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<00:17:53.635>they <00:17:53.790>can <00:17:53.946>help <00:17:54.101>with <00:17:54.257>finding <00:17:54.412>conferences, <00:17:54.568>they <00:17:54.723>can <00:17:54.879>help <00:17:55.035>you

387
00:17:57.005 --> 00:17:58.565
<00:17:57.005>with <00:17:57.285>getting <00:17:57.565>speaking <00:17:57.845>practice <00:17:58.125>as <00:17:58.405>well.

388
00:18:00.195 --> 00:18:03.295
<00:18:00.195>So <00:18:00.370>I <00:18:00.544>was <00:18:00.720>engaged <00:18:00.895>with <00:18:01.070>workshops <00:18:01.245>a <00:18:01.419>little <00:18:01.595>bit

389
00:18:03.555 --> 00:18:05.695
<00:18:03.555>but <00:18:03.710>now <00:18:03.866>I <00:18:04.021>tend <00:18:04.177>to <00:18:04.332>be <00:18:04.488>more <00:18:04.643>on <00:18:04.799>the <00:18:04.955>trying

390
00:18:05.695 --> 00:18:06.855
<00:18:05.695>to <00:18:05.903>help <00:18:06.112>out <00:18:06.321>when <00:18:06.530>I <00:18:06.739>can.

391
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<00:18:07.205>Part <00:18:07.404>of <00:18:07.604>the <00:18:07.803>reason <00:18:08.003>why <00:18:08.202>I'm <00:18:08.402>talking

392
00:18:08.535 --> 00:18:09.735
<00:18:08.535>to <00:18:08.805>you <00:18:09.075>lovely <00:18:09.345>people <00:18:09.615>today.

393
00:18:10.495 --> 00:18:12.475
<00:18:10.495>So <00:18:10.728>look <00:18:10.961>out <00:18:11.195>for <00:18:11.428>things <00:18:11.661>like <00:18:11.895>workshops

394
00:18:12.475 --> 00:18:14.035
<00:18:12.475>and <00:18:12.675>how <00:18:12.875>to <00:18:13.074>prepare <00:18:13.274>and <00:18:13.475>build <00:18:13.675>a <00:18:13.875>talk.

395
00:18:14.665 --> 00:18:16.795
<00:18:14.665>They <00:18:14.840>might <00:18:15.014>be <00:18:15.190>in <00:18:15.365>your <00:18:15.540>own <00:18:15.715>company <00:18:15.889>for <00:18:16.065>example,

396
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<00:18:17.305>certainly <00:18:17.538>large <00:18:17.771>corporates <00:18:18.005>have <00:18:18.238>training <00:18:18.471>on <00:18:18.705>presenting

397
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<00:18:20.075>skills <00:18:20.230>and <00:18:20.386>things <00:18:20.541>where <00:18:20.697>you <00:18:20.852>can <00:18:21.008>try <00:18:21.163>and <00:18:21.319>do <00:18:21.475>this.

398
00:18:23.015 --> 00:18:25.515
<00:18:23.015>It <00:18:23.365>might <00:18:23.715>be <00:18:24.065>external <00:18:24.415>communities.

399
00:18:25.535 --> 00:18:27.635
<00:18:25.535>So <00:18:25.710>I'm <00:18:25.885>a <00:18:26.060>member <00:18:26.235>of <00:18:26.410>both <00:18:26.585>the <00:18:26.760>aspiring <00:18:26.935>speakers

400
00:18:27.635 --> 00:18:30.355
<00:18:27.635>and <00:18:27.810>the <00:18:27.985>aspiring <00:18:28.160>women <00:18:28.335>speakers <00:18:28.510>which <00:18:28.685>run <00:18:28.860>sessions <00:18:29.035>online,

401
00:18:30.535 --> 00:18:34.795
<00:18:30.535>things <00:18:30.710>like <00:18:30.885>speaker <00:18:31.060>clinics, <00:18:31.235>things <00:18:31.410>like <00:18:31.585>Couch <00:18:31.760>to <00:18:31.935>conference

402
00:18:34.795 --> 00:18:36.795
<00:18:34.795>to <00:18:35.028>try <00:18:35.261>and <00:18:35.495>build <00:18:35.728>confidence <00:18:35.961>for <00:18:36.195>people

403
00:18:37.495 --> 00:18:39.515
<00:18:37.495>and <00:18:37.728>also <00:18:37.961>Lightning <00:18:38.195>talks <00:18:38.428>occasionally <00:18:38.661>as <00:18:38.895>well

404
00:18:39.515 --> 00:18:41.075
<00:18:39.515>so <00:18:39.715>you <00:18:39.915>can <00:18:40.115>get <00:18:40.315>an <00:18:40.515>opportunity <00:18:40.715>to <00:18:40.915>practice.

405
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<00:18:42.415>But <00:18:42.590>there's <00:18:42.764>other <00:18:42.940>ones <00:18:43.115>that <00:18:43.290>will <00:18:43.465>come <00:18:43.639>and <00:18:43.815>go.

406
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<00:18:44.765>So <00:18:44.920>my <00:18:45.076>first <00:18:45.231>ever <00:18:45.387>workshop <00:18:45.542>actually <00:18:45.698>gave <00:18:45.853>me <00:18:46.009>the <00:18:46.165>bug

407
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<00:18:47.725>to <00:18:47.852>say <00:18:47.979>I <00:18:48.106>can <00:18:48.234>do <00:18:48.361>this <00:18:48.488>was <00:18:48.615>in <00:18:48.743>fact <00:18:48.870>global <00:18:48.997>diversity, <00:18:49.125>CFPD.

408
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<00:18:52.115>Sadly <00:18:52.424>not <00:18:52.733>there <00:18:53.042>anymore,

409
00:18:53.205 --> 00:18:55.145
<00:18:53.205>but <00:18:53.379>it <00:18:53.554>was <00:18:53.730>sessions <00:18:53.905>were <00:18:54.080>run <00:18:54.254>across <00:18:54.429>the <00:18:54.605>world

410
00:18:55.795 --> 00:18:58.985
<00:18:55.795>where <00:18:55.950>we <00:18:56.106>worked <00:18:56.261>on <00:18:56.417>how <00:18:56.572>to <00:18:56.728>write <00:18:56.883>our <00:18:57.039>first <00:18:57.195>abstracts,

411
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<00:18:58.985>how <00:18:59.309>to <00:18:59.633>find <00:18:59.957>topics.

412
00:19:00.765 --> 00:19:03.625
<00:19:00.765>And <00:19:00.940>we <00:19:01.115>also <00:19:01.290>talked <00:19:01.465>about, <00:19:01.640>you <00:19:01.815>know, <00:19:01.990>the <00:19:02.165>things

413
00:19:03.625 --> 00:19:04.785
<00:19:03.625>that <00:19:03.833>you <00:19:04.042>think <00:19:04.251>about <00:19:04.460>like <00:19:04.669>Q

414
00:19:04.785 --> 00:19:06.865
<00:19:04.785>and <00:19:04.985>a, <00:19:05.185>which <00:19:05.385>some <00:19:05.585>of <00:19:05.785>which <00:19:05.985>these <00:19:06.185>learnings

415
00:19:06.865 --> 00:19:07.945
<00:19:06.865>are <00:19:07.108>in <00:19:07.351>this, <00:19:07.594>this <00:19:07.837>talk.

416
00:19:09.785 --> 00:19:11.805
<00:19:09.785>The <00:19:10.018>other <00:19:10.251>thing <00:19:10.485>is <00:19:10.718>mentors <00:19:10.951>are <00:19:11.185>important.

417
00:19:13.665 --> 00:19:14.865
<00:19:13.665>I <00:19:13.845>know <00:19:14.025>it <00:19:14.205>sounds <00:19:14.385>weird <00:19:14.565>to <00:19:14.745>say,

418
00:19:14.885 --> 00:19:17.025
<00:19:14.885>but <00:19:15.085>I <00:19:15.285>don't <00:19:15.485>think <00:19:15.685>we <00:19:15.885>leverage <00:19:16.085>mentorship <00:19:16.285>enough

419
00:19:17.085 --> 00:19:18.625
<00:19:17.085>for <00:19:17.258>soft <00:19:17.431>skills <00:19:17.604>quite <00:19:17.778>a <00:19:17.951>lot <00:19:18.124>of <00:19:18.297>the <00:19:18.471>time.

420
00:19:19.125 --> 00:19:21.625
<00:19:19.125>My <00:19:19.405>experience <00:19:19.685>of <00:19:19.965>being <00:19:20.245>an <00:19:20.525>engineer

421
00:19:21.685 --> 00:19:23.465
<00:19:21.685>and <00:19:21.840>even <00:19:21.996>now <00:19:22.151>as <00:19:22.307>an <00:19:22.462>advocate <00:19:22.618>is <00:19:22.773>that <00:19:22.929>we <00:19:23.085>tend

422
00:19:23.465 --> 00:19:26.705
<00:19:23.465>to <00:19:23.665>seek <00:19:23.865>out <00:19:24.064>mentorship <00:19:24.264>for <00:19:24.465>you <00:19:24.665>know, <00:19:24.865>trying

423
00:19:26.705 --> 00:19:28.785
<00:19:26.705>to <00:19:26.938>help <00:19:27.171>navigate <00:19:27.405>promotion <00:19:27.638>processes <00:19:27.871>to <00:19:28.105>get

424
00:19:28.785 --> 00:19:29.985
<00:19:28.785>that <00:19:29.145>next <00:19:29.504>big <00:19:29.865>promotion

425
00:19:30.805 --> 00:19:34.505
<00:19:30.805>or <00:19:30.960>for <00:19:31.116>other <00:19:31.271>things <00:19:31.427>like <00:19:31.582>you <00:19:31.738>know, <00:19:31.893>technical <00:19:32.049>skills <00:19:32.205>again,

426
00:19:34.805 --> 00:19:37.505
<00:19:34.805>um, <00:19:35.005>we <00:19:35.205>can <00:19:35.405>use <00:19:35.605>them <00:19:35.805>for <00:19:36.005>speaking <00:19:36.205>too

427
00:19:38.285 --> 00:19:40.945
<00:19:38.285>and <00:19:38.412>in <00:19:38.539>fact <00:19:38.666>it <00:19:38.794>was <00:19:38.921>a <00:19:39.048>mentor <00:19:39.175>of <00:19:39.303>mine <00:19:39.430>that <00:19:39.557>was <00:19:39.685>pivotal

428
00:19:41.405 --> 00:19:43.185
<00:19:41.405>and <00:19:41.545>it <00:19:41.685>was <00:19:41.825>probably <00:19:41.965>part <00:19:42.105>of <00:19:42.245>the <00:19:42.385>reason <00:19:42.524>I'm <00:19:42.665>still <00:19:42.805>here,

429
00:19:43.235 --> 00:19:45.665
<00:19:43.235>still <00:19:43.409>speaking <00:19:43.584>and <00:19:43.760>still <00:19:43.935>talking <00:19:44.110>to <00:19:44.284>you <00:19:44.459>people <00:19:44.635>today.

430
00:19:45.665 --> 00:19:48.025
<00:19:45.665>Lovely <00:19:46.014>people <00:19:46.365>today <00:19:46.715>because <00:19:47.065>Jim

431
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<00:19:48.025>helped <00:19:48.229>me <00:19:48.433>with <00:19:48.637>a <00:19:48.841>lot <00:19:49.045>of <00:19:49.249>things.

432
00:19:50.125 --> 00:19:51.825
<00:19:50.125>Jim <00:19:50.591>would <00:19:51.058>review <00:19:51.525>abstracts,

433
00:19:52.125 --> 00:19:55.545
<00:19:52.125>Jim <00:19:52.265>would <00:19:52.405>address <00:19:52.545>any <00:19:52.685>fears <00:19:52.825>I <00:19:52.965>had <00:19:53.105>around <00:19:53.245>being <00:19:53.385>a <00:19:53.525>speaker.

434
00:19:55.805 --> 00:19:58.185
<00:19:55.805>The <00:19:55.960>fact <00:19:56.116>same <00:19:56.271>things <00:19:56.427>I've <00:19:56.582>been <00:19:56.738>talking <00:19:56.893>to <00:19:57.049>you <00:19:57.205>about

435
00:19:58.855 --> 00:20:01.025
<00:19:58.855>knowledge, <00:19:59.555>about <00:20:00.255>presence,

436
00:20:01.025 --> 00:20:03.505
<00:20:01.025>about <00:20:01.225>role <00:20:01.425>models, <00:20:01.625>all <00:20:01.825>those <00:20:02.025>kinds <00:20:02.225>of <00:20:02.425>things.

437
00:20:03.885 --> 00:20:05.745
<00:20:03.885>And <00:20:04.040>he <00:20:04.196>made <00:20:04.351>it <00:20:04.507>seem <00:20:04.662>like <00:20:04.818>I <00:20:04.973>could <00:20:05.129>do <00:20:05.285>this,

438
00:20:05.795 --> 00:20:07.105
<00:20:05.795>which <00:20:06.030>I <00:20:06.266>can <00:20:06.502>and <00:20:06.738>I'm <00:20:06.974>doing.

439
00:20:08.305 --> 00:20:09.525
<00:20:08.305>And <00:20:08.579>he <00:20:08.854>also <00:20:09.128>introduced <00:20:09.403>me

440
00:20:09.525 --> 00:20:11.085
<00:20:09.525>to <00:20:09.758>communities <00:20:09.991>that <00:20:10.225>could <00:20:10.458>help <00:20:10.691>me <00:20:10.925>out.

441
00:20:13.675 --> 00:20:15.415
<00:20:13.675>And <00:20:13.875>that's <00:20:14.075>one <00:20:14.274>of <00:20:14.475>the <00:20:14.675>most <00:20:14.875>important <00:20:15.075>thing.

442
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<00:20:15.735>A <00:20:15.890>lot <00:20:16.046>of <00:20:16.201>the <00:20:16.357>skills <00:20:16.512>that <00:20:16.668>we <00:20:16.823>learn <00:20:16.979>as <00:20:17.135>technologists

443
00:20:18.635 --> 00:20:21.055
<00:20:18.635>or <00:20:18.835>people <00:20:19.035>working <00:20:19.235>in <00:20:19.435>the <00:20:19.635>tech <00:20:19.835>industry <00:20:20.035>generally,

444
00:20:22.135 --> 00:20:25.905
<00:20:22.135>they're <00:20:22.335>not <00:20:22.535>necessarily <00:20:22.735>always <00:20:22.935>found <00:20:23.135>from <00:20:23.335>our <00:20:23.535>day-to-Day.

445
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<00:20:26.625>Building <00:20:26.905>out <00:20:27.185>stories, <00:20:27.465>doing <00:20:27.745>those <00:20:28.025>designs,

446
00:20:29.945 --> 00:20:32.065
<00:20:29.945>facilitating <00:20:30.294>whichever <00:20:30.645>meetings <00:20:30.995>we're <00:20:31.345>doing.

447
00:20:32.075 --> 00:20:33.145
<00:20:32.075>Being <00:20:32.396>the <00:20:32.717>scrum <00:20:33.038>master

448
00:20:33.445 --> 00:20:34.945
<00:20:33.445>and <00:20:33.613>making <00:20:33.782>sure <00:20:33.951>the <00:20:34.120>board <00:20:34.288>is <00:20:34.457>up <00:20:34.626>to <00:20:34.794>date

449
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<00:20:36.415>community <00:20:36.764>really <00:20:37.115>can <00:20:37.465>help <00:20:37.815>us

450
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<00:20:38.105>because <00:20:38.366>we <00:20:38.627>can <00:20:38.888>find <00:20:39.149>people

451
00:20:39.415 --> 00:20:41.305
<00:20:39.415>that <00:20:39.590>are <00:20:39.764>in <00:20:39.940>the <00:20:40.115>same <00:20:40.290>stage <00:20:40.465>as <00:20:40.639>the <00:20:40.815>journey.

452
00:20:41.405 --> 00:20:42.465
<00:20:41.405>So <00:20:41.882>it's <00:20:42.359>relatable

453
00:20:42.525 --> 00:20:45.505
<00:20:42.525>and <00:20:42.652>it <00:20:42.779>means <00:20:42.906>that <00:20:43.034>we <00:20:43.161>can <00:20:43.288>talk <00:20:43.415>in <00:20:43.543>confidence <00:20:43.670>about <00:20:43.797>the <00:20:43.925>things

454
00:20:45.505 --> 00:20:47.065
<00:20:45.505>that <00:20:45.855>are <00:20:46.205>scar <00:20:46.555>us <00:20:46.905>but,

455
00:20:47.785 --> 00:20:50.805
<00:20:47.785>but <00:20:47.960>we <00:20:48.135>can <00:20:48.310>also <00:20:48.485>find <00:20:48.660>things <00:20:48.835>like <00:20:49.010>bounce <00:20:49.185>topic

456
00:20:50.935 --> 00:20:52.205
<00:20:50.935>ideas <00:20:51.220>off <00:20:51.506>of <00:20:51.792>each <00:20:52.078>other.

457
00:20:53.785 --> 00:20:56.045
<00:20:53.785>So <00:20:53.912>if <00:20:54.039>you're <00:20:54.166>a <00:20:54.294>member <00:20:54.421>of <00:20:54.548>a <00:20:54.675>meetup <00:20:54.803>group <00:20:54.930>at <00:20:55.057>the <00:20:55.185>moment

458
00:20:56.265 --> 00:20:58.645
<00:20:56.265>and <00:20:56.440>you <00:20:56.615>have <00:20:56.790>not <00:20:56.965>had <00:20:57.140>the <00:20:57.315>courage <00:20:57.490>to <00:20:57.665>speak,

459
00:20:59.555 --> 00:21:01.125
<00:20:59.555>have <00:20:59.835>a <00:21:00.115>chat <00:21:00.395>with <00:21:00.675>the <00:21:00.955>organizer.

460
00:21:01.855 --> 00:21:04.315
<00:21:01.855>Meetup <00:21:02.088>organizers <00:21:02.321>are <00:21:02.555>always <00:21:02.788>looking <00:21:03.021>for <00:21:03.255>people

461
00:21:04.315 --> 00:21:05.395
<00:21:04.315>to <00:21:04.639>volunteer <00:21:04.963>to <00:21:05.287>speak.

462
00:21:05.745 --> 00:21:07.515
<00:21:05.745>It's <00:21:05.945>a <00:21:06.145>bit <00:21:06.344>of <00:21:06.544>a <00:21:06.745>hard <00:21:06.945>gig <00:21:07.145>trying

463
00:21:07.515 --> 00:21:08.835
<00:21:07.515>to <00:21:07.684>find <00:21:07.854>speakers <00:21:08.024>a <00:21:08.193>lot <00:21:08.363>of <00:21:08.533>the <00:21:08.703>time.

464
00:21:09.315 --> 00:21:10.955
<00:21:09.315>I <00:21:09.515>know <00:21:09.715>this <00:21:09.915>since <00:21:10.115>I <00:21:10.315>run <00:21:10.515>Elastic <00:21:10.715>London.

465
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<00:21:12.405>But <00:21:12.754>it's <00:21:13.105>absolutely <00:21:13.455>an <00:21:13.805>opportunity

466
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467
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468
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469
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470
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471
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472
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473
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474
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475
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476
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477
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478
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479
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480
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481
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482
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483
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484
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485
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486
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487
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488
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489
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490
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491
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492
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493
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494
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495
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496
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497
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498
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499
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500
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501
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502
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<00:22:45.215>it's <00:22:45.457>necessarily <00:22:45.701>going <00:22:45.944>to <00:22:46.187>work.

503
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504
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505
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506
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507
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508
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509
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510
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511
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512
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513
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514
00:23:21.535 --> 00:23:23.835
<00:23:21.535>to <00:23:21.675>the <00:23:21.815>the <00:23:21.955>nearest <00:23:22.095>conference <00:23:22.235>center, <00:23:22.375>get <00:23:22.515>up <00:23:22.655>on <00:23:22.795>the <00:23:22.935>stage

515
00:23:23.835 --> 00:23:24.835
<00:23:23.835>and <00:23:24.060>start <00:23:24.285>talking <00:23:24.510>at <00:23:24.735>people.

516
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517
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518
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519
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520
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521
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522
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523
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524
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525
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526
00:23:54.405 --> 00:23:56.605
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527
00:23:56.665 --> 00:23:59.245
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528
00:23:59.245 --> 00:24:02.765
<00:23:59.245>to <00:23:59.372>do <00:23:59.499>in <00:23:59.626>initially <00:23:59.754>because <00:23:59.881>you <00:24:00.008>want <00:24:00.135>to <00:24:00.263>say <00:24:00.390>all <00:24:00.517>the <00:24:00.645>things

529
00:24:03.065 --> 00:24:06.805
<00:24:03.065>but <00:24:03.220>you <00:24:03.376>obviously <00:24:03.531>have <00:24:03.687>to <00:24:03.842>keep <00:24:03.998>your <00:24:04.153>idea <00:24:04.309>very <00:24:04.465>specific.

530
00:24:07.825 --> 00:24:11.285
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531
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532
00:24:16.565 --> 00:24:17.625
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533
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534
00:24:21.085 --> 00:24:22.965
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535
00:24:23.385 --> 00:24:24.605
<00:24:23.385>and <00:24:23.604>you <00:24:23.824>get <00:24:24.043>to <00:24:24.263>20 <00:24:24.483>minutes.

536
00:24:24.785 --> 00:24:26.685
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537
00:24:27.755 --> 00:24:31.575
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538
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539
00:24:32.935 --> 00:24:35.215
<00:24:32.935>full-time <00:24:33.135>conference <00:24:33.335>docs <00:24:33.534>are <00:24:33.735>sitting <00:24:33.935>around <00:24:34.135>20 <00:24:34.335>minutes.

540
00:24:36.725 --> 00:24:39.895
<00:24:36.725>Keep <00:24:37.004>going <00:24:37.284>25 <00:24:37.564>30, <00:24:37.844>35, <00:24:38.125>40.

541
00:24:40.315 --> 00:24:42.655
<00:24:40.315>If <00:24:40.470>you <00:24:40.626>get <00:24:40.781>to <00:24:40.937>40 <00:24:41.092>you're <00:24:41.248>at, <00:24:41.403>we <00:24:41.559>are <00:24:41.715>developers,

542
00:24:42.765 --> 00:24:45.775
<00:24:42.765>this <00:24:42.872>is <00:24:42.980>the <00:24:43.088>40, <00:24:43.195>40 <00:24:43.303>minute <00:24:43.411>slot <00:24:43.518>plus <00:24:43.626>q <00:24:43.734>and <00:24:43.841>a <00:24:43.949>at <00:24:44.057>the <00:24:44.165>end.

543
00:24:47.185 --> 00:24:50.275
<00:24:47.185>Then <00:24:47.312>if <00:24:47.439>I <00:24:47.566>keep <00:24:47.694>going <00:24:47.821>to <00:24:47.948>50 <00:24:48.075>minutes, <00:24:48.203>I'm <00:24:48.330>at <00:24:48.457>DevOps <00:24:48.585>uk.

544
00:24:50.775 --> 00:24:52.795
<00:24:50.775>That's <00:24:51.055>a <00:24:51.335>50 <00:24:51.615>minute <00:24:51.895>slot. <00:24:52.175>Okay?

545
00:24:53.335 --> 00:24:55.395
<00:24:53.335>So <00:24:53.568>it's <00:24:53.801>just <00:24:54.035>about <00:24:54.268>increasing <00:24:54.501>the <00:24:54.735>time

546
00:24:55.425 --> 00:24:58.795
<00:24:55.425>because <00:24:55.552>what <00:24:55.679>you'll <00:24:55.806>find <00:24:55.934>is <00:24:56.061>every <00:24:56.188>time <00:24:56.315>you <00:24:56.443>do <00:24:56.570>a <00:24:56.697>talk <00:24:56.825>you'll

547
00:24:58.795 --> 00:25:01.475
<00:24:58.795>be <00:24:58.970>super <00:24:59.145>nervous, <00:24:59.320>you'll <00:24:59.495>feel <00:24:59.670>it <00:24:59.845>in <00:25:00.020>your <00:25:00.195>stomach,

548
00:25:01.495 --> 00:25:03.235
<00:25:01.495>you'll <00:25:01.774>get <00:25:02.054>the <00:25:02.334>butterflies, <00:25:02.614>you'll <00:25:02.895>start,

549
00:25:03.295 --> 00:25:06.195
<00:25:03.295>you <00:25:03.450>might <00:25:03.606>have <00:25:03.761>shakes, <00:25:03.917>you <00:25:04.072>might <00:25:04.228>be <00:25:04.383>talking <00:25:04.539>very <00:25:04.695>quickly,

550
00:25:07.255 --> 00:25:09.755
<00:25:07.255>but <00:25:07.410>if <00:25:07.566>you <00:25:07.721>keep <00:25:07.877>going <00:25:08.032>it <00:25:08.188>tends <00:25:08.343>to <00:25:08.499>ease <00:25:08.655>off.

551
00:25:10.055 --> 00:25:12.115
<00:25:10.055>So <00:25:10.288>building <00:25:10.521>up <00:25:10.755>that <00:25:10.988>tolerance <00:25:11.221>is <00:25:11.455>key.

552
00:25:13.765 --> 00:25:16.065
<00:25:13.765>The <00:25:13.892>next <00:25:14.019>thing <00:25:14.146>is <00:25:14.274>think <00:25:14.401>about <00:25:14.528>the <00:25:14.655>forums <00:25:14.783>in <00:25:14.910>which <00:25:15.037>you <00:25:15.165>get

553
00:25:16.065 --> 00:25:19.545
<00:25:16.065>to <00:25:16.205>speak <00:25:16.345>because <00:25:16.485>ones <00:25:16.625>where <00:25:16.765>people <00:25:16.905>are <00:25:17.045>maybe <00:25:17.185>not <00:25:17.325>the <00:25:17.465>back

554
00:25:19.545 --> 00:25:22.825
<00:25:19.545>of <00:25:19.661>line <00:25:19.778>staring <00:25:19.895>at <00:25:20.011>you <00:25:20.128>might <00:25:20.245>be <00:25:20.361>a <00:25:20.478>good <00:25:20.595>way <00:25:20.711>in <00:25:20.828>as <00:25:20.945>well.

555
00:25:24.065 --> 00:25:27.925
<00:25:24.065>So <00:25:24.205>if <00:25:24.345>I <00:25:24.485>think <00:25:24.625>about <00:25:24.765>it, <00:25:24.905>I <00:25:25.045>had <00:25:25.185>to <00:25:25.325>do <00:25:25.465>presentations

556
00:25:28.705 --> 00:25:30.365
<00:25:28.705>as <00:25:28.905>part <00:25:29.105>of <00:25:29.304>my <00:25:29.504>job <00:25:29.705>as <00:25:29.905>an <00:25:30.105>engineer

557
00:25:30.365 --> 00:25:31.565
<00:25:30.365>when <00:25:30.581>it <00:25:30.797>came <00:25:31.013>to <00:25:31.229>sprint <00:25:31.445>reviews.

558
00:25:31.745 --> 00:25:34.125
<00:25:31.745>So <00:25:31.885>I <00:25:32.024>was <00:25:32.165>the <00:25:32.304>front <00:25:32.445>end <00:25:32.584>engineer, <00:25:32.725>which <00:25:32.864>meant <00:25:33.004>a <00:25:33.145>lot

559
00:25:34.125 --> 00:25:36.005
<00:25:34.125>of <00:25:34.265>the <00:25:34.405>time <00:25:34.545>I <00:25:34.685>was <00:25:34.825>demoing <00:25:34.965>the <00:25:35.105>new <00:25:35.245>features <00:25:35.385>at <00:25:35.525>the

560
00:25:36.005 --> 00:25:37.045
<00:25:36.005>end <00:25:36.192>of <00:25:36.379>the <00:25:36.566>sprint <00:25:36.753>to <00:25:36.941>users.

561
00:25:37.725 --> 00:25:39.765
<00:25:37.725>'cause <00:25:37.852>we <00:25:37.979>would <00:25:38.106>always <00:25:38.234>have <00:25:38.361>a <00:25:38.488>demo <00:25:38.615>as <00:25:38.743>part <00:25:38.870>of <00:25:38.997>that <00:25:39.125>review.

562
00:25:41.105 --> 00:25:43.685
<00:25:41.105>Now <00:25:41.245>what <00:25:41.385>would <00:25:41.525>happen <00:25:41.665>is <00:25:41.805>I <00:25:41.945>would <00:25:42.085>be <00:25:42.225>sharing <00:25:42.365>my <00:25:42.505>screen,

563
00:25:44.105 --> 00:25:46.645
<00:25:44.105>we <00:25:44.245>were <00:25:44.385>all <00:25:44.525>hopping <00:25:44.665>on <00:25:44.805>a <00:25:44.945>conference <00:25:45.085>calls <00:25:45.225>'cause <00:25:45.365>this <00:25:45.505>was

564
00:25:46.645 --> 00:25:48.045
<00:25:46.645>because <00:25:46.960>this <00:25:47.275>was <00:25:47.590>before <00:25:47.905>video

565
00:25:48.045 --> 00:25:49.285
<00:25:48.045>calling <00:25:48.268>was <00:25:48.491>really <00:25:48.714>a <00:25:48.937>big <00:25:49.161>thing.

566
00:25:50.475 --> 00:25:52.855
<00:25:50.475>And <00:25:50.630>I <00:25:50.786>would <00:25:50.941>be <00:25:51.097>sharing <00:25:51.252>my <00:25:51.408>screen, <00:25:51.563>showing <00:25:51.719>the <00:25:51.875>features

567
00:25:52.855 --> 00:25:54.855
<00:25:52.855>as <00:25:52.982>I <00:25:53.109>go <00:25:53.236>and <00:25:53.364>I <00:25:53.491>would <00:25:53.618>actually <00:25:53.745>have <00:25:53.873>notes <00:25:54.000>next <00:25:54.127>to <00:25:54.255>me

568
00:25:55.205 --> 00:25:58.455
<00:25:55.205>that <00:25:55.360>would <00:25:55.516>say <00:25:55.671>what <00:25:55.827>particular <00:25:55.982>things <00:25:56.138>I <00:25:56.293>needed <00:25:56.449>to <00:25:56.605>cover.

569
00:25:59.315 --> 00:26:00.895
<00:25:59.315>And <00:25:59.548>that <00:25:59.781>is <00:26:00.015>a <00:26:00.248>form <00:26:00.481>of <00:26:00.715>presenting.

570
00:26:01.595 --> 00:26:03.895
<00:26:01.595>It <00:26:01.770>can <00:26:01.945>be <00:26:02.120>conference <00:26:02.295>talks, <00:26:02.470>it <00:26:02.645>can <00:26:02.820>be <00:26:02.995>them,

571
00:26:04.035 --> 00:26:06.015
<00:26:04.035>it <00:26:04.210>could <00:26:04.385>be <00:26:04.560>lunch <00:26:04.735>and <00:26:04.910>learns <00:26:05.085>in <00:26:05.260>your <00:26:05.435>work.

572
00:26:06.245 --> 00:26:09.295
<00:26:06.245>It's <00:26:06.372>all <00:26:06.499>about <00:26:06.626>finding <00:26:06.754>a <00:26:06.881>forum <00:26:07.008>to <00:26:07.135>start <00:26:07.263>and <00:26:07.390>build <00:26:07.517>up <00:26:07.645>on

573
00:26:09.915 --> 00:26:11.775
<00:26:09.915>and <00:26:10.115>increase <00:26:10.315>things <00:26:10.514>like <00:26:10.715>the <00:26:10.915>number <00:26:11.115>of <00:26:11.315>people,

574
00:26:12.255 --> 00:26:13.775
<00:26:12.255>increase <00:26:12.528>the <00:26:12.802>pressure, <00:26:13.075>increase <00:26:13.349>the <00:26:13.623>time.

575
00:26:14.835 --> 00:26:17.455
<00:26:14.835>So <00:26:14.975>from <00:26:15.115>these <00:26:15.255>phone <00:26:15.395>reviews, <00:26:15.535>I <00:26:15.675>ended <00:26:15.815>up <00:26:15.955>doing <00:26:16.095>a <00:26:16.235>lot

576
00:26:17.455 --> 00:26:21.175
<00:26:17.455>of <00:26:17.655>online <00:26:17.855>sessions <00:26:18.054>through <00:26:18.254>the <00:26:18.455>pandemic <00:26:18.655>through <00:26:18.855>LGC

577
00:26:21.195 --> 00:26:24.095
<00:26:21.195>and <00:26:21.335>then <00:26:21.475>through <00:26:21.615>these <00:26:21.754>speaker <00:26:21.895>groups <00:26:22.034>later <00:26:22.175>on <00:26:22.314>doing <00:26:22.455>a <00:26:22.595>lot

578
00:26:24.095 --> 00:26:26.375
<00:26:24.095>of <00:26:24.270>lightning <00:26:24.445>talks <00:26:24.620>and <00:26:24.795>then <00:26:24.970>building <00:26:25.145>some <00:26:25.320>longer <00:26:25.495>slots.

579
00:26:27.375 --> 00:26:30.255
<00:26:27.375>I <00:26:27.530>then <00:26:27.686>did <00:26:27.841>my <00:26:27.997>first <00:26:28.152>in-person <00:26:28.308>meetup, <00:26:28.463>which <00:26:28.619>was <00:26:28.775>terrifying

580
00:26:30.255 --> 00:26:33.695
<00:26:30.255>because <00:26:30.430>it <00:26:30.605>introduced <00:26:30.780>me <00:26:30.955>to <00:26:31.130>peripherals <00:26:31.305>such <00:26:31.480>as <00:26:31.655>microphones

581
00:26:33.695 --> 00:26:37.895
<00:26:33.695>and <00:26:33.850>things <00:26:34.006>I <00:26:34.161>didn't <00:26:34.317>really <00:26:34.472>think <00:26:34.628>about <00:26:34.783>but <00:26:34.939>I <00:26:35.095>survived.

582
00:26:37.955 --> 00:26:40.735
<00:26:37.955>And <00:26:38.095>then <00:26:38.235>I <00:26:38.375>made <00:26:38.514>it <00:26:38.655>onto <00:26:38.794>to <00:26:38.935>film <00:26:39.074>large <00:26:39.215>conferences <00:26:39.355>including

583
00:26:40.735 --> 00:26:42.295
<00:26:40.735>this <00:26:41.201>wonderful <00:26:41.668>conference <00:26:42.135>today.

584
00:26:44.215 --> 00:26:45.765
<00:26:44.215>Today. <00:26:44.447>But <00:26:44.680>it's <00:26:44.912>also <00:26:45.145>around <00:26:45.377>the <00:26:45.610>topics

585
00:26:46.825 --> 00:26:48.925
<00:26:46.825>we <00:26:47.000>talked <00:26:47.175>about <00:26:47.350>the <00:26:47.525>idea <00:26:47.700>of <00:26:47.875>being <00:26:48.050>technical <00:26:48.225>enough

586
00:26:48.925 --> 00:26:50.605
<00:26:48.925>and <00:26:49.158>the <00:26:49.391>idea <00:26:49.625>of <00:26:49.858>thinking <00:26:50.091>about <00:26:50.325>topics

587
00:26:50.795 --> 00:26:52.485
<00:26:50.795>that <00:26:51.145>we're <00:26:51.495>comfortable <00:26:51.845>talking <00:26:52.195>about.

588
00:26:54.805 --> 00:26:58.765
<00:26:54.805>I <00:26:54.980>didn't <00:26:55.155>start <00:26:55.330>by <00:26:55.505>talking <00:26:55.680>about <00:26:55.855>nitty <00:26:56.030>gritty <00:26:56.205>technical

589
00:26:58.765 --> 00:27:01.565
<00:26:58.765>things <00:26:58.920>and <00:26:59.076>I <00:26:59.231>don't <00:26:59.387>always <00:26:59.542>talk <00:26:59.698>about <00:26:59.853>nitty <00:27:00.009>gritty <00:27:00.165>technical

590
00:27:01.565 --> 00:27:05.205
<00:27:01.565>things <00:27:01.720>as <00:27:01.876>part <00:27:02.031>of <00:27:02.187>my <00:27:02.342>job <00:27:02.498>as <00:27:02.653>an <00:27:02.809>advocate <00:27:02.965>certainly.

591
00:27:05.545 --> 00:27:07.765
<00:27:05.545>But <00:27:05.745>I <00:27:05.945>started <00:27:06.145>off <00:27:06.345>talking <00:27:06.545>about <00:27:06.745>tech <00:27:06.945>learning.

592
00:27:08.225 --> 00:27:10.885
<00:27:08.225>I'd <00:27:08.380>just <00:27:08.536>came <00:27:08.691>back <00:27:08.847>from <00:27:09.002>maternity <00:27:09.158>leave <00:27:09.313>when <00:27:09.469>I <00:27:09.625>started

593
00:27:10.885 --> 00:27:12.525
<00:27:10.885>wanting <00:27:11.118>to <00:27:11.351>do <00:27:11.585>speaking <00:27:11.818>and <00:27:12.051>that <00:27:12.285>was

594
00:27:12.525 --> 00:27:13.645
<00:27:12.525>what <00:27:12.693>I <00:27:12.861>knew <00:27:13.029>about <00:27:13.197>at <00:27:13.365>the <00:27:13.533>time

595
00:27:13.875 --> 00:27:15.765
<00:27:13.875>because <00:27:14.075>it <00:27:14.275>was <00:27:14.475>based <00:27:14.675>on <00:27:14.875>my <00:27:15.075>own <00:27:15.275>experience.

596
00:27:16.975 --> 00:27:18.075
<00:27:16.975>And <00:27:17.173>then <00:27:17.370>because <00:27:17.569>I <00:27:17.767>came <00:27:17.965>back

597
00:27:18.075 --> 00:27:20.275
<00:27:18.075>and <00:27:18.250>I <00:27:18.425>had <00:27:18.600>a <00:27:18.775>lot <00:27:18.950>more <00:27:19.125>scrum <00:27:19.300>master <00:27:19.475>responsibilities,

598
00:27:20.425 --> 00:27:24.035
<00:27:20.425>when <00:27:20.565>I <00:27:20.705>came <00:27:20.845>back <00:27:20.985>I <00:27:21.125>started <00:27:21.264>talking <00:27:21.405>about <00:27:21.544>topics <00:27:21.685>on <00:27:21.825>agility

599
00:27:25.005 --> 00:27:28.305
<00:27:25.005>and <00:27:25.145>I <00:27:25.285>used <00:27:25.425>my <00:27:25.565>experiences <00:27:25.705>to <00:27:25.845>present <00:27:25.985>case <00:27:26.125>studies <00:27:26.265>of <00:27:26.405>things

600
00:27:28.305 --> 00:27:30.145
<00:27:28.305>that <00:27:28.480>had <00:27:28.655>worked <00:27:28.830>and <00:27:29.005>not <00:27:29.180>worked <00:27:29.355>for <00:27:29.530>our <00:27:29.705>team.

601
00:27:30.965 --> 00:27:35.425
<00:27:30.965>And <00:27:31.105>that <00:27:31.245>led <00:27:31.385>me <00:27:31.524>into <00:27:31.665>meeting <00:27:31.804>wonderful <00:27:31.945>people <00:27:32.084>at <00:27:32.225>Lean <00:27:32.365>Agile

602
00:27:35.425 --> 00:27:37.865
<00:27:35.425>conferences, <00:27:35.580>one <00:27:35.736>of <00:27:35.891>which <00:27:36.047>lean <00:27:36.202>Agile <00:27:36.358>Scotland <00:27:36.513>has <00:27:36.669>an <00:27:36.825>open

603
00:27:38.025 --> 00:27:39.025
<00:27:38.025>CFP <00:27:38.475>until <00:27:38.925>Monday.

604
00:27:40.365 --> 00:27:43.025
<00:27:40.365>And <00:27:40.598>then <00:27:40.831>there's <00:27:41.065>also <00:27:41.298>technologies <00:27:41.531>and <00:27:41.765>frameworks.

605
00:27:43.025 --> 00:27:45.585
<00:27:43.025>So <00:27:43.180>when <00:27:43.336>I <00:27:43.491>transitioned <00:27:43.647>back <00:27:43.802>into <00:27:43.958>being <00:27:44.113>an <00:27:44.269>engineer <00:27:44.425>again

606
00:27:46.145 --> 00:27:48.305
<00:27:46.145>I <00:27:46.345>started <00:27:46.545>talking <00:27:46.745>about <00:27:46.945>things <00:27:47.145>like <00:27:47.345>behavior <00:27:47.545>driven

607
00:27:48.305 --> 00:27:50.585
<00:27:48.305>development, <00:27:48.585>started <00:27:48.865>talking <00:27:49.145>about <00:27:49.425>end-to-end <00:27:49.705>testing,

608
00:27:51.375 --> 00:27:53.665
<00:27:51.375>Elasticsearch <00:27:51.550>and <00:27:51.725>all <00:27:51.900>these <00:27:52.075>other <00:27:52.250>things <00:27:52.425>I <00:27:52.600>was <00:27:52.775>using.

609
00:27:55.195 --> 00:27:57.495
<00:27:55.195>And <00:27:55.350>there's <00:27:55.506>always <00:27:55.661>gonna <00:27:55.817>be <00:27:55.972>the <00:27:56.128>next <00:27:56.283>mountain <00:27:56.439>to <00:27:56.595>climb

610
00:27:57.495 --> 00:28:00.615
<00:27:57.495>because <00:27:57.695>your <00:27:57.895>journey's <00:27:58.094>very, <00:27:58.294>very <00:27:58.495>personal <00:27:58.695>to <00:27:58.895>you

611
00:28:01.485 --> 00:28:02.545
<00:28:01.485>and <00:28:01.803>sometimes <00:28:02.121>there's <00:28:02.439>things

612
00:28:02.545 --> 00:28:06.065
<00:28:02.545>that <00:28:02.778>you're <00:28:03.011>not <00:28:03.245>comfortable <00:28:03.478>talking <00:28:03.711>about, <00:28:03.945>certain

613
00:28:06.085 --> 00:28:07.465
<00:28:06.085>or <00:28:06.706>particular <00:28:07.327>formats

614
00:28:07.465 --> 00:28:08.825
<00:28:07.465>that <00:28:07.639>you <00:28:07.814>might <00:28:07.989>not <00:28:08.164>be <00:28:08.339>comfortable <00:28:08.514>talking <00:28:08.689>about.

615
00:28:08.885 --> 00:28:11.865
<00:28:08.885>So <00:28:09.040>one <00:28:09.196>prime <00:28:09.351>example <00:28:09.507>that <00:28:09.662>even <00:28:09.818>me <00:28:09.973>who's <00:28:10.129>been <00:28:10.285>speaking

616
00:28:11.885 --> 00:28:15.505
<00:28:11.885>for <00:28:12.001>four <00:28:12.118>years <00:28:12.235>thinks <00:28:12.351>of <00:28:12.468>is <00:28:12.585>for <00:28:12.701>a <00:28:12.818>long <00:28:12.935>time <00:28:13.051>I <00:28:13.168>didn't <00:28:13.285>want

617
00:28:15.505 --> 00:28:16.785
<00:28:15.505>to <00:28:15.735>do <00:28:15.965>the <00:28:16.196>format <00:28:16.426>called <00:28:16.657>Ignite.

618
00:28:17.365 --> 00:28:20.945
<00:28:17.365>So <00:28:17.520>it's <00:28:17.676>a <00:28:17.831>format <00:28:17.987>where <00:28:18.142>basically <00:28:18.298>your <00:28:18.453>slides <00:28:18.609>auto <00:28:18.765>rotate

619
00:28:20.995 --> 00:28:24.265
<00:28:20.995>every <00:28:21.135>15 <00:28:21.274>seconds <00:28:21.415>so <00:28:21.554>you <00:28:21.695>end <00:28:21.834>up <00:28:21.975>speaking <00:28:22.114>for <00:28:22.254>five <00:28:22.395>minutes.

620
00:28:24.985 --> 00:28:26.565
<00:28:24.985>So <00:28:25.218>the <00:28:25.451>five <00:28:25.685>minutes <00:28:25.918>wasn't <00:28:26.151>the <00:28:26.385>problem.

621
00:28:26.755 --> 00:28:28.245
<00:28:26.755>I've <00:28:27.023>done <00:28:27.291>plenty <00:28:27.559>of <00:28:27.827>lightning <00:28:28.096>talks.

622
00:28:28.545 --> 00:28:30.245
<00:28:28.545>The <00:28:28.700>thing <00:28:28.856>that <00:28:29.011>was <00:28:29.167>scary <00:28:29.322>to <00:28:29.478>me <00:28:29.633>was <00:28:29.789>the <00:28:29.945>fact

623
00:28:30.245 --> 00:28:31.925
<00:28:30.245>that <00:28:30.445>I <00:28:30.645>didn't <00:28:30.844>have <00:28:31.044>control <00:28:31.245>of <00:28:31.445>the <00:28:31.645>clicker.

624
00:28:32.195 --> 00:28:33.685
<00:28:32.195>That <00:28:32.418>was <00:28:32.641>the <00:28:32.865>bit <00:28:33.089>that <00:28:33.312>was <00:28:33.536>terrifying

625
00:28:34.385 --> 00:28:37.325
<00:28:34.385>and <00:28:34.492>I <00:28:34.600>did <00:28:34.708>my <00:28:34.815>first <00:28:34.923>one <00:28:35.031>of <00:28:35.138>those <00:28:35.246>last <00:28:35.354>week <00:28:35.461>and <00:28:35.569>you <00:28:35.677>know <00:28:35.785>what?

626
00:28:37.345 --> 00:28:39.085
<00:28:37.345>It <00:28:37.520>went <00:28:37.695>pretty <00:28:37.870>well. <00:28:38.045>So <00:28:38.220>I'd <00:28:38.395>be <00:28:38.570>quite <00:28:38.745>happy

627
00:28:39.305 --> 00:28:40.325
<00:28:39.305>to <00:28:39.488>do <00:28:39.672>another <00:28:39.855>one <00:28:40.039>of <00:28:40.223>those.

628
00:28:41.425 --> 00:28:43.805
<00:28:41.425>So <00:28:41.580>just <00:28:41.736>think <00:28:41.891>about <00:28:42.047>what <00:28:42.202>the <00:28:42.358>next <00:28:42.513>logical <00:28:42.669>step <00:28:42.825>is.

629
00:28:43.805 --> 00:28:45.885
<00:28:43.805>Just <00:28:44.005>formulate <00:28:44.205>that <00:28:44.405>rough <00:28:44.605>plan <00:28:44.805>in <00:28:45.005>your <00:28:45.205>head

630
00:28:45.985 --> 00:28:48.405
<00:28:45.985>of <00:28:46.125>maybe <00:28:46.264>the <00:28:46.405>types <00:28:46.544>of <00:28:46.685>events <00:28:46.824>that <00:28:46.965>you <00:28:47.104>want <00:28:47.245>to <00:28:47.385>do.

631
00:28:48.405 --> 00:28:50.245
<00:28:48.405>Maybe <00:28:48.605>the <00:28:48.805>topics <00:28:49.004>you <00:28:49.205>want <00:28:49.405>to <00:28:49.605>start <00:28:49.805>with

632
00:28:50.785 --> 00:28:53.565
<00:28:50.785>and <00:28:50.940>form <00:28:51.096>your <00:28:51.251>own <00:28:51.407>journey <00:28:51.562>to <00:28:51.718>build <00:28:51.873>up <00:28:52.029>your <00:28:52.185>confidence.

633
00:28:53.725 --> 00:28:56.285
<00:28:53.725>'cause <00:28:53.925>otherwise <00:28:54.125>you'll <00:28:54.324>end <00:28:54.524>up <00:28:54.725>with <00:28:54.925>bad <00:28:55.125>experiences.

634
00:28:56.385 --> 00:28:58.405
<00:28:56.385>As <00:28:56.560>we <00:28:56.735>said, <00:28:56.910>that <00:28:57.085>might <00:28:57.260>stop <00:28:57.435>you <00:28:57.610>speaking <00:28:57.785>again.

635
00:28:59.835 --> 00:29:02.055
<00:28:59.835>But <00:29:00.068>we <00:29:00.301>need <00:29:00.535>to <00:29:00.768>talk <00:29:01.001>about <00:29:01.235>CFPs

636
00:29:02.465 --> 00:29:04.515
<00:29:02.465>because <00:29:02.698>this <00:29:02.931>is <00:29:03.165>your <00:29:03.398>main <00:29:03.631>route <00:29:03.865>in.

637
00:29:04.535 --> 00:29:09.435
<00:29:04.535>In <00:29:04.710>the <00:29:04.885>majority <00:29:05.060>of <00:29:05.235>cases, <00:29:05.410>CFPs <00:29:05.585>call <00:29:05.760>for <00:29:05.935>papers

638
00:29:09.655 --> 00:29:12.835
<00:29:09.655>or <00:29:09.810>sometimes <00:29:09.966>called <00:29:10.121>call <00:29:10.277>for <00:29:10.432>proposals <00:29:10.588>is <00:29:10.743>where <00:29:10.899>a <00:29:11.055>conference

639
00:29:13.095 --> 00:29:14.435
<00:29:13.095>or <00:29:13.497>occasionally <00:29:13.899>a <00:29:14.301>meetup.

640
00:29:14.455 --> 00:29:15.835
<00:29:14.455>It <00:29:14.703>is <00:29:14.951>rare <00:29:15.200>but <00:29:15.448>it <00:29:15.697>happens.

641
00:29:17.545 --> 00:29:19.485
<00:29:17.545>Ask <00:29:17.825>for <00:29:18.105>submissions <00:29:18.385>for <00:29:18.665>talk <00:29:18.945>ideas

642
00:29:19.785 --> 00:29:21.325
<00:29:19.785>and <00:29:20.131>this <00:29:20.478>is <00:29:20.824>your <00:29:21.171>opportunity

643
00:29:21.705 --> 00:29:24.525
<00:29:21.705>to <00:29:21.879>register <00:29:22.054>interest <00:29:22.230>in <00:29:22.405>speaking <00:29:22.580>at <00:29:22.754>a <00:29:22.929>particular <00:29:23.105>conference.

644
00:29:25.625 --> 00:29:27.485
<00:29:25.625>But <00:29:25.858>CFPs, <00:29:26.091>when <00:29:26.325>you've <00:29:26.558>never <00:29:26.791>done <00:29:27.025>them

645
00:29:27.485 --> 00:29:30.445
<00:29:27.485>before, <00:29:27.718>are <00:29:27.951>scary <00:29:28.185>for <00:29:28.418>several <00:29:28.651>different <00:29:28.885>reasons.

646
00:29:31.235 --> 00:29:34.025
<00:29:31.235>First <00:29:31.390>thing <00:29:31.546>is <00:29:31.701>you <00:29:31.857>might <00:29:32.012>not <00:29:32.168>be <00:29:32.323>sure <00:29:32.479>if <00:29:32.635>your

647
00:29:34.025 --> 00:29:35.105
<00:29:34.025>topic <00:29:34.268>is <00:29:34.511>the <00:29:34.754>right <00:29:34.997>fit.

648
00:29:36.755 --> 00:29:39.535
<00:29:36.755>You <00:29:36.895>might <00:29:37.035>look <00:29:37.175>at <00:29:37.315>all <00:29:37.455>the <00:29:37.595>tracks <00:29:37.735>on <00:29:37.875>the <00:29:38.015>particular <00:29:38.155>site

649
00:29:39.535 --> 00:29:40.775
<00:29:39.535>for <00:29:39.814>the <00:29:40.093>conference <00:29:40.372>and <00:29:40.651>think

650
00:29:42.015 --> 00:29:44.475
<00:29:42.015>I'm <00:29:42.170>still <00:29:42.326>not <00:29:42.481>a <00:29:42.637>hundred <00:29:42.792>percent <00:29:42.948>sure <00:29:43.103>that <00:29:43.259>I <00:29:43.415>fit.

651
00:29:46.645 --> 00:29:49.185
<00:29:46.645>The <00:29:46.845>other <00:29:47.045>thing <00:29:47.245>is <00:29:47.445>every <00:29:47.645>conference <00:29:47.845>is <00:29:48.045>different.

652
00:29:49.415 --> 00:29:51.065
<00:29:49.415>They <00:29:49.764>all <00:29:50.115>have <00:29:50.465>different <00:29:50.815>formats.

653
00:29:51.065 --> 00:29:53.065
<00:29:51.065>Some <00:29:51.265>of <00:29:51.465>them <00:29:51.665>do <00:29:51.865>five <00:29:52.065>minute <00:29:52.265>lightning <00:29:52.465>talks,

654
00:29:53.065 --> 00:29:56.625
<00:29:53.065>some <00:29:53.205>do <00:29:53.345>ignites, <00:29:53.485>some <00:29:53.625>do <00:29:53.765>full <00:29:53.905>talks <00:29:54.045>that <00:29:54.185>are <00:29:54.325>20 <00:29:54.465>minutes,

655
00:29:56.655 --> 00:29:59.305
<00:29:56.655>some <00:29:56.855>do <00:29:57.055>full <00:29:57.254>talks <00:29:57.455>that <00:29:57.655>are <00:29:57.855>50 <00:29:58.055>minutes.

656
00:29:59.495 --> 00:30:01.625
<00:29:59.495>Some <00:29:59.695>do <00:29:59.895>tools <00:30:00.094>in <00:30:00.294>action <00:30:00.495>which <00:30:00.695>is <00:30:00.895>30

657
00:30:02.925 --> 00:30:04.855
<00:30:02.925>that <00:30:03.158>can <00:30:03.391>be <00:30:03.625>really <00:30:03.858>intimidating <00:30:04.091>to <00:30:04.325>try

658
00:30:04.855 --> 00:30:07.855
<00:30:04.855>and <00:30:04.982>figure <00:30:05.109>out <00:30:05.236>what <00:30:05.364>type <00:30:05.491>of <00:30:05.618>format <00:30:05.745>you <00:30:05.873>want <00:30:06.000>to <00:30:06.127>submit <00:30:06.255>to.

659
00:30:08.035 --> 00:30:10.815
<00:30:08.035>As <00:30:08.175>well <00:30:08.315>as <00:30:08.455>things <00:30:08.595>like <00:30:08.735>the <00:30:08.875>track <00:30:09.015>that <00:30:09.155>we <00:30:09.295>talked <00:30:09.435>about

660
00:30:11.555 --> 00:30:13.015
<00:30:11.555>and <00:30:11.774>also <00:30:11.993>what <00:30:12.212>the <00:30:12.431>level <00:30:12.650>might <00:30:12.869>be.

661
00:30:13.035 --> 00:30:14.855
<00:30:13.035>Is <00:30:13.268>it <00:30:13.501>beginner <00:30:13.735>and <00:30:13.968>intermediate <00:30:14.201>or <00:30:14.435>advanced?

662
00:30:16.945 --> 00:30:20.285
<00:30:16.945>The <00:30:17.072>other <00:30:17.199>thing <00:30:17.326>is <00:30:17.454>you <00:30:17.581>might <00:30:17.708>not <00:30:17.835>know <00:30:17.963>what <00:30:18.090>to <00:30:18.217>put <00:30:18.345>in

663
00:30:20.365 --> 00:30:22.205
<00:30:20.365>what <00:30:20.598>section <00:30:20.831>because <00:30:21.065>they <00:30:21.298>all <00:30:21.531>have <00:30:21.765>different

664
00:30:22.355 --> 00:30:23.925
<00:30:22.355>formats <00:30:22.705>that <00:30:23.055>make <00:30:23.405>it <00:30:23.755>unclear.

665
00:30:25.895 --> 00:30:29.995
<00:30:25.895>And <00:30:26.050>then <00:30:26.206>the <00:30:26.361>other <00:30:26.517>thing <00:30:26.672>about <00:30:26.828>these <00:30:26.983>CFPs <00:30:27.139>is <00:30:27.295>sometimes

666
00:30:29.995 --> 00:30:31.395
<00:30:29.995>you're <00:30:30.205>not <00:30:30.415>sure <00:30:30.625>it's <00:30:30.835>a <00:30:31.045>good <00:30:31.254>conference

667
00:30:31.415 --> 00:30:34.635
<00:30:31.415>or <00:30:31.542>it's <00:30:31.669>a <00:30:31.796>conference <00:30:31.924>that <00:30:32.051>you <00:30:32.178>know <00:30:32.305>you <00:30:32.433>get <00:30:32.560>a <00:30:32.687>good <00:30:32.815>experience

668
00:30:34.635 --> 00:30:36.155
<00:30:34.635>from <00:30:34.863>that <00:30:35.091>you <00:30:35.319>might <00:30:35.547>be <00:30:35.775>supported <00:30:36.003>at.

669
00:30:36.895 --> 00:30:40.055
<00:30:36.895>And <00:30:37.070>sometimes <00:30:37.245>that <00:30:37.420>can <00:30:37.595>be <00:30:37.770>difficult <00:30:37.945>to <00:30:38.120>find <00:30:38.295>out.

670
00:30:41.435 --> 00:30:43.935
<00:30:41.435>So <00:30:41.635>firstly <00:30:41.835>we're <00:30:42.034>gonna <00:30:42.235>talk <00:30:42.435>about <00:30:42.635>finding <00:30:42.835>forums,

671
00:30:44.275 --> 00:30:46.375
<00:30:44.275>how <00:30:44.508>you <00:30:44.741>find <00:30:44.975>these <00:30:45.208>opportunities <00:30:45.441>to <00:30:45.675>speak

672
00:30:46.375 --> 00:30:48.455
<00:30:46.375>because <00:30:46.550>it's <00:30:46.725>a <00:30:46.900>little <00:30:47.075>bit <00:30:47.250>all <00:30:47.425>over <00:30:47.600>the <00:30:47.775>place.

673
00:30:49.845 --> 00:30:51.185
<00:30:49.845>So <00:30:50.046>first <00:30:50.247>thing <00:30:50.448>is <00:30:50.649>word <00:30:50.850>of <00:30:51.051>mouth.

674
00:30:51.325 --> 00:30:53.225
<00:30:51.325>If <00:30:51.558>you <00:30:51.791>have <00:30:52.025>colleagues <00:30:52.258>that <00:30:52.491>have <00:30:52.725>been

675
00:30:53.225 --> 00:30:54.745
<00:30:53.225>to <00:30:53.567>a <00:30:53.908>particular <00:30:54.251>conference <00:30:54.592>before

676
00:30:55.085 --> 00:30:57.225
<00:30:55.085>or <00:30:55.260>you <00:30:55.435>have <00:30:55.610>a <00:30:55.785>mentor <00:30:55.960>that <00:30:56.135>knows <00:30:56.310>the <00:30:56.485>conference

677
00:30:57.225 --> 00:30:58.665
<00:30:57.225>scene, <00:30:57.549>ask, <00:30:57.873>talk <00:30:58.197>to <00:30:58.521>them.

678
00:30:59.295 --> 00:31:01.865
<00:30:59.295>Find <00:30:59.470>out <00:30:59.645>what <00:30:59.820>conferences <00:30:59.995>they <00:31:00.170>like <00:31:00.345>that <00:31:00.520>they've <00:31:00.695>enjoyed.

679
00:31:02.525 --> 00:31:04.385
<00:31:02.525>If <00:31:02.725>they're <00:31:02.925>a <00:31:03.125>speaker, <00:31:03.325>talk <00:31:03.525>about <00:31:03.725>the <00:31:03.925>ones

680
00:31:04.385 --> 00:31:06.225
<00:31:04.385>that <00:31:04.618>they've <00:31:04.851>had <00:31:05.085>good <00:31:05.318>speaking <00:31:05.551>experiences <00:31:05.785>with.

681
00:31:06.325 --> 00:31:10.325
<00:31:06.325>That's <00:31:06.675>a <00:31:07.025>okay. <00:31:07.375>Second <00:31:07.725>meetup.com

682
00:31:10.865 --> 00:31:13.525
<00:31:10.865>is <00:31:11.005>the <00:31:11.145>place <00:31:11.285>where <00:31:11.425>the <00:31:11.565>majority <00:31:11.705>of <00:31:11.845>meetups <00:31:11.985>on <00:31:12.125>the <00:31:12.265>internet.

683
00:31:13.945 --> 00:31:15.965
<00:31:13.945>So <00:31:14.100>searching <00:31:14.256>for <00:31:14.411>local <00:31:14.567>meetups <00:31:14.722>if <00:31:14.878>you're <00:31:15.033>not <00:31:15.189>a <00:31:15.345>member

684
00:31:15.965 --> 00:31:18.765
<00:31:15.965>already <00:31:16.314>and <00:31:16.665>finding <00:31:17.014>opportunities <00:31:17.365>to,

685
00:31:18.765 --> 00:31:20.125
<00:31:18.765>to <00:31:19.071>maybe <00:31:19.377>ping <00:31:19.683>the <00:31:19.989>organizers

686
00:31:20.125 --> 00:31:21.925
<00:31:20.125>and <00:31:20.252>see <00:31:20.379>if <00:31:20.506>they'd <00:31:20.634>be <00:31:20.761>happy <00:31:20.888>for <00:31:21.015>you <00:31:21.143>to <00:31:21.270>come <00:31:21.397>and <00:31:21.525>speak

687
00:31:22.585 --> 00:31:24.765
<00:31:22.585>or <00:31:22.785>even <00:31:22.985>happy <00:31:23.185>to, <00:31:23.385>you <00:31:23.585>can <00:31:23.785>probably <00:31:23.985>register

688
00:31:24.765 --> 00:31:27.205
<00:31:24.765>to <00:31:24.892>go <00:31:25.019>along <00:31:25.146>first <00:31:25.274>to <00:31:25.401>an <00:31:25.528>event <00:31:25.655>and <00:31:25.783>see <00:31:25.910>what <00:31:26.037>it's <00:31:26.165>like.

689
00:31:28.035 --> 00:31:29.695
<00:31:28.035>Meetup.com <00:31:28.315>is <00:31:28.595>your <00:31:28.875>friend <00:31:29.155>for <00:31:29.435>that.

690
00:31:29.715 --> 00:31:32.215
<00:31:29.715>And <00:31:29.948>you <00:31:30.181>can <00:31:30.415>find <00:31:30.648>community <00:31:30.881>and <00:31:31.115>connections

691
00:31:32.235 --> 00:31:33.935
<00:31:32.235>and <00:31:32.435>expand <00:31:32.635>your <00:31:32.834>network <00:31:33.034>that <00:31:33.235>way <00:31:33.435>as <00:31:33.635>well.

692
00:31:35.845 --> 00:31:37.465
<00:31:35.845>You <00:31:36.195>can <00:31:36.545>try <00:31:36.895>frantic <00:31:37.245>Googling.

693
00:31:37.815 --> 00:31:40.505
<00:31:37.815>Sometimes <00:31:37.970>it <00:31:38.126>has <00:31:38.281>worked <00:31:38.437>for <00:31:38.592>me <00:31:38.748>and <00:31:38.903>sometimes <00:31:39.059>it <00:31:39.215>hasn't.

694
00:31:40.965 --> 00:31:43.265
<00:31:40.965>Um, <00:31:41.120>but <00:31:41.276>there's <00:31:41.431>no, <00:31:41.587>there's <00:31:41.742>no <00:31:41.898>harm <00:31:42.053>in <00:31:42.209>trying <00:31:42.365>trying.

695
00:31:44.445 --> 00:31:46.905
<00:31:44.445>You <00:31:44.645>can <00:31:44.845>try <00:31:45.044>sessionize, <00:31:45.245>which <00:31:45.445>is <00:31:45.645>the <00:31:45.845>portal.

696
00:31:47.125 --> 00:31:48.425
<00:31:47.125>The <00:31:47.359>fact <00:31:47.593>that <00:31:47.827>we <00:31:48.061>are <00:31:48.295>developers.

697
00:31:48.585 --> 00:31:51.865
<00:31:48.585>CFP <00:31:48.760>is <00:31:48.935>on <00:31:49.110>sessionize <00:31:49.285>that <00:31:49.460>allows <00:31:49.635>you <00:31:49.810>to <00:31:49.985>search

698
00:31:51.965 --> 00:31:53.625
<00:31:51.965>for <00:31:52.431>events <00:31:52.898>often <00:31:53.365>aligned

699
00:31:53.625 --> 00:31:57.505
<00:31:53.625>to <00:31:53.800>things <00:31:53.975>in <00:31:54.150>your <00:31:54.325>profile <00:31:54.500>like <00:31:54.675>your <00:31:54.850>particular <00:31:55.025>experience,

700
00:31:57.695 --> 00:31:59.945
<00:31:57.695>your <00:31:57.975>technologies <00:31:58.254>of <00:31:58.534>focus, <00:31:58.814>your <00:31:59.095>skills,

701
00:32:00.605 --> 00:32:01.745
<00:32:00.605>and <00:32:00.861>also <00:32:01.118>your <00:32:01.374>own <00:32:01.630>location.

702
00:32:02.365 --> 00:32:03.585
<00:32:02.365>And <00:32:02.548>also <00:32:02.731>if <00:32:02.914>you <00:32:03.097>have <00:32:03.280>a <00:32:03.463>preference

703
00:32:03.585 --> 00:32:05.385
<00:32:03.585>for <00:32:03.818>things <00:32:04.051>like <00:32:04.285>virtual <00:32:04.518>events <00:32:04.751>et <00:32:04.985>cetera,

704
00:32:05.735 --> 00:32:07.785
<00:32:05.735>that <00:32:05.890>is <00:32:06.046>a <00:32:06.201>good <00:32:06.357>place <00:32:06.512>to <00:32:06.668>search <00:32:06.823>And <00:32:06.979>certainly <00:32:07.135>I

705
00:32:07.785 --> 00:32:08.945
<00:32:07.785>do <00:32:08.046>have <00:32:08.307>submissions <00:32:08.568>on <00:32:08.829>there.

706
00:32:09.885 --> 00:32:12.745
<00:32:09.885>And <00:32:10.012>then <00:32:10.139>you <00:32:10.266>can <00:32:10.394>also <00:32:10.521>do <00:32:10.648>things <00:32:10.775>like <00:32:10.903>Tech <00:32:11.030>Daily <00:32:11.157>CFP <00:32:11.285>email

707
00:32:12.745 --> 00:32:14.625
<00:32:12.745>blast <00:32:12.978>or <00:32:13.211>find <00:32:13.445>your <00:32:13.678>next <00:32:13.911>tech <00:32:14.145>conference

708
00:32:14.625 --> 00:32:18.265
<00:32:14.625>or <00:32:14.765>sites <00:32:14.905>that <00:32:15.045>you <00:32:15.185>can <00:32:15.325>find <00:32:15.465>out <00:32:15.605>when <00:32:15.745>regular <00:32:15.885>conferences <00:32:16.025>are

709
00:32:18.265 --> 00:32:20.945
<00:32:18.265>happening <00:32:18.545>because <00:32:18.825>not <00:32:19.105>everyone <00:32:19.385>uses <00:32:19.665>sessionize.

710
00:32:20.945 --> 00:32:24.105
<00:32:20.945>Different <00:32:21.145>conferences <00:32:21.345>will <00:32:21.544>use <00:32:21.745>things <00:32:21.945>like <00:32:22.145>Google <00:32:22.345>Forms

711
00:32:24.245 --> 00:32:25.785
<00:32:24.245>for <00:32:24.522>example <00:32:24.799>is <00:32:25.076>very <00:32:25.353>common <00:32:25.631>for

712
00:32:25.805 --> 00:32:27.625
<00:32:25.805>for <00:32:26.155>JavaScript <00:32:26.505>and <00:32:26.855>DevOps <00:32:27.205>days.

713
00:32:28.285 --> 00:32:29.945
<00:32:28.285>Um, <00:32:28.518>some <00:32:28.751>even <00:32:28.985>have <00:32:29.218>their <00:32:29.451>own <00:32:29.685>portals.

714
00:32:30.235 --> 00:32:31.305
<00:32:30.235>Everything <00:32:30.716>is <00:32:31.198>different.

715
00:32:32.545 --> 00:32:34.525
<00:32:32.545>And <00:32:32.778>then <00:32:33.011>there's <00:32:33.245>also <00:32:33.478>the <00:32:33.711>wonderful <00:32:33.945>honor,

716
00:32:34.675 --> 00:32:38.445
<00:32:34.675>VASH <00:32:34.830>has <00:32:34.986>a <00:32:35.141>lovely <00:32:35.297>conference <00:32:35.452>list <00:32:35.608>where <00:32:35.763>she <00:32:35.919>shows <00:32:36.075>agendas

717
00:32:38.445 --> 00:32:39.485
<00:32:38.445>for <00:32:38.678>prior <00:32:38.913>years <00:32:39.147>as <00:32:39.380>well.

718
00:32:39.585 --> 00:32:41.285
<00:32:39.585>So <00:32:39.865>if <00:32:40.145>you're <00:32:40.425>looking <00:32:40.705>to <00:32:40.985>see,

719
00:32:41.905 --> 00:32:43.965
<00:32:41.905>I'm <00:32:42.105>not <00:32:42.305>sure <00:32:42.504>if <00:32:42.705>my <00:32:42.905>topic <00:32:43.105>bits <00:32:43.305>then

720
00:32:43.965 --> 00:32:45.285
<00:32:43.965>that's <00:32:44.134>a <00:32:44.304>good <00:32:44.474>place <00:32:44.643>to <00:32:44.813>look <00:32:44.983>as <00:32:45.153>well.

721
00:32:46.705 --> 00:32:49.725
<00:32:46.705>So <00:32:46.845>you've <00:32:46.985>now <00:32:47.125>found <00:32:47.264>the <00:32:47.405>conference <00:32:47.544>that <00:32:47.685>you <00:32:47.824>wanna <00:32:47.965>speak <00:32:48.105>at

722
00:32:50.745 --> 00:32:52.885
<00:32:50.745>and <00:32:50.919>you've <00:32:51.094>decided <00:32:51.270>to <00:32:51.445>submit <00:32:51.620>to <00:32:51.794>call <00:32:51.969>for <00:32:52.145>papers.

723
00:32:52.915 --> 00:32:54.365
<00:32:52.915>What <00:32:53.132>do <00:32:53.350>you <00:32:53.567>put <00:32:53.785>in <00:32:54.002>it? <00:32:54.220>Well,

724
00:32:55.315 --> 00:32:57.045
<00:32:55.315>there's <00:32:55.595>a <00:32:55.875>few <00:32:56.155>things <00:32:56.435>I <00:32:56.715>recommend,

725
00:32:57.045 --> 00:32:58.885
<00:32:57.045>which <00:32:57.220>are <00:32:57.395>the <00:32:57.570>ones <00:32:57.745>I've <00:32:57.920>asterisk <00:32:58.095>on <00:32:58.270>the <00:32:58.445>slide

726
00:32:59.345 --> 00:33:01.525
<00:32:59.345>and <00:32:59.500>there's <00:32:59.656>a <00:32:59.811>couple <00:32:59.967>of <00:33:00.122>optional <00:33:00.278>things <00:33:00.433>that <00:33:00.589>I <00:33:00.745>recommend,

727
00:33:01.585 --> 00:33:02.925
<00:33:01.585>but <00:33:01.757>it's <00:33:01.929>not <00:33:02.101>the <00:33:02.274>end <00:33:02.446>of <00:33:02.618>the <00:33:02.791>world

728
00:33:02.925 --> 00:33:04.365
<00:33:02.925>particularly <00:33:03.141>for <00:33:03.357>you're <00:33:03.572>a <00:33:03.789>first <00:33:04.005>time <00:33:04.221>speaker.

729
00:33:05.665 --> 00:33:06.685
<00:33:05.665>So <00:33:05.848>you <00:33:06.032>can <00:33:06.215>have <00:33:06.399>a <00:33:06.582>title

730
00:33:07.345 --> 00:33:09.245
<00:33:07.345>and <00:33:07.520>make <00:33:07.695>sure <00:33:07.870>the <00:33:08.045>title <00:33:08.220>is <00:33:08.395>clear <00:33:08.570>and <00:33:08.745>succinct.

731
00:33:10.015 --> 00:33:11.685
<00:33:10.015>Don't <00:33:10.295>worry <00:33:10.575>about, <00:33:10.855>you <00:33:11.135>know, <00:33:11.415>trying

732
00:33:11.685 --> 00:33:12.965
<00:33:11.685>to <00:33:11.915>make <00:33:12.145>it <00:33:12.376>sound <00:33:12.606>super <00:33:12.837>catchy

733
00:33:12.995 --> 00:33:15.445
<00:33:12.995>because <00:33:13.135>you <00:33:13.274>might <00:33:13.415>end <00:33:13.554>up <00:33:13.695>with <00:33:13.834>a <00:33:13.975>title <00:33:14.114>that <00:33:14.254>doesn't <00:33:14.395>explain

734
00:33:15.445 --> 00:33:16.805
<00:33:15.445>what <00:33:15.751>your <00:33:16.057>talk's <00:33:16.363>actually <00:33:16.669>about.

735
00:33:18.065 --> 00:33:20.325
<00:33:18.065>The <00:33:18.240>abstract <00:33:18.415>should <00:33:18.590>be <00:33:18.765>maybe <00:33:18.940>no <00:33:19.115>more <00:33:19.290>than <00:33:19.465>three

736
00:33:20.325 --> 00:33:23.925
<00:33:20.325>or <00:33:20.465>four <00:33:20.605>sentences <00:33:20.745>and <00:33:20.885>in <00:33:21.025>fact <00:33:21.165>some <00:33:21.305>conferences <00:33:21.445>might <00:33:21.585>have <00:33:21.725>a

737
00:33:23.925 --> 00:33:25.165
<00:33:23.925>character <00:33:24.204>limit <00:33:24.483>on <00:33:24.762>the <00:33:25.041>form.

738
00:33:25.225 --> 00:33:27.565
<00:33:25.225>So <00:33:25.365>look <00:33:25.504>out <00:33:25.645>for <00:33:25.784>that <00:33:25.925>and <00:33:26.064>and <00:33:26.205>tweak <00:33:26.344>as <00:33:26.485>you <00:33:26.625>need.

739
00:33:29.025 --> 00:33:31.155
<00:33:29.025>Talk <00:33:29.200>outline. <00:33:29.375>So <00:33:29.550>what <00:33:29.725>are <00:33:29.900>the <00:33:30.075>key <00:33:30.250>bullet <00:33:30.425>points

740
00:33:31.225 --> 00:33:32.395
<00:33:31.225>that <00:33:31.435>you <00:33:31.646>want <00:33:31.856>to <00:33:32.067>talk <00:33:32.278>about?

741
00:33:32.825 --> 00:33:34.275
<00:33:32.825>What <00:33:33.042>are <00:33:33.260>the <00:33:33.477>audience <00:33:33.695>going <00:33:33.912>to <00:33:34.130>learn?

742
00:33:35.775 --> 00:33:36.995
<00:33:35.775>Who <00:33:36.049>are <00:33:36.324>the <00:33:36.598>target <00:33:36.872>audience?

743
00:33:37.105 --> 00:33:38.715
<00:33:37.105>Have <00:33:37.338>you <00:33:37.571>thought <00:33:37.805>about <00:33:38.038>who <00:33:38.271>it <00:33:38.505>is?

744
00:33:38.955 --> 00:33:40.035
<00:33:38.955>'cause <00:33:39.093>that <00:33:39.232>can <00:33:39.371>help <00:33:39.510>you <00:33:39.649>when <00:33:39.788>it <00:33:39.927>comes

745
00:33:40.035 --> 00:33:42.805
<00:33:40.035>to <00:33:40.268>preparing <00:33:40.501>later, <00:33:40.735>think <00:33:40.968>about <00:33:41.201>the <00:33:41.435>format.

746
00:33:43.025 --> 00:33:45.565
<00:33:43.025>So <00:33:43.165>what <00:33:43.305>length <00:33:43.445>of <00:33:43.585>talk <00:33:43.725>is <00:33:43.865>it? <00:33:44.005>Is <00:33:44.145>it <00:33:44.285>a <00:33:44.425>workshop?

747
00:33:45.625 --> 00:33:49.045
<00:33:45.625>Run <00:33:45.780>the <00:33:45.936>talk? <00:33:46.091>Um, <00:33:46.247>is <00:33:46.402>it <00:33:46.558>beginner, <00:33:46.713>intermediate <00:33:46.869>or <00:33:47.025>advanced?

748
00:33:50.855 --> 00:33:53.025
<00:33:50.855>What <00:33:50.995>track <00:33:51.135>does <00:33:51.275>it <00:33:51.415>fit <00:33:51.555>in? <00:33:51.695>All <00:33:51.835>those <00:33:51.975>kinds <00:33:52.115>of <00:33:52.255>things.

749
00:33:53.605 --> 00:33:55.425
<00:33:53.605>And <00:33:53.885>then <00:33:54.165>slides <00:33:54.445>and <00:33:54.725>sample <00:33:55.005>video.

750
00:33:56.285 --> 00:33:57.825
<00:33:56.285>So <00:33:56.516>slides, <00:33:56.747>if <00:33:56.978>you <00:33:57.209>have <00:33:57.440>them, <00:33:57.671>great.

751
00:33:57.925 --> 00:33:59.665
<00:33:57.925>If <00:33:58.125>it's <00:33:58.325>you <00:33:58.524>haven't <00:33:58.725>built <00:33:58.925>a <00:33:59.125>top <00:33:59.325>yet

752
00:33:59.825 --> 00:34:01.505
<00:33:59.825>'cause <00:34:00.058>you've <00:34:00.291>never <00:34:00.525>given <00:34:00.758>it <00:34:00.991>before, <00:34:01.225>don't,

753
00:34:01.555 --> 00:34:03.225
<00:34:01.555>don't <00:34:01.905>stress <00:34:02.255>they, <00:34:02.605>they're <00:34:02.955>optional.

754
00:34:04.385 --> 00:34:06.485
<00:34:04.385>The <00:34:04.540>sample <00:34:04.696>video, <00:34:04.851>you <00:34:05.007>don't <00:34:05.162>need <00:34:05.318>to <00:34:05.473>put <00:34:05.629>in <00:34:05.785>either.

755
00:34:06.585 --> 00:34:08.165
<00:34:06.585>You <00:34:06.760>could <00:34:06.935>just <00:34:07.110>say <00:34:07.285>you're <00:34:07.460>a <00:34:07.635>first <00:34:07.810>time <00:34:07.985>speaker.

756
00:34:08.665 --> 00:34:10.645
<00:34:08.665>But <00:34:08.804>even <00:34:08.945>if <00:34:09.085>you <00:34:09.225>have <00:34:09.364>a <00:34:09.505>video <00:34:09.645>of <00:34:09.784>a <00:34:09.925>lightning <00:34:10.065>talk

757
00:34:10.645 --> 00:34:12.685
<00:34:10.645>that <00:34:10.844>you've <00:34:11.045>done <00:34:11.245>before <00:34:11.445>or <00:34:11.645>even <00:34:11.844>a <00:34:12.045>podcast

758
00:34:12.945 --> 00:34:15.485
<00:34:12.945>or <00:34:13.085>something <00:34:13.225>like <00:34:13.365>that, <00:34:13.505>or <00:34:13.645>even <00:34:13.785>if <00:34:13.925>you've <00:34:14.065>been <00:34:14.205>making <00:34:14.345>your

759
00:34:15.485 --> 00:34:18.845
<00:34:15.485>own <00:34:15.640>videos <00:34:15.796>and <00:34:15.951>tutorials <00:34:16.107>on <00:34:16.262>YouTube, <00:34:16.418>all <00:34:16.573>those <00:34:16.729>are <00:34:16.885>valid.

760
00:34:18.905 --> 00:34:20.845
<00:34:18.905>It <00:34:19.060>doesn't <00:34:19.216>have <00:34:19.371>to <00:34:19.527>be <00:34:19.682>a <00:34:19.838>full <00:34:19.993>length <00:34:20.149>conference <00:34:20.305>talk

761
00:34:20.845 --> 00:34:22.445
<00:34:20.844>and <00:34:21.020>it <00:34:21.194>doesn't <00:34:21.370>have <00:34:21.544>to <00:34:21.719>be <00:34:21.895>the <00:34:22.069>same <00:34:22.245>talk

762
00:34:22.445 --> 00:34:23.845
<00:34:22.445>that <00:34:22.655>you're <00:34:22.865>submitting <00:34:23.074>for <00:34:23.284>at <00:34:23.495>the <00:34:23.705>moment.

763
00:34:25.145 --> 00:34:28.325
<00:34:25.145>So <00:34:25.300>I <00:34:25.456>have <00:34:25.611>one <00:34:25.767>example <00:34:25.922>sitting <00:34:26.078>on <00:34:26.233>here, <00:34:26.389>which <00:34:26.545>is

764
00:34:28.325 --> 00:34:29.885
<00:34:28.324>for <00:34:28.605>a <00:34:28.884>conference <00:34:29.165>called <00:34:29.444>DevOps <00:34:29.725>uk.

765
00:34:31.805 --> 00:34:34.785
<00:34:31.804>And <00:34:31.980>I've <00:34:32.154>picked <00:34:32.330>this <00:34:32.504>one <00:34:32.679>because <00:34:32.855>it's <00:34:33.029>very <00:34:33.205>different.

766
00:34:34.845 --> 00:34:37.265
<00:34:34.844>So <00:34:35.044>we, <00:34:35.245>our <00:34:35.444>developers <00:34:35.645>actually <00:34:35.844>match <00:34:36.044>very <00:34:36.245>well

767
00:34:37.485 --> 00:34:39.465
<00:34:37.485>to <00:34:37.685>the <00:34:37.885>sections <00:34:38.085>that <00:34:38.285>I <00:34:38.485>put <00:34:38.685>there <00:34:38.885>before,

768
00:34:39.965 --> 00:34:41.945
<00:34:39.965>but <00:34:40.140>this <00:34:40.315>one <00:34:40.490>doesn't, <00:34:40.665>which <00:34:40.840>is <00:34:41.015>why <00:34:41.190>I <00:34:41.365>want

769
00:34:41.945 --> 00:34:43.185
<00:34:41.945>to <00:34:42.131>show <00:34:42.317>you <00:34:42.503>where <00:34:42.688>to <00:34:42.875>put <00:34:43.061>things.

770
00:34:44.205 --> 00:34:46.425
<00:34:44.205>So <00:34:44.344>you'll <00:34:44.485>see <00:34:44.625>it's <00:34:44.764>got <00:34:44.904>a <00:34:45.045>title <00:34:45.185>field <00:34:45.324>that's <00:34:45.465>pretty <00:34:45.605>standard.

771
00:34:47.045 --> 00:34:48.465
<00:34:47.045>You'll <00:34:47.258>see <00:34:47.471>it's <00:34:47.684>got <00:34:47.897>tags <00:34:48.110>as <00:34:48.323>well.

772
00:34:48.485 --> 00:34:51.905
<00:34:48.485>So <00:34:48.660>if <00:34:48.835>you <00:34:49.010>have <00:34:49.185>particular <00:34:49.360>technologies <00:34:49.535>or <00:34:49.710>particular <00:34:49.885>tools

773
00:34:52.245 --> 00:34:56.265
<00:34:52.245>or <00:34:52.420>techniques <00:34:52.594>or <00:34:52.770>themes <00:34:52.944>such <00:34:53.120>as <00:34:53.295>agility <00:34:53.469>or <00:34:53.645>scrum

774
00:34:56.285 --> 00:35:01.015
<00:34:56.284>or <00:34:56.440>something, <00:34:56.596>fit <00:34:56.751>those <00:34:56.907>in <00:34:57.062>as <00:34:57.218>tax, <00:34:57.373>you'll <00:34:57.529>probably <00:34:57.685>need

775
00:35:01.015 --> 00:35:03.335
<00:35:01.015>to <00:35:01.154>select <00:35:01.295>the <00:35:01.435>track <00:35:01.575>and <00:35:01.714>the <00:35:01.855>session <00:35:01.995>type <00:35:02.134>in <00:35:02.275>the <00:35:02.415>audience.

776
00:35:03.405 --> 00:35:05.015
<00:35:03.405>Most <00:35:03.638>forms <00:35:03.871>will <00:35:04.105>have <00:35:04.338>something <00:35:04.571>like <00:35:04.805>that.

777
00:35:06.215 --> 00:35:07.555
<00:35:06.215>But <00:35:06.387>you'll <00:35:06.559>see <00:35:06.731>it's <00:35:06.904>got <00:35:07.076>this <00:35:07.248>weird <00:35:07.421>thing

778
00:35:07.555 --> 00:35:08.635
<00:35:07.555>called <00:35:07.879>an <00:35:08.203>elevator <00:35:08.527>pitch.

779
00:35:09.895 --> 00:35:12.115
<00:35:09.895>And <00:35:10.128>that <00:35:10.361>is <00:35:10.595>very <00:35:10.828>specific <00:35:11.061>to <00:35:11.295>DevOps.

780
00:35:12.115 --> 00:35:13.355
<00:35:12.115>But <00:35:12.487>the <00:35:12.859>general <00:35:13.231>gist

781
00:35:13.355 --> 00:35:16.035
<00:35:13.355>of <00:35:13.495>the <00:35:13.635>elevator <00:35:13.775>pitch <00:35:13.915>is <00:35:14.055>why <00:35:14.195>you <00:35:14.335>should <00:35:14.475>give <00:35:14.615>this <00:35:14.755>talk.

782
00:35:16.095 --> 00:35:17.595
<00:35:16.095>Why <00:35:16.319>should <00:35:16.544>it <00:35:16.770>be <00:35:16.995>you <00:35:17.220>standing <00:35:17.444>there?

783
00:35:18.435 --> 00:35:20.125
<00:35:18.435>What <00:35:18.634>is <00:35:18.835>novel <00:35:19.035>about <00:35:19.235>what <00:35:19.435>you're <00:35:19.634>gonna <00:35:19.835>say?

784
00:35:21.185 --> 00:35:23.565
<00:35:21.185>And <00:35:21.360>then <00:35:21.535>there's <00:35:21.710>also <00:35:21.884>the <00:35:22.060>note <00:35:22.235>section, <00:35:22.410>which <00:35:22.585>means

785
00:35:23.565 --> 00:35:27.365
<00:35:23.565>that <00:35:23.765>see <00:35:23.965>the <00:35:24.165>target <00:35:24.365>audience, <00:35:24.565>the <00:35:24.765>key <00:35:24.965>takeaways,

786
00:35:28.115 --> 00:35:29.965
<00:35:28.115>they <00:35:28.348>go <00:35:28.581>in <00:35:28.814>notes <00:35:29.048>because <00:35:29.281>there's <00:35:29.515>no

787
00:35:29.965 --> 00:35:31.005
<00:35:29.965>other <00:35:30.199>obvious <00:35:30.433>place <00:35:30.667>for <00:35:30.901>them.

788
00:35:31.705 --> 00:35:34.325
<00:35:31.705>So <00:35:31.845>don't <00:35:31.985>worry <00:35:32.125>too <00:35:32.265>much <00:35:32.404>about <00:35:32.545>the <00:35:32.685>fields <00:35:32.825>that <00:35:32.965>are <00:35:33.105>there,

789
00:35:34.595 --> 00:35:36.325
<00:35:34.595>just <00:35:34.794>make <00:35:34.995>sure <00:35:35.194>you're <00:35:35.395>adding <00:35:35.595>in <00:35:35.794>these <00:35:35.995>things.

790
00:35:37.625 --> 00:35:40.125
<00:35:37.625>Slides <00:35:37.825>and <00:35:38.025>video <00:35:38.225>obviously <00:35:38.425>are <00:35:38.625>dedicated <00:35:38.825>fields <00:35:39.025>for,

791
00:35:40.125 --> 00:35:41.885
<00:35:40.125>but <00:35:40.280>if <00:35:40.436>they <00:35:40.591>didn't <00:35:40.747>I <00:35:40.902>would <00:35:41.058>put <00:35:41.213>it <00:35:41.369>in <00:35:41.525>notes.

792
00:35:42.625 --> 00:35:43.885
<00:35:42.625>But <00:35:42.851>also <00:35:43.078>if <00:35:43.305>there's <00:35:43.532>anything <00:35:43.759>else

793
00:35:43.885 --> 00:35:45.085
<00:35:43.885>that <00:35:44.065>you <00:35:44.245>want <00:35:44.425>the <00:35:44.605>committee <00:35:44.785>to <00:35:44.965>know,

794
00:35:45.305 --> 00:35:47.565
<00:35:45.305>if <00:35:45.480>you're <00:35:45.654>a <00:35:45.830>first <00:35:46.004>time <00:35:46.180>speaker <00:35:46.355>for <00:35:46.529>example, <00:35:46.705>put

795
00:35:47.565 --> 00:35:48.805
<00:35:47.565>that <00:35:47.724>down <00:35:47.883>as <00:35:48.043>a <00:35:48.202>note <00:35:48.362>to <00:35:48.521>the <00:35:48.681>committee.

796
00:35:49.505 --> 00:35:53.405
<00:35:49.505>If <00:35:49.632>you <00:35:49.759>need <00:35:49.886>sound <00:35:50.014>or <00:35:50.141>any <00:35:50.268>other <00:35:50.395>11 <00:35:50.523>sets, <00:35:50.650>put <00:35:50.777>that <00:35:50.905>down

797
00:35:53.995 --> 00:35:56.565
<00:35:53.995>because <00:35:54.134>if <00:35:54.275>you <00:35:54.415>don't, <00:35:54.555>they <00:35:54.694>won't <00:35:54.835>know <00:35:54.975>how <00:35:55.115>to <00:35:55.255>help <00:35:55.395>you.

798
00:35:57.735 --> 00:35:59.555
<00:35:57.735>And <00:35:57.935>then <00:35:58.135>you'll <00:35:58.335>probably <00:35:58.535>start <00:35:58.735>to <00:35:58.935>feel <00:35:59.135>nervous

799
00:36:00.635 --> 00:36:03.165
<00:36:00.635>because <00:36:00.835>you <00:36:01.035>know <00:36:01.235>it's, <00:36:01.435>it's <00:36:01.635>a <00:36:01.835>big <00:36:02.035>moment.

800
00:36:03.165 --> 00:36:04.725
<00:36:03.165>You're <00:36:03.515>submitting <00:36:03.865>your <00:36:04.215>first <00:36:04.565>CFP.

801
00:36:05.585 --> 00:36:07.605
<00:36:05.585>So <00:36:05.712>what <00:36:05.839>you're <00:36:05.966>gonna <00:36:06.094>do <00:36:06.221>next <00:36:06.348>is <00:36:06.475>you're <00:36:06.603>gonna <00:36:06.730>hit <00:36:06.857>the <00:36:06.985>submit

802
00:36:07.605 --> 00:36:10.205
<00:36:07.605>button <00:36:07.760>and <00:36:07.916>run <00:36:08.071>away <00:36:08.227>The <00:36:08.382>best <00:36:08.538>advice <00:36:08.693>I <00:36:08.849>ever <00:36:09.005>got

803
00:36:10.205 --> 00:36:11.285
<00:36:10.205>from <00:36:10.399>the <00:36:10.593>wonderful <00:36:10.788>hi <00:36:10.982>and <00:36:11.176>Scott.

804
00:36:12.465 --> 00:36:14.605
<00:36:12.465>And <00:36:12.592>then <00:36:12.719>after <00:36:12.846>that <00:36:12.974>it <00:36:13.101>is <00:36:13.228>a <00:36:13.355>bit <00:36:13.483>of <00:36:13.610>a <00:36:13.737>waiting <00:36:13.865>game.

805
00:36:14.605 --> 00:36:16.245
<00:36:14.605>But <00:36:14.805>one <00:36:15.005>of <00:36:15.205>three <00:36:15.405>things <00:36:15.605>will <00:36:15.805>happen <00:36:16.005>next.

806
00:36:16.425 --> 00:36:18.205
<00:36:16.425>Either <00:36:16.891>you'll <00:36:17.358>be <00:36:17.825>celebrating

807
00:36:18.205 --> 00:36:20.725
<00:36:18.205>because <00:36:18.404>you <00:36:18.605>got <00:36:18.805>accepted <00:36:19.005>to <00:36:19.205>your <00:36:19.404>first <00:36:19.605>conference

808
00:36:20.725 --> 00:36:21.885
<00:36:20.725>and <00:36:21.073>you're <00:36:21.421>super <00:36:21.769>excited.

809
00:36:23.345 --> 00:36:26.605
<00:36:23.345>It <00:36:23.472>might <00:36:23.599>be <00:36:23.726>a <00:36:23.854>no. <00:36:23.981>And <00:36:24.108>in <00:36:24.235>that <00:36:24.363>case <00:36:24.490>ask <00:36:24.617>for <00:36:24.745>feedback.

810
00:36:27.115 --> 00:36:29.245
<00:36:27.115>It's <00:36:27.348>not <00:36:27.581>always <00:36:27.814>that <00:36:28.048>the <00:36:28.281>talk <00:36:28.515>is

811
00:36:29.245 --> 00:36:30.645
<00:36:29.245>not <00:36:29.665>relevant <00:36:30.085>or <00:36:30.505>interesting.

812
00:36:31.205 --> 00:36:32.615
<00:36:31.205>Sometimes <00:36:31.627>it's <00:36:32.051>as <00:36:32.473>simple

813
00:36:32.715 --> 00:36:35.535
<00:36:32.715>as <00:36:32.915>they've <00:36:33.115>received <00:36:33.315>multiple <00:36:33.515>submissions <00:36:33.715>for <00:36:33.915>similar <00:36:34.115>themes

814
00:36:35.635 --> 00:36:36.735
<00:36:35.635>and <00:36:35.833>they <00:36:36.031>needed <00:36:36.229>to <00:36:36.427>pick <00:36:36.625>on.

815
00:36:38.205 --> 00:36:39.225
<00:36:38.205>And <00:36:38.663>sadly, <00:36:39.123>sometimes,

816
00:36:39.505 --> 00:36:41.585
<00:36:39.505>although <00:36:39.680>it <00:36:39.855>is <00:36:40.030>getting <00:36:40.205>a <00:36:40.380>bit <00:36:40.555>better <00:36:40.730>these <00:36:40.905>days,

817
00:36:41.605 --> 00:36:45.505
<00:36:41.605>as <00:36:41.760>I <00:36:41.916>found <00:36:42.071>sometimes <00:36:42.227>some <00:36:42.382>conferences <00:36:42.538>have <00:36:42.693>some <00:36:42.849>such <00:36:43.005>high

818
00:36:45.505 --> 00:36:46.545
<00:36:45.505>volumes <00:36:45.973>of <00:36:46.441>submissions

819
00:36:46.545 --> 00:36:49.145
<00:36:46.545>that <00:36:46.700>you <00:36:46.856>might <00:36:47.011>not <00:36:47.167>hear <00:36:47.322>back <00:36:47.478>and <00:36:47.633>that's <00:36:47.789>okay <00:36:47.945>too.

820
00:36:50.505 --> 00:36:53.405
<00:36:50.505>But <00:36:50.660>once <00:36:50.816>you've <00:36:50.971>got <00:36:51.127>that <00:36:51.282>conference, <00:36:51.438>except <00:36:51.593>you <00:36:51.749>do <00:36:51.905>need

821
00:36:53.405 --> 00:36:56.425
<00:36:53.405>to <00:36:53.755>prepare, <00:36:54.105>being <00:36:54.455>an <00:36:54.805>effective

822
00:36:56.425 --> 00:36:58.025
<00:36:56.425>and <00:36:56.775>charismatic <00:36:57.125>speaker <00:36:57.475>doesn't <00:36:57.825>mean

823
00:36:58.025 --> 00:37:00.225
<00:36:58.025>that <00:36:58.165>you <00:36:58.305>can <00:36:58.445>just <00:36:58.585>jump <00:36:58.725>on <00:36:58.865>a <00:36:59.005>stage <00:36:59.145>and <00:36:59.285>say <00:36:59.425>anything

824
00:37:00.245 --> 00:37:01.465
<00:37:00.245>and <00:37:00.428>not <00:37:00.611>worry <00:37:00.794>about <00:37:00.977>it <00:37:01.160>too <00:37:01.343>much.

825
00:37:01.605 --> 00:37:02.985
<00:37:01.605>It <00:37:01.853>normally <00:37:02.101>means <00:37:02.350>as <00:37:02.598>a <00:37:02.847>speaker

826
00:37:03.415 --> 00:37:05.545
<00:37:03.415>that <00:37:03.590>you <00:37:03.765>have <00:37:03.940>prepared <00:37:04.115>what <00:37:04.290>you're <00:37:04.465>going <00:37:04.640>to <00:37:04.815>say.

827
00:37:06.975 --> 00:37:10.115
<00:37:06.975>So <00:37:07.150>build <00:37:07.325>that <00:37:07.500>deck, <00:37:07.674>dig <00:37:07.850>out <00:37:08.025>the <00:37:08.200>Figma <00:37:08.375>Designs,

828
00:37:10.665 --> 00:37:12.275
<00:37:10.665>plan <00:37:10.945>out <00:37:11.225>your <00:37:11.505>live <00:37:11.785>coding <00:37:12.065>session,

829
00:37:12.795 --> 00:37:15.355
<00:37:12.795>whatever <00:37:12.950>it <00:37:13.106>is <00:37:13.261>you're <00:37:13.417>going <00:37:13.572>to <00:37:13.728>share, <00:37:13.883>get <00:37:14.039>it <00:37:14.195>ready,

830
00:37:16.375 --> 00:37:17.955
<00:37:16.375>try <00:37:16.725>running <00:37:17.075>through <00:37:17.425>several <00:37:17.775>times

831
00:37:18.135 --> 00:37:19.595
<00:37:18.135>and <00:37:18.463>build <00:37:18.792>out <00:37:19.120>speaker <00:37:19.448>notes.

832
00:37:19.775 --> 00:37:22.955
<00:37:19.775>Now <00:37:19.930>I <00:37:20.086>used <00:37:20.241>to <00:37:20.397>build <00:37:20.552>full <00:37:20.708>scripts, <00:37:20.863>I <00:37:21.019>don't <00:37:21.175>anymore

833
00:37:23.975 --> 00:37:25.035
<00:37:23.975>and <00:37:24.452>that's <00:37:24.929>akay.

834
00:37:25.535 --> 00:37:27.315
<00:37:25.535>So <00:37:25.884>I <00:37:26.234>prefer <00:37:26.585>bullet <00:37:26.935>points

835
00:37:27.315 --> 00:37:29.515
<00:37:27.315>because <00:37:27.490>it <00:37:27.665>helps <00:37:27.840>me <00:37:28.015>tick <00:37:28.190>off <00:37:28.365>as <00:37:28.540>I <00:37:28.715>go,

836
00:37:29.985 --> 00:37:31.275
<00:37:29.985>what <00:37:30.217>things <00:37:30.449>I <00:37:30.681>need <00:37:30.913>to <00:37:31.146>cover.

837
00:37:32.095 --> 00:37:33.235
<00:37:32.095>But <00:37:32.437>everyone <00:37:32.779>is <00:37:33.121>different.

838
00:37:34.505 --> 00:37:37.605
<00:37:34.505>The <00:37:34.632>thing <00:37:34.759>that <00:37:34.886>I <00:37:35.014>would <00:37:35.141>warn <00:37:35.268>you <00:37:35.395>though <00:37:35.523>about <00:37:35.650>is <00:37:35.777>don't <00:37:35.905>use

839
00:37:37.605 --> 00:37:38.845
<00:37:37.605>PowerPoint <00:37:37.977>as <00:37:38.348>your <00:37:38.721>notes.

840
00:37:40.895 --> 00:37:43.475
<00:37:40.895>The <00:37:41.095>audience <00:37:41.295>should <00:37:41.495>be <00:37:41.695>focused <00:37:41.895>on <00:37:42.095>you <00:37:42.295>primarily.

841
00:37:43.575 --> 00:37:46.315
<00:37:43.575>And <00:37:43.714>the <00:37:43.855>slide <00:37:43.995>secondary, <00:37:44.134>they <00:37:44.274>should <00:37:44.415>be <00:37:44.555>a <00:37:44.694>support <00:37:44.835>for <00:37:44.975>you.

842
00:37:46.545 --> 00:37:48.715
<00:37:46.545>They're <00:37:46.720>not <00:37:46.895>the <00:37:47.070>thing <00:37:47.245>that's <00:37:47.420>going <00:37:47.595>to <00:37:47.770>distract <00:37:47.945>you

843
00:37:48.735 --> 00:37:50.435
<00:37:48.735>as <00:37:48.968>Deborah <00:37:49.201>Francis <00:37:49.435>White <00:37:49.668>is <00:37:49.901>saying <00:37:50.135>here.

844
00:37:51.345 --> 00:37:54.885
<00:37:51.345>So <00:37:51.484>make <00:37:51.625>sure <00:37:51.765>for <00:37:51.904>your <00:37:52.044>talk <00:37:52.185>that <00:37:52.325>you <00:37:52.464>have <00:37:52.605>clean <00:37:52.745>slides,

845
00:37:55.645 --> 00:37:57.085
<00:37:55.645>minimize <00:37:55.830>the <00:37:56.015>amount <00:37:56.200>of <00:37:56.385>bullet <00:37:56.570>points <00:37:56.755>you <00:37:56.941>have.

846
00:37:57.235 --> 00:37:59.125
<00:37:57.235>Utilize <00:37:57.701>things <00:37:58.168>like <00:37:58.635>diagrams.

847
00:37:59.555 --> 00:38:01.925
<00:37:59.555>Only <00:37:59.710>put <00:37:59.866>essential <00:38:00.021>code <00:38:00.177>on <00:38:00.332>there <00:38:00.488>if <00:38:00.643>you're <00:38:00.799>talking <00:38:00.955>about

848
00:38:01.955 --> 00:38:03.245
<00:38:01.955>code <00:38:02.342>and <00:38:02.729>use <00:38:03.116>pictures

849
00:38:03.245 --> 00:38:05.575
<00:38:03.245>and <00:38:03.478>have <00:38:03.711>fun <00:38:03.944>with <00:38:04.178>it <00:38:04.411>doesn't <00:38:04.645>need

850
00:38:05.575 --> 00:38:07.015
<00:38:05.575>to <00:38:05.834>be <00:38:06.093>super <00:38:06.352>sticky <00:38:06.611>and <00:38:06.871>formal.

851
00:38:09.075 --> 00:38:10.415
<00:38:09.075>You <00:38:09.376>also <00:38:09.678>need <00:38:09.979>to <00:38:10.281>practice.

852
00:38:10.595 --> 00:38:12.735
<00:38:10.595>And <00:38:10.734>there's <00:38:10.875>a <00:38:11.015>couple <00:38:11.154>of <00:38:11.294>things <00:38:11.435>that <00:38:11.575>I <00:38:11.714>recommend <00:38:11.855>for <00:38:11.995>this.

853
00:38:13.475 --> 00:38:17.255
<00:38:13.475>As <00:38:13.630>strange <00:38:13.786>as <00:38:13.941>it <00:38:14.097>sounds, <00:38:14.252>just <00:38:14.408>try <00:38:14.563>talking <00:38:14.719>to <00:38:14.875>yourself.

854
00:38:18.545 --> 00:38:20.435
<00:38:18.545>This <00:38:18.720>morning <00:38:18.895>when <00:38:19.070>I <00:38:19.245>was <00:38:19.420>doing <00:38:19.595>my <00:38:19.770>trial <00:38:19.945>run

855
00:38:20.455 --> 00:38:23.235
<00:38:20.455>for <00:38:20.582>this <00:38:20.709>section <00:38:20.836>here, <00:38:20.964>I <00:38:21.091>literally <00:38:21.218>stood <00:38:21.345>in <00:38:21.473>the <00:38:21.600>same <00:38:21.727>spot <00:38:21.855>I

856
00:38:23.235 --> 00:38:25.955
<00:38:23.235>am <00:38:23.390>just <00:38:23.546>now <00:38:23.701>with <00:38:23.857>my <00:38:24.012>slides <00:38:24.168>up <00:38:24.323>talking <00:38:24.479>to <00:38:24.635>myself

857
00:38:25.975 --> 00:38:28.715
<00:38:25.975>and <00:38:26.115>my <00:38:26.255>neighbors <00:38:26.395>probably <00:38:26.535>thought <00:38:26.674>some <00:38:26.815>I <00:38:26.955>was <00:38:27.095>a <00:38:27.235>bit <00:38:27.375>weird,

858
00:38:29.375 --> 00:38:30.425
<00:38:29.375>but <00:38:29.847>it's <00:38:30.320>fine

859
00:38:30.425 --> 00:38:32.585
<00:38:30.425>because <00:38:30.565>it <00:38:30.705>helped <00:38:30.845>me <00:38:30.985>get <00:38:31.125>the <00:38:31.265>talking <00:38:31.405>points <00:38:31.545>in <00:38:31.685>my <00:38:31.825>head

860
00:38:32.605 --> 00:38:34.705
<00:38:32.605>and <00:38:32.760>it <00:38:32.916>made <00:38:33.071>me <00:38:33.227>feel <00:38:33.382>comfortable <00:38:33.538>that <00:38:33.693>I <00:38:33.849>was <00:38:34.005>prepared.

861
00:38:35.985 --> 00:38:37.805
<00:38:35.985>You <00:38:36.185>can <00:38:36.385>record <00:38:36.585>yourself <00:38:36.785>and <00:38:36.985>watch <00:38:37.185>it <00:38:37.385>back,

862
00:38:38.785 --> 00:38:39.805
<00:38:38.785>but <00:38:39.014>it's <00:38:39.243>a <00:38:39.473>bit <00:38:39.703>creepy

863
00:38:40.635 --> 00:38:43.565
<00:38:40.635>because <00:38:40.810>you <00:38:40.985>don't <00:38:41.160>sound <00:38:41.335>in <00:38:41.510>a <00:38:41.685>recording <00:38:41.860>the <00:38:42.035>same

864
00:38:43.585 --> 00:38:44.685
<00:38:43.585>way <00:38:43.750>that <00:38:43.915>you <00:38:44.080>do <00:38:44.245>in <00:38:44.410>your <00:38:44.575>head.

865
00:38:45.625 --> 00:38:48.365
<00:38:45.625>But <00:38:45.752>it <00:38:45.879>is <00:38:46.006>useful <00:38:46.134>because <00:38:46.261>you <00:38:46.388>can <00:38:46.515>see <00:38:46.643>things <00:38:46.770>like <00:38:46.897>your <00:38:47.025>speed,

866
00:38:48.905 --> 00:38:51.205
<00:38:48.905>you <00:38:49.080>can <00:38:49.255>look <00:38:49.430>at <00:38:49.605>your <00:38:49.780>tone, <00:38:49.955>you <00:38:50.130>can <00:38:50.305>look

867
00:38:51.205 --> 00:38:52.365
<00:38:51.205>for <00:38:51.466>things <00:38:51.727>like <00:38:51.988>filler <00:38:52.249>words

868
00:38:52.425 --> 00:38:54.525
<00:38:52.425>and <00:38:52.625>maybe <00:38:52.825>other <00:38:53.025>things <00:38:53.225>that <00:38:53.425>you're <00:38:53.625>not <00:38:53.825>comfortable

869
00:38:54.525 --> 00:38:56.485
<00:38:54.525>with <00:38:54.680>in <00:38:54.836>your <00:38:54.991>style <00:38:55.147>that <00:38:55.302>you <00:38:55.458>can <00:38:55.613>try <00:38:55.769>and <00:38:55.925>practice.

870
00:38:57.675 --> 00:39:00.615
<00:38:57.675>But <00:38:57.850>one <00:38:58.025>exercise <00:38:58.200>that <00:38:58.375>did <00:38:58.550>help <00:38:58.725>me <00:38:58.900>as <00:38:59.075>uncomfortable

871
00:39:00.615 --> 00:39:03.215
<00:39:00.615>as <00:39:00.770>watching <00:39:00.926>yourself <00:39:01.081>back <00:39:01.237>is <00:39:01.392>was <00:39:01.548>comparing <00:39:01.703>with <00:39:01.859>a <00:39:02.015>friend.

872
00:39:03.995 --> 00:39:06.015
<00:39:03.995>So <00:39:04.228>she <00:39:04.461>watched <00:39:04.694>it, <00:39:04.928>I <00:39:05.161>watched <00:39:05.395>it

873
00:39:06.155 --> 00:39:07.775
<00:39:06.155>and <00:39:06.355>then <00:39:06.555>we <00:39:06.755>came <00:39:06.955>together <00:39:07.155>and <00:39:07.355>prepared <00:39:07.555>notes.

874
00:39:07.775 --> 00:39:09.495
<00:39:07.775>And <00:39:07.975>what <00:39:08.175>you <00:39:08.375>will <00:39:08.575>find <00:39:08.775>is <00:39:08.975>the <00:39:09.175>things

875
00:39:09.495 --> 00:39:13.315
<00:39:09.495>that <00:39:09.728>you <00:39:09.961>worry <00:39:10.194>about <00:39:10.428>in <00:39:10.661>your <00:39:10.895>presentation

876
00:39:13.435 --> 00:39:15.755
<00:39:13.435>and <00:39:13.668>delivery <00:39:13.901>will <00:39:14.134>be <00:39:14.368>different <00:39:14.601>to <00:39:14.835>theirs

877
00:39:15.755 --> 00:39:17.875
<00:39:15.755>because <00:39:15.910>there's <00:39:16.066>things <00:39:16.221>that <00:39:16.377>they'll <00:39:16.532>let <00:39:16.688>go <00:39:16.843>that <00:39:16.999>you <00:39:17.155>want

878
00:39:18.255 --> 00:39:20.435
<00:39:18.255>and <00:39:18.430>they'll <00:39:18.605>probably <00:39:18.780>have <00:39:18.955>more <00:39:19.130>positive <00:39:19.305>things <00:39:19.480>to <00:39:19.655>say,

879
00:39:20.565 --> 00:39:21.595
<00:39:20.565>especially <00:39:20.874>if <00:39:21.183>you're <00:39:21.491>like

880
00:39:21.595 --> 00:39:22.715
<00:39:21.595>me <00:39:21.739>and <00:39:21.883>you're <00:39:22.027>a <00:39:22.171>bit <00:39:22.315>of <00:39:22.459>a <00:39:22.603>pessimist.

881
00:39:24.555 --> 00:39:27.095
<00:39:24.555>So <00:39:24.754>let's <00:39:24.955>say <00:39:25.154>you've <00:39:25.355>given <00:39:25.555>that <00:39:25.754>talk, <00:39:25.955>okay,

882
00:39:27.635 --> 00:39:28.935
<00:39:27.635>you've <00:39:28.025>done <00:39:28.415>it <00:39:28.805>fantastic.

883
00:39:29.915 --> 00:39:31.855
<00:39:29.915>And <00:39:30.070>then <00:39:30.226>you <00:39:30.381>think, <00:39:30.537>oh, <00:39:30.692>what <00:39:30.848>about <00:39:31.003>q <00:39:31.159>and <00:39:31.315>a?

884
00:39:32.355 --> 00:39:35.295
<00:39:32.355>So <00:39:32.530>I'm <00:39:32.705>here <00:39:32.880>to <00:39:33.055>prepare <00:39:33.230>you <00:39:33.405>for <00:39:33.580>this <00:39:33.755>check

885
00:39:35.295 --> 00:39:36.295
<00:39:35.295>with <00:39:35.745>the <00:39:36.195>organizers.

886
00:39:36.505 --> 00:39:37.855
<00:39:36.505>Every <00:39:36.910>conference <00:39:37.315>is <00:39:37.720>different.

887
00:39:38.835 --> 00:39:41.095
<00:39:38.835>We, <00:39:39.068>our <00:39:39.301>developers <00:39:39.535>today <00:39:39.768>does <00:39:40.001>have <00:39:40.235>q

888
00:39:41.095 --> 00:39:42.495
<00:39:41.095>and <00:39:41.346>a, <00:39:41.598>I'm <00:39:41.850>cool <00:39:42.103>with <00:39:42.355>that.

889
00:39:43.485 --> 00:39:45.255
<00:39:43.485>Some <00:39:43.765>don't <00:39:44.045>though. <00:39:44.325>Some <00:39:44.605>include <00:39:44.885>q

890
00:39:45.255 --> 00:39:46.615
<00:39:45.255>and <00:39:45.429>a <00:39:45.604>as <00:39:45.779>part <00:39:45.954>of <00:39:46.129>the <00:39:46.304>talk <00:39:46.479>slot.

891
00:39:46.795 --> 00:39:48.935
<00:39:46.795>So <00:39:47.028>you <00:39:47.261>could <00:39:47.495>hypothetically <00:39:47.728>run <00:39:47.961>to <00:39:48.195>time

892
00:39:49.035 --> 00:39:51.335
<00:39:49.035>and <00:39:49.174>then <00:39:49.315>say <00:39:49.455>to <00:39:49.595>people, <00:39:49.734>come <00:39:49.875>and <00:39:50.015>speak <00:39:50.154>to <00:39:50.295>me <00:39:50.435>afterwards.

893
00:39:52.645 --> 00:39:54.695
<00:39:52.645>Some <00:39:52.878>do <00:39:53.111>have <00:39:53.345>dedicated <00:39:53.578>q <00:39:53.811>and <00:39:54.045>a,

894
00:39:54.695 --> 00:39:56.855
<00:39:54.695>but <00:39:54.850>if <00:39:55.006>you <00:39:55.161>talk <00:39:55.317>to <00:39:55.472>the <00:39:55.628>organizers, <00:39:55.783>if <00:39:55.939>you're <00:39:56.095>uncomfortable,

895
00:39:56.855 --> 00:39:58.935
<00:39:56.855>they <00:39:56.982>might <00:39:57.109>be <00:39:57.236>able <00:39:57.364>to <00:39:57.491>give <00:39:57.618>you <00:39:57.745>some <00:39:57.873>support <00:39:58.000>or <00:39:58.127>some <00:39:58.255>help.

896
00:40:00.655 --> 00:40:01.675
<00:40:00.655>But <00:40:00.838>if <00:40:01.022>you <00:40:01.205>do <00:40:01.389>give <00:40:01.573>q

897
00:40:01.675 --> 00:40:03.875
<00:40:01.675>and <00:40:01.830>a, <00:40:01.986>there <00:40:02.141>are <00:40:02.297>things <00:40:02.452>you <00:40:02.608>can <00:40:02.763>do <00:40:02.919>to <00:40:03.075>prepare.

898
00:40:03.935 --> 00:40:07.155
<00:40:03.935>So <00:40:04.090>firstly, <00:40:04.246>maybe <00:40:04.401>ask <00:40:04.557>friends <00:40:04.712>if <00:40:04.868>you've <00:40:05.023>done <00:40:05.179>trial <00:40:05.335>runs

899
00:40:07.155 --> 00:40:08.955
<00:40:07.155>with <00:40:07.505>friends <00:40:07.855>and <00:40:08.205>they <00:40:08.555>have

900
00:40:08.955 --> 00:40:10.715
<00:40:08.955>particular <00:40:09.235>questions <00:40:09.515>that <00:40:09.795>they <00:40:10.075>asked <00:40:10.355>you.

901
00:40:11.165 --> 00:40:13.395
<00:40:11.165>Those <00:40:11.320>could <00:40:11.476>be <00:40:11.631>questions <00:40:11.787>that <00:40:11.942>the <00:40:12.098>audience <00:40:12.253>might <00:40:12.409>ask <00:40:12.565>you.

902
00:40:13.415 --> 00:40:16.395
<00:40:13.415>So <00:40:13.590>research <00:40:13.765>those, <00:40:13.940>think <00:40:14.115>about <00:40:14.290>what <00:40:14.465>they <00:40:14.640>might <00:40:14.815>ask

903
00:40:16.395 --> 00:40:17.715
<00:40:16.395>and <00:40:16.692>anticipate <00:40:16.989>it <00:40:17.286>in <00:40:17.583>advance.

904
00:40:19.325 --> 00:40:21.625
<00:40:19.325>But <00:40:19.500>after <00:40:19.674>all <00:40:19.850>that, <00:40:20.024>if <00:40:20.200>you <00:40:20.375>are <00:40:20.549>standing <00:40:20.725>there

905
00:40:21.625 --> 00:40:23.865
<00:40:21.625>and <00:40:21.780>someone <00:40:21.936>asked <00:40:22.091>you <00:40:22.247>a <00:40:22.402>question <00:40:22.558>that's, <00:40:22.713>I <00:40:22.869>don't <00:40:23.025>know,

906
00:40:25.015 --> 00:40:27.545
<00:40:25.015>just <00:40:25.190>say, <00:40:25.365>I <00:40:25.540>don't <00:40:25.714>know <00:40:25.890>or <00:40:26.065>I <00:40:26.240>don't <00:40:26.415>know,

907
00:40:27.565 --> 00:40:29.785
<00:40:27.565>but <00:40:27.692>I'm <00:40:27.819>happy <00:40:27.946>to <00:40:28.074>follow <00:40:28.201>up <00:40:28.328>afterwards, <00:40:28.455>come <00:40:28.583>and <00:40:28.710>chat <00:40:28.837>to <00:40:28.965>me

908
00:40:30.325 --> 00:40:31.825
<00:40:30.325>or <00:40:30.774>DM <00:40:31.225>me <00:40:31.674>afterwards

909
00:40:31.825 --> 00:40:33.345
<00:40:31.825>and <00:40:31.977>we'll <00:40:32.129>see <00:40:32.281>if <00:40:32.433>we <00:40:32.585>can <00:40:32.736>figure <00:40:32.888>it <00:40:33.040>out <00:40:33.192>together.

910
00:40:34.615 --> 00:40:37.135
<00:40:34.615>I <00:40:34.770>don't <00:40:34.926>know <00:40:35.081>is <00:40:35.237>one <00:40:35.392>of <00:40:35.548>the <00:40:35.703>best <00:40:35.859>answers <00:40:36.015>sometimes

911
00:40:37.135 --> 00:40:38.735
<00:40:37.135>because <00:40:37.601>don't <00:40:38.068>fake <00:40:38.535>it.

912
00:40:38.825 --> 00:40:41.855
<00:40:38.825>Don't <00:40:38.964>try <00:40:39.105>and <00:40:39.245>come <00:40:39.384>across <00:40:39.524>it <00:40:39.665>and <00:40:39.805>make <00:40:39.944>up <00:40:40.085>the <00:40:40.225>answer

913
00:40:41.855 --> 00:40:44.215
<00:40:41.855>because <00:40:42.010>you <00:40:42.166>might <00:40:42.321>get <00:40:42.477>caught <00:40:42.632>out <00:40:42.788>and <00:40:42.943>might <00:40:43.099>get <00:40:43.255>awkward.

914
00:40:46.475 --> 00:40:48.725
<00:40:46.475>Just <00:40:46.674>keep <00:40:46.875>swimming, <00:40:47.075>just <00:40:47.275>keep <00:40:47.475>trying, <00:40:47.674>keep <00:40:47.875>going.

915
00:40:49.355 --> 00:40:53.245
<00:40:49.355>Okay, <00:40:49.588>since <00:40:49.821>that <00:40:50.055>first <00:40:50.288>ever <00:40:50.521>lightning <00:40:50.755>talk,

916
00:40:53.715 --> 00:40:56.165
<00:40:53.715>I've <00:40:53.842>spoken <00:40:53.969>at <00:40:54.096>a <00:40:54.224>lot <00:40:54.351>of <00:40:54.478>meet <00:40:54.605>ups, <00:40:54.733>a <00:40:54.860>lot <00:40:54.987>of <00:40:55.115>conferences

917
00:40:56.185 --> 00:40:57.645
<00:40:56.185>and <00:40:56.447>I've <00:40:56.710>met <00:40:56.973>some <00:40:57.236>wonderful <00:40:57.499>people,

918
00:40:58.685 --> 00:41:00.425
<00:40:58.685>but <00:40:58.884>you're <00:40:59.085>probably <00:40:59.285>sitting <00:40:59.485>thinking <00:40:59.685>about <00:40:59.884>the <00:41:00.085>why.

919
00:41:00.665 --> 00:41:01.865
<00:41:00.665>'cause <00:41:00.935>clearly <00:41:01.205>I <00:41:01.475>enjoy <00:41:01.745>speaking

920
00:41:02.045 --> 00:41:03.985
<00:41:02.045>and <00:41:02.220>if <00:41:02.395>it's <00:41:02.570>something <00:41:02.745>that <00:41:02.920>you're <00:41:03.095>not <00:41:03.270>necessarily <00:41:03.445>enjoying

921
00:41:04.045 --> 00:41:05.625
<00:41:04.045>to <00:41:04.245>start <00:41:04.445>with, <00:41:04.645>you <00:41:04.845>might <00:41:05.045>wonder <00:41:05.245>why <00:41:05.445>bother?

922
00:41:06.805 --> 00:41:08.985
<00:41:06.805>It <00:41:06.980>opens <00:41:07.154>doors <00:41:07.330>when <00:41:07.504>it <00:41:07.680>comes <00:41:07.855>to <00:41:08.029>your <00:41:08.205>career.

923
00:41:09.365 --> 00:41:10.665
<00:41:09.365>It <00:41:09.754>gives <00:41:10.145>you <00:41:10.535>opportunities

924
00:41:10.845 --> 00:41:13.625
<00:41:10.845>and <00:41:11.000>exposure <00:41:11.156>that <00:41:11.311>you <00:41:11.467>don't <00:41:11.622>get <00:41:11.778>if <00:41:11.933>you're <00:41:12.089>just <00:41:12.245>sitting

925
00:41:14.155 --> 00:41:16.425
<00:41:14.155>doing <00:41:14.310>your <00:41:14.466>work <00:41:14.621>nine <00:41:14.777>to <00:41:14.932>five <00:41:15.088>and <00:41:15.243>then <00:41:15.399>going <00:41:15.555>home.

926
00:41:17.835 --> 00:41:19.495
<00:41:17.835>It <00:41:18.115>helps <00:41:18.395>you <00:41:18.675>connect <00:41:18.955>with <00:41:19.235>community,

927
00:41:19.715 --> 00:41:21.055
<00:41:19.715>it <00:41:20.016>helps <00:41:20.318>give <00:41:20.619>you <00:41:20.921>opportunities

928
00:41:21.155 --> 00:41:22.775
<00:41:21.155>to <00:41:21.355>show <00:41:21.555>off <00:41:21.755>your <00:41:21.955>skills <00:41:22.155>in <00:41:22.355>other <00:41:22.555>ways

929
00:41:22.775 --> 00:41:25.935
<00:41:22.775>because <00:41:22.975>without <00:41:23.175>speaking, <00:41:23.375>I <00:41:23.575>wouldn't <00:41:23.775>have <00:41:23.975>written <00:41:24.175>articles

930
00:41:26.395 --> 00:41:27.895
<00:41:26.395>for <00:41:26.845>places <00:41:27.295>like <00:41:27.745>InfoQ.

931
00:41:29.415 --> 00:41:32.915
<00:41:29.415>I <00:41:29.570>wouldn't <00:41:29.726>have <00:41:29.881>been <00:41:30.037>on <00:41:30.192>podcasts, <00:41:30.348>which <00:41:30.503>are <00:41:30.659>great <00:41:30.815>fun.

932
00:41:34.715 --> 00:41:37.655
<00:41:34.715>And <00:41:34.870>also <00:41:35.026>I <00:41:35.181>wouldn't <00:41:35.337>have <00:41:35.492>had <00:41:35.648>the <00:41:35.803>portfolio <00:41:35.959>of <00:41:36.115>content

933
00:41:37.655 --> 00:41:41.015
<00:41:37.655>that <00:41:37.782>would've <00:41:37.909>allowed <00:41:38.036>me <00:41:38.164>to <00:41:38.291>apply <00:41:38.418>for <00:41:38.545>my <00:41:38.673>job <00:41:38.800>as <00:41:38.927>a <00:41:39.055>advocate.

934
00:41:42.065 --> 00:41:43.925
<00:41:42.065>And <00:41:42.415>I <00:41:42.765>initially <00:41:43.115>wasn't <00:41:43.465>comfortable.

935
00:41:43.965 --> 00:41:44.925
<00:41:43.965>I <00:41:44.137>thought, <00:41:44.310>I <00:41:44.483>don't <00:41:44.656>know, <00:41:44.829>elastic

936
00:41:44.925 --> 00:41:46.165
<00:41:44.925>search, <00:41:45.148>I've <00:41:45.371>never <00:41:45.594>used <00:41:45.817>it <00:41:46.041>before.

937
00:41:46.545 --> 00:41:47.845
<00:41:46.545>Why <00:41:46.740>would <00:41:46.935>I <00:41:47.130>apply <00:41:47.325>for <00:41:47.520>that <00:41:47.714>role?

938
00:41:49.225 --> 00:41:50.665
<00:41:49.225>I <00:41:49.484>thought <00:41:49.743>about <00:41:50.002>what <00:41:50.261>Helen <00:41:50.520>said.

939
00:41:51.285 --> 00:41:54.025
<00:41:51.285>So <00:41:51.460>I <00:41:51.634>did <00:41:51.810>the <00:41:51.984>same <00:41:52.160>thing <00:41:52.335>with <00:41:52.509>the <00:41:52.685>application

940
00:41:55.365 --> 00:41:56.985
<00:41:55.365>and <00:41:55.540>I <00:41:55.714>ended <00:41:55.890>up <00:41:56.064>with <00:41:56.240>the <00:41:56.415>job <00:41:56.589>at <00:41:56.765>Elastic

941
00:41:57.015 --> 00:41:59.865
<00:41:57.015>because <00:41:57.248>I <00:41:57.481>had <00:41:57.714>a <00:41:57.948>portfolio <00:41:58.181>of <00:41:58.415>talks

942
00:41:59.925 --> 00:42:02.145
<00:41:59.925>and <00:42:00.052>content <00:42:00.179>that <00:42:00.306>showed <00:42:00.434>what <00:42:00.561>I <00:42:00.688>knew <00:42:00.815>and <00:42:00.943>what <00:42:01.070>I <00:42:01.197>could <00:42:01.325>do.

943
00:42:03.435 --> 00:42:05.855
<00:42:03.435>I'm <00:42:03.590>not <00:42:03.746>saying <00:42:03.901>it's <00:42:04.057>been <00:42:04.212>smooth <00:42:04.368>sailing, <00:42:04.523>I've <00:42:04.679>had <00:42:04.835>setbacks,

944
00:42:05.855 --> 00:42:07.775
<00:42:05.855>I've <00:42:06.055>had <00:42:06.255>times <00:42:06.455>when <00:42:06.655>talks <00:42:06.855>don't <00:42:07.055>work <00:42:07.255>when

945
00:42:07.775 --> 00:42:08.935
<00:42:07.775>things <00:42:08.123>go <00:42:08.471>disastrously <00:42:08.819>wrong.

946
00:42:09.555 --> 00:42:11.605
<00:42:09.555>And <00:42:09.730>every <00:42:09.904>time <00:42:10.080>that <00:42:10.254>happens <00:42:10.430>I <00:42:10.605>still <00:42:10.779>feel <00:42:10.955>like

947
00:42:11.605 --> 00:42:14.365
<00:42:11.605>that <00:42:11.745>gazelle <00:42:11.885>on <00:42:12.025>the <00:42:12.165>savanna <00:42:12.305>about <00:42:12.445>to <00:42:12.585>eaten <00:42:12.725>by <00:42:12.865>the <00:42:13.005>lines.

948
00:42:15.745 --> 00:42:18.005
<00:42:15.745>But <00:42:15.884>I'm <00:42:16.025>still <00:42:16.165>part <00:42:16.305>of <00:42:16.444>the <00:42:16.585>pride <00:42:16.725>and <00:42:16.865>I'm <00:42:17.005>still <00:42:17.145>speaking

949
00:42:18.105 --> 00:42:20.485
<00:42:18.105>and <00:42:18.260>enjoying <00:42:18.416>it <00:42:18.571>and <00:42:18.727>I'm <00:42:18.882>sure <00:42:19.038>that <00:42:19.193>you <00:42:19.349>will <00:42:19.505>too.

950
00:42:22.125 --> 00:42:23.865
<00:42:22.125>So <00:42:22.475>here <00:42:22.825>are <00:42:23.175>the <00:42:23.525>resources.

951
00:42:24.005 --> 00:42:26.585
<00:42:24.005>I'm <00:42:24.160>happy <00:42:24.316>to <00:42:24.471>put <00:42:24.627>these <00:42:24.782>out <00:42:24.938>on <00:42:25.093>social <00:42:25.249>media <00:42:25.405>afterwards.

952
00:42:26.585 --> 00:42:28.305
<00:42:26.585>Otherwise <00:42:26.785>DM <00:42:26.985>me <00:42:27.185>if <00:42:27.385>you <00:42:27.585>would <00:42:27.785>like <00:42:27.985>them.

953
00:42:28.975 --> 00:42:30.995
<00:42:28.975>And <00:42:29.130>with <00:42:29.286>that, <00:42:29.441>I <00:42:29.597>wanna <00:42:29.752>say <00:42:29.908>thank <00:42:30.063>you <00:42:30.219>so <00:42:30.375>much.

954
00:42:31.975 --> 00:42:32.995
<00:42:31.975>We <00:42:32.204>have <00:42:32.433>time <00:42:32.663>for <00:42:32.893>Q

955
00:42:32.995 --> 00:42:34.035
<00:42:32.995>and <00:42:33.182>a <00:42:33.369>now, <00:42:33.556>so <00:42:33.743>I'm <00:42:33.931>happy

956
00:42:34.035 --> 00:42:37.915
<00:42:34.035>to <00:42:34.210>hear <00:42:34.384>your <00:42:34.560>questions <00:42:34.734>about <00:42:34.910>public <00:42:35.085>speaking, <00:42:35.259>about <00:42:35.435>CFPs,

957
00:42:38.285 --> 00:42:40.195
<00:42:38.285>about <00:42:38.634>career, <00:42:38.984>anything <00:42:39.335>at <00:42:39.685>all.

958
00:42:40.345 --> 00:42:41.555
<00:42:40.345>Feel <00:42:40.562>free <00:42:40.780>to <00:42:40.998>fire <00:42:41.216>them <00:42:41.433>in

959
00:42:45.955 --> 00:42:46.955
<00:42:45.955>Call. <00:42:46.404>Hello <00:42:46.855>again.

960
00:42:46.955 --> 00:42:49.325
<00:42:46.955>Thank <00:42:47.188>you <00:42:47.421>so <00:42:47.654>much <00:42:47.888>for <00:42:48.121>the <00:42:48.355>talk.

961
00:42:49.705 --> 00:42:52.885
<00:42:49.705>It <00:42:49.845>was <00:42:49.985>really <00:42:50.125>awesome. <00:42:50.265>Also, <00:42:50.404>I <00:42:50.545>think <00:42:50.685>a <00:42:50.825>very <00:42:50.965>good <00:42:51.105>talk

962
00:42:52.905 --> 00:42:54.805
<00:42:52.905>to <00:42:53.138>kick <00:42:53.371>off <00:42:53.605>a <00:42:53.838>track <00:42:54.071>like <00:42:54.305>this.

963
00:42:55.255 --> 00:42:56.765
<00:42:55.255>Thank <00:42:55.594>you. <00:42:55.934>That's <00:42:56.274>very <00:42:56.614>cool.

964
00:42:57.505 --> 00:43:00.365
<00:42:57.505>And <00:42:57.645>I'm <00:42:57.785>sure <00:42:57.925>you <00:42:58.065>are <00:42:58.205>taken <00:42:58.345>the <00:42:58.485>fear <00:42:58.625>away <00:42:58.765>from <00:42:58.905>some

965
00:43:00.365 --> 00:43:04.125
<00:43:00.365>of <00:43:00.714>our <00:43:01.064>few <00:43:01.415>regarding <00:43:01.765>speaking

966
00:43:04.265 --> 00:43:05.725
<00:43:04.265>or <00:43:04.922>applic <00:43:05.578>application.

967
00:43:06.305 --> 00:43:08.685
<00:43:06.305>You're <00:43:06.504>totally <00:43:06.705>right. <00:43:06.904>It <00:43:07.105>starts <00:43:07.305>with <00:43:07.504>the <00:43:07.705>application,

968
00:43:08.705 --> 00:43:10.725
<00:43:08.705>not <00:43:08.904>the <00:43:09.105>speaking <00:43:09.305>itself <00:43:09.505>and <00:43:09.705>that's <00:43:09.904>like <00:43:10.105>the,

969
00:43:11.105 --> 00:43:12.885
<00:43:11.105>the <00:43:11.455>first <00:43:11.805>step <00:43:12.155>to <00:43:12.505>manage.

970
00:43:14.145 --> 00:43:17.845
<00:43:14.145>Really <00:43:14.272>loved <00:43:14.399>it. <00:43:14.526>So <00:43:14.654>yeah, <00:43:14.781>you <00:43:14.908>also <00:43:15.035>talked <00:43:15.163>about <00:43:15.290>q <00:43:15.417>and <00:43:15.545>a.

971
00:43:18.125 --> 00:43:21.365
<00:43:18.125>I <00:43:18.241>would <00:43:18.358>say <00:43:18.475>we <00:43:18.591>jump <00:43:18.708>into <00:43:18.825>a <00:43:18.941>quick <00:43:19.058>one <00:43:19.175>if <00:43:19.291>you <00:43:19.408>are <00:43:19.525>ready.

972
00:43:22.025 --> 00:43:26.605
<00:43:22.025>So, <00:43:22.225>um, <00:43:22.425>Kelly, <00:43:22.625>you <00:43:22.825>are <00:43:23.025>a <00:43:23.225>developer <00:43:23.425>advocate.

973
00:43:27.065 --> 00:43:31.565
<00:43:27.065>Yes. <00:43:27.205>So, <00:43:27.345>um, <00:43:27.485>I <00:43:27.625>mean <00:43:27.765>we <00:43:27.905>sometimes <00:43:28.045>have <00:43:28.185>developer <00:43:28.325>advocates <00:43:28.465>at

974
00:43:31.565 --> 00:43:35.245
<00:43:31.565>our <00:43:31.720>live <00:43:31.876>days, <00:43:32.031>but <00:43:32.187>the <00:43:32.342>question <00:43:32.498>comes <00:43:32.653>up <00:43:32.809>pretty <00:43:32.965>often.

975
00:43:35.715 --> 00:43:36.965
<00:43:35.715>What <00:43:36.090>exactly <00:43:36.465>is <00:43:36.840>this?

976
00:43:37.025 --> 00:43:39.645
<00:43:37.025>What's <00:43:37.200>this <00:43:37.375>like, <00:43:37.550>what <00:43:37.725>is <00:43:37.900>like <00:43:38.075>your, <00:43:38.250>your <00:43:38.425>typical

977
00:43:40.195 --> 00:43:42.285
<00:43:40.195>work <00:43:40.428>day <00:43:40.661>if <00:43:40.895>something <00:43:41.128>like <00:43:41.361>that <00:43:41.595>exists?

978
00:43:43.035 --> 00:43:45.405
<00:43:43.035>It's <00:43:43.210>a <00:43:43.384>good <00:43:43.560>question <00:43:43.734>because <00:43:43.910>to <00:43:44.085>be <00:43:44.259>perfectly <00:43:44.435>honest,

979
00:43:45.475 --> 00:43:47.965
<00:43:45.475>when <00:43:45.674>I <00:43:45.875>started, <00:43:46.075>I <00:43:46.275>started <00:43:46.475>working <00:43:46.674>in <00:43:46.875>tech.

980
00:43:48.185 --> 00:43:49.325
<00:43:48.185>I'd <00:43:48.390>never <00:43:48.595>heard <00:43:48.800>of <00:43:49.005>this <00:43:49.211>term

981
00:43:49.875 --> 00:43:51.605
<00:43:49.875>developer <00:43:50.155>advocate, <00:43:50.435>like <00:43:50.715>what <00:43:50.995>is <00:43:51.275>that?

982
00:43:51.605 --> 00:43:53.045
<00:43:51.605>Even <00:43:51.790>when <00:43:51.975>I <00:43:52.160>started <00:43:52.345>applying <00:43:52.530>for <00:43:52.715>these <00:43:52.901>jobs,

983
00:43:53.165 --> 00:43:54.365
<00:43:53.165>I <00:43:53.381>wasn't <00:43:53.596>a <00:43:53.812>hundred <00:43:54.029>percent <00:43:54.245>sure

984
00:43:54.365 --> 00:43:57.085
<00:43:54.365>because <00:43:54.564>as <00:43:54.765>I've <00:43:54.964>found <00:43:55.165>over <00:43:55.365>the <00:43:55.564>past <00:43:55.765>couple

985
00:43:57.085 --> 00:43:58.205
<00:43:57.085>of <00:43:57.229>years, <00:43:57.373>there <00:43:57.517>is <00:43:57.661>a <00:43:57.805>lot <00:43:57.949>of <00:43:58.093>variety.

986
00:43:58.585 --> 00:44:02.205
<00:43:58.585>But <00:43:58.785>generally <00:43:58.985>developer <00:43:59.185>advocate <00:43:59.385>is <00:43:59.585>in <00:43:59.785>simple <00:43:59.985>terms,

987
00:44:03.225 --> 00:44:04.365
<00:44:03.225>I'm <00:44:03.481>a <00:44:03.738>developer <00:44:03.994>that <00:44:04.250>speaks

988
00:44:04.825 --> 00:44:07.685
<00:44:04.825>and <00:44:05.000>shows <00:44:05.174>content <00:44:05.350>on <00:44:05.524>how <00:44:05.700>you <00:44:05.875>can <00:44:06.049>do <00:44:06.225>things

989
00:44:07.795 --> 00:44:10.445
<00:44:07.795>with <00:44:07.995>a <00:44:08.195>company's <00:44:08.395>products, <00:44:08.595>preferably <00:44:08.795>the <00:44:08.995>free <00:44:09.195>stuff.

990
00:44:11.385 --> 00:44:14.125
<00:44:11.385>Um, <00:44:11.492>so <00:44:11.600>I <00:44:11.708>work <00:44:11.815>at <00:44:11.923>Elastic, <00:44:12.031>which <00:44:12.138>means <00:44:12.246>I <00:44:12.354>do <00:44:12.461>a <00:44:12.569>lot <00:44:12.677>of <00:44:12.785>stuff

991
00:44:14.125 --> 00:44:16.885
<00:44:14.125>with <00:44:14.300>elastic <00:44:14.475>search <00:44:14.650>and <00:44:14.825>some <00:44:15.000>DevOps <00:44:15.175>things <00:44:15.350>as <00:44:15.525>well.

992
00:44:17.265 --> 00:44:21.005
<00:44:17.265>Um, <00:44:17.404>but <00:44:17.545>a <00:44:17.685>typical <00:44:17.825>day <00:44:17.964>for <00:44:18.105>me <00:44:18.245>is <00:44:18.384>actually <00:44:18.525>quite <00:44:18.665>varied

993
00:44:21.005 --> 00:44:23.925
<00:44:21.005>because <00:44:21.180>I <00:44:21.355>have <00:44:21.530>days <00:44:21.705>where <00:44:21.880>I'm <00:44:22.055>at <00:44:22.230>a <00:44:22.405>conference

994
00:44:23.925 --> 00:44:25.565
<00:44:23.925>where <00:44:24.205>I'm <00:44:24.485>the <00:44:24.765>person <00:44:25.045>that <00:44:25.325>chats

995
00:44:25.565 --> 00:44:28.245
<00:44:25.565>to <00:44:25.720>you <00:44:25.876>who's <00:44:26.031>standing <00:44:26.187>at <00:44:26.342>the <00:44:26.498>booth <00:44:26.653>answering <00:44:26.809>your <00:44:26.965>questions.

996
00:44:29.025 --> 00:44:31.565
<00:44:29.025>Um, <00:44:29.200>sometimes <00:44:29.375>I'm <00:44:29.550>up <00:44:29.725>giving <00:44:29.900>a <00:44:30.075>talk <00:44:30.250>like <00:44:30.425>this.

997
00:44:32.225 --> 00:44:35.125
<00:44:32.225>Um, <00:44:32.341>but <00:44:32.458>if <00:44:32.575>I <00:44:32.691>have <00:44:32.808>a <00:44:32.924>day <00:44:33.041>at <00:44:33.158>home, <00:44:33.275>which <00:44:33.391>is <00:44:33.508>very <00:44:33.625>common

998
00:44:35.145 --> 00:44:37.845
<00:44:35.145>as <00:44:35.378>well, <00:44:35.611>um, <00:44:35.845>it's <00:44:36.078>about <00:44:36.311>writing <00:44:36.545>content.

999
00:44:37.945 --> 00:44:39.245
<00:44:37.945>So <00:44:38.179>I <00:44:38.413>might <00:44:38.647>be <00:44:38.881>writing <00:44:39.115>blogs,

1000
00:44:39.285 --> 00:44:42.125
<00:44:39.285>I <00:44:39.424>might <00:44:39.565>be <00:44:39.705>building <00:44:39.845>code <00:44:39.984>samples <00:44:40.125>of <00:44:40.265>how <00:44:40.404>to <00:44:40.545>do <00:44:40.685>things.

1001
00:44:42.945 --> 00:44:45.445
<00:44:42.945>Um, <00:44:43.145>I <00:44:43.345>tend <00:44:43.545>to <00:44:43.745>chat <00:44:43.945>with <00:44:44.145>other <00:44:44.345>advocates.

1002
00:44:45.445 --> 00:44:46.925
<00:44:45.445>So <00:44:45.778>there's <00:44:46.111>things <00:44:46.444>like <00:44:46.777>mentorship

1003
00:44:46.925 --> 00:44:48.245
<00:44:46.925>and <00:44:47.519>support, <00:44:48.113>particularly

1004
00:44:48.245 --> 00:44:49.925
<00:44:48.245>as <00:44:48.478>you <00:44:48.711>progress <00:44:48.944>up <00:44:49.178>to <00:44:49.411>senior <00:44:49.645>levels.

1005
00:44:50.665 --> 00:44:54.085
<00:44:50.665>So <00:44:50.898>I'm <00:44:51.131>pretty <00:44:51.365>much <00:44:51.598>my <00:44:51.831>ratio <00:44:52.065>compared

1006
00:44:54.085 --> 00:44:55.685
<00:44:54.085>to <00:44:54.285>being <00:44:54.485>an <00:44:54.685>engineer <00:44:54.885>is <00:44:55.085>I <00:44:55.285>do <00:44:55.485>write

1007
00:44:56.445 --> 00:44:58.485
<00:44:56.445>actually <00:44:56.678>in <00:44:56.911>some <00:44:57.145>instances <00:44:57.378>more <00:44:57.611>code <00:44:57.845>depends

1008
00:44:58.485 --> 00:44:59.565
<00:44:58.485>on <00:44:58.647>some <00:44:58.809>of <00:44:58.971>the <00:44:59.133>roles <00:44:59.295>I've <00:44:59.457>had.

1009
00:45:00.425 --> 00:45:03.485
<00:45:00.425>Um, <00:45:00.565>but <00:45:00.705>it's <00:45:00.845>definitely <00:45:00.985>about <00:45:01.125>being <00:45:01.265>able <00:45:01.405>to <00:45:01.545>code, <00:45:01.685>being <00:45:01.825>able

1010
00:45:03.485 --> 00:45:07.085
<00:45:03.485>to <00:45:03.660>write <00:45:03.835>and <00:45:04.010>convey <00:45:04.185>knowledge <00:45:04.360>to <00:45:04.535>help <00:45:04.710>developers <00:45:04.885>out.

1011
00:45:07.085 --> 00:45:08.085
<00:45:07.085>That's <00:45:07.265>when <00:45:07.445>I <00:45:07.625>think <00:45:07.805>it <00:45:07.985>does.

1012
00:45:09.925 --> 00:45:13.305
<00:45:09.925>So <00:45:10.205>very <00:45:10.485>various <00:45:10.765>tasks, <00:45:11.045>like <00:45:11.325>really?

1013
00:45:14.565 --> 00:45:16.305
<00:45:14.565>Yes, <00:45:14.765>I <00:45:14.965>mean <00:45:15.165>I <00:45:15.365>do <00:45:15.565>sort <00:45:15.765>of <00:45:15.965>things.

1014
00:45:16.465 --> 00:45:19.025
<00:45:16.465>I <00:45:16.620>even <00:45:16.776>answer <00:45:16.931>questions <00:45:17.087>on <00:45:17.242>the <00:45:17.398>discussion <00:45:17.553>forums <00:45:17.709>as <00:45:17.865>well.

1015
00:45:19.165 --> 00:45:20.825
<00:45:19.165>So, <00:45:19.365>which <00:45:19.565>is <00:45:19.765>one <00:45:19.965>of <00:45:20.165>the <00:45:20.365>nice <00:45:20.565>things,

1016
00:45:21.055 --> 00:45:23.865
<00:45:21.055>it's <00:45:21.288>a <00:45:21.521>very <00:45:21.754>varied <00:45:21.988>job. <00:45:22.221>Um, <00:45:22.455>so

1017
00:45:23.895 --> 00:45:26.985
<00:45:23.895>Also <00:45:24.070>also <00:45:24.245>like <00:45:24.420>of <00:45:24.595>kind <00:45:24.770>of <00:45:24.945>a <00:45:25.120>customer <00:45:25.295>support,

1018
00:45:27.365 --> 00:45:31.305
<00:45:27.365>but <00:45:27.598>like, <00:45:27.831>not <00:45:28.064>customer <00:45:28.298>but <00:45:28.531>developer <00:45:28.765>orientated.

1019
00:45:31.925 --> 00:45:33.385
<00:45:31.925>Yes, <00:45:32.582>developer <00:45:33.239>oriented.

1020
00:45:33.645 --> 00:45:35.105
<00:45:33.645>So <00:45:33.864>for <00:45:34.083>example, <00:45:34.302>if <00:45:34.521>you're <00:45:34.740>not <00:45:34.959>wanting

1021
00:45:35.105 --> 00:45:36.505
<00:45:35.105>to <00:45:35.420>raise <00:45:35.735>formal <00:45:36.050>support <00:45:36.365>tickets

1022
00:45:36.645 --> 00:45:39.505
<00:45:36.645>and <00:45:36.845>you're <00:45:37.045>just <00:45:37.245>wanting <00:45:37.445>to <00:45:37.645>chat <00:45:37.845>about <00:45:38.045>how

1023
00:45:39.505 --> 00:45:41.865
<00:45:39.505>to <00:45:39.680>do <00:45:39.855>particular <00:45:40.030>things, <00:45:40.205>I <00:45:40.380>will <00:45:40.555>be <00:45:40.730>the <00:45:40.905>person

1024
00:45:41.865 --> 00:45:43.625
<00:45:41.865>that's <00:45:42.145>in <00:45:42.424>there <00:45:42.705>kind <00:45:42.984>of <00:45:43.265>hoping

1025
00:45:43.655 --> 00:45:46.225
<00:45:43.655>that <00:45:43.888>your <00:45:44.121>question <00:45:44.355>either <00:45:44.588>answering <00:45:44.821>your <00:45:45.055>question

1026
00:45:46.525 --> 00:45:48.905
<00:45:46.525>or <00:45:46.700>helping <00:45:46.875>other <00:45:47.050>developers <00:45:47.225>to <00:45:47.400>get <00:45:47.575>your <00:45:47.750>question <00:45:47.925>answered.

1027
00:45:49.005 --> 00:45:50.005
Yes.

1028
00:45:50.415 --> 00:45:52.465
<00:45:50.415>Awesome. <00:45:50.695>That, <00:45:50.975>that <00:45:51.255>sounds <00:45:51.535>very <00:45:51.815>awesome.

1029
00:45:52.515 --> 00:45:54.705
<00:45:52.515>Thank <00:45:52.690>you <00:45:52.865>so <00:45:53.040>much <00:45:53.214>for <00:45:53.390>answering <00:45:53.565>the <00:45:53.740>question, <00:45:53.915>Kali.

1030
00:45:54.805 --> 00:45:57.745
<00:45:54.805>And <00:45:55.004>maybe <00:45:55.205>let's <00:45:55.404>circle <00:45:55.605>back, <00:45:55.805>back <00:45:56.004>a <00:45:56.205>bit.

1031
00:45:57.765 --> 00:46:01.665
<00:45:57.765>We <00:45:57.904>now <00:45:58.045>talked <00:45:58.185>about <00:45:58.325>your <00:45:58.464>current <00:45:58.605>role <00:45:58.745>and <00:45:58.884>what <00:45:59.025>defines <00:45:59.165>it.

1032
00:46:01.915 --> 00:46:03.985
<00:46:01.915>Maybe <00:46:02.090>would <00:46:02.265>you <00:46:02.440>mind <00:46:02.615>sharing <00:46:02.790>a <00:46:02.965>bit <00:46:03.140>with <00:46:03.315>us

1033
00:46:04.325 --> 00:46:07.265
<00:46:04.325>how <00:46:04.480>you <00:46:04.636>got <00:46:04.791>interested <00:46:04.947>in <00:46:05.102>tech <00:46:05.258>at <00:46:05.413>the <00:46:05.569>first <00:46:05.725>place

1034
00:46:07.365 --> 00:46:09.305
<00:46:07.365>and <00:46:07.714>how <00:46:08.064>you <00:46:08.415>started <00:46:08.765>Yes.

1035
00:46:09.305 --> 00:46:12.265
<00:46:09.305>To <00:46:09.504>get <00:46:09.705>interested <00:46:09.904>in <00:46:10.105>development <00:46:10.305>in <00:46:10.504>software <00:46:10.705>development.

1036
00:46:12.895 --> 00:46:16.785
<00:46:12.895>Yeah, <00:46:13.095>absolutely. <00:46:13.295>So <00:46:13.495>my <00:46:13.695>route <00:46:13.895>into <00:46:14.095>tech <00:46:14.295>was

1037
00:46:16.785 --> 00:46:18.265
<00:46:16.785>partially <00:46:17.051>inspired <00:46:17.317>by <00:46:17.584>a <00:46:17.850>role <00:46:18.116>model.

1038
00:46:18.405 --> 00:46:22.305
<00:46:18.405>So <00:46:18.521>I <00:46:18.638>have <00:46:18.755>an <00:46:18.871>older <00:46:18.988>sister <00:46:19.105>who <00:46:19.221>is <00:46:19.338>11 <00:46:19.455>years <00:46:19.571>older <00:46:19.688>than <00:46:19.805>me

1039
00:46:23.045 --> 00:46:26.145
<00:46:23.045>and <00:46:23.220>um, <00:46:23.395>her <00:46:23.570>first <00:46:23.745>job <00:46:23.920>was <00:46:24.095>working <00:46:24.270>in <00:46:24.445>tech

1040
00:46:26.205 --> 00:46:29.265
<00:46:26.205>but <00:46:26.380>she <00:46:26.555>was <00:46:26.730>working <00:46:26.904>more <00:46:27.080>on <00:46:27.255>the <00:46:27.430>infrastructure <00:46:27.605>side.

1041
00:46:30.205 --> 00:46:33.505
<00:46:30.205>Um, <00:46:30.312>so, <00:46:30.420>but <00:46:30.528>she <00:46:30.635>was <00:46:30.743>also, <00:46:30.851>I <00:46:30.958>think <00:46:31.066>we <00:46:31.174>all <00:46:31.281>can <00:46:31.389>relate <00:46:31.497>to <00:46:31.605>this,

1042
00:46:33.505 --> 00:46:35.145
<00:46:33.505>she <00:46:33.738>was <00:46:33.971>it <00:46:34.205>support <00:46:34.438>for <00:46:34.671>my <00:46:34.905>parents.

1043
00:46:35.205 --> 00:46:36.785
<00:46:35.205>So <00:46:35.380>whenever <00:46:35.555>there <00:46:35.730>was <00:46:35.904>an <00:46:36.080>issue <00:46:36.255>with <00:46:36.430>their <00:46:36.605>computer

1044
00:46:37.165 --> 00:46:39.265
<00:46:37.165>or <00:46:37.305>their <00:46:37.445>printer <00:46:37.585>or <00:46:37.725>whatever <00:46:37.865>it <00:46:38.005>is, <00:46:38.145>she <00:46:38.285>was <00:46:38.425>the <00:46:38.565>one

1045
00:46:39.265 --> 00:46:40.985
<00:46:39.265>that <00:46:39.440>was <00:46:39.615>coming <00:46:39.790>over <00:46:39.964>and <00:46:40.140>trying <00:46:40.315>to <00:46:40.490>fix <00:46:40.665>it.

1046
00:46:41.565 --> 00:46:43.345
<00:46:41.565>So <00:46:41.720>I <00:46:41.876>spent <00:46:42.031>a <00:46:42.187>lot <00:46:42.342>of <00:46:42.498>time <00:46:42.653>with <00:46:42.809>her <00:46:42.965>seeing

1047
00:46:43.345 --> 00:46:44.665
<00:46:43.345>what <00:46:43.582>she <00:46:43.820>was <00:46:44.057>doing <00:46:44.295>with <00:46:44.533>computers.

1048
00:46:44.965 --> 00:46:46.585
<00:46:44.965>Um, <00:46:45.165>and <00:46:45.365>I <00:46:45.565>thought <00:46:45.765>it <00:46:45.965>was <00:46:46.165>pretty <00:46:46.365>cool.

1049
00:46:46.925 --> 00:46:49.825
<00:46:46.925>And <00:46:47.080>then <00:46:47.236>later <00:46:47.391>on <00:46:47.547>through <00:46:47.702>high <00:46:47.858>school <00:46:48.013>I <00:46:48.169>started <00:46:48.325>getting

1050
00:46:49.825 --> 00:46:50.865
<00:46:49.825>to <00:46:50.136>do <00:46:50.448>some <00:46:50.761>coding

1051
00:46:51.645 --> 00:46:53.745
<00:46:51.645>and <00:46:51.820>I <00:46:51.995>quite <00:46:52.170>liked <00:46:52.345>more <00:46:52.520>of <00:46:52.695>the <00:46:52.870>software <00:46:53.045>side

1052
00:46:53.765 --> 00:46:55.145
<00:46:53.765>and <00:46:54.013>being <00:46:54.261>able <00:46:54.510>to <00:46:54.758>build <00:46:55.007>something

1053
00:46:55.165 --> 00:46:56.305
<00:46:55.165>and <00:46:55.370>I, <00:46:55.575>I <00:46:55.780>liked <00:46:55.985>being <00:46:56.191>able

1054
00:46:56.305 --> 00:46:58.265
<00:46:56.305>to <00:46:56.504>solve <00:46:56.705>a <00:46:56.904>problem <00:46:57.105>in <00:46:57.305>a <00:46:57.504>practical <00:46:57.705>way,

1055
00:46:58.265 --> 00:47:00.665
<00:46:58.265>particularly <00:46:58.464>since <00:46:58.665>I've <00:46:58.865>always <00:46:59.065>loved <00:46:59.265>things <00:46:59.464>like <00:46:59.665>maths

1056
00:47:00.885 --> 00:47:02.145
<00:47:00.885>and <00:47:01.452>and <00:47:02.019>sciences.

1057
00:47:03.125 --> 00:47:05.985
<00:47:03.125>And <00:47:03.265>from <00:47:03.405>there <00:47:03.545>that <00:47:03.685>informed <00:47:03.825>my <00:47:03.965>choice <00:47:04.105>to <00:47:04.245>go <00:47:04.385>to <00:47:04.525>university

1058
00:47:06.045 --> 00:47:09.625
<00:47:06.045>to <00:47:06.200>study <00:47:06.356>computer <00:47:06.511>science, <00:47:06.667>um, <00:47:06.822>which <00:47:06.978>I <00:47:07.133>did <00:47:07.289>at <00:47:07.445>Glasgow.

1059
00:47:09.685 --> 00:47:13.505
<00:47:09.685>And <00:47:09.825>then <00:47:09.965>from <00:47:10.105>there <00:47:10.245>I <00:47:10.384>went <00:47:10.525>and <00:47:10.665>was <00:47:10.805>applying <00:47:10.945>for <00:47:11.085>internships.

1060
00:47:13.985 --> 00:47:18.385
<00:47:13.985>I <00:47:14.185>started <00:47:14.385>applying <00:47:14.585>for <00:47:14.785>internships <00:47:14.985>in <00:47:15.185>2009, <00:47:15.385>2008.

1061
00:47:18.545 --> 00:47:21.265
<00:47:18.545>That <00:47:18.745>time <00:47:18.945>when <00:47:19.145>the <00:47:19.345>financial <00:47:19.545>crash <00:47:19.745>was <00:47:19.945>happening.

1062
00:47:21.325 --> 00:47:23.425
<00:47:21.325>And <00:47:21.558>because <00:47:21.791>it <00:47:22.024>was <00:47:22.258>dominating <00:47:22.491>the <00:47:22.725>news,

1063
00:47:23.545 --> 00:47:24.905
<00:47:23.545>I <00:47:23.749>actually <00:47:23.953>got <00:47:24.157>quite <00:47:24.361>interested <00:47:24.565>in <00:47:24.769>finance.

1064
00:47:25.325 --> 00:47:26.825
<00:47:25.325>So <00:47:25.517>the <00:47:25.710>idea <00:47:25.903>of <00:47:26.096>working <00:47:26.289>for <00:47:26.482>a <00:47:26.674>bank

1065
00:47:26.845 --> 00:47:28.985
<00:47:26.845>and <00:47:27.311>building <00:47:27.778>software <00:47:28.245>with

1066
00:47:29.085 --> 00:47:31.445
<00:47:29.085>that <00:47:29.260>kinda <00:47:29.435>knowledge <00:47:29.610>domain <00:47:29.785>was <00:47:29.960>quite <00:47:30.135>interesting <00:47:30.310>to <00:47:30.485>me.

1067
00:47:31.465 --> 00:47:33.325
<00:47:31.465>So <00:47:31.620>that's <00:47:31.776>how <00:47:31.931>I <00:47:32.087>ended <00:47:32.242>up <00:47:32.398>getting <00:47:32.553>my <00:47:32.709>first <00:47:32.865>job.

1068
00:47:33.405 --> 00:47:35.555
<00:47:33.405>I <00:47:33.638>got <00:47:33.871>an <00:47:34.105>internship <00:47:34.338>at <00:47:34.571>a <00:47:34.805>bank

1069
00:47:35.615 --> 00:47:37.395
<00:47:35.615>and <00:47:35.814>from <00:47:36.015>there <00:47:36.214>I <00:47:36.415>got <00:47:36.615>an <00:47:36.814>offer <00:47:37.015>on

1070
00:47:37.395 --> 00:47:38.475
<00:47:37.395>to <00:47:37.638>join <00:47:37.881>their <00:47:38.124>graduate <00:47:38.366>program.

1071
00:47:38.695 --> 00:47:41.195
<00:47:38.695>And <00:47:38.822>from <00:47:38.949>there <00:47:39.076>i, <00:47:39.204>I <00:47:39.331>got <00:47:39.458>into <00:47:39.585>tech, <00:47:39.713>which <00:47:39.840>is <00:47:39.967>pretty <00:47:40.095>cool.

1072
00:47:42.425 --> 00:47:45.945
<00:47:42.425>Awesome. <00:47:42.580>I <00:47:42.736>I <00:47:42.891>understand <00:47:43.047>the <00:47:43.202>part <00:47:43.358>with <00:47:43.513>like <00:47:43.669>being <00:47:43.825>the,

1073
00:47:46.005 --> 00:47:50.305
<00:47:46.005>the <00:47:46.160>tech <00:47:46.316>guy <00:47:46.471>in <00:47:46.627>the <00:47:46.782>family <00:47:46.938>when <00:47:47.093>I'm <00:47:47.249>at <00:47:47.405>home.

1074
00:47:50.425 --> 00:47:55.025
<00:47:50.425>I <00:47:50.532>been <00:47:50.640>a <00:47:50.748>Since <00:47:50.855>you <00:47:50.963>are <00:47:51.071>here, <00:47:51.178>would <00:47:51.286>you <00:47:51.394>mind <00:47:51.501>taking <00:47:51.609>a <00:47:51.717>look <00:47:51.825>at

1075
00:47:55.935 --> 00:47:58.545
<00:47:55.935>Yeah, <00:47:56.134>especially <00:47:56.335>if <00:47:56.535>you're <00:47:56.735>like <00:47:56.935>close <00:47:57.134>by, <00:47:57.335>like,

1076
00:47:58.705 --> 00:48:01.905
<00:47:58.705>I <00:47:58.821>live <00:47:58.938>farther <00:47:59.055>away <00:47:59.171>from <00:47:59.288>my <00:47:59.404>family, <00:47:59.521>so <00:47:59.638>I <00:47:59.755>have <00:47:59.871>um, <00:47:59.988>less <00:48:00.105>calls

1077
00:48:01.905 --> 00:48:04.025
<00:48:01.905>to <00:48:02.060>be <00:48:02.216>it <00:48:02.371>support, <00:48:02.527>but <00:48:02.682>it <00:48:02.838>does <00:48:02.993>happen <00:48:03.149>occasionally <00:48:03.305>stuff

1078
00:48:05.675 --> 00:48:09.025
<00:48:05.675>Maybe <00:48:05.875>on <00:48:06.075>holidays <00:48:06.275>like <00:48:06.475>Christmas <00:48:06.675>or <00:48:06.875>something. <00:48:07.075>Yeah.

1079
00:48:09.525 --> 00:48:11.105
<00:48:09.525>Oh <00:48:09.758>yeah, <00:48:09.991>they'll, <00:48:10.225>they'll <00:48:10.458>pat <00:48:10.691>things <00:48:10.925>up

1080
00:48:11.105 --> 00:48:12.185
<00:48:11.105>for <00:48:11.267>Christmas <00:48:11.429>so <00:48:11.591>I <00:48:11.753>can <00:48:11.915>help <00:48:12.077>you.

1081
00:48:14.735 --> 00:48:17.385
<00:48:14.735>Like <00:48:14.935>the, <00:48:15.135>the <00:48:15.335>grandchildren <00:48:15.535>are <00:48:15.735>getting <00:48:15.935>presents <00:48:16.135>from

1082
00:48:17.385 --> 00:48:19.825
<00:48:17.385>grandma <00:48:17.560>and <00:48:17.735>grandpa <00:48:17.910>and <00:48:18.085>you <00:48:18.260>get <00:48:18.435>the <00:48:18.610>tech <00:48:18.785>questions.

1083
00:48:19.825 --> 00:48:24.425
<00:48:19.825>Perfect. <00:48:21.225>So,

1084
00:48:24.645 --> 00:48:27.985
<00:48:24.645>um, <00:48:24.772>now <00:48:24.899>that <00:48:25.026>we, <00:48:25.154>uh, <00:48:25.281>talked <00:48:25.408>a <00:48:25.535>bit <00:48:25.663>about <00:48:25.790>your <00:48:25.917>early <00:48:26.045>days,

1085
00:48:28.565 --> 00:48:32.225
<00:48:28.565>do <00:48:28.720>you <00:48:28.876>maybe <00:48:29.031>have <00:48:29.187>any <00:48:29.342>tips <00:48:29.498>for <00:48:29.653>people <00:48:29.809>that <00:48:29.965>want

1086
00:48:32.225 --> 00:48:34.345
<00:48:32.225>to <00:48:32.505>start <00:48:32.785>out <00:48:33.065>now <00:48:33.345>in <00:48:33.625>tech

1087
00:48:34.565 --> 00:48:36.705
<00:48:34.565>and <00:48:34.765>maybe <00:48:34.965>since <00:48:35.165>it's <00:48:35.365>the <00:48:35.565>women <00:48:35.765>in <00:48:35.965>tech,

1088
00:48:36.705 --> 00:48:40.305
<00:48:36.705>they <00:48:36.904>more <00:48:37.105>specifically <00:48:37.305>for <00:48:37.505>females <00:48:37.705>to <00:48:37.904>start <00:48:38.105>out

1089
00:48:40.305 --> 00:48:44.305
<00:48:40.305>where <00:48:40.444>they <00:48:40.585>can <00:48:40.725>get <00:48:40.865>like <00:48:41.004>guidance <00:48:41.145>like <00:48:41.285>from <00:48:41.424>people <00:48:41.565>like <00:48:41.705>yours

1090
00:48:44.315 --> 00:48:47.625
<00:48:44.315>where, <00:48:44.455>like <00:48:44.595>what <00:48:44.735>are <00:48:44.875>the <00:48:45.015>steps <00:48:45.155>to <00:48:45.295>take <00:48:45.435>when <00:48:45.575>you <00:48:45.715>want

1091
00:48:47.625 --> 00:48:48.985
<00:48:47.625>to <00:48:48.033>start <00:48:48.441>out <00:48:48.849>as

1092
00:48:48.985 --> 00:48:49.985
<00:48:48.985>A <00:48:49.885>Sure.

1093
00:48:50.445 --> 00:48:52.665
<00:48:50.445>Um, <00:48:50.620>so <00:48:50.795>I <00:48:50.970>think <00:48:51.145>the <00:48:51.320>best <00:48:51.495>way <00:48:51.670>I <00:48:51.845>found

1094
00:48:52.665 --> 00:48:55.705
<00:48:52.665>to <00:48:52.840>start <00:48:53.015>out <00:48:53.190>is <00:48:53.365>just <00:48:53.540>start <00:48:53.715>building <00:48:53.890>things <00:48:54.065>and,

1095
00:48:55.725 --> 00:48:57.625
<00:48:55.725>and <00:48:55.924>playing <00:48:56.125>with <00:48:56.325>code <00:48:56.525>and <00:48:56.725>trying <00:48:56.924>things <00:48:57.125>out.

1096
00:48:58.125 --> 00:49:01.025
<00:48:58.125>Mm-Hmm. <00:48:58.300>Um, <00:48:58.475>and <00:48:58.650>even <00:48:58.825>then <00:48:59.000>it <00:48:59.175>doesn't <00:48:59.350>necessarily <00:48:59.525>be,

1097
00:49:01.185 --> 00:49:03.225
<00:49:01.185>I <00:49:01.384>think <00:49:01.585>we <00:49:01.785>put <00:49:01.985>across <00:49:02.185>a <00:49:02.384>pre <00:49:02.585>preconception.

1098
00:49:03.255 --> 00:49:05.785
<00:49:03.255>It's <00:49:03.395>always <00:49:03.535>got <00:49:03.675>to <00:49:03.815>be <00:49:03.955>a <00:49:04.095>developer <00:49:04.235>job <00:49:04.375>if <00:49:04.515>you're <00:49:04.655>interested

1099
00:49:05.785 --> 00:49:07.265
<00:49:05.785>in <00:49:06.118>something <00:49:06.451>else <00:49:06.783>like <00:49:07.116>design

1100
00:49:07.485 --> 00:49:09.905
<00:49:07.485>or, <00:49:07.685>there's <00:49:07.885>definitely <00:49:08.085>roots <00:49:08.285>in <00:49:08.485>tech <00:49:08.685>for <00:49:08.885>that.

1101
00:49:09.965 --> 00:49:12.385
<00:49:09.965>So <00:49:10.140>I <00:49:10.315>research <00:49:10.490>what <00:49:10.665>particular <00:49:10.840>roles <00:49:11.015>are <00:49:11.190>out <00:49:11.365>there

1102
00:49:12.385 --> 00:49:14.505
<00:49:12.385>that <00:49:12.560>might <00:49:12.735>align <00:49:12.910>with <00:49:13.085>your <00:49:13.260>interests <00:49:13.435>and <00:49:13.610>your <00:49:13.785>skillset.

1103
00:49:15.725 --> 00:49:17.105
<00:49:15.725>Um, <00:49:15.932>if <00:49:16.139>you're, <00:49:16.346>if <00:49:16.553>it <00:49:16.760>is <00:49:16.967>coding

1104
00:49:17.365 --> 00:49:19.185
<00:49:17.365>or <00:49:17.540>it <00:49:17.714>is <00:49:17.890>design, <00:49:18.064>then <00:49:18.240>I <00:49:18.415>would, <00:49:18.589>you <00:49:18.765>know,

1105
00:49:19.465 --> 00:49:22.105
<00:49:19.465>consider <00:49:19.665>building <00:49:19.865>out <00:49:20.065>like <00:49:20.265>little <00:49:20.465>prototypes <00:49:20.665>to <00:49:20.865>show

1106
00:49:22.135 --> 00:49:23.225
<00:49:22.135>what <00:49:22.462>skills <00:49:22.789>you <00:49:23.116>have.

1107
00:49:23.475 --> 00:49:27.425
<00:49:23.475>Maybe <00:49:23.630>try <00:49:23.786>and <00:49:23.941>look <00:49:24.097>for <00:49:24.252>online <00:49:24.408>courses <00:49:24.563>on <00:49:24.719>particular <00:49:24.875>forums.

1108
00:49:27.565 --> 00:49:30.585
<00:49:27.565>So <00:49:27.765>there's <00:49:27.965>things <00:49:28.165>like <00:49:28.365>Code <00:49:28.565>Academy, <00:49:28.765>there's <00:49:28.965>Pluralsight,

1109
00:49:30.585 --> 00:49:31.585
<00:49:30.585>there's <00:49:30.765>things <00:49:30.945>all <00:49:31.125>over <00:49:31.305>the <00:49:31.485>place

1110
00:49:31.585 --> 00:49:33.305
<00:49:31.585>where <00:49:31.865>you <00:49:32.145>can <00:49:32.425>learn <00:49:32.705>different <00:49:32.985>technologies.

1111
00:49:34.405 --> 00:49:36.585
<00:49:34.405>Um, <00:49:34.638>and <00:49:34.871>then <00:49:35.105>from <00:49:35.338>there, <00:49:35.571>you <00:49:35.805>know,

1112
00:49:36.685 --> 00:49:38.585
<00:49:36.685>put <00:49:36.965>those <00:49:37.245>sample <00:49:37.525>projects <00:49:37.805>somewhere <00:49:38.085>visible

1113
00:49:38.595 --> 00:49:40.705
<00:49:38.595>where <00:49:38.794>people <00:49:38.995>can <00:49:39.194>see <00:49:39.395>a <00:49:39.595>lot <00:49:39.794>of <00:49:39.995>the,

1114
00:49:40.765 --> 00:49:43.385
<00:49:40.765>the <00:49:40.940>times <00:49:41.115>when <00:49:41.290>I've <00:49:41.464>had <00:49:41.640>progressions, <00:49:41.815>it's <00:49:41.990>been <00:49:42.165>caught

1115
00:49:43.385 --> 00:49:45.705
<00:49:43.385>because <00:49:43.665>I've <00:49:43.945>been <00:49:44.225>doing <00:49:44.505>things <00:49:44.785>outside

1116
00:49:45.705 --> 00:49:47.025
<00:49:45.705>of <00:49:46.101>the <00:49:46.497>traditional <00:49:46.893>day-to-day

1117
00:49:47.055 --> 00:49:50.305
<00:49:47.055>that <00:49:47.210>really <00:49:47.366>people <00:49:47.521>have <00:49:47.677>found <00:49:47.832>cool <00:49:47.988>because <00:49:48.143>I've <00:49:48.299>shared <00:49:48.455>them.

1118
00:49:50.405 --> 00:49:52.185
<00:49:50.405>So <00:49:50.605>make <00:49:50.805>sure <00:49:51.005>it's <00:49:51.205>on <00:49:51.405>a <00:49:51.605>public <00:49:51.805>GitHub

1119
00:49:52.185 --> 00:49:53.985
<00:49:52.185>where <00:49:52.340>people <00:49:52.496>can <00:49:52.651>share <00:49:52.807>and <00:49:52.962>see <00:49:53.118>what <00:49:53.273>you <00:49:53.429>can <00:49:53.585>do.

1120
00:49:54.605 --> 00:49:55.905
<00:49:54.605>Add <00:49:54.897>them <00:49:55.190>onto <00:49:55.482>your <00:49:55.775>CV

1121
00:49:56.025 --> 00:49:58.145
<00:49:56.025>'cause <00:49:56.258>it's <00:49:56.491>not <00:49:56.725>just <00:49:56.958>about <00:49:57.191>your <00:49:57.425>responsibilities.

1122
00:49:58.405 --> 00:50:00.065
<00:49:58.405>So <00:49:58.605>if <00:49:58.805>you <00:49:59.005>do <00:49:59.205>that <00:49:59.405>meet <00:49:59.605>up <00:49:59.805>talk.

1123
00:50:00.125 --> 00:50:03.705
<00:50:00.125>If <00:50:00.358>you <00:50:00.591>write <00:50:00.825>that <00:50:01.058>little, <00:50:01.291>um, <00:50:01.525>POC,

1124
00:50:03.965 --> 00:50:07.145
<00:50:03.965>if <00:50:04.165>you <00:50:04.365>do <00:50:04.565>make <00:50:04.765>open <00:50:04.965>source <00:50:05.165>contributions, <00:50:05.365>I,

1125
00:50:07.365 --> 00:50:08.745
<00:50:07.365>I'm <00:50:07.571>sometimes <00:50:07.779>a <00:50:07.986>bit <00:50:08.192>wary <00:50:08.399>of <00:50:08.607>that.

1126
00:50:08.805 --> 00:50:12.865
<00:50:08.805>But <00:50:08.944>that <00:50:09.085>can <00:50:09.225>be <00:50:09.365>quite <00:50:09.504>quite <00:50:09.645>useful <00:50:09.785>for <00:50:09.924>building <00:50:10.065>a <00:50:10.205>career.

1127
00:50:13.045 --> 00:50:15.345
<00:50:13.045>You <00:50:13.161>know, <00:50:13.278>get <00:50:13.395>your <00:50:13.511>name <00:50:13.628>out <00:50:13.745>there <00:50:13.861>and <00:50:13.978>show <00:50:14.095>what <00:50:14.211>you <00:50:14.328>can <00:50:14.445>do.

1128
00:50:16.005 --> 00:50:18.025
<00:50:16.005>Um, <00:50:16.180>and <00:50:16.355>also <00:50:16.530>look <00:50:16.705>for <00:50:16.880>mentors <00:50:17.055>to <00:50:17.230>get <00:50:17.405>help

1129
00:50:18.025 --> 00:50:19.705
<00:50:18.025>and <00:50:18.225>guidance <00:50:18.425>in <00:50:18.625>the <00:50:18.825>domain <00:50:19.025>you're <00:50:19.225>looking <00:50:19.425>for.

1130
00:50:19.985 --> 00:50:21.905
<00:50:19.985>'cause <00:50:20.185>they <00:50:20.385>can <00:50:20.585>give <00:50:20.785>you <00:50:20.985>targeted <00:50:21.185>advice <00:50:21.385>on

1131
00:50:21.905 --> 00:50:23.345
<00:50:21.905>particular <00:50:22.337>skills <00:50:22.769>to <00:50:23.201>learn.

1132
00:50:23.925 --> 00:50:25.825
<00:50:23.925>And <00:50:24.100>don't <00:50:24.275>be <00:50:24.450>afraid <00:50:24.625>to <00:50:24.800>reach <00:50:24.975>out <00:50:25.150>to <00:50:25.325>people.

1133
00:50:25.845 --> 00:50:28.700
<00:50:25.845>People <00:50:26.000>are <00:50:26.156>generally, <00:50:26.311>in <00:50:26.467>my <00:50:26.622>experience, <00:50:26.778>very <00:50:26.933>willing <00:50:27.089>to <00:50:27.245>help

1134
00:50:28.700 --> 00:50:30.100
<00:50:28.700>and <00:50:28.952>very <00:50:29.203>willing <00:50:29.455>to <00:50:29.708>give <00:50:29.960>advice.

1135
00:50:30.545 --> 00:50:32.005
<00:50:30.545>So <00:50:30.764>don't <00:50:30.983>be <00:50:31.202>afraid <00:50:31.421>that <00:50:31.640>you're <00:50:31.859>gonna

1136
00:50:32.005 --> 00:50:33.085
<00:50:32.005>be <00:50:32.329>wasting <00:50:32.653>someone's <00:50:32.977>time.

1137
00:50:33.675 --> 00:50:35.565
<00:50:33.675>Feel <00:50:33.875>free <00:50:34.075>to <00:50:34.275>ask <00:50:34.475>those <00:50:34.675>questions <00:50:34.875>as <00:50:35.075>well.

1138
00:50:35.705 --> 00:50:38.365
<00:50:35.705>And <00:50:35.880>just, <00:50:36.055>you <00:50:36.230>know, <00:50:36.404>if <00:50:36.580>a <00:50:36.755>job <00:50:36.930>looks <00:50:37.105>interesting

1139
00:50:38.365 --> 00:50:41.045
<00:50:38.365>but <00:50:38.564>you <00:50:38.765>don't <00:50:38.964>hit <00:50:39.165>every <00:50:39.365>single <00:50:39.564>bullet <00:50:39.765>point,

1140
00:50:41.045 --> 00:50:43.645
<00:50:41.045>every <00:50:41.200>single <00:50:41.356>requirement <00:50:41.511>like <00:50:41.667>I <00:50:41.822>had <00:50:41.978>with <00:50:42.133>the <00:50:42.289>elastic <00:50:42.445>job,

1141
00:50:45.025 --> 00:50:46.125
<00:50:45.025>but <00:50:45.223>you <00:50:45.421>have <00:50:45.619>some <00:50:45.817>of <00:50:46.015>it

1142
00:50:46.145 --> 00:50:48.085
<00:50:46.145>and <00:50:46.300>you <00:50:46.456>think <00:50:46.611>you <00:50:46.767>can <00:50:46.922>prove <00:50:47.078>that <00:50:47.233>you <00:50:47.389>have <00:50:47.545>skills

1143
00:50:48.225 --> 00:50:51.125
<00:50:48.225>and <00:50:48.505>useful <00:50:48.785>things <00:50:49.065>to <00:50:49.345>bring, <00:50:49.625>then

1144
00:50:51.125 --> 00:50:53.165
<00:50:51.125>by <00:50:51.265>all <00:50:51.405>means <00:50:51.545>just <00:50:51.685>hit <00:50:51.825>the <00:50:51.965>submit <00:50:52.105>button <00:50:52.245>and <00:50:52.385>run <00:50:52.525>away.

1145
00:50:53.325 --> 00:50:54.925
<00:50:53.325>'cause <00:50:53.480>the <00:50:53.636>worst <00:50:53.791>thing <00:50:53.947>that <00:50:54.102>happens <00:50:54.258>is <00:50:54.413>they're <00:50:54.569>gonna <00:50:54.725>say

1146
00:50:54.925 --> 00:50:56.245
<00:50:54.925>no, <00:50:55.162>but <00:50:55.400>they <00:50:55.637>might <00:50:55.875>say <00:50:56.113>yes.

1147
00:50:58.095 --> 00:51:02.145
<00:50:58.095>Yeah. <00:50:58.270>And <00:50:58.444>with <00:50:58.620>like <00:50:58.794>job <00:50:58.970>descriptions <00:50:59.145>nowadays, <00:50:59.319>the <00:50:59.495>people

1148
00:51:02.145 --> 00:51:04.385
<00:51:02.145>that <00:51:02.378>hit <00:51:02.611>all <00:51:02.845>the <00:51:03.078>check <00:51:03.311>box, <00:51:03.545>uh,

1149
00:51:04.425 --> 00:51:08.825
<00:51:04.425>boxes <00:51:04.565>are <00:51:04.705>pretty <00:51:04.845>rare <00:51:04.985>if <00:51:05.125>not, <00:51:05.265>if <00:51:05.405>they <00:51:05.545>exist <00:51:05.685>at <00:51:05.825>all.

1150
00:51:09.925 --> 00:51:11.345
<00:51:09.925>And <00:51:10.180>then <00:51:10.436>there's <00:51:10.691>some <00:51:10.947>jobs <00:51:11.203>sometimes

1151
00:51:11.345 --> 00:51:12.385
<00:51:11.345>where <00:51:11.578>they <00:51:11.813>say <00:51:12.047>you <00:51:12.281>have

1152
00:51:12.385 --> 00:51:15.465
<00:51:12.385>to <00:51:12.525>have <00:51:12.665>X <00:51:12.805>years <00:51:12.945>in <00:51:13.085>a <00:51:13.225>particular <00:51:13.365>technology <00:51:13.505>despite <00:51:13.645>the <00:51:13.785>fact

1153
00:51:15.465 --> 00:51:17.425
<00:51:15.465>that <00:51:15.640>it's <00:51:15.815>not <00:51:15.990>existed <00:51:16.165>for <00:51:16.340>that <00:51:16.515>period <00:51:16.690>of <00:51:16.865>time.

1154
00:51:17.605 --> 00:51:19.465
<00:51:17.605>So <00:51:17.780>take <00:51:17.955>them <00:51:18.130>with <00:51:18.305>a <00:51:18.480>pinch <00:51:18.655>of <00:51:18.830>salt. <00:51:19.005>Absolutely.

1155
00:51:20.855 --> 00:51:23.025
<00:51:20.855>Well <00:51:21.135>it <00:51:21.415>can <00:51:21.695>happen <00:51:21.975>of <00:51:22.255>course.

1156
00:51:23.445 --> 00:51:26.225
<00:51:23.445>Um, <00:51:23.645>we <00:51:23.845>now <00:51:24.045>also <00:51:24.245>got <00:51:24.445>the <00:51:24.645>specific <00:51:24.845>question.

1157
00:51:26.385 --> 00:51:28.545
<00:51:26.385>I <00:51:26.560>mean <00:51:26.735>you <00:51:26.910>just <00:51:27.085>talked <00:51:27.260>a <00:51:27.435>bit <00:51:27.610>about <00:51:27.785>it,

1158
00:51:28.545 --> 00:51:31.225
<00:51:28.545>but <00:51:28.661>I <00:51:28.778>I <00:51:28.895>I <00:51:29.011>just <00:51:29.128>want <00:51:29.245>to <00:51:29.361>read <00:51:29.478>it <00:51:29.595>out <00:51:29.711>loud <00:51:29.828>to <00:51:29.945>you.

1159
00:51:32.055 --> 00:51:34.945
<00:51:32.055>What <00:51:32.254>help <00:51:32.455>you, <00:51:32.654>uh, <00:51:32.855>to <00:51:33.055>find <00:51:33.254>your <00:51:33.455>way

1160
00:51:35.085 --> 00:51:37.065
<00:51:35.085>and <00:51:35.260>to <00:51:35.435>choose <00:51:35.610>your <00:51:35.785>next <00:51:35.960>step <00:51:36.135>in <00:51:36.310>your <00:51:36.485>career?

1161
00:51:37.605 --> 00:51:39.585
<00:51:37.605>I'm <00:51:37.805>not <00:51:38.005>sure <00:51:38.205>about <00:51:38.405>what <00:51:38.605>to <00:51:38.805>do <00:51:39.005>next.

1162
00:51:41.815 --> 00:51:44.135
<00:51:41.815>I <00:51:41.970>get <00:51:42.126>that <00:51:42.281>I <00:51:42.437>still <00:51:42.592>have <00:51:42.748>points <00:51:42.903>to <00:51:43.059>this <00:51:43.215>day

1163
00:51:44.135 --> 00:51:46.135
<00:51:44.135>where <00:51:44.368>sometimes <00:51:44.601>I <00:51:44.835>think, <00:51:45.068>oh, <00:51:45.301>you <00:51:45.535>know,

1164
00:51:46.135 --> 00:51:47.335
<00:51:46.135>what <00:51:46.315>am <00:51:46.495>I <00:51:46.675>going <00:51:46.855>to <00:51:47.035>do <00:51:47.215>next?

1165
00:51:48.045 --> 00:51:50.495
<00:51:48.045>Sometimes <00:51:48.245>you <00:51:48.445>might <00:51:48.645>have <00:51:48.845>a <00:51:49.045>really <00:51:49.245>big <00:51:49.445>plan.

1166
00:51:50.715 --> 00:51:53.055
<00:51:50.715>We <00:51:50.870>talk <00:51:51.026>about <00:51:51.181>two <00:51:51.337>and <00:51:51.492>five <00:51:51.648>year <00:51:51.803>plans <00:51:51.959>and <00:51:52.115>things.

1167
00:51:53.055 --> 00:51:55.295
<00:51:53.055>Sometimes <00:51:53.182>you <00:51:53.309>might <00:51:53.436>have <00:51:53.564>an <00:51:53.691>idea <00:51:53.818>of <00:51:53.945>where <00:51:54.073>you <00:51:54.200>want <00:51:54.327>to <00:51:54.455>go.

1168
00:51:56.275 --> 00:51:58.185
<00:51:56.275>Sadly, <00:51:56.475>sometimes <00:51:56.675>it <00:51:56.875>doesn't <00:51:57.075>work <00:51:57.275>out <00:51:57.475>that <00:51:57.675>way.

1169
00:51:59.205 --> 00:52:02.065
<00:51:59.205>Um, <00:51:59.438>my <00:51:59.671>general <00:51:59.904>experience <00:52:00.138>of <00:52:00.371>this <00:52:00.605>is

1170
00:52:02.065 --> 00:52:03.825
<00:52:02.065>that <00:52:02.298>sometimes <00:52:02.531>when <00:52:02.765>I'm <00:52:02.998>in <00:52:03.231>those <00:52:03.465>situations

1171
00:52:03.825 --> 00:52:05.985
<00:52:03.825>where <00:52:03.964>I <00:52:04.105>don't <00:52:04.245>know <00:52:04.384>what <00:52:04.524>to <00:52:04.665>do, <00:52:04.805>sometimes <00:52:04.944>people <00:52:05.085>will <00:52:05.225>come

1172
00:52:05.985 --> 00:52:07.385
<00:52:05.985>with <00:52:06.405>opportunities <00:52:06.825>and <00:52:07.245>say,

1173
00:52:07.615 --> 00:52:09.345
<00:52:07.615>this <00:52:07.848>will <00:52:08.081>be <00:52:08.314>great <00:52:08.548>for <00:52:08.781>your <00:52:09.015>progression.

1174
00:52:10.455 --> 00:52:12.785
<00:52:10.455>Just <00:52:10.735>set, <00:52:11.015>ask <00:52:11.295>questions <00:52:11.575>about <00:52:11.855>it.

1175
00:52:12.925 --> 00:52:15.225
<00:52:12.925>And <00:52:13.080>don't <00:52:13.236>feel <00:52:13.391>like <00:52:13.547>you <00:52:13.702>have <00:52:13.858>to <00:52:14.013>take <00:52:14.169>that <00:52:14.325>opportunity.

1176
00:52:15.225 --> 00:52:18.145
<00:52:15.225>Particularly <00:52:15.458>if <00:52:15.691>you're <00:52:15.924>things <00:52:16.158>like <00:52:16.391>moving <00:52:16.625>projects,

1177
00:52:18.145 --> 00:52:19.545
<00:52:18.145>sometimes <00:52:18.460>this <00:52:18.775>happens <00:52:19.090>a <00:52:19.405>lot,

1178
00:52:20.125 --> 00:52:22.985
<00:52:20.125>but <00:52:20.252>if <00:52:20.379>your <00:52:20.506>gut <00:52:20.634>feeling <00:52:20.761>is <00:52:20.888>that <00:52:21.015>this <00:52:21.143>isn't <00:52:21.270>what <00:52:21.397>you <00:52:21.525>want

1179
00:52:22.985 --> 00:52:24.825
<00:52:22.985>to <00:52:23.265>do, <00:52:23.545>listen <00:52:23.825>to <00:52:24.105>your <00:52:24.385>gut.

1180
00:52:24.975 --> 00:52:26.785
<00:52:24.975>Because <00:52:25.208>I've <00:52:25.441>had <00:52:25.674>a <00:52:25.908>couple <00:52:26.141>of <00:52:26.375>situations

1181
00:52:26.785 --> 00:52:29.265
<00:52:26.785>where <00:52:26.912>I've <00:52:27.039>taken <00:52:27.166>roles <00:52:27.294>that <00:52:27.421>didn't <00:52:27.548>quite <00:52:27.675>work <00:52:27.803>out <00:52:27.930>the <00:52:28.057>way <00:52:28.185>I

1182
00:52:29.545 --> 00:52:32.305
<00:52:29.545>expected, <00:52:29.685>but <00:52:29.825>if <00:52:29.965>I'd <00:52:30.105>listened <00:52:30.245>to <00:52:30.385>my <00:52:30.525>instincts <00:52:30.665>at <00:52:30.805>the <00:52:30.945>start,

1183
00:52:32.465 --> 00:52:33.545
<00:52:32.465>I <00:52:32.659>wouldn't <00:52:32.853>have <00:52:33.048>taken <00:52:33.242>that <00:52:33.437>role.

1184
00:52:34.485 --> 00:52:38.025
<00:52:34.485>And <00:52:34.601>I <00:52:34.718>think <00:52:34.835>the <00:52:34.951>other <00:52:35.068>thing <00:52:35.185>is <00:52:35.301>always <00:52:35.418>just <00:52:35.535>be <00:52:35.651>on <00:52:35.768>the <00:52:35.885>kind

1185
00:52:38.025 --> 00:52:41.025
<00:52:38.025>of <00:52:38.200>open, <00:52:38.375>you <00:52:38.550>know, <00:52:38.725>look <00:52:38.900>at <00:52:39.075>job <00:52:39.250>descriptions, <00:52:39.425>talk

1186
00:52:41.085 --> 00:52:42.825
<00:52:41.085>to <00:52:41.435>people <00:52:41.785>in <00:52:42.135>your <00:52:42.485>organization

1187
00:52:42.845 --> 00:52:44.065
<00:52:42.845>and <00:52:43.064>find <00:52:43.284>out <00:52:43.503>what <00:52:43.723>they're <00:52:43.943>doing

1188
00:52:44.495 --> 00:52:46.825
<00:52:44.495>because <00:52:44.845>if <00:52:45.194>things <00:52:45.545>sound <00:52:45.895>interesting

1189
00:52:46.935 --> 00:52:49.905
<00:52:46.935>that <00:52:47.062>might <00:52:47.189>help <00:52:47.316>you <00:52:47.444>carve <00:52:47.571>out <00:52:47.698>a <00:52:47.825>path <00:52:47.953>to <00:52:48.080>a <00:52:48.207>particular <00:52:48.335>role.

1190
00:52:50.305 --> 00:52:52.465
<00:52:50.305>'cause <00:52:50.480>we're <00:52:50.654>always <00:52:50.830>so <00:52:51.004>obsessed <00:52:51.180>with <00:52:51.355>the <00:52:51.529>career <00:52:51.705>ladder

1191
00:52:52.525 --> 00:52:53.665
<00:52:52.525>and <00:52:53.038>going <00:52:53.551>up

1192
00:52:54.005 --> 00:52:55.545
<00:52:54.005>and <00:52:54.698>thinking, <00:52:55.391>oh,

1193
00:52:55.545 --> 00:52:57.705
<00:52:55.545>the <00:52:55.778>natural <00:52:56.011>progression <00:52:56.245>from <00:52:56.478>developers <00:52:56.711>to <00:52:56.945>manager.

1194
00:52:58.005 --> 00:52:59.185
<00:52:58.005>And <00:52:58.217>it's <00:52:58.429>not <00:52:58.642>always <00:52:58.854>like <00:52:59.067>that.

1195
00:52:59.335 --> 00:53:00.945
<00:52:59.335>It's <00:52:59.535>a <00:52:59.735>bit <00:52:59.935>more <00:53:00.135>of <00:53:00.335>a <00:53:00.535>climbing <00:53:00.735>frame

1196
00:53:00.945 --> 00:53:02.705
<00:53:00.945>or <00:53:01.100>a <00:53:01.256>jungle <00:53:01.411>gym <00:53:01.567>where <00:53:01.722>you <00:53:01.878>kind <00:53:02.033>of <00:53:02.189>hop <00:53:02.345>up

1197
00:53:02.705 --> 00:53:03.945
<00:53:02.705>and <00:53:02.928>down <00:53:03.151>and <00:53:03.374>try <00:53:03.597>different <00:53:03.821>things.

1198
00:53:04.565 --> 00:53:05.825
<00:53:04.565>So <00:53:04.848>be <00:53:05.132>open <00:53:05.415>to <00:53:05.698>opportunities

1199
00:53:05.885 --> 00:53:08.545
<00:53:05.885>but <00:53:06.040>also <00:53:06.196>listen <00:53:06.351>to <00:53:06.507>your <00:53:06.662>instincts <00:53:06.818>because <00:53:06.973>they'll <00:53:07.129>keep <00:53:07.285>you.

1200
00:53:08.545 --> 00:53:09.545
Right.

1201
00:53:11.195 --> 00:53:12.385
<00:53:11.195>Thank <00:53:11.462>you <00:53:11.730>for <00:53:11.998>answering <00:53:12.266>this.

1202
00:53:12.885 --> 00:53:16.185
<00:53:12.885>Um, <00:53:13.351>I <00:53:13.818>mean <00:53:14.285>it,

1203
00:53:16.675 --> 00:53:18.825
<00:53:16.675>after <00:53:17.141>talking <00:53:17.608>at <00:53:18.075>conferences

1204
00:53:18.925 --> 00:53:22.945
<00:53:18.925>and <00:53:19.052>so <00:53:19.179>on, <00:53:19.306>I <00:53:19.434>think <00:53:19.561>you <00:53:19.688>are <00:53:19.815>already <00:53:19.943>on <00:53:20.070>for <00:53:20.197>other <00:53:20.325>people,

1205
00:53:23.205 --> 00:53:26.525
<00:53:23.205>but <00:53:23.360>do <00:53:23.516>you <00:53:23.671>have <00:53:23.827>yourself <00:53:23.982>role <00:53:24.138>models, <00:53:24.293>something <00:53:24.449>like <00:53:24.605>that.

1206
00:53:26.595 --> 00:53:29.605
<00:53:26.595>Some <00:53:26.770>people <00:53:26.944>you <00:53:27.120>looked <00:53:27.294>up, <00:53:27.470>uh, <00:53:27.645>throughout <00:53:27.819>your <00:53:27.995>career

1207
00:53:29.785 --> 00:53:33.325
<00:53:29.785>and <00:53:29.924>said, <00:53:30.065>Hey, <00:53:30.205>I <00:53:30.345>want <00:53:30.484>to <00:53:30.625>achieve <00:53:30.765>things <00:53:30.904>like <00:53:31.045>they <00:53:31.185>did.

1208
00:53:33.825 --> 00:53:34.965
<00:53:33.825>Mm, <00:53:34.851>absolutely.

1209
00:53:35.145 --> 00:53:37.765
<00:53:35.145>So <00:53:35.495>certainly <00:53:35.845>I <00:53:36.195>think <00:53:36.545>about,

1210
00:53:37.765 --> 00:53:39.525
<00:53:37.765>obviously <00:53:37.998>I <00:53:38.231>mentioned <00:53:38.464>some <00:53:38.698>quotes <00:53:38.931>from <00:53:39.165>Helen.

1211
00:53:39.525 --> 00:53:41.765
<00:53:39.525>She's <00:53:39.680>been <00:53:39.836>a <00:53:39.991>big <00:53:40.147>mentor <00:53:40.302>and <00:53:40.458>a <00:53:40.613>big <00:53:40.769>role <00:53:40.925>model

1212
00:53:41.865 --> 00:53:42.965
<00:53:41.865>and <00:53:42.194>influenced <00:53:42.525>to <00:53:42.855>me.

1213
00:53:43.145 --> 00:53:44.285
<00:53:43.145>So <00:53:43.487>people <00:53:43.828>like <00:53:44.171>her

1214
00:53:44.385 --> 00:53:46.645
<00:53:44.385>and <00:53:44.735>Tricia <00:53:45.085>g <00:53:45.435>Angie <00:53:45.785>Jones,

1215
00:53:46.715 --> 00:53:49.285
<00:53:46.715>they're <00:53:46.890>all <00:53:47.065>fantastic <00:53:47.240>people <00:53:47.415>I <00:53:47.590>see <00:53:47.765>in <00:53:47.940>the <00:53:48.115>industry

1216
00:53:49.285 --> 00:53:51.085
<00:53:49.285>that <00:53:49.634>are <00:53:49.984>doing <00:53:50.335>amazing <00:53:50.685>things.

1217
00:53:52.025 --> 00:53:55.565
<00:53:52.025>Um, <00:53:52.200>also <00:53:52.375>I <00:53:52.550>think <00:53:52.725>about <00:53:52.900>people <00:53:53.075>like <00:53:53.250>Nicole <00:53:53.425>Gerson

1218
00:53:55.565 --> 00:53:58.325
<00:53:55.565>who <00:53:55.798>wrote <00:53:56.031>the, <00:53:56.265>the <00:53:56.498>DevOps <00:53:56.731>books, <00:53:56.965>um,

1219
00:53:58.505 --> 00:53:59.925
<00:53:58.505>and <00:53:58.824>people <00:53:59.144>like <00:53:59.463>Jean <00:53:59.783>Kim.

1220
00:54:00.165 --> 00:54:02.285
<00:54:00.165>'cause <00:54:00.365>I <00:54:00.565>love <00:54:00.765>their <00:54:00.965>books. <00:54:01.165>They're <00:54:01.365>very <00:54:01.565>relatable

1221
00:54:02.385 --> 00:54:05.325
<00:54:02.385>and <00:54:02.585>they're <00:54:02.785>very <00:54:02.985>knowledgeable <00:54:03.185>and <00:54:03.385>very, <00:54:03.585>very <00:54:03.785>interesting.

1222
00:54:06.025 --> 00:54:09.165
<00:54:06.025>But <00:54:06.180>I <00:54:06.336>also <00:54:06.491>think <00:54:06.647>about <00:54:06.802>other <00:54:06.958>individuals <00:54:07.113>like <00:54:07.269>Tim <00:54:07.425>Bernards

1223
00:54:09.185 --> 00:54:12.005
<00:54:09.185>Lee, <00:54:09.360>um, <00:54:09.535>you <00:54:09.710>know, <00:54:09.884>all <00:54:10.060>the <00:54:10.235>amazing <00:54:10.410>things <00:54:10.585>that,

1224
00:54:12.005 --> 00:54:13.725
<00:54:12.005>that <00:54:12.205>he's <00:54:12.405>managed <00:54:12.605>to <00:54:12.805>do <00:54:13.005>through <00:54:13.205>his <00:54:13.405>career.

1225
00:54:14.705 --> 00:54:17.565
<00:54:14.705>Um, <00:54:14.860>and <00:54:15.016>also, <00:54:15.171>you <00:54:15.327>know, <00:54:15.482>I <00:54:15.638>keep <00:54:15.793>finding <00:54:15.949>role <00:54:16.105>models.

1226
00:54:17.675 --> 00:54:20.685
<00:54:17.675>Like <00:54:17.850>I <00:54:18.025>watched <00:54:18.200>the <00:54:18.375>Hidden <00:54:18.550>Figures <00:54:18.725>movie <00:54:18.900>at <00:54:19.075>Christmas.

1227
00:54:20.985 --> 00:54:23.325
<00:54:20.985>I'm <00:54:21.140>very <00:54:21.296>late <00:54:21.451>to <00:54:21.607>the <00:54:21.762>party. <00:54:21.918>I'm <00:54:22.073>watching <00:54:22.229>that <00:54:22.385>movie.

1228
00:54:23.955 --> 00:54:25.885
<00:54:23.955>Obviously <00:54:24.188>you <00:54:24.421>have <00:54:24.654>people <00:54:24.888>like <00:54:25.121>Catherine <00:54:25.355>Johnson

1229
00:54:26.025 --> 00:54:27.645
<00:54:26.025>and <00:54:26.258>things <00:54:26.491>in <00:54:26.725>there <00:54:26.958>who <00:54:27.191>were <00:54:27.425>absolutely

1230
00:54:27.645 --> 00:54:29.205
<00:54:27.645>fantastic <00:54:29.045>mathematicians.

1231
00:54:29.345 --> 00:54:32.885
<00:54:29.345>So <00:54:29.484>you <00:54:29.625>will <00:54:29.765>have <00:54:29.904>particular <00:54:30.044>role <00:54:30.185>models <00:54:30.325>that <00:54:30.464>you <00:54:30.605>see <00:54:30.745>now,

1232
00:54:33.065 --> 00:54:34.645
<00:54:33.065>but <00:54:33.265>there'll <00:54:33.465>also <00:54:33.665>be <00:54:33.865>others <00:54:34.065>that <00:54:34.265>appear <00:54:34.465>later.

1233
00:54:34.745 --> 00:54:37.405
<00:54:34.745>So <00:54:34.861>I <00:54:34.978>have <00:54:35.095>a <00:54:35.211>few <00:54:35.328>now <00:54:35.444>and <00:54:35.561>I'm <00:54:35.678>sure <00:54:35.795>I'll <00:54:35.911>find <00:54:36.028>many <00:54:36.145>more.

1234
00:54:39.025 --> 00:54:42.125
<00:54:39.025>Of <00:54:39.165>course. <00:54:39.305>Thank <00:54:39.445>you <00:54:39.585>so <00:54:39.725>much <00:54:39.865>for <00:54:40.005>this <00:54:40.145>answer <00:54:40.285>as <00:54:40.425>well.

1235
00:54:42.545 --> 00:54:46.165
<00:54:42.545>Um, <00:54:42.745>talking <00:54:42.945>about <00:54:43.145>your <00:54:43.345>career, <00:54:43.545>um, <00:54:43.745>I <00:54:43.945>mean

1236
00:54:47.265 --> 00:54:50.525
<00:54:47.265>the <00:54:47.545>tech <00:54:47.825>industry <00:54:48.105>is <00:54:48.384>male <00:54:48.665>dominated,

1237
00:54:50.925 --> 00:54:52.565
<00:54:50.925>I <00:54:51.125>would <00:54:51.325>say <00:54:51.525>in <00:54:51.725>a <00:54:51.925>lot <00:54:52.125>of <00:54:52.325>ways.

1238
00:54:53.065 --> 00:54:57.045
<00:54:53.065>Um, <00:54:53.265>did <00:54:53.465>you <00:54:53.665>find <00:54:53.865>some, <00:54:54.065>some <00:54:54.265>like <00:54:54.465>points,

1239
00:54:57.185 --> 00:54:58.965
<00:54:57.185>but <00:54:57.418>this <00:54:57.651>was <00:54:57.884>very <00:54:58.118>obvious <00:54:58.351>to <00:54:58.585>you,

1240
00:54:59.185 --> 00:55:01.525
<00:54:59.185>and <00:54:59.418>how <00:54:59.651>did <00:54:59.884>you <00:55:00.118>navigate <00:55:00.351>around <00:55:00.585>this

1241
00:55:01.745 --> 00:55:03.085
<00:55:01.745>to <00:55:01.986>get <00:55:02.227>where <00:55:02.468>you <00:55:02.709>are <00:55:02.951>now?

1242
00:55:04.185 --> 00:55:06.525
<00:55:04.185>So <00:55:04.418>it's <00:55:04.651>something <00:55:04.884>that <00:55:05.118>came, <00:55:05.351>became <00:55:05.585>apparent

1243
00:55:06.525 --> 00:55:09.445
<00:55:06.525>to <00:55:06.700>me <00:55:06.875>on <00:55:07.050>my <00:55:07.225>first <00:55:07.400>day <00:55:07.575>of <00:55:07.750>university <00:55:07.925>actually.

1244
00:55:09.555 --> 00:55:12.325
<00:55:09.555>Okay. <00:55:09.730>I <00:55:09.904>walked <00:55:10.080>into <00:55:10.254>my <00:55:10.430>first <00:55:10.605>computer <00:55:10.779>science <00:55:10.955>lecture.

1245
00:55:12.345 --> 00:55:15.925
<00:55:12.345>It <00:55:12.472>was <00:55:12.599>over <00:55:12.726>a <00:55:12.854>hundred <00:55:12.981>people <00:55:13.108>and <00:55:13.235>I <00:55:13.363>just <00:55:13.490>saw <00:55:13.617>men <00:55:13.745>everywhere

1246
00:55:16.985 --> 00:55:18.925
<00:55:16.985>and <00:55:17.335>I <00:55:17.685>was <00:55:18.035>absolutely <00:55:18.385>terrified.

1247
00:55:19.125 --> 00:55:21.245
<00:55:19.125>I <00:55:19.300>was <00:55:19.475>probably <00:55:19.650>about <00:55:19.825>this <00:55:20.000>close <00:55:20.175>to <00:55:20.350>walking <00:55:20.525>out

1248
00:55:21.245 --> 00:55:22.485
<00:55:21.245>of <00:55:21.524>the, <00:55:21.803>the <00:55:22.082>lecture <00:55:22.361>theater.

1249
00:55:23.185 --> 00:55:24.845
<00:55:23.185>Um, <00:55:23.465>but <00:55:23.745>a <00:55:24.025>funny <00:55:24.305>thing <00:55:24.585>happened.

1250
00:55:25.065 --> 00:55:28.365
<00:55:25.065>Um, <00:55:25.205>there <00:55:25.345>was <00:55:25.485>a, <00:55:25.625>a <00:55:25.765>woman, <00:55:25.905>Jillian, <00:55:26.045>who <00:55:26.185>was <00:55:26.325>standing <00:55:26.465>next

1251
00:55:28.365 --> 00:55:29.525
<00:55:28.365>to <00:55:28.538>me <00:55:28.712>and <00:55:28.886>she <00:55:29.061>kinda <00:55:29.235>saw <00:55:29.409>me

1252
00:55:29.525 --> 00:55:30.885
<00:55:29.525>and <00:55:29.933>she <00:55:30.341>went, <00:55:30.749>wow,

1253
00:55:30.885 --> 00:55:32.645
<00:55:30.885>there's <00:55:31.040>not <00:55:31.196>a <00:55:31.351>lot <00:55:31.507>of <00:55:31.662>women <00:55:31.818>in <00:55:31.973>here, <00:55:32.129>is <00:55:32.285>there?

1254
00:55:32.645 --> 00:55:35.005
<00:55:32.645>And <00:55:32.785>I <00:55:32.925>went, <00:55:33.065>no. <00:55:33.205>She's <00:55:33.345>like, <00:55:33.485>do <00:55:33.625>you <00:55:33.765>wanna <00:55:33.905>sit <00:55:34.045>together?

1255
00:55:35.025 --> 00:55:38.045
<00:55:35.025>And <00:55:35.305>I <00:55:35.585>went, <00:55:35.865>yes. <00:55:36.145>So <00:55:36.425>absolutely.

1256
00:55:38.045 --> 00:55:39.565
<00:55:38.045>I've <00:55:38.216>worked <00:55:38.387>in <00:55:38.558>teams <00:55:38.729>where <00:55:38.900>I'm <00:55:39.071>the <00:55:39.242>only <00:55:39.413>women

1257
00:55:39.745 --> 00:55:41.285
<00:55:39.745>or <00:55:39.975>sometimes <00:55:40.207>there's <00:55:40.438>only <00:55:40.669>one <00:55:40.899>or <00:55:41.131>two.

1258
00:55:41.665 --> 00:55:44.845
<00:55:41.665>I'm <00:55:41.781>lucky <00:55:41.898>now <00:55:42.015>that <00:55:42.131>I <00:55:42.248>work <00:55:42.365>in <00:55:42.481>a, <00:55:42.598>a, <00:55:42.715>a <00:55:42.831>team <00:55:42.948>that's <00:55:43.065>dominated

1259
00:55:44.865 --> 00:55:46.245
<00:55:44.865>by <00:55:45.113>women, <00:55:45.361>which <00:55:45.610>is <00:55:45.858>really <00:55:46.107>nice

1260
00:55:46.865 --> 00:55:49.125
<00:55:46.865>and <00:55:47.040>is <00:55:47.214>probably <00:55:47.390>the <00:55:47.564>first <00:55:47.740>time <00:55:47.915>my, <00:55:48.089>my <00:55:48.265>time

1261
00:55:49.125 --> 00:55:50.125
<00:55:49.125>that's <00:55:49.575>ever <00:55:50.025>happened.

1262
00:55:50.745 --> 00:55:52.445
<00:55:50.745>Um, <00:55:50.978>the <00:55:51.211>thing <00:55:51.444>that <00:55:51.678>keeps <00:55:51.911>me <00:55:52.145>going

1263
00:55:52.625 --> 00:55:55.525
<00:55:52.625>and <00:55:52.825>makes <00:55:53.025>me <00:55:53.225>feel <00:55:53.425>included <00:55:53.625>as <00:55:53.825>finding <00:55:54.025>allies

1264
00:55:55.545 --> 00:55:57.605
<00:55:55.545>and <00:55:55.778>connections <00:55:56.011>of, <00:55:56.245>of <00:55:56.478>women <00:55:56.711>and <00:55:56.945>men

1265
00:55:57.785 --> 00:56:01.045
<00:55:57.785>and <00:55:58.018>others <00:55:58.251>alike, <00:55:58.484>um, <00:55:58.718>that <00:55:58.951>all <00:55:59.185>want

1266
00:56:01.045 --> 00:56:02.565
<00:56:01.045>to <00:56:01.273>kinda <00:56:01.501>work <00:56:01.729>on <00:56:01.957>cool <00:56:02.185>things <00:56:02.413>and,

1267
00:56:02.625 --> 00:56:04.645
<00:56:02.625>and <00:56:02.858>want <00:56:03.091>to <00:56:03.325>build <00:56:03.558>an <00:56:03.791>inclusive <00:56:04.025>environment.

1268
00:56:04.945 --> 00:56:07.245
<00:56:04.945>Um, <00:56:05.085>so <00:56:05.225>connecting <00:56:05.365>with <00:56:05.505>those <00:56:05.645>people <00:56:05.785>is <00:56:05.925>what <00:56:06.065>keeps <00:56:06.205>me <00:56:06.345>going

1269
00:56:07.245 --> 00:56:08.485
<00:56:07.245>through <00:56:07.431>tech <00:56:07.617>even <00:56:07.803>when <00:56:07.989>it <00:56:08.175>gets <00:56:08.361>hard.

1270
00:56:10.675 --> 00:56:13.325
<00:56:10.675>Awesome. <00:56:10.908>That, <00:56:11.141>that <00:56:11.375>are <00:56:11.608>very <00:56:11.841>beautiful <00:56:12.075>words.

1271
00:56:13.965 --> 00:56:14.965
<00:56:13.965>So <00:56:14.265>thanks <00:56:14.565>for <00:56:14.865>that.

1272
00:56:15.455 --> 00:56:19.005
<00:56:15.455>Maybe <00:56:15.610>as <00:56:15.766>a <00:56:15.921>closing <00:56:16.077>question, <00:56:16.232>do <00:56:16.388>you <00:56:16.543>have, <00:56:16.699>I <00:56:16.855>mean,

1273
00:56:19.105 --> 00:56:21.925
<00:56:19.105>you <00:56:19.385>told <00:56:19.665>us <00:56:19.945>your, <00:56:20.225>uh, <00:56:20.505>resources

1274
00:56:21.925 --> 00:56:23.180
<00:56:21.925>and <00:56:22.150>everything <00:56:22.376>for <00:56:22.602>the <00:56:22.828>talk <00:56:23.054>talk,

1275
00:56:23.465 --> 00:56:26.245
<00:56:23.465>but, <00:56:23.605>uh, <00:56:23.745>do <00:56:23.885>you, <00:56:24.025>uh, <00:56:24.165>like <00:56:24.305>have, <00:56:24.445>I <00:56:24.585>don't <00:56:24.725>know, <00:56:24.865>books,

1276
00:56:26.365 --> 00:56:30.325
<00:56:26.365>YouTubes <00:56:26.564>channels, <00:56:26.765>blogs, <00:56:26.964>um, <00:56:27.165>that <00:56:27.365>you <00:56:27.564>can <00:56:27.765>recommend

1277
00:56:30.545 --> 00:56:33.245
<00:56:30.545>to <00:56:30.778>young, <00:56:31.011>young <00:56:31.245>female <00:56:31.478>developers, <00:56:31.711>for <00:56:31.945>example?

1278
00:56:34.855 --> 00:56:38.355
<00:56:34.855>So <00:56:34.982>if <00:56:35.109>you're, <00:56:35.236>yeah, <00:56:35.364>so <00:56:35.491>I <00:56:35.618>have <00:56:35.745>a <00:56:35.873>few <00:56:36.000>books <00:56:36.127>depending <00:56:36.255>on

1279
00:56:38.355 --> 00:56:40.315
<00:56:38.355>what <00:56:38.705>things <00:56:39.055>you're <00:56:39.405>interested <00:56:39.755>in.

1280
00:56:40.655 --> 00:56:42.355
<00:56:40.655>Um, <00:56:41.005>so <00:56:41.355>if <00:56:41.705>you're <00:56:42.055>looking

1281
00:56:42.355 --> 00:56:44.515
<00:56:42.355>for <00:56:42.635>general <00:56:42.915>software <00:56:43.195>engineering <00:56:43.475>best <00:56:43.755>practices,

1282
00:56:44.515 --> 00:56:47.435
<00:56:44.515>the <00:56:44.670>software <00:56:44.826>engineering <00:56:44.981>book <00:56:45.137>by <00:56:45.292>Dave <00:56:45.448>Farley <00:56:45.603>is <00:56:45.759>very <00:56:45.915>good

1283
00:56:47.575 --> 00:56:48.675
<00:56:47.575>and <00:56:47.904>I <00:56:48.235>recommend <00:56:48.565>that.

1284
00:56:49.495 --> 00:56:52.355
<00:56:49.495>Um, <00:56:49.670>if <00:56:49.845>you're <00:56:50.020>interested <00:56:50.194>in <00:56:50.370>things <00:56:50.545>like <00:56:50.720>DevOps, <00:56:50.895>I

1285
00:56:52.875 --> 00:56:54.155
<00:56:52.875>recommend <00:56:53.259>the <00:56:53.643>Phoenix <00:56:54.027>Project

1286
00:56:54.755 --> 00:56:56.235
<00:56:54.755>'cause <00:56:54.977>that <00:56:55.199>is <00:56:55.421>quite <00:56:55.643>amusing <00:56:55.865>as <00:56:56.087>well.

1287
00:56:57.255 --> 00:56:58.635
<00:56:57.255>Um, <00:56:57.876>for <00:56:58.497>people

1288
00:56:58.705 --> 00:57:01.635
<00:56:58.705>that <00:56:58.938>are <00:56:59.171>looking <00:56:59.404>at <00:56:59.638>particular <00:56:59.871>language <00:57:00.105>ecosystems,

1289
00:57:01.835 --> 00:57:03.235
<00:57:01.835>I <00:57:02.045>can <00:57:02.255>look <00:57:02.465>at <00:57:02.675>the <00:57:02.885>effective <00:57:03.095>series.

1290
00:57:03.735 --> 00:57:06.275
<00:57:03.735>Um, <00:57:03.968>so <00:57:04.201>there's <00:57:04.435>effective <00:57:04.668>for <00:57:04.901>different <00:57:05.135>languages

1291
00:57:06.415 --> 00:57:09.955
<00:57:06.415>or <00:57:06.648>advanced <00:57:06.881>books <00:57:07.115>for <00:57:07.348>particular <00:57:07.581>programming <00:57:07.815>languages

1292
00:57:09.955 --> 00:57:11.155
<00:57:09.955>that <00:57:10.171>can <00:57:10.387>help <00:57:10.603>you <00:57:10.819>learn <00:57:11.035>those.

1293
00:57:11.655 --> 00:57:13.595
<00:57:11.655>I'd <00:57:11.888>also <00:57:12.121>check <00:57:12.355>out <00:57:12.588>things <00:57:12.821>like <00:57:13.055>Pluralsight

1294
00:57:13.595 --> 00:57:14.795
<00:57:13.595>and <00:57:13.774>all <00:57:13.955>the <00:57:14.134>kind <00:57:14.315>of <00:57:14.495>coding <00:57:14.675>classes

1295
00:57:14.975 --> 00:57:18.115
<00:57:14.975>and <00:57:15.174>YouTube <00:57:15.375>has <00:57:15.575>videos <00:57:15.775>everywhere <00:57:15.975>of <00:57:16.174>people <00:57:16.375>doing

1296
00:57:18.705 --> 00:57:20.035
<00:57:18.705>cool <00:57:19.104>things <00:57:19.502>with <00:57:19.902>technology.

1297
00:57:20.255 --> 00:57:22.355
<00:57:20.255>So <00:57:20.605>definitely <00:57:20.955>check <00:57:21.305>those <00:57:21.655>out.

1298
00:57:22.935 --> 00:57:25.275
<00:57:22.935>Um, <00:57:23.134>and <00:57:23.335>also <00:57:23.535>be <00:57:23.735>open <00:57:23.935>to <00:57:24.134>reading <00:57:24.335>texts

1299
00:57:25.275 --> 00:57:27.795
<00:57:25.275>that <00:57:25.555>maybe <00:57:25.835>you <00:57:26.115>wouldn't <00:57:26.395>necessarily <00:57:26.675>expect.

1300
00:57:28.015 --> 00:57:30.235
<00:57:28.015>So <00:57:28.248>if <00:57:28.481>anyone's <00:57:28.714>interested <00:57:28.948>in <00:57:29.181>engineering <00:57:29.415>management

1301
00:57:30.255 --> 00:57:33.395
<00:57:30.255>for <00:57:30.382>example, <00:57:30.509>or <00:57:30.636>even <00:57:30.764>if <00:57:30.891>you <00:57:31.018>want <00:57:31.145>to <00:57:31.273>know <00:57:31.400>how <00:57:31.527>you <00:57:31.655>would,

1302
00:57:33.455 --> 00:57:35.075
<00:57:33.455>how <00:57:33.735>is <00:57:34.015>effective <00:57:34.295>to <00:57:34.575>be <00:57:34.855>managed?

1303
00:57:35.075 --> 00:57:37.755
<00:57:35.075>If <00:57:35.274>you're <00:57:35.475>starting <00:57:35.674>out, <00:57:35.875>I <00:57:36.075>recommend <00:57:36.274>managing <00:57:36.475>Humans

1304
00:57:37.975 --> 00:57:41.075
<00:57:37.975>by <00:57:38.102>my <00:57:38.229>co-op <00:57:38.356>or <00:57:38.484>a <00:57:38.611>book <00:57:38.738>that's <00:57:38.865>on <00:57:38.993>my <00:57:39.120>to <00:57:39.247>read <00:57:39.375>list.

1305
00:57:41.105 --> 00:57:42.635
<00:57:41.105>I've <00:57:41.301>not <00:57:41.498>read <00:57:41.695>yet, <00:57:41.891>but <00:57:42.088>it <00:57:42.285>sounds <00:57:42.482>amazing,

1306
00:57:42.935 --> 00:57:44.435
<00:57:42.935>is <00:57:43.205>engineering <00:57:43.475>management <00:57:43.745>for <00:57:44.015>the <00:57:44.285>rest

1307
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