World Congress 2025 • Aug 20, 2025 • Session details

Fireside Chat with Werner Vogels, VP & CTO, Amazon.com & Daniel Gebler, CTO at Picnic

Daniel Gebler , Mike Butcher , Werner Vogels

Werner Vogels claims AI won't replace engineers, but shifts their focus entirely to system design. Discover why embracing technical debt and AI-free days builds stronger, adaptable development teams.

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