <00:22:08.816>of <00:22:08.971>the <00:22:09.127>game, <00:22:09.282>uh, <00:22:09.438>not <00:22:09.593>copies <00:22:09.749>of <00:22:09.905>versions

536
00:22:11.165 --> 00:22:13.925
<00:22:11.165>of <00:22:11.305>the <00:22:11.445>game <00:22:11.585>due, <00:22:11.725>such <00:22:11.865>as <00:22:12.004>the <00:22:12.145>one <00:22:12.284>pictured <00:22:12.425>here, <00:22:12.565>um,

537
00:22:13.925 --> 00:22:15.245
<00:22:13.925>in <00:22:14.162>the <00:22:14.400>first <00:22:14.637>video <00:22:14.875>game, <00:22:15.112>uh,

538
00:22:15.315 --> 00:22:19.405
<00:22:15.315>gets <00:22:15.455>it <00:22:15.595>start <00:22:15.735>way <00:22:15.875>back <00:22:16.015>in <00:22:16.155>1958 <00:22:16.295>at <00:22:16.435>Brookhaven <00:22:16.575>National <00:22:16.715>Labs

539
00:22:19.425 --> 00:22:20.645
<00:22:19.425>in <00:22:19.699>Long <00:22:19.974>Island, <00:22:20.248>New <00:22:20.523>York.

540
00:22:20.895 --> 00:22:23.525
<00:22:20.895>There, <00:22:21.128>uh, <00:22:21.361>a <00:22:21.595>guy <00:22:21.828>named <00:22:22.061>Willie <00:22:22.295>Higginbotham.

541
00:22:23.625 --> 00:22:25.685
<00:22:23.625>Um, <00:22:23.800>he <00:22:23.975>created <00:22:24.150>a <00:22:24.325>game <00:22:24.500>called <00:22:24.675>Tennis <00:22:24.850>for <00:22:25.025>Two.

542
00:22:25.705 --> 00:22:28.925
<00:22:25.705>And <00:22:25.879>it's <00:22:26.054>widely <00:22:26.230>regarded <00:22:26.405>as <00:22:26.580>the <00:22:26.754>original <00:22:26.929>video <00:22:27.105>game,

543
00:22:29.445 --> 00:22:32.165
<00:22:29.445>although <00:22:29.645>there <00:22:29.845>are <00:22:30.044>actually <00:22:30.245>examples <00:22:30.445>that <00:22:30.645>predate <00:22:30.845>this.

544
00:22:32.705 --> 00:22:35.775
<00:22:32.705>Uh, <00:22:32.832>and <00:22:32.959>here <00:22:33.086>you <00:22:33.214>can <00:22:33.341>see <00:22:33.468>here, <00:22:33.595>you <00:22:33.723>can <00:22:33.850>see <00:22:33.977>it <00:22:34.105>playing.

545
00:22:36.595 --> 00:22:39.375
<00:22:36.595>Um, <00:22:36.750>and <00:22:36.906>the <00:22:37.061>home <00:22:37.217>console <00:22:37.372>market <00:22:37.528>takes <00:22:37.683>off <00:22:37.839>in <00:22:37.995>the

546
00:22:39.375 --> 00:22:40.655
<00:22:39.375>late <00:22:39.759>seventies <00:22:40.143>and <00:22:40.527>eighties.

547
00:22:40.715 --> 00:22:44.015
<00:22:40.715>And <00:22:40.842>many <00:22:40.969>of <00:22:41.096>us <00:22:41.224>from <00:22:41.351>that <00:22:41.478>time <00:22:41.605>have <00:22:41.733>fond <00:22:41.860>memories <00:22:41.987>of <00:22:42.115>sitting

548
00:22:44.015 --> 00:22:47.215
<00:22:44.015>around <00:22:44.170>the <00:22:44.326>TV <00:22:44.481>playing <00:22:44.637>space <00:22:44.792>invaders <00:22:44.948>for <00:22:45.103>hours <00:22:45.259>and <00:22:45.415>hours

549
00:22:47.275 --> 00:22:48.335
<00:22:47.275>and <00:22:47.593>hours <00:22:47.911>and <00:22:48.229>hours.

550
00:22:48.755 --> 00:22:50.775
<00:22:48.755>Um, <00:22:49.035>in <00:22:49.315>the <00:22:49.595>Apple <00:22:49.875>II <00:22:50.155>computer,

551
00:22:50.995 --> 00:22:53.495
<00:22:50.995>for <00:22:51.228>many <00:22:51.461>people <00:22:51.695>was <00:22:51.928>an <00:22:52.161>absolute <00:22:52.395>game

552
00:22:53.495 --> 00:22:54.615
<00:22:53.495>changer, <00:22:53.999>quite <00:22:54.503>literally.

553
00:22:54.715 --> 00:22:57.135
<00:22:54.715>It <00:22:54.948>marked <00:22:55.181>what <00:22:55.415>can <00:22:55.648>only <00:22:55.881>be <00:22:56.115>described

554
00:22:57.135 --> 00:22:59.335
<00:22:57.135>as <00:22:57.368>like <00:22:57.601>a <00:22:57.835>Cambrian <00:22:58.068>explosion <00:22:58.301>of <00:22:58.535>games.

555
00:22:59.475 --> 00:23:02.615
<00:22:59.475>So, <00:22:59.630>so <00:22:59.786>many <00:22:59.941>different <00:23:00.097>genres <00:23:00.252>were <00:23:00.408>invented <00:23:00.563>at <00:23:00.719>that <00:23:00.875>time.

556
00:23:02.715 --> 00:23:06.575
<00:23:02.715>And <00:23:02.870>it <00:23:03.026>turned <00:23:03.181>game <00:23:03.337>development <00:23:03.492>over <00:23:03.648>to <00:23:03.803>hobbyists, <00:23:03.959>you <00:23:04.115>know,

557
00:23:06.575 --> 00:23:09.455
<00:23:06.575>in <00:23:06.715>a <00:23:06.855>sense, <00:23:06.995>people <00:23:07.135>who <00:23:07.275>had <00:23:07.415>computers <00:23:07.555>at <00:23:07.695>home <00:23:07.835>as <00:23:07.975>opposed

558
00:23:09.475 --> 00:23:12.015
<00:23:09.475>to <00:23:09.630>people <00:23:09.786>who <00:23:09.941>were <00:23:10.097>working <00:23:10.252>on <00:23:10.408>the <00:23:10.563>hardware <00:23:10.719>at <00:23:10.875>Atari

559
00:23:12.035 --> 00:23:14.855
<00:23:12.035>or <00:23:12.190>at <00:23:12.346>the <00:23:12.501>people <00:23:12.657>who <00:23:12.812>put <00:23:12.968>out <00:23:13.123>the <00:23:13.279>arcade <00:23:13.435>machines.

560
00:23:15.155 --> 00:23:18.615
<00:23:15.155>So <00:23:15.295>if <00:23:15.435>you <00:23:15.575>love <00:23:15.715>games <00:23:15.855>like <00:23:15.995>Doom, <00:23:16.135>uh, <00:23:16.274>call <00:23:16.415>of <00:23:16.555>Duty,

561
00:23:18.615 --> 00:23:20.975
<00:23:18.615>final <00:23:18.742>Fantasy, <00:23:18.869>the <00:23:18.996>Sims, <00:23:19.124>I <00:23:19.251>could <00:23:19.378>go <00:23:19.505>on <00:23:19.633>and <00:23:19.760>on <00:23:19.887>and <00:23:20.015>on.

562
00:23:21.075 --> 00:23:22.935
<00:23:21.075>All <00:23:21.308>of <00:23:21.541>these <00:23:21.775>games <00:23:22.008>draw <00:23:22.241>their <00:23:22.475>roots

563
00:23:23.655 --> 00:23:24.855
<00:23:23.655>directly <00:23:23.925>back <00:23:24.195>to <00:23:24.465>this <00:23:24.735>machine.

564
00:23:25.355 --> 00:23:27.935
<00:23:25.355>Um, <00:23:25.530>and <00:23:25.705>the <00:23:25.880>PC <00:23:26.055>market <00:23:26.230>continues <00:23:26.405>to <00:23:26.580>grow, <00:23:26.755>obviously,

565
00:23:28.035 --> 00:23:29.095
<00:23:28.035>to <00:23:28.353>this <00:23:28.671>very <00:23:28.989>day.

566
00:23:29.275 --> 00:23:31.815
<00:23:29.275>And <00:23:29.508>it's <00:23:29.741>not <00:23:29.975>so <00:23:30.208>different <00:23:30.441>from <00:23:30.675>consoles,

567
00:23:31.955 --> 00:23:34.855
<00:23:31.955>but <00:23:32.110>we've <00:23:32.266>come <00:23:32.421>a <00:23:32.577>long <00:23:32.732>way <00:23:32.888>since <00:23:33.043>the <00:23:33.199>mid <00:23:33.355>1990s.

568
00:23:34.995 --> 00:23:37.255
<00:23:34.995>And <00:23:35.169>VR, <00:23:35.344>as <00:23:35.520>I'm <00:23:35.695>sure <00:23:35.870>you <00:23:36.044>know, <00:23:36.219>it's <00:23:36.395>the,

569
00:23:37.445 --> 00:23:38.615
<00:23:37.445>it's <00:23:37.796>the <00:23:38.147>latest <00:23:38.498>thing.

570
00:23:38.675 --> 00:23:41.255
<00:23:38.675>Um, <00:23:38.850>and <00:23:39.024>it's <00:23:39.200>an <00:23:39.375>attempt <00:23:39.550>to <00:23:39.725>take <00:23:39.899>games, <00:23:40.075>uh,

571
00:23:41.275 --> 00:23:43.615
<00:23:41.275>and <00:23:41.450>people <00:23:41.625>to <00:23:41.800>places <00:23:41.975>that <00:23:42.150>they've <00:23:42.325>never <00:23:42.500>been <00:23:42.675>before.

572
00:23:43.875 --> 00:23:46.285
<00:23:43.875>So <00:23:44.155>how <00:23:44.435>do <00:23:44.715>games <00:23:44.995>tell <00:23:45.275>stories?

573
00:23:47.145 --> 00:23:50.005
<00:23:47.145>Um, <00:23:47.320>well, <00:23:47.495>to <00:23:47.670>start, <00:23:47.845>there's <00:23:48.020>really <00:23:48.195>two <00:23:48.370>different <00:23:48.545>types

574
00:23:50.005 --> 00:23:51.325
<00:23:50.005>of <00:23:50.203>stories <00:23:50.401>that <00:23:50.599>a <00:23:50.797>game <00:23:50.995>can <00:23:51.193>tell.

575
00:23:51.535 --> 00:23:54.445
<00:23:51.535>First, <00:23:51.690>there's <00:23:51.846>the <00:23:52.001>story <00:23:52.157>that <00:23:52.312>comes <00:23:52.468>in <00:23:52.623>the <00:23:52.779>game, <00:23:52.935>um,

576
00:23:54.545 --> 00:23:58.085
<00:23:54.545>and <00:23:54.685>then <00:23:54.825>there <00:23:54.965>is <00:23:55.105>the, <00:23:55.245>uh, <00:23:55.385>there's <00:23:55.525>the <00:23:55.665>game <00:23:55.805>itself, <00:23:55.945>right?

577
00:23:58.085 --> 00:23:59.605
<00:23:58.085>Like <00:23:58.541>games, <00:23:58.997>like, <00:23:59.453>uh,

578
00:23:59.925 --> 00:24:01.885
<00:23:59.925>elastomers <00:24:00.158>Part <00:24:00.391>two <00:24:00.625>are <00:24:00.858>a <00:24:01.091>perfect <00:24:01.325>example

579
00:24:01.985 --> 00:24:06.245
<00:24:01.985>of <00:24:02.159>a <00:24:02.334>pre-created <00:24:02.510>story <00:24:02.685>that <00:24:02.860>the <00:24:03.034>player <00:24:03.209>plays <00:24:03.385>through.

580
00:24:06.505 --> 00:24:08.965
<00:24:06.505>Um, <00:24:06.660>and <00:24:06.816>they're <00:24:06.971>taking <00:24:07.127>the <00:24:07.282>role <00:24:07.438>of <00:24:07.593>a <00:24:07.749>specific <00:24:07.905>character.

581
00:24:09.105 --> 00:24:12.405
<00:24:09.105>And <00:24:09.245>some <00:24:09.385>of <00:24:09.525>our <00:24:09.665>most <00:24:09.805>iconic <00:24:09.945>characters <00:24:10.085>like <00:24:10.225>the <00:24:10.365>Witcher <00:24:10.505>come

582
00:24:12.405 --> 00:24:15.165
<00:24:12.405>from, <00:24:12.580>um, <00:24:12.754>the <00:24:12.930>imagination <00:24:13.105>of <00:24:13.280>a <00:24:13.455>writer <00:24:13.629>who <00:24:13.805>wanted

583
00:24:15.165 --> 00:24:17.885
<00:24:15.165>to <00:24:15.320>tell <00:24:15.476>a <00:24:15.631>story, <00:24:15.787>and <00:24:15.942>the <00:24:16.098>game <00:24:16.253>developers <00:24:16.409>who <00:24:16.565>wanted

584
00:24:17.885 --> 00:24:19.485
<00:24:17.885>to <00:24:18.165>let <00:24:18.445>people <00:24:18.725>into <00:24:19.004>that <00:24:19.285>world.

585
00:24:20.145 --> 00:24:22.325
<00:24:20.145>But <00:24:20.425>there's <00:24:20.705>also <00:24:20.985>the <00:24:21.264>player <00:24:21.545>story,

586
00:24:22.385 --> 00:24:25.125
<00:24:22.385>and <00:24:22.540>there's <00:24:22.696>what <00:24:22.851>happens <00:24:23.007>when <00:24:23.162>you <00:24:23.318>are <00:24:23.473>playing <00:24:23.629>the <00:24:23.785>game.

587
00:24:25.505 --> 00:24:27.685
<00:24:25.505>So, <00:24:25.660>um, <00:24:25.816>think <00:24:25.971>about <00:24:26.127>the <00:24:26.282>last <00:24:26.438>time <00:24:26.593>you <00:24:26.749>played <00:24:26.905>a

588
00:24:27.845 --> 00:24:28.965
<00:24:27.845>Monopoly <00:24:28.181>game, <00:24:28.517>who <00:24:28.852>won?

589
00:24:29.185 --> 00:24:31.765
<00:24:29.185>Um, <00:24:29.385>and, <00:24:29.585>um, <00:24:29.784>who <00:24:29.985>do <00:24:30.185>you <00:24:30.385>never <00:24:30.585>want

590
00:24:31.765 --> 00:24:33.365
<00:24:31.765>to <00:24:32.115>play <00:24:32.465>against <00:24:32.815>a <00:24:33.165>monopoly?

591
00:24:33.425 --> 00:24:35.605
<00:24:33.425>Or <00:24:33.580>I <00:24:33.736>can <00:24:33.891>even, <00:24:34.047>like, <00:24:34.202>take <00:24:34.358>my <00:24:34.513>own <00:24:34.669>household, <00:24:34.825>like,

592
00:24:35.835 --> 00:24:37.525
<00:24:35.835>what <00:24:36.010>is <00:24:36.185>the <00:24:36.360>last <00:24:36.535>game <00:24:36.710>of <00:24:36.885>do <00:24:37.060>my <00:24:37.235>Played?

593
00:24:37.805 --> 00:24:38.965
<00:24:37.805>I <00:24:38.013>don't <00:24:38.222>know. <00:24:38.431>Did <00:24:38.640>I <00:24:38.849>win?

594
00:24:39.105 --> 00:24:41.805
<00:24:39.105>No, <00:24:39.232>I <00:24:39.359>got <00:24:39.486>destroyed <00:24:39.614>because <00:24:39.741>of <00:24:39.868>the <00:24:39.995>house <00:24:40.123>that <00:24:40.250>I'm <00:24:40.377>in, <00:24:40.505>right?

595
00:24:41.835 --> 00:24:45.885
<00:24:41.835>Like, <00:24:41.975>and, <00:24:42.115>and <00:24:42.255>so <00:24:42.395>there's, <00:24:42.535>there's <00:24:42.675>games <00:24:42.815>allow <00:24:42.955>we <00:24:43.095>as <00:24:43.235>people

596
00:24:46.025 --> 00:24:47.045
<00:24:46.025>to <00:24:46.484>tell <00:24:46.943>stories.

597
00:24:47.155 --> 00:24:50.005
<00:24:47.155>Like, <00:24:47.330>I <00:24:47.504>happen <00:24:47.680>to <00:24:47.855>think <00:24:48.030>I'm <00:24:48.205>particularly <00:24:48.379>good <00:24:48.555>at,

598
00:24:50.225 --> 00:24:52.325
<00:24:50.225>at <00:24:50.425>one <00:24:50.625>specific <00:24:50.824>game <00:24:51.024>in <00:24:51.225>the <00:24:51.425>house, <00:24:51.625>and,

599
00:24:52.385 --> 00:24:53.565
<00:24:52.385>and <00:24:52.650>John <00:24:52.916>thinks <00:24:53.181>he's <00:24:53.447>better.

600
00:24:53.665 --> 00:24:55.765
<00:24:53.665>And <00:24:53.840>so <00:24:54.014>we've <00:24:54.190>actually <00:24:54.365>been <00:24:54.540>trading <00:24:54.715>off <00:24:54.889>high <00:24:55.065>scores

601
00:24:55.905 --> 00:24:57.325
<00:24:55.905>for <00:24:56.118>10 <00:24:56.331>years, <00:24:56.544>believe <00:24:56.757>it <00:24:56.970>or <00:24:57.183>not.

602
00:24:58.065 --> 00:24:59.725
<00:24:58.065>Um, <00:24:58.345>and <00:24:58.625>it's <00:24:58.905>similar <00:24:59.185>to <00:24:59.465>Minecraft.

603
00:24:59.785 --> 00:25:01.805
<00:24:59.785>Now, <00:25:00.018>there's <00:25:00.251>no <00:25:00.485>story <00:25:00.718>here, <00:25:00.951>per <00:25:01.185>se,

604
00:25:01.805 --> 00:25:03.885
<00:25:01.805>but <00:25:02.005>we <00:25:02.205>make <00:25:02.405>the <00:25:02.605>story <00:25:02.805>while <00:25:03.005>we're <00:25:03.205>playing.

605
00:25:03.915 --> 00:25:05.805
<00:25:03.915>What <00:25:04.070>do <00:25:04.226>we <00:25:04.381>wanna <00:25:04.537>build? <00:25:04.692>What <00:25:04.848>do <00:25:05.003>we <00:25:05.159>wanna <00:25:05.315>do?

606
00:25:06.185 --> 00:25:08.405
<00:25:06.185>You <00:25:06.360>know, <00:25:06.534>how <00:25:06.710>do <00:25:06.885>we <00:25:07.060>accidentally <00:25:07.235>fall <00:25:07.409>into <00:25:07.585>lava

607
00:25:08.405 --> 00:25:09.485
<00:25:08.405>and <00:25:08.599>lose <00:25:08.793>everything <00:25:08.988>that <00:25:09.182>we <00:25:09.377>had?

608
00:25:09.545 --> 00:25:11.805
<00:25:09.545>And <00:25:09.745>all <00:25:09.945>game <00:25:10.145>designers <00:25:10.345>take <00:25:10.545>this <00:25:10.745>into <00:25:10.945>account

609
00:25:12.055 --> 00:25:13.325
<00:25:12.055>while <00:25:12.340>we're <00:25:12.626>playing <00:25:12.912>a <00:25:13.198>game.

610
00:25:13.705 --> 00:25:16.485
<00:25:13.705>And <00:25:13.845>that's <00:25:13.985>one <00:25:14.125>of <00:25:14.264>the <00:25:14.405>coolest <00:25:14.544>things <00:25:14.685>really <00:25:14.824>about <00:25:14.965>games, <00:25:15.105>uh,

611
00:25:16.505 --> 00:25:18.605
<00:25:16.505>uh, <00:25:16.738>like <00:25:16.971>books <00:25:17.205>or <00:25:17.438>movies, <00:25:17.671>unlike <00:25:17.905>books

612
00:25:18.605 --> 00:25:21.125
<00:25:18.605>or <00:25:18.838>movies, <00:25:19.071>is <00:25:19.305>that <00:25:19.538>games <00:25:19.771>allow <00:25:20.005>players

613
00:25:21.265 --> 00:25:23.205
<00:25:21.265>to <00:25:21.615>actually <00:25:21.965>create <00:25:22.315>the <00:25:22.665>story.

614
00:25:23.625 --> 00:25:25.485
<00:25:23.625>Um, <00:25:23.825>so <00:25:24.025>we <00:25:24.225>don't <00:25:24.425>go <00:25:24.625>into <00:25:24.825>a <00:25:25.025>theater.

615
00:25:25.785 --> 00:25:28.365
<00:25:25.785>You <00:25:25.925>don't <00:25:26.065>go <00:25:26.205>into <00:25:26.345>a <00:25:26.485>theater <00:25:26.625>and <00:25:26.765>create <00:25:26.905>your <00:25:27.045>own <00:25:27.185>experience.

616
00:25:28.425 --> 00:25:30.405
<00:25:28.425>You <00:25:28.600>go <00:25:28.774>into <00:25:28.950>a <00:25:29.125>theater <00:25:29.300>and <00:25:29.475>you <00:25:29.649>sit <00:25:29.825>there

617
00:25:30.405 --> 00:25:31.565
<00:25:30.405>and <00:25:30.753>watch <00:25:31.101>the <00:25:31.449>experience

618
00:25:31.565 --> 00:25:33.085
<00:25:31.565>that <00:25:31.793>someone <00:25:32.021>else <00:25:32.249>wanted <00:25:32.477>you <00:25:32.705>to <00:25:32.933>have.

619
00:25:33.705 --> 00:25:37.125
<00:25:33.705>But <00:25:33.938>with <00:25:34.171>games, <00:25:34.405>the <00:25:34.638>canvases <00:25:34.871>really <00:25:35.105>yours

620
00:25:37.145 --> 00:25:40.365
<00:25:37.145>to <00:25:37.300>create <00:25:37.456>the <00:25:37.611>experience <00:25:37.767>you <00:25:37.922>want <00:25:38.078>within <00:25:38.233>the <00:25:38.389>game <00:25:38.545>world

621
00:25:40.555 --> 00:25:42.205
<00:25:40.555>that <00:25:40.835>has <00:25:41.115>been <00:25:41.395>created <00:25:41.675>for <00:25:41.955>you,

622
00:25:42.625 --> 00:25:44.885
<00:25:42.625>and <00:25:42.905>that <00:25:43.185>makes <00:25:43.465>games <00:25:43.745>truly <00:25:44.025>unique.

623
00:25:45.065 --> 00:25:48.685
<00:25:45.065>And <00:25:45.265>so <00:25:45.465>both <00:25:45.665>of <00:25:45.865>these <00:25:46.065>experiences <00:25:46.265>are <00:25:46.465>created

624
00:25:48.825 --> 00:25:50.085
<00:25:48.825>by <00:25:49.108>a <00:25:49.392>game <00:25:49.675>designer, <00:25:49.959>and,

625
00:25:50.085 --> 00:25:51.925
<00:25:50.085>and <00:25:50.201>it'll <00:25:50.318>give <00:25:50.435>you <00:25:50.551>a <00:25:50.668>little <00:25:50.785>bit <00:25:50.901>of <00:25:51.018>a <00:25:51.135>look <00:25:51.251>behind <00:25:51.368>the <00:25:51.485>scenes

626
00:25:51.945 --> 00:25:54.925
<00:25:51.945>to <00:25:52.100>show <00:25:52.256>you <00:25:52.411>how <00:25:52.567>we <00:25:52.722>might <00:25:52.878>do <00:25:53.033>something <00:25:53.189>like <00:25:53.345>this.

627
00:25:55.835 --> 00:25:58.335
<00:25:55.835>Um, <00:25:56.035>so <00:25:56.235>level <00:25:56.435>designers, <00:25:56.635>as <00:25:56.835>you <00:25:57.035>probably <00:25:57.235>know,

628
00:25:58.475 --> 00:26:00.735
<00:25:58.475>create <00:25:58.649>the <00:25:58.824>level <00:25:59.000>by <00:25:59.175>level <00:25:59.350>play <00:25:59.524>in <00:25:59.699>the <00:25:59.875>game.

629
00:26:00.915 --> 00:26:03.975
<00:26:00.915>So <00:26:01.055>we <00:26:01.195>take <00:26:01.335>this <00:26:01.475>into <00:26:01.615>account <00:26:01.754>when <00:26:01.895>we're <00:26:02.034>designing <00:26:02.175>the <00:26:02.315>game,

630
00:26:04.115 --> 00:26:05.775
<00:26:04.115>we <00:26:04.465>consider <00:26:04.815>the <00:26:05.165>overall <00:26:05.515>flow

631
00:26:05.795 --> 00:26:07.815
<00:26:05.795>and <00:26:05.995>the <00:26:06.195>look <00:26:06.395>of <00:26:06.595>spaces <00:26:06.795>where <00:26:06.995>the <00:26:07.195>players

632
00:26:07.875 --> 00:26:09.055
<00:26:07.875>are <00:26:08.087>going <00:26:08.299>to <00:26:08.512>be <00:26:08.724>moving <00:26:08.937>through.

633
00:26:09.315 --> 00:26:12.495
<00:26:09.315>And <00:26:09.515>level <00:26:09.715>designers <00:26:09.915>generally <00:26:10.115>lay <00:26:10.315>out <00:26:10.515>the <00:26:10.715>flow

634
00:26:12.515 --> 00:26:15.135
<00:26:12.515>of <00:26:12.715>their <00:26:12.915>level, <00:26:13.115>either <00:26:13.315>by <00:26:13.515>hand <00:26:13.715>or <00:26:13.915>digitally,

635
00:26:15.195 --> 00:26:17.935
<00:26:15.195>and <00:26:15.395>determine <00:26:15.595>the <00:26:15.794>placement <00:26:15.995>of <00:26:16.195>items <00:26:16.395>and <00:26:16.595>props

636
00:26:18.075 --> 00:26:20.895
<00:26:18.075>and <00:26:18.308>artists <00:26:18.541>bring <00:26:18.775>these <00:26:19.008>visions <00:26:19.241>to <00:26:19.475>reality.

637
00:26:21.925 --> 00:26:25.145
<00:26:21.925>So <00:26:22.041>you <00:26:22.158>can <00:26:22.274>see <00:26:22.391>here <00:26:22.508>this <00:26:22.625>is <00:26:22.741>an <00:26:22.858>example <00:26:22.975>of <00:26:23.091>quake <00:26:23.208>from <00:26:23.325>1996.

638
00:26:25.485 --> 00:26:27.785
<00:26:25.485>Um, <00:26:25.612>it's <00:26:25.739>E <00:26:25.866>two <00:26:25.994>M <00:26:26.121>three, <00:26:26.248>if <00:26:26.375>you <00:26:26.503>didn't <00:26:26.630>spot <00:26:26.757>the <00:26:26.885>level,

639
00:26:27.845 --> 00:26:29.385
<00:26:27.845>and <00:26:28.191>this <00:26:28.538>was, <00:26:28.884>um, <00:26:29.231>uh,

640
00:26:29.385 --> 00:26:31.105
<00:26:29.385>he <00:26:29.540>was <00:26:29.696>at <00:26:29.851>IT <00:26:30.007>software <00:26:30.162>when <00:26:30.318>he <00:26:30.473>put <00:26:30.629>this <00:26:30.785>out.

641
00:26:31.645 --> 00:26:35.425
<00:26:31.645>Um, <00:26:31.772>and <00:26:31.899>we <00:26:32.026>also <00:26:32.154>en <00:26:32.281>use <00:26:32.408>the <00:26:32.535>environment <00:26:32.663>to <00:26:32.790>carry <00:26:32.917>the <00:26:33.045>story.

642
00:26:35.605 --> 00:26:38.225
<00:26:35.605>So <00:26:35.838>environments <00:26:36.071>can <00:26:36.305>make <00:26:36.538>us <00:26:36.771>nervous <00:26:37.005>or,

643
00:26:38.285 --> 00:26:40.545
<00:26:38.285>or <00:26:38.440>they <00:26:38.596>can <00:26:38.751>make <00:26:38.907>us <00:26:39.062>excited <00:26:39.218>to <00:26:39.373>see <00:26:39.529>what's <00:26:39.685>there,

644
00:26:40.565 --> 00:26:42.785
<00:26:40.565>and <00:26:40.765>maybe <00:26:40.965>also <00:26:41.165>a <00:26:41.365>little <00:26:41.565>bit <00:26:41.765>nervous, <00:26:41.965>um,

645
00:26:43.065 --> 00:26:45.525
<00:26:43.065>or <00:26:43.205>they <00:26:43.345>can <00:26:43.485>give <00:26:43.625>us <00:26:43.765>a <00:26:43.905>sense <00:26:44.045>of <00:26:44.185>scale <00:26:44.325>and <00:26:44.465>wonder.

646
00:26:45.825 --> 00:26:49.485
<00:26:45.825>And, <00:26:45.952>uh, <00:26:46.079>and <00:26:46.206>sometimes <00:26:46.334>games <00:26:46.461>can <00:26:46.588>also <00:26:46.715>give <00:26:46.843>us, <00:26:46.970>um, <00:26:47.097>a <00:26:47.225>sense

647
00:26:49.485 --> 00:26:51.805
<00:26:49.485>of <00:26:49.718>time, <00:26:49.951>particularly <00:26:50.185>a <00:26:50.418>real <00:26:50.651>world <00:26:50.885>place

648
00:26:51.825 --> 00:26:54.485
<00:26:51.825>and <00:26:52.025>time <00:26:52.225>automatically <00:26:52.425>telling <00:26:52.625>us <00:26:52.825>in <00:26:53.025>a <00:26:53.225>way

649
00:26:54.485 --> 00:26:56.645
<00:26:54.485>what <00:26:54.685>the <00:26:54.885>expected <00:26:55.084>rules <00:26:55.284>of <00:26:55.485>the <00:26:55.685>world <00:26:55.885>are,

650
00:26:56.645 --> 00:26:58.805
<00:26:56.645>even <00:26:56.820>if <00:26:56.995>the <00:26:57.170>game <00:26:57.345>itself <00:26:57.520>is <00:26:57.695>not <00:26:57.870>telling <00:26:58.045>us.

651
00:26:59.425 --> 00:27:00.965
<00:26:59.425>Um, <00:27:00.118>content <00:27:00.811>designers

652
00:27:00.965 --> 00:27:03.165
<00:27:00.965>or <00:27:01.198>narrative <00:27:01.431>designers, <00:27:01.665>um, <00:27:01.898>that's <00:27:02.131>the <00:27:02.365>role

653
00:27:03.165 --> 00:27:04.325
<00:27:03.165>that <00:27:03.513>writes <00:27:03.861>the <00:27:04.209>stories.

654
00:27:04.585 --> 00:27:07.365
<00:27:04.585>And, <00:27:04.760>um, <00:27:04.935>they're <00:27:05.110>involved <00:27:05.285>in <00:27:05.460>creating <00:27:05.635>the <00:27:05.810>world <00:27:05.985>narrative.

655
00:27:07.365 --> 00:27:10.845
<00:27:07.365>And <00:27:07.520>they <00:27:07.676>may <00:27:07.831>write <00:27:07.987>the <00:27:08.142>story, <00:27:08.298>the <00:27:08.453>dialogue, <00:27:08.609>missions <00:27:08.765>in,

656
00:27:10.845 --> 00:27:14.005
<00:27:10.845>in <00:27:11.045>game <00:27:11.245>support <00:27:11.445>material <00:27:11.645>to, <00:27:11.845>um, <00:27:12.045>like <00:27:12.245>such

657
00:27:14.005 --> 00:27:15.125
<00:27:14.005>as <00:27:14.206>books <00:27:14.408>in <00:27:14.609>a <00:27:14.811>Wizards <00:27:15.013>library

658
00:27:15.225 --> 00:27:16.805
<00:27:15.225>or <00:27:15.458>something <00:27:15.691>to <00:27:15.925>help <00:27:16.158>the <00:27:16.391>player <00:27:16.625>along.

659
00:27:17.705 --> 00:27:20.605
<00:27:17.705>And, <00:27:17.832>um, <00:27:17.959>here's <00:27:18.086>a <00:27:18.214>sample <00:27:18.341>question, <00:27:18.468>just <00:27:18.595>to <00:27:18.723>give <00:27:18.850>you <00:27:18.977>an <00:27:19.105>idea.

660
00:27:20.605 --> 00:27:21.645
<00:27:20.605>This <00:27:20.839>is <00:27:21.073>a <00:27:21.307>terrible <00:27:21.541>quest,

661
00:27:21.705 --> 00:27:24.205
<00:27:21.705>but <00:27:21.845>you <00:27:21.985>know, <00:27:22.125>like <00:27:22.264>somebody <00:27:22.405>could <00:27:22.544>say, <00:27:22.685>find <00:27:22.824>the <00:27:22.965>Ruby <00:27:23.105>wizard,

662
00:27:24.355 --> 00:27:26.165
<00:27:24.355>give <00:27:24.635>the <00:27:24.915>Ruby <00:27:25.195>Wizard <00:27:25.475>10 <00:27:25.755>rubies,

663
00:27:26.225 --> 00:27:28.165
<00:27:26.225>and <00:27:26.380>then <00:27:26.536>you <00:27:26.691>get <00:27:26.847>the <00:27:27.002>diamond <00:27:27.158>from <00:27:27.313>the <00:27:27.469>Ruby <00:27:27.625>wizard,

664
00:27:28.175 --> 00:27:29.805
<00:27:28.175>which <00:27:28.375>in <00:27:28.575>fairness <00:27:28.774>is <00:27:28.975>not <00:27:29.175>a <00:27:29.375>bad <00:27:29.575>trade.

665
00:27:30.145 --> 00:27:31.965
<00:27:30.145>Um, <00:27:30.300>and <00:27:30.456>then <00:27:30.611>you <00:27:30.767>bring <00:27:30.922>the <00:27:31.078>diamond <00:27:31.233>to <00:27:31.389>the <00:27:31.545>pirate,

666
00:27:32.105 --> 00:27:33.645
<00:27:32.105>and <00:27:32.303>then <00:27:32.501>you <00:27:32.699>would <00:27:32.897>get <00:27:33.095>the <00:27:33.293>Pirate's <00:27:33.491>treasure.

667
00:27:33.745 --> 00:27:35.405
<00:27:33.745>So <00:27:33.978>this <00:27:34.211>is <00:27:34.445>an <00:27:34.678>example <00:27:34.911>of <00:27:35.145>something

668
00:27:35.405 --> 00:27:36.565
<00:27:35.405>that <00:27:35.666>a <00:27:35.927>designer <00:27:36.188>would <00:27:36.449>write,

669
00:27:36.585 --> 00:27:39.365
<00:27:36.585>and <00:27:36.740>then <00:27:36.896>they <00:27:37.051>would <00:27:37.207>use <00:27:37.362>some <00:27:37.518>form <00:27:37.673>of <00:27:37.829>scripting <00:27:37.985>language,

670
00:27:39.365 --> 00:27:41.845
<00:27:39.365>typically <00:27:39.645>lu, <00:27:39.925>to <00:27:40.205>create <00:27:40.485>these <00:27:40.765>quests.

671
00:27:41.865 --> 00:27:44.405
<00:27:41.865>And <00:27:42.065>now, <00:27:42.265>while <00:27:42.465>that's <00:27:42.665>a <00:27:42.865>very <00:27:43.065>simplistic <00:27:43.265>view

672
00:27:44.405 --> 00:27:47.565
<00:27:44.405>of <00:27:44.532>a <00:27:44.659>game <00:27:44.786>story, <00:27:44.914>many <00:27:45.041>modern <00:27:45.168>games <00:27:45.295>have <00:27:45.423>more <00:27:45.550>words <00:27:45.677>in <00:27:45.805>them

673
00:27:47.875 --> 00:27:50.045
<00:27:47.875>than <00:27:48.075>an <00:27:48.275>average <00:27:48.475>novel, <00:27:48.675>believe <00:27:48.875>it <00:27:49.075>or <00:27:49.275>not.

674
00:27:50.145 --> 00:27:52.805
<00:27:50.145>And <00:27:50.345>games, <00:27:50.545>unlike <00:27:50.745>books, <00:27:50.945>often <00:27:51.145>have <00:27:51.345>multiple <00:27:51.545>endings

675
00:27:52.805 --> 00:27:54.925
<00:27:52.805>and <00:27:53.085>sometimes <00:27:53.365>even <00:27:53.645>have <00:27:53.925>multiple <00:27:54.205>beginnings.

676
00:27:55.585 --> 00:27:58.245
<00:27:55.585>So <00:27:55.818>game <00:27:56.051>designers <00:27:56.285>dream <00:27:56.518>up <00:27:56.751>these <00:27:56.985>worlds,

677
00:27:58.245 --> 00:28:00.725
<00:27:58.245>and <00:27:58.445>we <00:27:58.645>create <00:27:58.844>these <00:27:59.044>goals <00:27:59.245>for <00:27:59.445>our <00:27:59.645>players

678
00:28:00.985 --> 00:28:04.685
<00:28:00.985>and <00:28:01.159>challenge <00:28:01.334>them <00:28:01.510>to <00:28:01.685>encounter, <00:28:01.860>uh, <00:28:02.034>the <00:28:02.209>challenge <00:28:02.385>them

679
00:28:04.785 --> 00:28:06.485
<00:28:04.785>as <00:28:05.065>they <00:28:05.345>encounter <00:28:05.625>these <00:28:05.905>things, <00:28:06.185>uh,

680
00:28:06.585 --> 00:28:07.845
<00:28:06.585>to <00:28:06.811>try <00:28:07.038>to <00:28:07.265>complete <00:28:07.492>the <00:28:07.719>game.

681
00:28:08.265 --> 00:28:11.005
<00:28:08.265>Um, <00:28:08.405>and <00:28:08.545>we <00:28:08.685>create <00:28:08.825>these <00:28:08.965>games, <00:28:09.105>uh, <00:28:09.245>these, <00:28:09.385>all <00:28:09.525>of <00:28:09.665>these

682
00:28:11.005 --> 00:28:13.925
<00:28:11.005>through <00:28:11.180>the <00:28:11.355>process <00:28:11.530>of, <00:28:11.705>of <00:28:11.880>game <00:28:12.055>design, <00:28:12.230>we <00:28:12.405>determine

683
00:28:13.945 --> 00:28:15.885
<00:28:13.945>how <00:28:14.145>the <00:28:14.345>game <00:28:14.544>is <00:28:14.745>won, <00:28:14.945>how <00:28:15.145>it <00:28:15.345>behaves.

684
00:28:16.225 --> 00:28:17.685
<00:28:16.225>Um, <00:28:16.553>and, <00:28:16.881>uh, <00:28:17.210>you <00:28:17.539>know,

685
00:28:17.685 --> 00:28:20.205
<00:28:17.685>if <00:28:17.825>if <00:28:17.965>anyone <00:28:18.105>has <00:28:18.245>questions <00:28:18.385>about <00:28:18.524>jobs <00:28:18.665>in <00:28:18.804>the <00:28:18.945>game <00:28:19.085>industry,

686
00:28:20.205 --> 00:28:22.085
<00:28:20.205>obviously <00:28:20.405>I <00:28:20.605>can, <00:28:20.804>um, <00:28:21.004>you <00:28:21.205>know, <00:28:21.405>I'm <00:28:21.605>happy

687
00:28:22.085 --> 00:28:23.445
<00:28:22.085>to <00:28:22.329>answer <00:28:22.574>them <00:28:22.819>after <00:28:23.064>this <00:28:23.309>talk.

688
00:28:24.065 --> 00:28:26.885
<00:28:24.065>So, <00:28:24.220>uh, <00:28:24.376>so <00:28:24.531>where <00:28:24.687>do <00:28:24.842>these <00:28:24.998>ideas <00:28:25.153>even <00:28:25.309>come <00:28:25.465>from?

689
00:28:26.985 --> 00:28:29.285
<00:28:26.985>And <00:28:27.140>for <00:28:27.296>those <00:28:27.451>of <00:28:27.607>you <00:28:27.762>actually <00:28:27.918>thinking <00:28:28.073>as <00:28:28.229>of <00:28:28.385>game

690
00:28:29.505 --> 00:28:32.725
<00:28:29.505>as <00:28:29.660>a <00:28:29.816>career <00:28:29.971>for <00:28:30.127>me, <00:28:30.282>like <00:28:30.438>the <00:28:30.593>number <00:28:30.749>one <00:28:30.905>place

691
00:28:32.725 --> 00:28:35.165
<00:28:32.725>where <00:28:32.958>the <00:28:33.191>ideas <00:28:33.425>come <00:28:33.658>from <00:28:33.891>is <00:28:34.125>history.

692
00:28:35.665 --> 00:28:38.725
<00:28:35.665>Um, <00:28:35.840>so <00:28:36.014>for <00:28:36.190>example, <00:28:36.365>my <00:28:36.540>game, <00:28:36.715>uh, <00:28:36.889>empire <00:28:37.065>Sin,

693
00:28:38.725 --> 00:28:41.165
<00:28:38.725>it's <00:28:38.958>set <00:28:39.191>in <00:28:39.425>1920s, <00:28:39.658>prohibition <00:28:39.891>era <00:28:40.125>Chicago,

694
00:28:41.465 --> 00:28:43.965
<00:28:41.465>and <00:28:41.620>everything <00:28:41.776>in <00:28:41.931>it, <00:28:42.087>from <00:28:42.242>the <00:28:42.398>characters <00:28:42.553>to <00:28:42.709>the <00:28:42.865>cars,

695
00:28:44.025 --> 00:28:47.485
<00:28:44.025>to <00:28:44.152>the <00:28:44.279>weapons, <00:28:44.406>to <00:28:44.534>the <00:28:44.661>quest, <00:28:44.788>almost <00:28:44.915>all <00:28:45.043>of <00:28:45.170>this <00:28:45.297>comes <00:28:45.425>out

696
00:28:47.485 --> 00:28:48.565
<00:28:47.485>of, <00:28:47.809>uh, <00:28:48.133>history <00:28:48.457>books.

697
00:28:48.565 --> 00:28:51.845
<00:28:48.565>So <00:28:48.705>here <00:28:48.845>you're <00:28:48.985>looking <00:28:49.125>at <00:28:49.265>Daniel <00:28:49.405>McKee <00:28:49.545>Jackson, <00:28:49.685>who <00:28:49.825>was, <00:28:49.965>uh,

698
00:28:52.065 --> 00:28:54.365
<00:28:52.065>he <00:28:52.298>was <00:28:52.531>a <00:28:52.765>boss <00:28:52.998>in <00:28:53.231>1920 <00:28:53.465>Chicago.

699
00:28:54.625 --> 00:28:56.645
<00:28:54.625>Um, <00:28:54.905>he, <00:28:55.185>he <00:28:55.465>was <00:28:55.745>an <00:28:56.025>undertaker

700
00:28:56.745 --> 00:29:00.645
<00:28:56.745>and <00:28:56.872>ran <00:28:56.999>casinos, <00:28:57.126>so <00:28:57.254>you <00:28:57.381>could, <00:28:57.508>I <00:28:57.635>guess <00:28:57.763>you <00:28:57.890>could <00:28:58.017>get <00:28:58.145>rid

701
00:29:00.645 --> 00:29:02.205
<00:29:00.645>of <00:29:00.845>people <00:29:01.045>and, <00:29:01.245>and, <00:29:01.445>and <00:29:01.645>bury <00:29:01.845>them <00:29:02.045>too.

702
00:29:02.625 --> 00:29:05.965
<00:29:02.625>Um, <00:29:02.780>but <00:29:02.936>history <00:29:03.091>is <00:29:03.247>a <00:29:03.402>rich, <00:29:03.558>rich <00:29:03.713>source <00:29:03.869>for <00:29:04.025>me.

703
00:29:05.985 --> 00:29:08.325
<00:29:05.985>And <00:29:06.185>other <00:29:06.385>games <00:29:06.584>are <00:29:06.784>based <00:29:06.985>on <00:29:07.185>life <00:29:07.385>experience.

704
00:29:08.405 --> 00:29:11.725
<00:29:08.405>A <00:29:08.545>great <00:29:08.685>example <00:29:08.825>of <00:29:08.965>this <00:29:09.105>is <00:29:09.245>a <00:29:09.385>game <00:29:09.524>called <00:29:09.665>Dysphoria, <00:29:09.805>uh,

705
00:29:11.725 --> 00:29:13.325
<00:29:11.725>dysphoria <00:29:12.191>by <00:29:12.658>Anna <00:29:13.125>Ropy.

706
00:29:14.025 --> 00:29:15.125
<00:29:14.025>Um, <00:29:14.272>and <00:29:14.520>it <00:29:14.767>tells, <00:29:15.015>uh,

707
00:29:15.245 --> 00:29:17.605
<00:29:15.245>a <00:29:15.445>powerful <00:29:15.645>story <00:29:15.844>in <00:29:16.044>literally <00:29:16.245>just <00:29:16.445>five <00:29:16.645>minutes

708
00:29:17.705 --> 00:29:21.125
<00:29:17.705>and <00:29:17.905>has <00:29:18.105>received <00:29:18.304>many <00:29:18.504>accolades, <00:29:18.705>including <00:29:18.905>being <00:29:19.105>nominated

709
00:29:21.145 --> 00:29:22.405
<00:29:21.145>for <00:29:21.523>an <00:29:21.901>IGF <00:29:22.279>award.

710
00:29:22.785 --> 00:29:24.045
<00:29:22.785>Um, <00:29:23.068>there's <00:29:23.352>another <00:29:23.635>game, <00:29:23.919>uh,

711
00:29:24.045 --> 00:29:25.845
<00:29:24.045>that <00:29:24.245>I <00:29:24.445>often <00:29:24.645>reference <00:29:24.845>called <00:29:25.045>that <00:29:25.245>Dragon <00:29:25.445>Cancer.

712
00:29:26.025 --> 00:29:28.045
<00:29:26.025>Um, <00:29:26.258>that <00:29:26.491>Dragon <00:29:26.725>Cancer <00:29:26.958>won <00:29:27.191>a <00:29:27.425>bafta.

713
00:29:28.085 --> 00:29:30.125
<00:29:28.085>I, <00:29:28.285>it's, <00:29:28.485>it's <00:29:28.685>a <00:29:28.885>challenging <00:29:29.085>game <00:29:29.285>to <00:29:29.485>play.

714
00:29:30.195 --> 00:29:33.205
<00:29:30.195>It's <00:29:30.370>about, <00:29:30.544>um, <00:29:30.720>the <00:29:30.895>families, <00:29:31.070>uh, <00:29:31.245>struggles <00:29:31.419>with <00:29:31.595>cancer

715
00:29:33.345 --> 00:29:34.525
<00:29:33.345>and <00:29:33.557>then <00:29:33.769>later <00:29:33.982>with <00:29:34.194>their <00:29:34.407>faith.

716
00:29:34.765 --> 00:29:35.925
<00:29:34.765>I <00:29:34.973>think <00:29:35.182>this <00:29:35.391>is <00:29:35.600>probably <00:29:35.809>one

717
00:29:35.925 --> 00:29:37.165
<00:29:35.925>of <00:29:36.148>the <00:29:36.371>greatest <00:29:36.594>games <00:29:36.817>ever <00:29:37.041>created.

718
00:29:37.385 --> 00:29:40.285
<00:29:37.385>Uh, <00:29:37.501>you <00:29:37.618>know, <00:29:37.735>I <00:29:37.851>I <00:29:37.968>sometimes <00:29:38.085>refer <00:29:38.201>to <00:29:38.318>as <00:29:38.435>our <00:29:38.551>Mona <00:29:38.668>Lisa <00:29:38.785>work.

719
00:29:40.405 --> 00:29:42.125
<00:29:40.405>I <00:29:40.605>think <00:29:40.805>it's <00:29:41.004>just, <00:29:41.205>just <00:29:41.405>an <00:29:41.605>exceptional <00:29:41.805>game.

720
00:29:42.585 --> 00:29:43.725
<00:29:42.585>Um, <00:29:42.927>another <00:29:43.269>game, <00:29:43.610>uh,

721
00:29:43.725 --> 00:29:46.325
<00:29:43.725>another <00:29:43.880>is <00:29:44.036>also <00:29:44.191>a <00:29:44.347>five <00:29:44.502>minute <00:29:44.658>game <00:29:44.813>here <00:29:44.969>called <00:29:45.125>Passage.

722
00:29:46.905 --> 00:29:49.365
<00:29:46.905>Um, <00:29:47.080>and, <00:29:47.254>uh, <00:29:47.430>there's <00:29:47.605>only <00:29:47.780>one <00:29:47.955>word <00:29:48.129>in <00:29:48.305>passage,

723
00:29:49.505 --> 00:29:52.245
<00:29:49.505>and <00:29:49.645>you're <00:29:49.785>looking <00:29:49.925>at <00:29:50.065>it, <00:29:50.205>it's <00:29:50.345>it <00:29:50.485>there, <00:29:50.625>that's <00:29:50.765>its <00:29:50.905>title,

724
00:29:52.345 --> 00:29:54.925
<00:29:52.345>and <00:29:52.520>it <00:29:52.695>tells, <00:29:52.870>um, <00:29:53.045>its <00:29:53.220>story <00:29:53.395>through <00:29:53.570>the <00:29:53.745>environment

725
00:29:54.985 --> 00:29:57.245
<00:29:54.985>and <00:29:55.218>the <00:29:55.451>game <00:29:55.685>dynamics <00:29:55.918>and <00:29:56.151>the <00:29:56.385>character.

726
00:29:58.065 --> 00:30:01.765
<00:29:58.065>So <00:29:58.205>there's <00:29:58.345>also <00:29:58.485>a <00:29:58.625>fantastic <00:29:58.765>game, <00:29:58.905>uh, <00:29:59.045>called <00:29:59.185>Papa <00:29:59.325>and <00:29:59.465>Yo.

727
00:30:01.785 --> 00:30:05.245
<00:30:01.785>And <00:30:01.940>this <00:30:02.096>is <00:30:02.251>about, <00:30:02.407>um, <00:30:02.562>uh, <00:30:02.718>a, <00:30:02.873>a <00:30:03.029>man's <00:30:03.185>struggles

728
00:30:05.245 --> 00:30:07.125
<00:30:05.245>with <00:30:05.711>his <00:30:06.178>father's <00:30:06.645>alcoholism.

729
00:30:07.265 --> 00:30:09.965
<00:30:07.265>And, <00:30:07.420>you <00:30:07.576>know, <00:30:07.731>basically, <00:30:07.887>uh, <00:30:08.042>you, <00:30:08.198>this <00:30:08.353>is, <00:30:08.509>you <00:30:08.665>know,

730
00:30:09.965 --> 00:30:12.525
<00:30:09.965>this <00:30:10.092>is <00:30:10.219>his <00:30:10.346>father <00:30:10.474>sort <00:30:10.601>of <00:30:10.728>in <00:30:10.855>the <00:30:10.983>throes <00:30:11.110>of <00:30:11.237>it <00:30:11.365>here.

731
00:30:12.625 --> 00:30:14.925
<00:30:12.625>And, <00:30:12.800>and <00:30:12.975>he <00:30:13.150>uses <00:30:13.325>metaphor <00:30:13.500>to <00:30:13.675>tell <00:30:13.850>these <00:30:14.025>stories,

732
00:30:14.925 --> 00:30:17.405
<00:30:14.925>and <00:30:15.080>it's <00:30:15.236>about <00:30:15.391>growing <00:30:15.547>up <00:30:15.702>in <00:30:15.858>a <00:30:16.013>favela <00:30:16.169>in <00:30:16.325>Brazil.

733
00:30:17.705 --> 00:30:19.965
<00:30:17.705>Um, <00:30:17.905>and <00:30:18.105>these <00:30:18.304>experiences <00:30:18.504>are <00:30:18.705>known <00:30:18.905>to <00:30:19.105>him.

734
00:30:19.965 --> 00:30:22.365
<00:30:19.965>And <00:30:20.165>while <00:30:20.365>they're <00:30:20.564>not <00:30:20.764>unique <00:30:20.965>to <00:30:21.165>him, <00:30:21.365>clearly,

735
00:30:22.905 --> 00:30:24.965
<00:30:22.905>he <00:30:23.080>was <00:30:23.254>the <00:30:23.430>first <00:30:23.605>Van <00:30:23.780>Caballero <00:30:23.955>was <00:30:24.129>the <00:30:24.305>first

736
00:30:24.965 --> 00:30:26.165
<00:30:24.965>to <00:30:25.181>make <00:30:25.397>a <00:30:25.612>game <00:30:25.829>about <00:30:26.045>it.

737
00:30:26.465 --> 00:30:30.165
<00:30:26.465>Um, <00:30:26.592>and <00:30:26.719>there's <00:30:26.846>also <00:30:26.974>games <00:30:27.101>like <00:30:27.228>the <00:30:27.355>Legend <00:30:27.483>of <00:30:27.610>Time, <00:30:27.737>um, <00:30:27.865>uh,

738
00:30:30.265 --> 00:30:32.805
<00:30:30.265>by <00:30:30.440>Shara <00:30:30.615>Miyamoto, <00:30:30.790>uh, <00:30:30.965>not <00:30:31.140>the <00:30:31.315>legend, <00:30:31.490>the <00:30:31.665>legend

739
00:30:32.805 --> 00:30:35.965
<00:30:32.805>of <00:30:33.005>Zelda <00:30:33.205>Karina <00:30:33.405>of <00:30:33.605>Time <00:30:33.805>by <00:30:34.005>Shara <00:30:34.205>Miyamoto.

740
00:30:35.965 --> 00:30:38.725
<00:30:35.965>And <00:30:36.139>he <00:30:36.314>was <00:30:36.490>actually <00:30:36.665>inspired <00:30:36.840>to <00:30:37.014>create <00:30:37.189>this <00:30:37.365>game

741
00:30:38.835 --> 00:30:42.205
<00:30:38.835>because <00:30:38.990>of <00:30:39.146>a <00:30:39.301>pond <00:30:39.457>that <00:30:39.612>to <00:30:39.768>him <00:30:39.923>as <00:30:40.079>a <00:30:40.235>child,

742
00:30:42.205 --> 00:30:46.125
<00:30:42.205>looked <00:30:42.345>like <00:30:42.485>an <00:30:42.625>ocean, <00:30:42.764>um, <00:30:42.905>at <00:30:43.044>his, <00:30:43.185>uh, <00:30:43.324>at <00:30:43.465>his <00:30:43.605>grandparents.

743
00:30:46.625 --> 00:30:48.525
<00:30:46.625>Um, <00:30:46.858>other <00:30:47.091>games <00:30:47.325>that <00:30:47.558>we're <00:30:47.791>seeing, <00:30:48.025>um,

744
00:30:48.555 --> 00:30:50.485
<00:30:48.555>come <00:30:48.835>from <00:30:49.115>the <00:30:49.395>experiences <00:30:49.675>around <00:30:49.955>us,

745
00:30:50.485 --> 00:30:52.085
<00:30:50.485>like <00:30:50.834>Lila <00:30:51.185>in <00:30:51.534>the <00:30:51.885>Shadows

746
00:30:52.085 --> 00:30:54.605
<00:30:52.085>of <00:30:52.240>War <00:30:52.396>is <00:30:52.551>about <00:30:52.707>children <00:30:52.862>in <00:30:53.018>a <00:30:53.173>war <00:30:53.329>torn <00:30:53.485>country.

747
00:30:55.445 --> 00:30:57.285
<00:30:55.445>Um, <00:30:55.678>and <00:30:55.911>a <00:30:56.145>father <00:30:56.378>is <00:30:56.611>effectively <00:30:56.845>trying

748
00:30:57.285 --> 00:30:58.685
<00:30:57.285>to <00:30:57.537>get <00:30:57.789>his <00:30:58.041>daughter <00:30:58.293>to <00:30:58.545>safety.

749
00:30:59.265 --> 00:31:02.725
<00:30:59.265>Uh, <00:30:59.405>this <00:30:59.545>war <00:30:59.685>of <00:30:59.825>mine <00:30:59.965>is <00:31:00.105>an <00:31:00.245>amazing <00:31:00.385>example <00:31:00.525>of, <00:31:00.665>uh,

750
00:31:02.755 --> 00:31:04.365
<00:31:02.755>it's <00:31:03.035>just <00:31:03.315>such <00:31:03.595>an <00:31:03.875>excellent <00:31:04.155>game

751
00:31:04.425 --> 00:31:06.525
<00:31:04.425>and <00:31:04.774>challenges <00:31:05.125>players <00:31:05.475>with <00:31:05.825>survival.

752
00:31:07.065 --> 00:31:08.845
<00:31:07.065>Um, <00:31:07.345>subsurface <00:31:07.625>Circular <00:31:07.905>is <00:31:08.185>a <00:31:08.465>game

753
00:31:08.845 --> 00:31:10.005
<00:31:08.845>that <00:31:09.019>came <00:31:09.193>out <00:31:09.367>a <00:31:09.541>couple <00:31:09.715>years <00:31:09.889>ago,

754
00:31:10.005 --> 00:31:12.885
<00:31:10.005>and <00:31:10.180>it's <00:31:10.355>about <00:31:10.530>robots <00:31:10.705>stuck <00:31:10.880>on <00:31:11.055>the <00:31:11.230>London <00:31:11.405>Underground.

755
00:31:12.945 --> 00:31:14.285
<00:31:12.945>If <00:31:13.186>you've <00:31:13.427>ever <00:31:13.668>been <00:31:13.909>to <00:31:14.151>London,

756
00:31:14.665 --> 00:31:17.325
<00:31:14.665>you've <00:31:14.840>probably <00:31:15.014>also <00:31:15.190>been <00:31:15.365>stuck <00:31:15.540>on <00:31:15.715>the <00:31:15.889>London <00:31:16.065>Underground.

757
00:31:17.825 --> 00:31:20.445
<00:31:17.825>Um, <00:31:18.000>but <00:31:18.175>these <00:31:18.350>experiences <00:31:18.525>are <00:31:18.700>coming <00:31:18.875>from <00:31:19.050>the <00:31:19.225>game

758
00:31:20.725 --> 00:31:22.045
<00:31:20.725>designer's, <00:31:21.319>own <00:31:21.913>experiences,

759
00:31:22.265 --> 00:31:25.445
<00:31:22.265>and <00:31:22.392>the <00:31:22.519>binding <00:31:22.646>of <00:31:22.774>Isaac, <00:31:22.901>um, <00:31:23.028>which <00:31:23.155>I <00:31:23.283>know <00:31:23.410>just <00:31:23.537>has, <00:31:23.665>uh,

760
00:31:25.445 --> 00:31:26.845
<00:31:25.445>currently <00:31:25.760>has <00:31:26.075>a <00:31:26.390>ridiculous, <00:31:26.705>uh,

761
00:31:26.845 --> 00:31:28.165
<00:31:26.845>Kickstarter <00:31:27.142>going, <00:31:27.439>not <00:31:27.735>a <00:31:28.033>ridiculous.

762
00:31:28.165 --> 00:31:29.325
<00:31:28.165>Kickstarter <00:31:28.373>is <00:31:28.582>just <00:31:28.791>doing <00:31:29.000>really <00:31:29.209>well.

763
00:31:29.825 --> 00:31:32.445
<00:31:29.825>Um, <00:31:29.965>and <00:31:30.105>this <00:31:30.245>is <00:31:30.385>one <00:31:30.525>of <00:31:30.665>Ed <00:31:30.805>McMillan's, <00:31:30.945>uh, <00:31:31.085>many <00:31:31.225>games,

764
00:31:33.305 --> 00:31:35.365
<00:31:33.305>and <00:31:33.585>it's <00:31:33.865>somewhat <00:31:34.145>autobiographical <00:31:34.425>in <00:31:34.705>nature.

765
00:31:35.505 --> 00:31:37.445
<00:31:35.505>So <00:31:35.785>game <00:31:36.065>designers <00:31:36.345>often <00:31:36.625>mind <00:31:36.905>their

766
00:31:37.445 --> 00:31:38.605
<00:31:37.445>own <00:31:37.706>history <00:31:37.966>for <00:31:38.228>these <00:31:38.489>things.

767
00:31:38.825 --> 00:31:43.045
<00:31:38.825>Um, <00:31:38.965>so <00:31:39.105>what <00:31:39.245>experiences <00:31:39.385>do <00:31:39.525>games, <00:31:39.665>uh, <00:31:39.805>what, <00:31:39.945>what, <00:31:40.085>I <00:31:40.225>guess,

768
00:31:43.045 --> 00:31:44.445
<00:31:43.045>what <00:31:43.297>stories <00:31:43.549>do <00:31:43.801>games <00:31:44.053>tell, <00:31:44.304>or,

769
00:31:44.445 --> 00:31:46.285
<00:31:44.445>or <00:31:44.645>better <00:31:44.845>yet, <00:31:45.044>what <00:31:45.245>experiences <00:31:45.445>do <00:31:45.645>they <00:31:45.845>offer?

770
00:31:46.385 --> 00:31:50.445
<00:31:46.385>So <00:31:46.501>we're <00:31:46.618>good <00:31:46.735>at, <00:31:46.851>at <00:31:46.968>a <00:31:47.085>range <00:31:47.201>of <00:31:47.318>things, <00:31:47.435>say <00:31:47.551>from <00:31:47.668>fear, <00:31:47.785>um,

771
00:31:50.865 --> 00:31:53.005
<00:31:50.865>to, <00:31:51.065>you <00:31:51.265>know, <00:31:51.465>thanks <00:31:51.665>to <00:31:51.865>vr, <00:31:52.065>actually, <00:31:52.265>we're,

772
00:31:53.005 --> 00:31:55.245
<00:31:53.005>we're <00:31:53.238>really <00:31:53.471>good <00:31:53.705>now <00:31:53.938>at <00:31:54.171>experiencing <00:31:54.405>fear.

773
00:31:55.625 --> 00:31:58.245
<00:31:55.625>Um, <00:31:55.858>but <00:31:56.091>there's <00:31:56.325>also <00:31:56.558>joy <00:31:56.791>and <00:31:57.025>sadness.

774
00:31:58.865 --> 00:32:02.205
<00:31:58.865>Um, <00:31:59.065>wonder, <00:31:59.265>uh, <00:31:59.465>games <00:31:59.665>can <00:31:59.865>also <00:32:00.065>challenge <00:32:00.265>us.

775
00:32:02.545 --> 00:32:04.925
<00:32:02.545>Um, <00:32:02.720>we, <00:32:02.895>games <00:32:03.070>can <00:32:03.245>create <00:32:03.420>this <00:32:03.595>sense <00:32:03.770>of <00:32:03.945>wonder,

776
00:32:04.925 --> 00:32:06.685
<00:32:04.925>like <00:32:05.205>when <00:32:05.485>you're <00:32:05.764>playing <00:32:06.044>Minecraft <00:32:06.325>or,

777
00:32:06.945 --> 00:32:10.005
<00:32:06.945>or <00:32:07.145>any <00:32:07.345>game <00:32:07.544>that's <00:32:07.745>just <00:32:07.945>particularly <00:32:08.145>visually <00:32:08.345>beautiful,

778
00:32:10.005 --> 00:32:11.805
<00:32:10.005>and <00:32:10.160>you're <00:32:10.316>like, <00:32:10.471>my <00:32:10.627>God, <00:32:10.782>that's, <00:32:10.938>you <00:32:11.093>know, <00:32:11.249>you <00:32:11.405>stop

779
00:32:11.805 --> 00:32:14.285
<00:32:11.805>for <00:32:11.945>a <00:32:12.085>minute <00:32:12.225>just <00:32:12.365>because <00:32:12.505>it's <00:32:12.645>so <00:32:12.785>pretty <00:32:12.925>the <00:32:13.065>place <00:32:13.205>you're,

780
00:32:14.505 --> 00:32:17.965
<00:32:14.505>you're <00:32:14.680>exploring <00:32:14.855>games <00:32:15.030>are <00:32:15.205>obviously <00:32:15.380>also <00:32:15.555>really <00:32:15.730>good <00:32:15.905>at

781
00:32:17.995 --> 00:32:20.645
<00:32:17.995>rage, <00:32:18.150>but <00:32:18.306>they're <00:32:18.461>also <00:32:18.617>good <00:32:18.772>at <00:32:18.928>pride, <00:32:19.083>like, <00:32:19.239>you <00:32:19.395>know,

782
00:32:20.965 --> 00:32:23.205
<00:32:20.965>creating <00:32:21.245>things <00:32:21.524>or <00:32:21.804>even <00:32:22.084>how, <00:32:22.365>um,

783
00:32:23.725 --> 00:32:25.045
<00:32:23.725>language <00:32:24.022>apps <00:32:24.319>are <00:32:24.616>now <00:32:24.913>gamified.

784
00:32:25.185 --> 00:32:28.525
<00:32:25.185>And <00:32:25.312>so <00:32:25.439>that <00:32:25.566>we <00:32:25.694>feel <00:32:25.821>like <00:32:25.948>we <00:32:26.075>feel <00:32:26.203>proud <00:32:26.330>of <00:32:26.457>what <00:32:26.585>we've,

785
00:32:28.525 --> 00:32:29.685
<00:32:28.525>what <00:32:29.047>we've <00:32:29.569>accomplished

786
00:32:29.685 --> 00:32:31.805
<00:32:29.685>because <00:32:29.918>we've <00:32:30.151>earned <00:32:30.385>achievements <00:32:30.618>for <00:32:30.851>doing <00:32:31.085>so.

787
00:32:32.225 --> 00:32:35.005
<00:32:32.225>Um, <00:32:32.380>but <00:32:32.536>games <00:32:32.691>are <00:32:32.847>of <00:32:33.002>course, <00:32:33.158>more <00:32:33.313>than <00:32:33.469>just <00:32:33.625>fun

788
00:32:35.005 --> 00:32:37.405
<00:32:35.005>and <00:32:35.205>entertainment <00:32:35.405>game <00:32:35.605>designers <00:32:35.805>have <00:32:36.005>actually <00:32:36.205>turned <00:32:36.405>their

789
00:32:37.405 --> 00:32:39.885
<00:32:37.405>skills <00:32:37.638>toward <00:32:37.871>a <00:32:38.105>broad <00:32:38.338>range <00:32:38.571>of <00:32:38.805>games.

790
00:32:40.145 --> 00:32:42.685
<00:32:40.145>Uh, <00:32:40.378>topics <00:32:40.611>like <00:32:40.845>the <00:32:41.078>issue <00:32:41.311>surrounding <00:32:41.545>health.

791
00:32:42.785 --> 00:32:44.045
<00:32:42.785>In <00:32:43.068>fact, <00:32:43.352>it <00:32:43.635>is <00:32:43.919>one

792
00:32:44.045 --> 00:32:46.765
<00:32:44.045>of <00:32:44.220>the <00:32:44.395>biggest <00:32:44.570>growth <00:32:44.745>areas <00:32:44.920>right <00:32:45.095>now <00:32:45.270>for <00:32:45.445>games.

793
00:32:47.065 --> 00:32:50.125
<00:32:47.065>Um, <00:32:47.240>in <00:32:47.415>2018, <00:32:47.590>you've <00:32:47.765>probably <00:32:47.940>heard <00:32:48.115>about <00:32:48.290>this <00:32:48.465>game.

794
00:32:50.125 --> 00:32:51.525
<00:32:50.125>It's, <00:32:50.377>it's <00:32:50.629>a <00:32:50.881>game <00:32:51.133>called <00:32:51.385>Self-Care.

795
00:32:52.065 --> 00:32:56.165
<00:32:52.065>Um, <00:32:52.220>and <00:32:52.376>in <00:32:52.531>2018, <00:32:52.687>it <00:32:52.842>actually <00:32:52.998>got <00:32:53.153>apple's, <00:32:53.309>um, <00:32:53.465>game

796
00:32:56.165 --> 00:32:57.725
<00:32:56.165>of <00:32:56.514>the <00:32:56.865>year, <00:32:57.215>uh, <00:32:57.565>which,

797
00:32:57.865 --> 00:33:00.805
<00:32:57.865>and <00:32:58.020>it <00:32:58.176>was <00:32:58.331>basically <00:32:58.487>about <00:32:58.642>staying <00:32:58.798>in <00:32:58.953>bed <00:32:59.109>all <00:32:59.265>day

798
00:33:00.805 --> 00:33:02.765
<00:33:00.805>because <00:33:01.085>you <00:33:01.365>were <00:33:01.645>completely <00:33:01.925>worn <00:33:02.205>out.

799
00:33:02.825 --> 00:33:03.965
<00:33:02.825>And <00:33:03.030>as <00:33:03.235>the <00:33:03.440>mother <00:33:03.645>of <00:33:03.851>four

800
00:33:03.965 --> 00:33:06.205
<00:33:03.965>and <00:33:04.165>the <00:33:04.365>CEO <00:33:04.564>who's <00:33:04.764>just <00:33:04.965>launched <00:33:05.165>a <00:33:05.365>game,

801
00:33:06.485 --> 00:33:07.965
<00:33:06.485>I <00:33:06.928>can <00:33:07.372>totally <00:33:07.817>relate.

802
00:33:08.065 --> 00:33:10.245
<00:33:08.065>And, <00:33:08.345>um, <00:33:08.625>self-care <00:33:08.905>apps <00:33:09.185>are <00:33:09.465>actually

803
00:33:10.295 --> 00:33:12.245
<00:33:10.295>among <00:33:10.528>the <00:33:10.761>fastest <00:33:10.995>growing <00:33:11.228>apps <00:33:11.461>right <00:33:11.695>now.

804
00:33:12.745 --> 00:33:13.965
<00:33:12.745>Um, <00:33:13.110>and <00:33:13.476>health <00:33:13.842>apps

805
00:33:13.985 --> 00:33:16.245
<00:33:13.985>and <00:33:14.159>games <00:33:14.334>actually <00:33:14.510>go <00:33:14.685>back <00:33:14.860>to <00:33:15.034>the <00:33:15.209>We <00:33:15.385>Fit.

806
00:33:16.305 --> 00:33:17.845
<00:33:16.305>Um, <00:33:16.478>you <00:33:16.651>know, <00:33:16.824>and <00:33:16.998>the <00:33:17.171>goal <00:33:17.344>was <00:33:17.517>of <00:33:17.691>course,

807
00:33:17.845 --> 00:33:19.245
<00:33:17.845>to <00:33:18.025>get <00:33:18.205>people <00:33:18.385>up <00:33:18.565>and <00:33:18.745>off <00:33:18.925>the <00:33:19.105>couch.

808
00:33:19.705 --> 00:33:22.765
<00:33:19.705>Um, <00:33:19.879>and <00:33:20.054>you, <00:33:20.230>we <00:33:20.405>see, <00:33:20.580>um, <00:33:20.754>this <00:33:20.929>continues, <00:33:21.105>like

809
00:33:22.765 --> 00:33:24.005
<00:33:22.765>with <00:33:23.044>games <00:33:23.323>like <00:33:23.602>Pokemon <00:33:23.881>Go.

810
00:33:24.025 --> 00:33:27.805
<00:33:24.025>So <00:33:24.165>this <00:33:24.305>was <00:33:24.445>in <00:33:24.585>2016, <00:33:24.725>and <00:33:24.865>it <00:33:25.005>was <00:33:25.145>an <00:33:25.285>instant <00:33:25.425>phenomenon,

811
00:33:27.805 --> 00:33:29.965
<00:33:27.805>and <00:33:27.980>it <00:33:28.155>got <00:33:28.330>millions <00:33:28.505>and <00:33:28.680>millions <00:33:28.855>of <00:33:29.030>people <00:33:29.205>up

812
00:33:30.065 --> 00:33:32.245
<00:33:30.065>and <00:33:30.415>walking, <00:33:30.765>walking <00:33:31.115>for <00:33:31.465>miles.

813
00:33:32.705 --> 00:33:35.005
<00:33:32.705>Um, <00:33:32.860>and <00:33:33.016>in <00:33:33.171>fact, <00:33:33.327>it <00:33:33.482>was <00:33:33.638>more <00:33:33.793>successful <00:33:33.949>at <00:33:34.105>doing

814
00:33:35.005 --> 00:33:37.125
<00:33:35.005>that <00:33:35.205>than <00:33:35.405>apps <00:33:35.605>or <00:33:35.805>games <00:33:36.005>like <00:33:36.205>we <00:33:36.405>fit

815
00:33:37.125 --> 00:33:38.445
<00:33:37.125>that <00:33:37.362>were <00:33:37.600>designed <00:33:37.837>to <00:33:38.075>do <00:33:38.312>that.

816
00:33:38.625 --> 00:33:41.285
<00:33:38.625>So <00:33:38.825>there <00:33:39.025>was <00:33:39.225>like <00:33:39.425>massive <00:33:39.625>crowds <00:33:39.825>of <00:33:40.025>people,

817
00:33:41.285 --> 00:33:44.205
<00:33:41.285>people <00:33:41.460>were <00:33:41.635>swarming <00:33:41.810>trying <00:33:41.985>to <00:33:42.160>find, <00:33:42.335>uh, <00:33:42.510>rare <00:33:42.685>creatures.

818
00:33:44.505 --> 00:33:47.525
<00:33:44.505>And <00:33:44.645>there <00:33:44.785>were <00:33:44.925>actually <00:33:45.065>walks, <00:33:45.205>um, <00:33:45.345>that, <00:33:45.485>you <00:33:45.625>know, <00:33:45.765>in <00:33:45.905>2016,

819
00:33:47.525 --> 00:33:49.565
<00:33:47.525>here <00:33:47.700>is <00:33:47.875>a <00:33:48.050>walk <00:33:48.225>that <00:33:48.400>happened <00:33:48.575>in <00:33:48.750>San <00:33:48.925>Francisco,

820
00:33:49.865 --> 00:33:51.525
<00:33:49.865>and <00:33:50.065>there <00:33:50.265>was <00:33:50.465>this <00:33:50.665>study <00:33:50.865>that <00:33:51.065>was <00:33:51.265>done

821
00:33:51.525 --> 00:33:52.805
<00:33:51.525>by <00:33:52.101>Stanford <00:33:52.677>University

822
00:33:52.885 --> 00:33:54.125
<00:33:52.885>and <00:33:53.257>Microsoft <00:33:53.629>that <00:33:54.001>showed

823
00:33:54.125 --> 00:33:57.525
<00:33:54.125>that <00:33:54.300>Pokemon <00:33:54.475>players <00:33:54.650>were <00:33:54.825>actually <00:33:55.000>getting <00:33:55.175>26% <00:33:55.350>more <00:33:55.525>physical

824
00:33:57.805 --> 00:34:00.165
<00:33:57.805>activity <00:33:57.960>than <00:33:58.116>they <00:33:58.271>were <00:33:58.427>before <00:33:58.582>they <00:33:58.738>were <00:33:58.893>playing <00:33:59.049>the <00:33:59.205>game.

825
00:34:00.865 --> 00:34:03.205
<00:34:00.865>Um, <00:34:01.020>and <00:34:01.176>there's <00:34:01.331>other <00:34:01.487>games, <00:34:01.642>like <00:34:01.798>people <00:34:01.953>have <00:34:02.109>used, <00:34:02.265>uh,

826
00:34:03.205 --> 00:34:06.365
<00:34:03.205>Garfield <00:34:03.405>versus <00:34:03.605>Hotdog <00:34:03.804>to <00:34:04.004>try <00:34:04.205>to <00:34:04.405>improve, <00:34:04.605>um,

827
00:34:06.485 --> 00:34:08.525
<00:34:06.485>people's <00:34:06.764>eating, <00:34:07.044>uh, <00:34:07.324>you <00:34:07.604>know, <00:34:07.885>not

828
00:34:08.705 --> 00:34:10.205
<00:34:08.705>to <00:34:09.042>stop <00:34:09.380>people <00:34:09.717>from <00:34:10.054>overeating.

829
00:34:10.545 --> 00:34:12.165
<00:34:10.545>And <00:34:10.895>this <00:34:11.245>was <00:34:11.595>actually <00:34:11.945>supported

830
00:34:12.165 --> 00:34:14.045
<00:34:12.165>by <00:34:12.445>a <00:34:12.725>major <00:34:13.005>insurance <00:34:13.284>company, <00:34:13.565>knowing

831
00:34:14.045 --> 00:34:16.365
<00:34:14.045>that <00:34:14.220>they <00:34:14.395>would <00:34:14.570>not <00:34:14.745>spend <00:34:14.920>so <00:34:15.095>much <00:34:15.270>on <00:34:15.445>prevention.

832
00:34:16.585 --> 00:34:18.965
<00:34:16.585>Uh, <00:34:16.725>they <00:34:16.865>would, <00:34:17.005>if <00:34:17.145>they <00:34:17.284>spent <00:34:17.425>on <00:34:17.565>prevention, <00:34:17.705>they <00:34:17.845>would <00:34:17.985>have

833
00:34:18.965 --> 00:34:20.285
<00:34:18.965>to <00:34:19.202>spend <00:34:19.440>less <00:34:19.677>down <00:34:19.915>the <00:34:20.152>line.

834
00:34:20.505 --> 00:34:24.085
<00:34:20.505>And <00:34:20.660>even <00:34:20.816>at <00:34:20.971>major <00:34:21.127>universities <00:34:21.282>got <00:34:21.438>in <00:34:21.593>to <00:34:21.749>take <00:34:21.905>a,

835
00:34:24.425 --> 00:34:27.725
<00:34:24.425>got <00:34:24.580>into <00:34:24.736>the <00:34:24.891>act <00:34:25.047>to <00:34:25.202>try <00:34:25.358>to <00:34:25.513>study <00:34:25.669>this, <00:34:25.825>um,

836
00:34:27.905 --> 00:34:29.405
<00:34:27.905>and <00:34:28.242>to <00:34:28.580>see <00:34:28.917>how <00:34:29.255>games,

837
00:34:29.625 --> 00:34:31.245
<00:34:29.625>how <00:34:29.858>effective <00:34:30.091>games <00:34:30.324>could <00:34:30.558>be <00:34:30.791>in <00:34:31.025>helping

838
00:34:31.245 --> 00:34:32.525
<00:34:31.245>people <00:34:31.533>change <00:34:31.821>their <00:34:32.109>eating <00:34:32.397>habits.

839
00:34:33.225 --> 00:34:36.645
<00:34:33.225>Uh, <00:34:33.364>in <00:34:33.505>2014, <00:34:33.645>there <00:34:33.784>was <00:34:33.924>actually <00:34:34.065>a <00:34:34.205>game <00:34:34.344>called, <00:34:34.485>uh, <00:34:34.625>relive.

840
00:34:36.785 --> 00:34:39.725
<00:34:36.784>Um, <00:34:36.984>and <00:34:37.185>it <00:34:37.384>was <00:34:37.585>a <00:34:37.784>collaboration <00:34:37.984>between <00:34:38.185>researchers,

841
00:34:39.745 --> 00:34:41.125
<00:34:39.745>the <00:34:40.159>Italian <00:34:40.572>Research <00:34:40.987>Council

842
00:34:41.585 --> 00:34:43.845
<00:34:41.585>and <00:34:41.818>Studio <00:34:42.051>Evil <00:34:42.284>in, <00:34:42.518>uh, <00:34:42.751>in <00:34:42.985>Italy.

843
00:34:43.845 --> 00:34:45.725
<00:34:43.844>And <00:34:44.125>it <00:34:44.404>basically <00:34:44.685>taught <00:34:44.964>teenagers <00:34:45.245>how

844
00:34:45.725 --> 00:34:46.965
<00:34:45.725>to <00:34:46.096>recognize <00:34:46.469>heart <00:34:46.841>attacks

845
00:34:47.105 --> 00:34:49.605
<00:34:47.105>and <00:34:47.304>how <00:34:47.505>to <00:34:47.705>perform <00:34:47.905>CP <00:34:48.105>to <00:34:48.304>prevent <00:34:48.505>deaths.

846
00:34:50.305 --> 00:34:52.765
<00:34:50.304>One <00:34:50.504>of <00:34:50.705>my <00:34:50.904>favorite <00:34:51.105>health <00:34:51.304>games <00:34:51.504>was <00:34:51.705>actually

847
00:34:52.765 --> 00:34:54.045
<00:34:52.764>called <00:34:53.149>Catch <00:34:53.533>the <00:34:53.917>Sperm.

848
00:34:54.305 --> 00:34:56.645
<00:34:54.304>So <00:34:54.585>this <00:34:54.864>came <00:34:55.145>out <00:34:55.424>in <00:34:55.705>2001,

849
00:34:56.705 --> 00:34:59.045
<00:34:56.705>and <00:34:56.904>of <00:34:57.105>course, <00:34:57.305>this <00:34:57.505>is <00:34:57.705>absolutely <00:34:57.904>ridiculous, <00:34:58.105>right?

850
00:34:59.345 --> 00:35:02.605
<00:34:59.345>Um, <00:34:59.520>but <00:34:59.694>the <00:34:59.870>Swiss, <00:35:00.044>Swiss <00:35:00.220>Federal <00:35:00.395>Health <00:35:00.569>Office, <00:35:00.745>um,

851
00:35:02.715 --> 00:35:03.885
<00:35:02.715>they <00:35:02.890>actually <00:35:03.066>put <00:35:03.241>it <00:35:03.417>out <00:35:03.592>as <00:35:03.768>part

852
00:35:03.885 --> 00:35:05.125
<00:35:03.885>of <00:35:04.164>their <00:35:04.443>Stop <00:35:04.722>AIDS <00:35:05.001>campaign.

853
00:35:05.585 --> 00:35:07.125
<00:35:05.585>Now, <00:35:05.931>naturally, <00:35:06.278>people <00:35:06.624>played <00:35:06.971>this

854
00:35:07.205 --> 00:35:08.725
<00:35:07.205>and <00:35:07.375>went, <00:35:07.547>oh <00:35:07.718>my <00:35:07.889>goodness, <00:35:08.060>can <00:35:08.231>you <00:35:08.402>believe <00:35:08.573>this?

855
00:35:08.725 --> 00:35:10.085
<00:35:08.725>And <00:35:08.929>they <00:35:09.133>forwarded <00:35:09.337>it <00:35:09.541>to <00:35:09.745>their <00:35:09.949>friends

856
00:35:10.105 --> 00:35:11.245
<00:35:10.105>and <00:35:10.276>they <00:35:10.447>forwarded <00:35:10.618>it <00:35:10.788>to <00:35:10.960>their <00:35:11.131>friends,

857
00:35:11.265 --> 00:35:13.285
<00:35:11.265>and <00:35:11.498>it <00:35:11.731>got <00:35:11.964>loads <00:35:12.198>of, <00:35:12.431>of <00:35:12.665>traction.

858
00:35:13.425 --> 00:35:16.045
<00:35:13.425>And <00:35:13.625>the <00:35:13.825>game <00:35:14.025>actually <00:35:14.225>spawned <00:35:14.425>multiple <00:35:14.625>sequels <00:35:14.825>in

859
00:35:16.045 --> 00:35:17.285
<00:35:16.045>English, <00:35:16.417>German, <00:35:16.788>and <00:35:17.161>Japanese.

860
00:35:17.385 --> 00:35:19.005
<00:35:17.385>And <00:35:17.618>the <00:35:17.851>growing <00:35:18.085>part <00:35:18.318>about <00:35:18.551>this <00:35:18.785>is,

861
00:35:19.025 --> 00:35:21.165
<00:35:19.025>it <00:35:19.225>was <00:35:19.425>spreading <00:35:19.625>the <00:35:19.825>message <00:35:20.025>the <00:35:20.225>whole <00:35:20.425>time,

862
00:35:21.165 --> 00:35:22.445
<00:35:21.165>which <00:35:21.453>was <00:35:21.741>exactly <00:35:22.029>their <00:35:22.317>goal.

863
00:35:22.445 --> 00:35:23.485
<00:35:22.445>In <00:35:22.632>fact, <00:35:22.819>it <00:35:23.006>was <00:35:23.193>so <00:35:23.381>popular

864
00:35:23.715 --> 00:35:25.925
<00:35:23.715>that <00:35:23.855>they <00:35:23.995>even <00:35:24.135>put <00:35:24.275>out <00:35:24.415>a <00:35:24.555>Christmas <00:35:24.695>edition <00:35:24.835>for <00:35:24.975>the <00:35:25.115>game.

865
00:35:26.705 --> 00:35:28.365
<00:35:26.705>Um, <00:35:27.171>there's <00:35:27.638>also, <00:35:28.105>uh,

866
00:35:28.515 --> 00:35:30.965
<00:35:28.515>some <00:35:28.748>exciting <00:35:28.981>work <00:35:29.214>going <00:35:29.448>on <00:35:29.681>in <00:35:29.915>rehabilitation

867
00:35:30.965 --> 00:35:33.045
<00:35:30.965>where <00:35:31.198>they're <00:35:31.431>taking <00:35:31.665>the <00:35:31.898>care <00:35:32.131>lab, <00:35:32.365>um,

868
00:35:33.105 --> 00:35:35.005
<00:35:33.105>that's <00:35:33.385>at <00:35:33.665>Walter <00:35:33.945>Reed <00:35:34.225>Military <00:35:34.505>Hospital.

869
00:35:35.225 --> 00:35:38.165
<00:35:35.225>Um, <00:35:35.380>and <00:35:35.536>they're <00:35:35.691>helping <00:35:35.847>people <00:35:36.002>who <00:35:36.158>have <00:35:36.313>gone <00:35:36.469>through <00:35:36.625>surgery

870
00:35:38.825 --> 00:35:43.405
<00:35:38.825>to, <00:35:38.952>um, <00:35:39.079>uh, <00:35:39.206>to <00:35:39.334>blur, <00:35:39.461>to <00:35:39.588>regain <00:35:39.715>mobility <00:35:39.843>in <00:35:39.970>a <00:35:40.097>virtual <00:35:40.225>space.

871
00:35:43.905 --> 00:35:45.925
<00:35:43.905>Um, <00:35:44.185>along <00:35:44.465>these <00:35:44.745>same <00:35:45.025>lines, <00:35:45.305>uh,

872
00:35:46.045 --> 00:35:48.565
<00:35:46.045>a <00:35:46.245>game <00:35:46.445>called <00:35:46.645>Vera <00:35:46.845>actually <00:35:47.045>got <00:35:47.245>FDA <00:35:47.445>approval.

873
00:35:48.745 --> 00:35:51.005
<00:35:48.745>And <00:35:48.944>this <00:35:49.145>is <00:35:49.345>a <00:35:49.545>game <00:35:49.745>like <00:35:49.944>SI <00:35:50.145>simulation,

874
00:35:51.135 --> 00:35:53.525
<00:35:51.135>which <00:35:51.368>uses <00:35:51.601>motion <00:35:51.835>tracking <00:35:52.068>for <00:35:52.301>physical <00:35:52.535>therapy.

875
00:35:54.225 --> 00:35:57.365
<00:35:54.225>Um, <00:35:54.365>even <00:35:54.505>now, <00:35:54.645>this <00:35:54.785>is, <00:35:54.924>this <00:35:55.065>is <00:35:55.205>a <00:35:55.345>very <00:35:55.485>tiny <00:35:55.625>subset

876
00:35:57.665 --> 00:35:59.685
<00:35:57.665>and <00:35:58.015>a <00:35:58.365>very <00:35:58.715>tiny <00:35:59.065>and,

877
00:36:00.025 --> 00:36:02.845
<00:36:00.025>and <00:36:00.258>non, <00:36:00.491>uh, <00:36:00.725>it's <00:36:00.958>a <00:36:01.191>non-trivial <00:36:01.425>amount,

878
00:36:02.945 --> 00:36:05.685
<00:36:02.945>but <00:36:03.120>still, <00:36:03.295>uh, <00:36:03.470>very, <00:36:03.645>very <00:36:03.820>small <00:36:03.995>has <00:36:04.170>shown, <00:36:04.345>uh,

879
00:36:05.905 --> 00:36:07.645
<00:36:05.905>so <00:36:06.138>this <00:36:06.371>was <00:36:06.605>a <00:36:06.838>specific <00:36:07.071>study, <00:36:07.305>um,

880
00:36:07.915 --> 00:36:09.565
<00:36:07.915>that <00:36:08.195>is <00:36:08.475>based <00:36:08.755>at <00:36:09.035>Duke <00:36:09.315>University.

881
00:36:09.785 --> 00:36:13.125
<00:36:09.785>So <00:36:09.940>basically, <00:36:10.096>patients <00:36:10.251>are <00:36:10.407>wearing <00:36:10.562>an <00:36:10.718>exoskeleton <00:36:10.873>in <00:36:11.029>a <00:36:11.185>game

882
00:36:13.125 --> 00:36:17.485
<00:36:13.125>environment, <00:36:13.265>and <00:36:13.405>it <00:36:13.545>shows, <00:36:13.685>um, <00:36:13.825>it <00:36:13.965>shows <00:36:14.105>that <00:36:14.245>they <00:36:14.385>can <00:36:14.525>regain

883
00:36:18.125 --> 00:36:20.525
<00:36:18.125>s <00:36:18.265>people <00:36:18.405>who <00:36:18.545>are <00:36:18.685>fully <00:36:18.825>paralyzed, <00:36:18.965>uh, <00:36:19.105>in <00:36:19.245>their <00:36:19.385>lower <00:36:19.525>limbs,

884
00:36:20.525 --> 00:36:22.965
<00:36:20.525>that <00:36:20.805>they <00:36:21.085>can <00:36:21.365>regain <00:36:21.645>non-trivial <00:36:21.925>sensation

885
00:36:23.305 --> 00:36:24.325
<00:36:23.305>and <00:36:23.763>muscle <00:36:24.223>control.

886
00:36:24.515 --> 00:36:26.845
<00:36:24.515>It's, <00:36:24.714>it's <00:36:24.915>still <00:36:25.115>very, <00:36:25.315>very <00:36:25.515>small, <00:36:25.714>tiny <00:36:25.915>subset,

887
00:36:27.025 --> 00:36:28.365
<00:36:27.025>but <00:36:27.266>it's <00:36:27.507>at <00:36:27.748>least <00:36:27.989>interesting <00:36:28.231>and,

888
00:36:28.365 --> 00:36:30.085
<00:36:28.365>and <00:36:28.598>it's <00:36:28.831>an <00:36:29.064>interesting <00:36:29.298>proof <00:36:29.531>of <00:36:29.765>concept.

889
00:36:30.625 --> 00:36:32.605
<00:36:30.625>And <00:36:30.858>we're <00:36:31.091>actually <00:36:31.325>seeing <00:36:31.558>at <00:36:31.791>this <00:36:32.025>point,

890
00:36:32.695 --> 00:36:36.885
<00:36:32.695>games <00:36:32.870>are <00:36:33.045>actually <00:36:33.220>showing <00:36:33.395>up <00:36:33.570>in <00:36:33.745>schools <00:36:33.920>of <00:36:34.095>medicine.

891
00:36:36.985 --> 00:36:40.205
<00:36:36.985>So <00:36:37.125>this <00:36:37.265>specific <00:36:37.405>lab <00:36:37.545>here <00:36:37.685>is <00:36:37.825>in <00:36:37.965>the <00:36:38.105>University <00:36:38.245>of <00:36:38.385>Utah.

892
00:36:40.465 --> 00:36:42.245
<00:36:40.465>And <00:36:40.698>so <00:36:40.931>we're <00:36:41.165>having <00:36:41.398>schools <00:36:41.631>of <00:36:41.865>medicine

893
00:36:42.245 --> 00:36:44.445
<00:36:42.245>and <00:36:42.478>Game <00:36:42.711>Labs <00:36:42.944>co-located <00:36:43.178>with <00:36:43.411>one <00:36:43.645>another,

894
00:36:44.445 --> 00:36:45.765
<00:36:44.445>which <00:36:44.742>is <00:36:45.039>really <00:36:45.336>pretty <00:36:45.633>exciting.

895
00:36:46.145 --> 00:36:49.325
<00:36:46.145>Um, <00:36:46.300>games <00:36:46.456>are <00:36:46.611>also <00:36:46.767>being <00:36:46.922>used <00:36:47.078>to <00:36:47.233>treat <00:36:47.389>anxiety, <00:36:47.545>um,

896
00:36:49.585 --> 00:36:53.685
<00:36:49.585>and <00:36:49.740>A <00:36:49.896>DHD <00:36:50.051>um, <00:36:50.207>games <00:36:50.362>are <00:36:50.518>also <00:36:50.673>being <00:36:50.829>used, <00:36:50.985>um,

897
00:36:53.785 --> 00:36:55.885
<00:36:53.785>to <00:36:54.134>help <00:36:54.484>dementia <00:36:54.835>patients <00:36:55.185>reminisce.

898
00:36:56.065 --> 00:36:58.845
<00:36:56.065>And <00:36:56.220>some <00:36:56.376>of <00:36:56.531>these <00:36:56.687>interesting <00:36:56.842>studies <00:36:56.998>that <00:36:57.153>I <00:36:57.309>think, <00:36:57.465>um,

899
00:36:59.485 --> 00:37:02.085
<00:36:59.485>actually, <00:36:59.625>uh, <00:36:59.765>is <00:36:59.905>be <00:37:00.045>juul, <00:37:00.185>there <00:37:00.325>was <00:37:00.465>this <00:37:00.605>study <00:37:00.745>that <00:37:00.885>showed

900
00:37:02.155 --> 00:37:06.205
<00:37:02.155>that <00:37:02.262>it <00:37:02.370>was <00:37:02.478>as <00:37:02.585>good <00:37:02.693>for <00:37:02.801>anxiety <00:37:02.908>as <00:37:03.016>a <00:37:03.124>low <00:37:03.231>dose <00:37:03.339>of <00:37:03.447>Zan <00:37:03.555>Xanax.

901
00:37:06.425 --> 00:37:09.165
<00:37:06.425>Um, <00:37:06.600>there's <00:37:06.775>been <00:37:06.950>games, <00:37:07.125>uh, <00:37:07.300>that <00:37:07.475>have <00:37:07.650>been <00:37:07.825>designed

902
00:37:09.165 --> 00:37:12.525
<00:37:09.165>to <00:37:09.365>help <00:37:09.565>cancer <00:37:09.765>patients <00:37:09.965>manage <00:37:10.165>their <00:37:10.365>anxiety, <00:37:10.565>um,

903
00:37:12.625 --> 00:37:15.605
<00:37:12.625>and <00:37:12.800>even <00:37:12.975>games <00:37:13.150>that <00:37:13.325>have <00:37:13.500>helped, <00:37:13.675>uh, <00:37:13.850>burn <00:37:14.025>victims,

904
00:37:16.265 --> 00:37:17.445
<00:37:16.265>um, <00:37:16.796>get <00:37:17.327>treatment.

905
00:37:17.545 --> 00:37:19.925
<00:37:17.545>And <00:37:17.825>in <00:37:18.105>2011, <00:37:18.385>uh, <00:37:18.665>the <00:37:18.945>military,

906
00:37:19.945 --> 00:37:23.565
<00:37:19.945>the <00:37:20.085>US <00:37:20.225>military <00:37:20.365>conduct <00:37:20.505>a <00:37:20.645>study <00:37:20.785>with <00:37:20.925>this, <00:37:21.065>um, <00:37:21.205>uh, <00:37:21.345>uh,

907
00:37:23.685 --> 00:37:24.765
<00:37:23.685>a <00:37:23.928>project <00:37:24.171>called <00:37:24.413>Snow <00:37:24.656>World.

908
00:37:24.905 --> 00:37:28.325
<00:37:24.905>And <00:37:25.045>for <00:37:25.185>soldiers <00:37:25.325>who <00:37:25.465>were <00:37:25.605>in <00:37:25.745>the <00:37:25.885>worst <00:37:26.025>pain, <00:37:26.165>it <00:37:26.305>showed

909
00:37:28.445 --> 00:37:30.205
<00:37:28.445>that <00:37:28.678>snow <00:37:28.911>world <00:37:29.145>worked <00:37:29.378>better <00:37:29.611>than <00:37:29.845>morphine,

910
00:37:30.205 --> 00:37:31.205
<00:37:30.205>which <00:37:30.654>is <00:37:31.105>astounding.

911
00:37:31.585 --> 00:37:34.725
<00:37:31.585>Um, <00:37:31.725>and <00:37:31.865>obviously, <00:37:32.005>um, <00:37:32.145>you <00:37:32.285>know, <00:37:32.425>games <00:37:32.565>are <00:37:32.705>also <00:37:32.845>being <00:37:32.985>used

912
00:37:34.865 --> 00:37:38.565
<00:37:34.865>to <00:37:35.004>treat, <00:37:35.145>uh, <00:37:35.285>a <00:37:35.424>whole <00:37:35.564>variety <00:37:35.705>of <00:37:35.845>things <00:37:35.984>from <00:37:36.125>PTSD, <00:37:36.265>um,

913
00:37:38.705 --> 00:37:41.005
<00:37:38.705>to <00:37:38.985>pain <00:37:39.265>management <00:37:39.545>and <00:37:39.825>anxiety <00:37:40.105>management.

914
00:37:41.625 --> 00:37:43.725
<00:37:41.625>And <00:37:41.825>there's <00:37:42.025>actually, <00:37:42.225>uh, <00:37:42.425>a <00:37:42.625>surgical <00:37:42.825>training <00:37:43.025>tool

915
00:37:43.795 --> 00:37:47.245
<00:37:43.795>that <00:37:43.995>got <00:37:44.195>time <00:37:44.395>magazines <00:37:44.595>best <00:37:44.795>inventions <00:37:44.995>of <00:37:45.195>2019.

916
00:37:47.705 --> 00:37:50.525
<00:37:47.705>And, <00:37:47.904>uh, <00:37:48.105>advocates <00:37:48.305>like <00:37:48.505>Jane <00:37:48.705>McGonigal, <00:37:48.904>who, <00:37:49.105>uh,

917
00:37:50.535 --> 00:37:52.045
<00:37:50.535>wrote <00:37:50.806>a <00:37:51.078>book <00:37:51.350>called <00:37:51.622>Super <00:37:51.894>Better,

918
00:37:52.075 --> 00:37:54.965
<00:37:52.075>have <00:37:52.230>a <00:37:52.386>long <00:37:52.541>pointed <00:37:52.697>the <00:37:52.852>benefits <00:37:53.008>of <00:37:53.163>games, <00:37:53.319>not <00:37:53.475>just

919
00:37:54.965 --> 00:37:57.525
<00:37:54.965>for <00:37:55.140>healthcare, <00:37:55.315>uh, <00:37:55.490>but <00:37:55.665>for <00:37:55.840>many <00:37:56.015>aspects <00:37:56.190>of <00:37:56.365>life.

920
00:37:57.865 --> 00:37:59.485
<00:37:57.865>So <00:37:58.040>I <00:37:58.214>said, <00:37:58.390>I'd <00:37:58.564>come <00:37:58.740>back <00:37:58.915>to <00:37:59.089>this <00:37:59.265>one,

921
00:37:59.545 --> 00:38:02.285
<00:37:59.545>and <00:37:59.745>this <00:37:59.945>is <00:38:00.145>what <00:38:00.345>stories, <00:38:00.545>so <00:38:00.745>what, <00:38:00.945>that's

922
00:38:02.285 --> 00:38:05.205
<00:38:02.285>what <00:38:02.440>stories <00:38:02.596>games <00:38:02.751>do <00:38:02.907>tell, <00:38:03.062>but <00:38:03.218>what <00:38:03.373>don't <00:38:03.529>they <00:38:03.685>tell?

923
00:38:05.665 --> 00:38:07.965
<00:38:05.665>So, <00:38:05.805>um, <00:38:05.945>early <00:38:06.085>on, <00:38:06.225>I <00:38:06.365>said, <00:38:06.505>I'd <00:38:06.645>come <00:38:06.785>back <00:38:06.925>to <00:38:07.065>this,

924
00:38:08.025 --> 00:38:10.965
<00:38:08.025>and <00:38:08.165>part <00:38:08.305>of <00:38:08.445>my <00:38:08.585>story <00:38:08.725>relates <00:38:08.865>to <00:38:09.005>the <00:38:09.145>experiences <00:38:09.285>that <00:38:09.425>games

925
00:38:11.735 --> 00:38:15.645
<00:38:11.735>don't <00:38:11.890>quite <00:38:12.046>yet <00:38:12.201>offer, <00:38:12.357>um, <00:38:12.512>or <00:38:12.668>don't <00:38:12.823>offer <00:38:12.979>maybe <00:38:13.135>enough.

926
00:38:15.825 --> 00:38:19.445
<00:38:15.825>And <00:38:15.964>if <00:38:16.105>you <00:38:16.245>Google <00:38:16.384>game <00:38:16.524>protagonist, <00:38:16.665>this <00:38:16.805>is <00:38:16.944>the <00:38:17.085>first <00:38:17.225>half

927
00:38:19.445 --> 00:38:22.205
<00:38:19.445>of <00:38:19.572>the <00:38:19.699>image <00:38:19.826>that <00:38:19.954>you <00:38:20.081>get, <00:38:20.208>and <00:38:20.335>this <00:38:20.463>is <00:38:20.590>the <00:38:20.717>other <00:38:20.845>half.

928
00:38:22.265 --> 00:38:25.365
<00:38:22.265>So <00:38:22.440>it's, <00:38:22.615>it's <00:38:22.790>not <00:38:22.964>really <00:38:23.140>the <00:38:23.315>most <00:38:23.490>diverse <00:38:23.665>group.

929
00:38:25.585 --> 00:38:28.845
<00:38:25.585>And <00:38:25.725>in <00:38:25.865>fact, <00:38:26.005>it <00:38:26.145>wasn't <00:38:26.285>until <00:38:26.425>1986 <00:38:26.565>that <00:38:26.705>you <00:38:26.845>could <00:38:26.985>play

930
00:38:28.905 --> 00:38:30.445
<00:38:28.905>as <00:38:29.136>a <00:38:29.367>female <00:38:29.598>character <00:38:29.829>in <00:38:30.060>a <00:38:30.291>game,

931
00:38:30.585 --> 00:38:33.725
<00:38:30.585>and <00:38:30.740>of <00:38:30.896>all <00:38:31.051>games <00:38:31.207>that <00:38:31.362>was <00:38:31.518>leather <00:38:31.673>goddesses <00:38:31.829>of <00:38:31.985>Bobos.

932
00:38:33.905 --> 00:38:36.045
<00:38:33.905>And <00:38:34.060>just <00:38:34.216>to <00:38:34.371>clarify <00:38:34.527>that, <00:38:34.682>you <00:38:34.838>could <00:38:34.993>choose <00:38:35.149>to <00:38:35.305>play

933
00:38:36.045 --> 00:38:37.445
<00:38:36.045>as <00:38:36.255>a <00:38:36.465>female <00:38:36.675>character <00:38:36.885>in <00:38:37.095>a <00:38:37.305>game.

934
00:38:37.865 --> 00:38:40.525
<00:38:37.865>So <00:38:37.992>up <00:38:38.119>until <00:38:38.246>this <00:38:38.374>point <00:38:38.501>in <00:38:38.628>time, <00:38:38.755>you <00:38:38.883>could <00:38:39.010>play <00:38:39.137>as <00:38:39.265>all

935
00:38:40.525 --> 00:38:41.525
<00:38:40.525>of <00:38:40.825>these <00:38:41.125>things, <00:38:41.425>right?

936
00:38:41.525 --> 00:38:44.685
<00:38:41.525>Like, <00:38:41.632>you <00:38:41.740>could <00:38:41.848>play <00:38:41.955>as <00:38:42.063>a <00:38:42.171>tank, <00:38:42.278>a <00:38:42.386>bear, <00:38:42.494>a <00:38:42.601>ghost, <00:38:42.709>as <00:38:42.817>long <00:38:42.925>as

937
00:38:44.685 --> 00:38:45.805
<00:38:44.685>that <00:38:44.886>ghost <00:38:45.088>was <00:38:45.289>a <00:38:45.491>male <00:38:45.692>ghost,

938
00:38:46.305 --> 00:38:47.725
<00:38:46.305>you <00:38:46.518>just <00:38:46.731>couldn't <00:38:46.944>play <00:38:47.156>as <00:38:47.370>a <00:38:47.583>woman.

939
00:38:47.945 --> 00:38:49.805
<00:38:47.945>And <00:38:48.225>nothing <00:38:48.505>says <00:38:48.785>you <00:38:49.065>don't <00:38:49.345>belong.

940
00:38:49.875 --> 00:38:51.605
<00:38:49.875>Like, <00:38:50.155>you <00:38:50.435>know, <00:38:50.715>choose <00:38:50.995>your <00:38:51.275>character

941
00:38:51.705 --> 00:38:53.925
<00:38:51.705>and <00:38:51.880>it's <00:38:52.055>an <00:38:52.230>all <00:38:52.404>male <00:38:52.580>cast <00:38:52.755>of <00:38:52.930>characters, <00:38:53.105>or,

942
00:38:54.185 --> 00:38:56.165
<00:38:54.185>and <00:38:54.418>even <00:38:54.651>our <00:38:54.884>most <00:38:55.118>iconic <00:38:55.351>game <00:38:55.585>characters

943
00:38:56.165 --> 00:38:57.485
<00:38:56.165>like <00:38:56.462>Princess <00:38:56.759>Peach, <00:38:57.056>for <00:38:57.353>instance.

944
00:38:57.835 --> 00:38:59.525
<00:38:57.835>Like, <00:38:58.115>she <00:38:58.395>needs <00:38:58.675>to <00:38:58.955>be <00:38:59.235>rescued.

945
00:38:59.525 --> 00:39:01.685
<00:38:59.525>Like, <00:38:59.700>what <00:38:59.875>if <00:39:00.050>she <00:39:00.225>was <00:39:00.400>a <00:39:00.575>self <00:39:00.750>rescuing <00:39:00.925>princess?

946
00:39:01.705 --> 00:39:04.045
<00:39:01.705>Or, <00:39:01.860>or <00:39:02.016>like, <00:39:02.171>what <00:39:02.327>if <00:39:02.482>she <00:39:02.638>was <00:39:02.793>the <00:39:02.949>one, <00:39:03.105>um,

947
00:39:04.145 --> 00:39:05.405
<00:39:04.145>who <00:39:04.428>was <00:39:04.712>doing <00:39:04.995>the <00:39:05.279>rescuing?

948
00:39:06.125 --> 00:39:08.065
<00:39:06.125>Um, <00:39:06.280>and <00:39:06.436>it's <00:39:06.591>not <00:39:06.747>just <00:39:06.902>in <00:39:07.058>the <00:39:07.213>past <00:39:07.369>either, <00:39:07.525>right?

949
00:39:08.065 --> 00:39:10.665
<00:39:08.065>Like <00:39:08.240>this <00:39:08.415>actually <00:39:08.590>continues <00:39:08.765>on <00:39:08.940>up, <00:39:09.115>you <00:39:09.290>know, <00:39:09.465>through

950
00:39:10.665 --> 00:39:11.665
<00:39:10.665>to <00:39:11.115>modern <00:39:11.565>games.

951
00:39:11.735 --> 00:39:13.345
<00:39:11.735>Like <00:39:11.968>this <00:39:12.201>is <00:39:12.435>a <00:39:12.668>game <00:39:12.901>that's <00:39:13.135>actually,

952
00:39:13.345 --> 00:39:16.065
<00:39:13.345>I <00:39:13.472>wanna <00:39:13.599>say <00:39:13.726>this <00:39:13.854>is <00:39:13.981>a <00:39:14.108>beautiful <00:39:14.235>game, <00:39:14.363>but <00:39:14.490>it's <00:39:14.617>called <00:39:14.745>ico.

953
00:39:16.165 --> 00:39:19.305
<00:39:16.165>And <00:39:16.365>basically <00:39:16.565>this <00:39:16.765>guy <00:39:16.965>leads <00:39:17.165>drags <00:39:17.365>this <00:39:17.565>woman

954
00:39:19.305 --> 00:39:20.665
<00:39:19.305>through <00:39:19.549>the <00:39:19.794>world <00:39:20.039>by <00:39:20.284>her <00:39:20.529>hand,

955
00:39:20.685 --> 00:39:22.345
<00:39:20.685>and <00:39:20.965>she's, <00:39:21.245>it's <00:39:21.525>a <00:39:21.805>beautiful <00:39:22.085>game,

956
00:39:22.405 --> 00:39:23.825
<00:39:22.405>but <00:39:22.660>you <00:39:22.916>know, <00:39:23.171>she's, <00:39:23.427>you <00:39:23.683>know,

957
00:39:23.995 --> 00:39:25.505
<00:39:23.995>she's <00:39:24.266>being <00:39:24.538>dragged <00:39:24.810>through <00:39:25.082>the <00:39:25.354>world.

958
00:39:25.575 --> 00:39:27.465
<00:39:25.575>It's, <00:39:25.714>it, <00:39:25.855>you <00:39:25.995>know, <00:39:26.134>it's <00:39:26.274>not, <00:39:26.415>it's <00:39:26.555>not <00:39:26.694>the <00:39:26.835>most, <00:39:26.975>um,

959
00:39:27.615 --> 00:39:29.265
<00:39:27.615>it's <00:39:27.895>not <00:39:28.174>the <00:39:28.455>most <00:39:28.734>inspiring <00:39:29.015>role.

960
00:39:29.725 --> 00:39:32.545
<00:39:29.725>And <00:39:29.958>even <00:39:30.191>Assassin's <00:39:30.424>Creed <00:39:30.658>Unity <00:39:30.891>in <00:39:31.125>2014,

961
00:39:32.545 --> 00:39:34.865
<00:39:32.545>they <00:39:32.700>said <00:39:32.856>you <00:39:33.011>could <00:39:33.167>not <00:39:33.322>play <00:39:33.478>as <00:39:33.633>a <00:39:33.789>female <00:39:33.945>character

962
00:39:34.865 --> 00:39:36.865
<00:39:34.865>because <00:39:35.145>it, <00:39:35.424>it <00:39:35.705>was <00:39:35.984>additional <00:39:36.265>work.

963
00:39:37.405 --> 00:39:40.625
<00:39:37.405>Um, <00:39:37.532>uh, <00:39:37.659>and <00:39:37.786>so, <00:39:37.914>you <00:39:38.041>know, <00:39:38.168>people <00:39:38.295>wondered, <00:39:38.423>why <00:39:38.550>did <00:39:38.677>you <00:39:38.805>have

964
00:39:40.625 --> 00:39:42.265
<00:39:40.625>to <00:39:40.975>cut <00:39:41.325>female, <00:39:41.675>uh, <00:39:42.025>assassins.

965
00:39:42.325 --> 00:39:46.345
<00:39:42.325>It, <00:39:42.441>it <00:39:42.558>led <00:39:42.674>to, <00:39:42.791>um, <00:39:42.908>it <00:39:43.024>led <00:39:43.141>to <00:39:43.258>some, <00:39:43.375>some <00:39:43.491>ex <00:39:43.608>exceptional, <00:39:43.725>uh,

966
00:39:46.455 --> 00:39:47.665
<00:39:46.455>cosplay <00:39:46.999>outfits <00:39:47.544>though.

967
00:39:48.125 --> 00:39:50.385
<00:39:48.125>Um, <00:39:48.280>and <00:39:48.436>so <00:39:48.591>there <00:39:48.747>was <00:39:48.902>also <00:39:49.058>things <00:39:49.213>like, <00:39:49.369>you <00:39:49.525>know,

968
00:39:50.385 --> 00:39:52.505
<00:39:50.385>the <00:39:50.735>Hearthstone <00:39:51.085>tournament, <00:39:51.435>um, <00:39:51.785>uh,

969
00:39:52.645 --> 00:39:54.065
<00:39:52.645>didn't <00:39:52.964>allow <00:39:53.284>women <00:39:53.603>to <00:39:53.923>play.

970
00:39:54.165 --> 00:39:57.105
<00:39:54.165>Now, <00:39:54.340>that <00:39:54.515>was <00:39:54.690>very, <00:39:54.865>that <00:39:55.040>was <00:39:55.215>within <00:39:55.390>24 <00:39:55.565>hours

971
00:39:57.115 --> 00:39:58.945
<00:39:57.115>after <00:39:57.464>much <00:39:57.814>Twitter <00:39:58.165>rage, <00:39:58.515>um,

972
00:39:59.005 --> 00:40:00.465
<00:39:59.005>and <00:39:59.333>heavy <00:39:59.662>push <00:39:59.990>from <00:40:00.319>Blizzard,

973
00:40:00.465 --> 00:40:02.105
<00:40:00.465>the <00:40:00.745>tournament <00:40:01.025>actually <00:40:01.305>changed <00:40:01.585>its <00:40:01.865>mind.

974
00:40:02.105 --> 00:40:03.465
<00:40:02.105>But <00:40:02.279>I <00:40:02.454>wanna <00:40:02.629>say <00:40:02.804>this <00:40:02.979>was <00:40:03.154>not <00:40:03.329>Blizzard.

975
00:40:03.465 --> 00:40:05.065
<00:40:03.465>This <00:40:03.665>was <00:40:03.865>actually <00:40:04.065>a <00:40:04.265>tournament <00:40:04.465>that <00:40:04.665>did <00:40:04.865>this.

976
00:40:05.645 --> 00:40:07.185
<00:40:05.645>Um, <00:40:06.107>but <00:40:06.569>historically <00:40:07.031>speaking,

977
00:40:07.245 --> 00:40:09.505
<00:40:07.245>you <00:40:07.384>really <00:40:07.525>have <00:40:07.665>a <00:40:07.805>better <00:40:07.944>chance <00:40:08.085>of <00:40:08.225>playing <00:40:08.365>as <00:40:08.505>a <00:40:08.645>robot,

978
00:40:09.625 --> 00:40:12.785
<00:40:09.625>a <00:40:09.752>dog, <00:40:09.879>or <00:40:10.006>a <00:40:10.134>hedgehog, <00:40:10.261>uh, <00:40:10.388>than <00:40:10.515>a <00:40:10.643>female <00:40:10.770>lead <00:40:10.897>in <00:40:11.025>games.

979
00:40:12.885 --> 00:40:14.265
<00:40:12.885>And, <00:40:13.133>and <00:40:13.381>sometimes <00:40:13.630>we <00:40:13.878>hear <00:40:14.127>this

980
00:40:14.265 --> 00:40:15.705
<00:40:14.265>because <00:40:14.589>women <00:40:14.913>don't <00:40:15.237>play <00:40:15.560>games.

981
00:40:16.085 --> 00:40:17.145
<00:40:16.085>Um, <00:40:16.323>but, <00:40:16.562>you <00:40:16.800>know, <00:40:17.038>like

982
00:40:17.145 --> 00:40:18.945
<00:40:17.145>how <00:40:17.425>many <00:40:17.705>hedgehogs <00:40:17.985>play <00:40:18.265>games, <00:40:18.545>right?

983
00:40:19.085 --> 00:40:22.305
<00:40:19.085>And, <00:40:19.225>and <00:40:19.365>when <00:40:19.505>women <00:40:19.645>show <00:40:19.785>up <00:40:19.925>in <00:40:20.065>games <00:40:20.205>sometimes, <00:40:20.345>this <00:40:20.485>is

984
00:40:22.305 --> 00:40:23.505
<00:40:22.305>what <00:40:22.484>we <00:40:22.665>look <00:40:22.845>like <00:40:23.025>to <00:40:23.205>me, <00:40:23.385>like

985
00:40:23.505 --> 00:40:25.505
<00:40:23.505>that <00:40:23.705>just <00:40:23.905>looks <00:40:24.105>like <00:40:24.305>water <00:40:24.505>balloons <00:40:24.705>in <00:40:24.905>pain.

986
00:40:26.165 --> 00:40:28.745
<00:40:26.165>Um, <00:40:26.292>or, <00:40:26.419>you <00:40:26.546>know, <00:40:26.674>we, <00:40:26.801>we <00:40:26.928>look <00:40:27.055>like <00:40:27.183>we're <00:40:27.310>on <00:40:27.437>our <00:40:27.565>way

987
00:40:28.745 --> 00:40:29.905
<00:40:28.745>to <00:40:29.093>a <00:40:29.441>stripping <00:40:29.789>engagement.

988
00:40:30.045 --> 00:40:31.745
<00:40:30.045>Um, <00:40:30.278>I <00:40:30.511>mean, <00:40:30.745>look <00:40:30.978>at <00:40:31.211>these <00:40:31.445>outfits

989
00:40:31.745 --> 00:40:33.265
<00:40:31.745>and <00:40:31.897>like, <00:40:32.049>I'm, <00:40:32.201>I'm <00:40:32.353>not <00:40:32.505>trying <00:40:32.656>to <00:40:32.808>say <00:40:32.961>like <00:40:33.113>stripping

990
00:40:33.265 --> 00:40:34.625
<00:40:33.265>engagements <00:40:33.571>are <00:40:33.877>fine, <00:40:34.183>but <00:40:34.489>like,

991
00:40:34.895 --> 00:40:36.465
<00:40:34.895>what <00:40:35.175>if <00:40:35.455>I <00:40:35.735>wanted <00:40:36.015>another <00:40:36.295>choice?

992
00:40:36.605 --> 00:40:37.865
<00:40:36.605>And, <00:40:36.888>and <00:40:37.172>compare <00:40:37.455>this <00:40:37.738>to

993
00:40:37.925 --> 00:40:40.305
<00:40:37.925>how <00:40:38.158>our <00:40:38.391>classic <00:40:38.625>male <00:40:38.858>heroes <00:40:39.091>look, <00:40:39.325>right?

994
00:40:40.395 --> 00:40:43.185
<00:40:40.395>These, <00:40:40.570>uh, <00:40:40.745>these <00:40:40.920>issues <00:40:41.095>of, <00:40:41.270>of <00:40:41.445>sexual, <00:40:41.620>you <00:40:41.795>know,

995
00:40:43.185 --> 00:40:45.785
<00:40:43.185>sexualization <00:40:43.418>and <00:40:43.651>arousal, <00:40:43.884>like <00:40:44.118>just <00:40:44.351>don't <00:40:44.585>exist.

996
00:40:46.245 --> 00:40:49.465
<00:40:46.245>And <00:40:46.384>even <00:40:46.525>with <00:40:46.665>the <00:40:46.805>original <00:40:46.944>tomb <00:40:47.085>writer, <00:40:47.225>um, <00:40:47.365>like, <00:40:47.505>you <00:40:47.645>know,

997
00:40:50.045 --> 00:40:51.985
<00:40:50.045>you <00:40:50.245>probably, <00:40:50.445>you <00:40:50.645>may <00:40:50.845>not <00:40:51.045>know <00:40:51.245>this, <00:40:51.445>um,

998
00:40:52.125 --> 00:40:54.745
<00:40:52.125>but <00:40:52.358>the <00:40:52.591>original <00:40:52.825>boss <00:40:53.058>was <00:40:53.291>actually <00:40:53.525>embossed.

999
00:40:55.205 --> 00:40:57.705
<00:40:55.205>And <00:40:55.332>I <00:40:55.459>will <00:40:55.586>leave <00:40:55.714>it <00:40:55.841>to <00:40:55.968>you <00:40:56.095>to <00:40:56.223>figure <00:40:56.350>out <00:40:56.477>which <00:40:56.605>part

1000
00:40:57.705 --> 00:40:58.865
<00:40:57.705>of <00:40:57.966>the <00:40:58.227>box <00:40:58.488>was <00:40:58.749>embossed.

1001
00:40:59.645 --> 00:41:02.705
<00:40:59.645>Now, <00:40:59.800>fortunately, <00:40:59.956>we <00:41:00.111>have <00:41:00.267>come <00:41:00.422>a <00:41:00.578>very, <00:41:00.733>very <00:41:00.889>long <00:41:01.045>way,

1002
00:41:02.885 --> 00:41:04.625
<00:41:02.885>you <00:41:03.085>know, <00:41:03.285>and <00:41:03.485>there's <00:41:03.685>excellent <00:41:03.885>games <00:41:04.085>out <00:41:04.285>there,

1003
00:41:04.625 --> 00:41:06.945
<00:41:04.625>like <00:41:04.858>her <00:41:05.091>story <00:41:05.325>or, <00:41:05.558>or <00:41:05.791>Gone <00:41:06.025>Home

1004
00:41:07.085 --> 00:41:09.505
<00:41:07.085>or <00:41:07.318>Life <00:41:07.551>is <00:41:07.785>strange, <00:41:08.018>which <00:41:08.251>is <00:41:08.485>phenomenal.

1005
00:41:09.845 --> 00:41:12.585
<00:41:09.845>Um, <00:41:09.972>and <00:41:10.099>of <00:41:10.226>course, <00:41:10.354>it's <00:41:10.481>not <00:41:10.608>just <00:41:10.735>women, <00:41:10.863>you, <00:41:10.990>people <00:41:11.117>of <00:41:11.245>color

1006
00:41:13.285 --> 00:41:15.625
<00:41:13.285>and <00:41:13.634>L-G-B-T-Q-I <00:41:13.984>folks, <00:41:14.335>uh, <00:41:14.685>struggle

1007
00:41:15.645 --> 00:41:17.025
<00:41:15.645>to <00:41:15.852>find <00:41:16.059>themselves <00:41:16.266>in <00:41:16.473>games <00:41:16.680>at <00:41:16.887>all.

1008
00:41:17.445 --> 00:41:19.945
<00:41:17.445>Um, <00:41:17.645>origin <00:41:17.845>in <00:41:18.045>the <00:41:18.245>original <00:41:18.445>Sims, <00:41:18.645>for <00:41:18.845>instance,

1009
00:41:20.085 --> 00:41:22.625
<00:41:20.085>gay <00:41:20.240>characters <00:41:20.396>could <00:41:20.551>not <00:41:20.707>marry <00:41:20.862>or <00:41:21.018>even <00:41:21.173>fall <00:41:21.329>in <00:41:21.485>love

1010
00:41:22.805 --> 00:41:24.145
<00:41:22.805>and <00:41:23.106>in <00:41:23.408>World <00:41:23.709>of <00:41:24.011>Warcraft.

1011
00:41:24.525 --> 00:41:26.065
<00:41:24.525>Um, <00:41:24.871>they <00:41:25.218>actually, <00:41:25.564>now, <00:41:25.911>this,

1012
00:41:26.065 --> 00:41:29.145
<00:41:26.065>this <00:41:26.220>goes <00:41:26.376>back <00:41:26.531>quite <00:41:26.687>some <00:41:26.842>time, <00:41:26.998>blizzard <00:41:27.153>actually <00:41:27.309>asked, <00:41:27.465>uh,

1013
00:41:29.165 --> 00:41:32.785
<00:41:29.165>uh, <00:41:29.305>uh, <00:41:29.445>uh, <00:41:29.585>uh, <00:41:29.725>in <00:41:29.865>the <00:41:30.005>Gay <00:41:30.145>Boys, <00:41:30.285>which <00:41:30.425>was, <00:41:30.565>uh,

1014
00:41:32.805 --> 00:41:35.285
<00:41:32.805>an <00:41:33.004>in-game <00:41:33.205>guild <00:41:33.404>to <00:41:33.605>change <00:41:33.805>its <00:41:34.004>names, <00:41:34.205>right?

1015
00:41:35.425 --> 00:41:36.445
<00:41:35.425>It <00:41:35.608>to <00:41:35.792>change, <00:41:35.975>you <00:41:36.159>know, <00:41:36.343>because,

1016
00:41:36.555 --> 00:41:39.285
<00:41:36.555>because <00:41:36.730>their <00:41:36.904>name <00:41:37.080>was <00:41:37.254>bringing <00:41:37.430>on <00:41:37.605>harassment, <00:41:37.779>you <00:41:37.955>know,

1017
00:41:39.285 --> 00:41:41.605
<00:41:39.285>which <00:41:39.412>is <00:41:39.539>in, <00:41:39.666>in <00:41:39.794>other <00:41:39.921>words, <00:41:40.048>you <00:41:40.175>know, <00:41:40.303>it <00:41:40.430>kind <00:41:40.557>of <00:41:40.685>translates

1018
00:41:41.605 --> 00:41:43.805
<00:41:41.605>to <00:41:41.732>get <00:41:41.859>back <00:41:41.986>in <00:41:42.114>the <00:41:42.241>closet, <00:41:42.368>but <00:41:42.495>it's <00:41:42.623>for <00:41:42.750>your <00:41:42.877>own <00:41:43.005>good.

1019
00:41:44.075 --> 00:41:45.365
<00:41:44.075>This <00:41:44.307>did <00:41:44.539>not <00:41:44.771>go <00:41:45.003>over <00:41:45.236>well.

1020
00:41:45.625 --> 00:41:48.125
<00:41:45.625>Um, <00:41:45.825>and <00:41:46.025>so <00:41:46.225>actually <00:41:46.425>the <00:41:46.625>gay <00:41:46.825>community <00:41:47.025>protested,

1021
00:41:48.125 --> 00:41:50.365
<00:41:48.125>to <00:41:48.280>my <00:41:48.436>knowledge, <00:41:48.591>it <00:41:48.747>is <00:41:48.902>the <00:41:49.058>first <00:41:49.213>civil <00:41:49.369>rights <00:41:49.525>protest

1022
00:41:50.665 --> 00:41:51.885
<00:41:50.665>in <00:41:51.031>a <00:41:51.397>virtual <00:41:51.763>world.

1023
00:41:52.265 --> 00:41:54.645
<00:41:52.265>Um, <00:41:52.498>it <00:41:52.731>was <00:41:52.964>in <00:41:53.198>two, <00:41:53.431>uh, <00:41:53.665>2006,

1024
00:41:54.645 --> 00:41:57.405
<00:41:54.645>and <00:41:54.820>they <00:41:54.995>held <00:41:55.170>a <00:41:55.345>parade, <00:41:55.520>um, <00:41:55.695>a <00:41:55.870>march, <00:41:56.045>uh,

1025
00:41:57.565 --> 00:41:59.885
<00:41:57.565>a <00:41:57.798>a <00:41:58.031>a <00:41:58.265>a <00:41:58.498>gay <00:41:58.731>cruise, <00:41:58.965>everything.

1026
00:42:00.025 --> 00:42:03.565
<00:42:00.025>Um, <00:42:00.180>and <00:42:00.336>so <00:42:00.491>that <00:42:00.647>actually, <00:42:00.802>uh, <00:42:00.958>got <00:42:01.113>overturned <00:42:01.269>very <00:42:01.425>quickly.

1027
00:42:03.825 --> 00:42:07.405
<00:42:03.825>And <00:42:03.952>if <00:42:04.079>you're <00:42:04.206>a <00:42:04.334>person <00:42:04.461>of <00:42:04.588>color, <00:42:04.715>well, <00:42:04.843>this <00:42:04.970>isn't <00:42:05.097>so <00:42:05.225>great.

1028
00:42:07.625 --> 00:42:10.845
<00:42:07.625>Um, <00:42:07.780>sometimes <00:42:07.936>games <00:42:08.091>actually <00:42:08.247>just <00:42:08.402>put <00:42:08.558>in <00:42:08.713>something <00:42:08.869>called <00:42:09.025>a

1029
00:42:10.845 --> 00:42:12.885
<00:42:10.845>brown <00:42:11.044>slider, <00:42:11.245>as <00:42:11.444>if <00:42:11.645>that <00:42:11.845>solves <00:42:12.044>it <00:42:12.245>all.

1030
00:42:12.905 --> 00:42:15.765
<00:42:12.905>And <00:42:13.060>so <00:42:13.216>you <00:42:13.371>can <00:42:13.527>end <00:42:13.682>up <00:42:13.838>with <00:42:13.993>people <00:42:14.149>like <00:42:14.305>this

1031
00:42:15.865 --> 00:42:19.245
<00:42:15.865>who <00:42:16.020>look <00:42:16.176>European, <00:42:16.331>but <00:42:16.487>have <00:42:16.642>this <00:42:16.798>like <00:42:16.953>super <00:42:17.109>dark <00:42:17.265>tone

1032
00:42:19.425 --> 00:42:22.805
<00:42:19.425>or <00:42:19.625>other <00:42:19.825>games <00:42:20.025>which <00:42:20.225>have, <00:42:20.425>um, <00:42:20.625>you <00:42:20.825>know,

1033
00:42:22.805 --> 00:42:24.325
<00:42:22.805>and <00:42:23.000>it <00:42:23.195>basically <00:42:23.391>just <00:42:23.586>says, <00:42:23.782>well, <00:42:23.977>you're <00:42:24.173>not,

1034
00:42:24.325 --> 00:42:25.965
<00:42:24.325>we <00:42:24.500>didn't <00:42:24.674>think <00:42:24.850>of <00:42:25.024>you <00:42:25.200>while <00:42:25.375>making <00:42:25.549>this <00:42:25.725>game

1035
00:42:26.185 --> 00:42:28.285
<00:42:26.185>or <00:42:26.384>other <00:42:26.585>games, <00:42:26.785>which <00:42:26.985>just, <00:42:27.185>you <00:42:27.384>know, <00:42:27.585>don't,

1036
00:42:28.405 --> 00:42:30.285
<00:42:28.405>don't <00:42:28.755>have <00:42:29.105>any <00:42:29.455>additional <00:42:29.805>characteristics,

1037
00:42:30.585 --> 00:42:32.365
<00:42:30.585>but <00:42:30.818>just <00:42:31.051>change <00:42:31.285>the <00:42:31.518>skin <00:42:31.751>color, <00:42:31.985>right?

1038
00:42:32.425 --> 00:42:33.845
<00:42:32.425>And, <00:42:32.851>and <00:42:33.277>you, <00:42:33.703>or,

1039
00:42:33.905 --> 00:42:36.685
<00:42:33.905>or <00:42:34.045>like, <00:42:34.185>I <00:42:34.325>remember <00:42:34.465>my <00:42:34.605>son, <00:42:34.745>he <00:42:34.885>was <00:42:35.025>playing <00:42:35.165>a <00:42:35.305>game

1040
00:42:36.705 --> 00:42:39.085
<00:42:36.705>and <00:42:36.938>he <00:42:37.171>could <00:42:37.404>actually <00:42:37.638>adjust <00:42:37.871>his <00:42:38.105>glabella,

1041
00:42:39.145 --> 00:42:40.845
<00:42:39.145>but <00:42:39.378>he <00:42:39.611>could <00:42:39.845>not <00:42:40.078>make <00:42:40.311>a <00:42:40.545>game.

1042
00:42:41.105 --> 00:42:42.805
<00:42:41.105>He <00:42:41.385>could <00:42:41.665>not, <00:42:41.945>he's <00:42:42.225>mixed <00:42:42.505>race.

1043
00:42:42.805 --> 00:42:44.885
<00:42:42.805>He <00:42:43.004>could <00:42:43.205>not <00:42:43.404>make <00:42:43.605>himself <00:42:43.805>in <00:42:44.004>a <00:42:44.205>game,

1044
00:42:45.065 --> 00:42:46.525
<00:42:45.065>but <00:42:45.327>he <00:42:45.590>could <00:42:45.853>adjust <00:42:46.116>his <00:42:46.379>glabella.

1045
00:42:46.705 --> 00:42:50.005
<00:42:46.705>And <00:42:46.845>I <00:42:46.985>think <00:42:47.125>we <00:42:47.265>all <00:42:47.404>wanna <00:42:47.545>see <00:42:47.685>ourselves <00:42:47.825>in <00:42:47.965>games <00:42:48.105>regardless

1046
00:42:50.105 --> 00:42:52.805
<00:42:50.105>of <00:42:50.221>who <00:42:50.338>we <00:42:50.455>are, <00:42:50.571>how <00:42:50.688>old <00:42:50.805>we <00:42:50.921>are, <00:42:51.038>or <00:42:51.155>where <00:42:51.271>we <00:42:51.388>come <00:42:51.505>from.

1047
00:42:52.945 --> 00:42:54.885
<00:42:52.945>And, <00:42:53.145>you <00:42:53.345>know, <00:42:53.545>we <00:42:53.745>all <00:42:53.945>wanna <00:42:54.145>be <00:42:54.345>heroes

1048
00:42:54.885 --> 00:42:56.405
<00:42:54.885>and <00:42:55.158>heroes <00:42:55.432>in <00:42:55.705>our <00:42:55.979>own <00:42:56.253>story.

1049
00:42:56.625 --> 00:42:59.365
<00:42:56.625>And <00:42:56.800>I <00:42:56.975>have <00:42:57.150>no <00:42:57.325>idea <00:42:57.500>really <00:42:57.675>what <00:42:57.850>the <00:42:58.025>future

1050
00:42:59.385 --> 00:43:00.445
<00:42:59.385>of <00:42:59.703>games <00:43:00.021>will <00:43:00.339>hold.

1051
00:43:00.465 --> 00:43:02.605
<00:43:00.465>And <00:43:00.640>if <00:43:00.815>there's <00:43:00.990>one <00:43:01.165>thing <00:43:01.340>I'm <00:43:01.515>incredibly <00:43:01.690>grateful <00:43:01.865>for,

1052
00:43:02.665 --> 00:43:05.805
<00:43:02.665>you <00:43:02.820>know, <00:43:02.976>it's <00:43:03.131>for <00:43:03.287>the <00:43:03.442>people <00:43:03.598>who <00:43:03.753>are <00:43:03.909>coming <00:43:04.065>forward

1053
00:43:05.985 --> 00:43:08.365
<00:43:05.985>and <00:43:06.185>who <00:43:06.385>are <00:43:06.585>getting <00:43:06.785>their <00:43:06.985>career <00:43:07.185>started <00:43:07.385>now

1054
00:43:08.705 --> 00:43:10.645
<00:43:08.705>and <00:43:09.055>are <00:43:09.404>creating <00:43:09.755>tomorrow <00:43:10.105>stories.

1055
00:43:10.785 --> 00:43:12.845
<00:43:10.785>And <00:43:10.940>not <00:43:11.096>just <00:43:11.251>kids <00:43:11.407>who <00:43:11.562>are <00:43:11.718>learning <00:43:11.873>how <00:43:12.029>to <00:43:12.185>code,

1056
00:43:13.025 --> 00:43:15.085
<00:43:13.025>but <00:43:13.152>the <00:43:13.279>ones <00:43:13.406>who <00:43:13.534>are <00:43:13.661>learning <00:43:13.788>how <00:43:13.915>to <00:43:14.043>code <00:43:14.170>and <00:43:14.297>to <00:43:14.425>write

1057
00:43:15.085 --> 00:43:17.125
<00:43:15.085>and <00:43:15.318>to <00:43:15.551>design, <00:43:15.785>and <00:43:16.018>basically <00:43:16.251>to <00:43:16.485>create

1058
00:43:17.265 --> 00:43:19.125
<00:43:17.265>and <00:43:17.420>are <00:43:17.576>falling <00:43:17.731>in <00:43:17.887>love <00:43:18.042>with <00:43:18.198>tech, <00:43:18.353>like <00:43:18.509>I <00:43:18.665>did.

1059
00:43:19.225 --> 00:43:22.965
<00:43:19.225>And <00:43:19.341>I <00:43:19.458>do <00:43:19.575>wanna <00:43:19.691>say <00:43:19.808>one <00:43:19.924>thing <00:43:20.041>before <00:43:20.158>I <00:43:20.275>close, <00:43:20.391>and <00:43:20.508>if, <00:43:20.625>and,

1060
00:43:22.965 --> 00:43:25.285
<00:43:22.965>and <00:43:23.120>it <00:43:23.276>doesn't <00:43:23.431>fit <00:43:23.587>neatly <00:43:23.742>in <00:43:23.898>any <00:43:24.053>of <00:43:24.209>these <00:43:24.365>stories,

1061
00:43:25.505 --> 00:43:27.925
<00:43:25.505>and <00:43:25.680>if <00:43:25.855>you're <00:43:26.030>a <00:43:26.205>person <00:43:26.380>who's <00:43:26.555>always <00:43:26.730>felt <00:43:26.905>different,

1062
00:43:28.355 --> 00:43:30.565
<00:43:28.355>like <00:43:28.510>you <00:43:28.666>don't <00:43:28.821>belong, <00:43:28.977>which <00:43:29.132>is <00:43:29.288>exactly <00:43:29.443>how <00:43:29.599>I <00:43:29.755>felt,

1063
00:43:30.755 --> 00:43:32.285
<00:43:30.755>like <00:43:31.030>you <00:43:31.305>remind <00:43:31.581>me <00:43:31.856>of <00:43:32.132>me.

1064
00:43:32.345 --> 00:43:33.685
<00:43:32.345>And <00:43:32.517>I <00:43:32.689>think <00:43:32.861>one <00:43:33.034>of <00:43:33.206>the <00:43:33.378>things <00:43:33.551>that's

1065
00:43:33.685 --> 00:43:35.605
<00:43:33.685>so <00:43:33.965>great <00:43:34.245>about <00:43:34.525>the <00:43:34.805>tech <00:43:35.085>space

1066
00:43:35.705 --> 00:43:37.725
<00:43:35.705>and <00:43:35.938>games <00:43:36.171>is <00:43:36.404>it's <00:43:36.638>full <00:43:36.871>of <00:43:37.105>creative,

1067
00:43:37.725 --> 00:43:39.245
<00:43:37.725>different <00:43:38.181>people <00:43:38.636>like <00:43:39.093>us,

1068
00:43:39.425 --> 00:43:42.685
<00:43:39.425>and <00:43:39.580>I <00:43:39.736>believe <00:43:39.891>strongly <00:43:40.047>that <00:43:40.202>our <00:43:40.358>difference <00:43:40.513>is <00:43:40.669>our <00:43:40.825>strength,

1069
00:43:42.705 --> 00:43:44.325
<00:43:42.705>and <00:43:42.904>it <00:43:43.105>will <00:43:43.305>allow <00:43:43.505>us <00:43:43.705>to <00:43:43.904>tell <00:43:44.105>stories

1070
00:43:44.325 --> 00:43:46.365
<00:43:44.325>that <00:43:44.605>other <00:43:44.884>people <00:43:45.165>simply <00:43:45.444>cannot <00:43:45.725>tell.

1071
00:43:46.905 --> 00:43:49.885
<00:43:46.905>Um, <00:43:47.032>and <00:43:47.159>if <00:43:47.286>your <00:43:47.414>story <00:43:47.541>is <00:43:47.668>a <00:43:47.795>challenging <00:43:47.923>story, <00:43:48.050>if <00:43:48.177>you've <00:43:48.305>had

1072
00:43:49.885 --> 00:43:51.645
<00:43:49.885>to <00:43:50.165>go <00:43:50.445>through <00:43:50.725>tough <00:43:51.005>times, <00:43:51.285>um,

1073
00:43:52.785 --> 00:43:55.805
<00:43:52.785>the <00:43:52.912>most <00:43:53.039>successful <00:43:53.166>people <00:43:53.294>I <00:43:53.421>know <00:43:53.548>in <00:43:53.675>the <00:43:53.803>tech <00:43:53.930>space <00:43:54.057>all <00:43:54.185>went

1074
00:43:55.805 --> 00:43:57.605
<00:43:55.805>through <00:43:56.038>tough <00:43:56.271>times <00:43:56.504>and <00:43:56.738>had <00:43:56.971>similar <00:43:57.205>backgrounds.

1075
00:43:57.785 --> 00:44:01.405
<00:43:57.785>Um, <00:43:57.912>and <00:43:58.039>I <00:43:58.166>think <00:43:58.294>that <00:43:58.421>people <00:43:58.548>who <00:43:58.675>have <00:43:58.803>have <00:43:58.930>that <00:43:59.057>broad <00:43:59.185>breadth

1076
00:44:01.505 --> 00:44:04.925
<00:44:01.505>of <00:44:01.645>experience <00:44:01.785>can <00:44:01.925>also <00:44:02.065>come <00:44:02.205>up <00:44:02.345>with <00:44:02.485>this, <00:44:02.625>the <00:44:02.765>coolest <00:44:02.905>ideas

1077
00:44:04.995 --> 00:44:08.325
<00:44:04.995>that <00:44:05.150>exist, <00:44:05.306>and <00:44:05.461>people <00:44:05.617>who <00:44:05.772>know <00:44:05.928>difficulty <00:44:06.083>also <00:44:06.239>know <00:44:06.395>joy.

1078
00:44:08.665 --> 00:44:11.325
<00:44:08.665>And, <00:44:08.820>um, <00:44:08.976>so <00:44:09.131>thank <00:44:09.287>you <00:44:09.442>for <00:44:09.598>giving <00:44:09.753>me <00:44:09.909>this <00:44:10.065>opportunity

1079
00:44:11.345 --> 00:44:13.925
<00:44:11.345>to <00:44:11.520>tell <00:44:11.694>you <00:44:11.870>about <00:44:12.044>games, <00:44:12.220>their <00:44:12.395>stories, <00:44:12.569>my <00:44:12.745>stories,

1080
00:44:13.995 --> 00:44:15.405
<00:44:13.995>your <00:44:14.206>stories, <00:44:14.418>and <00:44:14.629>all <00:44:14.841>the <00:44:15.052>different <00:44:15.264>things

1081
00:44:15.405 --> 00:44:16.485
<00:44:15.405>that <00:44:15.599>are <00:44:15.793>happening <00:44:15.988>in <00:44:16.182>our <00:44:16.377>space.

1082
00:44:16.825 --> 00:44:19.805
<00:44:16.825>And <00:44:17.024>I'm <00:44:17.225>happy <00:44:17.424>to <00:44:17.625>take <00:44:17.825>any <00:44:18.024>questions <00:44:18.225>now.

1083
00:44:23.965 --> 00:44:25.705
<00:44:23.965>Now, <00:44:24.245>Brenda, <00:44:24.525>thank <00:44:24.805>you <00:44:25.085>so <00:44:25.365>much.

1084
00:44:25.855 --> 00:44:28.985
<00:44:25.855>That <00:44:26.135>was <00:44:26.415>an <00:44:26.695>amazing <00:44:26.975>presentation, <00:44:27.255>really,

1085
00:44:29.525 --> 00:44:32.285
<00:44:29.525>and <00:44:29.725>the <00:44:29.925>audience <00:44:30.125>enjoyed <00:44:30.325>it <00:44:30.525>also <00:44:30.725>very <00:44:30.925>much.

1086
00:44:32.465 --> 00:44:35.165
<00:44:32.465>And, <00:44:32.605>uh, <00:44:32.745>before <00:44:32.885>we <00:44:33.025>start <00:44:33.165>with <00:44:33.305>the <00:44:33.445>questions, <00:44:33.585>I <00:44:33.725>want <00:44:33.865>actually

1087
00:44:35.185 --> 00:44:39.045
<00:44:35.185>to <00:44:35.312>say <00:44:35.439>already <00:44:35.566>I <00:44:35.694>said <00:44:35.821>it <00:44:35.948>in <00:44:36.075>the <00:44:36.203>first, <00:44:36.330>um, <00:44:36.457>uh, <00:44:36.585>session

1088
00:44:39.075 --> 00:44:40.325
<00:44:39.075>with <00:44:39.637>John, <00:44:40.200>uh,

1089
00:44:40.325 --> 00:44:42.805
<00:44:40.325>because <00:44:40.480>you <00:44:40.636>have <00:44:40.791>been <00:44:40.947>so <00:44:41.102>many <00:44:41.258>times <00:44:41.413>already <00:44:41.569>at <00:44:41.725>our

1090
00:44:42.805 --> 00:44:46.485
<00:44:42.805>conference, <00:44:42.960>if <00:44:43.116>you <00:44:43.271>have <00:44:43.427>prepared <00:44:43.582>a <00:44:43.738>small <00:44:43.893>surprise <00:44:44.049>for <00:44:44.205>you,

1091
00:44:46.825 --> 00:44:49.485
<00:44:46.825>you <00:44:47.174>have, <00:44:47.524>yeah. <00:44:47.875>So, <00:44:48.225>uh,

1092
00:44:49.725 --> 00:44:51.685
<00:44:49.725>Should <00:44:49.958>I <00:44:50.191>shop, <00:44:50.424>stop <00:44:50.658>sharing <00:44:50.891>my <00:44:51.125>screen.

1093
00:44:53.745 --> 00:44:55.565
<00:44:53.745>Uh, <00:44:53.978>I <00:44:54.211>think <00:44:54.444>it's <00:44:54.678>fine. <00:44:54.911>No, <00:44:55.145>it's

1094
00:44:55.595 --> 00:44:56.595
<00:44:55.595>Okay. <00:44:55.774>Okay. <00:44:55.955>I'll <00:44:56.134>leave <00:44:56.314>it <00:44:56.495>there.

1095
00:44:56.595 --> 00:44:57.085
Okay.

1096
00:44:57.515 --> 00:45:01.525
<00:44:57.515>It's <00:44:57.654>perfect. <00:44:57.795>Um, <00:44:57.935>yeah, <00:44:58.075>so <00:44:58.214>the <00:44:58.355>surprise <00:44:58.495>is <00:44:58.634>for <00:44:58.775>the <00:44:58.915>two

1097
00:45:01.525 --> 00:45:03.725
<00:45:01.525>of <00:45:01.680>you, <00:45:01.836>so <00:45:01.991>make <00:45:02.147>sure <00:45:02.302>that <00:45:02.458>John <00:45:02.613>doesn't, <00:45:02.769>you <00:45:02.925>know,

1098
00:45:03.725 --> 00:45:06.245
<00:45:03.725>that <00:45:03.900>he <00:45:04.075>doesn't, <00:45:04.250>uh, <00:45:04.424>take <00:45:04.600>it <00:45:04.775>just <00:45:04.950>for <00:45:05.125>himself.

1099
00:45:09.505 --> 00:45:11.405
<00:45:09.505>So, <00:45:09.738>and <00:45:09.971>then <00:45:10.205>let's <00:45:10.438>go <00:45:10.671>into <00:45:10.905>questions.

1100
00:45:11.405 --> 00:45:15.845
<00:45:11.405>There <00:45:11.521>are <00:45:11.638>so <00:45:11.755>many <00:45:11.871>of <00:45:11.988>them. <00:45:12.105>Um, <00:45:12.221>let <00:45:12.338>me <00:45:12.455>choose <00:45:12.571>the <00:45:12.688>first <00:45:12.805>one.

1101
00:45:16.385 --> 00:45:21.005
<00:45:16.385>Um, <00:45:17.085>yeah, <00:45:17.785>there,

1102
00:45:21.005 --> 00:45:23.485
<00:45:21.005>there <00:45:21.145>is <00:45:21.285>actually <00:45:21.425>a <00:45:21.565>lot <00:45:21.705>of <00:45:21.845>questions <00:45:21.985>about, <00:45:22.125>uh, <00:45:22.265>you <00:45:22.405>know,

1103
00:45:23.705 --> 00:45:26.805
<00:45:23.705>how <00:45:23.880>can, <00:45:24.055>what's <00:45:24.230>the <00:45:24.404>best <00:45:24.580>way <00:45:24.755>to <00:45:24.930>join <00:45:25.105>the,

1104
00:45:27.025 --> 00:45:29.085
<00:45:27.025>the <00:45:27.305>gaming <00:45:27.585>industry <00:45:27.865>as <00:45:28.145>a <00:45:28.425>developer,

1105
00:45:29.085 --> 00:45:31.725
<00:45:29.085>especially <00:45:29.285>if <00:45:29.485>you <00:45:29.685>are <00:45:29.885>already <00:45:30.085>an <00:45:30.285>experienced <00:45:30.485>developer,

1106
00:45:31.745 --> 00:45:33.845
<00:45:31.745>but <00:45:31.978>not <00:45:32.211>coming <00:45:32.444>from <00:45:32.678>the <00:45:32.911>gaming <00:45:33.145>industry.

1107
00:45:34.065 --> 00:45:36.245
<00:45:34.065>What's, <00:45:34.220>what's <00:45:34.376>the <00:45:34.531>best <00:45:34.687>way <00:45:34.842>to <00:45:34.998>kind <00:45:35.153>of, <00:45:35.309>you <00:45:35.465>know,

1108
00:45:36.245 --> 00:45:37.365
<00:45:36.245>make <00:45:36.580>some <00:45:36.917>first <00:45:37.252>steps?

1109
00:45:38.215 --> 00:45:39.215
<00:45:38.215>Where <00:45:38.665>to <00:45:39.115>start?

1110
00:45:41.385 --> 00:45:43.925
<00:45:41.385>Uh, <00:45:41.540>so <00:45:41.696>I, <00:45:41.851>you <00:45:42.007>know, <00:45:42.162>first <00:45:42.318>of <00:45:42.473>all, <00:45:42.629>you <00:45:42.785>know,

1111
00:45:43.925 --> 00:45:46.565
<00:45:43.925>especially <00:45:44.125>if <00:45:44.325>you <00:45:44.525>are <00:45:44.725>a <00:45:44.925>developer, <00:45:45.125>there <00:45:45.325>are,

1112
00:45:46.705 --> 00:45:50.125
<00:45:46.705>I'm <00:45:46.860>sure <00:45:47.016>you <00:45:47.171>well <00:45:47.327>know, <00:45:47.482>um, <00:45:47.638>that <00:45:47.793>there's <00:45:47.949>a <00:45:48.105>shortage

1113
00:45:50.185 --> 00:45:51.365
<00:45:50.185>of <00:45:50.716>programmers <00:45:51.247>everywhere,

1114
00:45:51.385 --> 00:45:53.445
<00:45:51.385>and <00:45:51.540>in <00:45:51.696>the <00:45:51.851>game <00:45:52.007>industry, <00:45:52.162>it's <00:45:52.318>no <00:45:52.473>different <00:45:52.629>to <00:45:52.785>that.

1115
00:45:53.995 --> 00:45:56.365
<00:45:53.995>What <00:45:54.111>I <00:45:54.228>would <00:45:54.345>say, <00:45:54.461>the <00:45:54.578>thing <00:45:54.694>that <00:45:54.811>you <00:45:54.928>could <00:45:55.045>do, <00:45:55.161>we <00:45:55.278>do <00:45:55.395>get,

1116
00:45:56.585 --> 00:45:58.925
<00:45:56.585>you <00:45:56.740>know, <00:45:56.896>I <00:45:57.051>do <00:45:57.207>see, <00:45:57.362>and <00:45:57.518>I'm <00:45:57.673>only <00:45:57.829>speaking <00:45:57.985>of,

1117
00:45:58.945 --> 00:45:59.965
<00:45:58.945>of <00:45:59.251>our <00:45:59.557>company <00:45:59.863>now,

1118
00:45:59.985 --> 00:46:02.605
<00:45:59.985>but <00:46:00.140>there <00:46:00.296>are <00:46:00.451>lots <00:46:00.607>of <00:46:00.762>different <00:46:00.918>resumes <00:46:01.073>that <00:46:01.229>come <00:46:01.385>in,

1119
00:46:02.625 --> 00:46:05.405
<00:46:02.625>and <00:46:02.825>especially <00:46:03.025>resumes <00:46:03.225>from, <00:46:03.425>you <00:46:03.625>know, <00:46:03.825>people <00:46:04.025>who,

1120
00:46:05.585 --> 00:46:07.405
<00:46:05.585>who <00:46:05.818>are <00:46:06.051>working <00:46:06.285>outside <00:46:06.518>the <00:46:06.751>game <00:46:06.985>industry

1121
00:46:08.495 --> 00:46:10.325
<00:46:08.495>where <00:46:08.694>you <00:46:08.895>can <00:46:09.095>make <00:46:09.295>a <00:46:09.495>difference <00:46:09.694>is <00:46:09.895>know

1122
00:46:10.325 --> 00:46:11.525
<00:46:10.325>the <00:46:10.595>tools <00:46:10.865>that <00:46:11.135>we <00:46:11.405>use.

1123
00:46:11.905 --> 00:46:14.925
<00:46:11.905>So, <00:46:12.045>you <00:46:12.185>know, <00:46:12.325>if <00:46:12.465>you're, <00:46:12.605>if <00:46:12.745>you're <00:46:12.885>applying <00:46:13.025>to <00:46:13.165>a <00:46:13.305>studio

1124
00:46:15.035 --> 00:46:17.845
<00:46:15.035>that <00:46:15.210>uses <00:46:15.384>Unreal, <00:46:15.560>no <00:46:15.734>unreal, <00:46:15.910>take <00:46:16.085>some <00:46:16.259>time <00:46:16.435>to,

1125
00:46:17.865 --> 00:46:20.725
<00:46:17.865>to <00:46:18.004>make <00:46:18.145>some <00:46:18.285>stuff <00:46:18.424>in <00:46:18.564>it, <00:46:18.705>get <00:46:18.845>familiar <00:46:18.984>with <00:46:19.125>that <00:46:19.265>engine.

1126
00:46:20.965 --> 00:46:23.805
<00:46:20.965>I, <00:46:21.081>I <00:46:21.198>think, <00:46:21.315>you <00:46:21.431>know, <00:46:21.548>when <00:46:21.665>I <00:46:21.781>see <00:46:21.898>like, <00:46:22.015>like, <00:46:22.131>let's <00:46:22.248>just <00:46:22.365>take

1127
00:46:23.825 --> 00:46:24.845
<00:46:23.825>for <00:46:24.131>example, <00:46:24.437>there's <00:46:24.743>somebody

1128
00:46:24.845 --> 00:46:27.205
<00:46:24.845>who <00:46:25.000>on <00:46:25.156>their <00:46:25.311>day <00:46:25.467>job <00:46:25.622>is <00:46:25.778>working <00:46:25.933>in <00:46:26.089>bank <00:46:26.245>software,

1129
00:46:27.945 --> 00:46:30.565
<00:46:27.945>but <00:46:28.120>at <00:46:28.295>night <00:46:28.470>they <00:46:28.645>are <00:46:28.820>working, <00:46:28.995>say <00:46:29.170>in <00:46:29.345>Unity,

1130
00:46:30.705 --> 00:46:32.525
<00:46:30.705>and <00:46:30.938>they <00:46:31.171>create <00:46:31.404>their <00:46:31.638>own <00:46:31.871>small <00:46:32.105>game.

1131
00:46:32.585 --> 00:46:35.205
<00:46:32.585>So <00:46:32.760>they're <00:46:32.935>trying <00:46:33.110>to, <00:46:33.285>they're <00:46:33.460>trying <00:46:33.635>to <00:46:33.810>get <00:46:33.985>themselves

1132
00:46:35.765 --> 00:46:39.725
<00:46:35.765>familiar <00:46:35.920>with <00:46:36.076>the, <00:46:36.231>the <00:46:36.387>tools <00:46:36.542>of <00:46:36.698>our <00:46:36.853>trade <00:46:37.009>specifically, <00:46:37.165>um,

1133
00:46:39.955 --> 00:46:44.405
<00:46:39.955>that <00:46:40.062>I, <00:46:40.170>I <00:46:40.278>would <00:46:40.385>say <00:46:40.493>you <00:46:40.601>would <00:46:40.708>give <00:46:40.816>yourself <00:46:40.924>a <00:46:41.031>huge <00:46:41.139>leg <00:46:41.247>up <00:46:41.355>if

1134
00:46:44.405 --> 00:46:46.525
<00:46:44.405>you <00:46:44.580>said, <00:46:44.755>yeah, <00:46:44.930>by <00:46:45.105>day <00:46:45.280>I <00:46:45.455>make <00:46:45.630>bank <00:46:45.805>software,

1135
00:46:46.665 --> 00:46:48.085
<00:46:46.665>but <00:46:46.878>I've <00:46:47.091>made <00:46:47.304>these, <00:46:47.517>uh, <00:46:47.730>you <00:46:47.943>know,

1136
00:46:48.085 --> 00:46:50.045
<00:46:48.085>a <00:46:48.260>couple <00:46:48.435>small <00:46:48.610>indie <00:46:48.785>games <00:46:48.960>in <00:46:49.135>my <00:46:49.310>spare <00:46:49.485>time.

1137
00:46:50.665 --> 00:46:53.405
<00:46:50.665>One <00:46:50.805>of <00:46:50.945>the <00:46:51.085>easiest <00:46:51.225>and <00:46:51.365>best <00:46:51.505>ways <00:46:51.645>to <00:46:51.785>do <00:46:51.925>this, <00:46:52.065>and,

1138
00:46:53.425 --> 00:46:55.085
<00:46:53.425>and <00:46:53.600>these <00:46:53.775>are, <00:46:53.950>these <00:46:54.125>happen <00:46:54.300>all <00:46:54.475>over <00:46:54.650>the <00:46:54.825>place

1139
00:46:55.085 --> 00:46:57.925
<00:46:55.085>and <00:46:55.212>now <00:46:55.339>they <00:46:55.466>happen <00:46:55.594>online, <00:46:55.721>um, <00:46:55.848>is <00:46:55.975>go <00:46:56.103>to <00:46:56.230>a <00:46:56.357>Game <00:46:56.485>Jam

1140
00:46:58.195 --> 00:46:59.645
<00:46:58.195>that <00:46:58.630>is <00:46:59.065>one <00:46:59.500>weekend.

1141
00:46:59.865 --> 00:47:02.685
<00:46:59.865>Uh, <00:46:59.992>in, <00:47:00.119>in <00:47:00.246>the <00:47:00.374>course <00:47:00.501>of <00:47:00.628>that <00:47:00.755>weekend, <00:47:00.883>you'll <00:47:01.010>create <00:47:01.137>a <00:47:01.265>game.

1142
00:47:02.815 --> 00:47:03.885
<00:47:02.815>Might <00:47:03.007>not <00:47:03.200>be <00:47:03.392>a <00:47:03.585>great <00:47:03.778>game,

1143
00:47:04.265 --> 00:47:07.445
<00:47:04.265>but <00:47:04.392>you <00:47:04.519>will <00:47:04.646>get <00:47:04.774>something <00:47:04.901>created, <00:47:05.028>um, <00:47:05.155>with <00:47:05.283>a <00:47:05.410>team <00:47:05.537>of <00:47:05.665>folks

1144
00:47:07.445 --> 00:47:09.205
<00:47:07.445>that <00:47:07.645>you <00:47:07.845>may <00:47:08.045>never <00:47:08.245>have <00:47:08.445>even <00:47:08.645>met <00:47:08.845>before.

1145
00:47:09.435 --> 00:47:12.365
<00:47:09.435>John, <00:47:09.575>um, <00:47:09.715>and <00:47:09.855>two <00:47:09.995>other <00:47:10.134>people <00:47:10.275>did <00:47:10.415>a <00:47:10.555>Game <00:47:10.695>Jam, <00:47:10.835>uh,

1146
00:47:13.145 --> 00:47:15.125
<00:47:13.145>two <00:47:13.378>weekends <00:47:13.611>ago, <00:47:13.845>had <00:47:14.078>a <00:47:14.311>fantastic <00:47:14.545>time,

1147
00:47:15.125 --> 00:47:17.525
<00:47:15.125>and <00:47:15.252>they <00:47:15.379>came <00:47:15.506>up <00:47:15.634>with <00:47:15.761>a <00:47:15.888>small <00:47:16.015>proof <00:47:16.143>of <00:47:16.270>concept <00:47:16.397>for <00:47:16.525>something

1148
00:47:17.525 --> 00:47:18.845
<00:47:17.525>that <00:47:17.822>was <00:47:18.119>actually <00:47:18.415>really <00:47:18.712>fun.

1149
00:47:19.345 --> 00:47:21.925
<00:47:19.345>Um, <00:47:19.472>but <00:47:19.599>that's <00:47:19.726>what <00:47:19.854>I <00:47:19.981>would <00:47:20.108>recommend <00:47:20.235>doing <00:47:20.363>a <00:47:20.490>Game <00:47:20.617>Jam <00:47:20.745>is

1150
00:47:22.165 --> 00:47:24.525
<00:47:22.165>probably, <00:47:22.320>you <00:47:22.476>know, <00:47:22.631>that's, <00:47:22.787>that's <00:47:22.942>sort <00:47:23.098>of, <00:47:23.253>um, <00:47:23.409>you <00:47:23.565>know,

1151
00:47:24.525 --> 00:47:26.085
<00:47:24.525>just <00:47:24.758>diving <00:47:24.991>straight <00:47:25.225>into <00:47:25.458>the <00:47:25.691>deep <00:47:25.925>end

1152
00:47:26.305 --> 00:47:28.605
<00:47:26.305>and <00:47:26.460>you <00:47:26.616>will, <00:47:26.771>if <00:47:26.927>you, <00:47:27.082>you'll <00:47:27.238>have <00:47:27.393>a <00:47:27.549>great <00:47:27.705>time.

1153
00:47:29.875 --> 00:47:33.205
<00:47:29.875>Okay. <00:47:30.015>Then <00:47:30.155>maybe <00:47:30.295>a <00:47:30.435>bit <00:47:30.575>related <00:47:30.715>to <00:47:30.855>that <00:47:30.995>question, <00:47:31.135>um, <00:47:31.275>uh,

1154
00:47:33.355 --> 00:47:35.765
<00:47:33.355>like, <00:47:33.635>you <00:47:33.915>know, <00:47:34.195>there's <00:47:34.475>Unity, <00:47:34.755>unreal.

1155
00:47:36.075 --> 00:47:37.605
<00:47:36.075>Will <00:47:36.304>you <00:47:36.533>say <00:47:36.763>there <00:47:36.993>is <00:47:37.222>any <00:47:37.452>difference?

1156
00:47:37.675 --> 00:47:40.565
<00:47:37.675>Like, <00:47:37.815>like, <00:47:37.955>uh, <00:47:38.095>is <00:47:38.235>it <00:47:38.375>better <00:47:38.515>to <00:47:38.655>start <00:47:38.795>with, <00:47:38.935>uh, <00:47:39.075>unity

1157
00:47:40.745 --> 00:47:41.965
<00:47:40.745>or <00:47:41.111>with <00:47:41.477>Unreal, <00:47:41.843>or,

1158
00:47:42.465 --> 00:47:45.205
<00:47:42.465>or <00:47:42.745>doesn't, <00:47:43.025>doesn't, <00:47:43.305>doesn't <00:47:43.585>matter. <00:47:43.865>Um,

1159
00:47:45.585 --> 00:47:48.565
<00:47:45.585>It <00:47:45.725>doesn't <00:47:45.865>really <00:47:46.005>matter, <00:47:46.145>you <00:47:46.285>know, <00:47:46.425>I <00:47:46.565>would <00:47:46.705>say, <00:47:46.845>you <00:47:46.985>know,

1160
00:47:48.565 --> 00:47:51.005
<00:47:48.565>so <00:47:48.798>unreal <00:47:49.031>is, <00:47:49.265>is <00:47:49.498>C <00:47:49.731>plus <00:47:49.965>plus

1161
00:47:51.265 --> 00:47:56.125
<00:47:51.265>and <00:47:51.440>Unity <00:47:51.615>is <00:47:51.790>C, <00:47:51.964>um, <00:47:52.140>unity <00:47:52.315>is, <00:47:52.490>uh, <00:47:52.665>it,

1162
00:47:56.125 --> 00:47:58.525
<00:47:56.125>it <00:47:56.265>depends <00:47:56.405>on <00:47:56.545>the <00:47:56.685>type <00:47:56.825>of <00:47:56.965>game <00:47:57.105>you're <00:47:57.245>making <00:47:57.385>as <00:47:57.525>well.

1163
00:47:58.705 --> 00:48:00.405
<00:47:58.705>So <00:47:58.985>if <00:47:59.265>you're <00:47:59.545>interested <00:47:59.825>in, <00:48:00.105>say,

1164
00:48:00.405 --> 00:48:03.165
<00:48:00.405>making <00:48:00.580>a <00:48:00.755>a <00:48:00.930>first <00:48:01.105>person <00:48:01.280>shooter, <00:48:01.455>uh, <00:48:01.630>I <00:48:01.805>would,

1165
00:48:03.325 --> 00:48:04.645
<00:48:03.325>I <00:48:03.522>would <00:48:03.721>say <00:48:03.919>go <00:48:04.116>the <00:48:04.315>unreal <00:48:04.513>route

1166
00:48:04.645 --> 00:48:07.445
<00:48:04.645>because <00:48:04.800>it's <00:48:04.956>shipped <00:48:05.111>a <00:48:05.267>lot <00:48:05.422>of <00:48:05.578>first <00:48:05.733>person <00:48:05.889>shooters, <00:48:06.045>um,

1167
00:48:07.445 --> 00:48:09.085
<00:48:07.445>you <00:48:07.645>know, <00:48:07.845>like <00:48:08.045>Gears <00:48:08.245>of <00:48:08.445>war <00:48:08.645>for <00:48:08.845>instance.

1168
00:48:09.465 --> 00:48:13.445
<00:48:09.465>Um, <00:48:09.592>but <00:48:09.719>if <00:48:09.846>you <00:48:09.974>are <00:48:10.101>interested <00:48:10.228>in <00:48:10.355>creating, <00:48:10.483>um, <00:48:10.610>I <00:48:10.737>don't <00:48:10.865>know,

1169
00:48:13.445 --> 00:48:16.685
<00:48:13.445>like <00:48:13.585>it <00:48:13.725>any, <00:48:13.865>pretty <00:48:14.005>much <00:48:14.145>any <00:48:14.285>other <00:48:14.425>type <00:48:14.565>of <00:48:14.705>game, <00:48:14.845>um,

1170
00:48:17.205 --> 00:48:20.085
<00:48:17.205>unity <00:48:17.345>is <00:48:17.485>also <00:48:17.625>a, <00:48:17.765>a, <00:48:17.904>a <00:48:18.045>great, <00:48:18.185>um, <00:48:18.325>a <00:48:18.465>great <00:48:18.605>experience.

1171
00:48:20.085 --> 00:48:23.085
<00:48:20.085>So <00:48:20.212>you <00:48:20.339>could <00:48:20.466>even <00:48:20.594>use <00:48:20.721>something <00:48:20.848>like <00:48:20.975>Solar <00:48:21.103>2D <00:48:21.230>if <00:48:21.357>you <00:48:21.485>just

1172
00:48:23.085 --> 00:48:26.445
<00:48:23.085>wanted <00:48:23.225>to <00:48:23.365>create, <00:48:23.505>uh, <00:48:23.645>say <00:48:23.785>a <00:48:23.925>a <00:48:24.065>2D <00:48:24.205>game, <00:48:24.345>you <00:48:24.485>know,

1173
00:48:26.445 --> 00:48:28.165
<00:48:26.445>that <00:48:26.725>would <00:48:27.005>be, <00:48:27.285>um, <00:48:27.565>you <00:48:27.845>know,

1174
00:48:28.165 --> 00:48:29.845
<00:48:28.165>for <00:48:28.398>mobile <00:48:28.631>phones <00:48:28.865>or <00:48:29.098>something <00:48:29.331>like <00:48:29.565>that.

1175
00:48:30.105 --> 00:48:32.845
<00:48:30.105>Um, <00:48:30.338>it <00:48:30.571>really <00:48:30.805>depends <00:48:31.038>on <00:48:31.271>the <00:48:31.505>application.

1176
00:48:32.845 --> 00:48:37.485
<00:48:32.845>Like <00:48:32.961>if <00:48:33.078>there's <00:48:33.194>a <00:48:33.311>game <00:48:33.428>that <00:48:33.544>you <00:48:33.661>like, <00:48:33.778>it's <00:48:33.895>easy <00:48:34.011>to <00:48:34.128>find <00:48:34.245>out,

1177
00:48:37.705 --> 00:48:39.445
<00:48:37.705>um, <00:48:37.985>how <00:48:38.265>that <00:48:38.545>game <00:48:38.825>was <00:48:39.105>created.

1178
00:48:40.145 --> 00:48:42.965
<00:48:40.145>And <00:48:40.285>this <00:48:40.425>is <00:48:40.565>true <00:48:40.705>of <00:48:40.845>everything. <00:48:40.985>I <00:48:41.125>would <00:48:41.265>just <00:48:41.405>start <00:48:41.545>small.

1179
00:48:42.965 --> 00:48:46.645
<00:48:42.965>I <00:48:43.092>wouldn't <00:48:43.219>say <00:48:43.346>like, <00:48:43.474>okay, <00:48:43.601>I <00:48:43.728>am <00:48:43.855>gonna <00:48:43.983>make <00:48:44.110>my <00:48:44.237>own <00:48:44.365>Ocarina

1180
00:48:46.645 --> 00:48:48.205
<00:48:46.645>of <00:48:46.878>time, <00:48:47.111>finally <00:48:47.345>my <00:48:47.578>time <00:48:47.811>is <00:48:48.045>here.

1181
00:48:48.405 --> 00:48:49.645
<00:48:48.405>'cause <00:48:48.628>that's <00:48:48.851>an <00:48:49.074>awful <00:48:49.297>big <00:48:49.521>project,

1182
00:48:50.385 --> 00:48:53.325
<00:48:50.385>but, <00:48:50.525>you <00:48:50.665>know, <00:48:50.805>remake <00:48:50.945>a <00:48:51.085>classic <00:48:51.225>arcade <00:48:51.365>game, <00:48:51.505>you <00:48:51.645>know <00:48:51.785>that,

1183
00:48:53.475 --> 00:48:57.605
<00:48:53.475>that <00:48:53.602>is, <00:48:53.729>um, <00:48:53.856>I <00:48:53.984>often, <00:48:54.111>I <00:48:54.238>often <00:48:54.365>find <00:48:54.493>that <00:48:54.620>those <00:48:54.747>are, <00:48:54.875>um,

1184
00:48:58.105 --> 00:49:00.285
<00:48:58.105>you <00:48:58.245>know, <00:48:58.385>that's <00:48:58.525>a <00:48:58.665>really <00:48:58.805>good, <00:48:58.945>a <00:48:59.085>good <00:48:59.225>way <00:48:59.365>to <00:48:59.505>start.

1185
00:49:01.635 --> 00:49:05.245
<00:49:01.635>Okay, <00:49:01.775>thank <00:49:01.915>you. <00:49:02.055>Then <00:49:02.195>we <00:49:02.335>have <00:49:02.475>a <00:49:02.615>musician <00:49:02.755>with <00:49:02.895>a <00:49:03.035>question.

1186
00:49:05.585 --> 00:49:09.845
<00:49:05.585>Gregor <00:49:05.725>is <00:49:05.865>asking, <00:49:06.005>um, <00:49:06.145>could <00:49:06.285>you <00:49:06.425>give <00:49:06.565>an <00:49:06.705>advice <00:49:06.845>how <00:49:06.985>to,

1187
00:49:09.845 --> 00:49:11.205
<00:49:09.845>throughout <00:49:11.069>storytelling,

1188
00:49:11.425 --> 00:49:15.445
<00:49:11.425>we <00:49:11.600>could <00:49:11.775>implement <00:49:11.950>more <00:49:12.125>diverse <00:49:12.300>sound <00:49:12.475>banks <00:49:12.650>from <00:49:12.825>independent

1189
00:49:15.725 --> 00:49:18.365
<00:49:15.725>musicians <00:49:15.958>to <00:49:16.191>get <00:49:16.424>them <00:49:16.658>back <00:49:16.891>into <00:49:17.125>earnings.

1190
00:49:18.865 --> 00:49:20.885
<00:49:18.865>The <00:49:19.098>gaming <00:49:19.331>market <00:49:19.564>could <00:49:19.798>be <00:49:20.031>a <00:49:20.265>solution.

1191
00:49:21.305 --> 00:49:23.925
<00:49:21.305>Do <00:49:21.444>we <00:49:21.585>need <00:49:21.725>a <00:49:21.865>new <00:49:22.004>platform <00:49:22.145>which <00:49:22.285>is <00:49:22.424>not <00:49:22.565>under <00:49:22.705>control

1192
00:49:23.925 --> 00:49:25.445
<00:49:23.925>of <00:49:24.381>Universal <00:49:24.837>Warner <00:49:25.293>Brothers?

1193
00:49:25.445 --> 00:49:26.765
<00:49:25.445>And <00:49:25.643>so <00:49:25.841>on <00:49:26.039>and <00:49:26.237>so <00:49:26.435>on. <00:49:26.633>Mm-hmm.

1194
00:49:26.865 --> 00:49:30.005
<00:49:26.865>Um, <00:49:27.004>where <00:49:27.145>do <00:49:27.285>you <00:49:27.424>get <00:49:27.564>your <00:49:27.705>sounds <00:49:27.845>from <00:49:27.984>for <00:49:28.125>your <00:49:28.265>games?

1195
00:49:30.905 --> 00:49:34.285
<00:49:30.905>So, <00:49:31.105>interestingly <00:49:31.305>enough, <00:49:31.505>uh, <00:49:31.705>there <00:49:31.905>are <00:49:32.105>a <00:49:32.305>load

1196
00:49:34.345 --> 00:49:36.565
<00:49:34.345>of <00:49:34.694>professional <00:49:35.044>musicians <00:49:35.395>who <00:49:35.745>obviously

1197
00:49:36.565 --> 00:49:38.805
<00:49:36.565>because <00:49:36.798>of <00:49:37.031>the <00:49:37.265>pandemic <00:49:37.498>are <00:49:37.731>not <00:49:37.965>touring.

1198
00:49:38.945 --> 00:49:42.805
<00:49:38.945>Um, <00:49:39.120>one <00:49:39.295>of <00:49:39.470>those <00:49:39.645>professional <00:49:39.820>musicians <00:49:39.995>is <00:49:40.170>Dan <00:49:40.345>Kar.

1199
00:49:43.185 --> 00:49:45.525
<00:49:43.185>And <00:49:43.384>Dan <00:49:43.585>normally <00:49:43.785>is <00:49:43.985>touring <00:49:44.185>with <00:49:44.384>Sean <00:49:44.585>Paul.

1200
00:49:45.785 --> 00:49:47.165
<00:49:45.785>Um, <00:49:46.095>he's <00:49:46.406>a <00:49:46.716>piano <00:49:47.027>player

1201
00:49:47.225 --> 00:49:49.925
<00:49:47.225>and <00:49:47.352>he <00:49:47.479>composed <00:49:47.606>a <00:49:47.734>lot <00:49:47.861>of <00:49:47.988>the <00:49:48.115>music <00:49:48.243>in <00:49:48.370>Empire <00:49:48.497>of <00:49:48.625>Sin.

1202
00:49:50.505 --> 00:49:53.165
<00:49:50.505>So, <00:49:50.645>um, <00:49:50.785>you <00:49:50.925>know, <00:49:51.065>I <00:49:51.205>think <00:49:51.345>it's, <00:49:51.485>you <00:49:51.625>know, <00:49:51.765>for <00:49:51.905>the,

1203
00:49:53.165 --> 00:49:55.325
<00:49:53.165>for <00:49:53.365>the <00:49:53.565>musicians <00:49:53.765>who <00:49:53.965>are, <00:49:54.165>who <00:49:54.365>are <00:49:54.565>trying

1204
00:49:55.325 --> 00:49:58.165
<00:49:55.325>to <00:49:55.480>get <00:49:55.636>into <00:49:55.791>the <00:49:55.947>game <00:49:56.102>space, <00:49:56.258>it's <00:49:56.413>a <00:49:56.569>question, <00:49:56.725>uh,

1205
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<00:49:58.275>it's <00:49:58.565>a <00:49:58.855>question <00:49:59.145>of <00:49:59.436>networking.

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<00:49:59.585>And <00:49:59.712>I <00:49:59.839>will <00:49:59.966>say, <00:50:00.094>I <00:50:00.221>do <00:50:00.348>think <00:50:00.475>if <00:50:00.603>you <00:50:00.730>are <00:50:00.857>a <00:50:00.985>professional

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<00:50:02.325>musician, <00:50:02.500>um, <00:50:02.674>uh, <00:50:02.850>you <00:50:03.024>know, <00:50:03.200>a <00:50:03.375>professional <00:50:03.549>touring <00:50:03.725>musician,

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<00:50:05.605>especially, <00:50:05.955>obviously, <00:50:06.305>you <00:50:06.655>know, <00:50:07.005>you've,

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<00:50:07.165>you've <00:50:07.417>got <00:50:07.669>some <00:50:07.921>great <00:50:08.173>chops

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<00:50:08.345>and, <00:50:08.625>um, <00:50:08.904>it's, <00:50:09.185>it <00:50:09.464>really, <00:50:09.745>it's,

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<00:50:10.675>it's <00:50:11.141>obviously <00:50:11.608>incredibly <00:50:12.075>competitive.

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<00:50:12.365>I <00:50:12.598>think <00:50:12.831>unlike <00:50:13.064>developers, <00:50:13.298>um, <00:50:13.531>you <00:50:13.765>programmers

1213
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<00:50:16.055>where <00:50:16.210>it <00:50:16.366>takes <00:50:16.521>say <00:50:16.677>a <00:50:16.832>team <00:50:16.988>of, <00:50:17.143>geez, <00:50:17.299>many, <00:50:17.455>many,

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<00:50:18.925>many <00:50:19.080>programmers <00:50:19.236>to, <00:50:19.391>um, <00:50:19.547>to <00:50:19.702>build <00:50:19.858>a <00:50:20.013>game, <00:50:20.169>you <00:50:20.325>know,

1215
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<00:50:22.045>sometimes <00:50:22.220>you'll <00:50:22.395>have <00:50:22.570>literally <00:50:22.745>one <00:50:22.920>musician <00:50:23.095>working <00:50:23.270>on <00:50:23.445>four

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<00:50:25.365>different <00:50:25.598>titles <00:50:25.831>and, <00:50:26.064>you <00:50:26.298>know, <00:50:26.531>uh, <00:50:26.765>so,

1217
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<00:50:27.985>and <00:50:28.140>they're <00:50:28.296>creating <00:50:28.451>that, <00:50:28.607>that, <00:50:28.762>that <00:50:28.918>music <00:50:29.073>over <00:50:29.229>the <00:50:29.385>course

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<00:50:30.605>of <00:50:30.760>a <00:50:30.916>year, <00:50:31.071>I <00:50:31.227>would, <00:50:31.382>you <00:50:31.538>know, <00:50:31.693>I'm <00:50:31.849>almost <00:50:32.005>tempted

1219
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<00:50:33.165>to <00:50:33.340>say <00:50:33.515>like, <00:50:33.690>when <00:50:33.865>musicians <00:50:34.040>approach <00:50:34.215>me <00:50:34.390>saying, <00:50:34.565>Hey,

1220
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<00:50:36.165>here's <00:50:36.398>my <00:50:36.631>demo <00:50:36.865>reel, <00:50:37.098>I'm <00:50:37.331>always <00:50:37.565>interested

1221
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<00:50:38.465>to <00:50:38.745>hear <00:50:39.025>not <00:50:39.305>just <00:50:39.585>their <00:50:39.865>music,

1222
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<00:50:40.425>but <00:50:40.580>how <00:50:40.736>they <00:50:40.891>integrated <00:50:41.047>their <00:50:41.202>music <00:50:41.358>and <00:50:41.513>sound <00:50:41.669>effects <00:50:41.825>and,

1223
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<00:50:43.645>and <00:50:43.800>sort <00:50:43.956>of <00:50:44.111>the <00:50:44.267>whole <00:50:44.422>audio <00:50:44.578>scape <00:50:44.733>into <00:50:44.889>a <00:50:45.045>game.

1224
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<00:50:46.705>So <00:50:46.946>what <00:50:47.187>tools <00:50:47.428>do <00:50:47.669>we <00:50:47.911>use?

1225
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<00:50:48.105>And <00:50:48.305>again, <00:50:48.505>and <00:50:48.705>I <00:50:48.905>point <00:50:49.105>toward <00:50:49.305>Game <00:50:49.505>Jams

1226
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<00:50:50.165>because <00:50:50.292>games <00:50:50.419>always <00:50:50.546>need <00:50:50.674>music <00:50:50.801>at, <00:50:50.928>at <00:50:51.055>Game <00:50:51.183>Jams, <00:50:51.310>it <00:50:51.437>is <00:50:51.565>not

1227
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<00:50:54.365>that <00:50:54.504>common <00:50:54.645>for <00:50:54.785>music <00:50:54.924>people <00:50:55.064>to <00:50:55.205>show <00:50:55.345>up, <00:50:55.484>even <00:50:55.625>virtual <00:50:55.765>ones.

1228
00:50:58.425 --> 00:51:00.845
<00:50:58.425>So <00:50:58.552>if <00:50:58.679>you <00:50:58.806>show <00:50:58.934>up <00:50:59.061>and <00:50:59.188>say, <00:50:59.315>Hey, <00:50:59.443>I'm <00:50:59.570>the <00:50:59.697>music <00:50:59.825>person

1229
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<00:51:01.025>and <00:51:01.225>I <00:51:01.425>am <00:51:01.625>happy <00:51:01.825>to <00:51:02.025>do <00:51:02.225>the <00:51:02.425>audio

1230
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<00:51:02.825>and <00:51:02.980>music <00:51:03.136>for <00:51:03.291>this <00:51:03.447>Game <00:51:03.602>Jam <00:51:03.758>game, <00:51:03.913>you <00:51:04.069>know <00:51:04.225>that,

1231
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<00:51:06.185>I'm <00:51:06.383>sure <00:51:06.581>that <00:51:06.779>would <00:51:06.977>be <00:51:07.174>fantastic.

1232
00:51:07.345 --> 00:51:10.005
<00:51:07.345>And <00:51:07.472>it <00:51:07.599>would <00:51:07.726>give <00:51:07.854>you, <00:51:07.981>uh, <00:51:08.108>it <00:51:08.235>would <00:51:08.363>give <00:51:08.490>you <00:51:08.617>an <00:51:08.745>experience.

1233
00:51:10.465 --> 00:51:12.325
<00:51:10.465>It <00:51:10.620>would <00:51:10.776>give <00:51:10.931>you <00:51:11.087>something <00:51:11.242>to <00:51:11.398>add <00:51:11.553>to <00:51:11.709>your <00:51:11.865>CV

1234
00:51:12.325 --> 00:51:13.565
<00:51:12.325>that <00:51:12.511>you <00:51:12.697>could <00:51:12.883>then, <00:51:13.069>you <00:51:13.255>know, <00:51:13.441>show

1235
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<00:51:13.585>to <00:51:13.818>other <00:51:14.051>developers <00:51:14.285>who <00:51:14.518>might <00:51:14.751>be <00:51:14.985>interested.

1236
00:51:16.265 --> 00:51:18.965
<00:51:16.265>Um, <00:51:16.392>but <00:51:16.519>there <00:51:16.646>are, <00:51:16.774>you <00:51:16.901>know, <00:51:17.028>it, <00:51:17.155>it <00:51:17.283>certainly <00:51:17.410>is <00:51:17.537>a <00:51:17.665>step

1237
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<00:51:18.965>that, <00:51:19.198>uh, <00:51:19.431>loads <00:51:19.665>of <00:51:19.898>musicians <00:51:20.131>are <00:51:20.365>taking.

1238
00:51:22.185 --> 00:51:24.285
<00:51:22.185>That's <00:51:22.340>a <00:51:22.496>good <00:51:22.651>advice, <00:51:22.807>Including <00:51:22.962>the <00:51:23.118>one <00:51:23.273>we <00:51:23.429>used <00:51:23.585>with,

1239
00:51:24.285 --> 00:51:25.445
<00:51:24.285>uh, <00:51:24.633>with <00:51:24.981>Empire <00:51:25.329>soon.

1240
00:51:26.025 --> 00:51:27.645
<00:51:26.025>That's <00:51:26.305>a <00:51:26.585>good <00:51:26.865>advice. <00:51:27.145>Thanks <00:51:27.425>Brenda.

1241
00:51:28.105 --> 00:51:32.765
<00:51:28.105>Uh, <00:51:28.280>then <00:51:28.455>interesting <00:51:28.630>question <00:51:28.805>from <00:51:28.980>Uriel, <00:51:29.155>um, <00:51:29.330>asking, <00:51:29.505>uh,

1242
00:51:32.785 --> 00:51:34.765
<00:51:32.785>do <00:51:33.018>you <00:51:33.251>think <00:51:33.484>the <00:51:33.718>framework <00:51:33.951>you <00:51:34.185>developed

1243
00:51:34.765 --> 00:51:38.325
<00:51:34.765>with <00:51:34.964>Ian <00:51:35.165>Schreiber <00:51:35.365>game <00:51:35.565>qualities, <00:51:35.765>players, <00:51:35.964>team <00:51:36.165>objectives,

1244
00:51:38.325 --> 00:51:40.605
<00:51:38.325>rules, <00:51:38.605>resources <00:51:38.884>and <00:51:39.165>interaction <00:51:39.444>is <00:51:39.725>still

1245
00:51:40.965 --> 00:51:42.045
<00:51:40.965>relevant <00:51:41.289>in <00:51:41.613>game <00:51:41.937>design?

1246
00:51:42.105 --> 00:51:44.405
<00:51:42.105>Or <00:51:42.305>do <00:51:42.505>you <00:51:42.705>use <00:51:42.905>an <00:51:43.105>upgraded <00:51:43.305>version <00:51:43.505>now?

1247
00:51:45.265 --> 00:51:48.325
<00:51:45.265>Um, <00:51:45.464>so <00:51:45.665>it's, <00:51:45.865>you <00:51:46.065>know, <00:51:46.265>isn't <00:51:46.464>that <00:51:46.665>interesting?

1248
00:51:48.325 --> 00:51:51.125
<00:51:48.325>So <00:51:48.441>like <00:51:48.558>when <00:51:48.674>I, <00:51:48.791>and <00:51:48.908>I <00:51:49.024>think <00:51:49.141>this <00:51:49.258>is <00:51:49.375>true <00:51:49.491>of <00:51:49.608>any <00:51:49.725>book.

1249
00:51:51.125 --> 00:51:52.885
<00:51:51.125>When <00:51:51.358>you, <00:51:51.591>when <00:51:51.825>you <00:51:52.058>write <00:51:52.291>a <00:51:52.525>book,

1250
00:51:52.985 --> 00:51:55.045
<00:51:52.985>if <00:51:53.125>you <00:51:53.265>look <00:51:53.405>back <00:51:53.545>on <00:51:53.685>it <00:51:53.825>10 <00:51:53.965>years <00:51:54.105>later, <00:51:54.245>you're <00:51:54.385>like,

1251
00:51:55.045 --> 00:51:56.565
<00:51:55.045>oh <00:51:55.240>my <00:51:55.435>goodness, <00:51:55.631>I <00:51:55.826>forgot <00:51:56.022>to <00:51:56.217>add <00:51:56.413>this.

1252
00:51:56.585 --> 00:51:57.605
<00:51:56.585>And <00:51:56.768>why <00:51:56.952>did <00:51:57.135>I <00:51:57.319>think <00:51:57.503>that?

1253
00:51:57.665 --> 00:51:58.685
<00:51:57.665>And, <00:51:58.124>you <00:51:58.583>know,

1254
00:51:58.685 --> 00:52:01.685
<00:51:58.685>because <00:51:58.884>game <00:51:59.085>design <00:51:59.285>is <00:51:59.485>an <00:51:59.685>evolving <00:51:59.884>field, <00:52:00.085>one

1255
00:52:01.685 --> 00:52:04.525
<00:52:01.685>of <00:52:01.840>the <00:52:01.996>benefits <00:52:02.151>that <00:52:02.307>challenges <00:52:02.462>had, <00:52:02.618>the <00:52:02.773>book, <00:52:02.929>the <00:52:03.085>book

1256
00:52:04.525 --> 00:52:07.045
<00:52:04.525>that, <00:52:04.758>um, <00:52:04.991>uh, <00:52:05.225>your <00:52:05.458>question <00:52:05.691>is <00:52:05.925>referring

1257
00:52:07.045 --> 00:52:08.525
<00:52:07.045>to <00:52:07.311>is <00:52:07.577>challenges <00:52:07.844>for <00:52:08.110>game <00:52:08.377>designers.

1258
00:52:08.665 --> 00:52:11.925
<00:52:08.665>And, <00:52:08.820>um, <00:52:08.976>one <00:52:09.131>of <00:52:09.287>the <00:52:09.442>benefits <00:52:09.598>that <00:52:09.753>it <00:52:09.909>had <00:52:10.065>is

1259
00:52:11.925 --> 00:52:13.285
<00:52:11.925>that <00:52:12.231>it <00:52:12.537>is <00:52:12.843>all <00:52:13.149>analog.

1260
00:52:13.305 --> 00:52:15.365
<00:52:13.305>So <00:52:13.504>there's <00:52:13.705>only <00:52:13.904>so <00:52:14.105>much <00:52:14.305>that <00:52:14.504>can <00:52:14.705>change.

1261
00:52:16.315 --> 00:52:19.245
<00:52:16.315>That <00:52:16.470>said, <00:52:16.626>uh, <00:52:16.781>we <00:52:16.937>are <00:52:17.092>planning <00:52:17.248>to <00:52:17.403>do <00:52:17.559>a <00:52:17.715>revision

1262
00:52:19.245 --> 00:52:20.685
<00:52:19.245>of <00:52:19.569>challenges <00:52:19.893>for <00:52:20.217>game <00:52:20.541>designers

1263
00:52:20.965 --> 00:52:22.085
<00:52:20.965>probably <00:52:21.133>in <00:52:21.301>the <00:52:21.469>next <00:52:21.637>couple <00:52:21.805>of <00:52:21.973>years.

1264
00:52:22.265 --> 00:52:25.405
<00:52:22.265>And <00:52:22.392>I <00:52:22.519>suspect <00:52:22.646>that, <00:52:22.774>uh, <00:52:22.901>when <00:52:23.028>we <00:52:23.155>do <00:52:23.283>our <00:52:23.410>new <00:52:23.537>version, <00:52:23.665>we'll,

1265
00:52:25.505 --> 00:52:28.445
<00:52:25.505>you <00:52:25.680>know, <00:52:25.855>we, <00:52:26.030>we, <00:52:26.205>we <00:52:26.380>argue <00:52:26.555>with <00:52:26.730>ourselves <00:52:26.905>constantly.

1266
00:52:28.465 --> 00:52:31.005
<00:52:28.465>And <00:52:28.620>I'm, <00:52:28.776>I'm <00:52:28.931>sure <00:52:29.087>we'll <00:52:29.242>have <00:52:29.398>arguments <00:52:29.553>with <00:52:29.709>ourselves, <00:52:29.865>uh,

1267
00:52:31.185 --> 00:52:32.645
<00:52:31.185>not, <00:52:31.404>we <00:52:31.623>don't <00:52:31.842>argue <00:52:32.061>with <00:52:32.279>one <00:52:32.499>another,

1268
00:52:32.865 --> 00:52:35.085
<00:52:32.865>but <00:52:33.064>just <00:52:33.265>like, <00:52:33.464>oh, <00:52:33.665>is <00:52:33.865>that <00:52:34.064>really <00:52:34.265>relevant?

1269
00:52:35.185 --> 00:52:37.725
<00:52:35.185>And, <00:52:35.312>you <00:52:35.439>know, <00:52:35.566>I'm <00:52:35.694>sure <00:52:35.821>that <00:52:35.948>we <00:52:36.075>will <00:52:36.203>have, <00:52:36.330>uh, <00:52:36.457>you <00:52:36.585>know,

1270
00:52:37.725 --> 00:52:39.405
<00:52:37.725>updated <00:52:38.075>opinions <00:52:38.424>throughout <00:52:38.775>the <00:52:39.125>book.

1271
00:52:40.375 --> 00:52:44.925
<00:52:40.375>Thank <00:52:40.530>you. <00:52:40.686>Um, <00:52:40.841>PA <00:52:40.997>is <00:52:41.152>asking <00:52:41.308>how <00:52:41.463>mature <00:52:41.619>are <00:52:41.775>games

1272
00:52:45.145 --> 00:52:48.365
<00:52:45.145>as <00:52:45.320>a <00:52:45.495>medium <00:52:45.670>using <00:52:45.845>the <00:52:46.020>film <00:52:46.195>industry <00:52:46.370>timeline <00:52:46.545>analogy.

1273
00:52:48.495 --> 00:52:51.045
<00:52:48.495>Where <00:52:48.670>would <00:52:48.845>you <00:52:49.020>push <00:52:49.194>the <00:52:49.370>gaming <00:52:49.545>industry <00:52:49.720>right <00:52:49.895>now?

1274
00:52:52.105 --> 00:52:53.885
<00:52:52.105>Oh, <00:52:52.455>geez. <00:52:52.805>Isn't <00:52:53.155>that <00:52:53.505>interesting?

1275
00:52:53.885 --> 00:52:56.485
<00:52:53.885>Um, <00:52:54.085>that's <00:52:54.285>a <00:52:54.485>tough <00:52:54.685>question. <00:52:54.885>It <00:52:55.085>really <00:52:55.285>is.

1276
00:52:56.705 --> 00:53:01.445
<00:52:56.705>You <00:52:56.860>know, <00:52:57.016>like, <00:52:57.171>I, <00:52:57.327>I <00:52:57.482>feel <00:52:57.638>that <00:52:57.793>we <00:52:57.949>are, <00:52:58.105>um,

1277
00:53:02.845 --> 00:53:06.725
<00:53:02.845>I <00:53:03.044>feel <00:53:03.245>that <00:53:03.444>com <00:53:03.645>our <00:53:03.845>commercial <00:53:04.044>industry <00:53:04.245>is,

1278
00:53:07.605 --> 00:53:10.085
<00:53:07.605>I <00:53:07.745>I, <00:53:07.885>gosh, <00:53:08.025>it <00:53:08.165>is <00:53:08.305>a <00:53:08.445>really, <00:53:08.585>it's <00:53:08.725>a <00:53:08.865>great <00:53:09.005>question.

1279
00:53:10.155 --> 00:53:11.565
<00:53:10.155>I've <00:53:10.366>never <00:53:10.578>actually <00:53:10.789>been <00:53:11.001>asked <00:53:11.212>that <00:53:11.424>question,

1280
00:53:11.565 --> 00:53:14.405
<00:53:11.565>which <00:53:11.720>makes <00:53:11.876>it, <00:53:12.031>which <00:53:12.187>makes <00:53:12.342>me <00:53:12.498>think <00:53:12.653>on <00:53:12.809>my <00:53:12.965>feet.

1281
00:53:14.465 --> 00:53:17.085
<00:53:14.465>So <00:53:14.640>I <00:53:14.815>love <00:53:14.990>it. <00:53:15.165>And, <00:53:15.340>um, <00:53:15.515>I <00:53:15.690>love <00:53:15.865>it.

1282
00:53:17.085 --> 00:53:18.125
<00:53:17.085>But <00:53:17.319>it, <00:53:17.553>but <00:53:17.787>it's <00:53:18.021>challenging.

1283
00:53:18.365 --> 00:53:21.285
<00:53:18.365>I <00:53:18.492>think, <00:53:18.619>you <00:53:18.746>know, <00:53:18.874>when <00:53:19.001>I <00:53:19.128>look <00:53:19.255>at <00:53:19.383>the, <00:53:19.510>the <00:53:19.637>film <00:53:19.765>industry,

1284
00:53:21.285 --> 00:53:24.125
<00:53:21.285>they've <00:53:21.484>got <00:53:21.685>sort <00:53:21.884>of <00:53:22.085>their <00:53:22.285>blockbuster, <00:53:22.484>their <00:53:22.685>blockbusters,

1285
00:53:24.125 --> 00:53:25.245
<00:53:24.125>and <00:53:24.461>then <00:53:24.797>their <00:53:25.133>independence.

1286
00:53:25.985 --> 00:53:29.405
<00:53:25.985>We <00:53:26.112>have <00:53:26.239>that <00:53:26.366>as <00:53:26.494>well. <00:53:26.621>Have <00:53:26.748>we <00:53:26.875>had <00:53:27.003>our <00:53:27.130>Citizen <00:53:27.257>Caan <00:53:27.385>moment?

1287
00:53:29.945 --> 00:53:34.085
<00:53:29.945>You <00:53:30.072>know, <00:53:30.199>like <00:53:30.326>I <00:53:30.454>think <00:53:30.581>the <00:53:30.708>closest <00:53:30.835>we've <00:53:30.963>got <00:53:31.090>right <00:53:31.217>now <00:53:31.345>is,

1288
00:53:34.185 --> 00:53:37.365
<00:53:34.185>um, <00:53:34.384>for <00:53:34.585>me <00:53:34.785>anyway, <00:53:34.985>is <00:53:35.185>that <00:53:35.384>Dragon <00:53:35.585>Cancer.

1289
00:53:37.805 --> 00:53:40.245
<00:53:37.805>I, <00:53:37.960>I <00:53:38.116>think <00:53:38.271>it's <00:53:38.427>not <00:53:38.582>an <00:53:38.738>easy <00:53:38.893>game <00:53:39.049>to <00:53:39.205>play.

1290
00:53:40.945 --> 00:53:44.325
<00:53:40.945>Uh, <00:53:41.072>it's, <00:53:41.199>it <00:53:41.326>is, <00:53:41.454>it's, <00:53:41.581>but <00:53:41.708>my <00:53:41.835>God <00:53:41.963>is <00:53:42.090>brilliant, <00:53:42.217>you <00:53:42.345>know,

1291
00:53:44.325 --> 00:53:46.325
<00:53:44.325>and <00:53:44.500>I <00:53:44.674>would <00:53:44.850>say <00:53:45.024>it's, <00:53:45.200>you <00:53:45.375>know, <00:53:45.549>for <00:53:45.725>those

1292
00:53:46.325 --> 00:53:49.485
<00:53:46.325>of <00:53:46.452>you <00:53:46.579>interested <00:53:46.706>in <00:53:46.834>checking <00:53:46.961>it <00:53:47.088>out, <00:53:47.215>um, <00:53:47.343>I <00:53:47.470>would, <00:53:47.597>you <00:53:47.725>know,

1293
00:53:49.525 --> 00:53:51.245
<00:53:49.525>I <00:53:49.725>would <00:53:49.925>ask, <00:53:50.125>don't <00:53:50.325>watch <00:53:50.525>a <00:53:50.725>let's <00:53:50.925>play.

1294
00:53:51.445 --> 00:53:52.725
<00:53:51.445>'cause <00:53:51.675>developers <00:53:51.905>don't <00:53:52.136>get, <00:53:52.366>you <00:53:52.596>know,

1295
00:53:52.725 --> 00:53:53.885
<00:53:52.725>they <00:53:52.899>don't <00:53:53.073>get <00:53:53.247>any <00:53:53.421>money <00:53:53.595>from <00:53:53.769>that.

1296
00:53:54.065 --> 00:53:56.965
<00:53:54.065>And <00:53:54.205>we, <00:53:54.345>um, <00:53:54.485>as <00:53:54.625>a <00:53:54.765>result <00:53:54.905>of <00:53:55.045>that, <00:53:55.185>you <00:53:55.325>know, <00:53:55.465>they,

1297
00:53:56.965 --> 00:53:58.685
<00:53:56.965>they <00:53:57.245>don't <00:53:57.525>necessarily <00:53:57.805>make <00:53:58.085>more <00:53:58.365>games.

1298
00:53:58.945 --> 00:54:00.565
<00:53:58.945>And <00:53:59.178>so, <00:53:59.411>you <00:53:59.645>know, <00:53:59.878>it's <00:54:00.111>not <00:54:00.345>expensive.

1299
00:54:01.065 --> 00:54:03.325
<00:54:01.065>Um, <00:54:01.240>and <00:54:01.415>certainly <00:54:01.590>the <00:54:01.765>game <00:54:01.940>is <00:54:02.115>well <00:54:02.290>worth <00:54:02.465>it.

1300
00:54:03.505 --> 00:54:06.045
<00:54:03.505>Um, <00:54:03.660>I <00:54:03.816>feel <00:54:03.971>like <00:54:04.127>that's <00:54:04.282>as <00:54:04.438>close <00:54:04.593>as <00:54:04.749>we've <00:54:04.905>had

1301
00:54:06.045 --> 00:54:07.365
<00:54:06.045>to <00:54:06.342>our <00:54:06.639>Citizen <00:54:06.935>Kane <00:54:07.232>moment.

1302
00:54:07.825 --> 00:54:12.445
<00:54:07.825>We <00:54:08.000>are <00:54:08.174>starting <00:54:08.350>to <00:54:08.524>explore <00:54:08.700>finally <00:54:08.875>difficult <00:54:09.049>topics, <00:54:09.225>right?

1303
00:54:12.475 --> 00:54:14.565
<00:54:12.475>Like, <00:54:12.674>there's <00:54:12.875>plenty, <00:54:13.075>some <00:54:13.275>of <00:54:13.475>the <00:54:13.674>best <00:54:13.875>movies

1304
00:54:14.635 --> 00:54:18.245
<00:54:14.635>that <00:54:14.810>I've <00:54:14.985>ever <00:54:15.160>seen <00:54:15.335>are <00:54:15.510>about <00:54:15.685>incredibly <00:54:15.860>difficult <00:54:16.035>topics,

1305
00:54:19.345 --> 00:54:22.525
<00:54:19.345>um, <00:54:19.500>where <00:54:19.656>I <00:54:19.811>think <00:54:19.967>we're <00:54:20.122>still <00:54:20.278>held <00:54:20.433>back, <00:54:20.589>for <00:54:20.745>instance,

1306
00:54:22.525 --> 00:54:24.565
<00:54:22.525>like <00:54:22.805>games, <00:54:23.085>uh, <00:54:23.365>say <00:54:23.645>in <00:54:23.925>Australia,

1307
00:54:25.105 --> 00:54:27.245
<00:54:25.105>if <00:54:25.280>your <00:54:25.455>game <00:54:25.630>cannot <00:54:25.805>be <00:54:25.980>played <00:54:26.155>by <00:54:26.330>somebody <00:54:26.505>17

1308
00:54:27.305 --> 00:54:29.765
<00:54:27.305>or <00:54:27.504>younger, <00:54:27.705>your <00:54:27.904>game <00:54:28.105>can <00:54:28.305>be <00:54:28.504>refused <00:54:28.705>classification,

1309
00:54:30.585 --> 00:54:31.765
<00:54:30.585>and <00:54:30.762>nobody <00:54:30.939>can <00:54:31.116>play <00:54:31.293>it <00:54:31.470>at <00:54:31.647>all.

1310
00:54:31.765 --> 00:54:33.125
<00:54:31.765>It <00:54:31.969>can't <00:54:32.173>even <00:54:32.377>be <00:54:32.581>sold <00:54:32.785>there, <00:54:32.989>right?

1311
00:54:33.225 --> 00:54:35.125
<00:54:33.225>So <00:54:33.458>you, <00:54:33.691>you <00:54:33.924>wouldn't <00:54:34.158>say, <00:54:34.391>you <00:54:34.625>know,

1312
00:54:35.125 --> 00:54:37.565
<00:54:35.125>there's <00:54:35.358>basically <00:54:35.591>no <00:54:35.825>concept <00:54:36.058>in <00:54:36.291>some <00:54:36.525>places

1313
00:54:37.705 --> 00:54:39.325
<00:54:37.705>of <00:54:38.055>an <00:54:38.404>r <00:54:38.755>rated <00:54:39.105>game.

1314
00:54:39.505 --> 00:54:43.685
<00:54:39.505>So <00:54:39.632>we <00:54:39.759>still <00:54:39.886>do <00:54:40.014>not <00:54:40.141>have <00:54:40.268>on <00:54:40.395>our <00:54:40.523>palette <00:54:40.650>the <00:54:40.777>full <00:54:40.905>range

1315
00:54:43.705 --> 00:54:48.685
<00:54:43.705>of <00:54:43.904>human <00:54:44.105>experience, <00:54:44.305>um, <00:54:44.505>uh, <00:54:44.705>just <00:54:44.904>commercially <00:54:45.105>speaking.

1316
00:54:48.865 --> 00:54:51.925
<00:54:48.865>So, <00:54:48.992>you <00:54:49.119>know, <00:54:49.246>we <00:54:49.374>still, <00:54:49.501>we <00:54:49.628>still <00:54:49.755>have <00:54:49.883>a <00:54:50.010>ways <00:54:50.137>to <00:54:50.265>go,

1317
00:54:52.065 --> 00:54:56.605
<00:54:52.065>you <00:54:52.192>know, <00:54:52.319>like <00:54:52.446>when, <00:54:52.574>when, <00:54:52.701>when <00:54:52.828>our, <00:54:52.955>um, <00:54:53.083>you <00:54:53.210>know, <00:54:53.337>when <00:54:53.465>our,

1318
00:54:57.625 --> 00:55:00.005
<00:54:57.625>uh, <00:54:57.905>when <00:54:58.185>we <00:54:58.465>have <00:54:58.745>those <00:54:59.025>limitations.

1319
00:55:00.105 --> 00:55:01.645
<00:55:00.105>And <00:55:00.382>there's <00:55:00.659>another <00:55:00.936>thing <00:55:01.213>too, <00:55:01.491>like

1320
00:55:02.075 --> 00:55:04.845
<00:55:02.075>that <00:55:02.230>the <00:55:02.386>film <00:55:02.541>industry <00:55:02.697>doesn't <00:55:02.852>have, <00:55:03.008>like <00:55:03.163>games <00:55:03.319>are <00:55:03.475>sort

1321
00:55:04.845 --> 00:55:07.645
<00:55:04.845>of <00:55:05.044>in <00:55:05.245>the <00:55:05.444>like, <00:55:05.645>like <00:55:05.845>ship <00:55:06.044>the <00:55:06.245>game.

1322
00:55:07.975 --> 00:55:11.365
<00:55:07.975>We've <00:55:08.102>got <00:55:08.229>some <00:55:08.356>amount <00:55:08.484>of <00:55:08.611>time <00:55:08.738>until <00:55:08.865>it's <00:55:08.993>going <00:55:09.120>to <00:55:09.247>be <00:55:09.375>on,

1323
00:55:11.495 --> 00:55:12.645
<00:55:11.495>until <00:55:11.840>it'll <00:55:12.185>go <00:55:12.529>live.

1324
00:55:12.905 --> 00:55:16.045
<00:55:12.905>So <00:55:13.138>your <00:55:13.371>infra <00:55:13.605>certification <00:55:13.838>with <00:55:14.071>the <00:55:14.305>consoles,

1325
00:55:16.715 --> 00:55:18.725
<00:55:16.715>it's <00:55:16.915>gonna <00:55:17.115>go <00:55:17.315>live <00:55:17.515>and <00:55:17.715>everybody <00:55:17.915>knows <00:55:18.115>this.

1326
00:55:18.725 --> 00:55:20.005
<00:55:18.725>You <00:55:18.889>buy <00:55:19.054>the <00:55:19.218>game <00:55:19.383>and <00:55:19.547>you <00:55:19.712>get <00:55:19.877>this

1327
00:55:20.005 --> 00:55:21.525
<00:55:20.005>massive <00:55:20.347>day <00:55:20.689>one <00:55:21.031>update, <00:55:21.373>right?

1328
00:55:21.705 --> 00:55:25.005
<00:55:21.705>And <00:55:21.845>it <00:55:21.985>may <00:55:22.125>not <00:55:22.265>fix <00:55:22.404>that <00:55:22.545>everything, <00:55:22.685>um, <00:55:22.825>films <00:55:22.965>don't <00:55:23.105>have

1329
00:55:25.005 --> 00:55:26.885
<00:55:25.005>that, <00:55:25.205>you <00:55:25.405>know, <00:55:25.605>they <00:55:25.805>don't <00:55:26.005>release <00:55:26.205>the <00:55:26.405>film

1330
00:55:26.905 --> 00:55:30.365
<00:55:26.905>and <00:55:27.045>then <00:55:27.185>go, <00:55:27.325>oh, <00:55:27.465>well, <00:55:27.605>you <00:55:27.745>know, <00:55:27.885>we'll, <00:55:28.025>we'll, <00:55:28.165>you <00:55:28.305>know,

1331
00:55:30.365 --> 00:55:31.365
<00:55:30.365>we'll <00:55:30.589>just <00:55:30.814>patch <00:55:31.040>the <00:55:31.265>film.

1332
00:55:31.455 --> 00:55:33.685
<00:55:31.455>We'll, <00:55:31.654>we'll <00:55:31.855>put <00:55:32.055>patch <00:55:32.255>notes <00:55:32.455>in <00:55:32.654>the <00:55:32.855>theater.

1333
00:55:33.955 --> 00:55:35.245
<00:55:33.955>Like, <00:55:34.245>you <00:55:34.535>release <00:55:34.825>it <00:55:35.116>and,

1334
00:55:35.245 --> 00:55:36.685
<00:55:35.245>and <00:55:35.461>you <00:55:35.676>live <00:55:35.893>with <00:55:36.109>what <00:55:36.325>you <00:55:36.541>release.

1335
00:55:37.225 --> 00:55:39.925
<00:55:37.225>Um, <00:55:37.400>you <00:55:37.575>know, <00:55:37.750>and <00:55:37.924>I, <00:55:38.100>I, <00:55:38.275>I, <00:55:38.450>you <00:55:38.625>know,

1336
00:55:39.925 --> 00:55:42.165
<00:55:39.925>that <00:55:40.065>is <00:55:40.205>something <00:55:40.345>I <00:55:40.485>would <00:55:40.625>love <00:55:40.765>to <00:55:40.905>see <00:55:41.045>change <00:55:41.185>in <00:55:41.325>games.

1337
00:55:42.365 --> 00:55:44.045
<00:55:42.365>I, <00:55:42.598>so <00:55:42.831>no, <00:55:43.064>we're <00:55:43.298>not <00:55:43.531>there <00:55:43.765>yet.

1338
00:55:44.045 --> 00:55:45.805
<00:55:44.045>You <00:55:44.245>know, <00:55:44.445>we're <00:55:44.645>still, <00:55:44.845>there's <00:55:45.045>still <00:55:45.245>all <00:55:45.445>kinds

1339
00:55:45.805 --> 00:55:47.685
<00:55:45.805>of <00:55:46.004>stuff <00:55:46.205>we're, <00:55:46.404>we're <00:55:46.605>trying <00:55:46.805>to <00:55:47.004>figure <00:55:47.205>out.

1340
00:55:49.155 --> 00:55:52.365
<00:55:49.155>Okay. <00:55:49.282>Thank <00:55:49.409>you <00:55:49.536>Brenda. <00:55:49.664>We <00:55:49.791>are <00:55:49.918>running <00:55:50.045>out <00:55:50.173>of <00:55:50.300>time <00:55:50.427>a <00:55:50.555>bit.

1341
00:55:52.425 --> 00:55:54.805
<00:55:52.425>So <00:55:52.658>a <00:55:52.891>very <00:55:53.125>last, <00:55:53.358>uh, <00:55:53.591>last <00:55:53.825>question.

1342
00:55:55.145 --> 00:55:56.925
<00:55:55.145>Uh, <00:55:55.425>and <00:55:55.705>please <00:55:55.985>a <00:55:56.265>short <00:55:56.545>answer,

1343
00:55:57.315 --> 00:55:59.365
<00:55:57.315>what <00:55:57.595>project <00:55:57.875>you're <00:55:58.155>currently <00:55:58.435>working <00:55:58.715>on.

1344
00:55:59.425 --> 00:56:02.165
<00:55:59.425>So <00:55:59.552>what <00:55:59.679>we, <00:55:59.806>what <00:55:59.934>can <00:56:00.061>we <00:56:00.188>be <00:56:00.315>excited <00:56:00.443>on <00:56:00.570>for <00:56:00.697>the <00:56:00.825>future?

1345
00:56:02.465 --> 00:56:07.405
<00:56:02.465>Um, <00:56:02.581>I <00:56:02.698>am <00:56:02.815>working <00:56:02.931>on <00:56:03.048>the <00:56:03.165>fir <00:56:03.281>uh, <00:56:03.398>the <00:56:03.515>first <00:56:03.631>DLC <00:56:03.748>for, <00:56:03.865>uh,

1346
00:56:07.465 --> 00:56:09.165
<00:56:07.465>empire <00:56:07.698>of <00:56:07.931>Sin <00:56:08.165>called <00:56:08.398>Make <00:56:08.631>It <00:56:08.865>Count.

1347
00:56:10.025 --> 00:56:12.045
<00:56:10.025>And <00:56:10.225>that <00:56:10.425>is <00:56:10.625>what <00:56:10.825>I <00:56:11.025>literally <00:56:11.225>am <00:56:11.425>going

1348
00:56:12.045 --> 00:56:14.085
<00:56:12.045>to <00:56:12.278>go <00:56:12.511>play <00:56:12.745>two <00:56:12.978>minutes <00:56:13.211>from <00:56:13.445>now.

1349
00:56:14.835 --> 00:56:17.645
<00:56:14.835>Perfect. <00:56:15.068>So <00:56:15.301>Brenda, <00:56:15.535>thank <00:56:15.768>you <00:56:16.001>so <00:56:16.235>much.

1350
00:56:18.225 --> 00:56:21.965
<00:56:18.225>Um, <00:56:18.365>I'm <00:56:18.505>so <00:56:18.645>excited <00:56:18.785>about <00:56:18.924>meeting <00:56:19.065>you <00:56:19.205>again <00:56:19.345>in <00:56:19.485>person <00:56:19.625>at,

1351
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