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<00:23:26.115>or <00:23:26.461>too <00:23:26.808>much <00:23:27.154>or <00:23:27.501>whatever,

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393
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394
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<00:23:48.585>so <00:23:48.740>to, <00:23:48.896>to <00:23:49.051>also <00:23:49.207>give <00:23:49.362>some, <00:23:49.518>some <00:23:49.673>background <00:23:49.829>to <00:23:49.985>it.

395
00:23:52.305 --> 00:23:56.005
<00:23:52.305>Um, <00:23:52.585>nevertheless, <00:23:52.865>um, <00:23:53.145>it's <00:23:53.425>always, <00:23:53.705>uh,

396
00:23:56.075 --> 00:23:57.365
<00:23:56.075>room <00:23:56.655>for <00:23:57.236>interpretation.

397
00:23:57.625 --> 00:24:00.145
<00:23:57.625>So, <00:23:58.091>um, <00:23:58.558>as <00:23:59.025>mentioned

398
00:24:00.145 --> 00:24:03.025
<00:24:00.145>before, <00:24:00.285>take <00:24:00.425>out <00:24:00.565>of <00:24:00.705>it <00:24:00.845>what <00:24:00.985>you <00:24:01.125>think <00:24:01.264>fits <00:24:01.405>for <00:24:01.545>you

399
00:24:03.645 --> 00:24:04.745
<00:24:03.645>or <00:24:03.892>what <00:24:04.139>speaks <00:24:04.387>to <00:24:04.635>you

400
00:24:05.405 --> 00:24:10.265
<00:24:05.405>and, <00:24:05.560>um, <00:24:05.716>the <00:24:05.871>other <00:24:06.027>things, <00:24:06.182>um, <00:24:06.338>yeah, <00:24:06.493>maybe <00:24:06.649>even, <00:24:06.805>um,

401
00:24:12.585 --> 00:24:16.125
<00:24:12.585>go <00:24:12.712>to <00:24:12.839>other <00:24:12.966>sources <00:24:13.094>and, <00:24:13.221>and <00:24:13.348>try <00:24:13.475>to <00:24:13.603>figure <00:24:13.730>out <00:24:13.857>by <00:24:13.985>yourself.

402
00:24:17.065 --> 00:24:20.645
<00:24:17.065>Um, <00:24:17.240>I <00:24:17.415>wanted <00:24:17.590>to <00:24:17.765>start <00:24:17.940>with <00:24:18.115>the <00:24:18.290>Muslims <00:24:18.465>pyramid

403
00:24:20.645 --> 00:24:23.125
<00:24:20.645>because <00:24:20.878>I <00:24:21.111>think <00:24:21.345>it's <00:24:21.578>already <00:24:21.811>well <00:24:22.045>known.

404
00:24:23.825 --> 00:24:26.685
<00:24:23.825>Um, <00:24:24.025>so <00:24:24.225>as <00:24:24.425>far <00:24:24.625>as, <00:24:24.825>you <00:24:25.025>know, <00:24:25.225>um,

405
00:24:28.665 --> 00:24:32.765
<00:24:28.665>Maslow <00:24:28.840>divided, <00:24:29.014>uh, <00:24:29.190>the <00:24:29.365>human <00:24:29.540>needs <00:24:29.715>actually <00:24:29.889>in <00:24:30.065>layers,

406
00:24:33.915 --> 00:24:35.775
<00:24:33.915>and <00:24:34.195>you <00:24:34.475>actually <00:24:34.754>have <00:24:35.034>to <00:24:35.315>meet

407
00:24:35.915 --> 00:24:39.695
<00:24:35.915>or <00:24:36.115>to <00:24:36.315>satisfy <00:24:36.514>the, <00:24:36.715>the <00:24:36.915>lowest <00:24:37.115>layer <00:24:37.315>first

408
00:24:40.595 --> 00:24:43.215
<00:24:40.595>in <00:24:40.875>order <00:24:41.155>to, <00:24:41.435>uh, <00:24:41.715>be <00:24:41.995>able

409
00:24:43.315 --> 00:24:45.655
<00:24:43.315>to <00:24:43.595>also <00:24:43.875>satisfy <00:24:44.155>the <00:24:44.435>other <00:24:44.715>layers.

410
00:24:45.995 --> 00:24:48.495
<00:24:45.995>So <00:24:46.228>they're <00:24:46.461>actually <00:24:46.695>built <00:24:46.928>upon <00:24:47.161>each <00:24:47.395>other.

411
00:24:49.475 --> 00:24:53.535
<00:24:49.475>And <00:24:49.754>what <00:24:50.034>Maslow <00:24:50.314>actually <00:24:50.594>criticized, <00:24:50.875>um,

412
00:24:53.805 --> 00:24:56.215
<00:24:53.805>back <00:24:54.005>in <00:24:54.205>his <00:24:54.405>times <00:24:54.605>was <00:24:54.805>that, <00:24:55.005>uh, <00:24:55.205>companies

413
00:24:56.235 --> 00:25:00.295
<00:24:56.235>and <00:24:56.514>especially <00:24:56.794>managers, <00:24:57.074>um, <00:24:57.354>try <00:24:57.635>to

414
00:25:01.095 --> 00:25:04.455
<00:25:01.095>motivate <00:25:01.270>their <00:25:01.445>employees <00:25:01.620>only <00:25:01.795>with <00:25:01.970>the <00:25:02.145>second <00:25:02.320>two <00:25:02.495>layers.

415
00:25:05.235 --> 00:25:08.415
<00:25:05.235>So, <00:25:05.584>uh, <00:25:05.935>the <00:25:06.284>physiology, <00:25:06.635>physiological,

416
00:25:08.835 --> 00:25:12.335
<00:25:08.835>and <00:25:09.068>safety <00:25:09.301>needs, <00:25:09.535>uh, <00:25:09.768>which <00:25:10.001>is, <00:25:10.235>yeah,

417
00:25:12.515 --> 00:25:13.975
<00:25:12.515>the <00:25:12.953>bare <00:25:13.391>basic <00:25:13.829>actually.

418
00:25:14.515 --> 00:25:18.175
<00:25:14.515>Um, <00:25:14.690>and <00:25:14.865>he <00:25:15.040>also <00:25:15.215>mentioned <00:25:15.390>that <00:25:15.565>they <00:25:15.740>would, <00:25:15.915>um,

419
00:25:19.035 --> 00:25:24.015
<00:25:19.035>do <00:25:19.175>a <00:25:19.315>way <00:25:19.455>better <00:25:19.595>job <00:25:19.735>if <00:25:19.875>they <00:25:20.015>would <00:25:20.155>also, <00:25:20.295>um, <00:25:20.435>affect

420
00:25:24.075 --> 00:25:25.855
<00:25:24.075>or, <00:25:24.355>or <00:25:24.635>treat <00:25:24.915>the <00:25:25.195>other <00:25:25.475>needs.

421
00:25:26.155 --> 00:25:28.575
<00:25:26.155>So <00:25:26.330>give <00:25:26.504>them <00:25:26.680>something <00:25:26.855>to <00:25:27.030>get <00:25:27.205>out <00:25:27.379>of <00:25:27.555>that.

422
00:25:29.435 --> 00:25:32.295
<00:25:29.435>Um, <00:25:29.784>this <00:25:30.135>is <00:25:30.485>actually <00:25:30.835>what,

423
00:25:32.355 --> 00:25:35.095
<00:25:32.355>what's <00:25:32.705>often <00:25:33.055>done <00:25:33.405>in <00:25:33.755>agility

424
00:25:35.315 --> 00:25:39.575
<00:25:35.315>or <00:25:35.515>in, <00:25:35.715>in <00:25:35.915>those <00:25:36.115>HR <00:25:36.315>frameworks, <00:25:36.515>um, <00:25:36.715>due

425
00:25:39.595 --> 00:25:43.695
<00:25:39.595>to <00:25:39.795>the <00:25:39.995>team <00:25:40.195>structure, <00:25:40.395>which <00:25:40.595>is <00:25:40.795>quite <00:25:40.995>self-organizing

426
00:25:43.695 --> 00:25:44.695
<00:25:43.695>and <00:25:44.595>self-managing.

427
00:25:44.795 --> 00:25:46.335
<00:25:44.795>So, <00:25:45.141>um, <00:25:45.488>as <00:25:45.834>I <00:25:46.181>mentioned

428
00:25:46.335 --> 00:25:49.815
<00:25:46.335>before, <00:25:46.510>you <00:25:46.685>give <00:25:46.860>the <00:25:47.035>responsibility <00:25:47.210>to <00:25:47.385>the <00:25:47.560>team, <00:25:47.735>team,

429
00:25:49.995 --> 00:25:54.615
<00:25:49.995>you <00:25:50.150>give <00:25:50.306>a <00:25:50.461>purpose, <00:25:50.617>but, <00:25:50.772>um, <00:25:50.928>leave <00:25:51.083>it <00:25:51.239>with <00:25:51.395>them

430
00:25:54.795 --> 00:25:56.215
<00:25:54.795>and, <00:25:55.221>and <00:25:55.647>trust <00:25:56.072>them.

431
00:25:56.835 --> 00:25:59.135
<00:25:56.835>Um, <00:25:57.115>you <00:25:57.395>can <00:25:57.675>actually <00:25:57.955>trigger <00:25:58.235>and,

432
00:25:59.435 --> 00:26:03.435
<00:25:59.435>and, <00:25:59.635>um, <00:25:59.835>give <00:26:00.034>them <00:26:00.235>a <00:26:00.435>feeling <00:26:00.635>of <00:26:00.835>belongingness.

433
00:26:03.855 --> 00:26:07.435
<00:26:03.855>So <00:26:04.010>they <00:26:04.166>really <00:26:04.321>build <00:26:04.477>a <00:26:04.632>team <00:26:04.788>culture <00:26:04.943>to <00:26:05.099>by <00:26:05.255>themselves.

434
00:26:07.745 --> 00:26:10.115
<00:26:07.745>They <00:26:07.900>have <00:26:08.056>to <00:26:08.211>tackle <00:26:08.367>the <00:26:08.522>problems <00:26:08.678>together, <00:26:08.833>they <00:26:08.989>have <00:26:09.145>to

435
00:26:10.745 --> 00:26:14.715
<00:26:10.745>find <00:26:10.919>solutions <00:26:11.094>together, <00:26:11.270>and <00:26:11.445>this <00:26:11.620>really <00:26:11.794>plays <00:26:11.969>into <00:26:12.145>that.

436
00:26:15.495 --> 00:26:19.355
<00:26:15.495>Um, <00:26:15.669>the <00:26:15.844>second <00:26:16.020>thing <00:26:16.195>where, <00:26:16.370>where <00:26:16.544>it <00:26:16.719>comes, <00:26:16.895>um,

437
00:26:20.365 --> 00:26:25.275
<00:26:20.365>comes <00:26:20.520>in <00:26:20.676>place <00:26:20.831>is, <00:26:20.987>um, <00:26:21.142>that <00:26:21.298>due <00:26:21.453>to <00:26:21.609>the <00:26:21.765>cross-functionality,

438
00:26:26.135 --> 00:26:28.515
<00:26:26.135>um, <00:26:26.368>you <00:26:26.601>have <00:26:26.835>the <00:26:27.068>ability <00:26:27.301>to <00:26:27.535>shine.

439
00:26:29.015 --> 00:26:31.515
<00:26:29.015>So, <00:26:29.190>um, <00:26:29.365>I <00:26:29.540>don't <00:26:29.715>know <00:26:29.890>if <00:26:30.065>you <00:26:30.240>know <00:26:30.415>it,

440
00:26:31.735 --> 00:26:35.235
<00:26:31.735>but <00:26:31.935>um, <00:26:32.135>usually <00:26:32.334>you <00:26:32.534>say <00:26:32.735>you <00:26:32.935>want <00:26:33.135>to,

441
00:26:35.295 --> 00:26:37.715
<00:26:35.295>to <00:26:35.470>have <00:26:35.645>a <00:26:35.820>skill <00:26:35.995>set <00:26:36.170>in <00:26:36.345>the <00:26:36.520>T <00:26:36.695>form.

442
00:26:38.095 --> 00:26:40.915
<00:26:38.095>So <00:26:38.235>you <00:26:38.375>want <00:26:38.515>to <00:26:38.655>be <00:26:38.795>specialized <00:26:38.935>in <00:26:39.075>one <00:26:39.215>or <00:26:39.355>two <00:26:39.495>skills,

443
00:26:41.175 --> 00:26:45.405
<00:26:41.175>and <00:26:41.330>also <00:26:41.486>have <00:26:41.641>a <00:26:41.797>broad <00:26:41.952>knowledge <00:26:42.108>about <00:26:42.263>some, <00:26:42.419>some <00:26:42.575>skills,

444
00:26:46.145 --> 00:26:48.845
<00:26:46.145>and <00:26:46.378>you <00:26:46.611>can <00:26:46.845>really <00:26:47.078>make <00:26:47.311>a <00:26:47.545>difference.

445
00:26:49.025 --> 00:26:53.725
<00:26:49.025>So <00:26:49.200>you <00:26:49.375>can <00:26:49.550>really, <00:26:49.725>um, <00:26:49.900>develop <00:26:50.075>your <00:26:50.250>personal <00:26:50.425>potential

446
00:26:53.825 --> 00:26:55.685
<00:26:53.825>and <00:26:54.291>your <00:26:54.758>personal, <00:26:55.225>um,

447
00:26:57.155 --> 00:26:59.605
<00:26:57.155>talents <00:26:57.435>quite <00:26:57.715>well <00:26:57.995>in <00:26:58.274>HR <00:26:58.555>teams.

448
00:26:59.985 --> 00:27:02.365
<00:26:59.985>So <00:27:00.140>there <00:27:00.296>is <00:27:00.451>a <00:27:00.607>place <00:27:00.762>where <00:27:00.918>there's <00:27:01.073>also <00:27:01.229>the <00:27:01.385>needs

449
00:27:02.365 --> 00:27:04.005
<00:27:02.365>to <00:27:02.540>become <00:27:02.715>better <00:27:02.890>and <00:27:03.065>so <00:27:03.240>on <00:27:03.415>and <00:27:03.590>so <00:27:03.765>forth.

450
00:27:04.785 --> 00:27:09.045
<00:27:04.785>And <00:27:04.940>the <00:27:05.096>last <00:27:05.251>one, <00:27:05.407>uh, <00:27:05.562>where <00:27:05.718>agility <00:27:05.873>can <00:27:06.029>really, <00:27:06.185>uh,

451
00:27:09.605 --> 00:27:14.165
<00:27:09.605>motivate <00:27:09.780>people, <00:27:09.955>um, <00:27:10.130>is, <00:27:10.305>um, <00:27:10.480>the <00:27:10.655>sense <00:27:10.830>of <00:27:11.005>goals.

452
00:27:14.665 --> 00:27:18.325
<00:27:14.665>Um, <00:27:14.865>this, <00:27:15.065>seeing <00:27:15.264>what <00:27:15.465>the <00:27:15.665>customer <00:27:15.865>really <00:27:16.065>wants

453
00:27:18.505 --> 00:27:22.925
<00:27:18.505>and <00:27:18.660>how <00:27:18.816>it <00:27:18.971>actually <00:27:19.127>fits <00:27:19.282>for <00:27:19.438>him <00:27:19.593>or <00:27:19.749>her, <00:27:19.905>um,

454
00:27:23.225 --> 00:27:27.945
<00:27:23.225>and <00:27:23.399>how <00:27:23.574>you <00:27:23.750>can <00:27:23.925>really <00:27:24.100>support <00:27:24.274>somebody, <00:27:24.449>which <00:27:24.625>means,

455
00:27:28.245 --> 00:27:30.185
<00:27:28.245>or, <00:27:28.445>or <00:27:28.645>is <00:27:28.844>in <00:27:29.044>the, <00:27:29.245>in <00:27:29.445>the <00:27:29.645>pyramid,

456
00:27:30.565 --> 00:27:34.065
<00:27:30.565>the <00:27:30.798>self-actualization <00:27:31.031>part <00:27:31.265>on <00:27:31.498>the <00:27:31.731>high <00:27:31.965>top.

457
00:27:35.765 --> 00:27:39.625
<00:27:35.765>Um, <00:27:35.998>besides <00:27:36.231>that, <00:27:36.465>there <00:27:36.698>many <00:27:36.931>other <00:27:37.165>theories,

458
00:27:39.845 --> 00:27:43.665
<00:27:39.845>and <00:27:40.000>there <00:27:40.156>was <00:27:40.311>also <00:27:40.467>the <00:27:40.622>theory <00:27:40.778>that <00:27:40.933>built <00:27:41.089>actually <00:27:41.245>upon,

459
00:27:43.845 --> 00:27:45.225
<00:27:43.845>um, <00:27:44.466>Muslims <00:27:45.087>pyramid.

460
00:27:45.925 --> 00:27:48.225
<00:27:45.925>Um, <00:27:46.100>I <00:27:46.274>don't <00:27:46.450>want <00:27:46.625>to <00:27:46.800>to <00:27:46.975>go <00:27:47.149>into <00:27:47.325>detail,

461
00:27:48.285 --> 00:27:50.225
<00:27:48.285>but <00:27:48.518>I'm <00:27:48.751>really <00:27:48.985>passionate <00:27:49.218>about <00:27:49.451>this <00:27:49.685>topic,

462
00:27:50.325 --> 00:27:53.465
<00:27:50.325>so <00:27:50.465>if <00:27:50.605>you <00:27:50.745>have <00:27:50.885>questions <00:27:51.025>also <00:27:51.165>on, <00:27:51.305>please <00:27:51.445>don't <00:27:51.585>hesitate <00:27:51.725>to,

463
00:27:53.965 --> 00:27:56.705
<00:27:53.965>um, <00:27:54.120>to <00:27:54.276>also <00:27:54.431>get <00:27:54.587>back <00:27:54.742>to <00:27:54.898>it <00:27:55.053>or <00:27:55.209>let's <00:27:55.365>discuss.

464
00:27:57.965 --> 00:28:01.785
<00:27:57.965>Um, <00:27:58.120>but <00:27:58.276>another <00:27:58.431>motivation <00:27:58.587>theory <00:27:58.742>I <00:27:58.898>wanted <00:27:59.053>to <00:27:59.209>mention, <00:27:59.365>um,

465
00:28:01.795 --> 00:28:04.785
<00:28:01.795>since <00:28:02.028>is <00:28:02.261>also <00:28:02.495>like <00:28:02.728>real <00:28:02.961>fitting <00:28:03.195>for,

466
00:28:04.845 --> 00:28:08.385
<00:28:04.845>for <00:28:05.020>the <00:28:05.195>whole <00:28:05.370>agile <00:28:05.545>setup, <00:28:05.720>um, <00:28:05.895>is, <00:28:06.070>um, <00:28:06.245>uh,

467
00:28:08.435 --> 00:28:10.465
<00:28:08.435>motivation <00:28:08.784>theory <00:28:09.135>by <00:28:09.485>Daniel <00:28:09.835>Pink.

468
00:28:11.005 --> 00:28:12.665
<00:28:11.005>And <00:28:11.285>he <00:28:11.565>said <00:28:11.845>actually <00:28:12.125>two <00:28:12.405>things.

469
00:28:13.165 --> 00:28:15.345
<00:28:13.165>The <00:28:13.445>first <00:28:13.725>thing, <00:28:14.004>um, <00:28:14.284>is, <00:28:14.565>uh,

470
00:28:15.345 --> 00:28:18.585
<00:28:15.345>the <00:28:15.545>real <00:28:15.745>motivators <00:28:15.945>are <00:28:16.145>autonomy, <00:28:16.345>mastery, <00:28:16.545>and <00:28:16.745>purpose.

471
00:28:18.765 --> 00:28:22.545
<00:28:18.765>And <00:28:18.872>the <00:28:18.980>second <00:28:19.088>one <00:28:19.195>I <00:28:19.303>didn't <00:28:19.411>put <00:28:19.518>on <00:28:19.626>the, <00:28:19.734>on <00:28:19.841>the <00:28:19.949>slide <00:28:20.057>is, <00:28:20.165>um,

472
00:28:23.135 --> 00:28:27.905
<00:28:23.135>that, <00:28:23.275>because, <00:28:23.415>um, <00:28:23.555>yeah, <00:28:23.695>it <00:28:23.835>might <00:28:23.975>be <00:28:24.115>a <00:28:24.254>little <00:28:24.395>bit, <00:28:24.535>uh,

473
00:28:29.015 --> 00:28:30.555
<00:28:29.015>not <00:28:29.708>so <00:28:30.401>good,

474
00:28:30.855 --> 00:28:34.835
<00:28:30.855>but, <00:28:31.055>um, <00:28:31.255>he <00:28:31.455>said <00:28:31.655>that <00:28:31.855>larger <00:28:32.055>rewards <00:28:32.255>lead

475
00:28:34.935 --> 00:28:36.835
<00:28:34.935>to <00:28:35.401>poor <00:28:35.868>performance, <00:28:36.335>actually.

476
00:28:37.215 --> 00:28:40.595
<00:28:37.215>So <00:28:37.389>if <00:28:37.564>you <00:28:37.740>get <00:28:37.915>paid <00:28:38.090>more, <00:28:38.264>it <00:28:38.439>might <00:28:38.615>be

477
00:28:40.945 --> 00:28:42.915
<00:28:40.945>that <00:28:41.294>you're <00:28:41.645>not <00:28:41.995>that <00:28:42.345>motivated.

478
00:28:43.415 --> 00:28:47.875
<00:28:43.415>Um, <00:28:43.555>it's <00:28:43.695>based <00:28:43.835>on, <00:28:43.975>on <00:28:44.115>some <00:28:44.254>studies <00:28:44.395>it <00:28:44.534>might <00:28:44.675>differ <00:28:44.815>also.

479
00:28:47.995 --> 00:28:50.155
<00:28:47.995>I <00:28:48.150>mean, <00:28:48.306>they <00:28:48.461>also <00:28:48.617>found <00:28:48.772>out <00:28:48.928>that <00:28:49.083>with <00:28:49.239>simple <00:28:49.395>tasks,

480
00:28:50.185 --> 00:28:51.715
<00:28:50.185>it's <00:28:50.529>actually <00:28:50.873>not <00:28:51.217>the <00:28:51.562>case,

481
00:28:52.455 --> 00:28:54.675
<00:28:52.455>but <00:28:52.735>I <00:28:53.014>think <00:28:53.294>it's <00:28:53.574>rather <00:28:53.855>interesting,

482
00:28:55.115 --> 00:28:58.875
<00:28:55.115>although <00:28:55.290>nobody <00:28:55.465>would <00:28:55.640>be, <00:28:55.815>um, <00:28:55.990>yeah, <00:28:56.165>would <00:28:56.340>say <00:28:56.515>no

483
00:28:58.875 --> 00:28:59.915
<00:28:58.875>to <00:28:59.109>a <00:28:59.343>race <00:28:59.577>of <00:28:59.811>salary.

484
00:29:00.495 --> 00:29:03.755
<00:29:00.495>Uh, <00:29:00.650>it <00:29:00.806>might <00:29:00.961>be <00:29:01.117>interesting <00:29:01.272>how, <00:29:01.428>how <00:29:01.583>you <00:29:01.739>might <00:29:01.895>react

485
00:29:03.935 --> 00:29:04.955
<00:29:03.935>to, <00:29:04.241>to <00:29:04.547>a <00:29:04.852>race.

486
00:29:05.735 --> 00:29:07.035
<00:29:05.735>Um, <00:29:06.905>yeah,

487
00:29:07.095 --> 00:29:10.875
<00:29:07.095>but <00:29:07.250>coming <00:29:07.406>back <00:29:07.561>to <00:29:07.717>the <00:29:07.872>first <00:29:08.028>one, <00:29:08.183>um, <00:29:08.339>yeah, <00:29:08.495>it

488
00:29:11.435 --> 00:29:12.515
<00:29:11.435>actually <00:29:11.921>fits <00:29:12.407>perfectly.

489
00:29:12.935 --> 00:29:16.515
<00:29:12.935>Um, <00:29:13.110>you've <00:29:13.284>got <00:29:13.460>the <00:29:13.635>autonomy <00:29:13.810>in <00:29:13.985>HR <00:29:14.159>teams, <00:29:14.335>um,

490
00:29:17.065 --> 00:29:18.915
<00:29:17.065>when <00:29:17.415>they <00:29:17.765>are <00:29:18.115>really <00:29:18.465>self-managing.

491
00:29:19.265 --> 00:29:21.315
<00:29:19.265>It's <00:29:19.498>also <00:29:19.731>something <00:29:19.965>from <00:29:20.198>the <00:29:20.431>previous <00:29:20.665>slide.

492
00:29:21.375 --> 00:29:22.755
<00:29:21.375>So <00:29:21.789>they're <00:29:22.203>really <00:29:22.617>empowered.

493
00:29:22.775 --> 00:29:26.115
<00:29:22.775>You <00:29:22.902>trust <00:29:23.029>them, <00:29:23.156>they <00:29:23.284>can <00:29:23.411>do <00:29:23.538>what <00:29:23.665>they <00:29:23.793>want, <00:29:23.920>they <00:29:24.047>can <00:29:24.175>fight

494
00:29:26.415 --> 00:29:29.875
<00:29:26.415>for <00:29:26.590>whatever <00:29:26.764>they <00:29:26.940>need <00:29:27.115>to <00:29:27.290>fight <00:29:27.465>for, <00:29:27.639>um, <00:29:27.815>mastery.

495
00:29:30.025 --> 00:29:33.955
<00:29:30.025>They <00:29:30.180>can <00:29:30.336>really <00:29:30.491>become <00:29:30.647>pros <00:29:30.802>in <00:29:30.958>their <00:29:31.113>product, <00:29:31.269>in <00:29:31.425>their

496
00:29:34.575 --> 00:29:37.395
<00:29:34.575>specialization, <00:29:34.808>in <00:29:35.041>whatever <00:29:35.275>they <00:29:35.508>want <00:29:35.741>to <00:29:35.975>be,

497
00:29:38.055 --> 00:29:39.795
<00:29:38.055>um, <00:29:38.755>and <00:29:39.455>purpose.

498
00:29:40.375 --> 00:29:44.475
<00:29:40.375>So <00:29:40.841>really <00:29:41.308>achieving <00:29:41.775>something.

499
00:29:44.975 --> 00:29:48.795
<00:29:44.975>Um, <00:29:45.115>I, <00:29:45.254>I <00:29:45.395>had <00:29:45.534>yesterday <00:29:45.675>a <00:29:45.814>go <00:29:45.955>live <00:29:46.094>with <00:29:46.235>my <00:29:46.375>team,

500
00:29:49.775 --> 00:29:53.955
<00:29:49.775>and, <00:29:49.902>um, <00:29:50.029>we, <00:29:50.156>we <00:29:50.284>really <00:29:50.411>worked <00:29:50.538>on <00:29:50.665>this <00:29:50.793>project <00:29:50.920>for <00:29:51.047>one <00:29:51.175>year,

501
00:29:54.735 --> 00:29:59.195
<00:29:54.735>and <00:29:54.909>you <00:29:55.084>really <00:29:55.260>felt <00:29:55.435>the <00:29:55.610>purpose <00:29:55.784>in <00:29:55.959>the <00:29:56.135>room

502
00:29:59.825 --> 00:30:04.195
<00:29:59.825>when <00:30:00.000>everybody <00:30:00.175>was <00:30:00.350>just <00:30:00.525>happy <00:30:00.700>that, <00:30:00.875>um, <00:30:01.050>it <00:30:01.225>went

503
00:30:04.745 --> 00:30:08.115
<00:30:04.745>over <00:30:04.945>quite, <00:30:05.145>quite <00:30:05.344>well, <00:30:05.544>and <00:30:05.745>everything <00:30:05.945>was <00:30:06.145>nice

504
00:30:08.215 --> 00:30:09.355
<00:30:08.215>and <00:30:08.557>everybody <00:30:08.899>was <00:30:09.241>happy.

505
00:30:09.935 --> 00:30:12.355
<00:30:09.935>So <00:30:10.135>it <00:30:10.335>was <00:30:10.534>really <00:30:10.735>a <00:30:10.935>smooth <00:30:11.135>go <00:30:11.335>life,

506
00:30:12.575 --> 00:30:14.595
<00:30:12.575>and <00:30:12.808>you <00:30:13.041>don't <00:30:13.275>have <00:30:13.508>always <00:30:13.741>the <00:30:13.975>chance,

507
00:30:14.695 --> 00:30:17.955
<00:30:14.695>but <00:30:14.975>especially <00:30:15.254>with <00:30:15.534>those, <00:30:15.814>uh, <00:30:16.095>situations,

508
00:30:17.975 --> 00:30:21.965
<00:30:17.975>you <00:30:18.208>really <00:30:18.441>feel <00:30:18.675>you're <00:30:18.908>doing <00:30:19.141>it, <00:30:19.375>uh,

509
00:30:22.075 --> 00:30:24.965
<00:30:22.075>because <00:30:22.355>it, <00:30:22.635>it <00:30:22.915>makes <00:30:23.195>sense <00:30:23.475>and,

510
00:30:25.145 --> 00:30:29.205
<00:30:25.145>and <00:30:25.345>you're <00:30:25.545>really, <00:30:25.745>um, <00:30:25.945>achieving <00:30:26.145>something <00:30:26.345>with <00:30:26.545>it

511
00:30:29.825 --> 00:30:31.845
<00:30:29.825>for <00:30:30.025>yourself <00:30:30.225>as <00:30:30.425>well <00:30:30.625>as <00:30:30.825>for <00:30:31.025>the <00:30:31.225>customer.

512
00:30:33.505 --> 00:30:37.805
<00:30:33.505>Um, <00:30:33.785>yeah, <00:30:34.065>uh, <00:30:34.345>as <00:30:34.625>in <00:30:34.905>the

513
00:30:38.685 --> 00:30:42.205
<00:30:38.685>introduction <00:30:38.918>already <00:30:39.151>mentioned, <00:30:39.385>um, <00:30:39.618>I <00:30:39.851>also <00:30:40.085>wanted

514
00:30:42.265 --> 00:30:45.885
<00:30:42.265>to <00:30:42.440>focus <00:30:42.615>a <00:30:42.790>little <00:30:42.965>bit <00:30:43.140>on <00:30:43.315>females, <00:30:43.490>female <00:30:43.665>developers

515
00:30:46.145 --> 00:30:48.125
<00:30:46.145>and <00:30:46.495>the <00:30:46.845>HR <00:30:47.195>mindset, <00:30:47.545>not

516
00:30:48.125 --> 00:30:53.045
<00:30:48.125>because, <00:30:48.325>um, <00:30:48.525>I <00:30:48.725>think, <00:30:48.925>um, <00:30:49.125>that <00:30:49.325>it's, <00:30:49.525>I,

517
00:30:53.125 --> 00:30:57.845
<00:30:53.125>I, <00:30:53.252>I <00:30:53.379>think, <00:30:53.506>um, <00:30:53.634>for <00:30:53.761>all <00:30:53.888>these <00:30:54.015>things <00:30:54.143>I'm <00:30:54.270>going <00:30:54.397>to <00:30:54.525>mention

518
00:30:58.465 --> 00:31:01.565
<00:30:58.465>fit <00:30:58.639>actually <00:30:58.814>for <00:30:58.990>everyone, <00:30:59.165>so <00:30:59.340>everybody <00:30:59.514>can <00:30:59.689>see <00:30:59.865>them,

519
00:31:01.825 --> 00:31:06.245
<00:31:01.825>see <00:31:01.980>himself <00:31:02.136>or <00:31:02.291>herself <00:31:02.447>in <00:31:02.602>those, <00:31:02.758>um, <00:31:02.913>in <00:31:03.069>those, <00:31:03.225>uh,

520
00:31:07.445 --> 00:31:11.365
<00:31:07.445>mindsets, <00:31:07.600>in <00:31:07.756>those <00:31:07.911>rules, <00:31:08.067>um, <00:31:08.222>with <00:31:08.378>see <00:31:08.533>themself <00:31:08.689>in <00:31:08.845>it.

521
00:31:11.485 --> 00:31:14.325
<00:31:11.485>I <00:31:11.625>mean, <00:31:11.764>if <00:31:11.905>it <00:31:12.044>speaks <00:31:12.185>to <00:31:12.324>you, <00:31:12.465>if <00:31:12.604>you <00:31:12.745>think, <00:31:12.885>yeah,

522
00:31:14.835 --> 00:31:18.285
<00:31:14.835>that <00:31:15.010>would <00:31:15.185>be <00:31:15.360>a <00:31:15.535>real <00:31:15.710>good <00:31:15.885>thing <00:31:16.060>for <00:31:16.235>me.

523
00:31:18.705 --> 00:31:23.045
<00:31:18.705>So <00:31:18.860>that's <00:31:19.016>what <00:31:19.171>I <00:31:19.327>think <00:31:19.482>is <00:31:19.638>a <00:31:19.793>good <00:31:19.949>setup <00:31:20.105>for,

524
00:31:23.665 --> 00:31:27.685
<00:31:23.665>for <00:31:23.805>a, <00:31:23.945>um, <00:31:24.085>a <00:31:24.225>company <00:31:24.365>or, <00:31:24.504>uh, <00:31:24.645>a <00:31:24.784>team <00:31:24.925>or <00:31:25.065>whatever.

525
00:31:28.385 --> 00:31:32.765
<00:31:28.385>Um, <00:31:28.560>but <00:31:28.735>I, <00:31:28.910>I, <00:31:29.085>I <00:31:29.260>think <00:31:29.435>that <00:31:29.610>females <00:31:29.785>often

526
00:31:34.035 --> 00:31:35.525
<00:31:34.035>have <00:31:34.482>some <00:31:34.929>special <00:31:35.376>needs,

527
00:31:35.825 --> 00:31:39.525
<00:31:35.825>and <00:31:36.025>maybe <00:31:36.225>they, <00:31:36.425>of <00:31:36.625>course, <00:31:36.825>it's <00:31:37.025>a <00:31:37.225>spectrum,

528
00:31:39.905 --> 00:31:44.245
<00:31:39.905>but <00:31:40.138>the <00:31:40.371>main <00:31:40.605>part <00:31:40.838>might <00:31:41.071>refer <00:31:41.305>to

529
00:31:45.085 --> 00:31:48.845
<00:31:45.085>specific <00:31:45.260>working <00:31:45.435>situations <00:31:45.610>that <00:31:45.785>might <00:31:45.960>just <00:31:46.135>fit <00:31:46.310>them <00:31:46.485>better.

530
00:31:49.585 --> 00:31:53.925
<00:31:49.585>And <00:31:49.785>especially <00:31:49.985>for <00:31:50.185>those <00:31:50.385>cases, <00:31:50.585>there <00:31:50.785>are, <00:31:50.985>uh,

531
00:31:54.115 --> 00:31:58.485
<00:31:54.115>various, <00:31:54.465>um, <00:31:54.815>reasons, <00:31:55.165>um, <00:31:55.515>why,

532
00:32:00.035 --> 00:32:03.455
<00:32:00.035>why <00:32:00.268>agility <00:32:00.501>really <00:32:00.735>opens <00:32:00.968>up <00:32:01.201>the <00:32:01.435>possibilities.

533
00:32:04.355 --> 00:32:08.175
<00:32:04.355>And <00:32:04.471>I <00:32:04.588>think <00:32:04.705>it's <00:32:04.821>good <00:32:04.938>to <00:32:05.055>know <00:32:05.171>it's <00:32:05.288>not <00:32:05.405>only <00:32:05.521>good <00:32:05.638>to <00:32:05.755>know

534
00:32:08.195 --> 00:32:10.415
<00:32:08.195>for <00:32:08.370>females, <00:32:08.544>but <00:32:08.720>it's <00:32:08.895>good <00:32:09.070>to <00:32:09.245>know <00:32:09.419>for <00:32:09.595>everybody,

535
00:32:10.795 --> 00:32:13.015
<00:32:10.795>but <00:32:11.261>especially <00:32:11.728>also <00:32:12.195>females.

536
00:32:13.595 --> 00:32:16.535
<00:32:13.595>And <00:32:13.770>if <00:32:13.945>we <00:32:14.120>have <00:32:14.295>the <00:32:14.470>opportunity <00:32:14.645>today <00:32:14.820>to <00:32:14.995>kind

537
00:32:16.535 --> 00:32:20.895
<00:32:16.535>of <00:32:16.710>celebrate <00:32:16.885>our, <00:32:17.060>our <00:32:17.235>awesomeness <00:32:17.410>a <00:32:17.585>little <00:32:17.760>bit, <00:32:17.935>um,

538
00:32:21.335 --> 00:32:25.175
<00:32:21.335>I <00:32:21.462>think <00:32:21.589>it's <00:32:21.716>also <00:32:21.844>a <00:32:21.971>nice <00:32:22.098>fit <00:32:22.225>to <00:32:22.353>just, <00:32:22.480>um, <00:32:22.607>also, <00:32:22.735>uh,

539
00:32:25.175 --> 00:32:28.975
<00:32:25.175>talk <00:32:25.375>a <00:32:25.575>little <00:32:25.774>bit <00:32:25.975>about <00:32:26.175>it, <00:32:26.375>um, <00:32:26.575>yeah,

540
00:32:29.155 --> 00:32:30.295
<00:32:29.155>to <00:32:29.497>get <00:32:29.839>it <00:32:30.181>going.

541
00:32:30.525 --> 00:32:33.695
<00:32:30.525>Just <00:32:30.700>a <00:32:30.875>little <00:32:31.050>recap <00:32:31.225>on <00:32:31.400>the <00:32:31.575>question, <00:32:31.750>why <00:32:31.925>diversity

542
00:32:34.155 --> 00:32:36.615
<00:32:34.155>or <00:32:34.504>females, <00:32:34.855>males, <00:32:35.205>whatever, <00:32:35.555>um,

543
00:32:37.115 --> 00:32:39.015
<00:32:37.115>in <00:32:37.465>software <00:32:37.815>development <00:32:38.165>makes <00:32:38.515>sense.

544
00:32:39.865 --> 00:32:42.205
<00:32:39.865>Um, <00:32:40.331>it's <00:32:40.798>the <00:32:41.265>opportunities.

545
00:32:42.825 --> 00:32:46.685
<00:32:42.825>So <00:32:42.980>it's <00:32:43.136>the <00:32:43.291>ideas <00:32:43.447>you <00:32:43.602>get <00:32:43.758>out <00:32:43.913>of <00:32:44.069>a <00:32:44.225>team

546
00:32:46.795 --> 00:32:50.285
<00:32:46.795>with <00:32:47.028>many <00:32:47.261>different <00:32:47.495>people's, <00:32:47.728>people <00:32:47.961>in <00:32:48.195>it.

547
00:32:51.065 --> 00:32:54.005
<00:32:51.065>Um, <00:32:51.415>you <00:32:51.765>just <00:32:52.115>spread, <00:32:52.465>um,

548
00:32:54.665 --> 00:32:56.645
<00:32:54.665>the <00:32:54.945>content <00:32:55.225>you <00:32:55.504>can <00:32:55.784>get <00:32:56.065>actually.

549
00:32:57.025 --> 00:33:00.965
<00:32:57.025>So <00:32:57.258>everybody <00:32:57.491>has <00:32:57.725>different <00:32:57.958>experiences <00:32:58.191>in, <00:32:58.425>uh,

550
00:33:00.975 --> 00:33:03.525
<00:33:00.975>their <00:33:01.208>private <00:33:01.441>life, <00:33:01.675>in <00:33:01.908>their <00:33:02.141>work <00:33:02.375>environment.

551
00:33:03.555 --> 00:33:06.405
<00:33:03.555>Everybody <00:33:03.788>has <00:33:04.021>different <00:33:04.255>views <00:33:04.488>on <00:33:04.721>what's <00:33:04.955>important,

552
00:33:06.505 --> 00:33:09.045
<00:33:06.505>what's <00:33:06.785>not <00:33:07.065>important, <00:33:07.345>and <00:33:07.625>the <00:33:07.905>sense

553
00:33:09.545 --> 00:33:11.525
<00:33:09.545>or <00:33:09.778>the <00:33:10.011>essential <00:33:10.245>thing <00:33:10.478>out <00:33:10.711>of <00:33:10.945>it

554
00:33:11.525 --> 00:33:14.845
<00:33:11.525>that <00:33:11.725>actually <00:33:11.925>connects <00:33:12.125>everything <00:33:12.325>is <00:33:12.525>that, <00:33:12.725>for <00:33:12.925>example,

555
00:33:15.025 --> 00:33:19.325
<00:33:15.025>for <00:33:15.180>us, <00:33:15.336>everybody <00:33:15.491>actually <00:33:15.647>should <00:33:15.802>be <00:33:15.958>able <00:33:16.113>to <00:33:16.269>use <00:33:16.425>our,

556
00:33:19.825 --> 00:33:20.885
<00:33:19.825>uh, <00:33:20.779>software.

557
00:33:21.625 --> 00:33:23.405
<00:33:21.625>We <00:33:21.858>don't <00:33:22.091>want <00:33:22.325>to <00:33:22.558>cut <00:33:22.791>somebody <00:33:23.025>out.

558
00:33:23.545 --> 00:33:27.685
<00:33:23.545>We <00:33:23.700>don't <00:33:23.856>want <00:33:24.011>to <00:33:24.167>oversee <00:33:24.322>something <00:33:24.478>or <00:33:24.633>forget <00:33:24.789>about <00:33:24.945>something

559
00:33:27.785 --> 00:33:30.445
<00:33:27.785>or <00:33:28.065>do <00:33:28.345>some <00:33:28.625>harm <00:33:28.905>or <00:33:29.185>whatever.

560
00:33:30.825 --> 00:33:34.925
<00:33:30.825>We <00:33:30.952>really <00:33:31.079>want <00:33:31.206>to <00:33:31.334>support <00:33:31.461>and <00:33:31.588>be <00:33:31.715>the <00:33:31.843>best <00:33:31.970>fit <00:33:32.097>for <00:33:32.225>everybody.

561
00:33:35.505 --> 00:33:38.265
<00:33:35.505>And <00:33:35.971>being <00:33:36.438>diverse, <00:33:36.905>um,

562
00:33:38.565 --> 00:33:40.945
<00:33:38.565>accept <00:33:39.031>accepting <00:33:39.498>all <00:33:39.965>kinds

563
00:33:40.945 --> 00:33:44.105
<00:33:40.945>of <00:33:41.100>people <00:33:41.256>in <00:33:41.411>a <00:33:41.567>software <00:33:41.722>development <00:33:41.878>team <00:33:42.033>just <00:33:42.189>opens <00:33:42.345>up

564
00:33:44.165 --> 00:33:45.225
<00:33:44.165>so <00:33:44.641>many <00:33:45.119>possibilities

565
00:33:45.845 --> 00:33:48.185
<00:33:45.845>and <00:33:46.045>so <00:33:46.245>many <00:33:46.445>doors <00:33:46.645>to <00:33:46.845>really <00:33:47.045>address <00:33:47.245>them.

566
00:33:49.085 --> 00:33:53.955
<00:33:49.085>Um, <00:33:49.285>besides <00:33:49.485>that, <00:33:49.685>um, <00:33:49.885>we <00:33:50.085>are <00:33:50.285>also <00:33:50.485>confronted

567
00:33:53.985 --> 00:33:56.515
<00:33:53.985>with <00:33:54.334>a <00:33:54.685>situation <00:33:55.034>where, <00:33:55.385>yeah,

568
00:33:56.565 --> 00:34:00.115
<00:33:56.565>where <00:33:56.765>there's <00:33:56.965>really <00:33:57.165>the <00:33:57.365>demand <00:33:57.565>for <00:33:57.765>software <00:33:57.965>developers,

569
00:34:00.335 --> 00:34:02.675
<00:34:00.335>for <00:34:00.801>awesome <00:34:01.268>software <00:34:01.735>developers,

570
00:34:03.575 --> 00:34:07.635
<00:34:03.575>and <00:34:03.775>yeah, <00:34:03.975>it's <00:34:04.175>also <00:34:04.375>a <00:34:04.575>question <00:34:04.775>of <00:34:04.975>possibilities.

571
00:34:07.855 --> 00:34:09.835
<00:34:07.855>So <00:34:08.088>how <00:34:08.321>many <00:34:08.554>people <00:34:08.788>can <00:34:09.021>we <00:34:09.255>reach?

572
00:34:10.535 --> 00:34:15.155
<00:34:10.534>Um, <00:34:10.674>how <00:34:10.815>many <00:34:10.955>people <00:34:11.094>are <00:34:11.234>able <00:34:11.375>to <00:34:11.514>work <00:34:11.654>with, <00:34:11.795>with <00:34:11.935>us?

573
00:34:15.595 --> 00:34:19.355
<00:34:15.594>I <00:34:15.734>mean, <00:34:15.875>yeah, <00:34:16.014>with, <00:34:16.154>with <00:34:16.294>software <00:34:16.435>development, <00:34:16.574>it <00:34:16.714>was <00:34:16.855>not <00:34:16.995>a,

574
00:34:19.515 --> 00:34:23.595
<00:34:19.514>a <00:34:19.670>huge <00:34:19.826>case, <00:34:19.981>but, <00:34:20.137>um, <00:34:20.292>especially <00:34:20.448>when <00:34:20.603>the <00:34:20.759>whole, <00:34:20.915>um,

575
00:34:23.705 --> 00:34:28.435
<00:34:23.705>home <00:34:23.844>office, <00:34:23.985>uh, <00:34:24.125>situation <00:34:24.264>opened <00:34:24.404>up, <00:34:24.545>um, <00:34:24.685>it <00:34:24.824>gave <00:34:24.965>a <00:34:25.105>lot

576
00:34:28.435 --> 00:34:31.155
<00:34:28.435>of <00:34:28.715>opportunities, <00:34:28.995>a <00:34:29.275>lot <00:34:29.554>of <00:34:29.835>ways

577
00:34:31.295 --> 00:34:33.395
<00:34:31.295>and <00:34:31.645>possibilities <00:34:31.995>to <00:34:32.345>involve <00:34:32.695>people,

578
00:34:33.775 --> 00:34:35.115
<00:34:33.775>and <00:34:34.177>that's <00:34:34.578>actually <00:34:34.980>awesome.

579
00:34:36.255 --> 00:34:39.955
<00:34:36.255>So, <00:34:36.488>um, <00:34:36.721>I <00:34:36.955>think <00:34:37.188>it's <00:34:37.421>pretty <00:34:37.655>clear

580
00:34:40.025 --> 00:34:42.275
<00:34:40.025>that <00:34:40.375>it <00:34:40.725>totally <00:34:41.075>makes <00:34:41.425>sense

581
00:34:42.295 --> 00:34:45.595
<00:34:42.295>and <00:34:42.495>is <00:34:42.695>really <00:34:42.895>appreciable <00:34:43.095>if, <00:34:43.295>um, <00:34:43.495>more <00:34:43.695>women

582
00:34:46.135 --> 00:34:49.755
<00:34:46.135>or <00:34:46.290>if, <00:34:46.446>if <00:34:46.601>the <00:34:46.757>team <00:34:46.912>is <00:34:47.068>as <00:34:47.223>diverse <00:34:47.379>as <00:34:47.535>possible.

583
00:34:51.215 --> 00:34:52.835
<00:34:51.215>Um, <00:34:52.615>yeah.

584
00:34:53.265 --> 00:34:57.115
<00:34:53.264>Another <00:34:53.420>thing <00:34:53.576>I <00:34:53.731>I <00:34:53.887>also <00:34:54.042>wanted <00:34:54.198>to, <00:34:54.353>to <00:34:54.509>scratch, <00:34:54.665>uh,

585
00:34:57.175 --> 00:35:00.955
<00:34:57.175>at <00:34:57.315>least <00:34:57.455>on <00:34:57.595>the <00:34:57.735>surface <00:34:57.875>is <00:34:58.015>what <00:34:58.155>could <00:34:58.295>be <00:34:58.435>possible <00:34:58.575>reasons,

586
00:35:01.415 --> 00:35:04.795
<00:35:01.415>um, <00:35:01.590>why <00:35:01.765>women <00:35:01.940>don't, <00:35:02.115>uh, <00:35:02.290>prefer <00:35:02.465>to <00:35:02.640>write <00:35:02.815>code?

587
00:35:05.155 --> 00:35:09.115
<00:35:05.155>I <00:35:05.295>mean, <00:35:05.435>there <00:35:05.575>is <00:35:05.715>also, <00:35:05.855>there <00:35:05.995>are <00:35:06.135>thousands <00:35:06.275>of <00:35:06.415>reasons, <00:35:06.555>um,

588
00:35:09.695 --> 00:35:12.355
<00:35:09.695>as <00:35:09.835>well <00:35:09.975>as <00:35:10.115>there <00:35:10.255>are <00:35:10.395>thousands <00:35:10.535>of <00:35:10.675>reasons <00:35:10.815>why <00:35:10.955>somebody <00:35:11.095>else,

589
00:35:12.575 --> 00:35:16.195
<00:35:12.575>uh, <00:35:12.750>doesn't <00:35:12.924>want <00:35:13.100>to, <00:35:13.274>to <00:35:13.450>be <00:35:13.625>a <00:35:13.799>software <00:35:13.975>developer.

590
00:35:16.655 --> 00:35:19.975
<00:35:16.655>Um, <00:35:16.935>I <00:35:17.215>want <00:35:17.495>to <00:35:17.775>mention <00:35:18.055>them

591
00:35:19.975 --> 00:35:23.015
<00:35:19.975>because <00:35:20.174>I <00:35:20.375>got <00:35:20.575>the <00:35:20.775>feeling <00:35:20.975>that, <00:35:21.174>um, <00:35:21.375>that

592
00:35:23.835 --> 00:35:26.135
<00:35:23.835>it <00:35:24.185>might <00:35:24.535>be <00:35:24.885>misconception <00:35:25.235>sometimes

593
00:35:26.275 --> 00:35:28.375
<00:35:26.275>or <00:35:26.555>it, <00:35:26.835>it <00:35:27.115>might <00:35:27.395>have <00:35:27.675>changed.

594
00:35:28.875 --> 00:35:32.215
<00:35:28.875>Um, <00:35:29.030>and <00:35:29.186>that's <00:35:29.341>the <00:35:29.497>reason <00:35:29.652>why <00:35:29.808>I <00:35:29.963>just <00:35:30.119>want <00:35:30.275>to,

595
00:35:32.395 --> 00:35:35.255
<00:35:32.395>to <00:35:32.628>just <00:35:32.861>quickly <00:35:33.095>get <00:35:33.328>OEMs <00:35:33.561>over <00:35:33.795>them.

596
00:35:35.675 --> 00:35:39.845
<00:35:35.675>Um, <00:35:35.875>so <00:35:36.075>it, <00:35:36.275>it's, <00:35:36.475>it's <00:35:36.675>kind <00:35:36.875>of, <00:35:37.075>um,

597
00:35:40.305 --> 00:35:43.245
<00:35:40.305>the <00:35:40.538>bubble <00:35:40.771>in <00:35:41.004>our <00:35:41.238>graph <00:35:41.471>where, <00:35:41.705>uh,

598
00:35:43.465 --> 00:35:44.805
<00:35:43.465>the <00:35:43.867>people <00:35:44.269>are <00:35:44.671>widespread,

599
00:35:44.905 --> 00:35:46.525
<00:35:44.905>but <00:35:45.105>in <00:35:45.305>the <00:35:45.505>middle <00:35:45.705>there <00:35:45.905>is <00:35:46.105>this <00:35:46.305>bubble.

600
00:35:47.145 --> 00:35:51.885
<00:35:47.145>And, <00:35:47.320>um, <00:35:47.495>in <00:35:47.670>general, <00:35:47.845>women <00:35:48.020>prefer <00:35:48.195>collaborative, <00:35:48.370>uh, <00:35:48.545>chops.

601
00:35:52.465 --> 00:35:56.925
<00:35:52.465>Um, <00:35:52.605>is <00:35:52.745>also <00:35:52.885>the <00:35:53.025>case <00:35:53.165>for <00:35:53.305>me <00:35:53.445>is <00:35:53.585>not <00:35:53.725>the <00:35:53.865>case

602
00:35:56.985 --> 00:35:59.485
<00:35:56.985>for <00:35:57.160>everybody <00:35:57.335>I <00:35:57.510>know, <00:35:57.685>or <00:35:57.860>every <00:35:58.035>woman <00:35:58.210>I <00:35:58.385>know,

603
00:35:59.945 --> 00:36:04.285
<00:35:59.945>but <00:36:00.225>I <00:36:00.505>would <00:36:00.785>say <00:36:01.065>more <00:36:01.345>communicative.

604
00:36:04.565 --> 00:36:08.205
<00:36:04.565>I <00:36:04.720>have <00:36:04.876>more <00:36:05.031>communicative <00:36:05.187>women <00:36:05.342>than <00:36:05.498>men <00:36:05.653>in <00:36:05.809>my <00:36:05.965>surroundings.

605
00:36:08.785 --> 00:36:11.785
<00:36:08.785>Um, <00:36:09.065>it <00:36:09.345>is <00:36:09.625>also <00:36:09.904>the <00:36:10.185>case

606
00:36:11.785 --> 00:36:16.625
<00:36:11.785>that <00:36:11.940>maybe <00:36:12.096>in <00:36:12.251>previous <00:36:12.407>time <00:36:12.562>it <00:36:12.718>was <00:36:12.873>possible <00:36:13.029>to, <00:36:13.185>uh,

607
00:36:16.725 --> 00:36:19.065
<00:36:16.725>to <00:36:17.005>do <00:36:17.285>software <00:36:17.565>development <00:36:17.845>in <00:36:18.125>isolation.

608
00:36:19.925 --> 00:36:24.545
<00:36:19.925>But <00:36:20.065>I <00:36:20.205>think, <00:36:20.345>at <00:36:20.485>least <00:36:20.625>for <00:36:20.765>now, <00:36:20.905>how <00:36:21.045>I <00:36:21.185>experienced <00:36:21.325>it,

609
00:36:24.745 --> 00:36:28.625
<00:36:24.745>I <00:36:24.884>mean, <00:36:25.025>um, <00:36:25.165>I <00:36:25.305>think <00:36:25.444>I, <00:36:25.585>I <00:36:25.725>didn't <00:36:25.865>even <00:36:26.005>experience <00:36:26.145>it.

610
00:36:28.625 --> 00:36:31.305
<00:36:28.625>Other, <00:36:28.752>I'm <00:36:28.879>a <00:36:29.006>little <00:36:29.134>bit, <00:36:29.261>maybe <00:36:29.388>I'm <00:36:29.515>too <00:36:29.643>young <00:36:29.770>for <00:36:29.897>that <00:36:30.025>also,

611
00:36:31.565 --> 00:36:36.065
<00:36:31.565>but <00:36:31.798>software <00:36:32.031>development <00:36:32.265>is, <00:36:32.498>in <00:36:32.731>my <00:36:32.965>opinion,

612
00:36:36.155 --> 00:36:39.305
<00:36:36.155>especially <00:36:36.435>with <00:36:36.715>the <00:36:36.995>agility <00:36:37.275>background, <00:36:37.555>a

613
00:36:39.855 --> 00:36:41.625
<00:36:39.855>very <00:36:40.555>communicative <00:36:41.255>job.

614
00:36:42.125 --> 00:36:45.825
<00:36:42.125>So, <00:36:42.325>um, <00:36:42.525>you <00:36:42.725>really <00:36:42.925>have <00:36:43.125>to <00:36:43.325>be <00:36:43.525>empathetic.

615
00:36:46.125 --> 00:36:49.265
<00:36:46.125>You <00:36:46.265>really <00:36:46.405>have <00:36:46.545>to <00:36:46.685>get <00:36:46.825>into <00:36:46.965>the <00:36:47.105>people <00:36:47.245>really <00:36:47.385>ask <00:36:47.525>questions,

616
00:36:49.885 --> 00:36:51.585
<00:36:49.885>um, <00:36:50.351>support <00:36:50.818>them <00:36:51.285>and,

617
00:36:51.925 --> 00:36:55.425
<00:36:51.925>and <00:36:52.100>yeah, <00:36:52.275>really <00:36:52.450>want <00:36:52.625>to, <00:36:52.800>to <00:36:52.975>get <00:36:53.150>things <00:36:53.325>working.

618
00:36:55.805 --> 00:37:00.415
<00:36:55.805>So, <00:36:56.004>um, <00:36:56.205>this, <00:36:56.404>this <00:36:56.605>might <00:36:56.805>be <00:36:57.004>really, <00:36:57.205>uh,

619
00:37:00.715 --> 00:37:03.615
<00:37:00.715>really, <00:37:00.995>uh, <00:37:01.275>affected <00:37:01.555>and <00:37:01.835>totally <00:37:02.115>changed.

620
00:37:04.645 --> 00:37:07.745
<00:37:04.645>Um, <00:37:04.845>another <00:37:05.045>factor <00:37:05.245>why, <00:37:05.445>why <00:37:05.645>women <00:37:05.845>might <00:37:06.045>be,

621
00:37:09.075 --> 00:37:12.465
<00:37:09.075>might <00:37:09.230>think <00:37:09.386>it <00:37:09.541>won't <00:37:09.697>be <00:37:09.852>the, <00:37:10.008>uh, <00:37:10.163>the <00:37:10.319>best <00:37:10.475>fit

622
00:37:12.485 --> 00:37:14.385
<00:37:12.485>for <00:37:12.835>it <00:37:13.185>is <00:37:13.535>actually <00:37:13.885>flexibility.

623
00:37:15.605 --> 00:37:20.105
<00:37:15.605>So, <00:37:15.955>um, <00:37:16.305>flexibility <00:37:16.655>is <00:37:17.005>actually,

624
00:37:20.205 --> 00:37:23.025
<00:37:20.205>or <00:37:20.438>some <00:37:20.671>studies <00:37:20.904>say, <00:37:21.138>uh, <00:37:21.371>that, <00:37:21.605>uh,

625
00:37:23.025 --> 00:37:26.985
<00:37:23.025>flexibility <00:37:23.180>is <00:37:23.336>way <00:37:23.491>more <00:37:23.647>important <00:37:23.802>for <00:37:23.958>women <00:37:24.113>than <00:37:24.269>for <00:37:24.425>men.

626
00:37:27.385 --> 00:37:28.825
<00:37:27.385>I <00:37:27.709>think <00:37:28.033>that <00:37:28.357>also <00:37:28.681>changed.

627
00:37:29.185 --> 00:37:31.985
<00:37:29.185>I <00:37:29.360>think <00:37:29.535>it's, <00:37:29.710>it's <00:37:29.884>fading <00:37:30.060>out <00:37:30.235>or <00:37:30.410>becoming <00:37:30.585>equal,

628
00:37:32.525 --> 00:37:37.025
<00:37:32.525>but, <00:37:32.665>um, <00:37:32.805>also <00:37:32.945>for <00:37:33.085>that, <00:37:33.225>it, <00:37:33.365>it's, <00:37:33.505>um, <00:37:33.645>it's <00:37:33.785>the <00:37:33.925>case

629
00:37:37.055 --> 00:37:40.545
<00:37:37.055>that <00:37:37.210>it's <00:37:37.366>something <00:37:37.521>that <00:37:37.677>that <00:37:37.832>can <00:37:37.988>be <00:37:38.143>covered <00:37:38.299>by <00:37:38.455>agility

630
00:37:41.005 --> 00:37:45.585
<00:37:41.005>and <00:37:41.132>is <00:37:41.259>a <00:37:41.386>total <00:37:41.514>factor <00:37:41.641>that, <00:37:41.768>uh, <00:37:41.895>we <00:37:42.023>want <00:37:42.150>to, <00:37:42.277>to, <00:37:42.405>um,

631
00:37:46.055 --> 00:37:49.025
<00:37:46.055>support, <00:37:46.521>uh, <00:37:46.988>personal <00:37:47.455>flexibility,

632
00:37:49.205 --> 00:37:50.825
<00:37:49.205>job <00:37:49.555>flexibility, <00:37:49.904>and <00:37:50.255>so <00:37:50.605>on.

633
00:37:51.165 --> 00:37:54.065
<00:37:51.165>Um, <00:37:51.320>and <00:37:51.476>the <00:37:51.631>third <00:37:51.787>one <00:37:51.942>I <00:37:52.098>wanted <00:37:52.253>to <00:37:52.409>mention <00:37:52.565>is,

634
00:37:54.325 --> 00:37:58.025
<00:37:54.325>and <00:37:54.500>it's <00:37:54.674>also <00:37:54.850>based <00:37:55.024>on, <00:37:55.200>on <00:37:55.375>everyone's <00:37:55.549>personal, <00:37:55.725>um,

635
00:37:58.655 --> 00:38:02.745
<00:37:58.655>experiences <00:37:58.830>actually, <00:37:59.005>that <00:37:59.180>sometimes <00:37:59.355>it <00:37:59.530>might <00:37:59.705>be <00:37:59.880>that, <00:38:00.055>uh,

636
00:38:02.755 --> 00:38:06.705
<00:38:02.755>women, <00:38:02.988>uh, <00:38:03.221>were <00:38:03.455>differently <00:38:03.688>socialized <00:38:03.921>than <00:38:04.155>men.

637
00:38:07.205 --> 00:38:11.475
<00:38:07.205>So, <00:38:07.404>um, <00:38:07.605>we <00:38:07.805>have <00:38:08.005>this <00:38:08.205>evolution <00:38:08.404>behind <00:38:08.605>us

638
00:38:11.655 --> 00:38:16.355
<00:38:11.655>and <00:38:11.810>there <00:38:11.966>were <00:38:12.121>some <00:38:12.277>behavioral, <00:38:12.432>uh, <00:38:12.588>changes <00:38:12.743>that <00:38:12.899>just, <00:38:13.055>um,

639
00:38:16.585 --> 00:38:17.715
<00:38:16.585>changed <00:38:17.602>recently.

640
00:38:18.335 --> 00:38:22.625
<00:38:18.335>So <00:38:18.535>it <00:38:18.735>might <00:38:18.935>be <00:38:19.135>that, <00:38:19.335>um, <00:38:19.535>that <00:38:19.735>actually

641
00:38:24.015 --> 00:38:27.185
<00:38:24.015>also <00:38:24.214>already <00:38:24.415>with <00:38:24.615>some <00:38:24.815>awareness <00:38:25.015>on <00:38:25.214>how <00:38:25.415>to,

642
00:38:28.205 --> 00:38:31.025
<00:38:28.205>how <00:38:28.438>you <00:38:28.671>interact <00:38:28.904>with, <00:38:29.138>with <00:38:29.371>both <00:38:29.605>genders

643
00:38:31.025 --> 00:38:35.925
<00:38:31.025>or <00:38:31.165>all <00:38:31.305>the <00:38:31.445>genders, <00:38:31.585>um, <00:38:31.725>you, <00:38:31.865>you <00:38:32.005>might <00:38:32.145>have <00:38:32.285>the <00:38:32.425>situation

644
00:38:35.925 --> 00:38:38.365
<00:38:35.925>that <00:38:36.205>they, <00:38:36.485>um, <00:38:36.765>have <00:38:37.045>some <00:38:37.325>tendencies

645
00:38:38.365 --> 00:38:41.365
<00:38:38.365>because <00:38:38.598>of <00:38:38.831>the, <00:38:39.064>so <00:38:39.298>socialization <00:38:39.531>and <00:38:39.765>families.

646
00:38:43.145 --> 00:38:47.245
<00:38:43.145>Um, <00:38:43.320>yeah, <00:38:43.495>so <00:38:43.670>this <00:38:43.845>is <00:38:44.020>the <00:38:44.195>very <00:38:44.370>last <00:38:44.545>part,

647
00:38:47.505 --> 00:38:49.565
<00:38:47.505>and <00:38:47.705>it's <00:38:47.905>also <00:38:48.105>one <00:38:48.305>of <00:38:48.505>my <00:38:48.705>favorite <00:38:48.905>ones

648
00:38:49.565 --> 00:38:54.045
<00:38:49.565>because, <00:38:49.740>um, <00:38:49.915>it <00:38:50.090>really <00:38:50.265>sums <00:38:50.440>up <00:38:50.615>nicely <00:38:50.790>why, <00:38:50.965>um,

649
00:38:54.585 --> 00:38:59.405
<00:38:54.585>by <00:38:54.760>now <00:38:54.935>females <00:38:55.110>could <00:38:55.285>be <00:38:55.460>really, <00:38:55.635>um, <00:38:55.810>um, <00:38:55.985>yeah,

650
00:38:59.635 --> 00:39:02.525
<00:38:59.635>touched <00:38:59.985>by, <00:39:00.335>by <00:39:00.685>agile <00:39:01.035>development

651
00:39:02.585 --> 00:39:04.885
<00:39:02.585>or <00:39:02.935>even <00:39:03.285>be <00:39:03.635>better <00:39:03.985>supported.

652
00:39:05.065 --> 00:39:08.725
<00:39:05.065>Um, <00:39:05.265>and <00:39:05.465>yeah, <00:39:05.665>it's <00:39:05.865>actually <00:39:06.065>not <00:39:06.265>only <00:39:06.465>female,

653
00:39:09.225 --> 00:39:12.565
<00:39:09.225>but <00:39:09.505>also <00:39:09.785>diversity <00:39:10.065>that <00:39:10.345>is <00:39:10.625>essential.

654
00:39:12.905 --> 00:39:16.125
<00:39:12.905>Uh, <00:39:13.032>this <00:39:13.159>is <00:39:13.286>why <00:39:13.414>this <00:39:13.541>is <00:39:13.668>the <00:39:13.795>first, <00:39:13.923>um, <00:39:14.050>the <00:39:14.177>first <00:39:14.305>reason

655
00:39:16.345 --> 00:39:18.485
<00:39:16.345>or <00:39:16.625>the <00:39:16.904>first, <00:39:17.185>um, <00:39:17.464>huge <00:39:17.745>advantage.

656
00:39:19.465 --> 00:39:24.415
<00:39:19.465>Um, <00:39:19.665>you <00:39:19.865>need <00:39:20.065>this <00:39:20.265>team <00:39:20.465>with <00:39:20.665>different <00:39:20.865>backgrounds,

657
00:39:24.755 --> 00:39:26.335
<00:39:24.755>uh, <00:39:25.455>different <00:39:26.155>perspectives.

658
00:39:26.675 --> 00:39:30.695
<00:39:26.675>You <00:39:26.830>actually <00:39:26.986>need, <00:39:27.141>um, <00:39:27.297>need <00:39:27.452>role <00:39:27.608>models <00:39:27.763>in <00:39:27.919>the <00:39:28.075>team.

659
00:39:31.235 --> 00:39:33.495
<00:39:31.235>So <00:39:31.585>I <00:39:31.935>think <00:39:32.285>that, <00:39:32.635>um,

660
00:39:33.955 --> 00:39:37.495
<00:39:33.955>or <00:39:34.188>for <00:39:34.421>me, <00:39:34.654>one <00:39:34.888>really, <00:39:35.121>uh, <00:39:35.355>big,

661
00:39:38.595 --> 00:39:42.855
<00:39:38.595>big <00:39:38.711>thing <00:39:38.828>in <00:39:38.944>my <00:39:39.061>ca <00:39:39.178>career <00:39:39.294>was, <00:39:39.411>uh, <00:39:39.528>the <00:39:39.645>first <00:39:39.761>time <00:39:39.878>I, <00:39:39.995>I

662
00:39:43.675 --> 00:39:46.335
<00:39:43.675>met <00:39:43.875>a <00:39:44.075>software <00:39:44.275>developer, <00:39:44.475>a <00:39:44.675>female <00:39:44.875>software <00:39:45.075>developer

663
00:39:46.445 --> 00:39:48.495
<00:39:46.445>that <00:39:46.725>was <00:39:47.005>actually <00:39:47.285>older <00:39:47.565>than <00:39:47.845>me.

664
00:39:49.115 --> 00:39:50.775
<00:39:49.115>For <00:39:49.348>me, <00:39:49.581>it <00:39:49.814>was <00:39:50.048>a <00:39:50.281>special <00:39:50.515>thing.

665
00:39:51.035 --> 00:39:55.535
<00:39:51.035>And <00:39:51.210>up <00:39:51.384>until <00:39:51.560>that <00:39:51.734>point, <00:39:51.910>I <00:39:52.085>actually <00:39:52.259>underestimated <00:39:52.435>the,

666
00:39:56.315 --> 00:39:58.335
<00:39:56.315>the <00:39:56.595>importance <00:39:56.875>of, <00:39:57.155>of <00:39:57.435>role <00:39:57.715>models.

667
00:39:59.075 --> 00:40:03.095
<00:39:59.075>But, <00:39:59.202>um, <00:39:59.329>role <00:39:59.456>models <00:39:59.584>give <00:39:59.711>you <00:39:59.838>actually <00:39:59.965>a <00:40:00.093>real <00:40:00.220>good <00:40:00.347>sense <00:40:00.475>on,

668
00:40:03.515 --> 00:40:05.535
<00:40:03.515>um, <00:40:03.795>how <00:40:04.075>important <00:40:04.355>is <00:40:04.634>it's <00:40:04.915>actually

669
00:40:05.965 --> 00:40:08.535
<00:40:05.965>that <00:40:06.165>you <00:40:06.365>see <00:40:06.565>your <00:40:06.765>future <00:40:06.965>in <00:40:07.165>a <00:40:07.365>place.

670
00:40:09.155 --> 00:40:13.895
<00:40:09.155>So <00:40:09.310>just <00:40:09.466>by, <00:40:09.621>by <00:40:09.777>seeing <00:40:09.932>that <00:40:10.088>somebody <00:40:10.243>similar <00:40:10.399>to <00:40:10.555>you,

671
00:40:14.635 --> 00:40:18.935
<00:40:14.635>um, <00:40:14.790>or <00:40:14.946>even <00:40:15.101>not <00:40:15.257>even <00:40:15.412>somebody <00:40:15.568>you <00:40:15.723>can <00:40:15.879>relate <00:40:16.035>to,

672
00:40:19.395 --> 00:40:20.495
<00:40:19.395>uh, <00:40:19.725>is <00:40:20.055>also <00:40:20.384>there.

673
00:40:21.435 --> 00:40:25.775
<00:40:21.435>Um, <00:40:21.668>yeah, <00:40:21.901>uh, <00:40:22.134>I <00:40:22.368>think <00:40:22.601>we <00:40:22.835>covered

674
00:40:26.315 --> 00:40:29.975
<00:40:26.315>the <00:40:26.470>diversity <00:40:26.626>part <00:40:26.781>and <00:40:26.937>the <00:40:27.092>different <00:40:27.248>teams, <00:40:27.403>um, <00:40:27.559>a <00:40:27.715>lot.

675
00:40:30.615 --> 00:40:31.775
<00:40:30.615>I <00:40:30.875>think <00:40:31.136>that's <00:40:31.398>pretty <00:40:31.659>clear.

676
00:40:32.035 --> 00:40:33.735
<00:40:32.035>Uh, <00:40:32.501>for <00:40:32.968>now, <00:40:33.435>um,

677
00:40:35.155 --> 00:40:40.095
<00:40:35.155>the <00:40:35.355>self-directed <00:40:35.555>performing <00:40:35.755>teams <00:40:35.955>is <00:40:36.155>also <00:40:36.355>quite <00:40:36.555>essential,

678
00:40:40.475 --> 00:40:44.255
<00:40:40.475>um, <00:40:40.674>or <00:40:40.875>quite <00:40:41.075>good <00:40:41.275>fit <00:40:41.475>for, <00:40:41.674>for, <00:40:41.875>um,

679
00:40:44.905 --> 00:40:48.855
<00:40:44.905>autonomous, <00:40:45.185>um, <00:40:45.465>independent <00:40:45.745>individuals, <00:40:46.025>uh, <00:40:46.305>to,

680
00:40:48.875 --> 00:40:49.935
<00:40:48.875>to <00:40:49.113>find <00:40:49.352>a <00:40:49.590>good <00:40:49.828>place

681
00:40:50.325 --> 00:40:53.975
<00:40:50.325>because, <00:40:50.500>um, <00:40:50.674>what <00:40:50.850>it <00:40:51.024>means <00:40:51.200>is <00:40:51.375>actually <00:40:51.549>that, <00:40:51.725>um,

682
00:40:54.225 --> 00:40:57.135
<00:40:54.225>there <00:40:54.458>is <00:40:54.691>no <00:40:54.924>micromanaging, <00:40:55.158>there <00:40:55.391>is <00:40:55.625>nobody

683
00:40:57.315 --> 00:41:00.615
<00:40:57.315>who <00:40:57.442>tells <00:40:57.569>you <00:40:57.696>exactly <00:40:57.824>what <00:40:57.951>to <00:40:58.078>do <00:40:58.205>and <00:40:58.333>what <00:40:58.460>not <00:40:58.587>to <00:40:58.715>do,

684
00:41:00.635 --> 00:41:02.415
<00:41:00.635>but <00:41:00.985>it's <00:41:01.335>rather <00:41:01.685>about, <00:41:02.035>um,

685
00:41:03.445 --> 00:41:05.855
<00:41:03.445>finding <00:41:03.725>solutions <00:41:04.005>together <00:41:04.285>in <00:41:04.565>the <00:41:04.845>team.

686
00:41:06.595 --> 00:41:10.975
<00:41:06.595>And <00:41:06.875>this <00:41:07.154>can <00:41:07.435>be <00:41:07.714>really <00:41:07.995>exhausting

687
00:41:11.165 --> 00:41:13.615
<00:41:11.165>sometimes <00:41:11.340>depends <00:41:11.515>a <00:41:11.690>little <00:41:11.865>bit <00:41:12.040>on <00:41:12.215>the <00:41:12.390>team <00:41:12.565>and,

688
00:41:13.635 --> 00:41:17.855
<00:41:13.635>and <00:41:13.790>how <00:41:13.946>the <00:41:14.101>structure <00:41:14.257>is, <00:41:14.412>but <00:41:14.568>it's <00:41:14.723>definitely <00:41:14.879>worth <00:41:15.035>it

689
00:41:17.925 --> 00:41:21.575
<00:41:17.925>because <00:41:18.125>if <00:41:18.325>you <00:41:18.525>find <00:41:18.725>something <00:41:18.925>together, <00:41:19.125>it <00:41:19.325>really,

690
00:41:22.235 --> 00:41:26.095
<00:41:22.235>or <00:41:22.375>it, <00:41:22.515>it's <00:41:22.655>more <00:41:22.795>probable <00:41:22.935>that <00:41:23.075>it <00:41:23.215>fits <00:41:23.355>and <00:41:23.495>it <00:41:23.635>sticks,

691
00:41:27.075 --> 00:41:31.255
<00:41:27.075>and <00:41:27.230>it's <00:41:27.386>really <00:41:27.541>an <00:41:27.697>achievement <00:41:27.852>of <00:41:28.008>felt <00:41:28.163>as <00:41:28.319>an <00:41:28.475>achievement.

692
00:41:31.755 --> 00:41:36.325
<00:41:31.755>Um, <00:41:31.910>it <00:41:32.066>also <00:41:32.221>means <00:41:32.377>that <00:41:32.532>everybody <00:41:32.688>chips <00:41:32.843>in, <00:41:32.999>so <00:41:33.155>everybody

693
00:41:37.395 --> 00:41:40.125
<00:41:37.395>does <00:41:37.675>the <00:41:37.955>part, <00:41:38.235>everybody <00:41:38.515>takes <00:41:38.795>responsibility,

694
00:41:40.235 --> 00:41:44.325
<00:41:40.235>everybody <00:41:40.435>wants <00:41:40.635>to, <00:41:40.835>um, <00:41:41.035>to <00:41:41.235>help <00:41:41.435>out <00:41:41.635>with

695
00:41:44.925 --> 00:41:48.745
<00:41:44.925>whatever <00:41:45.158>task, <00:41:45.391>um, <00:41:45.625>is <00:41:45.858>actually <00:41:46.091>the <00:41:46.325>next.

696
00:41:49.045 --> 00:41:52.185
<00:41:49.045>So, <00:41:49.278>um, <00:41:49.511>there <00:41:49.745>are <00:41:49.978>no <00:41:50.211>dedicated <00:41:50.445>roles.

697
00:41:52.885 --> 00:41:55.505
<00:41:52.885>Uh, <00:41:53.351>there <00:41:53.818>are <00:41:54.285>specializations

698
00:41:55.765 --> 00:41:58.385
<00:41:55.765>and <00:41:55.964>people <00:41:56.165>that <00:41:56.365>are <00:41:56.565>really, <00:41:56.765>I <00:41:56.964>don't <00:41:57.165>know,

699
00:41:58.855 --> 00:42:00.745
<00:41:58.855>have <00:41:59.135>some <00:41:59.415>expertise <00:41:59.695>in <00:41:59.975>some <00:42:00.255>topics,

700
00:42:01.085 --> 00:42:05.675
<00:42:01.085>but, <00:42:01.285>um, <00:42:01.485>everybody <00:42:01.685>works <00:42:01.885>together <00:42:02.085>to <00:42:02.285>achieve <00:42:02.485>something.

701
00:42:07.895 --> 00:42:12.635
<00:42:07.895>Um, <00:42:08.128>collective <00:42:08.361>ownership, <00:42:08.595>um, <00:42:08.828>might <00:42:09.061>also <00:42:09.295>be,

702
00:42:13.495 --> 00:42:17.205
<00:42:13.495>be, <00:42:13.775>uh, <00:42:14.055>I <00:42:14.335>don't <00:42:14.615>know, <00:42:14.895>might,

703
00:42:17.205 --> 00:42:21.605
<00:42:17.205>might <00:42:17.404>also <00:42:17.605>lighten <00:42:17.805>some <00:42:18.005>structures <00:42:18.205>up, <00:42:18.404>um, <00:42:18.605>or,

704
00:42:21.665 --> 00:42:25.005
<00:42:21.665>or <00:42:22.015>some <00:42:22.365>strict <00:42:22.715>hierarchical <00:42:23.065>fuse.

705
00:42:25.585 --> 00:42:30.365
<00:42:25.585>Um, <00:42:25.865>since <00:42:26.145>it's, <00:42:26.425>um, <00:42:26.705>it's <00:42:26.985>the,

706
00:42:30.545 --> 00:42:34.325
<00:42:30.545>the <00:42:30.672>thing <00:42:30.799>I, <00:42:30.926>I <00:42:31.054>already <00:42:31.181>teaser <00:42:31.308>in <00:42:31.435>the, <00:42:31.563>in <00:42:31.690>the <00:42:31.817>previous <00:42:31.945>slide,

707
00:42:34.825 --> 00:42:38.805
<00:42:34.825>um, <00:42:35.105>that <00:42:35.384>also <00:42:35.665>less <00:42:35.944>shiny <00:42:36.225>roles,

708
00:42:39.705 --> 00:42:43.325
<00:42:39.705>uh, <00:42:39.845>which <00:42:39.985>are, <00:42:40.125>at <00:42:40.265>least <00:42:40.404>in <00:42:40.545>the <00:42:40.685>past <00:42:40.825>often <00:42:40.965>were <00:42:41.105>often

709
00:42:43.325 --> 00:42:44.445
<00:42:43.325>taken <00:42:43.661>over <00:42:43.997>by <00:42:44.333>women.

710
00:42:44.505 --> 00:42:48.085
<00:42:44.505>For <00:42:44.660>example, <00:42:44.816>support <00:42:44.971>rules, <00:42:45.127>which <00:42:45.282>is <00:42:45.438>also <00:42:45.593>big <00:42:45.749>topic, <00:42:45.905>um,

711
00:42:48.465 --> 00:42:52.565
<00:42:48.465>for, <00:42:48.665>for <00:42:48.865>our <00:42:49.065>company, <00:42:49.265>um, <00:42:49.465>are <00:42:49.665>taking <00:42:49.865>over

712
00:42:52.625 --> 00:42:54.965
<00:42:52.625>by <00:42:52.905>everybody <00:42:53.185>since <00:42:53.465>everybody <00:42:53.745>chips <00:42:54.025>in

713
00:42:54.965 --> 00:42:56.405
<00:42:54.965>and <00:42:55.397>everybody <00:42:55.829>does <00:42:56.261>everything.

714
00:42:56.985 --> 00:43:00.045
<00:42:56.985>Um, <00:42:57.335>everybody <00:42:57.685>also <00:42:58.035>has <00:42:58.385>to,

715
00:43:00.225 --> 00:43:03.245
<00:43:00.225>to <00:43:00.458>take <00:43:00.691>into <00:43:00.924>consideration <00:43:01.158>those <00:43:01.391>communicative <00:43:01.625>jobs

716
00:43:03.675 --> 00:43:08.045
<00:43:03.675>that <00:43:03.850>were <00:43:04.025>often <00:43:04.200>actually, <00:43:04.375>um, <00:43:04.550>taking <00:43:04.725>over <00:43:04.900>the <00:43:05.075>women.

717
00:43:08.625 --> 00:43:12.805
<00:43:08.625>And <00:43:08.800>this <00:43:08.975>collectiveness <00:43:09.150>actually <00:43:09.325>opens <00:43:09.500>up <00:43:09.675>a <00:43:09.850>better <00:43:10.025>view

718
00:43:12.905 --> 00:43:16.325
<00:43:12.905>and <00:43:13.185>actually, <00:43:13.465>um, <00:43:13.745>yeah, <00:43:14.025>even, <00:43:14.305>even

719
00:43:16.915 --> 00:43:20.045
<00:43:16.915>establishes <00:43:17.115>some <00:43:17.315>gratefulness <00:43:17.515>if <00:43:17.715>somebody <00:43:17.915>does <00:43:18.115>the <00:43:18.315>job.

720
00:43:20.225 --> 00:43:24.125
<00:43:20.225>So <00:43:20.458>it's <00:43:20.691>a <00:43:20.924>way <00:43:21.158>away <00:43:21.391>from, <00:43:21.625>um,

721
00:43:25.425 --> 00:43:28.845
<00:43:25.425>seeing, <00:43:25.705>seeing <00:43:25.985>something <00:43:26.265>not <00:43:26.545>as <00:43:26.825>important,

722
00:43:29.265 --> 00:43:32.565
<00:43:29.265>but <00:43:29.731>rather <00:43:30.198>appreciating <00:43:30.665>somebody

723
00:43:32.625 --> 00:43:34.525
<00:43:32.625>who <00:43:32.858>does <00:43:33.091>it, <00:43:33.325>who <00:43:33.558>does <00:43:33.791>the <00:43:34.025>job.

724
00:43:36.185 --> 00:43:41.045
<00:43:36.185>Um, <00:43:36.360>another <00:43:36.535>one <00:43:36.710>which <00:43:36.884>plays <00:43:37.060>into <00:43:37.235>the <00:43:37.410>flexibility <00:43:37.585>part,

725
00:43:41.305 --> 00:43:46.005
<00:43:41.305>so, <00:43:41.771>um, <00:43:42.238>is <00:43:42.705>that,

726
00:43:46.145 --> 00:43:50.925
<00:43:46.145>um, <00:43:46.300>with <00:43:46.456>agility, <00:43:46.611>you <00:43:46.767>try <00:43:46.922>to <00:43:47.078>develop, <00:43:47.233>um, <00:43:47.389>software <00:43:47.545>products

727
00:43:50.925 --> 00:43:52.285
<00:43:50.925>with <00:43:51.333>a <00:43:51.741>sustainable <00:43:52.149>pace.

728
00:43:53.065 --> 00:43:58.055
<00:43:53.065>Um, <00:43:53.265>actually <00:43:53.465>the <00:43:53.665>best <00:43:53.865>source <00:43:54.065>code <00:43:54.265>is <00:43:54.465>written

729
00:43:58.565 --> 00:44:01.805
<00:43:58.565>from <00:43:58.845>a <00:43:59.125>developer <00:43:59.405>who <00:43:59.685>is, <00:43:59.965>um,

730
00:44:03.035 --> 00:44:07.645
<00:44:03.035>well <00:44:03.210>rested <00:44:03.384>and <00:44:03.560>chilled <00:44:03.734>and <00:44:03.910>has <00:44:04.085>time <00:44:04.259>to <00:44:04.435>think

731
00:44:07.785 --> 00:44:10.645
<00:44:07.785>and <00:44:08.018>estimate <00:44:08.251>whatever <00:44:08.484>he <00:44:08.718>or <00:44:08.951>she's <00:44:09.185>programming.

732
00:44:11.505 --> 00:44:14.865
<00:44:11.505>And <00:44:11.738>it <00:44:11.971>is <00:44:12.205>often <00:44:12.438>the <00:44:12.671>case, <00:44:12.905>um,

733
00:44:15.325 --> 00:44:19.105
<00:44:15.325>and <00:44:15.464>not <00:44:15.605>that <00:44:15.745>easy <00:44:15.884>to <00:44:16.024>avoid <00:44:16.165>that <00:44:16.305>there <00:44:16.444>are <00:44:16.585>those, <00:44:16.725>um,

734
00:44:19.735 --> 00:44:22.465
<00:44:19.735>fast <00:44:20.015>implementations <00:44:20.295>in <00:44:20.575>the <00:44:20.855>last <00:44:21.135>seconds,

735
00:44:23.325 --> 00:44:26.865
<00:44:23.325>but <00:44:23.500>that's <00:44:23.674>actually <00:44:23.850>something, <00:44:24.024>uh, <00:44:24.200>you <00:44:24.375>don't <00:44:24.549>aim <00:44:24.725>for.

736
00:44:27.405 --> 00:44:30.745
<00:44:27.405>So, <00:44:27.545>um, <00:44:27.685>actually <00:44:27.825>we, <00:44:27.965>we <00:44:28.105>try <00:44:28.245>to <00:44:28.385>avoid <00:44:28.525>it <00:44:28.665>at <00:44:28.805>all.

737
00:44:31.505 --> 00:44:34.365
<00:44:31.505>Um, <00:44:31.785>and <00:44:32.065>it <00:44:32.345>fits <00:44:32.625>better <00:44:32.905>for,

738
00:44:36.835 --> 00:44:40.135
<00:44:36.835>for <00:44:37.068>everyone <00:44:37.301>who, <00:44:37.535>who <00:44:37.768>really <00:44:38.001>has, <00:44:38.235>um,

739
00:44:42.135 --> 00:44:44.415
<00:44:42.135>a, <00:44:42.368>a <00:44:42.601>work <00:44:42.835>life <00:44:43.068>balance <00:44:43.301>in <00:44:43.535>mind.

740
00:44:44.555 --> 00:44:47.775
<00:44:44.555>So, <00:44:44.730>uh, <00:44:44.904>a <00:44:45.080>situation, <00:44:45.254>a <00:44:45.430>working <00:44:45.605>situation <00:44:45.779>where <00:44:45.955>he

741
00:44:47.835 --> 00:44:52.255
<00:44:47.835>or <00:44:48.068>she, <00:44:48.301>um, <00:44:48.535>can <00:44:48.768>really, <00:44:49.001>um, <00:44:49.235>separate,

742
00:44:52.835 --> 00:44:54.575
<00:44:52.835>um, <00:44:53.535>and, <00:44:54.235>and,

743
00:44:54.755 --> 00:44:57.975
<00:44:54.755>and, <00:44:54.988>uh, <00:44:55.221>yeah, <00:44:55.455>align <00:44:55.688>the <00:44:55.921>work <00:44:56.155>schedule

744
00:44:58.085 --> 00:45:01.775
<00:44:58.085>with <00:44:58.365>the <00:44:58.645>private <00:44:58.925>one <00:44:59.205>better, <00:44:59.485>so

745
00:45:03.145 --> 00:45:04.715
<00:45:03.145>it's <00:45:03.425>also <00:45:03.705>better <00:45:03.985>for <00:45:04.265>the <00:45:04.545>customer.

746
00:45:04.855 --> 00:45:08.755
<00:45:04.855>So <00:45:04.982>we <00:45:05.109>found <00:45:05.236>out <00:45:05.364>that <00:45:05.491>our <00:45:05.618>customers <00:45:05.745>are <00:45:05.873>way <00:45:06.000>more <00:45:06.127>happy, <00:45:06.255>um,

747
00:45:09.375 --> 00:45:13.195
<00:45:09.375>if <00:45:09.575>we <00:45:09.775>tell <00:45:09.975>them <00:45:10.175>something <00:45:10.375>lasts <00:45:10.575>longer, <00:45:10.775>um,

748
00:45:13.895 --> 00:45:16.955
<00:45:13.895>but <00:45:14.095>it, <00:45:14.295>they <00:45:14.495>really <00:45:14.695>get <00:45:14.895>it, <00:45:15.095>uh, <00:45:15.295>instead

749
00:45:16.955 --> 00:45:18.675
<00:45:16.955>of <00:45:17.188>just <00:45:17.421>telling <00:45:17.654>them <00:45:17.888>it, <00:45:18.121>it <00:45:18.355>comes

750
00:45:18.775 --> 00:45:21.075
<00:45:18.775>and <00:45:18.950>it <00:45:19.125>comes <00:45:19.300>in <00:45:19.475>the <00:45:19.650>last <00:45:19.825>second <00:45:20.000>or <00:45:20.175>so.

751
00:45:21.455 --> 00:45:24.595
<00:45:21.455>So, <00:45:21.688>um, <00:45:21.921>trust <00:45:22.154>is <00:45:22.388>really <00:45:22.621>something <00:45:22.855>very,

752
00:45:24.665 --> 00:45:26.235
<00:45:24.665>very <00:45:25.015>special <00:45:25.365>and <00:45:25.715>important <00:45:26.065>here.

753
00:45:27.295 --> 00:45:29.915
<00:45:27.295>Um, <00:45:27.995>the <00:45:28.695>last,

754
00:45:30.295 --> 00:45:33.875
<00:45:30.295>or <00:45:30.528>almost <00:45:30.761>the <00:45:30.995>last <00:45:31.228>one <00:45:31.461>is <00:45:31.695>craftsmanship.

755
00:45:34.535 --> 00:45:37.515
<00:45:34.535>And <00:45:34.768>craftsmanship <00:45:35.001>is <00:45:35.234>the <00:45:35.468>thing <00:45:35.701>that, <00:45:35.935>um,

756
00:45:37.935 --> 00:45:41.035
<00:45:37.935>HR <00:45:38.215>software <00:45:38.495>development <00:45:38.775>teams <00:45:39.055>really, <00:45:39.335>uh,

757
00:45:41.245 --> 00:45:42.435
<00:45:41.245>focus <00:45:41.602>on <00:45:41.959>giving <00:45:42.316>goals.

758
00:45:42.975 --> 00:45:47.755
<00:45:42.975>So, <00:45:43.130>um, <00:45:43.286>many <00:45:43.441>people <00:45:43.597>are <00:45:43.752>actually <00:45:43.908>on <00:45:44.063>the <00:45:44.219>search <00:45:44.375>for,

759
00:45:48.335 --> 00:45:51.115
<00:45:48.335>um, <00:45:48.801>for <00:45:49.268>something <00:45:49.735>valuable

760
00:45:51.255 --> 00:45:53.315
<00:45:51.255>and <00:45:51.535>something <00:45:51.815>meaningful <00:45:52.095>in <00:45:52.375>their <00:45:52.655>life.

761
00:45:54.095 --> 00:45:57.595
<00:45:54.095>And <00:45:54.328>having <00:45:54.561>the <00:45:54.794>ability <00:45:55.028>to <00:45:55.261>really <00:45:55.495>see

762
00:45:58.085 --> 00:45:59.155
<00:45:58.085>where <00:45:58.406>it <00:45:58.727>is <00:45:59.048>going

763
00:45:59.295 --> 00:46:02.915
<00:45:59.295>and <00:45:59.470>having, <00:45:59.645>uh, <00:45:59.820>the <00:45:59.995>possibility <00:46:00.170>to <00:46:00.345>also, <00:46:00.520>um, <00:46:00.695>bring

764
00:46:03.435 --> 00:46:07.755
<00:46:03.435>yourself <00:46:03.634>into <00:46:03.835>the <00:46:04.035>product, <00:46:04.235>um, <00:46:04.435>really <00:46:04.634>forced <00:46:04.835>us

765
00:46:08.295 --> 00:46:12.475
<00:46:08.295>and, <00:46:08.495>and, <00:46:08.695>and <00:46:08.895>supports <00:46:09.095>this, <00:46:09.295>um, <00:46:09.495>thought <00:46:09.695>of,

766
00:46:12.615 --> 00:46:17.435
<00:46:12.615>of <00:46:12.895>purpose <00:46:13.174>and <00:46:13.455>even <00:46:13.734>being <00:46:14.015>good

767
00:46:17.535 --> 00:46:22.155
<00:46:17.535>for <00:46:17.674>the <00:46:17.815>team <00:46:17.955>and <00:46:18.095>good <00:46:18.234>for <00:46:18.375>the <00:46:18.515>customer <00:46:18.654>also, <00:46:18.795>um, <00:46:18.935>satisfies,

768
00:46:22.455 --> 00:46:25.235
<00:46:22.455>uh, <00:46:22.688>this, <00:46:22.921>this <00:46:23.154>sense <00:46:23.388>of <00:46:23.621>social <00:46:23.855>purpose.

769
00:46:25.815 --> 00:46:28.955
<00:46:25.815>So <00:46:25.970>doing <00:46:26.126>something <00:46:26.281>good <00:46:26.437>for <00:46:26.592>somebody <00:46:26.748>else, <00:46:26.903>what <00:46:27.059>I <00:46:27.215>mentioned

770
00:46:28.955 --> 00:46:32.475
<00:46:28.955>before, <00:46:29.095>what <00:46:29.235>I <00:46:29.375>have, <00:46:29.515>I <00:46:29.654>really <00:46:29.795>want <00:46:29.935>to <00:46:30.075>make <00:46:30.215>the <00:46:30.355>lives

771
00:46:32.495 --> 00:46:34.075
<00:46:32.495>of <00:46:32.775>the <00:46:33.055>people <00:46:33.335>around <00:46:33.615>me <00:46:33.895>better.

772
00:46:35.775 --> 00:46:40.115
<00:46:35.775>Um, <00:46:35.915>and <00:46:36.055>the <00:46:36.195>last <00:46:36.335>one, <00:46:36.475>um, <00:46:36.615>I <00:46:36.755>want <00:46:36.895>to <00:46:37.035>mention <00:46:37.175>is,

773
00:46:40.295 --> 00:46:41.315
<00:46:40.295>uh, <00:46:41.213>collaboration.

774
00:46:42.215 --> 00:46:46.235
<00:46:42.215>Um, <00:46:42.415>I <00:46:42.615>think <00:46:42.815>it's, <00:46:43.015>it's <00:46:43.215>rather <00:46:43.415>obvious, <00:46:43.615>um,

775
00:46:47.335 --> 00:46:49.635
<00:46:47.335>but <00:46:47.568>I <00:46:47.801>also <00:46:48.035>think <00:46:48.268>it's <00:46:48.501>quite <00:46:48.735>essential

776
00:46:49.695 --> 00:46:53.635
<00:46:49.695>and <00:46:49.895>maybe <00:46:50.095>it's <00:46:50.295>a <00:46:50.495>little <00:46:50.695>underestimated <00:46:50.895>sometimes, <00:46:51.095>um,

777
00:46:54.415 --> 00:46:57.075
<00:46:54.415>but <00:46:54.695>it <00:46:54.975>is <00:46:55.255>really <00:46:55.535>about <00:46:55.815>communicating.

778
00:46:57.535 --> 00:46:59.915
<00:46:57.535>Um, <00:46:57.768>and <00:46:58.001>it's <00:46:58.234>not <00:46:58.468>only <00:46:58.701>about <00:46:58.935>communicating,

779
00:47:00.015 --> 00:47:04.955
<00:47:00.015>but <00:47:00.190>also <00:47:00.365>about <00:47:00.540>understanding <00:47:00.714>and <00:47:00.890>really <00:47:01.065>being <00:47:01.240>a <00:47:01.415>good

780
00:47:05.055 --> 00:47:09.075
<00:47:05.055>and <00:47:05.230>an <00:47:05.404>essential <00:47:05.580>part, <00:47:05.754>uh, <00:47:05.930>by <00:47:06.105>fostering <00:47:06.279>this <00:47:06.455>culture,

781
00:47:09.795 --> 00:47:12.995
<00:47:09.795>creating <00:47:10.075>teams, <00:47:10.355>um, <00:47:10.635>being <00:47:10.915>a <00:47:11.195>good

782
00:47:13.135 --> 00:47:15.035
<00:47:13.135>and <00:47:13.485>reliable <00:47:13.835>part <00:47:14.185>in <00:47:14.535>them,

783
00:47:16.055 --> 00:47:18.915
<00:47:16.055>and, <00:47:16.521>uh, <00:47:16.988>yeah, <00:47:17.455>being,

784
00:47:19.125 --> 00:47:22.675
<00:47:19.125>being <00:47:19.325>an <00:47:19.525>active <00:47:19.725>part <00:47:19.925>in <00:47:20.125>creating <00:47:20.325>a <00:47:20.525>wonderful

785
00:47:22.675 --> 00:47:23.755
<00:47:22.675>working <00:47:23.647>environment.

786
00:47:25.935 --> 00:47:30.685
<00:47:25.935>So, <00:47:26.090>um, <00:47:26.246>that's <00:47:26.401>it <00:47:26.557>actually <00:47:26.712>also <00:47:26.868>for <00:47:27.023>the <00:47:27.179>reasons <00:47:27.335>why

787
00:47:31.855 --> 00:47:36.045
<00:47:31.855>might <00:47:31.995>be <00:47:32.135>a <00:47:32.275>better <00:47:32.415>fit <00:47:32.555>for <00:47:32.695>one <00:47:32.835>another <00:47:32.975>to, <00:47:33.115>to, <00:47:33.255>um,

788
00:47:36.595 --> 00:47:40.405
<00:47:36.595>work <00:47:36.770>with <00:47:36.944>HR <00:47:37.120>practices, <00:47:37.294>not <00:47:37.470>only <00:47:37.645>at <00:47:37.819>the <00:47:37.995>workplace,

789
00:47:40.505 --> 00:47:42.245
<00:47:40.505>but <00:47:40.785>maybe <00:47:41.065>also <00:47:41.345>at <00:47:41.625>home <00:47:41.905>or,

790
00:47:42.265 --> 00:47:45.285
<00:47:42.265>or <00:47:42.440>in <00:47:42.615>your <00:47:42.790>private <00:47:42.964>lives <00:47:43.140>can <00:47:43.315>be <00:47:43.490>done <00:47:43.665>everywhere.

791
00:47:46.625 --> 00:47:48.405
<00:47:46.625>Um, <00:47:46.905>I <00:47:47.185>really, <00:47:47.465>really <00:47:47.745>thank <00:47:48.025>you

792
00:47:48.625 --> 00:47:50.285
<00:47:48.625>for <00:47:48.905>your <00:47:49.185>time <00:47:49.465>and <00:47:49.745>your <00:47:50.025>attention.

793
00:47:50.725 --> 00:47:54.605
<00:47:50.725>I <00:47:50.880>also <00:47:51.036>added <00:47:51.191>the <00:47:51.347>sources, <00:47:51.502>um, <00:47:51.658>of <00:47:51.813>my <00:47:51.969>presentation, <00:47:52.125>uh,

794
00:47:54.665 --> 00:47:55.685
<00:47:54.665>to <00:47:54.971>the <00:47:55.277>last <00:47:55.583>slide.

795
00:47:55.845 --> 00:47:58.725
<00:47:55.845>I <00:47:56.020>can <00:47:56.194>also <00:47:56.370>provide <00:47:56.544>you <00:47:56.720>with <00:47:56.895>the <00:47:57.069>information <00:47:57.245>afterwards.

796
00:47:59.585 --> 00:48:04.285
<00:47:59.585>Um, <00:47:59.712>other <00:47:59.839>than <00:47:59.966>that, <00:48:00.094>I <00:48:00.221>want <00:48:00.348>to <00:48:00.475>say <00:48:00.603>really, <00:48:00.730>really <00:48:00.857>thank <00:48:00.985>you

797
00:48:04.625 --> 00:48:05.885
<00:48:04.625>for <00:48:05.192>this <00:48:05.759>opportunity,

798
00:48:07.145 --> 00:48:10.085
<00:48:07.145>and <00:48:07.495>yeah, <00:48:07.845>I <00:48:08.195>am <00:48:08.545>happy

799
00:48:10.145 --> 00:48:13.125
<00:48:10.145>to <00:48:10.345>answer <00:48:10.545>your <00:48:10.745>questions <00:48:10.945>if <00:48:11.145>there <00:48:11.345>are <00:48:11.545>some.

800
00:48:15.885 --> 00:48:17.265
<00:48:15.885>Hey, <00:48:16.133>Evelyn, <00:48:16.381>thank <00:48:16.630>you <00:48:16.878>very <00:48:17.127>much.

801
00:48:17.605 --> 00:48:19.585
<00:48:17.605>Uh, <00:48:17.838>I <00:48:18.071>am <00:48:18.305>really <00:48:18.538>happy <00:48:18.771>to <00:48:19.005>hear,

802
00:48:19.885 --> 00:48:22.265
<00:48:19.885>and <00:48:20.001>I, <00:48:20.118>I, <00:48:20.235>I <00:48:20.351>believe <00:48:20.468>that <00:48:20.585>a <00:48:20.701>lot <00:48:20.818>of <00:48:20.935>people <00:48:21.051>can <00:48:21.168>relate <00:48:21.285>to

803
00:48:22.265 --> 00:48:25.185
<00:48:22.265>what <00:48:22.404>you <00:48:22.545>just <00:48:22.685>said, <00:48:22.825>and <00:48:22.964>I'm <00:48:23.105>very <00:48:23.245>thankful <00:48:23.384>that <00:48:23.525>we <00:48:23.665>shared,

804
00:48:25.365 --> 00:48:26.785
<00:48:25.365>shared <00:48:25.790>your <00:48:26.216>personal <00:48:26.643>story.

805
00:48:26.985 --> 00:48:29.225
<00:48:26.985>I <00:48:27.125>would <00:48:27.265>like <00:48:27.405>to <00:48:27.545>ask <00:48:27.685>the <00:48:27.825>first <00:48:27.965>question, <00:48:28.105>the <00:48:28.245>first <00:48:28.385>question,

806
00:48:29.225 --> 00:48:32.145
<00:48:29.225>and <00:48:29.424>to <00:48:29.625>focus <00:48:29.825>on <00:48:30.025>it <00:48:30.225>actually, <00:48:30.424>how <00:48:30.625>happened

807
00:48:32.145 --> 00:48:34.145
<00:48:32.145>that <00:48:32.378>you <00:48:32.611>ended <00:48:32.845>up <00:48:33.078>in <00:48:33.311>software <00:48:33.545>development,

808
00:48:34.285 --> 00:48:35.505
<00:48:34.285>who <00:48:34.559>were <00:48:34.834>your <00:48:35.108>role <00:48:35.383>model

809
00:48:35.805 --> 00:48:37.945
<00:48:35.805>and, <00:48:36.004>uh, <00:48:36.205>who <00:48:36.404>supported <00:48:36.605>you <00:48:36.805>in <00:48:37.004>this <00:48:37.205>journey?

810
00:48:37.945 --> 00:48:39.345
<00:48:37.945>Because <00:48:38.155>you <00:48:38.365>mentioned <00:48:38.575>a <00:48:38.785>lot <00:48:38.995>of <00:48:39.205>things

811
00:48:39.445 --> 00:48:43.625
<00:48:39.445>and <00:48:39.620>it <00:48:39.795>felt <00:48:39.970>like <00:48:40.145>women <00:48:40.320>are <00:48:40.495>not <00:48:40.670>necessarily <00:48:40.845>supported

812
00:48:43.765 --> 00:48:46.865
<00:48:43.765>or <00:48:43.998>encouraged <00:48:44.231>towards, <00:48:44.464>uh, <00:48:44.698>software <00:48:44.931>development, <00:48:45.165>uh,

813
00:48:46.865 --> 00:48:48.745
<00:48:46.865>as <00:48:47.098>an <00:48:47.331>industry <00:48:47.564>or <00:48:47.798>as <00:48:48.031>a <00:48:48.265>profession.

814
00:48:49.045 --> 00:48:50.185
<00:48:49.045>So <00:48:49.301>what <00:48:49.558>happens <00:48:49.814>to <00:48:50.071>you?

815
00:48:51.805 --> 00:48:54.945
<00:48:51.805>Um, <00:48:52.004>yeah, <00:48:52.205>actually <00:48:52.404>what <00:48:52.605>I, <00:48:52.805>I <00:48:53.004>actually <00:48:53.205>have

816
00:48:54.945 --> 00:48:56.505
<00:48:54.945>to <00:48:55.178>admit, <00:48:55.411>I <00:48:55.645>think <00:48:55.878>I <00:48:56.111>was <00:48:56.345>lucky.

817
00:48:57.765 --> 00:49:01.745
<00:48:57.765>Um, <00:48:57.892>I, <00:48:58.019>I <00:48:58.146>didn't <00:48:58.274>have <00:48:58.401>that <00:48:58.528>many <00:48:58.655>role <00:48:58.783>models, <00:48:58.910>actually <00:48:59.037>my <00:48:59.165>many

818
00:49:02.645 --> 00:49:05.665
<00:49:02.645>in <00:49:02.772>my <00:49:02.899>family <00:49:03.026>or <00:49:03.154>so <00:49:03.281>on <00:49:03.408>or <00:49:03.535>in <00:49:03.663>my, <00:49:03.790>my <00:49:03.917>friends <00:49:04.045>home.

819
00:49:06.325 --> 00:49:10.665
<00:49:06.325>Um, <00:49:06.524>but, <00:49:06.725>um, <00:49:06.924>I, <00:49:07.125>I <00:49:07.325>was <00:49:07.524>situated <00:49:07.725>in,

820
00:49:10.665 --> 00:49:13.705
<00:49:10.665>in <00:49:10.840>upper <00:49:11.015>Austria, <00:49:11.190>and <00:49:11.365>there <00:49:11.540>is <00:49:11.715>this, <00:49:11.890>um, <00:49:12.065>university

821
00:49:13.725 --> 00:49:14.905
<00:49:13.725>of <00:49:14.256>applied <00:49:14.787>Sciences,

822
00:49:14.965 --> 00:49:18.905
<00:49:14.965>and <00:49:15.120>it <00:49:15.276>has <00:49:15.431>actually <00:49:15.587>is <00:49:15.742>recommended <00:49:15.898>by <00:49:16.053>quite <00:49:16.209>some <00:49:16.365>people.

823
00:49:20.365 --> 00:49:25.305
<00:49:20.365>And <00:49:20.504>I, <00:49:20.645>for <00:49:20.785>myself <00:49:20.924>was <00:49:21.064>always <00:49:21.205>kind <00:49:21.345>of, <00:49:21.484>um, <00:49:21.625>the <00:49:21.765>person

824
00:49:25.525 --> 00:49:28.265
<00:49:25.525>who <00:49:25.805>also <00:49:26.085>gives <00:49:26.365>herself <00:49:26.645>the <00:49:26.925>possibility

825
00:49:28.405 --> 00:49:29.785
<00:49:28.405>or <00:49:28.715>to <00:49:29.026>also <00:49:29.336>try <00:49:29.647>things.

826
00:49:30.525 --> 00:49:33.345
<00:49:30.525>And <00:49:30.991>after, <00:49:31.458>um, <00:49:31.925>yeah,

827
00:49:33.355 --> 00:49:38.265
<00:49:33.355>after <00:49:33.482>deciding <00:49:33.609>on <00:49:33.736>where <00:49:33.864>to <00:49:33.991>go <00:49:34.118>to <00:49:34.245>university, <00:49:34.373>I <00:49:34.500>wanted <00:49:34.627>to <00:49:34.755>try

828
00:49:38.865 --> 00:49:40.105
<00:49:38.865>actually <00:49:39.423>software <00:49:39.981>development.

829
00:49:40.605 --> 00:49:43.945
<00:49:40.605>Um, <00:49:40.732>since, <00:49:40.859>since <00:49:40.986>it <00:49:41.114>was <00:49:41.241>actually <00:49:41.368>a <00:49:41.495>topic <00:49:41.623>I <00:49:41.750>didn't <00:49:41.877>get <00:49:42.005>in

830
00:49:43.945 --> 00:49:47.985
<00:49:43.945>touch <00:49:44.178>with <00:49:44.411>and <00:49:44.645>I <00:49:44.878>started <00:49:45.111>biomedical <00:49:45.345>informatics.

831
00:49:48.005 --> 00:49:52.305
<00:49:48.005>And <00:49:48.121>I <00:49:48.238>have <00:49:48.355>to <00:49:48.471>admit, <00:49:48.588>it <00:49:48.705>was, <00:49:48.821>it <00:49:48.938>was <00:49:49.055>one <00:49:49.171>of <00:49:49.288>the, <00:49:49.405>um,

832
00:49:53.065 --> 00:49:55.945
<00:49:53.065>I <00:49:53.192>I <00:49:53.319>could <00:49:53.446>have <00:49:53.574>imagined <00:49:53.701>it <00:49:53.828>back <00:49:53.955>then <00:49:54.083>when <00:49:54.210>I <00:49:54.337>had <00:49:54.465>the

833
00:49:55.945 --> 00:49:57.905
<00:49:55.945>interview <00:49:56.295>there <00:49:56.645>by <00:49:56.995>a <00:49:57.345>professor

834
00:49:57.975 --> 00:50:01.265
<00:49:57.975>because <00:49:58.150>he <00:49:58.325>said, <00:49:58.500>um, <00:49:58.674>you <00:49:58.850>know, <00:49:59.025>it's <00:49:59.200>quite <00:49:59.375>technical

835
00:50:02.485 --> 00:50:04.345
<00:50:02.485>and <00:50:02.765>I <00:50:03.045>was <00:50:03.325>really <00:50:03.605>like, <00:50:03.885>that,

836
00:50:04.345 --> 00:50:05.745
<00:50:04.345>That <00:50:04.765>is <00:50:05.185>encouraging <00:50:05.605>already.

837
00:50:06.685 --> 00:50:08.625
<00:50:06.685>You <00:50:06.918>won't <00:50:07.151>make <00:50:07.384>it. <00:50:07.618>Thank <00:50:07.851>you. <00:50:08.085>Yeah,

838
00:50:08.825 --> 00:50:10.145
<00:50:08.825>I, <00:50:09.062>I <00:50:09.300>think <00:50:09.537>he <00:50:09.775>was, <00:50:10.013>um,

839
00:50:10.145 --> 00:50:12.065
<00:50:10.145>because <00:50:10.495>they're <00:50:10.845>always <00:50:11.195>confronted <00:50:11.545>with

840
00:50:12.125 --> 00:50:15.785
<00:50:12.125>so <00:50:12.265>many <00:50:12.405>dropout <00:50:12.545>rates, <00:50:12.685>not <00:50:12.825>only <00:50:12.965>women, <00:50:13.105>but <00:50:13.245>all <00:50:13.385>the <00:50:13.525>students,

841
00:50:16.285 --> 00:50:18.865
<00:50:16.285>and <00:50:16.440>they <00:50:16.596>really <00:50:16.751>try <00:50:16.907>to, <00:50:17.062>you <00:50:17.218>know, <00:50:17.373>what <00:50:17.529>you're <00:50:17.685>doing.

842
00:50:19.845 --> 00:50:22.225
<00:50:19.845>So <00:50:20.000>not <00:50:20.156>in <00:50:20.311>a <00:50:20.467>mean <00:50:20.622>way <00:50:20.778>and, <00:50:20.933>and <00:50:21.089>also <00:50:21.245>not

843
00:50:22.415 --> 00:50:23.945
<00:50:22.415>because <00:50:22.874>I'm <00:50:23.333>female <00:50:23.792>also,

844
00:50:24.365 --> 00:50:27.525
<00:50:24.365>but <00:50:24.504>really <00:50:24.645>like, <00:50:24.785>they <00:50:24.924>just <00:50:25.064>want <00:50:25.205>to <00:50:25.345>make <00:50:25.484>sure, <00:50:25.625>make <00:50:25.765>sure,

845
00:50:27.525 --> 00:50:30.165
<00:50:27.525>and <00:50:27.700>yeah, <00:50:27.875>I'm <00:50:28.050>a <00:50:28.225>little <00:50:28.400>bit <00:50:28.575>stubborn <00:50:28.750>on <00:50:28.925>sometimes,

846
00:50:30.545 --> 00:50:32.045
<00:50:30.545>so <00:50:30.770>I <00:50:30.995>just <00:50:31.220>want <00:50:31.445>to <00:50:31.670>try <00:50:31.895>it,

847
00:50:32.305 --> 00:50:35.565
<00:50:32.305>and <00:50:32.421>it <00:50:32.538>was <00:50:32.654>really <00:50:32.771>hard <00:50:32.888>in <00:50:33.004>the <00:50:33.121>beginning, <00:50:33.238>so <00:50:33.355>at <00:50:33.471>least <00:50:33.588>for <00:50:33.705>me,

848
00:50:35.665 --> 00:50:39.765
<00:50:35.665>um, <00:50:35.820>the, <00:50:35.976>I <00:50:36.131>I, <00:50:36.287>I <00:50:36.442>have <00:50:36.598>a, <00:50:36.753>a <00:50:36.909>real, <00:50:37.065>um,

849
00:50:40.785 --> 00:50:43.325
<00:50:40.785>um, <00:50:41.251>uh, <00:50:41.718>yeah, <00:50:42.185>I,

850
00:50:43.445 --> 00:50:46.325
<00:50:43.445>I <00:50:43.600>really <00:50:43.756>think <00:50:43.911>it's <00:50:44.067>awesome <00:50:44.222>if <00:50:44.378>somebody <00:50:44.533>does <00:50:44.689>a <00:50:44.845>technical

851
00:50:46.325 --> 00:50:49.205
<00:50:46.325>study <00:50:46.500>because, <00:50:46.674>um, <00:50:46.850>yeah, <00:50:47.024>I <00:50:47.200>don't <00:50:47.375>think <00:50:47.549>it's <00:50:47.725>easy

852
00:50:50.145 --> 00:50:53.605
<00:50:50.145>and, <00:50:50.285>um, <00:50:50.425>at <00:50:50.565>least <00:50:50.705>for <00:50:50.845>me, <00:50:50.985>it <00:50:51.125>was <00:50:51.265>really <00:50:51.405>hard <00:50:51.545>work

853
00:50:53.785 --> 00:50:58.165
<00:50:53.785>and <00:50:53.984>especially <00:50:54.185>also <00:50:54.384>getting, <00:50:54.585>um, <00:50:54.785>getting <00:50:54.984>the, <00:50:55.185>the,

854
00:50:58.705 --> 00:51:02.085
<00:50:58.705>the <00:50:58.880>thinking, <00:50:59.055>the <00:50:59.230>technical <00:50:59.404>thinking <00:50:59.580>into <00:50:59.755>my <00:50:59.930>head <00:51:00.105>was

855
00:51:02.105 --> 00:51:05.125
<00:51:02.105>really, <00:51:02.385>um, <00:51:02.665>a <00:51:02.945>lot <00:51:03.225>for <00:51:03.505>me.

856
00:51:05.345 --> 00:51:06.645
<00:51:05.345>But, <00:51:05.637>um, <00:51:05.930>I <00:51:06.222>got <00:51:06.515>it

857
00:51:07.505 --> 00:51:11.885
<00:51:07.505>and, <00:51:07.680>um, <00:51:07.855>I <00:51:08.030>hopefully <00:51:08.205>grew <00:51:08.380>a <00:51:08.555>little <00:51:08.730>bit, <00:51:08.905>maybe,

858
00:51:11.895 --> 00:51:16.445
<00:51:11.895>maybe <00:51:12.050>not, <00:51:12.206>but <00:51:12.361>um, <00:51:12.517>in <00:51:12.672>the <00:51:12.828>end <00:51:12.983>it <00:51:13.139>was, <00:51:13.295>um,

859
00:51:17.045 --> 00:51:19.685
<00:51:17.045>a <00:51:17.200>really <00:51:17.356>good, <00:51:17.511>uh, <00:51:17.667>a <00:51:17.822>really <00:51:17.978>good <00:51:18.133>fit <00:51:18.289>for <00:51:18.445>me

860
00:51:19.825 --> 00:51:23.285
<00:51:19.825>and, <00:51:19.964>um, <00:51:20.105>it <00:51:20.245>opened, <00:51:20.384>uh, <00:51:20.524>my <00:51:20.665>way <00:51:20.805>of <00:51:20.944>thinking <00:51:21.085>a <00:51:21.225>lot,

861
00:51:23.725 --> 00:51:24.885
<00:51:23.725>actually. <00:51:24.769>Yeah.

862
00:51:24.985 --> 00:51:26.365
<00:51:24.985>You <00:51:25.233>talked <00:51:25.481>a <00:51:25.730>lot <00:51:25.978>about <00:51:26.227>agile,

863
00:51:26.365 --> 00:51:29.485
<00:51:26.365>and <00:51:26.492>now <00:51:26.619>remote <00:51:26.746>is <00:51:26.874>also <00:51:27.001>something <00:51:27.128>that <00:51:27.255>is, <00:51:27.383>uh, <00:51:27.510>in <00:51:27.637>the <00:51:27.765>air

864
00:51:29.505 --> 00:51:32.565
<00:51:29.505>and <00:51:29.680>all <00:51:29.855>the <00:51:30.030>companies <00:51:30.205>are <00:51:30.380>shifting <00:51:30.555>between <00:51:30.730>either <00:51:30.905>remote

865
00:51:32.665 --> 00:51:34.445
<00:51:32.665>or <00:51:33.131>hybrid <00:51:33.598>or <00:51:34.065>onsite.

866
00:51:34.785 --> 00:51:36.405
<00:51:34.785>So <00:51:35.018>do <00:51:35.251>you <00:51:35.484>think <00:51:35.718>we <00:51:35.951>should, <00:51:36.185>um,

867
00:51:37.355 --> 00:51:39.165
<00:51:37.355>keep <00:51:37.635>the <00:51:37.915>possibility <00:51:38.195>of <00:51:38.475>working <00:51:38.755>remotely?

868
00:51:39.225 --> 00:51:43.325
<00:51:39.225>How <00:51:39.400>does <00:51:39.575>it <00:51:39.750>contribute <00:51:39.924>to <00:51:40.100>other <00:51:40.275>aspects <00:51:40.450>of, <00:51:40.625>uh,

869
00:51:43.425 --> 00:51:45.285
<00:51:43.425>the <00:51:43.891>software <00:51:44.358>development <00:51:44.825>lifecycle?

870
00:51:46.105 --> 00:51:50.965
<00:51:46.105>Mm-Hmm. <00:51:46.338>Um, <00:51:46.571>I <00:51:46.805>think <00:51:47.038>it's <00:51:47.271>not <00:51:47.505>avoidable

871
00:51:51.385 --> 00:51:53.285
<00:51:51.385>to <00:51:51.735>actually <00:51:52.085>keep <00:51:52.435>working <00:51:52.785>remotely.

872
00:51:53.825 --> 00:51:55.005
<00:51:53.825>Um, <00:51:54.887>I,

873
00:51:55.905 --> 00:51:59.965
<00:51:55.905>but <00:51:56.060>it's <00:51:56.216>also <00:51:56.371>my <00:51:56.527>personal <00:51:56.682>view <00:51:56.838>of <00:51:56.993>I <00:51:57.149>really <00:51:57.305>like

874
00:51:59.965 --> 00:52:01.405
<00:51:59.965>to <00:52:00.289>work <00:52:00.613>in <00:52:00.937>person, <00:52:01.261>actually.

875
00:52:01.545 --> 00:52:04.285
<00:52:01.545>So <00:52:01.720>if <00:52:01.895>you <00:52:02.070>think <00:52:02.245>back <00:52:02.420>of <00:52:02.595>when, <00:52:02.770>when <00:52:02.945>agility

876
00:52:04.545 --> 00:52:07.205
<00:52:04.545>and <00:52:04.720>the <00:52:04.895>whole, <00:52:05.070>um, <00:52:05.245>scrum <00:52:05.420>is <00:52:05.595>an <00:52:05.770>HR <00:52:05.945>framework,

877
00:52:07.305 --> 00:52:11.005
<00:52:07.305>but <00:52:07.432>if <00:52:07.559>you <00:52:07.686>work <00:52:07.814>with <00:52:07.941>Scrum, <00:52:08.068>um, <00:52:08.195>it <00:52:08.323>was <00:52:08.450>often <00:52:08.577>the <00:52:08.705>case

878
00:52:11.005 --> 00:52:14.285
<00:52:11.005>that <00:52:11.132>in <00:52:11.259>the, <00:52:11.386>in <00:52:11.514>the <00:52:11.641>first <00:52:11.768>times <00:52:11.895>there <00:52:12.023>were <00:52:12.150>really <00:52:12.277>this, <00:52:12.405>um,

879
00:52:14.715 --> 00:52:17.645
<00:52:14.715>this <00:52:14.948>physical <00:52:15.181>boards, <00:52:15.415>um, <00:52:15.648>in <00:52:15.881>the <00:52:16.115>offices

880
00:52:17.945 --> 00:52:22.165
<00:52:17.945>and <00:52:18.085>the <00:52:18.225>people <00:52:18.365>didn't, <00:52:18.505>um, <00:52:18.645>uh, <00:52:18.785>shift <00:52:18.925>tickets <00:52:19.065>from <00:52:19.205>one <00:52:19.345>CU

881
00:52:22.305 --> 00:52:24.765
<00:52:22.305>to <00:52:22.538>another <00:52:22.771>by <00:52:23.004>a <00:52:23.238>software <00:52:23.471>or <00:52:23.705>So

882
00:52:24.915 --> 00:52:27.125
<00:52:24.915>They <00:52:25.148>saw <00:52:25.381>it <00:52:25.615>on <00:52:25.848>your <00:52:26.081>presentation. <00:52:26.315>Yeah,

883
00:52:28.075 --> 00:52:29.445
<00:52:28.075>They <00:52:28.486>were <00:52:28.897>real <00:52:29.308>stickies.

884
00:52:29.475 --> 00:52:32.245
<00:52:29.475>Yeah. <00:52:29.708>And, <00:52:29.941>um, <00:52:30.174>I <00:52:30.408>really <00:52:30.641>liked <00:52:30.875>it.

885
00:52:32.405 --> 00:52:35.045
<00:52:32.405>I <00:52:32.638>really <00:52:32.871>liked <00:52:33.105>the <00:52:33.338>feeling <00:52:33.571>of <00:52:33.805>everybody

886
00:52:35.145 --> 00:52:37.925
<00:52:35.145>of <00:52:35.300>the <00:52:35.456>team <00:52:35.611>being <00:52:35.767>in <00:52:35.922>one <00:52:36.078>room <00:52:36.233>and <00:52:36.389>just <00:52:36.545>talking

887
00:52:38.025 --> 00:52:39.445
<00:52:38.025>and <00:52:38.344>connecting <00:52:38.664>and <00:52:38.983>so <00:52:39.303>on.

888
00:52:39.945 --> 00:52:43.845
<00:52:39.945>Um, <00:52:40.100>but <00:52:40.256>it, <00:52:40.411>it, <00:52:40.567>yeah, <00:52:40.722>it <00:52:40.878>has <00:52:41.033>one <00:52:41.189>big <00:52:41.345>disadvantage.

889
00:52:44.305 --> 00:52:47.045
<00:52:44.305>Um, <00:52:44.654>the, <00:52:45.004>the <00:52:45.355>availability <00:52:45.705>and,

890
00:52:47.185 --> 00:52:50.965
<00:52:47.185>and <00:52:47.384>the, <00:52:47.585>it, <00:52:47.785>it <00:52:47.985>just <00:52:48.185>makes <00:52:48.384>it <00:52:48.585>necessary

891
00:52:50.995 --> 00:52:52.605
<00:52:50.995>that <00:52:51.345>everybody's <00:52:51.694>in <00:52:52.045>one <00:52:52.395>place.

892
00:52:53.185 --> 00:52:57.605
<00:52:53.185>And <00:52:53.384>I <00:52:53.585>think, <00:52:53.785>um, <00:52:53.985>I <00:52:54.185>would <00:52:54.384>rather, <00:52:54.585>um,

893
00:52:57.905 --> 00:53:00.165
<00:52:57.905>accept <00:52:58.185>the <00:52:58.465>difficulty <00:52:58.745>of <00:52:59.025>it, <00:52:59.305>um,

894
00:53:00.185 --> 00:53:02.325
<00:53:00.185>of <00:53:00.465>having <00:53:00.745>more <00:53:01.025>people <00:53:01.305>working <00:53:01.585>remotely

895
00:53:02.425 --> 00:53:06.125
<00:53:02.425>and <00:53:02.580>trying <00:53:02.736>to <00:53:02.891>connect <00:53:03.047>them, <00:53:03.202>uh, <00:53:03.358>than <00:53:03.513>miss <00:53:03.669>the <00:53:03.825>opportunity

896
00:53:06.645 --> 00:53:09.915
<00:53:06.645>actually <00:53:06.845>to <00:53:07.045>have <00:53:07.245>more <00:53:07.445>people <00:53:07.645>and <00:53:07.845>different <00:53:08.045>people,

897
00:53:11.055 --> 00:53:12.055
<00:53:11.055>So. <00:53:11.955>Okay.

899
00:53:12.505 --> 00:53:13.955
<00:53:12.505>Yeah. <00:53:12.766>That's <00:53:13.027>great. <00:53:13.288>Uh, <00:53:13.549>thank <00:53:13.810>you

900
00:53:14.115 --> 00:53:15.515
<00:53:14.115>for <00:53:14.366>the, <00:53:14.618>uh, <00:53:14.870>for <00:53:15.123>the <00:53:15.375>answers.

901
00:53:15.615 --> 00:53:16.755
<00:53:15.615>We <00:53:15.871>have <00:53:16.127>one <00:53:16.384>minute <00:53:16.641>left.

902
00:53:16.775 --> 00:53:19.155
<00:53:16.775>And <00:53:16.930>I <00:53:17.086>would <00:53:17.241>like <00:53:17.397>to <00:53:17.552>just <00:53:17.708>real <00:53:17.863>quick <00:53:18.019>ask <00:53:18.175>you,

903
00:53:19.155 --> 00:53:23.155
<00:53:19.155>what <00:53:19.310>would <00:53:19.466>be <00:53:19.621>your <00:53:19.777>advice <00:53:19.932>for <00:53:20.088>young, <00:53:20.243>uh, <00:53:20.399>people, <00:53:20.555>women

904
00:53:23.965 --> 00:53:26.445
<00:53:23.965>maybe, <00:53:24.245>uh, <00:53:24.525>going <00:53:24.805>into <00:53:25.085>software <00:53:25.365>development?

905
00:53:26.515 --> 00:53:29.845
<00:53:26.515>What <00:53:26.690>will <00:53:26.865>help <00:53:27.040>them, <00:53:27.214>um, <00:53:27.390>based <00:53:27.565>on <00:53:27.740>your <00:53:27.915>experience?

906
00:53:31.935 --> 00:53:35.655
<00:53:31.935>I <00:53:32.110>would <00:53:32.285>definitely <00:53:32.460>encourage <00:53:32.634>everybody <00:53:32.810>to <00:53:32.985>try <00:53:33.160>things <00:53:33.335>out.

907
00:53:36.315 --> 00:53:40.975
<00:53:36.315>So <00:53:36.470>there <00:53:36.626>is <00:53:36.781>nothing <00:53:36.937>lost <00:53:37.092>if <00:53:37.248>you, <00:53:37.403>um, <00:53:37.559>use <00:53:37.715>time

908
00:53:41.195 --> 00:53:44.695
<00:53:41.195>and <00:53:41.370>effort <00:53:41.545>to <00:53:41.720>find <00:53:41.895>out <00:53:42.070>what <00:53:42.245>you <00:53:42.420>really <00:53:42.595>want.

909
00:53:45.275 --> 00:53:47.095
<00:53:45.275>So <00:53:45.555>I <00:53:45.835>would <00:53:46.115>really <00:53:46.395>encourage <00:53:46.675>everybody,

910
00:53:47.705 --> 00:53:50.935
<00:53:47.705>don't <00:53:47.904>take <00:53:48.105>everything <00:53:48.305>too <00:53:48.505>serious, <00:53:48.705>leave <00:53:48.904>some <00:53:49.105>space.

911
00:53:51.725 --> 00:53:53.735
<00:53:51.725>Also <00:53:52.191>try <00:53:52.658>new <00:53:53.125>stuff

912
00:53:54.275 --> 00:53:58.455
<00:53:54.275>and <00:53:54.430>look <00:53:54.586>over, <00:53:54.741>over <00:53:54.897>your <00:53:55.052>borders <00:53:55.208>or <00:53:55.363>your <00:53:55.519>limitations <00:53:55.675>and

913
00:53:58.725 --> 00:53:59.725
<00:53:58.725>Okay. <00:53:59.625>Don't

914
00:53:59.725 --> 00:54:02.175
<00:53:59.725>over <00:53:59.924>engineer. <00:54:00.125>Go <00:54:00.325>for <00:54:00.525>it. <00:54:00.725>Thank <00:54:00.924>you, <00:54:01.125>Evelyn.

915
00:54:02.355 --> 00:54:06.535
<00:54:02.355>Uh, <00:54:02.482>I'm <00:54:02.609>delighted <00:54:02.736>to <00:54:02.864>have <00:54:02.991>as <00:54:03.118>a <00:54:03.245>guest, <00:54:03.373>uh, <00:54:03.500>for <00:54:03.627>our <00:54:03.755>audience.

916
00:54:06.805 --> 00:54:09.815
<00:54:06.805>Just <00:54:06.944>feel <00:54:07.085>free <00:54:07.225>to <00:54:07.365>connect <00:54:07.504>with <00:54:07.645>Evelyn <00:54:07.785>since <00:54:07.924>she <00:54:08.065>likes <00:54:08.205>it.

917
00:54:09.915 --> 00:54:11.815
<00:54:09.915>Go <00:54:10.148>find <00:54:10.381>her <00:54:10.615>on <00:54:10.848>LinkedIn, <00:54:11.081>ask <00:54:11.315>questions.

918
00:54:11.815 --> 00:54:13.255
<00:54:11.815>There <00:54:12.000>are <00:54:12.185>a <00:54:12.370>few <00:54:12.555>questions <00:54:12.740>that <00:54:12.925>have <00:54:13.111>left,

919
00:54:13.315 --> 00:54:16.615
<00:54:13.315>but <00:54:13.442>Evelyn, <00:54:13.569>maybe <00:54:13.696>you <00:54:13.824>will, <00:54:13.951>um, <00:54:14.078>be <00:54:14.205>able <00:54:14.333>to <00:54:14.460>get <00:54:14.587>in <00:54:14.715>touch

920
00:54:16.615 --> 00:54:17.935
<00:54:16.615>with <00:54:16.812>the <00:54:17.011>people <00:54:17.209>and <00:54:17.406>to <00:54:17.605>answer <00:54:17.803>those.

921
00:54:18.315 --> 00:54:21.095
<00:54:18.315>And <00:54:18.455>we'll <00:54:18.595>also <00:54:18.735>put <00:54:18.875>them <00:54:19.015>in <00:54:19.155>swap <00:54:19.295>cards <00:54:19.435>so <00:54:19.575>that, <00:54:19.715>um,

922
00:54:21.735 --> 00:54:22.735
<00:54:21.735>probably <00:54:21.915>you <00:54:22.095>can <00:54:22.275>answer <00:54:22.455>your <00:54:22.635>question.

923
00:54:22.735 --> 00:54:25.015
<00:54:22.735>Uh, <00:54:23.015>these <00:54:23.295>questions <00:54:23.575>there. <00:54:23.855>Thank <00:54:24.135>you.

924
00:54:25.275 --> 00:54:26.855
<00:54:25.275>And, <00:54:25.555>uh, <00:54:25.835>have <00:54:26.115>a <00:54:26.395>lovely <00:54:26.675>day.

925
00:54:26.855 --> 00:54:30.055
<00:54:26.855>Stay <00:54:26.995>with <00:54:27.135>us <00:54:27.275>if <00:54:27.415>you <00:54:27.555>want <00:54:27.695>to <00:54:27.835>hear <00:54:27.975>the <00:54:28.115>other <00:54:28.255>speakers.

926
00:54:30.435 --> 00:54:32.415
<00:54:30.435>And, <00:54:31.134>um, <00:54:31.835>goodbye.

927
00:54:33.665 --> 00:54:35.975
<00:54:33.665>Thank <00:54:34.131>you. <00:54:34.598>Goodbye. <00:54:35.065>Good.