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332
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344
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345
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346
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347
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348
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349
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350
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351
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352
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353
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354
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355
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<00:16:08.785>and <00:16:08.959>uh, <00:16:09.135>it <00:16:09.310>takes <00:16:09.485>between <00:16:09.660>three <00:16:09.834>to <00:16:10.010>five <00:16:10.185>minutes

356
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357
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<00:16:14.185>better <00:16:14.340>no <00:16:14.496>fully <00:16:14.651>charged <00:16:14.807>battery <00:16:14.962>in, <00:16:15.118>in, <00:16:15.273>in <00:16:15.429>his <00:16:15.584>car.

358
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<00:16:18.235>It's <00:16:18.390>not <00:16:18.546>that <00:16:18.701>we <00:16:18.857>want <00:16:19.012>to <00:16:19.168>replace <00:16:19.323>the <00:16:19.479>charging <00:16:19.635>process,

359
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360
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<00:16:24.125>that <00:16:24.521>element <00:16:24.917>makes <00:16:25.313>sense,

361
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362
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363
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364
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365
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366
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367
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368
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369
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370
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371
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<00:16:49.865>to <00:16:50.065>bring <00:16:50.265>always <00:16:50.465>new <00:16:50.665>technology <00:16:50.865>into <00:16:51.065>our <00:16:51.265>system.

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373
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<00:16:54.045>of <00:16:54.200>our <00:16:54.356>cars <00:16:54.511>can <00:16:54.667>participate <00:16:54.822>from <00:16:54.978>that <00:16:55.133>technology <00:16:55.289>even <00:16:55.444>in,

374
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375
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<00:17:00.435>with <00:17:00.810>our <00:17:01.185>power <00:17:01.560>substation,

376
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<00:17:01.705>we <00:17:01.905>can <00:17:02.105>balance <00:17:02.305>the <00:17:02.505>grid <00:17:02.705>basically <00:17:02.905>in <00:17:03.105>theory.

377
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<00:17:04.944>Um, <00:17:05.072>whenever <00:17:05.199>there <00:17:05.326>is, <00:17:05.454>uh, <00:17:05.581>uh, <00:17:05.708>too <00:17:05.835>much <00:17:05.963>power <00:17:06.090>in <00:17:06.217>the <00:17:06.345>grid,

378
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<00:17:08.285>we <00:17:08.475>can <00:17:08.665>take <00:17:08.855>it <00:17:09.046>back <00:17:09.236>and <00:17:09.426>vice <00:17:09.617>versa.

379
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380
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381
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<00:17:14.565>it <00:17:14.705>is, <00:17:14.845>that's <00:17:14.985>what <00:17:15.125>we <00:17:15.265>trying <00:17:15.405>with <00:17:15.545>all <00:17:15.685>of <00:17:15.825>our <00:17:15.965>services,

382
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<00:17:16.645>with <00:17:16.800>our <00:17:16.956>product, <00:17:17.111>making <00:17:17.267>it <00:17:17.422>as <00:17:17.578>convenient <00:17:17.733>as <00:17:17.889>possible, <00:17:18.045>uh,

383
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384
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<00:17:23.625>and <00:17:23.825>join <00:17:24.025>our <00:17:24.224>way <00:17:24.425>to, <00:17:24.625>in <00:17:24.825>our <00:17:25.025>case,

385
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386
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387
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<00:17:33.095>Right? <00:17:33.995>So

388
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<00:17:34.095>you <00:17:34.328>believe <00:17:34.561>we <00:17:34.795>should <00:17:35.028>be <00:17:35.261>more <00:17:35.495>open,

389
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<00:17:36.545>not <00:17:36.983>just <00:17:37.421>charging <00:17:37.859>infrastructure,

390
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391
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392
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<00:17:45.045>And <00:17:45.185>just <00:17:45.325>to <00:17:45.465>add <00:17:45.605>to <00:17:45.745>that, <00:17:45.885>making <00:17:46.025>things <00:17:46.165>more <00:17:46.305>barrier <00:17:46.445>free

393
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394
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395
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396
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397
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398
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399
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<00:18:04.875>getting <00:18:05.075>data, <00:18:05.275>um, <00:18:05.475>from <00:18:05.675>users <00:18:05.875>in, <00:18:06.075>in <00:18:06.275>order

400
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<00:18:08.125>to <00:18:08.405>improve <00:18:08.685>your <00:18:08.965>design <00:18:09.245>as <00:18:09.525>well.

401
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402
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403
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404
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<00:18:19.905>and <00:18:20.060>I <00:18:20.216>think <00:18:20.371>in, <00:18:20.527>in, <00:18:20.682>in, <00:18:20.838>in <00:18:20.993>the <00:18:21.149>tech <00:18:21.305>industry,

405
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<00:18:21.725>it's <00:18:21.899>much <00:18:22.074>more <00:18:22.250>common <00:18:22.425>to <00:18:22.600>have <00:18:22.774>direct <00:18:22.949>user <00:18:23.125>feedback,

406
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<00:18:25.405>better <00:18:25.605>testing <00:18:25.805>and <00:18:26.004>so <00:18:26.205>on <00:18:26.405>and <00:18:26.605>so <00:18:26.805>forth.

407
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<00:18:27.465>That's <00:18:27.605>also <00:18:27.745>what <00:18:27.885>we <00:18:28.024>are <00:18:28.165>trying <00:18:28.304>to <00:18:28.445>apply, <00:18:28.584>um, <00:18:28.725>in <00:18:28.865>general.

408
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<00:18:30.585>But, <00:18:30.785>um, <00:18:30.985>one <00:18:31.185>other <00:18:31.385>aspect <00:18:31.585>is <00:18:31.785>important <00:18:31.985>here.

409
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<00:18:33.025>Um, <00:18:33.165>our <00:18:33.305>strategy <00:18:33.445>says <00:18:33.585>that <00:18:33.725>we <00:18:33.865>wanna <00:18:34.005>build <00:18:34.145>a <00:18:34.285>user <00:18:34.425>enterprise.

410
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<00:18:35.985>You <00:18:36.264>talked <00:18:36.544>about <00:18:36.824>acting <00:18:37.104>user <00:18:37.385>centric.

411
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<00:18:38.165>We <00:18:38.340>wanna <00:18:38.514>actually <00:18:38.690>want <00:18:38.865>to <00:18:39.040>go <00:18:39.215>one <00:18:39.389>step <00:18:39.565>further.

412
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<00:18:40.305>One <00:18:40.567>step <00:18:40.830>being <00:18:41.093>one <00:18:41.356>step <00:18:41.619>ahead.

413
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<00:18:42.155>User <00:18:42.310>enterprise <00:18:42.466>means <00:18:42.621>we <00:18:42.777>wanna <00:18:42.932>bring <00:18:43.088>the <00:18:43.243>user <00:18:43.399>into <00:18:43.555>the

414
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<00:18:45.205>organization, <00:18:45.485>make <00:18:45.764>the <00:18:46.044>user <00:18:46.324>an <00:18:46.605>incremental

415
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<00:18:47.075>part <00:18:47.426>of <00:18:47.777>the <00:18:48.128>organization.

416
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<00:18:48.505>And <00:18:48.835>the <00:18:49.165>operational <00:18:49.495>part

417
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<00:18:49.605>of <00:18:49.805>it <00:18:50.005>is <00:18:50.205>a <00:18:50.405>community <00:18:50.605>marketing <00:18:50.805>community <00:18:51.005>strategy.

418
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<00:18:52.315>What <00:18:52.515>we <00:18:52.715>are <00:18:52.915>doing, <00:18:53.115>we're <00:18:53.315>doing <00:18:53.515>that <00:18:53.715>via,

419
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<00:18:54.225>via <00:18:54.458>our <00:18:54.691>community, <00:18:54.925>how <00:18:55.158>we <00:18:55.391>do <00:18:55.625>it.

420
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<00:18:56.285>Just <00:18:56.558>to <00:18:56.832>give <00:18:57.105>you <00:18:57.379>some <00:18:57.653>examples,

421
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<00:18:58.185>our <00:18:58.385>entire <00:18:58.585>journey <00:18:58.784>is <00:18:58.985>based <00:18:59.185>on <00:18:59.385>that <00:18:59.585>aspect,

422
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<00:19:01.255>based <00:19:01.535>on <00:19:01.815>the <00:19:02.095>aspect <00:19:02.375>of <00:19:02.655>community

423
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<00:19:03.365>and <00:19:03.645>community <00:19:03.925>means <00:19:04.205>per <00:19:04.485>definition, <00:19:04.765>co-creation,

424
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<00:19:06.285>getting <00:19:06.440>feedback <00:19:06.596>in <00:19:06.751>interaction <00:19:06.907>feedback <00:19:07.062>and <00:19:07.218>so <00:19:07.373>on <00:19:07.529>so <00:19:07.685>forth.

425
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<00:19:09.865>So <00:19:10.040>all <00:19:10.215>of <00:19:10.390>our <00:19:10.565>journey <00:19:10.740>is <00:19:10.915>developed <00:19:11.090>for <00:19:11.265>that.

426
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<00:19:12.585>Um, <00:19:12.692>you <00:19:12.800>can <00:19:12.908>give <00:19:13.015>feedback <00:19:13.123>as <00:19:13.231>a <00:19:13.338>user <00:19:13.446>in <00:19:13.554>our <00:19:13.661>car, <00:19:13.769>in <00:19:13.877>our <00:19:13.985>app,

427
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<00:19:16.405>in <00:19:16.560>our <00:19:16.716>near <00:19:16.871>houses <00:19:17.027>to <00:19:17.182>our <00:19:17.338>fellows, <00:19:17.493>it's <00:19:17.649>our <00:19:17.805>job.

428
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<00:19:18.245>Then <00:19:18.445>take <00:19:18.645>that <00:19:18.844>feedback, <00:19:19.044>bring <00:19:19.245>that <00:19:19.445>in <00:19:19.645>the,

429
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<00:19:19.805>into <00:19:20.005>the <00:19:20.205>processes <00:19:20.405>and, <00:19:20.605>and <00:19:20.805>make <00:19:21.005>it <00:19:21.205>work.

430
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<00:19:22.435>Another <00:19:22.668>aspect <00:19:22.901>is <00:19:23.135>our <00:19:23.368>user <00:19:23.601>advisory <00:19:23.835>board.

431
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<00:19:24.925>A <00:19:25.065>board <00:19:25.205>of <00:19:25.345>users, <00:19:25.485>obviously <00:19:25.625>a <00:19:25.764>hundred <00:19:25.905>round <00:19:26.044>a <00:19:26.185>hundred <00:19:26.325>people

432
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<00:19:27.825>who <00:19:27.980>consult <00:19:28.136>us, <00:19:28.291>um, <00:19:28.447>on <00:19:28.602>a <00:19:28.758>constant <00:19:28.913>basis <00:19:29.069>on <00:19:29.225>workshops.

433
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<00:19:31.865>We <00:19:32.145>even <00:19:32.425>have <00:19:32.705>that <00:19:32.985>navigator <00:19:33.265>program,

434
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<00:19:33.695>which <00:19:34.043>is <00:19:34.392>basically <00:19:34.741>better <00:19:35.090>testing.

435
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<00:19:35.625>So <00:19:35.752>whenever <00:19:35.879>we <00:19:36.006>have <00:19:36.134>a <00:19:36.261>new <00:19:36.388>software <00:19:36.515>for <00:19:36.643>our <00:19:36.770>car, <00:19:36.897>we <00:19:37.025>give

436
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<00:19:37.845>that <00:19:38.020>out <00:19:38.195>to <00:19:38.370>our <00:19:38.545>better <00:19:38.720>testers, <00:19:38.895>our <00:19:39.070>navigators, <00:19:39.245>couple

437
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<00:19:41.245>of <00:19:41.524>weeks <00:19:41.804>earlier <00:19:42.084>before <00:19:42.364>mass <00:19:42.645>release.

438
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<00:19:43.075>They <00:19:43.250>get <00:19:43.425>feedback <00:19:43.600>in, <00:19:43.775>we <00:19:43.950>update <00:19:44.125>it, <00:19:44.300>optimize <00:19:44.475>it,

439
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<00:19:46.145>and <00:19:46.320>uh, <00:19:46.495>we <00:19:46.670>are <00:19:46.845>ready <00:19:47.020>for, <00:19:47.195>for <00:19:47.370>better <00:19:47.545>testing.

440
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<00:19:48.285>That's <00:19:48.528>just <00:19:48.771>a <00:19:49.014>few <00:19:49.257>samples.

441
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<00:19:49.505>So <00:19:49.785>user <00:19:50.065>feedback <00:19:50.345>and <00:19:50.625>the <00:19:50.905>user

442
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<00:19:51.525>and <00:19:51.805>the <00:19:52.085>community <00:19:52.365>aspect <00:19:52.645>is <00:19:52.925>a

443
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<00:19:53.165>fundamental <00:19:53.398>part <00:19:53.631>of <00:19:53.865>our <00:19:54.098>approach. <00:19:54.331>Yes. <00:19:54.565>Okay,

444
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Thanks.

445
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<00:19:56.465>And <00:19:56.665>Louisa, <00:19:56.865>do <00:19:57.064>you <00:19:57.264>maybe <00:19:57.465>also <00:19:57.665>have <00:19:57.865>an

446
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<00:19:58.565>example <00:19:58.925>for <00:19:59.285>user <00:19:59.645>feedback?

447
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<00:19:59.865>Um, <00:20:00.020>is <00:20:00.176>that <00:20:00.331>something <00:20:00.487>you've <00:20:00.642>already <00:20:00.798>done <00:20:00.953>with <00:20:01.109>your <00:20:01.265>agency?

448
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<00:20:03.125>Yeah, <00:20:03.300>um, <00:20:03.475>so <00:20:03.650>one <00:20:03.825>of <00:20:04.000>our <00:20:04.175>clients <00:20:04.350>is <00:20:04.525>Raden.

449
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<00:20:07.225>Not <00:20:07.458>many <00:20:07.691>people <00:20:07.925>may <00:20:08.158>know <00:20:08.391>this <00:20:08.625>one,

450
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<00:20:09.305>but <00:20:09.539>it <00:20:09.773>has <00:20:10.007>a <00:20:10.241>great <00:20:10.475>strategy.

451
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<00:20:10.675>City <00:20:11.010>cycling, <00:20:11.345>right? <00:20:11.680>Yeah, <00:20:12.016>yeah.

452
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<00:20:12.165>City <00:20:12.573>cycling <00:20:12.981>called <00:20:13.389>more

453
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<00:20:13.525>or <00:20:13.680>less <00:20:13.836>what <00:20:13.991>they <00:20:14.147>do <00:20:14.302>is <00:20:14.458>they <00:20:14.613>have <00:20:14.769>a <00:20:14.925>competition

454
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<00:20:18.315>that <00:20:18.490>is <00:20:18.665>in <00:20:18.840>order, <00:20:19.015>uh, <00:20:19.190>that <00:20:19.365>is <00:20:19.540>built <00:20:19.715>to

455
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<00:20:22.155>incentivize <00:20:22.355>people <00:20:22.555>to <00:20:22.754>use <00:20:22.955>the <00:20:23.155>bike <00:20:23.355>more <00:20:23.555>often.

456
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<00:20:25.105>21 <00:20:25.245>days <00:20:25.385>you <00:20:25.525>lock <00:20:25.665>your <00:20:25.805>street, <00:20:25.945>uh, <00:20:26.085>you <00:20:26.225>lock <00:20:26.365>your <00:20:26.505>routes

457
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<00:20:29.125>that <00:20:29.280>you <00:20:29.436>took <00:20:29.591>along <00:20:29.747>those <00:20:29.902>one, <00:20:30.058>uh, <00:20:30.213>along <00:20:30.369>those <00:20:30.525>days,

458
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<00:20:32.065>and <00:20:32.298>then <00:20:32.531>you <00:20:32.765>get <00:20:32.998>a <00:20:33.231>price <00:20:33.465>ideally.

459
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<00:20:34.745>So, <00:20:35.024>but <00:20:35.304>what <00:20:35.584>they <00:20:35.864>do <00:20:36.145>smartly,

460
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<00:20:37.305>and <00:20:37.445>what <00:20:37.585>I <00:20:37.725>like <00:20:37.865>really <00:20:38.005>much <00:20:38.145>about <00:20:38.285>the, <00:20:38.425>the <00:20:38.565>concept <00:20:38.705>is

461
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<00:20:41.235>that <00:20:41.584>they <00:20:41.935>partner <00:20:42.284>with <00:20:42.635>municipalities.

462
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<00:20:43.945>So, <00:20:44.225>um, <00:20:44.504>they <00:20:44.784>share <00:20:45.064>the <00:20:45.345>data

463
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<00:20:46.235>that <00:20:46.503>the <00:20:46.771>people <00:20:47.039>have <00:20:47.307>been <00:20:47.576>tracking,

464
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<00:20:48.345>and <00:20:48.625>it <00:20:48.905>informs <00:20:49.185>the <00:20:49.465>infrastructure <00:20:49.745>decisions

465
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<00:20:51.365>that <00:20:51.645>the <00:20:51.925>municipality <00:20:52.205>is <00:20:52.485>gonna <00:20:52.765>do.

466
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<00:20:53.025>That's <00:20:53.258>also <00:20:53.491>for <00:20:53.725>someone <00:20:53.958>who <00:20:54.191>cycles <00:20:54.425>already

467
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<00:20:56.125>a <00:20:56.348>good <00:20:56.571>incentive <00:20:56.794>to <00:20:57.017>do <00:20:57.241>that.

468
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<00:20:57.745>And <00:20:57.872>what <00:20:57.999>they <00:20:58.126>also <00:20:58.254>add <00:20:58.381>is <00:20:58.508>that <00:20:58.635>they <00:20:58.763>have <00:20:58.890>a <00:20:59.017>pothole, <00:20:59.145>um,

469
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<00:21:01.555>yeah, <00:21:01.990>a <00:21:02.425>pothole <00:21:02.860>locator.

470
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<00:21:03.145>So <00:21:03.499>you <00:21:03.853>can, <00:21:04.207>um,

471
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<00:21:04.385>you <00:21:04.560>can <00:21:04.735>tell <00:21:04.910>the <00:21:05.085>municipalities <00:21:05.260>were <00:21:05.435>the <00:21:05.610>biggest <00:21:05.785>potholes,

472
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<00:21:07.475>they <00:21:07.754>can <00:21:08.034>build <00:21:08.314>the <00:21:08.594>infrastructure <00:21:08.875>accordingly,

473
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<00:21:09.445>and <00:21:09.678>everyone <00:21:09.911>has <00:21:10.145>a <00:21:10.378>win-win <00:21:10.611>win <00:21:10.845>situation,

474
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<00:21:11.855>Right? <00:21:12.755>We

475
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<00:21:12.855>actually <00:21:13.030>also, <00:21:13.205>ABA <00:21:13.380>always <00:21:13.555>have <00:21:13.730>a <00:21:13.905>city <00:21:14.080>cycling, <00:21:14.255>uh,

476
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<00:21:16.035>competition <00:21:16.615>every <00:21:17.196>year.

477
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<00:21:17.905>Uh, <00:21:18.105>participate <00:21:18.305>is <00:21:18.504>a <00:21:18.705>lot <00:21:18.905>this <00:21:19.105>year <00:21:19.305>and,

478
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<00:21:19.865>and <00:21:20.020>it's <00:21:20.176>great <00:21:20.331>to <00:21:20.487>know <00:21:20.642>that <00:21:20.798>my <00:21:20.953>cycling <00:21:21.109>might <00:21:21.265>improve.

479
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<00:21:24.115>Sure. <00:21:24.348>Download <00:21:24.581>the <00:21:24.815>app <00:21:25.048>and <00:21:25.281>then <00:21:25.515>exactly.

480
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<00:21:26.665>Get <00:21:26.792>everyone <00:21:26.919>here, <00:21:27.046>and <00:21:27.174>then <00:21:27.301>the <00:21:27.428>city <00:21:27.555>gets <00:21:27.683>better. <00:21:27.810>So <00:21:27.937>do <00:21:28.065>it.

481
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<00:21:31.755>Yeah. <00:21:32.221>Improving <00:21:32.688>in <00:21:33.155>infrastructure,

482
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<00:21:33.855>smart <00:21:34.462>infrastructure, <00:21:35.070>totally.

483
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<00:21:35.545>One <00:21:35.685>of <00:21:35.825>the <00:21:35.965>major <00:21:36.105>points, <00:21:36.245>um, <00:21:36.385>in <00:21:36.525>a <00:21:36.665>smart <00:21:36.805>city, <00:21:36.945>right?

484
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<00:21:39.205>We've <00:21:39.379>talked <00:21:39.554>a <00:21:39.730>lot <00:21:39.905>about <00:21:40.080>user <00:21:40.254>feedback <00:21:40.429>users, <00:21:40.605>um,

485
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<00:21:43.345>but <00:21:43.520>there's <00:21:43.695>something <00:21:43.870>else <00:21:44.045>that <00:21:44.220>might <00:21:44.395>be <00:21:44.570>an <00:21:44.745>impediment.

486
00:21:46.545 --> 00:21:49.085
<00:21:46.545>Um, <00:21:46.720>when <00:21:46.895>we <00:21:47.070>think <00:21:47.245>about, <00:21:47.420>um, <00:21:47.595>the <00:21:47.770>smart <00:21:47.945>city

487
00:21:49.085 --> 00:21:52.085
<00:21:49.085>and <00:21:49.240>how <00:21:49.396>we <00:21:49.551>get <00:21:49.707>there, <00:21:49.862>that's <00:21:50.018>the <00:21:50.173>obvious <00:21:50.329>big <00:21:50.485>thing.

488
00:21:52.255 --> 00:21:53.605
<00:21:52.255>Regulation <00:21:52.862>in <00:21:53.470>general.

489
00:21:54.335 --> 00:21:56.965
<00:21:54.335>Maxim, <00:21:54.462>I'm <00:21:54.589>sure <00:21:54.716>you've <00:21:54.844>got, <00:21:54.971>um, <00:21:55.098>quite <00:21:55.225>a <00:21:55.353>lot <00:21:55.480>to <00:21:55.607>say <00:21:55.735>about

490
00:21:56.965 --> 00:21:58.965
<00:21:56.965>that <00:21:57.198>in <00:21:57.431>with <00:21:57.665>a <00:21:57.898>shared <00:21:58.131>mobility <00:21:58.365>service.

491
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<00:21:59.635>Does <00:22:00.058>it <00:22:00.481>work <00:22:00.904>well?

492
00:22:01.505 --> 00:22:04.525
<00:22:01.505>How <00:22:01.680>is <00:22:01.855>regulation <00:22:02.030>for, <00:22:02.205>for <00:22:02.380>your <00:22:02.555>services <00:22:02.730>right <00:22:02.905>now

493
00:22:04.625 --> 00:22:07.085
<00:22:04.625>and <00:22:04.825>what <00:22:05.025>maybe <00:22:05.225>what <00:22:05.425>should <00:22:05.625>improve <00:22:05.825>as <00:22:06.025>well?

494
00:22:08.195 --> 00:22:11.925
<00:22:08.195>Yeah, <00:22:08.350>uh, <00:22:08.506>shell <00:22:08.661>micro <00:22:08.817>industry <00:22:08.972>is <00:22:09.128>quite, <00:22:09.283>uh, <00:22:09.439>young, <00:22:09.595>right?

495
00:22:11.985 --> 00:22:15.365
<00:22:11.985>Uh, <00:22:12.125>so <00:22:12.264>most <00:22:12.405>of <00:22:12.544>the <00:22:12.685>companies <00:22:12.824>today <00:22:12.965>in <00:22:13.104>the <00:22:13.245>field, <00:22:13.385>including

496
00:22:16.185 --> 00:22:19.125
<00:22:16.185>my <00:22:16.340>company, <00:22:16.496>have <00:22:16.651>been <00:22:16.807>only <00:22:16.962>around <00:22:17.118>for <00:22:17.273>six <00:22:17.429>years <00:22:17.585>now,

497
00:22:19.345 --> 00:22:20.685
<00:22:19.345>so <00:22:19.747>still <00:22:20.149>very <00:22:20.551>new.

498
00:22:20.745 --> 00:22:24.565
<00:22:20.745>And <00:22:20.861>so <00:22:20.978>I <00:22:21.094>think <00:22:21.211>we <00:22:21.328>have <00:22:21.445>developed <00:22:21.561>a <00:22:21.678>little <00:22:21.794>bit <00:22:21.911>of <00:22:22.028>a <00:22:22.145>hate

499
00:22:24.565 --> 00:22:26.325
<00:22:24.565>and <00:22:24.915>love <00:22:25.265>relationship <00:22:25.615>with <00:22:25.965>cities.

500
00:22:27.105 --> 00:22:31.445
<00:22:27.105>Uh, <00:22:27.221>they <00:22:27.338>love <00:22:27.455>us <00:22:27.571>because, <00:22:27.688>uh, <00:22:27.805>I <00:22:27.921>think <00:22:28.038>we <00:22:28.155>help <00:22:28.271>them <00:22:28.388>to <00:22:28.505>bring

501
00:22:32.135 --> 00:22:34.365
<00:22:32.135>green <00:22:32.368>mobility <00:22:32.601>in <00:22:32.835>cities, <00:22:33.068>to <00:22:33.301>reduce <00:22:33.535>cars,

502
00:22:34.425 --> 00:22:36.885
<00:22:34.425>to <00:22:34.658>reduce <00:22:34.891>pollution <00:22:35.125>so <00:22:35.358>that <00:22:35.591>they <00:22:35.825>love,

503
00:22:37.705 --> 00:22:39.685
<00:22:37.705>and <00:22:37.879>at <00:22:38.054>the <00:22:38.230>same <00:22:38.405>time, <00:22:38.580>they <00:22:38.754>hate <00:22:38.929>us <00:22:39.105>also

504
00:22:40.115 --> 00:22:43.125
<00:22:40.115>because <00:22:40.255>we <00:22:40.395>bring <00:22:40.535>a <00:22:40.675>little <00:22:40.815>bit <00:22:40.955>of <00:22:41.095>chaos <00:22:41.235>in <00:22:41.375>the <00:22:41.515>city.

505
00:22:43.825 --> 00:22:45.965
<00:22:43.825>Uh, <00:22:44.105>maybe <00:22:44.385>also <00:22:44.665>some <00:22:44.945>safety <00:22:45.225>concerns.

506
00:22:46.385 --> 00:22:49.925
<00:22:46.385>And <00:22:46.512>so <00:22:46.639>it, <00:22:46.766>uh, <00:22:46.894>that <00:22:47.021>cities <00:22:47.148>have <00:22:47.275>been <00:22:47.403>always <00:22:47.530>in <00:22:47.657>between, <00:22:47.785>uh,

507
00:22:49.925 --> 00:22:52.125
<00:22:49.925>you <00:22:50.125>know, <00:22:50.325>welcoming <00:22:50.524>us <00:22:50.725>and, <00:22:50.925>and <00:22:51.125>rejecting <00:22:51.325>us.

508
00:22:52.985 --> 00:22:57.165
<00:22:52.985>And <00:22:53.159>so <00:22:53.334>from <00:22:53.510>a <00:22:53.685>regulatory <00:22:53.860>standpoint, <00:22:54.034>I <00:22:54.209>think, <00:22:54.385>uh,

509
00:22:57.585 --> 00:22:59.685
<00:22:57.585>the <00:22:57.785>main <00:22:57.985>points <00:22:58.185>that <00:22:58.385>we're <00:22:58.585>working <00:22:58.785>on <00:22:58.985>is

510
00:22:59.865 --> 00:23:03.285
<00:22:59.865>how <00:23:00.020>can <00:23:00.176>we <00:23:00.331>reduce <00:23:00.487>reasons <00:23:00.642>for <00:23:00.798>cities <00:23:00.953>to <00:23:01.109>hate <00:23:01.265>us?

511
00:23:04.065 --> 00:23:08.445
<00:23:04.065>The <00:23:04.205>two <00:23:04.345>points <00:23:04.485>are <00:23:04.625>really <00:23:04.765>arcing, <00:23:04.905>which <00:23:05.045>is <00:23:05.185>a <00:23:05.325>big <00:23:05.465>problem.

512
00:23:08.545 --> 00:23:11.645
<00:23:08.545>We <00:23:08.685>already <00:23:08.825>talked <00:23:08.965>about <00:23:09.105>it. <00:23:09.245>And <00:23:09.385>the <00:23:09.525>second <00:23:09.665>one <00:23:09.805>is <00:23:09.945>safety.

513
00:23:12.545 --> 00:23:15.645
<00:23:12.545>Uh, <00:23:12.720>and <00:23:12.895>so <00:23:13.070>if <00:23:13.245>we <00:23:13.420>come <00:23:13.595>back <00:23:13.770>to <00:23:13.945>parking,

514
00:23:16.035 --> 00:23:18.045
<00:23:16.035>it's <00:23:16.268>a <00:23:16.501>lot <00:23:16.735>about <00:23:16.968>collaboration <00:23:17.201>with <00:23:17.435>cities,

515
00:23:18.405 --> 00:23:19.845
<00:23:18.405>building <00:23:18.729>the <00:23:19.053>infrastructures <00:23:19.377>with <00:23:19.701>them,

516
00:23:20.265 --> 00:23:24.725
<00:23:20.265>giving <00:23:20.440>them <00:23:20.615>data <00:23:20.790>on <00:23:20.965>when, <00:23:21.140>where <00:23:21.315>people <00:23:21.490>use, <00:23:21.665>uh,

517
00:23:24.905 --> 00:23:27.005
<00:23:24.905>our <00:23:25.138>shared <00:23:25.371>bikes, <00:23:25.605>our <00:23:25.838>shared <00:23:26.071>scooters, <00:23:26.305>so

518
00:23:27.005 --> 00:23:30.005
<00:23:27.005>that <00:23:27.238>they <00:23:27.471>can <00:23:27.705>build <00:23:27.938>the <00:23:28.171>appropriate <00:23:28.405>infrastructures.

519
00:23:30.585 --> 00:23:34.565
<00:23:30.585>We <00:23:30.725>do <00:23:30.865>our <00:23:31.005>job <00:23:31.145>to <00:23:31.285>enforce <00:23:31.425>parking <00:23:31.565>or <00:23:31.705>to <00:23:31.845>promote <00:23:31.985>parking.

520
00:23:35.465 --> 00:23:36.685
<00:23:35.465>Uh, <00:23:36.014>and, <00:23:36.562>uh,

521
00:23:37.745 --> 00:23:40.605
<00:23:37.745>and <00:23:37.872>two, <00:23:37.999>uh, <00:23:38.126>on <00:23:38.254>the <00:23:38.381>safety <00:23:38.508>side, <00:23:38.635>uh, <00:23:38.763>we <00:23:38.890>use <00:23:39.017>a <00:23:39.145>lot

522
00:23:40.605 --> 00:23:44.685
<00:23:40.605>of <00:23:40.780>technology <00:23:40.955>also <00:23:41.130>to <00:23:41.305>limit <00:23:41.480>speed <00:23:41.655>in <00:23:41.830>pedestrian <00:23:42.005>areas

523
00:23:45.705 --> 00:23:49.525
<00:23:45.705>to <00:23:45.832>make <00:23:45.959>sure <00:23:46.086>that <00:23:46.214>users <00:23:46.341>only <00:23:46.468>go <00:23:46.595>in <00:23:46.723>the, <00:23:46.850>the <00:23:46.977>streets <00:23:47.105>where,

524
00:23:50.065 --> 00:23:52.965
<00:23:50.065>you <00:23:50.220>know, <00:23:50.376>they <00:23:50.531>can <00:23:50.687>ride <00:23:50.842>our <00:23:50.998>e-bikes <00:23:51.153>or <00:23:51.309>scooters <00:23:51.465>safely.

525
00:23:54.105 --> 00:23:57.525
<00:23:54.105>And <00:23:54.260>as <00:23:54.416>a <00:23:54.571>result, <00:23:54.727>uh, <00:23:54.882>we <00:23:55.038>have <00:23:55.193>seen <00:23:55.349>actually <00:23:55.505>the,

526
00:23:57.705 --> 00:24:01.205
<00:23:57.705>the <00:23:57.860>accidents <00:23:58.016>in <00:23:58.171>the <00:23:58.327>past <00:23:58.482>years <00:23:58.638>reducing <00:23:58.793>by <00:23:58.949>40, <00:23:59.105>50%,

527
00:24:01.305 --> 00:24:04.365
<00:24:01.305>so <00:24:01.460>are <00:24:01.616>making <00:24:01.771>a <00:24:01.927>lot <00:24:02.082>of <00:24:02.238>progress <00:24:02.393>on <00:24:02.549>this <00:24:02.705>still.

528
00:24:04.785 --> 00:24:06.765
<00:24:04.785>You <00:24:04.985>know, <00:24:05.185>the, <00:24:05.385>the <00:24:05.585>reality <00:24:05.785>is <00:24:05.985>that <00:24:06.185>cities

529
00:24:07.545 --> 00:24:10.085
<00:24:07.545>are <00:24:07.720>still <00:24:07.895>a <00:24:08.070>little <00:24:08.245>bit <00:24:08.420>skeptical <00:24:08.595>about <00:24:08.770>she <00:24:08.945>micro.

530
00:24:10.505 --> 00:24:12.125
<00:24:10.505>So <00:24:10.855>it's <00:24:11.205>still <00:24:11.555>ongoing <00:24:11.905>work.

531
00:24:12.825 --> 00:24:15.325
<00:24:12.825>And <00:24:13.058>one <00:24:13.291>of <00:24:13.525>the <00:24:13.758>interesting <00:24:13.991>thing <00:24:14.225>is

532
00:24:15.325 --> 00:24:17.125
<00:24:15.325>that <00:24:15.605>we <00:24:15.885>are <00:24:16.165>very <00:24:16.445>heavily <00:24:16.725>taxed.

533
00:24:17.745 --> 00:24:21.245
<00:24:17.745>Uh, <00:24:17.919>actually <00:24:18.094>a <00:24:18.270>study <00:24:18.445>from <00:24:18.620>the <00:24:18.794>US <00:24:18.969>showed <00:24:19.145>recently

534
00:24:21.245 --> 00:24:26.005
<00:24:21.245>that <00:24:21.419>three <00:24:21.594>micro <00:24:21.770>is <00:24:21.945>17 <00:24:22.120>times <00:24:22.294>more <00:24:22.469>tax <00:24:22.645>than,

535
00:24:26.545 --> 00:24:28.045
<00:24:26.545>uh, <00:24:26.815>the <00:24:27.085>car <00:24:27.355>industry <00:24:27.625>in <00:24:27.895>cities,

536
00:24:28.495 --> 00:24:30.565
<00:24:28.495>which <00:24:28.635>is <00:24:28.774>a <00:24:28.915>little <00:24:29.054>bit <00:24:29.195>crazy <00:24:29.334>when <00:24:29.475>you <00:24:29.614>think <00:24:29.754>about <00:24:29.895>it.

537
00:24:31.105 --> 00:24:33.685
<00:24:31.105>Uh, <00:24:31.280>we <00:24:31.455>are <00:24:31.630>a <00:24:31.805>much <00:24:31.980>greener <00:24:32.155>way <00:24:32.330>of <00:24:32.505>transportation.

538
00:24:33.985 --> 00:24:36.285
<00:24:33.985>We <00:24:34.334>don't <00:24:34.685>emit <00:24:35.034>CO2 <00:24:35.385>emissions.

539
00:24:36.865 --> 00:24:38.605
<00:24:36.865>We <00:24:37.098>don't <00:24:37.331>create <00:24:37.565>noise <00:24:37.798>in <00:24:38.031>the <00:24:38.265>cities,

540
00:24:39.265 --> 00:24:42.165
<00:24:39.265>but <00:24:39.498>nevertheless, <00:24:39.731>we <00:24:39.965>are <00:24:40.198>taxed <00:24:40.431>extremely <00:24:40.665>heavily

541
00:24:42.195 --> 00:24:45.645
<00:24:42.195>because <00:24:42.350>of <00:24:42.506>this <00:24:42.661>fear <00:24:42.817>that <00:24:42.972>cities <00:24:43.128>have <00:24:43.283>bad <00:24:43.439>child <00:24:43.595>macro.

542
00:24:47.185 --> 00:24:48.965
<00:24:47.185>And <00:24:47.418>maybe <00:24:47.651>in <00:24:47.885>order <00:24:48.118>to <00:24:48.351>increase <00:24:48.585>safety,

543
00:24:49.185 --> 00:24:51.325
<00:24:49.185>you <00:24:49.385>should <00:24:49.585>also <00:24:49.784>have <00:24:49.985>people <00:24:50.185>do <00:24:50.385>alcohol <00:24:50.585>testing

544
00:24:51.385 --> 00:24:52.445
<00:24:51.385>before <00:24:51.623>they <00:24:51.862>get <00:24:52.100>on <00:24:52.339>the

545
00:24:52.795 --> 00:24:54.325
<00:24:52.795>Sure, <00:24:54.172>Sorry.

546
00:24:55.115 --> 00:24:57.725
<00:24:55.115>Yeah, <00:24:55.348>safety <00:24:55.581>goes <00:24:55.815>back <00:24:56.048>to <00:24:56.281>the <00:24:56.515>individual.

547
00:24:57.755 --> 00:25:00.125
<00:24:57.755>Obviously <00:24:57.910>we <00:24:58.066>all <00:24:58.221>want <00:24:58.377>to <00:24:58.532>be <00:24:58.688>safe <00:24:58.843>on <00:24:58.999>the <00:24:59.155>scooter,

548
00:25:00.125 --> 00:25:01.325
<00:25:00.125>but <00:25:00.485>also <00:25:00.845>the <00:25:01.205>citizenship.

549
00:25:02.025 --> 00:25:04.685
<00:25:02.025>Um, <00:25:02.200>that's, <00:25:02.375>that <00:25:02.550>comes <00:25:02.725>back <00:25:02.900>to <00:25:03.075>your <00:25:03.250>point, <00:25:03.425>uh,

550
00:25:04.785 --> 00:25:06.405
<00:25:04.785>Louisa, <00:25:06.185>right?

551
00:25:07.305 --> 00:25:10.925
<00:25:07.305>So <00:25:07.480>I've <00:25:07.655>actually <00:25:07.830>asked <00:25:08.005>perplexity <00:25:08.180>ai, <00:25:08.355>uh, <00:25:08.530>in <00:25:08.705>preparation

552
00:25:10.925 --> 00:25:13.445
<00:25:10.925>of <00:25:11.052>this, <00:25:11.179>uh, <00:25:11.306>panel, <00:25:11.434>I'm <00:25:11.561>gonna <00:25:11.688>have <00:25:11.815>to <00:25:11.943>get <00:25:12.070>my <00:25:12.197>cheat <00:25:12.325>sheet.

553
00:25:13.665 --> 00:25:18.285
<00:25:13.665>Um, <00:25:13.781>what <00:25:13.898>is <00:25:14.014>a <00:25:14.131>smart <00:25:14.248>city <00:25:14.365>and <00:25:14.481>what <00:25:14.598>does <00:25:14.715>a <00:25:14.831>smart <00:25:14.948>city <00:25:15.065>need?

554
00:25:18.385 --> 00:25:22.285
<00:25:18.385>So <00:25:18.540>just <00:25:18.696>going <00:25:18.851>through <00:25:19.007>this, <00:25:19.162>um, <00:25:19.318>we <00:25:19.473>touched <00:25:19.629>upon <00:25:19.785>lots

555
00:25:22.285 --> 00:25:23.725
<00:25:22.285>of <00:25:22.933>these <00:25:23.581>sensors

556
00:25:23.725 --> 00:25:27.245
<00:25:23.725>and <00:25:23.958>data <00:25:24.191>collection, <00:25:24.425>data <00:25:24.658>analytics, <00:25:24.891>smart <00:25:25.125>infrastructure,

557
00:25:28.605 --> 00:25:29.845
<00:25:28.605>efficient <00:25:29.163>resource <00:25:29.721>management.

558
00:25:30.465 --> 00:25:33.285
<00:25:30.465>So <00:25:30.620>we've, <00:25:30.776>we've <00:25:30.931>talked <00:25:31.087>about <00:25:31.242>lots <00:25:31.398>of <00:25:31.553>these <00:25:31.709>topics, <00:25:31.865>um,

559
00:25:33.745 --> 00:25:37.805
<00:25:33.745>but <00:25:33.945>asking <00:25:34.145>AI <00:25:34.344>obviously <00:25:34.544>also <00:25:34.745>mentioned <00:25:34.945>ai, <00:25:35.145>right?

560
00:25:38.125 --> 00:25:41.685
<00:25:38.125>Artificial <00:25:38.325>inte <00:25:38.525>intelligence <00:25:38.725>can, <00:25:38.925>can <00:25:39.125>help <00:25:39.325>us, <00:25:39.525>um,

561
00:25:42.675 --> 00:25:44.485
<00:25:42.675>improve <00:25:43.141>decision <00:25:43.608>making <00:25:44.075>processes.

562
00:25:44.785 --> 00:25:45.805
<00:25:44.785>Louisa, <00:25:45.014>what <00:25:45.244>do <00:25:45.473>you <00:25:45.703>think?

563
00:25:46.635 --> 00:25:47.805
<00:25:46.635>Whew, <00:25:47.161>broad <00:25:47.688>topic.

564
00:25:48.195 --> 00:25:49.885
<00:25:48.195>I'll <00:25:48.395>try <00:25:48.595>to <00:25:48.794>keep <00:25:48.995>it <00:25:49.195>a <00:25:49.395>bit <00:25:49.595>shorter,

565
00:25:50.505 --> 00:25:51.685
<00:25:50.505>uh, <00:25:50.717>than <00:25:50.929>I <00:25:51.142>usually <00:25:51.354>would <00:25:51.567>do.

566
00:25:52.425 --> 00:25:57.085
<00:25:52.425>Um, <00:25:52.541>so <00:25:52.658>there <00:25:52.774>are <00:25:52.891>two, <00:25:53.008>two <00:25:53.125>big <00:25:53.241>areas <00:25:53.358>that <00:25:53.475>I <00:25:53.591>think <00:25:53.708>it <00:25:53.825>can,

567
00:25:57.345 --> 00:25:59.365
<00:25:57.345>can <00:25:57.625>really <00:25:57.905>have <00:25:58.185>a <00:25:58.465>strong <00:25:58.745>impact.

568
00:25:59.385 --> 00:26:02.365
<00:25:59.385>The <00:25:59.540>one <00:25:59.696>is <00:25:59.851>the <00:26:00.007>usage <00:26:00.162>of <00:26:00.318>data <00:26:00.473>in <00:26:00.629>order <00:26:00.785>to

569
00:26:03.195 --> 00:26:04.685
<00:26:03.195>make <00:26:04.536>municipalities,

570
00:26:04.905 --> 00:26:07.645
<00:26:04.905>but <00:26:05.138>also <00:26:05.371>companies <00:26:05.605>better <00:26:05.838>understand <00:26:06.071>the <00:26:06.305>needs

571
00:26:07.665 --> 00:26:09.565
<00:26:07.665>of <00:26:07.865>the <00:26:08.065>customers <00:26:08.264>and <00:26:08.465>how <00:26:08.665>they <00:26:08.865>can <00:26:09.065>change

572
00:26:09.565 --> 00:26:11.845
<00:26:09.565>and <00:26:09.915>shape, <00:26:10.265>um, <00:26:10.615>that <00:26:10.965>behavior.

573
00:26:12.305 --> 00:26:14.205
<00:26:12.305>The <00:26:12.538>second <00:26:12.771>one <00:26:13.005>is <00:26:13.238>in <00:26:13.471>order <00:26:13.705>to,

574
00:26:14.465 --> 00:26:17.925
<00:26:14.465>and <00:26:14.605>that's <00:26:14.745>again, <00:26:14.885>something <00:26:15.024>that <00:26:15.165>I <00:26:15.304>focus <00:26:15.445>on <00:26:15.584>more <00:26:15.725>in <00:26:15.865>order

575
00:26:17.945 --> 00:26:21.365
<00:26:17.945>to <00:26:18.100>design <00:26:18.256>the <00:26:18.411>user <00:26:18.567>experience <00:26:18.722>of <00:26:18.878>those <00:26:19.033>kind <00:26:19.189>of <00:26:19.345>services.

576
00:26:22.105 --> 00:26:25.725
<00:26:22.105>All <00:26:22.245>the, <00:26:22.385>uh, <00:26:22.525>improvements <00:26:22.665>that <00:26:22.805>we <00:26:22.945>now <00:26:23.085>see <00:26:23.225>these <00:26:23.365>days <00:26:23.505>via,

577
00:26:25.825 --> 00:26:29.285
<00:26:25.825>um, <00:26:25.980>thanks <00:26:26.136>to <00:26:26.291>large <00:26:26.447>language <00:26:26.602>models, <00:26:26.758>generative <00:26:26.913>AI <00:26:27.069>will <00:26:27.225>be

578
00:26:29.865 --> 00:26:33.765
<00:26:29.865>in <00:26:30.040>the <00:26:30.215>future, <00:26:30.390>have <00:26:30.565>a <00:26:30.740>high <00:26:30.915>impact <00:26:31.090>on <00:26:31.265>designing

579
00:26:34.655 --> 00:26:36.565
<00:26:34.655>maybe <00:26:35.355>even <00:26:36.055>really,

580
00:26:36.565 --> 00:26:40.045
<00:26:36.565>really <00:26:36.845>individualized <00:26:37.125>journeys <00:26:37.405>across <00:26:37.685>different <00:26:37.965>services

581
00:26:40.455 --> 00:26:44.325
<00:26:40.455>throughout <00:26:40.610>the <00:26:40.766>city <00:26:40.921>that <00:26:41.077>can <00:26:41.232>then <00:26:41.388>build <00:26:41.543>in <00:26:41.699>a <00:26:41.855>direction

582
00:26:44.425 --> 00:26:45.845
<00:26:44.425>that's <00:26:44.744>really <00:26:45.064>personalized <00:26:45.383>to <00:26:45.703>me.

583
00:26:45.985 --> 00:26:50.045
<00:26:45.985>So <00:26:46.140>away <00:26:46.296>from <00:26:46.451>the <00:26:46.607>classic <00:26:46.762>website <00:26:46.918>to <00:26:47.073>a <00:26:47.229>web <00:26:47.385>experience

584
00:26:50.235 --> 00:26:53.805
<00:26:50.235>that <00:26:50.390>is <00:26:50.546>designed <00:26:50.701>around <00:26:50.857>my <00:26:51.012>needs, <00:26:51.168>based <00:26:51.323>on <00:26:51.479>my <00:26:51.635>language

585
00:26:53.805 --> 00:26:56.405
<00:26:53.805>that <00:26:53.945>I <00:26:54.085>put <00:26:54.225>in <00:26:54.365>the, <00:26:54.505>the <00:26:54.645>conversation <00:26:54.785>I <00:26:54.925>want <00:26:55.065>to <00:26:55.205>have

586
00:26:56.405 --> 00:26:57.605
<00:26:56.405>with <00:26:56.621>the <00:26:56.837>app <00:26:57.053>or <00:26:57.269>whatever <00:26:57.485>else.

587
00:26:57.605 --> 00:27:01.205
<00:26:57.605>There's, <00:26:57.780>ah, <00:26:57.955>sorry, <00:26:58.130>I, <00:26:58.305>but <00:26:58.480>there <00:26:58.655>are <00:26:58.830>other <00:26:59.005>people,

588
00:27:02.415 --> 00:27:04.645
<00:27:02.415>Sorry, <00:27:02.590>there <00:27:02.764>Are <00:27:02.940>other <00:27:03.115>people <00:27:03.290>who <00:27:03.465>want <00:27:03.639>to <00:27:03.815>speak.

589
00:27:06.345 --> 00:27:07.965
<00:27:06.345>Any <00:27:06.695>comments? <00:27:07.045>No. <00:27:07.395>On <00:27:07.745>data?

590
00:27:08.865 --> 00:27:11.365
<00:27:08.865>I'm <00:27:08.981>sure <00:27:09.098>we've <00:27:09.215>all <00:27:09.331>got <00:27:09.448>a <00:27:09.565>lot <00:27:09.681>to <00:27:09.798>say <00:27:09.915>on, <00:27:10.031>on <00:27:10.148>data, <00:27:10.265>right?

591
00:27:11.465 --> 00:27:13.205
<00:27:11.465>And, <00:27:11.931>uh, <00:27:12.398>data <00:27:12.865>usage.

592
00:27:15.595 --> 00:27:17.085
<00:27:15.595>Yeah, <00:27:15.930>I <00:27:16.265>mean, <00:27:16.600>uh, <00:27:16.936>data.

593
00:27:18.085 --> 00:27:20.165
<00:27:18.085>I <00:27:18.285>think <00:27:18.485>there's <00:27:18.685>no <00:27:18.885>not <00:27:19.085>two <00:27:19.285>opinions <00:27:19.485>on

594
00:27:20.165 --> 00:27:21.325
<00:27:20.165>data <00:27:20.426>in <00:27:20.687>general, <00:27:20.948>of <00:27:21.209>course.

595
00:27:21.385 --> 00:27:23.245
<00:27:21.385>And, <00:27:21.665>and <00:27:21.945>I'm <00:27:22.225>a <00:27:22.504>marketing <00:27:22.785>guy

596
00:27:23.545 --> 00:27:26.325
<00:27:23.545>and <00:27:23.700>the <00:27:23.856>shift <00:27:24.011>from <00:27:24.167>third <00:27:24.322>party <00:27:24.478>data <00:27:24.633>towards <00:27:24.789>even <00:27:24.945>more

597
00:27:26.645 --> 00:27:28.965
<00:27:26.645>relevance <00:27:26.820>in, <00:27:26.995>in <00:27:27.170>first <00:27:27.345>party <00:27:27.520>data, <00:27:27.695>that's, <00:27:27.870>that's <00:27:28.045>obvious.

598
00:27:29.115 --> 00:27:30.925
<00:27:29.115>Also <00:27:29.581>building <00:27:30.048>better <00:27:30.515>services,

599
00:27:31.075 --> 00:27:32.845
<00:27:31.075>more <00:27:31.250>convenient <00:27:31.425>service <00:27:31.600>and <00:27:31.775>so <00:27:31.950>on <00:27:32.125>and <00:27:32.300>so <00:27:32.475>forth.

600
00:27:32.865 --> 00:27:34.765
<00:27:32.865>But <00:27:33.065>I <00:27:33.265>try <00:27:33.465>to <00:27:33.665>mention <00:27:33.865>it <00:27:34.065>already, <00:27:34.265>um,

601
00:27:35.915 --> 00:27:37.365
<00:27:35.915>data <00:27:36.176>is <00:27:36.437>the <00:27:36.698>basis <00:27:36.959>for <00:27:37.220>us.

602
00:27:37.475 --> 00:27:40.125
<00:27:37.475>What <00:27:37.630>we <00:27:37.786>always <00:27:37.941>try <00:27:38.097>to <00:27:38.252>do <00:27:38.408>is <00:27:38.563>get <00:27:38.719>into <00:27:38.875>connection,

603
00:27:40.125 --> 00:27:43.085
<00:27:40.125>get <00:27:40.280>into <00:27:40.436>the <00:27:40.591>dialogue <00:27:40.747>to <00:27:40.902>people <00:27:41.058>and <00:27:41.213>get <00:27:41.369>their <00:27:41.525>view

604
00:27:43.185 --> 00:27:44.565
<00:27:43.185>and <00:27:43.433>a <00:27:43.681>deeper <00:27:43.930>view <00:27:44.178>on <00:27:44.427>it.

605
00:27:44.825 --> 00:27:47.885
<00:27:44.825>Uh, <00:27:44.965>that's <00:27:45.105>very <00:27:45.245>much <00:27:45.385>rooted <00:27:45.525>in <00:27:45.665>the <00:27:45.805>thinking <00:27:45.945>of <00:27:46.085>our <00:27:46.225>CEO.

606
00:27:47.905 --> 00:27:50.685
<00:27:47.905>He, <00:27:48.045>when <00:27:48.185>he <00:27:48.325>comes <00:27:48.465>to <00:27:48.605>Germany, <00:27:48.745>he <00:27:48.885>usually <00:27:49.024>wants <00:27:49.165>to <00:27:49.305>talk

607
00:27:50.685 --> 00:27:52.845
<00:27:50.685>to <00:27:50.885>users, <00:27:51.085>he <00:27:51.284>wants <00:27:51.485>to <00:27:51.685>have <00:27:51.885>user <00:27:52.085>face-to-faces,

608
00:27:53.035 --> 00:27:54.685
<00:27:53.035>have <00:27:53.315>deep <00:27:53.595>dive <00:27:53.875>sessions <00:27:54.155>with <00:27:54.435>them,

609
00:27:54.865 --> 00:27:58.725
<00:27:54.865>and <00:27:55.005>that <00:27:55.145>is <00:27:55.285>helping <00:27:55.425>us <00:27:55.565>together <00:27:55.705>with <00:27:55.845>the <00:27:55.985>data <00:27:56.125>in <00:27:56.265>general

610
00:27:59.185 --> 00:28:00.245
<00:27:59.185>to <00:27:59.423>get <00:27:59.661>a <00:27:59.900>better <00:28:00.139>view

611
00:28:00.305 --> 00:28:02.365
<00:28:00.305>and <00:28:00.538>understand <00:28:00.771>the <00:28:01.005>community <00:28:01.238>needs <00:28:01.471>even <00:28:01.705>better

612
00:28:02.505 --> 00:28:04.325
<00:28:02.505>and <00:28:02.785>cater <00:28:03.065>especially <00:28:03.345>on <00:28:03.625>their <00:28:03.905>needs.

613
00:28:04.735 --> 00:28:07.275
<00:28:04.735>Right? <00:28:06.135>Yeah.

614
00:28:07.615 --> 00:28:11.915
<00:28:07.615>So <00:28:07.742>in, <00:28:07.869>in <00:28:07.996>terms <00:28:08.124>of, <00:28:08.251>uh, <00:28:08.378>uh, <00:28:08.505>smart <00:28:08.633>city, <00:28:08.760>uh, <00:28:08.887>smart <00:28:09.015>mobility,

615
00:28:12.655 --> 00:28:15.475
<00:28:12.655>uh, <00:28:12.855>very <00:28:13.055>clearly <00:28:13.254>as <00:28:13.455>a <00:28:13.655>shared <00:28:13.855>macro <00:28:14.055>operators,

616
00:28:15.475 --> 00:28:16.915
<00:28:15.475>we <00:28:15.690>can <00:28:15.907>play <00:28:16.123>a <00:28:16.339>big <00:28:16.554>role <00:28:16.771>also.

617
00:28:17.575 --> 00:28:20.355
<00:28:17.575>Uh, <00:28:17.750>if <00:28:17.925>you <00:28:18.100>take, <00:28:18.275>uh, <00:28:18.450>our <00:28:18.625>case <00:28:18.800>last <00:28:18.975>year,

618
00:28:20.435 --> 00:28:23.235
<00:28:20.435>I <00:28:20.635>think <00:28:20.835>we <00:28:21.034>generated <00:28:21.235>about <00:28:21.435>125 <00:28:21.635>million <00:28:21.835>trips.

619
00:28:24.325 --> 00:28:26.075
<00:28:24.325>Every <00:28:24.558>trips <00:28:24.791>we <00:28:25.025>have <00:28:25.258>data <00:28:25.491>about <00:28:25.725>them.

620
00:28:26.855 --> 00:28:28.195
<00:28:26.855>And <00:28:27.156>one <00:28:27.458>of <00:28:27.759>the <00:28:28.061>big,

621
00:28:28.435 --> 00:28:30.995
<00:28:28.435>I <00:28:28.590>would <00:28:28.746>say <00:28:28.901>successful <00:28:29.057>collaboration <00:28:29.212>we <00:28:29.368>have <00:28:29.523>with <00:28:29.679>cities <00:28:29.835>is

622
00:28:30.995 --> 00:28:35.795
<00:28:30.995>to <00:28:31.195>share <00:28:31.395>is <00:28:31.594>anonymized <00:28:31.794>data <00:28:31.995>with <00:28:32.195>cities <00:28:32.395>so

623
00:28:35.795 --> 00:28:39.715
<00:28:35.795>that <00:28:35.950>they <00:28:36.106>can <00:28:36.261>see <00:28:36.417>exactly <00:28:36.572>how <00:28:36.728>people <00:28:36.883>are <00:28:37.039>using, <00:28:37.195>uh,

624
00:28:40.665 --> 00:28:42.395
<00:28:40.665>yeah, <00:28:41.014>our, <00:28:41.365>basically <00:28:41.715>our <00:28:42.065>bakers

625
00:28:42.715 --> 00:28:43.715
<00:28:42.715>Business <00:28:42.939>to <00:28:43.165>government <00:28:43.389>sharing <00:28:43.615>Gate.

626
00:28:43.715 --> 00:28:44.585
<00:28:43.715>Exactly. <00:28:44.498>Yeah.

627
00:28:44.585 --> 00:28:47.875
<00:28:44.585>They <00:28:44.760>can <00:28:44.935>see, <00:28:45.110>you <00:28:45.285>know, <00:28:45.460>all <00:28:45.635>the <00:28:45.810>trips, <00:28:45.985>uh,

628
00:28:47.975 --> 00:28:50.675
<00:28:47.975>the, <00:28:48.149>the <00:28:48.324>streets <00:28:48.500>they <00:28:48.675>are <00:28:48.850>using, <00:28:49.024>also <00:28:49.199>the <00:28:49.375>accidents

629
00:28:50.675 --> 00:28:52.675
<00:28:50.675>that <00:28:50.875>they <00:28:51.075>have <00:28:51.274>where <00:28:51.475>they <00:28:51.675>have <00:28:51.875>these <00:28:52.075>accidents

630
00:28:53.285 --> 00:28:56.315
<00:28:53.285>where <00:28:53.440>they're <00:28:53.596>parking <00:28:53.751>and <00:28:53.907>this, <00:28:54.062>in <00:28:54.218>turn <00:28:54.373>help <00:28:54.529>them <00:28:54.685>return

631
00:28:56.315 --> 00:28:58.275
<00:28:56.315>to <00:28:56.548>improve <00:28:56.781>the <00:28:57.015>infrastructures <00:28:57.248>in <00:28:57.481>their <00:28:57.715>cities.

632
00:28:59.045 --> 00:29:01.665
<00:28:59.045>So <00:28:59.278>that's, <00:28:59.511>uh, <00:28:59.745>okay. <00:28:59.978>Smart <00:29:00.211>mobility. <00:29:00.445>Yeah.

633
00:29:02.275 --> 00:29:05.025
<00:29:02.275>There <00:29:02.450>we <00:29:02.625>go. <00:29:02.800>Okay, <00:29:02.975>we've <00:29:03.150>got <00:29:03.325>one <00:29:03.500>minute <00:29:03.675>left.

634
00:29:05.085 --> 00:29:06.505
<00:29:05.085>So <00:29:05.340>maybe <00:29:05.596>a <00:29:05.851>few <00:29:06.107>last <00:29:06.363>words.

635
00:29:06.605 --> 00:29:09.785
<00:29:06.605>If <00:29:06.760>there's <00:29:06.916>just <00:29:07.071>one <00:29:07.227>thing <00:29:07.382>people <00:29:07.538>should <00:29:07.693>remember <00:29:07.849>from <00:29:08.005>this

636
00:29:09.785 --> 00:29:11.065
<00:29:09.785>panel, <00:29:10.073>what <00:29:10.361>would <00:29:10.649>it <00:29:10.937>be?

637
00:29:11.435 --> 00:29:14.025
<00:29:11.435>Maybe <00:29:11.715>Christiana <00:29:11.995>you <00:29:12.274>can <00:29:12.554>start. <00:29:12.835>Yeah.

638
00:29:14.165 --> 00:29:17.065
<00:29:14.165>Um, <00:29:14.320>I <00:29:14.476>mean, <00:29:14.631>I <00:29:14.787>mentioned <00:29:14.942>our <00:29:15.098>philosophy, <00:29:15.253>blue <00:29:15.409>sky, <00:29:15.565>uh,

639
00:29:17.065 --> 00:29:18.065
<00:29:17.065>blue <00:29:17.365>sky <00:29:17.665>coming <00:29:17.965>already.

640
00:29:18.065 --> 00:29:20.945
<00:29:18.065>What <00:29:18.205>it <00:29:18.345>means <00:29:18.485>is <00:29:18.625>that <00:29:18.765>we're <00:29:18.905>striving <00:29:19.045>for <00:29:19.185>a <00:29:19.325>better, <00:29:19.465>positive,

641
00:29:21.215 --> 00:29:22.945
<00:29:21.215>more <00:29:21.564>sustainable <00:29:21.915>and <00:29:22.264>brighter <00:29:22.615>future.

642
00:29:23.445 --> 00:29:24.865
<00:29:23.445>Um, <00:29:23.627>I <00:29:23.810>think <00:29:23.992>it's <00:29:24.175>on <00:29:24.357>all <00:29:24.540>of <00:29:24.723>us,

643
00:29:24.865 --> 00:29:26.745
<00:29:24.865>and <00:29:25.065>that's <00:29:25.265>also <00:29:25.465>our <00:29:25.665>vision <00:29:25.865>and <00:29:26.065>our <00:29:26.265>thinking.

644
00:29:27.045 --> 00:29:28.545
<00:29:27.045>Uh, <00:29:27.270>that's <00:29:27.495>why <00:29:27.720>we're <00:29:27.945>doing <00:29:28.170>the <00:29:28.395>community.

645
00:29:28.545 --> 00:29:29.825
<00:29:28.545>It's <00:29:28.689>on <00:29:28.833>all <00:29:28.977>of <00:29:29.121>us <00:29:29.265>to <00:29:29.409>work <00:29:29.553>on <00:29:29.697>it,

646
00:29:29.825 --> 00:29:32.505
<00:29:29.825>to <00:29:29.965>work <00:29:30.105>on <00:29:30.245>a <00:29:30.385>brighter <00:29:30.525>future, <00:29:30.665>keep <00:29:30.805>the <00:29:30.945>future <00:29:31.085>as <00:29:31.225>bright

647
00:29:32.505 --> 00:29:33.585
<00:29:32.505>as <00:29:32.748>it <00:29:32.991>looks <00:29:33.234>right <00:29:33.477>now.

648
00:29:34.005 --> 00:29:36.865
<00:29:34.005>Um, <00:29:34.145>and <00:29:34.285>I <00:29:34.425>think <00:29:34.565>it's <00:29:34.705>also, <00:29:34.845>it's <00:29:34.985>even <00:29:35.125>more <00:29:35.265>important <00:29:35.405>for,

649
00:29:37.005 --> 00:29:39.145
<00:29:37.005>for <00:29:37.238>smart <00:29:37.471>people <00:29:37.705>like <00:29:37.938>you <00:29:38.171>guys <00:29:38.405>are,

650
00:29:39.145 --> 00:29:41.805
<00:29:39.145>especially <00:29:39.345>the <00:29:39.545>field <00:29:39.745>you're <00:29:39.945>working <00:29:40.145>in, <00:29:40.345>um, <00:29:40.545>to,

651
00:29:41.905 --> 00:29:44.685
<00:29:41.905>to <00:29:42.032>give <00:29:42.159>your <00:29:42.286>best, <00:29:42.414>to <00:29:42.541>use <00:29:42.668>your <00:29:42.795>capabilities <00:29:42.923>to <00:29:43.050>work <00:29:43.177>on <00:29:43.305>it

652
00:29:44.745 --> 00:29:49.285
<00:29:44.745>and, <00:29:44.919>and, <00:29:45.094>um, <00:29:45.270>contribute, <00:29:45.445>uh, <00:29:45.620>to <00:29:45.794>that, <00:29:45.969>to <00:29:46.145>that,

653
00:29:49.625 --> 00:29:51.645
<00:29:49.625>uh, <00:29:49.825>future <00:29:50.025>and <00:29:50.225>let <00:29:50.425>the <00:29:50.625>blue <00:29:50.825>sky <00:29:51.025>come.

654
00:29:52.995 --> 00:29:55.965
<00:29:52.995>Okay. <00:29:53.228>Yeah, <00:29:53.461>that's <00:29:53.695>totally <00:29:53.928>in <00:29:54.161>my <00:29:54.395>line.

655
00:29:56.385 --> 00:29:59.345
<00:29:56.385>Um, <00:29:56.735>as <00:29:57.085>we <00:29:57.435>would've <00:29:57.785>guessed.

656
00:29:59.765 --> 00:30:03.465
<00:29:59.765>Um, <00:29:59.905>so <00:30:00.045>I <00:30:00.185>think <00:30:00.325>a <00:30:00.465>smart <00:30:00.605>city <00:30:00.745>is <00:30:00.885>a <00:30:01.025>great <00:30:01.165>vision,

657
00:30:03.645 --> 00:30:06.985
<00:30:03.645>but <00:30:03.800>it <00:30:03.956>lives <00:30:04.111>on <00:30:04.267>the <00:30:04.422>people, <00:30:04.578>on <00:30:04.733>all <00:30:04.889>of <00:30:05.045>us.

658
00:30:07.525 --> 00:30:12.385
<00:30:07.525>And <00:30:07.641>I <00:30:07.758>say <00:30:07.875>I, <00:30:07.991>I'm <00:30:08.108>to <00:30:08.225>the, <00:30:08.341>to <00:30:08.458>the <00:30:08.575>companies <00:30:08.691>out <00:30:08.808>there, <00:30:08.925>um,

659
00:30:12.575 --> 00:30:16.225
<00:30:12.575>that, <00:30:12.750>that's <00:30:12.925>my <00:30:13.100>cry <00:30:13.275>out, <00:30:13.450>that <00:30:13.625>a <00:30:13.800>good <00:30:13.975>company

660
00:30:16.885 --> 00:30:20.385
<00:30:16.885>should <00:30:17.118>always <00:30:17.351>reconsider <00:30:17.585>all <00:30:17.818>the <00:30:18.051>different <00:30:18.285>participants

661
00:30:20.445 --> 00:30:23.065
<00:30:20.445>and <00:30:20.620>then <00:30:20.794>make <00:30:20.970>it <00:30:21.145>for <00:30:21.320>them <00:30:21.495>easier <00:30:21.669>to <00:30:21.845>do

662
00:30:23.065 --> 00:30:25.905
<00:30:23.065>what <00:30:23.192>they <00:30:23.319>already <00:30:23.446>want <00:30:23.574>to <00:30:23.701>do <00:30:23.828>by <00:30:23.955>making <00:30:24.083>it <00:30:24.210>more <00:30:24.337>barrier <00:30:24.465>free.

663
00:30:27.795 --> 00:30:31.055
<00:30:27.795>Uh, <00:30:27.922>for <00:30:28.049>me, <00:30:28.176>I <00:30:28.304>would <00:30:28.431>say, <00:30:28.558>uh, <00:30:28.685>I <00:30:28.813>think <00:30:28.940>what's <00:30:29.067>important <00:30:29.195>is

664
00:30:31.055 --> 00:30:33.255
<00:30:31.055>that <00:30:31.255>smart <00:30:31.455>cities <00:30:31.655>is <00:30:31.855>not <00:30:32.055>necessary <00:30:32.255>tech <00:30:32.455>city.

665
00:30:34.075 --> 00:30:37.775
<00:30:34.075>Uh, <00:30:34.230>sometimes <00:30:34.386>low <00:30:34.541>tech <00:30:34.697>solutions <00:30:34.852>are <00:30:35.008>also <00:30:35.163>great <00:30:35.319>if <00:30:35.475>you,

666
00:30:37.825 --> 00:30:40.095
<00:30:37.825>especially <00:30:38.058>if <00:30:38.291>you <00:30:38.525>take <00:30:38.758>the <00:30:38.991>human-centric <00:30:39.225>view,

667
00:30:40.775 --> 00:30:43.255
<00:30:40.775>a <00:30:40.950>mechanical <00:30:41.125>bike, <00:30:41.300>it's <00:30:41.475>very <00:30:41.650>old, <00:30:41.825>it's <00:30:42.000>nothing <00:30:42.175>new,

668
00:30:43.275 --> 00:30:45.855
<00:30:43.275>but <00:30:43.475>actually <00:30:43.675>it's <00:30:43.875>a <00:30:44.075>great <00:30:44.275>solution <00:30:44.475>for <00:30:44.675>city

669
00:30:45.875 --> 00:30:46.895
<00:30:45.875>and <00:30:46.058>for <00:30:46.242>me, <00:30:46.425>it's <00:30:46.609>very <00:30:46.793>smart.

670
00:30:46.955 --> 00:30:49.255
<00:30:46.955>So <00:30:47.155>let's <00:30:47.355>not <00:30:47.554>neglect <00:30:47.754>also <00:30:47.955>a <00:30:48.155>low <00:30:48.355>tech,

671
00:30:49.625 --> 00:30:51.535
<00:30:49.625>which <00:30:49.825>is <00:30:50.025>also <00:30:50.225>a <00:30:50.425>great <00:30:50.625>solution. <00:30:50.825>And <00:30:51.025>yeah,

672
00:30:51.985 --> 00:30:52.985
<00:30:51.985>Right. <00:30:52.885>Amazing.

673
00:30:52.985 --> 00:30:55.095
<00:30:52.985>I <00:30:53.159>can't <00:30:53.334>wait <00:30:53.510>to <00:30:53.685>live <00:30:53.860>in <00:30:54.034>the <00:30:54.209>smart <00:30:54.385>city

674
00:30:55.095 --> 00:30:56.615
<00:30:55.095>of <00:30:55.551>the <00:30:56.007>future, <00:30:56.463>sustainable

675
00:30:56.615 --> 00:30:58.255
<00:30:56.615>and <00:30:56.895>user <00:30:57.175>friendly <00:30:57.455>as <00:30:57.735>we've <00:30:58.015>learned.

676
00:30:58.755 --> 00:31:00.455
<00:30:58.755>So <00:30:58.955>thanks <00:30:59.155>a <00:30:59.355>lot <00:30:59.555>for <00:30:59.755>taking <00:30:59.955>the <00:31:00.155>time

677
00:31:00.555 --> 00:31:02.055
<00:31:00.555>and <00:31:00.892>for <00:31:01.230>all <00:31:01.567>the <00:31:01.905>insights.

678
00:31:02.705 --> 00:31:03.695
<00:31:02.705>Thank <00:31:03.002>you. <00:31:03.299>I <00:31:03.596>Do.