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381
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382
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383
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385
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387
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388
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389
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390
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391
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392
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393
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394
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395
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397
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398
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399
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400
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401
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and

402
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403
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404
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405
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406
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407
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408
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409
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410
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411
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412
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413
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414
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415
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416
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417
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418
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419
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420
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421
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422
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425
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426
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427
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428
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429
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years.

430
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431
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432
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433
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434
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435
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436
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437
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438
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439
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440
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and

441
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442
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443
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444
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445
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446
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447
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448
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449
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450
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451
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452
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453
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454
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455
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456
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beginning.

457
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458
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459
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460
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461
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462
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463
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464
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465
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attack.

466
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467
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468
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<00:23:02.200>depends <00:23:02.433>that <00:23:02.666>they <00:23:02.900>are <00:23:03.133>attacked <00:23:03.366>the <00:23:03.600>prop

469
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470
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<00:23:09.400>when <00:23:09.575>a <00:23:09.750>attack <00:23:09.925>is <00:23:10.100>severe <00:23:10.275>of <00:23:10.450>an <00:23:10.625>attack <00:23:10.800>is

471
00:23:12.300 --> 00:23:15.200
<00:23:12.300>like <00:23:12.455>something <00:23:12.611>that <00:23:12.766>you <00:23:12.922>say <00:23:13.077>it's <00:23:13.233>a <00:23:13.388>it's <00:23:13.544>a <00:23:13.700>normal

472
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<00:23:15.200>business <00:23:15.340>if <00:23:15.480>you <00:23:15.620>have <00:23:15.760>a <00:23:15.900>DDOS <00:23:16.040>attack, <00:23:16.180>for <00:23:16.320>example, <00:23:16.460>and <00:23:16.600>we

473
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<00:23:18.100>see <00:23:18.449>Adidas <00:23:18.800>attack <00:23:19.149>meme <00:23:19.500>once

474
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<00:23:21.800>a <00:23:22.000>year <00:23:22.200>or <00:23:22.399>something <00:23:22.600>like <00:23:22.800>that <00:23:23.000>a <00:23:23.200>severe

475
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<00:23:24.600>DDOS <00:23:24.879>attack <00:23:25.159>to <00:23:25.439>our <00:23:25.719>servers <00:23:26.000>to

476
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<00:23:27.100>our <00:23:27.460>web <00:23:27.820>servers.

477
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<00:23:28.500>Yes, <00:23:28.780>it <00:23:29.060>happens <00:23:29.340>and <00:23:29.620>this <00:23:29.900>happens

478
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<00:23:31.300>also <00:23:31.475>to <00:23:31.649>other <00:23:31.825>companies <00:23:32.000>but <00:23:32.175>we <00:23:32.350>wouldn't <00:23:32.524>rate <00:23:32.700>this

479
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<00:23:34.300>as <00:23:34.455>a <00:23:34.611>severe <00:23:34.766>attack <00:23:34.922>to <00:23:35.077>our <00:23:35.233>critical <00:23:35.388>infrastructure, <00:23:35.544>but <00:23:35.700>I

480
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<00:23:37.800>would <00:23:38.149>say <00:23:38.500>so <00:23:38.850>a <00:23:39.200>more

481
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<00:23:40.200>severe <00:23:40.480>detector <00:23:40.760>office <00:23:41.040>it <00:23:41.320>infrastructure <00:23:41.600>would

482
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<00:23:43.900>happen. <00:23:44.133>So <00:23:44.366>once <00:23:44.600>a <00:23:44.833>year <00:23:45.066>something <00:23:45.300>like

483
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that.

484
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<00:23:47.200>And <00:23:47.375>of <00:23:47.550>course, <00:23:47.725>sometimes <00:23:47.900>you <00:23:48.075>have <00:23:48.250>also <00:23:48.425>attacks <00:23:48.600>you're

485
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<00:23:50.600>able <00:23:50.774>to <00:23:50.949>defend <00:23:51.125>right <00:23:51.300>at <00:23:51.475>the <00:23:51.649>beginning. <00:23:51.824>We <00:23:52.000>don't

486
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<00:23:53.200>count <00:23:53.666>them <00:23:54.133>so <00:23:54.600>precisely.

487
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Okay.

488
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<00:24:01.200>I <00:24:01.433>see <00:24:01.666>you <00:24:01.900>that. <00:24:02.133>Okay. <00:24:02.366>This <00:24:02.600>topic

489
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<00:24:04.300>is <00:24:04.455>quite <00:24:04.611>hot <00:24:04.766>and <00:24:04.922>I <00:24:05.077>see <00:24:05.233>some <00:24:05.388>of <00:24:05.544>the <00:24:05.700>question.

490
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<00:24:09.100>how <00:24:09.333>much <00:24:09.566>would <00:24:09.800>it <00:24:10.033>cost <00:24:10.266>that's <00:24:10.500>that's

491
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<00:24:13.700>quite <00:24:14.105>tricky <00:24:14.510>because

492
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<00:24:17.300>When <00:24:17.475>when <00:24:17.649>you <00:24:17.825>do <00:24:18.000>this <00:24:18.175>refit <00:24:18.350>of <00:24:18.524>a <00:24:18.700>substation

493
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<00:24:20.700>with <00:24:20.980>a <00:24:21.260>cost <00:24:21.540>it's <00:24:21.820>typically <00:24:22.100>there.

494
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<00:24:23.700>There <00:24:23.933>are <00:24:24.166>some <00:24:24.400>parts <00:24:24.633>of <00:24:24.866>the <00:24:25.100>cost.

495
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<00:24:27.800>And <00:24:27.975>the <00:24:28.149>if <00:24:28.325>you <00:24:28.500>have <00:24:28.675>a <00:24:28.850>new <00:24:29.024>switch <00:24:29.200>gear,

496
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<00:24:30.400>for <00:24:30.527>example, <00:24:30.654>if <00:24:30.781>the <00:24:30.909>primary <00:24:31.036>systems <00:24:31.163>which <00:24:31.290>are <00:24:31.418>really <00:24:31.545>doing <00:24:31.672>the <00:24:31.800>the

497
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<00:24:33.500>switching <00:24:33.700>then <00:24:33.900>they're <00:24:34.100>very <00:24:34.300>much <00:24:34.500>often <00:24:34.700>heavier <00:24:34.900>than

498
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<00:24:36.600>the <00:24:36.774>old <00:24:36.949>ones. <00:24:37.125>So <00:24:37.300>there <00:24:37.475>are <00:24:37.649>better <00:24:37.824>build. <00:24:38.000>There

499
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<00:24:39.500>is <00:24:39.675>more <00:24:39.850>metal. <00:24:40.025>So <00:24:40.200>there <00:24:40.375>there <00:24:40.550>is <00:24:40.725>there <00:24:40.900>is

500
00:24:43.300 --> 00:24:46.000
<00:24:43.300>more <00:24:43.580>support <00:24:43.860>your <00:24:44.139>need <00:24:44.419>from <00:24:44.700>the

501
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<00:24:46.700>concrete <00:24:46.875>you <00:24:47.050>need <00:24:47.225>from <00:24:47.400>the <00:24:47.575>floor <00:24:47.750>there <00:24:47.925>very <00:24:48.100>often

502
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<00:24:49.300>in <00:24:49.533>the <00:24:49.766>first <00:24:50.000>floor. <00:24:50.233>So <00:24:50.466>there <00:24:50.700>is

503
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<00:24:52.100>one <00:24:52.370>floor <00:24:52.640>down.

504
00:24:53.300 --> 00:24:56.600
<00:24:53.300>And <00:24:53.427>what <00:24:53.554>we <00:24:53.681>see <00:24:53.809>very <00:24:53.936>often <00:24:54.063>that <00:24:54.190>we <00:24:54.318>need <00:24:54.445>to <00:24:54.572>do <00:24:54.700>some

505
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<00:24:56.600>additional <00:24:56.949>support <00:24:57.300>in <00:24:57.649>the <00:24:58.000>building.

506
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<00:24:59.200>To <00:24:59.400>really <00:24:59.600>put <00:24:59.800>the <00:25:00.000>switch <00:25:00.200>gear <00:25:00.400>there <00:25:00.600>in.

507
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<00:25:02.200>This <00:25:02.327>takes <00:25:02.454>quite <00:25:02.581>a <00:25:02.709>long <00:25:02.836>time <00:25:02.963>and <00:25:03.090>it's <00:25:03.218>quite <00:25:03.345>expensive. <00:25:03.472>The <00:25:03.600>switch

508
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<00:25:06.100>gear <00:25:06.449>itself <00:25:06.800>is <00:25:07.149>not <00:25:07.500>that

509
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<00:25:09.600>it's <00:25:10.066>not <00:25:10.533>that <00:25:11.000>expensive.

510
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<00:25:14.200>Some <00:25:15.460>yeah.

511
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<00:25:16.500>for <00:25:16.700>for <00:25:16.900>one <00:25:17.100>of <00:25:17.300>the <00:25:17.500>one <00:25:17.700>of <00:25:17.900>the

512
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<00:25:19.400>parts <00:25:19.600>of <00:25:19.800>a <00:25:20.000>substation <00:25:20.200>like <00:25:20.400>a <00:25:20.600>10kv <00:25:20.800>you

513
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<00:25:22.800>can <00:25:23.266>save <00:25:23.733>one <00:25:24.200>cabinet.

514
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<00:25:25.300>We <00:25:25.649>saw <00:25:26.000>I <00:25:26.350>just <00:25:26.700>go

515
00:25:28.400 --> 00:25:31.900
<00:25:28.400>one <00:25:28.555>to <00:25:28.711>the <00:25:28.866>slide <00:25:29.022>here. <00:25:29.177>So <00:25:29.333>like <00:25:29.488>this <00:25:29.644>one <00:25:29.800>cabinet.

516
00:25:32.600 --> 00:25:35.300
<00:25:32.600>It's <00:25:33.066>yeah <00:25:33.533>about <00:25:34.000>in

517
00:25:35.300 --> 00:25:36.300
<00:25:35.300>the <00:25:35.600>range <00:25:35.899>of <00:25:36.200>about.

518
00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:40.300
<00:25:37.400>Below <00:25:38.100>100,000 <00:25:38.800>euros

519
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<00:25:40.300>with <00:25:40.649>erection <00:25:41.000>construction <00:25:41.350>and <00:25:41.700>things

520
00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:46.200
<00:25:43.200>like <00:25:43.433>that, <00:25:43.666>but <00:25:43.900>still <00:25:44.133>it <00:25:44.366>a <00:25:44.600>little

521
00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:49.000
<00:25:46.200>bit <00:25:46.340>depends. <00:25:46.480>What <00:25:46.620>is <00:25:46.760>the <00:25:46.900>surrounding? <00:25:47.040>But <00:25:47.180>yes, <00:25:47.320>it's <00:25:47.460>a <00:25:47.600>lot

522
00:25:49.100 --> 00:25:52.300
<00:25:49.100>of <00:25:49.227>money <00:25:49.354>you <00:25:49.481>need <00:25:49.609>to <00:25:49.736>spend <00:25:49.863>and <00:25:49.990>what <00:25:50.118>is <00:25:50.245>more <00:25:50.372>our <00:25:50.500>problem?

523
00:25:53.600 --> 00:25:56.400
<00:25:53.600>You <00:25:53.774>need <00:25:53.949>the <00:25:54.125>experts <00:25:54.300>to <00:25:54.475>do <00:25:54.649>this. <00:25:54.824>So <00:25:55.000>so

524
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<00:25:56.400>doing <00:25:56.555>this <00:25:56.711>refit. <00:25:56.866>You <00:25:57.022>need <00:25:57.177>a <00:25:57.333>lot <00:25:57.488>of <00:25:57.644>skilled <00:25:57.800>and

525
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<00:25:59.400>very <00:25:59.750>good <00:26:00.100>people <00:26:00.450>to <00:26:00.800>do

526
00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:02.800
<00:26:02.200>this <00:26:02.740>things.

527
00:26:03.900 --> 00:26:04.400
mmm

528
00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:09.900
<00:26:06.400>And <00:26:06.575>I <00:26:06.750>see <00:26:06.925>another <00:26:07.100>question <00:26:07.275>from <00:26:07.450>Antonio <00:26:07.625>and <00:26:07.800>these

529
00:26:09.900 --> 00:26:12.400
<00:26:09.900>big <00:26:10.133>measurements <00:26:10.366>are <00:26:10.600>these <00:26:10.833>are <00:26:11.066>these <00:26:11.300>big

530
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<00:26:12.400>measurements <00:26:12.600>and <00:26:12.800>principles <00:26:13.000>also <00:26:13.200>scalable <00:26:13.400>to <00:26:13.600>a <00:26:13.800>much

531
00:26:15.300 --> 00:26:18.200
<00:26:15.300>smaller <00:26:15.580>scale <00:26:15.860>like <00:26:16.139>example <00:26:16.419>your <00:26:16.700>own

532
00:26:18.200 --> 00:26:19.200
<00:26:18.200>Smart <00:26:19.100>Home.

533
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I

534
00:26:23.900 --> 00:26:28.300
<00:26:23.900>some <00:26:24.075>of <00:26:24.250>the <00:26:24.425>principles <00:26:24.600>are <00:26:24.775>for <00:26:24.950>sure <00:26:25.125>you <00:26:25.300>can

535
00:26:27.300 --> 00:26:30.100
<00:26:27.300>transfer <00:26:27.766>but <00:26:28.233>of <00:26:28.700>course

536
00:26:30.100 --> 00:26:33.200
<00:26:30.100>if <00:26:30.300>you <00:26:30.500>look <00:26:30.699>to <00:26:30.899>this <00:26:31.100>to <00:26:31.300>a <00:26:31.500>large

537
00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:36.200
<00:26:33.200>company <00:26:33.480>like <00:26:33.760>ours <00:26:34.040>with <00:26:34.320>a <00:26:34.600>lot

538
00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:40.100
<00:26:36.200>of <00:26:36.355>Specialists <00:26:36.511>you <00:26:36.666>have <00:26:36.822>a <00:26:36.977>lot <00:26:37.133>of <00:26:37.288>departments <00:26:37.444>and <00:26:37.600>probably

539
00:26:39.100 --> 00:26:42.400
<00:26:39.100>we <00:26:39.449>are <00:26:39.800>very <00:26:40.149>segmented. <00:26:40.500>And

540
00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:45.700
<00:26:42.400>if <00:26:42.555>you <00:26:42.711>have <00:26:42.866>a <00:26:43.022>questions <00:26:43.177>you <00:26:43.333>go <00:26:43.488>to <00:26:43.644>a <00:26:43.800>specialist

541
00:26:45.700 --> 00:26:48.400
<00:26:45.700>and <00:26:45.875>you <00:26:46.050>find <00:26:46.225>the <00:26:46.400>answer <00:26:46.575>and <00:26:46.750>if <00:26:46.925>the <00:26:47.100>specialist

542
00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:51.400
<00:26:48.400>can <00:26:48.527>give <00:26:48.654>the <00:26:48.781>answer <00:26:48.909>right <00:26:49.036>now <00:26:49.163>it <00:26:49.290>probably <00:26:49.418>in <00:26:49.545>a <00:26:49.672>week <00:26:49.800>he

543
00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:52.100
<00:26:51.400>can <00:26:51.557>give <00:26:51.715>you <00:26:51.872>the <00:26:52.030>answer.

544
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<00:26:52.800>Or <00:26:53.033>she <00:26:53.266>and <00:26:53.500>this <00:26:53.733>is <00:26:53.966>something <00:26:54.200>if

545
00:26:55.600 --> 00:26:58.800
<00:26:55.600>you <00:26:55.755>transfer <00:26:55.911>it <00:26:56.066>to <00:26:56.222>your <00:26:56.377>smart <00:26:56.533>home <00:26:56.688>your <00:26:56.844>I <00:26:57.000>mean,

546
00:26:58.800 --> 00:27:01.400
<00:26:58.800>I'm <00:26:58.955>running <00:26:59.111>a <00:26:59.266>smart <00:26:59.422>home <00:26:59.577>by <00:26:59.733>myself, <00:26:59.888>but <00:27:00.044>I'm <00:27:00.200>not

547
00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:04.600
<00:27:01.400>a <00:27:01.575>specialist <00:27:01.750>in <00:27:01.925>every <00:27:02.100>area. <00:27:02.275>And <00:27:02.450>so <00:27:02.625>of <00:27:02.800>course

548
00:27:04.600 --> 00:27:07.400
<00:27:04.600>it's <00:27:04.879>a <00:27:05.159>bit <00:27:05.439>more <00:27:05.719>tricky <00:27:06.000>to

549
00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:10.800
<00:27:07.400>that. <00:27:07.600>And <00:27:07.800>so <00:27:08.000>the <00:27:08.200>principle <00:27:08.400>itself <00:27:08.600>is <00:27:08.800>sometimes

550
00:27:10.800 --> 00:27:13.800
<00:27:10.800>transferable <00:27:11.080>but <00:27:11.360>how <00:27:11.639>to <00:27:11.919>how <00:27:12.200>to

551
00:27:13.800 --> 00:27:16.300
<00:27:13.800>work <00:27:14.000>it <00:27:14.200>out. <00:27:14.399>This <00:27:14.600>principle <00:27:14.800>is <00:27:15.000>I <00:27:15.200>think

552
00:27:16.300 --> 00:27:17.000
<00:27:16.300>it's <00:27:16.615>quite <00:27:16.930>different.

553
00:27:18.100 --> 00:27:19.600
<00:27:18.100>And <00:27:18.437>what <00:27:18.774>we <00:27:19.112>see <00:27:19.449>here.

554
00:27:20.900 --> 00:27:24.200
<00:27:20.900>On <00:27:21.040>the <00:27:21.180>right <00:27:21.320>hand <00:27:21.460>side. <00:27:21.600>I <00:27:21.740>put <00:27:21.880>a <00:27:22.020>picture <00:27:22.160>and <00:27:22.300>they

555
00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:26.900
<00:27:23.200>are <00:27:23.375>nearly <00:27:23.550>out <00:27:23.725>of <00:27:23.900>our <00:27:24.075>system. <00:27:24.250>It's <00:27:24.425>a <00:27:24.600>very

556
00:27:26.900 --> 00:27:30.000
<00:27:26.900>real <00:27:27.180>it's <00:27:27.460>from <00:27:27.740>the <00:27:28.020>1970s. <00:27:28.300>They

557
00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:32.300
<00:27:29.200>are <00:27:29.375>safety <00:27:29.550>release. <00:27:29.725>There <00:27:29.900>is <00:27:30.075>a <00:27:30.250>modular <00:27:30.425>building <00:27:30.600>of

558
00:27:32.300 --> 00:27:35.600
<00:27:32.300>this <00:27:32.475>relays <00:27:32.649>and <00:27:32.825>they <00:27:33.000>are <00:27:33.175>safe <00:27:33.350>against <00:27:33.524>cyber <00:27:33.700>attacks.

559
00:27:35.600 --> 00:27:38.800
<00:27:35.600>So <00:27:35.800>we <00:27:36.000>have <00:27:36.199>some <00:27:36.399>of <00:27:36.600>our <00:27:36.800>old <00:27:37.000>equipment

560
00:27:38.800 --> 00:27:41.600
<00:27:38.800>there <00:27:39.080>is <00:27:39.360>no <00:27:39.639>it <00:27:39.919>connection. <00:27:40.200>There

561
00:27:41.600 --> 00:27:44.400
<00:27:41.600>is <00:27:41.800>nothing <00:27:42.000>you <00:27:42.199>can <00:27:42.399>attack. <00:27:42.600>There <00:27:42.800>are <00:27:43.000>simply

562
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:46.500
<00:27:44.400>stand <00:27:44.866>alone <00:27:45.333>working <00:27:45.800>components.

563
00:27:47.300 --> 00:27:49.200
<00:27:47.300>and <00:27:48.700>so

564
00:27:50.500 --> 00:27:53.600
<00:27:50.500>there <00:27:50.700>is <00:27:50.900>really <00:27:51.100>they <00:27:51.300>are <00:27:51.500>from <00:27:51.700>from <00:27:51.900>a

565
00:27:53.600 --> 00:27:56.200
<00:27:53.600>cyber <00:27:53.800>security <00:27:54.000>point. <00:27:54.199>We <00:27:54.399>are <00:27:54.600>quite <00:27:54.800>happy <00:27:55.000>with

566
00:27:56.200 --> 00:27:59.200
<00:27:56.200>them <00:27:56.375>when <00:27:56.550>it <00:27:56.725>comes <00:27:56.900>to <00:27:57.075>the <00:27:57.250>functional <00:27:57.425>point <00:27:57.600>that

567
00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:02.600
<00:27:59.200>they <00:27:59.433>really <00:27:59.666>do <00:27:59.900>their <00:28:00.133>protection <00:28:00.366>switches <00:28:00.600>when

568
00:28:02.600 --> 00:28:06.600
<00:28:02.600>there <00:28:02.755>is <00:28:02.911>a <00:28:03.066>failure. <00:28:03.222>This <00:28:03.377>is <00:28:03.533>of <00:28:03.688>course <00:28:03.844>the <00:28:04.000>yeah,

569
00:28:05.600 --> 00:28:08.300
<00:28:05.600>that's <00:28:05.879>the <00:28:06.159>case <00:28:06.439>why <00:28:06.719>we <00:28:07.000>change

570
00:28:08.300 --> 00:28:11.500
<00:28:08.300>them <00:28:08.427>and <00:28:08.554>if <00:28:08.681>you <00:28:08.809>go <00:28:08.936>to <00:28:09.063>a <00:28:09.190>to <00:28:09.318>a <00:28:09.445>vendor <00:28:09.572>two <00:28:09.700>days

571
00:28:11.500 --> 00:28:14.400
<00:28:11.500>to <00:28:11.733>Siemens <00:28:11.966>or <00:28:12.200>ABB <00:28:12.433>or <00:28:12.666>Hitachi, <00:28:12.900>whatever

572
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:17.800
<00:28:14.400>they <00:28:14.600>don't <00:28:14.800>see <00:28:15.000>this <00:28:15.200>kind <00:28:15.400>of <00:28:15.600>equipment <00:28:15.800>anymore.

573
00:28:19.300 --> 00:28:23.100
<00:28:19.300>And <00:28:19.440>there <00:28:19.580>is <00:28:19.720>a <00:28:19.860>third <00:28:20.000>point <00:28:20.139>we <00:28:20.280>have <00:28:20.419>here <00:28:20.560>down <00:28:20.700>which

574
00:28:22.100 --> 00:28:26.500
<00:28:22.100>I <00:28:22.333>think <00:28:22.566>is <00:28:22.800>quite <00:28:23.033>important <00:28:23.266>the <00:28:23.500>equipment

575
00:28:26.500 --> 00:28:30.600
<00:28:26.500>capabilities. <00:28:26.733>So <00:28:26.966>if <00:28:27.200>we <00:28:27.433>look <00:28:27.666>like <00:28:27.900>and

576
00:28:30.600 --> 00:28:32.600
<00:28:30.600>I <00:28:30.800>go <00:28:31.000>back <00:28:31.199>to <00:28:31.399>to <00:28:31.600>one <00:28:31.800>of <00:28:32.000>these

577
00:28:33.600 --> 00:28:36.100
<00:28:33.600>To <00:28:33.800>to <00:28:34.000>the <00:28:34.199>updated <00:28:34.399>to <00:28:34.600>really <00:28:34.800>this <00:28:35.000>one.

578
00:28:36.800 --> 00:28:39.400
<00:28:36.800>To <00:28:37.000>this <00:28:37.200>relays <00:28:37.399>we <00:28:37.600>have <00:28:37.800>here <00:28:38.000>even <00:28:38.200>if

579
00:28:39.400 --> 00:28:39.700
<00:28:39.400>they <00:28:39.670>are.

580
00:28:40.900 --> 00:28:43.100
<00:28:40.900>I <00:28:41.055>think <00:28:41.211>there <00:28:41.366>are <00:28:41.522>three <00:28:41.677>years <00:28:41.833>old. <00:28:41.988>So <00:28:42.144>they <00:28:42.300>are

581
00:28:43.100 --> 00:28:46.400
<00:28:43.100>from <00:28:43.274>from <00:28:43.449>a <00:28:43.625>20 <00:28:43.800>years <00:28:43.975>lifetime <00:28:44.149>spend <00:28:44.324>they're <00:28:44.500>up

582
00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:49.100
<00:28:46.400>to <00:28:46.575>date <00:28:46.750>and <00:28:46.925>they're <00:28:47.100>good. <00:28:47.275>And <00:28:47.450>if <00:28:47.625>you <00:28:47.800>look

583
00:28:49.100 --> 00:28:50.400
<00:28:49.100>to <00:28:49.392>these <00:28:49.685>kind <00:28:49.977>of <00:28:50.270>relays.

584
00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:53.000
<00:28:51.400>Then <00:28:51.600>this <00:28:51.800>is <00:28:52.000>what <00:28:52.200>I <00:28:52.400>write <00:28:52.600>down <00:28:52.800>here.

585
00:28:54.100 --> 00:28:57.400
<00:28:54.100>They <00:28:54.300>have <00:28:54.500>they're <00:28:54.699>from <00:28:54.899>an <00:28:55.100>IT <00:28:55.300>perspective <00:28:55.500>not

586
00:28:57.400 --> 00:28:58.100
<00:28:57.400>up <00:28:57.715>to <00:28:58.030>date.

587
00:28:58.700 --> 00:29:01.600
<00:28:58.700>So <00:28:58.980>there's <00:28:59.260>maybe <00:28:59.540>TLS <00:28:59.820>encryption <00:29:00.100>or

588
00:29:01.600 --> 00:29:05.000
<00:29:01.600>SNMP <00:29:02.066>Management <00:29:02.533>role-based <00:29:03.000>access

589
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:08.200
<00:29:04.400>is <00:29:04.750>something <00:29:05.100>these <00:29:05.450>relays <00:29:05.800>are

590
00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:09.400
<00:29:08.200>not <00:29:08.560>capable <00:29:08.920>of <00:29:09.280>that.

591
00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:13.300
<00:29:10.400>And <00:29:10.540>so <00:29:10.680>you <00:29:10.820>need <00:29:10.960>to <00:29:11.100>think <00:29:11.240>about <00:29:11.380>what <00:29:11.520>can <00:29:11.660>I <00:29:11.800>do

592
00:29:13.300 --> 00:29:17.000
<00:29:13.300>with <00:29:13.500>a <00:29:13.700>relay <00:29:13.899>which <00:29:14.100>is <00:29:14.300>three <00:29:14.500>years <00:29:14.700>three

593
00:29:16.300 --> 00:29:18.500
<00:29:16.300>years <00:29:16.533>old <00:29:16.766>when <00:29:17.000>we <00:29:17.233>bought <00:29:17.466>it, <00:29:17.700>but

594
00:29:19.900 --> 00:29:22.500
<00:29:19.900>It <00:29:20.075>was <00:29:20.250>out <00:29:20.425>in <00:29:20.600>the <00:29:20.775>market, <00:29:20.950>maybe <00:29:21.125>five <00:29:21.300>or

595
00:29:22.500 --> 00:29:26.500
<00:29:22.500>six <00:29:22.675>years <00:29:22.850>ago <00:29:23.025>and <00:29:23.200>the <00:29:23.375>design <00:29:23.550>for <00:29:23.725>these <00:29:23.900>relays

596
00:29:25.500 --> 00:29:28.400
<00:29:25.500>or <00:29:25.780>even <00:29:26.060>even <00:29:26.340>like <00:29:26.620>10 <00:29:26.900>years

597
00:29:28.400 --> 00:29:31.400
<00:29:28.400>ago <00:29:28.600>and <00:29:28.800>10 <00:29:29.000>years <00:29:29.200>ago <00:29:29.400>is <00:29:29.600>quite <00:29:29.800>a

598
00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:32.800
<00:29:31.400>long <00:29:31.715>time <00:29:32.030>for <00:29:32.345>cyber <00:29:32.659>security.

599
00:29:33.700 --> 00:29:36.200
<00:29:33.700>So <00:29:33.875>you <00:29:34.050>have <00:29:34.225>a <00:29:34.400>new <00:29:34.575>equipment <00:29:34.750>which <00:29:34.925>is <00:29:35.100>from

600
00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:39.900
<00:29:36.200>a <00:29:36.480>cyber <00:29:36.760>security <00:29:37.040>perspective <00:29:37.320>already <00:29:37.600>old-fashioned.

601
00:29:40.700 --> 00:29:43.000
<00:29:40.700>So <00:29:40.855>we <00:29:41.011>need <00:29:41.166>to <00:29:41.322>have <00:29:41.477>work <00:29:41.633>around <00:29:41.788>and <00:29:41.944>this <00:29:42.100>is

602
00:29:43.100 --> 00:29:46.200
<00:29:43.100>something <00:29:43.255>where <00:29:43.411>we <00:29:43.566>yeah, <00:29:43.722>this <00:29:43.877>is <00:29:44.033>one <00:29:44.188>of <00:29:44.344>our <00:29:44.500>main.

603
00:29:46.900 --> 00:29:49.000
<00:29:46.900>Or <00:29:47.075>one <00:29:47.250>of <00:29:47.425>the <00:29:47.600>topics. <00:29:47.775>We <00:29:47.950>are <00:29:48.125>really <00:29:48.300>looking

604
00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:49.300
into.

605
00:29:52.100 --> 00:29:53.500
<00:29:52.100>And <00:29:52.351>then <00:29:52.604>there <00:29:52.856>is <00:29:53.108>another <00:29:53.360>point.

606
00:29:54.800 --> 00:29:57.200
<00:29:54.800>I <00:29:54.975>mean <00:29:55.149>this <00:29:55.325>is <00:29:55.500>what <00:29:55.675>we <00:29:55.850>what <00:29:56.024>we <00:29:56.200>had

607
00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:00.600
<00:29:57.200>a <00:29:57.375>look <00:29:57.550>now <00:29:57.725>or <00:29:57.900>in <00:29:58.075>the <00:29:58.250>last <00:29:58.425>slides <00:29:58.600>or

608
00:30:00.600 --> 00:30:03.500
<00:30:00.600>the <00:30:00.774>more <00:30:00.949>operational <00:30:01.125>look <00:30:01.300>so <00:30:01.475>these <00:30:01.649>are <00:30:01.824>the <00:30:02.000>parts

609
00:30:03.500 --> 00:30:06.500
<00:30:03.500>at <00:30:03.700>the <00:30:03.900>svm <00:30:04.100>where <00:30:04.300>the <00:30:04.500>engineers <00:30:04.700>and <00:30:04.900>the

610
00:30:06.500 --> 00:30:09.000
<00:30:06.500>guys <00:30:06.700>which <00:30:06.900>are <00:30:07.100>very <00:30:07.300>specialized. <00:30:07.500>They <00:30:07.700>are <00:30:07.900>out

611
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:12.900
<00:30:09.200>in <00:30:09.340>the <00:30:09.480>field <00:30:09.620>and <00:30:09.760>they're <00:30:09.900>doing <00:30:10.040>maintenance <00:30:10.180>they're <00:30:10.320>doing <00:30:10.460>testing <00:30:10.600>and

612
00:30:12.900 --> 00:30:13.900
<00:30:12.900>all <00:30:13.125>this <00:30:13.350>kind <00:30:13.575>of <00:30:13.800>stuff.

613
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:16.200
<00:30:15.200>There <00:30:15.500>are <00:30:15.800>other <00:30:16.100>people.

614
00:30:17.600 --> 00:30:20.700
<00:30:17.600>Am <00:30:17.755>I <00:30:17.911>more <00:30:18.066>on <00:30:18.222>this <00:30:18.377>side <00:30:18.533>on <00:30:18.688>the <00:30:18.844>guideline <00:30:19.000>side,

615
00:30:20.700 --> 00:30:23.700
<00:30:20.700>and <00:30:21.050>we <00:30:21.400>have <00:30:21.750>really <00:30:22.100>fast

616
00:30:23.700 --> 00:30:24.900
<00:30:23.700>developing <00:30:24.780>guidelines.

617
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:32.400
<00:30:28.200>I <00:30:28.355>I <00:30:28.511>just <00:30:28.666>put <00:30:28.822>here <00:30:28.977>in <00:30:29.133>overview <00:30:29.288>of <00:30:29.444>yeah <00:30:29.600>some

618
00:30:31.400 --> 00:30:35.700
<00:30:31.400>standard <00:30:31.680>ones <00:30:31.960>like <00:30:32.240>the <00:30:32.520>iso <00:30:32.800>27,000

619
00:30:34.700 --> 00:30:37.500
<00:30:34.700>family <00:30:35.400>which <00:30:36.100>we

620
00:30:37.500 --> 00:30:40.600
<00:30:37.500>are <00:30:37.733>certified <00:30:37.966>in <00:30:38.200>Germany. <00:30:38.433>Each <00:30:38.666>critical <00:30:38.900>infrastructure

621
00:30:40.600 --> 00:30:44.100
<00:30:40.600>needs <00:30:40.800>to <00:30:41.000>be <00:30:41.199>certified <00:30:41.399>on <00:30:41.600>the <00:30:41.800>iso <00:30:42.000>27,000

622
00:30:43.100 --> 00:30:46.900
<00:30:43.100>family. <00:30:43.379>And <00:30:43.659>this <00:30:43.939>is <00:30:44.219>quite <00:30:44.500>quite

623
00:30:46.900 --> 00:30:49.400
<00:30:46.900>normal <00:30:47.180>for <00:30:47.460>us. <00:30:47.740>It's <00:30:48.020>yeah, <00:30:48.300>it

624
00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:52.700
<00:30:49.400>was <00:30:49.680>invented <00:30:49.960>roughly <00:30:50.240>about <00:30:50.520>10 <00:30:50.800>years

625
00:30:52.700 --> 00:30:55.800
<00:30:52.700>ago <00:30:52.875>or <00:30:53.050>eight <00:30:53.225>years <00:30:53.400>that <00:30:53.575>we <00:30:53.750>are <00:30:53.925>forced <00:30:54.100>to

626
00:30:55.800 --> 00:30:59.700
<00:30:55.800>do <00:30:56.033>an <00:30:56.266>audit <00:30:56.500>in <00:30:56.733>the <00:30:56.966>27,000. <00:30:57.200>There

627
00:30:59.700 --> 00:31:01.900
<00:30:59.700>is <00:31:00.050>also <00:31:00.400>the <00:31:00.750>BSI <00:31:01.100>standard.

628
00:31:02.800 --> 00:31:05.400
<00:31:02.800>They <00:31:03.080>are <00:31:03.360>including <00:31:03.639>business <00:31:03.919>continuity <00:31:04.200>management.

629
00:31:06.500 --> 00:31:09.600
<00:31:06.500>And <00:31:06.675>if <00:31:06.850>you <00:31:07.025>look <00:31:07.200>to <00:31:07.375>the <00:31:07.550>vendors <00:31:07.725>when <00:31:07.900>they

630
00:31:09.600 --> 00:31:13.000
<00:31:09.600>do <00:31:09.949>the <00:31:10.300>development <00:31:10.649>and <00:31:11.000>of

631
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:16.000
<00:31:12.200>their <00:31:12.433>relays <00:31:12.666>of <00:31:12.900>the <00:31:13.133>hardware, <00:31:13.366>they <00:31:13.600>are

632
00:31:15.100 --> 00:31:19.400
<00:31:15.100>more <00:31:15.333>focused <00:31:15.566>on <00:31:15.800>the <00:31:16.033>IEC <00:31:16.266>62 <00:31:16.500>443

633
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:23.200
<00:31:18.400>and <00:31:18.750>this <00:31:19.100>is <00:31:19.450>a <00:31:19.800>international

634
00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:25.200
<00:31:21.200>standard <00:31:21.666>for <00:31:22.133>industrial <00:31:22.600>communication

635
00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:28.000
<00:31:24.200>networks <00:31:24.480>and <00:31:24.760>network <00:31:25.040>system <00:31:25.320>security. <00:31:25.600>And

636
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:30.700
<00:31:27.200>that's <00:31:27.480>focusing <00:31:27.760>on <00:31:28.040>both. <00:31:28.320>Let's <00:31:28.600>focusing

637
00:31:30.700 --> 00:31:33.400
<00:31:30.700>on <00:31:30.933>the <00:31:31.166>on <00:31:31.400>the <00:31:31.633>system <00:31:31.866>itself, <00:31:32.100>and

638
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:36.100
<00:31:33.400>it's <00:31:33.680>focusing <00:31:33.960>on <00:31:34.240>each <00:31:34.520>single <00:31:34.800>equipment.

639
00:31:37.700 --> 00:31:40.300
<00:31:37.700>But <00:31:37.855>also <00:31:38.011>upcoming <00:31:38.166>what <00:31:38.322>now <00:31:38.477>is <00:31:38.633>a <00:31:38.788>little <00:31:38.944>bit <00:31:39.100>from

640
00:31:40.300 --> 00:31:42.100
<00:31:40.300>the <00:31:41.000>European <00:31:41.700>perspective.

641
00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:46.800
<00:31:43.400>The <00:31:43.633>radio <00:31:43.866>equipment <00:31:44.100>director <00:31:44.333>for <00:31:44.566>now <00:31:44.800>the

642
00:31:46.800 --> 00:31:49.200
<00:31:46.800>nice <00:31:47.149>two <00:31:47.500>directive. <00:31:47.850>They <00:31:48.200>are

643
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:53.800
<00:31:49.200>really <00:31:49.480>driven <00:31:49.760>from <00:31:50.040>Brussels <00:31:50.320>and <00:31:50.600>the

644
00:31:52.800 --> 00:31:55.600
<00:31:52.800>CE <00:31:53.266>are <00:31:53.733>directive <00:31:54.200>the

645
00:31:55.600 --> 00:31:57.700
<00:31:55.600>resilience <00:31:56.066>of <00:31:56.533>electrical <00:31:57.000>entities.

646
00:31:58.600 --> 00:32:01.700
<00:31:58.600>And <00:31:58.879>in <00:31:59.159>Germany <00:31:59.439>we <00:31:59.719>are <00:32:00.000>right

647
00:32:01.700 --> 00:32:03.100
<00:32:01.700>now <00:32:02.330>from <00:32:02.960>yeah.

648
00:32:03.900 --> 00:32:05.800
<00:32:03.900>Today <00:32:04.133>or <00:32:04.366>tomorrow? <00:32:04.600>We <00:32:04.833>will <00:32:05.066>have <00:32:05.300>to

649
00:32:06.800 --> 00:32:10.000
<00:32:06.800>feed <00:32:07.033>back <00:32:07.266>to <00:32:07.500>our <00:32:07.733>national <00:32:07.966>Authority <00:32:08.200>that

650
00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:12.800
<00:32:09.200>we <00:32:09.550>are <00:32:09.900>ready <00:32:10.250>to <00:32:10.600>fulfill

651
00:32:12.800 --> 00:32:16.000
<00:32:12.800>the <00:32:13.033>basic <00:32:13.266>standards <00:32:13.500>of <00:32:13.733>the <00:32:13.966>itcia <00:32:14.200>heights

652
00:32:15.600 --> 00:32:19.200
<00:32:15.600>gazette's <00:32:15.949>2.0. <00:32:16.300>So <00:32:16.649>it's <00:32:17.000>a

653
00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:21.900
<00:32:18.200>new <00:32:18.666>national <00:32:19.133>law <00:32:19.600>which

654
00:32:21.900 --> 00:32:24.200
<00:32:21.900>we <00:32:22.100>need <00:32:22.300>to <00:32:22.500>fulfill <00:32:22.700>and <00:32:22.900>this <00:32:23.100>tells <00:32:23.300>us

655
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:25.900
<00:32:24.200>basically <00:32:24.550>that <00:32:24.900>we <00:32:25.250>have <00:32:25.600>to

656
00:32:26.900 --> 00:32:30.100
<00:32:26.900>Have <00:32:27.180>certain <00:32:27.460>capabilities <00:32:27.740>in <00:32:28.020>detecting <00:32:28.300>a

657
00:32:29.100 --> 00:32:33.900
<00:32:29.100>cyber <00:32:29.300>act <00:32:29.500>and <00:32:29.699>we <00:32:29.899>have <00:32:30.100>people <00:32:30.300>looking <00:32:30.500>to

658
00:32:33.900 --> 00:32:36.400
<00:32:33.900>the <00:32:34.366>different <00:32:34.833>log <00:32:35.300>files

659
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:39.300
<00:32:36.400>and <00:32:36.575>so <00:32:36.750>on <00:32:36.925>so <00:32:37.100>there <00:32:37.275>and <00:32:37.450>and <00:32:37.625>the <00:32:37.800>deadline

660
00:32:39.300 --> 00:32:42.100
<00:32:39.300>is <00:32:39.427>end <00:32:39.554>of <00:32:39.681>May. <00:32:39.809>So <00:32:39.936>we <00:32:40.063>need <00:32:40.190>end <00:32:40.318>of <00:32:40.445>April. <00:32:40.572>So <00:32:40.700>we

661
00:32:42.100 --> 00:32:45.900
<00:32:42.100>need <00:32:42.207>first <00:32:42.315>of <00:32:42.423>May. <00:32:42.530>We <00:32:42.638>need <00:32:42.746>to <00:32:42.853>feed <00:32:42.961>back <00:32:43.069>to <00:32:43.176>our <00:32:43.284>national <00:32:43.392>Authority. <00:32:43.500>Yes.

662
00:32:45.900 --> 00:32:47.300
<00:32:45.900>We <00:32:46.320>we <00:32:46.740>are <00:32:47.159>up.

663
00:32:48.600 --> 00:32:51.600
<00:32:48.600>It <00:32:48.774>was <00:32:48.949>last <00:32:49.125>half <00:32:49.300>a <00:32:49.475>year <00:32:49.649>was <00:32:49.824>quite <00:32:50.000>yeah

664
00:32:51.600 --> 00:32:52.500
<00:32:51.600>quite <00:32:52.410>challenging.

665
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:56.400
<00:32:53.400>And <00:32:53.575>then <00:32:53.750>what <00:32:53.925>is <00:32:54.100>also <00:32:54.275>upcoming <00:32:54.450>the <00:32:54.625>Cyber <00:32:54.800>resilience

666
00:32:56.400 --> 00:32:56.700
Act?

667
00:32:57.600 --> 00:33:00.500
<00:32:57.600>Which <00:32:57.879>is <00:32:58.159>more <00:32:58.439>it's <00:32:58.719>a <00:32:59.000>broader.

668
00:33:01.100 --> 00:33:04.300
<00:33:01.100>It's <00:33:01.255>a <00:33:01.411>real <00:33:01.566>broader <00:33:01.722>view <00:33:01.877>on <00:33:02.033>that <00:33:02.188>you <00:33:02.344>might <00:33:02.500>have

669
00:33:04.300 --> 00:33:07.600
<00:33:04.300>heard <00:33:04.500>it <00:33:04.700>for <00:33:04.899>for <00:33:05.100>updates <00:33:05.300>of <00:33:05.500>mobile <00:33:05.700>phones

670
00:33:07.600 --> 00:33:08.400
<00:33:07.600>and <00:33:07.840>things <00:33:08.080>like <00:33:08.320>that.

671
00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:12.800
<00:33:09.400>And <00:33:09.555>which <00:33:09.711>is <00:33:09.866>also <00:33:10.022>upcoming <00:33:10.177>where <00:33:10.333>I'm <00:33:10.488>working <00:33:10.644>in <00:33:10.800>the

672
00:33:12.800 --> 00:33:15.700
<00:33:12.800>Brussels <00:33:13.033>in <00:33:13.266>the <00:33:13.500>expert <00:33:13.733>group <00:33:13.966>is <00:33:14.200>the

673
00:33:15.700 --> 00:33:19.300
<00:33:15.700>network <00:33:15.900>code <00:33:16.100>and <00:33:16.300>electricity <00:33:16.500>cyber <00:33:16.700>security <00:33:16.900>the <00:33:17.100>nccs

674
00:33:18.300 --> 00:33:21.400
<00:33:18.300>and <00:33:18.649>this <00:33:19.000>code <00:33:19.350>is <00:33:19.700>basically

675
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:25.300
<00:33:21.400>focusing <00:33:21.866>on <00:33:22.333>the <00:33:22.800>risk

676
00:33:25.300 --> 00:33:25.400
of

677
00:33:26.900 --> 00:33:30.600
<00:33:26.900>having <00:33:27.250>an <00:33:27.600>electricity <00:33:27.950>failure <00:33:28.300>in

678
00:33:30.600 --> 00:33:33.100
<00:33:30.600>between <00:33:30.800>countries. <00:33:31.000>So <00:33:31.199>it's <00:33:31.399>focusing <00:33:31.600>on <00:33:31.800>a <00:33:32.000>very

679
00:33:33.100 --> 00:33:36.800
<00:33:33.100>high <00:33:33.274>level <00:33:33.449>which <00:33:33.625>minimum <00:33:33.800>standard <00:33:33.975>needs <00:33:34.149>to <00:33:34.324>be <00:33:34.500>achieved

680
00:33:36.800 --> 00:33:40.600
<00:33:36.800>that <00:33:37.033>you <00:33:37.266>don't <00:33:37.500>have <00:33:37.733>a <00:33:37.966>blackout <00:33:38.200>through

681
00:33:40.600 --> 00:33:42.200
<00:33:40.600>more <00:33:41.066>than <00:33:41.533>one <00:33:42.000>country.

682
00:33:43.800 --> 00:33:46.600
<00:33:43.800>And <00:33:43.975>this <00:33:44.149>is <00:33:44.325>what <00:33:44.500>you <00:33:44.675>see <00:33:44.850>it's <00:33:45.024>the <00:33:45.200>number

683
00:33:46.600 --> 00:33:49.500
<00:33:46.600>of <00:33:46.800>this <00:33:47.000>directives <00:33:47.199>and <00:33:47.399>guidelines. <00:33:47.600>It's <00:33:47.800>very <00:33:48.000>fast

684
00:33:49.500 --> 00:33:53.100
<00:33:49.500>developing <00:33:49.700>because <00:33:49.900>a <00:33:50.100>lot <00:33:50.300>of <00:33:50.500>the <00:33:50.700>national <00:33:50.900>authorities

685
00:33:52.100 --> 00:33:55.300
<00:33:52.100>the <00:33:52.449>Brussels <00:33:52.800>authorities. <00:33:53.149>They <00:33:53.500>already

686
00:33:55.300 --> 00:33:57.600
<00:33:55.300>saw <00:33:55.533>that <00:33:55.766>there <00:33:56.000>is <00:33:56.233>a <00:33:56.466>real <00:33:56.700>risk.

687
00:33:58.600 --> 00:34:01.700
<00:33:58.600>And <00:33:58.833>for <00:33:59.066>us <00:33:59.300>it's <00:33:59.533>yeah <00:33:59.766>to <00:34:00.000>fulfill

688
00:34:01.700 --> 00:34:05.500
<00:34:01.700>all <00:34:02.050>this <00:34:02.400>standards <00:34:02.750>directives <00:34:03.100>that

689
00:34:04.500 --> 00:34:08.200
<00:34:04.500>that's <00:34:04.850>quite <00:34:05.200>challenging. <00:34:05.550>Also. <00:34:05.900>This

690
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:10.300
<00:34:07.200>is <00:34:07.433>why <00:34:07.666>also <00:34:07.900>our <00:34:08.133>world <00:34:08.366>is <00:34:08.600>yeah.

691
00:34:10.300 --> 00:34:13.300
<00:34:10.300>It's <00:34:10.650>fast <00:34:11.000>developing <00:34:11.350>also <00:34:11.700>on

692
00:34:13.300 --> 00:34:14.200
<00:34:13.300>the <00:34:13.705>company <00:34:14.109>side.

693
00:34:16.900 --> 00:34:20.200
<00:34:16.900>One, <00:34:17.133>okay. <00:34:17.366>I <00:34:17.600>saw <00:34:17.833>here <00:34:18.066>one <00:34:18.300>question

694
00:34:19.200 --> 00:34:22.400
<00:34:19.199>from <00:34:19.480>darmia. <00:34:19.759>What <00:34:20.040>is <00:34:20.319>the <00:34:20.600>best

695
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:26.100
<00:34:22.400>security <00:34:22.750>protocol <00:34:23.100>today <00:34:23.450>in <00:34:23.800>your

696
00:34:25.100 --> 00:34:27.200
<00:34:25.100>opinion? <00:34:25.799>And <00:34:26.500>why?

697
00:34:28.500 --> 00:34:30.600
<00:34:28.500>Why <00:34:28.655>I <00:34:28.811>would <00:34:28.966>put <00:34:29.122>this <00:34:29.277>question <00:34:29.433>in <00:34:29.588>a <00:34:29.744>parking <00:34:29.900>lot.

698
00:34:33.300 --> 00:34:36.300
<00:34:33.300>And <00:34:33.500>and <00:34:33.700>answer <00:34:33.900>it <00:34:34.100>later. <00:34:34.300>There <00:34:34.500>is <00:34:34.700>also

699
00:34:36.300 --> 00:34:39.000
<00:34:36.300>another <00:34:36.440>question. <00:34:36.580>How <00:34:36.720>safe <00:34:36.860>is <00:34:37.000>Germany <00:34:37.140>compared <00:34:37.280>to <00:34:37.420>the <00:34:37.560>rest <00:34:37.700>of

700
00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:39.400
Europe?

701
00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:44.300
<00:34:41.400>I <00:34:41.516>would <00:34:41.633>put <00:34:41.750>this <00:34:41.866>also <00:34:41.983>to <00:34:42.100>a <00:34:42.216>parking <00:34:42.333>lot <00:34:42.450>because <00:34:42.566>I <00:34:42.683>have <00:34:42.800>one

702
00:34:44.300 --> 00:34:45.000
<00:34:44.300>of <00:34:44.615>the <00:34:44.929>question.

703
00:34:47.300 --> 00:34:50.400
<00:34:47.300>You <00:34:47.440>can't <00:34:47.580>have <00:34:47.720>a <00:34:47.860>certain <00:34:48.000>discussion <00:34:48.140>on <00:34:48.280>that <00:34:48.420>but <00:34:48.560>both <00:34:48.700>questions

704
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:52.800
<00:34:50.400>are <00:34:50.575>noticed. <00:34:50.750>We <00:34:50.925>will <00:34:51.100>come <00:34:51.275>up <00:34:51.450>to <00:34:51.625>them. <00:34:51.800>Later.

705
00:34:55.600 --> 00:34:58.500
<00:34:55.600>And <00:34:55.799>there <00:34:56.000>is <00:34:56.199>something <00:34:56.400>I <00:34:56.600>mean <00:34:56.799>now <00:34:57.000>it's

706
00:34:58.500 --> 00:35:01.900
<00:34:58.500>the <00:34:58.675>hard <00:34:58.850>part <00:34:59.025>of <00:34:59.200>the <00:34:59.375>of <00:34:59.550>the <00:34:59.725>slides <00:34:59.900>you

707
00:35:01.900 --> 00:35:04.700
<00:35:01.900>saw <00:35:02.007>a <00:35:02.115>lot <00:35:02.223>of <00:35:02.330>pictures <00:35:02.438>and <00:35:02.546>how <00:35:02.653>there's <00:35:02.761>a <00:35:02.869>lot <00:35:02.976>of <00:35:03.084>text <00:35:03.192>and <00:35:03.300>I

708
00:35:04.700 --> 00:35:07.200
<00:35:04.700>can <00:35:04.933>realize <00:35:05.166>there <00:35:05.399>is <00:35:05.633>always <00:35:05.866>two <00:35:06.100>sides

709
00:35:07.200 --> 00:35:07.600
<00:35:07.200>of <00:35:07.379>a <00:35:07.560>coin.

710
00:35:10.100 --> 00:35:13.500
<00:35:10.100>So <00:35:10.255>the <00:35:10.411>critics <00:35:10.566>companies <00:35:10.722>are <00:35:10.877>not <00:35:11.033>developing <00:35:11.188>the <00:35:11.344>products <00:35:11.500>they

711
00:35:13.500 --> 00:35:17.100
<00:35:13.500>use <00:35:13.675>them. <00:35:13.850>So <00:35:14.025>this <00:35:14.200>is <00:35:14.375>something <00:35:14.550>what <00:35:14.725>is <00:35:14.900>very

712
00:35:16.100 --> 00:35:19.700
<00:35:16.100>vital <00:35:16.450>for <00:35:16.799>us. <00:35:17.150>If <00:35:17.500>somebody

713
00:35:19.700 --> 00:35:22.800
<00:35:19.700>says <00:35:19.933>I <00:35:20.166>want <00:35:20.399>to <00:35:20.633>directly <00:35:20.866>be <00:35:21.100>the

714
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:25.200
<00:35:22.800>person <00:35:23.000>developing <00:35:23.200>the <00:35:23.400>code <00:35:23.600>in <00:35:23.800>one <00:35:24.000>of <00:35:24.200>the

715
00:35:25.200 --> 00:35:27.800
<00:35:25.200>safety <00:35:25.399>relays <00:35:25.600>or <00:35:25.799>in <00:35:26.000>Escada <00:35:26.200>system <00:35:26.399>or <00:35:26.600>whatever.

716
00:35:28.700 --> 00:35:31.700
<00:35:28.700>We <00:35:28.855>are <00:35:29.011>the <00:35:29.166>one <00:35:29.322>we <00:35:29.477>are <00:35:29.633>like <00:35:29.788>a <00:35:29.944>system <00:35:30.100>integrator.

717
00:35:31.700 --> 00:35:34.100
<00:35:31.700>We're <00:35:31.933>buying <00:35:32.166>this <00:35:32.399>product. <00:35:32.633>We <00:35:32.866>take <00:35:33.100>care

718
00:35:34.100 --> 00:35:37.100
<00:35:34.100>that <00:35:34.240>they <00:35:34.380>fit <00:35:34.520>to <00:35:34.660>each <00:35:34.799>other <00:35:34.940>and <00:35:35.080>we <00:35:35.220>want <00:35:35.360>to <00:35:35.500>make

719
00:35:37.100 --> 00:35:37.800
<00:35:37.100>the <00:35:37.310>use <00:35:37.520>of <00:35:37.730>them.

720
00:35:39.100 --> 00:35:42.500
<00:35:39.100>What <00:35:39.216>is <00:35:39.333>important <00:35:39.450>for <00:35:39.566>us? <00:35:39.683>We <00:35:39.799>want <00:35:39.916>to <00:35:40.033>understand <00:35:40.150>the <00:35:40.266>products <00:35:40.383>we <00:35:40.500>purchase

721
00:35:42.500 --> 00:35:43.300
<00:35:42.500>in <00:35:43.220>operate.

722
00:35:45.200 --> 00:35:48.200
<00:35:45.200>And <00:35:45.327>this <00:35:45.454>is <00:35:45.581>what <00:35:45.709>I <00:35:45.836>said. <00:35:45.963>We <00:35:46.090>are <00:35:46.218>in <00:35:46.345>charge <00:35:46.472>to <00:35:46.600>get

723
00:35:48.200 --> 00:35:51.200
<00:35:48.200>all <00:35:48.355>the <00:35:48.511>different <00:35:48.666>products <00:35:48.822>from <00:35:48.977>the <00:35:49.133>different <00:35:49.288>manufacturers <00:35:49.444>work <00:35:49.600>together.

724
00:35:52.300 --> 00:35:55.100
<00:35:52.300>So <00:35:52.455>and <00:35:52.611>and <00:35:52.766>to <00:35:52.922>really <00:35:53.077>ensure <00:35:53.233>that <00:35:53.388>they <00:35:53.544>work <00:35:53.700>together.

725
00:35:55.100 --> 00:35:58.600
<00:35:55.100>You <00:35:55.255>need <00:35:55.411>to <00:35:55.566>understand <00:35:55.722>the <00:35:55.877>project <00:35:56.033>the <00:35:56.188>product <00:35:56.344>you <00:35:56.500>you

726
00:35:58.600 --> 00:36:01.700
<00:35:58.600>buy <00:35:58.880>that <00:35:59.160>you <00:35:59.440>really <00:35:59.720>understand. <00:36:00.000>Where

727
00:36:01.700 --> 00:36:04.400
<00:36:01.700>is <00:36:01.980>yeah, <00:36:02.259>the <00:36:02.540>nitty <00:36:02.819>details <00:36:03.100>where

728
00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:06.100
<00:36:04.400>things <00:36:04.600>are <00:36:04.800>going <00:36:05.000>well <00:36:05.200>or <00:36:05.400>not <00:36:05.600>going <00:36:05.800>well.

729
00:36:07.200 --> 00:36:10.500
<00:36:07.200>And <00:36:07.327>and <00:36:07.454>this <00:36:07.581>is <00:36:07.709>what <00:36:07.836>I <00:36:07.963>would <00:36:08.090>describe <00:36:08.218>as <00:36:08.345>a <00:36:08.472>system <00:36:08.600>integrator.

730
00:36:11.500 --> 00:36:14.200
<00:36:11.500>And <00:36:11.733>of <00:36:11.966>course <00:36:12.200>when <00:36:12.433>a <00:36:12.666>failure <00:36:12.900>happens,

731
00:36:14.200 --> 00:36:17.200
<00:36:14.200>I <00:36:14.355>like <00:36:14.511>you <00:36:14.666>want <00:36:14.822>to <00:36:14.977>dive <00:36:15.133>down <00:36:15.288>to <00:36:15.444>the <00:36:15.600>root

732
00:36:17.200 --> 00:36:20.500
<00:36:17.200>cause <00:36:17.355>we <00:36:17.511>want <00:36:17.666>to <00:36:17.822>really <00:36:17.977>know <00:36:18.133>why <00:36:18.288>a <00:36:18.444>failure <00:36:18.600>did

733
00:36:20.500 --> 00:36:23.100
<00:36:20.500>happened <00:36:20.700>because <00:36:20.900>we <00:36:21.100>want <00:36:21.300>to <00:36:21.500>avoid <00:36:21.700>a <00:36:21.900>second

734
00:36:23.100 --> 00:36:26.800
<00:36:23.100>failure <00:36:23.299>cost <00:36:23.500>by <00:36:23.700>the <00:36:23.900>same <00:36:24.100>weakness. <00:36:24.299>And <00:36:24.500>and

735
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:27.600
<00:36:26.800>the <00:36:27.040>good <00:36:27.280>thing <00:36:27.520>is

736
00:36:29.500 --> 00:36:32.900
<00:36:29.500>I <00:36:29.655>wrote <00:36:29.811>it <00:36:29.966>down <00:36:30.122>in <00:36:30.277>the <00:36:30.433>last <00:36:30.588>line. <00:36:30.744>Most <00:36:30.900>of

737
00:36:32.900 --> 00:36:36.700
<00:36:32.900>us <00:36:33.075>are <00:36:33.250>on <00:36:33.425>on <00:36:33.600>a <00:36:33.775>rotating <00:36:33.950>on <00:36:34.125>call <00:36:34.300>duty.

738
00:36:36.700 --> 00:36:39.600
<00:36:36.700>So <00:36:36.933>if <00:36:37.166>it's <00:36:37.399>like <00:36:37.633>Saturday <00:36:37.866>night <00:36:38.100>11

739
00:36:39.600 --> 00:36:42.800
<00:36:39.600>o'clock <00:36:39.775>in <00:36:39.950>the <00:36:40.125>in <00:36:40.299>the <00:36:40.475>night <00:36:40.650>and <00:36:40.825>you <00:36:41.000>you

740
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:45.100
<00:36:42.800>get <00:36:43.000>the <00:36:43.200>phone <00:36:43.400>call <00:36:43.600>and <00:36:43.800>okay, <00:36:44.000>we <00:36:44.200>are

741
00:36:45.100 --> 00:36:48.200
<00:36:45.100>out <00:36:45.240>of <00:36:45.380>service <00:36:45.520>because <00:36:45.660>of <00:36:45.799>this <00:36:45.940>and <00:36:46.080>that <00:36:46.220>company <00:36:46.360>and <00:36:46.500>is

742
00:36:48.200 --> 00:36:48.800
<00:36:48.200>not <00:36:48.740>working.

743
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:50.100
then

744
00:36:51.300 --> 00:36:54.300
<00:36:51.300>You <00:36:51.407>have <00:36:51.515>to <00:36:51.623>go <00:36:51.730>there <00:36:51.838>you <00:36:51.946>have <00:36:52.053>to <00:36:52.161>fix <00:36:52.269>it. <00:36:52.376>You <00:36:52.484>have <00:36:52.592>to <00:36:52.700>call

745
00:36:54.300 --> 00:36:57.300
<00:36:54.300>your <00:36:54.440>colleagues <00:36:54.580>you <00:36:54.720>have <00:36:54.860>to <00:36:55.000>do <00:36:55.140>whatever <00:36:55.280>is <00:36:55.420>necessary. <00:36:55.560>You <00:36:55.700>have

746
00:36:57.300 --> 00:36:58.400
<00:36:57.300>to <00:36:57.630>call <00:36:57.960>the <00:36:58.290>vendor.

747
00:36:59.200 --> 00:37:01.600
<00:36:59.200>And <00:36:59.355>if <00:36:59.511>this <00:36:59.666>happens <00:36:59.822>the <00:36:59.977>first <00:37:00.133>time <00:37:00.288>you <00:37:00.444>say, <00:37:00.600>okay.

748
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:05.500
<00:37:02.400>But <00:37:02.540>you're <00:37:02.680>pretty <00:37:02.820>sure <00:37:02.960>you <00:37:03.100>don't <00:37:03.240>want <00:37:03.380>to <00:37:03.520>have <00:37:03.660>this <00:37:03.800>a

749
00:37:05.500 --> 00:37:08.400
<00:37:05.500>second <00:37:05.780>time <00:37:06.060>that <00:37:06.340>you're <00:37:06.620>sometime <00:37:06.900>in

750
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:09.900
<00:37:08.400>the <00:37:08.850>night <00:37:09.300>maybe <00:37:09.750>also.

751
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:14.100
<00:37:10.800>If <00:37:10.955>it's <00:37:11.111>really <00:37:11.266>a <00:37:11.422>bad <00:37:11.577>day, <00:37:11.733>then <00:37:11.888>it's <00:37:12.044>on <00:37:12.200>holidays

752
00:37:13.100 --> 00:37:17.600
<00:37:13.100>with <00:37:13.450>like <00:37:13.799>like <00:37:14.150>Christmas <00:37:14.500>or

753
00:37:17.600 --> 00:37:18.100
<00:37:17.600>something <00:37:17.825>like <00:37:18.049>that.

754
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:21.300
<00:37:18.800>And <00:37:19.000>this <00:37:19.200>is <00:37:19.400>of <00:37:19.600>course <00:37:19.800>people <00:37:20.000>want <00:37:20.200>to

755
00:37:21.300 --> 00:37:24.200
<00:37:21.300>avoid <00:37:21.440>this <00:37:21.580>and <00:37:21.720>we <00:37:21.860>also <00:37:22.000>want <00:37:22.140>to <00:37:22.280>avoid <00:37:22.420>it <00:37:22.560>from <00:37:22.700>a

756
00:37:24.200 --> 00:37:27.800
<00:37:24.200>company <00:37:24.327>point <00:37:24.454>of <00:37:24.581>view. <00:37:24.709>So <00:37:24.836>if <00:37:24.963>you <00:37:25.090>really <00:37:25.218>have <00:37:25.345>a <00:37:25.472>severe <00:37:25.600>failure,

757
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:30.600
<00:37:27.800>we <00:37:28.000>want <00:37:28.200>to <00:37:28.400>know <00:37:28.600>what <00:37:28.800>happened. <00:37:29.000>Why <00:37:29.200>did

758
00:37:30.600 --> 00:37:33.500
<00:37:30.600>it <00:37:30.775>happen <00:37:30.950>how <00:37:31.125>we <00:37:31.299>can <00:37:31.475>fix <00:37:31.650>it. <00:37:31.825>Do <00:37:32.000>we

759
00:37:33.500 --> 00:37:35.400
<00:37:33.500>have <00:37:33.675>to <00:37:33.850>do <00:37:34.025>something <00:37:34.200>in <00:37:34.375>the <00:37:34.550>rest <00:37:34.725>of <00:37:34.900>our

760
00:37:36.100 --> 00:37:37.500
<00:37:36.100>electrical <00:37:37.360>system

761
00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:41.200
Yeah.

762
00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:45.400
<00:37:42.800>Now <00:37:43.000>it's <00:37:43.200>a <00:37:43.400>little <00:37:43.600>bit <00:37:43.800>better <00:37:44.000>pictures <00:37:44.200>are

763
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:45.500
back.

764
00:37:47.100 --> 00:37:50.800
<00:37:47.100>There <00:37:47.333>is <00:37:47.566>a <00:37:47.799>special <00:37:48.033>relationship <00:37:48.266>between <00:37:48.500>the

765
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:52.400
<00:37:50.800>vendors <00:37:51.500>and <00:37:52.200>the

766
00:37:53.700 --> 00:37:55.200
<00:37:53.700>and <00:37:53.970>and <00:37:54.240>us <00:37:54.509>as <00:37:54.779>a <00:37:55.049>customer.

767
00:37:56.300 --> 00:37:59.100
<00:37:56.300>if <00:37:56.455>we <00:37:56.611>like <00:37:56.766>to <00:37:56.922>vendors <00:37:57.077>like <00:37:57.233>like <00:37:57.388>Siemens <00:37:57.544>or <00:37:57.700>if

768
00:37:59.100 --> 00:38:00.900
<00:37:59.100>you <00:37:59.380>look <00:37:59.660>to <00:37:59.940>vendors <00:38:00.220>like <00:38:00.500>ABB

769
00:38:01.700 --> 00:38:02.100
then

770
00:38:03.500 --> 00:38:06.100
<00:38:03.500>we <00:38:03.733>try <00:38:03.966>to <00:38:04.200>keep <00:38:04.433>a <00:38:04.666>close <00:38:04.900>relationship.

771
00:38:07.100 --> 00:38:11.100
<00:38:07.100>And <00:38:07.227>this <00:38:07.354>is <00:38:07.481>where <00:38:07.609>we <00:38:07.736>say <00:38:07.863>in <00:38:07.990>honesty <00:38:08.118>we <00:38:08.245>trust <00:38:08.372>or <00:38:08.500>this

772
00:38:10.100 --> 00:38:12.000
<00:38:10.100>is <00:38:10.566>vital <00:38:11.033>for <00:38:11.500>us.

773
00:38:13.200 --> 00:38:16.900
<00:38:13.200>Because <00:38:13.339>as <00:38:13.480>we <00:38:13.620>saw <00:38:13.759>in <00:38:13.899>the <00:38:14.040>beginning <00:38:14.180>of <00:38:14.319>the <00:38:14.460>slides <00:38:14.600>Money

774
00:38:16.900 --> 00:38:19.500
<00:38:16.900>Can't <00:38:17.133>recover <00:38:17.366>the <00:38:17.600>result <00:38:17.833>of <00:38:18.066>a <00:38:18.300>battery

775
00:38:19.500 --> 00:38:22.900
<00:38:19.500>Livery <00:38:19.675>if <00:38:19.850>we <00:38:20.025>are <00:38:20.200>half <00:38:20.375>a <00:38:20.550>day <00:38:20.725>out <00:38:20.900>of

776
00:38:22.900 --> 00:38:25.400
<00:38:22.900>service <00:38:23.180>then <00:38:23.460>it's <00:38:23.740>a <00:38:24.020>huge <00:38:24.300>problem

777
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:26.300
<00:38:25.400>for <00:38:25.805>the <00:38:26.210>town.

778
00:38:27.200 --> 00:38:29.500
<00:38:27.200>And <00:38:27.433>this <00:38:27.666>cannot <00:38:27.899>be <00:38:28.133>recovered <00:38:28.366>by <00:38:28.600>money.

779
00:38:30.200 --> 00:38:33.500
<00:38:30.200>And <00:38:30.375>what <00:38:30.549>sometimes <00:38:30.725>happen <00:38:30.899>if <00:38:31.075>you <00:38:31.250>go <00:38:31.424>to <00:38:31.600>a

780
00:38:33.500 --> 00:38:35.400
<00:38:33.500>vendor <00:38:33.700>and <00:38:33.900>you <00:38:34.100>say <00:38:34.300>I <00:38:34.500>have <00:38:34.700>a <00:38:34.900>problem?

781
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:40.100
<00:38:36.800>Maybe <00:38:36.975>some <00:38:37.150>of <00:38:37.325>you <00:38:37.500>saw <00:38:37.675>the <00:38:37.850>latest <00:38:38.025>AMD <00:38:38.200>CPU

782
00:38:39.100 --> 00:38:41.600
<00:38:39.100>problems <00:38:39.566>will <00:38:40.033>be <00:38:40.500>overheating.

783
00:38:42.600 --> 00:38:46.800
<00:38:42.600>You <00:38:42.727>go <00:38:42.854>to <00:38:42.981>a <00:38:43.109>vendor <00:38:43.236>and <00:38:43.363>say <00:38:43.490>okay. <00:38:43.618>There's <00:38:43.745>a <00:38:43.872>problem <00:38:44.000>typical

784
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:49.700
<00:38:45.800>reaction <00:38:46.150>of <00:38:46.500>a <00:38:46.850>average <00:38:47.200>vendor

785
00:38:49.700 --> 00:38:52.700
<00:38:49.700>is <00:38:49.899>no <00:38:50.100>no, <00:38:50.299>you're <00:38:50.500>the <00:38:50.700>first <00:38:50.899>customer <00:38:51.100>reporting

786
00:38:52.700 --> 00:38:56.400
<00:38:52.700>this <00:38:52.899>we <00:38:53.100>never <00:38:53.299>saw <00:38:53.500>this <00:38:53.700>problem. <00:38:53.899>We <00:38:54.100>can't

787
00:38:55.400 --> 00:38:58.500
<00:38:55.400>explain <00:38:55.680>why <00:38:55.960>it <00:38:56.240>happened. <00:38:56.520>It <00:38:56.800>must

788
00:38:58.500 --> 00:39:01.000
<00:38:58.500>be <00:38:58.733>a <00:38:58.966>single <00:38:59.200>failure <00:38:59.433>on <00:38:59.666>your <00:38:59.900>side.

789
00:39:02.200 --> 00:39:04.300
<00:39:02.200>And <00:39:02.433>if <00:39:02.666>this <00:39:02.899>is <00:39:03.133>not <00:39:03.366>the <00:39:03.600>truth.

790
00:39:05.300 --> 00:39:07.700
<00:39:05.300>Then <00:39:05.580>if <00:39:05.860>I'm <00:39:06.140>a <00:39:06.420>private <00:39:06.700>customer.

791
00:39:08.900 --> 00:39:09.600
<00:39:08.900>So <00:39:09.529>yeah.

792
00:39:10.900 --> 00:39:14.200
<00:39:10.900>It's <00:39:11.133>not <00:39:11.366>good, <00:39:11.600>but <00:39:11.833>this <00:39:12.066>not <00:39:12.300>the

793
00:39:13.200 --> 00:39:16.400
<00:39:13.200>same <00:39:13.480>consequence. <00:39:13.759>We <00:39:14.040>as <00:39:14.319>a <00:39:14.600>company

794
00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:19.100
<00:39:16.400>serving <00:39:16.680>a <00:39:16.960>critical <00:39:17.240>infrastructure. <00:39:17.520>We <00:39:17.800>have

795
00:39:19.100 --> 00:39:22.400
<00:39:19.100>a <00:39:19.255>problem <00:39:19.411>with <00:39:19.566>this <00:39:19.722>kind <00:39:19.877>of <00:39:20.033>a <00:39:20.188>vendor <00:39:20.344>behaves <00:39:20.500>in

796
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:24.400
<00:39:22.400>this <00:39:22.680>kind <00:39:22.960>then <00:39:23.240>we <00:39:23.520>are <00:39:23.800>really

797
00:39:25.100 --> 00:39:28.500
<00:39:25.100>Yeah, <00:39:25.240>then <00:39:25.380>we're <00:39:25.520>really <00:39:25.660>upset. <00:39:25.799>We <00:39:25.940>are <00:39:26.080>getting <00:39:26.220>really <00:39:26.360>angry <00:39:26.500>about

798
00:39:28.500 --> 00:39:32.000
<00:39:28.500>that. <00:39:28.675>So <00:39:28.850>we <00:39:29.025>want <00:39:29.200>to <00:39:29.375>have <00:39:29.550>a <00:39:29.725>real <00:39:29.900>relationship.

799
00:39:31.900 --> 00:39:34.400
<00:39:31.900>So <00:39:32.366>if <00:39:32.833>something <00:39:33.300>happens,

800
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:39.000
<00:39:34.400>we <00:39:34.600>want <00:39:34.800>to <00:39:35.000>have <00:39:35.200>an <00:39:35.400>open <00:39:35.600>X <00:39:35.800>exchange

801
00:39:37.900 --> 00:39:40.400
<00:39:37.900>with <00:39:38.600>the <00:39:39.300>vendor.

802
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:43.700
<00:39:40.400>Are <00:39:40.575>we <00:39:40.750>the <00:39:40.925>first <00:39:41.100>does <00:39:41.275>it <00:39:41.450>happen <00:39:41.625>more <00:39:41.800>often?

803
00:39:43.700 --> 00:39:46.600
<00:39:43.700>What <00:39:43.875>do <00:39:44.049>we <00:39:44.225>do <00:39:44.399>against <00:39:44.575>this <00:39:44.750>and <00:39:44.924>things <00:39:45.100>like

804
00:39:46.600 --> 00:39:50.100
<00:39:46.600>that? <00:39:46.833>This <00:39:47.066>is <00:39:47.299>where <00:39:47.533>we <00:39:47.766>probably <00:39:48.000>the

805
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:54.700
<00:39:51.400>The <00:39:51.633>interaction <00:39:51.866>becomes <00:39:52.100>a <00:39:52.333>little <00:39:52.566>bit <00:39:52.800>closer.

806
00:39:54.700 --> 00:39:58.400
<00:39:54.700>It <00:39:54.933>becomes <00:39:55.166>special <00:39:55.399>compared <00:39:55.633>to <00:39:55.866>some <00:39:56.100>product.

807
00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:01.300
<00:39:59.400>I <00:39:59.633>saw <00:39:59.866>just <00:40:00.100>another <00:40:00.333>question <00:40:00.566>in <00:40:00.800>the

808
00:40:02.200 --> 00:40:05.700
<00:40:02.200>chat <00:40:02.480>from <00:40:02.759>Jacob <00:40:03.040>how <00:40:03.319>we <00:40:03.600>how

809
00:40:05.700 --> 00:40:07.100
<00:40:05.700>tested <00:40:06.120>are <00:40:06.540>these <00:40:06.960>products?

810
00:40:08.200 --> 00:40:11.400
<00:40:08.200>Can <00:40:08.375>there <00:40:08.549>be <00:40:08.725>a <00:40:08.899>possible <00:40:09.075>built <00:40:09.250>in <00:40:09.424>trap <00:40:09.600>fall

811
00:40:11.400 --> 00:40:12.000
<00:40:11.400>in <00:40:11.670>the <00:40:11.940>hardware?

812
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813
00:40:17.500 --> 00:40:20.800
<00:40:17.500>and <00:40:17.700>the <00:40:17.900>question <00:40:18.100>is <00:40:18.300>of <00:40:18.500>course, <00:40:18.700>there <00:40:18.900>can

814
00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:23.700
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815
00:40:23.700 --> 00:40:27.100
<00:40:23.700>see <00:40:23.899>the <00:40:24.100>the <00:40:24.299>discussion <00:40:24.500>of <00:40:24.700>the <00:40:24.899>five <00:40:25.100>Chi

816
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<00:40:26.100>mobile <00:40:26.299>network <00:40:26.500>we <00:40:26.700>have <00:40:26.900>in <00:40:27.100>Germany <00:40:27.299>that <00:40:27.500>who

817
00:40:29.300 --> 00:40:32.200
<00:40:29.300>are <00:40:29.766>wise <00:40:30.233>expected <00:40:30.700>to

818
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<00:40:32.200>be <00:40:32.399>not <00:40:32.600>that <00:40:32.799>trusted <00:40:33.000>compared <00:40:33.200>to <00:40:33.399>Ericson, <00:40:33.600>which

819
00:40:35.600 --> 00:40:38.500
<00:40:35.600>is <00:40:35.880>the <00:40:36.160>second <00:40:36.440>vendor. <00:40:36.720>Yes. <00:40:37.000>This

820
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<00:40:38.500>is <00:40:38.655>something <00:40:38.811>we <00:40:38.966>fear <00:40:39.122>and <00:40:39.277>we <00:40:39.433>saw <00:40:39.588>also <00:40:39.744>in <00:40:39.900>the

821
00:40:41.200 --> 00:40:45.000
<00:40:41.200>history <00:40:41.433>that <00:40:41.666>sometimes <00:40:41.899>there <00:40:42.133>are <00:40:42.366>backdoors <00:40:42.600>Hardware

822
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:48.400
<00:40:44.400>software <00:40:44.680>backdoors <00:40:44.960>build <00:40:45.240>in <00:40:45.520>and <00:40:45.800>this

823
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:51.000
<00:40:47.400>is <00:40:48.100>something <00:40:48.800>which

824
00:40:50.100 --> 00:40:53.400
<00:40:50.100>is <00:40:50.333>pride <00:40:50.566>quite <00:40:50.799>problematic. <00:40:51.033>We <00:40:51.266>come <00:40:51.500>to

825
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<00:40:53.400>some <00:40:53.737>point <00:40:54.075>of <00:40:54.412>this <00:40:54.750>later.

826
00:40:57.500 --> 00:40:57.800
Yeah.

827
00:40:58.700 --> 00:41:00.100
<00:40:58.700>And <00:40:58.910>of <00:40:59.120>course <00:40:59.330>on <00:40:59.540>the <00:40:59.750>other <00:40:59.960>hand.

828
00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:03.700
<00:41:01.400>Besides <00:41:01.600>all <00:41:01.800>support <00:41:02.000>we <00:41:02.200>get <00:41:02.400>from <00:41:02.600>the <00:41:02.800>vendor.

829
00:41:04.500 --> 00:41:07.300
<00:41:04.500>There <00:41:04.655>is <00:41:04.811>some <00:41:04.966>information <00:41:05.122>from <00:41:05.277>the <00:41:05.433>vendor <00:41:05.588>which <00:41:05.744>is <00:41:05.900>not

830
00:41:07.300 --> 00:41:10.600
<00:41:07.300>as <00:41:07.533>close. <00:41:07.766>We <00:41:08.000>don't <00:41:08.233>get <00:41:08.466>all <00:41:08.700>our

831
00:41:10.600 --> 00:41:13.100
<00:41:10.600>details <00:41:10.880>because <00:41:11.160>of <00:41:11.440>some <00:41:11.720>of <00:41:12.000>the

832
00:41:13.100 --> 00:41:16.400
<00:41:13.100>knowledge <00:41:13.275>is <00:41:13.450>vital <00:41:13.625>for <00:41:13.799>the <00:41:13.975>vendor <00:41:14.150>to <00:41:14.325>keep <00:41:14.500>his

833
00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:19.800
<00:41:16.400>technical <00:41:16.600>standard <00:41:16.800>compared <00:41:17.000>to <00:41:17.200>the <00:41:17.400>other <00:41:17.600>vendors <00:41:17.800>in

834
00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:20.100
<00:41:19.800>the <00:41:20.069>market.

835
00:41:21.100 --> 00:41:24.600
<00:41:21.100>And <00:41:21.299>in <00:41:21.500>in <00:41:21.700>this <00:41:21.900>this <00:41:22.100>point <00:41:22.299>needs <00:41:22.500>always

836
00:41:24.600 --> 00:41:25.800
<00:41:24.600>to <00:41:25.140>be <00:41:25.680>yeah.

837
00:41:26.600 --> 00:41:29.200
<00:41:26.600>We <00:41:26.799>need <00:41:27.000>to <00:41:27.200>understand <00:41:27.400>that <00:41:27.600>the <00:41:27.799>vendor <00:41:28.000>cannot

838
00:41:29.200 --> 00:41:32.400
<00:41:29.200>be <00:41:29.549>100% <00:41:29.899>transparent <00:41:30.250>but <00:41:30.600>on

839
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:35.900
<00:41:32.400>the <00:41:32.555>other <00:41:32.711>hand <00:41:32.866>the <00:41:33.022>vendor <00:41:33.177>needs <00:41:33.333>to <00:41:33.488>know <00:41:33.644>that <00:41:33.800>our

840
00:41:35.900 --> 00:41:39.000
<00:41:35.900>common <00:41:36.100>goal <00:41:36.300>is <00:41:36.500>Supply <00:41:36.700>Munich <00:41:36.900>that <00:41:37.100>that <00:41:37.300>the

841
00:41:38.500 --> 00:41:41.300
<00:41:38.500>vendor <00:41:38.675>is <00:41:38.850>part <00:41:39.025>of <00:41:39.200>the <00:41:39.375>chain <00:41:39.550>that <00:41:39.725>the <00:41:39.900>vendor

842
00:41:41.300 --> 00:41:46.000
<00:41:41.300>is <00:41:41.475>not <00:41:41.650>only <00:41:41.825>supplying <00:41:42.000>us. <00:41:42.175>He's <00:41:42.350>supplying <00:41:42.525>new <00:41:42.700>Munich

843
00:41:45.500 --> 00:41:48.200
<00:41:45.500>and <00:41:45.780>this <00:41:46.060>this <00:41:46.340>creates <00:41:46.620>this <00:41:46.900>very

844
00:41:48.200 --> 00:41:51.700
<00:41:48.200>special <00:41:48.549>combination <00:41:48.899>of <00:41:49.250>operating <00:41:49.600>company

845
00:41:51.700 --> 00:41:53.100
<00:41:51.700>and <00:41:52.120>the <00:41:52.540>vending <00:41:52.960>company.

846
00:41:56.200 --> 00:41:59.300
<00:41:56.200>And <00:41:56.549>the <00:41:56.899>fourth <00:41:57.250>conclusion <00:41:57.600>I

847
00:41:59.300 --> 00:41:59.900
<00:41:59.300>have <00:41:59.840>here.

848
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:04.700
<00:42:01.400>All <00:42:01.575>players <00:42:01.750>on <00:42:01.925>the <00:42:02.100>field <00:42:02.275>service <00:42:02.450>companies <00:42:02.625>vendors <00:42:02.800>authorities

849
00:42:04.700 --> 00:42:07.400
<00:42:04.700>official <00:42:05.166>bodies <00:42:05.633>customers <00:42:06.100>Etc

850
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:10.700
<00:42:07.400>are <00:42:07.600>required <00:42:07.800>to <00:42:08.000>achieve <00:42:08.200>the <00:42:08.400>Target. <00:42:08.600>No, <00:42:08.800>one

851
00:42:10.700 --> 00:42:13.400
<00:42:10.700>of <00:42:10.899>these <00:42:11.100>players <00:42:11.299>is <00:42:11.500>able <00:42:11.700>to <00:42:11.899>really <00:42:12.100>achieve

852
00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:14.600
<00:42:13.400>the <00:42:13.670>Target <00:42:13.940>by <00:42:14.210>its <00:42:14.480>own.

853
00:42:15.300 --> 00:42:20.000
<00:42:15.300>And <00:42:15.533>preparation <00:42:15.766>is <00:42:16.000>very <00:42:16.233>important <00:42:16.466>to <00:42:16.700>I

854
00:42:18.100 --> 00:42:21.200
<00:42:18.100>put <00:42:18.380>it <00:42:18.660>here <00:42:18.940>in <00:42:19.220>to <00:42:19.500>defend

855
00:42:21.200 --> 00:42:24.200
<00:42:21.200>or <00:42:21.399>survive <00:42:21.600>a <00:42:21.799>Cyber <00:42:22.000>attack. <00:42:22.200>If <00:42:22.399>you're <00:42:22.600>not

856
00:42:24.200 --> 00:42:27.700
<00:42:24.200>prepared. <00:42:24.433>If <00:42:24.666>you're <00:42:24.899>risk <00:42:25.133>management <00:42:25.366>system <00:42:25.600>and

857
00:42:27.700 --> 00:42:30.200
<00:42:27.700>your <00:42:28.166>system <00:42:28.633>how <00:42:29.100>to

858
00:42:30.200 --> 00:42:33.200
<00:42:30.200>come <00:42:30.433>back <00:42:30.666>actually <00:42:30.899>the <00:42:31.133>business <00:42:31.366>continuity <00:42:31.600>if

859
00:42:33.200 --> 00:42:34.700
<00:42:33.200>it's <00:42:33.424>not <00:42:33.649>then <00:42:33.875>you <00:42:34.100>have <00:42:34.325>a <00:42:34.549>problem.

860
00:42:35.700 --> 00:42:38.900
<00:42:35.700>and <00:42:35.855>what <00:42:36.011>we <00:42:36.166>didn't <00:42:36.322>mention <00:42:36.477>in <00:42:36.633>all <00:42:36.788>the <00:42:36.944>the <00:42:37.100>slides

861
00:42:38.900 --> 00:42:41.100
<00:42:38.900>before <00:42:39.180>is <00:42:39.460>I <00:42:39.740>I <00:42:40.020>wanted <00:42:40.300>to

862
00:42:41.100 --> 00:42:42.200
<00:42:41.100>put <00:42:41.347>it <00:42:41.595>in <00:42:41.842>because <00:42:42.089>it's

863
00:42:43.100 --> 00:42:46.300
<00:42:43.100>very <00:42:43.299>important <00:42:43.500>awareness <00:42:43.700>of <00:42:43.900>awareness <00:42:44.100>awareness <00:42:44.299>people <00:42:44.500>are

864
00:42:46.300 --> 00:42:49.200
<00:42:46.300>one <00:42:46.500>of <00:42:46.700>the <00:42:46.900>main <00:42:47.100>things <00:42:47.300>we <00:42:47.500>are <00:42:47.700>looking

865
00:42:49.200 --> 00:42:49.600
<00:42:49.200>for <00:42:49.560>and

866
00:42:51.100 --> 00:42:54.300
<00:42:51.100>I <00:42:51.255>have <00:42:51.411>one <00:42:51.566>example <00:42:51.722>here. <00:42:51.877>I <00:42:52.033>don't <00:42:52.188>tell <00:42:52.344>you <00:42:52.500>that

867
00:42:54.300 --> 00:42:57.300
<00:42:54.300>the <00:42:54.440>name <00:42:54.580>of <00:42:54.720>the <00:42:54.860>company <00:42:55.000>but <00:42:55.140>there <00:42:55.280>was <00:42:55.420>a <00:42:55.560>pitching <00:42:55.700>mail

868
00:42:57.300 --> 00:43:00.700
<00:42:57.300>campaign. <00:42:57.455>So <00:42:57.611>it <00:42:57.766>was <00:42:57.922>a <00:42:58.077>testing <00:42:58.233>to <00:42:58.388>the <00:42:58.544>company <00:42:58.700>of

869
00:43:00.700 --> 00:43:03.000
<00:43:00.700>random <00:43:00.980>employees <00:43:01.259>of <00:43:01.540>an <00:43:01.819>IT <00:43:02.100>department.

870
00:43:04.200 --> 00:43:07.000
<00:43:04.200>And <00:43:04.375>they <00:43:04.549>got <00:43:04.725>a <00:43:04.899>success <00:43:05.075>rate <00:43:05.250>of <00:43:05.424>nearly <00:43:05.600>70%

871
00:43:08.200 --> 00:43:11.400
<00:43:08.200>And <00:43:08.355>actually <00:43:08.511>the <00:43:08.666>management <00:43:08.822>was <00:43:08.977>a <00:43:09.133>bit <00:43:09.288>shocked <00:43:09.444>because <00:43:09.600>they

872
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:14.800
<00:43:11.400>saw <00:43:11.575>they <00:43:11.750>are <00:43:11.925>the <00:43:12.100>Specialists. <00:43:12.275>They <00:43:12.450>know <00:43:12.625>if <00:43:12.800>they

873
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:17.500
<00:43:14.800>are <00:43:14.975>allowed <00:43:15.150>to <00:43:15.325>click <00:43:15.500>and <00:43:15.675>they <00:43:15.850>know <00:43:16.025>about <00:43:16.200>all

874
00:43:17.500 --> 00:43:21.000
<00:43:17.500>the <00:43:17.780>nitty-ditty <00:43:18.060>technical <00:43:18.340>details, <00:43:18.620>but <00:43:18.900>still

875
00:43:20.300 --> 00:43:23.900
<00:43:20.300>about <00:43:20.766>70% <00:43:21.233>at <00:43:21.700>this

876
00:43:23.900 --> 00:43:26.800
<00:43:23.900>test <00:43:24.133>of <00:43:24.366>the <00:43:24.600>it <00:43:24.833>employees <00:43:25.066>clicked <00:43:25.300>and

877
00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:29.700
<00:43:26.800>said, <00:43:26.975>oh, <00:43:27.150>let's <00:43:27.325>have <00:43:27.500>a <00:43:27.675>look <00:43:27.850>what's <00:43:28.025>behind <00:43:28.200>that

878
00:43:29.700 --> 00:43:30.100
link?

879
00:43:30.900 --> 00:43:33.500
<00:43:30.900>And <00:43:31.133>this <00:43:31.366>is <00:43:31.600>something <00:43:31.833>yeah <00:43:32.066>awareness. <00:43:32.300>You

880
00:43:33.500 --> 00:43:37.300
<00:43:33.500>can't <00:43:33.700>I <00:43:33.900>think <00:43:34.100>you <00:43:34.300>can <00:43:34.500>train <00:43:34.700>it <00:43:34.900>often

881
00:43:36.300 --> 00:43:39.500
<00:43:36.300>enough. <00:43:36.533>You <00:43:36.766>need <00:43:37.000>to <00:43:37.233>be <00:43:37.466>you <00:43:37.700>need

882
00:43:39.500 --> 00:43:42.500
<00:43:39.500>to <00:43:39.675>make <00:43:39.850>people <00:43:40.025>aware <00:43:40.200>that <00:43:40.375>there <00:43:40.550>is <00:43:40.725>a <00:43:40.900>safety

883
00:43:42.500 --> 00:43:43.100
<00:43:42.500>issue <00:43:43.040>here.

884
00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:45.600
and

885
00:43:47.100 --> 00:43:50.600
<00:43:47.100>we're <00:43:47.240>nearly <00:43:47.380>at <00:43:47.520>the <00:43:47.660>end, <00:43:47.799>but <00:43:47.940>there <00:43:48.080>is <00:43:48.220>one <00:43:48.360>thing <00:43:48.500>which

886
00:43:50.600 --> 00:43:50.800
is

887
00:43:51.900 --> 00:43:55.000
<00:43:51.900>Now <00:43:52.100>addressing <00:43:52.300>in <00:43:52.500>which <00:43:52.700>is <00:43:52.900>changing. <00:43:53.100>It's <00:43:53.300>the

888
00:43:54.200 --> 00:43:56.500
<00:43:54.200>business <00:43:54.899>continuity <00:43:55.600>management.

889
00:43:58.300 --> 00:44:01.600
<00:43:58.300>I <00:43:58.427>mean <00:43:58.554>the <00:43:58.681>task <00:43:58.809>was <00:43:58.936>always <00:43:59.063>there <00:43:59.190>and <00:43:59.318>of <00:43:59.445>course <00:43:59.572>is <00:43:59.700>still

890
00:44:01.600 --> 00:44:04.400
<00:44:01.600>present, <00:44:01.799>but <00:44:02.000>the <00:44:02.200>way <00:44:02.400>how <00:44:02.600>we <00:44:02.799>addressing <00:44:03.000>is

891
00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:08.600
<00:44:04.400>or <00:44:04.600>how <00:44:04.800>we <00:44:05.000>calculate <00:44:05.200>is <00:44:05.400>changing <00:44:05.600>and <00:44:05.800>in

892
00:44:07.600 --> 00:44:10.500
<00:44:07.600>these <00:44:07.833>days <00:44:08.066>there's <00:44:08.299>a <00:44:08.533>more <00:44:08.766>formal <00:44:09.000>approach

893
00:44:10.500 --> 00:44:13.000
<00:44:10.500>like <00:44:10.850>the <00:44:11.200>business <00:44:11.550>continuity <00:44:11.900>management.

894
00:44:14.300 --> 00:44:17.700
<00:44:14.300>And <00:44:14.533>it's <00:44:14.766>really <00:44:15.000>you <00:44:15.233>identify <00:44:15.466>which <00:44:15.700>process

895
00:44:17.700 --> 00:44:20.300
<00:44:17.700>are <00:44:17.980>really <00:44:18.259>Critical <00:44:18.540>with <00:44:18.819>respect <00:44:19.100>to

896
00:44:20.300 --> 00:44:21.200
<00:44:20.300>your <00:44:20.705>final <00:44:21.109>product.

897
00:44:22.500 --> 00:44:25.700
<00:44:22.500>You <00:44:22.640>might <00:44:22.780>have <00:44:22.920>processes <00:44:23.060>which <00:44:23.200>are <00:44:23.340>in <00:44:23.480>an <00:44:23.620>everyday <00:44:23.760>operation. <00:44:23.900>Very

898
00:44:25.700 --> 00:44:28.800
<00:44:25.700>critical. <00:44:25.899>Like <00:44:26.100>are <00:44:26.299>you <00:44:26.500>able <00:44:26.700>to <00:44:26.899>place <00:44:27.100>in

899
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:31.900
<00:44:28.800>order <00:44:28.940>to <00:44:29.080>a <00:44:29.220>vendor <00:44:29.360>are <00:44:29.500>you <00:44:29.640>able <00:44:29.780>to <00:44:29.920>do <00:44:30.060>whatever <00:44:30.200>but

900
00:44:31.900 --> 00:44:34.500
<00:44:31.900>this <00:44:32.133>processes <00:44:32.366>when <00:44:32.600>it <00:44:32.833>comes <00:44:33.066>to <00:44:33.300>real

901
00:44:34.500 --> 00:44:37.400
<00:44:34.500>critical <00:44:34.733>situation, <00:44:34.966>you <00:44:35.200>may <00:44:35.433>not <00:44:35.666>be <00:44:35.900>able

902
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:40.100
<00:44:37.400>to <00:44:37.575>place <00:44:37.750>an <00:44:37.925>order <00:44:38.100>at <00:44:38.275>the <00:44:38.450>vendor. <00:44:38.625>It <00:44:38.800>might

903
00:44:40.100 --> 00:44:44.100
<00:44:40.100>be <00:44:40.216>able <00:44:40.333>you <00:44:40.450>give <00:44:40.566>them <00:44:40.683>a <00:44:40.799>phone <00:44:40.916>call <00:44:41.033>and <00:44:41.150>and <00:44:41.266>and <00:44:41.383>the <00:44:41.500>signature

904
00:44:43.100 --> 00:44:46.800
<00:44:43.100>and <00:44:43.299>say <00:44:43.500>please <00:44:43.700>deliver <00:44:43.900>it <00:44:44.100>me <00:44:44.299>everything <00:44:44.500>else

905
00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:47.700
<00:44:46.800>we <00:44:47.205>will <00:44:47.609>clarify.

906
00:44:48.500 --> 00:44:51.300
<00:44:48.500>But <00:44:48.700>there <00:44:48.900>are <00:44:49.100>some <00:44:49.300>processes <00:44:49.500>like <00:44:49.700>in <00:44:49.900>our

907
00:44:51.300 --> 00:44:54.400
<00:44:51.300>case. <00:44:51.416>We <00:44:51.533>need <00:44:51.650>to <00:44:51.766>run <00:44:51.883>the <00:44:52.000>grid <00:44:52.116>for <00:44:52.233>the <00:44:52.350>electrical <00:44:52.466>for <00:44:52.583>water <00:44:52.700>and

908
00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:54.500
whatever.

909
00:44:55.300 --> 00:44:58.500
<00:44:55.300>These <00:44:55.440>processes <00:44:55.580>need <00:44:55.720>to <00:44:55.860>be <00:44:56.000>up <00:44:56.140>and <00:44:56.280>these <00:44:56.420>processes <00:44:56.560>are <00:44:56.700>neat

910
00:44:58.500 --> 00:45:01.200
<00:44:58.500>to <00:44:58.850>to <00:44:59.200>be <00:44:59.550>in <00:44:59.900>service.

911
00:45:01.200 --> 00:45:02.000
<00:45:01.200>They <00:45:01.440>need <00:45:01.680>to <00:45:01.920>function.

912
00:45:03.500 --> 00:45:06.400
<00:45:03.500>one <00:45:03.655>thing <00:45:03.811>what <00:45:03.966>we <00:45:04.122>learned <00:45:04.277>from <00:45:04.433>the <00:45:04.588>Ukrainian <00:45:04.744>war <00:45:04.900>is

913
00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:06.900
that

914
00:45:08.200 --> 00:45:11.900
<00:45:08.200>operational <00:45:08.480>technology <00:45:08.759>structures <00:45:09.040>will <00:45:09.319>be <00:45:09.600>successfully

915
00:45:11.900 --> 00:45:12.900
attacked.

916
00:45:14.200 --> 00:45:17.400
<00:45:14.200>We <00:45:14.355>we <00:45:14.511>see <00:45:14.666>no <00:45:14.822>possibility <00:45:14.977>at <00:45:15.133>the <00:45:15.288>moment. <00:45:15.444>Then <00:45:15.600>you

917
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:20.200
<00:45:17.400>can <00:45:17.555>bring <00:45:17.711>up <00:45:17.866>your <00:45:18.022>security <00:45:18.177>up <00:45:18.333>to <00:45:18.488>a <00:45:18.644>level <00:45:18.800>that

918
00:45:20.200 --> 00:45:21.200
<00:45:20.200>this <00:45:20.500>is <00:45:20.799>not <00:45:21.100>possible.

919
00:45:22.500 --> 00:45:26.200
<00:45:22.500>I <00:45:22.640>sometimes <00:45:22.780>compare <00:45:22.920>it <00:45:23.060>a <00:45:23.200>little <00:45:23.340>bit <00:45:23.480>with <00:45:23.620>the <00:45:23.760>with <00:45:23.900>the

920
00:45:26.200 --> 00:45:29.400
<00:45:26.200>tree <00:45:26.433>saw <00:45:26.666>at <00:45:26.899>the <00:45:27.133>bank. <00:45:27.366>There <00:45:27.600>are

921
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:32.300
<00:45:29.400>a <00:45:29.575>lot <00:45:29.750>of <00:45:29.925>criminals <00:45:30.100>and <00:45:30.275>they <00:45:30.450>they <00:45:30.625>blow <00:45:30.800>up.

922
00:45:33.600 --> 00:45:36.000
<00:45:33.600>the <00:45:33.880>the <00:45:34.160>concrete <00:45:34.440>structure <00:45:34.720>in <00:45:35.000>the

923
00:45:36.600 --> 00:45:39.600
<00:45:36.600>open <00:45:36.727>the <00:45:36.854>door <00:45:36.981>and <00:45:37.109>so <00:45:37.236>they <00:45:37.363>wrap <00:45:37.490>out <00:45:37.618>the <00:45:37.745>bank <00:45:37.872>and <00:45:38.000>no

924
00:45:39.600 --> 00:45:43.300
<00:45:39.600>Bank <00:45:39.775>in <00:45:39.950>the <00:45:40.125>history <00:45:40.299>was <00:45:40.475>able <00:45:40.650>to <00:45:40.825>build <00:45:41.000>a

925
00:45:44.600 --> 00:45:46.900
<00:45:44.600>structure <00:45:44.950>that <00:45:45.299>the <00:45:45.650>bank <00:45:46.000>is

926
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:50.600
<00:45:47.800>100% <00:45:48.500>percent <00:45:49.200>safe

927
00:45:50.600 --> 00:45:54.300
<00:45:50.600>against <00:45:50.833>robbery. <00:45:51.066>This <00:45:51.299>is <00:45:51.533>probably <00:45:51.766>not <00:45:52.000>possible.

928
00:45:55.500 --> 00:45:58.500
<00:45:55.500>and <00:45:55.640>so <00:45:55.780>critics <00:45:55.920>companies <00:45:56.060>have <00:45:56.200>to <00:45:56.340>be <00:45:56.480>prepared <00:45:56.620>with <00:45:56.760>the <00:45:56.900>situation

929
00:45:58.500 --> 00:45:59.400
and

930
00:46:00.200 --> 00:46:03.500
<00:46:00.200>In <00:46:00.355>principle, <00:46:00.511>you <00:46:00.666>say <00:46:00.822>you <00:46:00.977>need <00:46:01.133>to <00:46:01.288>detect <00:46:01.444>the <00:46:01.600>net

931
00:46:03.500 --> 00:46:06.300
<00:46:03.500>I <00:46:03.675>take <00:46:03.850>her <00:46:04.025>you <00:46:04.200>need <00:46:04.375>to <00:46:04.550>isolate <00:46:04.725>the <00:46:04.900>attacker.

932
00:46:07.300 --> 00:46:10.500
<00:46:07.300>For <00:46:07.475>some <00:46:07.650>time <00:46:07.825>you <00:46:08.000>need <00:46:08.175>to <00:46:08.350>operate <00:46:08.525>manually <00:46:08.700>your

933
00:46:10.500 --> 00:46:13.000
<00:46:10.500>services. <00:46:10.675>You <00:46:10.850>need <00:46:11.025>to <00:46:11.200>have <00:46:11.375>some <00:46:11.550>some <00:46:11.725>stuff <00:46:11.900>out.

934
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:18.600
<00:46:15.400>In <00:46:15.600>the <00:46:15.800>substation <00:46:16.000>for <00:46:16.200>example <00:46:16.400>to <00:46:16.600>operate <00:46:16.800>whether

935
00:46:18.600 --> 00:46:21.300
<00:46:18.600>with <00:46:18.727>a <00:46:18.854>with <00:46:18.981>a <00:46:19.109>walkie <00:46:19.236>talkie <00:46:19.363>or <00:46:19.490>something <00:46:19.618>like <00:46:19.745>that <00:46:19.872>or <00:46:20.000>with

936
00:46:21.300 --> 00:46:24.200
<00:46:21.300>a <00:46:21.475>mobile <00:46:21.650>phone <00:46:21.825>then <00:46:22.000>you <00:46:22.175>need <00:46:22.350>to <00:46:22.525>restore <00:46:22.700>your

937
00:46:24.200 --> 00:46:26.000
<00:46:24.200>system <00:46:24.399>to <00:46:24.600>be <00:46:24.799>up <00:46:25.000>in <00:46:25.200>the <00:46:25.399>normal <00:46:25.600>operation.

938
00:46:27.300 --> 00:46:30.000
<00:46:27.300>sounds <00:46:27.650>simple <00:46:28.000>and <00:46:28.350>of <00:46:28.700>course

939
00:46:30.300 --> 00:46:33.300
<00:46:30.300>this <00:46:30.455>four <00:46:30.611>steps <00:46:30.766>in <00:46:30.922>principle, <00:46:31.077>they <00:46:31.233>are <00:46:31.388>simple <00:46:31.544>but <00:46:31.700>when

940
00:46:33.300 --> 00:46:33.900
<00:46:33.300>it <00:46:33.570>comes <00:46:33.840>to

941
00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:38.100
<00:46:34.800>performing <00:46:35.080>each <00:46:35.360>of <00:46:35.640>this <00:46:35.920>step <00:46:36.200>getting

942
00:46:37.100 --> 00:46:38.700
difficult

943
00:46:41.300 --> 00:46:44.100
<00:46:41.300>And <00:46:41.455>now <00:46:41.611>I <00:46:41.766>have <00:46:41.922>some <00:46:42.077>some <00:46:42.233>questions <00:46:42.388>also <00:46:42.544>for <00:46:42.700>the

944
00:46:44.100 --> 00:46:46.100
<00:46:44.100>discussion <00:46:44.450>we <00:46:44.799>can <00:46:45.150>step <00:46:45.500>into.

945
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:50.500
<00:46:47.400>and <00:46:47.633>one <00:46:47.866>of <00:46:48.100>these <00:46:48.333>discussions <00:46:48.566>this <00:46:48.800>is

946
00:46:50.500 --> 00:46:53.800
<00:46:50.500>addressing <00:46:50.655>a <00:46:50.811>little <00:46:50.966>bit <00:46:51.122>the <00:46:51.277>question <00:46:51.433>we <00:46:51.588>had <00:46:51.744>with <00:46:51.900>the

947
00:46:54.600 --> 00:46:57.400
<00:46:54.600>how <00:46:54.833>products <00:46:55.066>are <00:46:55.299>tested <00:46:55.533>or <00:46:55.766>can <00:46:56.000>they

948
00:46:57.400 --> 00:46:58.200
<00:46:57.400>be <00:46:57.759>trapped <00:46:58.120>in?

949
00:46:59.200 --> 00:47:02.600
<00:46:59.200>There <00:46:59.375>and <00:46:59.549>what <00:46:59.725>we <00:46:59.899>are <00:47:00.075>discussing <00:47:00.250>is <00:47:00.424>on <00:47:00.600>the

950
00:47:02.600 --> 00:47:04.500
<00:47:02.600>national <00:47:02.950>and <00:47:03.299>also <00:47:03.650>European <00:47:04.000>basis.

951
00:47:05.500 --> 00:47:08.300
<00:47:05.500>Should <00:47:05.780>authorities <00:47:06.060>regulate <00:47:06.340>hardware <00:47:06.620>for <00:47:06.900>critical

952
00:47:08.300 --> 00:47:12.000
<00:47:08.300>infrastructure <00:47:08.533>in <00:47:08.766>Germany. <00:47:09.000>We <00:47:09.233>have <00:47:09.466>at <00:47:09.700>the

953
00:47:11.100 --> 00:47:16.200
<00:47:11.100>moment <00:47:11.380>our <00:47:11.660>national <00:47:11.940>Authority <00:47:12.220>restricted <00:47:12.500>further

954
00:47:15.200 --> 00:47:18.500
<00:47:15.200>use <00:47:15.399>of <00:47:15.600>who <00:47:15.799>a <00:47:16.000>wife <00:47:16.200>or <00:47:16.399>the <00:47:16.600>5G

955
00:47:18.500 --> 00:47:19.300
<00:47:18.500>mobile <00:47:19.220>networks.

956
00:47:20.200 --> 00:47:22.300
<00:47:20.200>So <00:47:20.433>here <00:47:20.666>we <00:47:20.899>have <00:47:21.133>already <00:47:21.366>an <00:47:21.600>advice.

957
00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:26.600
<00:47:23.400>For <00:47:23.575>our <00:47:23.750>sector, <00:47:23.925>for <00:47:24.100>example <00:47:24.275>for <00:47:24.450>the <00:47:24.625>for <00:47:24.800>the

958
00:47:26.600 --> 00:47:29.200
<00:47:26.600>critical <00:47:27.066>infrastructure <00:47:27.533>serving <00:47:28.000>Energies.

959
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:32.100
<00:47:29.800>Up <00:47:29.975>to <00:47:30.150>now <00:47:30.325>there <00:47:30.500>is <00:47:30.675>no <00:47:30.850>advice <00:47:31.025>like <00:47:31.200>this.

960
00:47:33.200 --> 00:47:36.400
<00:47:33.200>But <00:47:33.355>of <00:47:33.511>course <00:47:33.666>there <00:47:33.822>are <00:47:33.977>pros <00:47:34.133>and <00:47:34.288>cons. <00:47:34.444>I <00:47:34.600>mean

961
00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:39.400
<00:47:36.400>if <00:47:36.680>is <00:47:36.960>a <00:47:37.240>company <00:47:37.520>really <00:47:37.800>able

962
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:42.400
<00:47:39.400>to <00:47:39.750>test <00:47:40.100>and <00:47:40.450>Equipment <00:47:40.800>up

963
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:45.300
<00:47:42.400>to <00:47:42.555>a <00:47:42.711>level <00:47:42.866>that <00:47:43.022>we <00:47:43.177>are <00:47:43.333>sure <00:47:43.488>that <00:47:43.644>there <00:47:43.800>is

964
00:47:45.300 --> 00:47:49.200
<00:47:45.300>no <00:47:45.440>backdo. <00:47:45.580>No <00:47:45.720>trap. <00:47:45.860>No <00:47:46.000>something <00:47:46.140>like <00:47:46.280>that <00:47:46.420>in <00:47:46.560>there <00:47:46.700>inside

965
00:47:48.200 --> 00:47:51.700
<00:47:48.200>my <00:47:48.666>personal <00:47:49.133>feeling <00:47:49.600>if

966
00:47:51.700 --> 00:47:54.300
<00:47:51.700>a <00:47:51.933>company <00:47:52.166>would <00:47:52.399>be <00:47:52.633>able <00:47:52.866>it <00:47:53.100>would

967
00:47:54.300 --> 00:47:56.400
<00:47:54.300>be <00:47:54.533>only <00:47:54.766>the <00:47:55.000>very <00:47:55.233>very <00:47:55.466>large <00:47:55.700>one.

968
00:47:57.500 --> 00:48:00.400
<00:47:57.500>But <00:47:57.733>actually <00:47:57.966>my <00:47:58.200>personal <00:47:58.433>point <00:47:58.666>of <00:47:58.900>view

969
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:03.200
<00:48:00.400>is <00:48:00.527>as <00:48:00.654>a <00:48:00.781>company, <00:48:00.909>you're <00:48:01.036>not <00:48:01.163>in <00:48:01.290>a <00:48:01.418>position <00:48:01.545>that <00:48:01.672>you <00:48:01.800>can

970
00:48:03.200 --> 00:48:04.300
<00:48:03.200>really <00:48:03.695>test <00:48:04.190>it.

971
00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:08.500
<00:48:06.800>Same <00:48:08.200>yeah.

972
00:48:09.300 --> 00:48:12.600
<00:48:09.300>A <00:48:09.500>little <00:48:09.700>bit <00:48:09.900>from <00:48:10.100>another <00:48:10.300>perspective. <00:48:10.500>I <00:48:10.700>I

973
00:48:12.600 --> 00:48:14.700
<00:48:12.600>put <00:48:12.799>it <00:48:13.000>in <00:48:13.200>there <00:48:13.400>as <00:48:13.600>the <00:48:13.799>German <00:48:14.000>Way.

974
00:48:15.500 --> 00:48:18.400
<00:48:15.500>We <00:48:15.700>have <00:48:15.900>an <00:48:16.100>authority <00:48:16.300>approval <00:48:16.500>for <00:48:16.700>smart <00:48:16.900>meters.

975
00:48:19.300 --> 00:48:22.500
<00:48:19.300>And <00:48:19.500>this <00:48:19.700>Authority <00:48:19.900>approval <00:48:20.100>is <00:48:20.300>that <00:48:20.500>the <00:48:20.700>BSI

976
00:48:22.500 --> 00:48:26.200
<00:48:22.500>that <00:48:22.733>the <00:48:22.966>German <00:48:23.200>cyber <00:48:23.433>defense <00:48:23.666>Authority <00:48:23.900>they

977
00:48:25.200 --> 00:48:28.700
<00:48:25.200>tested <00:48:25.666>each <00:48:26.133>smart <00:48:26.600>meter

978
00:48:28.700 --> 00:48:31.500
<00:48:28.700>in <00:48:29.049>detail. <00:48:29.399>Very <00:48:29.750>very <00:48:30.100>deep.

979
00:48:32.100 --> 00:48:33.600
<00:48:32.100>So <00:48:32.437>they <00:48:32.775>did <00:48:33.112>this <00:48:33.450>job.

980
00:48:34.600 --> 00:48:37.600
<00:48:34.600>The <00:48:34.775>problem <00:48:34.950>was <00:48:35.125>that <00:48:35.299>it <00:48:35.475>took <00:48:35.650>us <00:48:35.825>years <00:48:36.000>and

981
00:48:37.600 --> 00:48:40.500
<00:48:37.600>years <00:48:37.775>and <00:48:37.950>years <00:48:38.125>to <00:48:38.299>get <00:48:38.475>the <00:48:38.650>smart <00:48:38.825>meters <00:48:39.000>allowed

982
00:48:40.500 --> 00:48:40.900
<00:48:40.500>for <00:48:40.680>the <00:48:40.860>market.

983
00:48:42.200 --> 00:48:44.900
<00:48:42.200>And <00:48:42.433>so <00:48:42.666>timing <00:48:42.899>was <00:48:43.133>an <00:48:43.366>issue <00:48:43.600>there.

984
00:48:46.200 --> 00:48:49.400
<00:48:46.200>And <00:48:46.355>actually <00:48:46.511>I <00:48:46.666>discussed <00:48:46.822>with <00:48:46.977>some <00:48:47.133>of <00:48:47.288>my <00:48:47.444>of <00:48:47.600>my

985
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:53.300
<00:48:49.400>colleagues <00:48:49.633>from <00:48:49.866>other <00:48:50.100>countries <00:48:50.333>and <00:48:50.566>because <00:48:50.800>we

986
00:48:52.300 --> 00:48:55.400
<00:48:52.300>are <00:48:52.500>sometimes <00:48:52.700>in <00:48:52.900>Germany <00:48:53.100>not <00:48:53.300>happy <00:48:53.500>because <00:48:53.700>of

987
00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:58.500
<00:48:55.400>the <00:48:55.600>timing <00:48:55.800>we <00:48:56.000>are <00:48:56.200>some <00:48:56.400>other <00:48:56.600>companies <00:48:56.800>they

988
00:48:58.500 --> 00:49:01.700
<00:48:58.500>go <00:48:58.627>for <00:48:58.754>the <00:48:58.881>second <00:48:59.009>role <00:48:59.136>out <00:48:59.263>of <00:48:59.390>smart <00:48:59.518>meters <00:48:59.645>of <00:48:59.772>and <00:48:59.900>and

989
00:49:01.700 --> 00:49:04.200
<00:49:01.700>we <00:49:01.875>are <00:49:02.049>going <00:49:02.225>for <00:49:02.399>the <00:49:02.575>first <00:49:02.750>roll <00:49:02.924>out. <00:49:03.100>So

990
00:49:04.200 --> 00:49:05.500
<00:49:04.200>we <00:49:04.433>are <00:49:04.667>far <00:49:04.902>behind <00:49:05.136>in <00:49:05.370>Germany.

991
00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:09.100
<00:49:06.800>but <00:49:07.000>still <00:49:07.200>some <00:49:07.400>of <00:49:07.600>my <00:49:07.800>other <00:49:08.000>collects <00:49:08.200>say

992
00:49:09.800 --> 00:49:12.300
<00:49:09.800>you <00:49:09.940>will <00:49:10.080>see <00:49:10.220>at <00:49:10.360>the <00:49:10.500>end. <00:49:10.640>You're <00:49:10.780>testing <00:49:10.920>will <00:49:11.060>be <00:49:11.200>very

993
00:49:12.300 --> 00:49:16.100
<00:49:12.300>good <00:49:12.427>and <00:49:12.554>it <00:49:12.681>will <00:49:12.809>be <00:49:12.936>best <00:49:13.063>practice <00:49:13.190>and <00:49:13.318>it <00:49:13.445>will <00:49:13.572>be <00:49:13.700>we

994
00:49:15.100 --> 00:49:17.000
<00:49:15.100>should <00:49:15.450>have <00:49:15.799>done <00:49:16.150>this <00:49:16.500>before.

995
00:49:18.300 --> 00:49:21.300
<00:49:18.300>Others <00:49:18.580>say <00:49:18.860>oh <00:49:19.140>no <00:49:19.420>all <00:49:19.700>this

996
00:49:21.300 --> 00:49:22.300
<00:49:21.300>time. <00:49:21.750>We <00:49:22.200>lose.

997
00:49:23.600 --> 00:49:27.900
<00:49:23.600>Time <00:49:23.727>is <00:49:23.854>pressing <00:49:23.981>time <00:49:24.109>is <00:49:24.236>something <00:49:24.363>we <00:49:24.490>we <00:49:24.618>don't <00:49:24.745>have <00:49:24.872>so <00:49:25.000>make

998
00:49:26.900 --> 00:49:29.600
<00:49:26.900>things <00:49:27.366>happen <00:49:27.833>test <00:49:28.300>it

999
00:49:29.600 --> 00:49:32.200
<00:49:29.600>up <00:49:29.755>to <00:49:29.911>a <00:49:30.066>certain <00:49:30.222>level <00:49:30.377>but <00:49:30.533>accept <00:49:30.688>a <00:49:30.844>certain <00:49:31.000>risk.

1000
00:49:34.300 --> 00:49:37.800
<00:49:34.300>They're <00:49:34.580>always <00:49:34.860>different <00:49:35.140>different <00:49:35.420>voices <00:49:35.700>here

1001
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:38.100
<00:49:37.800>in <00:49:38.069>this.

1002
00:49:39.100 --> 00:49:42.900
<00:49:39.100>And <00:49:39.255>I <00:49:39.411>think <00:49:39.566>it's <00:49:39.722>very <00:49:39.877>difficult <00:49:40.033>to <00:49:40.188>decide. <00:49:40.344>What <00:49:40.500>is

1003
00:49:42.900 --> 00:49:43.500
<00:49:42.900>the <00:49:43.170>best <00:49:43.440>way?

1004
00:49:44.700 --> 00:49:47.700
<00:49:44.700>So <00:49:44.839>this <00:49:44.980>is <00:49:45.120>a <00:49:45.259>bit <00:49:45.399>the <00:49:45.540>question <00:49:45.680>from <00:49:45.819>from <00:49:45.960>Jacob <00:49:46.100>how

1005
00:49:47.700 --> 00:49:50.800
<00:49:47.700>these <00:49:47.933>products <00:49:48.166>are <00:49:48.399>tested <00:49:48.633>and <00:49:48.866>the <00:49:49.100>smart

1006
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:53.500
<00:49:50.800>meters. <00:49:50.955>For <00:49:51.111>example, <00:49:51.266>they <00:49:51.422>are <00:49:51.577>tested <00:49:51.733>with <00:49:51.888>common <00:49:52.044>criteria. <00:49:52.200>So

1007
00:49:53.500 --> 00:49:55.100
<00:49:53.500>they <00:49:53.780>are <00:49:54.060>really <00:49:54.340>tested <00:49:54.620>in <00:49:54.900>depth.

1008
00:49:56.400 --> 00:49:59.600
<00:49:56.400>And <00:49:56.633>also <00:49:56.866>what <00:49:57.100>we <00:49:57.333>discuss <00:49:57.566>also <00:49:57.800>in

1009
00:49:59.600 --> 00:50:02.400
<00:49:59.600>Brussels, <00:49:59.880>which <00:50:00.160>is <00:50:00.440>quite <00:50:00.720>taking <00:50:01.000>hours

1010
00:50:02.400 --> 00:50:05.700
<00:50:02.400>and <00:50:02.575>hours <00:50:02.750>and <00:50:02.925>days <00:50:03.100>and <00:50:03.275>days <00:50:03.450>what <00:50:03.625>and <00:50:03.800>when

1011
00:50:05.700 --> 00:50:08.200
<00:50:05.700>should <00:50:05.875>or <00:50:06.049>must <00:50:06.225>a <00:50:06.399>Cyber <00:50:06.575>attack <00:50:06.750>be <00:50:06.924>reported <00:50:07.100>to

1012
00:50:08.200 --> 00:50:08.900
authorities.

1013
00:50:09.900 --> 00:50:12.100
<00:50:09.900>And <00:50:10.100>and <00:50:10.300>because <00:50:10.500>you <00:50:10.700>want <00:50:10.900>to <00:50:11.100>of <00:50:11.300>course

1014
00:50:12.100 --> 00:50:15.400
<00:50:12.100>warn <00:50:12.333>other <00:50:12.566>energy <00:50:12.799>companies <00:50:13.033>that <00:50:13.266>okay. <00:50:13.500>We

1015
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:18.900
<00:50:15.400>are <00:50:15.633>facing <00:50:15.866>and <00:50:16.100>Cyber <00:50:16.333>attack <00:50:16.566>successful <00:50:16.800>or

1016
00:50:18.900 --> 00:50:21.400
<00:50:18.900>not. <00:50:19.133>So <00:50:19.366>we <00:50:19.600>have <00:50:19.833>this <00:50:20.066>and <00:50:20.300>this

1017
00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:24.400
<00:50:21.400>information <00:50:21.600>about <00:50:21.800>the <00:50:22.000>Cyber <00:50:22.200>attack. <00:50:22.400>Please <00:50:22.600>do <00:50:22.800>this

1018
00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:25.500
<00:50:24.400>and <00:50:24.647>that <00:50:24.895>to <00:50:25.142>prepare <00:50:25.390>yourself.

1019
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:31.300
<00:50:28.400>This <00:50:28.633>is <00:50:28.866>quite <00:50:29.100>difficult <00:50:29.333>because <00:50:29.566>also <00:50:29.800>you

1020
00:50:31.300 --> 00:50:34.700
<00:50:31.300>sometimes <00:50:31.475>you <00:50:31.650>even <00:50:31.825>know <00:50:32.000>if <00:50:32.175>you <00:50:32.350>have <00:50:32.525>a <00:50:32.700>Cyber

1021
00:50:34.700 --> 00:50:37.300
<00:50:34.700>attack, <00:50:34.980>for <00:50:35.259>example <00:50:35.540>if <00:50:35.819>system <00:50:36.100>is

1022
00:50:37.300 --> 00:50:38.100
<00:50:37.300>not <00:50:37.660>working <00:50:38.020>anymore.

1023
00:50:38.900 --> 00:50:41.400
<00:50:38.900>He's <00:50:39.040>got <00:50:39.180>a <00:50:39.320>Cyber <00:50:39.460>attack <00:50:39.600>or <00:50:39.740>is <00:50:39.880>it <00:50:40.020>simply <00:50:40.160>a <00:50:40.300>malfunction?

1024
00:50:42.500 --> 00:50:45.300
<00:50:42.500>I <00:50:42.780>mean <00:50:43.060>if <00:50:43.340>if <00:50:43.620>there <00:50:43.900>is

1025
00:50:45.300 --> 00:50:48.200
<00:50:45.300>water <00:50:45.407>in <00:50:45.515>your <00:50:45.623>in <00:50:45.730>your <00:50:45.838>Hardware, <00:50:45.946>then <00:50:46.053>you <00:50:46.161>know, <00:50:46.269>okay, <00:50:46.376>it <00:50:46.484>will <00:50:46.592>not <00:50:46.700>be

1026
00:50:48.200 --> 00:50:52.200
<00:50:48.200>a <00:50:48.327>Cyber <00:50:48.454>attack <00:50:48.581>if <00:50:48.709>the <00:50:48.836>water <00:50:48.963>will <00:50:49.090>damage <00:50:49.218>the <00:50:49.345>hardware <00:50:49.472>but <00:50:49.600>sometimes

1027
00:50:51.200 --> 00:50:54.900
<00:50:51.200>if <00:50:51.480>it's <00:50:51.759>not <00:50:52.040>obvious, <00:50:52.319>what <00:50:52.600>do

1028
00:50:54.900 --> 00:50:57.400
<00:50:54.900>you <00:50:55.180>report? <00:50:55.460>My <00:50:55.740>my <00:50:56.020>Scala <00:50:56.300>system

1029
00:50:57.400 --> 00:51:00.400
<00:50:57.400>is <00:50:57.540>or <00:50:57.680>a <00:50:57.820>part <00:50:57.960>of <00:50:58.100>my <00:50:58.240>scada <00:50:58.380>system <00:50:58.520>is <00:50:58.660>out <00:50:58.800>of

1030
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:03.400
<00:51:00.400>operation, <00:51:00.600>but <00:51:00.800>I <00:51:01.000>don't <00:51:01.200>know <00:51:01.400>if <00:51:01.600>it's <00:51:01.800>really

1031
00:51:03.400 --> 00:51:04.500
<00:51:03.400>a <00:51:03.647>cyber <00:51:03.895>Tech <00:51:04.142>or <00:51:04.390>not.

1032
00:51:07.500 --> 00:51:07.500
um

1033
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:11.200
<00:51:08.800>Okay, <00:51:09.500>I <00:51:10.200>see.

1034
00:51:13.700 --> 00:51:17.200
<00:51:13.700>This <00:51:13.839>is <00:51:13.980>the <00:51:14.120>last <00:51:14.259>slides <00:51:14.399>and <00:51:14.540>I <00:51:14.680>see <00:51:14.819>some <00:51:14.960>C2 <00:51:15.100>2

1035
00:51:16.200 --> 00:51:19.700
<00:51:16.200>questions <00:51:16.433>from <00:51:16.666>Sandra <00:51:16.899>and <00:51:17.133>from <00:51:17.366>from <00:51:17.600>severine.

1036
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:23.300
<00:51:20.400>They <00:51:20.680>how <00:51:20.960>often <00:51:21.240>critical <00:51:21.520>infrastructure <00:51:21.800>is

1037
00:51:23.300 --> 00:51:24.900
<00:51:23.300>detected <00:51:23.766>at <00:51:24.233>what <00:51:24.700>scale?

1038
00:51:25.900 --> 00:51:27.700
<00:51:25.900>And <00:51:26.133>what <00:51:26.366>is <00:51:26.600>the <00:51:26.833>usual <00:51:27.066>way? <00:51:27.300>Okay.

1039
00:51:30.700 --> 00:51:33.800
<00:51:30.700>I <00:51:30.816>think <00:51:30.933>this <00:51:31.049>is <00:51:31.166>a <00:51:31.283>bit <00:51:31.399>what <00:51:31.516>I <00:51:31.633>put <00:51:31.750>in <00:51:31.866>here <00:51:31.983>this <00:51:32.100>yes,

1040
00:51:33.800 --> 00:51:36.800
<00:51:33.800>I <00:51:34.000>can. <00:51:34.200>I <00:51:34.400>mean <00:51:34.600>this <00:51:34.800>is <00:51:35.000>we <00:51:35.200>are

1041
00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:39.200
<00:51:36.800>confident <00:51:37.080>in <00:51:37.360>our <00:51:37.640>capabilities <00:51:37.920>in <00:51:38.200>our

1042
00:51:39.200 --> 00:51:40.500
<00:51:39.200>team <00:51:39.589>in <00:51:39.980>the <00:51:40.370>willingness.

1043
00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:44.300
<00:51:41.400>and <00:51:41.680>we <00:51:41.960>know <00:51:42.240>if <00:51:42.520>if <00:51:42.800>you're

1044
00:51:44.300 --> 00:51:45.600
<00:51:44.300>not <00:51:44.885>on <00:51:45.470>a

1045
00:51:46.100 --> 00:51:50.000
<00:51:46.100>on <00:51:46.333>call <00:51:46.566>duty <00:51:46.799>and <00:51:47.033>you <00:51:47.266>give <00:51:47.500>a

1046
00:51:49.200 --> 00:51:52.300
<00:51:49.200>phone <00:51:49.339>call <00:51:49.480>to <00:51:49.620>your <00:51:49.759>colleague <00:51:49.899>and <00:51:50.040>say <00:51:50.180>I <00:51:50.319>need <00:51:50.460>your <00:51:50.600>help

1047
00:51:52.300 --> 00:51:56.000
<00:51:52.300>here. <00:51:52.455>Even <00:51:52.611>if <00:51:52.766>it's <00:51:52.922>the <00:51:53.077>weekend, <00:51:53.233>we <00:51:53.388>are <00:51:53.544>nearly <00:51:53.700>100%

1048
00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:58.100
<00:51:55.400>sure <00:51:55.680>that <00:51:55.960>he <00:51:56.240>or <00:51:56.520>she <00:51:56.800>will

1049
00:51:58.100 --> 00:52:01.400
<00:51:58.100>say. <00:51:58.299>Yes. <00:51:58.500>Give <00:51:58.700>me <00:51:58.900>30 <00:51:59.100>minutes. <00:51:59.299>I'll <00:51:59.500>be

1050
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:01.900
<00:52:01.400>there <00:52:01.550>and <00:52:01.700>help <00:52:01.850>you.

1051
00:52:03.400 --> 00:52:06.900
<00:52:03.400>But <00:52:03.540>we <00:52:03.680>also <00:52:03.820>respect <00:52:03.960>the <00:52:04.100>image <00:52:04.240>of <00:52:04.380>our <00:52:04.520>knowledge <00:52:04.660>and <00:52:04.800>the

1052
00:52:06.900 --> 00:52:09.700
<00:52:06.900>power <00:52:07.180>of <00:52:07.460>of <00:52:07.740>the <00:52:08.020>attacker <00:52:08.300>so

1053
00:52:09.700 --> 00:52:12.300
<00:52:09.700>we <00:52:09.980>know <00:52:10.259>that <00:52:10.540>this <00:52:10.819>it's <00:52:11.100>getting

1054
00:52:12.300 --> 00:52:15.800
<00:52:12.300>more <00:52:12.475>modific <00:52:12.650>Health, <00:52:12.825>but <00:52:13.000>we <00:52:13.175>also <00:52:13.350>know <00:52:13.525>we <00:52:13.700>will

1055
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:18.100
<00:52:15.800>never <00:52:16.033>give <00:52:16.266>up <00:52:16.500>because <00:52:16.733>Munich <00:52:16.966>needs <00:52:17.200>to

1056
00:52:18.100 --> 00:52:21.300
<00:52:18.100>be <00:52:18.255>serviced <00:52:18.411>by <00:52:18.566>us. <00:52:18.722>And <00:52:18.877>this <00:52:19.033>is <00:52:19.188>why <00:52:19.344>we <00:52:19.500>say

1057
00:52:21.300 --> 00:52:24.100
<00:52:21.300>in <00:52:21.500>in <00:52:21.700>the <00:52:21.900>principle. <00:52:22.100>Yes, <00:52:22.300>we <00:52:22.500>can <00:52:22.700>or

1058
00:52:24.100 --> 00:52:27.400
<00:52:24.100>I <00:52:24.333>can <00:52:24.566>and <00:52:24.799>we <00:52:25.033>put <00:52:25.266>everything <00:52:25.500>in

1059
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:28.700
<00:52:27.400>there <00:52:27.692>that <00:52:27.985>this <00:52:28.277>will <00:52:28.569>happen.

1060
00:52:30.500 --> 00:52:33.400
<00:52:30.500>So <00:52:30.675>now <00:52:30.850>we <00:52:31.025>come <00:52:31.200>up <00:52:31.375>to <00:52:31.550>the <00:52:31.725>backup <00:52:31.900>slides

1061
00:52:33.400 --> 00:52:33.500
now.

1062
00:52:34.300 --> 00:52:37.300
<00:52:34.300>I <00:52:34.500>try <00:52:34.700>to <00:52:34.900>answer <00:52:35.100>the <00:52:35.300>the <00:52:35.500>questions <00:52:35.700>of

1063
00:52:37.300 --> 00:52:40.300
<00:52:37.300>savoring <00:52:37.533>how <00:52:37.766>often <00:52:38.000>critical <00:52:38.233>infrastructure <00:52:38.466>is <00:52:38.700>being

1064
00:52:40.300 --> 00:52:40.900
attacked.

1065
00:52:41.500 --> 00:52:45.000
<00:52:41.500>In <00:52:41.700>in <00:52:41.900>Germany, <00:52:42.100>it's <00:52:42.300>compared <00:52:42.500>very <00:52:42.700>seldomly <00:52:42.900>in

1066
00:52:44.100 --> 00:52:49.000
<00:52:44.100>Germany. <00:52:44.380>We <00:52:44.660>have <00:52:44.940>about <00:52:45.220>850 <00:52:45.500>energy

1067
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:49.800
companies.

1068
00:52:50.700 --> 00:52:53.600
<00:52:50.700>In <00:52:50.933>the <00:52:51.166>electrical <00:52:51.399>sectors <00:52:51.633>and <00:52:51.866>only <00:52:52.100>a

1069
00:52:53.600 --> 00:52:56.400
<00:52:53.600>few <00:52:53.740>of <00:52:53.880>them <00:52:54.020>are <00:52:54.160>attacked. <00:52:54.299>So <00:52:54.440>I <00:52:54.580>would <00:52:54.720>say <00:52:54.860>it <00:52:55.000>would

1070
00:52:56.400 --> 00:52:59.000
<00:52:56.400>be <00:52:56.633>in <00:52:56.866>as <00:52:57.100>a <00:52:57.333>severely <00:52:57.566>attacked <00:52:57.800>like

1071
00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:03.700
<00:52:59.400>not <00:52:59.516>indeed <00:52:59.633>us <00:52:59.750>on <00:52:59.866>a <00:52:59.983>web <00:53:00.100>server <00:53:00.216>or <00:53:00.333>something <00:53:00.450>like <00:53:00.566>that. <00:53:00.683>It <00:53:00.800>will

1072
00:53:03.700 --> 00:53:06.000
<00:53:03.700>be <00:53:03.933>lower <00:53:04.166>much <00:53:04.399>lower <00:53:04.633>than <00:53:04.866>one <00:53:05.100>percentage.

1073
00:53:07.100 --> 00:53:09.100
<00:53:07.100>The <00:53:07.566>usual <00:53:08.033>way <00:53:08.500>is

1074
00:53:11.300 --> 00:53:14.500
<00:53:11.300>Actually, <00:53:11.455>there <00:53:11.611>are <00:53:11.766>two <00:53:11.922>typical <00:53:12.077>ways <00:53:12.233>to <00:53:12.388>one <00:53:12.544>is <00:53:12.700>you

1075
00:53:14.500 --> 00:53:17.400
<00:53:14.500>go <00:53:14.700>with <00:53:14.900>the <00:53:15.100>office <00:53:15.300>infrastructure <00:53:15.500>and <00:53:15.700>try <00:53:15.900>to

1076
00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:18.400
<00:53:17.400>to <00:53:17.850>move <00:53:18.300>on.

1077
00:53:19.300 --> 00:53:22.700
<00:53:19.300>The <00:53:19.533>other <00:53:19.766>one <00:53:20.000>is <00:53:20.233>very <00:53:20.466>old <00:53:20.700>that

1078
00:53:22.700 --> 00:53:25.500
<00:53:22.700>put <00:53:22.933>a <00:53:23.166>new <00:53:23.399>USB <00:53:23.633>stick <00:53:23.866>somewhere <00:53:24.100>and

1079
00:53:25.500 --> 00:53:28.500
<00:53:25.500>and <00:53:25.675>have <00:53:25.850>a <00:53:26.025>look <00:53:26.200>that <00:53:26.375>the <00:53:26.550>USB <00:53:26.725>stick <00:53:26.900>is

1080
00:53:28.500 --> 00:53:31.700
<00:53:28.500>put <00:53:28.675>plugged <00:53:28.850>in <00:53:29.025>into <00:53:29.200>some <00:53:29.375>of <00:53:29.550>this <00:53:29.725>but <00:53:29.900>actually

1081
00:53:31.700 --> 00:53:35.600
<00:53:31.700>at <00:53:31.899>the <00:53:32.100>critical <00:53:32.299>infrastructure, <00:53:32.500>it <00:53:32.700>happens <00:53:32.899>very <00:53:33.100>rarely

1082
00:53:34.600 --> 00:53:36.700
<00:53:34.600>that <00:53:34.950>we <00:53:35.299>know <00:53:35.650>about <00:53:36.000>that.

1083
00:53:40.600 --> 00:53:42.000
<00:53:40.600>Then <00:53:41.230>I <00:53:41.860>see.

1084
00:53:43.500 --> 00:53:46.300
<00:53:43.500>One <00:53:43.675>comment <00:53:43.850>from <00:53:44.025>Sandra. <00:53:44.200>This <00:53:44.375>is <00:53:44.550>as <00:53:44.725>long <00:53:44.900>as

1085
00:53:46.300 --> 00:53:49.500
<00:53:46.300>the <00:53:46.580>you <00:53:46.860>trust <00:53:47.140>real <00:53:47.420>expert <00:53:47.700>and

1086
00:53:49.500 --> 00:53:52.600
<00:53:49.500>isn't <00:53:49.675>driven <00:53:49.850>by <00:53:50.025>a <00:53:50.200>Lobby <00:53:50.375>or <00:53:50.550>in <00:53:50.725>general <00:53:50.900>money.

1087
00:53:52.600 --> 00:53:55.200
<00:53:52.600>I <00:53:52.775>think <00:53:52.950>it's <00:53:53.125>better <00:53:53.299>to <00:53:53.475>be <00:53:53.650>on <00:53:53.825>the <00:53:54.000>same

1088
00:53:55.200 --> 00:53:57.700
<00:53:55.200>page <00:53:55.399>when <00:53:55.600>it <00:53:55.799>comes <00:53:56.000>to <00:53:56.200>security <00:53:56.399>and <00:53:56.600>Technology.

1089
00:53:58.900 --> 00:54:01.900
<00:53:58.900>It's <00:53:59.366>yeah, <00:53:59.833>so <00:54:00.300>true.

1090
00:54:01.900 --> 00:54:05.100
<00:54:01.900>It's <00:54:02.180>always <00:54:02.460>better <00:54:02.740>to <00:54:03.020>be <00:54:03.300>to

1091
00:54:04.100 --> 00:54:08.100
<00:54:04.100>have <00:54:04.380>arguments <00:54:04.660>and <00:54:04.940>to <00:54:05.220>to <00:54:05.500>look

1092
00:54:07.100 --> 00:54:10.200
<00:54:07.100>at <00:54:07.380>the <00:54:07.660>reason <00:54:07.940>and <00:54:08.220>to <00:54:08.500>see

1093
00:54:10.200 --> 00:54:13.600
<00:54:10.200>what <00:54:10.355>you <00:54:10.511>can <00:54:10.666>do <00:54:10.822>with <00:54:10.977>that <00:54:11.133>instead <00:54:11.288>of <00:54:11.444>looking <00:54:11.600>to

1094
00:54:13.600 --> 00:54:16.600
<00:54:13.600>the <00:54:13.755>money <00:54:13.911>side. <00:54:14.066>I <00:54:14.222>mean <00:54:14.377>money <00:54:14.533>might <00:54:14.688>be <00:54:14.844>some <00:54:15.000>time

1095
00:54:16.600 --> 00:54:19.200
<00:54:16.600>limiting <00:54:16.833>factor, <00:54:17.066>but <00:54:17.299>money <00:54:17.533>should <00:54:17.766>not <00:54:18.000>be

1096
00:54:19.200 --> 00:54:22.000
<00:54:19.200>the <00:54:19.355>driving <00:54:19.511>factor <00:54:19.666>or <00:54:19.822>the <00:54:19.977>reason <00:54:20.133>why <00:54:20.288>you <00:54:20.444>do <00:54:20.600>something.

1097
00:54:22.900 --> 00:54:25.500
<00:54:22.900>And <00:54:23.133>as <00:54:23.366>far <00:54:23.600>as <00:54:23.833>I <00:54:24.066>understood <00:54:24.300>at

1098
00:54:25.500 --> 00:54:25.700
<00:54:25.500>the <00:54:25.680>moment.

1099
00:54:27.400 --> 00:54:31.000
<00:54:27.400>Really <00:54:27.600>the <00:54:27.800>the <00:54:28.000>topic <00:54:28.200>is <00:54:28.400>driven. <00:54:28.600>The <00:54:28.800>experts

1100
00:54:30.300 --> 00:54:33.200
<00:54:30.300>are <00:54:30.533>driving. <00:54:30.766>It's <00:54:31.000>it's <00:54:31.233>in <00:54:31.466>this <00:54:31.700>area.

1101
00:54:33.200 --> 00:54:35.900
<00:54:33.200>It's <00:54:33.399>not <00:54:33.600>not <00:54:33.799>the <00:54:34.000>lobbying <00:54:34.200>and <00:54:34.399>the <00:54:34.600>money.

1102
00:54:36.500 --> 00:54:39.900
<00:54:36.500>This <00:54:36.733>is <00:54:36.966>my <00:54:37.200>personal <00:54:37.433>impression. <00:54:37.666>Hopefully <00:54:37.900>I'll

1103
00:54:39.900 --> 00:54:40.400
<00:54:39.900>be <00:54:40.350>right.

1104
00:54:41.300 --> 00:54:44.800
<00:54:41.300>And <00:54:41.416>then <00:54:41.533>there <00:54:41.650>is <00:54:41.766>a <00:54:41.883>question <00:54:42.000>how <00:54:42.116>it <00:54:42.233>is <00:54:42.350>it <00:54:42.466>in <00:54:42.583>Munich <00:54:42.700>when

1105
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:47.100
<00:54:44.800>or <00:54:45.033>why <00:54:45.266>is <00:54:45.500>a <00:54:45.733>Cyber <00:54:45.966>attack <00:54:46.200>reported?

1106
00:54:50.100 --> 00:54:53.400
<00:54:50.100>If <00:54:50.227>we <00:54:50.354>have <00:54:50.481>the <00:54:50.609>feeling <00:54:50.736>that <00:54:50.863>it's <00:54:50.990>a <00:54:51.118>Cyber <00:54:51.245>attack, <00:54:51.372>it's <00:54:51.500>reported

1107
00:54:53.400 --> 00:54:54.000
immediately.

1108
00:54:54.900 --> 00:54:57.900
<00:54:54.900>Our <00:54:55.366>grid <00:54:55.833>is <00:54:56.300>operated

1109
00:54:57.900 --> 00:55:02.000
<00:54:57.900>24 <00:54:58.180>hours <00:54:58.460>a <00:54:58.740>day. <00:54:59.020>365 <00:54:59.300>days

1110
00:55:01.400 --> 00:55:02.400
<00:55:01.400>a <00:55:02.300>year.

1111
00:55:03.100 --> 00:55:05.000
<00:55:03.100>So <00:55:03.450>there's <00:55:03.799>always <00:55:04.150>someone <00:55:04.500>present.

1112
00:55:06.100 --> 00:55:09.300
<00:55:06.100>and <00:55:06.275>when <00:55:06.450>we <00:55:06.625>have <00:55:06.799>the <00:55:06.975>feeling <00:55:07.150>that <00:55:07.325>it's <00:55:07.500>a

1113
00:55:09.300 --> 00:55:10.500
<00:55:09.300>severe <00:55:09.570>Cyber <00:55:09.840>attack <00:55:10.110>we <00:55:10.380>have

1114
00:55:11.900 --> 00:55:14.400
<00:55:11.900>Yeah, <00:55:12.180>we <00:55:12.460>have <00:55:12.740>our <00:55:13.020>plans <00:55:13.300>how

1115
00:55:14.400 --> 00:55:17.200
<00:55:14.400>we <00:55:14.633>get <00:55:14.866>people <00:55:15.100>together. <00:55:15.333>Who <00:55:15.566>do <00:55:15.800>we

1116
00:55:17.200 --> 00:55:21.300
<00:55:17.200>inform <00:55:17.375>who <00:55:17.549>is <00:55:17.725>coming <00:55:17.899>in? <00:55:18.075>So <00:55:18.250>this <00:55:18.424>this <00:55:18.600>starts

1117
00:55:20.300 --> 00:55:21.700
immediately?

1118
00:55:23.300 --> 00:55:24.500
<00:55:23.300>and <00:55:23.660>the <00:55:24.020>Y <00:55:24.380>is

1119
00:55:25.500 --> 00:55:28.900
<00:55:25.500>Actually, <00:55:25.700>if <00:55:25.900>you <00:55:26.100>see <00:55:26.300>something <00:55:26.500>up <00:55:26.700>normal <00:55:26.900>is

1120
00:55:28.900 --> 00:55:31.500
<00:55:28.900>happen <00:55:29.100>and <00:55:29.300>you <00:55:29.500>have <00:55:29.700>the <00:55:29.900>feeling <00:55:30.100>that <00:55:30.300>it

1121
00:55:31.500 --> 00:55:34.600
<00:55:31.500>could <00:55:31.700>be <00:55:31.900>a <00:55:32.100>Cyber <00:55:32.300>attack <00:55:32.500>then <00:55:32.700>the <00:55:32.900>procedure

1122
00:55:34.600 --> 00:55:37.500
<00:55:34.600>of <00:55:34.880>starting <00:55:35.160>so <00:55:35.440>it's <00:55:35.720>the <00:55:36.000>Y

1123
00:55:37.500 --> 00:55:39.600
<00:55:37.500>is <00:55:37.850>very <00:55:38.200>it's <00:55:38.550>very <00:55:38.900>different.

1124
00:55:40.600 --> 00:55:43.700
<00:55:40.600>And <00:55:40.775>the <00:55:40.950>first <00:55:41.125>step <00:55:41.299>is <00:55:41.475>for <00:55:41.650>example, <00:55:41.825>you <00:55:42.000>you

1125
00:55:43.700 --> 00:55:46.300
<00:55:43.700>call <00:55:44.049>because <00:55:44.399>the <00:55:44.750>dispatchers <00:55:45.100>which

1126
00:55:46.300 --> 00:55:48.800
<00:55:46.300>are <00:55:46.533>operating <00:55:46.766>it <00:55:47.000>if <00:55:47.233>they <00:55:47.466>have <00:55:47.700>certain.

1127
00:55:50.200 --> 00:55:53.500
<00:55:50.200>A <00:55:50.355>normal <00:55:50.511>tease <00:55:50.666>if <00:55:50.822>they <00:55:50.977>think <00:55:51.133>something <00:55:51.288>is <00:55:51.444>not <00:55:51.600>right

1128
00:55:53.500 --> 00:55:56.500
<00:55:53.500>then <00:55:53.780>we <00:55:54.060>have <00:55:54.340>our <00:55:54.620>on-call <00:55:54.900>duties

1129
00:55:56.500 --> 00:55:57.800
<00:55:56.500>and <00:55:56.792>they <00:55:57.085>call <00:55:57.377>the <00:55:57.670>expert.

1130
00:55:58.500 --> 00:56:01.300
<00:55:58.500>And <00:55:58.700>in <00:55:58.900>the <00:55:59.100>cyber <00:55:59.300>security <00:55:59.500>area <00:55:59.700>that <00:55:59.900>typical

1131
00:56:01.300 --> 00:56:05.000
<00:56:01.300>is <00:56:01.475>the <00:56:01.650>expert <00:56:01.825>is <00:56:02.000>starting <00:56:02.175>the <00:56:02.350>laptop. <00:56:02.525>He's <00:56:02.700>actually

1132
00:56:04.400 --> 00:56:07.600
<00:56:04.400>via <00:56:05.100>VPN. <00:56:05.800>It's

1133
00:56:07.600 --> 00:56:09.300
<00:56:07.600>it's <00:56:07.950>stepping <00:56:08.299>in <00:56:08.650>and <00:56:09.000>having

1134
00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:13.600
<00:56:10.400>First <00:56:10.555>view <00:56:10.711>from <00:56:10.866>an <00:56:11.022>expert <00:56:11.177>if <00:56:11.333>the <00:56:11.488>expert <00:56:11.644>is <00:56:11.800>still

1135
00:56:13.600 --> 00:56:16.200
<00:56:13.600>in <00:56:14.066>in <00:56:14.533>the <00:56:15.000>in

1136
00:56:16.200 --> 00:56:19.500
<00:56:16.200>the <00:56:16.355>situation <00:56:16.511>that <00:56:16.666>he <00:56:16.822>says. <00:56:16.977>Oh, <00:56:17.133>it's <00:56:17.288>it <00:56:17.444>looks <00:56:17.600>it

1137
00:56:19.500 --> 00:56:22.300
<00:56:19.500>looks <00:56:19.733>weird. <00:56:19.966>I <00:56:20.200>can't <00:56:20.433>think <00:56:20.666>about <00:56:20.900>that.

1138
00:56:22.300 --> 00:56:25.300
<00:56:22.300>This <00:56:22.500>is <00:56:22.700>right. <00:56:22.900>Then <00:56:23.100>other <00:56:23.300>expert <00:56:23.500>are <00:56:23.700>called

1139
00:56:25.300 --> 00:56:28.600
<00:56:25.300>and <00:56:25.500>they're <00:56:25.700>going <00:56:25.900>on <00:56:26.100>site <00:56:26.300>because <00:56:26.500>on <00:56:26.700>site

1140
00:56:28.600 --> 00:56:31.400
<00:56:28.600>we <00:56:28.880>have <00:56:29.160>certain <00:56:29.440>access <00:56:29.720>possibilities. <00:56:30.000>We

1141
00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:36.000
<00:56:31.400>don't <00:56:31.600>have <00:56:31.800>from <00:56:32.000>remote <00:56:32.200>because <00:56:32.400>we <00:56:32.600>we <00:56:32.800>blocked

1142
00:56:35.100 --> 00:56:39.000
<00:56:35.100>some <00:56:35.299>of <00:56:35.500>the <00:56:35.700>remote <00:56:35.900>accesses <00:56:36.100>for <00:56:36.299>security <00:56:36.500>reasons,

1143
00:56:38.200 --> 00:56:39.400
<00:56:38.200>of <00:56:39.280>course.

1144
00:56:41.900 --> 00:56:44.700
<00:56:41.900>Okay, <00:56:42.366>then <00:56:42.833>darmiers <00:56:43.300>says

1145
00:56:44.700 --> 00:56:47.300
<00:56:44.700>maybe <00:56:44.980>a <00:56:45.259>stupid <00:56:45.540>question. <00:56:45.819>I'll <00:56:46.100>probably

1146
00:56:47.300 --> 00:56:50.900
<00:56:47.300>not <00:56:47.500>I'm <00:56:47.700>curious. <00:56:47.900>What <00:56:48.100>was <00:56:48.300>the <00:56:48.500>biggest <00:56:48.700>Cyber

1147
00:56:50.900 --> 00:56:53.800
<00:56:50.900>attack <00:56:51.133>in <00:56:51.366>Germany <00:56:51.600>until <00:56:51.833>now? <00:56:52.066>I <00:56:52.300>think

1148
00:56:53.800 --> 00:56:56.700
<00:56:53.800>the <00:56:54.033>biggest <00:56:54.266>the <00:56:54.500>biggest <00:56:54.733>attack <00:56:54.966>was <00:56:55.200>to

1149
00:56:56.700 --> 00:56:59.800
<00:56:56.700>the <00:56:56.980>bundes <00:56:57.259>councilor. <00:56:57.540>And <00:56:57.819>so <00:56:58.100>they

1150
00:56:59.800 --> 00:57:04.500
<00:56:59.800>have <00:57:00.150>been <00:57:00.500>attacked <00:57:00.850>successfully <00:57:01.200>attacked.

1151
00:57:05.700 --> 00:57:08.300
<00:57:05.700>I <00:57:05.839>think <00:57:05.980>it <00:57:06.120>was <00:57:06.259>five <00:57:06.399>years <00:57:06.540>ago <00:57:06.680>or <00:57:06.819>something <00:57:06.960>like <00:57:07.100>that.

1152
00:57:09.900 --> 00:57:12.300
<00:57:09.900>And <00:57:10.100>in <00:57:10.300>Berlin <00:57:10.500>they <00:57:10.700>have <00:57:10.900>been <00:57:11.100>down <00:57:11.300>for

1153
00:57:12.300 --> 00:57:15.900
<00:57:12.300>for <00:57:12.440>some <00:57:12.580>weeks <00:57:12.720>or <00:57:12.860>something <00:57:13.000>like <00:57:13.140>that. <00:57:13.280>And <00:57:13.420>for <00:57:13.560>security <00:57:13.700>reasons,

1154
00:57:15.900 --> 00:57:18.300
<00:57:15.900>they <00:57:16.100>build <00:57:16.300>up <00:57:16.500>the <00:57:16.700>complete <00:57:16.900>Network <00:57:17.100>new <00:57:17.300>because

1155
00:57:18.300 --> 00:57:19.300
<00:57:18.300>they <00:57:18.600>were <00:57:18.900>not <00:57:19.200>sure.

1156
00:57:20.100 --> 00:57:23.000
<00:57:20.100>How <00:57:20.240>Deep <00:57:20.380>The <00:57:20.520>attacker <00:57:20.660>were <00:57:20.799>in <00:57:20.940>the <00:57:21.080>system <00:57:21.220>and <00:57:21.360>this <00:57:21.500>was

1157
00:57:23.300 --> 00:57:23.800
<00:57:23.300>quite <00:57:23.750>a

1158
00:57:24.500 --> 00:57:28.000
<00:57:24.500>This <00:57:24.700>was <00:57:24.900>quite <00:57:25.100>enlarge <00:57:25.300>issue <00:57:25.500>and <00:57:25.700>cost <00:57:25.900>a

1159
00:57:27.100 --> 00:57:30.600
<00:57:27.100>lot <00:57:27.299>of <00:57:27.500>money <00:57:27.700>and <00:57:27.900>they <00:57:28.100>afterwards <00:57:28.299>stepped <00:57:28.500>up

1160
00:57:30.600 --> 00:57:32.100
<00:57:30.600>whether <00:57:31.049>the <00:57:31.500>security <00:57:31.950>measures.

1161
00:57:34.300 --> 00:57:37.700
<00:57:34.300>Of <00:57:34.475>all <00:57:34.650>the <00:57:34.825>people <00:57:35.000>working <00:57:35.175>in <00:57:35.350>for <00:57:35.525>for <00:57:35.700>the

1162
00:57:37.700 --> 00:57:39.400
<00:57:37.700>yeah <00:57:38.166>for <00:57:38.633>the <00:57:39.100>government.

1163
00:57:43.300 --> 00:57:43.800
<00:57:43.300>Okay, <00:57:43.750>so

1164
00:57:44.500 --> 00:57:45.200
<00:57:44.500>I <00:57:44.815>would <00:57:45.129>be

1165
00:57:46.500 --> 00:57:49.400
<00:57:46.500>11 <00:57:46.733>o'clock. <00:57:46.966>Oh <00:57:47.200>my <00:57:47.433>God, <00:57:47.666>I <00:57:47.900>would

1166
00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:53.700
<00:57:49.400>be <00:57:49.575>it <00:57:49.750>took <00:57:49.925>longer <00:57:50.100>than <00:57:50.275>expected <00:57:50.450>but <00:57:50.625>nevertheless <00:57:50.800>maybe

1167
00:57:52.700 --> 00:57:55.400
<00:57:52.700>some <00:57:53.166>some <00:57:53.633>discussions <00:57:54.100>is

1168
00:57:55.400 --> 00:57:58.300
<00:57:55.400>some <00:57:55.633>discussion <00:57:55.866>is <00:57:56.100>ongoing <00:57:56.333>and <00:57:56.566>maybe <00:57:56.800>some

1169
00:57:58.300 --> 00:58:01.500
<00:57:58.300>questions <00:57:58.580>if <00:57:58.860>I <00:57:59.140>if <00:57:59.420>I <00:57:59.700>missed

1170
00:58:01.500 --> 00:58:02.500
<00:58:01.500>one <00:58:01.725>of <00:58:01.950>the <00:58:02.175>questions <00:58:02.400>it

1171
00:58:03.200 --> 00:58:07.100
<00:58:03.200>Please <00:58:03.316>put <00:58:03.433>it <00:58:03.549>in <00:58:03.666>this <00:58:03.783>in <00:58:03.899>the <00:58:04.016>chat <00:58:04.133>again. <00:58:04.250>It <00:58:04.366>was <00:58:04.483>probably <00:58:04.600>difficult

1172
00:58:06.100 --> 00:58:09.300
<00:58:06.100>for <00:58:06.333>me <00:58:06.566>to <00:58:06.799>have <00:58:07.033>a <00:58:07.266>few <00:58:07.500>on

1173
00:58:09.300 --> 00:58:12.200
<00:58:09.300>the <00:58:09.455>slide <00:58:09.611>on <00:58:09.766>on <00:58:09.922>the <00:58:10.077>question. <00:58:10.233>So <00:58:10.388>I <00:58:10.544>try <00:58:10.700>to

1174
00:58:12.200 --> 00:58:14.000
<00:58:12.200>answer <00:58:12.399>every <00:58:12.600>question <00:58:12.799>as <00:58:13.000>good <00:58:13.200>as <00:58:13.399>I <00:58:13.600>can.

1175
00:58:21.200 --> 00:58:22.400
<00:58:21.200>Good. <00:58:21.740>Hello <00:58:22.280>again?

1176
00:58:23.700 --> 00:58:26.700
<00:58:23.700>Thank <00:58:23.855>you. <00:58:24.011>Thanks <00:58:24.166>so <00:58:24.322>much <00:58:24.477>for <00:58:24.633>all <00:58:24.788>the <00:58:24.944>input <00:58:25.100>was

1177
00:58:26.700 --> 00:58:29.500
<00:58:26.700>really <00:58:26.980>interesting <00:58:27.259>the <00:58:27.540>information <00:58:27.819>with <00:58:28.100>the

1178
00:58:29.500 --> 00:58:32.400
<00:58:29.500>attack <00:58:29.627>on <00:58:29.754>the <00:58:29.881>Bulls <00:58:30.009>counseland. <00:58:30.136>I <00:58:30.263>never <00:58:30.390>heard <00:58:30.518>of <00:58:30.645>this <00:58:30.772>was <00:58:30.900>this

1179
00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:35.600
<00:58:32.400>like <00:58:32.540>a <00:58:32.680>bit <00:58:32.820>more <00:58:32.960>downplay <00:58:33.100>maybe <00:58:33.240>in <00:58:33.380>the <00:58:33.520>news. <00:58:33.660>Do <00:58:33.800>you

1180
00:58:35.600 --> 00:58:36.000
<00:58:35.600>remember <00:58:35.960>this?

1181
00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:39.600
<00:58:36.800>Ah, <00:58:37.033>it's <00:58:37.266>no <00:58:37.500>it <00:58:37.733>was <00:58:37.966>like <00:58:38.200>you

1182
00:58:39.600 --> 00:58:42.800
<00:58:39.600>heard <00:58:39.775>it <00:58:39.950>for <00:58:40.125>two <00:58:40.299>or <00:58:40.475>three <00:58:40.650>days <00:58:40.825>and <00:58:41.000>and

1183
00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:45.300
<00:58:42.800>then <00:58:43.033>of <00:58:43.266>course <00:58:43.500>there <00:58:43.733>was <00:58:43.966>very <00:58:44.200>very

1184
00:58:45.300 --> 00:58:49.100
<00:58:45.300>little <00:58:45.500>information <00:58:45.700>out. <00:58:45.900>So <00:58:46.100>the <00:58:46.300>background <00:58:46.500>why <00:58:46.700>what

1185
00:58:48.100 --> 00:58:51.400
<00:58:48.100>when <00:58:48.450>and <00:58:48.799>and <00:58:49.150>precise <00:58:49.500>information

1186
00:58:51.400 --> 00:58:55.000
<00:58:51.400>they <00:58:51.600>didn't <00:58:51.800>step <00:58:52.000>it <00:58:52.200>out <00:58:52.400>and <00:58:52.600>like <00:58:52.800>in

1187
00:58:54.500 --> 00:58:58.100
<00:58:54.500>the <00:58:54.675>Press <00:58:54.850>if <00:58:55.025>you <00:58:55.200>don't <00:58:55.375>have <00:58:55.550>new <00:58:55.725>information <00:58:55.900>nothing

1188
00:58:57.100 --> 00:59:01.200
<00:58:57.100>is <00:58:57.299>older <00:58:57.500>than <00:58:57.700>the <00:58:57.900>newspaper <00:58:58.100>from <00:58:58.299>yesterday. <00:58:58.500>It's

1189
00:59:00.200 --> 00:59:03.600
<00:59:00.200>it <00:59:00.666>was <00:59:01.133>after <00:59:01.600>two

1190
00:59:03.600 --> 00:59:06.200
<00:59:03.600>three <00:59:03.755>days. <00:59:03.911>It <00:59:04.066>was <00:59:04.222>out <00:59:04.377>of <00:59:04.533>the <00:59:04.688>out <00:59:04.844>of <00:59:05.000>the

1191
00:59:06.200 --> 00:59:10.800
<00:59:06.200>news <00:59:06.399>and <00:59:06.600>so <00:59:06.799>it <00:59:07.000>was <00:59:07.200>probably <00:59:07.399>not <00:59:07.600>present

1192
00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:13.100
<00:59:10.800>to <00:59:11.150>everybody <00:59:11.500>but <00:59:11.850>it <00:59:12.200>was

1193
00:59:14.300 --> 00:59:17.300
<00:59:14.300>it <00:59:14.427>was <00:59:14.554>because <00:59:14.681>it's <00:59:14.809>in <00:59:14.936>the <00:59:15.063>heart <00:59:15.190>of <00:59:15.318>Germany <00:59:15.445>when <00:59:15.572>he <00:59:15.700>did

1194
00:59:17.300 --> 00:59:20.900
<00:59:17.300>directly <00:59:17.475>attacked <00:59:17.650>the <00:59:17.825>governmental <00:59:18.000>then <00:59:18.175>it <00:59:18.350>was <00:59:18.525>really <00:59:18.700>I

1195
00:59:20.900 --> 00:59:22.000
<00:59:20.900>was <00:59:21.230>shocking <00:59:21.560>a <00:59:21.890>bit.

1196
00:59:23.700 --> 00:59:26.700
<00:59:23.700>But <00:59:23.807>it <00:59:23.915>would <00:59:24.023>have <00:59:24.130>to <00:59:24.238>to <00:59:24.346>have <00:59:24.453>a <00:59:24.561>look <00:59:24.669>into <00:59:24.776>the <00:59:24.884>Google <00:59:24.992>when <00:59:25.100>it

1197
00:59:26.700 --> 00:59:29.700
<00:59:26.700>was <00:59:26.933>when <00:59:27.166>it <00:59:27.399>happened <00:59:27.633>precisely. <00:59:27.866>Yeah, <00:59:28.100>I

1198
00:59:29.700 --> 00:59:33.200
<00:59:29.700>will <00:59:30.166>definitely <00:59:30.633>and <00:59:31.100>but

1199
00:59:32.200 --> 00:59:35.700
<00:59:32.200>do <00:59:32.433>you <00:59:32.666>yourself <00:59:32.899>have <00:59:33.133>any <00:59:33.366>clue <00:59:33.600>or

1200
00:59:35.700 --> 00:59:39.000
<00:59:35.700>any <00:59:35.980>guess <00:59:36.259>educated <00:59:36.540>guess <00:59:36.819>who <00:59:37.100>could

1201
00:59:38.200 --> 00:59:42.700
<00:59:38.200>could <00:59:38.480>have <00:59:38.759>had <00:59:39.040>them <00:59:39.319>who <00:59:39.600>would

1202
00:59:41.700 --> 00:59:43.500
<00:59:41.700>be <00:59:42.399>most <00:59:43.100>beneficial?

1203
00:59:45.200 --> 00:59:46.300
<00:59:45.200>I <00:59:45.695>I <00:59:46.190>mean

1204
00:59:47.300 --> 00:59:50.200
<00:59:47.300>Did <00:59:47.533>the <00:59:47.766>question <00:59:48.000>is <00:59:48.233>what <00:59:48.466>you <00:59:48.700>said

1205
00:59:50.200 --> 00:59:53.400
<00:59:50.200>if <00:59:50.339>you <00:59:50.480>start <00:59:50.620>from <00:59:50.759>from <00:59:50.899>from <00:59:51.040>the <00:59:51.180>back <00:59:51.319>side <00:59:51.460>and <00:59:51.600>who

1206
00:59:53.400 --> 00:59:56.300
<00:59:53.400>who <00:59:53.555>is <00:59:53.711>better <00:59:53.866>for <00:59:54.022>which <00:59:54.177>party <00:59:54.333>it <00:59:54.488>would <00:59:54.644>be <00:59:54.800>beneficial?

1207
00:59:57.100 --> 01:00:00.900
<00:59:57.100>Then <00:59:57.380>typical <00:59:57.660>it's <00:59:57.940>it's <00:59:58.220>the <00:59:58.500>security

1208
01:00:00.900 --> 01:00:03.300
<01:00:00.900>of <01:00:01.180>another <01:00:01.460>country. <01:00:01.740>So <01:00:02.020>the <01:00:02.300>government

1209
01:00:03.300 --> 01:00:06.800
<01:00:03.300>of <01:00:03.455>another <01:00:03.611>country <01:00:03.766>wanted <01:00:03.922>to <01:00:04.077>have <01:00:04.233>more <01:00:04.388>detailed <01:00:04.544>information <01:00:04.700>and

1210
01:00:09.200 --> 01:00:12.300
<01:00:09.200>Starting <01:00:09.339>from <01:00:09.480>that <01:00:09.620>point <01:00:09.759>it's <01:00:09.899>getting <01:00:10.040>now <01:00:10.180>difficult <01:00:10.319>because <01:00:10.460>we <01:00:10.600>saw

1211
01:00:12.300 --> 01:00:15.900
<01:00:12.300>that <01:00:12.475>also <01:00:12.650>the <01:00:12.825>United <01:00:13.000>States <01:00:13.175>had <01:00:13.350>some <01:00:13.525>interest <01:00:13.700>in

1212
01:00:15.900 --> 01:00:19.500
<01:00:15.900>more <01:00:16.133>detailed <01:00:16.366>information <01:00:16.600>from <01:00:16.833>Germany, <01:00:17.066>but <01:00:17.300>some

1213
01:00:18.500 --> 01:00:21.000
<01:00:18.500>people <01:00:18.850>told <01:00:19.200>us <01:00:19.550>it <01:00:19.900>might

1214
01:00:21.200 --> 01:00:21.700
<01:00:21.200>be <01:00:21.649>Russia.

1215
01:00:22.600 --> 01:00:25.500
<01:00:22.600>Might <01:00:22.775>be <01:00:22.950>Chinese <01:00:23.125>but <01:00:23.299>this <01:00:23.475>is <01:00:23.650>all <01:00:23.825>in <01:00:24.000>in

1216
01:00:25.500 --> 01:00:27.000
<01:00:25.500>some <01:00:25.837>area <01:00:26.175>of <01:00:26.512>an <01:00:26.850>expectation.

1217
01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:30.900
<01:00:27.800>Or <01:00:28.266>of <01:00:28.733>a <01:00:29.200>personal

1218
01:00:30.900 --> 01:00:33.500
<01:00:30.900>view <01:00:31.250>probably <01:00:31.600>and <01:00:31.950>the <01:00:32.300>governmental.

1219
01:00:35.100 --> 01:00:39.500
<01:00:35.100>They <01:00:35.255>never <01:00:35.411>they <01:00:35.566>never <01:00:35.722>stated <01:00:35.877>who <01:00:36.033>it <01:00:36.188>was <01:00:36.344>in <01:00:36.500>if

1220
01:00:38.500 --> 01:00:41.100
<01:00:38.500>they <01:00:38.780>have <01:00:39.060>an <01:00:39.340>idea <01:00:39.620>if <01:00:39.900>they

1221
01:00:41.100 --> 01:00:44.400
<01:00:41.100>have <01:00:41.299>some <01:00:41.500>hints <01:00:41.700>about <01:00:41.900>that. <01:00:42.100>They <01:00:42.299>never <01:00:42.500>made

1222
01:00:44.400 --> 01:00:47.600
<01:00:44.400>it <01:00:44.575>public <01:00:44.750>because <01:00:44.925>it's <01:00:45.100>also <01:00:45.275>if <01:00:45.450>you <01:00:45.625>if <01:00:45.800>you

1223
01:00:47.600 --> 01:00:50.700
<01:00:47.600>accuse <01:00:47.880>another <01:00:48.160>state <01:00:48.440>you <01:00:48.720>you <01:00:49.000>attacked

1224
01:00:50.700 --> 01:00:53.800
<01:00:50.700>me <01:00:51.166>proof <01:00:51.633>might <01:00:52.100>be

1225
01:00:53.800 --> 01:00:54.900
<01:00:53.800>difficult <01:00:54.130>then <01:00:54.460>after <01:00:54.790>it.

1226
01:00:56.300 --> 01:00:59.900
<01:00:56.300>Better <01:00:56.533>not. <01:00:56.766>All <01:00:57.000>right, <01:00:57.233>could <01:00:57.466>we <01:00:57.700>already

1227
01:00:59.900 --> 01:01:02.500
<01:00:59.900>heard <01:01:00.180>so <01:01:00.460>much <01:01:00.740>technical <01:01:01.020>stuff <01:01:01.300>from

1228
01:01:02.500 --> 01:01:05.100
<01:01:02.500>you <01:01:02.733>today? <01:01:02.966>But <01:01:03.200>actually <01:01:03.433>another <01:01:03.666>colleague <01:01:03.900>of

1229
01:01:05.100 --> 01:01:08.600
<01:01:05.100>you <01:01:05.255>is <01:01:05.411>training <01:01:05.566>us <01:01:05.722>today <01:01:05.877>Elizabeth <01:01:06.033>who <01:01:06.188>is <01:01:06.344>a <01:01:06.500>tea

1230
01:01:08.600 --> 01:01:11.900
<01:01:08.600>recruiter <01:01:08.833>at <01:01:09.066>Charter <01:01:09.299>communic. <01:01:09.533>So <01:01:09.766>and <01:01:10.000>let's

1231
01:01:11.900 --> 01:01:13.300
<01:01:11.900>welcome <01:01:12.215>here <01:01:12.530>also <01:01:12.845>on <01:01:13.160>stage.

1232
01:01:14.700 --> 01:01:17.600
<01:01:14.700>Hello, <01:01:15.166>Elizabeth. <01:01:15.633>Hello. <01:01:16.100>Hello

1233
01:01:17.600 --> 01:01:18.600
<01:01:17.600>to <01:01:18.500>everybody.

1234
01:01:20.300 --> 01:01:22.700
<01:01:20.300>Hello. <01:01:20.500>Thank <01:01:20.700>you <01:01:20.900>so <01:01:21.100>much <01:01:21.300>for <01:01:21.500>joining <01:01:21.700>and

1235
01:01:24.200 --> 01:01:27.600
<01:01:24.200>You <01:01:24.375>already <01:01:24.549>talked <01:01:24.725>so <01:01:24.899>much <01:01:25.075>about <01:01:25.250>good <01:01:25.424>better <01:01:25.600>to

1236
01:01:27.600 --> 01:01:31.200
<01:01:27.600>say <01:01:27.755>could <01:01:27.911>could <01:01:28.066>hold <01:01:28.222>us <01:01:28.377>so <01:01:28.533>much <01:01:28.688>about <01:01:28.844>cyber <01:01:29.000>security

1237
01:01:31.200 --> 01:01:34.200
<01:01:31.200>and <01:01:31.480>maybe <01:01:31.759>let's <01:01:32.040>start <01:01:32.319>also <01:01:32.600>a

1238
01:01:34.200 --> 01:01:37.600
<01:01:34.200>bit <01:01:34.327>from <01:01:34.454>your <01:01:34.581>perspective <01:01:34.709>of <01:01:34.836>the <01:01:34.963>company. <01:01:35.090>You <01:01:35.218>are <01:01:35.345>also <01:01:35.472>at <01:01:35.600>traffic

1239
01:01:37.600 --> 01:01:41.200
<01:01:37.600>and <01:01:37.880>it <01:01:38.160>recruitment <01:01:38.440>recruitment. <01:01:38.720>Maybe <01:01:39.000>you

1240
01:01:40.200 --> 01:01:43.400
<01:01:40.200>want <01:01:40.375>to <01:01:40.549>tell <01:01:40.725>us <01:01:40.899>a <01:01:41.075>bit <01:01:41.250>about <01:01:41.424>more <01:01:41.600>about

1241
01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:46.900
<01:01:43.400>the <01:01:43.575>jobs <01:01:43.750>chop <01:01:43.925>positions. <01:01:44.100>You're <01:01:44.275>offering <01:01:44.450>right <01:01:44.625>now <01:01:44.800>some

1242
01:01:46.900 --> 01:01:49.700
<01:01:46.900>shop <01:01:47.100>description <01:01:47.300>or <01:01:47.500>maybe <01:01:47.700>even <01:01:47.900>like <01:01:48.100>day <01:01:48.300>to

1243
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Yeah.

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again.

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<01:06:44.300>home <01:06:44.580>office. <01:06:44.860>Yes, <01:06:45.140>that's <01:06:45.420>possible. <01:06:45.700>And

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was

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<01:07:18.100>up <01:07:18.333>to <01:07:18.566>Corona. <01:07:18.799>We <01:07:19.033>had <01:07:19.266>these <01:07:19.500>policy

1352
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<01:07:21.900>this <01:07:22.100>remote <01:07:22.300>policy. <01:07:22.500>So <01:07:22.700>it's <01:07:22.900>not <01:07:23.100>totally <01:07:23.300>new

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<01:07:27.600>to <01:07:27.761>it <01:07:27.924>and <01:07:28.086>we <01:07:28.248>like <01:07:28.410>it.

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Yeah.

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<01:07:32.100>Yeah, <01:07:32.640>maybe <01:07:33.180>some.

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<01:07:46.700>really <01:07:46.933>if <01:07:47.166>you're <01:07:47.399>we <01:07:47.633>have <01:07:47.866>personal <01:07:48.100>or

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1364
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1367
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<01:08:04.600>Munich <01:08:04.950>there. <01:08:05.299>There <01:08:05.650>is <01:08:06.000>no

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<01:08:10.700>don't <01:08:12.100>have

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<01:08:13.200>to <01:08:13.399>possibility <01:08:13.600>to <01:08:13.799>work <01:08:14.000>from <01:08:14.200>from <01:08:14.399>home <01:08:14.600>office.

1371
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<01:08:17.600>But <01:08:17.775>still <01:08:17.950>even <01:08:18.125>being <01:08:18.300>in <01:08:18.475>such <01:08:18.650>a <01:08:18.825>position <01:08:19.000>you

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1373
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<01:08:23.600>where <01:08:23.755>you <01:08:23.911>need <01:08:24.066>to <01:08:24.222>have <01:08:24.377>some <01:08:24.533>analysis. <01:08:24.688>So <01:08:24.844>these <01:08:25.000>are

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<01:08:26.100>positions <01:08:26.275>where <01:08:26.450>you <01:08:26.625>have <01:08:26.800>maybe <01:08:26.975>four <01:08:27.150>days <01:08:27.325>three <01:08:27.500>to

1375
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1376
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<01:08:35.399>and <01:08:35.516>then <01:08:35.633>you <01:08:35.750>have <01:08:35.866>about <01:08:35.983>one <01:08:36.099>or <01:08:36.216>one <01:08:36.333>and <01:08:36.450>a <01:08:36.566>half <01:08:36.683>days <01:08:36.799>where

1378
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<01:08:38.300>you <01:08:38.569>have <01:08:38.840>home <01:08:39.109>office.

1379
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<01:08:39.899>On <01:08:40.075>the <01:08:40.250>other <01:08:40.424>hand, <01:08:40.599>like <01:08:40.774>if <01:08:40.950>you <01:08:41.125>look <01:08:41.299>we

1380
01:08:42.200 --> 01:08:45.500
<01:08:42.200>have <01:08:42.433>the <01:08:42.666>the <01:08:42.899>experts <01:08:43.133>for <01:08:43.366>it <01:08:43.599>security

1381
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<01:08:45.500>or <01:08:45.733>the <01:08:45.966>the <01:08:46.200>manager <01:08:46.433>for <01:08:46.666>ITC <01:08:46.899>security

1382
01:08:48.100 --> 01:08:51.500
<01:08:48.100>or <01:08:48.566>my <01:08:49.033>work <01:08:49.500>when

1383
01:08:51.500 --> 01:08:55.900
<01:08:51.500>I <01:08:51.700>go <01:08:51.899>with <01:08:52.100>this <01:08:52.300>with <01:08:52.500>the <01:08:52.700>guidelines <01:08:52.899>in

1384
01:08:54.900 --> 01:08:57.700
<01:08:54.899>principle, <01:08:55.133>you <01:08:55.366>can <01:08:55.599>do <01:08:55.833>it <01:08:56.066>on <01:08:56.299>100%

1385
01:08:57.700 --> 01:09:00.600
<01:08:57.700>from <01:08:57.933>remote. <01:08:58.166>So <01:08:58.399>there <01:08:58.633>is <01:08:58.866>no <01:08:59.099>limitation

1386
01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:03.400
<01:09:00.600>on <01:09:00.880>that <01:09:01.160>and <01:09:01.440>and <01:09:01.720>there <01:09:02.000>is

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01:09:03.400 --> 01:09:07.300
<01:09:03.399>like <01:09:03.679>like <01:09:03.960>Elizabeth <01:09:04.240>said <01:09:04.519>sometimes <01:09:04.799>we

1388
01:09:07.300 --> 01:09:10.200
<01:09:07.300>are <01:09:07.475>calling <01:09:07.650>each <01:09:07.825>other. <01:09:08.000>They <01:09:08.175>when <01:09:08.350>are <01:09:08.525>you <01:09:08.700>next

1389
01:09:10.200 --> 01:09:13.400
<01:09:10.200>week <01:09:10.340>in <01:09:10.479>the <01:09:10.620>office? <01:09:10.760>It's <01:09:10.899>like <01:09:11.040>Tuesday <01:09:11.179>or <01:09:11.319>Wednesday. <01:09:11.460>And <01:09:11.599>yeah,

1390
01:09:13.400 --> 01:09:18.000
<01:09:13.399>I <01:09:13.540>will <01:09:13.679>be <01:09:13.819>there. <01:09:13.960>Yeah, <01:09:14.099>I'm <01:09:14.240>coming <01:09:14.379>also <01:09:14.519>and <01:09:14.660>like <01:09:14.799>in

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<01:09:16.100>my <01:09:16.450>department <01:09:16.800>we <01:09:17.150>are <01:09:17.500>on

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01:09:19.300 --> 01:09:22.400
<01:09:19.300>Wednesday. <01:09:19.475>We <01:09:19.650>have <01:09:19.825>our <01:09:20.000>department <01:09:20.175>meeting <01:09:20.350>and <01:09:20.525>it <01:09:20.700>turned

1393
01:09:22.400 --> 01:09:25.300
<01:09:22.399>out <01:09:22.633>that <01:09:22.866>Wednesday <01:09:23.099>is <01:09:23.333>is <01:09:23.566>80% <01:09:23.799>of

1394
01:09:25.300 --> 01:09:28.600
<01:09:25.300>the <01:09:25.475>people <01:09:25.650>and <01:09:25.825>stay <01:09:26.000>in <01:09:26.175>the <01:09:26.350>office <01:09:26.525>because <01:09:26.700>everyone

1395
01:09:28.600 --> 01:09:31.200
<01:09:28.600>likes <01:09:28.727>to <01:09:28.854>see <01:09:28.981>the <01:09:29.109>other <01:09:29.236>one <01:09:29.363>and <01:09:29.490>say <01:09:29.618>okay, <01:09:29.745>let's <01:09:29.872>have <01:09:30.000>a

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01:09:31.200 --> 01:09:34.200
<01:09:31.200>coffee <01:09:31.433>there. <01:09:31.666>It's <01:09:31.899>it's <01:09:32.133>and <01:09:32.366>it's <01:09:32.599>really

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01:09:34.200 --> 01:09:37.000
<01:09:34.200>people <01:09:34.666>are <01:09:35.133>organizing <01:09:35.599>themselves.

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<01:09:38.899>Yeah, <01:09:39.133>I <01:09:39.366>totally <01:09:39.599>understand <01:09:39.833>the <01:09:40.066>aspect <01:09:40.299>also

1399
01:09:41.800 --> 01:09:44.200
<01:09:41.800>of <01:09:41.975>meeting <01:09:42.150>the <01:09:42.325>team <01:09:42.500>members <01:09:42.675>especially <01:09:42.850>if <01:09:43.025>it's <01:09:43.200>like

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<01:09:44.200>such <01:09:44.666>an <01:09:45.133>familiarie <01:09:45.599>atmosphere,

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01:09:47.700 --> 01:09:50.200
<01:09:47.700>but <01:09:48.399>Corona <01:09:49.099>also

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<01:09:50.200>showed <01:09:50.340>us <01:09:50.479>that <01:09:50.620>it <01:09:50.760>can <01:09:50.899>really <01:09:51.040>work <01:09:51.179>out <01:09:51.319>with <01:09:51.460>remote <01:09:51.599>shops.

1403
01:09:53.300 --> 01:09:57.100
<01:09:53.300>So <01:09:53.533>you <01:09:53.766>can <01:09:54.000>also <01:09:54.233>like <01:09:54.466>recruit <01:09:54.700>people

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<01:09:56.100>from <01:09:56.450>other <01:09:56.800>countries, <01:09:57.150>for <01:09:57.500>example

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<01:10:00.300>So <01:10:00.500>I'm <01:10:00.700>really <01:10:00.900>liked <01:10:01.100>it. <01:10:01.300>Actually <01:10:01.500>the <01:10:01.700>next

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<01:10:03.300>another <01:10:03.455>question <01:10:03.611>is <01:10:03.766>kind <01:10:03.922>of <01:10:04.077>related <01:10:04.233>to <01:10:04.388>that <01:10:04.544>because <01:10:04.700>as

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<01:10:06.400>art <01:10:06.540>wants <01:10:06.679>to <01:10:06.820>know <01:10:06.960>is <01:10:07.099>there <01:10:07.240>any <01:10:07.379>opening <01:10:07.519>for <01:10:07.660>English <01:10:07.799>speakers

1408
01:10:09.700 --> 01:10:12.100
<01:10:09.700>in <01:10:10.166>the <01:10:10.633>shop <01:10:11.099>decimation?

1409
01:10:13.500 --> 01:10:17.100
<01:10:13.500>That's <01:10:13.780>a <01:10:14.060>very <01:10:14.340>interesting <01:10:14.620>question. <01:10:14.900>Thank

1410
01:10:16.100 --> 01:10:19.800
<01:10:16.100>you <01:10:16.333>very <01:10:16.566>much <01:10:16.800>for <01:10:17.033>this <01:10:17.266>as <01:10:17.500>you

1411
01:10:19.800 --> 01:10:22.200
<01:10:19.800>probably <01:10:19.975>know. <01:10:20.150>We <01:10:20.325>are <01:10:20.500>a <01:10:20.675>drum <01:10:20.850>and <01:10:21.025>speaking <01:10:21.200>company.

1412
01:10:22.200 --> 01:10:25.300
<01:10:22.200>I <01:10:22.400>have <01:10:22.599>to <01:10:22.800>say <01:10:23.000>this, <01:10:23.200>but <01:10:23.400>we <01:10:23.599>are

1413
01:10:25.300 --> 01:10:28.400
<01:10:25.300>today <01:10:25.500>here <01:10:25.700>and <01:10:25.900>we <01:10:26.100>speak <01:10:26.300>German <01:10:26.500>we <01:10:26.700>speak

1414
01:10:28.400 --> 01:10:30.300
<01:10:28.400>English <01:10:28.633>and <01:10:28.866>so <01:10:29.099>it <01:10:29.333>is <01:10:29.566>possible <01:10:29.799>but

1415
01:10:31.900 --> 01:10:35.300
<01:10:31.900>Um, <01:10:32.099>we <01:10:32.299>like <01:10:32.500>to <01:10:32.700>recruit <01:10:32.900>people <01:10:33.099>who <01:10:33.299>speak

1416
01:10:35.300 --> 01:10:38.900
<01:10:35.300>other <01:10:35.533>languages, <01:10:35.766>but <01:10:36.000>who <01:10:36.233>want <01:10:36.466>to <01:10:36.700>speak

1417
01:10:38.900 --> 01:10:41.600
<01:10:38.900>German <01:10:39.179>and <01:10:39.460>to <01:10:39.740>learn <01:10:40.019>German <01:10:40.299>and

1418
01:10:41.600 --> 01:10:44.900
<01:10:41.600>we <01:10:41.800>support <01:10:42.000>them. <01:10:42.200>We <01:10:42.400>have <01:10:42.600>German <01:10:42.800>language <01:10:43.000>courses

1419
01:10:44.900 --> 01:10:47.500
<01:10:44.900>and <01:10:45.133>we <01:10:45.366>will <01:10:45.599>give <01:10:45.833>every <01:10:46.066>help <01:10:46.299>on

1420
01:10:47.500 --> 01:10:50.900
<01:10:47.500>every <01:10:47.655>support <01:10:47.811>but <01:10:47.966>there <01:10:48.122>have <01:10:48.277>to <01:10:48.433>be <01:10:48.588>the <01:10:48.744>willingness <01:10:48.900>to

1421
01:10:50.900 --> 01:10:54.400
<01:10:50.900>learn <01:10:51.133>German <01:10:51.366>because <01:10:51.599>every <01:10:51.833>combination <01:10:52.066>communication <01:10:52.299>written

1422
01:10:53.400 --> 01:10:55.900
<01:10:53.400>and <01:10:53.750>spoke <01:10:54.099>is <01:10:54.450>in <01:10:54.799>German.

1423
01:10:57.600 --> 01:10:58.700
<01:10:57.600>Okay, <01:10:58.095>so <01:10:58.590>actually

1424
01:11:00.700 --> 01:11:03.300
<01:11:00.700>I <01:11:00.827>think <01:11:00.954>this <01:11:01.081>is <01:11:01.209>very <01:11:01.336>important. <01:11:01.463>Like <01:11:01.590>you <01:11:01.718>said <01:11:01.845>Elizabeth. <01:11:01.972>We <01:11:02.099>are

1425
01:11:03.300 --> 01:11:07.500
<01:11:03.300>there <01:11:03.475>that <01:11:03.650>we <01:11:03.825>are <01:11:04.000>making <01:11:04.175>steps <01:11:04.350>towards. <01:11:04.525>Yeah <01:11:04.700>a

1426
01:11:06.500 --> 01:11:09.400
<01:11:06.500>German <01:11:06.850>English <01:11:07.200>company, <01:11:07.550>but <01:11:07.900>the

1427
01:11:09.400 --> 01:11:11.100
<01:11:09.400>steps <01:11:09.599>are <01:11:09.799>at <01:11:10.000>the <01:11:10.200>very <01:11:10.400>beginning <01:11:10.599>and <01:11:10.799>so

1428
01:11:12.200 --> 01:11:15.800
<01:11:12.200>If <01:11:12.327>you <01:11:12.454>want <01:11:12.581>to <01:11:12.709>be <01:11:12.836>an <01:11:12.963>early <01:11:13.090>bird <01:11:13.218>in <01:11:13.345>this <01:11:13.472>in <01:11:13.599>this

1429
01:11:15.800 --> 01:11:18.500
<01:11:15.800>process <01:11:15.955>you <01:11:16.111>really <01:11:16.266>need <01:11:16.422>to <01:11:16.577>to <01:11:16.733>learn <01:11:16.888>German <01:11:17.044>at <01:11:17.200>this

1430
01:11:18.500 --> 01:11:18.800
<01:11:18.500>point <01:11:18.635>in <01:11:18.770>time.

1431
01:11:20.300 --> 01:11:23.300
<01:11:20.300>Okay. <01:11:20.500>So <01:11:20.700>at <01:11:20.900>this <01:11:21.100>point <01:11:21.300>German <01:11:21.500>speaking <01:11:21.700>is

1432
01:11:23.300 --> 01:11:27.400
<01:11:23.300>not <01:11:23.455>a <01:11:23.611>plus <01:11:23.766>but <01:11:23.922>it's <01:11:24.077>a <01:11:24.233>must <01:11:24.388>actually <01:11:24.544>but <01:11:24.700>maybe

1433
01:11:26.400 --> 01:11:29.500
<01:11:26.400>in <01:11:26.679>some <01:11:26.960>years <01:11:27.240>the <01:11:27.519>process <01:11:27.799>is

1434
01:11:29.500 --> 01:11:32.000
<01:11:29.500>more <01:11:30.200>adult <01:11:30.900>than

1435
01:11:33.200 --> 01:11:36.800
<01:11:33.200>maybe <01:11:33.355>you <01:11:33.511>can <01:11:33.666>also <01:11:33.822>accept <01:11:33.977>English <01:11:34.133>only. <01:11:34.288>Okay. <01:11:34.444>Perfect. <01:11:34.599>Thank

1436
01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:40.100
<01:11:36.800>you <01:11:37.000>for <01:11:37.200>that <01:11:37.400>answers. <01:11:37.600>Well <01:11:37.800>Elizabeth <01:11:38.000>and <01:11:38.200>actually

1437
01:11:39.100 --> 01:11:42.800
<01:11:39.100>Sandra <01:11:39.450>who <01:11:39.800>asked <01:11:40.150>before <01:11:40.500>about

1438
01:11:42.800 --> 01:11:45.500
<01:11:42.800>the <01:11:42.975>day <01:11:43.150>to <01:11:43.325>day <01:11:43.500>work <01:11:43.675>and <01:11:43.850>she's <01:11:44.025>asking <01:11:44.200>also

1439
01:11:45.500 --> 01:11:48.300
<01:11:45.500>about <01:11:45.627>the <01:11:45.754>team <01:11:45.881>how <01:11:46.009>big <01:11:46.136>are <01:11:46.263>the <01:11:46.390>teams <01:11:46.518>and <01:11:46.645>to <01:11:46.772>do <01:11:46.900>your

1440
01:11:48.300 --> 01:11:51.500
<01:11:48.300>work <01:11:48.533>with <01:11:48.766>scrum <01:11:49.000>or <01:11:49.233>agile <01:11:49.466>or <01:11:49.700>another

1441
01:11:51.500 --> 01:11:52.300
principle?

1442
01:11:54.300 --> 01:11:54.600
Okay.

1443
01:11:57.800 --> 01:12:00.400
<01:11:57.800>There <01:11:58.033>are <01:11:58.266>several <01:11:58.500>teams <01:11:58.733>and <01:11:58.966>I'm <01:11:59.200>looking.

1444
01:12:01.500 --> 01:12:04.500
<01:12:01.500>For <01:12:01.733>several <01:12:01.966>departments, <01:12:02.200>so <01:12:02.433>I <01:12:02.666>can't <01:12:02.900>answer

1445
01:12:04.500 --> 01:12:09.000
<01:12:04.500>the <01:12:04.780>question <01:12:05.060>about <01:12:05.340>the <01:12:05.620>the <01:12:05.900>teams.

1446
01:12:07.300 --> 01:12:10.200
<01:12:07.300>Maybe <01:12:07.766>there <01:12:08.233>are <01:12:08.700>10

1447
01:12:10.200 --> 01:12:13.300
<01:12:10.200>people. <01:12:10.375>Maybe <01:12:10.550>there <01:12:10.724>are <01:12:10.900>20 <01:12:11.075>so <01:12:11.250>it <01:12:11.425>depends <01:12:11.599>on

1448
01:12:13.300 --> 01:12:16.700
<01:12:13.300>the <01:12:13.533>department <01:12:13.766>and <01:12:14.000>there <01:12:14.233>are <01:12:14.466>several <01:12:14.700>departments

1449
01:12:16.700 --> 01:12:21.000
<01:12:16.700>and <01:12:16.933>look <01:12:17.166>around <01:12:17.400>working <01:12:17.633>for <01:12:17.866>mmm <01:12:18.099>and

1450
01:12:19.800 --> 01:12:22.300
<01:12:19.800>the <01:12:20.500>other <01:12:21.200>question

1451
01:12:22.300 --> 01:12:22.700
was

1452
01:12:24.300 --> 01:12:27.500
<01:12:24.300>And <01:12:24.580>how <01:12:24.860>your <01:12:25.140>workflow <01:12:25.420>principles <01:12:25.700>are

1453
01:12:27.500 --> 01:12:30.600
<01:12:27.500>if <01:12:27.655>you <01:12:27.811>if <01:12:27.966>you're <01:12:28.122>working <01:12:28.277>with <01:12:28.433>scrum <01:12:28.588>and <01:12:28.744>agile <01:12:28.900>system.

1454
01:12:30.600 --> 01:12:31.900
<01:12:30.600>Yeah, <01:12:31.769>okay.

1455
01:12:35.200 --> 01:12:39.200
<01:12:35.200>Working <01:12:35.327>I <01:12:35.454>was <01:12:35.581>always <01:12:35.709>a <01:12:35.836>job. <01:12:35.963>We <01:12:36.090>are <01:12:36.218>working <01:12:36.345>with <01:12:36.472>scrum. <01:12:36.599>I'm

1456
01:12:38.200 --> 01:12:42.300
<01:12:38.200>not <01:12:38.433>in <01:12:38.666>the <01:12:38.900>whole <01:12:39.133>company. <01:12:39.366>So <01:12:39.599>maybe

1457
01:12:41.300 --> 01:12:45.300
<01:12:41.300>I <01:12:41.475>have <01:12:41.650>to <01:12:41.825>say <01:12:42.000>that <01:12:42.175>we <01:12:42.350>are <01:12:42.525>11,000 <01:12:42.700>people

1458
01:12:44.300 --> 01:12:47.600
<01:12:44.300>in <01:12:44.500>our <01:12:44.700>company <01:12:44.900>and <01:12:45.100>we <01:12:45.300>have <01:12:45.500>these <01:12:45.700>different

1459
01:12:47.600 --> 01:12:51.000
<01:12:47.600>departments <01:12:47.880>like <01:12:48.160>energy <01:12:48.440>and <01:12:48.720>mobility <01:12:49.000>and

1460
01:12:50.400 --> 01:12:53.700
<01:12:50.400>maybe <01:12:51.099>as <01:12:51.799>a

1461
01:12:53.700 --> 01:12:56.200
<01:12:53.700>public <01:12:53.933>transport <01:12:54.166>and <01:12:54.400>everything <01:12:54.633>so <01:12:54.866>there <01:12:55.099>are

1462
01:12:56.200 --> 01:12:59.500
<01:12:56.200>differences <01:12:56.400>but <01:12:56.599>in <01:12:56.800>the <01:12:57.000>IT <01:12:57.200>department <01:12:57.400>and <01:12:57.599>I'm

1463
01:12:59.500 --> 01:13:02.600
<01:12:59.500>recruiting <01:12:59.733>for <01:12:59.966>the <01:13:00.200>ATT <01:13:00.433>department <01:13:00.666>where <01:13:00.900>we

1464
01:13:02.600 --> 01:13:05.300
<01:13:02.600>work <01:13:02.833>after <01:13:03.066>the <01:13:03.300>age <01:13:03.533>of <01:13:03.766>principles <01:13:04.000>we

1465
01:13:05.300 --> 01:13:08.200
<01:13:05.300>work <01:13:05.455>was <01:13:05.611>from <01:13:05.766>I'm <01:13:05.922>looking <01:13:06.077>for <01:13:06.233>scrum <01:13:06.388>also <01:13:06.544>as <01:13:06.700>well.

1466
01:13:08.200 --> 01:13:11.200
<01:13:08.200>And <01:13:08.400>so <01:13:08.599>that's <01:13:08.800>no <01:13:09.000>no <01:13:09.200>problem <01:13:09.400>for <01:13:09.599>us

1467
01:13:11.200 --> 01:13:11.900
<01:13:11.200>and <01:13:11.410>we <01:13:11.620>know <01:13:11.830>it.

1468
01:13:15.200 --> 01:13:18.200
<01:13:15.200>Right. <01:13:15.550>Maybe <01:13:15.900>could <01:13:16.250>you <01:13:16.599>can

1469
01:13:18.200 --> 01:13:21.200
<01:13:18.200>maybe <01:13:18.327>explain <01:13:18.454>how <01:13:18.581>you <01:13:18.709>deal <01:13:18.836>with <01:13:18.963>this <01:13:19.090>in <01:13:19.218>your <01:13:19.345>team? <01:13:19.472>Like <01:13:19.599>your

1470
01:13:21.200 --> 01:13:23.700
<01:13:21.200>team <01:13:21.480>size <01:13:21.760>and <01:13:22.040>how <01:13:22.320>your <01:13:22.599>workflows?

1471
01:13:24.400 --> 01:13:24.600
are

1472
01:13:25.400 --> 01:13:27.600
<01:13:25.400>yes, <01:13:25.750>okay. <01:13:26.099>I'm <01:13:26.450>more <01:13:26.799>insight.

1473
01:13:28.600 --> 01:13:31.200
<01:13:28.600>Yes, <01:13:28.755>of <01:13:28.911>course. <01:13:29.066>There <01:13:29.222>are <01:13:29.377>actually <01:13:29.533>there <01:13:29.688>are <01:13:29.844>three <01:13:30.000>teams

1474
01:13:31.200 --> 01:13:32.400
<01:13:31.200>with <01:13:31.740>a <01:13:32.280>different.

1475
01:13:34.700 --> 01:13:37.500
<01:13:34.700>Topics <01:13:34.875>and <01:13:35.050>the <01:13:35.224>one <01:13:35.400>team <01:13:35.575>is <01:13:35.750>based <01:13:35.925>on <01:13:36.099>Project

1476
01:13:37.500 --> 01:13:41.000
<01:13:37.500>managers <01:13:37.780>and <01:13:38.060>experts <01:13:38.340>like <01:13:38.620>it <01:13:38.900>experts

1477
01:13:40.200 --> 01:13:43.400
<01:13:40.200>but <01:13:40.666>also <01:13:41.133>gdpr <01:13:41.599>experts.

1478
01:13:44.600 --> 01:13:48.600
<01:13:44.600>And <01:13:44.800>this <01:13:45.000>is <01:13:45.200>our <01:13:45.400>13 <01:13:45.600>people <01:13:45.800>and <01:13:46.000>the

1479
01:13:47.600 --> 01:13:51.700
<01:13:47.600>main <01:13:47.833>things <01:13:48.066>we <01:13:48.300>are <01:13:48.533>doing <01:13:48.766>is <01:13:49.000>that

1480
01:13:50.700 --> 01:13:53.700
<01:13:50.700>we're <01:13:51.050>going <01:13:51.400>for <01:13:51.750>HL <01:13:52.099>principles.

1481
01:13:54.500 --> 01:13:57.700
<01:13:54.500>But <01:13:54.655>what <01:13:54.811>we <01:13:54.966>are <01:13:55.122>like <01:13:55.277>to <01:13:55.433>do <01:13:55.588>is <01:13:55.744>we <01:13:55.900>we

1482
01:13:57.700 --> 01:14:00.100
<01:13:57.700>first <01:13:57.933>try <01:13:58.166>to <01:13:58.400>understand <01:13:58.633>our <01:13:58.866>problems. <01:13:59.099>So

1483
01:14:00.100 --> 01:14:00.400
it's

1484
01:14:01.700 --> 01:14:05.300
<01:14:01.700>a <01:14:01.855>little <01:14:02.011>bit <01:14:02.166>like <01:14:02.322>like <01:14:02.477>in <01:14:02.633>the <01:14:02.788>design <01:14:02.944>thinking <01:14:03.099>and

1485
01:14:04.300 --> 01:14:07.100
<01:14:04.300>when <01:14:04.580>in <01:14:04.860>the <01:14:05.140>in <01:14:05.420>the <01:14:05.700>face

1486
01:14:07.100 --> 01:14:10.600
<01:14:07.100>of <01:14:07.240>understanding <01:14:07.380>the <01:14:07.520>problem <01:14:07.660>we <01:14:07.800>see <01:14:07.940>that <01:14:08.080>there <01:14:08.220>is <01:14:08.360>a <01:14:08.500>classical

1487
01:14:10.600 --> 01:14:12.500
<01:14:10.600>project <01:14:10.880>management <01:14:11.160>is <01:14:11.440>the <01:14:11.720>best <01:14:12.000>way.

1488
01:14:13.300 --> 01:14:17.000
<01:14:13.300>We <01:14:13.455>have <01:14:13.611>something <01:14:13.766>where <01:14:13.922>we <01:14:14.077>can <01:14:14.233>Define <01:14:14.388>our <01:14:14.544>our <01:14:14.700>Target

1489
01:14:16.400 --> 01:14:19.300
<01:14:16.400>very <01:14:16.599>good. <01:14:16.799>We <01:14:17.000>have <01:14:17.200>an <01:14:17.400>idea <01:14:17.599>about <01:14:17.799>the

1490
01:14:19.300 --> 01:14:21.400
<01:14:19.300>money <01:14:19.580>or <01:14:19.860>the <01:14:20.140>resources <01:14:20.420>we <01:14:20.700>need.

1491
01:14:22.200 --> 01:14:25.100
<01:14:22.200>And <01:14:22.355>maybe <01:14:22.511>we <01:14:22.666>have <01:14:22.822>done <01:14:22.977>it <01:14:23.133>already <01:14:23.288>in <01:14:23.444>the <01:14:23.599>history.

1492
01:14:26.200 --> 01:14:29.700
<01:14:26.200>Then <01:14:26.340>we <01:14:26.480>really <01:14:26.620>go <01:14:26.760>for <01:14:26.900>a <01:14:27.040>classical <01:14:27.179>project <01:14:27.320>management <01:14:27.460>and <01:14:27.599>and

1493
01:14:29.700 --> 01:14:30.800
<01:14:29.700>things <01:14:30.195>are <01:14:30.690>done.

1494
01:14:31.500 --> 01:14:34.100
<01:14:31.500>If <01:14:31.733>we <01:14:31.966>see <01:14:32.200>that <01:14:32.433>like <01:14:32.666>we <01:14:32.900>have

1495
01:14:34.100 --> 01:14:36.100
<01:14:34.100>a <01:14:34.333>product <01:14:34.566>we <01:14:34.800>have <01:14:35.033>also <01:14:35.266>we <01:14:35.500>have

1496
01:14:37.100 --> 01:14:40.800
<01:14:37.100>we <01:14:37.275>have <01:14:37.450>a <01:14:37.625>software <01:14:37.800>in-house <01:14:37.975>where <01:14:38.150>we <01:14:38.325>get <01:14:38.500>from

1497
01:14:40.800 --> 01:14:43.400
<01:14:40.800>all <01:14:41.000>our <01:14:41.200>sources <01:14:41.400>from <01:14:41.600>the <01:14:41.800>sap <01:14:42.000>from <01:14:42.200>the

1498
01:14:43.400 --> 01:14:46.900
<01:14:43.400>from <01:14:43.679>the <01:14:43.960>Geo <01:14:44.240>information <01:14:44.519>system <01:14:44.799>and

1499
01:14:46.900 --> 01:14:49.400
<01:14:46.900>from <01:14:47.179>others. <01:14:47.460>We <01:14:47.740>combine <01:14:48.019>all <01:14:48.299>this

1500
01:14:49.400 --> 01:14:53.300
<01:14:49.400>information <01:14:49.575>and <01:14:49.750>display <01:14:49.924>it <01:14:50.099>on <01:14:50.275>the <01:14:50.450>card <01:14:50.625>for <01:14:50.799>the

1501
01:14:52.300 --> 01:14:55.100
<01:14:52.300>employees <01:14:52.766>that <01:14:53.233>they <01:14:53.700>can

1502
01:14:55.100 --> 01:14:57.300
<01:14:55.100>step <01:14:55.300>into <01:14:55.500>our <01:14:55.700>choice <01:14:55.900>and <01:14:56.100>things <01:14:56.300>like <01:14:56.500>that.

1503
01:14:58.200 --> 01:15:01.200
<01:14:58.200>And <01:14:58.307>if <01:14:58.415>we <01:14:58.523>have <01:14:58.630>this <01:14:58.738>kind <01:14:58.846>of <01:14:58.953>a <01:14:59.061>product <01:14:59.169>where <01:14:59.276>you <01:14:59.384>say <01:14:59.492>you <01:14:59.599>have

1504
01:15:01.200 --> 01:15:06.000
<01:15:01.200>a <01:15:01.340>development <01:15:01.480>and <01:15:01.620>you <01:15:01.760>know <01:15:01.900>that <01:15:02.040>there <01:15:02.179>are <01:15:02.320>new <01:15:02.460>ideas <01:15:02.599>upcoming

1505
01:15:05.300 --> 01:15:08.800
<01:15:05.300>what <01:15:05.475>would <01:15:05.650>be <01:15:05.825>in <01:15:06.000>the <01:15:06.175>software <01:15:06.350>or <01:15:06.525>not, <01:15:06.700>then

1506
01:15:08.800 --> 01:15:11.100
<01:15:08.800>it's <01:15:09.080>really <01:15:09.360>something <01:15:09.640>where <01:15:09.920>we <01:15:10.200>say

1507
01:15:11.100 --> 01:15:13.200
<01:15:11.100>we <01:15:11.333>go <01:15:11.566>for <01:15:11.800>in <01:15:12.033>this <01:15:12.266>case. <01:15:12.500>It's

1508
01:15:15.300 --> 01:15:18.700
<01:15:15.300>it's <01:15:15.500>grumban. <01:15:15.700>It's <01:15:15.900>a <01:15:16.100>combination <01:15:16.300>of <01:15:16.500>scrum <01:15:16.700>and

1509
01:15:18.700 --> 01:15:22.100
<01:15:18.700>kanban <01:15:18.933>this <01:15:19.166>team <01:15:19.400>uses. <01:15:19.633>So <01:15:19.866>then <01:15:20.099>the

1510
01:15:21.100 --> 01:15:24.500
<01:15:21.100>team <01:15:21.333>is <01:15:21.566>going <01:15:21.800>for <01:15:22.033>the <01:15:22.266>agile <01:15:22.500>method,

1511
01:15:24.500 --> 01:15:28.000
<01:15:24.500>but <01:15:24.733>actually <01:15:24.966>the <01:15:25.200>team <01:15:25.433>is <01:15:25.666>deciding <01:15:25.900>and

1512
01:15:27.300 --> 01:15:30.900
<01:15:27.300>like <01:15:27.533>in <01:15:27.766>this <01:15:28.000>team. <01:15:28.233>It's <01:15:28.466>the <01:15:28.700>the

1513
01:15:30.900 --> 01:15:33.400
<01:15:30.900>team <01:15:31.179>thought <01:15:31.460>they <01:15:31.740>first <01:15:32.019>started <01:15:32.299>with

1514
01:15:33.400 --> 01:15:37.300
<01:15:33.400>a <01:15:33.575>scrum <01:15:33.750>and <01:15:33.924>then <01:15:34.099>the <01:15:34.275>developers <01:15:34.450>said, <01:15:34.625>ah, <01:15:34.799>it's

1515
01:15:36.300 --> 01:15:39.400
<01:15:36.300>not <01:15:36.500>perfect. <01:15:36.700>We <01:15:36.900>would <01:15:37.100>like <01:15:37.300>to <01:15:37.500>have <01:15:37.700>a

1516
01:15:39.400 --> 01:15:42.400
<01:15:39.400>different <01:15:39.516>and <01:15:39.633>then <01:15:39.750>they <01:15:39.866>came <01:15:39.983>up <01:15:40.099>with <01:15:40.216>a <01:15:40.333>scrum <01:15:40.450>bun <01:15:40.566>with <01:15:40.683>this <01:15:40.799>combination.

1517
01:15:43.300 --> 01:15:46.500
<01:15:43.300>And <01:15:43.475>they <01:15:43.650>were <01:15:43.825>happy <01:15:44.000>with <01:15:44.175>that. <01:15:44.350>So <01:15:44.525>this <01:15:44.700>team

1518
01:15:46.500 --> 01:15:50.100
<01:15:46.500>is <01:15:46.640>working <01:15:46.780>with <01:15:46.920>the <01:15:47.060>scrum <01:15:47.200>bun. <01:15:47.340>And <01:15:47.480>in <01:15:47.620>in <01:15:47.760>another <01:15:47.900>in

1519
01:15:49.100 --> 01:15:52.200
<01:15:49.100>another <01:15:49.333>project <01:15:49.566>we <01:15:49.800>have <01:15:50.033>because <01:15:50.266>we <01:15:50.500>need

1520
01:15:52.200 --> 01:15:55.800
<01:15:52.200>to <01:15:52.400>get <01:15:52.599>the <01:15:52.800>all <01:15:53.000>the <01:15:53.200>manual <01:15:53.400>interactions <01:15:53.599>out

1521
01:15:55.800 --> 01:15:58.600
<01:15:55.800>in <01:15:55.955>the <01:15:56.111>grid. <01:15:56.266>We <01:15:56.422>need <01:15:56.577>to <01:15:56.733>have <01:15:56.888>an <01:15:57.044>essential <01:15:57.200>database

1522
01:15:58.600 --> 01:16:01.600
<01:15:58.600>to <01:15:58.880>to <01:15:59.160>know <01:15:59.440>actually <01:15:59.720>every <01:16:00.000>minute.

1523
01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:04.600
<01:16:01.600>What <01:16:01.833>is <01:16:02.066>the <01:16:02.300>how <01:16:02.533>our <01:16:02.766>grit <01:16:03.000>looks

1524
01:16:04.600 --> 01:16:05.400
precisely

1525
01:16:06.300 --> 01:16:09.100
<01:16:06.300>And <01:16:06.475>in <01:16:06.650>in <01:16:06.825>the <01:16:07.000>history, <01:16:07.175>this <01:16:07.350>was <01:16:07.525>done <01:16:07.700>with

1526
01:16:09.100 --> 01:16:12.200
<01:16:09.100>papers <01:16:09.200>in <01:16:09.300>Britain <01:16:09.400>down <01:16:09.500>at <01:16:09.600>the <01:16:09.700>end <01:16:09.800>of <01:16:09.900>the <01:16:10.000>day <01:16:10.100>it <01:16:10.200>was <01:16:10.300>brought <01:16:10.400>in <01:16:10.500>and

1527
01:16:12.200 --> 01:16:15.100
<01:16:12.200>so <01:16:12.355>this <01:16:12.511>is <01:16:12.666>a <01:16:12.822>bit <01:16:12.977>of <01:16:13.133>an <01:16:13.288>old-fashioned <01:16:13.444>working <01:16:13.599>Style.

1528
01:16:16.200 --> 01:16:20.000
<01:16:16.200>And <01:16:16.375>now <01:16:16.550>we're <01:16:16.724>looking <01:16:16.900>how <01:16:17.075>can <01:16:17.250>we <01:16:17.425>digitalize <01:16:17.599>this

1529
01:16:19.400 --> 01:16:22.200
<01:16:19.400>and <01:16:19.599>there <01:16:19.799>we <01:16:20.000>do <01:16:20.200>design <01:16:20.400>thinking. <01:16:20.599>So <01:16:20.799>we

1530
01:16:22.200 --> 01:16:25.800
<01:16:22.200>really <01:16:22.400>do <01:16:22.599>the <01:16:22.800>the <01:16:23.000>first <01:16:23.200>problem <01:16:23.400>understanding <01:16:23.599>then

1531
01:16:25.800 --> 01:16:26.500
<01:16:25.800>the <01:16:26.430>solutions.

1532
01:16:27.400 --> 01:16:30.700
<01:16:27.400>And <01:16:27.555>actually <01:16:27.711>each <01:16:27.866>team <01:16:28.022>is <01:16:28.177>deciding <01:16:28.333>for <01:16:28.488>their <01:16:28.644>task. <01:16:28.799>This

1533
01:16:30.700 --> 01:16:33.200
<01:16:30.700>is <01:16:30.840>our <01:16:30.980>perfect <01:16:31.120>approach. <01:16:31.260>We <01:16:31.400>want <01:16:31.540>to <01:16:31.679>do <01:16:31.820>it <01:16:31.960>like <01:16:32.099>that

1534
01:16:33.200 --> 01:16:37.700
<01:16:33.200>and <01:16:33.355>I'm <01:16:33.511>not <01:16:33.666>aware <01:16:33.822>in <01:16:33.977>any <01:16:34.133>of <01:16:34.288>the <01:16:34.444>svm <01:16:34.599>history

1535
01:16:37.700 --> 01:16:40.100
<01:16:37.700>that <01:16:37.900>a <01:16:38.099>boss <01:16:38.300>told. <01:16:38.500>No. <01:16:38.700>No, <01:16:38.900>you're <01:16:39.099>not

1536
01:16:40.100 --> 01:16:41.800
<01:16:40.100>allowed. <01:16:40.333>I <01:16:40.566>think <01:16:40.800>this <01:16:41.033>is <01:16:41.266>not <01:16:41.500>happening.

1537
01:16:44.100 --> 01:16:48.300
<01:16:44.100>Awesome. <01:16:44.275>Thanks <01:16:44.450>for <01:16:44.625>that <01:16:44.800>input <01:16:44.975>also <01:16:45.150>could <01:16:45.325>maybe <01:16:45.500>since

1538
01:16:47.300 --> 01:16:50.200
<01:16:47.300>we <01:16:47.475>heard <01:16:47.650>so <01:16:47.825>much <01:16:48.000>about <01:16:48.175>your <01:16:48.350>team. <01:16:48.525>Do <01:16:48.700>you

1539
01:16:50.200 --> 01:16:53.300
<01:16:50.200>have <01:16:50.355>any <01:16:50.511>specific <01:16:50.666>roles <01:16:50.822>also <01:16:50.977>open <01:16:51.133>in <01:16:51.288>your <01:16:51.444>team <01:16:51.599>or

1540
01:16:53.300 --> 01:16:56.300
<01:16:53.300>are <01:16:53.766>you <01:16:54.233>full <01:16:54.700>stacked

1541
01:16:56.300 --> 01:16:56.400
<01:16:56.300>right <01:16:56.389>now?

1542
01:16:58.900 --> 01:17:01.400
<01:16:58.900>We <01:16:59.179>have <01:16:59.460>one <01:16:59.740>one <01:17:00.019>roll <01:17:00.299>open.

1543
01:17:01.400 --> 01:17:04.600
<01:17:01.400>It's <01:17:01.679>in <01:17:01.960>I <01:17:02.240>it <01:17:02.519>security <01:17:02.799>or

1544
01:17:04.600 --> 01:17:07.800
<01:17:04.600>an <01:17:04.833>OT <01:17:05.066>security <01:17:05.300>expert. <01:17:05.533>So <01:17:05.766>so <01:17:06.000>if

1545
01:17:07.800 --> 01:17:10.700
<01:17:07.800>you <01:17:08.080>have <01:17:08.360>like <01:17:08.640>the <01:17:08.920>ideal <01:17:09.200>candidate

1546
01:17:10.700 --> 01:17:13.700
<01:17:10.700>which <01:17:11.050>be <01:17:11.400>experienced <01:17:11.750>with <01:17:12.099>with

1547
01:17:13.700 --> 01:17:16.100
<01:17:13.700>the <01:17:13.980>operational <01:17:14.260>technology <01:17:14.540>what <01:17:14.820>you've <01:17:15.099>seen

1548
01:17:16.100 --> 01:17:19.500
<01:17:16.100>what <01:17:16.300>we <01:17:16.500>experienced <01:17:16.700>with <01:17:16.900>cyber <01:17:17.100>security <01:17:17.300>and <01:17:17.500>we

1549
01:17:19.500 --> 01:17:22.700
<01:17:19.500>are <01:17:19.733>focused <01:17:19.966>more <01:17:20.200>on <01:17:20.433>the <01:17:20.666>management <01:17:20.900>parts.

1550
01:17:22.700 --> 01:17:25.800
<01:17:22.700>So <01:17:22.875>we <01:17:23.050>are <01:17:23.224>focused <01:17:23.400>more <01:17:23.575>on <01:17:23.750>the <01:17:23.925>questions <01:17:24.099>how

1551
01:17:25.800 --> 01:17:28.600
<01:17:25.800>to <01:17:26.033>do <01:17:26.266>all <01:17:26.500>the <01:17:26.733>actions <01:17:26.966>fit <01:17:27.200>together

1552
01:17:28.600 --> 01:17:31.800
<01:17:28.600>that <01:17:28.775>at <01:17:28.950>the <01:17:29.125>end. <01:17:29.300>We <01:17:29.475>are <01:17:29.650>very <01:17:29.825>resilient. <01:17:30.000>I

1553
01:17:31.800 --> 01:17:33.900
<01:17:31.800>think <01:17:32.000>this <01:17:32.200>was <01:17:32.400>a <01:17:32.600>question <01:17:32.800>from <01:17:33.000>Sandra <01:17:33.200>also.

1554
01:17:34.600 --> 01:17:38.200
<01:17:34.600>That <01:17:34.800>how <01:17:35.000>do <01:17:35.200>we <01:17:35.400>ensure <01:17:35.600>this? <01:17:35.800>Actually <01:17:36.000>when

1555
01:17:37.200 --> 01:17:40.100
<01:17:37.200>you <01:17:37.480>go <01:17:37.760>for <01:17:38.040>for <01:17:38.320>audits <01:17:38.599>like

1556
01:17:40.100 --> 01:17:43.200
<01:17:40.100>the <01:17:40.380>iso <01:17:40.660>27000 <01:17:40.940>then <01:17:41.220>if <01:17:41.500>you

1557
01:17:43.200 --> 01:17:46.400
<01:17:43.200>perform <01:17:43.327>this <01:17:43.454>audit <01:17:43.581>well, <01:17:43.709>and <01:17:43.836>if <01:17:43.963>you <01:17:44.090>do <01:17:44.218>a <01:17:44.345>good <01:17:44.472>job, <01:17:44.599>then

1558
01:17:46.400 --> 01:17:49.800
<01:17:46.400>this <01:17:46.633>is <01:17:46.866>actually <01:17:47.099>the <01:17:47.333>yeah <01:17:47.566>that <01:17:47.799>is

1559
01:17:49.800 --> 01:17:52.900
<01:17:49.800>that <01:17:50.000>is <01:17:50.200>performing. <01:17:50.400>Then <01:17:50.600>you <01:17:50.800>have <01:17:51.000>the <01:17:51.200>the

1560
01:17:52.900 --> 01:17:55.800
<01:17:52.900>audit <01:17:53.599>by <01:17:54.299>a

1561
01:17:55.800 --> 01:17:58.000
<01:17:55.800>certain <01:17:55.955>party. <01:17:56.111>Which <01:17:56.266>telling <01:17:56.422>you <01:17:56.577>yes, <01:17:56.733>you <01:17:56.888>did <01:17:57.044>a <01:17:57.200>good

1562
01:17:58.200 --> 01:18:00.200
<01:17:58.200>job. <01:17:58.666>You're <01:17:59.133>you're <01:17:59.599>resilient.

1563
01:18:02.100 --> 01:18:05.500
<01:18:02.100>But <01:18:02.333>thank <01:18:02.566>you <01:18:02.800>and <01:18:03.033>critical <01:18:03.266>pretty <01:18:03.500>confident

1564
01:18:05.500 --> 01:18:08.500
<01:18:05.500>that <01:18:05.733>the <01:18:05.966>applicants <01:18:06.200>will <01:18:06.433>fly <01:18:06.666>in <01:18:06.900>through

1565
01:18:08.500 --> 01:18:08.900
<01:18:08.500>the <01:18:08.860>week.

1566
01:18:10.300 --> 01:18:11.500
<01:18:10.300>Also, <01:18:10.660>I <01:18:11.020>hope <01:18:11.380>so.

1567
01:18:12.900 --> 01:18:15.000
<01:18:12.900>And <01:18:13.179>maybe <01:18:13.460>because <01:18:13.740>you <01:18:14.019>told <01:18:14.299>us

1568
01:18:15.600 --> 01:18:18.900
<01:18:15.600>earlier <01:18:15.950>Elizabeth <01:18:16.300>that <01:18:16.650>you <01:18:17.000>encourage

1569
01:18:18.900 --> 01:18:21.500
<01:18:18.900>people <01:18:19.099>and <01:18:19.299>help <01:18:19.500>people <01:18:19.700>to <01:18:19.900>learn <01:18:20.099>German <01:18:20.299>at

1570
01:18:21.500 --> 01:18:24.500
<01:18:21.500>your <01:18:21.700>company. <01:18:21.900>We <01:18:22.100>have <01:18:22.300>one <01:18:22.500>question <01:18:22.700>from <01:18:22.900>Kevin.

1571
01:18:24.500 --> 01:18:27.000
<01:18:24.500>He <01:18:24.675>says <01:18:24.850>I <01:18:25.025>live <01:18:25.200>in <01:18:25.375>Belgium <01:18:25.550>and <01:18:25.725>I <01:18:25.900>want

1572
01:18:27.100 --> 01:18:30.400
<01:18:27.100>to <01:18:27.216>learn <01:18:27.333>German. <01:18:27.450>Where <01:18:27.566>can <01:18:27.683>I <01:18:27.800>do <01:18:27.916>it? <01:18:28.033>So <01:18:28.150>maybe <01:18:28.266>you <01:18:28.383>have <01:18:28.500>some

1573
01:18:30.400 --> 01:18:34.000
<01:18:30.400>some <01:18:30.575>go <01:18:30.750>to <01:18:30.924>points <01:18:31.099>for <01:18:31.275>people <01:18:31.450>uproad <01:18:31.625>who <01:18:31.799>like

1574
01:18:33.500 --> 01:18:35.100
<01:18:33.500>to <01:18:34.200>learn <01:18:34.900>language.

1575
01:18:37.500 --> 01:18:40.400
<01:18:37.500>No, <01:18:37.700>I <01:18:37.900>don't <01:18:38.100>know <01:18:38.300>how <01:18:38.500>now <01:18:38.700>the <01:18:38.900>situation

1576
01:18:40.400 --> 01:18:43.900
<01:18:40.400>in <01:18:40.633>belgianism <01:18:40.866>and <01:18:41.099>if <01:18:41.333>there <01:18:41.566>are <01:18:41.799>special.

1577
01:18:44.800 --> 01:18:47.800
<01:18:44.800>Companies <01:18:45.266>who <01:18:45.733>give <01:18:46.200>German

1578
01:18:47.800 --> 01:18:51.200
<01:18:47.800>courses, <01:18:48.000>but <01:18:48.200>I'm <01:18:48.400>sure <01:18:48.600>they <01:18:48.800>are <01:18:49.000>companies. <01:18:49.200>I

1579
01:18:50.200 --> 01:18:53.800
<01:18:50.200>don't <01:18:50.480>know <01:18:50.760>there's <01:18:51.040>maybe <01:18:51.320>good <01:18:51.599>Institute

1580
01:18:53.800 --> 01:18:56.500
<01:18:53.800>which <01:18:54.000>has <01:18:54.200>a <01:18:54.400>certain <01:18:54.600>reputation <01:18:54.800>but <01:18:55.000>I'm <01:18:55.200>very

1581
01:18:56.500 --> 01:18:59.700
<01:18:56.500>sure <01:18:56.700>that <01:18:56.900>there <01:18:57.100>are <01:18:57.300>also <01:18:57.500>other <01:18:57.700>companies <01:18:57.900>language

1582
01:18:59.700 --> 01:19:03.100
<01:18:59.700>training <01:19:00.050>companies <01:19:00.400>where <01:19:00.750>you <01:19:01.099>can

1583
01:19:02.100 --> 01:19:05.600
<01:19:02.100>learn <01:19:02.566>German <01:19:03.033>there <01:19:03.500>are

1584
01:19:05.600 --> 01:19:09.000
<01:19:05.600>these <01:19:05.950>steps <01:19:06.300>from <01:19:06.650>A1 <01:19:07.000>to

1585
01:19:08.300 --> 01:19:11.400
<01:19:08.300>see <01:19:08.650>two <01:19:09.000>maybe <01:19:09.350>you <01:19:09.700>know,

1586
01:19:11.400 --> 01:19:11.900
and

1587
01:19:13.200 --> 01:19:16.300
<01:19:13.200>we <01:19:13.480>we <01:19:13.760>say <01:19:14.040>Okay <01:19:14.320>minimum <01:19:14.599>has

1588
01:19:16.300 --> 01:19:19.300
<01:19:16.300>to <01:19:16.533>be <01:19:16.766>one <01:19:17.000>to <01:19:17.233>start <01:19:17.466>in <01:19:17.700>our

1589
01:19:19.300 --> 01:19:19.600
company.

1590
01:19:21.400 --> 01:19:24.700
<01:19:21.400>I <01:19:21.555>think <01:19:21.711>it <01:19:21.866>means <01:19:22.022>that <01:19:22.177>you <01:19:22.333>had <01:19:22.488>already <01:19:22.644>some <01:19:22.799>courses

1591
01:19:24.700 --> 01:19:27.400
<01:19:24.700>of <01:19:24.840>German <01:19:24.980>language <01:19:25.120>and <01:19:25.260>that <01:19:25.400>you <01:19:25.540>have <01:19:25.679>a <01:19:25.820>feeling <01:19:25.960>of <01:19:26.099>the

1592
01:19:27.400 --> 01:19:30.500
<01:19:27.400>structure <01:19:27.555>of <01:19:27.711>Germany <01:19:27.866>and <01:19:28.022>but <01:19:28.177>even <01:19:28.333>if <01:19:28.488>you <01:19:28.644>have <01:19:28.799>no

1593
01:19:30.500 --> 01:19:33.400
<01:19:30.500>knowledge <01:19:30.733>of <01:19:30.966>German, <01:19:31.200>let's <01:19:31.433>say <01:19:31.666>it's <01:19:31.900>a

1594
01:19:33.400 --> 01:19:36.100
<01:19:33.400>one <01:19:33.555>or <01:19:33.711>a <01:19:33.866>two <01:19:34.022>we <01:19:34.177>help <01:19:34.333>you <01:19:34.488>we <01:19:34.644>support <01:19:34.799>you

1595
01:19:36.100 --> 01:19:39.900
<01:19:36.100>we <01:19:36.255>have <01:19:36.411>this <01:19:36.566>drum <01:19:36.722>course, <01:19:36.877>I <01:19:37.033>don't <01:19:37.188>know <01:19:37.344>what <01:19:37.500>you

1596
01:19:39.900 --> 01:19:40.800
<01:19:39.900>can <01:19:40.170>do <01:19:40.440>in <01:19:40.710>Belgium.

1597
01:19:41.800 --> 01:19:44.600
<01:19:41.800>But <01:19:42.000>you <01:19:42.200>can <01:19:42.400>come <01:19:42.600>here <01:19:42.800>can <01:19:43.000>start <01:19:43.200>here

1598
01:19:44.600 --> 01:19:47.200
<01:19:44.600>can <01:19:44.800>live <01:19:45.000>here. <01:19:45.200>We <01:19:45.400>have <01:19:45.600>a <01:19:45.800>partners <01:19:46.000>for

1599
01:19:47.200 --> 01:19:51.300
<01:19:47.200>you <01:19:47.375>if <01:19:47.550>you <01:19:47.724>come <01:19:47.900>from <01:19:48.075>Belgium, <01:19:48.250>and <01:19:48.425>yes, <01:19:48.599>we

1600
01:19:50.300 --> 01:19:52.400
<01:19:50.300>would <01:19:50.650>like <01:19:51.000>to <01:19:51.350>support <01:19:51.700>you.

1601
01:19:53.700 --> 01:19:56.600
<01:19:53.700>Yeah, <01:19:53.900>Kevin <01:19:54.099>looked <01:19:54.300>through <01:19:54.500>all <01:19:54.700>the <01:19:54.900>openings <01:19:55.099>of

1602
01:19:56.600 --> 01:20:00.600
<01:19:56.600>shutback <01:19:56.800>communic. <01:19:57.000>Like <01:19:57.200>maybe <01:19:57.400>there <01:19:57.600>is <01:19:57.800>something <01:19:58.000>already

1603
01:19:59.600 --> 01:20:02.200
<01:19:59.600>waiting <01:19:59.833>for <01:20:00.066>you. <01:20:00.300>And <01:20:00.533>yeah, <01:20:00.766>that <01:20:01.000>could

1604
01:20:02.200 --> 01:20:06.200
<01:20:02.200>be <01:20:02.355>your <01:20:02.511>chance <01:20:02.666>to <01:20:02.822>learn <01:20:02.977>German <01:20:03.133>and <01:20:03.288>maybe <01:20:03.444>quick <01:20:03.599>real

1605
01:20:06.200 --> 01:20:09.600
<01:20:06.200>tip <01:20:06.316>from <01:20:06.433>my <01:20:06.550>side. <01:20:06.666>I <01:20:06.783>learned <01:20:06.900>Spanish <01:20:07.016>with <01:20:07.133>an <01:20:07.250>app <01:20:07.366>called <01:20:07.483>Duolingo <01:20:07.599>and

1606
01:20:09.600 --> 01:20:12.500
<01:20:09.600>it's <01:20:09.833>I <01:20:10.066>believe <01:20:10.300>it's <01:20:10.533>only <01:20:10.766>also <01:20:11.000>available

1607
01:20:12.500 --> 01:20:15.300
<01:20:12.500>in <01:20:12.655>Belgium. <01:20:12.811>So <01:20:12.966>maybe <01:20:13.122>start <01:20:13.277>with <01:20:13.433>that <01:20:13.588>with <01:20:13.744>like <01:20:13.900>for

1608
01:20:15.300 --> 01:20:15.900
<01:20:15.300>the <01:20:15.840>basics.

1609
01:20:17.500 --> 01:20:20.600
<01:20:17.500>and <01:20:17.780>so <01:20:18.060>yeah <01:20:18.340>good <01:20:18.620>cycling <01:20:18.900>back

1610
01:20:20.600 --> 01:20:23.100
<01:20:20.600>to <01:20:20.755>a <01:20:20.911>bit <01:20:21.066>more <01:20:21.222>of <01:20:21.377>the <01:20:21.533>technical <01:20:21.688>Parts <01:20:21.844>since <01:20:22.000>we

1611
01:20:23.100 --> 01:20:25.700
<01:20:23.100>have <01:20:23.300>so <01:20:23.500>many <01:20:23.700>open <01:20:23.900>questions <01:20:24.100>right <01:20:24.300>now <01:20:24.500>and

1612
01:20:27.400 --> 01:20:30.400
<01:20:27.400>maybe <01:20:27.575>as <01:20:27.750>a <01:20:27.924>next <01:20:28.099>one. <01:20:28.275>What <01:20:28.450>are <01:20:28.625>some <01:20:28.799>best

1613
01:20:30.400 --> 01:20:33.300
<01:20:30.400>practices <01:20:30.750>for <01:20:31.099>managing <01:20:31.450>cybersecurity <01:20:31.799>risks

1614
01:20:33.300 --> 01:20:34.600
<01:20:33.300>in <01:20:33.885>critical <01:20:34.470>infrastructure?

1615
01:20:37.200 --> 01:20:37.300
I

1616
01:20:38.900 --> 01:20:41.600
<01:20:38.900>I <01:20:39.075>think <01:20:39.250>the <01:20:39.424>framework <01:20:39.599>which <01:20:39.775>is <01:20:39.950>the <01:20:40.125>best <01:20:40.299>at

1617
01:20:41.600 --> 01:20:44.500
<01:20:41.600>the <01:20:41.800>moment <01:20:42.000>is <01:20:42.200>the <01:20:42.400>the <01:20:42.600>business <01:20:42.800>continuity <01:20:43.000>management.

1618
01:20:45.400 --> 01:20:47.500
<01:20:45.400>And <01:20:45.633>and <01:20:45.866>this <01:20:46.099>is <01:20:46.333>also <01:20:46.566>like <01:20:46.799>like

1619
01:20:48.900 --> 01:20:52.400
<01:20:48.900>If <01:20:49.179>in <01:20:49.460>my <01:20:49.740>view <01:20:50.019>it's <01:20:50.299>it's

1620
01:20:51.400 --> 01:20:54.100
<01:20:51.400>one <01:20:51.633>of <01:20:51.866>the <01:20:52.099>best <01:20:52.333>practices <01:20:52.566>which <01:20:52.799>is

1621
01:20:54.100 --> 01:20:57.300
<01:20:54.100>now <01:20:54.333>more <01:20:54.566>formalized <01:20:54.800>because <01:20:55.033>you <01:20:55.266>really <01:20:55.500>have

1622
01:20:57.300 --> 01:21:00.500
<01:20:57.300>a <01:20:57.500>look <01:20:57.700>on <01:20:57.900>what <01:20:58.100>is <01:20:58.300>critical <01:20:58.500>in <01:20:58.700>the

1623
01:21:00.500 --> 01:21:03.500
<01:21:00.500>moment <01:21:00.700>of <01:21:00.900>a <01:21:01.100>severe <01:21:01.300>cyber <01:21:01.500>security <01:21:01.700>attacks. <01:21:01.900>So

1624
01:21:03.500 --> 01:21:04.800
<01:21:03.500>when <01:21:03.734>my <01:21:03.968>systems <01:21:04.202>are <01:21:04.436>really <01:21:04.670>down

1625
01:21:05.700 --> 01:21:08.000
<01:21:05.700>How <01:21:05.900>do <01:21:06.099>I <01:21:06.300>do <01:21:06.500>that <01:21:06.700>and <01:21:06.900>you <01:21:07.099>need

1626
01:21:08.100 --> 01:21:11.700
<01:21:08.100>to <01:21:08.227>write <01:21:08.354>down <01:21:08.481>that <01:21:08.609>you <01:21:08.736>need <01:21:08.863>to <01:21:08.990>and <01:21:09.118>you <01:21:09.245>need <01:21:09.372>in <01:21:09.500>advance

1627
01:21:11.700 --> 01:21:14.900
<01:21:11.700>to <01:21:11.933>have <01:21:12.166>people <01:21:12.400>responsible <01:21:12.633>for <01:21:12.866>certain <01:21:13.099>tasks?

1628
01:21:14.900 --> 01:21:17.400
<01:21:14.900>And <01:21:15.099>this <01:21:15.299>is <01:21:15.500>also <01:21:15.700>like <01:21:15.900>in <01:21:16.099>the <01:21:16.299>start

1629
01:21:17.400 --> 01:21:18.000
<01:21:17.400>vacuum <01:21:17.940>Munich.

1630
01:21:18.400 --> 01:21:21.900
<01:21:18.400>We <01:21:18.679>have <01:21:18.960>documents <01:21:19.240>defining <01:21:19.519>which <01:21:19.799>person

1631
01:21:21.900 --> 01:21:24.400
<01:21:21.900>is <01:21:22.179>responsible <01:21:22.460>for <01:21:22.740>what <01:21:23.019>and <01:21:23.299>then

1632
01:21:24.400 --> 01:21:27.400
<01:21:24.400>you're <01:21:24.599>really <01:21:24.799>if <01:21:25.000>if <01:21:25.200>it <01:21:25.400>comes <01:21:25.599>to <01:21:25.799>a

1633
01:21:27.400 --> 01:21:30.700
<01:21:27.400>crisis <01:21:27.575>when <01:21:27.750>when <01:21:27.924>it <01:21:28.099>really <01:21:28.275>gets <01:21:28.450>not <01:21:28.625>only <01:21:28.799>a

1634
01:21:30.700 --> 01:21:33.800
<01:21:30.700>small <01:21:31.166>area <01:21:31.633>of <01:21:32.099>Munich

1635
01:21:33.800 --> 01:21:36.300
<01:21:33.800>without <01:21:34.033>energy <01:21:34.266>if <01:21:34.500>it <01:21:34.733>really <01:21:34.966>like <01:21:35.200>like

1636
01:21:36.300 --> 01:21:39.600
<01:21:36.300>whole <01:21:36.500>Munich <01:21:36.700>then <01:21:36.900>you <01:21:37.100>have <01:21:37.300>also <01:21:37.500>the <01:21:37.700>the

1637
01:21:39.600 --> 01:21:42.600
<01:21:39.600>plan <01:21:39.833>how <01:21:40.066>to <01:21:40.300>involve <01:21:40.533>the <01:21:40.766>town <01:21:41.000>hall

1638
01:21:42.600 --> 01:21:45.800
<01:21:42.600>how <01:21:42.833>to <01:21:43.066>involve <01:21:43.300>the <01:21:43.533>mayor <01:21:43.766>or <01:21:44.000>other

1639
01:21:45.800 --> 01:21:48.500
<01:21:45.800>official <01:21:46.080>bodies. <01:21:46.360>So <01:21:46.640>you <01:21:46.920>need <01:21:47.200>in

1640
01:21:48.500 --> 01:21:51.800
<01:21:48.500>advance <01:21:48.655>to <01:21:48.811>really <01:21:48.966>make <01:21:49.122>a <01:21:49.277>plan <01:21:49.433>to <01:21:49.588>say <01:21:49.744>from <01:21:49.900>which

1641
01:21:51.800 --> 01:21:54.900
<01:21:51.800>Step <01:21:52.000>onward <01:21:52.200>you <01:21:52.400>need <01:21:52.600>to <01:21:52.800>go <01:21:53.000>with <01:21:53.200>which

1642
01:21:54.900 --> 01:21:57.000
<01:21:54.900>action <01:21:55.133>and <01:21:55.366>you <01:21:55.599>need <01:21:55.833>to <01:21:56.066>train <01:21:56.299>people.

1643
01:21:58.300 --> 01:22:01.300
<01:21:58.300>And <01:21:58.475>this <01:21:58.650>is <01:21:58.825>something <01:21:59.000>we <01:21:59.175>are <01:21:59.350>now <01:21:59.525>doing <01:21:59.700>more

1644
01:22:01.300 --> 01:22:05.000
<01:22:01.300>intensely <01:22:01.580>that <01:22:01.860>training <01:22:02.140>of <01:22:02.420>this <01:22:02.700>critical

1645
01:22:04.900 --> 01:22:07.900
<01:22:04.900>situations <01:22:05.599>that <01:22:06.299>in

1646
01:22:07.900 --> 01:22:10.400
<01:22:07.900>the <01:22:08.075>past. <01:22:08.250>We <01:22:08.424>relied <01:22:08.599>a <01:22:08.775>little <01:22:08.950>bit <01:22:09.125>more <01:22:09.299>on

1647
01:22:10.400 --> 01:22:13.900
<01:22:10.400>the <01:22:10.633>paper <01:22:10.866>on <01:22:11.099>structuring <01:22:11.333>it <01:22:11.566>now <01:22:11.799>we

1648
01:22:13.900 --> 01:22:16.600
<01:22:13.900>are <01:22:14.075>doing <01:22:14.250>more <01:22:14.424>of <01:22:14.599>the <01:22:14.775>testing <01:22:14.950>more <01:22:15.125>of <01:22:15.299>trainings.

1649
01:22:18.300 --> 01:22:22.200
<01:22:18.300>Okay, <01:22:18.455>thanks <01:22:18.611>for <01:22:18.766>this <01:22:18.922>answers. <01:22:19.077>Well <01:22:19.233>could <01:22:19.388>and <01:22:19.544>another <01:22:19.700>question

1650
01:22:21.200 --> 01:22:24.900
<01:22:21.200>would <01:22:21.433>be <01:22:21.666>you <01:22:21.900>already <01:22:22.133>talked <01:22:22.366>during <01:22:22.599>doing

1651
01:22:24.900 --> 01:22:27.200
<01:22:24.900>during <01:22:25.075>the <01:22:25.250>talk <01:22:25.424>a <01:22:25.599>bit <01:22:25.775>about <01:22:25.950>all <01:22:26.125>the <01:22:26.299>the

1652
01:22:27.200 --> 01:22:30.500
<01:22:27.200>products <01:22:27.400>and <01:22:27.599>infrastructure <01:22:27.800>you <01:22:28.000>are <01:22:28.200>developing <01:22:28.400>security <01:22:28.599>for

1653
01:22:30.500 --> 01:22:33.500
<01:22:30.500>but <01:22:30.675>there <01:22:30.850>is <01:22:31.025>a <01:22:31.200>question <01:22:31.375>from <01:22:31.550>Antonio. <01:22:31.725>What <01:22:31.900>are

1654
01:22:33.500 --> 01:22:36.700
<01:22:33.500>some <01:22:33.733>examples <01:22:33.966>of <01:22:34.200>critical <01:22:34.433>infrastructure <01:22:34.666>that <01:22:34.900>requires

1655
01:22:36.700 --> 01:22:39.400
<01:22:36.700>special <01:22:36.933>attention <01:22:37.166>in <01:22:37.400>terms <01:22:37.633>of <01:22:37.866>cyber <01:22:38.099>security.

1656
01:22:39.400 --> 01:22:40.600
Hmm.

1657
01:22:41.600 --> 01:22:44.200
<01:22:41.600>And <01:22:41.950>in <01:22:42.300>in <01:22:42.650>principle <01:22:43.000>you

1658
01:22:44.200 --> 01:22:47.500
<01:22:44.200>can <01:22:44.375>I <01:22:44.550>give <01:22:44.724>you <01:22:44.900>an <01:22:45.075>example <01:22:45.250>after <01:22:45.425>or <01:22:45.599>some

1659
01:22:47.500 --> 01:22:50.000
<01:22:47.500>examples <01:22:47.780>afterwards <01:22:48.060>in <01:22:48.340>principle. <01:22:48.620>If <01:22:48.900>you

1660
01:22:50.300 --> 01:22:53.500
<01:22:50.300>do <01:22:50.500>the <01:22:50.700>business <01:22:50.900>continuity <01:22:51.100>management, <01:22:51.300>you <01:22:51.500>you <01:22:51.700>go

1661
01:22:53.500 --> 01:22:56.500
<01:22:53.500>back <01:22:53.675>and <01:22:53.850>say <01:22:54.025>what <01:22:54.200>is <01:22:54.375>absolutely <01:22:54.550>vital <01:22:54.725>for <01:22:54.900>to

1662
01:22:56.500 --> 01:22:59.300
<01:22:56.500>run <01:22:56.733>my <01:22:56.966>business <01:22:57.200>to <01:22:57.433>deliver <01:22:57.666>water <01:22:57.900>to

1663
01:22:59.300 --> 01:23:01.500
<01:22:59.300>deliver <01:22:59.533>heat <01:22:59.766>or <01:23:00.000>whatever <01:23:00.233>or <01:23:00.466>natural <01:23:00.700>gas.

1664
01:23:02.400 --> 01:23:05.400
<01:23:02.400>And <01:23:02.599>then <01:23:02.799>you <01:23:03.000>come <01:23:03.200>down <01:23:03.400>to <01:23:03.599>some <01:23:03.799>like

1665
01:23:05.400 --> 01:23:09.200
<01:23:05.400>in <01:23:05.555>our <01:23:05.711>case. <01:23:05.866>We <01:23:06.022>need <01:23:06.177>to <01:23:06.333>have <01:23:06.488>a <01:23:06.644>few <01:23:06.799>on

1666
01:23:08.200 --> 01:23:11.700
<01:23:08.200>the <01:23:08.400>grids <01:23:08.599>of <01:23:08.800>the <01:23:09.000>scada <01:23:09.200>system <01:23:09.400>is <01:23:09.599>is

1667
01:23:11.700 --> 01:23:15.100
<01:23:11.700>one <01:23:11.980>of <01:23:12.260>the <01:23:12.540>critical <01:23:12.820>infrastructure <01:23:13.099>systems

1668
01:23:14.100 --> 01:23:18.300
<01:23:14.100>where <01:23:14.333>you <01:23:14.566>say <01:23:14.800>this <01:23:15.033>systems <01:23:15.266>visualizes <01:23:15.500>you

1669
01:23:18.300 --> 01:23:20.400
<01:23:18.300>what <01:23:18.580>happening <01:23:18.860>out <01:23:19.140>in <01:23:19.420>the <01:23:19.700>town?

1670
01:23:21.100 --> 01:23:24.500
<01:23:21.100>And <01:23:21.255>if <01:23:21.411>this <01:23:21.566>system <01:23:21.722>is <01:23:21.877>is <01:23:22.033>out <01:23:22.188>of <01:23:22.344>the <01:23:22.500>system

1671
01:23:24.500 --> 01:23:25.200
<01:23:24.500>is <01:23:24.815>going <01:23:25.130>down.

1672
01:23:26.300 --> 01:23:29.700
<01:23:26.300>I <01:23:26.440>I <01:23:26.580>don't <01:23:26.720>know <01:23:26.860>any <01:23:27.000>company <01:23:27.140>which <01:23:27.280>doesn't <01:23:27.420>have <01:23:27.560>a <01:23:27.700>backup

1673
01:23:29.700 --> 01:23:32.800
<01:23:29.700>system. <01:23:29.875>So <01:23:30.050>you <01:23:30.224>have <01:23:30.400>always <01:23:30.575>two <01:23:30.750>systems <01:23:30.925>and <01:23:31.099>these

1674
01:23:32.800 --> 01:23:35.200
<01:23:32.800>systems <01:23:33.150>are <01:23:33.500>also <01:23:33.850>they <01:23:34.200>are

1675
01:23:35.200 --> 01:23:38.800
<01:23:35.200>redundant <01:23:35.355>in <01:23:35.511>in <01:23:35.666>one <01:23:35.822>location. <01:23:35.977>They <01:23:36.133>are <01:23:36.288>already <01:23:36.444>really <01:23:36.599>redundant.

1676
01:23:38.800 --> 01:23:39.500
<01:23:38.800>So <01:23:39.010>if <01:23:39.220>you <01:23:39.430>have

1677
01:23:40.300 --> 01:23:43.300
<01:23:40.300>Like <01:23:40.475>two <01:23:40.650>rings <01:23:40.825>of <01:23:41.000>fiber <01:23:41.175>glass <01:23:41.350>and <01:23:41.525>you <01:23:41.700>have

1678
01:23:43.300 --> 01:23:46.300
<01:23:43.300>an <01:23:43.475>A <01:23:43.650>and <01:23:43.825>then <01:23:44.000>B <01:23:44.175>workstations <01:23:44.350>and <01:23:44.525>things <01:23:44.700>like

1679
01:23:46.300 --> 01:23:49.400
<01:23:46.300>that. <01:23:46.533>And <01:23:46.766>if <01:23:47.000>if <01:23:47.233>one <01:23:47.466>and <01:23:47.700>we

1680
01:23:49.400 --> 01:23:54.000
<01:23:49.400>have <01:23:49.575>the <01:23:49.750>situation <01:23:49.924>in <01:23:50.099>the <01:23:50.275>past <01:23:50.450>that <01:23:50.625>especially <01:23:50.799>the

1681
01:23:53.600 --> 01:23:56.200
<01:23:53.600>the <01:23:54.066>router <01:23:54.533>which <01:23:55.000>is

1682
01:23:56.200 --> 01:24:00.000
<01:23:56.200>deciding <01:23:56.375>to <01:23:56.550>I'm <01:23:56.724>using <01:23:56.900>a <01:23:57.075>or <01:23:57.250>b <01:23:57.425>infrastructure <01:23:57.599>the

1683
01:23:59.000 --> 01:24:00.700
ARB

1684
01:24:01.700 --> 01:24:04.600
<01:24:01.700>fiberglass <01:24:01.900>ring <01:24:02.099>had <01:24:02.300>a <01:24:02.500>problem. <01:24:02.700>And <01:24:02.900>so <01:24:03.099>one

1685
01:24:04.600 --> 01:24:07.300
<01:24:04.600>of <01:24:04.800>the <01:24:05.000>locations <01:24:05.200>went <01:24:05.400>went <01:24:05.600>completely <01:24:05.800>black. <01:24:06.000>It

1686
01:24:07.300 --> 01:24:10.900
<01:24:07.300>was <01:24:07.533>within <01:24:07.766>yeah, <01:24:08.000>it <01:24:08.233>was <01:24:08.466>really <01:24:08.700>spooky.

1687
01:24:10.900 --> 01:24:13.800
<01:24:10.900>It <01:24:11.133>was <01:24:11.366>within <01:24:11.599>five <01:24:11.833>minutes. <01:24:12.066>The <01:24:12.299>the

1688
01:24:13.800 --> 01:24:16.100
<01:24:13.800>working <01:24:13.975>stations <01:24:14.150>are <01:24:14.325>going <01:24:14.500>down <01:24:14.675>down <01:24:14.850>down <01:24:15.025>down <01:24:15.200>down.

1689
01:24:16.100 --> 01:24:19.600
<01:24:16.100>It <01:24:16.227>was <01:24:16.354>really <01:24:16.481>like <01:24:16.609>in <01:24:16.736>a <01:24:16.863>film <01:24:16.990>ID. <01:24:17.118>It <01:24:17.245>was <01:24:17.372>one <01:24:17.500>after

1690
01:24:19.600 --> 01:24:21.600
<01:24:19.600>another <01:24:19.880>is <01:24:20.160>going <01:24:20.440>out <01:24:20.720>of <01:24:21.000>service.

1691
01:24:22.500 --> 01:24:26.100
<01:24:22.500>And <01:24:22.780>then <01:24:23.060>it <01:24:23.340>was <01:24:23.620>and <01:24:23.900>then

1692
01:24:25.100 --> 01:24:29.100
<01:24:25.100>you're <01:24:25.380>getting <01:24:25.660>nervous <01:24:25.940>very <01:24:26.220>nervous. <01:24:26.500>And

1693
01:24:28.100 --> 01:24:31.900
<01:24:28.100>then <01:24:28.300>it <01:24:28.500>really <01:24:28.700>starts <01:24:28.900>the <01:24:29.100>the <01:24:29.300>procedure <01:24:29.500>you

1694
01:24:31.900 --> 01:24:34.400
<01:24:31.900>have <01:24:32.075>trained. <01:24:32.250>So <01:24:32.424>then <01:24:32.599>you <01:24:32.775>have <01:24:32.950>the <01:24:33.125>car <01:24:33.299>with

1695
01:24:34.400 --> 01:24:38.100
<01:24:34.400>the <01:24:34.540>blue <01:24:34.679>lights <01:24:34.820>and <01:24:34.960>then <01:24:35.099>you're <01:24:35.240>relocate <01:24:35.379>all <01:24:35.519>your <01:24:35.660>stuff <01:24:35.799>to

1696
01:24:37.100 --> 01:24:40.900
<01:24:37.100>the <01:24:37.333>new <01:24:37.566>location <01:24:37.800>to <01:24:38.033>the <01:24:38.266>tourism <01:24:38.500>remote

1697
01:24:40.900 --> 01:24:43.500
<01:24:40.900>location <01:24:41.179>and <01:24:41.460>you <01:24:41.740>keep <01:24:42.019>your <01:24:42.299>fingers

1698
01:24:43.500 --> 01:24:45.400
<01:24:43.500>crossed <01:24:43.850>that <01:24:44.200>everything <01:24:44.550>is <01:24:44.900>working.

1699
01:24:46.200 --> 01:24:49.500
<01:24:46.200>And <01:24:46.375>and <01:24:46.550>okay <01:24:46.724>in <01:24:46.900>this <01:24:47.075>case, <01:24:47.250>everything <01:24:47.425>was <01:24:47.599>working

1700
01:24:49.500 --> 01:24:52.500
<01:24:49.500>and <01:24:49.675>then <01:24:49.850>you <01:24:50.025>start <01:24:50.200>with <01:24:50.375>your <01:24:50.550>normal <01:24:50.725>business. <01:24:50.900>And

1701
01:24:52.500 --> 01:24:55.300
<01:24:52.500>of <01:24:52.733>course <01:24:52.966>you <01:24:53.200>every <01:24:53.433>actually <01:24:53.666>you <01:24:53.900>call

1702
01:24:55.300 --> 01:24:58.400
<01:24:55.300>in <01:24:55.440>every <01:24:55.580>specialist <01:24:55.720>you <01:24:55.860>think <01:24:56.000>who <01:24:56.140>is <01:24:56.280>which <01:24:56.420>is <01:24:56.560>available <01:24:56.700>and

1703
01:24:58.400 --> 01:25:01.600
<01:24:58.400>and <01:24:58.679>start <01:24:58.960>doing <01:24:59.240>the <01:24:59.519>analysis <01:24:59.799>what's

1704
01:25:01.600 --> 01:25:04.400
<01:25:01.600>happened <01:25:01.950>here <01:25:02.300>and <01:25:02.650>you <01:25:03.000>start

1705
01:25:04.400 --> 01:25:07.400
<01:25:04.400>recovering <01:25:04.633>the <01:25:04.866>original <01:25:05.099>system. <01:25:05.333>And <01:25:05.566>so <01:25:05.799>these

1706
01:25:07.400 --> 01:25:10.700
<01:25:07.400>these <01:25:07.599>or <01:25:07.799>what <01:25:08.000>we <01:25:08.200>saw <01:25:08.400>before <01:25:08.599>with <01:25:08.799>with

1707
01:25:10.700 --> 01:25:12.800
<01:25:10.700>the <01:25:10.980>safety <01:25:11.260>relay. <01:25:11.540>So <01:25:11.820>all <01:25:12.099>the

1708
01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:16.100
<01:25:13.600>actually <01:25:13.880>all <01:25:14.160>the <01:25:14.440>systems <01:25:14.720>which <01:25:15.000>are

1709
01:25:16.100 --> 01:25:19.600
<01:25:16.100>located <01:25:16.450>remote <01:25:16.800>not <01:25:17.150>centrally <01:25:17.500>they

1710
01:25:19.600 --> 01:25:22.300
<01:25:19.600>are <01:25:19.880>typically <01:25:20.160>systems <01:25:20.440>which <01:25:20.720>are <01:25:21.000>vital

1711
01:25:22.300 --> 01:25:25.100
<01:25:22.300>for <01:25:22.475>the <01:25:22.650>for <01:25:22.825>the <01:25:23.000>critical <01:25:23.175>infrastructure <01:25:23.350>and <01:25:23.525>there <01:25:23.700>we

1712
01:25:25.100 --> 01:25:26.200
<01:25:25.100>have <01:25:25.347>a <01:25:25.595>special <01:25:25.842>focus <01:25:26.090>on

1713
01:25:27.300 --> 01:25:31.200
<01:25:27.300>If <01:25:27.475>like <01:25:27.650>our <01:25:27.825>web <01:25:28.000>servers <01:25:28.175>is <01:25:28.350>down. <01:25:28.525>Yeah, <01:25:28.700>it's

1714
01:25:30.200 --> 01:25:33.400
<01:25:30.200>that's <01:25:30.433>bad <01:25:30.666>but <01:25:30.900>not <01:25:31.133>not <01:25:31.366>a <01:25:31.599>problem,

1715
01:25:33.400 --> 01:25:36.400
<01:25:33.400>right? <01:25:33.679>Yeah, <01:25:33.960>very <01:25:34.240>understandable. <01:25:34.519>But <01:25:34.799>that

1716
01:25:36.400 --> 01:25:39.900
<01:25:36.400>also <01:25:36.555>means <01:25:36.711>since <01:25:36.866>you <01:25:37.022>have <01:25:37.177>two <01:25:37.333>systems <01:25:37.488>and <01:25:37.644>one <01:25:37.799>backup

1717
01:25:39.900 --> 01:25:43.900
<01:25:39.900>until <01:25:40.099>you <01:25:40.299>have <01:25:40.500>a <01:25:40.700>really <01:25:40.900>full <01:25:41.099>Fallout <01:25:41.299>there

1718
01:25:42.900 --> 01:25:45.200
<01:25:42.900>has <01:25:43.599>there <01:25:44.299>needs

1719
01:25:45.200 --> 01:25:48.700
<01:25:45.200>to <01:25:45.375>be <01:25:45.550>really <01:25:45.724>critical <01:25:45.900>attack <01:25:46.075>and <01:25:46.250>you're <01:25:46.425>always <01:25:46.599>like

1720
01:25:48.700 --> 01:25:54.800
<01:25:48.700>back <01:25:48.855>up <01:25:49.011>to <01:25:49.166>this. <01:25:49.322>Let's <01:25:49.477>go <01:25:49.633>to <01:25:49.788>know. <01:25:49.944>Yes <01:25:50.099>kind

1721
01:25:52.800 --> 01:25:55.300
<01:25:52.800>of <01:25:53.500>a <01:25:54.200>relief.

1722
01:25:57.300 --> 01:26:00.400
<01:25:57.300>Connected <01:25:57.580>to <01:25:57.860>your <01:25:58.140>answer <01:25:58.420>one <01:25:58.700>question

1723
01:26:00.400 --> 01:26:03.800
<01:26:00.400>form <01:26:00.540>and <01:26:00.679>keeper <01:26:00.820>who <01:26:00.960>wants <01:26:01.099>to <01:26:01.240>know. <01:26:01.379>What <01:26:01.519>is <01:26:01.660>the <01:26:01.799>fiberglass

1724
01:26:03.800 --> 01:26:04.100
link?

1725
01:26:05.700 --> 01:26:08.600
<01:26:05.700>Okay, <01:26:05.980>in <01:26:06.260>in <01:26:06.540>many <01:26:06.820>cases <01:26:07.099>you

1726
01:26:08.600 --> 01:26:11.200
<01:26:08.600>have <01:26:08.800>in <01:26:09.000>your <01:26:09.200>computer <01:26:09.400>is <01:26:09.600>with <01:26:09.800>a <01:26:10.000>wireless

1727
01:26:11.200 --> 01:26:14.400
<01:26:11.200>alarm <01:26:11.375>with <01:26:11.550>a <01:26:11.724>Wi-Fi <01:26:11.900>or <01:26:12.075>if <01:26:12.250>you're <01:26:12.425>plugged <01:26:12.599>in

1728
01:26:14.400 --> 01:26:17.800
<01:26:14.400>with <01:26:14.527>the <01:26:14.654>with <01:26:14.781>the <01:26:14.909>land <01:26:15.036>cable <01:26:15.163>with <01:26:15.290>a <01:26:15.418>local <01:26:15.545>area <01:26:15.672>network <01:26:15.799>cable.

1729
01:26:18.800 --> 01:26:22.200
<01:26:18.800>And <01:26:19.080>in <01:26:19.360>our <01:26:19.640>cases <01:26:19.920>the <01:26:20.200>in

1730
01:26:21.200 --> 01:26:24.200
<01:26:21.200>the <01:26:21.480>locations <01:26:21.760>where <01:26:22.040>we're <01:26:22.320>all <01:26:22.599>the

1731
01:26:24.200 --> 01:26:27.800
<01:26:24.200>information <01:26:24.355>is <01:26:24.511>concentrated. <01:26:24.666>So <01:26:24.822>where <01:26:24.977>you <01:26:25.133>have <01:26:25.288>a <01:26:25.444>few <01:26:25.599>on

1732
01:26:27.800 --> 01:26:29.100
<01:26:27.800>the <01:26:28.034>whole <01:26:28.268>grid <01:26:28.502>of <01:26:28.736>a <01:26:28.970>town?

1733
01:26:29.900 --> 01:26:32.300
<01:26:29.900>Then <01:26:30.133>you <01:26:30.366>typically <01:26:30.599>couple <01:26:30.833>in <01:26:31.066>between <01:26:31.299>the

1734
01:26:32.300 --> 01:26:35.200
<01:26:32.300>different <01:26:32.440>routers <01:26:32.580>you <01:26:32.720>do <01:26:32.860>it <01:26:33.000>not <01:26:33.140>with <01:26:33.280>the <01:26:33.420>cable <01:26:33.560>you <01:26:33.700>do

1735
01:26:35.200 --> 01:26:38.300
<01:26:35.200>it <01:26:35.327>with <01:26:35.454>a <01:26:35.581>fiberglass. <01:26:35.709>So <01:26:35.836>you <01:26:35.963>do <01:26:36.090>it <01:26:36.218>with <01:26:36.345>a <01:26:36.472>with <01:26:36.599>a

1736
01:26:40.600 --> 01:26:43.300
<01:26:40.600>so <01:26:40.727>now <01:26:40.854>it <01:26:40.981>comes <01:26:41.109>to <01:26:41.236>the <01:26:41.363>problem <01:26:41.490>that <01:26:41.618>I <01:26:41.745>don't <01:26:41.872>know <01:26:42.000>in

1737
01:26:43.300 --> 01:26:46.600
<01:26:43.300>an <01:26:43.455>alternative <01:26:43.611>word <01:26:43.766>in <01:26:43.922>English. <01:26:44.077>So <01:26:44.233>you're <01:26:44.388>doing <01:26:44.544>with <01:26:44.700>with

1738
01:26:46.600 --> 01:26:49.400
<01:26:46.600>a <01:26:46.950>light <01:26:47.300>the <01:26:47.650>transfer <01:26:48.000>the

1739
01:26:49.400 --> 01:26:52.400
<01:26:49.400>information <01:26:49.679>via <01:26:49.960>light <01:26:50.240>not <01:26:50.519>via <01:26:50.799>copper

1740
01:26:52.400 --> 01:26:55.400
<01:26:52.400>because <01:26:52.633>it <01:26:52.866>has <01:26:53.099>some <01:26:53.333>beneficial <01:26:53.566>things <01:26:53.799>when

1741
01:26:55.400 --> 01:26:59.100
<01:26:55.400>it <01:26:55.540>comes <01:26:55.679>to <01:26:55.820>magnetic <01:26:55.960>fields <01:26:56.099>and <01:26:56.240>things <01:26:56.379>like <01:26:56.519>that. <01:26:56.660>Then <01:26:56.799>a

1742
01:26:58.100 --> 01:27:01.600
<01:26:58.100>copper <01:26:58.380>cable <01:26:58.660>has <01:26:58.940>certain <01:26:59.220>restrictions. <01:26:59.500>If

1743
01:27:01.600 --> 01:27:04.200
<01:27:01.600>you <01:27:01.800>transfer <01:27:02.000>from <01:27:02.200>one <01:27:02.400>computer <01:27:02.600>to <01:27:02.800>the <01:27:03.000>other

1744
01:27:04.200 --> 01:27:07.800
<01:27:04.200>computer <01:27:04.550>the <01:27:04.900>information <01:27:05.250>via <01:27:05.599>VIA

1745
01:27:07.800 --> 01:27:10.300
<01:27:07.800>the <01:27:08.000>light <01:27:08.200>or <01:27:08.400>by <01:27:08.600>the <01:27:08.800>Light <01:27:09.000>cable, <01:27:09.200>then

1746
01:27:10.300 --> 01:27:13.500
<01:27:10.300>it's <01:27:10.766>typically <01:27:11.233>more <01:27:11.700>reliable.

1747
01:27:16.700 --> 01:27:20.600
<01:27:16.700>Yes, <01:27:16.875>I <01:27:17.050>come <01:27:17.224>back <01:27:17.400>that <01:27:17.575>I've <01:27:17.750>connected <01:27:17.925>my <01:27:18.099>home

1748
01:27:19.600 --> 01:27:22.800
<01:27:19.600>studio <01:27:19.880>to <01:27:20.160>the <01:27:20.440>TV <01:27:20.720>via <01:27:21.000>lights

1749
01:27:22.800 --> 01:27:25.300
<01:27:22.800>cable. <01:27:23.000>So <01:27:23.200>yeah, <01:27:23.400>that's <01:27:23.600>very <01:27:23.800>it's <01:27:24.000>a <01:27:24.200>good

1750
01:27:25.300 --> 01:27:28.300
<01:27:25.300>thing <01:27:25.650>and <01:27:26.000>cycling <01:27:26.350>back <01:27:26.700>a

1751
01:27:28.300 --> 01:27:31.200
<01:27:28.300>bit <01:27:28.455>to <01:27:28.611>companies <01:27:28.766>stuff <01:27:28.922>and <01:27:29.077>some <01:27:29.233>people <01:27:29.388>wanted <01:27:29.544>to <01:27:29.700>know

1752
01:27:31.200 --> 01:27:34.400
<01:27:31.200>what's <01:27:31.400>like <01:27:31.599>a <01:27:31.800>question <01:27:32.000>to <01:27:32.200>both. <01:27:32.400>What <01:27:32.599>is

1753
01:27:34.400 --> 01:27:37.200
<01:27:34.400>the <01:27:34.575>coolest <01:27:34.750>or <01:27:34.924>best <01:27:35.099>thing <01:27:35.275>about <01:27:35.450>working <01:27:35.625>at <01:27:35.799>stuff

1754
01:27:37.200 --> 01:27:40.400
<01:27:37.200>like <01:27:37.316>image <01:27:37.433>or <01:27:37.550>maybe <01:27:37.666>let's <01:27:37.783>talk <01:27:37.900>about <01:27:38.016>some <01:27:38.133>of <01:27:38.250>the <01:27:38.366>benefits <01:27:38.483>you <01:27:38.599>have

1755
01:27:40.400 --> 01:27:42.000
<01:27:40.400>for <01:27:40.866>your <01:27:41.333>your <01:27:41.799>employees.

1756
01:27:43.800 --> 01:27:46.200
<01:27:43.800>In <01:27:44.000>China, <01:27:44.200>I <01:27:44.400>would <01:27:44.600>like <01:27:44.800>I <01:27:45.000>would <01:27:45.200>like

1757
01:27:46.200 --> 01:27:50.000
<01:27:46.200>to <01:27:46.340>start <01:27:46.480>with <01:27:46.620>the <01:27:46.760>coolest <01:27:46.900>or <01:27:47.040>best <01:27:47.179>thing <01:27:47.320>to <01:27:47.460>work <01:27:47.599>at.

1758
01:27:50.900 --> 01:27:53.800
<01:27:50.900>Network, <01:27:51.250>I <01:27:51.599>think <01:27:51.950>that <01:27:52.299>the

1759
01:27:53.800 --> 01:27:56.100
<01:27:53.800>fact <01:27:54.000>that <01:27:54.200>you <01:27:54.400>can <01:27:54.600>identify <01:27:54.800>yourself <01:27:55.000>as <01:27:55.200>a

1760
01:27:56.100 --> 01:28:00.000
<01:27:56.100>company <01:27:56.240>every <01:27:56.380>day <01:27:56.520>and <01:27:56.660>it <01:27:56.800>almost <01:27:56.940>everything <01:27:57.080>you <01:27:57.220>do <01:27:57.360>or <01:27:57.500>for

1761
01:27:59.500 --> 01:28:04.800
<01:27:59.500>example <01:27:59.733>on <01:27:59.966>then <01:28:00.200>when <01:28:00.433>you <01:28:00.666>I'm <01:28:00.900>walks

1762
01:28:02.800 --> 01:28:05.100
<01:28:02.800>through <01:28:03.500>the <01:28:04.200>city

1763
01:28:05.100 --> 01:28:09.000
<01:28:05.100>and <01:28:05.216>you <01:28:05.333>go <01:28:05.450>shopping <01:28:05.566>then <01:28:05.683>you <01:28:05.800>know, <01:28:05.916>okay, <01:28:06.033>that's <01:28:06.150>the <01:28:06.266>electricity. <01:28:06.383>Okay, <01:28:06.500>like

1764
01:28:08.700 --> 01:28:11.500
<01:28:08.700>colleagues <01:28:08.980>made <01:28:09.260>it <01:28:09.540>okay, <01:28:09.820>but <01:28:10.099>I

1765
01:28:11.500 --> 01:28:15.000
<01:28:11.500>want <01:28:11.627>to <01:28:11.754>drink <01:28:11.881>something <01:28:12.009>that's <01:28:12.136>a <01:28:12.263>water. <01:28:12.390>Ah, <01:28:12.518>okay <01:28:12.645>my <01:28:12.772>colleagues <01:28:12.900>then

1766
01:28:14.500 --> 01:28:17.100
<01:28:14.500>you <01:28:14.780>go <01:28:15.060>by <01:28:15.340>bus <01:28:15.620>or <01:28:15.900>by

1767
01:28:17.100 --> 01:28:20.700
<01:28:17.100>drum <01:28:17.255>wire <01:28:17.411>or <01:28:17.566>so <01:28:17.722>and <01:28:17.877>you <01:28:18.033>say <01:28:18.188>okay. <01:28:18.344>That's <01:28:18.500>a

1768
01:28:20.700 --> 01:28:23.300
<01:28:20.700>colleague. <01:28:20.840>Yes <01:28:20.980>your <01:28:21.120>driver. <01:28:21.260>That's <01:28:21.400>a <01:28:21.540>colleague <01:28:21.679>of <01:28:21.820>mine <01:28:21.960>and <01:28:22.099>so

1769
01:28:23.300 --> 01:28:26.400
<01:28:23.300>it <01:28:23.427>goes <01:28:23.554>on <01:28:23.681>and <01:28:23.809>on <01:28:23.936>and <01:28:24.063>I <01:28:24.190>think <01:28:24.318>that <01:28:24.445>that <01:28:24.572>the <01:28:24.700>most

1770
01:28:26.400 --> 01:28:29.100
<01:28:26.400>cool <01:28:26.599>thing <01:28:26.799>to <01:28:27.000>work <01:28:27.200>at <01:28:27.400>the <01:28:27.599>dish <01:28:27.799>that

1771
01:28:29.100 --> 01:28:29.700
<01:28:29.100>very <01:28:29.639>unique.

1772
01:28:33.100 --> 01:28:37.300
<01:28:33.100>Did <01:28:33.380>I <01:28:33.660>can <01:28:33.940>100% <01:28:34.220>Can <01:28:34.500>100%

1773
01:28:36.300 --> 01:28:40.800
<01:28:36.300>support <01:28:36.580>this <01:28:36.860>because <01:28:37.140>it's <01:28:37.420>yeah <01:28:37.700>your

1774
01:28:39.800 --> 01:28:42.500
<01:28:39.800>your <01:28:40.266>work <01:28:40.733>your <01:28:41.200>work

1775
01:28:42.500 --> 01:28:46.700
<01:28:42.500>has <01:28:42.655>a <01:28:42.811>real <01:28:42.966>sense <01:28:43.122>and <01:28:43.277>you <01:28:43.433>know <01:28:43.588>that <01:28:43.744>that <01:28:43.900>I

1776
01:28:45.700 --> 01:28:48.800
<01:28:45.700>mean <01:28:45.933>the <01:28:46.166>good <01:28:46.400>thing <01:28:46.633>is <01:28:46.866>despite <01:28:47.099>all

1777
01:28:48.800 --> 01:28:52.100
<01:28:48.800>money <01:28:49.080>despite <01:28:49.360>all <01:28:49.640>what <01:28:49.920>happening, <01:28:50.200>you

1778
01:28:51.100 --> 01:28:54.900
<01:28:51.100>know, <01:28:51.333>your <01:28:51.566>work <01:28:51.800>will <01:28:52.033>be <01:28:52.266>required <01:28:52.500>in

1779
01:28:54.900 --> 01:28:57.100
<01:28:54.900>one <01:28:55.099>year <01:28:55.299>in <01:28:55.500>10 <01:28:55.700>year <01:28:55.900>in <01:28:56.099>50 <01:28:56.299>years.

1780
01:28:57.100 --> 01:29:00.500
<01:28:57.100>As <01:28:57.275>long <01:28:57.450>as <01:28:57.625>the <01:28:57.800>city <01:28:57.975>of <01:28:58.150>Munich <01:28:58.325>will <01:28:58.500>exist.

1781
01:29:00.500 --> 01:29:01.200
<01:29:00.500>It <01:29:01.130>will

1782
01:29:02.300 --> 01:29:06.300
<01:29:02.300>it <01:29:02.440>will <01:29:02.580>need <01:29:02.720>the <01:29:02.860>network. <01:29:03.000>It <01:29:03.140>will <01:29:03.280>need <01:29:03.420>the <01:29:03.560>mobility <01:29:03.700>mobility

1783
01:29:05.300 --> 01:29:08.100
<01:29:05.300>and <01:29:05.500>things <01:29:05.700>like <01:29:05.900>that. <01:29:06.100>So <01:29:06.300>this <01:29:06.500>is <01:29:06.700>really

1784
01:29:09.100 --> 01:29:12.500
<01:29:09.100>It <01:29:09.275>feels <01:29:09.450>quite <01:29:09.625>good <01:29:09.800>and <01:29:09.975>what <01:29:10.150>I <01:29:10.325>personally <01:29:10.500>like

1785
01:29:12.500 --> 01:29:15.700
<01:29:12.500>also <01:29:12.700>we <01:29:12.900>are <01:29:13.100>not <01:29:13.300>a <01:29:13.500>profit <01:29:13.700>driven <01:29:13.900>company.

1786
01:29:15.700 --> 01:29:19.300
<01:29:15.700>So <01:29:15.933>we <01:29:16.166>are <01:29:16.400>owned <01:29:16.633>by <01:29:16.866>the <01:29:17.099>town

1787
01:29:18.300 --> 01:29:21.200
<01:29:18.300>of <01:29:18.650>Munich. <01:29:19.000>And <01:29:19.350>of <01:29:19.700>course

1788
01:29:21.200 --> 01:29:24.900
<01:29:21.200>we <01:29:21.400>need <01:29:21.599>to <01:29:21.800>be <01:29:22.000>economic <01:29:22.200>and <01:29:22.400>we <01:29:22.599>need

1789
01:29:24.900 --> 01:29:27.400
<01:29:24.900>to <01:29:25.075>earn <01:29:25.250>our <01:29:25.424>money. <01:29:25.599>So <01:29:25.775>no <01:29:25.950>question <01:29:26.125>about <01:29:26.299>that.

1790
01:29:27.400 --> 01:29:31.600
<01:29:27.400>We <01:29:27.599>are <01:29:27.799>not <01:29:28.000>a <01:29:28.200>welfare, <01:29:28.400>but <01:29:28.599>still <01:29:28.799>it's

1791
01:29:31.600 --> 01:29:32.000
it's

1792
01:29:33.100 --> 01:29:36.300
<01:29:33.100>Earning <01:29:33.300>money <01:29:33.500>is <01:29:33.700>not <01:29:33.900>the <01:29:34.100>only <01:29:34.300>task <01:29:34.500>we

1793
01:29:36.300 --> 01:29:37.500
<01:29:36.300>have <01:29:36.570>on <01:29:36.840>our <01:29:37.110>task <01:29:37.380>list.

1794
01:29:38.200 --> 01:29:41.300
<01:29:38.200>It's <01:29:38.327>one <01:29:38.454>of <01:29:38.581>the <01:29:38.709>tasks <01:29:38.836>we <01:29:38.963>need <01:29:39.090>to <01:29:39.218>do <01:29:39.345>but <01:29:39.472>it's <01:29:39.599>not

1795
01:29:41.300 --> 01:29:44.200
<01:29:41.300>our <01:29:41.533>absolutely <01:29:41.766>top <01:29:42.000>priority <01:29:42.233>where <01:29:42.466>we <01:29:42.700>say

1796
01:29:44.200 --> 01:29:47.100
<01:29:44.200>every <01:29:44.433>Everything <01:29:44.666>other <01:29:44.900>is <01:29:45.133>is <01:29:45.366>doesn't <01:29:45.599>matter.

1797
01:29:47.800 --> 01:29:50.800
<01:29:47.800>And <01:29:47.975>I <01:29:48.150>think <01:29:48.325>this <01:29:48.500>is <01:29:48.675>something <01:29:48.850>yeah, <01:29:49.025>this <01:29:49.200>feels

1798
01:29:50.800 --> 01:29:51.300
<01:29:50.800>very <01:29:51.250>good.

1799
01:29:53.100 --> 01:29:54.800
<01:29:53.100>And <01:29:53.450>yeah, <01:29:53.800>I <01:29:54.150>would <01:29:54.500>like

1800
01:29:56.300 --> 01:29:56.900
<01:29:56.300>to <01:29:56.570>that <01:29:56.840>what?

1801
01:29:59.600 --> 01:30:02.500
<01:29:59.600>Would <01:29:59.775>like <01:29:59.950>to <01:30:00.125>to <01:30:00.300>tell <01:30:00.475>a <01:30:00.650>little <01:30:00.825>bit <01:30:01.000>about

1802
01:30:02.500 --> 01:30:05.300
<01:30:02.500>the <01:30:02.733>benefits <01:30:02.966>and <01:30:03.200>I <01:30:03.433>think <01:30:03.666>one <01:30:03.900>one

1803
01:30:05.300 --> 01:30:08.800
<01:30:05.300>benefit <01:30:05.580>is <01:30:05.860>that <01:30:06.140>we <01:30:06.420>offer <01:30:06.700>almost

1804
01:30:08.800 --> 01:30:11.500
<01:30:08.800>all <01:30:09.500>proficient <01:30:10.200>Unlimited.

1805
01:30:12.200 --> 01:30:15.300
<01:30:12.200>And <01:30:12.433>we <01:30:12.666>offer <01:30:12.900>these <01:30:13.133>positions <01:30:13.366>on <01:30:13.599>a

1806
01:30:15.300 --> 01:30:18.300
<01:30:15.300>very <01:30:15.533>secure <01:30:15.766>and <01:30:16.000>stable <01:30:16.233>situation. <01:30:16.466>So <01:30:16.700>we

1807
01:30:18.300 --> 01:30:21.100
<01:30:18.300>know <01:30:18.475>that <01:30:18.650>there <01:30:18.825>will <01:30:19.000>be <01:30:19.175>stopping <01:30:19.350>Munich <01:30:19.525>will <01:30:19.700>be

1808
01:30:21.100 --> 01:30:24.600
<01:30:21.100>forever. <01:30:21.566>There's <01:30:22.033>no <01:30:22.500>problem

1809
01:30:24.600 --> 01:30:27.700
<01:30:24.600>and <01:30:24.800>these <01:30:25.000>jobs <01:30:25.200>so <01:30:25.400>it's <01:30:25.600>very <01:30:25.800>stable. <01:30:26.000>It's

1810
01:30:27.700 --> 01:30:31.900
<01:30:27.700>very <01:30:27.875>secure <01:30:28.050>situation. <01:30:28.224>And <01:30:28.400>of <01:30:28.575>course <01:30:28.750>we <01:30:28.925>pay <01:30:29.099>money.

1811
01:30:33.200 --> 01:30:36.400
<01:30:33.200>And <01:30:33.355>we <01:30:33.511>have <01:30:33.666>a <01:30:33.822>lot <01:30:33.977>of <01:30:34.133>other <01:30:34.288>benefits, <01:30:34.444>for <01:30:34.599>example,

1812
01:30:36.400 --> 01:30:40.300
<01:30:36.400>there's <01:30:36.633>a <01:30:36.866>discount <01:30:37.099>on <01:30:37.333>electricity <01:30:37.566>or <01:30:37.799>there's

1813
01:30:39.300 --> 01:30:43.600
<01:30:39.300>a <01:30:39.766>discounted <01:30:40.233>tickets <01:30:40.700>for

1814
01:30:43.600 --> 01:30:46.900
<01:30:43.600>for <01:30:43.833>the <01:30:44.066>public <01:30:44.300>transport <01:30:44.533>and <01:30:44.766>and <01:30:45.000>there

1815
01:30:46.900 --> 01:30:49.000
<01:30:46.900>are <01:30:47.133>some <01:30:47.366>other <01:30:47.599>benefits <01:30:47.833>and <01:30:48.066>there's <01:30:48.299>a

1816
01:30:49.200 --> 01:30:52.000
<01:30:49.200>Company <01:30:49.666>pension <01:30:50.133>scheme. <01:30:50.599>So

1817
01:30:52.100 --> 01:30:55.600
<01:30:52.100>we <01:30:52.333>pay <01:30:52.566>for <01:30:52.800>a <01:30:53.033>pension <01:30:53.266>that's <01:30:53.500>normal

1818
01:30:55.600 --> 01:30:59.200
<01:30:55.600>for <01:30:55.755>us <01:30:55.911>and <01:30:56.066>we <01:30:56.222>do <01:30:56.377>it <01:30:56.533>for <01:30:56.688>all <01:30:56.844>our <01:30:57.000>people.

1819
01:30:58.200 --> 01:31:02.600
<01:30:58.200>So <01:30:58.550>I <01:30:58.900>think <01:30:59.250>that <01:30:59.599>a

1820
01:31:01.600 --> 01:31:05.300
<01:31:01.600>little <01:31:01.833>bit <01:31:02.066>about <01:31:02.300>the <01:31:02.533>benefits <01:31:02.766>really <01:31:03.000>cool

1821
01:31:05.300 --> 01:31:08.600
<01:31:05.300>benefits <01:31:05.440>also <01:31:05.580>like <01:31:05.720>for <01:31:05.860>the <01:31:06.000>electrical <01:31:06.140>bill <01:31:06.280>now <01:31:06.420>what <01:31:06.560>days <01:31:06.700>I

1822
01:31:08.600 --> 01:31:11.900
<01:31:08.600>think <01:31:08.755>that <01:31:08.911>could <01:31:09.066>be <01:31:09.222>a <01:31:09.377>major <01:31:09.533>selling <01:31:09.688>point <01:31:09.844>and <01:31:10.000>so

1823
01:31:13.200 --> 01:31:14.500
<01:31:13.200>and <01:31:13.590>yeah, <01:31:13.980>and <01:31:14.370>so

1824
01:31:15.400 --> 01:31:18.500
<01:31:15.400>As <01:31:15.575>you're <01:31:15.750>taking <01:31:15.924>care <01:31:16.099>of <01:31:16.275>the <01:31:16.450>security <01:31:16.625>every <01:31:16.799>citizen

1825
01:31:18.500 --> 01:31:22.200
<01:31:18.500>of <01:31:18.850>Munich <01:31:19.200>is <01:31:19.550>needs <01:31:19.900>your

1826
01:31:21.200 --> 01:31:24.200
<01:31:21.200>work <01:31:21.355>in <01:31:21.511>one <01:31:21.666>way <01:31:21.822>or <01:31:21.977>another. <01:31:22.133>So <01:31:22.288>that's <01:31:22.444>I <01:31:22.599>think

1827
01:31:24.200 --> 01:31:27.700
<01:31:24.200>that's <01:31:24.375>also <01:31:24.550>very <01:31:24.724>maybe <01:31:24.900>a <01:31:25.075>pushing <01:31:25.250>point <01:31:25.425>and <01:31:25.599>as

1828
01:31:27.700 --> 01:31:30.500
<01:31:27.700>long <01:31:27.827>as <01:31:27.954>Munich <01:31:28.081>exists <01:31:28.209>and <01:31:28.336>if <01:31:28.463>you're <01:31:28.590>in <01:31:28.718>a <01:31:28.845>face <01:31:28.972>when <01:31:29.099>if

1829
01:31:30.500 --> 01:31:34.700
<01:31:30.500>we <01:31:30.627>are <01:31:30.754>in <01:31:30.881>a <01:31:31.009>place <01:31:31.136>where <01:31:31.263>like <01:31:31.390>a <01:31:31.518>cities <01:31:31.645>like <01:31:31.772>Munich <01:31:31.900>thesis

1830
01:31:33.700 --> 01:31:36.700
<01:31:33.700>to <01:31:33.900>exist <01:31:34.099>I <01:31:34.300>think <01:31:34.500>people <01:31:34.700>have <01:31:34.900>other <01:31:35.099>problems

1831
01:31:36.700 --> 01:31:39.200
<01:31:36.700>then <01:31:36.875>finding <01:31:37.050>jobs. <01:31:37.224>So <01:31:37.400>I <01:31:37.575>think <01:31:37.750>that's <01:31:37.925>a <01:31:38.099>very

1832
01:31:39.200 --> 01:31:40.100
<01:31:39.200>good <01:31:39.605>point <01:31:40.010>also.

1833
01:31:42.500 --> 01:31:45.500
<01:31:42.500>Maybe <01:31:42.675>also <01:31:42.850>a <01:31:43.025>bit <01:31:43.200>of <01:31:43.375>connected <01:31:43.550>to <01:31:43.725>that <01:31:43.900>question

1834
01:31:45.500 --> 01:31:48.300
<01:31:45.500>mark <01:31:45.780>wants <01:31:46.060>to <01:31:46.340>know <01:31:46.620>how <01:31:46.900>does

1835
01:31:48.300 --> 01:31:51.300
<01:31:48.300>the <01:31:48.500>company <01:31:48.700>approach <01:31:48.900>diversity <01:31:49.100>and <01:31:49.300>inclusion <01:31:49.500>in <01:31:49.700>their

1836
01:31:51.300 --> 01:31:52.100
<01:31:51.300>hiring <01:31:52.020>process?

1837
01:31:54.500 --> 01:31:57.600
<01:31:54.500>That's <01:31:54.616>a <01:31:54.733>very <01:31:54.850>good <01:31:54.966>very <01:31:55.083>good <01:31:55.200>question. <01:31:55.316>Thank <01:31:55.433>you <01:31:55.550>very <01:31:55.666>much <01:31:55.783>Mark <01:31:55.900>for

1838
01:31:57.600 --> 01:32:00.800
<01:31:57.600>this <01:31:57.950>question. <01:31:58.300>So <01:31:58.650>we <01:31:59.000>think

1839
01:32:00.800 --> 01:32:04.500
<01:32:00.800>that <01:32:01.080>that <01:32:01.360>we <01:32:01.640>are <01:32:01.920>a <01:32:02.200>company

1840
01:32:03.500 --> 01:32:07.200
<01:32:03.500>who <01:32:03.966>likes <01:32:04.433>diversity. <01:32:04.900>So

1841
01:32:06.200 --> 01:32:09.800
<01:32:06.200>we <01:32:06.666>are <01:32:07.133>proud <01:32:07.599>come

1842
01:32:09.800 --> 01:32:14.200
<01:32:09.800>you <01:32:09.955>community. <01:32:10.111>We <01:32:10.266>have <01:32:10.422>a <01:32:10.577>proud <01:32:10.733>community <01:32:10.888>and <01:32:11.044>in <01:32:11.200>hiring

1843
01:32:13.200 --> 01:32:19.200
<01:32:13.200>so <01:32:13.400>we <01:32:13.599>make <01:32:13.800>no <01:32:14.000>difference <01:32:14.200>between <01:32:14.400>nationality <01:32:14.599>or

1844
01:32:18.200 --> 01:32:21.300
<01:32:18.200>age <01:32:18.550>or <01:32:18.900>anything <01:32:19.250>else. <01:32:19.599>For

1845
01:32:21.300 --> 01:32:25.100
<01:32:21.300>example, <01:32:21.580>we <01:32:21.860>have <01:32:22.140>almost <01:32:22.420>18 <01:32:22.700>nationalities

1846
01:32:24.100 --> 01:32:25.800
<01:32:24.100>in <01:32:24.800>our <01:32:25.500>company.

1847
01:32:26.600 --> 01:32:30.000
<01:32:26.600>Of <01:32:26.833>course, <01:32:27.066>they <01:32:27.300>speak <01:32:27.533>German <01:32:27.766>but <01:32:28.000>an

1848
01:32:29.200 --> 01:32:32.800
<01:32:29.200>18 <01:32:29.480>nationality. <01:32:29.760>So <01:32:30.040>that's <01:32:30.320>very <01:32:30.599>very

1849
01:32:32.800 --> 01:32:35.600
<01:32:32.800>normal <01:32:33.080>to <01:32:33.360>meet <01:32:33.640>people <01:32:33.920>who <01:32:34.200>are

1850
01:32:35.600 --> 01:32:38.900
<01:32:35.600>not <01:32:35.880>German <01:32:36.160>here. <01:32:36.440>And <01:32:36.720>yes, <01:32:37.000>we

1851
01:32:38.900 --> 01:32:41.600
<01:32:38.900>have <01:32:39.250>this <01:32:39.599>proud <01:32:39.950>community <01:32:40.299>and

1852
01:32:43.200 --> 01:32:46.300
<01:32:43.200>Yes, <01:32:43.327>for <01:32:43.454>example, <01:32:43.581>maybe <01:32:43.709>you <01:32:43.836>know <01:32:43.963>that <01:32:44.090>there <01:32:44.218>will <01:32:44.345>be <01:32:44.472>Christopher <01:32:44.599>Street

1853
01:32:46.300 --> 01:32:49.600
<01:32:46.300>Day <01:32:46.455>in <01:32:46.611>June <01:32:46.766>in <01:32:46.922>Munich <01:32:47.077>and <01:32:47.233>our <01:32:47.388>executive <01:32:47.544>board <01:32:47.700>will

1854
01:32:49.600 --> 01:32:52.800
<01:32:49.600>take <01:32:49.800>care <01:32:50.000>of <01:32:50.200>part <01:32:50.400>on <01:32:50.600>this <01:32:50.800>first <01:32:51.000>of

1855
01:32:52.800 --> 01:32:55.300
<01:32:52.800>a <01:32:52.927>street <01:32:53.054>day. <01:32:53.181>We <01:32:53.309>will <01:32:53.436>be <01:32:53.563>there <01:32:53.690>with <01:32:53.818>the <01:32:53.945>company <01:32:54.072>and <01:32:54.200>was

1856
01:32:55.300 --> 01:32:58.200
<01:32:55.300>a <01:32:55.427>lot <01:32:55.554>of <01:32:55.681>people <01:32:55.809>out <01:32:55.936>of <01:32:56.063>our <01:32:56.190>company. <01:32:56.318>That's <01:32:56.445>a <01:32:56.572>it's <01:32:56.700>a

1857
01:32:58.200 --> 01:33:01.800
<01:32:58.200>big <01:32:58.340>event <01:32:58.480>for <01:32:58.620>our <01:32:58.760>company. <01:32:58.900>We <01:32:59.040>will <01:32:59.179>join <01:32:59.320>there. <01:32:59.460>We've <01:32:59.599>been

1858
01:33:01.800 --> 01:33:04.400
<01:33:01.800>there <01:33:02.000>last <01:33:02.200>time <01:33:02.400>I <01:33:02.600>think <01:33:02.800>over <01:33:03.000>100 <01:33:03.200>people

1859
01:33:04.400 --> 01:33:06.500
<01:33:04.400>have <01:33:04.750>been <01:33:05.099>there. <01:33:05.450>And <01:33:05.799>yes.

1860
01:33:08.400 --> 01:33:11.700
<01:33:08.400>Do <01:33:08.599>you <01:33:08.799>have <01:33:09.000>that <01:33:09.200>that's <01:33:09.400>yes, <01:33:09.599>very <01:33:09.799>nice

1861
01:33:11.700 --> 01:33:14.300
<01:33:11.700>thing. <01:33:11.900>So <01:33:12.099>you're <01:33:12.300>not <01:33:12.500>only <01:33:12.700>promoting <01:33:12.900>diversity. <01:33:13.099>You

1862
01:33:14.300 --> 01:33:17.600
<01:33:14.300>are <01:33:14.440>really <01:33:14.580>living <01:33:14.720>it. <01:33:14.860>It's <01:33:15.000>your <01:33:15.140>company <01:33:15.280>and <01:33:15.420>that's <01:33:15.560>that's <01:33:15.700>a

1863
01:33:17.600 --> 01:33:20.400
<01:33:17.600>really <01:33:17.880>nice <01:33:18.160>thing <01:33:18.440>to <01:33:18.720>hear <01:33:19.000>and

1864
01:33:22.500 --> 01:33:25.300
<01:33:22.500>Cycling <01:33:22.675>back <01:33:22.850>to <01:33:23.025>the <01:33:23.200>to <01:33:23.375>the <01:33:23.550>candidates. <01:33:23.725>I'm <01:33:23.900>not

1865
01:33:25.300 --> 01:33:28.400
<01:33:25.300>want <01:33:25.440>to <01:33:25.580>know <01:33:25.720>what <01:33:25.860>qualities <01:33:26.000>do <01:33:26.140>you <01:33:26.280>look <01:33:26.420>for <01:33:26.560>in <01:33:26.700>a

1866
01:33:28.400 --> 01:33:30.600
<01:33:28.400>candidate <01:33:28.750>beyond <01:33:29.099>the <01:33:29.450>technical <01:33:29.799>skills?

1867
01:33:33.200 --> 01:33:36.200
<01:33:33.200>Um, <01:33:33.340>that's <01:33:33.480>a <01:33:33.620>very <01:33:33.760>good <01:33:33.900>question <01:33:34.040>that's <01:33:34.179>concerned <01:33:34.320>with <01:33:34.460>a <01:33:34.599>social

1868
01:33:36.200 --> 01:33:40.000
<01:33:36.200>soft <01:33:36.433>skills. <01:33:36.666>And <01:33:36.900>I <01:33:37.133>think <01:33:37.366>first <01:33:37.599>of

1869
01:33:39.300 --> 01:33:42.500
<01:33:39.300>all, <01:33:39.650>it's <01:33:40.000>it's <01:33:40.350>very <01:33:40.700>important

1870
01:33:42.500 --> 01:33:45.200
<01:33:42.500>to <01:33:43.200>like <01:33:43.900>to

1871
01:33:45.200 --> 01:33:48.500
<01:33:45.200>work <01:33:45.355>in <01:33:45.511>the <01:33:45.666>team <01:33:45.822>at <01:33:45.977>this <01:33:46.133>capability <01:33:46.288>to <01:33:46.444>work <01:33:46.599>together

1872
01:33:48.500 --> 01:33:51.400
<01:33:48.500>to <01:33:48.640>work <01:33:48.780>in <01:33:48.920>the <01:33:49.060>team <01:33:49.200>as <01:33:49.340>well <01:33:49.480>as <01:33:49.620>to <01:33:49.760>work <01:33:49.900>alone,

1873
01:33:51.400 --> 01:33:54.700
<01:33:51.400>but <01:33:51.555>we <01:33:51.711>like <01:33:51.866>it <01:33:52.022>to <01:33:52.177>work <01:33:52.333>together <01:33:52.488>in <01:33:52.644>a <01:33:52.799>different

1874
01:33:54.700 --> 01:33:57.100
<01:33:54.700>parts. <01:33:54.933>And <01:33:55.166>so <01:33:55.400>this <01:33:55.633>is <01:33:55.866>one <01:33:56.099>thing

1875
01:33:57.100 --> 01:34:00.400
<01:33:57.100>that <01:33:57.240>is <01:33:57.380>very <01:33:57.520>very <01:33:57.660>important <01:33:57.800>for <01:33:57.940>us <01:33:58.080>and <01:33:58.220>then <01:33:58.360>we <01:33:58.500>like

1876
01:34:00.400 --> 01:34:03.500
<01:34:00.400>to <01:34:00.599>communicate <01:34:00.799>and <01:34:01.000>so <01:34:01.200>we <01:34:01.400>need <01:34:01.599>people <01:34:01.799>who

1877
01:34:03.500 --> 01:34:07.200
<01:34:03.500>can <01:34:03.850>communities <01:34:04.200>from <01:34:04.550>and <01:34:04.900>who

1878
01:34:06.200 --> 01:34:10.300
<01:34:06.200>liked <01:34:06.550>communicate <01:34:06.900>and <01:34:07.250>that's <01:34:07.599>also

1879
01:34:09.300 --> 01:34:12.000
<01:34:09.300>very <01:34:09.650>very <01:34:10.000>important <01:34:10.350>for <01:34:10.700>us.

1880
01:34:14.900 --> 01:34:17.800
<01:34:14.900>yeah, <01:34:15.055>and <01:34:15.211>I <01:34:15.366>I <01:34:15.522>think <01:34:15.677>what <01:34:15.833>I <01:34:15.988>always <01:34:16.144>have <01:34:16.299>a

1881
01:34:17.800 --> 01:34:18.100
<01:34:17.800>look <01:34:18.070>is

1882
01:34:19.400 --> 01:34:22.700
<01:34:19.400>I <01:34:19.633>like <01:34:19.866>self <01:34:20.099>motivated <01:34:20.333>people. <01:34:20.566>So <01:34:20.799>in

1883
01:34:22.700 --> 01:34:24.600
<01:34:22.700>in <01:34:23.166>static <01:34:23.633>Munich, <01:34:24.099>it's

1884
01:34:25.900 --> 01:34:28.400
<01:34:25.900>It's <01:34:26.099>not <01:34:26.299>the <01:34:26.500>case <01:34:26.700>that <01:34:26.900>your <01:34:27.099>boss <01:34:27.299>is

1885
01:34:28.400 --> 01:34:31.100
<01:34:28.400>standing <01:34:28.507>behind <01:34:28.615>you <01:34:28.723>and <01:34:28.830>pushing <01:34:28.938>you <01:34:29.046>you <01:34:29.153>have <01:34:29.261>to <01:34:29.369>do <01:34:29.476>this <01:34:29.584>and <01:34:29.692>you <01:34:29.799>have

1886
01:34:31.100 --> 01:34:34.500
<01:34:31.100>to <01:34:31.300>do <01:34:31.500>that <01:34:31.700>and <01:34:31.900>you <01:34:32.100>and <01:34:32.300>how <01:34:32.500>you

1887
01:34:34.500 --> 01:34:37.200
<01:34:34.500>made <01:34:34.616>10 <01:34:34.733>minutes <01:34:34.850>of <01:34:34.966>a <01:34:35.083>break. <01:34:35.200>I'll <01:34:35.316>know <01:34:35.433>that's <01:34:35.550>not <01:34:35.666>possible. <01:34:35.783>So <01:34:35.900>this

1888
01:34:37.200 --> 01:34:41.000
<01:34:37.200>is <01:34:37.327>not <01:34:37.454>the <01:34:37.581>style <01:34:37.709>we <01:34:37.836>are <01:34:37.963>working. <01:34:38.090>So <01:34:38.218>we're <01:34:38.345>really <01:34:38.472>looking <01:34:38.599>we're

1889
01:34:40.200 --> 01:34:43.700
<01:34:40.200>giving <01:34:40.433>people <01:34:40.666>Freedom. <01:34:40.900>We're <01:34:41.133>giving <01:34:41.366>them <01:34:41.599>flexibility

1890
01:34:43.700 --> 01:34:46.400
<01:34:43.700>and <01:34:43.980>we <01:34:44.260>really <01:34:44.540>enjoy <01:34:44.820>it <01:34:45.099>if

1891
01:34:46.400 --> 01:34:50.000
<01:34:46.400>they <01:34:46.633>organize <01:34:46.866>themselves <01:34:47.099>if <01:34:47.333>they <01:34:47.566>if <01:34:47.799>they

1892
01:34:49.200 --> 01:34:52.400
<01:34:49.200>really <01:34:49.355>come <01:34:49.511>back <01:34:49.666>with <01:34:49.822>the <01:34:49.977>result <01:34:50.133>and <01:34:50.288>say <01:34:50.444>okay. <01:34:50.599>This

1893
01:34:52.400 --> 01:34:55.100
<01:34:52.400>is <01:34:52.507>how <01:34:52.615>we <01:34:52.723>how <01:34:52.830>we <01:34:52.938>did <01:34:53.046>it <01:34:53.153>and <01:34:53.261>how <01:34:53.369>we <01:34:53.476>figured <01:34:53.584>it <01:34:53.692>out <01:34:53.799>and

1894
01:34:55.800 --> 01:34:58.300
<01:34:55.800>It <01:34:55.940>for <01:34:56.080>us <01:34:56.220>it <01:34:56.360>turned <01:34:56.500>out <01:34:56.640>that <01:34:56.780>this <01:34:56.920>is <01:34:57.060>the <01:34:57.200>most

1895
01:34:58.300 --> 01:35:00.000
<01:34:58.300>the <01:34:58.580>best <01:34:58.860>way <01:34:59.140>for <01:34:59.420>both <01:34:59.700>parties.

1896
01:35:03.100 --> 01:35:07.400
<01:35:03.100>Yeah, <01:35:03.240>sounds <01:35:03.380>very <01:35:03.520>reasonable <01:35:03.660>to <01:35:03.800>me <01:35:03.940>as <01:35:04.080>at <01:35:04.220>least <01:35:04.360>and <01:35:04.500>also

1897
01:35:06.400 --> 01:35:09.200
<01:35:06.400>kind <01:35:06.633>of <01:35:06.866>connected <01:35:07.099>to <01:35:07.333>the <01:35:07.566>to <01:35:07.799>the

1898
01:35:09.200 --> 01:35:12.300
<01:35:09.200>skills <01:35:09.480>Kevin <01:35:09.760>from <01:35:10.040>Belgium <01:35:10.320>wants <01:35:10.599>to

1899
01:35:12.300 --> 01:35:15.800
<01:35:12.300>know <01:35:12.475>if <01:35:12.650>it's <01:35:12.825>important <01:35:13.000>to <01:35:13.175>know <01:35:13.350>programming <01:35:13.525>language. <01:35:13.700>So

1900
01:35:15.800 --> 01:35:18.300
<01:35:15.800>I <01:35:16.000>think <01:35:16.200>it <01:35:16.400>would <01:35:16.600>depend <01:35:16.800>on <01:35:17.000>their <01:35:17.200>job

1901
01:35:18.300 --> 01:35:21.300
<01:35:18.300>offer. <01:35:18.427>But <01:35:18.554>maybe <01:35:18.681>you <01:35:18.809>can <01:35:18.936>give <01:35:19.063>us <01:35:19.190>some <01:35:19.318>inside <01:35:19.445>of <01:35:19.572>their <01:35:19.700>also

1902
01:35:21.300 --> 01:35:25.400
<01:35:21.300>it <01:35:21.455>shops <01:35:21.611>where <01:35:21.766>you <01:35:21.922>don't <01:35:22.077>have <01:35:22.233>to <01:35:22.388>know <01:35:22.544>any <01:35:22.700>special

1903
01:35:25.400 --> 01:35:27.500
<01:35:25.400>programming <01:35:26.799>language.

1904
01:35:34.700 --> 01:35:37.500
<01:35:34.700>Have <01:35:35.050>to <01:35:35.400>know <01:35:35.750>these <01:35:36.099>program

1905
01:35:37.500 --> 01:35:40.600
<01:35:37.500>language <01:35:37.700>as <01:35:37.900>deep <01:35:38.100>as <01:35:38.300>for <01:35:38.500>example <01:35:38.700>for <01:35:38.900>for

1906
01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:43.800
<01:35:40.600>developers. <01:35:40.833>Of <01:35:41.066>course, <01:35:41.300>there <01:35:41.533>are <01:35:41.766>such <01:35:42.000>positions

1907
01:35:43.800 --> 01:35:46.100
<01:35:43.800>as <01:35:44.000>I <01:35:44.200>mentioned <01:35:44.400>before <01:35:44.600>we <01:35:44.800>have <01:35:45.000>a <01:35:45.200>lot

1908
01:35:46.100 --> 01:35:49.700
<01:35:46.100>of <01:35:46.300>open <01:35:46.500>positions, <01:35:46.700>but <01:35:46.900>I <01:35:47.100>think <01:35:47.300>for <01:35:47.500>security

1909
01:35:49.700 --> 01:35:52.800
<01:35:49.700>you <01:35:49.980>have <01:35:50.260>to <01:35:50.540>need <01:35:50.820>an <01:35:51.099>understanding

1910
01:35:52.800 --> 01:35:55.700
<01:35:52.800>for <01:35:53.080>programming <01:35:53.360>language <01:35:53.640>and <01:35:53.920>understanding <01:35:54.200>how

1911
01:35:55.700 --> 01:35:56.300
<01:35:55.700>they <01:35:56.240>work.

1912
01:35:56.800 --> 01:35:59.400
<01:35:56.800>I <01:35:56.975>think <01:35:57.150>that <01:35:57.325>that's <01:35:57.500>maybe <01:35:57.675>it's <01:35:57.850>it's <01:35:58.025>more <01:35:58.200>important

1913
01:35:59.400 --> 01:36:02.500
<01:35:59.400>than <01:35:59.633>to <01:35:59.866>know <01:36:00.099>special <01:36:00.333>one <01:36:00.566>or <01:36:00.799>another

1914
01:36:02.500 --> 01:36:05.500
<01:36:02.500>programming <01:36:02.850>language <01:36:03.200>or <01:36:03.550>what <01:36:03.900>do

1915
01:36:05.500 --> 01:36:05.500
<01:36:05.500>you <01:36:05.500>think?

1916
01:36:06.200 --> 01:36:09.500
<01:36:06.200>Yes, <01:36:06.327>I <01:36:06.454>think <01:36:06.581>like <01:36:06.709>you <01:36:06.836>said <01:36:06.963>we <01:36:07.090>have <01:36:07.218>of <01:36:07.345>course <01:36:07.472>positions <01:36:07.599>where

1917
01:36:09.500 --> 01:36:11.900
<01:36:09.500>you <01:36:09.655>need <01:36:09.811>to <01:36:09.966>have <01:36:10.122>the <01:36:10.277>knowledge <01:36:10.433>of <01:36:10.588>a <01:36:10.744>certain <01:36:10.900>language.

1918
01:36:12.700 --> 01:36:15.200
<01:36:12.700>In <01:36:12.855>our <01:36:13.011>case <01:36:13.166>what <01:36:13.322>I <01:36:13.477>said, <01:36:13.633>we <01:36:13.788>are <01:36:13.944>a <01:36:14.099>little

1919
01:36:15.200 --> 01:36:19.100
<01:36:15.200>bit <01:36:15.316>more <01:36:15.433>on <01:36:15.550>the <01:36:15.666>system <01:36:15.783>integrators. <01:36:15.900>So <01:36:16.016>we <01:36:16.133>need <01:36:16.250>to <01:36:16.366>understand <01:36:16.483>what <01:36:16.599>what's

1920
01:36:18.100 --> 01:36:19.300
happening.

1921
01:36:20.200 --> 01:36:23.400
<01:36:20.200>And <01:36:20.400>when <01:36:20.599>I <01:36:20.800>have <01:36:21.000>a <01:36:21.200>look <01:36:21.400>to <01:36:21.599>do

1922
01:36:23.400 --> 01:36:26.100
<01:36:23.400>what <01:36:23.599>if <01:36:23.799>myself <01:36:24.000>on <01:36:24.200>the <01:36:24.400>colleagues <01:36:24.599>many <01:36:24.799>of

1923
01:36:26.100 --> 01:36:26.700
<01:36:26.100>us <01:36:26.639>are

1924
01:36:27.600 --> 01:36:30.700
<01:36:27.600>we <01:36:27.775>are <01:36:27.950>know <01:36:28.125>about <01:36:28.300>one <01:36:28.475>or <01:36:28.650>two <01:36:28.825>programming <01:36:29.000>languages.

1925
01:36:30.700 --> 01:36:33.600
<01:36:30.700>We're <01:36:31.050>using <01:36:31.400>yeah <01:36:31.750>here <01:36:32.099>and

1926
01:36:33.600 --> 01:36:37.000
<01:36:33.600>then <01:36:33.775>so <01:36:33.950>like <01:36:34.125>like <01:36:34.300>python <01:36:34.475>is <01:36:34.650>I <01:36:34.825>learn <01:36:35.000>part

1927
01:36:36.200 --> 01:36:39.300
<01:36:36.200>myself <01:36:36.480>about <01:36:36.760>I <01:36:37.040>think <01:36:37.320>two <01:36:37.599>years

1928
01:36:39.300 --> 01:36:42.700
<01:36:39.300>ago <01:36:39.500>or <01:36:39.700>three <01:36:39.900>years <01:36:40.100>ago <01:36:40.300>and <01:36:40.500>in <01:36:40.700>my

1929
01:36:42.700 --> 01:36:45.800
<01:36:42.700>daily <01:36:42.900>business <01:36:43.099>I'm <01:36:43.300>using <01:36:43.500>python <01:36:43.700>very <01:36:43.900>seldomly <01:36:44.099>because

1930
01:36:45.800 --> 01:36:47.900
<01:36:45.800>it's <01:36:46.000>not <01:36:46.200>my <01:36:46.400>task <01:36:46.600>to <01:36:46.800>do <01:36:47.000>python <01:36:47.200>programs.

1931
01:36:48.500 --> 01:36:51.100
<01:36:48.500>But <01:36:48.655>at <01:36:48.811>home, <01:36:48.966>if <01:36:49.122>I <01:36:49.277>do <01:36:49.433>some <01:36:49.588>home <01:36:49.744>automation <01:36:49.900>if

1932
01:36:51.100 --> 01:36:53.300
<01:36:51.100>I <01:36:51.300>do <01:36:51.500>something <01:36:51.700>like <01:36:51.900>that, <01:36:52.100>I'm <01:36:52.300>using <01:36:52.500>python.

1933
01:36:54.300 --> 01:36:58.300
<01:36:54.300>And <01:36:54.427>this <01:36:54.554>helps <01:36:54.681>me <01:36:54.809>in <01:36:54.936>my <01:36:55.063>daily <01:36:55.190>business <01:36:55.318>to <01:36:55.445>understand. <01:36:55.572>What <01:36:55.700>a

1934
01:36:57.300 --> 01:37:01.600
<01:36:57.300>typical <01:36:57.580>problems <01:36:57.860>when <01:36:58.140>you <01:36:58.420>programming <01:36:58.700>systems

1935
01:37:00.600 --> 01:37:03.800
<01:37:00.600>what <01:37:00.950>a <01:37:01.300>typical <01:37:01.650>problems <01:37:02.000>in

1936
01:37:03.800 --> 01:37:07.400
<01:37:03.800>the <01:37:03.975>cyber <01:37:04.150>security <01:37:04.325>when <01:37:04.500>you <01:37:04.675>have <01:37:04.850>a <01:37:05.025>module <01:37:05.200>of

1937
01:37:07.400 --> 01:37:11.100
<01:37:07.400>a <01:37:07.555>code <01:37:07.711>and <01:37:07.866>you <01:37:08.022>implemented <01:37:08.177>into <01:37:08.333>an <01:37:08.488>overall <01:37:08.644>code <01:37:08.799>thing.

1938
01:37:10.100 --> 01:37:14.100
<01:37:10.100>So <01:37:10.333>it <01:37:10.566>helps <01:37:10.800>you <01:37:11.033>understanding <01:37:11.266>things <01:37:11.500>which

1939
01:37:13.100 --> 01:37:16.400
<01:37:13.100>are <01:37:13.300>ongoing <01:37:13.500>even <01:37:13.700>if <01:37:13.900>you're <01:37:14.100>not <01:37:14.300>doing <01:37:14.500>it

1940
01:37:16.400 --> 01:37:18.300
<01:37:16.400>on <01:37:16.750>a <01:37:17.099>daily <01:37:17.450>business <01:37:17.799>and

1941
01:37:19.100 --> 01:37:22.400
<01:37:19.100>And <01:37:19.240>so <01:37:19.380>some <01:37:19.520>of <01:37:19.660>some <01:37:19.800>of <01:37:19.940>our <01:37:20.080>our <01:37:20.220>guys <01:37:20.360>they <01:37:20.500>are

1942
01:37:22.400 --> 01:37:25.300
<01:37:22.400>really <01:37:22.527>they <01:37:22.654>are <01:37:22.781>more <01:37:22.909>stepped <01:37:23.036>in <01:37:23.163>or <01:37:23.290>less <01:37:23.418>stepped <01:37:23.545>in. <01:37:23.672>It <01:37:23.799>depends

1943
01:37:25.300 --> 01:37:27.000
<01:37:25.300>a <01:37:25.533>little <01:37:25.766>bit <01:37:26.000>of <01:37:26.233>the <01:37:26.466>personality <01:37:26.700>but

1944
01:37:27.900 --> 01:37:30.300
<01:37:27.900>I <01:37:28.099>think <01:37:28.299>this <01:37:28.500>is <01:37:28.700>if <01:37:28.900>you're <01:37:29.099>in <01:37:29.299>this

1945
01:37:30.300 --> 01:37:33.000
<01:37:30.300>area <01:37:30.580>interested, <01:37:30.860>then <01:37:31.140>you <01:37:31.420>want <01:37:31.700>to

1946
01:37:33.500 --> 01:37:36.200
<01:37:33.500>step <01:37:33.593>in <01:37:33.686>the <01:37:33.780>one <01:37:33.873>or <01:37:33.966>in <01:37:34.060>the <01:37:34.153>other <01:37:34.246>area. <01:37:34.340>You <01:37:34.433>want <01:37:34.526>to <01:37:34.620>get <01:37:34.713>a <01:37:34.806>little <01:37:34.900>bit

1947
01:37:36.200 --> 01:37:39.300
<01:37:36.200>deeper <01:37:36.550>inside <01:37:36.900>and <01:37:37.250>even <01:37:37.599>if

1948
01:37:39.300 --> 01:37:39.700
<01:37:39.300>it's <01:37:39.660>not.

1949
01:37:40.800 --> 01:37:41.800
<01:37:40.800>necessarily <01:37:41.250>for <01:37:41.700>work

1950
01:37:43.100 --> 01:37:46.800
<01:37:43.100>Yeah, <01:37:43.275>so <01:37:43.450>you <01:37:43.625>don't <01:37:43.800>need <01:37:43.975>programming <01:37:44.150>languages <01:37:44.325>everywhere, <01:37:44.500>but

1951
01:37:46.800 --> 01:37:50.400
<01:37:46.800>kind <01:37:47.033>of <01:37:47.266>a <01:37:47.500>technical <01:37:47.733>Affinity <01:37:47.966>is <01:37:48.200>this

1952
01:37:49.400 --> 01:37:52.500
<01:37:49.400>good <01:37:49.599>if <01:37:49.799>you <01:37:50.000>want <01:37:50.200>to <01:37:50.400>to <01:37:50.599>start, <01:37:50.799>okay?

1953
01:37:53.200 --> 01:37:56.700
<01:37:53.200>So <01:37:53.375>yeah, <01:37:53.550>thank <01:37:53.724>you <01:37:53.900>both <01:37:54.075>for <01:37:54.250>this <01:37:54.425>answers <01:37:54.599>and

1954
01:37:56.700 --> 01:37:59.900
<01:37:56.700>very <01:37:57.050>good <01:37:57.400>question <01:37:57.750>maybe <01:37:58.099>also

1955
01:37:59.900 --> 01:38:02.500
<01:37:59.900>to <01:38:00.055>wrap <01:38:00.211>this <01:38:00.366>a <01:38:00.522>bit <01:38:00.677>up <01:38:00.833>this <01:38:00.988>whole <01:38:01.144>recruiting <01:38:01.299>process,

1956
01:38:02.500 --> 01:38:06.400
<01:38:02.500>can <01:38:02.700>you <01:38:02.900>provide <01:38:03.100>any <01:38:03.300>examples <01:38:03.500>of <01:38:03.700>successful <01:38:03.900>hires

1957
01:38:05.400 --> 01:38:08.400
<01:38:05.400>the <01:38:05.599>company <01:38:05.799>has <01:38:06.000>made <01:38:06.200>in <01:38:06.400>the <01:38:06.599>past <01:38:06.799>and

1958
01:38:08.400 --> 01:38:09.900
<01:38:08.400>what <01:38:08.849>made <01:38:09.299>them <01:38:09.750>successful

1959
01:38:10.800 --> 01:38:13.300
<01:38:10.800>Like <01:38:10.975>when <01:38:11.150>you <01:38:11.325>look <01:38:11.500>back <01:38:11.675>on <01:38:11.850>and <01:38:12.025>maybe <01:38:12.200>some

1960
01:38:13.300 --> 01:38:14.300
<01:38:13.300>newer <01:38:14.200>colleagues?

1961
01:38:22.400 --> 01:38:25.500
<01:38:22.400>And <01:38:22.599>I <01:38:22.799>I <01:38:23.000>mean, <01:38:23.200>I <01:38:23.400>I <01:38:23.599>can <01:38:23.799>answer

1962
01:38:25.500 --> 01:38:28.200
<01:38:25.500>the <01:38:25.675>question <01:38:25.850>in <01:38:26.025>the <01:38:26.200>way. <01:38:26.375>I <01:38:26.550>I <01:38:26.725>understood <01:38:26.900>it

1963
01:38:28.200 --> 01:38:31.300
<01:38:28.200>what <01:38:29.599>we

1964
01:38:31.300 --> 01:38:35.000
<01:38:31.300>are <01:38:31.455>looking <01:38:31.611>we <01:38:31.766>are <01:38:31.922>looking <01:38:32.077>always <01:38:32.233>on <01:38:32.388>two <01:38:32.544>two. <01:38:32.700>Yes,

1965
01:38:34.500 --> 01:38:37.200
<01:38:34.500>the <01:38:34.733>two <01:38:34.966>sides <01:38:35.200>of <01:38:35.433>a <01:38:35.666>candidate. <01:38:35.900>The

1966
01:38:37.200 --> 01:38:39.300
<01:38:37.200>one <01:38:37.400>is <01:38:37.599>of <01:38:37.800>course, <01:38:38.000>there <01:38:38.200>is <01:38:38.400>some <01:38:38.599>technical.

1967
01:38:41.400 --> 01:38:44.900
<01:38:41.400>Possibility <01:38:41.575>the <01:38:41.750>candidate <01:38:41.924>has <01:38:42.099>so <01:38:42.275>you <01:38:42.450>have <01:38:42.625>we <01:38:42.799>have

1968
01:38:44.900 --> 01:38:48.900
<01:38:44.900>a <01:38:45.055>job <01:38:45.211>description <01:38:45.366>and <01:38:45.522>you <01:38:45.677>need <01:38:45.833>to <01:38:45.988>have <01:38:46.144>certain <01:38:46.299>knowledge

1969
01:38:47.900 --> 01:38:50.800
<01:38:47.900>to <01:38:48.250>fulfill <01:38:48.599>the <01:38:48.950>job <01:38:49.299>and

1970
01:38:50.800 --> 01:38:54.000
<01:38:50.800>of <01:38:50.955>course <01:38:51.111>the <01:38:51.266>better <01:38:51.422>your <01:38:51.577>knowledge <01:38:51.733>fits <01:38:51.888>to <01:38:52.044>the <01:38:52.200>job

1971
01:38:53.400 --> 01:38:56.700
<01:38:53.400>the <01:38:53.633>better <01:38:53.866>it <01:38:54.099>is <01:38:54.333>but <01:38:54.566>we <01:38:54.799>often

1972
01:38:56.700 --> 01:39:00.800
<01:38:56.700>have <01:38:56.855>it <01:38:57.011>also <01:38:57.166>that <01:38:57.322>you <01:38:57.477>have <01:38:57.633>I'm <01:38:57.788>like <01:38:57.944>70% <01:38:58.099>fulfilling

1973
01:39:00.800 --> 01:39:03.500
<01:39:00.800>the <01:39:01.000>profile <01:39:01.200>but <01:39:01.400>there <01:39:01.600>are <01:39:01.800>still <01:39:02.000>20 <01:39:02.200>or

1974
01:39:03.500 --> 01:39:06.200
<01:39:03.500>30% <01:39:03.733>missing <01:39:03.966>and <01:39:04.200>of <01:39:04.433>course <01:39:04.666>we <01:39:04.900>can

1975
01:39:06.200 --> 01:39:09.700
<01:39:06.200>talk <01:39:06.375>about <01:39:06.550>how <01:39:06.724>can <01:39:06.900>we <01:39:07.075>develop <01:39:07.250>somebody <01:39:07.425>into <01:39:07.599>the

1976
01:39:09.700 --> 01:39:12.800
<01:39:09.700>remaining <01:39:10.050>20 <01:39:10.400>or <01:39:10.750>30% <01:39:11.099>with

1977
01:39:12.800 --> 01:39:15.200
<01:39:12.800>that <01:39:13.266>and <01:39:13.733>on <01:39:14.200>the

1978
01:39:15.200 --> 01:39:18.800
<01:39:15.200>other <01:39:15.375>hand? <01:39:15.550>There <01:39:15.724>is <01:39:15.900>the <01:39:16.075>person <01:39:16.250>like <01:39:16.425>like <01:39:16.599>Elizabeth

1979
01:39:18.800 --> 01:39:21.700
<01:39:18.800>told <01:39:18.975>about <01:39:19.150>this <01:39:19.325>is <01:39:19.500>a <01:39:19.675>team <01:39:19.850>player. <01:39:20.025>Come <01:39:20.200>is

1980
01:39:21.700 --> 01:39:23.900
<01:39:21.700>he <01:39:21.980>or <01:39:22.260>she <01:39:22.540>able <01:39:22.820>to <01:39:23.099>communicate?

1981
01:39:24.600 --> 01:39:27.300
<01:39:24.600>And <01:39:24.775>this <01:39:24.950>is <01:39:25.125>so <01:39:25.300>the <01:39:25.475>second <01:39:25.650>half. <01:39:25.825>What <01:39:26.000>is

1982
01:39:27.300 --> 01:39:28.300
<01:39:27.300>the <01:39:27.750>motivation <01:39:28.200>and

1983
01:39:29.500 --> 01:39:32.400
<01:39:29.500>So <01:39:29.655>let <01:39:29.811>me <01:39:29.966>say <01:39:30.122>it <01:39:30.277>like <01:39:30.433>this <01:39:30.588>if <01:39:30.744>the <01:39:30.900>person

1984
01:39:32.400 --> 01:39:32.700
is.

1985
01:39:33.700 --> 01:39:36.400
<01:39:33.700>Is <01:39:33.980>yeah <01:39:34.260>if <01:39:34.540>the <01:39:34.820>person <01:39:35.099>is

1986
01:39:36.400 --> 01:39:36.800
really?

1987
01:39:39.500 --> 01:39:44.800
<01:39:39.500>About <01:39:39.675>soying <01:39:39.850>if <01:39:40.025>the <01:39:40.200>person <01:39:40.375>is <01:39:40.550>really <01:39:40.725>convincing <01:39:40.900>us

1988
01:39:44.800 --> 01:39:47.200
<01:39:44.800>that <01:39:45.000>then <01:39:45.200>this <01:39:45.400>is <01:39:45.600>the <01:39:45.800>the <01:39:46.000>second <01:39:46.200>part

1989
01:39:47.200 --> 01:39:50.000
<01:39:47.200>and <01:39:47.375>and <01:39:47.550>each <01:39:47.724>person <01:39:47.900>is <01:39:48.075>different. <01:39:48.250>So <01:39:48.425>there <01:39:48.599>is

1990
01:39:50.200 --> 01:39:53.600
<01:39:50.200>no <01:39:50.307>no <01:39:50.415>profile <01:39:50.523>that <01:39:50.630>you <01:39:50.738>say <01:39:50.846>you <01:39:50.953>have <01:39:51.061>to <01:39:51.169>be <01:39:51.276>this <01:39:51.384>this <01:39:51.492>and <01:39:51.599>this

1991
01:39:53.600 --> 01:39:56.200
<01:39:53.600>and <01:39:53.755>then <01:39:53.911>a <01:39:54.066>person <01:39:54.222>is <01:39:54.377>convincing <01:39:54.533>us. <01:39:54.688>Each <01:39:54.844>person <01:39:55.000>is

1992
01:39:56.200 --> 01:39:59.300
<01:39:56.200>different <01:39:56.400>and <01:39:56.599>each <01:39:56.800>person <01:39:57.000>has <01:39:57.200>a <01:39:57.400>strangers <01:39:57.599>and

1993
01:39:59.300 --> 01:40:02.600
<01:39:59.300>weaknesses <01:39:59.475>and <01:39:59.650>if <01:39:59.825>you're <01:40:00.000>aware <01:40:00.175>of <01:40:00.350>your <01:40:00.525>own <01:40:00.700>strengths

1994
01:40:02.600 --> 01:40:05.000
<01:40:02.600>and <01:40:02.800>weaknesses, <01:40:03.000>then <01:40:03.200>this <01:40:03.400>is <01:40:03.600>convincing <01:40:03.800>for <01:40:04.000>us.

1995
01:40:06.400 --> 01:40:06.900
could

1996
01:40:07.500 --> 01:40:10.900
<01:40:07.500>very <01:40:07.733>wise <01:40:07.966>words <01:40:08.200>right <01:40:08.433>there, <01:40:08.666>maybe <01:40:08.900>kind

1997
01:40:10.900 --> 01:40:13.300
<01:40:10.900>of <01:40:11.075>connected <01:40:11.250>also <01:40:11.424>to <01:40:11.599>that <01:40:11.775>with <01:40:11.950>more <01:40:12.125>of <01:40:12.299>a

1998
01:40:13.300 --> 01:40:17.200
<01:40:13.300>general <01:40:13.427>question, <01:40:13.554>but <01:40:13.681>I <01:40:13.809>also <01:40:13.936>like <01:40:14.063>it <01:40:14.190>very <01:40:14.318>much <01:40:14.445>from <01:40:14.572>Mario. <01:40:14.700>Can

1999
01:40:16.200 --> 01:40:19.300
<01:40:16.200>you <01:40:16.433>share <01:40:16.666>any <01:40:16.900>tips <01:40:17.133>or <01:40:17.366>advice <01:40:17.599>for

2000
01:40:19.300 --> 01:40:22.200
<01:40:19.300>job <01:40:19.500>Seekers <01:40:19.700>looking <01:40:19.900>to <01:40:20.100>break <01:40:20.300>into <01:40:20.500>attack <01:40:20.700>industry?

2001
01:40:28.200 --> 01:40:31.300
<01:40:28.200>So <01:40:28.666>maybe <01:40:29.133>where <01:40:29.599>to

2002
01:40:31.300 --> 01:40:34.800
<01:40:31.300>look <01:40:31.427>and <01:40:31.554>maybe <01:40:31.681>how <01:40:31.809>to <01:40:31.936>how <01:40:32.063>to <01:40:32.190>fill <01:40:32.318>out <01:40:32.445>your <01:40:32.572>profile <01:40:32.700>maybe

2003
01:40:34.800 --> 01:40:38.100
<01:40:34.800>things <01:40:35.033>like <01:40:35.266>that. <01:40:35.500>What's <01:40:35.733>what <01:40:35.966>it <01:40:36.200>recruiters

2004
01:40:37.100 --> 01:40:40.500
<01:40:37.100>are <01:40:37.333>looking <01:40:37.566>for <01:40:37.800>most <01:40:38.033>of <01:40:38.266>the <01:40:38.500>time.

2005
01:40:49.100 --> 01:40:52.900
<01:40:49.100>Mm <01:40:49.300>for <01:40:49.500>for <01:40:49.700>an <01:40:49.900>interesting <01:40:50.100>CV <01:40:50.300>and <01:40:50.500>so

2006
01:40:52.900 --> 01:40:55.200
<01:40:52.900>we <01:40:53.075>are <01:40:53.250>looking <01:40:53.424>for <01:40:53.599>the <01:40:53.775>things <01:40:53.950>you <01:40:54.125>had <01:40:54.299>done.

2007
01:40:55.200 --> 01:40:58.000
<01:40:55.200>We <01:40:55.355>are <01:40:55.511>looking <01:40:55.666>for <01:40:55.822>the <01:40:55.977>thing <01:40:56.133>of <01:40:56.288>your <01:40:56.444>interested <01:40:56.599>in.

2008
01:41:01.400 --> 01:41:04.100
<01:41:01.400>Yes, <01:41:01.555>maybe <01:41:01.711>I <01:41:01.866>don't <01:41:02.022>know <01:41:02.177>maybe <01:41:02.333>I <01:41:02.488>can <01:41:02.644>can <01:41:02.799>tell

2009
01:41:04.100 --> 01:41:07.100
<01:41:04.100>you <01:41:04.450>how <01:41:04.800>recruiting <01:41:05.150>Works. <01:41:05.500>Um,

2010
01:41:07.100 --> 01:41:10.600
<01:41:07.100>but <01:41:07.300>I'm <01:41:07.500>not <01:41:07.700>sure <01:41:07.900>if <01:41:08.100>I <01:41:08.300>can <01:41:08.500>tell

2011
01:41:10.600 --> 01:41:12.400
<01:41:10.600>you <01:41:10.833>how <01:41:11.066>to <01:41:11.300>fill <01:41:11.533>out <01:41:11.766>the <01:41:12.000>forms.

2012
01:41:13.500 --> 01:41:16.500
<01:41:13.500>Um <01:41:13.733>and <01:41:13.966>our <01:41:14.200>process, <01:41:14.433>of <01:41:14.666>course, <01:41:14.900>there's

2013
01:41:16.500 --> 01:41:20.200
<01:41:16.500>an <01:41:16.850>application <01:41:17.200>then <01:41:17.550>we <01:41:17.900>check

2014
01:41:19.200 --> 01:41:23.100
<01:41:19.200>the <01:41:19.666>application <01:41:20.133>recruiting <01:41:20.599>checks

2015
01:41:22.100 --> 01:41:25.200
<01:41:22.100>and <01:41:22.380>the <01:41:22.660>hiving <01:41:22.940>manager. <01:41:23.220>And <01:41:23.500>so

2016
01:41:25.200 --> 01:41:28.700
<01:41:25.200>and <01:41:25.375>if <01:41:25.550>it's <01:41:25.724>it's <01:41:25.900>it <01:41:26.075>looks <01:41:26.250>good. <01:41:26.425>Then <01:41:26.599>there

2017
01:41:28.700 --> 01:41:32.300
<01:41:28.700>will <01:41:28.933>be <01:41:29.166>on <01:41:29.400>the <01:41:29.633>first <01:41:29.866>get <01:41:30.099>to

2018
01:41:32.300 --> 01:41:35.500
<01:41:32.300>know <01:41:32.580>a <01:41:32.860>date. <01:41:33.140>We <01:41:33.420>call <01:41:33.700>it

2019
01:41:35.500 --> 01:41:38.900
<01:41:35.500>a <01:41:35.675>Canon <01:41:35.850>Lange <01:41:36.025>Express. <01:41:36.200>It's <01:41:36.375>the <01:41:36.550>first <01:41:36.725>interview <01:41:36.900>between

2020
01:41:38.900 --> 01:41:42.100
<01:41:38.900>the <01:41:39.133>hiring <01:41:39.366>manager <01:41:39.599>and <01:41:39.833>the <01:41:40.066>applicant. <01:41:40.299>It's

2021
01:41:41.100 --> 01:41:44.200
<01:41:41.100>just <01:41:41.450>to <01:41:41.800>know <01:41:42.150>each <01:41:42.500>other

2022
01:41:44.200 --> 01:41:47.500
<01:41:44.200>and <01:41:44.666>yes, <01:41:45.133>there <01:41:45.599>are

2023
01:41:47.500 --> 01:41:50.900
<01:41:47.500>some <01:41:47.675>technical <01:41:47.850>questions, <01:41:48.025>you <01:41:48.200>know <01:41:48.375>the <01:41:48.550>background <01:41:48.725>the <01:41:48.900>experience

2024
01:41:50.900 --> 01:41:54.000
<01:41:50.900>and <01:41:51.250>but <01:41:51.599>maybe <01:41:51.950>we <01:41:52.299>are

2025
01:41:53.100 --> 01:41:56.100
<01:41:53.100>meeting <01:41:53.275>in <01:41:53.450>a <01:41:53.625>cafe. <01:41:53.800>We <01:41:53.975>have <01:41:54.150>a <01:41:54.325>coffee <01:41:54.500>in

2026
01:41:56.100 --> 01:42:01.600
<01:41:56.100>our <01:41:56.450>locations <01:41:56.800>here <01:41:57.150>and <01:41:57.500>when

2027
01:41:59.600 --> 01:42:02.600
<01:41:59.600>both <01:42:01.000>sides

2028
01:42:02.600 --> 01:42:05.300
<01:42:02.600>agree, <01:42:02.775>okay, <01:42:02.950>that <01:42:03.125>was <01:42:03.300>very <01:42:03.475>interesting <01:42:03.650>and <01:42:03.825>I <01:42:04.000>would

2029
01:42:05.300 --> 01:42:08.500
<01:42:05.300>like <01:42:05.455>to <01:42:05.611>go <01:42:05.766>further <01:42:05.922>in <01:42:06.077>this <01:42:06.233>process. <01:42:06.388>Then <01:42:06.544>there <01:42:06.700>will

2030
01:42:08.500 --> 01:42:12.400
<01:42:08.500>be <01:42:08.850>on <01:42:09.200>another <01:42:09.550>interview. <01:42:09.900>It's

2031
01:42:11.400 --> 01:42:13.000
<01:42:11.400>called <01:42:12.799>a

2032
01:42:13.100 --> 01:42:16.500
<01:42:13.100>for <01:42:13.380>farm <01:42:13.660>and <01:42:13.940>there's <01:42:14.220>the <01:42:14.500>hiring

2033
01:42:16.500 --> 01:42:19.900
<01:42:16.500>manager <01:42:16.655>of <01:42:16.811>the <01:42:16.966>applicant <01:42:17.122>and <01:42:17.277>there <01:42:17.433>will <01:42:17.588>be <01:42:17.744>one <01:42:17.900>person

2034
01:42:19.900 --> 01:42:22.900
<01:42:19.900>of <01:42:20.179>the <01:42:20.460>Recruitment <01:42:20.740>and <01:42:21.019>it <01:42:21.299>will

2035
01:42:22.900 --> 01:42:25.700
<01:42:22.900>be <01:42:23.099>a <01:42:23.299>longer <01:42:23.500>day. <01:42:23.700>Maybe <01:42:23.900>one <01:42:24.099>half <01:42:24.299>hour

2036
01:42:25.700 --> 01:42:28.400
<01:42:25.700>maybe <01:42:25.875>two <01:42:26.050>hours. <01:42:26.224>It <01:42:26.400>depends <01:42:26.575>on <01:42:26.750>the <01:42:26.925>questions <01:42:27.099>of

2037
01:42:28.400 --> 01:42:31.600
<01:42:28.400>the <01:42:28.555>applicant <01:42:28.711>and <01:42:28.866>after <01:42:29.022>this <01:42:29.177>we <01:42:29.333>make <01:42:29.488>a <01:42:29.644>decision <01:42:29.799>so

2038
01:42:31.600 --> 01:42:34.300
<01:42:31.600>it's <01:42:31.800>very <01:42:32.000>short <01:42:32.200>process. <01:42:32.400>And <01:42:32.600>so <01:42:32.800>I <01:42:33.000>think

2039
01:42:34.300 --> 01:42:38.300
<01:42:34.300>maybe <01:42:34.650>I'd <01:42:35.000>last <01:42:35.350>two <01:42:35.700>maximum

2040
01:42:37.300 --> 01:42:40.900
<01:42:37.300>three <01:42:37.650>weeks <01:42:38.000>after <01:42:38.350>we <01:42:38.700>get

2041
01:42:40.900 --> 01:42:41.300
<01:42:40.900>the <01:42:41.260>application.

2042
01:42:43.200 --> 01:42:46.300
<01:42:43.200>and <01:42:43.400>maybe <01:42:43.599>to <01:42:43.800>to <01:42:44.000>add <01:42:44.200>one <01:42:44.400>aspect <01:42:44.599>what

2043
01:42:46.300 --> 01:42:49.800
<01:42:46.300>what <01:42:46.455>I <01:42:46.611>heard <01:42:46.766>inside <01:42:46.922>of <01:42:47.077>the <01:42:47.233>question <01:42:47.388>is <01:42:47.544>I <01:42:47.700>heard

2044
01:42:49.800 --> 01:42:53.100
<01:42:49.800>something <01:42:50.033>like <01:42:50.266>the <01:42:50.500>technical <01:42:50.733>industry <01:42:50.966>and <01:42:51.200>my

2045
01:42:52.100 --> 01:42:54.300
<01:42:52.100>recommendation <01:42:52.800>would <01:42:53.500>be

2046
01:42:55.300 --> 01:42:58.800
<01:42:55.300>take <01:42:55.475>a <01:42:55.650>very <01:42:55.825>close <01:42:56.000>look <01:42:56.175>to <01:42:56.350>the <01:42:56.525>company <01:42:56.700>you

2047
01:42:58.800 --> 01:43:00.200
<01:42:58.800>want <01:42:59.220>to <01:42:59.640>work <01:43:00.059>for?

2048
01:43:01.100 --> 01:43:04.300
<01:43:01.100>What <01:43:01.450>I <01:43:01.800>understand, <01:43:02.150>I <01:43:02.500>worked

2049
01:43:04.300 --> 01:43:07.600
<01:43:04.300>for <01:43:04.427>three <01:43:04.554>companies <01:43:04.681>and <01:43:04.809>I <01:43:04.936>had <01:43:05.063>were <01:43:05.190>in <01:43:05.318>contact <01:43:05.445>with <01:43:05.572>the <01:43:05.700>numerous

2050
01:43:07.600 --> 01:43:08.800
<01:43:07.600>companies <01:43:07.960>during <01:43:08.320>this <01:43:08.680>time.

2051
01:43:09.800 --> 01:43:12.200
<01:43:09.800>And <01:43:10.000>what <01:43:10.200>I <01:43:10.400>see <01:43:10.600>is <01:43:10.800>that <01:43:11.000>there <01:43:11.200>are

2052
01:43:12.200 --> 01:43:16.000
<01:43:12.200>big <01:43:12.400>differences <01:43:12.599>between <01:43:12.800>German <01:43:13.000>driven <01:43:13.200>companies <01:43:13.400>American <01:43:13.599>or

2053
01:43:15.800 --> 01:43:19.300
<01:43:15.800>japanese-owned <01:43:16.266>companies. <01:43:16.733>So <01:43:17.200>the

2054
01:43:18.300 --> 01:43:21.400
<01:43:18.300>way <01:43:18.580>the <01:43:18.860>people <01:43:19.140>are <01:43:19.420>working <01:43:19.700>together

2055
01:43:21.400 --> 01:43:24.700
<01:43:21.400>the <01:43:21.599>way <01:43:21.799>what <01:43:22.000>is <01:43:22.200>driving <01:43:22.400>people <01:43:22.599>the <01:43:22.799>expectations

2056
01:43:24.700 --> 01:43:27.200
<01:43:24.700>about <01:43:24.933>a <01:43:25.166>team <01:43:25.400>they <01:43:25.633>are <01:43:25.866>really <01:43:26.099>different

2057
01:43:27.200 --> 01:43:31.300
<01:43:27.200>and <01:43:27.433>so <01:43:27.666>for <01:43:27.900>me <01:43:28.133>it's <01:43:28.366>if <01:43:28.599>to

2058
01:43:30.300 --> 01:43:33.700
<01:43:30.300>have <01:43:30.533>a <01:43:30.766>successful <01:43:31.000>fit <01:43:31.233>of <01:43:31.466>an <01:43:31.700>applicant

2059
01:43:33.700 --> 01:43:36.200
<01:43:33.700>or <01:43:33.980>of <01:43:34.260>an <01:43:34.540>employee <01:43:34.820>with <01:43:35.099>a

2060
01:43:36.200 --> 01:43:39.700
<01:43:36.200>company, <01:43:36.433>it's <01:43:36.666>it's <01:43:36.900>absolutely <01:43:37.133>important <01:43:37.366>to <01:43:37.599>to

2061
01:43:39.700 --> 01:43:42.200
<01:43:39.700>really <01:43:39.980>have <01:43:40.260>the <01:43:40.540>to <01:43:40.820>have <01:43:41.099>a

2062
01:43:42.200 --> 01:43:45.800
<01:43:42.200>look. <01:43:42.340>What <01:43:42.480>is <01:43:42.620>the <01:43:42.760>company? <01:43:42.900>Does <01:43:43.040>this <01:43:43.179>company <01:43:43.320>really <01:43:43.460>fits <01:43:43.599>to

2063
01:43:45.800 --> 01:43:46.400
<01:43:45.800>me <01:43:45.980>as <01:43:46.160>a <01:43:46.340>person?

2064
01:43:47.500 --> 01:43:50.200
<01:43:47.500>And <01:43:47.675>so <01:43:47.850>this <01:43:48.025>is <01:43:48.200>something <01:43:48.375>which <01:43:48.550>is <01:43:48.725>if <01:43:48.900>if

2065
01:43:50.200 --> 01:43:53.300
<01:43:50.200>you're <01:43:50.340>not <01:43:50.480>have <01:43:50.620>a <01:43:50.760>good <01:43:50.900>look <01:43:51.040>there <01:43:51.179>then <01:43:51.320>it's <01:43:51.460>really <01:43:51.599>like

2066
01:43:53.300 --> 01:43:56.200
<01:43:53.300>like <01:43:53.475>playing <01:43:53.650>roulette <01:43:53.825>and <01:43:54.000>you <01:43:54.175>see <01:43:54.350>oh, <01:43:54.525>it's <01:43:54.700>right

2067
01:43:56.200 --> 01:43:56.600
<01:43:56.200>or <01:43:56.560>black.

2068
01:43:58.300 --> 01:44:01.800
<01:43:58.300>So <01:43:58.533>identification <01:43:58.766>is <01:43:59.000>also <01:43:59.233>a <01:43:59.466>big <01:43:59.700>key,

2069
01:44:01.800 --> 01:44:04.500
<01:44:01.800>obviously <01:44:02.000>if <01:44:02.200>it's <01:44:02.400>like <01:44:02.600>it <01:44:02.800>fits <01:44:03.000>also <01:44:03.200>your

2070
01:44:04.500 --> 01:44:07.800
<01:44:04.500>bit <01:44:04.675>of <01:44:04.850>your <01:44:05.025>personality, <01:44:05.200>maybe <01:44:05.375>just <01:44:05.550>say <01:44:05.725>and <01:44:05.900>since

2071
01:44:07.800 --> 01:44:10.800
<01:44:07.800>you <01:44:08.000>also <01:44:08.200>talked <01:44:08.400>about <01:44:08.600>maybe <01:44:08.800>a <01:44:09.000>bit <01:44:09.200>more

2072
01:44:10.800 --> 01:44:13.200
<01:44:10.800>about <01:44:11.150>the <01:44:11.500>Technologies <01:44:11.850>involved <01:44:12.200>in

2073
01:44:13.200 --> 01:44:16.600
<01:44:13.200>the <01:44:13.327>hiring <01:44:13.454>process. <01:44:13.581>Could <01:44:13.709>we <01:44:13.836>got <01:44:13.963>a <01:44:14.090>quick <01:44:14.218>cool <01:44:14.345>question <01:44:14.472>from <01:44:14.599>down

2074
01:44:16.600 --> 01:44:19.500
<01:44:16.600>here <01:44:16.740>to <01:44:16.880>you? <01:44:17.020>How <01:44:17.160>do <01:44:17.300>you <01:44:17.440>keep <01:44:17.580>up <01:44:17.720>with <01:44:17.860>the <01:44:18.000>latest

2075
01:44:19.500 --> 01:44:22.100
<01:44:19.500>trends <01:44:19.733>and <01:44:19.966>developments <01:44:20.200>in <01:44:20.433>the <01:44:20.666>tech <01:44:20.900>industry?

2076
01:44:23.300 --> 01:44:25.600
<01:44:23.300>Maybe <01:44:23.455>you <01:44:23.611>have <01:44:23.766>some <01:44:23.922>tips <01:44:24.077>to <01:44:24.233>share <01:44:24.388>with <01:44:24.544>the <01:44:24.700>audience.

2077
01:44:27.400 --> 01:44:29.300
<01:44:27.400>yes, <01:44:27.750>I <01:44:28.099>think <01:44:28.450>it's <01:44:28.799>it's

2078
01:44:30.900 --> 01:44:34.600
<01:44:30.900>it's <01:44:31.133>a <01:44:31.366>it's <01:44:31.599>a <01:44:31.833>more. <01:44:32.066>It's <01:44:32.299>it's

2079
01:44:34.600 --> 01:44:35.900
<01:44:34.600>a <01:44:35.185>multi-path <01:44:35.769>approach.

2080
01:44:36.600 --> 01:44:39.200
<01:44:36.600>And <01:44:36.755>the <01:44:36.911>one <01:44:37.066>thing <01:44:37.222>of <01:44:37.377>course <01:44:37.533>I <01:44:37.688>take <01:44:37.844>some <01:44:38.000>of

2081
01:44:39.200 --> 01:44:42.800
<01:44:39.200>my <01:44:39.433>my <01:44:39.666>business <01:44:39.900>time <01:44:40.133>to <01:44:40.366>go <01:44:40.599>through

2082
01:44:42.800 --> 01:44:45.600
<01:44:42.800>the <01:44:42.975>latest <01:44:43.150>news <01:44:43.325>to <01:44:43.500>go <01:44:43.675>to <01:44:43.850>the <01:44:44.025>informations. <01:44:44.200>I

2083
01:44:45.600 --> 01:44:47.300
<01:44:45.600>get <01:44:45.880>my <01:44:46.160>magazines <01:44:46.440>and <01:44:46.720>so <01:44:47.000>on.

2084
01:44:48.400 --> 01:44:52.200
<01:44:48.400>The <01:44:48.599>other <01:44:48.799>thing <01:44:49.000>if <01:44:49.200>you're <01:44:49.400>working <01:44:49.599>like <01:44:49.799>in

2085
01:44:51.200 --> 01:44:54.500
<01:44:51.200>in <01:44:51.900>Brussels <01:44:52.599>or

2086
01:44:54.500 --> 01:44:58.700
<01:44:54.500>in <01:44:54.655>Berlin, <01:44:54.811>or <01:44:54.966>if <01:44:55.122>you <01:44:55.277>contact <01:44:55.433>with <01:44:55.588>other <01:44:55.744>energy <01:44:55.900>companies,

2087
01:44:58.700 --> 01:45:01.400
<01:44:58.700>so <01:44:58.855>if <01:44:59.011>you <01:44:59.166>get <01:44:59.322>in <01:44:59.477>touch <01:44:59.633>with <01:44:59.788>the <01:44:59.944>branch, <01:45:00.099>then

2088
01:45:01.400 --> 01:45:04.400
<01:45:01.400>you <01:45:01.633>really <01:45:01.866>get <01:45:02.099>information <01:45:02.333>out <01:45:02.566>there. <01:45:02.799>What

2089
01:45:04.400 --> 01:45:07.600
<01:45:04.400>are <01:45:04.575>their <01:45:04.750>problems? <01:45:04.924>What <01:45:05.099>is <01:45:05.275>our <01:45:05.450>problem <01:45:05.625>and <01:45:05.799>you're

2090
01:45:07.600 --> 01:45:10.400
<01:45:07.600>changing <01:45:07.880>on <01:45:08.160>on <01:45:08.440>the <01:45:08.720>latest <01:45:09.000>status?

2091
01:45:11.300 --> 01:45:14.300
<01:45:11.300>and <01:45:11.427>the <01:45:11.554>third <01:45:11.681>approach <01:45:11.809>I <01:45:11.936>have <01:45:12.063>is <01:45:12.190>what <01:45:12.318>I <01:45:12.445>I <01:45:12.572>said <01:45:12.700>in

2092
01:45:14.300 --> 01:45:17.600
<01:45:14.300>beforehand, <01:45:14.766>especially <01:45:15.233>cyber <01:45:15.700>security

2093
01:45:17.600 --> 01:45:19.600
<01:45:17.600>or <01:45:17.833>it <01:45:18.066>I <01:45:18.300>use <01:45:18.533>some <01:45:18.766>of <01:45:19.000>my

2094
01:45:20.900 --> 01:45:23.400
<01:45:20.900>Own <01:45:21.055>time, <01:45:21.211>so <01:45:21.366>it's <01:45:21.522>not <01:45:21.677>not <01:45:21.833>a <01:45:21.988>business <01:45:22.144>time. <01:45:22.299>It's

2095
01:45:24.200 --> 01:45:27.400
<01:45:24.200>My <01:45:24.375>free <01:45:24.550>time <01:45:24.724>I <01:45:24.900>used <01:45:25.075>to <01:45:25.250>drive <01:45:25.425>some <01:45:25.599>projects

2096
01:45:27.400 --> 01:45:30.600
<01:45:27.400>on <01:45:27.555>my <01:45:27.711>own. <01:45:27.866>So <01:45:28.022>I <01:45:28.177>have <01:45:28.333>no <01:45:28.488>home <01:45:28.644>automation <01:45:28.799>or

2097
01:45:30.600 --> 01:45:33.300
<01:45:30.600>I <01:45:30.950>I <01:45:31.300>run <01:45:31.650>for <01:45:32.000>some

2098
01:45:33.300 --> 01:45:37.200
<01:45:33.300>time <01:45:33.455>and <01:45:33.611>next <01:45:33.766>Cloud <01:45:33.922>on <01:45:34.077>a <01:45:34.233>Raspberry <01:45:34.388>Pi <01:45:34.544>and <01:45:34.700>now

2099
01:45:36.200 --> 01:45:39.600
<01:45:36.200>I <01:45:36.400>moved <01:45:36.599>it <01:45:36.800>on <01:45:37.000>on <01:45:37.200>a <01:45:37.400>professional <01:45:37.599>server.

2100
01:45:39.600 --> 01:45:42.600
<01:45:39.600>But <01:45:39.833>so <01:45:40.066>I <01:45:40.300>always <01:45:40.533>run <01:45:40.766>some <01:45:41.000>projects

2101
01:45:42.600 --> 01:45:43.000
to

2102
01:45:43.900 --> 01:45:46.500
<01:45:43.900>to <01:45:44.179>have <01:45:44.460>like <01:45:44.740>like <01:45:45.019>Python <01:45:45.299>and

2103
01:45:46.500 --> 01:45:49.600
<01:45:46.500>things <01:45:46.640>like <01:45:46.780>that <01:45:46.920>to <01:45:47.060>learn <01:45:47.200>this <01:45:47.340>by <01:45:47.480>my <01:45:47.620>own <01:45:47.760>and <01:45:47.900>to

2104
01:45:49.600 --> 01:45:52.500
<01:45:49.600>see <01:45:49.880>how <01:45:50.160>difficult <01:45:50.440>is <01:45:50.720>it. <01:45:51.000>What

2105
01:45:52.500 --> 01:45:55.300
<01:45:52.500>a <01:45:52.700>typical <01:45:52.900>problems <01:45:53.100>how <01:45:53.300>long <01:45:53.500>does <01:45:53.700>it <01:45:53.900>take

2106
01:45:55.300 --> 01:45:59.200
<01:45:55.300>for <01:45:55.440>me <01:45:55.580>and <01:45:55.720>and <01:45:55.860>to <01:45:56.000>get <01:45:56.140>a <01:45:56.280>feeling <01:45:56.420>of <01:45:56.560>that <01:45:56.700>and

2107
01:45:58.200 --> 01:46:01.000
<01:45:58.200>and <01:45:58.666>so <01:45:59.133>there <01:45:59.599>is

2108
01:46:01.500 --> 01:46:04.400
<01:46:01.500>there <01:46:01.675>are <01:46:01.850>some <01:46:02.025>approaches <01:46:02.200>to <01:46:02.375>to <01:46:02.550>really <01:46:02.725>keep <01:46:02.900>up

2109
01:46:04.400 --> 01:46:04.900
<01:46:04.400>on <01:46:04.849>that.

2110
01:46:06.300 --> 01:46:09.700
<01:46:06.300>So <01:46:06.475>maybe <01:46:06.650>to <01:46:06.825>sum <01:46:07.000>up <01:46:07.175>keep <01:46:07.350>yourself <01:46:07.525>occupied <01:46:07.700>with

2111
01:46:09.700 --> 01:46:12.600
<01:46:09.700>personal <01:46:09.980>projects <01:46:10.260>and <01:46:10.540>then <01:46:10.820>it's <01:46:11.099>it's

2112
01:46:12.600 --> 01:46:15.800
<01:46:12.600>all <01:46:12.833>in <01:46:13.066>natural <01:46:13.300>way <01:46:13.533>to <01:46:13.766>learn <01:46:14.000>the

2113
01:46:15.800 --> 01:46:18.300
<01:46:15.800>newest <01:46:15.975>ones <01:46:16.150>and <01:46:16.325>maybe <01:46:16.500>also <01:46:16.675>kind <01:46:16.850>of <01:46:17.025>connected <01:46:17.200>to

2114
01:46:18.300 --> 01:46:21.600
<01:46:18.300>that <01:46:18.455>question. <01:46:18.611>We <01:46:18.766>got <01:46:18.922>another <01:46:19.077>one <01:46:19.233>from <01:46:19.388>Anna <01:46:19.544>who <01:46:19.700>wants

2115
01:46:21.600 --> 01:46:24.500
<01:46:21.600>to <01:46:21.755>know <01:46:21.911>what <01:46:22.066>are <01:46:22.222>some <01:46:22.377>of <01:46:22.533>the <01:46:22.688>emerging <01:46:22.844>technologies <01:46:23.000>that

2116
01:46:24.500 --> 01:46:28.000
<01:46:24.500>can <01:46:24.733>improve <01:46:24.966>cybersecurity <01:46:25.200>in <01:46:25.433>critical <01:46:25.666>infrastructure. <01:46:25.900>Is

2117
01:46:27.400 --> 01:46:30.300
<01:46:27.400>there <01:46:27.599>like <01:46:27.799>a <01:46:28.000>current <01:46:28.200>Trend <01:46:28.400>to <01:46:28.599>something <01:46:28.799>or

2118
01:46:30.300 --> 01:46:33.000
<01:46:30.300>is <01:46:30.533>there <01:46:30.766>like <01:46:31.000>a <01:46:31.233>new <01:46:31.466>new <01:46:31.700>way?

2119
01:46:35.100 --> 01:46:38.600
<01:46:35.100>Yes, <01:46:35.255>I <01:46:35.411>think <01:46:35.566>there <01:46:35.722>are <01:46:35.877>two <01:46:36.033>two <01:46:36.188>technologies. <01:46:36.344>The <01:46:36.500>one

2120
01:46:38.600 --> 01:46:41.500
<01:46:38.600>is <01:46:38.833>also <01:46:39.066>I <01:46:39.300>mean <01:46:39.533>that <01:46:39.766>the <01:46:40.000>office

2121
01:46:41.500 --> 01:46:45.400
<01:46:41.500>it <01:46:41.640>I <01:46:41.780>call <01:46:41.920>it <01:46:42.060>sometimes <01:46:42.200>so <01:46:42.340>the <01:46:42.480>traditional <01:46:42.620>it <01:46:42.760>has <01:46:42.900>it's

2122
01:46:44.400 --> 01:46:48.400
<01:46:44.400>a <01:46:44.750>Serial <01:46:45.099>trust <01:46:45.450>system <01:46:45.799>and

2123
01:46:47.400 --> 01:46:50.400
<01:46:47.400>this <01:46:47.679>is <01:46:47.960>upcoming <01:46:48.240>now. <01:46:48.519>Some <01:46:48.799>of

2124
01:46:50.400 --> 01:46:53.500
<01:46:50.400>the <01:46:50.599>companies <01:46:50.799>are <01:46:51.000>already <01:46:51.200>using <01:46:51.400>it. <01:46:51.599>So <01:46:51.799>you're

2125
01:46:53.500 --> 01:46:56.800
<01:46:53.500>you're <01:46:53.733>moving <01:46:53.966>away <01:46:54.200>from <01:46:54.433>a <01:46:54.666>fireball <01:46:54.900>structure

2126
01:46:56.800 --> 01:47:00.000
<01:46:56.800>to <01:46:57.080>a <01:46:57.360>structure <01:46:57.640>that <01:46:57.920>every <01:46:58.200>participant

2127
01:46:59.300 --> 01:47:02.800
<01:46:59.300>in <01:46:59.650>a <01:47:00.000>network <01:47:00.350>must <01:47:00.700>identify

2128
01:47:02.800 --> 01:47:05.600
<01:47:02.800>himself <01:47:03.500>when <01:47:04.200>doing

2129
01:47:05.600 --> 01:47:08.500
<01:47:05.600>any <01:47:05.800>request <01:47:06.000>to <01:47:06.200>another <01:47:06.400>participant <01:47:06.600>so <01:47:06.800>you <01:47:07.000>really

2130
01:47:08.500 --> 01:47:11.800
<01:47:08.500>need <01:47:08.675>to <01:47:08.850>for <01:47:09.025>each <01:47:09.200>piece <01:47:09.375>of <01:47:09.550>information <01:47:09.725>you <01:47:09.900>share.

2131
01:47:11.800 --> 01:47:14.800
<01:47:11.800>Okay. <01:47:12.080>I <01:47:12.360>know <01:47:12.640>100% <01:47:12.920>precisely <01:47:13.200>with

2132
01:47:14.800 --> 01:47:17.700
<01:47:14.800>a <01:47:15.000>certificate <01:47:15.200>or <01:47:15.400>things <01:47:15.600>like <01:47:15.800>that. <01:47:16.000>This <01:47:16.200>information

2133
01:47:17.700 --> 01:47:21.000
<01:47:17.700>is <01:47:17.875>coming <01:47:18.050>from <01:47:18.224>that <01:47:18.400>or <01:47:18.575>this <01:47:18.750>information <01:47:18.925>is <01:47:19.099>transferred

2134
01:47:20.100 --> 01:47:22.000
<01:47:20.100>to <01:47:20.800>the <01:47:21.500>participant.

2135
01:47:22.800 --> 01:47:23.900
<01:47:22.800>and <01:47:23.790>in

2136
01:47:25.200 --> 01:47:28.100
<01:47:25.200>in <01:47:25.400>our <01:47:25.599>OT <01:47:25.800>environment, <01:47:26.000>we <01:47:26.200>are <01:47:26.400>a <01:47:26.599>little

2137
01:47:28.100 --> 01:47:31.200
<01:47:28.100>bit <01:47:28.300>behind <01:47:28.500>because <01:47:28.700>development <01:47:28.900>Cycles <01:47:29.100>are <01:47:29.300>a <01:47:29.500>little

2138
01:47:31.200 --> 01:47:34.100
<01:47:31.200>bit <01:47:31.340>slower. <01:47:31.480>But <01:47:31.620>this <01:47:31.760>is <01:47:31.900>something <01:47:32.040>where <01:47:32.179>I <01:47:32.320>see <01:47:32.460>in <01:47:32.599>the

2139
01:47:34.100 --> 01:47:38.100
<01:47:34.100>future <01:47:34.227>and <01:47:34.354>the <01:47:34.481>second <01:47:34.609>is <01:47:34.736>what <01:47:34.863>we <01:47:34.990>had <01:47:35.118>in <01:47:35.245>the <01:47:35.372>AI <01:47:35.500>in

2140
01:47:37.100 --> 01:47:40.300
<01:47:37.100>recognizing <01:47:38.500>malicious.

2141
01:47:41.200 --> 01:47:44.600
<01:47:41.200>malicious <01:47:41.375>code <01:47:41.550>is <01:47:41.724>I <01:47:41.900>think <01:47:42.075>this <01:47:42.250>is <01:47:42.425>also <01:47:42.599>I

2142
01:47:44.600 --> 01:47:46.300
<01:47:44.600>mean <01:47:45.066>AI <01:47:45.533>is <01:47:46.000>in

2143
01:47:47.300 --> 01:47:50.600
<01:47:47.300>You <01:47:47.580>you <01:47:47.860>pick <01:47:48.140>up <01:47:48.420>any <01:47:48.700>any

2144
01:47:50.600 --> 01:47:53.900
<01:47:50.600>news <01:47:50.800>of <01:47:51.000>an <01:47:51.200>of <01:47:51.400>an <01:47:51.600>IT <01:47:51.800>paper <01:47:52.000>or

2145
01:47:53.900 --> 01:47:57.700
<01:47:53.900>of <01:47:54.075>a <01:47:54.250>website <01:47:54.424>and <01:47:54.599>you <01:47:54.775>see <01:47:54.950>AI <01:47:55.125>there <01:47:55.299>is

2146
01:47:57.700 --> 01:48:01.500
<01:47:57.700>and <01:47:57.933>and <01:47:58.166>this <01:47:58.400>is <01:47:58.633>something <01:47:58.866>like <01:47:59.099>the

2147
01:48:01.500 --> 01:48:04.500
<01:48:01.500>chat <01:48:01.700>Chi <01:48:01.900>PT. <01:48:02.100>There <01:48:02.300>will <01:48:02.500>be <01:48:02.700>numerous <01:48:02.900>things

2148
01:48:04.500 --> 01:48:05.600
<01:48:04.500>where <01:48:04.747>this <01:48:04.995>can <01:48:05.242>be <01:48:05.490>used.

2149
01:48:07.100 --> 01:48:07.300
Yes.

2150
01:48:08.200 --> 01:48:11.800
<01:48:08.200>I <01:48:08.375>also <01:48:08.550>integrated <01:48:08.724>it <01:48:08.900>also <01:48:09.075>into <01:48:09.250>my <01:48:09.425>workflow <01:48:09.599>in

2151
01:48:11.800 --> 01:48:14.300
<01:48:11.800>something. <01:48:11.955>So <01:48:12.111>at <01:48:12.266>some <01:48:12.422>point <01:48:12.577>it <01:48:12.733>works <01:48:12.888>better <01:48:13.044>at <01:48:13.200>some

2152
01:48:14.300 --> 01:48:17.300
<01:48:14.300>points. <01:48:14.387>It <01:48:14.475>works <01:48:14.562>not <01:48:14.650>so <01:48:14.737>bad. <01:48:14.825>You <01:48:14.912>have <01:48:15.000>to <01:48:15.087>figure <01:48:15.175>it <01:48:15.262>out <01:48:15.350>for <01:48:15.437>yourself, <01:48:15.525>but <01:48:15.612>I <01:48:15.700>think

2153
01:48:17.300 --> 01:48:20.200
<01:48:17.300>I <01:48:17.580>will <01:48:17.860>also <01:48:18.140>provide <01:48:18.420>access <01:48:18.700>to

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<01:48:20.200>like <01:48:20.327>a <01:48:20.454>new <01:48:20.581>job. <01:48:20.709>So <01:48:20.836>create <01:48:20.963>new <01:48:21.090>jobs <01:48:21.218>in <01:48:21.345>general. <01:48:21.472>I <01:48:21.599>think

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<01:48:23.400>in <01:48:23.679>in <01:48:23.960>the <01:48:24.240>nearer <01:48:24.519>future <01:48:24.799>and

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<01:48:26.700>talking <01:48:27.050>about <01:48:27.400>shops <01:48:27.750>back <01:48:28.099>to

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<01:48:29.700>you <01:48:29.980>Elizabeth. <01:48:30.260>We <01:48:30.540>have <01:48:30.820>the <01:48:31.099>question.

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<01:48:32.300>How <01:48:32.475>can <01:48:32.650>we <01:48:32.825>follow <01:48:33.000>what <01:48:33.175>our <01:48:33.350>CV <01:48:33.525>to <01:48:33.700>miss

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<01:48:35.100>bomb? <01:48:36.500>Sorry.

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<01:48:38.500>Is <01:48:38.733>of <01:48:38.966>course, <01:48:39.200>um, <01:48:39.433>I <01:48:39.666>don't <01:48:39.900>know

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<01:48:41.100>I <01:48:41.200>can <01:48:41.300>give <01:48:41.400>you <01:48:41.500>give <01:48:41.600>you <01:48:41.700>my <01:48:41.800>email <01:48:41.900>address <01:48:42.000>or <01:48:42.100>I <01:48:42.200>don't <01:48:42.300>know <01:48:42.400>Benedict. <01:48:42.500>If

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<01:48:44.500>you <01:48:44.700>give <01:48:44.900>the <01:48:45.100>email <01:48:45.300>address <01:48:45.500>to <01:48:45.700>to <01:48:45.900>or

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<01:48:47.100>you <01:48:47.300>can <01:48:47.500>go <01:48:47.700>on <01:48:47.900>the <01:48:48.100>home <01:48:48.300>page <01:48:48.500>of

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<01:48:50.100>the <01:48:50.333>studwig <01:48:50.566>Munich <01:48:50.800>and <01:48:51.033>there's <01:48:51.266>a <01:48:51.500>possibility

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<01:48:53.300>to <01:48:53.533>to <01:48:53.766>apply <01:48:54.000>there's <01:48:54.233>a <01:48:54.466>button <01:48:54.700>to

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<01:48:56.700>apply <01:48:56.900>for <01:48:57.099>the <01:48:57.300>position <01:48:57.500>and <01:48:57.700>you <01:48:57.900>also <01:48:58.099>have

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01:48:59.200 --> 01:49:02.800
<01:48:59.200>the <01:48:59.355>possibility. <01:48:59.511>If <01:48:59.666>you <01:48:59.822>don't <01:48:59.977>find <01:49:00.133>the <01:49:00.288>right <01:49:00.444>position <01:49:00.599>for

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<01:49:02.800>your <01:49:03.000>profile, <01:49:03.200>you <01:49:03.400>can <01:49:03.600>send <01:49:03.800>us <01:49:04.000>an <01:49:04.200>initiative

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<01:49:05.800>available <01:49:06.080>and <01:49:06.360>there's <01:49:06.640>also <01:49:06.920>the <01:49:07.200>possibility

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<01:49:08.400>to <01:49:08.750>to <01:49:09.099>put <01:49:09.450>on <01:49:09.799>on

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<01:49:13.500>And <01:49:13.700>put <01:49:13.900>on <01:49:14.100>the <01:49:14.300>button <01:49:14.500>for <01:49:14.700>in <01:49:14.900>30th

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<01:49:16.500>available <01:49:16.700>and <01:49:16.900>then <01:49:17.100>we <01:49:17.300>will <01:49:17.500>share <01:49:17.700>these <01:49:17.900>this

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<01:49:19.100>applications <01:49:19.566>to <01:49:20.033>a <01:49:20.500>different

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<01:49:22.200>departments. <01:49:22.355>We <01:49:22.511>will <01:49:22.666>check <01:49:22.822>the <01:49:22.977>applications <01:49:23.133>and <01:49:23.288>then <01:49:23.444>you <01:49:23.599>will

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<01:49:25.900>get <01:49:26.057>an <01:49:26.215>answer <01:49:26.372>for <01:49:26.530>me.

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<01:49:28.500>my <01:49:29.900>address

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<01:49:31.700>yeah, <01:49:31.855>thanks <01:49:32.011>for <01:49:32.166>that. <01:49:32.322>We <01:49:32.477>can <01:49:32.633>post <01:49:32.788>it. <01:49:32.944>But <01:49:33.099>we

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<01:49:34.300>have <01:49:34.455>also <01:49:34.611>some <01:49:34.766>of <01:49:34.922>your <01:49:35.077>jobs <01:49:35.233>listed <01:49:35.388>at <01:49:35.544>weird <01:49:35.700>developers.com.

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<01:49:37.600>So <01:49:37.755>this <01:49:37.911>is <01:49:38.066>also <01:49:38.222>a <01:49:38.377>way <01:49:38.533>you <01:49:38.688>can <01:49:38.844>apply <01:49:39.000>and

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<01:49:40.200>it's <01:49:40.340>also <01:49:40.480>a <01:49:40.620>very <01:49:40.760>easy <01:49:40.900>way <01:49:41.040>and <01:49:41.179>you <01:49:41.320>can <01:49:41.460>directly <01:49:41.599>forward

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<01:49:43.800>them <01:49:44.080>to <01:49:44.360>to <01:49:44.640>respond <01:49:44.920>from <01:49:45.200>there.

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<01:49:46.700>So <01:49:46.900>this <01:49:47.099>is <01:49:47.300>also <01:49:47.500>an <01:49:47.700>option <01:49:47.900>for <01:49:48.099>you.

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So

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<01:49:53.300>another <01:49:53.475>question <01:49:53.650>from <01:49:53.825>Kevin <01:49:54.000>to <01:49:54.175>you <01:49:54.350>Court, <01:49:54.525>since <01:49:54.700>you

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<01:49:56.300>mentioned <01:49:56.427>that <01:49:56.554>you're <01:49:56.681>doing <01:49:56.809>a <01:49:56.936>bit <01:49:57.063>of <01:49:57.190>python <01:49:57.318>work <01:49:57.445>in <01:49:57.572>your <01:49:57.700>free

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<01:49:59.300>time. <01:49:59.407>He <01:49:59.515>wants <01:49:59.623>to <01:49:59.730>know <01:49:59.838>quotes. <01:49:59.946>Do <01:50:00.053>you <01:50:00.161>have <01:50:00.269>a <01:50:00.376>website <01:50:00.484>to <01:50:00.592>Learn <01:50:00.700>Python

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<01:50:02.700>for <01:50:02.970>cyber <01:50:03.240>security?

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<01:50:04.500>Yeah, <01:50:04.700>I <01:50:04.900>I <01:50:05.100>when <01:50:05.300>I <01:50:05.500>started <01:50:05.700>to <01:50:05.900>Learn

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01:50:07.400 --> 01:50:11.000
<01:50:07.400>Python, <01:50:07.555>I <01:50:07.711>didn't <01:50:07.866>use <01:50:08.022>a <01:50:08.177>website <01:50:08.333>I <01:50:08.488>was <01:50:08.644>it <01:50:08.799>was

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<01:50:10.100>a <01:50:10.240>bit <01:50:10.380>of <01:50:10.520>a <01:50:10.660>Kind <01:50:10.800>old-fashioned <01:50:10.940>but <01:50:11.080>there <01:50:11.220>is <01:50:11.360>an <01:50:11.500>author

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<01:50:14.500>called <01:50:14.850>L <01:50:15.200>swigart. <01:50:15.550>He's <01:50:15.900>from

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<01:50:17.100>the <01:50:17.300>USA <01:50:17.500>and <01:50:17.700>there's <01:50:17.900>a <01:50:18.100>starting <01:50:18.300>book. <01:50:18.500>I

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<01:50:21.200>used <01:50:21.355>it <01:50:21.511>as <01:50:21.666>an <01:50:21.822>ebook <01:50:21.977>to <01:50:22.133>how <01:50:22.288>to <01:50:22.444>automate <01:50:22.599>routine

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<01:50:24.300>tasks <01:50:25.000>with <01:50:25.700>python.

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and

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01:50:29.200 --> 01:50:32.600
<01:50:29.200>and <01:50:29.300>this <01:50:29.400>is <01:50:29.500>this <01:50:29.599>was <01:50:29.700>the <01:50:29.800>starting <01:50:29.900>book <01:50:30.000>for <01:50:30.099>me. <01:50:30.200>So <01:50:30.300>I <01:50:30.400>I <01:50:30.500>picked <01:50:30.599>up

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<01:50:32.600>because <01:50:32.880>in <01:50:33.160>this <01:50:33.440>book <01:50:33.720>the <01:50:34.000>principles

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<01:50:35.800>are <01:50:36.000>explained <01:50:36.200>and <01:50:36.400>how <01:50:36.600>things <01:50:36.800>are <01:50:37.000>fitting <01:50:37.200>together

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<01:50:38.400>and <01:50:38.679>how <01:50:38.960>why <01:50:39.240>things <01:50:39.519>are <01:50:39.799>done

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<01:50:41.700>in <01:50:41.840>the <01:50:41.980>way <01:50:42.120>they <01:50:42.260>are <01:50:42.400>done. <01:50:42.540>So <01:50:42.679>it <01:50:42.820>explains <01:50:42.960>a <01:50:43.099>bit

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01:50:44.100 --> 01:50:47.600
<01:50:44.100>the <01:50:44.275>basic <01:50:44.450>principles. <01:50:44.625>And <01:50:44.800>from <01:50:44.975>that <01:50:45.150>on <01:50:45.325>I <01:50:45.500>use

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01:50:47.600 --> 01:50:50.400
<01:50:47.600>there <01:50:47.800>are <01:50:48.000>numerous. <01:50:48.200>There <01:50:48.400>are <01:50:48.600>YouTube <01:50:48.800>videos <01:50:49.000>which

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01:50:50.400 --> 01:50:54.400
<01:50:50.400>are <01:50:50.599>quite <01:50:50.799>good. <01:50:51.000>There <01:50:51.200>are <01:50:51.400>some <01:50:51.599>some <01:50:51.799>web

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<01:50:53.400>pages, <01:50:53.866>but <01:50:54.333>this <01:50:54.799>was

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01:50:56.400 --> 01:50:58.300
<01:50:56.400>for <01:50:56.575>me <01:50:56.750>the <01:50:56.924>starting <01:50:57.099>point. <01:50:57.275>It <01:50:57.450>was <01:50:57.625>quite <01:50:57.799>good.

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01:51:00.300 --> 01:51:04.100
<01:51:00.300>So <01:51:00.475>so <01:51:00.650>lots <01:51:00.825>of <01:51:01.000>resources <01:51:01.175>available <01:51:01.350>since <01:51:01.525>python <01:51:01.700>is

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01:51:03.100 --> 01:51:06.300
<01:51:03.100>kind <01:51:03.333>of <01:51:03.566>in <01:51:03.800>a <01:51:04.033>hype <01:51:04.266>nowadays. <01:51:04.500>I

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01:51:06.300 --> 01:51:09.300
<01:51:06.300>think <01:51:06.455>it's <01:51:06.611>not <01:51:06.766>that <01:51:06.922>that <01:51:07.077>hard <01:51:07.233>to <01:51:07.388>find <01:51:07.544>something <01:51:07.700>that

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<01:51:09.300>fits <01:51:09.500>your <01:51:09.700>learning <01:51:09.900>style <01:51:10.100>and <01:51:10.300>maybe <01:51:10.500>another <01:51:10.700>question

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<01:51:12.600>to <01:51:12.833>both <01:51:13.066>of <01:51:13.300>you. <01:51:13.533>Maybe <01:51:13.766>what <01:51:14.000>role

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01:51:15.700 --> 01:51:19.100
<01:51:15.700>do <01:51:15.900>government <01:51:16.099>agencies <01:51:16.300>play <01:51:16.500>in <01:51:16.700>ensuring <01:51:16.900>cybersecurity <01:51:17.099>for

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<01:51:18.100>critical <01:51:19.500>infrastructure.

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01:51:23.800 --> 01:51:26.300
<01:51:23.800>It's <01:51:24.080>they're <01:51:24.360>getting <01:51:24.640>more <01:51:24.920>and <01:51:25.200>more

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<01:51:26.300>the <01:51:26.475>role <01:51:26.650>is <01:51:26.825>getting <01:51:27.000>more <01:51:27.175>and <01:51:27.350>more <01:51:27.525>intense <01:51:27.700>because

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<01:51:29.300>about <01:51:30.000>eight <01:51:30.700>years

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<01:51:32.500>ago. <01:51:32.675>It <01:51:32.850>was <01:51:33.025>the <01:51:33.200>first <01:51:33.375>time <01:51:33.550>that <01:51:33.725>critical <01:51:33.900>infrastructures

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01:51:35.300 --> 01:51:38.300
<01:51:35.300>need <01:51:35.650>to <01:51:36.000>certify <01:51:36.350>according <01:51:36.700>to

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<01:51:38.300>the <01:51:38.766>iso <01:51:39.233>27,000 <01:51:39.700>standard.

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<01:51:41.100>At <01:51:41.380>this <01:51:41.660>first <01:51:41.940>certification <01:51:42.220>it <01:51:42.500>was

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<01:51:44.100>quite <01:51:44.380>yeah, <01:51:44.660>it <01:51:44.940>was <01:51:45.220>having <01:51:45.500>a

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01:51:47.600 --> 01:51:50.400
<01:51:47.600>look <01:51:47.833>and <01:51:48.066>putting <01:51:48.300>some <01:51:48.533>information <01:51:48.766>here <01:51:49.000>and

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<01:51:50.400>there <01:51:50.599>it <01:51:50.799>was <01:51:51.000>not <01:51:51.200>that <01:51:51.400>hard <01:51:51.599>and <01:51:51.799>you

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<01:51:53.200>have <01:51:53.340>to <01:51:53.480>research <01:51:53.620>if <01:51:53.760>I <01:51:53.900>externally <01:51:54.040>every <01:51:54.179>two <01:51:54.320>years <01:51:54.460>and <01:51:54.599>the

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<01:51:56.300>level <01:51:56.580>from <01:51:56.860>the <01:51:57.140>government <01:51:57.420>to <01:51:57.700>the

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<01:51:59.200>researchification <01:51:59.433>was <01:51:59.666>getting <01:51:59.900>up <01:52:00.133>up <01:52:00.366>because <01:52:00.599>they

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<01:52:02.100>they <01:52:02.333>invented <01:52:02.566>the <01:52:02.800>system <01:52:03.033>and <01:52:03.266>now <01:52:03.500>they're

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<01:52:05.400>they're <01:52:05.679>having <01:52:05.960>a <01:52:06.240>big <01:52:06.519>they <01:52:06.799>want

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<01:52:08.700>to <01:52:08.900>ensure <01:52:09.099>that <01:52:09.300>they're <01:52:09.500>really <01:52:09.700>the <01:52:09.900>the <01:52:10.099>companies

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<01:52:11.700>doing <01:52:11.980>critical <01:52:12.260>infrastructure <01:52:12.540>are <01:52:12.820>up <01:52:13.099>with

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<01:52:14.200>a <01:52:14.400>cyber <01:52:14.599>security <01:52:14.800>and <01:52:15.000>so <01:52:15.200>like <01:52:15.400>we <01:52:15.599>had

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<01:52:17.300>in <01:52:17.427>the <01:52:17.554>in <01:52:17.681>the <01:52:17.809>guidelines <01:52:17.936>with <01:52:18.063>the <01:52:18.190>slide <01:52:18.318>I <01:52:18.445>had <01:52:18.572>it's <01:52:18.700>really

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<01:52:20.900>that <01:52:21.250>you're <01:52:21.599>getting <01:52:21.950>more <01:52:22.299>and

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<01:52:23.400>more <01:52:24.099>guidelines <01:52:24.799>or

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<01:52:26.500>more <01:52:26.733>and <01:52:26.966>more <01:52:27.200>loss <01:52:27.433>from <01:52:27.666>from <01:52:27.900>the

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<01:52:29.500>government <01:52:29.675>what <01:52:29.850>to <01:52:30.025>do <01:52:30.200>how <01:52:30.375>to <01:52:30.550>do <01:52:30.725>and <01:52:30.900>they

2236
01:52:32.300 --> 01:52:36.000
<01:52:32.300>are <01:52:32.766>more <01:52:33.233>often <01:52:33.700>controlled.

2237
01:52:35.300 --> 01:52:38.300
<01:52:35.300>So <01:52:35.580>they're <01:52:35.860>stepping <01:52:36.140>in <01:52:36.420>more <01:52:36.700>and

2238
01:52:38.300 --> 01:52:41.000
<01:52:38.300>more <01:52:38.475>and <01:52:38.650>I <01:52:38.825>think <01:52:39.000>this <01:52:39.175>this <01:52:39.350>path <01:52:39.525>is <01:52:39.700>still

2239
01:52:41.200 --> 01:52:44.200
<01:52:41.200>Not <01:52:41.300>at <01:52:41.400>the <01:52:41.500>end. <01:52:41.599>So <01:52:41.700>we <01:52:41.800>will <01:52:41.900>see <01:52:42.000>it <01:52:42.099>in <01:52:42.200>the <01:52:42.300>next <01:52:42.400>five <01:52:42.500>or <01:52:42.599>ten

2240
01:52:44.200 --> 01:52:48.500
<01:52:44.200>years <01:52:44.400>that <01:52:44.599>like <01:52:44.800>in <01:52:45.000>Germany <01:52:45.200>the <01:52:45.400>BSI. <01:52:45.599>They

2241
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<01:52:47.500>will <01:52:47.700>have <01:52:47.900>a <01:52:48.100>very <01:52:48.300>close <01:52:48.500>look <01:52:48.700>and <01:52:48.900>they

2242
01:52:50.300 --> 01:52:52.200
<01:52:50.300>will <01:52:50.475>tell <01:52:50.650>you <01:52:50.825>a <01:52:51.000>very <01:52:51.175>precisely <01:52:51.350>what <01:52:51.525>to <01:52:51.700>do.

2243
01:52:54.300 --> 01:52:58.700
<01:52:54.300>But <01:52:54.475>thanks <01:52:54.650>for <01:52:54.825>the <01:52:55.000>answers. <01:52:55.175>Well <01:52:55.350>could <01:52:55.525>before <01:52:55.700>we

2244
01:52:58.700 --> 01:53:01.600
<01:52:58.700>close <01:52:58.933>the <01:52:59.166>session. <01:52:59.400>Maybe <01:52:59.633>you <01:52:59.866>do <01:53:00.099>you

2245
01:53:01.600 --> 01:53:04.800
<01:53:01.600>have <01:53:01.740>anything <01:53:01.880>more <01:53:02.020>to <01:53:02.160>share <01:53:02.300>with <01:53:02.440>the <01:53:02.580>audience <01:53:02.720>some <01:53:02.860>questions <01:53:03.000>that

2246
01:53:04.800 --> 01:53:07.200
<01:53:04.800>didn't <01:53:05.033>came <01:53:05.266>up <01:53:05.500>some <01:53:05.733>information <01:53:05.966>you <01:53:06.200>want

2247
01:53:07.200 --> 01:53:07.800
<01:53:07.200>to <01:53:07.380>give <01:53:07.560>to <01:53:07.740>them?

2248
01:53:09.400 --> 01:53:11.900
<01:53:09.400>regardless <01:53:09.679>of <01:53:09.960>technical <01:53:10.240>or <01:53:10.519>company <01:53:10.799>side

2249
01:53:13.700 --> 01:53:16.200
<01:53:13.700>from <01:53:13.980>my <01:53:14.260>side <01:53:14.540>many <01:53:14.820>thanks <01:53:15.099>to

2250
01:53:16.200 --> 01:53:19.500
<01:53:16.200>the <01:53:16.327>question. <01:53:16.454>It <01:53:16.581>was <01:53:16.709>it <01:53:16.836>was <01:53:16.963>yeah, <01:53:17.090>it <01:53:17.218>was <01:53:17.345>wonderful <01:53:17.472>two <01:53:17.599>hours

2251
01:53:19.500 --> 01:53:21.200
<01:53:19.500>and <01:53:19.850>I <01:53:20.200>really <01:53:20.550>enjoyed <01:53:20.900>it.

2252
01:53:21.900 --> 01:53:24.700
<01:53:21.900>It <01:53:22.250>was <01:53:22.599>very <01:53:22.950>different <01:53:23.299>questions

2253
01:53:24.700 --> 01:53:27.700
<01:53:24.700>and <01:53:25.050>also <01:53:25.400>very <01:53:25.750>wise <01:53:26.099>questions.

2254
01:53:27.700 --> 01:53:30.300
<01:53:27.700>I <01:53:27.900>never <01:53:28.099>saw <01:53:28.300>any <01:53:28.500>stupid <01:53:28.700>one. <01:53:28.900>Like <01:53:29.099>one

2255
01:53:30.300 --> 01:53:33.400
<01:53:30.300>of <01:53:30.580>the <01:53:30.860>participants <01:53:31.140>told <01:53:31.420>us. <01:53:31.700>It

2256
01:53:33.400 --> 01:53:35.400
<01:53:33.400>was. <01:53:33.575>Yeah. <01:53:33.750>It <01:53:33.924>was <01:53:34.099>very <01:53:34.275>good. <01:53:34.450>I <01:53:34.625>really <01:53:34.799>yeah.

2257
01:53:36.600 --> 01:53:38.600
<01:53:36.600>Fine. <01:53:36.950>Thanks <01:53:37.300>for <01:53:37.650>invitation <01:53:38.000>Benedict.

2258
01:53:40.300 --> 01:53:41.700
<01:53:40.300>you <01:53:41.559>and

2259
01:53:45.500 --> 01:53:46.700
<01:53:45.500>professional <01:53:45.860>also <01:53:46.220>very <01:53:46.580>much

2260
01:53:46.900 --> 01:53:49.600
<01:53:46.900>and <01:53:47.099>I <01:53:47.299>would <01:53:47.500>like <01:53:47.700>to <01:53:47.900>encourage <01:53:48.099>everybody <01:53:48.299>to

2261
01:53:49.600 --> 01:53:52.300
<01:53:49.600>send <01:53:49.800>me <01:53:50.000>an <01:53:50.200>application. <01:53:50.400>We <01:53:50.600>will <01:53:50.800>find <01:53:51.000>a

2262
01:53:52.300 --> 01:53:55.700
<01:53:52.300>job <01:53:52.455>for <01:53:52.611>you <01:53:52.766>because <01:53:52.922>we <01:53:53.077>have <01:53:53.233>some <01:53:53.388>open <01:53:53.544>positions. <01:53:53.700>And

2263
01:53:55.700 --> 01:53:58.600
<01:53:55.700>so <01:53:55.980>I <01:53:56.260>think <01:53:56.540>it's <01:53:56.820>it's <01:53:57.099>wonderful

2264
01:53:58.600 --> 01:54:01.500
<01:53:58.600>to <01:53:58.800>work <01:53:59.000>and <01:53:59.200>start <01:53:59.400>their <01:53:59.600>Munich <01:53:59.800>come <01:54:00.000>to

2265
01:54:01.500 --> 01:54:04.200
<01:54:01.500>Munich <01:54:01.850>Theo <01:54:02.200>company. <01:54:02.550>Thank <01:54:02.900>you

2266
01:54:04.200 --> 01:54:07.000
<01:54:04.200>very <01:54:04.355>much <01:54:04.511>for <01:54:04.666>everything <01:54:04.822>and <01:54:04.977>Benedict. <01:54:05.133>Thank <01:54:05.288>you <01:54:05.444>very <01:54:05.599>much.

2267
01:54:07.600 --> 01:54:08.300
<01:54:07.600>It <01:54:07.810>was <01:54:08.020>wonderful <01:54:08.230>session.

2268
01:54:10.200 --> 01:54:13.300
<01:54:10.200>Yeah, <01:54:10.316>I <01:54:10.433>can <01:54:10.550>also <01:54:10.666>give <01:54:10.783>that <01:54:10.900>back <01:54:11.016>to <01:54:11.133>you. <01:54:11.250>It <01:54:11.366>was <01:54:11.483>wonderful <01:54:11.599>to

2269
01:54:13.300 --> 01:54:16.400
<01:54:13.300>have <01:54:13.427>people <01:54:13.554>both <01:54:13.681>of <01:54:13.809>you <01:54:13.936>and <01:54:14.063>then <01:54:14.190>I <01:54:14.318>would <01:54:14.445>say <01:54:14.572>have <01:54:14.700>a

2270
01:54:16.400 --> 01:54:19.100
<01:54:16.400>nice <01:54:16.555>rest <01:54:16.711>of <01:54:16.866>today <01:54:17.022>many <01:54:17.177>many <01:54:17.333>greetings <01:54:17.488>to <01:54:17.644>Munich <01:54:17.799>from

2271
01:54:19.100 --> 01:54:22.400
<01:54:19.100>Vienna <01:54:19.240>and <01:54:19.380>hopefully <01:54:19.520>see <01:54:19.660>you <01:54:19.800>soon <01:54:19.940>on <01:54:20.080>maybe <01:54:20.220>another <01:54:20.360>life <01:54:20.500>day.

2272
01:54:22.400 --> 01:54:24.100
<01:54:22.400>Yeah, <01:54:23.799>right.

2273
01:54:25.100 --> 01:54:26.100
<01:54:25.100>Okay. <01:54:25.400>See <01:54:25.700>you <01:54:26.000>soon.

2274
01:54:27.200 --> 01:54:27.900
<01:54:27.200>Yeah, <01:54:27.830>bye.